hn3-discussion

[high brook]

its just tricky to get by some characters

[quartz anchor]

They still clip throught walls tho

And the quest now just kills you

[celest plank]

literally THE ONLY flaw i had in my playthrough is the lag and its frustrating that i cant do more with the game since its genuinely fun

the lag is preventing me from doing like 80% of stuff

[near hawk]

Idk about that "execute my plans" part, just one ending makes it feel more restricted

[celest plank]

its playable but u gotta suffer through the lag all cause of trees it seems

[limpid pewter]

my rating of pre alpha is 7 out of 10

[brave thunder]

better than prototype 3 imo, atleast the game tells me what to do

[celest plank]

i mean its a pre alpha and the storyline itself is like better even if its the only one for now

theres so much to expore in this build but i literally cannot because of the lag 😭

[brave thunder]

0/10 cuz player model has no head(jk)

actually 6.5/10

[celest plank]

actually maybe i can but it'd be hard and uncomfortable

the really unplayable one was prototype 3

[trim trout]

Pre alpha is annoying with the historian

[high brook]

are they gonna update pre alpha?

with patches?

[celest plank]

the only characters i came across properly were like janusz and isaac

cant play the game for long enough with this lag and i genuinely believe my pc could handle such a game

its just like not optimized well

[trim reef]

for me it doesnt refresh fast enough, i have a 180 refresh rate and its still buggy, also when those weird trap-mobile thingies catch me they never let go i was just stuck there

[celest plank]

im not gonna watch any vids on pre alpha i lowk wanna explore myself and i hope they do some fixes to pre alpha so we could do it

[deft summit]

ok the gradual story thing is actually kinda cool

it still keeps it to where when you lose

it resets

but it's not a complete 100% reset

[trim reef]

also i wanna interact with characters and build unique bonds like promised but they just beat me up

or run away

[celest plank]

if u barge into their houses theyre gonna beat you up

[deft summit]

I think having a save system like that is actually a really helpful thing and I'm surprised I didn't think of it myself

[trim reef]

yeah but i didnt, i walked up to the green guy infront of the bakery and he beat me up non stop for like 10 minutes

[dawn linden]

Awe man the|| placed levers|| don't save between sessions ☹️

[severe merlin]

What are your specs?

[brave thunder]

yea same

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436024529540485326/1438934838206926980/caption.gif

[trim reef]

Also how do I get a flash light? I was looking around and kept getting attacked/captured by the trap bot that wouldnt let go

[near hawk]

Do you mean the objectives thing?

[trim reef]

like i felt so compressed to certain buildings because i couldnt enter without getting stuck and havign to reset the game

[deft summit]

I think that's what the Devlog mentions yeah

this devlog 100% may be my favorite one because of the fake commercial part

[rustic forge]

How to find the neighbor in pre-alpha?

[trim reef]

i love this devlog i just like devlog 3 because of the message behind it

[deft summit]

like it's just a bunch of fake TV shows and that's always really cool

[rigid jasper]

yo can someone dm me the zip for hn3 pre-alpha because im on mac and i cant download it for myself

[trim reef]

mac users cant download steam games?

[hardy vine]

WOW! the pre alpha is SO GOOD! each prototype just got better and better, and now the pre alpha is even better too! It feels more polished than prototype 3, and the notes feature is amazing. Cant wait to play some more later!

[trim reef]

also why did the prototype 3 have a cutscene and pre-alpha didnt

[meager walrus]

prealpha is more about

[hardy vine]

Yeah i got that same question

[meager walrus]

other stuff then the cutscenes

[trim reef]

i just started in the middle of raven brooks with no true direction or items

[thorn wraith]

He's probobly in the weather station

[meager walrus]

i think the cutscene will return some time later

[severe merlin]

Open objectives menu

[tall lintel]

yo WHERE is the ice cream booth PLEASE

[celest plank]

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700H
GPU: Intel Iris Xe Graphics
RAM: 12GB

[trim reef]

I did but I have no idea where any of that is, is there like a map to guide us or do we just have to go hunting for it?

[celest plank]

ohyeah also one thing i kinda found annoying is how the characters can literally sense you getting into their houses from 500 miles away

[trim reef]

I did remember where the hotel was so i was able to get REPORT #13

[celest plank]

but it isnt like a big deal

[tall lintel]

there's like a hundred maps around the town

like way too many

[pseudo spoke]

There's maps all over the town, including right where you start.

[severe merlin]

There are many map on the streets. Closest one right where you start

[trim reef]

oop

[tall lintel]

you literally spawn staring at it

nobody knows where the ice cream booth is?

[gentle pebble]

I know where

[tall lintel]

can you give me a bit of directions?

[trim reef]

no it is something that bothered me too, cause its not just the house owners but also the bots with traps that capture you and NEVERRRR let go. I had to reset twice because of that

[little onyx]

fall damage and the guest being instant game overs is ruining the experience for me

[trim reef]

like i open the door and im immediately captured

[celest plank]

honestly i can only judge the game when i play it properly

[little onyx]

it makes me not want to experiment or explore because im being punished for it

[celest plank]

from what i managed to play its genuinely the best build

[tall lintel]

true you gotta be so persistant

[trim reef]

i think there should be a health bar and ways to heal instead of instantly dying to the guest or the fall damage\

its like im tiptoing over landmines

[celest plank]

it might sound biased but i find the hn3 builds the most fun to play from all the hn games out there

[trim reef]

i loveeeee love LOVE the aesthetic of HN#

Hn3*

[near hawk]

I just didn't find pre alpha that fun

[eager glade]

same

[near hawk]

Npcs were kinda... Lackluster

[celest plank]

i still think fog would make the game a million times better i saw some smoke and thought its a fog it looked so cool

[near hawk]

I didn't even meet Coned

[celest plank]

#hn3-pre-alpha-chat

[cunning yacht]

i saw him, but then i lost lmao

[little onyx]

the butterfly effect seems to have been removed entirely from this version

[near hawk]

I barely met Historian

[little onyx]

i didnt see NPCs interacting and they all primarily stayed in their own homes

[celest plank]

i only met janusz and isaac

[near hawk]

Janusz only cried

[celest plank]

covered too but for like a second only

[cunning yacht]

yeah, i don't like this version

[near hawk]

Jacob was evil for some reason

[celest plank]

MERELY because of my lag

[trim reef]

im excited to finish but i feel like it went back down the rabbit hole that they were so desperately trying to avoid of having the instant restart and making it so the player doesnt feel anxious to explore--like im so hesitant to go into buildings because of th constant fear of restarting, or finding the 4 locations, and etc...

[eager glade]

i saw covered coned janusz signed jacob thats it

[celest plank]

man was chasing me throughout the entire town

what did i do 😭

[near hawk]

Can we all agree that Jacob only deserves to suffer

He is evil

[little onyx]

everything is scripted when the idea before was a game that was unscripted

[celest plank]

wait what

[near hawk]

He deserved Bob shutting down his business

[celest plank]

oh yeh i confused isaac with jacob

[night vigil]

I'm suprised the optimization is actually better. Not perfect, but better

[cunning yacht]

bro has spartan rage.
he broke a table

[celest plank]

i had to knock jacob out and also throw 3 chairs on him

[cunning yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-sponge-bob-mail-postman-election-day-vote-gif-18099193

he supossed to be a coward instead evil

[trim reef]

like, i feel like they gave us choice but then revoked it because it wasnt good for the player but it was one of the top reasons why i loved hn3 was because it was so diverse and you could really reach the full story whilst still having that free exploration and interaction with the world and its people.

