hn3-discussion

[bronze phoenix]

go to steam

right click Playtest

go to manage

[timid berry]

it can be opened through files if you havent uninstalled it from steam

[bronze phoenix]

Browse local files

and then press the Exe

[timid berry]

and find it in the files a lot of us know it already same was with second proto

[bronze phoenix]

yea

bro do u got proto 1 for google drive?

[raven pilot]

but you said "even if it is uninstalled" and you can only go to the playtest local files if you have it downloaded, even if they removed from steam, your game doesnt uninstall

[raven pilot]

yeah

[bronze phoenix]

u hosting a collection?

[raven pilot]

its for myself and my friends but i dont think the mods would like me to share to someone in this server bcse of safety reasons

[bronze phoenix]

alr

Btw

do u guys remember the steam picures

[raven pilot]

i also have rbo on that collection, i saved before they disabled the steam console thing for hn3

[raven pilot]

yeah

[bronze phoenix]

is it RBO? or what we can expect from final game?

[raven pilot]

its that prototype egs shared in 2024

[bronze phoenix]

no its not

cause

the guest is in it

in one of the picures

[timid berry]

RBO? can i try it i havent play it yet bruh i played all 3 protos but not rbo

[timid berry]

?

[bronze phoenix]

let me pull it up

[raven pilot]

im not talking about the steam pictures, im talking about rbo 2024 prototype

[bronze phoenix]

HERE

the guest is in the backround

if u look closely

[timid berry]

yea i see him

[bronze phoenix]

since he is not in RBO

I THINK

this is what the final game looks like

[raven pilot]

you mean final game rbo or hn3?

[bronze phoenix]

Hn3

cause the guest isnt in rbo

and this looks like Proto 3 type Location

except with diff lighting

[raven pilot]

these screenshots are just a mere representation of hn3

proto3 is closer to final game then those pictures

[bronze phoenix]

this is a representation of the final game

[raven pilot]

proto3 is a better representation of it

[high brook]

this is the model seen there

(shown by nikita)

[raven pilot]

i like that one a lot but the new one fits more

[high brook]

also he said he couldnt release the model since it was an "internal placeholder"

[raven pilot]

i remember that

[raven pilot]

and also, i thought it was funny that the guest is using normal casual clothes like if he was a vandal on this model

before proto3 realesed i thought the guest would be taller

like in the proto1/proto2 main menu screen

[high brook]

yea guest height was changed for gameplay i think

[raven pilot]

probaly

[hoary plume]

pitacho man got taller beacause he eated all the pistachos in the world

[raven silo]

In Hello Neighbor 3 the neighbor is the one who sneaks into your house

not you

[timid berry]

get out nickkky it's petoria has invaded ur house (petori from griffins and theodore PETERson)

[raven silo]

💀

[near hawk]

He got shorter though

[rancid bough]

Been super busy, but rmb i hadn’t played proto 3, loving it, but seeing what i presume the guest to snatch me up at mach 5 scared me shitless dude- 😭 love this game, please dont do the hn treatment to it🥲

Scared me again i hurt my broken arm🥲- think ima pause for tn-

[celest ravine]

NIKITA IS ONNNNNN

[timid berry]

[broken galleon]

🫩🫩🫩

[bronze steppe]

like every other day

[celest ravine]

Yeah but every other day he might post something

[timid berry]

i love that purple gamma, i think it could be cool to also return to the game, cuz for name game is just in orange, brown and dark blue

[bronze phoenix]

whats after Pre alpja

is it alpha

or

is there alpha 1 2 3 etc

[opaque summit]

its between the prototypes and alphas

[stone elk]

likely

they are gonna want to get the ball rolling

snowball effect

[hoary plume]

What would happend if the guest do the sploinky yoinky?

[stray isle]

https://tenor.com/view/poppy-playtime-chapter-5-poppy-playtime-the-prototype-kissy-missy-head-turn-gif-16525118146443141976

[opaque summit]

what

[stray isle]

PrOtOtYpE mEnTiOnEd??11/1/1/?!?!!!!!

[opaque summit]

yeah

[eager glade]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-hello-neighbor-2-ai-baby-meme-holding-laugh-remake-gif-6637651886856983277

[full narwhal]

the gawk gawk guy

[dim elk]

Am buying the game

Officially

No more begging

To get it

So I can just get it without asking someone to give it to me for free

[spiral atlas]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxFCcg9pDaI1_IWJoPtmgQmpsFy-tqjxty?si=qVFjujJul3B1gykw

[bronze steppe]

ayyyyyy

[untold grotto]

not something new though

[spiral atlas]

Ah, thought the first one was new

Mb

[untold grotto]

its just repost of the insta ones

[sacred nova]

what do yall think the ends gonna be like?

[hoary plume]

The neighbor doing a awesome dance

[trim pine]

(only assuming) Probably what we've already seen in the prototypes, but combined:
The rituals
The death ending
The buss escape
The storm ending
I hope we get more ending options in future though...

[gilded quartz]

Whose excited for HN3?

[high brook]

i wonder if pre alpha will be a playtest or a build that can stay

[topaz arch]

who in this server isnt

[high brook]

like hn2 pre alpha stayed

[gilded quartz]

I’ll post a ICYM image from the official one

This is from the official “tinyBuild” YT channel

[thick ferry]

Me

[topaz arch]

atp i just want the games release date😭

[untold grotto]

it didnt

it was rereleased months after its release

[gilded quartz]

I think in HN1 Dynamic pixels designed the beta’s and the final but not HN2 but HN3 I think has Dynamic Pixels as well

[untold grotto]

techinally they did design all of them

[gilded quartz]

Just said, only One and Three not two

[gilded quartz]

But the screenshot of the HN3 “Pre-Alpha” was 1 hour ago

[untold grotto]

well thats absolutely not true

[untold grotto]

ikr, wasnt talking about it

[gilded quartz]

Ok…Dynamic Pixels, a Russian game development studio, collaborated with tinyBuild on the Hello Neighbor franchise. They developed the original Hello Neighbor game in 2017, its prequel Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek in 2018, and the multiplayer spin-off Secret Neighbor in 2019. In July 2020, tinyBuild acquired Dynamic Pixels, establishing Eerie Guest Studios to continue developing the Hello Neighbor series.

[untold grotto]

yes

[severe merlin]

Not exactly. Secret Neighbor was made by Hologriph

[timid berry]

and which part of hello guest was made by you except that building idea and atmosphere

[wicked moth]

Nikita, could you tell us what this location is? Is it the church from HN1 and HN2?

[timid berry]

smth like that

[high brook]

i hope pre alpha doesnt get delayed

i understand that i may sound impatient and i KNOW they are taking a good amount of time to make it as good as possible

cause the longer the wait the better the game

usually

[night vigil]

I'm really curious as to how exactly the game is gonna play out in the Pre Alpha. Because it does seem to try to go into the whole "Loop" thing a bit more.

[high brook]

im pretty sure the objective is totally different this time, and the loop might be more finished as nikita said this was gonna be like the base for it

like core gameplay loop might be stick around

i dont really know though and if im wrong nikita can correct this i guess

[wicked moth]

I wonder how close the pre-alpha is to release date, I'm so excited!

[night vigil]

I hope, I really didn't like the goal in P3. I liked the exploration a lot though. There's already a whole lot to see

[high brook]

yea the goal in p3 was kinda mid

and it was really hard to beat

the only ending i was able to get was the bad one

i cant get the good ending still because the ai still has flaws

[abstract notch]

Church from HN2 Halloween DLC

[night vigil]

i did get the good ending, after forcing myself to try for 3 hours straight (with horrible optimization might I add)

[high brook]

for some reason the historians ai is one of the worst

her navigation is so brokne

[night vigil]

Yeah, the Guest just tries to kidnap her, and ones that happens they both get stuck on a fence. And this is just one of the examples of her getting stuck.

