Reading through the game files while losing my mind | Suzerain Universe | Page 4

buoyant sedge Mar 20, 2026, 10:25 PM

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Wait, could I maybe recover with tightened immi?

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nah, yellow prices fuck me over

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I mean energy prices, since I'm reverting EPA

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The good part of settlign for medium surplus is that I could, maybe, ban YS.

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I feel like the roleplay is good, they just shot a politician next to me.

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human rights concerns kinda suck

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 12:25 AM

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27 malenyevist points in the in-game testing. I could... skip 1 tick of nationalization to prevent the Oligarchs fleeing...? And go for Unrest synergy with not letting RY in + escaping with the helicopter.

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 2:47 AM

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How the hell do I call that run? Sollist-Reformist that has like 0 Sollist points? Ugh.

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 3:16 PM

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So @fathom tinsel , I'll require your assistance.

Bula said to pass articles 6&7 you need 1 PW lobbying with Oligarchs support, 2 PW lobbying without. Can you confirm or deny?

fathom tinsel Mar 21, 2026, 3:16 PM

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Block

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 3:16 PM

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also about that, uuuh

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 3:16 PM

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fathom tinsel Block

Unlucky.

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ProBlud, sure.
Not sure how to understand the 2nd check. Seems to be "semi-autonomy = false"??

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Do not sign RHB, sure.

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(CFB Signed + partial OBT done) = false. So it's either CFB or partial OBT I'm guessing? You can only do one or the other?

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Joint operation false, so no way to get full OBT

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Did not convince NFP, huh.

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Unfortunate, I was hopign full OBT would be possible

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I hate being unable to transfer Gendarmerie. It's stupid, and even the majority seems to prefer keeping it under Defense, but still.

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Yeh

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 3:21 PM

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buoyant sedge ProBlud, sure. Not sure how to understand the 2nd check. Seems to be "semi-auton...

I just don't get why BergiaSpecialZone_Proposal_Amendment has to be false? Or well, it doesn't, since I was promoting semi-autonomy and still met them, so then why/

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Im guessing this is the if we start early amendments

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OH Wait nvm

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This has to be early article amendments then:

BaseGame.BergiaSpecialZone_Proposal_Amendment == true

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let's see if there's any way to centralize while doing early articles

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Stupid game.

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can't see anything noteworthy about thta

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no way to get BaseGame.BergiaSpecialZone_Proposal_Centralization

Other than in that meeting, dialogue 91 was it?

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 6:46 PM

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Although, if I could make the operation succeed with Bron, then get Gracer to arrest him and replace him with Ersen, roleplay abolishing the SZB in the 2nd term

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But eh

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I’ll finish that playthrough and see if I get medium surplus comfortably, if so, I’ll probably stick with late articles

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 8:58 PM

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Good Aschraf speech can give you reconciliation, huh.

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I know you used to be able to change opression of the bludish people to yellow bludish problem with a good speech before

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but to go straight up for reconciliation despite partial OBT and UELA signed, huh

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Nice

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17 ED before signing WLA. 16 ED after. I don't think I can squeeze out 3 more ED?

179 ayes.

Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
1 PW - Wineyard.
2 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Lobbying.
Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Presidential Salary.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy Degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Trade.
Modernise the Air Force.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize HOS and BS.
-12 GB - Decrees - FTCC, Free Medicine.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
27 Malenyevist Points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
Veto Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
20 PO?
-9 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
17 ED.
-11 GB - WLA.
-9 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs + Smoking Tax Override.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
Veto Alcohol Tax.
Veto Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy + Veto Overrides.
20 ED?

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Eh, it's fine. I could also skip ED from healthcare, go for PO instead.

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Oh.

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I went to -12 GB due to the debt crisis

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I guess I miscalculated GB from veto override and tariffs?

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I'll have to try signing Smoking Tax instaed

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Or just go back to the plan of mainatined decree power, REI + VAT instead of free medicine, boom

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Like, fulfilling Albin's demand is an added challenge

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that I would love to fulfill

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since I am skeptical of a Ricter, Leke or Kibener with such powers.

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Although, on the other hand, the Assembly can override those decrees, and at least based on the available list of decrees... Honestly only private prisons and de-sollinisation are very questionable, the rest is whatever.

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Yeah I think I'm maintaining decree powers and doing FTCC + REI + VAT instead.

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I would prefer more capitalist points, not gonna lie, but I'll live

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I end the game at 16 ED. Kinda low, not gonna lie, but the big debt crisis is probably the culprit.

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10 Sollist
23 Democratic
30 Malenyevist
-16 Capitalist

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Since I have a lot of spare malenyevist points, I'm thinking of trying to get those 11 more Sollist points to be both Sollist archetype and malenyevist archetype

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free medicine is +2 mal and -1 cap
Rei would do the same
Vat on top of that is -1 cap

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27 malenyevist, huh.

Join YS instead of RY? Not sure how to roleplay this though, I mean, a former YS member calling Hegel a comrade?

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that's a net 2 mal points too

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but a net 2 sollist

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Tightened immi?

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Hm,

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I could get 1 more malenyevist from banning creationism

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I should probably do fully + majority nationalization

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Tbh I woudl love to expand Air Force to do a setup for solo war or valgsland only, the strat doesn't change, I just do dig in into Dome, but idk.

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Epsecially the parade

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the flavour text is just so much cooler with modernisation

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or like, the opposite of cool with expansion. "The soldiers don't even have matching rifles" kind of uncool.

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Good run overall tho.

Properly minmaxed economy, medium surplus + lowered debt.
Radical reformist constitution with articles 6&7.
BFF eliminated through article changes.
Prepared for war, set up for all strategies possible (just change Air Force expansion/modernisation).
EPA at 49%, then reverted to 10%.

The things I'm disappointed with:

Relaxed immigration.
Gendarmerie under Defense.
Wehzek BFF not destroyed.
No FC Anrica match, so no Soll in the war room.

buoyant sedge Mar 21, 2026, 10:12 PM

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I've not done a good market game in a long, long while.

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My usual problem is that I'm fundamentally opposed to privatizing large corporations before we tackle the Oligarchs.

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Maybe I modify this run that privatizes welfare into more anti-communist run

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but then it's not really sollist naymore, is it

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just a basic capitalist authotarian

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too many sollist points are lost on privatization

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Maybe

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I should go back to the old Sollist one

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and do a truly reprehensible one

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but like

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even if I'll accept forming SSP and focusign on opposition, which again, in my opinion is at best a waste of resources, I'd still need to divorce Monica. And cause the BFF Uprising by having low PO. And so on.

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I could uh... I mean is the uprising necessary? I'm crushign the BFF anyway, I'll just have to deny Leke's request.

fathom tinsel Mar 21, 2026, 11:33 PM

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buoyant sedge So <@1022167809050034307> , I'll require your assistance. Bula said to pass art...

U can pass with none

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GNA 6&7 works almost the same as normal, just with 179 cap for late and NFP boycott

fathom tinsel Mar 22, 2026, 12:07 AM

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I speculate the 179 cap comes from the game preventing the non-lead votes

buoyant sedge Mar 22, 2026, 1:38 PM

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fathom tinsel GNA 6&7 works almost the same as normal, just with 179 cap for late and NFP boyc...

I vaguely remember you saying something about USP Undecided being impossible to get and PFJP Undecided always voting aye?

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Lemme think...
1 from independents, like, they most vote aye, right?
5 from Gloria
4 from Clavin
I'm gonna assume I don't get USP Group A.
1 from USP Group B? Nah, let's ignore it.
5 from Ricter.
2 from PFJP Undecided.

Exactly 17. Hm.

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Gotta test that, but I feel like I did so and got 122 ayes before.

fathom tinsel Mar 22, 2026, 3:04 PM

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buoyant sedge I vaguely remember you saying something about USP Undecided being impossible to ...

I did not

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The fact you can get 179 means USP undecided did vote

buoyant sedge Mar 22, 2026, 3:17 PM

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Hm.

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well, I'll test that later, thanks

fathom tinsel Mar 22, 2026, 4:17 PM

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Either way, dictator 6&7 is not possible

buoyant sedge Mar 22, 2026, 6:01 PM

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Is it? Entire USP is 13 votes. 1 from independents I guess? Either lobbied or articles. 2 from PFJP core for including democratic clauses, 16 votes is enough with Gloria. And 1 from PFJP undecided from something from lobbying or oligarchs or some shit.

fathom tinsel Mar 22, 2026, 6:03 PM

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Yes

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Because the game is hardcoded to reset vote to 0 if u do that

buoyant sedge Mar 22, 2026, 6:04 PM

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0? So you get 71 ayes, no matter what?

fathom tinsel Mar 22, 2026, 6:04 PM

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110 ayes if u have both USP

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But the gamefile will show 0 vote

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Wait, theres 71?

buoyant sedge Mar 22, 2026, 7:30 PM

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I'm pretty sure the lowest possible text says like 70 ayes, or 71.

fathom tinsel Mar 22, 2026, 7:39 PM

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Should be 70

fathom tinsel Mar 23, 2026, 11:45 AM

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Yup its 70

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Anyhow

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Im lazy, what does stimulus/bailout do by itself again

buoyant sedge Mar 23, 2026, 2:34 PM

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Prevent -1 ED loss, and off the top of my head, not doing Antygony is -2 PO, bailoutd are -1 PO and stim are +PO and BO.

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I’ll check later

buoyant sedge Mar 23, 2026, 3:37 PM

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So:

Stim cheques:
-1 Unrest
+2 mal points
-2 cap points
+1 PO
+1 BO

Bailouts:
+2 cap points
-1 PO

Nothing:
-2 PO

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I unfortunately cannot find the +1 GB from rebute, hm.

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Yeah Shayrin's tool is not good for complex stuff.

unkempt yew Mar 23, 2026, 4:31 PM

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buoyant sedge So <@1022167809050034307> , I'll require your assistance. Bula said to pass art...

From my experience you need 3 of the 5 to pass a constitution with 166/167 votes in the past.

Gloria
Alvin
Opposition
Oligarch
-4 lobby

Not sure how much is changed with article 6&7. Sending this in case it helps.

buoyant sedge Mar 23, 2026, 10:51 PM

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You asked a good question nationalcapitalist, if you're reading that. One I began wondering about myself, let's see...

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That is the only mechanical effect I find for now

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lots of flavour text

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Seems like Albin might oppose you? Look

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So basically, you can't have 3% threshold or 15% threshold + removed impeachment + no term limits + default ministers, so president appoints

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an exam[ple of the flavour text I mentioned

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huh

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Oh, Edmonds stuff

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Youk now how it is

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PEOPLE WANTED TO MAKE ME KING?!

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Ricter complains too

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Not much else, basically, at first glance, it's +1 democratic points to change it, it's one of the lines Clavin cares about and it's one of the lines Edmonds cares about.

drifting vortex Mar 23, 2026, 11:09 PM

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buoyant sedge Not much else, basically, at first glance, it's +1 democratic points to change i...

Thanks for the summary, So it makes harder for Calvin to approve the draft (but nobody cares about his red lines because evryone bamboozled him into thinking he will be VP), harder for Ricter to approve (but that’s not something you’ll do as a reformist, in theory) and harder for Edmonds (but I read it correctly there is still a good answer)
So … way less essential to do than the game makes us think.

buoyant sedge Mar 24, 2026, 2:50 PM

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Yknow what I'm thinking

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Privatize Healthcare.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-13 GB - Decrees - REI, Relocate, FTCC.
-14 GB - Centralize Bergia.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-12 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-10 GB - Valgsland Trade.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
15 PO?
-13 GB - Military Industry.
20 ED.
-9 GB - Large Surplus.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
Die-hard Sollist.
23 ED?

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Good run, ye. But I feel like the minmax necessary to get 20 ED is kinda not worth it?

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like harder to roleplay

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I'm thinking of including stim cheques and do co-investment into Gasom + late L-1

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I can cut out military industry for no large surplus, but then I'm down 2 GB for no Gasom divestment. Fuck.

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What if...

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reject CSP Aid and sign Smoke tax.

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or

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since i'm rejecting CSP Aid...

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not ally with Valgsland?

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but that means i need to do Pincer

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which I hate

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nyeh

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no wait fuck, if no agricultural industry, I get less Gruni ED

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and no increased production

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unless I then expand Mil industry by myself...?

buoyant sedge Mar 24, 2026, 3:14 PM

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Ugh.

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I dunno

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the sollist with privatized welfare is nice, but I'm still torn whether to minmax ED and give readers wiggle room or do more roleplayish stuff.

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I'm thinking of working on the sollist-malenyevist, to update it without Koronti's deal, but to see all the PO I need to access the game's files, which I can't on mac

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not sure what else to do on the Reformist run, except it's kind of bland

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just a nothingburger really, practically speaking a minmaxed run similar to the first ones I ever did

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Maybe I just return to the base Sollist and embrace being evil af

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Divorce Monica, no welfare, BFF Uprising (or not idk)

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anti-communist as hell

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embargo everyone

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let's think

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
(No Armadine due to Arcasia embargo)
3 PW - Tusk Bribe.
1 PW - Serge Donate?
0 PW - Alphonso Foundation.
(No Gus' investments due to Arcasia embargo)
Franc sent to the military.
1 PW - Presidential Salary.
End the game with 1 PW?