[celest plank]

specs nikita

[celest plank]

bro i wish i could give feedback man 😭

[near hawk]

Teddy is my favourite character in the franchise but he sucked as an ai

[little onyx]

feels like a few step backs were taken and now we are back at where HN2 was at its beta

[near hawk]

He just got stuck nonstop

[trim reef]

we need a feedback channel for hn3

[celest plank]

#1494695990832267396

[little onyx]

there is one i just didnt realize before i started talking

[trim reef]

god i loved the hn2 alphas

[celest plank]

yeah maniac

[trim reef]

oop

[near hawk]

Tsk tsk tsk

[celest plank]

Shame On You Boyo.

[cunning yacht]

minecraft type sign

[idle narwhal]

So the overall opinion is, that Pre-Alpha is worse than P3?

[near hawk]

Idk for overall but for me, definitely

[cunning yacht]

do you think this version is good?

[trim reef]

I haven't played it enough to stabilize that, but so far id say its pretty balanced out, but its not what we were told hn3 was gonna be like during the prototypes

[near hawk]

I think it's mid gameplay wise

[idle narwhal]

Heard many people say that.

So in conclusion, after P2, the game went downhill?

[little onyx]

P3 was the best build

[celest plank]

im pretty sure the butterfly effect is still there u just need to sidetrack urself from the main objectve

[cunning yacht]

map is complex, I cannot even find myself

[little onyx]

the festival obective was stretched thin but the AI was at its most interesting

[trim reef]

No i think P3 was when it really got my attention

[near hawk]

I liked p3

[blissful river]

I really hated P3 I can’t lie.

[near hawk]

It was very fun

[little onyx]

p3 had some issues but had the best overall everything

[cunning yacht]

same

[wild girder]

Hey, Nikita. Would you like to see Miis I made of six of the HN3 characters?

[celest plank]

i found p3 fun to like watch on yt but it was impossible to play for me

[idle narwhal]

Yea, I noticed that the game is more and more going away from its original concept.

[celest plank]

the last time i played well was prototype 2

[severe merlin]

It's interesting to see how polar opposite people's opinions divide here

[celest plank]

nikita i sent my specs above if u need to see them'

[trim reef]

I only GOT to watch hn3 p3 on youtube becuase i only found out hn3 was in development after the playtest was available

[celest plank]

inm trying so hard not to watch pre alpha i wanna try playing it myself

[empty shell]

In my opinion its worse. The NPCs get stuck in stairs often, the fall damage can get annoying and it feels more empty. In P3 the NPCs wandered around and now in Pre alpha I only see Janusz around and nobody else. I haven't played for long but these r things I've noticed

[trim reef]

honestly i dont think its gonna be a reasonably lengthed youtube video, most creators would have to make several videos covering it all OR have an extremelyyy long youtube video

[trim reef]

I keep getting stuck on the trap bot thingys

[near hawk]

To me Teddy especially just got stuck into everything

[wild girder]

I would love for there to be a GIF of Nikita throwing the controller in the bin.

[near hawk]

With the other npcs my problem is they don't have many interactions

[celest plank]

from what i played pre alpha is better than any other hn3 version but i really wanna like go deeper

[empty shell]

Oh and the durability of crowbars etc. It takes 2 crowbars to open up a door and It's really really exhausting especially because now crowbars aren't that easy to find.

[celest plank]

the lag wont let me

[near hawk]

And not much of a routine.
Janusz just cries then dies

Jacob is just a joser

[still gale]

i liked this way better than p3, and i imagine the butterfly effect really isnt present bc its like....only one in day game as of right now instead of the what, week thats planned at least pretty sure?

[trim reef]

like i love this storyline but its just too buggy and i fear i still find myself lost regardless of the features put in place to prevent that

[empty shell]

I somehow managed to befriend him even tho we're not supposed to. I gave him like 2 bananas and he just stands there beside me. I love it tho 😭

[polar panther]

So the ending is juste the || report 13 || ?

[celest plank]

cant open the spoilet

[near hawk]

Maybe they did make him befriendable?

[little onyx]

NPCs feel like theyre just regulated to puzzles now (give X item to get Y result) instead of giving them any item to see what they do with it, but I may not have experimented enough

[verbal flint]

yeah

[jolly mirage]

Jacob is Jax

[idle narwhal]

Somehow, everything still feels very rough and experimental. I really hope the game finds its footing in the next versions.

[severe merlin]

Using crowbars to break door directly is not really efficient. Crowbars works bets on boards that block doors or windows

[empty shell]

Well If I move a little bit he starts chasing me again so not really

[celest plank]

oh yeah speaking of durability its more realistic in pre alpha i liked that

[near hawk]

Oh.
Yeah the same happened to me

[jolly mirage]

Maybe hand saw would be good for doors

[celest plank]

this version helped me see where hn3 is heading better

[polar panther]

Report 13

[trim reef]

Oh i broke the door to 204 with ||a saw and a crowbar|| well i guess there just needs to be code put in place to prevent that then if its an issue in your perspective but still i think its quite resourceful to keep options open and use what you find

[stone elk]

Yall they already made a UET for pre alpha lol

[little onyx]

its supposed to be an option to open it, just not the optimal one

i do appreciate that design element

[empty shell]

Is there an item that is efficient in breaking doors?

[still gale]

hammer

[polar panther]

Ladder

[jade night]

The fall damage doesn't work well sometimes, when an AI kicks you out of their house, like the Historian in the Museum for example, she can throw you out from a high floor which leads to the game restarting due to the fall damage.

[empty shell]

where can I find it?

[trim reef]

I found the saw in ||201|| on the bed and then crawled out the window and did some parkour to get above the hotel, then went downstairs to an abandonedish floor to get the ||crowbar||

[severe merlin]

Sledgehammer is pretty strong on doors

[high brook]

i have a question, will pre-alpha get patches to fixes some things?

[celest plank]

i hope 😭

[empty shell]

Good to know!

[still gale]

||in the bakery in storage, just look around for switches to open it up lol||

[severe merlin]

Probably not. We are currently working on the next iteration. (which has many things already fixed)
What specifically you are bothered by?

[trim reef]

is hello neighbor made with c++ or blueprints

[empty shell]

Thanks!!

[severe merlin]

Both

[celest plank]

i mean there rly isnt anything to fix (judging by what i played)
i dont know if its my pc or the game but ye its not smooth

[stone elk]

Yo Nikita currently playing the pre alpha, one thing im confused about is why the npcs still dont properly use/open doors even tho it was shown as early as in devlog 3

[high brook]

i think its just the optimization mostly and lag but everything else is fine

[severe merlin]

Mostly C++

[severe merlin]

What specs do you have?