[high brook]

on my playthroughs she keeps getting stuck under the house next to the bakery

[night vigil]

Omg that happened to me like 4 times it's not even funny ||(it kinda is tho)||

[high brook]

yea i couldnt even hit her with an object to move her

[night vigil]

This sounds like a whole lot of fun. This also kinda sounds like Majoras Mask, I'm all for it

[gilded quartz]

I’d say a Chapel (Same as Church…I think but mini?)

[spiral spear]

By the way, Nikita, have you seen their new game? I found the concept very interesting.

[lavish ravine]

A very important question : Wsp your day

[old comet]

first time i see someone else use the gif

[severe merlin]

All level design and game design, almost all sound design, concept art and probably something else

[severe merlin]

Sand? I have seen it, but haven’t played yet. Style and concept seem very fun

[dark bison]

The playtest was fun, but buggy.

[spiral atlas]

How would the gameplay progression of HG worked? You said in the past that it was chapter based but the park was also like a main focus with semi-open world gameplay

A lot of people think it would have been The Park, then the Mill from Rumble on The Mill

[eager glade]

I used it almost everytime

[old comet]

glad you like it

[spiral atlas]

This is true

Wonder how that would have played into things?

[timid berry]

but your music style for hello guest and hello neighbor 3 is very "eerie and cozy" so its perfectly matching. not only your music btw

[untold grotto]

hn3 themes is made by siarhei i believe

[timid berry]

yea and him too

[chilly sundial]

hey nikita, what will the pre-alpha be about? will the neighbor be in the pre-alpha, and what will the player experience be like? will there be more npcs?

[random shell]

We probably have to wait and see

[small mica]

Yo anybody here remember the movie? Hopefully a trailer comes out soon.

[random shell]

I don’t know if they even finish the script yet

[chilly sundial]

@random shell yes

[small mica]

Stranger things didn’t finish their script, what stops tiny build from releasing trailers half way through filming?

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-batman-uhmm-gif-13580262

[random shell]

I’m sure a movie is more complicated to make then just a game. Probably be a couple more years

If it’s still happening

[small mica]

Stranger things isn’t a game…

?

[random shell]

You’re in the wrong chat because this is not about Stranger Things

?

[small mica]

I was talking about the script, what are you on about.

[small mica]

Also this, the first draft has been completed, so the script is probably finished by now

[chilly sundial]

@small mica

[high brook]

im suprised there hasnt been any leaks it yet

[hard zephyr]

Do yall know when is the release date of hn3?

I am so excited

I can’t wait for it

[random shell]

Not confirmed

[abstract notch]

Guys

Do you think Mayak will return?

I think so

Because

In one of the devlogs

He said he wanted to make a world that feels familiar but doesn’t at tge same time or at least something like that and he showed Mayak in one of the pics he was showing of HN2 artwork so I think it will return

[summer totem]

I have a question, was the mayak this building in the good ending from hello guest prototype?

[opaque summit]

im pretty sure it was

[summer totem]

ok

[abstract notch]

So will it return?

[abstract notch]

How? I’m dying to see what’s inside it

I NEED to see what’s inside it

MAYAK

FROM THE MOMENT I SAW IT IN MANY ARTWORKS I WAS DYING TO SEE WHAT’S INSIDE CUZ IT WAS USED FOR DECORATION

[opaque summit]

weve seen the inside in AS

[abstract notch]

AND I AM DYING EVEN MORE TO KNOW CUZ OF WTRB

When?

[opaque summit]

the flashback

with theos brother

[abstract notch]

Yea but I wanna see where the tunnels lead to and if there’s anything important in there

There’s also another thing

There’s other floors too

And I’m specifically talking about this

I don’t see that room tho

Also I just realised smth

Nikita said in the first devlog smth about “dreamy places” but unfortunately they never added that dreamy atmosphere in Hello Guest

Notice what?

What about it?

Yea they do look different

A LOT different

Wut

I wonder where the tunnels lead to…

And what’s in the upper floors ofc

Also

The only game I’ve managed to get into Mayak is Hello Neighbor the new Neighborhood 2

But I couldn’t explore much cuz the cop shoots me

The closest I’ve been to seeing what’s inside Mayak is this

[opaque summit]

what even is this

[abstract notch]

Screenshots from Mayak

[opaque summit]

from where

[abstract notch]

I found it in a fangame

[opaque summit]

bruh

[abstract notch]

I said it’s “the closest I’vebeen to seeing what’s inside Mayak”

[primal wedge]

it's not even a mayak

[dusky hearth]

.. ROBLOX..

[abstract notch]

It is

[sand flare]

aas

[lunar trail]

That reminds me of the Aaron Trilogy Weather Station

It looks nice

[lucid veldt]

it does look call

[robust cloak]

How to play HN3

[hoary heath]

I want ask some thing

Why to use unreal engine 5 if it cause optimization problems

[restive oxide]

cuz ue5 sucks

[low gate]

UE4 is much better and the graphics arent even bad especially for HN3 so i dont think the change is necessary

[hoary heath]

What you say bro

I think hn3 should move to ue4

[raven pilot]

why?

[hoary heath]

I literal just say

Optimization is bad and unreal engine 5 optimization make it more bad

Even big companys struggle with ue5 optim

[raven pilot]

no but is there any other reason? i mean, i prefer ue4 but if the devs think ue5 is better than i think it should stay in ue5 you see?

[hoary heath]

And i ask why devs think it better

[wicked moth]

I wonder what map changes the pre alpha will have

[fleet sandal]

Based on the recent teasers so far, there's going to be a post office and a church with a cemetery.

[cunning cosmos]

Yah

[restive oxide]

ue5 is not much better than ue4
other than the fact that it has nanite and lumen, they can both achieve the same things
ue5 is just much heavier than ue4 and doesn't run as good

[trim reef]

hi

[near meadow]

1 2 3 I want more teasers

[severe merlin]

It’s not that simple. UE5 is not just worse version of UE4 but with lumen and nanite.
Its has a lot of features for easier development. Also this version is always up to date for the modern platforms.
If you know what to do and have enough resources - UE5 can run pretty good

[sand flare]

that's exactly what i say the newer versions of UE have more features and optimization features and is generally easier to use but everybody criticizes it even though they haven't tried optimizing it to its fullest...

[timid berry]

HN3 had pretty realistic look bcs of UE5 lightning system, if forgetting about optimisation, hope in pre-alpha where models will be detailed, optimisation will be better

[blazing bison]

could you elaborate a little more on that? of course i imagine that having better hardware or optimization programs simply can allow ue5 to simply just run better (not that i've noticed too many differences between it and ue4), but are there any specific techniques you've learned of while using ue5 that differentiate from what you'd do on ue4?

[worthy girder]

I think he was talking about the workflow. Like the engine has more shaders making it run slower than ue4. But the better ux & workflow of ue5 is worth it

[blazing bison]

ohhh gotcha, that makes more sense, probably should've read the context since now i feel like that was a dumb question lol

you can tell i barely know anything about ue4/ue5

[twilit gate]

Hi, sorry if i'm not meant to do this here, but i wanted to ask something about HN2. I remember seeing teasers and clips for alpha 2 in the devlogs and the ai overview, but i've seen some oddities pointed out in analysis videos (Like the presence of tposing theodore in the artstation images for the manor, and the floating living room from some teasers, but also jeez the neighbor is micro compared to his house). I feel like some of these things make it seem alpha 2 was just a showcase for potential concepts, and was not exactly intended to be playable (but then again, the idea for the game shifted cuz of issues which are totally understandable). so i'd like to know if anyone actually knows. I really apologize if i'm not supposed to ask about anything here, but i'd be thankful to know: Is alpha 2 an actual build, or is it just some concepts showcase like the early prototype of the first game? And, sorry if it's a stretch, but if it's a real build, would it be possible to be released, or at least somewhat of a playthrough? Really, sorry for asking in the wrong place if so. I'm like the youngest person here

[severe merlin]

UE5 can run just as fast as UE4. People often skip optimization, because of limited resources. Great example is Arc Raiders. Game is UE5. Runs flawlessly.

