hn3-discussion

[eager glade]

shes good mans

[hoary heath]

Real?

[untold grotto]

theres atleast 2 more company in raven brooks, actaully

[limpid pewter]

yes

[crude ravine]

I hope

[limpid pewter]

but it might change as hn3 is still early in devlopment

[crude ravine]

Yellow
Red
Greenish blue

[eager glade]

son

[hoary heath]

Red apple and Blue apple i understand

[keen hemlock]

tomorrow

[limpid pewter]

ALWAYS BET ON HN3

[hoary heath]

BTW so yacob enemy gold apple

Because he red apple

[untold grotto]

not really

[eager glade]

red apples are not tolerated in HN

[untold grotto]

the workshop was RC's at some point

but jacob took over

presumably after storm

[limpid pewter]

just realised old player in prototype 1 to 3 could kinda exist in the lore as they die in a storm which quite alot of people probably have obv a long time ago

[untold grotto]

cinema is also RC's property

[limpid pewter]

i lowk wanna visit an old hn3 raven brooks before the storms happened

[hoary heath]

Bro it kill you

[night vigil]

What the heck is RC ?

[untold grotto]

red company, lmao

[night vigil]

Red roof inn ? Crazy

[limpid pewter]

wonder who the mayor equivalent in the hn3 cast would be

STOP

[crude ravine]

Hacked acc alert

[limpid pewter]

<@&1162799252192379000>

[night vigil]

A hell lot of people are getting hacked by the same stupid people huh ?

[limpid pewter]

i think the historian

[untold grotto]

they also mentioned as orange in another copy of map

[crude ravine]

Thats same, just different color. It has a mean?

[untold grotto]

most likely no

[night vigil]

No no, now it’s the Orange company

[crude ravine]

Thats tiny build

[untold grotto]

well actually theres 2 copy of red and 1 copy of orange

[night vigil]

The hello lore has never been this easy to understand

[limpid pewter]

red coconut

[untold grotto]

RC is kind of rival to GA probably, while the other company (hotel's owners) being friendly to GA

[hoary heath]

Make sense

Tinybuild orange

[tawny yoke]

maybe they just used different colors to point out the most important locations

oh my god bruh

[crude ravine]

Wth

[limpid pewter]

<@&1162799252192379000>

[untold grotto]

well theres also another stuff that suggesting there is being different companies

i.e. the cinema poster doesn't fit GA's classic corporate design

or companies using the guest figure differently

[tawny yoke]

oh yeah that maybe

this map is kind of confusing

isn't it iris's home also colored in yellow

[untold grotto]

red company guys is using the guest figure's mostly same, just in miniature form

while GA changing it entirely

[limpid pewter]

i really like that guest drawing

[tawny yoke]

is there a really big difference between them

[untold grotto]

private equity or something

[tawny yoke]

I saw it more like ga adopting/taking rb's character/symbol

and advertising it more

[untold grotto]

yeah they do use them

[tawny yoke]

because this image kind of gives a vibe of rb before golden apple

[untold grotto]

both companies use the same figure and they are hollowing out the concept of a god

and then there is GAAP accident that people thought because of the guest or something

[tall sorrel]

Golden Apple Corp's twisting the symbol to serve their own purposes
meanwhile Red Company's tried to maintain the original meaning (but possibly was ran outta business? idk)

[oblique parcel]

In hn3 what do you think caused the Gaap incident?

[agile kelp]

What is red company

[tawny yoke]

is there more instances of RC's property

because I'm really noticing all this stuff just right now

[untold grotto]

44 years later, group of people sacrifice a child to forest dweller (who they thought its the guest) in the exact same way the accident happened

[agile kelp]

What is red company

[untold grotto]

the owners of cinema and what became jacobs workshop

rival of GA

[tall sorrel]

a theory Kryptqn has based off the colors on the RB Map in HN3 Prototype 3

[agile kelp]

Since when was there a GA rival or are you just guessing this

[tawny yoke]

is that about vandals sacrificing isaac or is it something else entirely

[untold grotto]

yep, isaac

[tall sorrel]

it can also be inferred from how different the cinema's poster is relative to Golden Apple-made posters

meanwhile both use a version of the Statue!Guest
Cinema in plays
GAC as a mascot

[untold grotto]

they may not be rival but theyre most definitely not close to GA as the other company

[agile kelp]

But where did this idea of another company come from I don’t get it

[eager glade]

colours of the map i think

[tawny yoke]

so isaac being sacrificed is like a parallel to gaap accident

what was even gaap accident I think I am not invested

is it the uh

rollercoaster thing

[granite junco]

Yes

Lucy yi

[untold grotto]

3 company

GA - owners of museum, amusement park, supermarket, some houses, bakery
Red/Orange Company - owners of cinema and what became jacobs workshop
Cyan-ish Company - owners of hotel and hiking road

[untold grotto]

GA and CC is most likely friendly companies

[tall sorrel]

wait Kryptqn, just realized something
Golden Apple Corporation's use the Guest is missing all of the symbols (no runes nor Eye/Ear sign things), Golden Apple Corp literally turned it into a bland mascot
they stripped the meaning from the Guest

[untold grotto]

since CC is kind of protecting GA properties after they left the area

[tall sorrel]

meanwhile Cinema keeps those details when they use the Guest

[tall sorrel]

map colors

[untold grotto]

yeah thats what i meant when i talked about design

[tall sorrel]

oh lol

(didn't realize)

[untold grotto]

RC guest is literally same with statue guest, just in puppet form

[tall sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/missing-it-gif-9464258

(this is me)

[tawny yoke]

is there more examples of rc using guest

[tall sorrel]

one respects the town's history
the other is just looking for profits

[agile kelp]

Ok sure

I’ll go with it

[untold grotto]

i dont think so we only have that one image

RC used guest way less than GA actually

[tawny yoke]

is this theatre bit from the photo actually in the building

[untold grotto]

yes

[tawny yoke]

like does the cinema have a stage there or something

[untold grotto]

gimme a sec

[tall sorrel]

yeah, and the curtains looks near identical to the photo

[tall sorrel]

just stretched out a bit

[tawny yoke]

I just always imagined it as rb residents just made all those kinds of festivals plays with their like god or something and then ga came and just like merchandised the character

this could be another company though

[tall sorrel]

yeah
that's still kind of what happened
just seems there's a bit more nuance.

