hn3-discussion

[untold grotto]

guest reveal devlog will be the best devlog

[covert kestrel]

hn3 devlog 2 is like hn2 devlog 1 but better

actually explaining stuff

[simple dragon]

devlog 2 was so good

[untold grotto]

he explanied ai in-engine

[simple dragon]

they just keep getting better

[untold grotto]

not like animation or

script

this is why its better

also the editing was also peak

[covert kestrel]

and we even have a prototype to mess around with it in

[blazing plume]

For now and everything regular

[covert kestrel]

also, something else

i talked a bit about this yesterday

you know the relationship status?

[pastel basin]

yeah

[covert kestrel]

all the ais see guest (the real one) as a "monster"

they made one specifically for the guest

but they could use it for other things

there could be multiple "monsters" at some point

[blazing plume]

Do you think we'll see in the final game the man with the cone-head?

[covert kestrel]

probably

[pastel basin]

guest exists in the project

[untold grotto]

cough cough fake neighbor cough cough

[covert kestrel]

theres a guest ai that wasnt packaged in

[blazing plume]

"Okay, but I didn't understand."

[blazing plume]

Oh wow

[gusty wasp]

İ haven't logged in for like 5 months what is hello neighbor 3😭

[dire night]

a game

[gusty wasp]

İ can see

[covert kestrel]

basically hn2 but a lot better

at least in concept

[gusty wasp]

There was another game

İn progress

[covert kestrel]

the prototype is small, but if it was expanded a bit it would be better than hn2

[gusty wasp]

Like an online one what happened to it

[covert kestrel]

rbo became hn3

[gusty wasp]

Oh

[covert kestrel]

and its no longer online

[gusty wasp]

That sucks

[covert kestrel]

it doesnt

[hollow coral]

I hope nikita release the rbo pre-alpha tho

[covert kestrel]

hn3 is very good

[hollow coral]

it reminds me of hn1 pre-alpha

[pastel basin]

hn3 is better than rbo

[gusty wasp]

Cool but i liked the concept of rbo

[white epoch]

Could rbo and hn3 be 2 separate games?

[covert kestrel]

no

[gusty wasp]

Tiny build be doing anything but fix secret neighbor

[pastel basin]

are we sure this isnt another "fake_" asset

[covert kestrel]

hn3 is basically:
all the ais have relationships with other ais, and the player, so like you can befriend or become enemies with an ai

[covert kestrel]

the ais have their own jobs and stuff

[gusty wasp]

That sounds interesting is it out

[covert kestrel]

and events happen

[frosty gyro]

A prototype

[pastel basin]

yea

[covert kestrel]

like the festival, or the storm

[gusty wasp]

İs it on steam

[untold grotto]

guys

[covert kestrel]

you can impact the events

[covert kestrel]

the prototype is

its good

but dont expect a full game

[untold grotto]

in hello guest, there was placeholder assets named "fake_itemname"

[gusty wasp]

Free right?

[untold grotto]

it would be because its a placeholder

[covert kestrel]

they were for the guest warning statue thing

[frosty gyro]

Yes

[covert kestrel]

its just a prototype

its free

[untold grotto]

theres 2 option

• theres a different character named Fake_Guest which is Tall Guy, and they used forest dweller model for it because they don't wanna reveal

• like hello guest, its named "fake_" cuz its a placeholder

[covert kestrel]

theres already a ch_guest though

even though we dont have it

[queen sapphire]

Who is Isaac?

[covert kestrel]

random dude in files

presumably the fourth member of town

who went missing

[covert kestrel]

why would they also call the variables fake guest

if it was a placeholder

[lost zodiac]

because it's a fake character that only appears to jumpscare you

[queen sapphire]

now the tall guy is 100% a guest?

[covert kestrel]

tall guy is either guest or fake guest

[dire night]

ok but how do we know that

i havent been keeping a track record of this stuff

[covert kestrel]

give me a second

[untold grotto]

not 100%

will see

tall guy would be the fake guest though

if theres a actual character named fake guest

[dire night]

oh

interesting

[loud karma]

the

[untold grotto]

people saying its named fake cuz its just for jumpacare not actual AI

[dire night]

are we gonna question why most of the town wears masks now

and even with the masks we cant see the faces under them

[idle crystal]

Probably to add to the effect the third game is supposed to have.

[covert kestrel]

if you were going around breaking stuff, and generally being a nuisance, why wouldnt you wear a mask

you wouldnt want to be caught

[idle crystal]

That's honestly gotta be the closest answer.

[cyan wedge]

Better question is why are there necks so deformed

[vagrant notch]

Nikita refers to them as “vandals” they where masks for the same reason a burglar or thief would wear a mask.

[dire night]

fair

[high brook]

but if they wear a mask why do they have the hoodie over their face in the first place

[woven lodge]

I wonder if Hello Neighbor 3's desktop icon will match the other two with the Neighbor's left side of his face.

[woeful summit]

part of the eerie design ig

it looks like a fever dream, especially with the broken houses etc.

[hot raft]

I was joking

[covert kestrel]

hn3 music (p1)

hn3 music (p2)

hn3 music (p3)

[untold grotto]

siarhei cooking

[covert kestrel]

not sure if these count as music but they sound kinda like it so ill put these here anyway

[untold grotto]

ambient

or ambiance

[covert kestrel]

first one is ambient

[untold grotto]

yea

[covert kestrel]

second one i have no idea why it exists

[untold grotto]

what is the second one though

[pastel basin]

why are the file names just numbers

[untold grotto]

aint its also same in hn2

[pastel basin]

idk

[untold grotto]

iirc its same

[covert kestrel]

hn2 has some files giving info like the names of them

hn3 doesnt

i had to go through the entire bnk

tall guy model

presumably

which just so happens to use the same naming system as the forest dweller

[dire night]

had a thought and it could just be because of style

but why are most of the towns skin color like

weird

some people are blue

signed is way to pale

theo is the only one with normal skin so far

[random parcel]

Hn 1 and 2 were so good idk why Eve hated them

[daring gyro]

look at dweller placeholder very deeply

[covert kestrel]

its an extremely basic coned model

which they used

[peak solar]

Y'know, this idea is similar to the original plan for HN2 back in the day

there used to be a guy who pretended to be the Neighbor for whatever reason

looks like the idea of an impersonator is being reused here

[daring gyro]

could it be, a fake guest?