Economy:
History degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
No WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Issue.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Tighten immigration.
Agnolia Alliance.
-7 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Air Force.
-9 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone?
-10 GB - CBRA.
-11 GB - Choose SSC.
-8 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-12 GB - Nationalize Both.
-10 GB - Decrees - CBI, FTCC, VAT.
-11 GB - Centralize Bergia?
Neo-Sollist Manifesto?
-9 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-8 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED?
8 PO.
-10 GB - Agricultural Industry.
19 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus
??

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What if, no Arcasia embargo, just Contana

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I want to just become Hawker 2.0, so no Arcasia embargo sucks

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I'm getting a ton of +mal and -cap points, I need just as much -mal and +cap to end up near Lileas level

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idk

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fuck that

buoyant sedge Mar 27, 2026, 10:16 AM

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I was thinking of early tightened immi, then I needed itfor Agnolia trade. But I forgot to write down early tightened.

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 9:26 AM

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@fathom tinsel Can you remind me what's necessary for "Save the world"? I did 2 PW to Alphonso foundation, 1 GB to Rayne scholarships and 2 PW to Women's league, and the achiv didnt pop.

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Nvm it popped like 3 events later.

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Bizarre

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I mistreated bluds as much as I could BUT I called off the operation to not destroy the BFF

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to have them raise up, get Revenge of Izzam achiv, and then the two assassination attempts achiv

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and the threat rose to alarming

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and stayed at alarming

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but Leke approached me to sign MRA

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idk

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It is a shame since this run was headed towards 5/7 achivs I have left, but I did just 2/7.

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Revenge of Izzam

Just another funeral

Catchphrase

638 ways to kill rayne

Impeached

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I can see a run combining revenge + another funeral + 638 ways to kill rayne, but I'd need to go to war. Idk how to get Catchphrase yet.

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 9:49 AM

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buoyant sedge <@1022167809050034307> Can you remind me what's necessary for "Save the world"? ...

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compact sonnetBOT Apr 6, 2026, 9:49 AM

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catsland. has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 9:49 AM

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Just use the Shayrin

compact sonnetBOT Apr 6, 2026, 9:50 AM

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catsland. has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 9:53 AM

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fathom tinsel Just use the Shayrin

I am at my family house, playing on mac, I do not have access to Shayrin here. So yeh.

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 9:53 AM

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buoyant sedge

Any comment on that btw?

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 9:53 AM

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I have the game code on the phone

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 9:53 AM

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I was sure alarming threat means a revolt is guaranteed

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 9:53 AM

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No, its not guaranteed

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 9:54 AM

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I did SSP, centralized, banned WPB, full obt etc etc, but I called off the operation

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So I was surprised

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 9:58 AM

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fathom tinsel No, its not guaranteed

Also one more request, "Catchphrase" achievement, say the "A morgna was core" 7 times, any suggestions? I found:

Circas' funeral

Dinner with Tusk

The speech at the end of turn 7

AN Speech

War speech

Election speech

But that's 6, so yknow.

I guess I could replace War speech with the Presidential Debate, and I can only guess I'll find one more during USP Primaries, but uh, maybe you know?

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 10:04 AM

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buoyant sedge Also one more request, "Catchphrase" achievement, say the "A morgna was core" 7 ...

FC Anrica football locker speech

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 10:05 AM

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Like, at the end of the speech in the locker? Sure, I'll try that, thanks

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 10:05 AM

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"value": ""Just know this... If you fail at this stage, you\u0027ll be proving me wrong. Nobody wants that. Are we clear, gentlemen? Are you ready to win?"",

                            "title": "Title",
                            "value": "Player: \"\"A Morgna wes core!\"\"",
                            
                            "title": "Title",
                            "value": "BaseGame.AMorgnaWesCore += 1",
                            "type": 0,
                            "typeString": ""

compact sonnetBOT Apr 6, 2026, 10:05 AM

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catsland. has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 10:09 AM

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The hell

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It's Rayne that has to say "A Morgna wes core" 7 times, doesn't this bit of dialogue claim one of the football players says so?

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 10:10 AM

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Player is always Anton Rayne or Toras guy

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 10:10 AM

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HUh

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Thanks again

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I'll try to combine 4 into one run then

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 10:13 AM

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buoyant sedge Revenge of Izzam Just another funeral Catchphrase 638 ways to kill rayne Imp...

Catchphrase is straightforward then. And if it doesn't work... idk, I'll try to do a normal non-war run and get impeached in the end?

Revenge of izzam is be racist (NFP bills, OBT etc) but don't do anything to crush the BFF.

Another funeral is Circas' funeral, Serge's funeral (the parade assassination) and Petr's funeral (kill with SSP), I'm not sure if in that order.

638 ways to kill Rayne will be the parade assassination (from mismanaged BFF crisis) and then BFF assassin during the reelection speech after the war is won.

The last one will be impeached, but eh.

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 10:17 AM

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buoyant sedge Catchphrase is straightforward then. And if it doesn't work... idk, I'll try to ...

Serge dies last

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Because he still need to deliver Pizza

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Ps: I hope u havent developed a habit of pinging me for stuffs idc about

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 10:20 AM

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fathom tinsel Ps: I hope u havent developed a habit of pinging me for stuffs idc about

It's more so I don't have the access for Shayrin's tool, so you're my second idea.

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I'm stuck at home, petting my dogs and watching some whatever anime in the background.

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Not many games work on mac, so I might as well start working on Suzerain's achivs

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if you do care, I'm thinking, or even working on making a steam guide for sordland achievements, but I wanted to get the remaining oens first (although the more I look into it the less I care, since I don't have a good idea how to test whether, say, "grand national assembly" for having our proposal reach 2/3 majority requires 166 votes or 167 votes)

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I was hoping you'd have the code at hand to check when does "A morgna wes core" show up to advice me.

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Any more questions?

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 10:54 AM

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I was waiting for something like "Blocked".

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 1:09 PM

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I'm losing my mind. I'm TRYING TO have the BFF Unrest happen, I sign CFB, RHB, UELA, do full OBT, yet Leke meets me to sign MRA.

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I edited 9th turn save to try to get it

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but nope

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i tanked BO from -17 to -30, PO from 7 to -5, even set "BFF_will_happen" or something to true, still doesn't work

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 1:12 PM

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buoyant sedge I'm losing my mind. I'm TRYING TO have the BFF Unrest happen, I sign CFB, RHB, U...

Signing NFP bills help prevent BFF uprising

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Just saying, nhom

fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 1:13 PM

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buoyant sedge i tanked BO from -17 to -30, PO from 7 to -5, even set "BFF_will_happen" or some...

And this only matters if its before the BFF check

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U prob tank PO/BO too late

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fathom tinsel Apr 6, 2026, 1:24 PM

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Funded Interior + Centralise is auto no BFF uprising for le example

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 1:46 PM

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Oh.

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fuck me, so I reload turn 8 then

buoyant sedge Apr 6, 2026, 1:48 PM

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fathom tinsel Signing NFP bills help prevent BFF uprising

How so?

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Turns out negotiatingand then telling the BFF to eat dirt didn't blow up the dam?? I still got unruly generals and all that, but I'll have to reload and try failing the police operation on purpose.

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wait, can I even fail the operation with interior funded and ssp formed? Won't I just be successful with both infiltrate quietly / search and destroy?

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 8:09 AM

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I should investigate this further, if Tusk actually does anything on Emergency.

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 8:34 AM

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Further testign needed

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 8:54 AM

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I'm thinking of such capitalist emergency run

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let's try to come up with economy

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 9:10 AM

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G. Holsord/Lorren stacking.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - Start L-1 Railway.
Choose Taurus.
4 GB - Business Bailouts.
3 GB - Tourism Act.
1 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
No GREEN (sorry).
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
No foreign aid.
Agnolia Alliance (or trade with island recognition, idk).
No Wehlen.
Modernise the Navy.
-11 GB - Conriat Industrial Zone (I can get all 5 ED, gotta use it, cmon).
-12 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Healthcare Privatization.
-12 GB - Choose Taurus.
-10 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3).
-7 GB - Privatize 3 ticks.
-6 GB - Bailout Rebute.
-6 GB - decrees - FTTC, Private Prisons, REI?
-7 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-5 GB - Lespia Alliance.
-7 GB - WLA.
-6 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
X PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-8 GB - Electronics Expansion (fully stacked btw).
X ED.
-6 GB - Medium Surplus (or Large, idk).
-7 GB - Valgish Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

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Cool.

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if I get Large it's even easier.

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And maybe I'd...

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instead of PP I do Relocate

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I am thinking of uuuh no bailouts, but GREEN + Something

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Sarna would also be cooler

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especially if I skip Bailouts for that

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7 GB - Start.
6 GB - Start L-1 Railway.
Choose Taurus.
No ERP.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
3 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
-14 GB - L-1 Construction Issues.
-9 GB Taxes - Increase Taxes.
-7 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-8 GB - Mechanize Gruni.
No foreign aid.
Agnolia Alliance (or trade with island recognition, idk).
No Wehlen.
Modernise the Navy.
-10 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Healthcare Privatization.
-11 GB - Choose Taurus.
-9 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3).
-6 GB - Privatize 3 ticks.
-6 GB - decrees - FTTC, Relocate, REI.
-7 GB - Bergia Centralization.
-5 GB - Lespia Alliance.
-7 GB - WLA.
-6 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
X PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-8 GB - Agricultural Industry Expansion.
X ED.
-6 GB - Medium Surplus (or Large, idk).
-7 GB - Valgish Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 9:16 AM

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buoyant sedge G. Holsord/Lorren stacking. 7 GB - Start. 6 GB - Start L-1 Railway. Choose Tauru...

Regional ED.

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 9:19 AM

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buoyant sedge 7 GB - Start. 6 GB - Start L-1 Railway. Choose Taurus. No ERP. 5 GB - Tourism Ac...

Annoying. I'm missing Gruni ED.

buoyant sedge Apr 9, 2026, 9:55 AM

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Gotta do Benfi Airport I guess

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and Electronics instead of Agri?

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Both those plans have top 55 people own 20% of economy, ugh.

buoyant sedge Apr 10, 2026, 3:22 PM

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Never tried it tbh, that's just code reading. But yeah, it seems like removed decress + either confidence vote for ministers OR assembly chooses ministers is necessary, just get rid of presidential free choice.

hard shore Apr 10, 2026, 3:26 PM

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buoyant sedge Never tried it tbh, that's just code reading. But yeah, it seems like removed de...

I always remove veto also in my parliamentary run

buoyant sedge Apr 10, 2026, 3:26 PM

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Like, at by default the president appoints whoever he wants as ministers, yknow?

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wait was it decrees or veto?

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Why did you delete your message anyway

hard shore Apr 10, 2026, 3:26 PM

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buoyant sedge Like, at by default the president appoints whoever he wants as ministers, yknow?

Oh ya

hard shore Apr 10, 2026, 3:27 PM

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buoyant sedge Why did you delete your message anyway

Accident delete

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Working while reading discord is not a good idea

digital wagon Apr 12, 2026, 3:31 AM

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Could you help me optimize my run to get large surplus

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7 gb - start
6 gb - l-1 with taurus
4 gb - bailouts
3 gb - tourism
1 gb - solo gasom
0 gb - green
epa at 49
-8 gb - ministry funding
-9 gb - wra
-11 gb - bergia ri
-12 gb - extra funding for l1
-9 gb - increase large biz taxes
-7 gb - privatize edu
-8 gb - crop research
-6 gb - arcasian aid
-6 gb - agnolia good trade, no wehlen trade
-8 gb - sarna
-9 gb - cbra (i could skip this for more budget as I wont have debt crisis issues but i like the rp
-7 gb - health privatization
-9 gb - taurus for second project
-5 gb - gasom 2/3
0 gb - privatize 6 ticks
-1 gb - decrees (ftcc, rei, roleplay)
-2 gb - bergia centralization
0 gb - lespia alliance
healthcare ed (med school)
arcasian military aid
-2 gb - ag focus
0 gb - medium surplus

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this is with economy degree and economy focus

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18 ed for the fiscal review. an identical run with lorren ri gives me large surplus (i think) but i want to invest in bergia for RP

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i just want to rp getting large surplus so i can minimize debt going into term 2. the reason for the bergia investment is so i can trade wheat with lespia and make the west rely on sordland for agriculture after it joins ato

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ive been trying to think of ways to get 2 more ed and I can invest in lorren if I have to but I dont really want to

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also i dont want to privatize less

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this run ends with 7 bergia ri which is overkill

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Brother

Screenshot_2026-04-11_at_11.46.32_PM.png

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Eh i'll just do lorren ri

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net difference of like 4 budget between bergia and lorren when they break even on ed and I can rp lorren helping with industrialization

buoyant sedge Apr 12, 2026, 6:53 AM

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digital wagon Could you help me optimize my run to get large surplus

I can only try, the true economic mastermind, Catspaw, is gone. Roughly, you count from 30 ED being the maximum pre-surplus, let's see your plan...