[lavish ravine]

Question about the beginning of game development: Was there a different story or setting than what we currently have in the game? (such as a change in the art style or a different story instead of the one we have)

[blissful river]

The playable “alpha 2” was most likely what was shown in the showcase stream. The graymanor level was all just concept locations for testing and promotional material.

That version of the game is most definitely lost forever.

[blazing bison]

interesting, im not sure i follow though. isn't optimization what you do to make the most of your limited resources? or do you mean resources in terms of how many people are available to optimize the game?

[trim trout]

ye

[trim trout]

Arc Raiders is peak ngl

[fluid portal]

I was curious because of the nature of the AI in the game how the guest would behave in certain cercumstances. From my findings, if you shove enough bananas in the guests face you can befriend him. Even more surprisingly, the number of bananas might be around 3-4 which is a lot less then what I assumed.

[trim reef]

you can tame the crow in prototype 3?!

[chilly sundial]

hey nikita, what will the pre-alpha be about? will the neighbor be in the pre-alpha, and what will the player experience be like? will there be more npcs?

[severe merlin]

By resource I mean: time, money, people, skill.

[bronze phoenix]

to this day i still cant beat proto 3

anyone got Ideas

or helpful tips

[haughty tide]

you have to collect statue parts for the statue that's located outside of the hotel. and making sure that the town citizens do not get taken away by the guest.

[bronze phoenix]

easier said then done

i got all the parts

but now i need to get all the people before 12pm

[haughty tide]

oh, then what's the problem?

[haughty tide]

oh yes, that's the hardest part. were some of the town people being taken away by the guest?

[bronze phoenix]

yea but when i go there they keep getting recaptrued

by him

[haughty tide]

alright i will give you some tips of how you can get the town people from the guest in a easier way.

[bronze phoenix]

alr

[haughty tide]

tip 1: carry your flashlight all the time because the guest hates it when you shine the flashlight at him. so make sure your carrying the town people WHILE holding the flashlight in your hand so the guest won't annoy you.

tip 2: make friends with the guest. give him some food and drinks. you can make friends with the guest and he will leave you alone. you can carry the town people without the guest annoying you.

hopefully these tips will help you out.

[trim reef]

I love how you can befriend enemies, it just goes to show how progressive the AI has become—and how actions affect everyone around you, the butterfly effect.

[cunning cosmos]

Note. You cannot infact befriend the guest

[gleaming acorn]

Note; you can, in fact, befriend the guest

[trim reef]

scroll up

[cunning cosmos]

In prototype 3, maybe. But not in pre alpha

So no, you cannot befriend the guest

[gleaming acorn]

you got pre-alpha early or somethin?

[cunning cosmos]

Nikita's words

[gleaming acorn]

i suppose i missed them, then

[night vigil]

I’m petty sure Nikita confirmed it. Plus, the guest literally kills you in pre-alpha

[gleaming acorn]

sad :(

[gleaming acorn]

yeah, but what if i WANT to be friends with the bloodthirsty forest dweller :(

[cunning cosmos]

No guest friend):

[trim reef]

The world of HN3 is super diverse, and if done right will become what they’ve always aimed for with the Hello Neighbor franchise.

For years we’ve been told about the profound AI they were trying to achieve, dynamic and adaptive.

If they can pull this off, HN3 will go down in history.

[cunning cosmos]

He's such a cool lil guy

[night vigil]

You can still try, see what happens

[cunning cosmos]

I want him as a friend so badly

[night vigil]

He would be a good bud 100%. I can fix him !!!

[cunning cosmos]

My boi Aaron, he's still in there

Surely

[trim reef]

I do not believe the guest will always kill you, as Nikita said before—they don’t want it to feel like a defeat when you die, but rather another chance towards the end, another mistake you’ll learn to avoid and adapt to.

[haughty tide]

it's kinda odd that you can befriend the guest in the prototype 3 but not the vandals.

[bronze phoenix]

he will kill us???

[night vigil]

Well yeah, you can escape from “his grasp” He said something about the guest not being as aggressive as well

[cunning cosmos]

You could befriend the vandals in p3, they just have to see you helping them repeatedly + giving them stuff

[bronze phoenix]

the guest named "the visitor" seems so wrong and so right to me idk why?

[night vigil]

Yeah, he was very open about that. He said something about “The guest kills” or som like that idk

[trim reef]

Yes, the vandals are very to themselves—and take a while to open up and trust you/others.

[haughty tide]

i did tried giving them the statue parts but they didn't want it.

[cunning cosmos]

Yeah its tricky sometimes

[bronze phoenix]

this is Pre alpha gas station?

[night vigil]

Yeah

[haughty tide]

yeah and i feel like it's a bug.

[trim reef]

More oftenly they’d prefer other goods (tape, food, tools, etc)

[haughty tide]

uh no.

[cunning cosmos]

The super market?

[bronze phoenix]

nikita said with this image "i made some changes to it"

[trim reef]

Says “Supermarket” not “Gas station”

[night vigil]

Camera to flash guest is back yipeee

[trim reef]

Golden Apple Supermarket

[cunning cosmos]

Yee, theres improved decorations and signs and stuff(:

[trim reef]

Bananas

[night vigil]

As you can clearly see, it’s a gas station, obviously, hence the sign saying “supermarket”

[trim reef]

Indeed, totally.

[bronze phoenix]

does that mean that this is Pre alpha location?

[trim reef]

notice how the tops of the trees are just… flat? could that have any importance or relevance to the storm?

[cunning cosmos]

..Yeah its the same map as prototype 3, it just has a few slight changes

[bronze phoenix]

will the goal even be escaping the town or repairing the statue or both?

[night vigil]

So far we know there’s: The Church, Post Office. Yeah, I think that’s it

[night vigil]

From what I gathered, I think it’ll be something completely different, but I could be wrong

[trim reef]

I wonder if there are any changes to the role of Theodore in the pre-alpha. I know we see him at the end, but thats about it. Nikita replied to me saying that we would see more of him, but I don’t know when or if we will see him more or less in the pre-alpha

[cunning cosmos]

It'll be different, youll see

[bronze phoenix]

also nikita confirmed we cannot friend the neighbor

at least in pre alpha

[trim reef]

Sounds about right

[cunning cosmos]

Pretty sure they were there in p3 too

[cunning cosmos]

I could be wrong

[night vigil]

Pretty sure that’s because that man’s to far gone to want friends

[trim reef]

Definitely

[bronze phoenix]

how did raven brooks adapt Golden apple/

[trim reef]

I wonder who runs the supermarket

[cunning cosmos]

What?

[trim reef]

All buildings have owners

[bronze phoenix]

also nikita said we will see more cutscenes/gameplay of the neighbor in future versions but prob not pre alpha

[bronze phoenix]

i mean like how did raven brooks the town made the idea of golden apple to be in thier town

[night vigil]

Pretty sure it’s still just Janusz

[eager glade]

Whats going onn

[cunning cosmos]

Aright ima hit the sack

[bronze phoenix]

hn3

[eager glade]

New stuff?

[bronze phoenix]

yea\

[eager glade]

Ah

[cunning cosmos]

Cya guys

[trim reef]

I wonder if any of the lore of the death of his wife and kids will be investigated in the final version.

[cunning cosmos]

Not really

[night vigil]

Not really

[cunning cosmos]

Lmao

[bronze phoenix]

prob not the game will just be a simulation

lore will be here and there

but not big lore drops

also

WTRB showed us the lore of his wife and kids

[eager glade]

that's sad

[cunning cosmos]

Big company that produces a candy named golden apples, it was founded in raven brooks and because of its popularity, the town grew

[cunning cosmos]

Yeah/:

[bronze phoenix]

Strange he says the guest kills but we dont know why or how

[opaque summit]

i wonder what that red sign says

[trim reef]

I noticed that too, probably nothing important—probably saying its closed, meaning we’ll probably need to find another way in.

