hn3-discussion

[sage palm]

unless youre like legit nine years old

[mighty orchid]

Maybe uneasy is a better word

[tight silo]

maybe eerie?

[mighty orchid]

But that’s just until you figure out it doesn’t do much

[magic hollow]

Eh it worked out in the end 😅
I don't know if it's just me but hello neighbor was pretty disturbing to me . I finished the first game and then hide and seek after that I was kinda feeling weird . Like mently disgusted? Idk

[mighty orchid]

I see what you did there

[sage palm]

hide and seek i found a bit disturbing at the time idk why

[zealous prism]

it tells most of the lore💔

[magic hollow]

You felt empty right ?

I was ovethinking it like it was all real

[sage palm]

idk

[zealous prism]

I feel like its also mostly cuz we get to see the neighbor being a normal person

And not attacking us

[tight silo]

random:i can not WAIT to see what the guest will look like, wonder how "unholy" his appearance will be

[mighty orchid]

Well in that game you’re his kid so…

[zealous prism]

Still

Felt weird seeing him normal

[tight silo]

i feel like hello guest (the hgp version, where you typed hgp at the end of the secret neighbor website to get it) had some pretty good atmosphere, was "eerie" and just plain odd, what made me feel uneasy was it JUST being the player and the guest, in a sorta big map

[magic hollow]

I always thought hello neighbor was a psychological horror . I thought maybe the developer was basing it of his own fears ? Like he had problems in the past and decided to make a game out of it where fear makes you do things you don't wanna do. I admired the game (I didn't know the developers before that .I just knew the game and tinybuild)

I forgot this is a hello neighbor 3 discussion channel... my bad 🥲

[tight silo]

lol so did i

[magic hollow]

I liked when that rocked ride or idk crashed on that white wall ? Revealing the weather station

[tight silo]

yea, i was confused why the wether station was importaint at the time

i wonder if theres a prototype for hn3 thats finished enough, where its not very buggy, a prototype for hn3 will release for consoles?

cuz i remembered that hg was put on consoles

dont know if its xbox exclusive

[magic hollow]

Ok let me ask you somthing

What's your honest thought about hn3 ?

[tight silo]

if they can do what they say they PLAN on doing with it and not pull a hn2 on us, then i think it may be the best one yet

[magic hollow]

I'm not really convinced bro I try to stay positive and believe in the devs but I can't lie to myself, it doesn't sound like hello neighbor anymore.

[tight silo]

ik, but it may change overtime, it might have more hello neighbor-y stuff to it later on, but what i am MOST excited for is the designs and art for the game,im sure it wont be AS bad

[magic hollow]

I'm kinda nervous cuz i don't want this game to die, it has a lot of potential but the devs waste it

[tight silo]

oh god i just realized, hn1 costed 20$, hn2 costed 40$...HOW MUCH WILL HN3 COST??

[mighty orchid]

Thus far I don’t think it looks as good as some people make it seem because it’s way too early but I don’t think it looks awful either. It’s very in the middle for me but it is a little bit better that the creator of the first game is back on it.

[magic hollow]

There is a purple girl 👽 that doesn't make sense even for a hello neighbor game.

[tight silo]

yea, im getting wierdcore vibes from hn3 in general

[zealous prism]

2 dollars

[tight silo]

slamming wallet give breaks table whilst slamming wallet give me it NOW

[magic hollow]

Don't get me started on the neighbor design....where did the iconic rubber gloves go ? 😦

[zealous prism]

he looks scary

time ruined bro

[mighty orchid]

She tried moving one of the mayak reactor rods but it came at a cost

[tight silo]

wait i never realized his gloves were gone

[soft gulch]

they got stolen probably

[magic hollow]

No offense tinybuild
But scary and ugly aren't really the same thing 🫠 he looks old and harmless

[mighty orchid]

The reactor rods stole them

[tight silo]

he upgraded his boots using them gloves

[zealous prism]

Hes been through a lot💔

Give vro a break

[magic hollow]

Does this mean I can't say
(* I wonder what the rubber gloves are for*) anymore ? 😦

[high brook]

imagine he literally dies

[mighty orchid]

His back went through a lot after hn2

[zealous prism]

bro

[zealous prism]

true

[soft gulch]

it was probably by him too

[zealous prism]

explains it actually

[magic hollow]

Dang why can't they just make him die with his dignity? Atleast wear the gloves before passing

[tight silo]

or if this IS the guests design then explains that GOSH DANG GLOVE

[high brook]

my guy literally has a trashbag on his arm

[tight silo]

oh-

[soft gulch]

yeah i think that's a trash bag

[magic hollow]

He looked depressed and cold . I liked it

And that cutscene with the shovel was wonderful

[soft gulch]

theo's gloves are not that strechy lol

[mighty orchid]

Unfortunately I don’t think Alex tinybuild would let the neighbor die and even if he did he’d bring him back somehow

[high brook]

or he stretched the glove like some cartoon ahh

[magic hollow]

Is this actually a character in the game ??

[soft gulch]

kinda

[tight silo]

not sure, ik it is, but idk about his design

[soft gulch]

that image is a recreation i did because we don't have the model

[mighty orchid]

That’s just something someone made but you can see the legs in the main background thing

[tight silo]

i did find this cool design for the guest on gamejolt, definatly getting wierdcore vibes

[earnest cape]

Alright what’s going on chat

[mighty orchid]

I think that’s fan made

Actually I don’t know

I’m just assuming

[soft gulch]

but this is what the actual one looks like, which is pretty much the same thing basically

you can't see his beak here but it's there

[tight silo]

yea i see it

[earnest cape]

Do we know 100% Tall Guy is The Guest now?

[magic hollow]

I know damn well he ain't dying until he cook this dude

(Not imber she's protected by the Fandom :] )

[earnest cape]

The only thing we know most for sure is Forest Dweller being The Guests AI.

[tight silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tight silo]

from the betas for hn2

[earnest cape]

Uhh no HN3 Prototype.

[soft gulch]

im pretty confident we know that he at least has a beak

[magic hollow]

Me If imber didn't appear in hn3 or the movie (joke)

[soft gulch]

the beak has rope around it i believe but that's just what i can get from the rig

which mentions beak ropes

[tight silo]

yea, look at some of the gameplays for the betas for hn2, like fgteev,8-bitryan

[earnest cape]

I mean if he has a beak, then it’s definitely The Guest, doubt it would be Cultists since, why would they be designed like that.

[soft gulch]

i do think the model is a placeholder

[earnest cape]

In the HN2 Beta The Guest was just to keep you from going off of objective.

[tight silo]

yea, that AI was repurposed for hn3

[earnest cape]

No, not at all.

[magic hollow]

I don't think so

Maybe it's a new character, Maybe an Allie or a servant of the guest?

[earnest cape]

I’m not sure.

[earnest cape]

If it’s a “Servant” then it’s a Cultists.

[soft gulch]

im very confident he's just signed's body with iris' arms and a beak without any textures and just a flat color

[tight silo]

or they just have a long neck ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[soft gulch]

im pretty sure the arms aren't even connected right to the body

[earnest cape]

Yeah it’s probably a placeholder for what they are working on.

[earnest cape]

He also does have the singular glove that Jacob is supposed to have in his refinements.

[soft gulch]

i think the glove is new

[magic hollow]

Yall I don't care what he is . I just hope he gets a scary jumpscare that's all

[soft gulch]

not reused from any model

[high brook]

reused concept right?

[earnest cape]

Characters are planned to drag don’t know if there will be catch animations or any jumpscare.

Anyways brb

[tight silo]

hn2 alpha memories

[magic hollow]

Uh huh ...

[magic hollow]

I thought that creep was going to burn me in the furnace 😂

[mighty orchid]

Wasn’t dragging extremely buggy from hn2 alphas

[soft gulch]

no, the rig for that thing was left in the files, and it mentions having a beak

[tight silo]

yep, and they were fun

[mighty orchid]

What if two characters try dragging you?

[earnest cape]

Ahem…

[tight silo]

if that is the guest, then now im kinda seeing why people are saying its not gonna feel like hn, but im still hyped for it

[tight silo]

cuz dang he was done dirty

[mighty orchid]

What it has two beaks? I don’t know what I’m looking at

[soft gulch]

no no

it's the one at the top

the other thing are the hoodie strings

[mighty orchid]

Oh right

[tight silo]

so then i guess we have somewhat solid evidence that we know the guests design?

