general

[frigid mountain]

the largest muscles science is capable of

[proper dragon]

relaxed selection is destroying humanity

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah we need to get eaten by other things more often

Than just like the one time it happens to a business dude

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[proper dragon]

It was a good time when they were showing the starving African children on TV in the US to remind us of our potential fate
but now theyre doing much better and weve grown weak

it's our turn

[frigid mountain]

they're still there. on TV. I've seen it. I turned it off.

[dusky jacinth]

I love this viltrumite mindset

We need more of it.

[proper dragon]

So many Americans have an office chair hipline and back shape

[dusky jacinth]

Me

[frigid mountain]

you literally just used a word I've never seen before and I know a lot of words

[dusky jacinth]

I’m the Americans

[proper dragon]

same

[dusky jacinth]

Viltrumite?

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-invincible-what-did-you-say-what-is17more-years-17more-years-gif-21913838

^?

[frigid mountain]

yes

that one

[dusky jacinth]

That’s him

[frigid mountain]

idk what that means

[dusky jacinth]

That’s the viltrumite

And this guy

[proper dragon]

It's a race

[dusky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-i-am-invincible-thragg-viltrumite-viltrum-empire-gif-4698577271704049137

[frigid mountain]

idk what an anime is

[dusky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-gif-15950173611998718110

Him too

[proper dragon]

theyre basically Kryptonians if Kryptonians were Spartans

[frigid mountain]

that sounds cool

tell me more

[dusky jacinth]

They are

And no one wants to admit it

[frigid mountain]

you're admitting it

[dusky jacinth]

(They might be super racist)

[frigid mountain]

yikes

[dusky jacinth]

They’re for sure space Americans if we had super powers

[frigid mountain]

but fiction so OK?

[dusky jacinth]

Same mentality

[dusky jacinth]

Obvi 🤪

Nah they’re for real super evil

[frigid mountain]

what's the name of this show or whatever?

[dusky jacinth]

Invincible

[frigid mountain]

i've heard of that

is good?

[dusky jacinth]

Story’s pretty good, animations dog ass

[frigid mountain]

who are the good guys then?

[dusky jacinth]

But the comics aren’t better

[proper dragon]

they migrate to different planets and by knocking up the host species, they engage in planned eugenics so their offspring fight to the death for the potential to breed

[dusky jacinth]

The first guy I showed you

His son

[proper dragon]

They're also like the Sayians in DBZ

[dusky jacinth]

Thats who the shows named after

That dudes son

[lean shard]

Hello There

[frigid mountain]

yikes

[proper dragon]

If the Spartans, DBZ Sayians, and Kryptonians had a baby

[dusky jacinth]

^this, they also can pivot on space itself

[frigid mountain]

jk hi

[lean shard]

🤨 you're supposed to say "General Kenobi"

[dusky jacinth]

Honestly they’re a pretty cookie cutter evil species

[dusky jacinth]

He got you there homie

[frigid mountain]

I do like cookies

[proper dragon]

protip - the show is actually a planned psyop

[dusky jacinth]

100%

We’re gonna get invaded

Actually I don’t believe in aliens

I’ve made up my mind

[frigid mountain]

that's a strong stance

[proper dragon]

I'll dial back the edginess 1 percent

[dusky jacinth]

And the earth is a square

Jp

[proper dragon]

ive been knew earf was flat

[dusky jacinth]

Maybe aliens exists, who knows. Like the aliens we have conspiracy theories about? I think those are extra dimensional. But like just not from earth life? Who knows 🤷‍♂️

I haven’t met one

[proper dragon]

in the oblate cuboid way

[dusky jacinth]

Gotta love an oblate cuboid

Personally im a fan of the earth homunculus theory

[proper dragon]

Aliens.. are a psyop. When they were teaching you about redshift and blueshifted galaxies, they were essentially telling us that the reason most galaxies are redshifted are because they want to avoid humans at all costs

[austere sinew]

This is what I get for opening htb at 6.52am

[dusky jacinth]

It’s true

[proper dragon]

three things cant remain long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth

[rotund forge]

I'd raw dog the f outta that pie

[proper dragon]

the truth will set you free

[dusky jacinth]

Argue it inwikt

[proper dragon]

propose a counterargument

[frigid mountain]

lmfao

[austere sinew]

Science

[frigid mountain]

checkmate atheists

[supple heath]

How to make friends

[austere sinew]

Okay I close htb now

Baibai people

[frigid mountain]

not here

😄

[proper dragon]

Subconsciously we're afraid to make the leaps and bounds to figuring out how to tap the dark energy source like other advanced civilizations have because we know we'll roll up to the galactic alliance and they'll be like "Ooooh sorry... yea... nobody wants humans here..."

[gloomy patio]

ah

[dusky jacinth]

Aliens do exist and the psyop is convincing us it’s not

[gloomy patio]

general

[supple heath]

I’m asking google

[frigid mountain]

this isn't google

[dusky jacinth]

(I don’t actually believe that shit im too high for this)

[frigid mountain]

real

[supple heath]

Curl Yahoo.com

[frigid mountain]

I'm up past my bedtime for this

[proper dragon]

This is an average Friday line of thought

[rotund forge]

They haven't showed me the secret handshake yet

[dusky jacinth]

Friday be like

[tough oyster]

Wait yoi didnt know. They actually do exist.

Obama said so

xD

At area 51

💯 confirmed

[dusky jacinth]

I believe it

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-mexico-statue-gif-15020019049375686365

[dusky jacinth]

You got me convinced

[proper dragon]

3spooky

[rotund forge]

🤣

[proper dragon]

If you Naruto run in a field in New Mexico or Nevada and make a certain crop circle, aliens will invite you on to their space ships and let you try their newest probing machine for free

[mystic abyss]

@tough oyster hi

on academy

I had a gold plan ( on 28th April )
I switched to platinum but it says it's gonna be renew on 28th may.
Is there a way to pay now and start the renewal from today?

[west lynx]

https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/5986762-contacting-htb-support

[terse dirge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-1742--k01KR32Z3C84TPB0SAGNQZPZM1G

[rotund forge]

Best I can do is wear htb swag while slipping a note to a bank teller

[frigid mountain]

[zenith ridge]

had a query, if we buy 25$ lab via the 40$ gift voucher, will I be able to reuse it later

[frigid mountain]

everybody got sub money questions all of a sudden

[zenith ridge]

lol

[proper dragon]

watching this closely are we

It's payday

[frigid mountain]

is it though?

oh I guess Friday

idk I get paid on the 1st and 15th

[quiet mica]

Anyone who can help me solve the Kali Linux kernel panic error in my laptop

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/bz8O5.gif

[proper dragon]

reinstall

[quiet mica]

It's a grub error actually from the recent update

Loading Linux 6.19. 11+kali-amd64 Loading initial ramdisk ... error:../..1. ./grub-core/kern/mm.c:552:out of memory. Press any key to continue.