[untold grotto]

RC is not that innocent at all actually

the guest previously depicted as a massive thing something always larger than normal people

but they used it in like puppet form

[tall sorrel]

meanwhile Golden Apple Corp doesn't realize what makes the symbol of the Guest special to the people of Raven Brooks at all

[untold grotto]

RC might be based in raven brooks

[tall sorrel]

(even if over the years it shrunk down a bit)

[untold grotto]

while GA being outsider

[untold grotto]

this image is most likely from 70's since its colored

and the previous one i posted is earlier

[tawny yoke]

this could be taken as underestimating the guest or something but I believe it also could be just an interpretation thing

I meant like maybe there were other puppets of people that were way smaller

[tall sorrel]

wait
maybe there's some symbolism here
The Guest and what it meant to the people of RB shrunk and overtime became less relevant until they had completely forgotten the og meaning (except for the historian who was alive to see the og festivals)

[tawny yoke]

but that could be taken as rendering the guest as something less powerful by pulling on its strings

[untold grotto]

this puppet thing may be like some comedy show

[eager glade]

what about cyan company

[tall sorrel]

until it grew back into something completely different to how it originally was

[untold grotto]

because this is a talking puppet show, whatever its called idk

[eager glade]

is it in rave broks or outsider

[tall sorrel]

a company that's likely on friendly terms with Golden Apple Corp
Business partners

probably native to RB

[untold grotto]

Ventriloquism

[untold grotto]

they didnt use the guest so far

[tall sorrel]

the people who accepted the change and the people who tried to fight it

[eager glade]

i seee

[tawny yoke]

whaqt is this unnamed building on the right hten

[tall sorrel]

(based off the Hotel staff protecting the Golden Apple owned places)

[untold grotto]

the museum iirc

[tawny yoke]

I don't quite remmebr

[tall sorrel]

no that's to the left of it

[tawny yoke]

no the museum is right there

[untold grotto]

ohh

[tall sorrel]

some homes they own(ed) under private equity or whatever I think

[untold grotto]

yeah

i dont remember since its been a while i played it

[tall sorrel]

that's where Jacob's house is in the present day I think

[untold grotto]

they shut down tasty bakery for a reason

[untold grotto]

it probably didn't meet Golden Apple Healthy standards

since its janusz, to earn more he could use substandard stuff

[tawny yoke]

I would imagine they probably bought it from Janusz, offering him a spot in the market and he in need of money accepted the offer

[tall sorrel]

fits with the stereotype

[untold grotto]

yeah

[tall sorrel]

Fits with the stereotype!

[untold grotto]

well they bought it, but they later shut it down

[tawny yoke]

does ga even care about that

[untold grotto]

hence why janusz is in supermarket

[tawny yoke]

I thought they were like

not a great company

[untold grotto]

idk, there is whole alt branch of them named Golden Apple Healthy

[tawny yoke]

yeah I imagine for their own plans maybe

[tawny yoke]

that rollercoaster was surely not healthy

[tawny yoke]

I'd imagine it's like satirical way of "caring"

[untold grotto]

i mean thats probably 2 different stuff, like GA Healthy is more like company for food or something

[tawny yoke]

oh that's possible yeah

I thought it was more like a branch that answers for health standards

I mean I think judging by how Janusz looks, working at the supermarket wasn't the best choice ever

[untold grotto]

this was the most profitable option though

which is what janusz cares about

[tawny yoke]

yeahh

[tall sorrel]

yeah
he doesn't care that he was more happy with the Tasty Bakery
he knows he's making more money off the Supermarket then he could with the Bakery

[untold grotto]

janusz and historian is GA employees and they are the only ones who is old enough to see the festival days of the town

well in case of the historian, she is most likely has connection with GA

she just works in their property

which is museum

but ideologically they are opposed to each other

[tawny yoke]

honestly I am surprised she's supposedly fine with ga advertising their saviour/god like that

[untold grotto]

she probably was not

[tall sorrel]

probably didn't have much choice if she wanted to keep the Museum running

[untold grotto]

she is that type of grandmas that always talks about how good was past

hence why she is called historian by locals

but she is just museum employee

[tall sorrel]

best she could do is try to teach the new generations about the past and history of the symbol

(which is probably why she works at and seemingly maintains the Museum)

[untold grotto]

she was the one who revived festival with iris

but "with iris" part is now scrapped

iris was meant to be local problem solver

and she came up with an solution to these storms

[tall sorrel]

so now she's the sole reason the festival is potentially revived for HN3 Times

[untold grotto]

yeah

probably the whole forest dweller manipulating vandals to sacrifacing isaac is also scrapped

isaac is less important and not in pre alpha

i wonder if they will keep that God-Antichrist-Devil triangle

[tawny yoke]

so is forest dweller is like a faker right

[untold grotto]

or the story changed that much

[tawny yoke]

man I am really far behind 😭

[untold grotto]

yeah an Antichrist metaphor

[tawny yoke]

oh man

so is it like

an entity or just a person

[untold grotto]

a person

[tall sorrel]

Guest is not supernatural

[untold grotto]

presumably aaron for me

[tawny yoke]

yeah I know

does entity counts being a supernatural

lowkey wondering

[tall sorrel]

I'd assume so but idk

[untold grotto]

and Jacob is more active in story i think

[tawny yoke]

damn this is really changes the point of things

[untold grotto]

i always headcanonned that he made these security systems

[tawny yoke]

because for some time I really thought its like

[untold grotto]

because he is confirmed to be tech guy

[tawny yoke]

theres something lurking in the forest and people from rb made it their god or something

[untold grotto]

i dont know how they pull this off but

there is also another Guest npc in the files

i dont think the "god" guest is something real

but like

what else can it be

[hoary heath]

Nikita watch you theory bro

[tawny yoke]

I mean like

if guest is not supernatural

and supernatural is something that cant be explained by science

could a 8 feet tall crow like creature be considered a supernatural

[untold grotto]

it is metaphorical

[tall sorrel]

