general

[bronze lion]

Mint is great, I was using mint for like 2 yrs as my main OS and just recently switched to fedora not bcz mint had a ny flaws or issues but it's just bcz I wanted a change

[rustic carbon]

maybe run KDE Plasma. it's a bit heavy, but really nice UI. I run XFCE, which looks clunky but is lightning fast given my hardware.

[undone fossil]

chatters im bored, what do i do

[bronze lion]

Mint is highly customizable

I loved how my mint looked

[scenic maple]

still dominating 💪

[stone marsh]

KDE Plasma is probably the nicest looking DE

[jagged storm]

[rustic carbon]

default is Gnome, which is flashy, but i don't like how it limits the way i can access my apps

[scenic maple]

why ofc install arch

[ocean marsh]

cachyOS with some i3

so sexy

i3 is just so sexy

[jagged storm]

Debian, i3 (no gaps)

[sweet yoke]

I don’t mind it being heavy, I’ve got very modern hardware so I’m not limited by it.

[scenic maple]

a well made website as well

[ocean marsh]

yes sir no gaps, no round borders

[ocean marsh]

well documented

[jagged storm]

No wallpaper, either!

[stone marsh]

I need to get a new laptop so that I can run my Arch +i3 set up on it. Right now I just use it in a VM, but with no compositer I am just looking at darkness 24/7

[rustic carbon]

i3 was cool. ran it for a bit. i like xfce though. more freedom. but yeah, you can OCD-max your stuff with i3/tiling, etc.

[bronze lion]

Isn't cachy pretty new?
I see many using it like mickhat and all.
But whts diff Abt it?

[ocean marsh]

idk but it works, if it works I'm using

[scenic maple]

shit this is well made lol

[rustic carbon]

i've heard people also talking about DWM. haven't tried it though. tiling isn't my jam, but maybe that's worth checking out too.

[jagged storm]

DWM is just i3 with extra steps

[ocean marsh]

I like it minimal

[scenic maple]

theres 3 things
1 its based on arch so all arch features apply
2 its riced so you dont have to configure
3 it has some optimizations which you can do in other distros but you dont have to bother cause its already done hence its fast

[rustic carbon]

good to know, thanks

[undone fossil]

nuh uh

[random grove]

I had a sync issue with my Google account on my linux machine so I couldn't complete the identity verification to log in

[bronze lion]

I guess most installed it bcz it's arch then

[scenic maple]

bro i used to use it back in the days but its that u literally have to compile it everytime you make a change
and if you dont make changes even then u will only be saving like 10 mb compared to i3

at max that is

[stone marsh]

Lazy Arch

[sweet yoke]

Why is it better than Debian?

[bronze lion]

Overhyped arch

[ocean marsh]

its not better

[bronze lion]

Overhyped kali

[jagged storm]

It is not

[ocean marsh]

its not worse

its just a distro

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/debian-penguinbyte-arch-linux-winner-gif-15851855656801001960

[ocean marsh]

lmfao

[scenic maple]

nothings better or worse it depends on your usecase

[stone marsh]

You mean parrot?

[bronze lion]

Forgot to include tht too

[stone marsh]

Parrot is great on the cloud, but using it in a VM, is just...too much

[undone fossil]

https://autumn.revolt.chat/attachments/5IW99rBWDKGJpek5oMCw-bq1NDZjyRRApnFp1QeAyf/bug.gif

[scenic maple]

atleast it looks nice thats my only edge over kali

[bronze lion]

How Abt I use u then

😉

[scenic maple]

froj did u see my meme

[bronze lion]

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-orange-cat-slapping-whack-gif-12866600467125809606

[rustic carbon]

i might switch to FreeBSD soon. but i want to learn more about Linux first. got a book on linux sysadmin stuff.

[stone marsh]

Yeah but it gets in your face a little after awhile. It just has too much going on

[lofty marsh]

facts

[sweet yoke]

So Debian with KDE Plasma? I think I’ll go with that.. Going to say goodbye to Mint soon

[undone fossil]

where

[jagged storm]

BSD is amazing, except for hardware compatibility

[bronze lion]

File a divorce then, don't randomly leave her one day

[rustic carbon]

yeah, i've heard, with Free being much better than Open.

[jagged storm]

If bsd had better hardware compatibility, I'd use it

[turbid goblet]

i use kate os bc i mixxed it up with kali os

[rustic carbon]

hey, you guys know about Intel SEAM?

[bronze lion]

W

[young glen]

I use openSUSE

[stone marsh]

OpenSuse Tumbleweed is super underrated tbf

[sweet yoke]

You got any last-minute tips before I make the full change?

[rustic carbon]

nice! i haven't heard of a SUSE user in a minute! 🙂

[stone marsh]

I used to daily drive it in uni before my spinning disk died

[scenic maple]

yo guys wtf happened to linux joruney website

its paid now

[bronze lion]

Never heard of it

[rustic carbon]

backup all your data, then just go for it. it's pretty straightforward. i recommend downloading the offline (DVD) iso so you don't need an internet connection, but either will work. have your wifi password on-hand for that part of the setup.

[stone marsh]

Is this your way of psyoping us to go to your AI learning platform?

[scenic maple]

if it was my website it would be free

😭

[jagged storm]

Always do a live version first, to make sure hardware works

[fringe viper]

anyone use wireshark often?

[rustic carbon]

THIS

[remote bolt]

no, debian with XFCE is faster

[rustic carbon]

sorry, rat is correct. do that please

[fringe viper]

i need to ask a question about wireshark

[jagged storm]

i3 is even faster!

[stone marsh]

Kind of hate it when websites are like "less than 30p a day". Okay great, charge me that way and let me cancel when I am done

[rustic carbon]

@sweet yoke the iso's boot menu when you load it should present a live option i think

you can boot it before you install

[latent oak]

Heya peeps

[fringe viper]

yall heard about omarchy?

[sweet yoke]

Thankyou. I’ll go do it now, I have fibre cable connection so no need wifi.

[bronze lion]

Can u buy me an ice cream now uncle?

[fringe viper]

you use wireshark often

[rustic carbon]

he wants a flashy, modern UI. but yeah, i mentioned xfce too. that's what i run.

[azure remnant]

Bro started to fight for charisma 🗣️ 🗣️

[rustic carbon]

yeah, i was meaning to check out Devuan, but i hear Omarchy is good too.

no systemd

[remote bolt]

idk but i use debian xfce and it works good enough, did a lot of customizations to my preferences, used a lot of shortcuts to access files/apps faster with my keyboard

[latent oak]

lol, did you finish your brussel sprouts?

[jagged storm]

As a rat, I should support xfce, but i3 is just too good

[rustic carbon]

try the live boot first, but yeah. sounds good.

[fringe viper]

yeah i used to run omarchy

[scenic maple]

man what a sad day

[acoustic trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-rocky-project-hail-mary-hello-hi-gif-8584187830436846286

[scenic maple]

that site was genuinely good

[latent oak]

Do I?

[fringe viper]

which one?

[sweet yoke]

Alright will do 👍

[scenic maple]

cold world we live in

[fringe viper]

do you?