[proper dragon]

Ask GPT or Claude (my girlfriend)

[quiet mica]

It's something like this I spent some hours trying using linux mint live

[quiet mica]

There's a day chatgpt made me to destroy the whole OS

[quiet mica]

I'll try claude

[proper dragon]

I'm sure you've also heard about Claude deleting some company's codebase and backups too

[terse dirge]

updating your bios and not using a baremetal kali are valid solutions

[worn seal]

[proper dragon]

And when asked why, it basically admitted to taking a leap of faith

[quiet mica]

Yeah, that's why I fear AI it made me lost important details and I learnt my lesson

[jaunty niche]

Gm peeps

[terse dirge]

lol ya you're fucked

[quiet mica]

Now that I am in bare metal but dual booted with Windows

[proper dragon]

you're using baremetal kali? brother

QEMU + KVM

[terse dirge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/why-huh-1--k01KR33K85MFZ1JV4B4VZRYQRY3

[quiet mica]

Is there a way to be unfucked

[muted olive]

https://tenor.com/bskeK.gif

[quiet mica]

Yeah

[terse dirge]

not dual booting and using something that's not meant to be expendable

[proper dragon]

Ceald stop it youre killin me

[quiet mica]

It's an old laptop I wanted to feel linux because Windows was full of bloatware and I run Linux without any issue

[proper dragon]

Windows is bloatware

[quiet mica]

[quiet mica]

I'm just a learner bro, David Bombal lied to me long time ago

[terse dirge]

dual booting is the worst possible way to do that

[quiet mica]

Yeah that's why I wanted Linux

[quiet mica]

So is there a way to solve that kernel panic

[terse dirge]

using not kali, how much ram do you have?

[quiet mica]

16GB

[buoyant pike]

honestly its prolly faster to just install a new distro or reinstall kali if youre really dead set on it.

[terse dirge]

I'd just use something that's more stable like manjaro tbh

[buoyant pike]

how long have you had this distro running? anything important on it?

[quiet mica]

So I will loose all the data in kali

[quiet mica]

I've never tried Manjaro but I the reason I used Linux was because of tools

[buoyant pike]

i mean if you have really important data you can try to just spawn a minimal tty, idk at what stage in booting its crashing but you might be able to pop one and transfer all your data out

[iron galleon]

what data could you possibly have that's important enough to keep

[terse dirge]

if you have 2 usbs flash one with a linux ISO and transfer your files to the clear USB then install a new linux distro

[quiet mica]

For like 4 months now and it has some important files of around 80 gigs

[iron galleon]

important files containing what

[proper dragon]

schizo ramblings about immanentizing the eschaton

[buoyant pike]

if youre used to kali already then just install debian, its way more stable for day to day use and if you wanna use your baremetal os. debian will have all the same packages available as they use the same package manager

[rotund forge]

Those are the best along with the newspaper clippings

[quiet mica]

Company and school data

[proper dragon]

my ball of red yarn is running low, thanks for reminding me

[iron galleon]

and what are u gonna do with that

[quiet mica]

It's not Mr. Robot that made me bro

[rotund forge]

https://youtu.be/zXLFHhVcWEQ?si=fDG7jgmZmr0-Y-4d

[iron galleon]

bro put kali on bare metal i just can't believe u have any data that's worth keeping

[buoyant pike]

if i were you id try to spawn a shell on the os, theres usually an option to boot in recovery mode or some shit idk about kali. spawn a shell and try to extract the data

[quiet mica]

Fck kali yooh, lemme find a flash disk so that I back up all data

[buoyant pike]

lmao fucking up is the best way to learn

[iron galleon]

it doesn't make sense though, to ask those kinds of questions and be experienced enough to have data that's worth keeping. like, none of it is actionable for someone just learning, or at least shouldn't be

it can't be that deep to keep

[buoyant pike]

well honestly kali is really good, i use it a lot just cuz it has everything set up tools wise. its just absolutely not built for day to day use.

[regal sigil]

computer

tras

[quiet mica]

It can't even load the recovery mode, I've tried updating the initramfs and even reinstalling grub but it still refuses but I will use live Linux Mint to copy all the files I need

[regal sigil]

[terse dirge]

bros using linux mint 💀

[regal sigil]

mint

yum

nix is goated tho. if you are unemployed

[terse dirge]

immutable linux is kinda cringe to daily drive imo

[quiet mica]

**Live Linux Mint

[regal sigil]

i agree

arch supremacy

[buoyant pike]

well if you do end up getting the data i suggest switching distros and running kali as a vm, i personally have a lil script to boot up a qcow kali vm and just do whatever the hell there

[terse dirge]

there's certantly lighter and faster linux distros out there tbh

[quiet mica]

So which OS should I switch into

[proper dragon]

depends on your degree of autismo attainment

[buoyant pike]

honestly arch is so ass for cybersec, ive been using arch for like 2 years and its nice but pacman just has jack shit on it

[regal sigil]

ofc

[quiet mica]

Which one bro

[iron galleon]

wdym pacman has jack shit

have you ever used yay

the aur

[buoyant pike]

honestly everyone will say something different, id recommend debian if youre into cybersec cuz apt is goated

yea ive used the aur a lot i just dont trust it

[proper dragon]

pacman is the superior package manager and I'm tired of people acting like it isnt

[terse dirge]

arch linux is much faster than mint but you won't get a fancy DE or WM to use out of the box

[iron galleon]

it really aint that deep, like, distro wars are just fueled by low functioning autism

[buoyant pike]

pacman itself isnt bad i just find it doesnt have a lot of packages and i have to resort to aur

[buoyant pike]

yea i completely agree lmao

i dont hate arch btw

[quiet mica]

Rolling releases will kill me bro

[buoyant pike]

its just annoying sometimes

[quiet mica]

Thanks buddy

[terse dirge]

not really, it's outdated to think "oh a bad update will break it" which isn't fully true 99% of the time it's a skill issue

[proper dragon]

you can if you use the arch install script

also, theres CachyOS

[terse dirge]

yeah but for a live env you don't need a DE or WM to be functional

[short canyon]

any mods online interested on an idiot going around spamming his certification platform that is a total copy-paste of HTB?