[earnest cape]

Complete opposite he looks way more terrifying, he got the Ink Demon treatment and looks scary to run into.

[tight silo]

im talking about the neck

[earnest cape]

Ohhhh

He’s staring up so it looks funky

[tight silo]

i just thought of the janitor from little nightmares

[soft gulch]

they go kinda like this

[slim cosmos]

'

[potent spear]

Is the saw model in hn3 the same one as the unused one from the pre alpha of hn1

[peak solar]

probably not

[potent spear]

I hope I'm prototype 2 the make the game a bit more optimized and fix the vertical camera sensitivity problem

[proven bough]

ooh

interesting

still hoping this isnt the guest tho ngl 🙏

[blissful river]

No. 98%

[proven bough]

I'd find it weird that the guest wears a hoodie with one entire bare arm out

[vagrant notch]

It's not him, there's been zero indication that it's him.

[soft gulch]

Apart from having a beak I guess

[untold grotto]

beak

[frail solar]

Slenderman?

[earnest cape]

Thanks for the estimate 👍

[earnest cape]

He has a beak.

[celest plank]

Yuh same

[vale tusk]

Do you think that at the end of hello neighbor 1 when Nickies comes out of his childhood home and sees the neighbor's house dilapidated this moment happens at the same time as hello neighbor 3? I would also like to have Nickies as an NPC?

[hollow coral]

hello

[celest plank]

maybe

i mean time has passed so yeah

nicky grew and neighbor got old

[vale tusk]

yes then we clearly see at the end of hello neighbor 1 that the neighborhood is completely abandoned and destroyed like in prototype 1 of hello neighbor 3

[warm knoll]

I think main character at hello neighbor 1 prototype not connected to Nicky and I think after when Neighbor's house get destroyed He moved away at Raven Brooks to Old Town ,it's my opinion

[zealous prism]

Like just Nicky and Mr Peterson's houses

🥀

[celest plank]

how many years have passed when nicky moved back to raven brooks

[zealous prism]

Idk 20

[celest plank]

idk peterson looks so old

wait and if the house was destroyed where is the neighbor living now

[zealous prism]

The forest maybe

[celest plank]

maybe explains why

raven brooks looks so different in hn3

cause its an another part of the town ig

[zealous prism]

perhaps

[vagrant notch]

You sure about that?

It looks like it could be one, but i highly doubt it is.

Why's it look so “bendy?” wouldn't a beak be straight?

Looks more like an elongated neck.

Only reason your seeing a beak, is because your mind already made up it's mind before your eyes got to take a clear look at it.

[opaque summit]

We have bones for that model and it has a beak

[oblique parcel]

Either way i Think this is some sort of idk fake guest? Or like someone using his image

Not the actual one

[vagrant notch]

Nikita said we haven't seen the design yet, at all.

[oblique parcel]

Yeah

[vagrant notch]

To show most of it very clearly in teaser images and then make that claim would be lying, and i don't think he's lying, it also just doesn't look like a beak should.

[restive oxide]

Even if it's not the guest, it does have a beak

[oblique parcel]

How do you feel about the fact hn3 might not Even have a Main antagonist? And all the npcs are simply characters in the open word

I both don’t mind it but also Do mind it idk

[vagrant notch]

It bends, beaks cannot bend that way.

[oblique parcel]

I heard People say They don’t Think the Neighbor Will be a Main antagonist anymore which would feel strange to me

[restive oxide]

No, the bends are rope bones

It has ropes wrapped around the beak

The bones have names

[vagrant notch]

If i tied ropes around a beak, that would not suddenly give it the power to bend to the side, like playdough.

[oblique parcel]

Im very sure Thats not guest not the real one at least

[vagrant notch]

If it is i will say this,

That design sucks.

[oblique parcel]

As a guest design it would be very odd

I prefer him looking like a crowman than a human with a beak on his face

[vagrant notch]

The fandom has gaslighted themselves into believing that he's a man attending furrycon.

[oblique parcel]

This isnt just a normal man

[vagrant notch]

Because “he's the neighbor in the books ☝️🤓” but the books aren't the same canon as the games, that's very clear to me

[oblique parcel]

Well its more implied he possessed or merged with the Neighbor in the Books

After this Neighbor comes out of the water as the guest

[vagrant notch]

Same energy.

[oblique parcel]

I just hope they keep guest monsterous for hn3 and don’t make him so random weirdo

That would just make him like a signed like character to me

[vagrant notch]

Apparently that's what the fandom wants for some reason lol

[celest plank]

is hn3 gonna be in the animated series

[oblique parcel]

I want him to feel like this kinda ish

[vagrant notch]

It reminds me of a lot of fandoms, where the more populer fanon interpretation has nothing in common with how the characters actually are.

[oblique parcel]

Alex has actually implied guest is the most powerful character in the lore

Also the vr game shows Neighbor running away from guest in fear

[celest plank]

bro i just hope the guest wont be that tall stupid dude

[oblique parcel]

Me neither but i doubt its guest as Nikita Said we haven’t seen anything at all

[celest plank]

he doesnt even feel like a hn character

neither the vandals do

[vagrant notch]

“Long limbs”

[oblique parcel]

Well hes also Said to have featheres growing on his body

[vagrant notch]

That's average normal man anatomy.

[oblique parcel]

Guest in reset day btw or a carving of him

[vagrant notch]

Can we just have this as the HN3 design? is this not the coolest he's ever looked?

[oblique parcel]

Better image but yeah its a cool design i hope his hn3 design takes some influence

Hes also described to being able to appear and disappear very fast kinda like a phantom haunting the town

[vagrant notch]

Maybe, i'll do a fan design, though i'm not the best at this stuff.

[celest plank]

guest having feathers would be cool

i mean sticking out of his ripped cloth or sm

[oblique parcel]

But yeah guest is Always refered to as a THING in reset day not a who

[vagrant notch]

What i am the best at is knowing how things should look in a setting.

[oblique parcel]

Anyways i assume prototype Will close today

[vagrant notch]

I never even played it, i feel like i got my fill from seeing it online.

[dire night]

you know at first i felt like it was a guest

but tbh

i really feel like thats just his neck

and if it isnt

then i guess its someone dressed as the guest

we have seen references to a ||fake guest|| in the files

[frosty gyro]

i like tall guys beak

[simple cloud]

Now we have 3 main antagonists?

Teodor Peterson, Crowface, and guy with long legs

But we don't know who is guy with long legs

maybe he is good guy

[daring gyro]

those who crow:

[oblique parcel]

I Think a reason i love ruined slash abandoned hello Neighbor enviornments like hg, hn2 alpha’s and now hn3 is because it reminds me a little bit of my childhood game aka epic mickey

It too had eerie yet familiar looking areas from Disneyland for example and hn3 is sorta following a similar formula of taking something familiar and sorta twisting it into something more uncanny and eerie

Just to show what i mean Heres an concept art of one of the areas in the game as an example

Hn3 is doing kinda the same Thing with both being a bit cozy yet eerie altough not with Disney related stuff obviously

[frail solar]

Wait would his name be the crow man

[hazy fern]

Whos that

[untold grotto]

the guest

[mighty orchid]

That or we all took it the wrong way and it was some metaphorical in his head thing that HN loves to due

[soft gulch]

No it's because when I first saw it I saw a yellow like thing and that made me think beak, and then we also have his rig which also mentions a beak

I personally think it's the guest, but I don't think this is exactly how he will look like

Again, the model is clearly not final and looks like it was put together in like one hour

I also don't see what so bad about this being the guest since this design has the thing of looking unnatural and unhuman which is something I wished the guest had started with

[sturdy field]

protagonist should be Nikita

[soft gulch]

You could argue he does have human skin, but I'm not sure if this is really meant to be that for the final design nor do I think that makes it bad

It could also just also be like this just to not spoil his proper design or something

Idk, it's just weird to think they would just make another crow like character

Less a fake guest

[sturdy field]

That makes sense. Imagine a copy cat and real monster in town.

[raven shoal]

i have good feelings about hn3

since nikita is head

hn1 and the other spinoffs were okay, it was the first few games by a game studio so it makes sense they'd be eh

hn2 was.. bad

but hn3 seems promising

[sturdy field]

Me too

Nikita is our savior

[cunning yacht]

mickey mouse on the left

[lost stream]

Visuals and music were gorgeous though.