[covert kestrel]

yeah i found that already

theres loads of stuff with that

[peak solar]

so good news

we haven't been spoiled about what the Guest looks like

[daring gyro]

ok but does anyone have any idea on how the ropes around the beak could be shaped

[pastel basin]

what else is in never cook

[covert kestrel]

nothing

[daring gyro]

cus like what the hell is this thing

[covert kestrel]

i thought the ropes were this thing

[patent stag]

Guys

[daring gyro]

na these are the shirt strings

the ropes like start from one side of the beak and end in the other

[patent stag]

there is alredy date of hello neighbor 3 devlog 2?

[covert kestrel]

it already released

[patent stag]

devlog 3 sorry

[covert kestrel]

no

[patent stag]

ok

thanks

[peak solar]

rope to tie the beak shut

probably to hide someone's head

[pastel basin]

mayhaps

[daring gyro]

yeah no but like how is it visualized because it's also two bones per piece

[simple dragon]

this is randomusers thing

idk

[vagrant notch]

Why would anyone's head be in there.

[peak solar]

Because it's a guy in a costume

[daring gyro]

look at the one i highlighted

[vagrant notch]

I keep seeing people say this, but it's pretty clear to me it's not a person, at least not anymore.

[covert kestrel]

that isnt the guest though

its someone pretending to be the guest

[daring gyro]

i still think that's aaron btw

[peak solar]

yeah, it makes more sense to just call this the Forest Dweller

[daring gyro]

his overalls match

[peak solar]

and the Guest... the Guest

[covert kestrel]

forest dweller/fake guest/person

or any other names we end up finding

[untold grotto]

its because

its not have anything expect jumpscare

[daring gyro]

simple character 🚬

[vagrant notch]

Where was that mentioned?

[untold grotto]

i dont think theres a character named fake guest

[covert kestrel]

its called the fake guest in the files sometimes

[daring gyro]

died 2022 born 2025 welcome back fake neighbor discourse

[vagrant notch]

What? the guest itself or the statue?

[covert kestrel]

the this thing

[vagrant notch]

That isn't the guest though 💀

[untold grotto]

theres no character named fake guest though, its just forest dweller and its named fake because its placeholder and like literally doing nothing

[covert kestrel]

its the fake guest

[vagrant notch]

It looks nothing like him.

[soft gulch]

huh?

[daring gyro]

it's a t(e)mp(orary) model of fake guest

[jade night]

Dude look at the neighbor like what

😭

[untold grotto]

its tmp model of the guest 🙂

[soft gulch]

i must of missed something because i didn't see anything referring to a fake guest of any sorts

[vagrant notch]

Why would they add a fake guest? wouldn't that just make things needlessly complicated?

[covert kestrel]

why would they call it fake guest if its tmp

and even if fake means tmp

[soft gulch]

they don't?

[covert kestrel]

why would they use the "tmp fake guest"

[soft gulch]

the rig isn't called fake guest

[untold grotto]

because its just jumpscare not actual ai

[covert kestrel]

the rig itself isnt called fake guest

[peak solar]

Another thing is that the Fake Guest's model is not set to cook

[covert kestrel]

and the only model we dont have is that of the tall guy

[peak solar]

or at least the character with his character bp

[vagrant notch]

The neighbors design (while different) is very consistent across all three games.

[soft gulch]

then what is it you are talking about? im really curious because i didn't see anything relating to any fake guest character in the files

[untold grotto]

the actual guest ai not used in proto, they only used part of it

this is why it called fake

[covert kestrel]

the forest dweller is called fake guest in most of its variables, as well as the old name of the bp

[vagrant notch]

You can look at any of his designs and instantly tell that it's him.

[covert kestrel]

forest dweller is also sometimes called "person"

persons model is set to not cook

[soft gulch]

i have to check that

[jade night]

Yes it's consistent in it's main features, but the proportions are different aswell as some other design choices.

Such as being much taller.

like most HN3 characters, long legs, short torsos.

[jade night]

if you apply that to the Guest/Fake Guest, you would generally get something like this.

[covert kestrel]

anyway i gtg

[untold grotto]

there wont be a character named fake guest 🙏🏻

[vagrant notch]

There is no fake guest, it's a filename, i've named a lot of things i've saved ridiculous things 💀

[daring gyro]

that don't mean shit congrats bro

[jade night]

lmao

[peak solar]

Okay then, let's just

wait until Playtest 2

he'll be in there anyways

[daring gyro]

i'm not waiting i'm evil and i wanna make this dude real

[peak solar]

I'm on team "Fake Guest is real"

[vagrant notch]

Everyone does that, you don't have to talk to me like that.

[daring gyro]

no i getchu but like that would not be professional in a work environment don't you think

[untold grotto]

its just same as hg

its because its a placeholder

[jade night]

Already textured pluh

[daring gyro]

why is beak closed

[untold grotto]

there wont be char named fake guest

[livid delta]

Dark deception mannequins

[untold grotto]

you will see

[jade night]

because the beak isn't finished yet and i'm too lazy to finish it

😱

[daring gyro]

fair

ok but cajn we talk about the fact that he would be so silly if he faces forwards and not up all the time

[soft gulch]

im sorry, but i can not find where this line of code is

[vagrant notch]

In super mario galaxy these things are called “sky trees.”

[soft gulch]

i've tried searching for the guest in the files and there's nothing

i can't find it

[jade night]

The way I did it here looked fine.

[frosty gyro]

Looks terrifying

[vagrant notch]

While not being in the sky or looking anything like trees.

So yes, even in a professional work environment this can be done.