[trim reef]

If I wanted to make an indie horror game with chapters would you suggest mostly c++ or blueprints

[celest plank]

same thing lichally the only issue

[polar panther]

I don't like NPCs who stay in the same position and grab you in the same spot

[high brook]

i have pretty good specs but its lagging still somehow

it must be the ai

[tall lintel]

there are WWAYYY TOO MANY TREES for no reason the map design is kinda vomit in terms of spam

[trim reef]

for me its the refresh rate even though i have a great refresh rate

[empty shell]

Oh yeah I've seen Coned get stuck like 4 times throughout my playthrough in one place and he couldn't move at all. Couldn't even chase me.

[severe merlin]

Use whatever you can use to actually finish the game. Tools doesn't rally matter

[high brook]

that too

[trim reef]

it just feels choppy

[high brook]

yea they could be toned down or made less dense branch wise

[celest plank]

the trees is whats killing my fps

(probably)

i dont think its the ai

[severe merlin]

What are your specs?

[chilly matrix]

why is janusz crying?

[weak night]

because his wife is dead i believe

[celest plank]

when i look at a bunch of trees it just gets laggier

[empty shell]

Me too

[broken galleon]

and a bunch of trees are everywhere

[chilly matrix]

he has a wife?

[trim reef]

like its not laggy, its say its pretty smooth but it feels glitchy and choppy when i turn my camera or walk through crowded environments like the town

[weak night]

apparently, yes

[cunning yacht]

he lost aura in this version

[tall lintel]

also another complaint of mine i see people having is the fall damage, you shouldnt make a vertical map AND have the npcs throw you upwards when the fall damage is so unforgiving

[celest plank]

there are spots where its literally BUTTER SMOOTH however yeah the majority of the map is covered in trees

[tall lintel]

had apparently

also because his bakery is not doing well

[ornate sedge]

where is the weather station located?

[weak night]

anyone know if theres more endings than the core one?

[little onyx]

get more notes to find out

[meager walrus]

hey nikita is there another item that can help break down doors faster?

[celest plank]

sledgehammer

[tall lintel]

near the amusement park

different ways to get there

[trim reef]

i wish we could chat with npcs before they abseloutely beat us up with no remorse

[mortal crater]

How do I find the neighbor

[ornate sedge]

thanks

[plucky yew]

there should be a way to reset the game and the notes

[near hawk]

Supermarket got closed down

[tall lintel]

anybody know where the ice cream booth is?

[celest plank]

i dont see a reason why

[trim reef]

in case you want to start fresh

[severe merlin]

The only faster way is to find anothery way 🙂
There's always many many ways to get places without breaking the doors

[celest plank]

you can just not look at the notes

[polar panther]

Real

[trim reef]

we should be able to break certain thing with our hands

[celest plank]

not happening

[meager walrus]

oh ok,tysm!

[celest plank]

alma's hands are sticks

[high brook]

im gonna try pre alpha on my steam deck and see how it runs

[sonic birch]

Can they please make fall damage less punishing? The map is very vertical and yet you can very easily die from it.

[celest plank]

so like on the topic of lag does anyone know how to reduce it

[gentle pebble]

20 to 50 fps

Btw

[tall lintel]

exactly what i said, this!!

it doesnt make sense on such a vertical map and buildings

[still gale]

runs decently well, a lil bit of lag on medium settings at least but playable

[broken galleon]

optimisation ain’t getting much better but it’s alright

[trim reef]

i miss being kidnapped by the guest instead of killed

[gentle pebble]

It’s slightly better

[tall lintel]

it is

[gentle pebble]

Just use flashlight

[polar panther]

I saw your video lol

[celest plank]

they just need to place a little less trees

[gentle pebble]

That’s on my laptop

[trim reef]

i cant find any flashhhhlighhhhtss'

[gentle pebble]

It’s in the hotel

[polar panther]

Everywhere💀

[jolly mirage]

Is next build alpha 1 or pre alpha 2?

[polar panther]

Honestly, I'm a little disappointed for the ending

[gentle pebble]

It’s a very early build though

[trim reef]

im overwhelmed i feel like im literally looking everuwhere but apparently theres a ton of everything i cant find and im just selectively blind

[polar panther]

I would have preferred an ending like prototype 3 with the neighbor

[sonic birch]

https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1494759341331452165

[gentle pebble]

This version is kinda like a Theo and Alma introduction

[trim reef]

does the neighbor even appear

[thin portal]

Do you think that next version will take less time to release than these previous two?. We had to wait a bit for Prototype 3 and Pre-Alpha.

[little onyx]

i don't like having fall damage at all

[gentle pebble]

Yes

In the special place

[polar panther]

Really?

[celest plank]

i hope alpha 1 will be less laggy

[celest plank]

thats my only issue

[polar panther]

I have too much lag, I know I'm playing on iGPU, but I'm really on Low settings everywhere

[trim reef]

guys what if the game releases on february 29th 2028

the full one

cause thats when it takes place

[polar panther]

Good idea

[plucky yew]

I doubt they already have the game release planned but its a good idea

[limpid pewter]

actually my new ranking is 8/10 starting to grow on me

[gentle pebble]

Yes

The one and only place

[meager walrus]

you guys wonder if the basement is still intact in hn3

i do

[polar panther]

We can see it in your video?

[high brook]

Ok it actually works really well on steam deck

[gentle pebble]

Go to end

[gentle pebble]

Told you

[polar panther]

Yes, very end?

[gentle pebble]

Yes

[left sequoia]

ZIM SO HAPPY!

[nimble walrus]

The new server icon looks nice

[polar panther]

Uhm I can't see it

[split niche]

Is there a quicker way get to the amusement park than going through the cable car nonsense?

[polar panther]

At what point do we see the neighbor?

[untold grotto]

its very end of the game

[polar panther]

Idk I am just seeing the book

[random shell]

Just finished so much better than P3 obviously

[barren bison]

Yo does anyone know what to do at the ice cream booth

I made it there but idk how to progress

[ionic bay]

Nikita, Are there still mysteries we haven't seen in Pre-Alpha? I was expecting more

[crude ravine]

i hope alpha 1 gonna be good

[blissful shuttle]

every alpha 1 of each game was good

[crude ravine]

p3 is better than pre alpha

[blissful shuttle]

whats the issue with pre alpha?

[quaint dagger]

Salam semaye

[meager walrus]

are you sure

hn2 alpha 1

[blissful shuttle]

i mean its like alpha 1.5 i dont see any issues with it

[meager walrus]

i mean yeah it was preety good but the bugs are the things that kind of dumb it down

[zenith pelican]

Is it known if the full release is gonna have more than 3 hours of playtime? (I haven't looked at anything yet)

[blissful shuttle]

i mean it's an alpha what do u expect

[meager walrus]

in hn2 alpha 1 you can get softlocked in the first 5 seconds of gameplay

[blissful shuttle]

how?