[opaque summit]

i just noticed it

[celest plank]

maybe cause he's a 7ft tall monster roaming in the forest

[night vigil]

Pretty sure the guest kills because he can. And yes, that is a very lame explanation as too why he kills, but if there’s a motivation as to why he kills exactly, we dont know it yet. And it’s also because it’s either a very tall human psychopath pretending to be a monster, or an actual monster.

Literally begging we learn more about the guest in this one. We know basically nothing

[lunar trail]

Wouldnt the only time Guest wasnt killing be just the HN2 Alphas?

I mean i dont think it's much surprising that Guest kills nowadays

[high brook]

Speaking of guest killing I wonder if he will kill anyone in the AS s3

I’m sure HE gets killed though judging by that one teaser

Also I think s3 will have some hn3 connections

[tawny tendon]

I don't think so ngl

[wicked moth]

I wonder if Nikita will show us another pre alpha teaser, I'd love to see another video!

[thick tendon]

I think the main character in HN3 is Leon Kennedy. He confused Raven Brooks with Raccoon City

[trim trout]

Bro if Leon was in HN3💀💀💀

[near hawk]

I thought he said that about the neighbor.

[near hawk]

Not as fast iirc.

[tawny tendon]

He said it about the guest from what I remember

And how he ends your session

[near hawk]

He said that about the guest, not that we won't befriend the guest, or at least i haven't seen that about the guest

[tawny tendon]

..w

[near hawk]

I mean yeah it would be odd to befriend someone that wants to murder You

[tawny tendon]

What does him killing you have to do with befriending him

[near hawk]

Ohh.
I understand now.

[tawny tendon]

Frigid

You replied to a message about him killing the player

😭

[near hawk]

Waitforit's first part of the message was about that we won't befriend the guest

No

[near hawk]

"i'm pretty sure Nikita confirmed it" when they were talking specifically about befriending him.

Hence how before they mention the killer guest, it's a "plus"

[tawny tendon]

Oooh okay

I might also be stupid

😔

Wait ?

I think that's the reply order 😭

Considering they didn't directly reply to anything

[near hawk]

Okay well in any case time for me to check out If we know whether guest is friendable or nah

[night vigil]

Literally discussing how the reply section went down because there were no direct replies to anything is really funny

[near hawk]

Yeah idk i'm not finding anything that says that he won't be friendable.
Only seeing that for the neighbor.

[crystal hare]

Did he come back to find his wife??

[thick tendon]

You confuse it with silent hill

[near hawk]

He probably will.

[near hawk]

He wasn't the one killed in the teaser most likely, that looked more like a cult member, didn't notice the sweater or anything on him.

[crystal hare]

Never played it btw

[tawny tendon]

😒

You make us fight for nothing /j

[near meadow]

The fact the team genuinely is passionate about this project makes me so reasured for this game

[tawny tendon]

Fraud Ultrakill?

Ok sorry

[pale thicket]

Hellouuu

[celest plank]

yeah youre right battery acid

[chilly sundial]

Does anyone know if the neighbor will be in the pre-alpha?

[near hawk]

I don't but i think someone does.

Nikita

[tall sorrel]

most likely

[wild girder]

Are there any sort of rewards or something like that after beating the main story planned for the full release? (Like a cheat mode or endless sandbox mode that removes the timer or other stuff like that)

[severe merlin]

Too early to say.
Btw, timer can not be "removed" due to how game works. There is no timer.
Its just time frame during which bots trying to reach their goals by following external parameters like time of day and circumstances in surrounding.
If we imagine that time just continue going, after all goals are reached - characters will have nothing to do.
It's no a timer limit. There's just nothing exist outside of the given time frame.

[wicked moth]

Nikita, why was Iris scrapped in the pre-alpha? Any specific reason?

[wild girder]

Oh. Also, you mentioned in Devlog 2 that the time frame will take place over the course of multiple in game days spanning across several real-time hours. Is that still the plan or has the time frame been shortened down? (for instance, 3 in game days over the course of just 1 real time hour)

[near hawk]

They didn't find a purpose in the story for her yet.

[bronze phoenix]

yo i got a question

if anyone knows

it

[severe merlin]

That was initial idea. For now it seems too much for how the game works.
It's going to be more compact experience. 1.5 in-game days spanning 30 real-time minutes (-ish)

[bronze phoenix]

Will Pre alpha be longer then Proto 3? or the same or shorter?

[wild girder]

Also, when it resets, will we go back to the bus stop? It could get repetitive having to go from there back into the town every time.

I'm still a little confused seeing as it seems like it's going to seamlessly reset.

[severe merlin]

Depends on how you play it

[bronze phoenix]

yeah but like a normal run

what i mean by normal run

is like

when u know

what to do

[severe merlin]

due to story and gameplay changes, you start from the main square (not the bus stop)

[timid berry]

game is 36 minutes long isn't it? starting at 06:00 am, and ending is at 12:00 am next day. if you haven't done it little bit earlier, today i finished game by Theodor Ending at ~10:00 am 2nd day

[severe merlin]

It's really hard to say

[timid berry]

so game will be like in chapters?

[severe merlin]

No

[bronze phoenix]

i dont think so

[timid berry]

like first game was in acts

[timid berry]

acts? like first game

[wild girder]

That will make it so much better and easier! I'm really happy about that because I was getting frustrated having to run back into the town every time in prototype 3

[severe merlin]

No, nothing like that

[bronze phoenix]

Will the Neighbor run from us or chase us

[timid berry]

ok

[bronze phoenix]

people keep spreading rumors

saying

he will chase us

or

[wild girder]

Definitely chase

[bronze phoenix]

lots of people said he will run from us tho

i dont know which

[timid berry]

btw, will we in full game discover who the Guest is? or something about his lore

will he even have his arc

[wild girder]

I don't understand why he would run away.

[severe merlin]

Yes

[bronze phoenix]

cause he has a hiding spot

does that mean

he will try to hide?

i really dont understand

[wild girder]

I think he's going to stay in that hiding place but I'm not sure.

I think it's going to be kinda like in the original plan in HN2 when he was hiding in the grey manor.

[bronze phoenix]

yeah but he will DEF be outside

listien i got a whole idea

maybe he works like the guest in alpha 1 hello guest

where

he would

follow us

but when we look at him

he would run

and he will try to make us fail

to leave

[wild girder]

That would be interesting but I feel like that would interfere with this whole butterfly effect concept.

[bronze phoenix]

it would make sense

cause other npcs act like

this

doing weird stuff

[wild girder]

Their behaviour doesn't change depending on if they're inside or outside, they just go and do whatever they need to do for their goals.

[bronze phoenix]

so the neighbor goal

is to take down the statue

[wild girder]

Stuff only changes if you interfere with their jobs which causes a butterfly effect. It doesn't completely shift how they work. (Or I don't think it does at least. This is really complicated to explain)

[bronze phoenix]

no matter what

[wild girder]

We don't know what the neighbor is trying to do. All we know is that he won't be roaming around the town like the others and that he has his own unique gameplay mechanics kinda like The Guest.

[bronze phoenix]

no like he trys to take down the statue and if we interfer he will do the idea i said

[wild girder]

That was a message I was typing before you were talking about the Neighbor's goals.

I'm starting to get lost in this conversation.

[near hawk]

He doesn't really look like he could run tbf

[wild girder]

In short. I think The Neighbor is going to be like in the original game where he's going to be staying at his hideout and we have to do the traditional HN style breaking and entering gameplay of sneaking around the hideout trying to avoid him.

I wonder if it's going to be easier to save people from The Guest seeing as he permanently kills them now.

[untold grotto]

so the player is not a newcomer now?

[near meadow]

1: Is it like a plot twist like “It was him or her the entire time!?!”

