hn3-discussion

[bronze steppe]

p1 is only for nostalgia ngl

[celest plank]

1. pre-alpha
   2a. prototype 2
   2b. prototype 3
2. prototype 1

i puit p2 and 3 in the same rank cause theyre both rly good almost equally as good

prototype 3 has stuff that prototype 2 doesnt and vice versa

[limpid pewter]

pre alpha just needed more polishing

[bronze steppe]

with the AI

[stone elk]

Alpha 1

[icy canyon]

If we're talking gameplay wise, Prototype 2 and Pre-Alpha are at the top. If we're talking story wise, Prototype 3 is at the top.

[bronze steppe]

true

[limpid pewter]

and if we are talking atmosphere i think it goes to proto 1

[echo fulcrum]

What did prototype 2 have that prototype 3 didn't

[echo fulcrum]

Nah it was just unpolished no atmosphere

[stone elk]

what is the story of p3? pre alpha had more story?

[untold grotto]

p3 had a lot more tbf

[crude ravine]

Pre alpha and p2 is better i think

[bronze steppe]

i mean we had more endings

[icy canyon]

Exactly, you had the multiple endings that all felt like they built on the lore of the world

In pre-alpha you had a core path that led to a single image ending

[bronze steppe]

and also the opening cutscene

[limpid pewter]

idk why we didnt spawn at bus stop tbh

spawning at town square kinda implies we live in raven brooks

[crude ravine]

U dont know? There is so much

[queen sapphire]

Where is this photo from?

[untold grotto]

i think thats because it would be annoying to starting from bus stop instead of main square when you restart the session

[limpid pewter]

spawn at bus stop first session then later sessions spawn at town square

[stone elk]

Yeah but there is more interesting things npcs can do in pre alpha like Janusz death and Jacob crash

they arnt endings but they are "story"

[bronze steppe]

the first time that i entered the game and i saw that the player spawned in the mid of the town i was like

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-confused-speed-confused-huh-gif-288092521530568379

[crude ravine]

Forest dweller kills isaac in p3 for a ritual

[echo fulcrum]

Guys can npcs get killed by the guest?

[crude ravine]

Yep

[limpid pewter]

i really hope they add that one proto 2 ending where you run out of town but storm still catchs you

[near hawk]

Yes, nothing better than sacrificing Jacob to Aaron

[echo fulcrum]

How can I do that??

[limpid pewter]

ik it doesnt fit current story but it was funny

[narrow gust]

What have I missed?

[near hawk]

Just make it so that the forest dweller catches Jacob

[crude ravine]

Nothing, i guess?

[icy canyon]

Discovering how to get that one ending where the Guest gets you anyway even with the bus going out of town in prototype 2 was fun

[limpid pewter]

anyways how many hours yall have in hn3 so far

[echo fulcrum]

What does it do to him?

[near hawk]

Throw stuff at him, lead Guest to him, whatever you can

[narrow gust]

Did it not release then?

[limpid pewter]

it did

[narrow gust]

Really?

[near hawk]

Jacob isn't gonna bother anymore

[limpid pewter]

yes

[stone elk]

Yeah I would much rather have this then invisible walls

[crude ravine]

U didnt see pre alpha?

[echo fulcrum]

Does he drag him off and then kill him?

[limpid pewter]

proto 2 was just different man

[echo fulcrum]

Does he have a killing animation?

[narrow gust]

No downloading it now

[high brook]

the pre alpha guest kill is just like the p2 and p1 ones but with a second to get free

[crude ravine]

Its not great version but better than p3

[icy canyon]

I sacrificed Jacob to the guest when he made me angry on my first Pre-alpha run, there's no killing animation he just goes into his stun/ragdoll state with no stars. Still blinking and making noise.

[crude ravine]

7 secs

[limpid pewter]

do yall prefer proto 3 guest or pa guest

[high brook]

pre alpha

[echo fulcrum]

Ok I'll do it

[crude ravine]

Pa guest ofc. U can be friends with guest in pa

[untold grotto]

the neighbor does not kill the npcs btw, he is just making stun

[open plaza]

is vertical & horizontal sens different in every version of hn3 or is it just me

[echo fulcrum]

Huh?

[limpid pewter]

i am talking about mechanic

[untold grotto]

for sure you cant

[limpid pewter]

replaying proto 1 rn

[stone elk]

pre alpha cus I dont wanna have to save the silly npcs from that impossible segment in p3

[icy canyon]

You can make friends in low places with the guest

[crude ravine]

Give a food. He wont attack u anymore

[near hawk]

Pre Alpha.
Feels more like a threat plus less annoying

[open plaza]

?

[limpid pewter]

yay we can be friends with aaron now

[untold grotto]

pretty sure it was not something intended or something

[crystal hare]

Hello Neighbor Ru Wiki

[icy canyon]

Yeah, I hope they nerf/remove that cause it just makes The Guest not a issue for the rest of the run

[stone elk]

but every choice is the right one, no matter what game design says

absolute freedom

[echo fulcrum]

The guest has a vertical beak like the murales here

[untold grotto]

i think thats because they didnt disable the friendship value for monster relationship

[near hawk]

I believe Nikita said in general that he only looks up lorely

[untold grotto]

and giving it something like +0,5 value makes him his friend

[icy canyon]

The choice to give The Guest a single steak dinner shouldn't result in him just be like 'Oh okay, you're chill '

[open plaza]

but what if the guest is chill like that

[echo fulcrum]

I feel like he'd be more the human sacrifice type than the steak dinner type

[stone elk]

Honestly if I was an evil bird creature I would honestly take the steak over murder because murder is bad and steak is good

[low gate]

I think it works more for this version of the game

[raven hull]

Where are HN3 bugs posted?

[near hawk]

Yeah Aaron should only be chill once we sacrifice Jacob to him

[raven hull]

🤔

[low gate]

being right in the middle really expands your path

[icy canyon]

#1494695990832267396 You could put it there

[crude ravine]

Human steak

[near hawk]

And/or Dorothea

[echo fulcrum]

Jacob is kinda badahh in this version

[near hawk]

But If You're evil?

Wouldn't you prefer murder?

[icy canyon]

I think it shouldn't take just one food, it needs to be something you work towards whether through temporary appeasement like the fireworks or maybe a bit of food. Or permanently through a action with consequences (like sacrifice)

[hollow ice]

Guset

[limpid pewter]

hopefully mayak becomes bigger

as its kinda underwhelming at the moment

[near hawk]

It is just a rough version so it quite might.

[limpid pewter]

and make it have more weather station elements

[crude ravine]

He kills who know hes not the real guest,
He dont kills who think hes real guest

[floral kettle]

What does that mean?

Nvm

I am the most dumb being alive

[green storm]

I actually find interesting to try to win affinity with the Fores Dweller

giving him food or keep him distract it from the town

[floral kettle]

Anyways, can you guys describe season 3 with one word?

[near hawk]

Nikita or any Eerie guest studios cant

They don't work on it

[floral kettle]

Who is working on it then?

[near hawk]

tinyBuild

[floral kettle]

Alex?

[near hawk]

You know, Alex

Yeah

Also it's not really a HN3 matter so

[floral kettle]

I know

I am gonna be copping to see entity guest again till my grave

[raven hull]

imbir

Why can't I post my Hello Neighbor 3 bug?

on the channel you told me about recently

[icy canyon]

What do you mean?

[ionic bay]

So, will its location remain the same?

[raven hull]

It says I need a tag to post.

[icy canyon]

Select Feedback

the tag I mean

[raven hull]

"You need a tag to create a post in this channel".

[icy canyon]

I know what you mean. Click the feedback tag.