Nikita prefers grounded storytelling

[untold grotto]

and both the guests are not anything like bird or crow

[tall sorrel]

thus always try to find a grounded way to explain something before jumping to non-realistic things (except the skin color stuff that's a stylistic choice)

[untold grotto]

yeah if we are going to look his past stories about the guest

HG era - its literally the neighbor in a costume
hn2 alphas era - a symbolism for storm

[tall sorrel]

Nikita has said this before

also look at HN1
everything in HN1 has a grounded explanation
same for HNHS

[untold grotto]

yeah

[tawny yoke]

oh okay I get it

so no matter what is roaming in the forest it's 100% a person

[untold grotto]

but in first look, especially hn1, you would definitely tell there is supernatural stuff

[tall sorrel]

the only time something non-grounded existed in Nikita's stories for HN was back in the HN1 Alpha days
and even then that story was quickly changed by the time of Alpha 2's development

[untold grotto]

which is a metaphor

its mostly same with hn3 too

the statue protecting the town from storm is also has a submeaning

[pulsar cradle]

NIKITA WHEN IS THE RELEASE 🥲🥲

[untold grotto]

but you know we first need to understand the literal meaning and then we will go look for the metaphors

[limpid pewter]

hopefully tommorow

[pulsar cradle]

SORRY IF IM INPATIENT

[pulsar cradle]

Hopefully

[mighty orchid]

Imagine HN3 ending is the exact same as first games ending with the neighbor in the house in the void but this time it’s hn3 neighbor.
Kryptqn please do no correlation thing to me since this one is not related to what you guys are talking about

[tawny yoke]

wouldn't the image of real guest origin from something?

so maybe another guest is like the origin

[pulsar cradle]

BRO NIKITA IS LIKE WATCHING US LIKE THIS WITH THESE MESSAGES

[untold grotto]

well, i use "no correlation" when someone uses something unrelated to what they said as a reason, not because its off topic

[mighty orchid]

Yea but I couldn’t think of anything else

[untold grotto]

i have no idea about NPCGuest tbh

maybe thats just old FD stuff (prototype 1/2 ones)

but that was named Person

or SimpleCharacter

[mighty orchid]

I wonder who else watches the messages but just doesn’t put anything

[tawny yoke]

oh okay

[untold grotto]

well speaking of the guest origin

[tawny yoke]

maybe real guest origins are similar to like egyptian gods

[untold grotto]

the statue head had a different design at some point (in techinal wise)

eye, tongue and ear

[spiral atlas]

Someone should compile all the evidence for the two guests theory thing because I've seen all the evidence all over the place and it seems like a neat theory but it's hard to believe because I can't find one place with all the evidence

[mighty orchid]

What’s the other one?

[tawny yoke]

I think the head being split in 2 could be improtnat

the current head*

[grim lark]

When Nikita refers to a Guest and a “Guest”, i feel like its enough for the implications

[untold grotto]

i mean in very short aint its like
one is "protecting the town"
one is killing people

[untold grotto]

tbf thats maybe because the gameplay reasons

[mellow garden]

this one is from prototype 2||(but is even in prototype 3)||

[untold grotto]

ikr, im just saying that

[mellow garden]

ok

[untold grotto]

the statue head (which was always meant to be the guest/god's head) had a different design at some point

[exotic pewter]

whats that

[tawny yoke]

thats why I think the head split could be significant

[mighty orchid]

The one with the tongue?

[tawny yoke]

and not just a feature to visualize the guest statue for the vandals

[untold grotto]

in short
God - The Guest
Antichrist - Forest Dweller
Devil - The Neighbor
(metaphorically)

for the long answer i have to find some discussions going all over server

[tawny yoke]

oh I didn't see that

[mighty orchid]

Sorry I think I just misread something or not understanding a previous message

[exotic pewter]

wait, ok the ppl celebrate guest festival, so technically hes like a God to them, but then how is the forest dweller or "The Guest" the Antichrist and how is the neighbor the devil again

[untold grotto]

speaking of vandal statue, there is something with forest dweller's idle position and attack position but i have to check up stuff to talk about it

[chilly sundial]

Hey, I have a question: where did you get that movie poster

[cinder halo]

Can someone pls tell me when pre alpha comes outĺ

[exotic pewter]

I dont really like the name forest dweller, its always been the guest

[tawny yoke]

forest dweller is not the guest

[limpid pewter]

hopefully tommorow

[tawny yoke]

its someone pretending to be the guest or something like that I think

[untold grotto]

antichrist is someone who says they are god and leads people to bad stuff

lets see forest dweller
forest dweller is someone whos acting like the god who is The Guest, manipulating people to do bad stuff (such as sacrifacing children)

[night vigil]

Nobody really knows. Hopefully sometime next week

[tall sorrel]

raw texture files!

[exotic pewter]

if you tell me that thing with that conical head and smiley face is the guest, Imma lose it

[tawny yoke]

yeaah....

[limpid pewter]

you might wanna sit down for this

[tawny yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[chilly sundial]

If I'm right, the resident is not the guest.

[untold grotto]

for the neighbor being "the devil" thing,
in prototype 3 the neighbor destroys the statue, he goes against the god, blocking the sun he caused to rise

[untold grotto]

the keyart is telling it

[mighty orchid]

Oh so the other guest or “guest” is Forrest dweller? Is that what was brought up before?

[untold grotto]

the neighbor is blocking the sun that guest caused to rise

[tall sorrel]

well yes and no
there's a theory that there's gonna be two Guest AIs in HN3

[night vigil]

Gotta love the Faust Theory. Actually peak

[untold grotto]

the guest - the "god", the statue one

the "guest" - forest dweller

[limpid pewter]

i love mural guests design

[untold grotto]

and theres another NPCGuest in files

[chilly sundial]

interesting

[untold grotto]

but the NPCGuest might be false alarm too

[exotic pewter]

tell me about it

[tawny yoke]

it could be a red herring thats true

just to cause confusion maybe

[untold grotto]

there is an another npc folder named Guest in hn3 files

but we dont have access to it

we just know the folder exists

and different from ForestDweller

[tawny yoke]

is it in p3 files?

