hn3-discussion

[ionic spear]

i think, 3 gb

cuz, prototype looks very big and very good graphics

They might have been inspired by HG.

[earnest cape]

What’s up chat.

[ionic spear]

yo wtsp

[earnest cape]

Saw some stuff on P2 Nikita said.

Seems like it’s going to be fun.

[ionic spear]

I think so too

It will be fun to knock the characters down with oil

my english broken

[earnest cape]

Yeah lol.

[ionic spear]

prototype 2 looks very fun.

Something caught my attention, there is music at the beginning of the video that I have never heard before

[gentle pebble]

It’s new OST

[atomic forge]

Will the Forest Dweller have a new model in P2?

[loud karma]

me when i step on the spicy liquid that makes you ragdoll

[gentle pebble]

Maybe they might update it but the forest protector is the guest

[celest plank]

no

its a placeholder for the guest

[atomic forge]

Are you sure?

I just didn't see a confirmation of this

[fast mason]

forest dweller wont be updates as nikita said

they are keeping this placeholder for now

prob till like alpha time

[hidden patrol]

So why.The AI of the forest dwellers is already good

[fast mason]

it doesnt have any thats why its so good

[waxen portal]

awww I didn't get to play the first prototype

hopefully the second comes soon

[fast mason]

prob later this month or next month

[atomic forge]

Nvm, I just read a HN wiki

[quartz canopy]

yeah lol

it just teleports when a character stays inside an area with no lights for too long

[dawn sail]

says the guy with a thanos pfp

[agile kelp]

Ok

Thanos is far more superior than a not massive meme

[iron heath]

i should be making the new OST fr

(im joking)

[agile kelp]

hmmmmmmmmm maybe it could be new

[limpid pewter]

i hope in hn3 when you enter a house you dont run slower like hn2

[restive oxide]

I hope so too

[blazing cloud]

How do I get the 2nd prototype?

[restive oxide]

It's not out

[blazing cloud]

damn

[cunning yacht]

to pass time we needed play our favourite games.

im guessing hello neighbor

[proud glade]

Will HN3 allow the player to inhabit a house in the town that has been abandoned? I think that functionality was planned for RBO previous and it would add a lot more depth to the game so that you can see how the town develops around you. You could decorate the house with items you find around the town, adjust the layout of the house with resources you find, build a vegetable patch to grow food that can give you certain perks etc. Friendly AIs could come visit your house from time to time. During the nighttime, AIs that dislike you could try to sneak into your house on certain nights to steal items. It would be very cool if your character goes to rest of the night and an alarm goes off, you get woken up and then you need to creep around your house in the dark trying to find a character stealing items from your house and catch them.

[celest plank]

thats not the point of the game

so i doubt it

[proud glade]

Why’s that? Having your own house was originally planned in RBO. It would make the town feel much more alive if the AIs came at night to steal from you too. Also you could then upload your house and have friends try to break in and steal items as part of challenges (with the house protected by one of the AIs).

[celest plank]

well the town is abandoned so it cant be really alive

and iirc the nights wont be short

[ionic spear]

Good idea but I don't think it will be in the full game.

[severe merlin]

You are not. No worries 🙂

[severe merlin]

Even though it’s an interesting concept, the gameplay of HN3 is a totally different thing. Look at it more like Outer Wilds, but with much longer timeframe and world around you is simulated in real-time (oppose to being predetermined like in Outer Wilds).

[gentle pebble]

Hello Nikita in the future would there be a modkit like the HN 1 modkit for HN3

[ionic spear]

Unfortunately, he is offline

[proud glade]

Thanks for the response. Would that be a concept you would consider for a HN1 remake or spin off game?

[severe merlin]

This is something I would love for us to have. But for now our focus is to make an awesome game.

[pastel basin]

nikita, hows prototype 2 going

[gentle pebble]

yes I hope it becomes awesome game

[severe merlin]

It’s great 🙂

[tender stump]

anything in particular you guys are happy about compared to prototype 1?

[bronze steppe]

glad to heard that ngl

[severe merlin]

Don’t know where to start, honestly. Of course I am biased to judge, but it’s a crazy step from P1. Team did an amazing job, it’s such an awesome prototype.

[bronze steppe]

cannot wait to play it

[tender stump]

one thing im definitely happy about is that the days are longer in prototype 2. always felt like a race against time in prototype 1

[bronze steppe]

thats true ngl

[frosty gyro]

Proto 2 looks like everything I've wanted from proto 1

[atomic forge]

Hello Nikita, will the model of Forest Dweller have any changes?

[gentle pebble]

In the alphas or P3 will the cars have a updated model with a radio, steering wheel, etc

[tender stump]

i think thats too early to tell, but it would be super funny if you could drive the car yourself lol

not sure how they would do that without it being incredibly buggy though

[frosty gyro]

I dont think ridable cars will be making a return

[severe merlin]

Object details is not a priority now

[tender stump]

return? since when did they even exist in the first place

[frosty gyro]

In rbo pre alpha it existed

[small goblet]

Hello Nikita, will we see the residents of Raven Brooks from Hello Neighbour 2 in 3?

[cyan vale]

GUYS CHECK https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/768152883765444608

[severe merlin]

It’s an interesting thing to have. But it brings indeed many challenges. Will see if gameplay benefits outweigh the challenges for us.

[ionic spear]

hi nikita, Will there be more prototypes in hn3?

[pastel basin]

yes

on average how long did it take for people to do everything in p2?

[atomic forge]

When do you plan to release P2

[wet fiber]

will characters eventually get their own unique animations to further show their personality? (for example, things like the exercising task in p2 have the characters use the same animation if I’m not mistaken)

[severe merlin]

It’s hard to say. Especially what is considered “everything”. I personally played at least 10 hours and I did do “everything”. It’s really personal. Simple answer might be 3 to 15 hours. But it reeealy depends on many factors.

[pastel basin]

woah

[gentle pebble]

In P2 the No Signal Bar is missing that was in P1 so was it removed because of the teasers or what?

[old pawn]

hey Nikita, why do the new characters have different skin colors? is it just because the unhomeliness appearance or something else too?

[nimble walrus]

Will there be type of "feature" where AI in first trow slows down player and then within 15 seconds or idk another trow the player gets ragdolled.

[severe merlin]

It’s a way to achieve certain feel, unhomeloness and other stuff

[tender stump]

will prototype 2 have more consumables like the banana?

also, is the gas station still a thing?

[old pawn]

Oh okay, ty for replying

[pastel basin]

i think we already saw more

like a cupcake

and a bar

[wet fiber]

do you have a personal favorite character in terms of personality? (not asking for any reveals, just curious what you think)

[severe merlin]

I do not want to reveal stuff about P2 so everyone will have a joy of exploring it

[ionic spear]

well, Will there be different mechanics like climbing mechanics in hn3?

[severe merlin]

I do not have favorites. I look at this whole thing as a whole.

[oblique parcel]

i really like signed so far

[wet fiber]

jacob’s my favorite so far

[tender stump]

personally really excited to ever see covered in the game

[ionic spear]

signed is my fav

[severe merlin]

We are not sure about climbing yet

[ionic spear]

oh no

[oblique parcel]

iris i think is also cool altough i think her placeholder model don.t do her true justice no offense ofc

[tender stump]

does iris have her hair shader yet?

[oblique parcel]

but her newer design looks really well

[atomic forge]

Are you planning to make it so that the player can pick up almost every object (like in HN1) or only quest items (like in HN2)?

[keen hemlock]

I want to get my eyeballs on p2

[mystic topaz]

will sliding come back it was one of the early teasers for RBO

[severe merlin]

Nope. As I said prior, visual details are not priority now

[oblique parcel]

Also just wanna ask is Signed voice actor the same from hg?

[frosty gyro]

Same

[severe merlin]

Nope

[oblique parcel]

Damn they sound pretty similar

[wet fiber]

i hope we’ll actually get to know who voices the characters in the full game. hn2 doesn’t show any iirc

[severe merlin]

It’s like HN1

[ionic spear]

Will there be drivable items like cars in the game?