[crude ravine]

Every1 knows it

[raven hull]

oh

thanks

[raven hull]

sorry for bothering you

[crude ravine]

And prolly it will be deleted in next versions

[crude ravine]

guest

[floral kettle]

You didn’t watched it

[near hawk]

Guset

Better description i think.

[mellow garden]

@icy canyon can u turn off my no embeds role pls

[floral kettle]

Do the AS get trailers before release or nah?

[limpid pewter]

i feel like this shouldnt be in hn3 discussion

[near hawk]

They do.

[near hawk]

Yeah true

[icy canyon]

Dm tinyJacky about requesting embeds back

[ionic bay]

Nikita answered this question like this, I think there's a chance of switching places.

[narrow gust]

oh the mayak is in this build

and so is the neighbor

[crude ravine]

The neighbor is in the mayak

[celest plank]

man put on spoilers

[crude ravine]

(Also did u know? I said "the neighbor will be in mayak" in 4 months ago and keeped say this till pre alpha)

[icy canyon]

it wasn't really a surprise that he was in the pre alpha in my eyes as it was foreshadowed in the festival ending on Prototype 3. What did surprise me was visiting the mayak

[rigid jasper]

i feel like if they are to keep that in alpha 1 it would involve knocking out and giving all civilians to guest

[narrow gust]

I beat it accidentally

[errant scroll]

Humble Hello Neighbor Devs letting people play all the alphas and betas

[high brook]

for some reason i still like the escape the town ending better

[ember verge]

tbf it was an actual ending

[near hawk]

Better than pre Alpha you mean?

[high brook]

yea kinda

[near hawk]

Because if that's the case then it's easy to see why.

[high brook]

it was more straightforward

[near hawk]

Pre alpha ending is just a picture

[civic totem]

The Pre-Alpha ending is underwhelming ngl

[near hawk]

Escape the town is significantly cooler

[near hawk]

Truth.

[high brook]

first part of pre alpha is litearlly just "find my pages"

[untold grotto]

i personally dont like the escape town thing

[civic totem]

https://tenor.com/view/slenderman-slender-man-run-running-annoying-orange-gif-6295155108296519159

Find my pages, Alma

[near hawk]

I like prototype 3 endings a lot

[untold grotto]

festival was surely a better objective

[near hawk]

Teddy ending most prolly.

[brazen sable]

hello i am new here where can i ask for help with technical problems

[high brook]

it was like 10x harder though

[gentle carbon]

I feel like this version is really just to test the objective mechanic, so they just have grabbing the paper telling you where to go next as a really simple thing

[near hawk]

Dweller ending was also very cool.
Newspaper not that much but it was ok. Main problem is it made storm feel like a game over.

[untold grotto]

i think the festival would better working with objectives system

[near hawk]

I liked festival goal tbh.
It was a challange but promoted exploring.

With changes they made like the objectives and time loop changes it would have been even better.

[jolly mirage]

Hn3 true villain: Slenderman

[civic totem]

<@&1162799252192379000>

[jolly mirage]

Honestly it would fit in this game perfectly as a easter egg

[limpid pewter]

what was it

[near hawk]

Scam prolly

[limpid pewter]

ah okay

[near hawk]

Since there was also just one on #hello-neighbor so i assume the same was here.

[echo fulcrum]

Guys

How many in game days before the storms annihilates me?

[limpid pewter]

1 i am pretty sure

[echo fulcrum]

What only 1 day?

So one day and night cycle?

[limpid pewter]

pretty sure

been like that for all builds so far

but not 100 percent sure if thats the case with pre alpha

[narrow gust]

Just watched guest despawn right in front of me 😞

[agile kelp]

Storm comes at 12:00 on March 1

[narrow gust]

I would love if one of the side quests in the full game had you searching Quentin's workplace to find photos and notes to find out what happened to him just as a sort of closure to hn2 since we never got patch 10 and never will

[deft summit]

there never was a patch 10 planned

there was an Act 2 but it was a scrapped Patch 9 addition

also I don't think Nikita is gonna reference HN2 very much

[untold grotto]

the guy does not even know what happened to quentin

[deft summit]

exactly

he didn't write for the finalized story of HN2

[random shell]

Any tips on how to get to the ice cream stand at the amusement park that part is confusing

[near hawk]

"Freedom can be dangerous" 🔥

[deft summit]

Hello Neighbor 3 so far seems to be what Hello Neighbor 2 was meant to do

the map feels alot more open, almost open world

||Peterson seems to be the climax of the game||

and the Guest being this threat that you always have to worry for

there's even dragging when getting caught

||oh also I think the neighbor was gonna be hiding out in the Mayak in an early HN2 storyline||

[bronze steppe]

i mean it is open world

[deft summit]

not sure about the alpha storyline

[bronze steppe]

yea but they need to polish some stuff around the neighbor in general

[deft summit]

they do

I'm just pointing out how some of HN3 seems to be redoing some of the scrapped HN2 ideas

not all just some, but I do think that's cool

[restive oxide]

does anything happen if you give a vandal the camera

[untold grotto]

no

[restive oxide]

what about a picture of the guest

[untold grotto]

neither the image of the forest dweller

[pulsar cradle]

WAIT WAS ALPHA 1 ALREADY IN BUILT?

[restive oxide]

damn
well
maybe in the future

[untold grotto]

no its in early development

[pulsar cradle]

OH NIKITA DONT HURRY WITH UR GAME PLEASE

[untold grotto]

he definitely does not

because techinally hn3 is like 2 years old in development

[narrow gust]

Do you have caps lock on?

[untold grotto]

i know the half of it was the game being something else entirely

[restive oxide]

purposefully i assume

[narrow gust]

ok

[pulsar cradle]

Yea what happened

[rigid jasper]

mya is dead bro 😭

[tall lintel]

im lwk so glad the characters that didn't make it into this version did in fact not make it, they were definitely the ugliest and most off looking in contrast with the rest of the game

[echo fulcrum]

guys how do I save Jacob

[echo fulcrum]

they are coming back dude

[rigid jasper]

in cinema boiler room there is episode tape, give it to him

[tall lintel]

say on god

[echo fulcrum]

ok thx

wallahi bro

[tall lintel]

damn it

[echo fulcrum]

caught the reference?

[tawny yoke]

wasn't that a maybe

[rigid jasper]

if this is just the pre-alpha i cannot imagine what alpha 1 is looking like

[tawny yoke]

like if they were to return, they would be redesigned first or somethign

[echo fulcrum]

There's a picture of them in pre alpha I'm pretty sure

[tawny yoke]

yeah but I suppose they just left that in not sure tho

[echo fulcrum]

I hope they make it

[tawny yoke]

I hope iris will get a redesign cause she really didn't fit in the setting

[echo fulcrum]

where is the historian home?

found it nevermind

[sage forge]

xd that was fast

[high brook]

for some reason pre alpha keeps crashing and its saying "Crash in runnable thread Background Worker"

[sage forge]

ok, i just finished the game. gameplay is SO FUN. I absolutely love it. The hints were clear and easy to understand and follow. The Guest is genuinely threating.

[lavish ravine]

idk if nikita say it but : why the characters its called : alma hoffman when in hes card of golden apple say : almira hoffman ?

[icy canyon]

Almira is her work name, Alma is her actual name.

[nocturne jacinth]

Guest felt obnoxious to me

Like the idea of having to flash him in the forest is good but most of the time he doesnt react to it and will end up grabbing you anyways

It felt nice in hello guest cause he actually got scared and ran away

[echo fulcrum]

You should do bursts of light

You shouldn't Keep it always on

[nocturne jacinth]

Does he react to it turning on?

The camera is really good though

How it knocks him over for a few seconds

[quartz anchor]

Is it true you can befriend the guest?

And how do you befriend Jacob?