[raven shoal]

true

The hello neighbor 3 ai seems really promising

[soft gulch]

Hn2's music was kinda meh to me at times

Sometimes it felt a little too whimsical

[raven shoal]

GOAP is hard to properly implement tho. The hello neighbor series is known to underdeliver on its main selling point; the ai

but i hope HN3 changes that

[cunning yacht]

bro so many youtubers playing hello neighbor 3

[raven shoal]

its the hot new thing. Kinda sad they aren't watching the dev logs though

[cunning yacht]

except markiplier

[raven shoal]

it explains a lot about the prototype 1

[cunning yacht]

but some of them where

like kindley keyin and adijes

[lost stream]

Walking around the HN2 town gives me serious Vanishing of Ethan Carter/Everybody's Gone to the Rapture vibes.

[raven shoal]

and ash

cant forget the frame by frame

[cunning yacht]

yep

yo he theorized it. im gonna whatch him rq

[raven shoal]

its a gtlive

[cunning yacht]

yeah thanks for info

[celest plank]

i wonder what they'll focus on the most

while developing the game

[sturdy field]

That is a real question?

Of course biggest point of hn

[celest plank]

well yeah

[sturdy field]

AI

[celest plank]

the ai kind of sucked in the hn games

[sturdy field]

It is main goal now

[cunning yacht]

yeah. they fixed their mistakes

as he said in dev 1.5 they are going to promise

[sturdy field]

I hope

[celest plank]

yh i have a good feeling abt this

[raven shoal]

since nikita is back as lead and he has more experience in game dev i feel its going to be better

you should always balance what makes money and what is good

[celest plank]

wasnt hn1 one of their first games

maybe its why the ai wasnt good

[soft gulch]

Pretty sure it was their first pc game

Before hn1 I'm pretty sure Nikita just made mobile games

[celest plank]

i mean yeah it was one of the first pc games

so yeah

nikita didnt work oh hn2

after hn1 its been like 7 years i think

[soft gulch]

He didn't work on the final version anyways

[celest plank]

yeah i meant that

i think he made the

alphas

[cunning yacht]

yeah. he got burnt out and left hello neighbor 1 alpha 2.

[celest plank]

i loved alpha 1.5 so much

[cunning yacht]

nikita is the only good person in the game dev

compared to any other dev

[celest plank]

yeah

[cunning yacht]

eerie guest ruined hn2 due to their greed. its what happens

why

[celest plank]

did u mean hn2

alpha 2

[cunning yacht]

hn2 promises

[oblique parcel]

That was more tb fault

[cunning yacht]

oh ok

[oblique parcel]

As They Didnt update the consoles descriptions properly Either so theres still a lot of false info

[cunning yacht]

ouch

[celest plank]

is there even a hn2 aplha 2

[fringe igloo]

I just hope they release some small update to get rid of the blatant false information (false promise at the end of the game)

[oblique parcel]

Well They defenitly won’t even if Nikita wants it to happen

I feel like they would have done it by now if they were planning too Ngl

[errant pewter]

used to be but iirc it was eventually turned into HN2 beta

[celest plank]

oh and also is the prototype map gonna be similar to the final hn3

[urban steppe]

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
There was fault on both sides but EGS are not greedy, they don't even decide on the price point, marketing or release dates of the games.
tinyBuild made the decision to release the game too soon, and gave it a steep price point of $40 (which is a lot for such a short game), there's also other questionable decisions such as swapping the writers and marketing things that clearly were only there in concept (neural network etc.)
On the other hand the new developers at EGS didn't know what to do with the game much, they kept trying to change and make up new things for it while it was actively in development (which is why the game is so different between the beta and full release) which ultimately ended up with broken mechanics and lack of content, and also the lead game designer decided that the previously heavily stealth focused game needed to be fast and action packed, while also deciding that no one would want to walk around a giant map (that one honestly is for the best because it would be just a giant empty map with nothing in it because the game doesn't have much content)

[oblique parcel]

I Will Always dislike the decison to Tie hn2 with AS as it clearly was not good for the game Thankfully hn3 is not gonna be Tied with AS(at least i freaking hope so🙏 )

[urban steppe]

It won't be, they'll keep iterating until they find a map layout that they're happy with

probably for the next 2 prototypes and first alphas the map will be changing

[errant pewter]

what does it tell you when Nikita had to PERSONALLY make the official statement that the game he didn't even have association with is dead and won't be given updates

[daring forge]

No the map will be changed

[errant pewter]

honestly this so called "tie-in" was in fact so poorly managed that they barely have any actual connection

[oblique parcel]

Yeah it makes 0 sense

[errant pewter]

and since AS is a bit more recent some people decided to consider IT as the actual story substance and not HN2

frankly I agree with them

[fringe igloo]

I'm currently writing a relatively large feedback about how I'd make a "Final update" without actually adding any new locations or act 2, It's delusional to think they'll actually read it and even if they do care about it. I know it's not getting implemented. It's just something for fun at this point.

In short, I'm basically just trying to find ways to cram in a complete story by remastering and adding some new cutscenes to act 1

[oblique parcel]

They will not like 100 percent Thats simply not gonna happen

[fringe igloo]

Yeah duh

[urban steppe]

There definitely will not be any content updates
the least they could do is update the menu and ending screen which would barely require any effort but knowing tB that won't happen anyway

[frosty gyro]

i have geniunely no clue as at how hn2 fits with as (timeline wise)

[urban steppe]

(it doesn't because it wasn't meant to)

[fringe igloo]

Still going to post it anyways. Though it's not done.

[oblique parcel]

If they made it fit well i wouldn’t minded too much but hn2 is very confusing with AS

[urban steppe]

the game was meant to take place after act 1 (in the 90s, and there's still references to that) and the AS doesn't

even if they changed some things in the AS it still doesn't realy fit in

[spiral atlas]

i think the tie in was supposed to more be focused on the guest and stuff, and to fill in blanks, not necessarily be the same plot

then everything happened and hn2 came out like it did

[urban steppe]

even then the guest doesn't do much in HN2, since most of his content for the game was scrapped

[spiral atlas]

yeah

[fringe igloo]

I also want them to make the archives book useable in Quentin's office, which tells a bit about the character of the day.

I wish there was more to do with it, but I'm just trying to make my ideas as small and as lazy as possible.

[oblique parcel]

Hopefully hn3 can be a redemption for guest in a mainline game that is

As hn2 Didnt really do him much justice i personally Think

[urban steppe]

the tie in between HN2 was mainly just going to be cult stuff (which in HN2 is poorly executed) and guest stuff (which there isn't much of in HN2) so y'know, there isn't really anything of much importance

[spiral atlas]

they seem to have kinda taken the AS in it's own direction instead of having it try to fix stuff, which I think is nice

[urban steppe]

though I do wish we knew how it was all going to play out, but tinyBuild would probably never let them release any storyboards or concepts that didn't end up in HN2

[spiral atlas]

as much as i'd like to see stuff be fixed up, i feel like it'd cause more of a trainwreck

[urban steppe]

at this point I don't care much for lore, and each piece of media basically portrays it's own story

with some exceptions

All I want from HN3 is a good story that stands on it's own, it doesn't need to connect to any other HN media in my book

[oblique parcel]

Well at least hn1 and hide and seek i Think it Will connect too properly

But the other stuff i don’t really know at this point lol

[urban steppe]

Nikita could and absolutely would connect the story with his previous (HN1,HS) so I'd be happy if that was the case in HN3 but again I don't really mind if it just has it's own story

[spiral atlas]

i feel like hn3 is just going to kind of stick on it's own, as it seems to be in the future anyways, which i don't really mind

i wouldn't mind if they did connect some of the smaller stuff though

via references or just minor plot points

[oblique parcel]

I just hope they clarify how the canon actually works if They Even have a plan(which i Think and hope they do)

[urban steppe]

I feel like at this point we've seen so many different iterations of the same exact events in different HN media so HN3 being set in the future and not being connected much or at all with other things would be a breath of fresh air

[spiral atlas]

i doubt nikita would just say everything is canon for as long as he has and then not have a plan

[oblique parcel]

Im just so tired of the continuity being so confusing and mixed up

Stuff like Guest i understand hes still a mystery but we Should know what is what i feel without being super confused

