hn3-discussion

[signal geyser]

I wonder if Janusz will survive until pre-alpha?

[crystal hare]

Hello

[signal geyser]

HI BROTHER!

[untold grotto]

why wouldn't he survive

[signal geyser]

I don't want to see him in the basket with Iris, Isaac, little car

[untold grotto]

i mean

[atomic forge]

I want nukes in pre alpha

[untold grotto]

they wouldnt scrap more npcs would they

[crystal hare]

Like in vintage?

[signal geyser]

Who knows? Resources are not infinite.

[atomic forge]

I want be able to launch them on neighbor's house

[limpid cosmos]

Okay okay just please let’s end this argument

[crystal hare]

I guess it is already destroyed

you're a bit late

[atomic forge]

🙁

[signal geyser]

I wonder if there will be new characters? Or will they just be getting rid of them now?

[crystal hare]

Nikita said he doesn't know if there's gonna be more new characters

[peak vortex]

New character idea zsunaj! Its a green buff millionaire with a story!

[signal geyser]

We lost an old man 🙁

[peak vortex]

(please note subject to change as resources are not infinite)

[peak vortex]

Pity

[oblique parcel]

My friend @lunar trail made this i would honestly love something like this in Hello Neighbor 3

Yes this is based of the hn book Reset Day

[celest plank]

thats pretty cool

id love to see more vandalized stuff in hn3

[eager glade]

That would actually look so cool

[gleaming acorn]

you are describing janusz in that photo on his desk

[meager walrus]

what if in hn3

the neighbor steals the moon

and has an army of yellow town folks

[celest plank]

ts server is out of things to say in this channel

[eager glade]

them few days was like a desert

[low gate]

Im not

I have a very good question for nikita

[earnest cape]

Man this looks beautiful I’d love more stuff like this in the game. Devs should take some notes here.

[wild girder]

I wonder if this from RBO will be in HN3 in any way. (Like different clothes for example)

[blissful river]

This is awesome

[bronze phoenix]

Hello Everyone.

[gaunt bay]

Hello, Nikita! I want to ask you, are we able to see some characters return in full game, or we’ll might get some hints on their fates? Like grave or missing poster or something like that, just to know that they’re still here or not. I understand if you don’t want to answer now because it’s a lore question

[bronze phoenix]

Hello Everyone.

[bronze phoenix]

i have so many Ideas

[trim pine]

About what?

[sand flare]

hii guys

anything new

[untold grotto]

it wont

nikita said something like since nobody can see you in the game, there's no need to customize

[celest plank]

even then theres lore for the protagonist so

[celest plank]

what im saying is you cant customize who you play as if the character you play as has lore

[opaque summit]

yes you could

appearance doesnt have to be lore-related

[celest plank]

theres a reason as to why things are designed the way they are

[opaque summit]

not always

[next kelp]

yeah

this aint undertale that number of someone's moles on cheek is important

[haughty tangle]

hi

[next kelp]

hello

[molten trout]

I wonder if there would’ve been a “canon” one like for sonic forces

prolly not

but

meh

[next kelp]

or its gonna be biggest joke from them like in deltarune

[mellow garden]

"Hello neighbor" ahh house

[next kelp]

would want to live in that house ngl

[hoary heath]

Bro it scrapped

[molten trout]

well if there would’ve been I meant

[sand flare]

have you looked in the basement yet

[mellow garden]

No

[molten trout]

this looks like it’s from a hn1 mod called “hello secret” or sum

[loud canyon]

are you able to link the actual message this ss is referencing? The date feels off as HN3 wasnt announced till November 2024, and the date is pre November so i doubt we knew of Jacob at the time

i did research, its referring to RBO as Jacob was a playable character at the time

(i realize i didnt read the "this from RBO" part till now, i hate dyslexia)

still odd i cant actually find the message in the screenshot tho

[untold grotto]

you need to get the archive role from id:customize

[untold grotto]

also fandom is not a good source

[loud canyon]

Thanks, this makes more sense

[hoary heath]

Bro we know Jacob iris coned covered signed rbo

Janusz isaac histoiran is new

[loud canyon]

I was forgot they was in rbo not gonna lie

[hoary heath]

Who new player i wonders

May be iris because it same color and iris remove

[loud canyon]

its a different new character

not iris

we know little of them

theyre new to Raven Brooks, so its not Iris as she is an established resident

[near hawk]

Nah.
It's unknown If Iris will even return to the game, and the protagonist was worked on before Nikita said he is unsure of whether Iris'll return

[hoary heath]

She change story probably

[merry venture]

Hey does anyone know how I can play prototype 1?

[abstract notch]

You can’t

[merry venture]

Wdym

[abstract notch]

Play tests are closed

[merry venture]

Oh

Isn’t there a copy of it online tho??

[abstract notch]

If you had finished Prototype 2 I think there is a way to still ply it

[abstract notch]

No only a fangame called “Signed Secrets”

And in Roblox after Mayak which is gonna be like GTA VI but hello neighbor 3 edition

[merry venture]

I think I said something bad

[abstract notch]

No you didn’t

At least in this conversation

[wild girder]

This makes me wonder something to myself. Even though we're not playing as Iris, which would you rather? remove Iris NPC but make her playable character or Remove Jacob NPC and make him playable character? (I know Iris is already removed, this is just a hypothetical question)

[hoary heath]

İris

[peak vortex]

Is there a lore reason for the residents of of raven brooks just randomly changing skills n colour from normal black white tan etc to blue green purple? Or is it just a design choice?

I just find it interesting how there's always been the normal skin colours and all of a sudden we got green yellow purple. Yet the neighbour retained his original colour so something must have happened after hn2 to have caused the changes in the residents complexions

[opaque summit]

the neighbors more yellow/green than before

and its just artstyle

[brave thunder]

there is

or you can just use steam depot to get them

[opaque summit]

whoops

[untold grotto]

there is not

its just an stylistic choice

[peak vortex]

Mk. I just think it's interesting how through the entire series they have the normal colours for skin then all of a sudden it's the whole damn rainbow like something out of star wars you know? Still. Interesting

[celest ravine]

Just a design choice, and the neighbor has the same skin color because he's too iconic, if he looked really different it would have seemed weird

[untold grotto]

he hasnt same color

more green-ish

[celest ravine]

But it is simillar to the og, he would've looked weird if he was purple

[untold grotto]

true

[tight mesa]

looks like a salvidor dali painting,

[haughty tangle]

where did you get that picture

[eager glade]

I think nikita sent it here.

[near hawk]

@haughty tangle

[haughty tangle]

thanks

now i save image

to look at the cool neighbor

😄

[eager glade]

hey nikita not sure if u can answer this but is everything really not supernatural in raven brooks or is that a joke

[bronze phoenix]

The game.