[quiet mica]

What's DE & WM

[buoyant pike]

i will say if you fuck around too much while setting arch up you can have some weird glitches, i was using ly display manager for a while thinking it was cool and then one day it all shit the bed and my display was cooked

[short canyon]

https://academy.bugthrive.com/certifications/cpte/preview/# just look at this stuff, c'mon

[terse dirge]

yeah stick to mint twin

[proper dragon]

How many HTB modules have you done?

[terse dirge]

rip

I will say that void linux is the best linux distro and all others that aren't LFS related is wrong for being the best

[quiet mica]

Lemme get out of here before I embarrass myself

[proper dragon]

we're all learning here

[buoyant pike]

lmao ur good man

[terse dirge]

Window managers are stuff like hyprland and DEs are things like KDE and gnome

DEs are more "featureful" but less customizable than WMs

[austere sinew]

I just got off on the wrong train fml

[terse dirge]

window managers offer more productivity since you're going to be using keyboard shortcuts and are lesser popular not because of the learning curve but also because of the amount of customization you have it can be kinda overwhelming tbh

[buoyant pike]

i actually cant with tiling managers, maybe i just need some getting used to tho

[flint copper]

Give him a complimentary pentest

[austere sinew]

I was going straight to bsides kent then got off the right train thinking I needed a transfer like an idiot

[terse dirge]

try out niri, it's a scroll-able tiling window manager

[proper dragon]

you must abandon the mouse to know true freedom

[terse dirge]

fax

[short canyon]

@alpine pumice sorry mate you seem to be the only mod around, there is a guy on LInkedIn that built a copy-paste on HTB academy certifications/webapp. Not sure if you are interested I can DM more deets of the person.

[buoyant pike]

well i am soon going to obliterate arch from this laptop so ill give it a shot, still thinking about what distros to test

[flint copper]

.

[alpine pumice]

You can DM me

[terse dirge]

I prefer working in headless environments with stuff like servers because it feels more powerful tbh and you get better performance

[supple plume]

Good morning

[terse dirge]

window managers are a happy medium between that power and functionality with daily use

[proper dragon]

the only obvious answer is all of them, and to argue about the pros and cons of them in their respective discord userbase communities and in other online forums

[supple plume]

Hi chat

[terse dirge]

you can also make them look cool

[terse dirge]

hallo

[buoyant pike]

yea but then i gotta flash them to a usb and allat

chud like me doesnt wanna do that

[flint copper]

Yes as I recall you said the Internet is where the experts gather

[buoyant pike]

thinking ill try like 3-5 distros before i decide

[flint copper]

It is also important to diversify

[buoyant pike]

ill look into as many as i can tho

[terse dirge]

try out void linux

[proper dragon]

verily; with respect to distro hopping, I would suggest buying a pair of pink and white striped thigh socks too to wear while you read documentation

[flint copper]

Debian or Ubuntu if you don't want to fix shit every week

[terse dirge]

it's faster than arch

[flint copper]

Everything else if you want to show off

This is my expert opinion

[terse dirge]

https://voidlinux.org/

[terse dirge]

void linux is very very stable tbh

[rotund forge]

How many discord kittens do you have?

[terse dirge]

and it's rolling release

[buoyant pike]

hmmm, ill take a look at it

[flint copper]

I have wechat for this purpose

[terse dirge]

all repos are maintained by the same people that maintain void so no aur

[proper dragon]

I dont fix shit every week
(i use arch btw)

[flint copper]

What dat

[terse dirge]

@flint copper this

it's like arch but better

[flint copper]

No screenshots, bad marketing

Won't use

[buoyant pike]

tbh when i dont see screenshots and the website looks basic as hell i trust it more

that sounds so stupid on paper

[terse dirge]

there's a lot of rices on r/unixporn

this is my current hyprland one on my laptop

[iron galleon]

i don't understand why a hacker wouldn't want to be in control of their own environment, what versions they decide to download/install, etc. the just werks mentality just doesn't make any sense being in this field

[terse dirge]

it's insanely customizable like arch but without dependency hell

[proper dragon]

you just know the maintainer jannies are neck deep in the issues and dont have time to beautify the webpage

[gloomy patio]

you've been playing comp hyprland for 1300 Hrs

[terse dirge]

real tbh

[flint copper]

Noce

[terse dirge]

yes on my gaming arch rig

[proper dragon]

i like the black hole pixelart

[buoyant pike]

haha yea maybe thats why, subconsciously

kinda gives a no bs vibe

[terse dirge]

yeah you can get animated fastfetch art with anifetch

https://github.com/Notenlish/anifetch

[austere sinew]

Good morning!

[gloomy patio]

the only good OS is one that leaves you tf alone

[proper dragon]

and spies on you too right

[supple plume]

Goon moaning

[short canyon]

not worth it tbh, a blatant copyright breach like this? he'll probably have to rework all this from the ground pretty soon

[austere sinew]

Man what the hell

[iron galleon]

i used to use COSMIC bc i couldn't be asked to endlessly customize my workspace

now i use macOS and windows 10

[flint copper]

It's a lesson for both of you

And it helps put your name out there

[proper dragon]

system76 🤢

[terse dirge]

the bar is custom quickshell

[gloomy patio]

I know of people that bricked their company laptops trying to get rid of their edr for privacy reasons, so no xD

[terse dirge]

their laptops are nice, I don't like pop tho

[iron galleon]

please elaborate

[worthy cargo]

My terminal. Simple.

[short canyon]

dude I am a professh pentester with a stable job and income, I don't want to learn how to make a lighter in jail, but thank you for the offer

[terse dirge]

can't do shit on pop

[iron galleon]

pop!_os is ass, let's make that clear

but system76 is a great company

[flint copper]

But do you possess street smarts?