[daring gyro]

it's still silly like tjat beak is huge now with the actual proportions

[soft gulch]

im literally super confused about this because i don't want to say it's fake or anything i want to believe im just not looking on the right part or something

but i have no clue

[daring gyro]

check BP_PersonManager

[white epoch]

exactly

[untold grotto]

fake guest is basically guest

you will see

[soft gulch]

ok i found it yeah

i'll look on the code to see what is this about

[pastel basin]

its funny because im pretty sure person model is just edited signed

[daring gyro]

🥹 we talkin about shit that will prob be gone in the next year or so
we truly back in 2021

the third loop of Neighbor has happened

[untold grotto]

hello guest all over again

[soft gulch]

yeah apart from the fake guest character being mentioned this code doesn't really say much from what i can see

this only says there's a fake guest character

[pulsar dirge]

This environment is ACTUALY unsettling

[soft gulch]

the tall man could still be the guest, and fake guest could just be a different thing completely

[pulsar dirge]

Ive crapped myself about 3 times now

[soft gulch]

or the name just doesn't matter

which i see being possible

[untold grotto]

there wont be a character named fake guest

[daring gyro]

where am i on the truth or fake spectrum if i think it would be aaron indipendently of if he is fake or not

[vagrant notch]

Say there is, what purpose would he even serve?

[untold grotto]

the fake guest is just placeholder of real guest

[soft gulch]

i don't think that's how it works but sure

[daring gyro]

coping is temporal
guest is eternal

[vagrant notch]

How does it work?

[soft gulch]

well like

if it's called "fakeguest" that has to mean it's a fake guest

simple

they wouldn't call a temp model or something like that fake guest

and i don't see why would they call it fake guest as an internal name

[vagrant notch]

“Fake” could be another way for them to say placeholder.

It's shorter then placeholder.

[soft gulch]

you can just put "tmp"

[vagrant notch]

I'm not denying the possibilty though.

[soft gulch]

that means temporary, which is what a placeholder is really

[vagrant notch]

There's supposedly gonna be more characters so some crazy guy pretending to be the guest is possible.

It could also be in reference to the forest protectors.

If they're are in this game, (which i hope not.)

[pulsar dirge]

Have u seen prototype

well forest dwellers aint same thing ig

[vagrant notch]

I have, i meant the full game.

Or later builds.

I don't think their in it right now right?

[pulsar dirge]

Yea they arent

forest dwellers are tho

AKA guest ppl

Can yall help tho I cant seem to get it on his hand

When I click it just sticks it to the statue

[heady canyon]

Wait nvm

[dreamy field]

you need to fix the statue before the npc put it there

[heady canyon]

Your not supposed to do that

[pulsar dirge]

wym

The statue had it on when I placed it

the dude cam and took it

then I gpot it back'

[dreamy field]

ohhh

that dude

ok

i dont know then

btw

you need that stick on giant wheel

to get the signal

[jade night]

the lightning rod will make lightning hit the stature and break it

[pulsar dirge]

do I want that

[jade night]

no

[pulsar dirge]

oh

[dreamy field]

@pulsar dirge

[pulsar dirge]

oh\

what giant wheel

[dreamy field]

look for it

[pulsar dirge]

oh ok

[dreamy field]

you gona find out

its giant tho

so you can see it

[high brook]

can someone PLEASE give me the textures for signed PLEASSEEE!!!!

[verbal stirrup]

RBO stand for “Raven Brooks Online”

[covert kestrel]

same

[covert kestrel]

they even made a variable called "tmp_fakeguest", which according to the fake guest deniers, would be temporary temporary guest

[pulsar dirge]

What do I do now?

the gen is on

I have the rod

[covert kestrel]

when the lightning strikes the generator, the ferris wheel will turn on

you need to ride it to the top

[pulsar dirge]

when does it strike the generator

what do I do w/ the rod

[covert kestrel]

you need to wait

the rod needs to go on the generator

thats all

[pulsar dirge]

the one in the ss?

[covert kestrel]

then just go inside the ferris wheel cabin and wait

[vagrant notch]

I believe the fake guest is supposed to be related to the forest protectors.

[covert kestrel]

the fake guest is someone pretending to be the guest

[spark cargo]

where to get prototype

[vagrant notch]

Well, that's kinda exactly what they do in the show.

[empty topaz]

does anyone know what font is used for hello neighbor 3 prototype 1 banner?

[pulsar dirge]

This 1?

[covert kestrel]

its most likely drawn

[covert kestrel]

yeah

[vagrant notch]

Yes that one.

[pastel basin]

so does this mean its a real thing

[pulsar dirge]

k ty

[covert kestrel]

fake guest is real

[midnight cloud]

what do y’all think the guest would look like in HN3 design?

like if he’s going to keep his HN2 design, or have the hood again, or just look the exact same

[pulsar dirge]

something uncanny and terrifying

[covert kestrel]

it looks like no more cape

[spark cargo]

hows hn3 guys? (without spoilers)

[covert kestrel]

its good

[vagrant notch]

Honestly his HN2 design isn't very good, i don't want him to look like that again.

[pulsar dirge]

Good

Graphics good

there is no spoilers to be had

theres 3 npcs that have no dialogue and no lore

the protoype is EXACTLY what it says

just AI testing

[covert kestrel]

3/4

[flat tinsel]

what is this

[midnight cloud]

the one with the hood?

[flat tinsel]

so, hello neighbor 3 is rbo?

[vagrant notch]

Yeah

[past cedar]

its the hello neighbors the third 🥉

[flat tinsel]

godly

[past cedar]

technically yes

[midnight cloud]

yea he looks just generic

[pulsar dirge]

Yup thats 3...

[midnight cloud]

his old design definitely overshadows

[covert kestrel]

its kind of 4 because of the forest dweller

[pulsar dirge]

so 3 and a half

[past cedar]

the hn2 guest design is cool it makes the guest more like mysterious imo

[simple dragon]

fake means that it is a faked version of what the guest will do in the game according to some people

[pine niche]

I'm new

[vagrant notch]

Hello new

[pine niche]

@vagrant notch hi

I joined a long time ago but I never got to the groups till now

What can I do

[flat tinsel]

who is this guy

[fading sail]

jacob

[covert kestrel]

fake guest evidence

[flat tinsel]

he just left in a car what is happening

npcs can drive

goty

[covert kestrel]

yeah

[fading sail]

he crashed

[covert kestrel]

you can stop him from crashing

[flat tinsel]

how?