Anyways I got a question for yall, so since the Game takes Place in 2028 will it come out in 2028?

For Me thats a good question that i should share

[opaque summit]

i dont think they would plan a release date like 3 years ahead

[near hawk]

Could.

[near hawk]

I doubt it was a random date, it could at least be a deadline of sorts

[keen hemlock]

i dont think if yall ask nikita lore related question hes going to answer

you guys should try asking more gameplay related questions otherwise we will have full qna sessions filled with "cant answer story related questions, sorry"

[echo pawn]

Who knows in about how long the pre-alpha hello neighbor 3 will be released

[opaque summit]

noone

[eager glade]

he still answers some story related question sometimes.

It's also not so story related

Just confirmation

[near hawk]

Kinda is tbf

[eager glade]

not really

Cuz it's already been answered

My only request is confirmation for it

It's not anything new

[finite perch]

Guys

When hn3 will be released

[opaque summit]

i dont think there are many developers who plan a release date when theyre still making the pre-alpha...

that means nobody knows

[finite perch]

Alr ty

[gilded quartz]

Nikkita? Will we still have the storm to kill us like in Prototype 1? Or will that just be a weather setting?

[raven silo]

How did you got the idea of making a game about stalking a creepy neighbor

[wild girder]

I believe the storm is meant to have story purposes so it's going to stay in the game.

[gilded quartz]

I see…Thanks Cosmix

[near hawk]

The storm is a main part of the game.
You're supposed to explore and such until it arrives, then You restart everything with info gathered before the storm, making it be more of a progression rather than an actual game over.

[gilded quartz]

Okay

[near hawk]

So it remains basically

[gleaming acorn]

dev diary... dev diary... you need to see the dev diary...

i will acquire the dev diary for you

[high brook]

i predict we will get to see finished iris model and then pre alpha

[blissful river]

They aren’t making it right now 😭

Why waste time on modeling a a character right now when it won’t be in the game version you are preparing to release.

[trim reef]

[raven silo]

thanks.....

[eager glade]

we don't exactly know if they are "preparing" for release

[blissful river]

Yeah

I just mean currently Iris is not being used, so I doubt they will show a model and or make an updated model during this development period.

[eager glade]

True we've already been told iris ain't gonna be in it so if she ain't in it she isn't

I wonder how close we are

[chilly sundial]

For God's sake, Nikita, stop discarding more characters. I always thought they were good.

[tall sorrel]

it's not if they were good or not

it's if Nikita could fit them into the story or not

if they don't fit yet, they have been put aside for the time being

if Nikita can't work them into the story, they get cut

[sterile crane]

Hey nikita What you used to texture the old art style hello Neighbor 1 items?

[eager glade]

I love your pfp

I want the full image rn 😭

[bronze phoenix]

Hello

Anyone here?

[sterile crane]

Yes is hello Neighbill, the official.

Have the Full Image here:

Sorry, can’t send though

[gentle pebble]

Fake devbill

[gleaming acorn]

to my knowledge, that wasn't Nikita's job

[sand flare]

somethings coming ether today or tomorrow i feeeel it....

[jaunty hound]

[celest plank]

oh mate i cannot wait to come back to this message

[severe merlin]

Not sure what you mean.
I guess, just Adobe Photoshop

[jade night]

They probably didn't know that Elena textured the objects most of the time (I think?)

[severe merlin]

On the earliest stages we had one more artist and I also modeled a bit. But regardless, we all used photoshop for texturing

[jade night]

Oh I see, I figured that you Elena did pretty much all of the artist work in early development until the art style change around Alpha 2 and 3, I never heard of another artist

[lucid crescent]

How's development going on

[severe merlin]

Pretty good! Can't wait for everyone to play pre-Alpha)

[unborn fox]

Are the devs, including you enjoying the process?

[eager glade]

will it be easier on knowing what to do in the game

[lucid crescent]

Is Pre-Alpha fun to make

[crystal hare]

I hope it is fun to play

😁

[high brook]

What if pre alpha comes out wit season 3?

[unborn fox]

Best day ever

[severe merlin]

Yes! ||(I hope )||

[severe merlin]

Yep

[crystal hare]

and i hope i won't see 15 fps by the end of the session

[severe merlin]

🤞

[eager glade]

i feel like were getting closer..

[severe merlin]

What are your pc specs?

[crystal hare]

intel core i3 10th gen, 1650 super and 24 gb ram

[dry gate]

Yees my pc intel core i5 760 and amd Radeon RX 480 8gb this is problem run fine

[unborn fox]

Has anyone play-tested it yet or is it too early?

[dry gate]

Soon maybe

[unborn fox]

Giblet! ||heroe||

[dry gate]

I wonder what pre alpha will offer if Nikita does a good job with this

[eager glade]

prototype 3 was running pretty good for me

so i dont think i need toworry

[crystal hare]

I wish it had been running good for me to. I didn't even complete it cuz lags. I had like 10-15 fps at the storm section and 30-40 fps at the rest of the game. However I enjoyed playing it even with low fps

[untold grotto]

it was like 60 fps for me in max graphics

[severe merlin]

Did you have this level of performance on low?

[crystal hare]

Yes, and I even tried to set a lower resolution. Didn't help.

[meager walrus]

i think its ue5s fault

its not really that good at optimizing stuff

[meager walrus]

or atleast from what ive seen/heard

[untold grotto]

its mostly because of npcs ai

[lucid crescent]

When's the Protagonists Reveal

[idle narwhal]

Do you now use tools like "Substance Painter", "Armor paint" or "Quixel"?

I assume, since Eeree Guest Studios are part of TinyBuild, you have acces to atleast some tools from Adobe. (Not just Photoshop).

[high brook]

That might be piotrs job or the other guy

[idle narwhal]

Yeah, but someone has to pay for those tools. Maybe they still use Photoshop or even Blender for texturing.

I think TinyBuild is paying for some tools (if it's within the budget).

[untold grotto]

piotr is just character artist i believe

[severe merlin]

By the "Next version", you mean after pre-alpha? RC car and Isaac - for sure, it's too early to say for Iris. She is moved even further.

its inspired by the game "Gran Turismo". I love this series and I picked this nickname when i was 15-16-ish

[lucid crescent]

Impressive

Does the characters have full names like Theodore

[eager glade]

same

maybe a bit more iirc

[eager glade]

i used to have that game

[jade night]

They hide their faces for metaphorical reasons, masks and hiding their faces give them a different identity, a destructive identity.

[wild girder]

Small unrelated to HN3 question. Whenever you play Hello Neighbor 1 and 2, how do you approach invading the homes? Do you try to be sneaky or do you just brute force your way through?