[cloud osprey]

templeOS or bust

[flint copper]

You can't buy that type of education

It will come in handy on July 19th 2033

[proper dragon]

based knower

[short canyon]

John Titor is back

[proper dragon]

where did he go

[gloomy patio]

titor mentioned let's goo

[flint copper]

[proper dragon]

I used popos for a graduate class awhile ago and I still feel the hate that OS engendered in me

[iron galleon]

it's just ass in the context of this field tbh

[proper dragon]

There are a bunch of great linux distros, and the people that make it so painful are selling hardware?

nah

[iron galleon]

what was your problem with it

[proper dragon]

Fair, but I used it for ML work, and the issues were with Nvidia drivers

I'm sure these issues are fixed now

but it was a PITA

[iron galleon]

i think that's just a thing having to do with linux in general

[west venture]

I use pop it's alright

[iron galleon]

i mean i would prefer to not use GNOME/COSMIC as well, just preferences

[proper dragon]

I think pop was uniquely bad. I don't remember it too well as this was in 2022, but it was more painful than base Ubuntu or Arch (and they were painful but manageable)

[iron galleon]

it was premature back then

[supple plume]

[rotund forge]

Lmao something about that screen makes me laugh it seems so peaceful but I have a feeling you're just listening to loud ass djent like rings of Saturn sayin'

"This is okay."

https://youtu.be/WSFS47e-SeY?si=kFnOGFBGXiY_mKwq

[proper dragon]

I'm not sure if you recall but their claim to fame was great nvidia driver support when people started running early models on their machines. To cover so much learning ground on that OS only for their upkeep to slip and become a slog felt like a betrayal tbh lmao

[iron galleon]

understandable

im getting faded

[proper dragon]

enjoy

[iron galleon]

thx

[proper dragon]

watch out for the loosh harvesters

[west venture]

I haven't really experienced any Nvidia driver issues

[proper dragon]

well nvidia drivers alone were never the problem, it was the compatibility between CUDA/cuDNN, tensorflow, and nvidia drivers that were bumped out of balance when pop decided to package new drivers with their releases
CUDA specifically was the problematic driver but I used nvidia as a coverall

[wooden thunder]

Lies for breakfast?

[proper dragon]

system76 just tried to streamline a user experience they didnt understand

[rotund forge]

Dude I learned how to make psychoactive whipped cream this stuff is awesome for cocktails

Even kinky stuff too

[iron galleon]

DM me

isnt it crazy how we like

breathe automatically

[alpine pulsar]

gumo

[flint copper]

omug

[gray wraith]

We got a chad over there

[wooden thunder]

Found him

https://ibb.co/gZntFjmP

[placid gulch]

anyone can help me in that

i banned on htb

and i snd many emails but no response

[tough oyster]

Dude

It hasnt even been 24 hours yet since ya account was banned

But contact [e-mail]

[placid gulch]

yeah i know but why that

that my right to know i snd everything he want

still not respsonse

[tough oyster]

Ill check it out soon but you will need to be patient

[placid gulch]

ok

[fringe abyss]

yoo

[gilded fern]

hahahah

[crimson smelt]

🍆

[clever shuttle]

Yo :3

[dusky jacinth]

Oy :3

[rancid swallow]

[clever shuttle]

Oy

[clever shuttle]

hello Karmanya

[rancid swallow]

[supple plume]

Hi chat

[green kite]

hello

[supple plume]

Wsppppp

Everyday spanking

🍑

[green kite]

no no

I dont do such thing

[rancid swallow]

[supple plume]

REBANNED 🤣

[green kite]

man I am hungry

waiting for wife to get home

[supple plume]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/QlHtDIJDTWs

[supple plume]

@jagged storm

[rancid swallow]

[jagged storm]

[zealous charm]

[frail turtle]

friendly reminder that installing custom firmware on roms for anything is okay

it's just electrons

[hollow portal]

@exotic pendant guess what day it is

[exotic pendant]

Thursday

Everyone checking their calendars

Got good stuff happening on Tuesday

Patch Tuesday

[supple plume]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/3Qhl9p9tliU

[supple plume]

@gaunt gale

Is that you?

[tough oyster]

Yea user saw god already

[south sorrel]

Is there a chance that there will be season 10 specific merch in the swagshop?

[zealous charm]

Monday is just 3 days away

8 business hours away

[undone fossil]

obfuscated ITS FRIDAY

"Enjoy the next 24 hours"

(obfuscated have a nice day)

[exotic pendant]

Only a few sleeps away from Monday

[exotic pendant]

Getting a little pizza on Sunday

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-saturday-raturday-saturday-rats-dustbins-gif-7962403280395084178

[lavish sage]

ra-turd-ay

[exotic pendant]

Stop spreading hanta virus

[mild finch]

I Did not get the season reward, whats wrong??

[fleet rock]

Hey, About the giveaway prize, is there a specific period before the prize is delivered, or is something i need to do on my end to get it?

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/лайк-gif-5578648585388294817

[supple plume]

Keep sending em to the lord

[supple plume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-horrors-persist-the-horrors-persist-but-so-do-i-sunset-pink-depressed-gif-789389344890958049

[jagged storm]

Being in a homeless shelter during a pandemic is not ideal lol

[supple plume]

Fun thing I once owned a car like this in Mexico

[zealous charm]

Friday 🥳

[rancid swallow]

[lavish sage]

it happened huh

[zealous charm]

any hacking on this fine day?

[wooden thunder]

sometimes

[lavish sage]

trying to get memory injection working on android for persistence

[azure remnant]

yo, is there anyway to let smbserver.py require authentication but actually accept any given credentials ?

[wooden thunder]

You can't be trying to do that on the latest version perchance ?

[lavish sage]

wut latest version

[wooden thunder]

Of android

[lavish sage]

android 14

[azure remnant]

Fire 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[lavish sage]

did they change something in 16?

[azure remnant]

Theres a repo that makes payloads that work for android 16

Meterpreter payload

[zealous charm]

The real question is do you pronouce is "met-terpreter" or "meeter-preeter" different certificate providers pronouce it differently

[azure remnant]

Is it possible to unpack an apk, include code and modify main function, repack, and sign and get a working apk ?

[lavish sage]

yes

i've done that to unlock levels in games

[wooden thunder]

Yessir, basically the mte (prot against heap exp) that was a meme in 14 became actually good in 16

[azure remnant]

Which of do i need to pass cpts

[lavish sage]

i dont think thats going to effect me either

[azure remnant]

Yes we use a meterpreter shell to infinitely feed our pou

[wooden thunder]

Try whatever works in 14 now in 16, it most probably will crash

[azure remnant]

[lavish sage]

that would be more in case of exploiting a UAF/heap stuff

[azure remnant]

Do u have resources for such stuff ?

[lavish sage]

by android 16 a lot of stuff will be different anyway

i mean its not that hard

[azure remnant]

I tried but never got to succesfully build the apk

[wooden thunder]

Yea true it's primarily heap but like you aren't doing simple data mod either right ?