[oblique parcel]

They dont know yet i Think

[nimble walrus]

Will there be someday stamina bar for the player?

[oblique parcel]

I hope not

Pls no

[low gate]

So whats the next step in Prototype 3? what is it really supposed to like test and such.

[severe merlin]

Nope

[atomic forge]

Yess!!! I like it! Thanks for answering Nikita! Have a good day

[tepid flicker]

I really really hope mantling is added, it was one of the best things about HN2.

[mystic topaz]

I agree it was very helpful

[tender stump]

i would like to see window vaulting from hn1, not sure if i would really care too much about the climbing from hn2

[ionic spear]

I think a more advanced version should come. Like in Uncharted climb mechanic

[severe merlin]

The butterfly effect

[wet fiber]

this is a really random thing, but could there also be drink items alongside the food? they wouldn’t do anything different, probably. just for variety

[low gate]

Cool

[frosty gyro]

Oh

[tepid flicker]

Wow, 8 upvotes almost immediately

[tender stump]

what would the main step for prototype 2 be then?

[oblique parcel]

I Think stealth and ai behavior

Not sure though

[wet fiber]

ai behaviors

[mystic topaz]

a bit of an odd question but will there be certain foods that will give us different effects (like speed or something like that)

[nimble walrus]

Vaulting was super useful

[mystic topaz]

I think the banana made us faster in p1

[frosty gyro]

Indeed

[ionic spear]

i think, should added chocolate for fast

[tender stump]

really cool to see butterfly effect being the next big thing though, it personally affected my life in crazy ways

[nimble walrus]

Nah, better idea: Coffee which makes you faster

[atomic forge]

Now we just need a puserkarmet with food

[mystic topaz]

that'd be cool to have idk if they'll implement a currency system

[tender stump]

i suggested a trading system so long ago, i really hope thats something they do in the future. would give shops / gas station a proper use too

[severe merlin]

There are some pros and cons to it.
Pros:

• you have extra freedom of movement

Cons:

• It really complex mechanic to support and develop
• it takes away players natural freedom of platforming and exploring in unconventional ways. Since climbing do many stuff for you basically. If there is no HN2-style climbing, game got it be built such way so natural platforming is interesting and rewarding, because you feel you actually did it.

[atomic forge]

I was just joking, but it's interesting idea

[mystic topaz]

yeah

[nimble walrus]

And maybe banana could be eaten and the peal could be put on floor so you can ragdoll the AI

[severe merlin]

For now all food gives a speed boost

[oblique parcel]

I Do Think Window vaulting Should be a Thing at least where you climb inside automatically than having to jump perfectly

[mystic topaz]

trading was one of their ideas for RBO but ofc since the game changed from being multiplayer to single player unless you meant if we could trade with AIs

[tepid flicker]

I'm not sure what you mean by the first con, as it was handled incredibly well in HN2 by the programmers and animators.
I understand how you want unconventional exploration to be a thing, but omitting the feature entirely because of that wish is arguably a bad move (no pun intended) for players.

[nimble walrus]

There was some problems with it, like: You could skip with spam jumping and it would instantly teleport you to the top.

[tender stump]

i mean i dont think they can just copy and paste that code

hn3s player is probably built differently

[tepid flicker]

Nowhere did I say they should do that.

[tepid flicker]

That's not how it worked in HN2.

[old pawn]

The climbing feature in HN2 feels very nice, in HN1 stacking boxes was sometimes annoying imo

[severe merlin]

You just see the result and do not know what it took people to develop it.
It’s not about unconventional exploration. HN3 is focused to be a sandbox with total freedom. A game where you can set goals for yourself and achieve them. Game never tries to steer you in any direction or tell you how to do things the “right way”.
Automatic climbing goes against that concept. At least in the form it was in HN2.

[main dove]

Here's a thing: you can polish the vaulting system

[tender stump]

thats easier said than done

[main dove]

either way, it can be done perfectly

Though, even if it take some time atleast it would be worth it

You can limit its use in some platforming purposes

[unreal hornet]

i feel like you can design it a certain way to keep it rewarding but it still helps
my ideal vision of a mantling system given this context would be more like a safe guard, if you slightly miss your jump you can mantle onto the surface and not fall and lose progress, rather than mantling being the way past a obstacle

[main dove]

Just like what nikita said

[royal solar]

please dont tell me HN 3 will have the same parkour as HN 1 that parkour was hell

[severe merlin]

It’s because it was done badly

[sonic birch]

true

[unreal hornet]

HN1's parkour was mainly bad because of HN1's movement
too little air control

[royal solar]

well... if ur confident that you can do it better this time i believe you

[tender stump]

i mean hn1 was all about stacking objects

[royal solar]

girl dont remind me i remember actually breaking down

literal TEARSSS

[tender stump]

hn3 will likely use environmental design to let you "parkour"

instead of relying on physics

atleast thats how its been in prototype 1

[tepid flicker]

Well of course, I'm sure it took a lot of time to get it right. Surely the experience from that could be transferred over here, avoiding a lot of the same potholes this time around.

You're saying the game is focussed on being a sandbox with total freedom, and yet when I stand directly in front of something like a small wall - I am not able to mantle/climb on top of it like I would be able to in real-life, thus breaking immersion and, more importantly, limiting me (which also goes against the concept of total freedom).

[royal solar]

i mean i trust in nikita im sure he can pull it off

lets be real

[tepid flicker]

It's a double edged sword.

[mystic topaz]

yeah he's definitely learned alot ever since the first game

[royal solar]

defo yeah

[daring gyro]

i get your point but wouldn't you still have like other ways to surpass / get on top of it

[tepid flicker]

Like stacking boxes? No thanks.

[tender stump]

or you know

jumping

lol

crouch jumping to be precise

[tepid flicker]

I specifically said small wall as that is something you wouldn't be able to jump onto without doing a crouch jump (which I don't like doing).

[tender stump]

crouch jumping is a game mechanic though

[tepid flicker]

A very janky one that arguably isn't even a mechanic, I see it as just abusing Unreal Engine's movement system.

[royal solar]

yeah that

as long as its balanced im satisfied... although i will miss HN 2 parkour system that was peak hello neighbor

[unreal hornet]

i'd argue crouch jumping is a seamless way of "mantling"

ive pretty easily been able to make it a lot less janky while still working

[tepid flicker]

I think mantling is a better word for what I want.

Vaulting sounds like hardcore parkour or something.

[tender stump]

crouch jumping exists in way more games than just unreal engines movement system

[tepid flicker]

I know.

[tender stump]

crouch jumping is an essential mechanic in source engine games

like, you literally cannot properly play half life or half life 2 without doing it

[unreal hornet]

vaulting and mantling are like pretty different things mantling is the actual term for what Quentin does

[tepid flicker]

I just used the term everyone else (except clearly you lol) uses.

[tepid flicker]

Yes, I want mantling.

Vaulting would be really cool too, but it would probably be a lot harder to program.

[unreal hornet]

i have no idea why everyone used the word vaulting tbh

[tepid flicker]

Me neither now that I've seen this.

Time to edit my original message!

[oblique parcel]

idk personally i kinda still would like mantling it was such a good step up from hn1 imo

i understand nikita worries but for me mantling massively improved hn2 for me it also feel satisfying to use imo than again hn3 is a different game

[buoyant brook]

Was RBO supposed to be a remaster of Secret Neighbor

[sonic birch]

no

[buoyant brook]

But it's so similar?

[sonic birch]

no

[buoyant brook]

Wdym "no"

[sonic birch]

Vaulting is much better than having to jump to places yourself, imo.

that feeling of taking a leap of faith in hn2 and just about being able to vault onto something was so rewarding

[tepid flicker]

Jumping from Nicky's house roof to his treehouse balcony was fun

But I wouldn't want the mantling mechanic to be OP, otherwise it would just get used by everyone everywhere.

[sonic birch]

wdym a freebie

[tepid flicker]

I meant like overpowered/broken, I'll edit the message.

There

Like you should be able to mantle yourself on top of a metal barrel but not be able to mantle yourself on top of chain-link fence.