[jade night]

hide from the real world basically

Isaac?

Guest is like a god to them I'm pretty sure, Isaac is like a sacrifice.

[lucid crescent]

Why Isaac

[empty shuttle]

if you guys are fielding problems people have been having with the game in order to get a feel for stuff that still needs fixing i got something. Although i don't know if you'll accommodate my specific use case (trying to run the prototypes on my mac with parallels desktop).

[untold grotto]

because hes a child

you know

[jade night]

Classic HN kidnapping kids

[untold grotto]

children are sinless

[untold grotto]

that too

[lucid crescent]

I know

[eager glade]

https://klipy.com/gifs/god-help-us-keenen-williams-1

[gleaming acorn]

what about this one,...

[fallow tide]

Your nickname always reminds me of this scene from The Diamond Arm. "Ruso turisto - oblico morale"

[low gate]

Hello! Do you think that Ilyich could return to radios in HN3?

[severe merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[low gate]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mario-super-mario-bros-3

[severe merlin]

Yes, I tried to run the game (and UE5 editor) for fun in parallels and had the same issues. I don't think we will address it.
Maybe there will we a native macOS version in the future, we'll see

[sterile crane]

thanks for letting know, I thought so you made some. You were alone with earlier prototypes, right?

[night vigil]

Are there any plans to change the Steam page to be more accurate to the current state of the game?

[untold grotto]

i mean #work-in-progress message

[night vigil]

How did I miss that? Thanks

[ebon path]

I wonder if Hello neighbor 3 will have the parkour mechanics from the alpha versions of hello neighbor 2?

[night vigil]

Why specifically the mechanics from the HN2 Alphas? It's not like HN2 Full Game Climbing was that different from the HN2 Alphas Climbing.

[ebon path]

idk, ok. from just HN2

[celest plank]

do you mean that climbing

by that

[ebon path]

yes

[celest plank]

if so then i hope that gets added too but its fine either way

[untold grotto]

didnt nikita say there wont be climbing

[celest plank]

i remember someone telling me that crouch jumping thing in prototype 3 is intentional? assuming it is its kinda weird

[celest plank]

i dont know

[peak vortex]

We don't talk about him.

[night vigil]

He told me they might consider bringing it back I think. I wish I had the message

[near hawk]

Think they said they aren't sure actually

I do remember him also saying he doesn't want to add it

[celest plank]

i did a lot of parkouring in prototype 3 and ive seen other youtubers doing it a lot too i think it would be useful to bring it back

[near hawk]

He said this about climbing.

But more recently, he said he's unsure iirc

[night vigil]

Same, especially this game needs the climbing from HN2 in my opinion

[peak vortex]

The HN2 climbing was actually good

[celest plank]

i pretty much agree with the whole thing here but in my opinion the climbing mechanic made the hn2 alphas feel better idk how to explain it

[lucid crescent]

Any plans for Marketing on HN3

[celest plank]

in hn3 parkouring felt like youre in roblox

to me of course idk how it was for anybody else

[night vigil]

The problem with climbing is that if the player can do it, the AI has to be able to do it too.

[night vigil]

it was a lot of fun yeah

[woven lodge]

HN1 vacuum could solve this all.

[celest plank]

the ai doesnt parkour tho

[peak vortex]

Give the ai propeller hats problem solved

[woven lodge]

Long ranged tools for the AI.

[night vigil]

But wasn't that like a golden rule of HN3. Anything the Player can do, the AI can do too?

[gleaming acorn]

the hn3 characters all have extremely long limbs

they can just reach up and yoink you

[night vigil]

Guest...

[gleaming acorn]

...yeah? all includes the guest

[woven lodge]

I thought the rule was "There is no wrong choice"?

[peak vortex]

The hn3 characters will have jetpacks courtesy of Jacob and janusz

[gleaming acorn]

'a' golden rule, not 'the'

[night vigil]

That also yeah, there's a lot of rules I feel like

[gleaming acorn]

even the fellas in paintings have freaky limbs

and pictures

[celest plank]

i think in most cases the ai could just use items and knock you off i think parkouring for the ai is too much

[peak vortex]

That one guy for the banner who was standing in the doorway

[woven lodge]

Which is kind of dumb I mean if the choice you choose doesn't get you to your own goal then it is the wrong choice.

[night vigil]

That is a good point

[gleaming acorn]

This is the guest

blockout version of the guy, but still the guest

[celest plank]

wasnt that what devlog 2 was about

the ai chooses whats cheaper

or something like that

[night vigil]

Yeah, something like that

[celest plank]

but the point of hn3 is to explore not get to a goal

[woven lodge]

Players always have a goal no matter what.

[celest plank]

oh i thought you meant like

winning the game

[gleaming acorn]

image

from grandeturisto

[woven lodge]

Exploring isn't wandering aimlessly either, you typically see something cool like a special room in a building but you take a wrong turn and you end up somewhere else. Wouldn't that have been a wrong choice?

[celest plank]

not really

thats part of the exploration

[eager glade]

i mean everyone has a goal in the town

and im sure the player has too depending on what you want to do

[peak vortex]

I wonder what Isaac's goal is.

[gleaming acorn]

"don't get murdered" seems like one of them

[celest plank]

we prolly shouldve observed isaac in p3

did anyone do that

[night vigil]

I'm pretty sure that's a goal they all have

[night vigil]

I hope

[woven lodge]

Hopefully not rage bating in the Descord chat.

[peak vortex]

I guess but the town still works together. We saw the checkbox for the festival. So "avoid getting slimed out" is probably out of the equation

[peak vortex]

???

[gleaming acorn]

storm came by the time i saved issac

and then i never managed to save that loser again

because i'm an L gamer

[celest plank]

mate

sucks so much i couldnt play prototype 3 it seemed so fun

[peak vortex]

My pc was too trash to actually play the game

Still is but we're getting there

[celest plank]

i sort of did but like i had to remove all the foliage

it was so ugly!! 😭

[peak vortex]

I just couldn't

Main menu was extremely laggy

[celest plank]

speaking of the main menu

i hope we get an actual 3d background for the menu

in pre alpha

[peak vortex]

True. Maybe of coned or signed outside an abandoned house

Or a small bit of the guest visible through a window

[celest plank]

i mean like animated and moving and allat

im pretty sure all the backgrounds are 3d

just static

[peak vortex]

That's what I mean

[gleaming acorn]

player's bus driving through the wilderness to get to raven brooks on loop

and you can see the player reading their stuff

thru a winder

[celest plank]

thats genius

[peak vortex]

Btw do we have an official player model?

[celest plank]

not yet

[peak vortex]

Peak

[mighty orchid]

It’s a joke thing that was said the neighbor rage baiting in discord chat.