[covert kestrel]

you need to repair the sign before he crashes int oit

use a screwdriver

wait for signed to break it, and then repair it

[flat tinsel]

okay okay, i will try

[pastel basin]

or you can take the saw that signed uses to break billboard

[flat tinsel]

what

[empty topaz]

do you know if there fonts that are similar to that

[midnight cloud]

why does he crash

why didn’t he stop himself

[maiden hornet]

prototype tomorrow

[low gate]

I mean it is a statue

[sharp fjord]

where does this fit into the storyline

[ancient crown]

Dude I love the vibe they’re going for with HN3

[sharp fjord]

same

[ancient crown]

It’s everything I want from HN
It’s becoming more mature and the new design is sick

[strange birch]

honestly i like the new peterson design. makes him fit with the vibe and feels less friendly than other entries in the franchise (yes im calling out s&r on that)

[grand jay]

Too bad his chin is ginormous

[strange birch]

always has been. if they keep it so he doesn’t talk, or if his mouth does move its the moustache that has all the expression, it could work

[grand jay]

I did some math and canonically he is in his Mid 70s

HN3 takes place a few years after the RESET DAY book which is another connection

[covert kestrel]

we do not know that

[grand jay]

i guess we don't

[covert kestrel]

hn3 probably takes place after gn2

[grand jay]

gn2?

i'm not familiar

[covert kestrel]

raven brooks disaster

[grand jay]

ohh

[steep umbra]

Hello

Is secret neighbour and hello engineer cannon?

To the Current hello neighbour story

[grand jay]

Every game is canon

We remember at the end of HN2 that the neighbor goes splat under a big crow but Aaron helps him. Chances are low that in HN3 he is the Main Antagonist.

[covert kestrel]

i doubt hn3 will have a main antagonist

[grand jay]

I hope the map is a reliable size

[unique turret]

maybe he will be an allie

[grand jay]

Possibly since nor Jacob or (Lady Jacob) have any experience with him

[tender stump]

it precisely gets struck by lightning at 3am

[unique turret]

lady jacob?

[tender stump]

iris is her name lols

[unique turret]

iris?

[grand jay]

I forgot her name

[unique turret]

its iris

[grand jay]

Yeah

[gentle pebble]

The Guest would be the main antagonist

[blissful river]

I love this tree

[fickle oyster]

I wish I knew how to draw a tree like that

[timber moss]

has anyone realised this, you can hide in the drawers

also what is this 💀

[midnight cloud]

the crows are dying

[timber moss]

good

[timber moss]

all they do is steal stuff

[jade night]

I use push to talk in vc's so I just spam a letter when im looking in servers lol.

[timber moss]

who wants to be friends (extreme humor wanted)

[midnight cloud]

yall think the neighbor in HN3 is the guest?

[compact slate]

idk

[covert kestrel]

we havent even seen the guests design yet

[midnight cloud]

but it could be implied that he shapeshifted as the neighbor

[covert kestrel]

guest isnt supernatural

no shapeshifting

[midnight cloud]

books?

VR?

he’s said not to be supernatural

[covert kestrel]

hnvr takes place in dream

[midnight cloud]

but clearly is taking a different route

[midnight cloud]

books

[covert kestrel]

reset days shape shifting is weird

it could be shapeshifting

or he could be taking off parts of the costume

or the smoke could be making him hard to see

[midnight cloud]

what about raven brooks disaster

[covert kestrel]

gn2s shape shifting is easy to explain

the whole drowning scene takes place in his mind

its the guest persona taking over

its like a metaphor

[midnight cloud]

eh

he’s still partially unnatural to a human

[covert kestrel]

the guest also "has flesh and blood like all of us" (when i asked alex if the guest was human)

[midnight cloud]

in the i believe scrapped ending of err forgot, he had some sort of super strength to throw the man in hat quite far in the air onto the car

or he’s just really strong

despite being really skinny

[covert kestrel]

thats an alpha, not canon

[midnight cloud]

still interpretions of the guest

[covert kestrel]

and at the time the neighbor was the guest

[midnight cloud]

this isn’t canon or true anymore?

[covert kestrel]

at the time the alpha was made it was

it might still be true

who knows

[shrewd zinc]

i dont think thats true

"locks dont keep it out, it gets in your head"

and the guest and the neighbor are straight up in two different places at once

in the animated series theyre also painted as clear enemies

[covert kestrel]

this has been confirmed by 3 seperate people

[shrewd zinc]

being flesh and bone doesnt equal not being supernatural

[covert kestrel]

it has literally been stated he isnt supernatural

3 times

actually more than 3 times

[shrewd zinc]

sorry to be evil like this

but may i ask for a source

[covert kestrel]

give me a second

[shrewd zinc]

alright!!

[shrewd zinc]

interesting

i wonder what their definition of supernatural is cuz like 😭

we see so much crazy shit being done by it

[covert kestrel]

almost always when the guest does things that could be considered supernatural it happens in dreams

or can easily be explained

[shrewd zinc]

theres still SOMETHING the forest protectors are worshipping though

[covert kestrel]

they are worshipping the guest

they do not realise its some random dude

[shrewd zinc]

i cannot buy them being that stupid bro

[covert kestrel]

noone in reset day was able to figure out its a random guy either

in gn2 only regina was able to figure out its ted

most people in raven brooks dont know who it is

or what it is

[shrewd zinc]

the as still makes things really weird under the assumption the guest is ted

i always interpreted the flesh and bone comment as its not immortal or made out of something above living beings

[covert kestrel]

in AS, we have "seen the guests true form in a way"

so presumably we have seen whoever it is under the suit

[midnight cloud]

i remember someone saying that they meant this as in something aside from having a human appearance

hence “some way” instead of “someone” but that’s just me following the crowd..

the thing i can’t get across is how unnatural the guest’s appearance is, how his head and face is going to look like with that weird body appearance

unless he’s revamped

[shrewd zinc]

the guest beind ted just seems to make a lot of things very strange

[covert kestrel]

what exactly are you talking about here

[shrewd zinc]

alex is lying because itd be funny theory

[midnight cloud]

what is this guy’s face going to look like bruh

i don’t think he even has a neck

i don’t want to assume he’s seriously disabled

[woven lodge]

That is his face, he is just a really big crow.

[midnight cloud]

alright so he’s no longer human

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-gif-10718565837335930049

[woven lodge]

Well we all know it'd just be boring if he was just some guy.

Especially considering the feats he does on a daily basis!