[bronze lion]

Ye ye recently I did

[scenic maple]

linux journey one

[remote bolt]

i love xfce, can customize it exactly the way u want, even changing icons

[jagged storm]

i3 is meant to be keyboard only as much as possible

[stone marsh]

tech is cooked, gotta cash out while you can

[azure remnant]

Its 10c now and 31c next thursday

[latent oak]

Not often…

[fringe viper]

havent heardaboutit

[bronze lion]

Tit?

[rustic carbon]

a project i did yesterday. this is my setup, haha

[remote bolt]

i can look into it later, but i know antix core, that's what i used on very old laptop with 1gb ram

[acoustic trellis]

why is tech cooked?

[latent oak]

I got my icecream

[fringe viper]

even so wouldnt it be cool if someone made a web ui to see those packets spatially?

[molten bobcat]

What in the christ am I looking at

[remote bolt]

xD

[latent oak]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-ice-cream-licking-got-some-ice-cream-gif-14562120

[fringe viper]

no nsfw

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-tit-robert-e-fuller-devouring-food-consuming-food-gif-1912732815565717362

[fringe viper]

who said techs cooked

[bronze lion]

The fuck 💀

[bronze lion]

Wy abt meeee?

[jagged storm]

I think i3 is like 5mb of memory? Something absurd. It's tiling, which some people don't like.

[fringe viper]

ascci chad

[rustic carbon]

i think he meant tit as an expletive, haha

Brittish, right?

[fringe viper]

lmaook

[molten bobcat]

Clearly he meant tit as the bird

[stone marsh]

Ai bro, it's cooked the whole industry. In a few years we will all be working construction with our little nerd bodies

[bronze lion]

Yeye

[rustic carbon]

oh, is tit a bird?

[bronze lion]

[molten bobcat]

It is yeh

[fringe viper]

wtf is an expletive

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/morning-birds-good-goodmorning-flowers-gif-27085269

These are tits

[fringe viper]

why can i hear your accent

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-big-eyes-meme-gif-7200239684331082529

[fringe viper]

mf look like a monkey

[bronze lion]

🫪

[latent oak]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-delirious-redjumpsuit-icecream-gif-4309786413738646560

[fringe viper]

monkey from kung foo panda

[bronze lion]

No they look super soft

[scenic maple]

why ;(

[fringe viper]

squishy

[bronze lion]

Kind like a ball from tht pic

[bronze lion]

Ye now we are talking

[fringe viper]

what are we talking about

[acoustic trellis]

so you think all those small companies have the knowledge and funds to implement AI on that scale?

[bronze lion]

Oh.
No ice cream for u buddy

[fringe viper]

they look like theyd be cool tho

[fringe viper]

i mean yaas

[acoustic trellis]

hmm

i dont think so

[bronze lion]

Answer is and should be no to that question

[fringe viper]

i already ate

[latent oak]

I’m bored… and hungry… gotta make something to eat

[fringe viper]

whats your favourite ice cream?

[fringe viper]

shakshuka

[bronze lion]

I did too, twice but I won't give u anymore

[latent oak]

Ooh

[bronze lion]

I like ice cream

[fringe viper]

what kind

[bronze lion]

Irrespective of the flavour

[fringe viper]

poop flavoured?

[latent oak]

That is a delicious idea, but I’m out of tomatoes

[turbid goblet]

ok ima just play bloons td all day

[fringe viper]

what do ya got

[young glen]

I hear you. Getting some food myself right now at the restaurant next to my apartment complex

[fringe viper]

the baloon popping one??

[meager kernel]

hi

[latent oak]

Eggs, bacon, breakfast potatoes…

[turbid goblet]

why would u think that

[molten bobcat]

This morning I'll be fixing my Plex library

Er, afternoon I suppose

[bronze lion]

I usually prefer cookies and cream, tender coconut, spanish delight and red velvet

[latent oak]

I think that is what I’m making, but I’m also lazy

[fringe viper]

are you indian?

[young glen]

Whatever you make I hope it will be a good meal 👍

[acoustic trellis]

i made french fries but dutch ones with the peel still on since im lazy and fond of vitamines, i also added veggies in the form of ketchup and eggs in the form of mayonaise

[bronze lion]

Oh my ducking god, how did u guess that from what flavour of ice cream I like.
U da real boss of OSINT?

[molten bobcat]

I'm on a lame diet

So I just had plain eggs

[bronze lion]

He is not skilled enough for tht sadly

[fringe viper]

mumbai?

[bronze lion]

Nah

[remote bolt]

maybe i'll install it on my old laptop with 1gb ram, got antix core now on that one

[fringe viper]

more south?

[bronze lion]

PROTEINN!!

[bronze lion]

Yep

Kerala

If u have ever heard of it

[molten bobcat]

I have a fruit smoothie at least

[bronze lion]

No ice cream?

[molten bobcat]

I can't have dairy

[bronze lion]

Sad

And sry i forgot abt tht

[molten bobcat]

It's okay

I can have fruit popsicles those are damn near close to ice cream

[fringe viper]

Malayali anno?

[jagged storm]

That's some severe copium

[molten bobcat]

Lmao

[bronze lion]

I guess 😓

[bronze lion]

Haha

[molten bobcat]

I like the outshine fruit bars

[jagged storm]

'we have ice cream at home'

[molten bobcat]

They're p good

They got watermelon, mango, pineapple

[bronze lion]

Btw acc to the rules we have to keep the chat in eng

[fringe viper]

oui

[bronze lion]

Wbu

[fringe viper]

im from karnataka

[bronze lion]

Close by

[forest gulch]

guys where is the sidebar terminal in academy

[molten bobcat]

What is a sidebar terminal

[worthy cargo]

Do you mean pwnbox?

[hardy frigate]

Hey guys

Did anyone finish the Wifi path ?

[ocean marsh]

hi kraton

[remote bolt]

hi

[ocean marsh]

sup vro

[remote bolt]

@ocean marsh ur account is 8days older than mine

@ocean marsh juli 2017

[ocean marsh]

respect your elders boy 😎

[remote bolt]

[ocean marsh]

lmfaoo

[forest gulch]

yes

[eternal mango]

You see it at the bottom of any sections which have an interactive section to them

It's not shown on every section page any more

[supple plume]

I'm defeated

Bounties are hard 🥀

[hoary dawn]

Yall do I need a Mac to reset an iPad that says it’s disabled and needs to be connected to iTunes to reset

[wild parcel]

Yo

[thick forge]

where u are doing bounties

[ocean marsh]

kypanz

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-gif-9259936078829692831

[thick forge]

no nitroo nooo

:aaa:

[supple plume]

In internet

[thick forge]

hacking the internet right now to win the bounty

:hacker:

[thick forge]

try we new frameworks, platforms or tools, sometimes they have a lot of bugs

[meager kernel]

how are you

[thick forge]

then when the company grow is less possible to find new bugs

[ocean marsh]

tired wbu

[meager kernel]

likewise
thinking of doing a machine rn

[thick forge]

is not the same for example "pepeCompany" than "Microsoft" to find bugs

[ocean marsh]

which

[thick forge]

[meager kernel]

some AD one

[ocean marsh]

good taste

[meager kernel]

just booting up my VM

[safe vessel]

Python is necessary for hacking?

