#Optimal Sordland/Rizia Setup Guide

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hybrid frost
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Hi fellas. I've put out a new guide to optimise Rizia's starting position. Tons of variables and options, very possibly typos and mistakes, so please let me know if anything doesn't fly. I've tested the hard mode runs and interpreted what the easy/normal variations would allow based off the ED/GB changes. Small chance of miscalculation but let me know if so. Easy mode is like stabbing myself in the eyes.

Please let me know if you guys run into any issues or have suggestions. There could be minor optimisation points but it's a pretty weird run so any feedback is great.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3578118565&searchtext=optimal+sordland

A guide for creating the optimal Sordland save to use in your Rizia campaign. Featuring alternate paths for Intermerkopum (Autocrat) and GRACE (Autocrat / Dictator / Reformist) as well as well as vari

hybrid frost
sage monolith
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You mention the helicopter synergy early on but then you address the protestors. Why is that?

hybrid frost
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oh probably just because I varied it. Helicopter is just how I refer to unrest.

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bit of a running joke since that's how I found the synergy

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where do I refer to it? to avoid confusion I may tweak it out

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ah I spotted it. yeah that was copied and pasted from the ED guide

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same decision, just hadn't tweaked the description - you should always visit the towns pretty much every run

glossy hare
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versed condor
forest python
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I will just say that for now the crime reduction for Rizia is bugged and is not reduced by destroying oligarchs/fighting crime. The part is in the code, but somehow doesn't trigger

hybrid frost
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The quirks of the code highlighted Lespia would be better for the run than Valgsland is.

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And L-1 -> H-3 works out mildly better also.

versed condor
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I'm curious, do any of Sordland's actions affect the negotiating power with any of the countries Rizia deals with? (i.e. Sordland trading with Wehlen gives Wehlen more negotiating power over Rizia.)

hybrid frost
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However in the improved run we won't be trading with Wehlen

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I've finished and tested the autocrat path, just need to test the other two which should be very straight forward but... we shall see.

versed condor
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Good to know. I was curious whether or not there was any.

hybrid frost
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I added in the dome bit to open up some dialogue but wehlen trade will fundamentally break the improved run, and I don't think I can justify that just for a cute dialogue line.

hybrid frost
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Steam Guide is back up:

  • WLA now possible on normal/easy (formerly just easy)
  • All paths now reduce national debt (-5GB)
  • All paths now get tax efficient economy
  • All paths can now end in peace/solo war/allied war
  • New Allied War is March on Thornborough
  • Included FC Anrica investment & victory
  • Minor ED/PO optimisations
  • Cut some fluff so it's shorter for Reddit
  • Removed corruption for Monica dialogue

Tested on Autocrat (Embargo)/Dictator/Reformist Hard Mode. Easy/Normal mode variations are inferred from the ED changes of those paths and same for Autocrat (No Embargo). Any problems, let me know.

Further changes: Tempted to look into guaranteeing a good Aschraf speech on each path (currently it's path dependent, so the guide says to skip it), and reverting to WPB ban on emergency - currently RY for same reason.

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I may look into paths to enable WLA on Hard, but as of right now it wouldn't be viable due to how ATA works.

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Variations: Draft variations are possible within reason, as is signing WLA on certain Autocrat paths, but since Monica is happy already this has not been included. Naturally Reformist can also choose peace without reps and I may add that in, but for now it's thematic for reformist to be that path.

hybrid frost
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Thanks to new discoveries, I'll be updating the Autocrat Paths a tiny bit soon. Changes are minor and don't really alter much in the long-term, but min max is min max so RIP me.

amber lotus
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In the Rizia channel a while back Veltarrox posted the conditions to get GASOM investment in Rizia. To do so you either need co-invest or to remove EPA. So, you can do full invest so long as you remove the EPA, no?

amber lotus
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Has this changed?

hybrid frost
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It doesn't work

versed condor
hybrid frost
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New improved version should be coming soon - had some time to work on it and test some paths - just like last time, more improvements can be made compared to the previous.

In addition to earlier challenges, this should include:

  • Balanced Budget (0GB)
  • Happy family (Monica/Franc)

Just having to do the tests, particularly on war elements and optimisations for lower difficulties (I know not everyone's sweaty 🙂 )

hybrid frost
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The updated guide is now on steam, soon to be on reddit. Apologies if any typos or whatnot, but I believe all should be accurate. Unlike the Max ED Guide (which just needs updating due to a higher ED cap in Sordland now), some key elements have been reworked in this to navigate the patch changes, so anyone part way through a run will need to double check they're still on track. Critical deviation starts as soon as the Regional Investment, with Bergia RI finally standing tall as the god walking amongst mere mortals. Let me know if any issues arise, or any typos are spotted etc... as it does sometimes happen in long guides. Big thanks to Ommack for helping test the paths (and identifying a key error!!) and Orange for helping get this out there.

pastel goblet
hybrid frost
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should say don't play rizia

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then a picture of you

brittle palm
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What ED do u end up with this play through?

hybrid frost
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It varies

mystic crypt
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@hybrid frost Why does your guide say to win FC Anirca isn't that a bad thing for the Rizian team?

hybrid frost
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Apparently not in terms of the campaign

astral oasis
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I thought CBRA+EIRA means yellow energy prices but apparently I am wrong

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what's the key factor that's keeping prices red in this guide?

mystic crypt
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I just needed the link

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I hate scrolling back up

mystic crypt
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@hybrid frost

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Can I still privatalize education?