[midnight cloud]

and we all know it be boring if he was just some crow who was outcasted by his own kind for looking funny

[woven lodge]

Didn't he like turn into a regular crow in the show or something though?

[covert kestrel]

no?

the only time hes done that is during a dream in hnvr

[midnight cloud]

what if it’s not a dream and we’re dreaming of a real scenario being a dream 😔

[woven lodge]

What if we all get banned for not talking about Hello Neighbor 3 in #hn3-discussion?

[midnight cloud]

that’s all you

[low gate]

What

anyway

somethings up with guesty

[midnight cloud]

he’s just there

[vagrant notch]

He was never human, the idea that he is contradicts every aspect of his character.

[midnight cloud]

enlighten on this response

prey tell

[vagrant notch]

Well from day one he's been purposely given animalistic characteristics, his animations are all very “twitchy” and purposely give him animalistic mannerisms, the noises he's had since alpha 1 also all sound like their coming from an actual creature rather then a person.

[midnight cloud]

he could be some insane guy mimicking noises

i don’t believe that he’s human though

but do continue if you need to

[brave flame]

Any time I make hn3 sketches it’s chaos.

[vagrant notch]

This is reaching but it's also relevant, he runs out onto the road like deers or other animals often do in accidents.

[midnight cloud]

so what is he suppose to be

i use to think he was a manifestation of anxiety for Ted before him actual being physical to others

he’s definitely not some failed crow obviously

[brave flame]

Maybe he’s some ancient being

[midnight cloud]

maybe he really is supernatural

😤😤😤

wrong channel unfortunately 😔😔😔

[vagrant notch]

That's a good question, i kinda view him the same way i'd view a wendigo, or werewolf, just a feral semi human creature.

[midnight cloud]

he’s definitely related to being able to control bad luck and the crows without any technology right?

[brave flame]

Aight I’m resending them in the basement I guess

[oblique parcel]

Well lets talk About it in lore discussion i Will talk as well

[vagrant notch]

Sure

[frosty summit]

hn3 amazing

[royal solar]

i love this guy so much hes so cool :33

[frosty gyro]

Cool render

[royal solar]

gosh hn 3 already has so many loveable characters i cant do this💔

[royal solar]

thank u

i did this out of boredom this morning

[oblique parcel]

Looks great!

I love the characters so much already tbh

[reef basin]

Jacob lore:
💥🚗 🏃‍♂️🌲👹🧍‍♂️🗣️🗣️
XD

[royal solar]

😔 not if you save him

[royal solar]

Thank you ^^

me too to be honest. all of them are so loveable

iris and jacob are so cool

[sage valve]

forest dweller

[oblique parcel]

I just know the guest is gonna look creepy as hell if they made the Neighbor so creepy

😭

[royal solar]

YEAHH like the uncanny feel of him

i cannot wait to see him properly in the game

[oblique parcel]

Hes problaby my favorite hn villian Peterson is too ofc but design and mystery wise i Always loved guest a lot

[royal solar]

also shouldnt we slowly start calling him the forest dweller isnt that him ?

i lowkey really like that new name

[reef basin]

Wild Cone

[oblique parcel]

I can discuss in prototype chat

Wait a sec

[royal solar]

Oh yes yes i forgot there is a chat for it specifically

[sage valve]

iif you repair the billboard: 🚗 🏃🏼‍♂️ 🛒

[reef basin]

KAW🗣️🗣️

[reef basin]

If you enter to his house:🏃‍♂️👊

[hollow coral]

virus

send a picture of what it looks like then

[hot torrent]

10 minutes

[blissful zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058564244611797024/1345702465231781949/Untitled.png?ex=67c58295&is=67c43115&hm=31dcf1029aa57a7b1e1594b6f686156296b331d97a0c11d2d2dccfb84fca5f8c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1440&height=437

stitched together the height chart since we dont have it yet

[grave plinth]

return shadow boy

[lunar trail]

I made a higher quality one, and without the subtitles

[untold grotto]

ig there is the guest on the far right

and when the guest is revealed they will shown the full version of it

[blissful zinc]

yeah, this is better

[real spindle]

he looks like he has 2 chins

[timber moss]

did you guys know: in prototype 1 while jacob is driving, signed breaks a bilboard that causes jacob to crash

because jacob crashes he tries to use a shortcut to get to his destination

but gets caught by the dweller

you can prevent that from happening if you fix the billboard

[grave plinth]

i think everyone knows that already

[empty sparrow]

Guys, is Prototype only available to play during weekend, or i'll be able to play it after weekend, if I already claimed it

[untold grotto]

you can play

[nimble walrus]

I just noticed that in art, Jacob has a glove but in Prototype build he doesn't have it

[untold grotto]

because its his new concept art

the one in the prototype is old model

[soft gulch]

Yeah that's his revised design

[untold grotto]

they will model New jacob when they hire a character modeller

iris too

also signed

[soft gulch]

Yeah

[untold grotto]

signed model made by nikita in like 2-3 hours

and its a placeholder

[soft gulch]

Signed is in need of more texture detail

[gilded scaffold]

how to get hello neihgbor 3?

[untold grotto]

steam

[soft gulch]

He only has one texture, no roughness map nor a normal map

[gilded scaffold]

its unrelased

[untold grotto]

click on Request access to rbo playtest

it will give you hn3 playtest

[gentle pebble]

Does anyone have a high quality image of the Ferris wheel

[gilded scaffold]

ok\

[rain pebble]

thats a triple chin btw

[nimble walrus]

Oh okay!

[rain pebble]

he reminds me of someone in a cartoon movie ngl

[tight mesa]

looks like a picaso

[sage valve]

can i still download rbo?