[worthy cargo]

It's good to know

most web exploits are written in python

CVE PoC are in python mostly

some bash, some php, some js

but mostly python

[safe vessel]

Networking?

Wat about networking

[worthy cargo]

Definitely. You need to know how data moves if you're gonna be a hacker

Depends on what CS subfields you're going in

[jagged storm]

Somewhere between network+ and CCNA level

[worthy cargo]

GRC doesn't require networking for example

or python

[safe vessel]

What is GRC

[worthy cargo]

Google it

Governance, Risk, and Compliance

[alpine pumice]

what is google

[turbid goblet]

bing it

[alpine pumice]

oh ok

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/mapache-pedro-gif-7206648027763736533

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/google-exists-google-search-it-geekboy-geekboy-cz-gif-25933207

[west venture]

Why are you asking stupid ahh questions?

[ocean marsh]

rat cpts made me crazy

[jagged storm]

the exam?

[ocean marsh]

yes

[jagged storm]

They changed it since I took it, so I don't know how justified you are in being crazy

[austere sigil]

he knows me

[ocean marsh]

its hard

really hard

[jagged storm]

It was hard before lol

[ocean marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-the-rizzler-rizz-face-aj-big-justice-gif-11358477961824563585

[jagged storm]

Did you at least make progress?

[ocean marsh]

yeah yeah

[signal mica]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-fat-monkey-fat-monkey-smile-fat-monkey-smiling-monkey-gif-1768197236560593059

[ocean marsh]

But I'm going for that second attempt

[jagged storm]

How many flags?

[ocean marsh]

I also couldnt invest much time

[ocean marsh]

8 for now 😭

[signal mica]

how many are there

do you need them all?

[ocean marsh]

12

there are 14

I need 12

[jagged storm]

Ah, well I hope they kept flag 9 as hard as it used to be.

Flag 9 was the old gatekeeper

[signal mica]

flag 9 binex?

[sharp shuttle]

flag 9 was anonymous ftp

very hard

now its anonymous sftp

good fuckin luck

[ocean marsh]

for me the worst flag I ever got was the 10th flag on cape

that shit made me insane

[signal mica]

simple rat transfer protocol 🚬

[frigid mountain]

Artemis crew enters lockscreen pin on livestream

[west venture]

I am honestly done with cyber security and the IT field in general lol.. learning all this is just wasted effort, bc AI and shit and you just have to adapt to all the new stuff and tech. It's just bullshit

[frigid mountain]

If you got into IT to stop learning you definitely chose the wrong field. Good luck!

[signal mica]

and we finna do what now? RCE?

[west venture]

Successfully wasted billions of dollars 💵 👏

[ocean marsh]

we finna crawl around the kernel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1042539281341763714/1273889704923893802/attachment.gif

where's the azomax emoji

[rapid swallow]

i feel like i found a new way to bypass ASMI

[quasi ridge]

whatcha talkin bout, just confirms America can still nuke anywhere on Earth 😉

[west venture]

What's the point of learning if you don't get a job 😂

[jagged storm]

go hack your exam, instead of shitposting!

[quaint hollow]

hey chat
i have a problem with play in browser
does anyone know how to solve it?

[signal mica]

mister ding

[frigid mountain]

So your real complaint isn't about having to learn it's about the job market.

[signal mica]

why is your moon eevee named gojo...

[molten bobcat]

That's sun eevee

[west venture]

Yeah send the nuke around the moon and gravity slingshot it back to Earth

[molten bobcat]

Espeon

[signal mica]

right umbreon black is moon?

[quasi ridge]

nobody will see it coming...

[west venture]

Ye

[molten bobcat]

Yes

My ledybas name is Diode

Cuz LEDyba

[quasi ridge]

they'll be like "oh, they're stupid, the Americans are nuking the moon"...and then it'll come right where it needs to

[frigid mountain]

Just got this card with a shirt I ordered.

[west venture]

Except they forgot to add one zero in the math and the nuke lands in New York

[signal mica]

10$

[frigid mountain]

you gotta carry the zero

[quasi ridge]

NY is a shithole though..

sometimes you just need a good nuking to clear out the muck

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-vault-boy-cool-sunglasses-gif-25486020

[west venture]

Why did Artemis II actually send a bunch of scientists around the moon 😂😭

[west venture]

Sounds like what some 8 year olds would want

[molten bobcat]

The first crewed test flight under NASA’s Artemis program is underway. Four Artemis II astronauts are flying aboard NASA’s Orion spacecraft around the Moon and back, as they test how the spacecraft’s systems operate in a deep space environment.

They were testing a space ship.

[silver forge]

Incorrect. The real reason is empire building.

[west venture]

Didn't we already go there and find out there's like... Nothing there?

[silver forge]

The only reason men do anything.

[molten bobcat]

Yeah man humanity has explored all of space and turns out there's nothing there

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-curry-space-capitalism-laughing-hysterically-smirk-gif-21230907

[molten bobcat]

God is dead and so are the stars

[sharp shuttle]

monkey reproduction OR autistic endeavor

thats what its all about

[molten bobcat]

🙄

[iron galleon]

LMAO

[west venture]

Give all that money to some people who can't afford medicine

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ra2-red-alert-2-westwood-done-it-has-only-begun-gif-10529971749593729836

[west venture]

Inside the US at least

[molten bobcat]

Can two problems not exist simultaneously lol

[turbid goblet]

nope one at a time

[molten bobcat]

You shouldn't eat lunch today there's people more in need of food than you

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/it-has-been-an-honor-red-alert-2-red-alert-2-sophia-c%26c-red-alert-2-gif-3642074341145958320

[sharp shuttle]

we just have to cull 90% of the world

its simple

[west venture]

It's more like, "you shouldn't really make a cruise ship out of money and sail on it, there are other things you could do"

[molten bobcat]

I feel like NASA is the least offensive in this order considering there's people with actual money yachts

[west venture]

Specially when you're the fucking government

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nuclear-missile-ready-red-alert-2-nuclear-missile-silo-yuri-revenge-gif-77431568473771817

[west venture]

It's your job

[jagged storm]

NASA's budget is 1/2 of 1% of the budget lol

[molten bobcat]

For real

Their budget is slashed constantly

[west venture]

Like shut down NASA, shut down SpaceX nobody gives a shit about what's out there

[molten bobcat]

Lmao

This is a very dim view

[eternal mango]

In fiscal year 2023, NASA generated over $75.6 billion in total economic output, which is more than three times its budget of $25.4 billion.

Yeah shut it down

No point

Screw science

[jagged storm]

NASA is notorious for being one of the only federal programs that actually has a net positive on economic output

[molten bobcat]

Let's ignore some of humanities great technological marvels

[west venture]

How does it create output? Aren't they just funding the hobbies of a bunch of nerds who like space?

[sharp shuttle]

tshirt sales

[molten bobcat]

Lol

[quasi ridge]

trips to Florida of course

[molten bobcat]

What do you think NASA, as an organization

[eternal mango]

Go find out for yourself

[molten bobcat]

Is

[quasi ridge]

== have to visit Universal Studios, Nickolodeon, and Disneyworld

[molten bobcat]

Like it sounds like you have done zero research at all

[eternal mango]

The records are public

[azure remnant]

Whats up with broken smbclient

[silver forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdf4duQeNM ?