[green storm]

I remember this map at HN2, I think the final version of the game could represent a closest layout of Raven Brooks

[green storm]

It's could be a cool mechanic and a condition to defeat Mr. Peterson with its help

telling us that the real monster are not what we thought

[trim trout]

bro Jacob has serious anger issues lol

[quartz anchor]

Yeah

I just shoot him with Item thrower

I'm done with this guy lol

[blissful river]

Did you Google search how to fix it?

[rigid jasper]

are you using turbo mode?

[green storm]

Personally I don't like this Jacob's personality, more agressive than prototype 2

that should fix better with Mr. Peterson

[nocturne jacinth]

Yes

[ocean marsh]

My only complaint with the game is how you lose your items upon each death, I think more important items should stay while saw, crowbar, and wrenches shouldn't.

[green storm]

I assume that we are trap in a time loop

where someone die in Raven Brooks, the day start over from the beginning

but only us (the player or in this case Alma) can notice that, maybe because we are outsiders, not residents

[quartz anchor]

You can befriend a guest

Lollll

And you can fight Jacob (and others) with Item thrower

This game is funny

[nocturne jacinth]

does it give you a new note?

[ocean marsh]

yea we are

[polar linden]

Give him Quantum Knight Episode 8

From cinema boiler room

[finite carbon]

Hello Neighbor

[nocturne jacinth]

Anyone wanna hop in a vc and talk HN3?

[last lotus]

I befriended Jacob and the baker

Also I found the cone head man

[nocturne jacinth]

yeah hes like, broken

[last lotus]

Can you befriend the Neighbor or guest?

[river gyro]

no

Mya is dead, Aaron is implied to be the forest dweller

[sullen condor]

I dead serious forgot Mya died

[river gyro]

watch your language

[sullen condor]

better?

[river gyro]

This is against the rules.

[restive oxide]

the guest yes
the neighbor has not been successful friended by anyone yet

[river gyro]

No

[restive oxide]

what is

i missed it

[near hawk]

You can pretend to befriend neighbor though

[last lotus]

Bummer, how do you befriend the guest

[river gyro]

Swearing and bypassing👀

[near hawk]

Because he keeps getting stuck, just throw a banana or smth at him and hope he gets stuck in a wall

[restive oxide]

food

[restive oxide]

ok

[river gyro]

food

[river gyro]

feed us, please

[near hawk]

Huh

[river gyro]

muh?

meow

[restive oxide]

no

[river gyro]

"or else you will be facing your violent death, oh is it so strange how you're so persistent to make a change but fade led to this"

shucks with lyrics reference btw👀

alright hello neighbor

I can't believe Neighbor is the does bad thing guy

I cant believe the HN3 neighbor is the bay gloveless older seperton

[river gyro]

Nikita is messaging!! run!

[severe merlin]

How many of you speedrun here? I thought it might be fun to hold some sort of discord speedrun contest (I’m going to participate as well). But not any%, but something more challenging. Like, beat pre-alpha while giving photo, cassette and the book to the respective characters. What do you think?

[jade night]

That sounds fun!

[river gyro]

ehhh, I would try to speedrun the game. (probably a bad idea)

[severe merlin]

Other option also is a photo contest (photos done with an in game camera). We’ll collect a gallery of your photos and will vote for the best one. Not sure what the prize would be though 🤔

[oblique parcel]

That sounds super fun!

[jade night]

That also sounds really nice and I'd love to do that. Also I have a question if you don't mind, but I'm sure other people have asked it in similar forms so it might seem more like nagging?

[restive oxide]

80% speedrun?

[lunar trail]

a contest of any kind would be fun, it's been a long time since we had anything like that here

[oblique parcel]

Yes i’ve missed These community Things

[oblique parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[severe merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-leslie-david-baker-nod-smile-gif-10833821744922200936

[jade night]

Actually what would the prize be?

[narrow gust]

bragging rights

[restive oxide]

HN3 photo contest champion 2026 role

or maybe a complement from Nikita

[jade night]

Nikita draws a HN3 character with your input on their design

Trust

[narrow gust]

You get the cake from devlog 3

[woven lodge]

Plz Nikita can we have more tree types in HN3? Birch trees are so pretty.

[oblique parcel]

I absolutely love the photo camera tbh you can take so Many funny pictures with it

Some i’ve seen is hillarious

More tree variants would be nice in the future yeah

But i Think their mostly focused on the gameplay rn

[woven lodge]

I feel like there is too much of a mess of similar colored branches constantly above your screen.

[oblique parcel]

Im very excited to how the games visuals are gonna improve overtime

Ofc the core direction for the artstyle is finalized but stuff like assets etc

[woven lodge]

I can't really agree with this sort of take, if we constantly withhold criticism with the idea they are focused on bigger things then it may be too late for the stuff we want changed or added to happen.

[oblique parcel]

I mean assets usually starts being finalized around late alpha-beta stage ish

[jade night]

Assets are being finalized now

Lol

[woven lodge]

Which is all the reason why we should ask for this sort of stuff before that stage?

[jade night]

Characters and key items have final models and textures

[oblique parcel]

Yeah fair i mean’t more like its not a priority

Atm

The Gameplay is

[woven lodge]

To be fair in HN1 and HN2 the full models for characters existed almost immediately.

Has Nikita said anything about the other assets yet?

[oblique parcel]

He Said stuff like Foliage Will be replaced iirc

With newer models

[restive oxide]

personally i think a sandbox mode would be great

[jade night]

I actually do hope foliage in general gets a huge rework to looking how it did in RBO, and have the foliage way less dense, only being dense in the actual forest areas

[restive oxide]

unlocks after getting the main ending

[oblique parcel]

Yeah the Foliage is a bit slightly too dense imo

I love the overgrown look but yk

I would prefer a bit more of a balance

[woven lodge]

The trees are just too much.

[oblique parcel]

Best way to describe it is

I want it to feel more like an overgrown town less like a forest with town stuff

does that make sense?

[jade night]

Yeah exactly

[oblique parcel]

I Think the map is cool but it defenitly needs work for future versions

[jade night]

It feels like a showcase concept map with gameplay

Especially the park

[copper pewter]

I live in Raven Brooks:]

[dense fractal]

is that the sky?!?!

[low gate]

Yes that would be why what else would it be

[dense fractal]

why is it green

[low gate]

its white

have you got a secret neighbor filter on or something

[icy canyon]

Speedrunning isn't my strong suit but I'd definitely participate in this

[gentle carbon]

I think it could result in a lot of funny pictures

[loud canyon]

that would be mega cool!

[frosty gyro]

since like 2024 right?

[dense fractal]

are you colourblind

thats obviously a green sphere bro

i promise no secret neighbor filter

[low gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759129678060847105/1495792078255296623/IMG_0744.gif

[dense fractal]

he looks like hes going to stab me

[livid crystal]

White

[severe merlin]

But the game … is a sandbox …

[quartz canopy]

nooo nikita dont cry its gonna be ok

[loud canyon]

so you admit the game DOES have a sandbox mode, it just, uh is the, entire game!

[icy canyon]

I think they mean a mode where you can spawn stuff in and pause time, that kind of sandbox. A Sandbox within a sandbox.

[lunar trail]

Wouldnt that be an editor mode

[severe merlin]

Ooooh, this! Yes that sounds like fun

[icy canyon]

I'm all for it myself, it'd be like the HN1 mod kit

[icy canyon]

I'm just saying how it was suggested here https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1496040542688120933

[lunar trail]

Yea that sounds like an editor mode, still would be very cool though

[icy canyon]

Would be a great unlock if you get all major/important endings and/or the 'final ending' if that's ever a thing.