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30 starting ED.
You maintain military funding, right? Good, that's 0 ED then.
You didn't do Lorren RI, so L-1 Railway is just +1 ED, not +2 ED.
Did you do the unrest synergy? I'm gonna assume you didn't for -1 ED.
Large corporations only? -1 ED. But also a net -2 ED since you didn't lower taxes, we're at 25 ED.
I'm not sure if Wehlen trade gives any ED off the top of my head, I don't think so...? I mean, Valgsland doesn't give any, so I'd imagine so.
Also, you missed +1 GB from bailout rebute iirc somehow in your plan?
Privatizing 6 tick is -2 ED. We're at 23 ED.
You did well for decrees, but I'll count -1 since you didn't do relocation or lowered retirement age, we're at 22 ED.
You don't have enough Gruni ED for the spillover, so you're getting... just 1 ED if I read it right, so we're at 21 ED.
I'm gonna assume you veto the smoking tax? If you even get it I mean, since that postpones the ED hit until after the surplus check.
Btw, Economy focus hits after the surplus check. So do the tariffs.

Honestly I have no clue where you missed out on 3 ED. Catsland said many times that early regional recovery helps too, and you have an overkill of ED in Bergia that doesn't help with anything.

Benfi would help you greatly, since you'd get +2 Gruni ED already (Benfi itself and Lespia trade + Benfi + Gruni plan), which then gives you spillover for +1 ED. And maybe earlier region recovery for ED?
I know Bergia RI is tempting, but Lorren would help your ED and GB more and earlier. Plus, more Lorren ED (from Coal trade and RI itself) means earlier regional recovery, so probably helps too.
Yeah that's all I can think of.

buoyant sedge Apr 12, 2026, 7:08 AM

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digital wagon i just want to rp getting large surplus so i can minimize debt going into term 2...

I feel like you do that with Sarna + agricultural industry already. Remember that there's +1 ED if you expand agricultural industry and trade with lespia.

digital wagon Apr 12, 2026, 7:55 PM

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buoyant sedge - 30 starting ED. - You maintain military funding, right? Good, that's 0 ED then...

i missed the 1 gb from bailouts because i didnt invest in lorren

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i think ill just do lorren ri

buoyant sedge Apr 12, 2026, 9:29 PM

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digital wagon i missed the 1 gb from bailouts because i didnt invest in lorren

That was necessary? Huh. I was under the impression L-1 + Bailouts alone are enough for the rebute (while Lorren RI just gives ED), but I also very, very rarely do Bailouts or Stimulus cheques since I fund the military.

Anyway, as I said, I think you invest into Bergia enough, achieving full +5 ED Sarna Agricultural Zone synergy and 3 ED from the Agricultural industry (out of 4 ED possible), you need to give other regions some love. Especially Gruni, since you barely recover it and don't get the full benefit of signing GREEN.

Alternatively, if you insist on Bergia RI, why not... veto GREEN? As it stands, you're getting the lower blue-ish line for +1 ED and +1 Bergia ED and +1 Gruni ED, which GREEN isn't necessary for. With vetoed GREEN, you'd have 2 GB pre-Trade War check, which you coudl spend on... Uh... I mean you can just not spend, duh.

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Without GREEN, you should recover Gruni earlier, which should give you some ED.

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(I honestly did not test enough to tell you the exact numbers, you can always pester Catsland for more info)

digital wagon Apr 12, 2026, 10:08 PM

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this is why i went for green

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 6:05 AM

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digital wagon

Well, not quite. You see the chart I sent above (credit to Catsland/Catspaw mostly), that's how GREEN gives ED.

To get the total of 3 ED from agriculture, you need the top blue outcome for 2 ED and you can stack either of the brown-ish 1 ED on top of that. If you're not getting the top blue outcome, it's not nearly as worth it.

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📎 Suzerain_v3.1.513Final.xlsx

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 6:24 AM

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digital wagon 18 ed for the fiscal review. an identical run with lorren ri gives me large surp...

Lorren RI + Gruni inv is +1ED at conscription meeting, nhom

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 7:22 AM

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buoyant sedge - 30 starting ED. - You maintain military funding, right? Good, that's 0 ED then...

Wait, seriously? Any more such synergies you want to tell me about?

By the way, my estimation is off by 3 ED anyway. Can you tell me what ED sources I missed?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:27 AM

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Uhh

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Tourism + no unrest is +1ED

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 7:29 AM

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fathom tinsel Tourism + no unrest is +1ED

When does it hit? And it's separate from the unrest synergy, so getting it to 0 ASAP gives +2 ED then, not +1?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:31 AM

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digital wagon 7 gb - start 6 gb - l-1 with taurus 4 gb - bailouts 3 gb - tourism 1 gb - solo g...

This looks like promote market

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-1ED

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 7:32 AM

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fathom tinsel -1ED

When does the -1 ED hit from that?

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My estimation would be at 20 ED then.

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19 if the tourism + unrest thingy

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:32 AM

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Basically immidiate

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 7:32 AM

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mhm mhm

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:33 AM

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buoyant sedge When does it hit? And it's separate from the unrest synergy, so getting it to 0 ...

After BFF woman poison school thing

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 7:33 AM

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wait, so based on my 21 ED estimation. I missed Lorren RI + Gruni plan for +1, Tourism + No unrest for +1 and -1 from promoting market? Then I'm accurate?

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Lorren RI is even more op than I remember

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:35 AM

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I said Gruni plan?

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I meant investment

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:51 AM

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buoyant sedge When does it hit? And it's separate from the unrest synergy, so getting it to 0 ...

Its the Nia Lileas Graf thing

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Turn 04

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Please form SSP/ACP sth sth

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Gib me money not her event

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 7:54 AM

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buoyant sedge Wait, seriously? Any more such synergies you want to tell me about? By the way...

Anymore?

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Uhh, nhom nhom, be more le specific or me no clue

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:01 AM

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fathom tinsel I meant investment

So Gruni plan or GREEN, right?

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wait, that's it? That's the 30 ED Calculation then?

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I mean I doubt Lorren RI is that OP

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:06 AM

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fathom tinsel Uhh, nhom nhom, be more le specific or me no clue

Catspaw said the best way to estimate surplus is to start at 30 ED (when playing Normal) and count all the ED sources you miss out on. Can you write these sources down?

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This is as specific as it gets.

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Since I missed out Tourism, sure, I'll note that down mentally.

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but there's the lorren RI + Gruni investment you said

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 9:08 AM

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buoyant sedge Catspaw said the best way to estimate surplus is to start at 30 ED (when playing...

No

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:08 AM

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which makes me think Lorren RI can't be that good

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is there a similar synergy to Agnland or Bergia RI?

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:09 AM

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fathom tinsel No

You can't blame me for trying 😛

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 9:09 AM

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buoyant sedge is there a similar synergy to Agnland or Bergia RI?

If you pick Lespian salad, u get +1ED from Bergia RI

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:09 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/mustafa-kemal-atatürk-atatürk-türkiye-türk-gif-20733278

Tenor

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You cannot be serious.

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 9:10 AM

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You eating in the fanciest restaurant in Sordland, millions will see le salad and immetate at home

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:10 AM

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And Agnland RI?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 9:11 AM

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Lachaven Salmon

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:11 AM

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or is lorren RI that op?

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 9:49 AM

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Katze, am I reading this right? Could you double check if the only way to get the HSU nepotism leaked is to get Lucian to testify?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 9:55 AM

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Who else can

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catsland. has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

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catsland. has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 9:59 AM

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"value": "“I found out that the President abused his power to grant his son acceptance into Holsord State University.”",

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"value": "Lucian Galade: "“This is the list I mentioned as we..."",

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"value": "“This is the list I mentioned as well as the enrollment information from the university.”",

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:01 AM

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So it's Lucian exclusive. So with loyal Lucian, no scandal from HSU. Got it, lovely.

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I was kind of expecting Tusk to know it

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but well, maybe it's better that way

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:03 AM

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buoyant sedge I was kind of expecting Tusk to know it

He didnt study in HSU

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:05 AM

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I'm not entirely confident now, but wasn't Tusk one of the people that knows about our corrupt deal with Albin Clavin?

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I just expected him to have informants everywhere

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if he somehow learns about Clavin, why wouldnt he learn about Franc.

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:06 AM

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buoyant sedge I'm not entirely confident now, but wasn't Tusk one of the people that knows abo...

He lobbied the USP reformist

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And has the bank information from Edith

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:09 AM

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I have a roleplay question too. Do you know who pushes forward the Campaign Finance Bill?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:09 AM

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Albin

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:09 AM

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Like whose idea and initiative it was

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huh

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Do you have any more info regarding that?

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I'm thinking of vetoing it on an emergency run

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for a self-imposed challenge, how much suboptimal stuff can I do

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and I'm thinking of the roleplay for that

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:13 AM

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buoyant sedge Do you have any more info regarding that?

Literally turn 01 news

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:14 AM

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I found the article under I think Lachaven Times, but I was hoping for more. I guess I'll sign it for now, but I'm returning to work on the new Sollist run and thinking about what to do with it.

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How far away from orthodox Sollism am I willing to strive, yknow

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and like, if Soll implemented funding for parties that didnt get into the Assembly, overriding it with such unfair system seems anti-sollist.

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But anyway, I could not find any more info regarding that myself

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I was hoping there's something hidden, but oh well

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:17 AM

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fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:18 AM

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buoyant sedge and like, if Soll implemented funding for parties that didnt get into the Assemb...

Simplier is he didnt

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Alphonso did it

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:19 AM

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But another article says that the campaign bill first appeared during ALphonso times, but he vetoed it or something along those lines

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which makes no sense then, Soll had an unfair system, Alphonso changed it to a fair system, then a bill to revert to unfair system pops up?

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Kinda yknow

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:23 AM

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fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:25 AM

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buoyant sedge which makes no sense then, Soll had an unfair system, Alphonso changed it to a f...

It makes complete sense

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 10:25 AM

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Do we have any in-game confirmation or are we going off the vibes?

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I am a strong Soll apologist tbh,but you're a WPB, neither of us are a neutral observer

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 10:28 AM

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buoyant sedge Do we have any in-game confirmation or are we going off the vibes?

WPB was formed in 1948

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:04 PM

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@fathom tinsel I mean, it's related to your chart, so I hope you don't mind the ping. Do you know how much ED early regional recovery, the turn 5 thingy, gives?

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Like I'm either doing what I just showed and go for Gus' investments, or...

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Recover Agnland earlier, I'm wondering how much good it'll do to me.

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I'm willing to do H-3 Highway and roleplay it as "helping neglected regions, since I'm from neglected Bergia and can sympathize"

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:08 PM

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buoyant sedge <@1022167809050034307> I mean, it's related to your chart, so I hope you don't m...

The early green is mostly for the 2nd infa stuffs

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:09 PM

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And the 2nd infra stuffs hits really late into the run. Fuck me.

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Well, unfortunate, L-1 it is

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there's no fucking bneefit to early agnland then, huh

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Wait so, about the late game economic synergies post, how to interpret that for morna Port?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/suzerain/comments/1h0fxob/sordland_late_game_economic_synergies/

r/suzerain

Sordland - late game economic synergies

Here are the exact economy values each synergy gives. Megaproject synergies: Each of them gives +1 economy by default. The…

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:10 PM

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buoyant sedge Wait so, about the late game economic synergies post, how to interpret that for ...

Those are early green

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:10 PM

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At least from what I remember, you said this post is trustowrthy except you can get multiple industry synergies, not just once

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:11 PM

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fathom tinsel Those are early green

But you said in the chart that early green gruni is impossible?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:11 PM

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This patch, yes

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Since they changed relaxed

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:11 PM

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Ugh.

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One more chart related question

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:13 PM

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fathom tinsel Those are early green

The check at after Franc call

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:14 PM

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When does the spillover actually hit? I was planning on Sarna zone, but then Gruni spillover is lowered to 1, so I'm going with Morna for now. But I'm still curious when exactly it hits.

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fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:26 PM

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buoyant sedge But you said in the chart that early green gruni is impossible?

I mean, u prob can, i didnt bother to check much

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:27 PM

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buoyant sedge When does the spillover actually hit? I was planning on Sarna zone, but then Gru...

I havent edited it, thats just placeholder

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:32 PM

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fathom tinsel I havent edited it, thats just placeholder

You sure? It looked like a finished line of code. But if it's a placeholder, I guess I'll try Sarna for the time being and reload if it doesn't work the way I think it does.

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Also it doesn't feel like you can get early recovered Bergia? Bergia RI is not enough. Sarna, heat trade, REI and centralization are far past turn 5. And early tightened immi + full/no obt is a net minus of ED. I'm guessing another oversight caused by the changes to immigration ED?

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:44 PM

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buoyant sedge Also it doesn't feel like you can get early recovered Bergia? Bergia RI is not e...

Sarna+Relaxed+RI is def enough

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:45 PM

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But the 2nd megaproject is in turn 6???

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And this newest chart says turn 5

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:46 PM

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That entire thing is placeholder

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:46 PM

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ooooh

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I thought you meant just

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the spillover thingy

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Very well.

fathom tinsel Apr 13, 2026, 12:46 PM

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There should be two check, turn 06 Ciara sth

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And turn 08 after Lucian ask to search Livia

buoyant sedge Apr 13, 2026, 12:48 PM

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I see I see

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well I'll just go off my in-game experience and ignore that part fo now

buoyant sedge Apr 14, 2026, 11:30 AM

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fathom tinsel There should be two check, turn 06 Ciara sth

I have a request. Do you have that screenshot of a impeachment without any evidence and would you mind if I used it in a guide?