[azure remnant]

Says missing secrets.db or something

Couldnt fix that all day long

[west venture]

Idk I'm not from America

[molten bobcat]

Cool well it's been in humanities history books for a while

[sharp shuttle]

National Aeronautical Shirt Auctioners

[west venture]

How does it help the people?

[eternal mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ra1bmpxpsppNC

[molten bobcat]

Dude

I'm gonna leave the room and sit you down in front of a fuckin 4 hour documentary about the positive economic impact of the moon landing and the space race

[sharp shuttle]

the opposite should be happening, we should help people less and go to space more

[silver forge]

you know, science does things like medicine, and electricity, and other pretty nice stuff

[molten bobcat]

Because you love asking questions that have incredibly long answers

[jagged storm]

We have spent more money in the last few weeks throwing missiles at Iran, than we have spent on NASA for a full year.

[worthy cargo]

Raising cane chicky fingers

[proper dragon]

I wish I had a quant
ya know? A quantitative

[worthy cargo]

Nom nom

[eternal mango]

I think they just want an argument

[ocean marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-9980668056796018353

[west venture]

I know lol

[molten bobcat]

Or they're just uneducated

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/bwm6B.gif

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/j9QQhgD5OzR.gif

[proper dragon]

nasa doesnt impact the global economy

[gentle tulip]

If there is anything Rick and Morty taught me, is that the moon landing was filmed in the basement of the whitehouse

[molten bobcat]

Lol?

Are these people for real?

[eternal mango]

No, they're fake

[molten bobcat]

Did y'all fall asleep in school the whole time or what

[eternal mango]

Just like the moon landing

[molten bobcat]

Ahh

[west venture]

Kind of... Just wanna burn of some emotion

[jagged storm]

The Earth is round, but mars is clearly flat.

[turbid goblet]

nasa research gave us missles

[molten bobcat]

And microwaves

[proper dragon]

lets hear your wisdom I'm sure it's completely infallible

[turbid goblet]

and nukes

[worthy cargo]

The Earth is a cube! Borg are coming!

[iron galleon]

bro i remember when my heartrate became 200 bpm in school and i had to go home

[sharp shuttle]

Stanley Kubrick; Maui, Hawaii

[iron galleon]

i was fuckeedddd

[molten bobcat]

.. the whole world was involved in the space race to the moon..

[gentle tulip]

If the moon landing was real, why havent we been able to go back?

[molten bobcat]

This isn't news..

[west venture]

Also I never said the moon landing was fake

[turbid goblet]

i mean hasnt only like 3 countries successfully gotten to the moon

[silver forge]

there's no anime in the moon, so why go there

[worthy cargo]

yes

[molten bobcat]

Correct it's a big investment

[worthy cargo]

russia, india, and us

[quasi ridge]

The moon landing is about being able to build stable icbms

[molten bobcat]

But the race to be the first was worldwide

[ocean marsh]

No cat girls, no clown girls

[quasi ridge]

it's not about the moon

[gentle tulip]

[molten bobcat]

Neck and neck between the soviet's and us

[quasi ridge]

it's about being able to put spy satellites up and have icbms rain down

[proper dragon]

the space race was about surveillance
just like the AI race
And the labor and materials needed to get us there was a fraction of our miltary industrial supply chain

[sharp shuttle]

I thought it was Russia, China, US

[molten bobcat]

Moron

[turbid goblet]

its now 6

[worthy cargo]

hey @quasi ridge man im worried about you. How are you doing over there in Israel?

[eternal mango]

I know, I was just "being funny"

[gentle tulip]

yet going back is too large for modern times.

[ocean marsh]

And vatican

[gentle tulip]

We were more advanced back then apparetly

[molten bobcat]

We just flew around it tho

Lol

[turbid goblet]

United States, the Soviet Union, China, India, Japan, and Israel

[proper dragon]

you can believe it was about adventure and discovery all you'd like

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/vhsSp5HzxKN.gif

[sharp shuttle]

thats where they the vatican vault is

[molten bobcat]

Like literally in the past few days

[eternal mango]

Was it really about mining cheese?

[gentle tulip]

"I hit the rim of the basket, so clearly im a pro at basketball"

[west venture]

My point was about the actual point of doing these missions, not of they're real or fake.

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-wallace-cheese-wensleydale-gif-9650051521964776585

[proper dragon]

are you speedrunning your way onto a list?

[molten bobcat]

Khaotic please don't tell me you're not aware they were doing a gravity assisted return to earth.

[eternal mango]

List me daddy

[ocean marsh]

Cool pictures

[quasi ridge]

it's quiet, for now...we'll see how long it lasts though

[sharp shuttle]

I like when Khaotic shitposts

[west venture]

Honestly

[gentle tulip]

Impossible, no gravity in space. Next

[molten bobcat]

Ahh there it is

[iron galleon]

They call me Mr Plenty, check the leather on the Bentley

[molten bobcat]

I can't believe I fell for this

[sharp shuttle]

i can

[quasi ridge]

@worthy cargo I like school being back in session, that's for sure...

[proper dragon]

RARE

[gentle tulip]

Me? never...

[west venture]

HUH?

[iron galleon]

🤫

[rose ivy]

Help pls

Help me

[turbid goblet]

help me

help

[rose ivy]

For real ols

[worthy cargo]

space is curved by mass, that's gravity. It's out there in space

[rose ivy]

Pls

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/bnaod.gif

[iron galleon]

is there a mog emoji

[turbid goblet]

Help!

[eternal mango]

With what @rose ivy

[proper dragon]

its right next to the brainrot emoji

[west venture]

See there's no real point of us knowing this.... When you think about it 😂

[molten bobcat]

What's the point of living anyway

The point of reaching higher

[gentle tulip]

Propaganda machine much be fueled

[west venture]

Just random

[sharp shuttle]

Monkey Reproduction OR Autistic Endeavor

[gentle tulip]

Only the greatest story tellers write history

[ocean marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/camus-albert-camus-my-beloved-gif-26635172

[gentle tulip]

i do wanna try this though https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o0WhiyV5Xn4

[proper dragon]

i live to be a debtslave and complain on the internet whilst I avoid debtors and grass

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-teamfortress-soldier-question-engineer-gif-20340120

[west venture]

We were a bunch of stuff in a soup a long time ago, and the conditions were just right and abiogenesis happened, and now we're here... No "point" at all really

We're here for the same reason a rock is here

[silver forge]

I'd love to taste that soup

[molten bobcat]

I feel this is a dull, uninspired answer

[quasi ridge]

to bash someone's brains in?

[proper dragon]

at least in soup nobody tells you to touch grass or calls you a nazi

[eternal mango]

I guess Camilk just wanted to be seen.. they've gone silent

[molten bobcat]

That happen often to you buddy?

[jagged storm]

They usually DM someone they see, and ask for the illegal request lol

[proper dragon]

did i hurt your feel feels

[west venture]

Wym? That's how the first cell came into existence

[proper dragon]

i'll put my "i have the same opinion as you" gloves on okay

[jagged storm]

DMs enabled on HTB discord. Bold.