[untold grotto]

yes

[exotic pewter]

are there any good or official renders of HN3 Guest

[tawny yoke]

god damn

is it like locked behind something orr

[tawny yoke]

which one

[exotic pewter]

all of them

[untold grotto]

its set to NeverCook
saying engine do not package it while packaging the build

[tawny yoke]

and the method can't be reversed?

[untold grotto]

well
theres 2 position of Forest Dweller

idle - hes standing on two feet, his “beak” points upward
attack - when hes on all fours his “beak” points forward

[untold grotto]

i dont think so

[untold grotto]

his idle position looks exactly like the real guest's position

[tawny yoke]

I think it's like the personator wanted to resemble the real guest but this image twists into the other guest as he runs

I mean like thats how the image of the other guests appears

[untold grotto]

vandals statue is based off when he was in attack form

and in the DarkFestival ending (the ending that vandals sacriface isaac) he is still on idle

and not in attack

[tawny yoke]

I think they could believe thats how the guest is actually supposed to look like

oh right

[untold grotto]

yeah FD manipulated them somehow

he showed them "false miracles"

[tawny yoke]

maybe he left them clues or anything

I doubt he straight up interacted with them

also I feel like him taking off his beak in the ending is really important

[untold grotto]

vandals who are just depressed teenagers believed him

while the other citizens did not

there is also some engine detail i want to tell

[untold grotto]

vandals see the forest dweller as friend
citizens do see FD as enemy
and FD sees everyone as enemy

[tawny yoke]

it could be also he specifically targetted the ones who would be up to cause chaos and also wouldn't (probably) know that real guest would not need a sacrifice

so it was easier to manipulate them

[tawny yoke]

what if FD never tried to manipulate vandals

and it was just them believing stuff

[untold grotto]

well might be

[tawny yoke]

like how teenagers try to summon the devil or something

[untold grotto]

but the thing is

in DarkFestival, FD is waiting for isaac in the ritual area

which is not in forest

like they have a communication somehow

[tawny yoke]

yeah I also thought about that

like it seems planned out

perhaps it could be that a statue of him got him interested

[untold grotto]

and isaac is not the first one

maybe its vandals first job but

he is not the first victim

[tawny yoke]

so he went to investigate

[untold grotto]

there is also another isaac btw

which is also an possible FD victim

[tawny yoke]

yeahh the old one from what I remember

[untold grotto]

yeah

[brave thunder]

they prob just changed the design

[tawny yoke]

man I really hope they won't end up changing major lore just because fans could have guessed it 😭

[untold grotto]

not really

pre alpha still uses that poster

that may be the case if only prototype 3 had the poster

but even after prototype 3

theyre still using it

[brave thunder]

gotta ask Nikita abt this next time

[untold grotto]

and there is already existing isaac poster

[tawny yoke]

I think if it was really a design change they would replace the poster asap

not to cause confusion

[untold grotto]

the other poster seems older too

[tawny yoke]

do you think the first one was not a kidnapping for sure

[untold grotto]

its Forest Dweller doing it but cant tell what exactly it is

[tawny yoke]

I meant like it surely wasn't someone else kidnapping him for guest

[untold grotto]

maybe the isaacs has some connection other than having same name

and thats why vandals selected isaac as a victim

[tawny yoke]

I mean the hat is also there

isnt it the same one

[untold grotto]

similar but no same

[tawny yoke]

oh

still couldn't be a coincidence I think

[untold grotto]

poster isaac one is more like a beanie

[tawny yoke]

maybe they cut current isaac for now just to get more into the other one

[brave thunder]

they're probably just too lazy to replace the models since the new mesh has different origin(i think?)

[untold grotto]

last year me and some people had Isaac Sr. and Isaac Jr. theory

[crude ravine]

Changing a texture is so simple

[brave thunder]

the old one is a separated model, uv is different

[tawny yoke]

oh yeah that's way different

[untold grotto]

which probably debunked via iris's family photos

[tawny yoke]

oh yeah I remember

[crude ravine]

Still simple

[tawny yoke]

but yeah the photos kinda did the thing

[untold grotto]

i mean they also have different purposes in game, the kid isaacs poster disappeares when you find npc isaac

[restive oxide]

most likely they just used it since they have it

[untold grotto]

but the other one is not

and the kid isaacs poster is only in the festival area

[tawny yoke]

it could be his grandfather maybe

[untold grotto]

but the other poster is all around the town

[tawny yoke]

but idk if they would keep the poster for so long

[untold grotto]

most likely not

its more recent actually

[civic totem]

Placeholder

[brave thunder]

not that simple compared to changing the texture, and they're probably focusing on something else other than remaking uv of an outdated model

[tawny yoke]

it can't be a placeholder

tying the poster to a different texture is like

5 lines of code I suppose

[untold grotto]

still in pre alpha, btw. and in places that p3 hadnt

[restive oxide]

you don't
code the picture to a different image
what

you just change the material

[crude ravine]

There is old isaac posters especially in museum

[high brook]

i hope we get to see the original image of this without the dirt

[jade night]

They have the exact same ears and eyebrows, and the face shape is similar too. I think Nikita just aged Isaac down later in development

[tawny yoke]

I meant like changing the source direction of a material

idk how it is in ue5

[untold grotto]

well eitherway, even if its not different isaac's, isaac is still not the first victim of FD

[brave thunder]

not even that much, but the old one has different uv and putting new texture on it will not look fine
swapping the model works but due to they having different origin the location will be bad

[restive oxide]

you can just change the texture used

but like Harvey said

different UVs

[crude ravine]

Ahhh bro

[tall sorrel]

Isaac Sr. and Isaac Jr.

[tawny yoke]

wouldn't it be easy just to open the uv used for the posters and just change it?

[brave thunder]

they probably don't feel like remaking it for an outdated mesh

[restive oxide]

no
you would have to change them in blender

and reimport

[restive oxide]

you could technically modify them with blueprints
but that's unnecessary

[tawny yoke]

so you can't just take a texture and just modify it

without exporting another uv

[brave thunder]

yea

[eager glade]

thats so rare coming from you

[tall sorrel]

true

[untold grotto]

well going back to topic, even if isaac's are same, its still not the first victim of FD

[ebon path]

The build of this character, who appeared in one of the endings of the third prototype, is very similar to the build of the new main character, so was this character used as a template?