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so far my run is headed towards ~21 ED if I revoke the emergency, or ~17 ED if I keep it going. I was hoping to NOT kill hawker, revoke the emergency, then just say "this is a bug, here is evidence, we're not getting impeached anyway".

fathom tinsel Apr 14, 2026, 11:39 AM

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lunar pivot Apr 14, 2026, 11:44 AM

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that's so silly

buoyant sedge Apr 14, 2026, 11:46 AM

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I'm gonna assume I have the permission to use that screenshot? Lovely.

buoyant sedge Apr 16, 2026, 7:52 AM

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I'm still thinking about the Young Sord's Hawker kill.

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If it's corruption or not

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since iirc (can't fucking find it now) it's marked as SSP assassination if we tell Lucian

buoyant sedge Apr 16, 2026, 8:28 AM

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I just tried to prolong the Emergency. The ED difference was just 2?

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Like, I was at 19 ED when revoking, 17 ED when extending on the surplus check

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how did I think it was net 4 ED?

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What the hell

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I did full OBT, but then returned the whistleblower, didn't blame Rumburg and paid reparations (for fun). There was no plane accident. Is it possible to reconcile with Rumburg with full OBT nowadays?

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Nevermind.

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Let's see if I did any corruption...

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Nothing was leaked at least

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but secretstate_kill_orsohawker is true, which I assume is corruption

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even without telling Lucian

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That plus HSU Franc

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I'm still so damn annoyed

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Soll is totally fine with a die-hard Malenyevist and just praises me during the football game compared to this run. I do the damn same, except rely on the Sordish private sector than foreign aid packages and overreliance on the east.

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I'm thinking

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does Ys alliance even help me then

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not killing Hawker since corruption, even if it's not found. Security is pointless, I crush the BFF anyway and that's the only use I remember off the top of my head. Elections is probably corruption, and I win the war anyway, pointless.

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what was the downside to embargoing Rumburg again?

buoyant sedge Apr 17, 2026, 1:31 PM

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buoyant sedge what was the downside to embargoing Rumburg again?

Honestly not much at all.

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What does TradeAmount do?

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(all trade deals and a bunch of crisises have an impact on it)

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Huh.

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not much else tho

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Just as an example

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I guess there's literally no benefit to it

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feels like this decision should give PO or some shit, cmon

buoyant sedge Apr 17, 2026, 1:33 PM

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buoyant sedge

About that...

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??

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what Im looking for is who can leak that

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What?

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Dumb line.

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so dumb I'll make a feedback post I guess

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There it is. Lucian, if we tell him, or Karl (not that it makes much sense since we used the Young Sords, not SSP).

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let's see:
BaseGame.SecretState_LucianKnowsSSPKills

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I'm gonna guess if we don't tell him then he doesn't know, simple as that

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Yeah that's this discussion

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what baout 178...

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That's the scandal thingy, so yeah, I guess only Karl could technically leak it, but that's through an oversight I'm guessing, and only if we fire him

buoyant sedge Apr 17, 2026, 2:02 PM

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On another, completely unrelated note.

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I'm thinking about CSP Aid.

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Alphonso Foundation.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
Unrest Synergy.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Privatize Healthcare.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-13 GB - Decrees - REI, Relocate, FTCC.
-14 GB - Centralize Bergia.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-12 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
X PO?
-10 GB - UC Aid.
-12 GB - Military Industry Expansion.
20 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
Die-hard Sollist.
24 ED?

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For this.

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Lemme juts double check the positives of Contanan ships...

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but basically, +1 ED from Military industry, +3 GB, Arcasia hates me anyway from Valgsland alliance, trade volume, all I lose is self-sufficient economy

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"BaseGame.Decision_Turn05_SPAid_AcceptUnitedContana"

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Kind of feels weak tbh

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like self-sufficient ecoonmy was a godo roleplay goal

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and the plan as it is works well enough

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Hm?

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As I said

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Plus that of course

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Hmmm.

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I don't really need the +1 ED, I'm at 20+ easily. I don't need the +3 GB either, like, I'd get to lower debt and... And... avoid Valgsland alliance...? Since I don't need it for 2nd CSP Aid anymore...?

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Like I could genuinely do Agnolia Trade, Wehlen Alliance, Valgsland Trade and CSP Aid. No sanctions for net +4 GB and net 0 ED (Since with Valgsland allied, I modernise the Navy).

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Just for roleplay i'll do the suboptimal thing and avoid CSP Aid

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And yknow, like

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Iosef is fine with Valglsand and advocates quietly for the alliance with them, just out in the public has to be all like "Sordland stands alone raaagh". Everyone hates Contana.

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 9:17 AM

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I'm a disgrace to the good name of Tarquin Soll? give me 10 minutes...

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I somehow missed the morning call about impeachment tho?

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Alphonso Foundation.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
No ERP.
5 GB - Choose SSC.
4 GB - Tourism Act.
2 GB - Gasom Solo Investment.
Unrest Synergy.
1 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-11 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-12 GB - WRA.
-14 GB - Lorren RI.
-15 GB - L-1 Issue.
-10 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
-8 GB - Privatize Education.
TRADE WAR CHECK Happens.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-10 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-8 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-10 GB - Morna Port.
-11 GB - CBRA.
-9 GB - Privatize Healthcare.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (1/3 Shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-13 GB - Decrees - REI, Relocate, FTCC.
-14 GB - Centralize Bergia.
Neo-Sollist Manifesto.
-12 GB - Gasom Divestments.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
19 PO.
-10 GB - UC Aid.
-12 GB - Military Industry Expansion.
20 ED.
-8 GB - Large Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-6 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
Die-hard Sollist.
23 ED.

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Honestly I'm very satisfied with this plan.

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Initially I went for addressing protestors, but I agree with the argument that it's an ad for Red Youth recruitment, so with Unrest synergy. Thanks to which I have 20 ED exactly for a large surplus. I sort of wish I could keep the emergency going (-2 ED), but oh well.

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Privatized welfare sucks I guess? But I mean, I could maybe privatize 3 ticks of major companies, but I feel like not arresting Oligarchs after nationalization is a massive waste of an opportunity. Plus it ruins my entire international policy, since Hegel hates me then.

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Or neglect welfare and settle for medium surplus

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tbh maybe Sarna Zone, no military industry expansion, settle for medium surplus...?

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I could refuse Valgsland alliance, but then I'd want to expand the industry by myself anyway. So I'd just lose the -1 GB from sanctions and +1 GB from CSP Aid, and the Gruni ED from it. And I know I'm short on Gruni ED.

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Since the regional ED thingy is just a placeholder I can't even trust that yet, but for Gruni, I've got +1 from Tourism, -1 from GREEN, +1 from crop and +1 from Morna + Valgs coal trade + gruni plan. Wait, I don't need the +1 Gruni ED from CSP aid then...?

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The problem is when does Spillover hit

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The only difference is I end the game at 3 Gruni ED vs 2 Gruni ED. And without the reports about CSP's growing presence in Holsord... If I remember correctly, Gloria also says conservatives are against Valgsland alliance... But wait, then I lose some socialist voters from not allying Valgsland.

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I'll try no Valgsland alliance

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but anyway, to continue summarizing the run

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L-1 Railway for Gus' investments, exactly 20 ED for large surplus, improved infrastructure, increased production, all regions green, minmaxed GB for -6 GB at the end. No foreign aid too. Ton of welfare too, the only thing I missed are the Stimulus Cheques.
Increased popularity, guaranteed reelection. Arrested NFP leaders, so it's centrist-conservative-nationalist USP with a weirdly large amount of Bludish and Socialist voters versus liberals in PFJP and some socialists and Bluds in PF. Hawker and Graf are hostile, but Soll is supportive.
War won, duh. With modernised Navy too.
No corruption except HSU, but Lucian won't leak it since he's loyal.
Die hard Sollist according to Deivid, a Centrist near Lileas according to the Compass.

Honestly I'll just test no Valgsland alliance + no CSP Aid.

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What I like is that Wehlen only would make it so you can easily modify the run for solo war.

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But also, no Valgsland means I have to do Pincer, ugh.

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or wait maybe...?

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I could win dig down solo with expanded air. I would lose Dome without navy or Valgsland tho

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 10:19 AM

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Honestly I can't stomach another run where I change just a single damn decision. I'll start writing down the guide and just stop at turn 5 or so, whenever I choose which branch to modernise.

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I need to double check the socialist voters

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I'm going off the to pof my head, but I'm almost sure socialists actually care about Valgsland alliance.

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 10:44 AM

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Alphonso Foundation.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
0 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
0 PW - Franc sent to HSU.
1 PW - Post-Legality Meeting.
0 PW - Women's League.

I'm thinking about one thing. I send Franc to HSU, and only Lucian can leak that, so we're safe as it is. But it still annoys me. So I'm thinking, either send him to the military straight up. Or I'm thinking of doing Holsordian Rayne, and sending him to Arcasia, despite allying Wehlen and Valgsland. It'd be -1 PO and -1 BO, kind of meaningless, and in return I get more roleplay opportunities.

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You might think, why not Contana

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but I feel like the roleplay of an authoritarian sending his kids to study and live in western democracies sounds funny.

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 10:52 AM

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buoyant sedge I'm going off the to pof my head, but I'm almost sure socialists actually care a...

On the other hand, I'm getting 20% increase in popualrity. How many voters could I be getting from Valgsland alliance? Maybe I can do the suboptimal thing and avoid Valgsland alliance. Then again, I'm not sure if Wehlen only with maintained conscription is possible, I know what the flowchart says, but my in-game experience is different.

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Idk. Like Wehlen alone, with conscription kept and gendarmerie transferred, wasn't enough. Maybe Wehlen makes up for only one or another, and Agnolia with H-3 makes up for one or another?

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and yes, I'm sure I lost the first phase

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buuuuuuut then again +1 ED from Military industry (valgsland allied), +1 Gruni ED from CSP Aid, +2 ED from Agricultural industry (+1 by default and +1 from REI and Relocate)... Better military strategy...

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Like do I have a good roleplay for rejecting valgsland alliance?

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Other than a self-imposed challenge?

fathom tinsel Apr 18, 2026, 11:08 AM

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buoyant sedge Idk. Like Wehlen alone, with conscription kept and gendarmerie transferred, wasn...

Just not fund navy?

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 11:09 AM

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fathom tinsel Just not fund navy?

I didn't.

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I could find that run if need be I think.

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anyway, back to petting my dogs and thinking about the roleplay for valgsland alliance

fathom tinsel Apr 18, 2026, 11:09 AM

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Pretty clearly u can win with Wehlen only then

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Idk whats the problem

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 11:22 AM

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Nvm

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That run I didn't reconcile with Bluds so yeah

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i cant find it

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and my laptop is hot af

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I'll look for it later or test it again

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Or tell me, did you actually test that recently? I might be misremembering after all.

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 11:57 AM

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Yknow what I'm also thinking about

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 11:58 AM

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buoyant sedge Personal Wealth: 1 PW - Deyr. 0 PW - Armadine. 2 PW - Tusk Bribe. 0 PW - Alphons...

Start rich. Invest 1 PW into Armadine. Pay for Serge, pay for Alphonso Foundation. Buy FC Anrica with Armadine returns. Send Franc to HSU. Pay 1 PW to Women's league.

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Initially I invest into Serge

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but he literalyl doesn't give you the watch on emergency runs

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there's nothing we gain from it except cooler dialogue at times

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so I think i'll invest into a charity

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 12:32 PM

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I'm honestly starting to think middle class might be a better roleplay

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 12:34 PM

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buoyant sedge Personal Wealth: 1 PW - Deyr. 0 PW - Armadine. 2 PW - Tusk Bribe. 0 PW - Alphons...

Easier to justify education privatization, being sent to Lachaven Business School, choosing Morna Port over Sarna Agricultural Zone, L-1 over H-3, also 1 PW into Women's Rights and 2 PW into small scale reelection campaign...?

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idk

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Im too tired to think of something creative

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 1:45 PM

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I should check if there's any downside or upside to remaining neutral for a promise

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like I'm allying Wehlen and Valgsland

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I won't be leaning east for roleplay

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but would that give me any benefit? Or would it have any downsides?

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I'm guessing, based on other stuff, lean east/west means we either take the respective bloc's aid or ally their regional partner. Does doing either make me break the promise to remain neutral? I'm guessing not, but maybe there's some PO to be gained or lost. Or is there anything to gain if I lean east and ally Valgsland?

jolly flower Apr 18, 2026, 5:10 PM

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leaning west + taking ATO aid or leaning east + taking CSP aid gets you a green modifier for investments from Arcasia/United Contana

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 6:17 PM

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This is if leaning east...

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This is when neutral

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So basically as you said, basegame.situation_economy_financialinvestment_UC

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which does nothing, but let me check for sure...

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What the fuck is that dialogue?

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Or, why is it in Rizia

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also 2 broken conversations, let's check them manually

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i do not see either of those by checking conversations 205 and 206 for "basegame.situation_economy_financialinvestment_UC"

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Hm.

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I mean, the more I play this game, the less skeptical I'm of CSP and just call it realpolitik, it's literally 3 GB for almost no downside

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and the downside is annoyed NFP (but I arrest the NFP leaders) and...