[celest plank]

nikita is the neighbor gonna react to the lights of flashlights

[urban steppe]

(Which is exactly the case in HN2)

Although there's nothing really blocked off by chainlink fence in that game so you just can't jump some fences

[tepid flicker]

Yes, I couldn't really think of any examples of tall things that are thin that can block you other than chain-link fences. :P

[urban steppe]

I think mantling can be done in a right way just to support the player without making it OP like it sometimes was in HN2

[tepid flicker]

Decrease the range slightly, not let them mantle upwards - only forwards?

[urban steppe]

As an example, there's a moderately sized fence that you could jump through but you'd need to eg. do a near perfect crouch jump, instead the game could let you mantle said fence

But, make it so that it wouldn't boost your jump height like in HN2, you can only make it through if you already jumped high enough

In HN2 it's only OP because the game checks well above your height if you can climb something
(that and the ocassional bugs like clipping through things)

I don't think the game absolutely needs it but if there is parkour already then I would prefer to have it

[tepid flicker]

In an ideal world, it would be interesting to have P2 with and without mantling and seeing just how much of a difference it makes. Of course, it all depends on whether or not there even is parkour in P2 (P1 didn't have any) - if there isn't, then it's basically pointless to include mantling.

[urban steppe]

But also since the game is supposed to be a sandbox and you can theoretically do whatever you want then extra freedom of exploration is always welcome

[tepid flicker]

Exactly.

[urban steppe]

It really depends on how the world is built, but in something like the HN2 alphas it opened up new possibilities for exploration mechanics, like items hidden on various rooftops

Then again, HN3 may not be built in such a way that it's needed

At the very least I would like to see vaulting just to make going over certain things less annoying (especially jumping through windows)

[tepid flicker]

Going through windows in P1 was annoying.

[urban steppe]

It was also the case in HN1 alphas before they added the window jumping mechanic

[tepid flicker]

Yes.

[urban steppe]

Which is why at least I would like to see vaulting in the game

[tepid flicker]

Vaulting exclusively for windows, right? (Similar to HN1)
Mantling for climbing onto small ledges. (Similar to HN2, just not as OP)

[urban steppe]

Windows, and maybe smaller obstacles like short fences

[low gate]

I better be able to watch drama series with the neighbor and laugh at them maniacally while multiple vandals break in to his house

[tepid flicker]

Picket fences and metal railings?

[urban steppe]

That sort of thing yes

[tepid flicker]

👌🏼

[urban steppe]

It doesn't have to be full on climbing like in HN2

[high brook]

does anyone know why jacobs face gets all messed up when i import him to blender? (only happens when he has his anims)

[peak solar]

Nikita mentioned Parkour earlier, and

am I weird for saying that I feel like if we went back to that, I would be fine with it?

even he admits HN1 Parkour wasn't done the best

[tepid flicker]

It's not weird, it's your opinion.

[peak solar]

so what would good parkour even be like?

I'm just so happy we're going back to HN1 in a lot of ways

[tepid flicker]

My guess is more stable physics so boxes etc. don't go flying.

[peak solar]

sliding locks, you can interact with most objects you come across, parkour might be returning, Nikita's doing a lot of the concept art for things

we might actually be back

[sonic birch]

rather them go flying than being used for stacking

[peak solar]

I feel like the stacking would be optional, but difficult to achieve

also because the AIs are the puzzles this time, so why would you stack boxes?

I mean I guess you can make shortcuts, but that's about it

[blissful zinc]

no parkour

please

PLEASE

[peak solar]

let him cook

[tepid flicker]

@blissful zinc

In response to me hoping for mantling to return.

[blissful zinc]

i really dont want parkour either way because its gonna be something general audiences are going to hate

one of the biggest complaints people had for hn1 was 'this is a game about breaking into houses why is there parkour'

[loud karma]

if vaulting appears for HN3 it shouldn't be just a main system
just a quick way to get through short fences and windows

[high brook]

bc the neighbor is crazy

thats why theres parkour

[peak solar]

I get it, but

It's definitely a part of HN at this point

and it can be done better

[near meadow]

I have a question about development. Prototype 2 to prototype 3.

If the prototype 2 map is nicely done, why not just build upon the prototype 2 map, adding more npcs and places to explore? Wouldn’t it be more convenient instead of just starting a whole new map?

If that map is so nice, why not just keep improving upon it until the full game releases, then you would have a load of content.

way more houses to explore, way more stories to solve, etc

[peak solar]

I can't answer for him, but I think it's just because sometimes it's more convenient to redo a map than modify it

[near meadow]

Because again, one thing I was still concerned about was the fact that every alpha or build was a different game from each other, and thats why I think it was recieved so poorly by the community.

A different game from what they liked before.

[near meadow]

Might actually be more inconvenient if the community loves the map and the direction. No need to scrap it all yet

Have that prototype map be the demo for hn3 lmao

[peak solar]

I guess, but

that isn't just a testmap

That's a WIP of the fullgame map

this time, they aren't doing exclusive maps for test builds

(well except for test rooms like that devlog 2)

[high brook]

i really hope the map has the actual raven brooks layout

[urban steppe]

What is "actual" supposed to mean

There is no definitive layout

[peak solar]

it'll eventually be the map that ends up in the final game

OH

you weren't talking to me, sorry

[ionic spear]

coffee give sleep in real life

[severe merlin]

Why do you think we remaking map from scratch?

[severe merlin]

Believe me, there was much more behind the scene than you think.

[near meadow]

I thought prototype 3 would be a different map or build.

Mb. So that would mean this would be the map (being built) will be the map used for the alphas/ fullgame then?

[near meadow]

Yeah I get it.

[storm cave]

Hi Nikita, I have a question: will some mechanics from RBO be transferred? (like a hammer that can be used to place boards, or hide in boxes)

[ionic spear]

sliding mechanic will be come in the hn3?

[severe merlin]

P3 map will be built off P2, but it still will be changed significantly. As we improving on art style and increasing number of locations and its much more complicated that “just add a house” since we want to be good and not a bunch or random houses 🙂

[severe merlin]

Yes, but it will evolve significantly over time

[severe merlin]

You can hide in boxes in P2. About the hammer, currently no plans

[jovial halo]

can there be a camera that can take pictures and have them be put on the wall (like in the hn2 trailer and i know this is a stupid idea )

[urban steppe]

Are you planning to have more hiding spots return? (Wardrobes, beds etc.)

[storm cave]

Thanks for answering the question!

[ionic spear]

this idea is not stupid

[severe merlin]

We have some ideas for camera item. If we land on the idea we think fit, we will share it

[urban steppe]

Security cameras like in HN2 could be nice to have, to observe the AI behavior.

[waxen portal]

sorry if this is a stupid question, but who do we play as in hn3? new character?

[daring forge]

New character

[frosty gyro]

hes a new character who just arrived in raven brooks

[waxen portal]

oooo exciting

[ionic spear]

Will we play as Jacob again in hn3 p3?

[urban steppe]

No because Jacob is an NPC

[ionic spear]

i am talking about placeholder

[urban steppe]

It doesn't matter much at this stage since they're not focused on art + I'm sure Nikita is saving the reveal for later

[near meadow]

Perfect. Also Idk if I asked this before.

So im pretty sure in chat, someone playing with files found a skeletal rig of a model, we haven’t seen. You prolly saw it prolly, and had something long on its head.

This is a non spoiler question, I think?

Like how the guest is already illustrated, does the guest already have a model, that won’t be revealed until later on?

Or is that just the model used for the poster for hn3 for that guy at the door?

[ionic spear]

I think it's better to see what kind of person we are early on.

[celest plank]

they dont have a modeler yet

[near meadow]

Oh

[gentle pebble]

In Devlog 3 will be get a snip of The Guest

[limpid pewter]

Will the closet be like hn pre alpha or like hn 1 full release

[fast mason]

Rbo elements are getting revived i guess

[storm cave]

Yeah

[ancient marten]

wait is p2 released

[opaque summit]

no

[atomic forge]

I want to belive that P2 will come out in late April – early May

[fast mason]

yep

[blissful river]

Which is a good thing ngl

They were all cool.