Or is it like some character we learn about over time as we progress the game?

If you could predict the reaction of the fanbase, how would you put it in 2 words?

2: does the person running around as the guest have a sad backstory or a middle ground? Maybe something creepy as a backstory but not sad?

[untold grotto]

or its like the player starts from bus stop in the first run but in the other sessions they start from main square

[unborn fox]

This is such a revelation, but I thought the cartoon was going to portray that.

[severe merlin]

Player is a newcomer

[near hawk]

Cartoon Guest is different from HN3 Guest btw

[near meadow]

What i mean by that is will the identity reveal be a plottwist surprise moment? Or something we learn way over time as we keep playing through each cycle

[severe merlin]

I don’t give comments on story, sorry

[untold grotto]

cartoon will explain Alex and AS writers' the guest

while hn3 is explaining its own guest

[near hawk]

As Nikita said, he doesn't know the Guest from HN2/AS

[near meadow]

We know that the neighbor was tied to the guest in some way every story the guest was in, will the neighbor still be tied to the guest jn hn3?

[near hawk]

For HN3 there aren't really many hints to tie them together.
Except like, If you stretch it, they both have more normal colours in comparision to the others

[wicked moth]

Nikita, who is Isaac going to be living with in the pre-alpha now that Iris is gone?

[severe merlin]

He is not in pre-Alpha. His part of the story will be added later. Unfortunately we don’t have infinite resources for pre-Alpha

[lunar trail]

Is anyone else has been cut from Pre-Alpha specifically?

I mean other than Iris and Isaac

[near meadow]

I wonder if I can share some ideas on missing posters….I feel like the missing posters should look more uncanny with the idea that the “Guests” kill. I like the old isaac missing posters because it gives off the uneasy feeling that the guest didn’t just “kill” basically, but it feels like the “death” was brutal.

Looking at the weird creepy missing poster, I have the uneasy feeling like the death was horrific and brutal to the point the body can’t even be found.

I feel like the missing posters should lean to the idea that those people DID not just get kidnapped. But you know they died horrifically. It would create such a creepy juxtaposition between the peaceful neighborhood, with the comfortable environment while these uncanny missing posters are just hanged up everywhere.

Like adding sudden uncanny realism to the characters on the missing posters for some, for others, it can be blacking out the eyes with a rectangle, or some can have a straight, creepy stare at the camera with oddly more “realistic” eyes compared to what they look like ingame. All of the individual character’s missing posters looking different and unique from each other while looking “Odd” while giving off the vibe that they died horribly would be such a cool idea

[eager glade]

I feel like it's just them cuz since their sibling they're story isn't in pre alpha

[lunar trail]

I mean Isaac was a big part of the story in Prototype 3, I wonder how much has changed for Pre-Alpha then

[near hawk]

Yes, but Iris is unknown If She will return, Isaac we know will

[eager glade]

Like the kidnapping thing?

I think they removed that

right?

[lunar trail]

I was replying to Browny

[near hawk]

Removed what?

The statue?

[eager glade]

The saving and kidnapping thing

[near hawk]

Guest kidnapping?

[eager glade]

Replaced it with just dead

[near hawk]

Yeah they have afaik

[eager glade]

Idk what's Isaacs big part of the story I think it was him getting kidnapped

[near hawk]

He was used as a sacrifice and the Guest was about to like

Take off his beak in front of him or smth

[eager glade]

Oh yeahhh

[lavish ravine]

Question about the beginning of the game's creation: Before the current story and gameplay style, was there anything different from what we have today? (Was there another story or another mission that we had to complete?)

[near hawk]

Isaac is special

[eager glade]

most of the story in prototype 3 was iris and issac and isaac gets into a ritual but now that they're removed in pre alpha whos story could we expect

[high brook]

i think hn3 should have the devlog music in it as ost (i know its not happening)

[eager glade]

not to mention a different goal instead of statue

[near hawk]

Well, the statue thing isn't the main goal now

[untold grotto]

no isaac

[high brook]

goodbye issac! hello neighbor!

[wicked moth]

Wait what, but I thought Isaac was key to the core story, and there was an updated model of him. Did you remove him after the model was made? Just curious.

[high brook]

now they got a reason for isaac missing posters (and iris maybe)

[near hawk]

He'll be added later.

[spiral atlas]

He's not removed from the game he's just removed from this build, he will appear in the future.

[high brook]

i wonder what isaacs old design looked like, maybe we might get to see

[untold grotto]

so its like

pre alpha has less content than prototype

?

[high brook]

yea? whats wrong with that?

[near hawk]

I think the reason Isaac won't be is due to lack of resources

That's what i thought was being implied

[high brook]

what "resources" ?

im confused

[near hawk]

This is what Nikita means when talking abt resources

[high brook]

yea that makes sense

im glad they arent resorting to ai

like some people would

[lunar trail]

how would they even resort to ai on this?

[high brook]

like

uhh

actually idk

imagine the guest is the neighbor (again)

[stoic shore]

no

[agile kelp]

guest in hello neighbor 3 is robot taxidermist

[eager glade]

it's patch 10

[near hawk]

The Guest in HN3 is patch 11

He is only patch 10 in HN2.
/J

[modest canopy]

Nikita, are you planning on adding camera stabilization to future HN3 builds? I literally get motion sickness, and so do a couple of my friends, when I walk around this city. It's uncomfortable to move around when everything is constantly tilted and the angle is constantly changing.

[severe merlin]

When game developed it’s happening in phases. You don’t do everything all at once. You go first with the highest priority for current phase. So, Issac is not in this phase.
Like furniture, for example. Most of the furniture is still in its blockout phase, not because it will stay this way, but because of priority.

[severe merlin]

Camera is stabilized. UE5’s characters are always stabilized

[eager glade]

Are there other items in final design yet like the flashlight

[cunning cosmos]

Will there be a bus driver? Or will it forever be a ghost bus?

If the bus is even relevant in the next versions ofc

[timid berry]

why Isaac? no....

why Isaac getting removed from pre-alpha? he was that hard for developers?

[molten trout]

priority

[timid berry]

but he was pretty important for plot didn't he?

[molten trout]

not for gameplay I guess

iris was and shes not in the pre alpha iirc

[limpid cosmos]

ngl. mr peterson should look like this in hello neighbor 3

[bold flint]

Slop

[limpid cosmos]

what?

[velvet fable]

AI

[limpid cosmos]

ik but im saying that he should look like that in the game

[bold flint]

No

[limpid cosmos]

okay. whatever u say

[high brook]

#ai-space

[limpid cosmos]

ik but im saying that he should look like that in the game

[swift fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[limpid cosmos]

i kinda miss his og style ngl

[lavish ravine]

Maybe Ninita can't answer this or maybe he skipped the question, but I'll ask again to be sure: before starting the development of the game (HN3), was there anything else planned in the story, or an original story with other characters, or another type of ending?

[timid berry]

No, he wouldn't match the new eerie style. I think what we saw in proto3 was better design.

[raven pilot]

it would not make sense, he is old and this one doesnt fit the artstyle

[chilly sundial]

hey nikita, what will the pre-alpha be about? will the neighbor be in the pre-alpha, and what will the player experience be like? will there be more npcs?

[broken galleon]

Folk 😭😭😭

[lavish ravine]

I think the neighbor as an NPC thing was somewhat understandable because they published this before Christmas:

[chilly sundial]

Nooo issac Why did they delete it? No, just more disaster again.

[timid berry]

Dammit. The whole family was deleted. I wonder what happened with Isaac and Iris parents

[obtuse hornet]

Worst opinion I have ever seen

• AI slop

[limpid cosmos]

Ok ok 👍 your opinions everyone

[violet vessel]

It's been a days for waiting hn3 came out🫩

[mighty orchid]

It’s more in the future so he looks more older and stuff.