It Genuinely hurts my head

[spiral atlas]

i'm sure if the as doesn't give us the big reveals, hn3 will

[oblique parcel]

Yeah i see no reason why Nikita wouldn’t tell us if its not something Thats gonna be revealed in hn3 or AS

Anyways back to hn3 as we once again started going off topic a little bit

[errant pewter]

I'm not tryna be rude but DUH??

well depending on y'all's definition of "connect" actually, still, HN1 and HS are just

the foundation of the whole franchise

by default they would have association with HN3

Really hoping we get to see Aaron

[urban steppe]

They definitely don't need to have any connection, especially with how separated HN3 is so far

[errant pewter]

well, again, duh??

it's not like it's anywhere to being finished or being "canon", know that is being brought up a LOT right now but like

[oblique parcel]

I mean i doubt they would just make hn1 not canon to hn3 lore

[errant pewter]

I really don't think you can say that HN3 is "seperated" from everything else when it's just

nothing by definition, it's not connected, it's not seperated, it's nothing

[oblique parcel]

Otherwise it would basically just be a complete reboot

[errant pewter]

it's as "seperated" as HGP was "seperate" from the franchise at that point in time

and yet, amusement park became a common theme, and Guest became a recurring villain (for the most part), beloved by many

so just give HN3 some time to grow some lore it doesn't come instantly

I mean the prototype literally has "get internet signal to call taxi" as the player's goal and journey I REALLY don't think you can compare it to anything

[urban steppe]

Well it was planned to be a sequel to HN1 from the beginning in some form or another,

Nothing's really 'separate', of course, even HN3 at this point definitely has some lore tying it to other things, but it doesn't need to directly be connected into anything, i.e. it doesn't need to continue Nicky's story or tell us what happened to Aaron, it can stand as a separate story (about the neighbor, and the town).

[sturdy field]

I like guest but Ted really needs a good treatment

[urban steppe]

Well, yes, that's for the prototype, but that doesn't mean they don't have any story planned out for HN3.

Even if we don't know it yet, and it might as well change in the future.

[oblique parcel]

I hope they make him a properly Fleshed out character in the game

He felt too one dimensional in hn2 imo

[sturdy field]

Yep

In hn chat like I said. He really needs a treatment like books and animated series.

[urban steppe]

And even a prototype like this can be hiding things, it's just that those things aren't confirmed in any way of course
eg. there's a house looking very suspiciously like Theodore's with the "forest dweller" residing in it (where have I seen that before...)

But what I mean is that a sequel doesn't need to explain or even continue every story point from the previous one, and sometimes it's better to just not. I'd be fine if HN3 just told something about the town, the guest and continued the neighbor's story to some extent, without necessarily alluding or explaining anything from HN1 or HN2. (Nicky, Aaron, Neighbor hiding from cops etc.)

(HN2 is also a great example of this because the story basically tells you nothing there, but in that case it's a bad thing)

[sturdy field]

Yep

[spiral quiver]

I'm wondering after what time the action of HN3 takes place
At least half a year Im pretty sure

[errant pewter]

you make good points but forest dweller's place of residence looks nothing like Theodore's house

for starters every single house is "wooden blue"

[urban steppe]

It has similarities, and it being a small placeholder prototype house can explain the differences (+ the house changed designs plenty between media)

[errant pewter]

secondly it's in the middle of a forest

[urban steppe]

it is a house, which is run down like theodore's, and it vaguely has the same shape, and it has a cellar
so it's not a lot, but it's also something

[urban steppe]

the entire town is

in HN3

[errant pewter]

yeah but forest dweller's is like

in the woods

like deep in the woods

[urban steppe]

And again, like you said yourself it is just a prototype so you can't compare it to anything

the map will change anyway

and the town differs between different media all the time

[errant pewter]

touche but I think one would put more effort into making a specific building accurate if their intention is to make it resemble a house structured in a specific way

it's just

some random ruin in the forest

[urban steppe]

You don't need to put much effort into a prototpye with placeholder assets, especially because it was meant to be internal and not public at first

The devs would know what it is anyway, so they don't need to fully visualise it at that point

And yeah, like you said, it can be a random run down house

but it might also not be

it's just

[errant pewter]

what's the issue with just

[urban steppe]

amibigous at this point

[errant pewter]

making it accurate from the get go

thouhg

I doubt it'd be THAT much of an issue to put the cellar to the right of the doorframe??

[urban steppe]

because it will change in the future anyway

and also design changes happen in HN all the time, even to Theodore's house, it's vastly different between HN1 and HN2 for example

[errant pewter]

the basic shape is still accurate

[urban steppe]

it sort of is in the HN3 prototype as well, just much smaller

the only thing that doesn't fit is the cellar

It went the same for eg. the HN2 alphas, the house resembling the neighbor's there was very different

[hallow helm]

can someone tell me why miku is in the prototype

[errant pewter]

I wouldn't say so? For starters it lacks the porch

I mean are you team "it doesn't have to be accurate" or are you team "actually it's kinda accurate"

[urban steppe]

I'm team it might as well be

[spiral quiver]

I think someone already asked that.

[hallow helm]

uh yeah me

LOL

[spiral quiver]

Then why are you repeating

[hallow helm]

i never got an answer

[oblique parcel]

Im still confused i thought we couldnt talk prototype spoilers here or has it been long enough?

[hallow helm]

[spiral quiver]

Because it's not?
I think I should be the least of my worries.

[errant pewter]

the basic shape is the same in HN2 alphas. Dweller's house similarities begin at "blue house and window to the left of the front entrance" and end there

it doesn't have anything even remotely suggesting the existence of a second floor

had the cellar hatch been BEHIND the house like it always was I'd believe you

this is unironically more accurate

[sturdy field]

He is night he is bad he is GUEST

[urban steppe]

Why draw the line at "where the cellar hatch is"
I mean, why does it have to be 100% accurate anyway, especially since it's for a prototype which by definition isn't meant to represent the final product, like yes I know it's pointless to argue since we have no idea whether or not it is the house, I'm not saying it has to be just that it could be.

And yeah the HN1 Act 3 house is obviously more accurate since it's a finalized asset

(Also both HN2 alpha house and the run down HN1 house don't have a cellar if I remember correctly)

[errant pewter]

I'm saying that it just can't be

simple paradox, if they wanted to show us that it's Ted's house why do so little to do so

if they couldn't allow to care because it's a prototype why go through with it in the first place

[urban steppe]

???

You know what I don't even want to argue anymore

[oblique sigil]

yup

[urban steppe]

It doesn't matter anyway because that's not how the final game will look like

[oblique sigil]

cant wait for prototype 2

i think we will get it around july

[errant pewter]

that's a LONG time to wait for a prototype

I think May at the absolute worst, but nowhere near July

I just wonder if we'll get more of "throwaway npcs" in any of the prototypes

[urban steppe]

Depends on whether they want to get it out to public as soon as possible or make us wait in classic tinyBuild fashion

[errant pewter]

at the very least aside from the ones which have concept art

[urban steppe]

But considering the more open development of HN3 hopefully that won't keep happening

[peak solar]

Even if this isn't that house, I wonder what areas will be underground?