[low gate]

Yeah i was just thinking that as i was trying to take photos with the camera, would be nice to be able to just run around taking pictures without worrying about resetting and camera breaking

[robust crescent]

Just finished the game, I really like it! Had a lot of issues with Jacob but other than that it was a lot of fun

also The Guest is scary

[stone elk]

Thats basically the UET maybe partner up with kokosko to bring it officially to the full game in a more user friendly way

[wicked moth]

Nikita, I have a question: Why was Iris less relevant to the core story than, say, Jacob?

[stone elk]

Cus Jacob is such a bad driver and ravenbrooks needs a horrible driver

[polar linden]

Nikita i had a question, why Jacob can walk through entire town by legs but when he want to get to cinema and 8th episode which is so close to his house, why is he taking car? i know it's for his crash, but walking there would be easier

[gentle pebble]

If you destroy the car and remove the tape and screwdriver he doesn’t fix it

[polar linden]

i know, just interested why when he can walk there he uses car

[severe merlin]

Can’t explain without revealing his story

[cursive vortex]

I saved them from death

[severe merlin]

We built story around certain elements. Each character “plays the role” even though the role might not be obvious. So we couldn’t fin the role for Iris in this set up.

[polar linden]

so it's not just game convention?

[stoic monolith]

I hope they make the houses bigger in the final build. Rn the ai characters just don't feel right in the environment i think cuz the buildings feel cramped and small

[polar linden]

But whatever happens, will she return in at least easter egg form? if she wouldnt be able to find place in story

[stoic monolith]

Oh ye i never seen iris in the pre alpha

[oblique parcel]

She wasn’t in it

[stoic monolith]

Oof

[wicked moth]

Oh cool, also, is the plan still to bring back Isaac, RC car, and maybe Iris in the next build?

[brave thunder]

rc car is already in game file, but they haven't placed one in level yet
the rc is working fine if you spawn it

[stoic monolith]

I miss the neighbor

I wonder if we will get some build like the hn2 demo where it will focus on him

[oblique parcel]

I still hope you can manage to find a way to work Iris back in

But i Do hope she would get a redesign in that case

Nothing wrong with her current concept design but i Think it could be improved personally

[severe merlin]

Can’t say if it’s the next build or not. Issac is definitely returning. RC car, eventually returning. As for Iris, it requires some figuring out. Can’t give any promises.

[wicked moth]

Also, is the festival going to return in later builds?

[oblique parcel]

Btw is more character’s still something you wanna do? Like more than what we currently have in pre alpha(and isaac)

[wicked moth]

Also, did you like how HN2 turned out in the end? (I didn't think it was that bad)

[river gyro]

ahhh why are they handsome-

[river gyro]

Definitely

[oblique parcel]

I Think he Said something like

His relationship with hn2 is more complicated than simply liking it or disliking it iirc

Could be misremebering though

[river gyro]

ehhh, what does that mean-

[gentle pebble]

Would we ever see the video of prototype 0.5

[river gyro]

likely not

Roger, You're an horrible father

[hallow vale]

the new changes are so amazing

i can actually stream the game now

having to delete the appdata to restart is a bit annoying tho

[vocal arrow]

We know that there's an urban legend in Raven Brooks, and it serves (I think?) as a way to add more tension, horror, and lore to the game. But could be any possibility of there being...more urban legends? What do you all think?

[hallow vale]

the thunder is scary :( but game so fun :)

[vocal arrow]

I actually jumped from my seat first time I heard it 🤣

[river gyro]

The urban legend is the guest

[vocal arrow]

I know, I know 😄

[hallow vale]

bro i think i might genuinely be a dog cause it was so scary

[vocal arrow]

But could there be...more urban legends? 👀

[river gyro]

The Forest protector

[vocal arrow]

I can relate

[river gyro]

from the AS/HN2/books

[hallow vale]

bear trap lawmowers

[vocal arrow]

You mean the cultist people?

[river gyro]

[river gyro]

Yes

[hallow vale]

are the the people who drag you into the abyss past midnight

[vocal arrow]

The big shadow from Hello Neighbor 1?

[hallow vale]

nah i was chilling outside hotel caring for bakerman after he half died an then i got kidnapped

[vocal arrow]

Who kidnapped you? 🥹

OH

Btw

[hallow vale]

the beak things

[vocal arrow]

I tried to help Janusz (the baker man) but...i couldn't interact with him. Is it just me? Or a general thing

[hallow vale]

have to go to post office

get book

right click on him crying

[vocal arrow]

Imma try that later 😛

Thanks!!

[hallow vale]

np mr

[near hawk]

Now that i read this, i believe he said in general that he doesn't "like" or "dislike" stuff but more that he views it as part of his life or something along those lines.

[stoic monolith]

So does he actually die or knocked out? I noticed the bakery gets destroyed by the storm

[hallow vale]

nah he blows up himself

uses saw on furnace

big boom

hes just ragdolled he still blinks

player dies he doesnt, proof hes invincible

[stoic monolith]

Oh lmao

I need to spy on him

Is he acc the baker cuz before he used to be in the super market

I thought hes a super market employee

[trim trout]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-title-card-gif-15425421800026817637

[trim trout]

I think bro forgot to turn of the oven when he was sleeping for once then Lerbron wore a Januz suit and the real Januz ran away. Lerbron is built different besides when he gets trucked and starts to cry. But Lerbron died not Januz

[low gate]

As a language setting itd be funny if you could add a secret wayron croobian option maybe as an unlock after beating game, just think thatd be funny to mess with.

[rigid jasper]

wait this idea is peak

[rigid jasper]

i mean peterson is in the game

[river gyro]

he's [title card]

[civic totem]

He doesn't have his car though

[lunar trail]

Maybe he will in the final release, we dont know

[river gyro]

Im bored

[crude ravine]

texts are in 3d models' textures so an language setting is kinda impossible

[unkempt quarry]

Would be cool, though

[near meadow]

But are we getting more npcs in next alpha to make the environment more lively? I rarely see anyone walking😭

[stone elk]

I would love to just see how it would look un hn3 style and I bet it will be there in some form

[near hawk]

Or the npcs we have could just be made more lively.

[celest plank]

true

even if everyone was walking its still like

not a lot

[near meadow]

I just hope these things are addressed because it is a pretty big problem at the moment

[river gyro]

half died? Guess you can say Half life, mate

anyway, hello neighbor

[gusty elbow]

Just wondering, has anyone else just had the guy in the gas station just kinda walk past you if you don’t move

[ionic bay]

Then Isaac will be alone, or not👀

[gusty elbow]

Like he couldn’t see me somehow idk

[low gate]

the whole point of not having voices in the game was that it could be played by everyone so they wouldve already had the intention of translated text on everything

[nocturne jacinth]

i was just thinking that

[quartz canopy]

at what time does the lighting strike

[slim dew]

?

[floral kettle]

Gueset is The Guest "Evil" (which means good for the context) cousin

[nocturne jacinth]

How do I help the Historian?

[tall sorrel]

photo in her basement (not museum)

place with bridge lever

[nocturne jacinth]

ok

thank you

[tall sorrel]

sry man don't accept friend requests from strangers
too risky

[nocturne jacinth]

i get it

is there any use for the lightning bolt rn?

other than starting the ferris wheel?

[narrow gust]

Nikita could beat the guest in a fight

[near hawk]

This is true

After the end of devlog 4 i guarantee you the guest was crying

[narrow gust]

If you give a knocked out character another knocked out character and repeat this process you can technically hold every character

[crystal hare]

btw, Nikita, will there be the Guest introduction for the player? like a cutscene of his first appearance

goofy question ik

[tawny yoke]

I'm wondering if it's worth it to become friends with residents when the session restarts

unless the relationships will remain after session restart

[near hawk]

They don't remain.