[limpid cosmos]

OKAY, okay guys let’s now just stop with the opinions and arguments 😭

[mighty orchid]

I didn’t make an argument though I’m just putting that because I think that’s why he looks like that.

[daring forge]

He will be added back later. He just won’t be in the pre-alpha

[trim reef]

literally him in HN2

[limpid cosmos]

I mean the others

[civic totem]

I can' believe Isaac is gone

It's really funny that they expanded on Iris' family in P3 just to scrap it in the Pre-Alpha

[dark bison]

The Vandals have sacrificed Isaac

[civic totem]

They were successful this time

[trim trout]

Nooooo why

[chrome sun]

Oop

Noooo

Whyyy

Vandals how could you dolts

[main wharf]

Uhm

[broken galleon]

Okay

[knotty bone]

i feel hn3 is gonna massively differ from hn1+2

like

i know we are only in its early playable stages

but

i feel its not gonna be as fun as the set story of hn1 and 2

[stone elk]

Diffrent yes, how fun the game is depends on you

[molten trout]

it will be hn1 prolly not hn2

oh wait

read that wrong

but yeah it will have hn1 story stuff but prolly not the hn2 story stuff

at least the full game stuff

[topaz arch]

itll definitely be more horror based

[topaz arch]

true

[modest canopy]

I'm talking about those moments when the entire world is literally at an angle. This is a real problem for me and a couple of my friends; playing the game is very, very uncomfortable. disorientation occurs. Some people may be sensitive to this and simply not enjoy the game.😭 . For example, some people can't perceive a black and white picture because everything blurs for them and disorientation occurs (I have this problem in secret neighbor). It would be nice if there was a setting to compensate for tilt and camera angles. It's also really bad for people who get motion sickness. My friends who get motion sickness literally have a hard time playing the game.

And while it's static, it might not look so "problematic," but when i start moving and moving the mouse... it seems like the mouse is simply not working correctly

[opaque summit]

it can get a little weird running around corners in areas like that yeah

[wicked moth]

Hmm, I wonder if you start at the main square when resetting the cycles, or is there a thing where you originally start at eh bus stop, whih changes to the mains square after finishing the first story ui. (For instance, maybe after reaching the hotel for the first time, the start point becomes the main square.)

[low gate]

why is he AI vr neighbour

hes 3d model old neighbor

[severe merlin]

World of HN3 is very hilly and uneven. Just like in real life, when you stand on a slope, you would still stay vertical and be able to perceive angled surface.
I don’t see possible solution to this case, unfortunately

[severe merlin]

In pre Alpha you just start at the main square. Later, intro sections planned

[crystal hare]

Totally agree with you

It also would be cool to see a color correction setting for colorblind people

[queen sapphire]

Are you still going to rework the inventory?

[severe merlin]

Depends on what you mean by “rework”

[timid berry]

maybe adding 5th slot?

or ability to just hide item to use like empty hand, love when this is in games, inventory is full and you just press q or tab to empty hands, not drop any items

[versed ravine]

I'd like this as well, I dislike large bobbing items blocking my view sometimes

It just cleans up the screen and lets me see the world better

[queen sapphire]

Maybe adding some slots, and a tab where we can store found secret notes or pictures

[opaque summit]

i dont think that could work with how they want the sessions to work

since only your knowledge is left from previous sessions and not your actions

[tawny tendon]

So, Trail and Error?

[opaque summit]

yes

i guess

[tawny tendon]

Kinda one of my favorite kinds of games ngl

[thorn flax]

Hi Nikita, will the neighbor always walk with a shovel or take it at a certain moment? Walking around the house with a shovel is very strange

[tawny tendon]

Imo, he could just be using it as a makeshift cane or something

[thorn flax]

then what would the chase look like?

[pliant geode]

They better make hn3 better then hn2

[queen sapphire]

The shovel is a part of his model

[bronze phoenix]

im back

anyone here

[high brook]

What does Nikita mean by “main square?”

Like is it just the park area in the middle?

[blissful river]

I would assume he means this area.

[bronze phoenix]

he means the statue area in Proto 3

with the

Hotel

[near meadow]

What did you think of the missing poster idea I talked about earlier? 🥹

[severe merlin]

Can you link me to your message?

[near meadow]

Hn3

[near meadow]

Here

[severe merlin]

That's an interesting take on missing posters, you have!
For HN3 concept is a bit different. I can't tell you much without spoiling the story, but you'll get what I mean later, when you see what actual missing poster are going to look like (not in pre-Alpha, though)

[celest plank]

nikita is it intentional that rooms in the houses feel tight

idk at least to me

[near meadow]

So “a bit different” does this confirm the posters will somewhat look odd and uncanny from the actual characters then?

[severe merlin]

Hard to reply without spoiling stuff

[severe merlin]

There are not rooms. These are corridors 🙂

[celest plank]

no yeah im saying in general

[eager glade]

I hope some houses like theos house won't be so small so there is still a stealth and cool chasing thing

[celest plank]

i personally like how its sort of claustrophobic

we’re probably not meant to stay indoors for long

[near meadow]

We will see the guests identity in the story but I think we will see it earlier since the alpha story is the full gsme story

[chilly sundial]

hey nikita, what will the pre-alpha be about? will the neighbor be in the pre-alpha, and what will the player experience be like? will there be more npcs?

[timid berry]

So they also play some role in Plot?

What can be with them, so anything is spoiling....

[wicked moth]

I wonder now that "Child Isaac" isn't in the pre-alpha, that "Missing Isaac" will return. (I.e the Isaac only on missing posters)

[severe merlin]

you'll know everything after you play it, my friend 🙂

[chilly sundial]

Thanks bro

[near meadow]

Any steamdb updates?

[chilly sundial]

You can do it, Nikita! You'll make it! I'm your fan, hehe.

[night vigil]

Nope, but Nikita said they wanted to rework the steam page so something will happen at some point, i’m sure

[errant narwhal]

Hello, I don't want to bother, but I'm going to make a other drawing of the protagonist of hn3. Any ideas or theories to keep in mind for the new design

[lavish ravine]

Question about the pre-alpha performance: Will there be better graphics quality or will it be larger in GB in this version?

[loud karma]

Can we possibly get another look at the post office

[hoary heath]

Can you show us somewhere from pre alpha

[knotty bone]

Yea

[opaque summit]

hn3 is still not horror

[bronze steppe]

[eager glade]

will be kinda scary tho.

In a way

[arctic jolt]

I’m just wondering, will the console commands be in the pre alpha, and what happened to GreenHouseM13?

[cunning yacht]

I excited for pre alpha

[near meadow]

Oh yeah here’s visual reference of what I meant with this idea. Some from analog horror that go the uncanny route

[sand flare]

The actuall heck

[timid berry]

Paracetamol

[meager walrus]

yeahh no not this uncanny

[eager glade]

That jumped me but def we aren't getting this

[near hawk]

I'm sure biggest fraud L+ meant Something in the general direction of that, rather than outright that

[opaque summit]

i think id like if the people on the missing posters were completely straight faced and staring at the camera

[near hawk]

Especially Since they compared the Isaac poster to that, which is farisj from the exact thing, but still in the general idea, i would say

[eager glade]

Oh I thought it was them scary faces stuff

[near hawk]

Well i think that is what they meant.
Just not the same exact thing

[celest plank]

i rewatched the third devlog and its still so amazing

[modest island]

will the dog bark at 10:21 in the pre alpha

truly a ponderous topic

[night vigil]

The real important questions are finally being asked

[wild girder]

You mentioned a few months ago that there's going to be some sort of hub. Is that still planned? If so, will we learn more about it in Devlog 4?

[severe merlin]

No hub. We figured everything in a different way.

[wild girder]

Out of curiosity. How was the hub meant to work? What purpose would it serve?

Is it me or did that kinda rhyme?

