#How many would be interested in a Nation RP server based solely on Suzerain?
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You already know I want
Yh I’m j seeing if anyone else would
I’m down
I’m down to clown
I would be interested
I'm sure as hell would be down too
Does it having a working AN and MFI system?
The AN is fairly simple and so far worked well enough when I have done it, what’s MFI?
Oh the loan stuff right uh
When I’ve done it
No one has ever “gone into debt”
So, the AN has you vote on resolutions, ja?
Yeah
We’ve had several… interesting… votes in the past
Lemme guess, 'Gas Bluds' was voted in with 93 ayes - 0 nays - 0 abstains
Aye
We had one where Lasomby staged a fake border incident with Solme Maor, and the options were:
Send peacekeepers
Do nothing
Investigation with no peacekeepers
Abstain
Should have option to send “peacekeepers” to control vital government facilities in the capital
The investigation with no peacekeepers won
And a war started
How would the war system work?
That same season, Contana was like properly funding the central Xinan war
We have a fairly simple system. Both sides ( if there are players on Both sides) send their moves to the GM, and the GM then uses those and common sense to make a result
If it’s Player v AI, then the player sends it to the GM, and then the GM uses common sense
Shouldn’t u use dice rolls?
Do you have a world map or are custom nations allowed?
Too much luck based
I don't want Wahr to defeat UC at the Battle of Kyow by being simply lucky
But at least you know its not biased
Plus you can put advantage and stuff
Depending on the strategy
Or maybe, have competent mods and RPers make their own war bulletins
If something defies reality, apply for it to be voided
I believe there was even a realism Discord bot
Honestly, I’ve used Dice rolls before
Well people won’t debate a dice roll
People will debate mod decision
And they have come with some absolutely atrocious outcomes
I was in a RP once playing a nation with a terrible army going against someone who was preparing for war for decades
And I won with pure dice rolls
That’s why u should put advantage and stuff
But eh
Maybe depending on how one sided it is
Maybe use it if it’s more balanced
That would be too much calculations and stuff
Better army than 2 rolls and take higher number
Worst army then roll 2 and take the lower number
But it was just my suggestion
The GM should decide
But I would like to join if we make one
Yeah, I agree with human modding
Add in the realism Discord bot
And a whole two-mod authentication and appeals
Bias would probably be the most worrying about this
Solved
Atleast on my end, the only bias I would have is not wanting to have the war end in 1 move s
So for example I might have a miracle happen to avoid insta death
Unless it’s like Wahr v Free cities
Or smthn
Another thing is that I often leave a lot of autonomy for the players
So you do not have to stick to historical
How do you plan to prevent OOC knowledge bias?
For example, the Sordland player will know who killed Bernard Circas
So what if they switch the body guards using this OOC knowledge?
So if the RP starts in 1949 (which if this happens it probably will, unless someone wants another date), the Sordland player doesn’t have to elect Ewald, or Lespia doesn’t have to join ATO
In a case like Circas, it’s up to the player rlly, if they want him to die, they can, but they don’t have to. Like if they are going commie, they can have him live, although it will obv have consequences
Obv
Maybe it can have a butterfly effect
It doesn’t have to be exactly like it happens in suzerain
That’s why I enjoy NRPs
It leaves so much to the players
If the shooter can't murder Circas, a stray bullet accidently hits Petr
And I hate when there are so many restrictions on players
Or ever worse: Anton
Like keeping it historical
Who knows if Anton is even elected
Maybe the FPJP wins in 1949
Or god forbid
The NFP wins
The USP has the Soll factor
The NFP would need to enter a toleration agreement with someone to prevent a USP win
Obv it won’t be easy to win
But as I said
I leave it up to the players
Obv mega stupid moves
Like NFP or FPJP siding with Contana will be blocked
It's PFJP, right?
Anyways, give me the server link god damn it!