[molten bobcat]

You're incredibly painful to talk to

[sharp shuttle]

i like talking to both of you

[proper dragon]

its all in your imagination

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/kSwffx4xp4i.gif

[west venture]

Idek the point inwikt is trying to make

[molten bobcat]

Guy at the party who won't stop making the conversation about him or what's going on with his life

[gentle tulip]

i needa nap

Any of yous game?

[molten bobcat]

Sure, but why)

[proper dragon]

you take yourself very seriously now

[silver forge]

globally enabled, everyone can contact me FeelsGoodMan

[molten bobcat]

My pfp is a pupa

[west venture]

No reason. Why do rocks exist? No reason.

[proper dragon]

is that from rick and morty? I hear you have to have a very high IQ to understand that show

[molten bobcat]

It's not

[proper dragon]

similar artstyle

[molten bobcat]

Correct

Solar Opposites

[silver forge]

he wouldn't understand lol

[sharp shuttle]

Molting each stage of our lives 'til cold and stiff
Now thriving terrasites, dramatic shift
Now as a parasite humanity persists```

[jagged storm]

because nothing rocks harder than a rock

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/solar-opposites-yumyulack-pacing-pacing-the-floor-solar-opposites-season1-gif-27481365

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/carl-lol-haha-hahaha-nice-gif-5016220

[proper dragon]

very jungian

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-meeseeks-rick-and-morty-gif-18325280

[molten bobcat]

Guy who brings up philosophers at parties cuz he thinks it equates to a personality

[iron galleon]

Baby, I've been getting paid
I've been getting waved
Tell me all your secrets, I'ma take 'em to the grave
I ain't gonna lie, I don't wanna wait
We can book a flight out later today
Where'd you wanna go? Where'd you wanna stay?

[sharp shuttle]

Rick and Morty is that 100-110 IQ space, worst iq to have by far

[west venture]

Most people are scared to accept the fact that we don't have a real point, meaning, of purpose. Which is exactly one or the biggest reasons for humanity to invent gods. They gave themselves purpose.

[proper dragon]

you developed a whole myth about me in your mind lol
whatever helps you feel better

[molten bobcat]

I'm just thinking of jokes

It's.. not that deep bro

[ocean marsh]

I love watching grown ass man arguing on discord

Such a cool concept

[iron galleon]

lmfao

[west venture]

I am 19 bro

[sharp shuttle]

dont interupt the stage production

[proper dragon]

maybe this is what life is all about

[molten bobcat]

Finding ones purpose is part of life, I feel

[ocean marsh]

So am I

[frigid mountain]

so you're not a grown man?

laughs in selective service

[jagged storm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-stroke-1

[worthy cargo]

Where is it writ that life has to have purpose? Perhaps the search for purpose is the sole source of misery in man.

[sharp shuttle]

the control books

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/tacos-lime-taco-mexican-food-authentic-tacos-gif-26547299

[iron galleon]

Stopp

I'm hungy

[west venture]

Yeah but you gotta also sort of accept that there's no objective point in life. If you find something that genuinely interests YOU and you want to make that your purpose, then there's no reason not to.

[eternal mango]

..then finding one and making sure everyone else agrees.. what a strat

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/drool-spit-homer-the-simpsons-gif-3974820

[quasi ridge]

yea tacos

[austere sigil]

Woah it's CSI

nothing like solving a murder in 45 minutes 🤣

[molten bobcat]

Eh, I disagree

I feel that everyone can be matched to a purpose

[sharp shuttle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/horatio-caine-yeah

[frigid mountain]

that goth girl though whatever her name is 🖤

[proper dragon]

if there is no objective point in life why does every human procreate or fight the urge to procreate

[worthy cargo]

The point is life is to love and be loved

🙂

[austere sigil]

ya

[west venture]

Yeah exactly. A subjective purpose

[molten bobcat]

Sure

[austere sigil]

[molten bobcat]

But the objective is to be happy

[sharp shuttle]

mmm yes i do think you would be a good chase sapphire rewards member

[west venture]

Because the ones who didn't procreate, died

[molten bobcat]

But not just happy.. fulfilled

Cuz y'know it ain't enough to just

Be content

[jagged storm]

The ones who procreate also died

[molten bobcat]

To be challenged

[worthy cargo]

not happy or fulfilled. But content.

[molten bobcat]

Is another thing entirely

[worthy cargo]

I seek to be content in life

[west venture]

They died later on

So they lived long enough

[ocean marsh]

The point of life is to troll and spread misinformation

[west venture]

To reproduce

[ocean marsh]

Larp

[molten bobcat]

Froj is typing lmao

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zone-of-zone-out-cat-cat-zoned-out-zoned-out-cat-gif-4284444198360174529

[undone fossil]

Disagree

I'm serious

[molten bobcat]

Froj exists to create shareholder value

[undone fossil]

No I think chasing a fleeting emotion is a foolish way to suffer

[molten bobcat]

But also my comment afterwards was

Counter to my own point

I said it's not enough to simply just be content

Fulfillment comes from challenge

[sharp shuttle]

What if I aspire to be a lolcow for money

[west venture]

If you think even deeply, we're all just a bunch of atoms interacting with each other...

[pseudo hound]

^

[proper dragon]

the purpose of life
to struggle, challenge, and rise to struggle again

[worthy cargo]

"Desire is the beginning of illusion."

[undone fossil]

I have a tattoo that says "Desire is a foolish way to suffer"

For this exact thing

[sharp shuttle]

suffering builds character

😄

[west venture]

Well if you like that, go ahead

[austere sigil]

painfully real

[undone fossil]

SUFFERING BUILDS CHARACTER

[ocean marsh]

Life is absurd guys☝️ 🤓

[pseudo hound]

The purpose of existence is understanding where we come from and the universe :^)

[frigid mountain]

From a facebook group called "No Context Atomic Comics"

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/life-is-pain-mask-pain-black-mask-gif-15157421

[molten bobcat]

OKAY BUT WHATS THE UPPER CEILING FOR CHARACTER

[rose onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/good-emperor-star-wars-gif-13992246

[proper dragon]

meat computers using centuries of innovation to call eachother dumb at a greater distance than our ancestors could, instantaneously

[turbid goblet]

there is but one truly philosophical question

[sharp shuttle]

in modernity, "the power was in you all along" (fucking horrible writing)

[worthy cargo]

Suffering is an experience for the 'self'. If there is no self, which many have said that the self is an illusion, then there is no one there to experience anything. -- UG Krishnamurti

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-lol-gif-7315808

[ocean marsh]

To scroll or to not scroll

[proper dragon]

this guy gets it

[pseudo hound]

Desire is built on fantasy

[sharp shuttle]

what if you didnt have breakfast this morning?

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/wave-gotik-treffen-wgt-gothic-people-gothic-festival-gothic-girl-gif-19024719

[eternal mango]

What's breakfast?