[low gate]

It does

[loud karma]

i'm guessing for our first session, we start at the bus stop
and then in all other sessions we start in the cafe/motel

[night vigil]

That makes senses yeah. That already seems more like an actual new loop and not like an "Game Over"

[wicked moth]

Nikita, the intro sequence in P3 was really cool, but you could only see the first time you played the game. (Shortened one played after that.) I was a little disapointed by this, as the cutscene was so cool! Will the pre-alpha be the same or different?

[fluid portal]

I was going through the 3 prototypes and I'm not sure if you answered this question before, but why did you change how doors work after protoype 1?

[limpid cosmos]

Ok ok 👍 your opinions everyone

[opaque summit]

nikita wanted doors with physics from the start iirc

they existed in RBO

[fluid portal]

Then I guess why did he implement them how they are in prototype 1? Why did he want the physics based doors from then on?

[opaque summit]

he wanted them before p1

they just didnt add them yet

in p1 the basic AI was the priority

from what i remember

[celest plank]

i absolutely love the physics based doors

[opaque summit]

same

i wish it was easier to open them a bit less tho

so you could peek

[fluid portal]

I do too, it just feels weird to slam my head into them to open

[opaque summit]

i dont really care about that tho

i dont know how else they couldve made them

unless they did like they did in hn1

and i think hn1s doors suck

[celest plank]

yeah i always wanted that along with the physics based doors

[opaque summit]

same

[celest plank]

to me it makes more sense in a hn3 environment

[night vigil]

I love when they chase you in the buildings, and you have to just burst through the doors to escape.

[opaque summit]

ive never thought about that

but it sounds cool

[celest plank]

i hope breaking things will depend on what tool youre using

like for example something thats harder to break could require a better tool

you can literally pretty much destroy anything with screwdrivers

wait no not that

[opaque summit]

i hope they figure out some way of making the objects break visually rather than a bar

[fluid portal]

Like if wood structures broke quicker with a saw, or if glass would breaker easier with the sledge hammer and crowbar?

[celest plank]

yeah

[low gate]

whats this hub again

[wild girder]

A few months ago after prototype 3 released. Nikita said that there was going to be some sort of hub thing by a bonfire. However it has been scrapped and whatever purpose it would serve is being done in a different way.

[spiral spear]

Oh Nikita, while you're online, can you tell me whether there was a neighbor guest in the H2 Alpha 2 plot or not?

[raven pilot]

it would be cool if there was a little animation thing that your arm reached the handle when you open them so you dont just slam into it

an example is gta, your character arms reach the door when you are going to open them and the doors there are also physics based

[celest plank]

that was scrapped before alpha 2 iirc

[opaque summit]

it was in hg

[haughty tangle]

yo

i cant wait for hello neighbor 3

but the pre alpha is literally just prototype 3 but better

or

idk

[wild girder]

You do know you don't need to break your statement into several messages.

[haughty tangle]

sorry thats how i do it

[trim reef]

It’s fine

[wild girder]

I just find it a little odd is all but you do you I guess.

[violet vessel]

same it's been a days and it's still not came out

[sand flare]

U do know the full game is years away and they have barley had anytime to make pre alpha they are going really fast u do know it takes months or years to make a game right? So it's not just gonna come out in a few days they are working on it im sure it will come out soon.

[mighty orchid]

I’m not meaning to be rude but you put all of that but then said you’re sure it’ll come out soon. Are you meaning the pre alpha because otherwise that doesn’t really make sense to me.

[trim trout]

I think he meant the full game

[timid berry]

everything We know about Pre-Alpha and game at all:

Characters
• Iris and Isaac cuted out (only for pre-alpha as now)
• All character's models will be reworked and finished (except we haven't got Jacob and Iris yet)
• Finally player(protagonist) model will be shown and used (but still without item animations)
• by nails on hands being black, player might be a female character
• Janusz is/was married (he wears golden ring)
• Runes on character's clothes and on statue is not meaningless

Map of Raven Brooks
• one of buildings near Cabel Car is now Post Office and it's somehow important to plot, bcs it's yellow on the map (maybe we even could see someone new there)
• also somewhere also will be Church, and we don't know much about it
• on town map the entering gate is now shown (blue thing at it's place, was seen on one of the screenshots)
• interior was little bit more detailed

Items
• new feature - toy car on remote control: used to sneak into "Neighbors" houses (with it we might see the protagonist's face and fully look at her design)
• flashlight item model was updated and 'finished' ig
• also possible new item - camera (only show at advertisement poster near supermarket)

Gameplay
• we start at main square without cutscene
• plot might be different from building statue(s)
• protagonist have it's own lore and somehow connected to Raven Brooks
• Guest's name is not random it's has meaning of his story | not related to pre-alpha
• we need to play game "loop" a few times to complete the game | not related to pre-alpha
• not everyone needed to be "alive" to complete the game
• Guest is k1lling everyone and not just steal them
• Guest won't be that fast at the beginning
• Neighbor (Theodor Peterson) is still hiding after something | not related to pre-alpha
• character's skin color is normal to them and shows us loneliness of town | not related to pre-alpha

if i forgot smth, please reply. im gonna add it

[timid berry]

Updated my list

[bronze phoenix]

Will pre alpha release this year?

yo devs

I found a vid that is claiming they have Pre alpha

i think its fake

but ill leave the link

so u guys can see it for urselfsd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usvym6Sd66E

alr imma go sleep

[blissful river]

They are not claiming to have the pre-alpha, this is footage Nikita sent in this server.

[formal solar]

#hn3-discussion message

[daring forge]

1. I never have claimed that I have the pre-alpha (yes this is my channel).
2. It’s real gameplay.

[violet vessel]

yea I know it it's a full game but some of HN fans are still waiting for the new game

[low gate]

i thought the protag had no connections

[cobalt sable]

Nikita, hello! May I ask if the devlog and pre-alpha will be released before summer?

[celest plank]

mate what

i missed so much

[bronze steppe]

👀

[spiral spear]

Could you please explain what this means?

[idle narwhal]

Game canceled.
The end.

|| /j ||

[bronze steppe]

they made changes basically

so yea the new updated might come soon

[spiral spear]

Thank you

[lunar trail]

huh wait, they changed the public branch

[eager glade]

a sign

[bronze steppe]

looks like it but in steam nothing changed

[bronze steppe]

fr

[lunar trail]

I think it's because the playtest isnt open right now

but if it was open, it'd be the pre alpha i assume then

[timid berry]

i just wrote everything we know from nikita and stuff

[lunar trail]

it feels like its really close now

[bronze steppe]

fr

[eager glade]

huh so it could be almost done

[bronze steppe]

looks like it

[eager glade]

maybe next month or late this month

[bronze steppe]

i wish sooner

[lunar trail]

Maybe the build is done but devlog isn't yet

[eager glade]

i mean its the same map with some new buildings and remodels and some updates that didnt work out so yeah

[bronze steppe]

yea

[eager glade]

not sure about that

we got prototype 2 without a devlog i think

[lunar trail]

i mean i'd expect a devlog when jumping from prototypes to pre alpha tbh

[bronze steppe]

ngl is a big change

[eager glade]

we'll see

i hope there is tho

[keen hemlock]

i mean they already have a finished map, finished ai, finished characters, finished a lot of things

how long can pre alphas development take

[eager glade]

i hope there are more finished buildings

im so looking forward to the post office fsr

[keen hemlock]

i wanna see that church

[bronze steppe]

FRRR

MANN i HOPE pre alpha is more optimize ngl

[eager glade]

the church too myy ohm y

[bronze steppe]

i have a good pc but still i wasnt able to enjoy very well p3

[eager glade]

im sure it will

[spiral atlas]

I'm pretty sure this means nothing

The very bottom text means that this change happened for that many other games

[eager glade]

i didnt rlly have a problem

[eager glade]

oh thats sad

[celest plank]

i have a fridge sized 20th century pc i hope it will run the pre alpha

[spiral atlas]

Yeah I just checked to make sure

HN1 had the same exact thing happen to it

[keen hemlock]

oof

[spiral atlas]