[gleaming acorn]

Yes, but we've only seen the arms

[celest plank]

oh that yeah

its just not revealed

[peak vortex]

I have haven't seen it

[gleaming acorn]

grandeturisto posted the screenshot with the arms in #work-in-progress

[celest plank]

in the 4th image

[gleaming acorn]

fella is a gray person

which i just now realize is another way to indicate they aren't related to any of the townies or vandals

[peak vortex]

Looks like iris wearing a bangle or something

[gleaming acorn]

as they're skin, as skin does, appears genetic

[gleaming acorn]

iris is purple

and iris is a separate person

[celest plank]

theyre more purplish

but less saturated

[near hawk]

(The Guest who has similar skin colour)

[gleaming acorn]

not as purple as iris' family, is what's important

[gleaming acorn]

chat is this true

[near hawk]

Is it not

[gleaming acorn]

i don't know, it's why i'm asking

i don't have a picture of fella's arms

[celest plank]

Yeah, I officially don't know! The protagonist's skin color looks similar

to the rest of the characters

[gleaming acorn]

is this a typo

[celest plank]

protagonist

[gleaming acorn]

not protag

i know what protag means

i mean like if you read the message

it's confusing me

[celest plank]

fixed it

[peak vortex]

What are chances it's a relative of Nicky OR one of the kids from secret neighbour but now an adult?

[celest plank]

probably none

[gleaming acorn]

oh

then i read it correctly

the characters all have different skintones (unless blood related from what i can tell)

[celest plank]

we're completely new to the town so like yeah

[gleaming acorn]

i don't mean the concept of them having unnatural skin, i mean the specific colors
if that's where we're meeting a misunderstanding (i'm not quite sure)

[peak vortex]

Ah

[celest plank]

i like how the cursor thing in the center is like from the hn1 alphas

[peak vortex]

Imagine if Nicky shows up halfway through and says "hello neighbor! I'm Nicky Roth. That mean guy over there is Mr Peterson. Id avoid him though... He's got secrets hidden in his basement"

[celest plank]

but i do prefer the hello guest one all the way

[peak vortex]

Hello guest had a lot of potential

But never reached it

[celest plank]

ts not happening

[celest plank]

i mean i liked it

[gleaming acorn]

40 year old nicky roth in hn3 style PLEASE I NEED HIM

[celest plank]

it was fun already

[gleaming acorn]

i NEED nicky to at least be HINTED AT in hn3

his house just gone in proto 3 😔

[celest plank]

lichally like in any hn game

[gleaming acorn]

i don't care if it's like demolished or something, i just need some remnant of fella

it's been 11 years since act 3, something could've happened

[peak vortex]

Maybe the ruins of his old house. And we can find the guitar

[gleaming acorn]

but not something that completely makes his house poof out of existence

[peak vortex]

Like the guitar in hn1 that you can play

He was probably in his late 20's early 30's in hn act 3 so I'd say he's close to 50 by hn3?

But then Peterson would be at least 70 or 80 in hn3

Which wouldn't make sense

[celest plank]

hes like 85

[mighty orchid]

It would go crazy if it did. I’m hoping this happens now

[bronze phoenix]

hello guys.

[celest plank]

im not imo nicky needs to be wrapped up already

and nikita said theyre not bringing back old characters for fan service

[mighty orchid]

Well yea

[night vigil]

Same, amazing writing

[peak vortex]

Well at least include his house you know. Even if it's just the foundations of the house.

[celest plank]

yeah well i support that part

i get that its like artistic choices or something but like

[peak vortex]

Then when you go in you get a flashback to Nicky box towering and falling over

[celest plank]

why make it make no sense

[peak vortex]

But it's done in the way that it's like Nicky is being controlled by a player so the movement is all janky

[mighty orchid]

An in depth flashback to the trashcan flying even

[peak vortex]

Nah. An in depth flashback to Nicky using the bucket flying glitch

[celest plank]

like rebuilding nicky's house for hn3 would require roughly the same amount of energy as building the house thats currently there instead of nickys house

[peak vortex]

Did we even see the neighbours house yet?

[celest plank]

yeah

its in prototype 3

[peak vortex]

(I haven't played the game)

My pc can't run it

[celest plank]

its half demolished

[peak vortex]

Does someone got a pic?

[celest plank]

it would be cool if the neighbor still lived in those ruins

[peak vortex]

Is there a house across from it?

[celest plank]

you could see it in a yt video

[gleaming acorn]

nicky's age is like 12 in act 1/2 and hn2 n such, like 33 in act 3, and like 44 in hn3 (assuming nicky is actually 12 in hn1)
peterson's age is 53 in act 1/2 n hn2 n allat, 74 in act 3, and 85 in hn3

[mighty orchid]

As much as I would love to see at least his house in the game if it isn’t needed at all to the game then that’s fine. Otherwise it’s just a random house there

[gleaming acorn]

i don't even want nicky back or like anything plot related for him or whatever i just want his house 😔

[celest plank]

iirc it has the original houes layout

from hello neighbpor 1

[gleaming acorn]

yes, it does

[peak vortex]

Idek what iirc means

[gleaming acorn]

there's not even anything replacing nicky's house iirc it's just straight up gone

[gleaming acorn]

it means "If I'm remembering correctly"

[peak vortex]

Ah

[peak vortex]

Weird

[gleaming acorn]

yeah

[peak vortex]

They should have the ruins of it then

[gleaming acorn]

i think nicky's story is all good and done, i don't want him coming back as the guest or as some guy who dies or beats up sosed or whatever

i just want it to seem like he existed

[peak vortex]

Ik. I just want there to be evidence that he DID exist and he DID live there

[gleaming acorn]

a house doesn't up and leave in 11 years

[celest plank]

its fine if his house isnt there

[peak vortex]

No. It doesn't. I mean the neighbours hasn't.

*Petersons

[gleaming acorn]

well yeah but he's peterson

[celest plank]

but i really didnt like how in hn2 they just straight up replaced it for no reason

[gleaming acorn]

he's GONNA have to be there no matter what

[peak vortex]

Agreed

[peak vortex]

True

[gleaming acorn]

they USED to have his house, too

[mighty orchid]

Well the house could’ve gotten a better job opportunity than in raven brooks so it could’ve moved away

[celest plank]

did they

[gleaming acorn]

you can supposedly see it in early trailer type things

from before they switched artstyles

i'll get an image later

but in hn2 fg they just have a generic background house

[celest plank]

hn2 was overall not executed well so im not surprised

it was fine but not good

[peak vortex]

A building just grew legs and walked off to start a job in law? Nah. Not possible. Houses prefer catering

[celest plank]

cant judge too much tho i never played it

[peak vortex]

Look. We can agree on this. Even if it's unexplorable or out of bounds etc. they need to show evidence of Nickys existence

That he was in raven brooks but moved away

Maybe an old missing poster

Anything

[near hawk]

My house once did that though.