[fossil brook]

This is the best game idea ever! I have been wishing for a coop Hello Neighbor game for ages now 🙏

Thank you so much Tinybuild!! <3

I will def buy it asap :D

I'm so happy! This made my day. :))

[lunar trail]

HN3 is not gonna be coop

[sonic birch]

Is that meant to be funny or what

[real spindle]

looks like an eggplant

[tight mesa]

no

[feral sinew]

Does HN3 use lumen?

is it UE5

[tender stump]

yes to both

[feral sinew]

oh no

[tender stump]

its very unoptimized

but they are aware and are working on it

[feral sinew]

that's why the difference between GO epic and medium in performance is HUGE

yeah, i understand

[tender stump]

my go-to settings are putting everything to epic, but turning shadows down to medium and global illum to low

that makes the game still look good while providing high fps

[feral sinew]

yeah i put them on med

off the bat i'm just saying add motion blur slider and vsync for production

can I super throw

[tender stump]

there is no throw at all right now

but they have it in prototype 2

[feral sinew]

oh cool

[tender stump]

definitely vsync 😭

there is crazyyy screen tearing in hn3 for me

[feral sinew]

for me it's not crazy but it's definitely noticeable

damnit i lost the statue

[pastel basin]

uuu r.vsync 1

[tender stump]

i can also just do that with the config

[feral sinew]

is this using TAA?

[tender stump]

yeah

[feral sinew]

and TSR?

[tender stump]

i dont like TAA but if you switch anti aliasing modes in the config files it looks pretty bad

not sure about TSR

[feral sinew]

it looks like it's using upscaling

[daring gyro]

go in any bush and check for yourself, you will be hunted by ghosts of the past

[tender stump]

yeah

[feral sinew]

probably looks really raw

[tender stump]

i hate the upscaling lol

[feral sinew]

just did, wow that's a lot of ghosts

[tender stump]

i dont have anything against it in theory but it looks really bad here

[feral sinew]

yeah

probably using it to get it to run

[daring gyro]

it's also not the latest and it sucks even more

[feral sinew]

don't blame them, UE5 is a mess

[tender stump]

this was how it looked like when i switched it to MSAA

[pastel basin]

wheres that

[tender stump]

its easier on the eyes for me but it looks kinda weird

[feral sinew]

what stopped them from using UE4 tbh

[tender stump]

especially things from further away get super pixelated

[untold grotto]

hello prototype 2

[feral sinew]

wow you can really see the textures

[tender stump]

im pretty excited for it

[daring gyro]

"""improvement"""

[untold grotto]

peak

[untold grotto]

as far as I know they always use the latest engine version

[tender stump]

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings] r.Lumen.HardwareRaytracing=0 r.DynamicGlobalIlluminationMethod=0 r.AntiAliasingMethod=3

[untold grotto]

nickys diaries was the first ue5 hn game

[pastel basin]

youll finally get to explore the town concept area

[tender stump]

ignore the first 2 commands, its just r.AntiAliasingMethod

i tried disabling lumen while staying on epic

but it didnt rlly work

you can add r.VolumetricFog=1 to the config to force volumetric fog on while having shadows at medium

it doesnt really cause lag that much and it looks nice

[tender stump]

AppData\Local\HelloNeighbor3\Saved\Config\Windows

create a new file called "Engine.ini" and paste what i sent into it

[pastel basin]

alrightie

[tender stump]

remember to set it to readonly after saving the file because HN3 tries to delete it for some reason when you launch up the game

[feral sinew]

they gonna have a benchmark or smth

interesting

[tender stump]

this is what i have in my file, but very little of this stuff actually does anything:
[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings] r.AntiAliasingMethod=2 r.ScreenPercentage=75 r.DefaultFeature.AntiAliasing=2 r.PostProcessAAQuality=4 r.TemporalAA.Mobile.UseCompute=1 r.TemporalAA.R11G11B10History=1 r.TemporalAA.UseMobileConfig=1 r.TemporalAAPauseCorrect=1 r.TemporalAACatmullRom=0 r.TemporalAA.Algorithm=0 r.TemporalAA.Quality=2 r.Upscale.Quality=5 r.VolumetricFog=1 r.SubsurfaceScattering=2 r.EyeAdaptationQuality=2 r.BloomQuality=5 r.MotionBlur.HalfResGather=0 r.MotionBlur.Directions=16 r.MotionBlur.TargetFPS=0 r.MotionBlurSeparable=1 r.MotionBlurFiltering=0 r.MotionBlur.Scale=1.0 r.MotionBlur.Max=5 r.AmbientOcclusionStaticFraction=1 r.AllowPointLightCubemapShadows=1 r.AmbientOcclusion.Method=1 r.AmbientOcclusionLevels=3 r.AllowLandscapeShadows=1 r.HighQualityLightMaps=1 r.LightCulling.Quality=1 r.MaterialQualityLevel=3 r.ParticleLightQuality=2 r.LightFunctionQuality=3 r.RefractionQuality=3 r.LightShaftQuality=1 r.GTAO.Downsample=0 r.DFShadowQuality=3 r.HFShadowQuality=3 r.MaxQualityMode=1 r.ShadowQuality=5 r.SSGI.HalfRes=0 r.SSGI.Quality=4 r.SSGI.Enable=1 r.AOQuality=2 r.FilmGrain=0

woopsie wall of commands

[feral sinew]

yeah the non volumetric fog looks kinda

interesting

[feral sinew]

I added this and it doesnt look like it did anything tbh

oh wait it resets the file if you close the game

[paper ledge]

Hey guys, does anyone have any news about the music from the second devlog?

[untold grotto]

its peak but nikita didnt post

[upbeat sundial]

you can tell that this guy plays hello neighbor

[untold grotto]

vgn

[paper ledge]

uh

okay

thanks

[patent geode]

@hybrid veldt qual e a sua opinião do prototipo do HN3

[real spindle]

VGN

[woeful summit]

what's the lore behind this 😭
did everyone in ravenbrook just leave and now it's filled with masked figures?
How would this tie in with Act 3 ending of hn 🤔

[pure tree]

how to play it

[untold grotto]

they're vandals

[pure tree]

in prototype?

[untold grotto]

steam

[pure tree]

i find it

it calls rbo

[untold grotto]

yes

they forgot to change it

[pure tree]

thanks

[pastel basin]

wow it looks good and doesnt run like shit????

[grim lark]

Everytime i come across his cameo truck by the valve, I throw him off the building

[cobalt oyster]

wuh

[cobalt oyster]

how do i even play this

where

i still got prototype 1

[untold grotto]

you cant

[cobalt oyster]

where did bro get the screenshots from

[untold grotto]

devlog

[cobalt oyster]

oh dawg

didnt watch it

[grim lark]

Yay! Mr Gooseman!