I’ll work on it asap
Would be cool to watch/participate
This will likely be the map we will be using (although if you have any other/better, I’ll take em)
Here is another world map that you could use if you wish
This map is superior imo
As long as the map can be modified to include border changes due to wannabe map painters, I'm fine with whichever is chosen
We should do a date where the Wehzek civil war is still happening
I think that would create a lot of interesting rp
Ngl I just want to be Kyrute
So I can be neutral and be a negotiator
I will make Kyrute elect a centrist party that will literally take a middle ground on everything and be completely neutral
Switzerland 2.0
I usually have it so whoever is Kyrute is also president of the AN
If there isn’t a Kyrute player, I usually do it
Because the headquarters is in Kyrute
Only reason why
(I also thought that the president of AN is also leader of Kyrute for a while)
(Lol same)
K well if I’m the president of AN then I can’t vote for things (well I can but traditionally I’m not supposed to)
What is fun with dice rolls? It take all the fun and strategy from the war mechanic and throws it out of the Window. And if people cant accept failing a war then they shouldnt be in this nrp in the first place
I think it actually would be kinda cool to lose a war then plan your revenge to strike back in the enemys moment of weakness
Idk it was just a suggest
But anyways, which nation are you going to play as
Probably Kyrute
Interesting
(I will PayPal 5 bucks if you always are on my side)
Of course I will not accept this blatant attack on transparency
(6 bucks)
I didnt mean to offend you honorable sir
(Deal)
Lol
Now be gone
(It’s good to know we came to an agreement)
@violet meteor hey let us know hen the discord server is avaible
I am dont have any experience with building a rp server, but if you need help i can try to help in any capacity i can @violet meteor
Sir yes sir 🫡
It’s fine I’ve basically gone got everything done. Only missing a few bots and we are set
Thanks for the offer tho 🙂
I’m already experienced in NRPs so imma immediately get to work
If I get my own channel, I’m giving equipment stats on my military
Exact tank models, aircraft etc
Because I am self obligated to do so
@violet meteor
Dice rolls suck
I was in a political sim, I and my friends did a coup with the entire military at our disposal. When some militia of 1000 poorly trained civilians rose up against us. I ordered like 25,000 military soldiers and 500 tanks to attack
And we lost cuz of some stupid dice roll
And the coup failed cuz of that
On just your own country?
Uhhh you sorta get a channel.
Yh. I use the forums feature so people can just create their own like nation place to put their stuff in
Ok
So a thread then?
If it’s not a channel
No, a forum like this one
Will there be any regulations? Like having 100 000 soldiers as wahr seems unrealistic
No regulations but you will suffer in rp for doing stuff
Unless it’s like ridiculously dumb
Then it’s just a void
Seems decent
Hmm are only nations in merkopa allowed? I don’t think we should spread out that much
Now make the server
The first wars happen in Rika and Xina
The entire world is open
The newspapers speak about that
What I usually did is for nation which we know little to nothing about
And we're set in the 40s, remember?
It’s up to the player to decide
But shouldn’t we stick together?
Obv there are some restrictions to what you can do
So the RP will affect each other?
U can’t do like no.1 global power
No Arcasia or Contana?
I usually have it so before an rp starts, there has to be a player for the 2 superpowers, Valgs, Lespia and maybe a few more nations
1949
Ngl I really think we should only RP superpowers and nations in merkopa so our actions affect each other and we are pretty close to each other
Before Valero dies and Soll disappears
Still violent era for the two continents
If our nations are spread apart from each other than it would be less engaging
We should probably stick close to each other
There will be AI
So you can be like Vendonesam
And interact with like a nation such as Pinar
Without a Pinar player
I’d assume most nations will be around Antacean
Eh then whats the point of an RP when we can use AI?
/players
I really think we should all be close to each other in merkopa
I mean we can put it up to a vote
Also if we get more people in we can get more nations
Ok but personally if we use AI then what’s the point? People signed up so we can rp with other people
You still can
AI will only be used if there isn’t a player for the nation you wanna interact with
Yeah
I think eastern merkopa and north xina would be better so no nations are in charge for AI
We can even do western Rika
So if you are playing Sordland, and wanna talk with Agnolia even if there is no player, you still can
Yeah but then what’s the difference between doing RP yourself with ChatGPT?