[peak vortex]

Did he win any cases?

[mighty orchid]

Or maybe they all pushed raven brooks somewhere else like that episode of SpongeBob and that’s why Nicky isn’t there because his house got left behind.

[near hawk]

No.

Also it's "She"

[peak vortex]

[peak vortex]

Mb.

Can't be assuming houses genders in the big 26

Does she take vicodin?

[near hawk]

No but she is greeen.

Greeen like Teddy...

Or like Janusz...

From peak video game Hello Neighbor 3

[gleaming acorn]

stole images from twisted egg

distinctly nicky's house, you can tell because of the windows and vague house shape and front door area n such

it doesn't appear too detailed but at least they tried

[winter ingot]

Dude i still wish we got that build

[eager glade]

<@&1162799252192379000>

Get this guy outta here

[untold grotto]

why to add it if it has no gameplay purposes

[tight mesa]

continuity

[eager glade]

what story does nicky even have left

[untold grotto]

no need to "eye candy" locations

[tight mesa]

its a option, but I like it when its done

it builds realism and immersion

[untold grotto]

and would be pretty much filler

[eager glade]

aaron should be in hn3 I highly doubt his is over

[untold grotto]

if you know you know

[eager glade]

mmmmmm

Thinking about it maybe he's actually the guest now

we'll see

[untold grotto]

the fake guest if you will

[eager glade]

I completely forgot about fake guest.

[untold grotto]

or the real guest but still fake

well i probably worded it horribely

but its like

[eager glade]

so if that's fake guest we haven't seen the real one yet of course and I don't know if we will

And I don't know if those lines are bars or strings

but with the early model of the guest it seemed like they were strings

[untold grotto]

rope

its what they called it in rig

[eager glade]

il keep that in mind

oh yeah also one thing I'm confused on since the pre alpha- prototype 3 map is a forever map till the full game there won't be any other places right?

like no more houses that are outside of the town

[untold grotto]

since nikita has more "realistic" storytelling most of hn3 stuff is symbolic

like statue stopping the storm

[untold grotto]

there would be i think

[eager glade]

which is very confusing cuz statue is for the guest worst part is nikita doesn't know who the guest is in hn2

[peak vortex]

"fake guest" what do you mean there's a fake and real guest?

[eager glade]

yeah more houses will make the map bigger as nikita said I wonder if some old hn3 teasers will also be in final game

[eager glade]

it's confusing but yes ig

[peak vortex]

So the real guest is some occult God?

[eager glade]

hard to tell really its like fake guest in prototype 3 and real guest who is the forest dweller in prototype 2 I think I dunno

[peak vortex]

Judging by the cult in hn2

[high brook]

what if its the other way around?

[gleaming acorn]

the real guest is traffic cone fella... oh my god......

[peak vortex]

Wait. Actually here's a reasonable question. Sure it could be "design choice" but why the sudden proportion changes in hn3? The guest looks originally more like Peterson in hello guest and hn2. But in hn3 he's like damn slenderman

[eager glade]

I think it's cuz of the files on what they call them I'm not sure I never looked into the files well.. not anymore since I didn't get a chance

[untold grotto]

theres no need to use prototype 1-2 (even 3 since story changed) stuff since they barely had any story

[peak vortex]

Wait let me cook something up

[eager glade]

Someone uninstalled hn3 in my room

[gleaming acorn]

everyone had proportion changes

[high brook]

ragebait ahh

[gleaming acorn]

he looked like peterson because he was designed to BE peterson in-costume

[untold grotto]

"real" guest would be something like this if theres 2 guest

[gleaming acorn]

he has a new design in hn3 fully, no longer needing to be tethered to peterson

[eager glade]

so I guess we just have to wait till pre alpha right?

[untold grotto]

yeah

[peak vortex]

Og guest who looks like Petersons build is or 'was' a vessel for the true guest who is some kind of God as evident by the whole cult stuff in hn2. Hence the extreme proportion change

[untold grotto]

keep in mind that theres a whole another npc folder named Guest

[eager glade]

Could be right it may not be a "guest" but that's what locals call him

I mean where did they get the idea of him looking like that

besides the museum history stuff

[untold grotto]

don't want to be rude but

[peak vortex]

Fair enough

[untold grotto]

they see it as their god, and its statue stops the storm, brings prosperity to the town

[peak vortex]

But the way I meant it is like how a werewolf is. Except instead of once every blue moon it's gradual. It's happens over time. The body breaks and reforms itself

[eager glade]

Speaking of cult under the museum there's this catacombs like hallways that lead to gaap are they even catacombs?

[peak vortex]

So og guest is like an egg for the true guest to hatch out of in a sense.

[untold grotto]

theres no og guest

[eager glade]

I seee

[high brook]

so what your saying the guest like posesses people and takes them over?

[untold grotto]

what you call og is hn2 guest which is not important to hn3

[peak vortex]

I swear on me nans dogs cousins owners best friends uncle that Nikita mentioned og guest.

[eager glade]

And when vandals steal the statue items they replace it that looks like the guest (the one that kidnaps us)

so they have a god too

But it's different

[untold grotto]

hn3 tells its own story, you won't need any other medium to understand its story

[wild girder]

Wouldn't all this Guest talk be more fitting for https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/768152883765444608

[untold grotto]

its still

hn3

[haughty tangle]

hello

[peak vortex]

In a sense. So when a werewolf sees a full moon its human form breaks or more so grows to resemble a wolf. Except I imagine that instead of every full moon the guest is gradually growing to resemble true guest. (The guest from hn2 and hello guest are like a worshipper but in the way that quirrel from Harry Potter allowed Voldemort to be on the back of his head)

[untold grotto]

we are talking about guest in hn3 though

[eager glade]

yeah but I don't really wanna kill the conversation unless everyone Goes to #lore-discussion

[peak vortex]

I think the neighbor isn't cool. I think he's radical

[gleaming acorn]

BuB: the guest possessed nicky!!!!

[eager glade]

neighbor hn3 model looks sick

Why no one like him

[untold grotto]

yes

and somehow they do know it kills people

[peak vortex]

I do

[untold grotto]

all of citizens know

[wild girder]

I love the model

[eager glade]

most people don't like his uncanny look

[high brook]

imagine this theory is so stupid it becomes true 💀 👀

[untold grotto]

vandals see forest dweller as friend
citizens as enemy
and FD sees all of them as enemy

[peak vortex]

I think it fits

The design being uncanny

[untold grotto]

i mean why would citizens worship someone they see as "enemy"

[peak vortex]

FD?