[meager walrus]

i dont know

[blissful shuttle]

bro

[meager walrus]

the guests ai was preety roughly made

[crude ravine]

U cant break a item (especially boards and doors), less npc, bad ai (janusz cries only), there is no cutscene, very very very less content

[meager walrus]

so sometimes he would accidentally get you stuck in the house mseh

[blissful shuttle]

i mean alpha 1 hn 1 was also very buggy and no one complains about that

[meager walrus]

its a small update,

its not crazy updates like the prototypes were

where each one containted newer and newer content

[crude ravine]

they deleted almost everything

[blissful shuttle]

hes a bit depressed ok

give him a break

[meager walrus]

no?

[blissful shuttle]

also is janusz a russian name

or smth

[limpid pewter]

i think pre alpha and prototype 3 are equal

[ashen thorn]

why does the supermarket guy just cry at the stairs when u spawn

[blissful shuttle]

Because hes depressed

[restive oxide]

polish

[blissful shuttle]

oh

[restive oxide]

his supermarket is due to close

[meager walrus]

id argue they added MORE content then in proto 3

[crude ravine]

i loved the lore only

[blissful shuttle]

i mean it sounded polish but i thought russia had same names

[meager walrus]

in proto 3 npcs just wandered around doing mostly nothing

[celest plank]

yes

[quaint dagger]

Salam Semaye

[meager walrus]

meanwhile in pre alpha they actually do stuff

[blissful shuttle]

i mean from what ive seen pre alpha is a huge step up from prototype 3

[celest plank]

this version felt less like some roughly put together playtest

[ripe coral]

I wonder about Jacob

Cause like in russian it's like Yakob(how I remember)

[meager walrus]

what are you doing play it

[limpid pewter]

and pre alpha map feels bigger

[blissful shuttle]

i have a crappy laptop

[meager walrus]

its 2 gbs

not that bad

[celest plank]

literally fix the lag and the pre alpha is 10/10 in my humble opinion

[quaint dagger]

JESUS CHRİST

[meager walrus]

plus the optimization is super good

[blissful shuttle]

oh i can download it,its the fps which im getting which is making the gameplay bad

[blissful shuttle]

i averaged 5 frames

[restive oxide]

lower the quality

[crude ravine]

the server will be blow up

[meager walrus]

id blame it on vsync since my game also runned slow

[restive oxide]

optimization won't help an old pc

[crude ravine]

(he is my friend guys)

[blissful shuttle]

everything was at low and reso at lowest and i was also on windowed mode

[meager walrus]

before turning off vsync

[blissful shuttle]

@meager walrus

[meager walrus]

then i dont know

[blissful shuttle]

its bc my laptop is pretty old

[meager walrus]

ik its old

[blissful shuttle]

like 5 years or smth

also does pre alpha have limited downloads or smth

why cant some ppl download it

[meager walrus]

my least favourite part about pre alpha is the map i feel like the living parts of the town is just kind of way too tightly placed toghether

like super cramped to me

[blissful shuttle]

?

[sand flare]

true like the only parts that felt alive where the main statue area

like at spawn

[split niche]

How do you actually beat the game once you get to the weather station?

[meager walrus]

i still belive that raven brooks should have big ol long streets like every other HN build ive ever seen

[high brook]

how is it running better on my steam deck than my good pc?

what is this sorcery

[blissful shuttle]

YOO GOOGLE REVEALED RELEASE DATE TRUST ME

[wild girder]

Are you aware that you have probably just accidentally made one of the best memes I have ever seen?

[blissful shuttle]

Why are u pinging nikita for no reason😔

[high brook]

me when i throw away a controller:

[trail mesa]

Yay Protot- wait... PRE ALPHA?

[subtle harness]

DUDE! This pre alpha is crazy! I love this new system! Objectives and saving is soo good idea and now finaly every place has purpuse! Before that it was just for exploration
I havent finished the game but i already loving it!

[meager walrus]

love that they changed the BBC thing to HN3 😭

that is golden

[high brook]

golden?

like golden apple?

[uneven snow]

Why is this so confusing 😭

[meager walrus]

no

[subtle harness]

Only thing i wished to be better is crowbar its soo weak its really hard now to break doors when there isnt any easier way

[high brook]

i wonder why jacob wasnt changed

they made the new model but never added it

unless model was made after PA was finished

[severe merlin]

Crowbar is best for boards on doors and windows. Breaking WHOLE doors is inefficient. There are always easier and faster routes than breaking doors as a whole, although breaking is not forbidden.

[plain torrent]

I love the pre alpha!!

[severe merlin]

When model is made it also got to get through other bunch of preparations, so we couldn't make it in time for pre-Alpha

[limpid pewter]

will next build be alpha 1 ?

[high brook]

probably

[restive oxide]

will pre alpha get bug fixes and updates or will it stay like this till next build?

[limpid pewter]

its pretty cool mayak is back

and actually explorable

[subtle harness]

I think this type of versions dont get updates until its full game

[severe merlin]

It will stay like this till the next version

[restive oxide]

alrighty

[high brook]

this is like HG all over again lol

[split niche]

The game ran perfectly for me

[limpid pewter]

we got mayak and refrence to gray manor wonder what next thing will be

[subtle harness]

What was first idea of this story in this version of game? And how was alma created? I mean what was inpiration or idea for her?

[blissful river]

I really don’t think that building had anything to do with the manor.

[jade night]

Something about Hello Neighbor 3, is that there's no vibe or mystery to it honestly. RBO, had a color scheme to it that gave it certain look, and atmosphere, Hello Guest had green/blue tones with high contrast, while HN3 uses only de-saturated brown tones that give it a very earthy real look, but I don't think that's a good thing since it's not a very memorable visual style.
A lot of the map looks the same, buildings don't particularly stand out.
I dunno, I just don't get that same feeling that HG and RBO gave, and still gives me.

[split niche]

Entirely disagree. I think they nearly nailed the atmosphere.

[high brook]

kinda, prototype 1 was more unique

but i like current too

[subtle harness]

I think its nice it has good atmosphere you cant feel as well as in hg but its still there and i like it and anyway its only pre alpha what do you know? May be they make it better

[limpid pewter]

wife died

[icy notch]

👍

[limpid pewter]

and he lost his job

[subtle harness]

Is baker like his mother or something? Is this same cafe as before? In hn 2?

[limpid pewter]

no

[split niche]

He opened the tasty bakery himself

[limpid pewter]

hn2 isnt really cannon to hn3

[signal geyser]

Janusz opened the bakery himself, not Gerda.

[nocturne coral]

hello, we have #hn3-pre-alpha-chat for gameplay and spoilers discussions, please use this room 🙂

[subtle harness]

Does anyone here finished game?

[agile kelp]

Yuh

A lot

[modest elm]

подскажите , где метио станция?

[signal geyser]

#russian-chat

[ionic bay]

Hey Nikita, I really need an answer to this: will there be major new features in the next version? Because the pre-alpha showed fewer differences than I expected

[polar linden]

i completed pre-alpha. u did a great job

[crude ravine]

pre alpha has less content than p3 💀

[polar linden]

за парком

[polar cairn]

this looks much better than the last prototype

[quaint dagger]

Jesus Muslim

[crude ravine]

graphics and 3d models better

holy moly

[polar cairn]

how do i get into the managers room at the cable car?