[green storm]

Its would be nice if we have a ending which we can stay in Raven Brooks after help the residents and contribute to improve the town, but involve that we got fired from Golden Apple for doesn't do our work.

[peak solar]

It's nice seeing the devs be more open about HN3 being a sandbox

similar to how HN1 was

except on a much larger scale

I wonder how they felt after being able to outdo the amount of creative freedom HN1 offers?

since I think their design philosophy back then was escape-room-esque interaction?

(not fully sure though)

[echo fulcrum]

"creative Freedom"?

Like stacking boxes?

[peak solar]

no like

being able to pick up most things

or destroy windows

in HN3, you can just... destroy everything if you want

there's more interactive objects

[echo fulcrum]

Well that's not really creative

But it does feel nice

[peak solar]

you have multiple solutions to puzzles thanks to the way the game works

and since the systems are modular

a theoretical modkit would probably be even more insane than HN1's

[echo fulcrum]

True

[dense dove]

How are Youtubers able to use debug mode in the playtest? Unreal Engine Unlocker doesn't seem to have a way to run in the game. There's no DLL to inject.

[meager walrus]

i dont think they are using uuu

[dense dove]

Then what do they use?

[celest plank]

so when i was getting to the amusement park

the game was sorta starting to feel like linear gameplay

that prolly means nothing cause after all you still can do whatever you want

oh yeah also frkm what i played so far there are too many dark spots in the amusement park

like where the guest gets you

[last lotus]

I hope the foliage less realistic looking in the final game, I really liked how it looked in HN2 especially

[sage forge]

i didn't realy play HN2 because since HGP got canceled i kinda lost interest, but i agree

[last lotus]

I mainly stick to HG and HN2 alpha 1.5

[sage forge]

trees every 5 cm are really annoying to navigate through and dont look good

[sage forge]

ye, i mean HG pre-alpha was also nice

such a shame it got discontinued

that game realy got A LOT of potential and was actualy scary and interesting

[icy canyon]

The reveal of HG through the SN mayak arg was also so shocking to me

[sage forge]

YESSS

[last lotus]

For some reason on certain graphics settings the trees kinda blend together

[sage forge]

literally the greatest reveal in all of gaming

[last lotus]

Loved that sm

I remember videos dropping just one morning back during lockdown and i was so excited lol

[sage forge]

fr

[icy canyon]

It was difficult to put the code together but it was so awesome to do, miss that so much especially since we had our first peek inside of the Mayak that way

[sage forge]

fr

i really liked the HG Mayak 🥲

the new one is.... meh

[last lotus]

I remember seeing all the cool stuff in the files like the Mayak interior and teasers for HG alpha 2, I know TB says it's the "pre alpha for HN2" but they're just so fundamentally different that it's hard to believe lol

Not to mention HG itself almost went to alpha 2 with the windmill and stuff

[sage forge]

yyes

i also remember that one render by tinyBuild where the showed that the Guest was originally meant to be The Neighbor

[last lotus]

I kinda like that they didn't go that route lol

Also I'm wondering how HN2 alpha 1/1.5 would have looked in the final game

[floral kettle]

Which version of the guest is the best so far?
Neighbor guest
Hnvr/books guest
Hn2 guest
Hn3 guest

[meager walrus]

sadly that was the only release like that

which i am dissapointed tbh

[near hawk]

HNVR and Books aren't the same...

[last lotus]

I'm cross between the goofy HN2 alpha 1 guest and HN3 guest

[icy canyon]

It felt like a reward having the community work together to get a peek of what was next.
SN event where you unlock Prototype 4 when 😔 /joking

[near hawk]

But i personally Like both of the HN3 Guests most.

(Mural and Forest dweller)

[meager walrus]

im gonna be honest the 2017 -2020 was the best era for hello neighbor

i mean we got

alot of alphas and betas

secret neighbor

hide and seek

blah blah blah

[last lotus]

Watching him trip over stuff and flying around with the fire extinguisher and stalking you through the town was hilarious and creepy

[last lotus]

Add 2021

[meager walrus]

no

[last lotus]

The hype for HN2 alpha 2 was crazy

[meager walrus]

i like hello guest more

[floral kettle]

I feel like hnvr and books guest might be the best one for me because he was actually a powerful threat in that time

[sage forge]

this guy knows what he'S talking about 😎

[sage forge]

ye

but i really like the HGP one because it's the classic and original one, you know

[floral kettle]

Isn’t the first guest just the neighbor?

[meager walrus]

yeah

[sage forge]

well in a way, yes

but i mean back when we didn't know even that. at the time when he appeared in SN and in the HGP

[meager walrus]

we kinda did tho?

people used to compare the guest and the neighbor and say that the guest is the neighbro

[floral kettle]

Please don’t fall for nostalgia bait guys

[sage forge]

well, i mean the cloths were similar

but i meant before tinyBuild revealed it in Twitter

oh god that was back when Twitter existed xd

[crude ravine]

Hi chat

[sage forge]

but yes, i mean that exact time

[sage forge]

sup

[near hawk]

[sage forge]

no

[peak solar]

well technically

he was literally that at one point

then he ended up being Guest kid

[floral kettle]

Kid guest is dead now and never existed

Unless he comes back in the AS somehow

[loud karma]

i love how people are photographing the guest like a trevor henderson artwork

[sage forge]

i mean... 😏 🤣

why wouldn't they?

[sharp bloom]

i get that its the pre-alpha, but my god the amount of bugs in it is insane

[sage forge]

do you remember HN1 pre-alpha? xd

[sharp bloom]

i really dont remember it being as clunky as hn3 prealpha

[sage forge]

it's the same, but now there are more NPCs xd

[sharp bloom]

to be fair tho, there are more mechanics in hn3 so ig

[sage forge]

yep

well, i think the main problem is the amount of broken NPCs

the rest of the game functions perfectly

[sharp bloom]

i wouldnt say perfectly but yeah main issue is the NPCS

[sage forge]

hm... for me, everything worked

even the parkour and physics (unlike in the HN1 and HN2 xd)

[near hawk]

Would torches be raised If i said i would prefer the statue goal for pre alpha

[sage forge]

already rising

[blissful zinc]

we did

[grim lark]

Indifferent

[blissful zinc]

it was like

outright shown lol

the children are forgetting NLV

[sage forge]

well... i mean, if the goal was hinted like in the pre-alpha i don't think it would be much of a problem, but in the prototype 3, i had problem finding some of the items for it, and it was quite anoying that the Vandals always stole it anyway

[grim lark]

Yes omg this was annoying

And sometimes, you’d end up finding the pieces in weird places

[near hawk]

It was difficult but with the objective system and modified time loops i would like it.
Nikita was talking about prototype 3 when he said the modified time loop would improve the experience but idk with the current goal it seems pretty easy even without those changes.

[sage forge]

well, the main goal is for you to learn from your mistakes and to improve yourself with every run. prototype 3 didn't have that. it was just annoyingly repetitive. alway the same just for vandals to ruin it all when you turn around

i must also admit i never did the "proper" ending with the neighbor. because there was no sign i need to find a child on the other side of the map and bring him back

[near hawk]

Yeah but again with the objectives thing and notes it would be much easier to figure

[sage forge]

i always finished the stature and wasited... nad tehn BOOM! tiem is out

[sage forge]

well... mayebe

but i think solving puzzles is much better than just trying to find junk.

it brings back the old days of HN1 alphas

especially alpha 1 (the best version right after HGP in my oppinion)

[nocturne jacinth]

Yeah weird enough, the beginning of every HN was better than the end

[sage forge]

yep

i really hope this one will be different T-T

it would be great if at least one game didn't end up a disaster for once

[celest plank]

guys dont you think it’d be better for the objective system to basically be a tree that branches out from our first objective in the game
that way you can take multiple directions and complete any objective you want

something like that

(that assumes the final game will have 1 direction in the objective system which i heavily doubt)

[mighty flax]

idk the pre alpha is laggy

[random shell]

I finally beat it. I enjoyed it personally.