[errant pewter]

I mean it's a prototype

[errant pewter]

oh yo good question

[urban steppe]

yeah and the HG prototype which was outdated at the time of us getting it was locked behind a crazy ARG for no reason so you know

but I hope we're past that

[peak solar]

Speaking of underground, there was one weird detail that was put in the Hello Guest levels, I'm assuming only Nikita would know the answer to, but

Mill and the Guard House both had trapdoors

was it just a random detail, or did it mean anything?

because I never noticed it until a friend pointed it out to me

It used the elevator shaft ceiling entrance model, but it still looks close enough to be trapdoor that I'm convinced it was supposed to be

[urban steppe]

well I assume they planned out some underground locations

but they probably never did much with it

just left it as 'plan'

[errant pewter]

I get the message of "prototypes aren't something just handed to you" but still it isn't exactly the same as just

waiting really fricking long for it

[raven shoal]

Solution: the dweller hates second floors

and tore it down

[errant pewter]

and put a new roof up

[raven shoal]

yea

never leaving a bowling ball out again 💔

[urban steppe]

I mean yeah but it wouldn't be the first time tinyBuild made us wait for a build of the game even though it was like months old by that point

[raven shoal]

no more fan puzzles

[urban steppe]

But it seems Nikita has more control over it

[errant pewter]

I guess it'd be neat if the guard house had some kind of hatch shelter/cellar/basement but I suppose it's not really sensical to develop a specific builidng too much if you're going to spend a little time around it

[urban steppe]

So if he wants it released it will probably just happen

[errant pewter]

speaking of HGP what was the roller coaster cutscene even about

[sturdy field]

mastermind

[urban steppe]

uh some teens... getting like lost or something... in a forest

and shit happened

they found mayak

[errant pewter]

and Guest attacked them there

[urban steppe]

I think it might just be the same story as HN2A1.5

just an earlier draft of it

[errant pewter]

yeahh

kinda interesting to note that one of the teens has the "MITH aesthetic"

[urban steppe]

well since it was planned to be kind of the only safe location in the park (and the only place with storage), then it wouldn't be too far fetched if they planned some sort of way of quickly getting back to it from the other side through some hatch for example

[errant pewter]

not a fancy coat and hat but still a hood (with a beanie I think?? Hard to tell) sunglasses and a bandana

[urban steppe]

or just it could be some sort of secret bunker location I suppose

maybe Nikita can answer that actually

if he even remembers

[raven shoal]

where neighbor?

These people are not hello, nor neighbor...

Iris isnt my boy...

[errant pewter]

hope we'll see either the weather station or the mill in HN3, probably unlikely since scrapped content is scrapped content and the mayak will be featured in AS S3 so

[errant pewter]

both Iris and Jacob wave to you

constantly

[urban steppe]

they are the hello

[raven shoal]

yeah but they are nt my neighbor

[errant pewter]

they may be not neighbor but they are VERY hello

[raven shoal]

how is this guy my neighbor. how is this guy my neighbor?? hes a complete stranger

[urban steppe]

so is Theodore considering the player in HN3 is completely new to the town

[spice raft]

btw guys do yall think they will delete the prototype when the game comes ourt?

[oblique parcel]

They will very soon according to Nikita

They will close playtest soon

[sturdy field]

Go outside and see other people

[errant pewter]

huh wdym

[urban steppe]

The player character in HN3 is supposed to not have any ties to RB so obviously they wouldn't know Theodore

[errant pewter]

I suppose they'll learn as they go

[sturdy field]

Player should be Nikita

Best choice

[spice raft]

will it get deleted from our libaries

??

[oblique parcel]

Yes

[errant pewter]

literally everyone gets the "did you know that he's the guy whose family died??" routine

[spice raft]

this is bul

[urban steppe]

I do actually wonder who the player ends up being

[vital dirge]

i think they’ll make the story with
this guy a lil more complicated
i mean adding a random man with no backstory and stuff sounds strange to me idk

[urban steppe]

And when they'll actually implement a proper character model for them

[cunning yacht]

It's Beatrix trust

[urban steppe]

They never said the player has no backstory they're just new to raven brooks

[sturdy field]

This is irrevelant and little moaning but I need to ask. Do you think who pre ordered hn2, should get a free copy of hn3 or massive discount.

[urban steppe]

obviously the player will have some sort of story

[cunning yacht]

Massive.....

Yknow what else is massive?

[vital dirge]

hope so

[sturdy field]

Ted's chin

[oblique parcel]

No lol

[errant pewter]

Ah yes reminds me of the one time someone said that Nikita's head from the devlog is how the player character before Nicky looked like

[cunning yacht]

Stop 😭

[vital dirge]

he might actually be from the big city

[errant pewter]

just like Quentin was?

[sturdy field]

Our money is gone

[vital dirge]

kind of

[cunning yacht]

If he's not from raven brooks then it seems like just about everybody in hello earth is nosy

[errant pewter]

knowing tinybuild they'll get NEITHER

[urban steppe]

Some sort of smaller discount, maybe. For free? lol no.

[errant pewter]

I think a discount at best

so that they actually

earn money from it

[urban steppe]

Well you know, you could have refunded HN2 if you didn't like it

[sturdy field]

yes..

[cunning yacht]

When hello neighbor augmented reality game

Wait are Jacob and Iris gonna be in the full game or no

[sturdy field]

Refund the pre ordered game.. yes

[urban steppe]

Uh yeah?

You can literally do that, and if you do it before the game is out you immediately get a refund

After that it's the same 2 hours 15 days scheme (at least on steam)

[sturdy field]

If I knew game launches like that. I would refund it

Anyway forget it

Just 2 dollars

[urban steppe]

They gave you early access for pre-order you could have made up your mind, and also you can play a game for some time and still get a refund in most cases

[sturdy field]

I didnt buy deluxe

[errant pewter]

don't tell me early access was deluxe exclusiev

[urban steppe]

it was

[errant pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[sturdy field]

Lmao

[errant pewter]

I'm so glad to be too poor to buy these games

[urban steppe]

either way, if you don't like a game at launch, you can still refund it if you haven't played it for more than 2 hours (on steam, not sure about other stores' policies)

[sturdy field]

I had a toaster at that time

[cunning yacht]

Microsoft is the same I believe

[sturdy field]

And I hope of getting a full game

[oblique parcel]

I hope for hn3 there are no stuff like day 1 dlc’s lol

[urban steppe]

The fact they actually had the audacity to release them

[cunning yacht]

I hope for hn3 there are no dlcs

[urban steppe]

at such a high price point as well

[sturdy field]

I hope

[urban steppe]

you pay like $10 for a drone that does nothing it's just a flying camera

[oblique parcel]

Yeah They outright felt like an insult in the state they released them

[sturdy field]

I hope it be last hn game

[errant pewter]

I hope not

[sturdy field]

Im tired

[oblique parcel]

Mainline wise i defenitly wouldn’t mind it being the last as long as its pretty big

[errant pewter]

I don't want a "HELLO NEIGHBOR 4!!!!!" but some spin-offs would be nice

[sturdy field]

Community will be like Half-Life Community. If it happens

Become crazy

[urban steppe]

Such as the highly acclaimed world renowned Hello Neighbor spin-off Hello Engineer?

[errant pewter]

please none of that

[urban steppe]

The only good HN spin-off is SN, but even then that game kinda got ruined and died

[errant pewter]

I'd kill for another multiplayer HN game

game loop with something akin to RBO maybe

[cunning yacht]

Update hnvr for multiplayer

[oblique parcel]

I just want them to REALLY don’t rush hn3 towards the end of development where They hurry up to get it out for a deadline

[stuck lynx]

No

[urban steppe]

One can dream, but it probably won't happen

[cunning yacht]

What's with the X😭

[errant pewter]

No

[sturdy field]

Please

[errant pewter]

Do not

[cunning yacht]

Secret neighbor Vr would be peak

[cunning yacht]

SN vr when? : >

[urban steppe]

Unless tinyBuild manages to gather a high enough budget and find a team experienced with multiplayer

[cunning yacht]

EXACTLY!

[urban steppe]

which is questionable if that will happen

[errant pewter]

not with the TIMER Y'ALL 🙏😭

[cunning yacht]

Obsidian

[oblique parcel]

Hnvr is still the best hn game imo despite its flaws hopefully hn3 Will top it

[sturdy field]

I remembering jokes of releasing hn3

[urban steppe]

Honestly I played HNVR for like 2 hours, nearly vomited, and got extremely confused and lost, not to mention my game broke like 7 times, and I just gave up

I do not want to relive HNVR

[cunning yacht]

cuz Stell Wool makes it

[cunning yacht]

It's fun when it works. My hands keep getting stuck out of bounds and breaking my gane

[errant pewter]

RBO gameplay loop was okay-ish I don't really get the whole fuzz about it not working

[urban steppe]

Hasn't HNVR been as broken as it is I would give it another chance but the bugs drove me insane

I put a crowbar next to the vent thing and turned it on and the crowbar started flying next to it

[oblique parcel]

One thing i would say It got the best version of guest imo hes just not there

He actually feels like he exists for once

[sturdy field]

True

He acts like trully a monster

[cunning yacht]

True : >

[oblique parcel]

In hn2 he was just THERE for example no context nothing

[urban steppe]

I mean that's the entirety of HN2

everything is just there

nothing of it really matters

it just exists

[oblique parcel]

Im happy Nikita and part of the team is writing hn3 story rather than the AS writers(no offense to them but i don’t like how they wrote hn2)

[sturdy field]

We have 16 great man now

[urban steppe]

Patch 10 could've probably been somewhat decent if it released but it would probably be really bad story wise like the rest of the game

[untold grotto]

patch 10 was never a thing

[sturdy field]

NO PATCH 10?!