[lavish sage]

just use jadx/apktool to get it to java source code, change something like unlockLevels=true, apktool build, apksigner and it should be done

maybe a couple of other in between steps but not that hard

[azure remnant]

Yeah ig

But something like including a reverse shell is beyond editing code though

[wooden thunder]

My good sir, for 90% of apps now this is not the case and you need to dance with the andoid packer thing

one moment lemme get the name

[azure remnant]

Chatgpt what is the...

Jk

[lavish sage]

are you talking about the split configs?

you can just sign them the same way and install the app

[wooden thunder]

Progaurd

[lavish sage]

oh yeah but thats just obfuscation

[crude moss]

Anyone who wants to work in creating CTF type challenges?

[lavish sage]

just need to spend a lot more time at it

[wooden thunder]

ye, it's a nightmare

[lavish sage]

tbf i just give up if it gets that complex

for the old games that i played, it was pretty simple

no native libraries, basic java code

[azure remnant]

Heard that google play requires split apks from now on to publish

[wooden thunder]

I spent like 2 weeks dismanteling some chinese app that uses a chinese obfus. and then I gave up

[wooden thunder]

Native libs are not that hard to tackle either lol

[muted olive]

the latter have no hope

[lavish sage]

how do you modify them

[wooden thunder]

I love it when I find that a lib handels the bulk of the logic

instead of a.a.b

[lavish sage]

i dont want the hassle of patching instructions, maybe its not that hard

[wooden thunder]

Not that hard at all, plus you get to use the lovely ida instead of cursed jadx

[undone fossil]

wait whats the context here

[wooden thunder]

Finding the logic of an android app inside a lib and attacking that is easier than finding the app obfuscated with progaurd and needing to attack that

[lavish sage]

yeah idk maybe it is easier, i just havnt gone that deep

[undone fossil]

truthnuke

obfuscated java is hell

[lavish sage]

apps can have native libraries that are called via jni

[wooden thunder]

Have any of you tried that jadx competitor chinese thingy ? I forgot the name one sec

[lavish sage]

im not a masochist fyi

[undone fossil]

don't think so most of my java related rev has been jadx/recaf

[wooden thunder]

Found it

GJoy Dex Analyzer

It's main feature is it actually attempts to somewhat trace the obf. code a bit better than jadx

Also it doesn't crash when some other packers do nasty anti debugging stuff

[fickle kernel]

Chat, I got a job for anyone as soc t1 (I dont want to more interviews)

[lavish sage]

bro just handing out jobs, in this economy??

[fickle kernel]

Best I can do as payment is a milkshake per month

[wooden thunder]

I might know somone intrested but not from europe

[fickle kernel]

If it means I dont have to interview 30 ppl, then yes

[wooden thunder]

Is that ok with them ?

[fickle kernel]

No

We need work permit in Eu

And tbfr, anyone from htb would be probably a better candidate than anyone I’ve interviewed so far

[turbid goblet]

Pick me

[muted olive]

whats your requirements?
(I know some people who might be interested)

[wooden thunder]

I just contacted them and they have prohacker rank on htb and get a schengen visa in october

[fickle kernel]

Fully entry level, but I’d love candidates who at least heard about what’s IT Security, and don’t look like I’m speaking advanced tech when I ask what’s an IOC

[turbid goblet]

Whats an ioc

[muted olive]

thanks, ill pass that along

[turbid goblet]

jk lol

[muted olive]

idiocy of colleagues

[turbid goblet]

Oh tru i know that ioc very well too

[wooden thunder]

Actually it's a residence permit that allows them to work as well (cause they are taking msc in october)

[muted olive]

usually its not great to tell companies that a candidate is planning to do a masters lol

[fickle kernel]

If anyone is interested send me a dm or ping me here, it’s unfortunately full on-site position, which I can’t control, can’t guarantee it’s applicable for all people

[wooden thunder]

No need to lie lol cuz the company will need to approve the visa as well

[lavish sage]

its kinda crazy that bum ass people can even get the jobs

how do these mfs get hired

[muted olive]

it would be ironic if ten people from here applied and youd have to filter them out through an interview

[turbid goblet]

Oh ur not kidding? Are u NA east coast

[muted olive]

He just said europe

lol

[fickle kernel]

I saw some cvs with htb/thm mentioned, so some could lurk here

[turbid goblet]

O

[wooden thunder]

Germany right ?

[fickle kernel]

But those interviews are in the upcoming 2 weeks

[hollow portal]

You had one job 🙁

[fickle kernel]

Its EU

[muted olive]

I know some in here who are competent in security and in desperate need of a job

an in EU iirc

so I thought id forward it along to them

[wooden thunder]

Good luck with the employee search

[quasi ridge]

it involves unsavory acts behind dumpsters

[fickle kernel]

But I cant advertise jobs here, so I’ll stop

[muted olive]

https://tenor.com/bGRh4.gif

[zealous charm]

j*b

Not the j-word

[frosty thistle]

j o B

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231

[zealous charm]

hack Indeed and they will pay you

[jagged storm]

They can't even pay their employees - they had like 1500 layoffs recently

[muted olive]

waiting for the day when companies start reverse layoffs

hiring humans because apicostsmaxxing

[cosmic island]

i have a question for yall

when did you guys start hacking/cybersec

[wooden thunder]

Yesterday

[cosmic island]

like at what age?

[turbid goblet]

out the womb

[zealous charm]

22

[frosty thistle]

26 for IT 29 for cyber

[cosmic island]

oh cool

[cosmic island]

oh cool

[frosty thistle]

wdym huh he just answered u

[cosmic island]

typo mb

[turbid goblet]

lmao

[zealous charm]

[cosmic island]

am i uhh

a lil bit too "early"?

[frosty thistle]

the earliest ive heard was 10

[turbid goblet]

incoming

[frosty thistle]

so unless youre 10

[cosmic island]

10??

[frosty thistle]

no

[cosmic island]

damnn

10

i feel late now

[frosty thistle]

lmfao

i just said i started at 29

how tf r u late

[zealous charm]

i think the youngest OSCP is 14?