[untold grotto]

forest dweller

[peak vortex]

Ah

Actually one question Ik it isn't hn3 related but who's the guy that knocks us out in the end of hn2?

With the lovesh

[untold grotto]

the storms starts after festivals cancelling in 1980 if you ask me

[high brook]

my theory is the guest

[eager glade]

they fear their god but love him I guess that's maybe how it works if it kills that's his decision vandals can't force their god to stop so ig that's why they still love em

[peak vortex]

I think (and this is stupid) but the hat man

[eager glade]

why do these tiktakers think this Is a good theory

You wanna know what the worst part

Even some people in this fandom

[untold grotto]

and gaap opens sometime at 1984 or before 1984

[high brook]

imagine its pre alpha man the whole time (crazy plot twist)

[wild girder]

My theory is that The Guest isn't an actual thing, it's just some sort of mythical made up being that's connected to the town's origin so it's culture for them to celebrate it. The Guest we see in the game killing people is just a mad man or something who's impersonating it.

[gleaming acorn]

baby's first game theory

[peak vortex]

Ngl idk what gaap is or the festival stuff influencing the FD is about

[untold grotto]

golden apple amusement park

[peak vortex]

Wait hang on a second the guest kills people?

[wild girder]

Seems like it.

[eager glade]

People thought this was maritza btw

I'm not even joking.

[untold grotto]

it IS like that

confirmed in both old and new storyline

[eager glade]

Been confirmed

[peak vortex]

Who the hell is Maritza 😭

[wild girder]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

[eager glade]

girl from wtrb

[untold grotto]

yes this is it or its like theres 2 entity

well

[eager glade]

I know it's just those wtrb fans saying anything

[untold grotto]

since theres whole another folder named Guest

i would say its more like option 2

[eager glade]

since nikita said theo will have an unhomely appearance does that mean neighbor is homeless

Idrk what unhomely means

but I think it's that?

[wild girder]

I personally don't see there being 2 Guest characters in the game. I'm confident that it is just some guy impersonating this urban legend.

[untold grotto]

i mean he explained what it means in devlog didnt he

[eager glade]

I might have forgot

[untold grotto]

fair enough

[eager glade]

I think it was devlog 2

[untold grotto]

yes

and golden apple company is kinda against the guest in this storyline

[wild girder]

Uncanny. The feeling of something being eerie but creepily familiar.

[untold grotto]

they are causing raven brooks to break away from its culture

this also connects with my old janusz theory

[wild girder]

Oooh. NGL, I would be down for that if that's what they're going for.

[peak vortex]

Gaap must be some foreign company then?

[eager glade]

now I just have a sense of theo stalking us and we're gonna feel like we're being watched like actually feel like that

[untold grotto]

or analysis if you will

[peak vortex]

What's you're janusz theory

I haven't seen it

[wild girder]

Link? Where can I see this?

[untold grotto]

#hn3-discussion message

its mostly coming from the name "janusz"

[peak vortex]

Fair enough theory

[wild girder]

How on earth did you come up with that theory?

[eager glade]

we should probably add a bit more theorising now that we seen janusz finished model since he has a ring or does that not matter

[peak vortex]

I don't know Russian or Ukrainian

[untold grotto]

janusz has a wife named Grażyna in polish culture

[peak vortex]

Janusz has the Benjamin button disease and is married to iris

[near hawk]

I'd upvote this If i could.

[untold grotto]

mostly because of the name "janusz"

[wild girder]

Oh. I thought there were actual in game clues that hinted to that.

[eager glade]

Wow how did you come up with that

[peak vortex]

I don't know what janusz means bro 😭 I'm Irish idk anything about polish or Russian or Ukrainian cultures

Languages etc etc

[untold grotto]

it links to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janusz

well no

wrong page

[eager glade]

Hey I just searched Google on what janusz name means and Where its from.and yes it's polish it's meaning also means "god is gracious"

[peak vortex]

So it's like alluh ahkbhar being god is great?

[untold grotto]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janusz_(stereotype)

this is the page

thats also confirmed by nikita in this message - #hn3-discussion message

[eager glade]

I guess so I'm muslim so more of this vandals knowing guest kills makes sense to me

[untold grotto]

theres few

• mentions of tasty bakery as a whole building itself and in a photo
• janusz working on golden apple supermarket while literally having a tattoo of tasty bakery
• nikita mentioning janusz as "something something with past" (lol i forgot he said)

and his cashier role fits with the meaning of the stereotype

plus he has a ring that possibly reference to Grazyna

[eager glade]

I wonder what made him not work there anymore bad luck? we don't know

[untold grotto]

its not because he understands the changing

[eager glade]

interesting.

[untold grotto]

i forgot how to say it

gimme a sec

[near hawk]

This i think

The message below

[untold grotto]

yeah yeah

he survived it because he always chooses whatever keeps him afloat one more month

this

[eager glade]

makes sense actually

[untold grotto]

in hn3 the town has 3 era if you will

[untold grotto]

pre golden apple
during golden apple
post golden apple

post golden apple is when you start the game

pre golden apple is whole festival and god guest thing

sometime sometime 1800s-1979

during golden apple 1980 - the date the town was half abandoned (?)

during GA is both RB's best and worst days actually

[near hawk]

Well it was when they abandoned the festival sorta no

[untold grotto]

thats why i said both best and worst

[near hawk]

But i guess the Guest still being a symbol for the Golden Apple would sorta balance it out some way

[eager glade]

there should be more very important areas like the museum

I'm sure museum gave alot of lore

[untold grotto]

probably historian will too

because shes not an historian actually

townspeople call her "Historian"

[eager glade]

Oh?

[night vigil]

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they're gonna do. Make every area important in a way

[eager glade]

But she's just a grandma

[untold grotto]

thats probably shes that type of grandma that always saying "go back to your culture"

[eager glade]

Yeah but areas that give so much lore like newspapers and stuff

[untold grotto]

probably tells townspeople (especially to children) a lot about old stuff

[eager glade]

I really want a mayak or if it's destroyed we can just do the underground mayak

[near hawk]

I agree, i'm curious how they would make her give Lore though.
I guess her actions coukd show some stuff.

[untold grotto]

keep in mind that shes 85+ years old

[eager glade]

around neighbors age mmm

[near hawk]

Not necesarily around

[untold grotto]

[its because shes called "the oldest person in town" and neighbor is 85]

[near hawk]

But older, since she's the oldest citizen

[untold grotto]

which makes her 85 plus

[near hawk]

She could be like, 100 or so for all we know

[untold grotto]

yeah

[eager glade]

maybe some locals don't notice the neighbor at all since he's very good at hiding but yeah yall probably right I mean she looks veryy old so makes sense

I mean theo would look kinda like her but he's a fit man so

[untold grotto]

would you say hn3 is also will have some kinda distorded reality

since hn1 and hn2 had it in nikita's storylines?