[untold grotto]

patch 10 development never started lmao

[oblique parcel]

I do feel bad for People that wanted the story expansion but i Think not doing it was for the better and focusing on hn3

As again i Think hn2 was pretty much doomed

[urban steppe]

A story expansion for HN2 would expand upon literally nothing so it would be pretty pointless

In the end even if it's really disappointing there was no point in continuing HN2

[oblique parcel]

Hn3 feels more like hello Neighbor again to me or the one i loved

[urban steppe]

It feels like old hello neighbor, even the neighbor's design closely resembles the very original concept

[oblique parcel]

Yes it almost reminds me of old hn1 at times

[nimble walrus]

No. Just no! The neighbor model in that game looks disturbing as hell.

[cunning yacht]

He looks his age

[sturdy field]

We need hn3

[oblique parcel]

Im gonna be brutally honest i had to remind myself why i was Even staying at a certain point in the post hn2 fg era but hn3 has made me actually optimistic again

[urban steppe]

well, at one point I decided just not to stay, so y'know

[nimble walrus]

Nicky also looks disturbing

[oblique parcel]

With hn3 They actually seem to know what they wanna do with the game something that was apparent they did not know with hn2 as they kept changing its direction so Many times

[sturdy field]

Fatface

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/997623695210188900/1345716035705372726/HN3_Character_Chart.png?ex=67d01b39&is=67cec9b9&hm=b651927c7a472d8253f4bf0ee50677a17025c61a7c54edaebcd14ac47955c553& I love these styles are very unique. A normal man and purple girl

[celest plank]

imo they dont feel like something from hn at all

[sturdy field]

Its good for me, this is really feels like hello neighbor concept

You can see different persons in real life with unique personalities

[hollow coral]

same

[sturdy field]

I loved it feels like a food chain. Neighbor is top then Iris then vandals at last jacob

[high brook]

im convinced iris is related to purple guy

(jacob is just frozen LOL)

[sturdy field]

[harsh tundra]

Will there be dialogues in the game? Will non-player characters talk to each other in a distorted language?

[sturdy field]

I dont think so because it cause lack of interactions. I mean they talking eachother and if it is little long it would be very bad

[harsh tundra]

okay

[untold grotto]

no

[fleet field]

Carly Anne West will byal take a role in creating the plot of the film?

[harsh tundra]

I don't think so

[fleet field]

It should be done in a good way!

[untold grotto]

no

its jon carnage and Tyler macintrye right now

[ancient marten]

hi

any leaks?

[sturdy field]

Oh gad

[ancient marten]

idk

[sturdy field]

Purple guy

[ancient marten]

frfr

[fleet field]

Well, I would have taken a trusted person now, not some leftist people. Yes, I know that one of them was a producer of an FNAF film, but Scott Cauthon himself was also there.

[ancient marten]

got fired now im a discord mod

[sturdy field]

We dont have any leaks like old hn2 alpha times. Just devs's posts

[ancient marten]

kk cool

[sturdy field]

Scott Cauthon

[untold grotto]

don't expect a big budget movie

[sturdy field]

Only thing can save this movie is who plays ted just like smurfs movie

[ancient marten]

what are they gonna do with it like the whole hn1? with the act3?

or antoher style

[proven bough]

That's what happens when Tinybuild actually lets Nikita have full creative control over a game 😔 Finally gets a more unique and creative style

[untold grotto]

lets move on #hello-neighbor

[sturdy field]

I almost pull my shotgun

[hollow coral]

#nikita

[sturdy field]

Very true btw

Beatiful weird

[proven bough]

I wonder if we'll see Nicky in some way shape or form

[harsh tundra]

Of course, I would like to see Niki in HN3, but there is no reason for his appearance. : /

[ancient marten]

maybe the neighbor or the guest kidnaped him

idk

[harsh tundra]

then it doesn't match the story of the first part : /

But I wouldn't be surprised if the plot is rewritten again

[slender frost]

What do u think happend to the neighbor in hn3

[hollow coral]

age

[slender frost]

Could be

[harsh tundra]

He's aged

[slender frost]

Like did he die of old age

[harsh tundra]

no

[sonic aurora]

What are you guys thoughts on the HN3 so far?

For me: I Think it's going great. I think the story in it and probably the lore would work in this game better than the previous games, not that I hate HN 1 or 2 or anything. But I just hoped this game would have a good fleshed out, flexible makable story in it.

I wish all luck and skills in our good man. Nikki 👌🔥

[slender frost]

Well i have not tried it but seeing YouTubers play it but i dont really think it matches sneaking into your neighbors house and solving whats in his basement

[sonic aurora]

Well, I know it's not the same story as a HN 1. I think you misunderstood my words or something

[harsh tundra]

Let's just say that the HN3 has a lot of potential. The main thing is that we get the game, and not empty promises, as it was with XN2.

[slender frost]

Honestly i only read like 3 words of what u said

[sonic aurora]

Hope so to. And I also kinda can't wait for AS season 3 too

[dark ingot]

theres neighbors and theres houses with a mystery alongside those, seems like a hello neighbo game to me

[sonic aurora]

I saw the new teasers, and from the looks of it. I could say: Alex and his team are cooking a great story. I hope season 3 could kinda clear up the lore and stuff. Even if it doesn't clear up all the messsy lore, lol

[sonic aurora]

I see

[harsh tundra]

I have a "good" translator!

[nimble walrus]

Spoiler alert! That's not Neighbours house and it doesn't look similar.

[light jasper]

Guys , why is neighbor like 6'4 in hn3 ?

[quasi wasp]

Well that's because it's this thing

It's really complex

It's called, fiction

[high brook]

i wonder how old nicky would look in hn3

and for that to be a thing we need a timeline too

[light jasper]

ik but like it doesn t make sense , because neighbor never was really a tall guy , he is like 5'11 or maximum 6ft

[tacit breach]

Woah where is this from

[celest plank]

is nicky roth named after nikita gghys

[cunning yacht]

in devlog 2 nikita said.
R - he dug a rabbit hole on his old childhood memory's (rabbit)
B - characters ave butterfly effects design (butterfly)
O - you can rewind time instead yo8u use your old save file (ouroboro, circling snake eating itself)
thats what the logo means

[high brook]

is there lore like this with the characters and stuff

[cunning yacht]

not yet. i never know

[daring gyro]

and then the animals wrote "r b o" and the logo went on fire

[high brook]

if they really did use an asset pack for the foliage i really hope they dont change them bc i really like them

[cunning yacht]

yo thanks for info. we realized rbo connects to the logo

i rearranged them

[pseudo spoke]

The logo has RBO in it twice, because the animals themselves are also in the shape of each letter.

[earnest cape]

Really good explanation.

Puts everything in the logo all together.

[cunning yacht]

yeah

didnt know that too

[tired dust]

E

[earnest cape]

Really neat how RBO is still incorporated in text for HN3.

[steep ore]

i keep getting this when i try to play the hello neighbor 3 playtest

[misty linden]

Have any have a picture of coned in 3d hn3

[gentle pebble]

.

This is all there is.

[dapper juniper]

coned does not have a model right now.

[fast mason]

and the pointing version

but yep

[misty linden]

Ok

[misty linden]

I feel like this is a rare photo of cone actually he use to point his hand too

What does the coned can even do?