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Okay let me approach it differently

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by accepting CSP Aid:

Sordland gets +3 GB and +1 ED from Military Industry. Also trade volume, but it seems to not matter much.
I can't negotiate with Lespia, but since I ally Wehlen, I won't anyway.
Contana and Valgsland drill their navy together, but I'm going to support the Heljiland invasion anyway.
I lose NFP votes in the Assembly, potentially, but it's Emergency.
I lose 1 nationalist vote for reelection.
I lose self-reliant economy, which seems to have no effects, but I'll look into it in a sec.

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What I meant

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also I just remembered I was supposed to check Socialist voters

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but first self reliance

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It does fucking nothing

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BaseGame.Turn09_EnT_ReliantOnForeignEconomy

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nothing except dialogue

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Same

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For self-reliance

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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but can I really justify CSP Aid as a Sollist

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I kinda sorta can, since even Lileas mentions how Contana will look at us more favourably thanks to planned economy focus

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eeeh

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what would I spend that moeny on anyway?

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 6:31 PM

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buoyant sedge Personal Wealth: 1 PW - Deyr. 0 PW - Armadine. 2 PW - Tusk Bribe. 0 PW - Alphons...

Without any changes other than CSP Aid, I end the game at -3 GB. Cool, I guess. What do I spend that money on...? I still get the debt crisis, I'm not replacing either of my decrees, sooo... nothing.

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I guess I could keep Gasom shares for some reason.

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veto smoking tax and something else? Eh. Green welfare situation is too cool

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back to socialist voters

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1 vote for WRA + Planned Economy + didn't ban Red Youth OR 14 or more Malenyevist points OR Valgsland alliance OR Socialist manifesto. So I don't even need Valgsland alliance in my run for votes.

2 votes for ComradeRayne archetype (20+ malenyevist points) OR 14 malenyevist points or more + 4 ED or more + didn't ban RY + didn't sign CFB. I wish I had the saves on my PC to see how much malenyevist points I have, maybe I could get those 2 with a little more malenyevist points.

compact sonnetBOT Apr 18, 2026, 6:35 PM

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rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 6:36 PM

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Jesus can you fucking get disabled

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What's your point?

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Okay I'll just call it "Socialist Votes" to return to this if I need this and I'll post screenshots

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basically if I could get to 15 malenyevist points a few more socialist voters await me. Veto CFB? I'm surprised socialist voters care about economy focus. Education reform I'm already doing. Fund RY which I won't do.

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I'll check what's the benefit of CFB again

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USP undecided votes, irrelevanrt this run
The funding for mayors, duh.
Weirdly enough some -1 elections ending vote?? But then +2??

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Honestly I'm better off vetoing CFB this run?

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Po is irrelevant, sad ot see the Sollist and -Democratic points go, but it's managable

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What else could I minmax better?

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 6:42 PM

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buoyant sedge - L-1 Railway for Gus' investments, exactly 20 ED for large surplus, improved in...

I'm still surprised Socialist voters don't carea bout privatized welfare. But anyway, I could maybe do socialits-centrist-conservative-nationalist USP tent party, and my only opposition would be the liberals united under PFJP and more radical leftists and Bluds under People's Front. Might make a good roleplay.

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What else, what else...

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I need both RHB and UELA for conservative voters weirdly enough

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and I doubt I can get any more Bluds

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maybe I can squeeze out some libs?

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"Liberal votes"

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idk which is which so I'm [posting everyhing

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buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 6:45 PM

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Seems like funding RY gives liberal votes

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AHAHAHAH

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So basically democratic stuff, like free media, and market economy. No way I get any, do I?

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I'm thinking of maybe, Agnolia + Wehlen + Valgsland hostile trade + ATO Aid

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but I hate hostile Valgsland trade

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What else can I minmax?

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Economy is as good as it gets.

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With even wiggle room, you can just, not do military industry expansion. And have 2 GB of wiggle room, or 6 ED of wiggle room if you just give up large surplus.

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And self-reliance, as pointless as it ended up being.

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no reduced debt, but tbh the most realistic change would be to like, let WLA sink I guess

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is there any benefit to WLA this run anyway? Let's see

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Other than the effects of WLA itself, as in, sollist/democratic/etc points, 2 GB and -1 ED, I lose out on 1 ocnservarive vote

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my writing is getting more sloppy, but I've donated blood and I'm not only turbo weak, I'm also permanently cold, excuse this

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There's also this

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Whatever vote I lose among conservatives, I somehow get back?

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I'm guessing there's a women's dedicated voter group, huh

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nvm

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I'm getting it anyway through MRA

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yeah there's no further benefit

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just a self-imposed challenge

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you want to be sexist, you can. You want to be authoritarian, form SSP instead. You want to... Okay you can't be too racist, the plan requires Wehlen's help, you gotta reconcile.

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What else...

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Fuck, without Wehlen, dig in would be lost, so you have to do pincer + not transfer Gendarmerie

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that's a bit of a big divergence

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or well, I don't want the comment section to be spammed with "I lost the war"

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tbh I should just expand air force instead of modernising, that way Wehlen's presence or not is irrelevant...?

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but I also prefer modernised flavour text

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But then again, expansion would be more in-line with Valken, a die-hard Sollist

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and with expanded air force, you could easily transform into a solo war run (just without soll in the war room unfortunately) with Wehlen trade and good Sacker dialogue, not calling Valgsland in

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Yeah honestly that might be a better roleplay

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allows the player to be racist if they prefer to

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but the default will still have WLA and MRA signed

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you can just opt not to

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 8:07 PM

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Honestly that sounds like a great run, like in principle, the more I leave to the player while giving them a solid skeleton to start off with, the better.

buoyant sedge Apr 18, 2026, 8:17 PM

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buoyant sedge Personal Wealth: 1 PW - Deyr. 0 PW - Armadine. 2 PW - Tusk Bribe. 0 PW - Alphons...

You can choose any background you want and do whatever you want with Franc.

H-3 would be objectively suboptimal, since Lorren RI is a big part of the run. But I suppose no L-1 could work just as well if you know what you're doing. I will note down how I do it mostly for Gus' investments and roleplay.

You could tighten immigration immediately in theory? I'd double check that on my mac when possible.

You could take CSP Aid. Or ATO Aid, although that's a big divergence.

You could do any megaproject you want, and while Morna is the most optimal for Gruni ED, Sarna works better for general ED, Conriat is a decent enough choice and Benfi... Well Benfi is the least good, but you do get Gruni ED.

You could work with Koronti and nationalize BS only.

You can replace Relocation with any decree other than VAT (tl;dr not worth it) and Lowered Retirement Age (since -2 GB is too steep of a price). To be fair, I'm still considering private prisons, to lower national debt, or maybe free prescription medicine unless it costs 2 GB now.

You can go for Valgsland trade only.

You can sink WLA.

You can ignore MRA.

You can keep the emergency going (although that one is complicated and requires finding 2 GB or 2 ED elsewhere).

You can fund Young Sords.

You can avoid the war, but that requires keeping the emergency going or else impeachment with no evidence.

There's so much you could do.

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:11 AM

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I'm still thinking about the roleplay for Rumburg.

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The focus of my emergency in the first place is the BFF, so it sounds natural to embargo Rumburg, since they fund them. Even if it gives me -1 Trade volume, I'm almost sure I still get increased trade at the points i usually do.

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So like

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do I just target rumburg immediately, embargo them, close the consulate, take the whistleblower etc to just damage them as much as I can

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or do I do something more in line with what Soll wants, and react diplomatically, reject the whistleblower etc and reject cooperation when asked to pay reparations

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since reparations came up literally few months before the sacker interview, she didn't care about it for this entire time. Plus, we're in a recession, 2 GB is a lot.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:14 AM

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what is your playthrough again?

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:15 AM

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New Sollist

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Like the old Sollist

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:15 AM

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which version of soll are you trying to emulate

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because pre izzam, soll was a lot more liberal

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:16 AM

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but more moderate, signed WLA, MRA, ACP formed etc, but then the player is allowed to make different decisions, like I said above. You don't want WLA, just don't sign it as decree. You don't want MRA, fine, but expand the air force to make up for no Wehlen. You want SSP, sure, ACP does almost nothing, whichever you form you just arrest the NFP leaders.

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:17 AM

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lunar pivot because pre izzam, soll was a lot more liberal

How does that relate to how to treat Rumburg? My dilemma is whether to be hostile immediately and say that war is inevitable (I won't declare the war during the plane incident, since I want Soll in the war room), or act diplomatically initially.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:17 AM

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buoyant sedge but more moderate, signed WLA, MRA, ACP formed etc, but then the player is allow...

wouldn't a sollist focus on arresting the oligarchs?

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:17 AM

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The dilemma also stems from -1 Sollist point and +1 Democratic point when accepting the whistleblower

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so if it's sollist to be nice to Rumburg, then...?

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:17 AM

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buoyant sedge How does that relate to how to treat Rumburg? My dilemma is whether to be hostil...

ohhh I see, well I do think a sollist would be hostile immediately

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:18 AM

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lunar pivot wouldn't a sollist focus on arresting the oligarchs?

They're arrested with detention without trial after fully nationalizing both

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Then I have ACP to use on either OG or Opposition

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:18 AM

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being concilatory to rumburg is more the pfjp/democrat position

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:18 AM

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buoyant sedge Then I have ACP to use on either OG or Opposition

then yeah the nfp makes the most sense

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they hate sollism

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:19 AM

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lunar pivot ohhh I see, well I do think a sollist would be hostile immediately

I certainly approve of accepting the whistleblower even though it reduces Sollist points, as in "anything to damage Rumburg", but then again Soll complains about pulling Sordland into a war.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:19 AM

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I thought soll only complains if you're unprepared

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:19 AM

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buoyant sedge The dilemma also stems from -1 Sollist point and +1 Democratic point when accept...

The political points for accepting the whistleblower make no sense.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:19 AM

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buoyant sedge The political points for accepting the whistleblower make no sense.

yeah i don't get it

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sollists would love to accept whistleblowers

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:20 AM

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lunar pivot I thought soll only complains if you're unprepared

No, he always warns us about Rumburg, how he rebuilt the republic with his sweat and blood and won't see it fall.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:20 AM

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in fact they would be mad if rayne sent hailstone back to rumburg

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:20 AM

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lunar pivot sollists would love to accept whistleblowers

Another reason I dislike rejecting him is that to be even more peaceful, I'd also have to omit that Livia was Rummish spy to get the reparations thingy.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:20 AM

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buoyant sedge No, he always warns us about Rumburg, how he rebuilt the republic with his sweat...

well tbh it makes sense

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rumburg is one of the most powerful nations

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:21 AM

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At which point we're not "trying to fix relations" but actively omitting what Rumburg does to its neighbours

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:21 AM

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buoyant sedge At which point we're not "trying to fix relations" but actively omitting what Ru...

well you could always just fire her without investigating

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or kill her with ssp

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:21 AM

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Like there's a difference between being equal partners and being afraid of speaking up about the wrongdoings of Rumburg

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:22 AM

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lunar pivot well you could always just fire her without investigating

I don't have a good roleplay for that. Investigating her costs nothing, why not check it out to be sure?

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Plus it's a difference between letting a spy go free and jailing her.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:22 AM

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buoyant sedge I don't have a good roleplay for that. Investigating her costs nothing, why not ...

I see your point

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:22 AM

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Ye ye red situation, yeah the scandal, but I get to arrest a spy and show that rumburg is meddling with its neighbours

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Plus the nuclear thingy

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like even if it's pointless now

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I dont get nuked anyway

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Rumburg will keep working on the nukes

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So even though the roleplay of "let's try to avoid the war and fix relations" and the argument of "political points" is growing weaker

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:24 AM

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at least the way I see the rumburg situation is that while showing the world how much rumburg is destabilizing sordland is nice, not showing the world sends the message to rumburg that sordland is open to conciliation rather than increasing the hostile rhetoric

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now that's not to say you should do that

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:26 AM

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For me, like me the bald guy behind the screen, you don't get to fund a terrorist group within my country, spy on the president, close the consulate, demand absurd reparations and then expect me to ignore all that. Other than the war 80 years ago, I don't think we've shown any hostility to Rumburg.

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Meanwhile Rumburg first bullied Agnolia these 40-ish? years ago, now tries to bully us.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:27 AM

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I agree it's unreasonable for rumburg to expect that of sordland

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that's why reconciliation is so rare in playthroughs

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:27 AM

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(annexation of Dome was in early 1920. So yeah, 30 something years ago)

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:27 AM

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my point is moreso that it actually happening isn't just rumburg bullying sordland into getting stuff

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it's rumburg changing its overall strategy once beatrice realizes that it's easier to work with sordland rather than destabilize sordland

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:28 AM

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Due to us showing a conscious effort to improve diplomatic relations. Hm.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:28 AM

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exactly

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that's why it comes across as unfair and unreasonable

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:29 AM

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Which is why I initially acted nice all the way until the reparations

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and hell

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once I evne paid reparations

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but she still declares the war due to not being kicked out of OMEC. Or maybe she's genuinely mad about OBT.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:29 AM

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oh yeah operation bear trap would do it

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assuming you got the wehlen alliance

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:30 AM

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I never tried to do partial OBT and then NOT kicking Rumburg out of OMEC

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I wonder if they declare then

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like you know

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:30 AM

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I've done rumburg reconciliation with partial bear trap earlier

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:30 AM

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if it's "okay I am too weak to declare war, but maybe Sordland is willing to trade" or "okay Anton isn't that bad, maybe we can cooprate"

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My point is, is OMEC expulsion necessary for reconciliation

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Actually

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:31 AM

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I'd have to check but it might be the opposite

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at least I didn't do any expulsions and got reconciliation

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:31 AM

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@fathom tinsel Mind helping out? Is OMEC expulsion necessary for reconciliation with Rumburg? I'm thinking if Beatrice is genuinely mad about OBT, which is why she attacks, or is she too weak to wage war and that's why she offers the trade.