We should all be neighboring each other in eastern merkopa
That the AI won’t be AI necessary
It will be a human
A GM
When I say AI, I’m more referring to a nation without a player
Who (if needed) will be acted by a GM for a meeting or smthn
Ok but still we should stick close to each other in one continent
So we are all neighboring each other
Especially if we have less people
Will we be able to get help to give your nation a codex? I feel like i wouldnt be able to construct an entire nation codex out of my own imagination. And putting specific numbers on military equipment would also be hard for me
Eastern and south merkopa would be our best bet
Ofc, I will help if anything
I mean we can just yk, try and get more people
Atleast you could decide the Base, after that we would be able to be more free
I think we should do Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella
I personally despise restricting players ability to RP
Maybe also free cities and Qinal
This is still a wide selection of nations with different ideologies
We have the added bonus of being next to each other and having some lore established
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, and Agard
I think it’s a good starting point
The whole of eastern and south merkopa
If we could get more ppl in on this
Well, I Kinda agree with both. Restricting too much will be boring but allowing people to play all over the map will be too unstable. I Kinda agree with it being like eastern and southern merkopa because people can then play different ministers too
I swr there was a lot of people in the Rizia rp when they did it?
If we could attract a few of them
My server defo has a few people I could get on board
We could defo get like a solid 20 active people
Well, im sure that there are a lot of people that want to play in a rp server but due to like not being able to promote the server will make attracting people hard
And being restricted to time zones also makes it harder to have an active server
I wish I could get a promo from Torpor 😭😭😢
That would spike activity fr fr
True, I would like it if this server have a section where rp servers can be promoted with some restrictions so that there wont be like serge Hegel *** server
Well I made a list of nations that people should pick from (Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg)
I have a partnership thing
Oh right this one
I’m not sure if we should add Arcasia or Contana
We defo should bruh
Well, there is like no competition to rumburg, it would be like USA in the cold war without USSR
Good point
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
Here a list of nations that people can pick from but already have some established lore and are close to each other
I might be wrong but isnt erdmarg West of rumburg?
Making it quite far away from the rest of the nations (except for rumburg) and making it pretty much dependent on rumburg
They have Agard
Too
And free cities
I’m defo playing Valgsland
I made sure everyone here had at least 2 player neighbors
Plus most of the nations are fully surrounded by players that I listed
But I’ll atleast troll Galmland 
Fair enough, just think it might feel to distant from the rest
Well Galmland its pretty far away too
But have lore
“Lore”
And important to CSP politics
But they have acces to the sea
POV: Galmland lore
Erdmarg dont
Yeah but they have neighbors to their east and south
With players
We can always add more nations close to each other as we get new players
How does democracy work in this game? You choose a party but if you lose you become what?
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
A lot of nations with different ideologies
You uhh you keep playing
As the nation
Uh ur more of a nation than a party
Yeah
Ah ok
Gotcha
You also kinda get to decide who you want to win
So are ministers a viable position to play as or is only head of states available
U can play as a party
Within reason
Ofc
Yh yh
so no serge wolkner party winning? 😦
That’s an exception
He can only win through a secret stimulus
I’ll be the best spreader of communism ever
You mean socialism?
Morella and Wehlen in the CSP 1951
Valgslandian socialism 😉
But in Sordland the only possible winners are PFJP or USP in 1949
Or military coup
If they fail
So like democratic socialism
“Democratic socialism” Hegel in power for atleast 18 years, if not more
I will probably play as Wehlen so I can coup
True, but isnt he elected by his own party and is not immune to removal of the same party?
That’s j Marxist Leninism no?
Its like North Korean multi party elections
They are all in the same coalition
And they decide the leader
Maybe, idk, just imagined hegel being more democratic and liberal than like regular socialism
He is like keeping up appearances of democracy and decentralizing but still authoritarian
Although it’s more free than Contana
But he seems fair, just and really cares about his people
It’s more centre than Malenyevism
Galmland……
His own ally
Choked by him
For stepping out of CSP platform
We dont talk about galmland
I think the player of Galmland will probably secede
After being exploited by CSP
Unless military coup
Did you make?
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
These nations
We shall expand if we get more players
Plus it means we are all close together
Won't the Qinal player be isolated?
They have Pales, Free Cities, Morella, Kyrute, Derdia, and Rizia
Plus they have lore
Yea it's good I guess
So 18 players for now
Yeah 16 in merkopa and 2 superpowers
If we get more we should expand southwest
And Rika if we really exceeded expectations and get a lot of players
But I think 18 will suffice
Lasomby, Solme-maor, Wahr, Montesayette, and Kalrad is next for expansion
If we get more
@young yacht
Hallo
Hmm, you sound too German
Bonjour
Oki
@violet meteor when would this NRP start?