[sturdy field]

Maybe he has strenght

Signed is normal
Covered(Coverette) is fast

[hollow coral]

we only have signed, jacob and iris for models

[frosty summit]

jacob looks so high

[sturdy field]

People with blue eyes

[oblique parcel]

I kinda hope mith can return in hn3 sure hn2 had him dead but like we don’t even know if hn2 is in continuity with hn3 at least not in the way we Think

Also i just want my boy back

He deserved better and he could easily be fitted into hn3 narrative Either as a detective or just some Guy investigating the town considering its state

[sturdy field]

Idk man, seeing old characters in game is good but we really need new characters

[oblique parcel]

And we Will Nikita personally wants 15-20 characters

[hollow coral]

I like that

[oblique parcel]

For me hn3 partially shaping up to the hn2 we Didnt get altough its defenitly different as well but you get what i mean

[wooden condor]

I don't think that he will be so "old" because hn3 story probably happens in 2017-2025's or in 2010-2017's

[wooden condor]

btw nicky came back to raven brooks in 2017

[sturdy field]

Ah I prefer new ones. Old characters need to be easter egg or something

[oblique parcel]

Mith was barely a chatacter in hn2 fg

Hes more of a easter egg in hn2

[misty linden]

[oblique parcel]

Well Either way im just happy guest is coming back

He might finally get justice lol

[sturdy field]

Ted and Guest need a justice

[oblique parcel]

The guest has insane potenial as a character with his cool design and everything

So its such a shame he barely got any time to shine in hn2 which to me was kinda supposed to be HIS game(alongside Theodore ofc)

[sturdy field]

He is predator and Ted is hunter

[misty linden]

🔥If Nicky return the neighbor will remember him and the fun just start

[oblique parcel]

Depends if hn3 is before or after act 3

[sturdy field]

Probably after

I really want to see how story ends

[oblique parcel]

I doubt this is the movie personally as its focused on the first game

Maybe its hn3?

[misty linden]

Today Alex CEO is at home ?

Like @blissful river said

[sturdy field]

S4?!

What

I thought there are only 3 seasons

[misty linden]

We went very far the cartoon

I wish hello neighbor could have act5 nicky stay at the raven brooks so this story will take place in hn3 to either

[wooden condor]

lol, i still can play prototype in steam

[misty linden]

Somebody have a mod of hn3 or not

[shrewd aurora]

hn3 relese

[nocturne coral]

hi, please indicate it's a fanmade

[craggy sparrow]

[shrewd aurora]

sorry, what is a fanmake?

[opaque summit]

They probably meant its fanmade

[misty linden]

Real bro ?

[shrewd aurora]

Yes

[shrewd aurora]

of course

[craggy sparrow]

I think hn3 is gonna have we team up with theodore to beat the forces of the evil forest cult

[opaque summit]

Maybe

[craggy sparrow]

And then nicky is gonna show up and say. The true treasure is the friends we made along the way

[shrewd aurora]

good theory

[oblique parcel]

I don’t Think the cult Will be in hn3 Ngl

I Think it Will only be the guest

[shrewd aurora]

this is a secret

[sturdy field]

Just shoot the guest

[nocturne coral]

we can't leave people spreading misinfos, please indicate if it's a fanmade or real

[vagrant notch]

Didn't he already do that?

[shrewd aurora]

I don't know, I forwarded it from another server.

[celest plank]

guys why cant they just keep the old guest design

[slender basin]

Just edit your original message text and say it's fanmade or a joke

[vagrant notch]

Because it's a bad design, and wouldn't fit the setting of the game.

[celest plank]

idk i like it

but yeah idm anyway

[shrewd aurora]

joke

[slender basin]

You have to edit the original message or we'll have to remove it

[celest plank]

wait actually yeah considering we saw peterson kill one of the crowfaces

he defo has some beef with them

[celest plank]

in the animated series

[shrewd aurora]

I deleted

sorry

[craggy sparrow]

We are gonna befriend the guest

[celest plank]

i doubt thatll happen

[craggy sparrow]

But hey

Thats just a theory

A game theory

[celest plank]

the guest isnt even a human probably so i dont think he'll even understand us

[celest plank]

lmao

[craggy sparrow]

I dont think he isn’t human just supernatural

[celest plank]

i cant wait for matpa to dissect hn3 frame by frame

[craggy sparrow]

Oh yeas

[misty linden]

That's okay

[shrewd aurora]

sorry

[misty linden]

Yeah the guest could be normal and the signed should be like this what you guys think so tell me .

[celest plank]

i love the guest so much

i hope that tall guy isnt the guest bro 🙏

[oblique parcel]

I love the guest too altough i just want to know what his deal is at this point lol

[celest plank]

guys do u think the forest dwellers are

placeholder for these guys

[misty linden]

Do you see the long guy with signed face photo ?

[celest plank]

yeah

[misty linden]

Bro can you explain what is placeholder mean idk

[celest plank]

like temporary stuff yk

that r gonna be replaced

[misty linden]

You mean in the future the model will be remake?

[oblique parcel]

Obviously

[misty linden]

Ok

[sudden moss]

prototype 1 kinda made no sense but ig it is a prototype and not like an alpha or anything

the forest dweller ai was weird

[clever pond]

Nikita , will there be a neighbor in the 2nd prototype?

[sudden moss]

also im genuinely not sure how i feel about the art style the lankiness of the characters is a lil odd

[sweet rapids]

Why?

It was clear for me

[chrome glen]

They’re changing it??

[frosty gyro]

Unhomeliness

[sudden moss]

what is this game gonna have to do with hello neighbor 1 or 2

[frosty gyro]

We dont know yet

[sweet rapids]

The neighbor

[sudden moss]

is that it

[cunning yacht]

will the neighbor was released at the full release of hello neighbor 3
im patient enough for that 🙂

[sudden moss]

did hello neighbor 2 even have guest in the game i cant remember

[cunning yacht]

yeah i think in beta

[sudden moss]

no im talking full release

[cunning yacht]

the patch 9 i think i dont remember

[sudden moss]

cuz he was in like every early build

[cunning yacht]

i saw there is a new location you could go. and its where the guest would be

[sudden moss]

my guess is the neighbor is gonna be there for like 5 mins in hello neighbor 3 bc thats about as much screentime he got in 2

[frosty gyro]

Neighbor had like most of the screentime?

[cunning yacht]

thanks for your info your much a best nerd

its not constant enough

it may be 2 min or 3

now

[sudden moss]

didnt he have only one level with him out of the whole game

which was the last level

[frosty gyro]

The museum

Had multiple levels

[sudden moss]

oh i didnt know

honestly i never beat the whole game myself i watched other people beat it after the bakery

im very much not a hello neighbor fan but i do wanna know where the third game is gonna go bc i was always joking about there being a third game before it got announced

[earnest cape]

This looks really nice.

[cunning yacht]

yeah bro

its so real

[earnest cape]

Ted was the antagonist.

[remote elm]

Id it just me but the inventory system bothers me.
It works the same as hn1 but hn1 is way more linear making it work fine but her it's kinda to small?

[earnest cape]

It’s in prototype stage so nothings near finalized.

[cunning yacht]

ted is secretly the main protagonist. he tried to take down crow villains
and he had a toolbox and a google for trying to save/fix the ferris wheel for amusement park after the park being sabotaged(or not)
but he has anger with trinity. so he looks like an antagonist.

[wooden condor]

So it from Nikita's post... it seems like there's will be a normal english (seems like only in prototypes, but i hope is not)

[remote elm]

I'm saying it now as that's the Best time for criticism.

[cunning yacht]

yeah i like that, it would be more realistic

[eternal rune]

Does anyone know if steam playtesters get the game upon release?

[cunning yacht]

obv not

[eternal rune]

Why's that

[cunning yacht]

Maybe

[icy canyon]

I don't think so in the case of HN3.

[potent spear]

Will hn3 finally get rid of wayron croobian

No more gibberish bs

[misty linden]

bro the game just release we need to wait

[mortal dove]

Its not gibberish

It just engliah but with letters changed around

[chrome glen]

Because the play test was free while the full game will be paid

[potent spear]

Ik but still I'm sick of it

I wanna be able to read without deciphering the text

[chrome glen]

I understand the frustration of it but I also liked it because it kinda gave more of the vibe of the town being weird and that we clearly don’t belong there

[mortal dove]

Fair. It does feel like croobian messed with the story telling of the games sometimes. Like sometimes it was redundant like with "hepl me". Another issue is inconsistency. Like raven brooks is meant to be wayron croobs but then the hn2 school dlc has it be something completely diffrent

[sturdy field]

Finally! Language update

[delicate jasper]

will peterson be in hn3 ? sorry for my bad english bruh

[sturdy field]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1284131080043102379/1344733615480639631/Neighbor_4.png?ex=67d12585&is=67cfd405&hm=7b2537890bc0634c77a40720d9641b2f6edc222f60d92b0d17f22bd0dad7ce20&

[delicate jasper]

hell yeah

[sturdy field]

Nikita's style is very good

[wooden condor]

But, it will mean that it's alternative universe

[cunning yacht]

Its gibberish 😭

[wooden condor]

But i think all that changes from game to game is just a retcon

[sturdy field]

Basic language is better

[cunning yacht]

That's just how the game is, it's not going to change

[sleek oasis]

I’ll be honest it does feel quite nice (In prototype 1 at least) to be able to immediately understand and pick up on In-world text. I think croobian has a lot of charm but it’s not great if the environmental storytelling isn’t quite there, as someone above stated, it does make sense to a degree and it does absolutely convey the sense that you’re a stranger in a stranger town, however it also makes the player somewhat detatched from every source of information (and events) in the world. And granted HN fans are able to understand croobian but many people who might not be as knowledgeable will not and might simply dismiss it as wacky nonsensical flavour text. And yeah in some cases it does feels unnecessary and also incredibly silly. (The “Hepl me” example especially.) In my opinion HN3 should keep Croobian but use it only for stuff that the player isn’t meant to read to get the basic gist of the events, it can still be around but there should also be normal english for stuff that any player will want to know and read at least in their first playtrough.