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:32 AM

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lunar pivot at least I didn't do any expulsions and got reconciliation

I'd imagine you subconsiously just remember the good sacker dialogue to do that

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:32 AM

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that might be the case

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:33 AM

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Whatever the case might be, I'm thinking hostility makes more sense

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:33 AM

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buoyant sedge once I evne paid reparations

also I have no idea how much sordish ren translates to 1 budget in this game, but tbh 2 budget at the end of the game isn't that bad

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:33 AM

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or something inbetween, not just full reconciliation until reparations

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:33 AM

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lunar pivot also I have no idea how much sordish ren translates to 1 budget in this game, bu...

I end the game at -6 GB. I need -9 GB or better.

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So i can afford the -2 GB, but I'd also rather keep my debt as low as possible

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or spend that 2 GB to fund Young Sords or some shit

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:34 AM

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who are you allying as sordland?

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I forgot to ask earlier

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if I had to guess, I figure a sollist would ally wehlen and agnolia

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wehlen due to shared dislike of bluds, and agnolia due to historic relations

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:36 AM

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buoyant sedge or something inbetween, not just full reconciliation until reparations

I'm thinking:
Diplomatic answer for the consulate thingy, we need international community.
No embargo, no need to damage our exports and anger Rumburg even more.
Take the whistleblower to weaken them if they're really doing something sinister, like the nukes.
Blame them for the spy scandal to show the international community Rumburg's meddling.
Do not declare the war, we need to be seen as the victim or avoid the war entirely.

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:37 AM

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lunar pivot wehlen due to shared dislike of bluds, and agnolia due to historic relations

Actually, I opted for Wehlen + Valgsland. I really dislike Pincer strategy in principle, so for dig in without expanded army/air force, I need both Wehlen and Valgsland on the front.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:37 AM

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that does not feel like the sollist move tbh

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:37 AM

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The logic is, Agnolia is a weak country pulling me into a war against our cousins.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:37 AM

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I can't see sollists willingly turning to valgsland

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especially after orso hawker and lileas graf's reactions

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:38 AM

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I agree because Gloria would actually complain that the conservatives aren't fond of buddying up to Hegel, but I just call it realpolitik, the Valgs offer much more.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:38 AM

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can you not win the rumburg war with wehlen and agnolia?

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I thought it was possible

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:38 AM

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I would, sure.

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But:

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Without Agnolia allied, I'll take Dome for myself.
Even Lileas says how our focus on planned economy will be seen fondly by the east.
Valgsland is just a much stronger trade partner and ally. Not only they're like 6th biggest economy while Agnolia is like 23rd, they also have a much bigger navy and more professional army, no idea about the Air Force.
It's more GB in total. -1 from Agnolia trade, +2 from Valgsland trade, +1 from CSP Aid (and agricultural industry) -1 from sanctions. Compared to just 0 GB from Agnolia trade. Unless I then take ATO Aid I guess.

I'm also avoiding the comrade Hegel dialogue, it's just the neutral "I want to improve relations, we don't need an external enemy to make a deal with one of our oldest neighbours".

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I was hoping for Valken's Blitz initially

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but if I declare the war myself, Soll doesn't join the war room.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:43 AM

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buoyant sedge - Without Agnolia allied, I'll take Dome for myself. - Even Lileas says how our ...

okay but hear me out, it's more fitting for sollist neutrality if you ally agnolia instead of valgsland because then there isn't the csp bias

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also helping out your close neighbors get back dome and datefort is so much more based than making rumburg communist

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:44 AM

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Valgsland also just offers more general flexibility. So far, I modernise the Navy (best decision), keep conscription, transfer Gendarmerie. I can win with Dig in and defend, my favourite strat, since Wehlen and Valgsland joining the frontline is enough. And then Dome thanks to Valgsland.

But I can expand the air force, win dig in solo and win Dome/Thornbourgh with Valgsland.

I can modernise the Air Force and win all the strategies. Literally, all three for the first phase, both for the second phase.

And so on.

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:47 AM

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lunar pivot okay but hear me out, it's more fitting for sollist neutrality if you ally agnol...

If you're talking just Agnolia instead of Valgsland, that's a net -1 GB, -2 ED, -1 Lorren ED, -2 Gruni ED. If you want to do Agnolia + Wehlen + ATO Aid, it's +3 GB, -1 ED, -1 Lorren ED and -2 Gruni ED. If I'm counting it right at least.

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By all means, Agnolia is a fucking handicap.

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:49 AM

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lunar pivot also helping out your close neighbors get back dome and datefort is so much more...

That's assuming communist revolution in Rumburg succeeds

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assuming that somehow ATO doesn't fund the monarchists to fight against the commies

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:49 AM

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buoyant sedge By all means, Agnolia is a fucking handicap.

I agree, my point is that it fits the rp better

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:49 AM

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And Rumburg doesn't just become a playground for both power blocs to proxy war

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:50 AM

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of course you'd want to ally lespia or valgsland

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:50 AM

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lunar pivot I agree, my point is that it fits the rp better

It might, but at the end of the day, I fucking hate Agnolia

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:50 AM

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buoyant sedge assuming that somehow ATO doesn't fund the monarchists to fight against the comm...

I'm sure they'd try but valgsland has the upper hand here

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 9:51 AM

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Worthless army, with half of it stuck on Heljiland, making a hostile nation out of Valgsland that can blockade our open sea access just fine, much worse partner economically... I just don't see them being a worthwhile ally.

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The only way I could see it is if you just opt for Agnolia + Lespia, but at that point, there's basically nothing Agnolia provides, Lespia + Sordland can win... Almost all strategies by themselves. The only thing Agnolia does is make up for abolished conscription or, if you build the H-3 Highway (but why wouldn't you just build L-1 Railway), can make up for gendarmerie transfer during Pincer.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 9:54 AM

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if I had to pick between lespia and valgsland for sollist rp, I'd pick lespia

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the problem of course is that wehlen and lespia is annoying to work with

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 10:39 AM

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I cannot imagine a Sollist run that rejects OBT. A nationalist would always do full, a Sollist can do both, depending whether you prefer isolationism or anti-terrorism.

So when it comes to Lespia, we either don't make a deal or make a NEUTRAL deal by selling Sordish Petroleum, no alliance possible. Which can only happen with repealed EPA, which no Sollist would ever do. And frankly, 2 ED for selling SP (with history degree, if you take economy for +1 ED you're getting nothing), is just not worth it.

So due to roleplay constraints, I think either Wehlen + Agnolia (+ maybe ATO Aid) or Wehlen + Agnolia + Valgsland (no foreign aid) works. I was considerign Wehlen alliance, Agnolia and Valgsland trade, but I think Valgsland is too good of an ally to skip, they give much more flexibility.

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I was, of course, considering Wehlen + Agnolia + embargo everyone, but I feel like this sort of run is better saved for like true Hawker run.

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and not this relatively moderate version

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 10:46 AM

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buoyant sedge I cannot imagine a Sollist run that rejects OBT. A nationalist would always do f...

yeah rejecting obt makes no sense for a sollist

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tbh I just think being a sollist sucks for diplomacy on the world stage

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they have no good options

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 11:15 AM

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Agnolia and Wehlen is a "good" one roleplay-wise since it's basically maintaining Soll's isolationism (whether isolationism is a good policy or not is a separate topic). But mechanically it's extremely weak, no big ally for the war and ED from military industry, no increased trade volume, no megaproject synergy (I mean Benfi/Morna/Sarna), no foreign aid (the 2nd one doesn't impact self-sufficiency and we give nothing in return for the aid package, like we lease a port/base during the first one), no ED or GB from either, it's really a handicap, not a valid international policy.

My second option was Agnolia + Wehlen + Valgsland or Agnolia + Wehlen + ATO Aid, but my logic was, allowing a superpower to park their ships/planes on Sordish soil is unacceptable, so I went with Valgsland. I was, or maybe still am, considering Wehlen alliance, Agnolia and Valgsland trade, but I have no reason not to ally Valgsland. Iosef advocates for it, saying how Wehlen won't be enough, and there's no point in risking Sordish independence because we hold a grudge. And that results in Contana giving us the agricultural aid, which is just free money and agricultural industry for some ED. We position ourselves against Lespia I guess, but they hate us for nationalizing and working with Wehlen anyway.

lunar pivot Apr 19, 2026, 11:25 AM

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see I agree with you that wehlen and valgsland is better, I just also think it displays the flaws of sollism

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sollism wants to be non aligned but also can't actually be diplomatic enough to make it happen

fathom tinsel Apr 19, 2026, 1:53 PM

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buoyant sedge <@1022167809050034307> Mind helping out? Is OMEC expulsion necessary for reconci...

Mutually exclusive

buoyant sedge Apr 19, 2026, 2:05 PM

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fathom tinsel Mutually exclusive

Wait. You mean that if you want to reconcile, you can't kick them out of OMEC? I'm not sure which part of that message you're referring to.

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Weird. I mean, I did not reconcile in probably like 1,5 year, but i'm still surprised, I'd bet my hand omec expulsion was necessary. Guess I'd be one-handed.

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And even if I did want to check out reconciliation, gas trade fucking sucks, guaranteed yellow prices, like cmon

buoyant sedge Apr 20, 2026, 7:05 AM

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I checked out a bunch of voter blocs, but not centrists, fuck me

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and I need it to know if promising education/healthcare vs law/military would matter in my run.

buoyant sedge Apr 20, 2026, 10:11 AM

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I need to count my trade volume

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to see if rumburg embargo would even impact me

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like, I wouldn't do that, but if the player so chose, then why not

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I'll also double check if Koronti can leak the media deal. Sounds like he'd be able to, but the event Update on the situation of Oligarchs in Estord makes it sound like nobody believes him.

buoyant sedge Apr 21, 2026, 7:43 PM

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As stupid as it seems, it looks like Koronti can't leak his media deal??

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Lucian OR acp if we investigate the Oligarchs (but apparently ACP is bad at finding corruption, idk how to get them to leak) OR Walter

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Maybe I misunderstand that

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but it seems absurd they don't believe Koronti sobbing in prison how we struck a deal

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but believe whatever evidence Tusk has

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Seems like I would be getting an additional conservative vote if funding military

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as for "centrists":

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So in more readable terms...

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Focus campaigning and either give majors budget or do any campaign

Economy + PO + no unrest

Economy

Mixed economy??? Since full command/leissez faire/comrade/capitalist rayne has to be false.

Marcel OR Hos nationalzied or media censored or oligarchs ally. I do wonder what's the difference between "BaseGame.Situation_Law_MediaBias" and "BaseGame.Media_SordlandToday_Bias".

Same as above but also another OR with marcel funding reelection or funding a youth group

Staying in the USP

If we give credit for articles 6&7 to Ricter, but more if we take it ourselves

RY or YS funding

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The only I could realistically get in this run is... fund YS I guess.

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Doesn't seem very SOllist tho

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to fund YS

lunar pivot Apr 21, 2026, 7:51 PM

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yeah

buoyant sedge Apr 21, 2026, 7:51 PM

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same as I want to change my sollist-malenyevist to avoid funding RY

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and roleplay taking over

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as the new OG leader

buoyant sedge Apr 23, 2026, 6:10 AM

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I mean on the other hand

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When we fund the Youth group

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we basically double their membership in return for their loyalty

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Like all the new members are probably our loyalists

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and I assume some old ones can switch who they prefer

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especially that again, with this run, I'm getting most of the nationalist voters and kick NFP out of the GNA, since I arrest Kibener and Holstron.

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And with the Sollist-Malenyevist I get most of the socialists, but WPB-CPS coalition forms and joins the GNA.

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So. Maybe the logic would be, since i have nothing else to spend on (although I'd end the game at -8 GB), why not strengthen the Raynists.

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I'll have to check who can leak that corruption

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the youth group funding

buoyant sedge Apr 23, 2026, 7:12 AM

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Like I settled for ending the game at -6 GB since I face the debt crisis at -9 GB, then sign Children for Future Act, alcohol tax and luxury tax. And I get tax efficient economy. If I faced the debt crisis at -10 GB, I'd get hit by -3 GB, and then to recover, I'd have to veto Children for Future Act, then sign both taxes and get tax efficient economy. Which someone that forms SSP instead wouldn't get. So yeah, this is as minmaxed as it gets while still allowing variations.