[twin wasp]

waiting this so bad😭

[spring wind]

prototype 2 will be a separate game or an update to prototype 1

[grand jay]

Did anyone notice that the Neighbor is no longer wearing gloves? Maybe showing he redeemed himself?

[restive oxide]

Or maybe cuz it's been years and no one is gonna wear gloves that long

He wears them in HN2 cuz HN2 happens RIGHT after act 2

[grand jay]

right

but he wears boots now not shoes

[restive oxide]

Prolly something w/ lore or maybe in the full release it will have a cutscenes or smth of him putting them on for something

[grand jay]

I think seeing a full modeled Mr Peterson would be cool

[gentle cliff]

He lives in a abandoned town now so their is probs not many places to get Shoes or gloves so he has to find cloths in the trash or something

[grand jay]

Yeah that sounds right

I'd like to see Aaron become an NPC

That would be pretty cool.

[spring wind]

.

[untold grotto]

seperate

[spring wind]

Thanks

[daring sable]

how do we know this

[untold grotto]

its literally made from scratch

[hollow coral]

what really?

[untold grotto]

yes

[hollow coral]

so they just decided to make a prototype then get rid of it and start again

[daring sable]

what? this is misinformation

[untold grotto]

prototype 1 was just testing basic ai and simple mechanics

all of these were developed in prototype 2

the devlog ai is on prototype 2

[hollow coral]

ah

so it was more of a test

[untold grotto]

its also a test but more detailed

[earnest cape]

What’s up chat.

[hollow coral]

do you think there's any leftovers from RBO Pre-alpha in the prototype?

[blissful river]

sadly not

[untold grotto]

didnt find too much about it in files

theres sliding

but nothing much

[blissful river]

at least not model-wise.

[hollow coral]

ooh

I really do hope RBO Pre-alpha gets released one day

[hot raft]

Why ?

[hollow coral]

because it looks really cool

[hot raft]

Now that i think about it gravity Falls town also has kinda of the same theme and feel

[daring sable]

rbo was an online game, i dont think it will come out again

[hot raft]

As HN3

[obsidian frigate]

really?

[daring sable]

(pretty sure gravity falls inspired the animated HN series)

[hollow coral]

lol

[hot raft]

Oh I didn't know that

[hollow coral]

maybe but I hope the pre-alpha is released

[daring sable]

yeah tb literally released a vid of the HN animated series intro with the gravity falls music

[daring sable]

most likely not

[hollow coral]

😦

the image of it looks so cool

[hot raft]

Maybe they could be Easter eggs referencing Gravity Falls

[daring sable]

they arent rlly known for re-releasing online versions of games

[frosty gyro]

Theres gameplay

[hollow coral]

I think I've seen it but where can I watch

it

[daring sable]

youtube

[frosty gyro]

#work-in-progress

[untold grotto]

https://helloneighbor.wiki.gg/wiki/RBO_Pre-Alpha its basically everything we know about pre alpha

[hollow coral]

damn they really did use assets from it in hn3 prototype 1

[hollow coral]

yeah read it all multiple times lol

[untold grotto]

why they wouldnt

[hollow coral]

the ui is the same lol

the inventory

[untold grotto]

as i said why wouldnt they

[earnest cape]

Nikita said they might bring back climbing which I hope they do, sliding and climbing would work well, especially with those little shafts in homes to slide through in a chase.

[hot raft]

I think they should focus on the core idea of the UI before prototype 3

[hollow coral]

mhm

imagine if there's a prototype 4

that'd be crazy if they made loads of protottypes

[gentle cliff]

I feel like climbing will make the gameplay so much better

[earnest cape]

I just feel not having it in the next installment when it was in the previous game and was a core gameplay part feels off.

[hot raft]

I think they should make aleast 3 prototypes then alpha etc

[hollow coral]

yeah then pre-alpha and alphas etc

[untold grotto]

well alphas will be the part of full gane

[earnest cape]

If that’s what they do, Prototype 1 was to test if things work, Prototype 2 to build an artstyle and AI along with making that HN style gameplay, Prototype 3 would possibly take it a step further before Alpha phase with polishing.

[hot raft]

And they should have crazy bug tester as bug testers that like finding bugs like crazing

[jovial light]

does anyone know what folder the fake guests rig is in

[untold grotto]

they alr have QA testers

[untold grotto]

*the guests

THERES NO SUCH A THING NAMED FAKE GUEST

ITS MISINFO

[hot raft]

Yea this feels ideal

[hollow coral]

there is

[jovial light]

its called that tho in the files

[untold grotto]

its because its a placeholder

[earnest cape]

So what Tall Guy is The Guest.

[untold grotto]

and not the actual guest ai

[hollow coral]

pre-alpha I think then all the alphas

[jovial light]

i was just calling it by its name srry 😭

[daring gyro]

it's the default skeleton

[untold grotto]

actual guest ai in prototype files

but forest dweller/guests fake ai alr using

its just fake version of guests ai

[earnest cape]

Or am I getting this wrong and it’s a different rig from him.

[untold grotto]

cuz forest dweller its not a actual npc

[earnest cape]

Yeah that’s good.

[untold grotto]

tall guy is sadly VERY SADLY the guest

[frosty gyro]

Not sadly

[earnest cape]

Wow…okay.

[gentle cliff]

Is the forest dweller the coned?

[untold grotto]

fake guest is just misinfo

[untold grotto]

its placeholder of the guest

[earnest cape]

If Tall Guy really is The Guest I both find that odd but cool, like he doesn’t seem to feel like The Guest to me but if they somehow make it work then I’m good with it.

[opaque summit]

i dont like that you can see skin

[hollow coral]

same

[opaque summit]

it would look odd

[daring gyro]

not misinfo just it's not called that anymore

[hot raft]

Does anybody knows when devlog 3 or prototype 2 is releasing

[untold grotto]

people thinks this is a new character called fake guest

this is why its misinfo

[earnest cape]

If they are going for a more grounded version of The Guest with him not being any sort of supernatural, then DAMN what the hell has he been eating.

[jovial light]

which folder is the rig in tho

[daring gyro]

\Game\HNMain\Characters\

[earnest cape]

If it is a supernatural version of The Guest (which I doubt since Nikita isn’t really someone who likes that idea), could be something like RD with how The Guest just evolved and became an actual Forest Protector.