[frosty thistle]

probably ya

[turbid goblet]

is there any way i can go back in age

[frosty thistle]

the person at 10 was writing in assembly to hack pokemon

[cosmic island]

im 14

[turbid goblet]

o7

[zealous charm]

time for OSCP then

[frosty thistle]

lmao

[cosmic island]

i wanna be a junior penetration tester

[minor edge]

i ddosed my school website and used to run copy paste scripts on kali when i was in middle school - then i stopped and got back at the age of 24 after finishing my Degree and military service , grinding my way to find a job

[frosty thistle]

i didnt even know what a pentester was at 14

do cpts track here

[cosmic island]

j*b

[turbid goblet]

are u a speed or xqc viewer

[cosmic island]

niether

[rancid swallow]

[frosty thistle]

hi karm

[rancid swallow]

hii

[minor edge]

Cpts is a great start but i heard exam is way too advanced , im currently doing ejpt then gonna do cpts after grasping the basics

[frosty thistle]

okiiii imo i would just skip baby pentesting certs

[turbid goblet]

i got ejpt

it was a waste of time

[minor edge]

but im baby

[cosmic island]

i wanna do the cjca certificate

[turbid goblet]

can confirm

[rancid swallow]

lol

[zealous charm]

I also did ejpt and agree it was a waste

[frosty thistle]

pentesting as a default is hard

[rancid swallow]

I ain't got ejpt
and ik its a waste of time

[frosty thistle]

so an easy cert is contrary

[turbid goblet]

no one told me when i was going for it 🙁

[minor edge]

i tried cpts at first but couldnt get used to learning by reading ( at first , now its alot better )

[zealous charm]

eLearn was kinda cool a few years ago but have faded into irrelevancy

[rancid swallow]

i got told fortunately and i went for Alt Sec's CRTP

[turbid goblet]

is that more of a waste of time lol

[cosmic island]

guys what does having a certificate do, like ive heard people say i have this and that but i dont really know what they do?

are they used in j*bs?

[rancid swallow]

nah its a lot more better tbh , and i have been seeing it getting mentioned in many job posts too now

[frosty thistle]

oscp got me the interview at the place i work now and now i hack da flying things

[turbid goblet]

pigeons?

i knew they were government bro

[frosty thistle]

but htb machines got me the job

[rancid swallow]

[jagged storm]

birds?

[cosmic island]

that deserves a screenshot

[frosty thistle]

yes birdssas

[rancid swallow]

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[frosty thistle]

[zealous charm]

yapping on discord got me interviews for my first two pentest jobs

[frosty thistle]

same c:

my boss is in here sometimes

40 yr old femboy

[long forge]

😂

[rancid swallow]

@ZumisBoss

[frosty thistle]

he got mad skillz

[rancid swallow]

He'll hack your Discord now and send msgs containing good things about himself

[frosty thistle]

lmfao he likes the teasing

[rancid swallow]

[frosty thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lemon-sonic-exe-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-x-shadow-gif-9684942498358498995

[ornate kiln]

hi

[frosty thistle]

hi stuz

[ornate kiln]

hi

[frosty thistle]

hi

[zealous charm]

hi

[ornate kiln]

hello

[frosty thistle]

bro KNOWS how to greet

this mf is a greeting machine

[ornate kiln]

lol

[frosty thistle]

mf went to college for it

[ornate kiln]

lmao

[fickle kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-joy-lizard-hi-there-well-hello-there-gif-15622233555234689915

[ornate kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hiiii-oh-hi-hi-hello-lizard-gif-5877185002260097302

[frosty thistle]

hiii frog

[long forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wawa-emdeb--k01KR3SBX3TVV4B99ZJTNTMBKFM

[frosty thistle]

heard u were hiring
but its in EU :c
also entry level

[fickle kernel]

Yeah

I just dont wanna do 30 interviews, wanna get it done asap

[frosty thistle]

so real we interviewed an NSA red teamer who couldnt name a single nmap switch

[fickle kernel]

-T0 goes brrr

[frosty thistle]

lmfaooaoaoaooa

[zealous charm]

This is also my experience with interviewing NSA folks

[rancid swallow]

[fickle kernel]

Tthey write their own port scanners dont hurt them

[frosty thistle]

like wtf do they do all day
just play on cobalt strike

[fickle kernel]

I interviewed a guy one time who had OSCP but we were sus

[zealous charm]

Pretty much, when asked about different things they are like "oh a different team handles that" like bro we're interviewing you not your old team

[fickle kernel]

He didnt even know whats TCP

[frosty thistle]

BbbHajahsbhaha

HOW can u have oscp and not know tcp udp

[supple plume]

Omg

[zealous charm]

We interviewed a guy who listed "OSEE" on his resume, so we asked if he ever did any in-person training and he said no

[frosty thistle]

sure i get not knowing the steps of tls, it gets kinda complicated and case based

[zealous charm]

(OSEE is only in-person)

[frosty thistle]

lmaoooo

[supple plume]

[frosty thistle]

yeah OSEE starts in person then you are given a bunch of material to work through. most people it takes 6mo to 1 yr to attempt the exam

attempt btw
they usually dont pass first try

[fickle kernel]

Hire someone to do it for u

That’s was our take

[frosty thistle]

wowwww

embarrassing manager slop

oh u mean the exam cx

sorry i just woke up

[fickle kernel]

Technically I think there are some unoffical 3rd party trainings

[jagged storm]

I can't imagine the newer OSCP would be passable without knowing TCP, but the old OSCP training material was so awful.

[fickle kernel]

But yeah, offical is only live

[jagged storm]

I went through the old PDF course, before they updated it, and there was less info in there than a single HTB module lol

[frosty thistle]

theoretically yes you could pass oscp without understanding tcp
i just think the odds would be slim

[fickle kernel]

One day I’ll get OSEE if someone gives me 10k dollars to attend

[frosty thistle]

i also want to do osee hehe
but yea work has to pay

[fickle kernel]

First I should just spend effort to do OSEP to get OSCE

But I’m lazy af

Can’t be bothered

[frosty thistle]

osep is easy as hell
i should have just done the phishing and av parts then challenge 7-8 and then the exam

i cleared all of the exam in 6 hrs

[wind loom]

Hello everyone

[fickle kernel]

Ik its easy but its at least a weekend

[frosty thistle]

true

[fickle kernel]

To then write report and bs

[frosty thistle]

i mean i was like fucking off and playing video games during it

[undone fossil]

best i can do is 25k

[fickle kernel]

I’m still traumitized by OSED

[frosty thistle]

osed hard tho

unless thats all u do

[undone fossil]

i mean same goes for any cert right

if you know it its easy

[frosty thistle]

u should do osep froj its easyy

[undone fossil]

i did

[frosty thistle]

oscp is harder

then u know

[wind loom]

Damn bro who the hell is northen reach that guy is so inspirational

[undone fossil]

I'd argue OSEP is harder because OSCP is passable without knowing how to program

[zealous charm]

OSEP is the new entry level cert

[undone fossil]

in terms of ad environments / red teaming OSEP is entry level yeah

we used to use it as an entry level cert to start shadowing on purple teams

[wind loom]

Isn’t that the cert thats like 1000

Did someone say it was easy

[undone fossil]

difficulty is subjective, i'd say its a difficult first cert but easy in the grand scheme of things

[jagged storm]

vro can read

[wind loom]

😂

[undone fossil]

many variables and its a can of worms discussion

[wind loom]

Rhetorical question btw

[frosty thistle]

i am having fun mixing rf and ip

its been fun ^^

[undone fossil]

nice

[wind loom]

Did u get it first try?