[molten bobcat]

I just enjoy seeing other people happy

[sharp shuttle]

but i did have breakfast this morning

[molten bobcat]

Life be okay

[proper dragon]

beep
whats that

[undone fossil]

I'd blow my shit smoov off

[rancid totem]

hey

[undone fossil]

simple

[pseudo hound]

I love Nutella spread on a slice of bread with a cup of coffee ☕ in the morning

[sharp shuttle]

mmmm yes im european, toast and beans for breakfast innit

mmmmm

[undone fossil]

as you would have created a minor inconvenience

[eternal mango]

Ye bruv

[undone fossil]

and as a pasty internet white boi i cannot handle this

[rancid totem]

that's delicious

yummy

[molten bobcat]

Me

[austere sigil]

ayo sir not all of us are British

[pseudo hound]

Yess

[west venture]

Guys the reason we feel like the purpose of life is to, "work hard" or, "be curious", is because the one's who randomly had brains that felt this way, just didn't die. The ones who didn't, died out, (aka changed into other forms). So we're here, just because we're here. Again, just no purpose lol.

[molten bobcat]

This sucks lol

[rapid badger]

British are only european when it suits them

[undone fossil]

The purpose argument is always interesting

[molten bobcat]

Yeah but they're choosing the bleak pessimism route and I don't know why

[pseudo hound]

People work hard because others forced them to do so

[west venture]

Who

[molten bobcat]

That's not true

[eternal mango]

Nobody has said 42 yet.. I'm shocked

[west venture]

Nope

[molten bobcat]

People work hard because they're passionate about something often

[undone fossil]

because there's a counterpoint in that the whole thing is brought up purely because the human mind will make up answers

[austere sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/42-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-answer-life-universe-gif-11206785

[silver forge]

69

[iron galleon]

'Cause I'm all about the money, money
Baby, I can be your sugar daddy, sugar daddy, yeah

[sharp shuttle]

42-0-69

[eternal mango]

Thank you, much better

[west venture]

But what is passion?

[molten bobcat]

Hard to have an objective opinion about the human condition when you're biased towards yourself lol

[worthy cargo]

Thanks for all the fish!

[pseudo hound]

I highlight the difference between working and creating 🤓

[austere sigil]

Did you know that 42 actually has a meaning? It's not some random number

[sharp shuttle]

i work so my daughter can go to college and be in crippling debt for her entire life

❤️

[pseudo hound]

Classic

[molten bobcat]

Unless I guess you're just nihilistic and love professing the end of all things

Then go off king

[worthy cargo]

"Fourty-two and six, just ahead of me"

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lebowski-believe-believe-in-nothing-nothing-gif-17636587030086837445

[worthy cargo]

TOOL

[proper dragon]

im doing my part

[sharp shuttle]

are you a dude?

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-end-near-bell-gif-13990251

[sharp shuttle]

you get baptized in a bowling alley?

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-walter-sobchak-gif-25176228

[worthy cargo]

STFU Donny

[pseudo hound]

I'm reverse of a nihilist I think everything makes sense and everything connects / everything matters

[worthy cargo]

You're out of your element

[molten bobcat]

Optimist

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/outofyourelement-donny-biglebowski-gif-22891733

[jagged storm]

Everything? Explain the ending of LOST.

[sharp shuttle]

i kinda am too, but it appears as negativity to people who dont understand its a perfect system

[molten bobcat]

Is what the reverse is

[west venture]

I feel like nihilism is the natural conclusion to arrive at, if you look at the world from a purely materialistic perspective.

[sharp shuttle]

the beauty in its corruption

[worthy cargo]

Karl Hungus was a Nihilist

[molten bobcat]

Well sure if you ignore all magic and whimsy and imagination and thought things get pretty awful fast

[proper dragon]

Optimism is not the opposite of nihilism it's the opposite of pessimism

[sharp shuttle]

okay but cloud

dark souls is beautiful

[pseudo hound]

^

[west venture]

Yeah well magic.. Is not real

[worthy cargo]

Opposite of Nihilism is probably Faith

[molten bobcat]

It's hyperbole

Clearly

[pseudo hound]

Magic is anything that you don't understand

[past acorn]

hello

[sharp shuttle]

This discord is like the argument halls of the medieval

[molten bobcat]

I'm just exaggerating to make a point

[austere sigil]

being overly positive is considered negative

[eternal mango]

Hey at least it's not yet reduced to name calling

But there's time left in the day

[sharp shuttle]

its beautiful g0b

[worthy cargo]

There are three kinds of magic.

1. Real magic, which obviously doesn't exist. (Conjuring things out of thin air)
2. Fake magic, which isn't magic but very much real. (magicians, illusionists, etc.)
3. Third kind of magic is literary, poetic. (This night is magical.)

Just to put that out there. 🙂

[molten bobcat]

What I meant is that humanity would be down in the dirt still if we never reached towards the stars and strived for something better. You're denouncing the very thing you benefit from

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-gif-13627858

[west venture]

I just don't wanna cheat myself by looking at the world from any other lense than purely materialistic

[austere sigil]

and what about the one you talk to a dude that is literally floating orb of eyes?

[eternal mango]

High fantasy

[worthy cargo]

You gotta stop tripping on the happy substances! 😄

[austere sigil]

roger that

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/beholder-monster-dnd-dungeons-and-dragons-gif-14709978

[molten bobcat]

Someone in the medieval times would think me talking to someone instantly around the world is magic and would have me burned alive lol.

So yknow

[west venture]

This might sound bizarre to you, but genuinely speaking. Why's that bad? Why MUST humanity (or this specific arregnment of atoms to build the human) prevail?

[molten bobcat]

Broaden thy horizons

[quasi ridge]

roll death save

[sharp shuttle]

i think you would get burned for other reasons much faster

[pseudo hound]

Imagine you showvAI to a guy in the 80s he'd think you're a magician

[molten bobcat]

So your conclusion of our evolution so far, down to the feeling in your fingertips you believe all of us should die in meaningless void?

Cuz what's the point of being alive then

[austere sigil]

nah, he'd think Skynet took over

[jagged storm]

Well, all models of the universe show that to be the result anyway...

[west venture]

All of us will die in a meaningless void cloud. All you can do is delay it.

[pseudo hound]

The meaning of evolution is to learn and transmit to new generations all in order to understand the universe

[molten bobcat]

I disagree

[west venture]

Like I said. No point

[molten bobcat]

I don't agree

[jagged storm]

You believe we're going to solve the heat death of the universe?

[molten bobcat]

My mark will be left in this world long after I'm gone

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-2-arnold-schwarzenegger-judgment-day-skynet-gif-7405932669297095694

[molten bobcat]

And the flame of my passion will be carried on in those who come after, ad infinitum

So no, I'm not too concerned.

[ocean marsh]

https://klipy.com/gifs/patrick-drool

[sharp shuttle]

who hear likes bananas?