[near meadow]

Pre alpha is far better than prototype 3 by miles

[polar linden]

guys

[untold grotto]

both 7/10 to me

[polar linden]

is there any cutscenes either from final? it empty btw

[untold grotto]

no

[dark bison]

8/10 because the toy rifle's back spritually!

[polar linden]

damn

[opaque cosmos]

Got the main ending, is there anything else worth checking out?

[polar linden]

only bcs of that pre-alpha is 7/10

but i love evrything else

[dark bison]

get Jacob's item thrower

[opaque cosmos]

Yeah I did do that

It's cool I guess

[crude ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

[velvet fable]

how do i find the weather station???

[eager glade]

why didnt the guest in the devlog have these ropes?

[restive oxide]

it does

[eager glade]

i dont see it it isnt there

[velvet fable]

???

[eager glade]

next to gaap

[velvet fable]

whats gaap

[eager glade]

golden apple

amusement

[velvet fable]

oh

[eager glade]

parj

[velvet fable]

do i need to go to the museum???

[polar linden]

Nikita, so what happened to Bob Novak in pre-alpha?

waht even alpha will be about?

[nimble walrus]

We might find out in future who knows

[severe merlin]

I don't give comments on the story. Game will reveal story by playing it 🙂

[polar linden]

will alpha 1 continue story, or change it again?

[ionic bay]

Will we find out in another version, and will the story continue?

[meager walrus]

prealpha jus treleased

[restive oxide]

likely the neighbor did something to him

[ripe coral]

How I remember you said there wouldn't be cutscenes in the game, right? Just at the beginning, that's all?

[polar linden]

ate

[restive oxide]

ok bro
what

[polar linden]

why no cutscenes in pre-alpha?

[restive oxide]

i hope that's a typo 😭

[restive oxide]

no need

no time

[eager glade]

what if there are

IN A WAY

...

[polar linden]

except that, it's empty

[ripe coral]

AAA SPOILERS

[severe merlin]

From now on it will be detailing this core story and everything with it. What you see here IS the main story

[restive oxide]

small suggestion
you guys should enable the console for alpha builds
or add the option to enable like in source games

[neon ether]

Nikita, hello! How is your weather?

[untold grotto]

are festival going to be important as it was before, it seems like it has no role right now

[restive oxide]

cloudy with a Chance of meatballs

[neon ether]

Nice

Trust us with your weather

[keen hemlock]

nikita please...the optimization...i had to beat pre alpha on 6 fps it was NOT pleasant

[ionic bay]

Is there no continuation of the main story?

[terse thorn]

why is my game looking kinda blurry? the trees in the distance are weirly pixelated and high graphics settings arent fixing it

[restive oxide]

good optimization won't save a horrible PC

[keen hemlock]

still peak tho6

[nimble walrus]

Ngl it would be cool for console to have access to play Alpha builds. Specially to give feedback on Keyboard and mouse support, performance and other stuff

[meager walrus]

im preety sure thats just unreal being unreal

[keen hemlock]

well it runs hn1 and 2 just fine

[polar linden]

will statue assembling return?

[normal cairn]

what do you mean ?

[restive oxide]

ue5 is much heavier than ue4

[untold grotto]

and hn3 is very cpu bound

[keen hemlock]

yea but on low i wanna have at least have 25 fps

[severe merlin]

Yes, but not in a way you think.

[untold grotto]

he said the thing

[ionic bay]

And will this pre-alpha system remain forever?

[polar linden]

...

[nimble walrus]

Yeah because UE5 is buggiest version of unreal engines

[restive oxide]

mostly because it's new

[severe merlin]

Which system? Elaborate, please 🙂

[restive oxide]

also the old old versions of ue4 are much buggier

[polar linden]

also i didn't get it:

janusz can die in explosion
jacob can die in car crash
what's with the Doroti (Historian)?

[restive oxide]

4.12 for example
barely works

[meager walrus]

naaaah

[tawny yoke]

I have a question will there be some ui or like a visual way to tell your relationship with a character

or there shouldn't be any

[meager walrus]

ue4 old versions are mega buggy

[celest plank]

nikita my friend wanted to know this
will the future builds be separate from hello neighbor 3 just like the alphas of hello neighbor 1 and 2 were

[nimble walrus]

Both are let's be honest.

[meager walrus]

nah

[neon ether]

When you want to make the shooter - ue is good. But...if you want to do something another...It's pain...

[meager walrus]

ue5 isnt buggy

[normal cairn]

what do you mean ?

[meager walrus]

devs learned from theyre own mistakes man

[blissful zinc]

this is less so a story question and more so a question on the scale of things: if you can't answer it for spoilers, that's fine.

how big is golden apple company here? are they like, a small regional business that owns a few chains or basically amazon-tier huge internationally?

[polar linden]

cinematics like in proto3

[ionic bay]

This targeting system, for example, go to the supermarket and find the note.

[polar linden]

so what's with the Historian? what's her need?

[nimble walrus]

Rly hope that HN3 won't run like HN2 on Xbox Series S.

The FPS Lock and stuff there is just 💔

[polar linden]

pleeease

someone

waht's the Historian's deal

[ripe coral]

Can you say where you can see her? In pre alpha

[polar linden]

in museum ofc

[nimble walrus]

In Museum

[ionic bay]

Did you understand?

[ripe coral]

Thanks! I just didn't her in streams

[stoic monolith]

How do u go to the museum?

[ripe coral]

Thanks too!

[nimble walrus]

Check map

[nimble walrus]

Yw

[stoic monolith]

No if i go there the guest chases me

Ik where the museum is

[nimble walrus]

That's where new light feature comes

[polar linden]

by bridge or by path unlocked by jacob]

[stoic monolith]

Okayyyy

How do i start with that

[thorn flax]

whats doroti

[stoic monolith]

Theres side quests i need to do before i can access the nuseum?

[polar linden]

Historian name

[thorn flax]

wha

[severe merlin]

Probably not internationally, but definitely whole country-lever.

[nimble walrus]

Nah. You use flashlight. When you hear him close flash them with the new flashing system.

[blissful zinc]

i see

thank you nikita

[polar linden]

what is their specs? amusement park, stores what other?

[blissful zinc]

hn3 kinda feels like a commentary on ||huge companies ruining small towns||

[nimble walrus]

It says tip how to use flashlight correctly

[mental summit]

i like that theres actually a counter to the guest now

[dark bison]

what's the use for Jacob's item thrower?

[polar linden]

isaac more likely

[limpid pewter]

yes and the mayak

[polar linden]

iris idk

[thorn flax]

sorry for this question, but iris and isaac..they will return?

[cunning yacht]

hot (?) take: I think p2 map is better post versions. Map is so complex and it's impossible find something.

[little onyx]

i don't think fall damage should reset/kill you at all
it should just send you to hotel

or even better remove it

[near hawk]

Isaac will, for Iris it's unknown.

[meager walrus]

yep

[nimble walrus]

Iris's faith shall be guessed

[meager walrus]

they arent in this build but they will return next build probably

[mental summit]

i also like that the guest actually has a use to the player in being able to get rid of npcs that are getting in the way

[novel peak]

The npc... they know where you are all the time...