[high brook]

what about rbo assets?

[old pawn]

They are already using some of them, like the boxes, but they will probably change them to a better looking ones in the future

[mystic topaz]

I really love that mechanic where we can metal gear solid in them

[tepid bear]

[valid zealot]

My GPU is too bad to play hello neighbor 3 but can still play 1 and 2

[valid zealot]

Sad that I can't play it

[mystic topaz]

oof

[earnest cape]

Oh that’s interesting to hear!

[blissful river]

Yep

A bunch are in prototype 2 already.

I’m glad they are using them.

[cunning yacht]

hello neighbor 3 with many feature must be cooking.
proto 3 with butterfly effect feels like your replaying your memory

[peak solar]

Might as well ask this incase

was there anything that you wanted in HN1, but held back until you felt like it was the right time?

[restive oxide]

P3 butterfly effect?

Wdym Memories

I get the butterfly effect but wdym Memories

Wait

Nvm I'm dum

[mystic topaz]

I think the butterfly effect will be really interesting for sure like we find different outcomes that interefere with the game's narrative but also ending

in pt3

[storm cave]

Nikita, i have a question (sorry if i’m annoying)
will there be security cameras?

[restive oxide]

Maybe, but he did say that they were talking about picture taking cameras

[atomic forge]

Will P2 have limited time access like P1?

[cunning yacht]

i hope so. i saw a lawn mower with cctv

[queen sapphire]

P1 is unlimited, I have Steam version and I can run it via .exe file

[nimble walrus]

How about this: What if they make it like Far Cry 4 had it. Where you could climb only places which is marked or something, but the places that aren't marked won't let you climb. Ofc you could mantle still on windows, fences.

That would then still have normal gameplay AND there wouldn't be speedrunners using mantling tactics.

Or like unlock mantling by doing training.

[gentle pebble]

Yes it will be the same as P1

[valid zealot]

Covered him in paint

I'm hoping my processor can handle hello neighbor 3 it isn't very happy with hello neighbor 2 currently

[oblique parcel]

by improving on the artstyle do you mean just Making assets better or improving general direction for it

[old pawn]

Probably in general and the assets might be improved later in the alphas

[echo crow]

Hi Nikita, I have a question, will it be possible to somehow interact with NPCs, for example talk

[fallow tide]

So will there be knowledge-based progression? Do we get a cork board to track it?

[cursive heart]

this thought might be contested but i just want hn3 to be a simulation game, instead of just puzzles, its like a viewing game, you cant interact with npcs, and just be a part of the town as a whole, take part in festivals, gets a job, go to prision, ect

[mystic topaz]

I had a HN3 dream where there was a HN3 update of course but there were a lot of Jacob's it was like some silly update and then there would've been some festive update to secret neighbor or something and the end of the trailer said Festive of the Neighbors and it showed all of the neighbor models from every hello neighbor game looking sideways

and then a disfigured theodore threw a snowball at the camera and thats where my dream ended

[cursive heart]

hello the neighbor bye bye yest the 2

[mystic topaz]

real

[high brook]

something i find very interesting about hn3 is how it actually looks like something you would see irl (like the nature bits)

[mystic topaz]

yeah

[celest plank]

bro that aint hello neighbor at all atp 😭🙏

[high brook]

not a bad idea

[mystic topaz]

grand theft brooks

[celest plank]

i was gonna say that

[high brook]

that sounds horrible yet awesome at the same time

[cursive heart]

yet we still have hello engineer

[celest plank]

well its not canon to the lore

i think

its just a spinoff

[cursive heart]

it doesnt have to have hello neighbor in the title, it could just be called smth like Raven Brooks

[celest plank]

what does that have to do with anything

[high brook]

imagine if PAM returned for no literal reason at all

[brave flame]

If I’m not mistaken it IS canon. Alex even said s3 of the AS is Hello Engineer I think.

[celest plank]

well im only fine with nikita's lore

[timid rain]

can anyone tell me how can i switch cameras in hn2?

[grim lark]

Scrollwheel iirc

[lofty token]

how can i play it?

[sturdy field]

you can't

[high brook]

what the hell is youtude

aw hell nah

[restive oxide]

everyone knows youtude

its uh

youtude

[lofty token]

damn

[swift dagger]

Will Nicky return in hello neighbor 3?

[nimble walrus]

Probably no

[grizzled pecan]

What about climbing mechanic from HN2? Will it stay in HN3?

[dawn sail]

i hope

made everything feel more smooth

[restive oxide]

Nikita basically confirmed it won't be

[waxen portal]

really hope at least nikita will be back and works on hn3🙏

[mystic topaz]

Nikita is working on HN3 he has full development over it like he did with the first game

[waxen portal]

ikik i was joking

im lowkey so excited for hn3

[high brook]

that means the game wont be as doodoo as hn2 right?

[cyan hamlet]

Yes

[high brook]

well hn2 was not THAT doodoo imo

it just kinda feels weird

still a decent game tho

[celest plank]

he didnt have full development over hn1

[untold grotto]

he did

[celest plank]

im pretty sure he didnt want the game to be kid friendly

he said with hn3 he can finally make a game he wanted to do

[untold grotto]

the empathy cough cough

[gentle pebble]

I wonder if Devlog 3 shooting has started

[low gate]

He will probably tell us when hes gonna

[swift dagger]

Isn’t there gonna be a devlog 2.5?

[severe merlin]

No, will go straight to 3.
There was 1.5 because it was about different topic from what I promised in the end of first episode. So it was next episode chronologically but not exactly second thematically.

[oblique parcel]

I hope we get to see a sneak peak of the guest design in devlog 3

As i Think its gonna be revealed in pieces i guess overtime

Im beyond excited for the new guest as again guest has Always been my favorite character i Think

[nimble walrus]

Hi, Nikita! I have question. Will there be FOV adjust feature where people can choose their fov how they would like to have it, because in HN2 there wasn't any option to change FOV and it was too zoomed in.

[cunning yacht]

But there is an option to change FOV in HN2

[nimble walrus]

Imagine the first piece being a gray box and that's it

[nimble walrus]

On console I did not see that option, so I guess it was only for PC players which is strange.

[severe merlin]

Yes, definitely. I also love wider FOVs

[sonic birch]

i love playing at 170 FOV and feeling like The Flash

[nimble walrus]

Another question. Will HN3 have keyboard and mouse support for consoles (Xbox and Playstation), because in HN1 and HN2 both had issues where keyboard worked but mouse did not.

[grizzled pecan]

Hello nikita! I wanted to ask you one question about HN3. Do we have one big game with open words and one target. Or we will have different chapters which give us different targets and time periods?

[grizzled pecan]

I think if it will be ported to consoles then why not?

[fallow tide]

Nikita, you mentioned Outer Wilds. That's my favorite game! What parts of it will be in HN3? Knowledge-based progression? Focus on the lore? Or only loop structure?

[cunning yacht]

Nikita, Are you planning to add Forest Protectors in HN3?

[grizzled pecan]

It will be funny if you can get quests from NPC to get loyalty or unique stuff (except vandals) like give me that item, broke generator in this house, go with me to gas station so you can protect me from vandals or so

[cunning yacht]

I guess that's how it's supposed to be. In devlog 2 Nikita said something about helping NPCs to gain their trust

[grizzled pecan]

I don't think it will be like this cuz it will be really complex work to make something like that to every NPC in real time open world

But it can be interesting

Also i don't actually know. Does nikita say we can get loyalty to vandals? Anyway i really want to have this stuff in game

Like you can choose on which side you will be. And if you will help someone, others can raise or lover loyalty to you

[frosty summit]

hi guys

[frosty gyro]

hi

[grizzled pecan]

Hello

[frosty summit]

hyd

i just saw

some more prototype 2 footage

so i thought id swing by

[cunning yacht]

Do you guys think this game will have some of the parkour stuff like the rope swinging and whatnot

[frosty summit]

nikita said ragdoll physics will return

but none of that confirmed yet

[grizzled pecan]

Of course. But it looks like climbing mechanic from HN2 will not be there

[grizzled pecan]

Ragdoll confirmed

[frosty summit]

nikita said climbing MAY return

[grizzled pecan]

We have footage of ragdoll work from Nikita

[grizzled pecan]

We still don't have materials to say it correctly. So it's will be secret to us

[frosty summit]

indeed

[frosty gyro]

Arent ragdolls in proto 2

[grizzled pecan]

No?