[eager glade]

distorted reality?

like guest world?

[untold grotto]

exactly

and with nicky's self therapy stuff

[eager glade]

That would be pretty cool

[near hawk]

Do You mean like, metaphors, imagination, "dream" stuff?(But not really dream cuz that's too simple and weird, we're all here better than that)

[untold grotto]

yep

[near hawk]

If so, definitely

[eager glade]

we don't actually know alot of guest world

It's such a interesting thing

[near hawk]

Because, the statue stopped the storm for example

[untold grotto]

doesnt it just quentins yellow journalist stuff

[near hawk]

Back in the day yes

And even then Nikita said he couldn't reveal too much.

Maybe he said that before he gave out its story, i don't remember.

[untold grotto]

well yeah go back to topic

[eager glade]

So there might be much more than we know

[untold grotto]

so since isaac is removed but still important to lore

[eager glade]

Actually there is

[untold grotto]

probably the vandals sacrifacing him is scrapped

[eager glade]

He is the vandals goal after all

[eager glade]

cuz of the guest killing thing?

yeah probably

[untold grotto]

no no

he is less important to story now

[peak vortex]

So micky was around raven brooks during the 80s yet it was half abandoned then in hn2 it's somehow fully inhabited?

[near hawk]

But still part of the core

[untold grotto]

less than other npcs like jacob, janusz and other npcs

[eager glade]

Well yes right now but eventually we will see

[near hawk]

During the 80s? Depends sorta.
With info from other media, no.

[eager glade]

we're focusing on someone else's story right? could be uus since we have a player model or someone elses

[untold grotto]

what my problem is jacob is kinda feels like an filler character at the moment

[eager glade]

nikita did say in a devlog a guy with a dream

[near hawk]

They could have figured some greater role for him

[untold grotto]

like you can say things with other npcs while you cant even tell anything about his backstory or something

[near hawk]

Yeah, what could that dream be

[eager glade]

Hmmmm

[untold grotto]

i dont think theres any hint about that in prototype 3, is there?

[near hawk]

(i'm still full of NaCl over him remaining while Iris doesn't)

[eager glade]

0 ideas

[eager glade]

Not sure unless you pay attention on what he does in the entire prototype which I didn't do

I only stayed with the historian cuz she keeps disappearing easily

[peak vortex]

Civil rights for all blue people

[eager glade]

I mean here's my guess

[untold grotto]

also there is this

[eager glade]

He's weaj

[near hawk]

Well ain't most Raven Brookians blue.

[eager glade]

Weak

So maybe he wants to be strong like iris

[peak vortex]

Fair point

[eager glade]

that's his dream maybe?

That's just a guess it's probably bigger than that.

[peak vortex]

But that's raven brooks which is now run down and a complete slum

What about greater American

[untold grotto]

he was, not anymore

[untold grotto]

he was an coward person in prototype 1/2

[peak vortex]

America

[eager glade]

Who jacob?

[near hawk]

Yes

[untold grotto]

yes

[near hawk]

Jacob

[peak vortex]

Yes

[eager glade]

huh I didn't notice that'd be his letter

[peak vortex]

Wake up I'm still Jacob

(niche reference)

[old pawn]

do u guys like how hilly the map is? for me from the bakery onwards is kinda too much

[eager glade]

I wonder how the dream stuff will be like in hn3

[untold grotto]

i dont think there would be any

[peak vortex]

I hope there isn't

[eager glade]

or guest world

I mean

[untold grotto]

which is like unsuitable to gameplay

[eager glade]

We won't really have like a dream trauma thing

[peak vortex]

Gaap being a location would be cool

[eager glade]

Cuz we are newcomers

[eager glade]

It is tho lol

[untold grotto]

its already in-game though

[peak vortex]

Like in hg the gas station and everything I mean

[untold grotto]

since the world isnt looping canonically

[peak vortex]

The van being there too

[untold grotto]

there can be no dreams between loops

[eager glade]

Does guest world also count as a dream thing

[near hawk]

I don't think there will be anything like switching in between dream world and real world stuff

[untold grotto]

yeah

its probably like

[near hawk]

Nor, overly cartoony, distorted stuff

[untold grotto]

either everything is not real or everything is full real

[near hawk]

I think it'll just be present all throught the gameplay/story

Sorta blending in with the reality

So You have to think about what is real and what isn't, and what symbolises what

[eager glade]

I heard somewhere that there'll be cutscenes in final game but your not just sitting back and watching your playing experiencing the scene like a fortnite event for example

I think nikita said it

[untold grotto]

yeah

there will be intro and ending though

atleast thats what i have understand

[eager glade]

since actions is how we play out I wonder if there'll be multiple endings

[near hawk]

He said there wouldn't be cutscenes but said it wouldn't be bad to have ending/intro iirc

[untold grotto]

yep

[untold grotto]

he then changed his idea about it iirc

lemme check

#hn3-discussion message

so yeah there will be intro and ending, but no cutscene that cuts the gameplay

[peak vortex]

Good

[eager glade]

Well that's good to hear

Since mayak has been mentioned in hn3

There should be a location for it even if its abandoned like the church

maybe not the underground tho

[peak vortex]

Mayak?

[eager glade]

Yeah

[peak vortex]

What's mayak

[untold grotto]

meteorological station

[peak vortex]

Ah

Ok

The place from hello guest yh?

[eager glade]

weather station

Yes

[eager glade]

Well from the prototype of it

And in hello guest

Behind the white board thing

[peak vortex]

Ik

[untold grotto]

oh well

[peak vortex]

Will the hat man be returning I wonder?

In some way shape ormform

[untold grotto]

we shouldn't forget the other Isaac

[eager glade]

oh that's an interesting thing.

[untold grotto]

isaac sr.
isaac jr.

if you will

[eager glade]

The other what now?

[untold grotto]

the one that disappeared

theres his missing posters around the town you know

[near hawk]

The one we first saw in the missing poster

[peak vortex]

While I know that Nikita said they won't be bringing back too many old characters for fan service I wonder because the hat mans story was never explained?

[eager glade]

oh yeahh

[peak vortex]

Oh yes

Wait

[near hawk]

He looked more older than Isaac jr

[peak vortex]

I'm thinking of slenderman mb

[untold grotto]

we first thought it would be just asset reuse

[eager glade]

I wonder why they're still using that one

[untold grotto]

but its not

[eager glade]

Especially in pre alpha

[untold grotto]

since even in pre alpha they still has it

[peak vortex]

Send a picture?