[stoic monolith]

Oooooh

[polar linden]

what other facilitis is owned by Golden Apple? except amusement parks and supermarkets

[stoic monolith]

Dammit everytime inwent there i had no flashlight

So the return if the old guest mechanics are back!

[untold grotto]

gas station, museum, tasty bakery

cinema

[nimble walrus]

Ngl I think Iris should be like protecting Isaac 24/7

[polar linden]

why muesum?

[near hawk]

Yeah i used him against Jacob.

[polar linden]

isnt it local thing?

[celest plank]

murderer

[near hawk]

||Golden apple does originate from Raven Brooks now btw||

[polar linden]

bakery is only Janusz's stuff

[mental summit]

i used him against jacob, doroti, and supermarket guy

[little onyx]

also the progression feels way too easy
vs prototype 3 which was too hard

[polar linden]

i don't think so

[tawny yoke]

why coned's house is even ga's property

[near hawk]

Yeah as If Jacob didn't try that on me 307 times

[mental summit]

if hes a murderer then im a serial killer

[normal cairn]

true

[severe merlin]

Have you found the camera from the advertising?

[near hawk]

||mayak is their first building and it's in Raven Brooks iirc||

[high brook]

yea i liked p2 more tbh

[near meadow]

Not really. It just gave you a goal and you figure it out yourself

[near meadow]

Figure out each small goal

This was better because it wasn’t annoying

[little onyx]

the goal really is "go to a room in this building" and you get a map of where every building is

so it leaves little exploration

[mental summit]

i havent beaten the game yet, does the neighbor ever appear or is he just a cutscene character like in p3

[tawny yoke]

he does

[near meadow]

Prototype 3 progression didn’t happen in cycles, you had to do alot of things all over again

[near hawk]

It was a very cool feature.

[near meadow]

Pre alpha however alot of progression is carried over

And feels like this

While keeping the reset mechanic

[little onyx]

i like the progression being in cycles but the goals themselves are too simple

[near meadow]

Its pre alpha after all

But this is hetter

Also theres more things to do

Than just those

[nimble walrus]

For example:
• If they are in darkness and guest is after them. Iris sacrifices her self whilst at same time wasting Guest's time so Isaac can escape to safety.

[little onyx]

well thats just my thoughts on it even if its pre alpha

[near meadow]

Which I wanna figure out myself

[thorn star]

i finished pre alpha but idk why coned in game at this moment, i thought all NPCS has a purpose

[mental summit]

yea

whats it do

[thorn star]

so this is just really weird for me

[near hawk]

You can flash it at the Guest.

[nimble walrus]

You can temporarily kill guest with it... if I am not mistaken.

[mental summit]

so its just flashlight power mode but with extra steps?

[thorn star]

any characters actually

[high brook]

bascially

[mental summit]

wait what

[high brook]

flashlight still works kinda though

[tawny yoke]

I think if there are ever goals like "search for something somewhere" in future version it could mention item's whereabouts instead of straight up telling the room the item is in

but honestly this also seems fair since most of these locations have like 50 rooms

[nimble walrus]

Yup you heard it

[mental summit]

like make him go away kill him or ragdoll kill him

[nimble walrus]

Idk

[polar linden]

yes! what's it's purpose? can i make a photo of guest and give it to vandal, if yes to which?

[nimble walrus]

I only know that it works on guest and others

[near hawk]

People have just said.

[pseudo spoke]

||Flashlight makes him freeze normally, run away slowly on power mode, camera makes him ragdoll for a short time||

[polar linden]

can he b e grabbed by us?

[nimble walrus]

How to bully Guest:
• Flashbang him with camera
• Use flashlight on him from distance.

[polar linden]

can we grab him after photo shoot?

[mental summit]

ty twin

[nimble walrus]

That would umm...

[mental summit]

does it break the game or smth

[nimble walrus]

Idk if you can actually

[mental summit]

ill give it a shot after i beat the game

[nimble walrus]

Would be funny if you grabbed and then put Guest in some sort of hole where he can't escape.

Then whole map is for you

[crystal hare]

btw is there Signed in the game? Didn't see him

[near hawk]

What If i put him next to the neighbor whom the Guest sees as a monster

[limpid pewter]

yes

[nimble walrus]

Yes he is

[near hawk]

He is

[crystal hare]

thx

[mental summit]

yea hes in the theatre

[untold grotto]

yes i hate him so much

he is in cinema

[near hawk]

I noticed him most of the vandals actually.
I didn't notice Coned at all.

Iris is removed for a build and the Npcs are already so isolated smh

[tawny yoke]

ted and guest were pursuing me near the mayak I think they don't really interact

[winter ingot]

which characters are not in the game?

[tawny yoke]

unless guest was really locked in trying to get me

[near hawk]

Iris and Isaac.

[little onyx]

also one thing i noticed is there is not much of a butterfly effect
jacob will crash, but saving him does not affect you in any way
same with the bakery and janusz blowing up, stopping it will not help you
the guest also doesn't have opportunities to catch anyone either, it feels like he's only a threat to you rather than the whole town
everyone feels tied to their houses instead of roaming freely, and will only leave to chase you

[limpid pewter]

really hope mayak doesnt get cut

[unkempt cipher]

Invited to pre alpha, take me to the kingggg!

[abstract notch]

FINALLY I CAN GO INTO MAYAK

THIS WAS MY DREAM!

MY LIFE IS NOW COMPLETE

[unkempt cipher]

It’s pre alpha what did you expect

[celest plank]

#hn3-pre-alpha-chat

for spoilers

[little onyx]

well i can still list my thoughts because there have been changes since prototype 3 that i am not fond of

[celest plank]

i think its because of the ending

i have no idea what the ending is

but i assume you cant save them

[limpid pewter]

pre alpha is pretty fire

[celest plank]

can you

[oblique parcel]

https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1494713679784972329

Why is everyone

[high brook]

i wonder when we will get hn3 website

[little onyx]

you can save them it just doesnt do anything

[oblique parcel]

Talking here?

[celest plank]

neither did it do anything in other builds

[little onyx]

in prototype 3 you needed to save them for the statue endings lol

[limpid cosmos]

It’s just prototype 3 but different graphics and saving

[celest plank]

well yeah theres only 1 ending which is a thing with pre alpha not hn3 in general

[pseudo spoke]

||Jacob fixes the lights to the Museum for you, Bakery remaining intact means you don't get the smoke all over town. Guest can catch Vandals at night since they roam around||

[blissful zinc]

Its the spoiler chat

but also like

[nimble walrus]

Can you still become friends with Jacob, Historian and others. I remember it being like a feature that was talked about in Devlog 2 or 3 if I am not mistaken.