[ocean marsh]

I love bananas

With some granola

Hmmmm

[sharp shuttle]

i have lots of bananas, let me know if you want one

[molten bobcat]

I am all who came before me and I'm doin okay I think 🙂

[ocean marsh]

Yeah for sure mail me one

[proper dragon]

i liek banas too

[austere sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-venus-dancing-gif-11899097

[proper dragon]

is it politically incorrect to use amazon to mail bananas

[open lava]

Guys i got 8 vms

• Separate by 4 vlans made by pfsense (its on device 1)
• And each 2 vlans are on 2 different physical devices
• i got the issue where i want to connect those on device 2 with those on device 1 so they see each other
• and i have tailscale up on the 2 hosts but i dont think its doing a thing

[sharp shuttle]

why

[open lava]

Resources are tight

[molten bobcat]

Not what he asked

What's it for

[open lava]

So i im using old pc to take some of the load

[worthy cargo]

#homelab-sysadm

[molten bobcat]

Why are you doing this

[proper dragon]

its appropriation

[open lava]

Its a zero trust lab

[ocean marsh]

Why

[open lava]

Abac based

A project

[desert cargo]

[ocean marsh]

Cool

[molten bobcat]

Vague af

[west venture]

Cloud "YOU" are just a bunch of atoms organized in a very specific order. Every single thought you get, everything you've ever done UpTo now, down to this conversation, is decided by the laws of the universe and how everything you're made up of interacts with each other. We're all just the universe. There's no "you" or "I". "Death" is just that order breaking down and becoming arrenged in other orders or job existing as simple elements. So, "your mark" won't even be "your" mark. It's just a part of the universe as a result of a very long chain of chemical reactions.

[open lava]

I tried using tail scale on the hosts but still vms cant see each other

[eternal mango]

Part of a course or something?

[molten bobcat]

Decided by the laws of the universe you say?

[eternal mango]

or publicly available recipe

[proper dragon]

egoists BTFO

[molten bobcat]

Preordained?

[worthy cargo]

A thought is no more than the movement of electrons from one place to another in the brain.

[molten bobcat]

How strange

[open lava]

I got 2 solutions 1 setting up 2 firewalls and connect them with a tunnel on pfsense

Or installing tailscale on all vms but idk what will happen next

[molten bobcat]

Preordained by who?

[ocean marsh]

No, C1oud will die and go to an isekai

[molten bobcat]

Why are the laws of physics the way they are?

[west venture]

Well we don't know, idk what happened before the big bang

[sharp shuttle]

Yakub

[molten bobcat]

AND THERES THE RUB

YOU CANT KNOW

[west venture]

And?

[eternal mango]

Part of a course or something, or a publicly available recipe for practicing within such an environment?

[molten bobcat]

This argument has been had a billion times for a billion years and it doesn't have a correct answer lmao

[worthy cargo]

Not only is the Universe strange, it is stranger than we can even imagine.

[molten bobcat]

It's fake and stupid and I hate people who try to argue it like it's a fact

[west venture]

What's a fact?

[open lava]

No its graduation project for a scholarship/ diploma im in

[molten bobcat]

Nothing is

[undone fossil]

What

[proper dragon]

praise Yakub for creating me without a purpose to win online arguments with

[molten bobcat]

Whether or not life exists for a purpose or not

We can't know

[austere sigil]

What?

[eternal mango]

You should really speak to your tutor, or fellow students tbh

[west venture]

Well, the fact you're talking here is a fact.

[molten bobcat]

Sure, but why?

[open lava]

They doesnt know 😅

[eternal mango]

You're not gonna find many to help with your coursework

[undone fossil]

Is cloud having an existential crisis in real time

screenshare?

[open lava]

Im trying to search for solutions

[molten bobcat]

Nah the argument is about existence tho

[west venture]

No reason. And you were always destined to talk here.

[molten bobcat]

They're saying it's pointless lol

[austere sigil]

how do you know you are not some brain in a jar?

[undone fossil]

I mean theoretically that's a valid answer

[molten bobcat]

How can something have no reason but also be preordained to happen lol?

[jagged storm]

This claim logically defeats the initial point you're trying to make, though.

[proper dragon]

i am
drop banana in jar pls

[undone fossil]

here you go 🍌

[turbid goblet]

hi @kanye

[eternal mango]

Not the purpose of this server to provide assistance with coursework, so drop it please.

[molten bobcat]

Not really, I'm arguing that it's a choice

[worthy cargo]

What are facts?

—All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called “facts.” They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain. Who does not know fellows that always have an ill-conditioned fact or two which they lead after them into decent company like so many bull-dogs, ready to let them slip at every ingenious suggestion, or convenient generalization, or pleasant fancy? I allow no “facts” at this table. What! Because bread is good and wholesome and necessary and nourishing, shall you thrust a crumb into my windpipe while I am talking? Do not these muscles of mine represent a hundred loaves of bread? and is not my thought the abstract of ten thousand of these crumbs of truth with which you would choke off my speech?

-- Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

[molten bobcat]

I choose to believe in something further

It's okay for that to be wrong

[west venture]

Like if we somehow got the exact parameters of the universe at the point of the big bang and used an insanely large supercomputer to calculate the exact trajectory of the universe. It could predict this exact conversation. So no, there's no choice

[molten bobcat]

But I can't know whether or not it's fact

[west venture]

I don't

[molten bobcat]

And no one can

[jagged storm]

'We can't know' is an absolute, which would require verification.

[proper dragon]

this
we contend with the TRUTH in here

[worthy cargo]

We don't know 'yet'. We will learn.

[molten bobcat]

Well.. I'll mark my calendar for when humans can validate an afterlife?

That would be wild huh

[proper dragon]

three body problem blocks your path

[jagged storm]

That's sorta the problem. If the afterlife is something that could never be confirmed, then by the definition of 'existence', it does not exist.

[sharp shuttle]

dont worry cloud, youve been a good monkey, when you die and come to the oo oo aa aa gates, you will judged by curious george who shall grant you 79 virgin bananas and a ice cream sundae to live inside of, you can eat it for eternity but it will never melt or rot

[austere sigil]

and what is your view on afterlife?

[open lava]

Im just searching for some solutions i thought anyone here would have any thing to help me with

[undone fossil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/brawl-stars-messages

[worthy cargo]

Afterlife and all that are produced out of the fear of not knowing what happens after death.

[sharp shuttle]

omg my dopamine receptors

is this heaven

[worthy cargo]

Fear fabricates fantasy.

[undone fossil]

yes

[west venture]

We do know. We just rot

[open lava]

I hate this game

[undone fossil]

brath your heaven allows you to shitpost all day

[molten bobcat]

I'm just saying that because it's impossible for us to know in our lifetimes, that we shouldn't be quick to judge people on their opinions. Be it faith or no faith

I'll be sure to be open to my opinion changing were a biblical event to occur

[sharp shuttle]

nah my heaven is simple. big lazyboy with my girls and my pets, endless snack foods, and the ability to watch history from start to finish from all perspectives from start to finish

[jagged storm]

But you say it's impossible, without knowing it's impossible. If you're defining something specifically as impossible, then no form of logic that exists in our universe could ever treat it as 'existing'.

[west venture]

Also the universe is deterministic, so you basically have no free will

[molten bobcat]

Sigh should I just

Reclarify

What I mean

[austere sigil]

so it's not my fault? cool

[worthy cargo]

This business of conversation is a very serious matter. There are men that it weakens one to talk with an hour more than a day’s fasting would do. Mark this that I am going to say, for it is as good as a working professional man’s advice, and costs you nothing: It is better to lose a pint of blood from your veins than to have a nerve tapped. Nobody measures your nervous force as it runs away, nor bandages your brain and marrow after the operation.