[frosty gyro]

Yes?

[grizzled pecan]

Do you think we can interact with vandals. And get loyalty from them?

[frosty gyro]

I dunno about loyalty but you can befriend them

[grizzled pecan]

It's confirmed?

[frosty gyro]

Devlog 2..

[grizzled pecan]

We see we can befriend with friendly NPC i talk about vandals

[frosty gyro]

We can befriend any npc

[grizzled pecan]

Guest counts?

[frosty gyro]

I suppose so?

[grizzled pecan]

Haha i don't think it will be true but its sounds cool

[nimble walrus]

Now how the hell you would be able to be friends with Guest

[grizzled pecan]

I just joking

[nimble walrus]

Ik but it would be interesting actually

Like setup a trap, trap Guest and then give Guest golden apple coins in order to become friends with Guest?

[grizzled pecan]

Or just sit on a bench and feed it bread crumbs like a real crow

I talk about does vandals counts as possible friendly NPC to player? Or they will be bad to us in any situations

[nimble walrus]

Or just dress up as one of them 🤷‍♂️

[quartz sparrow]

I'm just curious as to if our protag for this game is gonna have an appearance or if it's more of a placeholder to imagine yourself in

[untold grotto]

everyone can be your friend or enemy

it depends on your actions

[peak solar]

I feel like it'll be only seen in mirrors if the player character does get modelled later on

that, or whenever you look down

also, it feels nice how this game feels a lot closer to HN1, since I still replay it a bunch

and HN3 is planned to be the same way (Except it's the main gameplay loop instead of just something you do after you're done the first time)

[high brook]

hello life simulator

[celest plank]

😭

i wonder if the enemies will have different animations every time they catch us

[grizzled pecan]

Talk to woman simulator x grass touching simulator

[severe merlin]

It’s one open world with many mysteries. I wouldn’t call them “targets”. It’s just something you can explore, figure out and experience. Focus is on a journey, rather than destination.

[near meadow]

Hello, you have the creepy forest audio from the end of devlog 1 seperated without the background noises?

I just think it sounds cool.

https://youtu.be/gJ0RidAdHgs?t=214

timestamped it, that thing chasing you

[nimble walrus]

Sounds like hn2 audio

But I could be mistaken

[midnight kiln]

If Nikita doesn't answer I'll cry. Let's go into the secret neigboor?:0

[celest plank]

i definitely wont ever get bored playing that game

[fast mason]

not possible

[celest plank]

i wonder if we will be able to interact with the pets

[high brook]

dude i thought that said devlog 3 for a second and almost went crazy

[celest plank]

Hello Neighbor 1 - Devlog 3

ahh

[dawn sail]

Hello Neighbor 1.5 - Devlog 3

[queen sapphire]

But you have to set your own targets to explore?

[peak solar]

I think it's more fun to just not plan out what to do

[peak solar]

Also surprised that the artstyle was mentioned, since it's one of the last things that was supposed to be done

[severe merlin]

Yes. Game doesn’t tell you what to do

[blissful river]

I’m very excited for HN3. It is already super unique, and everyone working on it is super talented. Hopefully it’s a success.

In general I mean.

[high brook]

will the player in prototype 2 still use jacobs model or will it be different

[blissful river]

Looks like it’s still Jacob. Probably won’t change till the alpha stage of development.

[fast mason]

yeah

we will prob get concepts for the player around proto 3 though

or pre alpha if that gets made which prob will

[high brook]

will the storm idea be in prototype 2 still?

[nocturne jacinth]

Hey Nikita, I always had a problem with HN1 that the only reasonable stackable objects were boxes as there were many of them and it was simple. do you think in HN3 there will be more stackable objects or climbing utility for platforming. And will platforming be a key feature for the game?

[lament siren]

Tuff

[grizzled pecan]

We already have boxes in prototype 1

[nocturne jacinth]

yeah I just mean more options for stacking objects. I say this cause there will be no mantling in HN3 so I just wonder if they have any ideas for different platforming equipment

[blissful river]

yep

Storm is still there in the clips at least.

[atomic forge]

so it will just be a game with multiple endings that don't position themselves as good or bad

[glad narwhal]

I mena techniaclly there is good or bad endings. But, they dint position ghem as that. So yes.

[severe merlin]

I’d say game wouldn’t have “an ending” in an expected single-player sense.

It’s stories that you experience are what game is for. Not big overarching goal.

And even all these stories will unfold somewhat differently for everyone due to system-based nature of the game

[gentle pebble]

Nikita in the game would you be able to save Jacob, Signed and others in the later builds

[near meadow]

Will we atleast have a conclusion to the neighbor and aaron's story? As in closure for his fate?

[severe merlin]

As I said before I don’t give any story related comments

[celest plank]

hey nikita will the neighbor or the other enemies react to the lights of flashlights

not in prototype 2 but hn3 in general

[grave mesa]

Hello Nikita. Will it be possible to barricade doors with chairs in hello neighbor 3? and will npc's be able to knock them down, and will there be Imbir?

[nimble walrus]

Wouldn't it be better if we barricade the doors with hammer and planks

Like we did in Guest level in HN2

[buoyant brook]

Will Hello Neighbor 3 expand on the stealth mecahnics from the previous 2 games?

[spare pawn]

Are we getting more npcs in full release soon?

[haughty tide]

guys, i don't think we should be bothering nikita for now, he's offline so better wait until he comes online and then ask him some questions.

[spare pawn]

Good choice. I'll just wait until he reads my comment... He should deserve more time

[haughty tide]

yes, exactly.

[muted karma]

is there any video records ?!

new

[untold grotto]

in prototype 3 there will be more npcs

[cursive heart]

tbh, im not even sure this game can have the word "neighbor" in the title, as of right now, the player doesnt even live in RB

and i assume its gonna stay that way

[untold grotto]

well he said "ping is fine but pings for no reason is not okay"

[haughty tide]

Well yeah but sometimes you can't bother him too much, you know.

[untold grotto]

still remember its his weekend break now

[keen vigil]

hello guys

[mystic topaz]

hi

[swift dagger]

Imbirs dead lil bro considering the fact that the neighbor was 40 in hn2 and the neighbor is probably in his 80s in hn3 and cats live 20 years

[untold grotto]

imbir isnt a normal cat

like

show me another cat that identifies as "non-binary"

(but still highly doubt that Imbir will be in HN3)

[celest plank]

whats so different about him

[untold grotto]

.

[celest plank]

hwhat does that have to do with him being probably dead

[untold grotto]

a normal cat lives 20 years its true

but imbir isnt a normal cat

[untold grotto]

and as i said here

[mystic topaz]

skipper takes place of imbir as the wandering dog in hn3 ||/j||

[earnest cape]

I really hope so, haven’t heard anything on stealth in a while but I still believe it has the most potential when it comes to stealth in the franchise.

Also so happy to see openable windows returning from HN2!

And really love this new unlocking system for doors.

It’s good to see some RBO content return such as lawn-o-tron and could make the gameplay more intuitive.

[restive oxide]

it would be cool if doors have the opening system where you grab it then move the mouse to open it

i dont have a great example at the moment

[earnest cape]

I think the best way to do it, is if you tap the button to open the door it opens all the way like currently, but if you hold down the button you can drag to open and pull the door allowing you to be sneaky and see what’s on the other side before you enter, would be great for stealth.

[restive oxide]

actually

that would be rly cool

a rly cool mechanic

if they ever brought back peeking, which i doubt they will, they should rework it cuz the pre alpha peeking wasnt very intuitive.

[earnest cape]

Also PLEASE keep a good amount of on screen UI such as the circle meter for opening windows or throwing.

[earnest cape]

Definitely!