[blissful zinc]

idk

[limpid pewter]

not really gameplay is completely different

[fallen meadow]

anyone knows what to do in neighbor house

[celest plank]

can we all agree the main issue was the lag

[high brook]

yea

[limpid cosmos]

Yes But I’m very disappointed that we didn’t see another Theodore Peterson ending

[little onyx]

does the smoke have any effects gameplay-wise or is it just visuals right now

[nimble walrus]

Oh. Then it's interesting how no one uses that feature to their advantage

[limpid cosmos]

I was waiting for pre alpha just for that

[pseudo spoke]

Visuals

[little onyx]

honestly its better letting it blow up

it looks cool as hell

[nimble walrus]

Ikr. I like how the fog, darkness with lights make it more eerie

[quartz anchor]

Where are cutscenes rototype 3 had them

[limpid pewter]

hopefully iris and issac and rc car will be in alpha 1

[near hawk]

I'd want to blow it up myself but i've no idea how to

[little onyx]

you just dont do anything

and it happens

[normal cairn]

where is Mr theodre petersons house

[thick ferry]

Iris and Isaac are still in the updates so most likely

[fallen meadow]

anyone knows wheres is sphere radar?

[nimble walrus]

The demolished one?

[fallen meadow]

wheather station

[near hawk]

I heard you can do it yourself

[little onyx]

where is coned

i didn't see him once

[celest plank]

its so hard to avoid reading this 😭😭

at least put a spoiler

[dawn linden]

I can't give ||the picture to the librarian|| :<<<

[abstract notch]

Fair point

[polar linden]

in past jacob's house ui guess

[celest plank]

ive actually seen coned

[abstract notch]

Where?

[little onyx]

my man is hidden

[modern fog]

||I have a life finally ||

[abstract notch]

Maybe he’s in the hood

[polar linden]

i was able to speedrun pre-alpha in 6 minutes

[celest plank]

||he was in some house which is next to the neighbor’s house i think||

||he was stuck tho he was like crouching or something||

mate guys any1 knows how to reduce lag

i wanna play normally tmr

[fierce viper]

Guys how do I beat the new pre alpha??!!?

I couldnt find the stuff in any of the places

the cluse or some shi

clues*

[deft summit]

close literally everything that isn't Steam, sometimes you'll have to use the task manager if they run in the background, and then click play

[little onyx]

i did notice the performance didnt improve much sadly

[celest plank]

i did that but didnt do the task manager part alr

although i dont think it will work much

[ionic bay]

Nikita, please, let's have a hand-holding animation

[restive oxide]

soon bro
be patient

[little onyx]

i thought you meant holding hands with the npcs

[deft summit]

it does because not everything that you close actually closes fully

[limpid pewter]

you are gonna have to wait for another 6 months buddy

[deft summit]

Discord for example does not close if you just click the X, neither do alot of browsers

[little onyx]

i want press E to open doors back as an option
i am not a fan of the doors in general

[celest plank]

btw i was on the lowest resolution the game could allow 😭😭😭

[deft summit]

you HAVE to fully close them yourself or else THEY WILL lag everything

[celest plank]

yeah thats true but i dont think it was the leading cause of my lag

still will try it tho

[deft summit]

any amount of reduction helsp

get it to a playable framerate

doesn't need to be super high in the hundreds just need to get it to something manageable

[celest plank]

it prolly aint even 30

[blissful river]

They also failed to communicate in any way for new players, that that’s how you open doors.

[celest plank]

heavily depends on where my camera points at 😭

[deft summit]

N64 games were 24 fps and still were considered playable
it's not good but it's better than getting a slideshow

so do literally anything you can do to get it somewhere playable

[restive oxide]

they should like they did with the doors on the houses without gameplay purposes

[near hawk]

||What an idiot||
||Can't tell If it's better that he gets stuck or If he'd be free and be annoying like everyone else||

[celest plank]

||he was screaming at me when i entered his house but couldnt do jackshihh||

[pulsar cradle]

Question are there any binoculars in the game

[near hawk]

No.

Not afaik.

[tawdry hearth]

Nope

[pulsar cradle]

Oh

[celest plank]

yes

at the very top of the supermarket

i found one

#hn3-pre-alpha-chat

[ionic bay]

What do you mean soon

[blissful river]

Or just put a simple UI graphic the first time you see a door that tells you how they work.

[polar linden]

it can suck items and then shoot them

[restive oxide]

true

[polar linden]

Nikita said those will arrive soon, but not in pre-alpha

guys

im gonna try building hn3 pre-alpha map in minecraft

[ionic bay]

So, the holding animation is coming

[celest plank]

theres this weird kind of blurry effect in hn3 of some sort? i really dont like it and it hasnt been around in other hn games

it would look cleaner without it

[ionic bay]

This is very difficult

[polar linden]

what will be main improvement for alpha 1? new houses filling? ||new characters?|| comeback of Isaac and RC car?

[terse thorn]

yea its a little blurry and foliage is pixelated, i hope they fix it

[polar linden]

but i'l try

[celest plank]

yes exactly that

i suppose its intentional

[ionic bay]

Did I understand correctly?

[celest plank]

its been like that in every hn3 footage and build

[high brook]

IS THAT THE NET SHOOTER? FROM RBO?

[celest plank]

i just dont like it and it probably causes lag too

[terse thorn]

why would it?

its just looks so weird

[celest plank]

idk its been around the entire time

[polar linden]

ig

[high brook]

its probably just some form of motion blur or anti aliasing

[terse thorn]

i know but still hope that its just because they are focusing on the gameplay more then graphics

[celest plank]

yeah especially once that effects stacks when theres a lot of foliage

[polar linden]

it can suck items and then shoot them

[terse thorn]

i have it disabled

[celest plank]

it becomes more visible and uglier

[high brook]

i know but its the model from rbo

[celest plank]

its not that i had those off

still been there

[polar linden]

ik

[limpid pewter]

yall its been a few hours what is better proto 3 or pre alpha

[near hawk]

Prototype 3 for sure

The ai feels much more interactive

Both for me and in between themselves.

[limpid pewter]

i depise jacob in pre alpha

[near hawk]

I do like the goal in pre alpha more, the playable mayak, and the news story also sounds interesteeng

[near hawk]

Same

#KillJacob

[limpid pewter]

i like pre alpha gameplay alot more

[daring forge]

Definitely pre alpha

[night vigil]

100% Pre Alpha, I had a lot more fun with it

[limpid pewter]

but i like proto 3s ai more

i would say its it a tie for me

but nothing will ever top my beloved prototype 2

[icy notch]

where is it ?

[tawdry hearth]

in the hotel

i don't remember what room

no

sorry

there isn't

[limpid pewter]

replaying proto 3 just realised guest reacts to flashlight

[tawdry hearth]

let me find it again

[jade night]

Hey man, what happened to your RBO remake from a while back?

[tawdry hearth]

}}

[icy notch]

Lost interest in hello neighbor for a bit

[tawdry hearth]

oh, miss click

[quartz anchor]

Proto 3
Pre alpha is absolutely beautifull
But the gameplay is flustrating.
Crowbars are so fragile. Come on this is steel.
Guest just kills you
No cutscenes
Ai is better but its extremely agrresive.

[jade night]

Does that mean you will return to remaking it?

[tawdry hearth]

FR FR

i like the raining atmosphere

[near hawk]

The main pre alpha issue to me is the npcs

[limpid pewter]

but i dont think we should spawn in main square

[quartz anchor]

They still clip throught walls
But i like the Vibe
Hope they won't turn IT into a cartoonish style like in hn1 and 2

[limpid pewter]

as it implys we live in ravenbrooks

[quartz anchor]

Fr why no cutscenes

[limpid pewter]

while in previous builds it always showed we were outsider

dont even need a cutscene just spawn at bustop

[quartz anchor]

We are an outsider in the lore

[sleek moat]

wheress the neighbors house

[quartz anchor]

Right next to the cable car

[icy notch]

wait so it is in the hotel?