But then, after the debt crisi check, the objective moves from "avoid -10" to... do whatever you want, you're maintaining debt at 428 billion SR whether you end the game at -9 GB (no ACP + youth group funded), -8 GB (ACP + youth group funded), -7 GB (no ACP + no youth group funding) or -6 GB (ACP + no youth group funding). I still want to keep the debt low, but mechanically, youth group funding gives much more.

compact sonnetBOT Apr 23, 2026, 7:12 AM

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rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

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rolewicz has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

buoyant sedge Apr 23, 2026, 7:59 AM

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I'm still thinking about Wehlen only vs Wehlen and Valgsland

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+1 ED from military industry, +2 ED from Agricultural industry. No ED hit from Lespian sanctions since I'd modernise the Navy. A net 0 of GB, since it's +1 from aid and -1 from sanctions. And I like the roleplay that we need allies, why risk Sordland's independence.

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But I think even if conservatives aren't fond of Valgsland, Soll himself is. He has their books and all.

buoyant sedge Apr 23, 2026, 2:36 PM

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Okay first of all

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Paying a youth group ~26 billion SR out of the government budget for, among other things, voter intimidation for our sake, is only +1 scandal severity?

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Second of all, only Lucian knows it? How ther fuck does it go unnoticed except for Lucian?

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also just so we're clear, he does do both for RY and YS

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idk why its two lines of code

buoyant sedge Apr 23, 2026, 2:40 PM

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buoyant sedge Paying a youth group ~26 billion SR out of the government budget for, among othe...

Just for context, from what I see Underhall thingy is +2 severity, media deal is +2, tipping off marcel about the invesitgation is +2, tax cuts for large corporation is +2, SSP is +3 (justifiably tho, although it seems to stack the more people we kill. Imo, even a single one should be guaranteed impeachment)

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I just don't get how such massive waste of public funds for our private gain and an attack on democracy is +1

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but also, that means I can fund RY/YS without much worry

earnest pollen May 8, 2026, 6:46 PM

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Anyone know how to actually use Shayrin"s DB? I ran it through VSCode Live Server with both Suzerain and Entity Asset in the data folder,webpages were loaded but they are empty. I also checked the browser console, and no error was shown.

buoyant sedge May 28, 2026, 9:08 AM

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At times I'm surprised how seemingly popular this run is:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433540400

Or well, I just didn't expect people to like a Sollist-Malenyevist roleplay. But I think I'll have to optimize that run a little, and I'm thinking:

Ditch Koronti media deal, since it's a corruption Tusk can leak.
Optimize ED enough so I can afford to keep the emergency going. I can easily get +1 ED from Lachaven school, I should be able to afford the unrest synergy in terms of Malenyevist points, and I should be able to pick +1 ED option from healthcare surplus.
Avoid NFP alliance and Hawker's death, instead investigate the opposition.
Modernise the Air Force and do Valken's Blitzkrieg. I miss out on Merkopan Championship Cup, but I think an offensive war with the least used strategy is a valid roleplay.
What else?

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Oh yeah, economically, Morna Port makes more sense.

buoyant sedge May 29, 2026, 7:58 PM

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I'll just do a basic run and see what I end up with, hopefully 20 ED

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From this:

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
2 PW - Post-Legality Check.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
History degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
4 GB - Choose SSC.
3 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
2 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-10 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-11 GB - WRA.
-13 GB - Lorren RI.
Late L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Sarna Agricultural Zone.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
24 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare PO.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
14 ED.
-8 GB - Medium Surplus.
-9 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-10 GB - CFFA.
-9 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-7 GB - Luxury Tax.
-9 GB - Fund RY.
-8 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
-6 GB - Print Money.
21 ED.

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I'll try this:

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
2 PW - Post-Legality Check.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Women's League.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
Choose Taurus.
4 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
3 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-10 GB - WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
23 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
20 ED.
-6 GB - Large Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
26 ED.

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14 ED. +1 from Economy. +1 from unrest synergy which I ignored for Malenyevist points. +3 from L-1 Railway, right? And Morna should give me regional ED to push me over the 20 ED mark...?

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Like in my old runs it used to give me a net +1 ED iirc

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that means I can't revoke the emergency

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but less debt is fun, and I can experience Merkopan Championship Cup

jolly flower May 29, 2026, 8:15 PM

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buoyant sedge 14 ED. +1 from Economy. +1 from unrest synergy which I ignored for Malenyevist p...

Doesn’t L-1 just give +2 ED with Lorren regional investment and prevent -1 ED

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Which I guess is net +3 ED

buoyant sedge May 29, 2026, 8:17 PM

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In my previous run, I had it done late, which means -1 ED. In this run, due to using Taurus, I should get +2 ED. So a net +3.

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I'm just still not sure what to do with this run

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I can aim for a medium surplus and have a lot of wiggle room, go back to late L-1 with SSC, keep the emergency going and do Valken's Blitzkrieg etc

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or try to minmax it for large surplus, which would be a big achievement

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Yeah

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I still don't quite get where the +1 ED from Morna instead of Sarna comes from

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but that's what my ingame experience suggested

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To be fair

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I could also do late l-1 and solo invest into Gasom instead?

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but late L-1 with Taurus

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idk

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feels like a big PO hit and lrage surplus is a big roleplay goal

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I just wish funding the military wasn't as damaging

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or maintained military could win (but preferably the first)

buoyant sedge May 29, 2026, 9:02 PM

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buoyant sedge 14 ED. +1 from Economy. +1 from unrest synergy which I ignored for Malenyevist p...

I forgot to include Healthcare surplus ED instead of PO. I should be at 21 ED...?

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Hell yeah. The previous version had just maintained popularity, idk what did I do to earn this.

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Hell yeah. I am exactly at 20 ED tho.

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What can I do with that surplus...?

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If I veto CBRA, I could avoid the debt crisis, maybe?

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How else to minmax this new version?

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Tbh I could just ignore having Soll in the war room + hearing him praise us during the football match and do Valken's blitz

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but idk, for a sollist run to not meet with Soll on either of those occasions, meh

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all we'd do is meet at the washroom meeting, when he's always mad

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and I like dig in into dome just as much

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well maybe not as much

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but enough to not care about march on tzarsbourgh

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My problem would be solved by having the Merkopan Championship Cup happen when declaring the war anyway

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how's my suggestion going...

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12 likes. Fucking nothing in comparison how big this server is, but then again I have hope.

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Compass alignment kinda sucks

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Personal Wealth:
1 PW - Deyr.
0 PW - Armadine.
2 PW - Tusk Bribe.
0 PW - Serge Donate.
2 PW - Armadine Returns.
2 PW - FC Anrica.
1 PW - Post-Garaci Meeting.
2 PW - Post-Legality Check.
Franc sent to HSU.
0 PW - Small scale ad campaign.

Economy:
Economy degree.
7 GB - Start.
No ERP.
6 GB - L-1 Railway.
5 GB - Tourism Act.
Choose Taurus.
4 GB - Gasom Co-Investment.
3 GB - GREEN.
EPA at 49%.
-9 GB - Budget Meeting - Fund All.
-10 GB - WRA.
-12 GB - Lorren RI.
-13 GB - L-1 Railway.
-8 GB Taxes - Increase All Taxes.
TRADE WAR CHECK Passed.
-9 GB - New Crop Research.
-7 GB - ATO Aid.
Keep Relaxed Immigration.
-8 GB - Agnolia Trade.
-6 GB - Wehlen Alliance.
Modernise the Navy.
-8 GB - Morna Port.
-9 GB - CBRA.
-10 GB - Choose SSC.
-7 GB - Gasom Shares (2/3 shares).
-11 GB - Nationalize Both.
-12 GB - Decrees - REI, Bank, FTCC.
Socialist Manifesto.
-13 GB - Bergia Centralization.
23 Malenyevist points.
-12 GB - Valgsland Island.
-10 GB - Valgsland Alliance.
-12 GB - WLA.
-11 GB - Less Smoke Bill.
Healthcare ED.
10 PO.
Arcasian MIC.
-10 GB - Contanan Agricultural Aid.
20 ED.
-6 GB - Large Surplus.
-7 GB - Lespian Tariffs.
DEBT CRISIS CHECK Happens.
-8 GB - CFFA.
-7 GB - Alcohol Tax.
-5 GB - Luxury Tax.
-4 GB - Tax Efficient Economy.
26 ED

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I'll struggle with a good roleplay for Taurus

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but I can always quote what Symon says, how SSC won't finish the project with the budget we give them, and Taurus will

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oh that reminds me

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["BaseGame.EconomyDirection_Scale"]=-11

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I'm exactly on the threshold for a consistent planned economy

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let's do the math...

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-2 for promoting planned
+1 from L-1 with Taurus
0 from Gasom co-investment
+1 from EPA at 49%
-2 from edu kept
+1 from SME taxes raised
-2 from healthcare kept
-1 from SSC Morna Port
-4 from full nationalization
-1 from CBI
-3 from malenyevist and capitalist points

-12. I'm off by 1. Wtf

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Oh yeah I know, no Economic Relief Plan is +1 to consistent market

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Pretty good

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wait wtf

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but then again i forgot large corpo tax is -1

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so I'm back to -12

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I'm guessing I start at 0?

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It just doesn't add up, wtf

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I'm also thinking of ditching the first megaproject in general, it'd save me 3 GB in total (1 on the 2nd megaproject, and 2 for L-1 with Taurus), but what would I spend it on to make +3 ED?

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Solo gasom investment fucks over my consistency. Stimulus cheques are just +1 ED, since i'm already getting +1 from the Unrest synergy in other ways. Nope, nothing

buoyant sedge May 31, 2026, 11:01 AM

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I'm still thinking whether to ditch the large surplus and roleplay, to say, use SSC on L-1 and have it done late (-3 ED) and keep the emergency (-2 ED) or to keep the current plan, revoke the emergency and end up with a large surplus. One of the big arguments I had about impeachment is gone, Petr doesn't call me to warn me about it (but it'd still happen if not for the war), so other than maybe March on Tzarsbourgh, which would still skip Merkopan Championship Cup and I hate doing that, I don't have an argument to keep the emergency. I think I'm keeping the current plan

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 10:53 AM

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Apologize for my interruption but I have a question and you people here seem very knowledgeable in this subject! Do anyone here know the specific location of the file which lists what the business bailout affects for example. I'm pretty certain it lowers PO and GB and I used to be able to find out this information in the Suzerain.json, (I have not been messing about in the game files for about a year, so my info is outdated to say the least) however this information seems to have been moved somewhere else and I have had no success in locating it. So if anyone knows where the actual file which lists what decisions, vetoes etc affects does, or if it has been split up. Please do tell me. Thanks.

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I do recognize this might be part of what this thread is meant to solve, though I unfortunately do not have time to read it all. So please excuse me on that point if I am right.

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 12:06 PM

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It's fine, but I don't think I can help you. Let me just show you what I was using and I'm using nowadays...

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Entity Text Asset.txt. I do not remember where I got that file from. And here's the example of business bailouts you mentioned.

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I can't screenshot it, so I'll just tank the bots warning:

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"Condition": "",
"Text": "Bailout businesses under financial strain",
"Instruction": "BaseGame.Decision_Turn02_EconomicRelief_BailedBusinesses = true;\nBaseGame.Policy_Economy_ReliefAct = true;\nBaseGameSupport.Journal_Turn02_Relief_BusinessBailed = true;\nBaseGameSupport.News_Turn02_E_BusinessWell = true;\nBaseGameSupport.News_Turn02_R_PeopleForgotten = true;\nBaseGame.Situation_Economy_BusinessBailout = true;\nBaseGame.GovernmentBudget -= 2;\nBaseGame.Capitalist += 2;\nBaseGame.Malenyevist -= 2;\nBaseGame.Public_Opinion -= 1;"

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buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 12:09 PM

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Nowadays I use Shayrin's tool, but I cannot help you troubleshoot it, I'm just a user that had to restort to the author's help to get it to work. Iirc I use the same entity text asset.txt to read it all.

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 12:09 PM

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vocal onyx Apologize for my interruption but I have a question and you people here seem ver...

Does that help you anyhow?

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Oh you reminded me

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 12:10 PM

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earnest pollen Anyone know how to actually use Shayrin"s DB? I ran it through VSCode Live Serve...

Read that one as well. Not sure how he failed to make it readable, but he mentions the suzerain.json both you and I mentioned and the entity assets I mentioned, maybe it'll help you somehow...?

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 12:40 PM

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I didn't know there was an established database😅 do you know if it's any good? And if so, where can I head to find it? and and yeah that entity text asset.txt seems like what im looking for. Ill just brute force finding it if I have time!

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:00 PM

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I'd say it's useful. But keep in mind, it's only good for simple stuff, I cannot see anything remotely complex. As an example, the spillover/Valgen synergy, I've checked all the mentions of the GREEN act and nope, I just can't see that +2 ED, and yet I experience it almost every run I play. But for simpler stuff, like say...

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:01 PM

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buoyant sedge also just so we're clear, he does do both for RY and YS

Most recent example, I was looking into "who can leak that we funded youth groups with public money", and here it is, seems like only Galade can do so.

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:01 PM

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vocal onyx I didn't know there was an established database😅 do you know if it's any good?...

You should find it on github, I don't have a link on hand.