[restive oxide]

they should make the circle meter much smaller tho

[earnest cape]

Yeah, UI adjustments should be a setting.

[restive oxide]

yeah

[frosty gyro]

Proto 2 focuses on building the stealth mechanics iirc

[earnest cape]

Not a big fan of the HN1 style crosshair, would prefer something more with an icon like HN2, but I still think it’s good.

[earnest cape]

It focuses on sneaking into homes so yeah.

[velvet crane]

something like this

[restive oxide]

yeah

i think its a cool mechanic

[velvet crane]

same honestly

[restive oxide]

I'm so glad that since hn2 they decided to make it so you dont have to HOLD e to grab items

now you can just grab smth quickly

[frosty gyro]

I know that game.

[restive oxide]

maybe there could be weight systems

like

heavier items

take longer to pickup

and light items are just a click

[earnest cape]

Could definitely see that.

[restive oxide]

i feel like that would be in the game

and maybe heavier items could be harder to throw

although that might be annoying

[buoyant brook]

Since when is it non-binary?

[untold grotto]

nikita and tinyfox confirmed it many times

[buoyant brook]

Imbir is NOT a normal cat

Although i would love to see them in Hn3

Does anyone know who's composing the music for hn3 ?

Because I think I heard somewhere that it ain't Nikita

[tender stump]

same person as hn2, siarhei

although prototype 1 music was composed by nikita

afaik

[buoyant brook]

Oh that makes sense

The prototype 1 music reminded me of the Hn1 music ngl

[untold grotto]

siarhei, but also nikita helps him

[untold grotto]

dont think so

after rbo prototype nikita didn't compose for rbo/hn3

iirc

its all siarhei's

also hn3 prototype 1 musics composed for rbo

[high brook]

that reminds me of that one door lock from the prototype of hn1

the door thats kinda near the kitchen

[mystic topaz]

yeah

it seems like they're incorporating older ideas

[high brook]

does anyone have the music from devlog 2?

[celest plank]

btw

iirc there was something similar to this

in the hello neighbor prototype trailer i think

[digital linden]

i hope that in hello neighbor 3 neighbors will be able to piss like in hello neighbor 1 with mr peterson

[sonic birch]

ok

[earnest cape]

I’m happy knowing HN3 will still have music in environments like HN2 even if little.

[blissful river]

Yeah. The music really sets the vibe.

[earnest cape]

HN2s music in the environments built a lot of the world, hopefully it will for HN3.

[blissful river]

Yepp

[old comet]

you mean these things?
if so, then no, these were composed by Siarhei

[jade night]

All the HN3/RBO tracks were composed by Siarhei, except for the RBO Prototype trailer theme and the lobby music.

[old comet]

yeah

[jade night]

And some of the music-ish sounds in HN3 have HN2 presets, like this one using the crime scene preset.

[old comet]

no echo goes crazy...

[nimble walrus]

You mean like Outlast had it?

Where you could grab to open doors and if you run you could slam open

[midnight cloud]

neihgor what?

[molten trout]

i listened to this and got sent to a forest with a creepy bird man running around help me

[restive oxide]

i've never played outlast soooo

idk

[nimble walrus]

Outlast a horror game

[near meadow]

Had a stroke reading that

[violet nebula]

are we going to play as Quentin or Nicky in HN3?

[swift dagger]

Bro Quentin is dead and Nicky got kidnapped by the guest

[violet nebula]

Wait what when?

[swift dagger]

So u never saw the ending of hn2 and never read the books huh

[violet nebula]

Then who are we going to play as in HN#

3

[raven pilot]

new character to raven brooks

[violet nebula]

Oh

Some idiot on ticktalk said it was going to be Quentin again

[raven pilot]

lol

[violet nebula]

I wonder what Mr. Petersons design is going to look like.

[raven pilot]

...

[violet nebula]

Sorry I have not seen the newest devlog

I was on vacation.

[raven pilot]

no problem, im just trying to help

[violet nebula]

Thanks man

[blissful river]

Quentin could still be alive lol

[high brook]

old quentin when

[radiant hazel]

did you know prototype 2 comes after prototype 1?

[plush silo]

Really?

[radiant hazel]

i thought thered be 1.5

[fleet sandal]

1.5 only applies to Alpha 1.5, not Prototype 1.5.

[high brook]

and its too late for a prototype 1.5 anyway

if there was gonna be one

[nimble walrus]

Wasn't Quentin alive still from that one footage that was unused and it was probably ment to be a continue of the story where it left off. It's still published on TinyBuild's YT channel btw

[blissful river]

Yep

[nimble walrus]

Where he had like these dreams/hallucinations or something, then he sort of wakes up and see's him being dragged by crow cult, then later tied up on a chair, with candles lighten up around.

Ngl I wish someone makes that continue as a mod with really well written story

[earnest cape]

Yeah it was supposed to be, with it canceled the ending is still simply Quentin mating his fate for his actions.

[mystic topaz]

true its sad that we never got to know what happens next but it is what it is

[spare pawn]

Does Hello Neighbor 3 has character customization for us player?

Cuz if it does, it would be so cool. Just like secret neighbor alpha's

[restive oxide]

Not that we know of

Not yet anyway

[spare pawn]

Well, I hope it will.

[stuck lynx]

Probably not

Theres like literally no point to character customization in first person and single player game

[severe merlin]

No. Not only game is first person single player, but also main character will have their own story, so created character doesn’t make sense.

[severe merlin]

Check #work-in-progress chat for higher quality

[severe merlin]

Neither 🙂

[limpid pewter]

hows devlog 3 going ?

[spare pawn]

Will we get the main character design in Prototype 3?

[atomic forge]

I remember he says that devlog 3 is on script writing stage

[limpid pewter]

ok

[storm cave]

Hey, nikita, i have a question: what about gonna be devlog 3?

Or it’s a secret?

[ionic spear]

devlog 3 may not be prepared at the moment.

[ionic spear]

probably no

[untold grotto]

its in scripting stage so probably he decided

[untold grotto]

player doesn't even have a concept art

yet

[untold grotto]

how nicky kidnapped by the guest anyway

[celest plank]

i dont think we'll play as the mc in any of the prototypes

prototypes are prototypes after all

[spare pawn]

Good point.

[untold grotto]

the players design is just ideally now

they dont have a concept art for it

[spare pawn]

Guess, I'll wait for the full release.

[untold grotto]

nah

it will be in alpha stage or smth

when they started to care about the visual

and whenever they hire character modeler

[ionic spear]

I think we should play as a character with a model like Forest Dweller instead of Jacob in the prototype.

[spare pawn]

Wait, They don't hire character modeler before???

[untold grotto]

there was a character modeler

[ionic spear]

Yeah, whoever is making the models right now is doing it very badly.

[untold grotto]

which who made 90% assets of franchise

but she fired

[spare pawn]

Ohhh

[untold grotto]

rbo jacob model and iris model was her models

signed model made by nikita

and one EGS artist retextured Jacob for some reason

in hn3 prototype 1

[untold grotto]

animations

[jade night]

the only model that looks clean

[spare pawn]

Fr

[untold grotto]

all of character models is placeholder now

[spare pawn]

Why was she fired?

[untold grotto]

🤷🏻🤫

[jade night]

me when I unplaceholder their assets

[spare pawn]

The side kinda looks like the taxidermist house

[ionic spear]

what is this house?

[jade night]

A Test house

[spare pawn]

Not gonna lie when Jacob screaming of something that he fears or surprised is kinda cute

[ionic spear]

It feels so bad, the grown man is like a child

[untold grotto]

also shes the one who made these

[spare pawn]

He's like a coward.
But for some reason, his eyes like those character whose brave. (my English is not good sorry)

[ionic spear]

true

[spare pawn]

Man, she's good.

[untold grotto]

his personality confirmed to be cowardly

iris is brave

its why he calls iris

[spare pawn]

I drew a Hn3 oc but idk how do I start.

[ionic spear]

We also think that Jacob should not be a coward.

[untold grotto]

well it might change

since everything is subject to change

[spare pawn]

At first glance, I thought he was brave.

Just look at those eyes.