[crude ravine]

Theyre iris lol

[brave thunder]

off topic but that's my baseproject?

[ebon path]

no

wait

[untold grotto]

yes

[brave thunder]

they're modified off iris i think, they're using the iris textures

[ebon path]

their physiques are different, and I'll prove it to you

just wait

[untold grotto]

well vandals was probably not vandals before FD

[brave thunder]

i was talking about the textures?

[tawny yoke]

probably yeah

[untold grotto]

but they somehow managed to organize themselves

coned based his look after Forest Dweller who he thought is The Guest

and he is the leader

some kind of prophet

and opposite of the historian

[tawny yoke]

oh yeah

[restive oxide]

this is just modified iris

[tawny yoke]

like they praise this other twisted version of guest

[untold grotto]

yeah

[ebon path]

look

[brave thunder]

90% same

[untold grotto]

aint thats edited model of old iris or something

[restive oxide]

yeah
they just modified iris

[brave thunder]

also i recolored the texture in the project so color pattern is different

[tawny yoke]

but I think if coned is the leader then it could have been him who got the other 2 into this sacrifice stuff

[untold grotto]

yeah

[tawny yoke]

like coned projected his believes into others or something

[dense fractal]

is hello neighbor

[brave thunder]

speaking of that,signed has become coward in p3 unlike the previous prototypes, he's like old Jacob but on vandal side

[untold grotto]

signed is a guy who is trapped in his own thoughts

[wicked moth]

Nikita, in Pre Alpha, have the player's interactions with the ai changed? Because that was probably one of the bad parts about p3.

[untold grotto]

soo maybe thats why he is more coward

[tawny yoke]

probably done to present their character better

I think FD could kill people with his beak since it is kinda metal

[untold grotto]

yeah

[brave thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436024529540485326/1466987521681526814/caption.gif

[tawny yoke]

I wonder how it will be in pre alpha

is he gonna drag the player a little bit and then just maul us

[untold grotto]

gotta go now

see ya

[brave thunder]

he just drags you to his house and eat you there

[tawny yoke]

cya buddy thank you for the talk

[steel berry]

what if hn3 got a multiplayer update

[tawny yoke]

oh that makes sense

so there's like a certain amount of time to escape

[crude ravine]

Thats megam's job

[crude ravine]

He ate them...

[brave thunder]

kes is the guy doing the code, megaM is just advertising the mod

[crude ravine]

I dont wanna say details

[lavish ravine]

Im still asking me Where is thst map or test map

[high brook]

Pre alpha tomorrow?

Maybe

[limpid pewter]

ALWAYS BET ON HN3

[reef widget]

Yo guys havent been active here for like 2 months any updates

[limpid pewter]

check teasers

you have missed alot

but no new build

[polar linden]

Nikita, when sign-up for pre-alpha will start?

[reef widget]

They still adding new characters the third prototype barely ran well the programmers better cook

[pulsar cradle]

I’m calling it
Hn3 pre alpha will release tomorrow, Monday, from 12-15 EET

[tawny yoke]

2 characters were cut from upcoming build

[limpid pewter]

ALWAYS BET ON TOMMOROW

[pulsar cradle]

poor Nikita

[restive oxide]

he can't tell you that

/won't

[crude ravine]

When pre alpha release

[pulsar cradle]

Probably Towmrow

NIKITA CAN U SAY HI JAX

[reef widget]

Is there going to be a devlog with the pre alpha or since the alphas are coming up there wont be anymore

[pulsar cradle]

There will be a devlog

[limpid pewter]

there will be

devlog 4 to be exact

[pulsar cradle]

Also he finished with the game soo

[pulsar cradle]

Or devlog 3.5

Who knows

[restive oxide]

no

[pulsar cradle]

aww man 🥲

But I don’t think the game will release Towmrow cause Nikita didn’t say anything about it

But who knows

[tawny yoke]

I doubt he would tell anything about release date again after what happened last time

[restive oxide]

why would he say anything about it

[pulsar cradle]

What happened last time?

[restive oxide]

he said everything was finished
they just have to find someone to release everything

[restive oxide]

hn2

[tawny yoke]

people kept complaining about it not releasing 2 weeks ago

[pulsar cradle]

Where did the people hear about the game releasing Towmrow

[pulsar cradle]

Ohh ok

[tawny yoke]

someone even said that tinybuild should be sued I think 😭

[restive oxide]

nowhere
they just guessing

i said it cause the last build released at the same time
and i think the build before that too

[pulsar cradle]

Nice art btw and I accidentally putted ur art in the teaser cause i thought it was an actual art from Nikita

[restive oxide]

lmao

thx

[crude ravine]

Tb schedule

[ebon path]

last time, a devlog with a prototype was released around this time, Maybe there's some news coming out right now?

[reef widget]

This gives me nostalgia holy

Prototype 2/3 vibes

Only the real ones remember nokita

[bronze steppe]

yea

[crude ravine]

P2 except all devlogs and prototypes released same time

Pre alpha with dev4 will be too

[reef widget]

Yeah yungman

No invite links

No exceptions

[broken galleon]

5 months ago brother

[reef widget]

Still though

We had a real famine during that time

Only the real ones were still in the server while also being active

[crude ravine]

There is 3 nokias in my home

[reef widget]

About the same here

[pulsar cradle]

POOR NIKITA

[lunar trail]

who trapped him in there

[unborn fox]

My phone 🥰

[signal geyser]

Do you have a phone Nikita?

[pulsar cradle]

I don’t think he’s going to release it Towmrow cause the art isn’t all done

[untold grotto]

he did not say it will be done

he just said that he will keep posting it until release

[signal geyser]

Thanks ʝαx 🐰. How come we didn't think of that right away!

[pulsar cradle]

wait nooo I wanted it to be tomorrow

[pulsar cradle]

Alright

[low gate]

Still could be

[pulsar cradle]

Mabye

[pulsar cradle]

Are u a mod?