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:03 PM

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Yeah Ill check, and btw i found where that entity text asset is located. Its inside defaultlocalgroup_assets_assets_database_entitytextassets.asset_7658ed792f0c4924d06b11829a6c36d1.bundle located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Suzerain\Suzerain_Data\StreamingAssets\aa\StandaloneWindows64

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Along with other seemingly interesting information

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:11 PM

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buoyant sedge I'd say it's useful. But keep in mind, it's only good for simple stuff, I cannot...

wait describe what you mean there, im not sure i followed

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:35 PM

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buoyant sedge

Simple stuff is readable

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complex stuff is not

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The database is good for "if <X> then <Y>" and not economic synergies with dozen of factors

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Simple example

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I cannot for the life of me

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find the line of code that goes something like:
EPA at 49% + Wehlen trade + Lorren RI + GREEN signed = +1 GB from selling shares

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but I know for a fact it happens

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:37 PM

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buoyant sedge find the line of code that goes something like: EPA at 49% + Wehlen trade + Lorr...

oh yeaah youre right i get what you mean, is that a decision, to sell the shares i mean?

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:38 PM

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Yeah, you get medium returns if you sell with the setup I said

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medium returns are +3 GB

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but like, I cannot find where in the code is that bit exactly

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There's stuff like "if you do X then one Old Guard justice will vote yes for the constitution"

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But articles 6&7 are so complex I cannot find specific information

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with the database

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:39 PM

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do you know what the green act is called in the files?

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i cant remember

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:40 PM

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Depends. I hate how inconsistent this game is at naming at times, sometimes it's SignedGREEN, sometimes it's GREEN_Signed, it might even be "GruniRegeneration" called somewhere, I don't remember for now.

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:42 PM

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buoyant sedge medium returns are +3 GB

medium returns seem to be 2 gb, i see in the files high is 3 and i got the requirements for that

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Condition": "BaseGame.Decision_Turn06_GasomStake_Keep == true && (BaseGame.Policy_Economy_EnergyProtectionAct_Removed == true && BaseGame.Turn03_EnT_Gasom_LargeSordlandInvestmentAlone == true && BaseGame.Gasom_Bankrupt == false)",
"Text": "High Returns [+3 Government Budget]",
"Instruction": "BaseGame.Decision_Turn08_GasomProfit_ReceivedHighReturn = true;\nBaseGameSupport.Journal_Turn08_GasomFinancialReport_HighProfit = true;\nBaseGameSupport.Report_Turn08_Lachaven_GasomHighProfitShares = true;\nBaseGameSupport.News_Turn08_LT_Gasom_ProfitReturnsHigh = true;\nBaseGame.GovernmentBudget += 3"
},

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buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:46 PM

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buoyant sedge find the line of code that goes something like: EPA at 49% + Wehlen trade + Lorr...

With all due respect, did you read what I said here? I was looking through mentions of the GREEN act, but feel free to look further for this exact line of code.

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:47 PM

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buoyant sedge With all due respect, did you read what I said here? I was looking through menti...

I think im just confused as to what you mean🫶

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but yeah, more complex triggers is harder to find

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:47 PM

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You're aware of the regional synergy chart, yes?

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x87ylv31HQg8Th6g3xOLbXOmQSVH3-UQ/edit?gid=1254408204#gid=1254408204

Google Docs

Suzerain_v3.1.0(Final)

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vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:48 PM

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Damn, i havent looked at these charts since like 2.0 or something😅

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:48 PM

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To be fair Orange-kun knew about this logn before it appeared in the chart

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so credit goes to him

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but my point is

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EPA at 49% + Lorren RI + Wehlen

Then, either sell 1/3 if you solo invested or 2/3 if you coinvested

Would usually give you +2 GB/low returns. But if you signed GREEN on top of that, you get +3 GB/medium returns.

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I cannot find it anywhere in the code

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but I know for a fact, because that's what happens ingame, that I get +3, and the only difference between the two test runs was that I signed or vetoed green

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Generally

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I trust my in-game experience more than the database

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but I also have like 700 hours of in-game experience and I digged in the code a lot, also a lot of my knowledge is thanks to Catspaw and Catsland, Jaher, Orange-kun, Bulabek etc etc

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I'm not mad btw, just, I've seen and experienced a lot and I don't claim to be on the level of Catsland or Catspaw, and the amount of people I've met that thought they knew jack shit is just astonishing

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I rarely interact on this server as of late due to how tiring the community is

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Zinx really boiled my blood at one point

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Well anyway

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 1:57 PM

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buoyant sedge I'm not mad btw, just, I've seen and experienced a lot and I don't claim to be o...

No its fine, i didnt take any offense. Better to be clear, rather than extra nice so to say. I just used what you mentioned regarding gasom to try and get myself oriented in this damn spaghetti code of a game again. And it so happened to not be what you were talking about😅 Either way, if i find that specific trigger ill notify you. But you've actually been a great help( and yeah the community is abit tiring so i get that part). So thanks!!!

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 1:58 PM

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Oh this is spaghetti

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I'm no coder, don't get me wrong

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But in many ways the fact its an indie game is obvious

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The part I actually know something about is the military, since I'm a reservist, and the numbers they give are just absurd

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but at one point in some Q&A they admitted they had no clue what they're doing and insert numbers that sound cool

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Anyway

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Well I'll help if I can, but as you can see, this channel is mostly for my own use, diving into the code to update the few steam guides I have

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Like, even the most recent example, it turned out to minmax the amount of voters, I should veto Campaign Finance Bill, since it gives me some undecided voters.

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Which sounds contradictory, since CFB would rig the electoral system, but what do I know

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 2:03 PM

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Yeah well thats why one checks the damn code. Something seems right and is the opposite of what you think. I despise this game on that point. Especially in rizia campaign with its incredibly misleading tooltips for decrees

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 2:06 PM

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With time I'm leaning more and more into Catspaw's argument that Sordland thrives on obscurity. If I could just play a run in my mind by seeing all the possible choices and its effects in a table, I wouldn't play the game at all. To be fair, I would have dropped Sordland at like 250 hours normally, but I began writing steam guides and I wanted them to be as accurate as possible instead of relaying on vibes and shit, so that's how I got to 680 hours at this point and why this channel even exists.

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Like out of random stuff that surprised me

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Im trying to find it in the channel

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but you'll just have to believe me

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did you know that Tusk knows about our media deal with Koronti? And can leak it in revenge? I didn't, I thought it's not corruption unless we fulfill our part of the deal and give Koronti privatization shares (which would be corruption by itself) or nationalize Bergia Steel only.

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 2:08 PM

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buoyant sedge With time I'm leaning more and more into Catspaw's argument that Sordland thrive...

Im quite the opposite, my personality refuses to let me play without knowing the exact consequences, that might be wrong for a game such as this i have realized, but i digress.

buoyant sedge Jun 1, 2026, 2:08 PM

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I enjoy exploring the unknown. It's just that, actually playing the game gets me only so far, that's why I got into code digging

vocal onyx Jun 1, 2026, 2:08 PM

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buoyant sedge did you know that Tusk knows about our media deal with Koronti? And can leak it ...

I actually did know that funily enough

buoyant sedge Jun 2, 2026, 8:27 AM

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I wish there was another way to get immediate BFF threat: Eliminated other than articles 6&7, emergency or quelled uprising. As much as I want to play dictator runs, having to tolerate BFF still existing irks me enough to not play them at all.

buoyant sedge Jun 2, 2026, 8:58 AM

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This is actually a good example of what I was saying, the database isn't all that good for complex stuff

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I can easily find BaseGame.Wehlen_JointOperation == true

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or say

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BaseGame.Situation_Order_BFF_ThreatEliminated

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But I cannot fucking find how to actually destroy them

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of course from the in-game experience (and Catsland ofc) I know you need the operation

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which you can only start if you have Ejall's info, from articles 6&7 or WPB banned

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ugh

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BaseGame.BFF_EliminationOperation

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starts in conversation 119, that must be the post vote cabinet meeting

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buoyant sedge Jun 2, 2026, 9:03 AM

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buoyant sedge

I cannot find how to get the info in the database, and nothing here gives me a lead what to look through next

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like if there was an "if X and Y then this option is possible"

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but nope

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Also, just from like, basic logic, I'm assuming you need the operation + BFF_Damaged

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Or well

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Look

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from my ingame experience

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Operation from articles or banned WPB
THEN
Wehlen trade deal/alliance or be friendly with Rumburg, as in no embargo, no asylum, didn't blame them
Then
BFF is destroyed

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Funded interior prevents uprising, just like that

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ont sure why it's a factor here

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but I might just be forgetting stuff

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There it is

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Like I'm assuming you need BFF Damaged and then BFF Destroyed

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This would suggest being friendly with Rumburg gets you both BFF Damaged and BFF Destroyed

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but I know you can't start the operation without the info first

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so my theory is out of the window

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idk

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I cant find anything of use, how to start the operation in other ways

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off I go to uni

silent depot Jun 2, 2026, 10:21 AM

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buoyant sedge I enjoy exploring the unknown. It's just that, actually playing the game gets me...

+++, I mean to say the fact I haven't played the game in a while but I guess that playing it before I have discovered strategies and scenarios was more adventurous and more satisfying, in my opinion

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But yeah, since everything is just a numbers and boolean values it is calculatable to get "ideal" outcome

buoyant sedge Jun 2, 2026, 3:09 PM

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I certainly wish I could go back to before I first played Sordland. I wish I could experience my first ~5 runs, rather than now, where I can basically know 95% of what will happen in a run, I just play it to confirm it

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2 years ago, huh

my-first-playthrough-what-an-absolute-disaster-v0-dp5hzbtrlrad1.png

buoyant sedge Jun 3, 2026, 11:42 AM

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I wonder what this is

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I'm yet again looking into the anti-BFF operation

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and while the usual check is at conversation 119, as in, that's when we tell Lileas to start the operation

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there's a conversation 461

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I assume it's about articles, introduced late since articles 6&7 were a 2.0 thingy

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but like what the fuck is this

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I'll look through WPB banned maybe to find the operation check

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or more so the info check

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BaseGame.Reform_EmergencyDecree_Banned_Bluds

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Only 4 mentions of "operation"

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ugh

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Fuck this bullshit

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idk

buoyant sedge Jun 3, 2026, 2:17 PM

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I'll ramble on about guides for a second. Feel free to ignore, but for any fans of my work in the chat, I'd be glad for a comment. I can't think of a good "true Sollist" run.

A radical Sollist is easy, but sucks as an idea, since it's basically "neglect welfare, neglect Agnland, Bergia and Gruni, neglect economy as a whole beyond the bare minimum". I could do it I think. Conriat Industrial Zone doesn't require regional recovery nor welfare, military industry doesn't require regional recovery nor welfare. I could be turbo radical, embargo everyone, do just Agnolia and Wehlen, or maybe Agnolia, Wehlen and Valgsland bad trade. But I just can't think of such run as a "successful" one, if I have to sacrifice so much for it.

Or I do a Neo-Sollist and be very moderate. Like the Sollist-Malenyevist, that modifies Sollism quite heavily and works well within the game's mechanics, since Sollist and malenyevist decisions often align. Or, rather than just privatizing welfare, I change it completely and make up a market economy conservative run, but I'm still unsure of the logic behind it, even more so since I can't possibly think of a good justification for selling Sordish Petroleum to Lespia.

I'm also thinking of doing almost the exact same run economically, but instead of emergency, doing articles 6&7. Just for an alternative to achieving almost the exact same results (all that changes is we don't arrest the NFP leaders, but instead democratize Sordland), but with a completely different political path.

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Then there's the Authoritarian Democrat run, that old capitalist thingy I did, maybe it deserves an update too, idk.

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I just hate how there's no way to destroy the BFF on dictator run except letting them raise up.

buoyant sedge Jun 3, 2026, 2:54 PM

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Franc didnt visit me for dinner so I was checking his opinion, and I cannot find "University_Home_Public" giving opinion, but a military school does...?

buoyant sedge Jun 3, 2026, 3:30 PM

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All right, done with updating the Sollist-Malenyevist

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I should study for the time being

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but I'm still thinking, what the fuck do I do next

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I think I'm done with the Sollist Rayne. Just, the devs repeatedly nerf conservative policies, and I hate how I either settle for something mediocre roleplay-wise, as in I'd meet all the self-imposed restrictions, but at the price of barely functional economy. I'll just get the Sollist-Malenyevist as the new main run.

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While the Wisci-inspired run was horribly bad from a roleplaying perspective, I can update it, sorta. "Sollist-Reformist" is a dumb name, but the idea was to do a moderate constitution, meet Ejall and jump on the opportunity to destroy the BFF, that's the main reason we end up as a radical democrat. The problem of this run is that economically, I'd do almost the exact same run, just change emergency to democratic reforms and do partial OBT instead of full.

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Uuuuuuuuh I'm not sure. I believe it can be minmaxed with Agnolia + Lespia alliance, but I'd leave BFF alone, which I hate, so I think I'm leaving that run as it is. Not good, not bad, just a run.

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Sollist Rayne v2 is boring, because it's basically the same run I just did, but instead of Yugoslavia, I privatize education and healthcare. More or less the stuff adds up so we end up in a similar spot.

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Kinda wanna drop it, or rework it heavily to actually promote market economy and do a market economy conservative run

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Soll's legacy run could be fun...? Soll's legacy requires unimpeachable president, stronger decrees and full veto. The problem of BFF Remains, unless I make them raise up on purpose, but then the problem of the debt crisis remains, as in too many lategame crisises

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I don't even remember what that was

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a dictator run that's anti sollist, huh. Well whatever

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Sollist-Reformist, but I need to think of a better name OR capitalist emergency.

#Reading through the game files while losing my mind