[untold grotto]

well it will be his new design

[ionic spear]

Okay, he may be a coward towards signed, but when we entered his house, he ran away ahh

[untold grotto]

and in steam screenshots he also invades signed's base

[spare pawn]

And he will tell iris to catch us.

[untold grotto]

like it might be just test for "coward" AIs

[ionic spear]

both brave and cowardly

[untold grotto]

not spesific for jacob

[spare pawn]

Kinda look like Gru.

I can't unsee it now.

[ionic spear]

ridiculous

[ionic spear]

yes, me too

[spare pawn]

😞😞

[ionic spear]

what happened

[spare pawn]

What?

I'ma just stick to my HN3 oc. Bye.

[ionic spear]

bye

[jade night]

HN3 Prototype 67 leak

[ionic spear]

this is a fangame?

[jade night]

yeah

[spare pawn]

Good thing I'm on Android... (😭😭😭)

[ionic spear]

bro android is best

[spare pawn]

Currently, I'm waiting for someone to make a HN3 fangame.

On Android ofc.

[ionic spear]

you can play guest secrets

[spare pawn]

Already did.

10/10

Even though it's short.

[ionic spear]

hello neighbor 3 prototype 3 bycle sound leak

[limpid pewter]

nice

[spare pawn]

Nice.

My ears bleed.

[limpid pewter]

erm actually its called the last stop 🤓

[ionic spear]

yes

[spare pawn]

HN3 musics is so 🔥🔥🔥

Some screenshots I got.

[untold grotto]

siarhei and nikita cooking

[atomic forge]

🥰

[cunning yacht]

hi chat

[grizzled pecan]

Raven brooks offline

[severe merlin]

Who says we can’t? 🙂

[grizzled pecan]

Nikita i want to ask you. I just listened hello guest (hn2 alphas) music. Did you do it alone or did someone help you?

This music sounds very different compared to the soundtrack of HN1 and HN:H&S

[untold grotto]

he did all of franchise osts until hn2 alpha 2

after him, Siarhei took over

[grizzled pecan]

Understood

Just it really very different to his previous work

[untold grotto]

not sure about SN ones though

SN ones might be Hologryph's own composer

[untold grotto]

cuz hn2/hg has a different atmosphere

different vibe

you know

[urban steppe]

not Nikita

[grizzled pecan]

SN maked my other studio. So i don't think nikita do something there

[untold grotto]

nikita and dp also worked on sn

but as a assistant team

[grizzled pecan]

I know, but it's hard to believe that one person could have make all this

[untold grotto]

i mean its his job

also hn2 development started on late 2018 if you look at technically

hg development stoped on oct 2019

[grizzled pecan]

Really?

[untold grotto]

rotm developed in the gap between HG and hn2 Alpha 1

[grizzled pecan]

As i remember It was realised in 2020

[untold grotto]

there is no such thing as it will be released as soon as it is finished

hg cancelled in october 2019
we got hg prototype in 2020

you know

and when hn2 announced hn2 Alpha 1 and 1.5 were finished

[grizzled pecan]

Okey i get it

[violet nebula]

Morning everyone

[grizzled pecan]

It's 18:10 for me but good morning

[grizzled pecan]

Also i think Nelson chase music was made in HN2 alpha 2 Period. Because music style fits to it

[atomic forge]

I love the conception "new version of HN3 new devlog", this is very good that the devs shares with us ideas for improving the game, new features and concepts

I hope devlogs will come out until the release of HN3

[bronze steppe]

u sure we aint in RB?

[tepid flicker]

The player doesn't live in RB.

They're visiting.

[urban steppe]

I like that this lamp post is a replica of the HN2 one

didn't notice that previously

[radiant hazel]

hello neighbor 3 prototyte 4 wil have neighbor modekl

is my predicitonpn

[tepid flicker]

Here's a better look at it from Developer Diary Episode 2

[past cedar]

wheres the wayron croobian

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183056311760474134/1319417176444108862/scdisapear.gif

[atomic forge]

we don't actualy know is there even be the P4 or just pre-alpha/alpha after P3

[urban steppe]

They look very nice, would be a good model with a bit more polish and textures.

[tepid flicker]

Agreed

Hopefully the bulbs in this screenshot are just from harsh LODs and not actually like that at LOD 0.

[urban steppe]

I assume either that or it'll be improved upon later.

[tepid flicker]

Hopefully!

It reminds me of the E3 2021 Trailer for HN2.

[urban steppe]

😬

[tepid flicker]

I don't think they even used this in the end for HN2, but it was eventually used in Nicky's Diaries.

[urban steppe]

The style of HN3 is definitely improving so far imo.
The props in prototype 2 look more stylized.

[tepid flicker]

HN assets, except for the very old art style - which had hand-made LODs, have unfortunately always had bad LODs.

Because they rely on UE's automated ones and don't tweak the values.

[urban steppe]

HN1 full game LODs are some of the worst in the series

[tepid flicker]

Mhm.

[urban steppe]

This carpet looks really nice for example.

[tepid flicker]

Elena asset

[urban steppe]

Hopefully HN3 has better asset streaming in the open world than HN2.

[atomic forge]

Love how they use the Eastern Europe style

[urban steppe]

I don't want house interiors to disappear when you get 15 meters away from the house.

[tepid flicker]

Yeah, it was really bad with HN2 FG.

[tepid flicker]

Same!

I do miss this art style though.

[urban steppe]

Some of the screenshots from test maps remind me a lot of Militsioner, which has a similar style.

Though HN3 combines it a bit with the western suburban architecture design.

[atomic forge]

this is really cozy and atmospheric imo

[urban steppe]

I do too, but I think the new style will work out in the end, it's already improving imo.

It's different but not necessarily worse.

[tepid flicker]

Well at the moment, the new style still uses some Elena-made assets.

[atomic forge]

Yeah, the HN2 style is good and it have good balance between cartoonish and realistic style

[tepid flicker]

Once they're replaced (because they probably will be), it might be even more realistic.

[urban steppe]

Guess we'll see.

Though at the very least the HN3 style incorporates more detail into things, which was missing in HN2 a lot of the time.

[tepid flicker]

Such as?

[urban steppe]

A lot of the meshes are 'smoother', like doors having bevels and such, while in HN2 a lot of things (particularly in the old style) had very rough edges.

[tepid flicker]

Elena definitely incorporated a lot of detail in her assets, except for maybe the fridge as an example.

[atomic forge]

Ninja car

[tepid flicker]

We've hardly seen any HN3 assets yet, and the ones we have seen are clearly placeholders.

[urban steppe]

It was kind of hit and miss, some models had an absurd amount of details (like this car), while others had rough edges, plain textures etc.
Though of course not all assets in that era were fully finished, but still.

[tepid flicker]

HN2 Alpha 1.5's red wardrobe with blue sock textures are a good example of that.

[urban steppe]

This translates a bit to the HN2 full release as well, because there's a lot of props with low quality textures and barely any geometry.

[tepid flicker]

I think the low quality textures are because of their tech artists going too far and making everything compressed as hell.

I still can't believe they kept Q & T at 1024.

[urban steppe]

Some of it yeah but others were just made this way

[tepid flicker]

Hammer (first seen in that Theodore render where he has the rusty nail in his mouth) was made at at least 2048, and when it eventually became usable in Patch #9 it was at 512...

I hope they don't do anything as drastic as that for HN3.

Especially if this is a late 2026 game.

[urban steppe]

The HN2 museum bookshelf...

Literally flat colors

[tepid flicker]

I forgot about that monstrosity

I remember you re-UVing and re-texturing it.

[urban steppe]

I did

[violet nebula]

I hope that HN3 will get as many updates as HN2 did.

[atomic forge]

HN2 got many updates because of bugs and stupid AI

[violet nebula]

Fair point

patch 9 was like the only good one

[urban steppe]

Many of said updates introduced content that was made before the game even came out.
And in the end they barely managed to fix any of the AI issues, and introduced more of them as well.

If they don't rush HN3 they won't need to update it with content that was supposed to be there at launch.