[low gate]

Nup

[pulsar cradle]

Is that a no ? 🥲

[low gate]

uh huh

[pulsar cradle]

Oh I thought that the basement key badge is for mods

How do I get that badge

[limpid pewter]

you cant

[pulsar cradle]

Op

[limpid pewter]

i am pretty sure only og people have it

but idk

[sand flare]

i hope even if pre alpha doesn't release tmmr that nikita will share something mabye the trailer

[limpid pewter]

yes

[pulsar cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[sand flare]

?

[pulsar cradle]

It’s devlog

[sand flare]

but there will be a trailer too like p3 remmember

[pulsar cradle]

Oh yea

[narrow gust]

It's a Sunday so that means there will be nothing

[crude ravine]

Everything is done

They could share a trailer past 2 weeks

[limpid pewter]

tommorow fellas 🔥

[lavish ravine]

This is a 1% message of nikita

[bronze steppe]

nah surely it wont they only made a trailer to show the new map

[sand flare]

true but they did add new areas so there is a chance but mabye not

[untold grotto]

for prototype 3 it was different

the game needed a trailer and they made it

since the first 2 build was not even meant to be public

it was internal builds

[bronze phoenix]

also just to tell u guys the reason why most of u is struggling with fps is the cpu

i struggle alot

and i did some digging

and saw the cpu working overtime and the gpu is not using half of its power

the game starts being gpu Heavy when increased to epic settings

i know alot of u dident ask for this

but i just wanted to say this 🙂

[polar linden]

Nikita, will in hn3 be cameras and ability to see through them or smth?

[bronze phoenix]

i think so

another example of the cpu working overtime

[polar linden]

cuz i miss RC car

[oblique parcel]

You should probably turn off ping

[polar linden]

?

[oblique parcel]

Since yk he gets notified everytime you reply

[polar linden]

that's the whole point, so he'll notice

but yea i shoudnt do that prob

[ebon path]

will the hn 3 pre alpha be released today?

[bronze steppe]

nop

we will see next week

[ebon path]

aahh )_=

[bronze phoenix]

guys

i know u all love pre alpha

[pulsar cradle]

Mabye Towmrow

[bronze phoenix]

but maybe give it a 2 weeks

[pulsar cradle]

There done with everything

[bronze phoenix]

yeah but they want to build as much hype

[pulsar cradle]

They just need someone to upload it

[bronze phoenix]

not true

they are waiting for tiny build to give the green light

which means

[pulsar cradle]

Nope

[pulsar cradle]

WAITT HOW ARE U PLAYING HELLO NEIGHBOR 3

I THOUGHT IT CLOSED

[bronze phoenix]

i ran the exe

[pulsar cradle]

Ohh

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-so-embarrassed-im-embarrassed-don't-look-at-me-look-away-gif-11536534078432037159

[bronze phoenix]

go into Browse local files

then u just press

Helloneighbor3.exe

and it opens

[pulsar cradle]

Wait but I don’t have it installed

[bronze phoenix]

well

thats the end

because u cannot reinstall the game

[bronze phoenix]

also nice jax pfp

[pulsar cradle]

Well internet achive it is

[pulsar cradle]

Thank you!

[bronze phoenix]

dont

some of them contain malware

its too risky

but

someone gave me proto 1 2 and 3

but i dont remember the link

also if i send it i will get banned
lol

[polar linden]

neighbors

hello

wth hn3 is even hello neighbor

if he s not htere yet

and he is don't even our neighbor

and if it's not about teo

[bronze phoenix]

like yoda you speak

[polar linden]

than it must be hello neighbors

or hello neigbor 9 cuz ther's 9 neighbor or smth

[polar linden]

you speak yoda too like

[crude ravine]

Hn4 when

[bronze phoenix]

2040

[polar linden]

kile doya yuo pseak

[bronze phoenix]

tbh unless tinybuild is greedy hn4 wont happen

[polar linden]

lehho gheinbors 8

[crude ravine]

Yes, also hn3 is the last game in timeline

[bronze phoenix]

thank god

well

[bronze phoenix]

yo i got a question

if u dont mind answering it

[crude ravine]

Yes?

[bronze phoenix]

u know how Hn1 pre alpha is the first Sole steam release

of the series of Hn1

and hn2 did the same?

will Playtest be replaced with hello neighbor 3 pre alpha?

[crude ravine]

Hn1 was playtest also

All alphas betas etc become downloadble game after full game release

Just hn2 was not playtest as i remember

So, hn3 pre alpha will be playtest too

[bronze phoenix]

it was

beta of hn2

was named in steam for some reason

"hello neighbor 2 Playtest"

lol

[crude ravine]

Yes u can acces hn2 beta if u donwload hn2's steam version

[celest plank]

prototip 4

[tawny yoke]

what happened to that guy

[untold grotto]

banned

[polar linden]

to who

[tawny yoke]

prototip guy

[polar linden]

oh

[finite carbon]

Gud bye prototips and hello per-alphi

[crystal hare]

imagine if it comes out tomorrow or on tuesday

[sand flare]

IMAGINEEE

Dragons...

first things first..

I'ma say all the words inside my head
I'm fired up and tired of the way that things have been, oh-ooh
The way that things have been, oh-ooh

lol

[wild girder]

This can apply to literally every day until it comes out.

I find it funny how people say stuff like that as if it's not plausible.

[gusty adder]

When will HN season 3 come out

[grim lark]

Soon. The season is done

[trim trout]

Ye

[lavish ravine]

Tomorrow new week

New hope

And new Pre alpha

[neon ledge]

Is there any way to get a better look at what the Guest looks like when running like maybe a gif

Idk if this is true and idk what they mean by windmill rotation and the hand and feet thing

[high brook]

its not

[neon ledge]

We were originally arguing that the Guest shouldn’t be able to go that fast since running on all fours is slower

[neon ledge]

How come

[cinder halo]

thats because the guest is a supernatural and can go fast even when running on all fours

[neon ledge]

No he is sci fi

And even if he was what would change the Guest in a supernatural way to make him do that

[wild girder]

NGL. I don't think HN3 is really trying to tie into realism. The characters designs themselves aren't realistic, the characters ragdoll when unconscious so the Guest being that fast on all fours doesn't really matter, it just makes it more scary and panicking when he's coming after you.