[mortal dove]

you can actually translate it to english. Its not

[pseudo spoke]

It is by definition, NOT gibberish.

[mortal dove]

gibberish is when you spam letters with no meaning

[sturdy field]

I agree

[delicate jasper]

yeah me too

[mortal dove]

like qeqhthse. Croobian actually has some sort of structure to it and you can somewhat translate it. Like "simming" for example you can tell its meant to say "missing"

[cunning yacht]

Its gibberish

[mortal dove]

lil bro does not know what gibberish means 😭

[cunning yacht]

Okay egg

[delicate jasper]

bruh

[mortal dove]

that seems fair.

[pseudo spoke]

I do like the regular English, and I think it works out better for the game overall. Still like Wayron Croobian though.

[mortal dove]

I wouldnt mind croobian being gone

I always felt croobian held the games back a little bit

[sleek oasis]

depends. Though i’d argue the “Hepl me” text is the biggest offender of that. I saw people laugh to it despite how it was clearly depicting a serious thing.

[cunning yacht]

Help* me

[sturdy field]

halp me

[sleek oasis]

even thinking about it. it is a little funny how they had to specifically even make a message as simple and effective as “Help me” into croobian accidentally undermining the tone. Granted one can easily understand what it means but that also makes you wonder why they’d even bother and so it just loops around being a little funny.

[mortal dove]

yeah it like genuinely harmed the scene

[sleek oasis]

Most people did totally understand its implication but were rather busy laughing at how it was spelled.

[earnest cape]

One of things that held back this franchise with its storytelling is how limited it is, no VA can’t even get dialogue and the world around you can’t even be understood, leaving all storytelling down to how they construct scenes, character movement and expression, which makes it a lot harder, an example of how limited the storytelling is would be HN2 most people don’t even know the ending was because The Cult, but since most of that is barely able to be figured out in game in a normal playthrough you would never know that and the ending is just confusing, I hope with HN3 the Team is able to figure out how to piece storytelling together once/if they bring back “Wayron Croobian”

[earnest cape]

Removing “Wayron Croobian” from the games from here on would be beneficial but it’s became some sort of staple for the games.

[earnest cape]

Such as the welcome sign in each game having its iconic “Calwom oot Wayron Croobs”

[mighty orchid]

You can keep the sign but have something else refer to it as raven brooks

[lost stream]

English: Wayron Croobs
English (simplified): Raven Brooks

[mighty orchid]

Yes I’m aware but I was adding in to what was said above about the welcome sign.

[sleek oasis]

To be fair, HN2’s attempt of redoing the first game’s catalyst and also the cult/golden apple shenanigans was incredibly detrimental to a streamlined plotline, without counting the fact that both aspects are done very poorly plus the cult stuff being unfinished. I believe it depends on the form of story telling. The games don’t necessarily need dialogue but they could use and find strong storytelling when it comes to cutscenes, atmosphere, and environmental storytelling. HN2 has sparks of that, with the paper planes in the street leading to the museum, and overall back to school just having a somewhat alright balance of environmental clues and the OST for it really conveying its tone. That’s kinda it though.

[oblique parcel]

Yeah personally i hope wayron croobian isnt in hn3 because they could add more lore and stuff that you could actually read from lets say an old newspaper

They could add some info on it that the players could find

[grand jay]

That bus stop photo of Prototype 2 has phenomenal lighting!

[sleek oasis]

I don’t think note reading is needed but small stuff that can leave a lot intended or up for interpretation could work absolutely. The fact that you know for a fact that the storm is coming in prototype 1 really gives it a feel of existential dread.

Watching Jacob and Iris attend the cancelled festival thanks to your help and interference while knowing full well that the storm will come makes it an incredibly bittersweet existential moment. Can’t say i’ve felt that in any other game much.

[oblique parcel]

I hope They make the guest a menace in the game

Nikita Said in a interview on youtube that guest was originally mean’t to look taller and less fat and also wider shoulders

But it Didnt get translated well into the Model so he was like normal sized, round belly and small shoulders

He defenitly looked slightly more monsterous in art to me

[misty linden]

Is nikita is the onwner of the hello neighbor game ?

[severe merlin]

Nope. The tinyBuild company owns Hello Neighbor franchise.

[misty linden]

Ok you make one of the franchise right

[severe merlin]

I created original game (and all its alphas), Hide & Seek, Hello Guest, HN2 up to Alpha 1.5 and somewhat helped in different ways to create other HN games and stuff.

[opaque summit]

Wheres that art from? I've never seen it

[misty linden]

i really excited to play your prototype 2 soon as possible

[pastel basin]

are you guys using lumen in prototype 2?

[severe merlin]

Yes, but you can turn it off (just like in Prototype 1)

[misty linden]

may i ask what is lumen

[pastel basin]

coolio

[misty linden]

huh

[severe merlin]

Lighting System in Unreal Engine 5, that help to create life-like lighting effects as well as reflections (similar to raytracing technology)

[gentle oar]

do we still have access to hn3 prototype 1 after the playtest is finished?

[oblique parcel]

Well no

[harsh tundra]

Is the 3D model of the neighbor ready?

[oblique parcel]

No

[untold grotto]

no

[gleaming flame]

Here is a humble fan of hn3

hello

Living in Spain but Russian by birth

[harsh tundra]

cool

[cunning yacht]

hmm would it?

the artstyle changes in every game. its how the player remembers the world

[pastel coyote]

hello

[misty linden]

Ok

Wow covered hated the neighbor

[untold grotto]

dont use fandom 😭

[misty linden]

Sorry bro it's says wiki

[untold grotto]

wiki is running by fans

and fandom wiki is abandoned

move on wiki.gg

[misty linden]

By the way it's nikita the same person that in hello neighbor 3 develop 2 ?

[untold grotto]

nikita is the guy who makes devlogs

all of devlogs

[misty linden]

Is it Him in the video right?

[untold grotto]

hes lead game designer/creative director for hn3

[untold grotto]

yep

[untold grotto]

also the CREATOR of the franchise

[misty linden]

He is in the videos right the develog

[untold grotto]

yes

[misty linden]

Is it possible that hn3 is multiplayer game ? I seen some footage tho 🤔

[oblique parcel]

No its not not anymore

[untold grotto]

it was multiplayer

but they scrapped it

for reasons

[misty linden]

What you mean so

[severe merlin]

Watch first devlog, I explain it there https://youtu.be/gJ0RidAdHgs?si=ASmE16tXX5_OOiB6

[oblique parcel]

Btw Nikita how hard was it to turn hn3 from multiplayer to singleplayer? Assuming its the same Project as rbo

Ik the rbo prototype was a seperate one but im not sure About the later rbo footage stuff if that was also a seperate Project

[misty linden]

👍

I think is different house I love the second house

[severe merlin]

Well, its always much easier to turn multiplayer in to singleplayer than other way around. We just created new project and imported only stuff we need from multiplayer version. It took some time, but nothing crazy. As we were still in pretty early stage of development.

[pastel basin]

would it ever be possible to release the multiplayer version or are you held by NDA?

[oblique parcel]

Well Wasn’t the core gameplay loop not Even finished?

[misty linden]

I didn't post fanart I'm not finished yet I hope he see this LMAO