Guys react if you’re interested
Guys react if you’re interested
It would be nice if we could surpass the 18 nations threshold
Lasomby, Solme-maor, Wahr, Montesayette, and Kalrad is next for expansion
I wanna be Montesayette just because of how it sounds
@gray vault put check mark
Fr*nchy
Not open yet
Too f*ench
I’m trying my best to get it all in central, eastern, southern merkopa
Bleah
With cheeky 1 Xina
Wanna suffer an Blood Infection or an French Infection
Blood infection all the way
What's gonna be the year?
1949
And it's not a good experience buddy
Excellent, thank you
What about all that eastern part with Solme-Maor and Kalrad?
Too far away from the rest of RP
It could be possible if we got 25-ish people
After that we should probably focus on north Rika for some Galmland neighbors
I’m really worried if we overstretch
I’m trying to get everything compact so we are all close together
Like from Kalrad and Galmland is already big
Fjeld Madrejk
Yea, I already don't see the Free city player interact with the Galmand one
Plus I have policy in my nation list that I guaranteed to have at least 2 players are neighboring u
I propose that we would be able to also play as minister, we can get mlre players without having to constantly add more nations to the rp
Nuclear countries should be given to trustable players...
Rumburg gonna send nuke to Erdmarg and Sordland
Like a socialist freak like yourself?
Yeah but I suggest only putting leaders rn
We should stop them
So we can fill the countries we have
I think they shouldn't be given at all
Well it's more of an HOI4 than a government rp
Yeah Ik
The GM should have Arcasia UC and Rumburg, as they all have nuclear weapons
I mean leaders like players
Nah I think we should give them to players
At this pace we will definitely fill out the nations. @violet meteor even said that he would be able to gather some people from another server into this one
So they can like use their political skills to gain more people to their alliance
Superpowers to GM or Players
Have more faith in the players
GM
They’re not going to launch nuclear bombs on turn 1
Plus Arcasia is a democracy
It has to pass several checks
UC and Rumburg too
Just because you control the country doesn’t mean people won’t resist
It should be a auto ban if they nuke at the start
It really all depends if the people that get it want to have fun or be complete douchebag
Doesn't really mean anything if we're talking about nuclear bombs
Still I think players will enjoy trying to persuade other players to join their alliance
This one is horrible
I think we should stick to the original list
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
Lespia and Rizia will say no
Who knows?
Hmm I was thinking of bidding for Wehlen or Sordland but just to stop the commies maybe Rizia
I might very well take over Lespia just to approve MITZ deal
Have to be realistic
I understand that the foreign policy will be like hoi4, but I also really like the government rp that exist in the game suzerain. Would like it if the country leaders had some government rp that only affects the nation, like budget for ministers, projects, decrees
Lespian Democratic Socialist party in a "Popular Front" with some Centrists and Leftists?
We could have a basic budget system
To fund military and other stuff
Will work?
No
Probably not
Lespia is a capitalist protectionistic country
How the heck would it become socialist
Who would vote for this especially because the elections are corrupt?
Social democratic
Apologies, I am in a forest with like 1 bar of internet
Also, Volksfront was a very real thing
I’m pretty sure we should leave ideological beliefs for the nations you believe in to not stir up everything
Just take a communist country
We want to have a balance of power
I need a Communist Rizia
Social Democracy can absoljutely exist
Good luck survivng da coup
Still balance of power
Not fun if everything is leaning to one side
Ah yes, a country that depsises everything with socialism that has a large support for the existing ideology just out of nowhere becomes socialist?
True
Anyways, I wasn't planning on a red utopia for once
I was thinking about some random Xinan or Rikan nation
Depends on player 😋
Eh we have a list of nations to pick from
We are keeping everyone close to each other
No, pls not this shit again deniz
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
How about Asa'Dikuur?
God internet
Eh, I don't really like any of them
People want Communism I will give em
People wanted to stick together
Well, you gotta deal with coalition politics too
Is this the server owner's decree?