[grim lark]

Did you save Januzs?

[random shell]

No he blew up

[grim lark]

You should try stopping him from going kaboom

It’s one of the most interesting parts of this alpha

[cunning brook]

playing the alpha and oh my god the hiking trail part is painful

[random shell]

How you do that?

[olive isle]

Xbox

[near meadow]

Can someone search trhough the files and show the full guest running animation?

The pre alpha one looks really different

[blissful river]

I think it’s just slowed down no?

Maybe I’m wrong

[last lotus]

For some reason the neighbor was able to stand on my flashlight lol

Also I explored the amusement park more and found a bunch of tools like crowbars and flashlights

[ocean marsh]

raven bones

I have a question

[last lotus]

Yuh

[ocean marsh]

is there any way I can die and not lose like 10min to get back

I keep dying on my way to amusement park

[last lotus]

You have to get the switch for the tram which will directly take you to the amusement park

[ocean marsh]

yeah

Ive done that

but then was attacked by the cone monster thing

[twin knoll]

I think it’s the guest

[ocean marsh]

okay

[last lotus]

Use the turbo mode on the flashlight to ward him off

[ocean marsh]

wait

holy crap

I hate my life

I had no clue I could do that

I always grab a box, 2 saws, and a crowbar

let me test this

[undone marsh]

This happens with all of the NPCs due to the collision detection of the items, they're tracked as a "floor" for the foot to rest on

[ocean marsh]

THANK YOU

[last lotus]

Np!

[twin knoll]

I really like the map design

[ocean marsh]

Same

[twin knoll]

Check the security booth or locker rooms near the entrance of the amusement park or ride areas, otherwise idk

[quick crow]

Opinions?

[green storm]

amazing that we can activate the ferry wheel any time of the party

[quick crow]

guys I just totally found iris

[green storm]

is this real? :0

[quick crow]

no its a mod :(

[green storm]

darn

[quick crow]

kokosko made it!

Its called "Ultimate Level Editor"

OH GOD IT CAUGHT FIRE

the wind FROM THE STORM IS MAKING IT SPREAD

SOMEONE HELP ME

IM GONNA DIE

[last lotus]

How do you get that?? :0

[quick crow]

its from kokoskos server

[near meadow]

Is that an actual game file

though that kokosko pulled

[quick crow]

no no i placed down the fire and stuff using the level editor

you can pull out things from the game files so I setup a way to turn on the ferris wheel and place down some fire effects

[near meadow]

ahh ic

[quick crow]

I could send you an invite to his server

[near meadow]

no thanks i dont really mod

[quick crow]

its easy to setup

[near meadow]

I was just curious if that fire thing was an unused game file for future content

[quick crow]

I think its just something from base ue5

anyone have any suggestions for a scene to make in game?

[last lotus]

Inv me, but dm me the invite not sure if we're allowed to link on this server

Btw where's the lightning pole

[last lotus]

I found it!

Dang, the thing worked and the ferris wheel started running but then I got taken by the Guest

[drowsy junco]

wait the guest is in hn3

how long has he been in it for

[deft summit]

his design has been revealed since Prototype 3

but technically speaking, the Forest Dweller has been in the game since Prototype 1

just with every version before P3 using the placeholder name "Forest Dweller" and placeholder model

oh and a placeholder catch system too

[loud karma]

should i make short little videos comparing placeholder anims to the final(ish?) anims in prototype 3 vs pre alpha

[deft summit]

that would be cool yeah

[blissful river]

I feel like the pre alpha still has a LOT of placeholder animations

I wouldn’t call them final at all

[last lotus]

I'm excited to see how this game will look in its more final stages

But for a game this big it'll definitely need more than 3 or 4 alphas

[gusty elbow]

I wonder if like, they'll ever add a home for the player, or maybe like one of the hotel rooms could act as the players home while they stay in town

mainly just for the day/night cycle so that you could have a place to sleep

and maybe an item box to keep everything

[gentle carbon]

just to skip further into a run?

there should be time of day specific activity's

it will be crazy when the ai has all the finished animations and stuff and can act like how they always said the neighbor would

right now they really just like, run around

[gusty elbow]

Just to sort of reset the day/night cycle if the player really wants to

Skip to morning type deal

[gusty elbow]

Yeah I do hope they get developed more

The ai did honestly feel like one of the weakest parts of the experience

I’m really interested in what the decision making of the ai and like how exactly they work

If the devs could release finite state machine diagrams of the different AI’s it would be so cool imo

Cause like just starting off from a basic concept of the residents, you have your average ordinary people with their routines, and then they switch states depending on if they’re in their home and they detect trespassing (ie objects misplaced, windows broken, objects generally broken, hearing sounds from the player) they switch to a searching mode, if they find the player then they attack the player and try to get the player out of the house, if they don’t find the player then they would try to put anything back in its place if anything is moved or try to fix anything broken like windows

One of the biggest issues I feel with a lot of the areas was that it didn’t really feel like I was playing around the ai to try and combat it, rather that it was just kind of a dumb ai that runs at whatever it sees most of the time, so I feel like just trying to focus on the ai responding to what the player is doing would be a good step

[gentle carbon]

would that not just skip the run?

[gusty elbow]

Well I’m assuming in future builds the whole time limit of the run ending after I think 30 minutes would be removed

[gentle carbon]

uh thats a core part of the game

[gusty elbow]

And the game would be able to go on for as many day/night cycles as the player can play

[gentle carbon]

locked in

[gusty elbow]

Oh

[gentle carbon]

thats like THE thing

[gusty elbow]

I’m not sure I like that

[severe merlin]

Here’s brief explanation #hn3-discussion message

[gusty elbow]

Oh, well thanks

Lemme read through it

[gentle carbon]

"Like Janusz accidentally blew up bakery"

[gusty elbow]

Mmmmmm okay I see the idea

Is the plan to always keep the run the same length or is the idea for the time to increase as more is added to the game?

[gentle carbon]

figure it out as development goes thing I think

30 minutes right now I think

[gusty elbow]

Yeah I think it’s 30 mins

I think maybe increasing that to an hour could be good in the future? But that really depends on the feel of the next version and whether an hour would be right for the game

[gentle carbon]

my only worry with it is like, then the ai only has 30 minutes to develop and tell a story or whatever, so I wonder how much variation there can be in that time

[gusty elbow]

Yeah

I do like the quest stuff with the characters and being able to help them out by gifting them things

Or well, not quite gifting, more like returning?

[woven lodge]

I wonder if the loop could be longer if the important AI events happen sooner during it?

[gentle carbon]

The shorter the time I think the more packed the game has to be, so that every 30 minutes loop you have to learn enough for there to be progression, but also not enough for the next 30 minutes of gameplay to leanr a new thing

[severe merlin]

We are still looking for balance, but current length (30 min) is a sweet spot. Too short and it will ruin experience due to mental pressure. Too long and you’ll be waiting for wages to certain events to align (and people will ask for fast-forward function).
Length of the session is not affected by the amount of content, since you don’t need to try to squeeze all content in one run.