[quartz anchor]

Its empty tho

Nothing there

[tawdry hearth]

nope

i'm searching for

again

i didn't pay attention where is it

[tawdry hearth]

in the gas station

i found it again

[sleek moat]

whjat

the neighbor house?

[icy notch]

ty

[sleek moat]

wheres the neighbors house

[stoic monolith]

I accidantly found it 😅

[sleek moat]

how

where

[stoic monolith]

Idk where

[brittle ferry]

I just played the pre-alpha and it was pretty good, I didn't even had any lag while playing

[stoic monolith]

But ngl i hate how small the inside is

Of the neighbours house

[sleek moat]

where by

[stoic monolith]

It's like extra smaller than the actual games

[tawdry hearth]

weirdo

[stoic monolith]

Bro is thinking lmao

[polar linden]

guys

what with the camera?

i tried to give photo of Guest to coned but nothing

what do i do?

[night vigil]

He is isn't he?

[sleek moat]

does anyone know where the neighbor is

[polar linden]

From where even this image arrived?

[polar linden]

In Mayak

[polar linden]

I thought at first it was a cutscene...

[sleek moat]

wheres mayak

[polar linden]

In the park

[restive oxide]

just an in-engine render

[polar linden]

Thx

Just hoped it was cutscene

[pulsar quarry]

ihonetly prefer prototype 3 for the type of gameplay

[oblique parcel]

I DO NOT

[pulsar quarry]

prototype 3 made u fell more "free"

in a good way

[winged jungle]

It was more confusing

P3

[oblique parcel]

It felt directionless

[winged jungle]

PA Had the objective thing

[pulsar quarry]

that's hello neighbor, the funny part is to understand what to do

[serene barn]

Do I ask questions abt the pre-alpha here?

[quartz canopy]

yuck no

pre alpha is miles better

[high brook]

id do anything to play prototype 2 again

[pulsar quarry]

if u die nothing happens, u have all the info u need saved and u just need to take like 3 items to finish

[winged jungle]

Ik

[pulsar quarry]

it doesn't make u feel really in danger

[blissful zinc]

You can you just need to get it off someone who still has it

[high brook]

no like i have it but i meant play it blind again

[blissful saddle]

anone wanna play secret neighbour and teac me how to play

teach

[high brook]

#secret-neighbor

[strong narwhal]

jacob and janusz somehow got tangled up into a ball.... how did this happen

[desert bear]

i cant find any crowbars theres like 3 in the entire map

im so lost

[civic patio]

what does the player model look like?

[sleek moat]

idk whats wrong with face

[civic patio]

aww

[strong narwhal]

Neighbor is so cute in this pre alpha 😭😭😭

I love him ❤️

[sleek moat]

yes bro

i took this epic screen shot

[strong narwhal]

[sleek moat]

nah its from my mod

[peak solar]

A lot of Hello Neighbor characters have last names

if Nikita is still here, there's one last name I'd like to know out of curiosity

Do you remember Quentin's last name?

[primal wedge]

his last name is Tarantino

[peak solar]

but yeah, I figured now is a good time since it's been almost 4/5 years without knowing it

(technically could also be 6)

I have no idea if he even remembers it still

unless he has it written down somewhere

[flat peak]

what I think is that they need to balance both system from P3 and PA

Cause like, Prototype 3 is way more open but way more confusing

But Pre alpha feels like a walking simulator, player has way more clear objectinve to do but in the end it's just collecting one note after another just to get to an boring ending point

[hidden skiff]

I feel like my main issue was NPC balance
I think they're too fast, rush trough anything, always know where you are when you've angered them, and can pass trough blocked passages.

[sand flare]

Yeah its the same with the statue parts the first game was fun because it wasn't getting a bunch of part to do something it was actually puzzles that weren't c9nfusing but challenging

[peak solar]

this new notes-based approach is great

[sand flare]

The trickiest part of hn3 for me is the clutter enviormet dont get me wrong it look fabulous beautiful but its very hard to find or see stuff

[sand flare]

Yeah that really good

[hidden skiff]

it really is

[hidden skiff]

To me the scenario is a bit too dynamic. I have a hunch that these non-flat scenarios make the navmesh for the npcs weird. Also the fact most passages and loops are always blocked by something, making it hard to escape npcs or move generally

[flat peak]

I don't really like it, it's literally collecting one note in one location that tells you to get ot other locations and in the end it's just going from Point A to point B to point C to point Z for some reason

it just feels so annoying

[peak solar]

I mean

I like retaining knowledge

it's one of the best things they've added to the gameplay loop

and even though the notes specifically might be a bit too specific

they could easily swap those out later

[flat peak]

idk

it was for me vcery boring

cause like

I am having a note

and I want to finally get smething

but NO

another note

after another

after another

after another and so on

[hidden skiff]

But if you take that away you kinda just get proto 3

[flat peak]

this is why I am saying they should balance it

combine them into one thing so it doesn't get confusing do something out of nothing and not making it linear walking simulator

[high brook]

i think its really good but the constant crashing is kinda ticking me off

[desert bear]

i dont like when an npc throws me and i die to the fall damage

its happened like 5 times for me in the museum

[hidden skiff]

Thing is you kind of don't really have to. I still want to believe hn3 is about the world itself and you can just mess around with it and ignore the main missions

kinda like gta. Hn3 feels like gta rn

I do hope they revamp it and add more endings, so more missions. Because if my memory doesn't fail me, everyone in this town should have a story or mean something, right? I could see it as an opportunity for more endings where you "tell another story"

but I guess the downside for you is more notes and more linear story told in a fetch quest

[desert bear]

i always liked prototype 3 i feel like people were too critical about it

i feel more confused this time around

[hidden skiff]

in what sense? The game tells you where to go and what to look for

[clear rapids]

bruh why when you die in the amusement park bit does it make you restart the WHOLE museum bit 😭

[peak solar]

I do think it would be neat if the keypad returned?

so that way if you retain knowledge about a door code or something

you can reset

go back

immediately enter it

[flat peak]

thing is, I want to feel a sense of reward by getting something I can actually USE to progress WITh a note besides it maybe, instead of it just being a note

I liked the thing with the lever

it was a cool hint and you're actoully getting SOMETHING

a reward

but most of the time is just note, note, note

[desert bear]

it just feels more barebones than p3 and its confusing when the progression is just telling me what to do, it feels like a scavenger hunt less than exploring the town

[flat peak]

which annoys me so much

[hidden skiff]

Well I guess I see your point, then again I think this was done so you're kinda forced to explore the main areas of the town. I do hope each location offers something to make the scavenger hunt worth it besides story progression

[desert bear]

and i also keep making progress but then i either get camped by the guest or die from fall damage because an npc chucked me so its kinda frustrating

i like how p3 never actually killed you, just punished you

[flat peak]

I like the way of being killed, as the punishment in P3 was poorly excecuted imo