[hot raft]

👨‍🍳🔥🔥

[daring gyro]

i think dweller is just called fake guest because it vaguely resembles the shape of him .like pretend the cone is the beak and all

[earnest cape]

Is that his actual model?

[untold grotto]

no right one is fanmade with official rig

[earnest cape]

Ahh.

[daring gyro]

no but i made it basing myself off of the images and the rig

[high brook]

does anyone have signeds textures? i really need them

[high brook]

tysm

[untold grotto]

for me its basically copying actual guest ai

but its not a ai

like its just jumpscare

[obsidian frigate]

nice textures

[high brook]

i know signed only has a diffuse texture but i could prob make more with photoshop

[earnest cape]

It sounds really good, but depends if Nikita is one to actually use that version of The Guest like in RD and GN2.

[hollow coral]

combine solier

*soldier

[daring gyro]

why is every image of this rig with a different bone structure when it comes to the ropes

[high brook]

isnt the ropes the hoodie strings? not just ropes

like it got translated weird

or somtin

[daring gyro]

no the strings are there and ther'es also ropes around the beak

[high brook]

im assuming its the guest with a hoodie or somtin

has anyone tried making more textures for signed yet? (like roughness normal metallic etc)

[hollow coral]

ha

[hollow coral]

wait but they must reuse some assets or some code right? at least something

well obviously models of people

[untold grotto]

yep

the gameplay, map, level design made from scratch

not like everything

[tepid flicker]

Misinformation

It's built off of P1

And P1 was partially built off of RBO

And RBO was made from scratch

[untold grotto]

as i said not everything

[tepid flicker]

Only after being questioned by Chazbrew (which I didn't realise )

Apparently HN2 was somewhat built off of HN1, so HN3 will be the first time since 2015 where the code is made entirely from scratch.

[daring gyro]

they still use some hn2 things

[tepid flicker]

Could you give an example?

I know they're using "HNMain" again.

[tender stump]

wait how do we know this, do the prototype 2 videos have things from the p1 map?

[untold grotto]

no

[tepid flicker]

I mean the code base, a lot of the assets etc.

[untold grotto]

dont think aidan meant map here too

[tender stump]

oh yeah of course

its definitely a steady progression they arent making a new game every time

but the map is definitely completely remade

[untold grotto]

prototype 2 really looks cool

[tender stump]

definitely

[daring gyro]

storm

[pastel basin]

if this is a prototype

[tepid flicker]

With the way Kryptqn originally described it, it sounded like he believed it was, but on clarification it's clear that's not the case.

[pastel basin]

im scared of what a pre alpha could look like

[grand jay]

No

[tender stump]

probably just the naming right? it'd be kinda messed up if they were seriously working off of the hn2 repo

even if remaking all the code

[earnest cape]

It looks good we just need an actual UI.

[tender stump]

itll come with time

[pastel basin]

i hope prototype 2 days last longer

[grand jay]

I wouldn't be suprised if they took some inspiration from the HN2 Alpha 2 open world map

[tender stump]

im sure prototype 2 wont land in our hands till like april

[pastel basin]

since one day in proto 1 is 5 minutes bro

[daring gyro]

the subsystem not actual storm

same for game time

[earnest cape]

Prototype 1s were quick because of how easy it was to get around, judging by Prototype 2 I’d assume 10-15 minutes per day cycle.

[sage valve]

alright now we need to add the cutscenes

[pastel basin]

yeah

the proto 2 map looks giant

[tender stump]

i assume they'll gradually slow down the days, the more features the AI's get

[untold grotto]

well prototype 1 was finished in december

[earnest cape]

It’s probably just because of the limited stuff we’ve seen it might be small.

[sage valve]

for sure i wonder if prototype 3 will include the cutscenes

[oblique parcel]

Nah

[sage valve]

yeah but it depends on whenever its gonna be actually big or nah

[grand jay]

Prob not

good chance on alphas but Prototype is unlikely

[sage valve]

it will be added on alphas then

[grand jay]

Hopefully

[sage valve]

but the hn1 prototype did have cutscenes despise being an prototype tho

if im right

[oblique parcel]

? No

[earnest cape]

Every builds going to most likely have a placeholder story till the FG, to avoid spoilers.

[icy breach]

Alphas had the cutscenes only

[marsh snow]

where can I request for the prototype?

[sage valve]

you dont need to get an key anymore the prototype is now avaliable for everyone go to their own steam page to join the "rbo playtest"

[marsh snow]

alr thx

[sage valve]

well yeah your right

[craggy sparrow]

Yo for real?

[earnest cape]

It’s true.

[craggy sparrow]

Epic

🫃

[earnest cape]

Search HN3 in steam and then scroll down till you see RBO Playtest and download.

[tepid flicker]

It would be so confusing to work with.
I can imagine one of the developers searching for "Box", intending to get the HN3 box, and ending up with a bunch of HN2 boxes showing up.

[sage valve]

also erm

i wonder if

its possible to download rbo

after it evolved into hn3

[earnest cape]

Didn’t really get rebranded, RBO was supposed to be HN3 before they moved to singleplayer gameplay.

[sage valve]

well alright but can i still download it

after it became singleplayer

[earnest cape]

Dont think so no.

[untold grotto]

rbo was always hn3

actually

hn3 was a thing before rbo

[tender stump]

it is possible to download

but only the builds we had before

so no indev builds

[sage valve]

from playtesting?

[proven bough]

...?

[untold grotto]

rbo was just codename

[proven bough]

yeah... Raven Brooks Online, because it was going to be a multiplayer game.

Doesn't mean it was "always" going to be HN3 😭

[untold grotto]

yeah its always hn3

according to nikita

[proven bough]

ok...

if u say so

[empty sparrow]

I made a sample map of Hello Neighbor 3 Prototype 1

[craggy sparrow]

Noice

[sonic karma]

Po polsku jest to najlepiej

[empty sparrow]

Zrobiłem to do własnego filmu na YT a nie na Discord więc tak

[sonic karma]

To sigma

[frozen mauve]

what laungage is this

[olive dove]

Guys, Do you think the graphics of HN 3 will change to a more similar to the Rest of the Series

[olive dove]

Polish