This was just a steam thing, not an actual update

[eager glade]

aw

[spiral atlas]

Sorry to kill the hype y'all 😭

[eager glade]

its good were super close either way

[spiral atlas]

This is true

[bronze steppe]

is alr

[spiral atlas]

I wonder what they've been doing the last few days

Last teaser we got was like very recent according to Nikita

[bronze steppe]

yea

[keen hemlock]

well i hope the pre alpha releases by easter

[eager glade]

itll be like these hn2 patch updates but hn3 pre alpha cuz its the same map with extra location poi and other stuff

[keen hemlock]

but i think alex will wanna time the devlog with s3 and some movie news

[celest plank]

i really hope hn3 will let us pick between a female and a male protagonist

like hello guest

it was a cool feature

[eager glade]

the fact he says how locked in he is brings me to think that the movie teaser is by the end of s3

[keen hemlock]

yesssss

tho in hg that was relevant to the plot in hn3 it wouldn't work the same way

[eager glade]

that would be really cool

[spiral atlas]

Considering how high quality the last devlog was I wouldn't be surprised if this next one is what we're waiting on

The build is probably pretty close to being done

[celest plank]

i think it would work cause in hn3 we are new to the town so i dont think the character's gender would matter

not that i know anything tho

[eager glade]

i wonder if these exist till now

i hope theyre still actual locations

[celest plank]

i hope the foliage would at least be a tiny bit greener 😭

it sorta looks like a desert rn

i get that its early spring but like man

[eager glade]

is it js me or does this look kinda different

maybe its wet cuz of the rain

[celest plank]

youre overthinking

its lichally the same

[eager glade]

its prob js wet mb

[idle narwhal]

It is the lighting.

It is not the rain.

[west crag]

Honestly its just what early spring looks like irl
A couple weeks ago I walked through an area in my town that looked exactly like a part of the map in HN3 lol

[near meadow]

Nope. Won’t fit the artstyle but what we have looks far better anyways

[wicked moth]

So does that mean Jacob, Janunsz, and the Historian are the only citizens in pre alpha

[bronze steppe]

and dont forget the vandals

and the neighbor

[unborn fox]

What about

[bronze steppe]

o yeah him to

[eager glade]

oh

[eager glade]

kinda miss it but k

[wicked moth]

No, I meant like, the non vandal or special npcs

[unborn fox]

If so, yes

[near meadow]

I hope the steam page is updated on the day of the pre alpha release

After all the banner was updated when prototype 2 released

[bronze steppe]

i mean ofc it will be updated lol

[near meadow]

Hey nikita, I just wanna say your artstyle is one of the best things i’ve seen come from hello neighbor. YOUR artstyle for the 3rd game.

The previous artist was nice, true no disrespect, but I think your style is more unique and just better.

And also, one last question, will the steampage be updated on the pre alpha’s release? Has nothing to do with release dates.

[bronze phoenix]

ohhhhh alright

guys if u take a look here the items here are redesigned or at least Shaded

[eager glade]

I've never seen such misinformation in my life

[near hawk]

The YouTuber didn't claim to own pre Alpha btw

[eager glade]

im talking about the other guy that said it was fake

[near hawk]

Oh i see

[bronze phoenix]

u mean me?

[modest elm]

Is it true that Beatrice will be the main character in Part 3?

[tawny tendon]

Huh?

[bronze phoenix]

no

beatrix is a scrapped charather from Hello Guest

she is playable

in the alpha

[near hawk]

I'm pretty sure the main character is Smeeth though?

[bronze phoenix]

We dont know

[near hawk]

Adam confirmed that on Tumblr

[bronze phoenix]

how long ago was it

[modest elm]

one of the screenshots shows a woman's hand

[near hawk]

He also said that Jacob is the main antagonist in HN3

[bronze phoenix]

thats so wrong

[near hawk]

2 hours ago iirc

[bronze phoenix]

No bro

[modest elm]

Betaris is a female character from Hello Guest

[bronze phoenix]

YEa

[near hawk]

Looks more like the hand of a dog but okay

[tawny tendon]

Why do we keep misspelling her name 😭

[near hawk]

Pretty sure Quentin is the female character

[bronze phoenix]

i dont know if ur sarcastic or not

[near hawk]

Betraxishsetwqlik was the Male one

[bronze phoenix]

idk

[bronze phoenix]

lol

[tawny tendon]

Frigid just does that dw

[bronze phoenix]

Btw

yall

[near hawk]

Yh yh i am kidding.

[bronze phoenix]

who is adam btw

is he a dev

[near hawk]

He was a Dev iirc but now works free lance.
Not sure exactly actually, so don't take what i Say with a grain of salt

[unkempt sable]

hey

[bronze phoenix]

ok now i know what

u see

[near hawk]

Mad eye yokai, he goes by in here

Adam, i mean

[bronze phoenix]

get ur info from Nikita

cause

There is no way jacob is the main villain

if he was

[tawny tendon]

Nikita doesn't rlly reveal that much, he probably wants us to find this kind of stuff on our own or so

[near hawk]

May someone confirm or debunk this theory?

[near hawk]

He's not, i was joking

Jacob is probably just a mechanic with a dream.

[modest elm]

my assumption is that she might be the main character

[tawny tendon]

Nah

[celest plank]

no the hn3 protagonist will be a brand new character

[modest elm]

@celest plank You can't be sure of that.

[celest plank]

its confirmed

[unkempt sable]

Hi Nikita! I love Hello Neighbor. Do you have any plans for Mr. Peterson in Hello Neighbor 3?

[untold grotto]

he was video producer of tB during hn2s development, but hes a freelancher right now

[eager glade]

hard to say since I've been toughin for so long.

[modest elm]

@eager glade I'm speaking through an interpreter, and he couldn't translate your phrase.

[untold grotto]

oh wait no that was a change happened in all of apps

[eager glade]

What

[idle narwhal]

She would be around 50 or 60 at the time of HN3.

[modest elm]

what is the time gap between the parts?

in theory, part 2 is an urban legend

[idle narwhal]

If Peterson was 50 in HN1/ 2 and 85 in HN3, then it must be 35 years.

[untold grotto]

(1996-2028)

[bronze phoenix]

Everything i know of in Pre alpha
first is that there is a New RC car item that we can ride Prob
also Iris and Issac will be cut from the game
the guest will now kill people
There is a new Post office Area
We will spawn in the main square instead of bus stop
Player Design will be revealed

[near hawk]

Statue isn't the main goal now

[modest elm]

in the second part, she is 24 years old

[bronze phoenix]

alr let me add that

[near hawk]

Source?

[idle narwhal]

Not confirmed.

[bronze phoenix]

Everything i know of in Pre alpha
first is that there is a New RC car item that we can ride Prob
also Iris and Issac will be cut from the game
the guest will now kill people
There is a new Post office Area
We will spawn in the main square instead of bus stop
Player Design will be revealed
Statue fixing will not be the main goal
You wont need all npcs to Win (updated)

[idle narwhal]

• She was most likely dead in HN2.

[modest elm]

when?

[idle narwhal]

Again, in Hello Neighbor 2.

[near hawk]

The forest section has a coffin with a Beatrix newspaper, about how she went simming

I personally do think she's alived

Might be coping atp idk

[bronze phoenix]

Guys i will make a video in my channel about Predicting what will be the next features in pre alpha and beyond

see ya

[near hawk]

Oh yeah this can't be the case because the HN3 protagonist is a Stranger to Raven Brooks

[modest elm]

Quentin died, and nothing was said about her

[near hawk]

When did Quentin die?

[modest elm]

If we didn't see it, it didn't happen - the law of games

[idle narwhal]

Well, we don't know if Quentin died.
The ending is pretty open + there is a newspaper snipplet in the forest that says that Beatrix went missing when playing with her brother.

[modest elm]

Quentin died at an amusement park