Yeah 😔
Just no, btw how does unity trough diversity even work? Arent they two contradicting statements
Works in India
No but people wanted it
I created a list so people won’t go super far away
That makes more sense
If we are so far away from each other then what’s the point of an RP
Just do your own thing at that point
I thought it was like promoting diversity in religion/culture/language to make like everyone different. Then it wouldnt be unity
@violet meteor Please give your stance on whether players can be free to rule Asa'dikuur
No
I think this is a pretty reasonable list
Remember, most people are gonna be wannabe map painters
Filled with variety
Imperial decree from me clearly states that it is impossible
What is asa’dikuur?
And the most wars happen in Xina and Rika at the start
Coalition with Socialists won't make my work harder
A nation in Rika
We are going to go fast anyway
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
Define fast
Is a reasonable list
1 week 1 year or something like that
That's slow af
I've seen RPs set in this time period do 2 days 1 year
We shouldn’t
True
Things will go too fast for that
So, can I play or no?
Your coalition probably consist of hardcore Malenyevists, Rationalists, and Revisionists
Tbh you’re going to be far away from most people
Holy fuck that is fast. Like you forget to go online for like 4 days and all of a sudden there is a civil war in your country
The point of this is to do geopolitics
Rika and Xina are where the wars are
Even if I do conform to the list, which nations can I really play as?
War is like a last resort
Geopolitics is the point
UC, Arcasia, Sord, Rizia will be taken immediately
Not in Xina and Rika
Do you not read the codex?
U don’t know that
Or Geopolitico?
I’m talking about in the list
It’s supposed to be about geopolitical and realpolitik
Is Agard a blank nation?
Ah yeah that’s why I added
Only that its a republic I’m pretty sure
And government titles?
Nah
Good we get to stick together
It's gonna be about as politically stable as Germany between 1928-1933
💀
Hopefully a failed painter won’t take over
Talking about failed painter, I had once come up with an alternate timeline where he pursued his dream of architecture
He becomes a peace activist who opposes the civil war in Germany as well as the Allied 'special military operation' in the Rhineland
Hey if it’s blank canvases u want if u find people to occupy positions in neighboring territories u can pick one of these
Lasomby, Solme-maor, Wahr, Montesayette, and Kalrad is next for expansion
Make sure u have players neighboring u tho
Ahh truely the AN
If you get people to occupy countries bordering these nations u can pick Lasomby, Solme-maor, Wahr, Montesayette, or Kalrad
Alright, I've decided on Agard
Or stick with Agard but we shall see during the final nation picking
They'll have some stability, but man are the coalitions stressful
If one is made I think I’ll go Qinal
Luckily for you it’s on the list
Agnolia, Valgsland, Rumburg, Wehlen, Sordland, Kyrute, Galmland, Rizia, Pales, Derdia, Morella, Free Cities, Qinal, Lespia, Agard, Erdmarg, Arcasia, United Contana
You can play as Qinal
Basically how playing as Agard will look like
I want to be Wehlen
Only if you free the Bluds
Lol
We shall see when we all bid
Which kind of freeing is up to you
In the game, there are even more coalition options
Let’s see, your gonna be the BFF?
When we create server we shall have a meeting where we bid on nations to play
Agard
I was thinking either Wehlen or Sordland
Hea I played it
Did you do the WTB?
The economic plan? Yes I did
This map would greatly explore new options
Nahh too big
*not big enough
We are trying to get people to be neighbors not the complete other side of the world
Sure
I gave up on Asa'diruuk
I am now Agard
Now, we wait for the server
Also secondary staff are going to be needed
Nice
Great
You could have done this in general off topic just letting you know
Also mass pings will get you timed out automatically just dm them
@tawny crag
@tawny crag join we're starting the rp
@young yacht
I know and I apologies, Wont happen again
Why 😭
I just kidnnsa likke
I’m doing too many projects at once
And should optimise
I thought we were friends 😦 we had a perfect relationship. Galmland and agard
Yes, but with an ai
I just might have gotten an international buyer for the medicine
We could have monopolized drug and medicine trade in merkopa
😭
Piotr can replace me right
Idk, he hasnt taken the spot yet
What is RP?
Roleplay
Meh, I like Ejja more
It's Rikan and I can still RP as a bunch of squabling coalitions
Is this till going on?
Yes, you can still join!
Yay!, just did
Would you also be interested in a sordland socialist rp? Its not yet finished but you can join and show support atleast
u mean like
dictatorial socialist?
maybe
Not really, more like a socialist republic