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In your guide you didn't?

hybrid frost
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you need to follow the guide for it to work

mystic crypt
mystic crypt
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@hybrid frost Will there be a communist version of this?

hybrid frost
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No

hard nymph
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Good day
I have a minor question
In the steam guide it says to [support president for PO+]
Does this mean Alphonso or Soll

hard nymph
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So I've been doing everything fine so far except being a good family man
Does this mean that Alphonso will always be reluctant to Gasom welfare instead of supportive like this?

hybrid frost
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no he can be convinced to committ, though I couldn't tell you which exact picks

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I don't know if family stuff helps or not tbh

hard nymph
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I guess it's the prologue vote and feelings towards Soll loss
Thank you
I will try again

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I also just like rping Anton as being an absent father

hard nymph
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It seems that voting for Alphonso does indeed seem to make him switch from reluctant to supportive of gasom welfare

hybrid frost
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it does, but it is not mandatory

hard nymph
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Thanks

versed condor
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I believe how much you choose to invest in Gasom also affects it but solo investment at 49% means Rizia either can't invest or can't invest maximally.

wheat shadow
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@hard nymph try saying that you are in favor of Rizia investing in Gasom during the foreign policy meeting and in the welfare meeting say things like "we can compromise" and "Gasom needs us as much as we need them" and "there's a solution that helps the workers and the economy"

tranquil nymph
hybrid frost
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I should probably check the code and if true, add into the guide then

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I do this line but it didn't dawn on me it might be required

tranquil nymph
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It piqueted my interest because it shows in the journal. Code digging confirmed that it's importnat.

hard nymph
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Thank god this game has autosaves

hard nymph
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It's amazing how this run still gets centrist

hybrid frost
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Unfortunately I am the eternal centrist. Almost all my runs get it

tranquil nymph
hard nymph
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Is there anything in this guide that affects how smolak reacts in the rizia balancing trade deal

wheat shadow
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I believe that's all in Rizia

hard nymph
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I see
Must've done something wrong with Romus

hybrid frost
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Yeah I think the most is some dialogue from sordland. No options or mechanical things

visual swan
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I think there is dialogue about the funny man about OBT being a success if both Sordland and Rizia participates. I don't know if Sordland participation effects the value of Rizia participation in negotation or otherwise, but it might be good to look into

hybrid frost
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I don't really play much Rizia, so it's designed to set up what Rizia code divers have identified and tested as important

visual swan
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I see

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Excellent work then

hybrid frost
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If it comes out to be a thing I'll do changes to suit whatever people find of course.

visual swan
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Hell Yeah. Okay, Godspeed

hybrid frost
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I am already thinking of putting out a no trade war variant

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because even though people broadly agree trade war = good, there is a trade-off for the budget

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someone out there may disagree

visual swan
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Ah for personal taste

hybrid frost
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it's budget vs living standards

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people seem to prefer budget, but it's not... objective

visual swan
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True. Budget as early as possible is the most value because production buildings are nutty, but living standards dropping early on not-easy-mode is going to hurt alot

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Because living standards drop = PO drop (right?) and you get a PO nuke from hard mode Rizia (right?)

hybrid frost
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apparently, yes, and it specifically impacts the election

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though it is easy to get up

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just one of those things - slightly subjective but commonly agreed budget is better

visual swan
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Nice. I would just think that trade war with gasom 100% EPA dual investment would work out nicely

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Fluctuating prices and gasom investment and trade war? those are all rizia benefits

hybrid frost
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surging prices is objectively best, and raising EPA to repeal is objectively best, as is letting rizia invest, and as is arresting the oligarchs and using taurus/underhall

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but trade war is subjective

visual swan
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I actually had a couple of builds dependent on getting the gas from gasom investment but could never put aside the time for a proper sordland run. But I shouldn't be sharing my life story in this specialized subchat lol.

hybrid frost
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vendonesam is also subjective, but I think most agree it's bad to hurt them

visual swan
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Vendonesam is quite good on a peace run

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Gives military experience modifier from returning infantry units (I think?) and is relatively cheap PP

hybrid frost
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it's about if you win or not - you can reduce their chances of winning via sordland

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whether you want that is the subjective component

visual swan
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Ah I see I see. I didn't know that. How? Also cool lol.

hybrid frost
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your actions increase a variable called vendonesam support, which dictates if they win the war or not

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sordland can lower it by -2

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that is the autocrat isolate rumburg path of the guide

visual swan
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Right, but isnt the power projection reliant on how much you supported, not just whether they win or not?

hybrid frost
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in theory this means you can continue to contribute but still have GRACE lose

hybrid frost
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it's why I leave it in as a subjective path

visual swan
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Understandable

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Nice. Okay keep up the good work please

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God I sound like a fucking 95 year old boss

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Im trying to be supportive because this shit is cool af

wheat shadow
mystic crypt
mystic crypt
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Hahahahahahaha

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No updates...

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And I have done this still

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Cuz am bored...

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Of watching adds

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And following steps