[west venture]

Nah you were always destined to do it

[austere sigil]

well that sucks

[west venture]

I know

[proper dragon]

a wild empiricist appeared!
fight items
team run

[worthy cargo]

There are men of esprit who are excessively exhausting to some people. They are the talkers who have what may be called jerky minds. Their thoughts do not run in the natural order of sequence. They say bright things on all possible subjects, but their zigzags rack you to death. After a jolting half-hour with one of these jerky companions, talking with a dull friend affords great relief. It is like taking the cat in your lap after holding a squirrel.

[west venture]

Uh huh

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/iqsTIXyZm4Z.gif

[sharp shuttle]

is this me

[proper dragon]

yes

[worthy cargo]

I don't think so

[sharp shuttle]

no, it def is

[worthy cargo]

I haven't found you to be like that

But if you think are you, you might be!?

I have no idea

[west venture]

Why are you not engaging in this conversation when you normally engage

[sharp shuttle]

yeah im self aware

my mind goes crazy

[sharp shuttle]

i like reading your perspectives

[proper dragon]

lateral thinking tends to produce this experience in people trying to follow

[molten bobcat]

I just can't agree with a self destructive perspective

[worthy cargo]

All men are bores, except when we want them.

Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

[west venture]

Self doesn't exist to be destroyed though

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/g6jT2CtZmpC.gif

[worthy cargo]

Exactly

[molten bobcat]

How do you know

[proper dragon]

is self in the room with us

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona-3-kotone-yukari-junpei-gif-4321000701653729320

[worthy cargo]

The Ego, which is Latin for "self" is an illusion.

You can't kill what doesn't exist.

[proper dragon]

Eggzy is jusy waiting to drop dependant arising on us I feel it

[worthy cargo]

On the contrary.

[west venture]

We are part of the universe, just like everything else. Just look around, you're not separate. Nor is anyone.

[worthy cargo]

Self Reliance the essay by Ralph Waldo Emerson is fantastic.

[sharp shuttle]

wheres this quote from, id like to read more

[molten bobcat]

I dunno it kinda just feels like they're the ones to comment on a picture of a cat and say "this exists for no reason. This has no purpose. Posting this is meaningless."

[worthy cargo]

oops

[frigid mountain]

The Transcendentalists like Emerson and Thoreau are great.

[worthy cargo]

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/751/751-h/751-h.htm

THE
AUTOCRAT
OF
THE BREAKFAST-TABLE

[west venture]

You still fail to see the big picture here

[molten bobcat]

I've been seeing the big picture every single night for a long time

[sharp shuttle]

but i did have breakfast this morning

thank you

im making it into an audio book rn

[jagged storm]

I think it's kinda the opposite. When 'everything' is special, nothing is.

[worthy cargo]

My pleasure

[undone fossil]

Can someone ping me when we're back on tech

[molten bobcat]

If everyone is not special maybe you can be what you want to be

[sharp shuttle]

we can just make it tech related

manifest

[molten bobcat]

ONE

[worthy cargo]

Meaninglessness is beatiful. Where is it writ that my life has to have meaning. Perhaps the search for meaning is the very source of misery in mankind.

[molten bobcat]

TWO

https://open.spotify.com/track/5BWUhb5fg3yXJLddvjwXDo?si=ApjZeI5uRRu1xW4Waw9s_Q

[west venture]

You be what you will be

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/123-gif-21918069

[iron galleon]

https://tenor.com/hBE6v0KNCxp.gif

[west venture]

You can do what you will, sure, but you can't will what you will.

[molten bobcat]

Okay

[worthy cargo]

Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law!

Aliester Crowly

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-when-everyones-super-gif-10466529

[molten bobcat]

I knew I heard that from somewhere haha

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/succulent-chinese-meal-succulent-meal-democracy-manifest-gif-10168529347572359881

[proper dragon]

whats the purpose of technology in our lives
Its just created exponentially more suffering after unburdening us from many laborious processes

[worthy cargo]

No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names very readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution; the only wrong is what is against it.

[molten bobcat]

Im open to all sorts of concepts

[sharp shuttle]

systematic synthetic magicks

[worthy cargo]

“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”
― Ralph Waldo Emerson

Man I love Emerson

I love Thoreau

[austere sigil]

magic with a C or CK?

[sharp shuttle]

ck

[molten bobcat]

They're not invalid for having their opinion it's just too depressing for my taste and I don't agree

[sharp shuttle]

ck is the alchemical version

[worthy cargo]

@sharp shuttle https://www.gutenberg.org/files/16643/16643-h/16643-h.htm#SELF-RELIANCE Put this on your list too.

[frigid mountain]

@eggzy I have a fave thoreau quote

[proper dragon]

maybe we shape the world as we do solely towards the end of bringing 2d waifus to life

[worthy cargo]

What is it?

[frigid mountain]

"I heartily accept the motto, "That government is best which governs least"; and. I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically."

[west venture]

It's kinda liberating when you think about it

[molten bobcat]

I'm sure it is to some

But I enjoy choosing my purpose

[sharp shuttle]

like an rpg

[frigid mountain]

That's my main hope for technology and AI ❤️

[molten bobcat]

Even if the concept of me choosing that is, to you, also preordained

Which is, y'know, word

[proper dragon]

why is it depressing to you?

[west venture]

Well there's nothing wrong with leaning into that illusion

[iron galleon]

Can I take you to a moment
Where the fields are painted gold?
And the trees are filled with memories
Of the feelings never told?

[sharp shuttle]

guys stop saying profound stuff and listen to trap music

it will dull the senses

[molten bobcat]

Iunno what to say to someone who doesn't believe in their own free will lol

[turbid goblet]

i bought winrar license

[frigid mountain]

@sharp shuttle I'm listening to Dark UK Garage, thanks

[worthy cargo]

Choice is an illusion. The brain already decides what it is going to do up to 8-10 seconds before it enters the awareness center of the brain and we become aware of what the brain has chosen.

Free Will is free. Free from you. You don't control your will. The will is free to do as it wants. You're just a bystander, a witness to the events.

[sharp shuttle]

fantastic, the iq ripper

[jagged storm]

Uhh, I mean... physics backs it up.

[molten bobcat]

Physics backs up that our choices aren't our own lol?

[frigid mountain]

[jagged storm]

and even some MRI testing has shown that you make decisions before you even know it. Free will is pretty much disproven lol

[molten bobcat]

I must have missed that one

[sharp shuttle]

thats psychology

[proper dragon]

a saint amongst men

[worthy cargo]

Exactly

[sharp shuttle]

actually it is physics too

[molten bobcat]

I disagree because someone with free will made this

[sharp shuttle]

hmm

[molten bobcat]

Wrong link fuck

[jagged storm]

Yeah, that if you could know the exact position of every atom in the universe, you could predict the future.

[west venture]

This is not me choosing a philosophical stance btw. If you literally could get all the parameters of the universe starting, you can calculate this exact argument with 100% accuracy.

[sharp shuttle]

hard determinism rat in the chat

[worthy cargo]

LaPlace said this too @jagged storm

[proper dragon]

physics can't aptly explain neurological processes

[west venture]

This is established physics