(Spoiler for some events in base game)

[west veldt]

The average suzerain player hates Monica, but instantly believes what she says about bluds, very interesting.

[regal orbit]

Mental Decline*

[regal orbit]

I don't hate Monica :(

[violet nexus]

Have you read the ending where the NFP wins

It's the same regardless of whether Kaesaro or Remus won

[regal orbit]

I haven't managed to make it happen, so actually no!

[violet nexus]

They both promote eugenics, invest in the military and start Nationalizing assets own by Bludish families, at some point they even come forward with a plan to nullify the citizenship of al Bludish citizens

Does that remind you of someone

[regal orbit]

They promise eugenics? I haven't seen that myself, and I have no issue with investing in the military. For nationalizing assets if it's only Bludish assets then sure that's something, but does it specificy that? Also that post itself was about Bludish people and culture, I wasn't trying to talk a ton about the NFP.

[violet nexus]

they don't "promise" eugenics

That's the thing

They kinda just use words to convince people to give them power then act on their true interests

[regal orbit]

But what does the game say exactly?

[violet nexus]

Remus' is exactly the same, only the name changes

[regal orbit]

Hmm, interesting

I just haven't seen this anywhere else, nor seena nyone talk about it

[earnest ivy]

Remus and kibener are playing good and bad cop

Basically kibener keeps Remus next to him to so Kibener seem like the moderate despite them sharing the same Goal

[regal orbit]

That would make sense

I was just basing my thoughts off what they actually say and does, and from what I say it seemed like Kibener didn't hate Bluds, but wanted them to be integrated into Sordish society, (which I think is best), but I suppose not

I never managed to see the NFP ending myself before now so I didn't know

[earnest ivy]

I am not saying he is not

But kibener says things he doesn't belive in

Like he lies to Sell the idea of assimilation

But kibner and Remus Ideas are the same

Kibener is just being a good politician

[regal orbit]

Yeah, I just thought he actually believed in it.

My bad for believing someone is being honest with their intentions though

In politics, one should only trust their own convictions, is what I've learned now

[earnest ivy]

That's why I love kibener

If you look at Sordish politics he is the best from all the cast

And most efficient despite his party only having 40 seats he keep getting his Bills passed through

[regal orbit]

And he's the only one that didn't study political theory, law, or economics

He studied art I'm pretty sure

[earnest ivy]

What is worse he Graduated art school

So we got a toned down version

Imagine if he Failed

[regal orbit]

Bergia est omnis divisa in partes tres