[untold grotto]

also its cleary older than other posters

[near hawk]

It's dirtier

[eager glade]

Was it there since prototype 2?

[untold grotto]

here you go

[peak vortex]

Ty

[near hawk]

Are both of these in the same version actually

[peak vortex]

So Isaac went missing and Isaac is now back again? (I haven't played the photos)

[untold grotto]

yes

[untold grotto]

presumably theres 2 isaac

wait wait

[near hawk]

Me when Isaac and "Isaac":

/j

[untold grotto]

well it may sound crazy

but

the other isaac is also sacrificed

[eager glade]

Oh god oh god

[peak vortex]

Wait so Isaac 1 (the one we've seen) has Isaac 2 ( missings) hat

[eager glade]

hold on just a seconds

he may be up to smth

[untold grotto]

i dont think its same but its up to what you think

[peak vortex]

Oh come on put 2 and 2 together mate it's the same hat

It looks the exact same

It's the same shape

Just because "it's a different Isaac" can't mean it's not the same hat

[eager glade]

Maybe this isaac found the other Isaacs hat?

man what are we doing.

[gleaming acorn]

they're noticeably different hats

[peak vortex]

Isaacs hat could affect trout population in Norway

[gleaming acorn]

iris' issac's hat is flatter, resting atop his head

poster issac's is clearly closer to a beanie

picture of iris' issac for reference

[near hawk]

I wonder just how long ago this guy vanished before game action

[untold grotto]

isaac sr's death is probably when the people started to see the guest (which is forest dweller, aka fake guest) as a killer

they may be didnt see him as he killed him

probably see him got dragged by FD

but vandals may did see him killing isaac sr

[eager glade]

Most likely not cuz why are 5here still missing postas

[untold grotto]

thats why they also sacrifacing other isaac and how they know FD kills

[eager glade]

Maybee

[untold grotto]

i mean everyone knows that fd is killing or hes a kidnapper

they must have witnessed something

[eager glade]

What does fd stand for

[untold grotto]

forest dweller

[eager glade]

Yeah witnessed him going to the forest yeah and maybe kidnapped

[untold grotto]

isaac sr went to forest
kidnapped by forest dweller aka fake guest
someone from the town witnessed him being dragged by forest dweller
bit after vandals or an vandal saw isaac sr's death
vandals started to see it as friend while normal citizens started to see it as an enemy

[eager glade]

Okay that made sense

[near hawk]

Now who could have witnessed him

[eager glade]

I wonder if we can see the whole guest ritual and how it'll work cuz the only thing we seen is guest pulling off his beak

[gleaming acorn]

under the beak is a very long tongue

and the guest licks issac's forehead

and eats his hair

[peak vortex]

And sucks his lover out of him through his toes

*liver

[untold grotto]

do you think the adult isaac and kid isaac is related by blood

[gleaming acorn]

woah there

[peak vortex]

No

[gleaming acorn]

absolutely not

[untold grotto]

i mean are they relatives?

[near hawk]

Even if not blood they must be related in some way surely

[untold grotto]

well probably not since we do know isaacs father

[gleaming acorn]

he's not even purple

[untold grotto]

which the only thing they probably have in common is that theyre both male

[peak vortex]

They're related in Brookhaven rp

[gleaming acorn]

"omkg you play as iris' mom in hn3"

[eager glade]

Oh god oh god

[untold grotto]

well this also gave me an idea

since isaac is confirmed to be around ten years old this photo cant be that old

[gleaming acorn]

ummy yummy

[untold grotto]

its like 2021 maybe

would you say thats after something happened and town got abandoned

[eager glade]

Iris seems around the age of 12 enough too

[eager glade]

Well some of the books took place in 2021 iirc right

But I don't think that matters

[near hawk]

Probably doesn't.
Nikita's take on the story is mostly seperate from everything else.

[eager glade]

Either reset day or RB disaster csnt remember

[gleaming acorn]

issac turned three and everyone really hates three year olds and HAD to get out of there

[eager glade]

yeah true.

[near hawk]

Reset day it was

[eager glade]

oh well then I got nothing on reset day.

maybe it was before the town got half abandoned

They look happy enough

I wonder what happened to their parents tho

[near hawk]

Missing i assume.
And dead.

[eager glade]

yeah

Maybe they could also be apart of their story

[untold grotto]

also theres more unrevealed characters

some of them probably wont be in game though

or maybe all of them

[near hawk]

Nikita said there were 15 planned or smth a while ago no?

Or is that mandela effect.

[untold grotto]

it was like an wish rather than plan

[near hawk]

25 i remember was also a number, that one was for sure just a wish

15...
I think i heard that in the MegaM interview maybe?

[untold grotto]

this

[peak vortex]

25 would be a bit much for an abandoned town. 15 sounds better

We will get Greta the baker

Ong

[untold grotto]

well since we do know their resources is not even enough for 10 npcs with simple tasks or smth

[eager glade]

Ravenbrooks ain't a ghost town but it's half abandoned yes

[untold grotto]

there wont be any more if you ask me

[untold grotto]

(atleast in optimization wise)

[near hawk]

Pretty sure ghost towns can still have people and count as ghost towns.

[eager glade]

Yeah but nikita said its not a ghost town

[untold grotto]

we already have an baker in hn3 though...

[eager glade]

Gerda?

atp I think she's just dead

[civic totem]

The fake Guest (enemy NPC) is the bad Guest
The real Guest is the good Guest

[peak vortex]

Fair

What

[civic totem]

Slash hj

Half joke

[untold grotto]

he also lost his hair with his bakery...

wait wait

where the hell is his other hand

[eager glade]

Pocket

[civic totem]

They forgor to draw it 💀

[eager glade]

Loll

[untold grotto]

he got a prosthetic hand with the salary offered by Golden Apple

[civic totem]

Golden Apple are good guys?

https://tenor.com/view/pixels-adam-sandler-pacman-pacmans-a-bad-guy-bad-guy-gif-4736079244750511654

[near hawk]

Prosthetic hair would've been a better choice ngl

Wait no

[untold grotto]

theres no flights between turkey and raven brooks though...

[untold grotto]

somehow, theyre not good but not bad too

atleast in hn3

from what i have understand just a greedy and opportunistic company

[civic totem]

Yeah

[untold grotto]

that invests in a small town

[near hawk]

Morally gray ig

[civic totem]

And might sort of have a monopoly in the town

Wt h I said an monopoly

[civic totem]

Beacause, I mean, if the theory that the Tasty Bakery closed because of the GA Supermarket is correct...

[untold grotto]

theyre pretty rich guys

tasty bakery is his own job of janusz

[untold grotto]

but he is earning more with just being an cashier in their supermarket

[civic totem]

Yeah true

[eager glade]

Guys I just figured out smth