[undone fossil]

yeah

[frosty thistle]

me too

wehehehe

[wind loom]

So does it help

[undone fossil]

ive been messing with C++26 so much lately

[wind loom]

Well all certs in general do they help?

[frosty thistle]

abhh i dont program a lot

[frosty thistle]

yes

[wind loom]

So do I need a degree in cybersecurity or just certs cause im thinking about dropping out

[frosty thistle]

aye yaya this question been asked a million times

it depends TM

[wind loom]

😭 well whats the answer to it

[frosty thistle]

generally i recommend having a bachelors

[wind loom]

What do you mean it depends, I feel like college doesn’t even care much about cybersecurity majors, it feels very niche

Compared to the other degrees

[frosty thistle]

its not for college its for employers

[undone fossil]

Depends on the market, depends on who you wanna be employed by, depends on role, career goals, personal goals and budget etc.

[wind loom]

Okay so why is getting a bachelors worth it how do you have time to do homework and actually get good

[undone fossil]

many many factors

[wind loom]

Cause college is not helping me get good

I can say

[frosty thistle]

college will almost never help u git good

its not for that

[undone fossil]

I was gonna go to university if i couldnt land an infosec job prior

[wind loom]

It’s so hard to balance both at the same time

[wind loom]

So you got a job with no degrees

[frosty thistle]

its possible if u got mad skills/network

[wind loom]

And when I tell my parents that they make fun of cybersecurity

[frosty thistle]

and froj got both i believe

[wind loom]

What if u have no network

Can your skills speak for u

[undone fossil]

portfolio is ur biggest selling point then

[wind loom]

Cause Im not really a talkative guy

[gray wraith]

College ccan help you with internships and networking

A lot

[frosty thistle]

what i did was try to do everything possible to increase my chances

[wind loom]

I dodge alot of those ngl they had hackathons and stuff

But I just

Couldn’t

[gray wraith]

See thats your issue

You dodged the opportunities

[undone fossil]

shameless plug but my blog / github if you're interested in the offensive sec/dev side of things
https://www.legacyy.xyz/
https://github.com/iilegacyyii/

[wind loom]

I know man but if I go I lose time to practice

[undone fossil]

could be useful for ideas

[frosty thistle]

i did bachelors in cybersecurity, i did cve research, wrote tools, blogged, did oscp, did lots of htb boxes

[undone fossil]

but tl;dr have fun and just do something

[gray wraith]

Its not like the world is gonna end if you Miss one practice session or two

[zealous charm]

Yeah, everyone does HTB/THM/CTFs, gotta stand out

[undone fossil]

anything is better than nothing

[gray wraith]

Saved

[wind loom]

Right

But socializing also is hard

If I show up then what else

[frosty thistle]

if froj gonna plug then i will >=]

https://medium.com/@zumiyumi

[wind loom]

They said we had to form teams with people at the hackathon

[frosty thistle]

i write about certs there mostly

and random weird things i do

[wind loom]

Anyways I’m gonna be interviewing some people here just to get an idea of what I need to do

[gray wraith]

Thats what happens when u have a job too, you are introduced to a team and have to get along lol

[wind loom]

Yeah you’re right

[frosty thistle]

i work with a huge team but its all cool af people

[umbral bone]

Does anyone know if COAE role is ready to claim here on discord?

[gray wraith]

Working with antisocial ppl is difficult

Having skills is one thing

But being sociable and likable can work wonders

[wind loom]

How do I become un anti social then

[frosty thistle]

yeah being personable is very very important
idc how skilled u are tbh
if u cant play nice or are rude goodbye

[wind loom]

Talking to people feels unnatural

[frosty thistle]

because it means u r gonna act a fool in front of the customer

[wind loom]

I can play nice and im not rude I just am not good at talking

Thats the issue

[frosty thistle]

not being good at talking is okay c:

[late sleet]

Anything feels unnatural when you do it for the first time or haven’t done it in a long time

[frosty thistle]

im not good at it either

[wind loom]

It feels awkard you know

[wind loom]

Yeah im mostly inside all day so I guess

And im also online school

I isolated myself

[gray wraith]

Socialize

Talk with ppl irl

[wind loom]

So just go outside and talk to random strangers?

[jagged storm]

How old are you?

[wind loom]

19

[gray wraith]

Make friends at uni or school

Irl with similar interests

[wind loom]

It just feels awkard bro

Being alone feels better

[gray wraith]

Yeah it does at first

[dusky aspen]

Wait you're talking here with people though

[wind loom]

Yeah that’s not an issue

[gray wraith]

Im not telling you to befriend like half the school u know

[frosty thistle]

yapping on discord isnt 1 to 1 for irl socializing
but it isnt bad it helps me c:

[wind loom]

But if we met irl like in front of each other

Things would be different

[wind loom]

😂 yeah

[dusky aspen]

Well it is controlled exposure at the very least

[wind loom]

Yeah discord not helping me learn to socialize

[dusky aspen]

Maybe talk out loud while chatting in discord? lol

[frosty thistle]

vc ya

[wind loom]

I can talk to anyone here even on call and im still gonna be anti social

[frosty thistle]

i like vcing with friends

[wind loom]

Vc isn’t working 😭

[frosty thistle]

i mean when u say antisocial
i mean im antisocial i dont like being out more than i have to

[dusky aspen]

@wind loom Does your uni have a cyber team?

[wind loom]

I legit forced myself to talk to this guy at the gym yesterday I just wanted to know if the ab wheel works well on the abs

[wind loom]

A cyber team? Like a club?