[neon ledge]

The character designs not being realistic is because it’s an artstyle choice

[wild girder]

The Guest having that speed on all fours could also be attributed to that.

Besides. I'm pretty sure Nikita has said, he is a guy in a suit. (I might be wrong though)

[neon ledge]

I don’t think that’s how artstyle works

But also yeah the Guest is just a guy in a suit

[wild girder]

By any chance can you give any sort of example of how the game might look (if you have plans for the new foliage models) will it make the game look closer to the concept art or old steam images or will it simply just be an updated looking version of the look of Prototype 3?

[blissful river]

I’m sure the foliage will look much better because the ones currently being used are fab assets.

[high brook]

werent these same assets also used in TADC

at one point

[blissful river]

Yeah lol

The haunted house exterior shot had the same trees.

Or some of them.

I hope we see some variety in trees like they did in RBO with the birch ones.

[high brook]

im trying to find the image

but i cant

not of the tadc the page on fab

[wild girder]

What's a "fab asset"?

[blissful river]

Fab is Unreal engines asset store, where they purchased most of these tree meshes.

[wild girder]

Oh

Personally. Seeing as how the general opinion seems kinda split between what looks better out of the current look of the game and the look of the old steam images, I hope they blend both of them together. (If that's even possible)

[wild girder]

Tbh. These paintovers kinda look like that.

[dark ingot]

i hope they actually commit to these paintovers

i hope pre alpha resembles them more

[delicate solstice]

does anyone know how to acces the playtest ?

[lavish ravine]

Guys you think the pre alpha gonna be avaible the next week ? Yes or no

[bronze phoenix]

idk

[woven lodge]

I wish they used more tree types.

[mental creek]

whats RC's means?

nevermind, i saw it alredy

[blissful river]

Same

The game HAD birch trees

And they removed them

[stone elk]

The week of probably pre alpha begins again

https://tenor.com/view/this-time-its-for-reals-archangel-michael-south-park-best-friends-forever-s9e4-gif-22317031

[limpid pewter]

Hopefully today is the day

[limpid pewter]

Always bet on hn3

[earnest cape]

The hope never dies down.

[bronze steppe]

alr chat lets see what we have today

[limpid pewter]

Devlog 4 and pre alpha

Hopefully

[late veldt]

its not gonna be this month

[stone elk]

its gonna be this week

[late veldt]

nikita hasnt said that

the fact its been this long since the initial estimate means something crucial with the pre alpha probably needs to be fixed

it could be optimization a core gameplay mechanic the ais not functioning properly etc

fixing that stuff takes a while

[stone elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-playtest-hello-neighbor-meme-hello-neighbor-3-prototype-hello-neighbor-3-theodore-peterson-hello-neighbor-3-prototype-3-gif-11727234826701159476

[stone elk]

Its all finished

Nikita said it himself and there is a planned date already

The reason it didnt come out earlier was things that had to be setup before the playtest not needing to finish devlog or pre alpha

[celest plank]

can we just stop talking about the release date

[stone elk]

no worries no need talk about it soon

another topic seems like p2 had highest concurrent players

[crystal hare]

Ye cuz it released during tb connect

[steel berry]

h'yall good morning

[lavish ravine]

New day

New week

[rough fulcrum]

its 2 am for me

[lavish ravine]

New hope

And new part for the character

[hollow ore]

Full house online

How are you dear Nikita?

I guess we need more teaser

🙂

[keen hemlock]

They're all online...

its monday....

its been 2 weeks....

[crystal hare]

Do you think it's today?

[keen hemlock]

yes

cmon now

they announced every announcement with the triple i thing

every dlc

now its hn time on tinyBuilds schedule

[primal wedge]

triple ai

[crystal hare]

Honestly i thought they'll show the pre-hlpa on that event

they didn't

[keen hemlock]

it would be weird to show a pre alpha on an event like that

[crystal hare]

but i've discovered some other cool games i'll play sometime

[keen hemlock]

they usually showcase products that are finished or close to finishing

[crystal hare]

there actually was the devlog sections

[keen hemlock]

yea?

[crystal hare]

ah got it

[crystal hare]

yea, 7-20 minutes devlogs were there

[keen hemlock]

remember hn2 at e3....heh
....

anyway i believe hn3 is today if its not ill commit massive acts of terrorism

[bronze steppe]

what a classic ngl

[lavish ravine]

The character it’s not complete yet

Thats my issue

[bronze steppe]

when they showed up the other devlog the neighbor wasnt complete

[lavish ravine]

Ohhhhh right right

[crude ravine]

I hope nikita wont share another piece of player

Becuz that means pre alpha is coming i think

[bronze steppe]

frr

[crude ravine]

.

[hollow ore]

Alexandr , what do you have for lunch today?

[crystal hare]

good question...

[gentle pebble]

I remember that he put that before

Before Devlog 3 got released

[bronze steppe]

not at all cus i saw the other days that he put the same thing

[gentle pebble]

Oh

I don’t keep track on it

[polar linden]

Nikita

It's time to either post new piece or...

Pre-Alpha

[bronze steppe]

the begging is crazy ngl

[polar linden]

Damn why I sound evil

Sorry

Hope we'll learn smth new about character in Pre-Alpha and there'll be new lore pieces

If today we'll get just pieces, hope it it'll be piece with name

[bronze steppe]

that would be nice ngl

[polar linden]

Alma ho

[eager glade]

hello....

neeeighborr....

threee....

PRE ALPHAAA

[polar linden]

Aaaaaaaaa

[mortal crater]

Plsssss

[wicked moth]

please

[polar linden]

Damn

Nikita it's time for new piece

Or...

[eager glade]

brochacho

[mortal crater]

Prreeee alllphaaa

[eager glade]

sonny

[polar linden]

Guys calm down dam

[mortal crater]

We have been waiting 5 months

[polar linden]

Yeah, and same for proto 3. But damn

[mortal crater]

I need ittt

[polar linden]

Game development is not easy

Especially when it's small team

[mortal crater]

I know

[polar linden]

But I agree

When it's already ready

And date is known

Why can't just share at least that protagonist concept art damn

That not hard

And little bit stupid from Nikita's side

Sorry for that

I understand if he CAN'T tell pre-alpha's release date

But who stops him from posting full protagonist's design?