I'm sure there'll be some bugs at launch, but hopefully they take time to polish it to the best of their ability before the game launches.

[earnest cape]

Tbf Europe is the general area the Team is working and living in, most things such as nature and locations are based off of things in that area even if in-game RB is in the Missouri.

[atomic forge]

I know it buddy

[urban steppe]

I mean, Nikita himself said that he wanted to recreate a town he used to visit in his childhood. It's quite obvious.

Doesn't mean that it's not a nice style to have, because it is.

[atomic forge]

I mentioned this when he said that, and devs do theirs job very well

I live in Eastern Europe and I can safely say that they convey the atmosphere of Eastern Europe very well

[cursive heart]

this franchise has evolved much more, past the neighbor, to the point were he isnt even the main antagonist anymore, but still, having the word hello neighbor does make it more relevant, since people are bound to know its part of the franchise 🤷‍♂️

[ionic spear]

bruh, bruh and bruh

[urban steppe]

Well, it's a sequel, or rather threequel to a game called Hello Neighbor, that's why it's called that.

[blissful river]

Yeah, and it still has “neighbors” all the NPCs live in the same town. And the neighbor is still a character.

It’s for sure still a Hello Neighbor Game.

[earnest cape]

HN1 was called HN because of the Neighbor, HN2 was a sequel and now had multiple neighbors, HN3 is another sequel with more neighbors and while yes we aren’t living in RB we are there for the entire game, everyone we meet are pretty much neighbors in town to us and the other characters.

[lunar trail]

it's called Hello Neighbor because its about the Neighborhood brah

[cursive heart]

i was just going by the definiton of the word

u gotta live in the town to have a neighbor

[radiant hazel]

you are right, the franchise isnt just about the neighbor anymore, its about the town and all of its contents. But still the neighbor plays a major part in the story and is still the "main" antagonist in some way

[swift dagger]

Nah the guest is the main antagonist now

Also is the guest gonna be shown in devlog 3 or 4 or future devlogs

[radiant hazel]

well, the main antagonist is the guest, but the main focus is the neighbor i guess lol

[atomic forge]

Since that's the case, the main antagonistS is Forest Protectors

[celest plank]

i dont think the forest protectors are gonna be in the game

[atomic forge]

I'm talking about entire franchise antagonists

And I want to ask a question

Who wants to see any cutscenes in game?

Like introducing cutscene and ending cutscene

[celest plank]

i do

whats a hn game without at least 2 cutscenes

[safe raft]

I was hoping for more then 2 but oh well

[ocean obsidian]

I think hn3 will have a maximum of 3 cutscenes

[atomic forge]

Nikita said that HN3 will not contain the cutscenes

That's sad

[ocean obsidian]

Hn3 just doesn’t seem like it needs that much cutscenes. obviously the cutscenes tell story’s or give you a brief understanding about what’s going on, but the game just doesn’t seem to need them

We already know what’s gonna happen mostly

In the game

[atomic forge]

But I hope that's he change his mind

[lunar trail]

I think there's a possibility that they will be

[lunar trail]

the biggest evidence that points to that is the Guest Statue being called God Statue in the files

[ocean obsidian]

They probably will be in hn3

[safe raft]

Forest protectors in HN3 would be cool I guess

[atomic forge]

And I want more than text in the end

[ocean obsidian]

Yea definitely

[safe raft]

I just dont want them to get all of the spotlight

[ocean obsidian]

They would be a side character like a additional feature

[safe raft]

Yeah I would hope well if there even in the game in the first place?

[ocean obsidian]

Yea

[safe raft]

Also I do wonder if aaron will be in HN3? and if so I dont think he would be a kid anymore right?

[ocean obsidian]

Def not a kid, if he’s in the game

[safe raft]

Just imagine if he's the Guest jk lol

[ocean obsidian]

That would be funny

[storm cave]

I wanna believe that aaron just escaped from Theodore

[ocean obsidian]

Possibly

[safe raft]

Or he's still in the basement

[ocean obsidian]

He would probably be dead by now

[celest plank]

if i remember correctly

we're gonna start the game like

you get it right idk how to explain it 😭

[atomic forge]

Poor kid

[celest plank]

and actually as long as the game feels alive we wont need any cutscenes

[ocean obsidian]

Yea

[safe raft]

Why would he be dead?

[ocean obsidian]

If the game is really good we won’t need cutscenes or not many

[severe merlin]

It's not that I don't want them or anything. There is no place we can integrate them as everything you experience happens procedurally. Of course our goal is to make characters a lively as possible, but everything you'll see ||(except first intro or something)|| will be in real time, without taking away your control. This is just how HN3 works.

[peak solar]

There's one thing I was wondering

sometimes in HN1, I tend to just mess around with the environment to see what happens, even if it's without any real purpose

do you do the same in HN3?

[storm cave]

Oh, hello nikita

[ocean obsidian]

That’s how I thought the game would go

[peak solar]

This is probably how testing works, but it just feels nice knowing the world isn't ignoring the things you try to do

especially with the butterfly effect, and character interactions/events

[ocean obsidian]

Yea

[atomic forge]

ok, but i didn't mean cutscenes during the game but intros and endings that won't just be text

[safe raft]

So how's prototype 2 going nikita?

[storm cave]

I think it’s nearly done

[ocean obsidian]

Almost

[storm cave]

Like: some bugfixes, etc

[ocean obsidian]

Yea just little things to add

[safe raft]

Thats good

[celest plank]

nikita are we gonna have to be quiet when sneaking into an enemy's house for example so that they dont hear us or will it be like hn2 and 1

[atomic forge]

Also, thanks for explanation

[celest plank]

also i was thinking it would be nice to have a way to quietly open doors

[ocean obsidian]

That would be really nice

Just don’t know how that would happen logically

Or in a good gameplay style or easily

[safe raft]

Well wasn't there physic doors going to be in HN3

[celest plank]

well maybe we could hold a key for example

[atomic forge]

And I want to ask you, how long will it take you to make the third devlog?(just want to know when you will release it approximately )

[restive oxide]

Hey Nikita, the other day I was talking about a feature that would be really cool. Basically, you can open and close doors normally with a tap of the interact key as usual, but if you hold down for a period of time, you can move the mouse the open the door

[celest plank]

like on our keyboards i mean

[ocean obsidian]

Ohh yea

[restive oxide]

Like in outlast, someone used that game as an example

[severe merlin]

Ideally sneaking is possible and useful. But it's not like you forced to sneak. We changed approach to level design, so it works a bit different from what you saw in previous games.

[ocean obsidian]

Nice

[pastel basin]

from what we've seen, it seems like p2 is experimenting with stealth?

[storm cave]

Hey, nikita, i have 2 questions:

1 - what stage is devlog 3 at?
2 - when will the devlog be out?

[restive oxide]

He isn't putting out release dates

Just ideal time periods

If that

[atomic forge]

I think it's what he want to know

[high brook]

not even like if its gonna be a couple days or even a week

[mystic topaz]

Hey nikita since HN3 is returning to sandbox elements the 1st game had will we be able to fill up buckets with water again?

That was one of my favorite features

[storm cave]

Welp, i mean will it be next month or this month

[storm cave]

Yeah, i think it could be interesting

[high brook]

im pretty sure the best guess was mid april or early may

[celest plank]

yea and for example i think it would be cool if we could lock a door by using a padlock and a key if we're being chased so the enemy will have to either take a different path to reach us or break the door open

[safe raft]

its nice that nikita talks to the community

[limpid pewter]

Nikita how's prototype 3 going

[charred sky]

hey Nikita! are you planning to support the game in any way after the release?

[atomic forge]

I think it's on very early stage, 'cuz they start the development in start of the april

Or in the end of march

I don't remember

[severe merlin]

Currently doors are physical (RBO-style). We have certain ideas on how to expand on it in the future. Your ideas are interesting! Opening door with mouse will break the pacing unfortunately as the game is somewhat snappy and dynamic. Thanks for the ideas, anyway!

[restive oxide]

Yw

[severe merlin]

I don't give such info, sorry 🙂

[mystic topaz]

that'd actually be pretty cool peak idea