[severe merlin]

Not exactly. NPC do indeed try to tell a story but main chunks of the story player will get by exploring and experimenting, not by just observing NPCs

[gentle carbon]

yeah

[gusty elbow]

I do still need to play around with the game more to see all the interactions cause I haven’t quite done all of it, I’ve only done the stuff with the baker and archivist, I know there’s one more person who you can give something to I believe but I haven’t done that quite yet

[gentle carbon]

this is a more personal worry, Idk if it would be a game problem, but I hope the looping and experiencing things in chunks doesn't make me disconnected from the characters or what's happening

[gusty elbow]

Ah, yeah I do see the issue with having it be longer when going with a loop set up.

[gentle carbon]

I was thinking the sleeping you mentioned was a fast forward button

[severe merlin]

Have you felt disconnected playing pre-Alpha? For me it’s hard to say, of course, I feel connected for all the different reasons.

[gusty elbow]

So what I’m generally gathering is that with the game, the sort of core idea is for the player to try to go through the loop, gather knowledge of the loop and how things generally go, then use said knowledge to change the way things go (ie interacting with an npc by giving them a special item) until you have enough built up to where you are able to know how to make it to the end

[wooden condor]

NPCs are actually pretty cool in pre-alpha for me. But actually they would feel more alive, if you would have to watch them just a bit, to see some interesting lore parts.

[wooden condor]

Like, you can find lore or gameplay stuff in their houses, but it feels just a bit not enough for me.

[gusty elbow]

This is just a thought, but if it hasn’t been considered, perhaps having keycodes/passwords as certain objective markers could be a good way to do the whole “your knowledge is the only thing you keep with you in the loop” since it greatly speeds things up and once you collect it you have it permanently

[woven lodge]

Do you guys think the structures and buildings in HN3 are just block-outs or the final models?

[magic flume]

nikita, will there by any chance be a more optimised version for really low end devices? my computer lags frequently while playing

also love your games 😄

[gentle carbon]

well there hasn't been much to connect me yet, but I think the loop puts you in a very 3rd party position with everything, I mean you learn more about a character, see the development depending on what you do, therefore learning more, but then the development is reset, and over time my thought process will become "I wonder what I can do to this ai to progress more" I will stop seeing them as characters but more as architypes to mess with for a bigger picture, while ignoring the smaller stuff. But like I mentioned this is a more personal worry, because I just naturally view stories, especially in games, very objectively, it's why I'm a lore person, it takes a lot for me to connect outside of that

[drowsy junco]

the game, like most games, should be more optimized at full release

but i wouldnt expect any optimization patches for a pre alpha

[gentle carbon]

like I love fnaf but I don't really care about the characters much outside of their well characterization, not that fnaf does characterization very well

[gusty elbow]

Personally the ai did feel a bit off at points personally, they didn’t quite always feel responsive to hearing/seeing me. Worst it got was in the I think gas station (whichever building had the garage) where the resident I think bugged out and just could not see me, they would just walk straight past me (could be that they couldn’t see me cause I was standing still?) and like they would be right next to me

[magic flume]

yeah ik, but i love playing the game and being able to explore, but even on the lowest settings my pc just can't handle it

[gentle carbon]

i mean I generally just really dislike the ai right now, but all my issues feel like things that just get taken care of through development cause they are so obvious, so I don't like pointing them out

[gusty elbow]

With optimization, tbh my laptop has been feeling the heat with the alpha too, literally, most games usually don’t heat up my laptop, the only one that like really gets it going is Alan Wake 2 and that game is an absolute monster, yet the alpha has been heating my laptop up

[gentle carbon]

dont think I have had any problems with the pre-alpha there

gotten past the level of bad optimization for my computer to be fine

[gusty elbow]

Fair

Well, it’s getting late for me, I’m gonna head off, it was very lovely talking to all of you. Thank you Turisto for your lovely insight into the game, I wish you all the luck with HN3, it’s really shaping up to be something truly special. Have a nice night everyone

[gentle carbon]

night

[quartz sequoia]

I was able to get to the Weather Station without the cable carrrrr

the open areas are fun to walk around in

[gentle pebble]

Will the later builds have more days?

[last lotus]

Most likely

[severe merlin]

The question was about disconnect due to loop mechanics 🙂

[severe merlin]

Highly unlikely.

[gentle pebble]

So it would basically be one day but would we get more time

[severe merlin]

Game probably stays at 30 minutes per session, 1,5 in game day.

[gentle pebble]

Ok

[gentle pebble]

What would be like the main focus of the next build like how Pre Alpha was mainly on story and gameplay improvements

[sonic birch]

I would still like an option to keep your items after time resets so you don’t have to gather them all over again, maybe as a difficulty setting?

Like easy mode could let you keep items after reset, as well as show the AI relationship levels with the player

[vocal arrow]

So the game will be 30+30+30= 1 hour and 30 mins long? Of course, it will be more because of the exploring and such...right?

[flint agate]

so a little question, what is the guy at the supermarket supposed to do? he only just runs at you if you sprint and then just goes right back to crying, is that what hes supposed to do?

[gentle carbon]

he is just aggressive and sad in this build

[gentle carbon]

are you saying that the main game would only be 3 loops long?

[vocal arrow]

I hope not

[light tapir]

In my opinion hello neighbor 3 pre alpha is a huge upgrade from the prototype 3 but in order to be more fun I think the game needs puzzles like hello neighbor 1 and 2. To be specific, it doesnt need to be a puzzle game, but having some things to solve whould be fun.

[earnest cape]

I feel the NPCs need a lot more polishing, of course it’s just a pre-alpha but they are very random in movement and behavior at times. I’d say they just need a lot more work in that aspect.

[light tapir]

it would also make the game longer

[severe merlin]

Not sure what you mean by 30+30+30

[blissful zinc]

I think they mean three ingame sessions?

I'm not entirely sure myself

Also, completely random question based on something I discussed with a friend the other day;

What bands do you think Peterson would listen to? He always struck me as a guy who'd listen to 70s rock music

Led zeppelin, thin lizzy and the like

But i could also totally see him listening to people like elvis since he would've been a kid in that era

[near hawk]

The session stays at 30 Minutes most Likely, you're not supposed to explore all in one session, but learn from multiple and use that to explore even more.
Unless yoy mean like the content would take 1.5 hours?

[thick ferry]

[light tapir]

i think he doesnt want people see him so he moves in the dark

[quartz sequoia]

Personally if the game time stays at 30 minutes, I don't think an insanely large map would benefit the gameplay at all.

[nimble walrus]

Will in the later builds items spawn at random spots and not at same spots? Because people just can look up guide and don't care about exploring, when main purpose of the game is to explore

[quick crow]

Anyone know how to ||save jacob from his car crash?||

[nimble walrus]

||I don't think, there is a way to do that.||

[quick crow]

||Oh man, also what does lighting fireworks do besides summon that blue signed symbol under the lit and unlit area symbol?. I know its supposed to make the town safer but what does that do?||

[pseudo spoke]

||Have you found a note written from Jacob in the Gas Station yet? That gives you a clue||

[nimble walrus]

||Guest isn't going to attack you then while it shows up, since he is happy about it as far as I know. Basically allows you to go anywhere on the map even in unlit areas.||

[quick crow]

||The quantum rider one? I have yet to find anything related to saving him||

[quick crow]

||Oh sick!||

[molten trout]

id make a joke about the amount of hidden text in this chat looking like something

but

i think ill get banned

[light tapir]

do you guys think puzzles would make the game more fun

[pseudo spoke]

||Yes that one. He talks about how the episode he wants back is in the Cinema, and he crashes his car outside the Cinema trying to get it himself.||

[nimble walrus]

I would clown people that leak stuff early on Twitter, because they mostly do it for attention, just like that Peterson guy, who "leaks stuff".