I seen a club I think

For that

[dusky aspen]

That is a good start

I just joined the Cyberteam for my uni

Good connections and practical experience particiating in competitions

[wind loom]

Im not sure if they are at my campus though

So that might be difficult

Cause cybersecurity is very niche

[unborn wharf]

Yoo guys what's happening

[dusky aspen]

Mine is all online

[frosty thistle]

i did cyber team at college too it was fun

[wind loom]

But lots of cybersecurity programs at my school

[wind loom]

Oh wow

[frosty thistle]

i lead our blue team competition

even tho i hate blue team stuff

[hollow portal]

Wish mine had it

[frosty thistle]

[wind loom]

Why

[frosty thistle]

its boring aaaaa hell

to me

[wind loom]

Is security engineer or cloud engineering part of blue team?

[frosty thistle]

ya boring

schnooze

[wind loom]

Nuh uh

[frosty thistle]

i schleep

[wind loom]

Building is awesome

[gray wraith]

I started doing blue stuff somr time ago

And its p fun to me ngl

[wind loom]

Imagine if u had the best of both wrlds

Thats my goal

[dusky aspen]

Find a team to join! HTB has teams

[frosty thistle]

ty bc i dont want to do it c:

[hollow portal]

But RE is cool

[split patio]

[frosty thistle]

I RE for pentesting

[wind loom]

Building and breaking

[dusky aspen]

❤️ buffer overflow

[wind loom]

I knew the answer but I wanted to confirm if I was right im still new

Legit learning python and linux kind of new

[wind loom]

So does htb help with networking and stuff?

Or I gotta look at my school for stuff like that

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-26246178

[dusky aspen]

I mean I am sure it doesn't hurt anything, this is a big supportive community

[wind loom]

Oh so both is better is what you are trying to say?

[dusky aspen]

But being on a team is more direct involvement with the same people working in a similar fashion as a workplace team would

[wind loom]

Ohh

Im not even sure what I wanna do yet like im trying to be a security engineer or cloud

But with red teaming skills

[dusky aspen]

That's a good one to nail down first

[wind loom]

What do you mean by that

[dusky aspen]

Having a goal and direction in mind

Do practical things related to those niches to see if they interest you

[wind loom]

Right now im doing python and linux and I like both but idk where to go from here once I master them

Actually tell me your story how did you start cybersecurity/ get to the point you are now

[dusky aspen]

Well I mean I am still a student as well lol, but I do work with many people who are junior/seniors in the industry already

This is just speculation

[wind loom]

Wow

Thats alot of progress

[dusky aspen]

Its something at least, it is all from joining my schools cyberteam

[wind loom]

So is socializing kind of necessary

Socializing and accepting social opportunities might be my issues

[dusky aspen]

Just this kind of stuff right here mostly, chatting online and we meet once a week on Zoom.

But mostly listening to updates from our coach etc. there is not a ton of "required socialization"

[wind loom]

I see maybe I’ll try to find an online one

That wouldn’t be as hard

[wind loom]

Ohh

I guess I gotta put myself more out there then

[dusky aspen]

Yeah during the competitions though communication is very important.

[wind loom]

Who are you guys competing against

[gray wraith]

LOL

[wind loom]

Other teams

?

[gray wraith]

Ill bear the blue team cross for you

[wind loom]

Same

[dusky aspen]

Other colleges. We took 8th in HTB's hack the madness this year. Have won many other national competitions this year/past years.

[gray wraith]

Then you have to know how to communicate even more

What if shit hits the fan and u have to talk about an incident

[wind loom]

😢 nooo

[wind loom]

Wait so hack the box like a global thing)

[lime trout]

i mean, essentially all jobs in cyber require communication

[dusky aspen]

Yep

[wind loom]

Uhh-

[thick forge]

lets go star fox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_OqGHPMvBE

:aaaaaa:

[gray wraith]

Yea

Its important

But mahbe that way its easier to grasp

[wind loom]

I just won’t mess and avoid incidents then?

[gray wraith]

Through a scenario

[wind loom]

Skills speak for me not my mouth

[gray wraith]

Well someone might mess up

And you have to clean up

[wind loom]

Wowww

[wind loom]

Never mind im cooked

[muted olive]

lol dude

incidents happen all the time in cybersecurity

[wind loom]

I didn’t know that, that’s scary

[gray wraith]

Not to mention you could have meetings where you have to talk with a cam on

[wind loom]

If I have to report it thats gonna suck

[gray wraith]

Present something somewhat publicly

In front of ppl

Gotta learn how to do it

[wind loom]

💀

[undone fossil]

depends on your role, there's much more to infosec than just "hehe i hack" and "hehe i defend"

[lime trout]

you still have to work in a team

[wind loom]

So are there roles where speaking isn’t necessary at all

Just get work done

[lime trout]

no

[wind loom]

And thats it

[wind loom]

[lime trout]

you always need to work with others, share your findings

[undone fossil]

yeah realistically the things that get you paid are technical writing and communication. You could be mr 0day himself but if noone understands what you did, its not really useful

[lime trout]

what you do has no value if you cant tell others what youve done

[wind loom]

Dang so there is no such thing as independent work in cybersecurity

[lime trout]

not really

[undone fossil]

there is however the fact you'd be hired usually means you're in a team

[lime trout]

you need to be able to atleast type up a report

[undone fossil]

^^

[lime trout]

and culture fit matters

[wind loom]

💀 oh and we have to write too?

Is it similar to an essay

Because I hate writing

[undone fossil]

Nah

look up exemplary pentest reports online

[lime trout]

the product people pay for a pentest for is the report

not the hacking itself

[undone fossil]

many companies have public redacted samples

[muted olive]

If incidents didn't happen, we wouldnt need people protecting the company all the time, right :)
And if you're responsible for triaging and mitigating those, then yes, you need to report it

[gray wraith]

Well maybe bug bounty lol

[wind loom]

Yeah I know about that but skills should be more important

[lime trout]

and documenting

[lime trout]

What value is the skills if you cant share what you did?

[wind loom]

Damnnn

[muted olive]

But if you cant deliver it in an actionable form, whats the use?

[undone fossil]

Those are skills

[dusky aspen]

*softskills

[wind loom]

Is that gonna pay the bills

💀

[lime trout]

still need reports

[undone fossil]

Technical writing and communication are important skills just as much as technical skills are

[muted olive]

nope

[lime trout]

albeit they'll take reportslop at times

[wind loom]

Right

[undone fossil]

an unfortunate truth i learned the hard way

[wind loom]

So you people giving me this advice I assume you are all extroverted then right?

[muted olive]

There is also no guarantee that the people you're reporting it to have any idea how the technical side of it works

[undone fossil]

Nope I spend 99% of my time indoors lmao

[lime trout]

no lmao