No offence to Nikita btw

[stone elk]

he has been sharing pretty frequently, he is not obligated to lol

even shared one during the weekend

[polar linden]

Yea, very informative strips

Sorry if being mean

[eager glade]

• meanwhile u begging every single day for a teaser wwhen we know we gonna get it

[polar linden]

Cuz I'm tired

Of waitning

Why can't just post full

[bronze steppe]

well then be patient

[eager glade]

and they are more tired than you

[polar linden]

Am

[mortal crater]

Me 2

[eager glade]

they dealing with god how many people who want this game and they tryin hard for yall

so calm down mate

[polar linden]

I am

[warm crane]

what grandetouristo posted

[polar linden]

Sorry

[polar linden]

For now noth

[mortal crater]

Oh

[severe merlin]

Hey, everyone! Time for another piece 🙂

[native nexus]

Yuppi

[bronze steppe]

another piece of name!

[lusty dove]

what did the first piece say?

[eager glade]

that an interesting way to show us 😭

[bronze steppe]

fr

[eager glade]

packman

or

guest 👀

[bronze steppe]

maybe

alma homan?

[crude ravine]

oh no shes gonna be ugly

[cunning cosmos]

she looks great, what you on about ma boy

[carmine steeple]

where can I download the prototype?

[crude ravine]

webarchive

[cunning cosmos]

it is currently unavailable right now but when pre alpha releases, you will be able to get it

[versed ravine]

Me when I lie

[lunar trail]

i think you need to get your eyes checked

[blissful zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440108950124101763/1493232552620593162/image.png?ex=69de38af&is=69dce72f&hm=333845e5243eb1bfa250eb2c114dada9e94c648ea2980e29a6d396582a7aa891&

hmm

[bronze steppe]

hmmmmmmmm

[hollow ore]

Almona Holokan

?

Almoka?

[bronze steppe]

hmmm

i meann makes senses for almona

i can see it

[hollow ore]

No

Before A its something like K

[bronze steppe]

gnnn

hmm

[lavish ravine]

The new part it’s put v

Our ?

[ionic bay]

Can someone make a combined version?

[lavish ravine]

I mean out ?

[blissful zinc]

working on one

[ionic bay]

ok thx

[lavish ravine]

She looks pretty what are you talking about

[crude ravine]

she looks like my math teacher

[blissful zinc]

i cba to do the full thing so heres some ofi t

[ionic bay]

☠️

[blissful zinc]

someone did whole thing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440108950124101763/1493234929360961639/protagonist.png?ex=69de3ae6&is=69dce966&hm=d1e449a90d09d3728a34ea8d07ac15531ea3468cbcaebe1b4fde1a6f6e667912&

[ionic bay]

She looked so beautiful in the first face photo, but I'm disappointed now

[lunar trail]

you guys geniunely need to get your eyes checked

[ionic bay]

Why?

[crude ravine]

i think u didnt see beatiful woman in ur life

[ionic bay]

No pre alpha today☹️

[blissful zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878

not every woman has to be attractive to you

[crude ravine]

anyway

pre alpha tomorrow

[ionic bay]

Nah bro

[lavish ravine]

Fr

And it’s just a character I mean for me looks good

[valid herald]

pre alpha high chance this week I think

[ionic bay]

I don't feel like pre-alpha is near at all

Nikita, please say something about pre-alpha

[gleaming acorn]

bro saw a mole and was immediately turned away
fairy tale fella

[polar linden]

Smth like that maybe

THATS AI

I just think the face will be different but the rest will be smth like this

[thin portal]

Probably it will release this week.

But, well... things can happen.

[ionic bay]

I don't think hair should look like that

[ionic bay]

This is a very boring day

[gleaming acorn]

gee whizz...

[ionic bay]

I couldn't understand what you said.

[crude ravine]

[small veldt]

my best friend made that gif

[primal wedge]

💩 👎 ai slop💩 👎

[small veldt]

here is my non ai terrible quick guess at the full design

[blissful zinc]

Upon doing some digging

[primal wedge]

that's better

[blissful zinc]

Here's the name that me, Klazzi and Randomuser have going off the tag and name meanings

We believe the HN3 protagonist is named

Almira Holloran

[ripe coral]

I wonder if someome drew kids from secret neighbor in hn3 style

[bronze steppe]

i mean almira sounds nice ngl

[blissful zinc]

Almira - Princess / leader
Holloran - Stranger / importer

[small veldt]

leader stranger makes sense

[valid herald]

her name？

[blissful zinc]

Hopefully we see the full design soon

[blissful zinc]

Our theory on it

We aren't certain but it lines up with the name tag

[untold grotto]

well well well

[valid herald]

ok

[gleaming acorn]

i was making fun of how you oh so blatantly announced your dislike of the rest of the hn3 protagonist's face
the brand new peice of protag art we have features a mole on the face of the character, which is really the only new part of the face i can see (aside from the nose and the other eye but like there's nothing noteworthy about that)
given the mole is the only thing i could think of that would affect how you view the face, i poked fun at how stereotypically moles are considered an 'ugly feature' often depicted on witches alongside warts and such in fairytales, proceeding to call you a 'fairytale fella' because of your dislike

[untold grotto]

an outsider of noble blood?

[gleaming acorn]

leader importer

you SMUGGLE in hn3

[polar linden]

I know just wanted to fill

[untold grotto]

cough cough

[ionic bay]

I understand now

[night vigil]

This screams "CULT"

[bronze phoenix]

hello everyone

[gleaming acorn]

(or you're uh idunno the supplier for GA company stuff and you're here to give raven brooks the good ol supermarket restocking)

[bronze phoenix]

LOL

i asked AI to finish the protag

look what it made

this is so bad

[gleaming acorn]

i love how they all have distinctly hn3 proportions instead of being just generic people shape

[bronze phoenix]

lol

[ripe coral]

How the hell third arm appeared

[bronze phoenix]

HEY AT LEAST more item holdings

thats a W right?

[bold flint]

Slop

[valid herald]

what is this

[bronze phoenix]

ik