[quick crow]

||Ive given him the tape before but he stil drives anyways but ill try again||

[molten trout]

thats nice

[pseudo spoke]

Might be a bug then, actually

I've seen him enter the car, turn it around in the garage, and exit, so anything goes

[nimble walrus]

I rly wonder why we didn't spawn at bus stop, since Alma isn't from Raven Brooks

[pseudo spoke]

Has anyone managed to ||get the Historian to do this, by the way? She's the one who's meant to set off the fireworks I'm pretty sure, but from my experience, her AI is one of the most broken in this build||

[nimble walrus]

||From what I have seen, most of the AI's are broken in this build.||

[pseudo spoke]

Most active one I've seen that also chases a lot is Covered tbh

[nimble walrus]

Like Jacob ||can't stop chasing you and trowing stuff all the time||

[robust citrus]

Why u are talking in the files

[nimble walrus]

[quick crow]

||I gave jacob his tape now I wait||

[nimble walrus]

Ngl rly hope HN2 climbing feature returns in HN3, in some shape or form with ofc not allowing you to climb on some stuff.

Maybe like allow to climb on stuff that is idk wall thickness.

[light tapir]

yes it would be helpful

[nimble walrus]

Lots of youtubers also were like thinking why they cannot climb.

[quick crow]

Will characters ever get real voicelines aside from the occasional "Hey!" ?

[light tapir]

hope they do

[crude ravine]

There is no parkour in hn3

So its unecessary

[quick crow]

Still, it would be great to have considering you need to crouch jump to get into high windows.

[half charm]

I do think there is a bunch of parkour in the game

the game lets you do stuff in so many different ways and I'd argue one of them is jumping around windows and stuff

[gleaming acorn]

most wrong statement i've ever read

[quick crow]

whenever I give it to him he immediately turns on the tv in his garage idk if thats him watching it or not, not to mention he immediately fixes the gen for the lights I believe

[gleaming acorn]

what kind of hn3 did you play

[quick crow]

and then when it becomes the time of the storm he wont crash his car?

[gleaming acorn]

jacob can't go to the cinema to get the tape if he already has it, y'know

it's written in his diary

i'm shocked you value his privacy like that

[nimble walrus]

Ikr and people stack boxes again like in HN1. Maybe make boxes squeez when you step on it, to avoid box climbing simulator.

[near hawk]

Yeah how can anyone value anything about Jacob

[quick crow]

||I gave janusz his book, and jacob his tape and historian her photo but when i gave it she just stood stil and didnt move||

@polar linden Yeah ||The historian wont light the fireworks...||

[crude ravine]

yea there is some little parkours (i dont say "parkour" lol)

but u can beat them easily

[crude ravine]

they should remove crouch jump

[echo fulcrum]

The forest dweller doesn't exist probably

There is only the guest and the sun god

The sun god is most likely not the guest

[near hawk]

Wdym doesn't exist

[quick crow]

???

[celest plank]

i think itd be better to add onto that "mechanic"

imo its cooler than the wall climb thing

i can see wall climb accidentally triggering when u dont mean it and itd be annoying in a game like hn3

crouch jump is your own decision

but it should be more fleshed out if itll stay

[echo fulcrum]

There isn't a "forest dweller" there's just the guest and the sun god

The guest is an imitation of the sun god

Most likely Aaron

I doubt the sun god is the guest because why would it even have that name

[livid crystal]

Is the guest and the mascot the same person? I noticed they are super duper familiar, but I'm confused about the timeline of hn3 and when it takes place

[echo fulcrum]

People think the mascot is a sun god or god of harvest

[livid crystal]

What? Why

[echo fulcrum]

Murales depict him dragging the sun on the city

The guest is most likely a corrupt imitation of the sun god

It's probably Aaron

[livid crystal]

Where can you find these depictions?

[echo fulcrum]

I'm not sure tho

Wait

[livid crystal]

The Aaron?

[echo fulcrum]

Yes the Aaron

[livid crystal]

Awesome

[echo fulcrum]

Theodore's son

[livid crystal]

Crazy reveal is that the mascot is a deranged Aaron, merging minds with the guest and becoming a wild beast that hunts in the golden apple amusement park, searching for its originality or something

[echo fulcrum]

Most likely the guest doesn't exist

Aaron is just crazy

[livid crystal]

I think its an ad for the golden apple park, to say that they bring sunshine to darkness

[echo fulcrum]

Could be yeah

[livid crystal]

Except it ain't official

[echo fulcrum]

But the thing is that there are even statues for the guest or sun god

It's not a mascot it's the god of the town

[livid crystal]

Oh wow

[celest plank]

its a mascot of ga

[echo fulcrum]

No it's not

The statues the town makes surely aren't a sponsorship for GA

[celest plank]

you can see that guy at the amusement park too

[livid crystal]

Maybe the GA used the sun God as a sponsor

[celest plank]

at the entrance

[echo fulcrum]

Yeah

[celest plank]

thatd be really controversial

[livid crystal]

It would

[echo fulcrum]

It's hello neighbor bro

[celest plank]

and something as "sun god" would probably not be widely known or accepted in the world which means its exclusive to the town

ga is not only in raven brooks

[echo fulcrum]

Why do they make statues of the guest

Then

[livid crystal]

I still wish to know the timeline of which this game takes place

Before or after?

[echo fulcrum]

Anyway there are different options

The guest is the sun god

[celest plank]

there are no statues

[livid crystal]

Yes there is

[celest plank]

the one in front of the hotel isnt made by ga

[livid crystal]

Its not official, buts it something like one

[echo fulcrum]

The one you build for all the prototypes

Excactly

[celest plank]

any prototype lore is not canon

[echo fulcrum]

If it's not made by GA then that mean that's the town god

[celest plank]

or the town is just using their mascot

[echo fulcrum]

You know it's also in pre alpha right?

[celest plank]

yes

my point still stands

[echo fulcrum]

That doesn't really make sense

I mean we can't know for sure

[livid crystal]

I found it cool that the neighbor went to the place his brother died

[echo fulcrum]

The shows not canon

[celest plank]

the town used to be in heavy influence of golden apple

[livid crystal]

Ok

[near hawk]

Tehnically in universe no one does have the name but Nikita implied the actual Guest is the sun God

[celest plank]

them taking some kind of god as a mascot is really unrealistic

it should be vice versa to make sense

[echo fulcrum]

So Walmart pulls up with a mascot and now squiggly the Walmart squirrel is your god?

[livid crystal]

We have a shadow demon, a bird man, a bird cult, and multiple supernatural stuff

[echo fulcrum]

The shadow demon is not supernatural

[celest plank]

thats up to people tho and there are no consequences to that

[celest plank]

uh still

[near hawk]

Shadow demon is a metaphor for fear in HN universe

[celest plank]

a company wouldnt adopt something this "niche" as their mascot across the entire company

[livid crystal]

I know, but still

Really cool character

[near hawk]

While bird Man has been confirmed as no supernatural and implied as human.
Bird cult is a cult nothing inherently supernatural there.

[echo fulcrum]

Surely it's more likely than using mascots ad god

[near hawk]

And like Nikita's story is grounded

[celest plank]

its vice versa if any of this is real

[echo fulcrum]

Wait the goat is writing

[livid crystal]

Doesn't the man pull golden apple out of his mouth, climb walls like a spider, and disappear into the shadows?

[celest plank]

the townfolk is using the mascot for something

not the other way around

[echo fulcrum]

I mean everything is an If at this point

[celest plank]

so dont assume

[near hawk]

When did he pull the Golden Apple?

Hn2 alphas?

[livid crystal]

I know its in the non canon alpha but yeah

Seems unnatural to me

[echo fulcrum]

You think I can't assume?

[near hawk]

In that alpha the guest was a metaphor i believe

[livid crystal]

Really?

[echo fulcrum]

I think it was just the neighbor

Or Aaron

[livid crystal]

That would be crazy