general

[remote bolt]

did u make that account when u was 10 ?

[rare monolith]

dont look at the 9 year old geniuses in the youtube documentaries who say they hacked nasa

[rough mirage]

yeah I understand man, thanks

[molten bobcat]

[rough mirage]

LMAO 😭

[rare monolith]

some people start at 20 some at 30

and they still learn so much its crazy

[molten bobcat]

I started at.. uhh

24..?

[rare monolith]

see exactlyy

[rough mirage]

discord account? i think at 12 yeah

[obtuse fern]

you know what's funnier than 24?

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-giggle-lol-class-classmate-gif-3527894

[rough mirage]

you from freedom land?

[molten bobcat]

Ye

[obtuse fern]

imagine wireless corn

[fierce vale]

when I started internet was barely a thing yet

[molten bobcat]

Most corn is wireless yeah

Portable too

[obtuse fern]

nuh-uh, they come out of the ground on a wire

[molten bobcat]

You can put it in your pocket tho

[lime mirage]

I started when I was 6-7 don't worry about it homie

[fierce vale]

stumbled on some phrack issues on some bbses or something

[obtuse fern]

i'll put you in my pocket and get soft tacos

[rare monolith]

[molten bobcat]

I can't have soft tacos anymore

And I am devastated

[remote bolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15ghzkyPMlw

if u know this game u're legend

[rare monolith]

guys do you think that making a tower defense game with cheese attacking you and mice defending you a good idea

i think ive spend like 100 hours in godot already

[jagged storm]

might I suggest rats

just a thought

[rare monolith]

techniclly they are rats

hold om

on

ill show you the art

[jagged storm]

you just insulted my people

[rare monolith]

oh wait i have the art on my pc

shoot

[jagged storm]

EDR enabled <3

[frail turtle]

god damn https://github.com/BryanLunduke/SoftwarePoliticsTracker?tab=readme-ov-file this guy has been hard at work exposing people

he wrote a whole list

I remember the omarchy thing that was pretty noble

in my opinion software should always be apolitical but some people take it way too far and extreme and use them as avenues to push politics, it's not right, just make the damn software leave the real world behind the screen.

[azure remnant]

Where u learn this stuff bro

Amazing ngl

[remote bolt]

his name says enough

[frail turtle]

that's literally a bind shell, basic msf stuff they show in the CPTS track

[jagged storm]

Yes, but running with EDR watching.

sneaky sneaky

[frail turtle]

You read a book on evading EDR

i guess

idk ask @jagged storm

[jagged storm]

https://maldevacademy.com/

[frail turtle]

oh i know that site

im too poor to afford it

[jagged storm]

Trying to finish this course up, and then go snag CRTO

I should... probably do CRTO first, since it's way below this, but enh

[obsidian tartan]

victory laps are always fun

[remote bolt]

Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access maldevacademy.com

[rancid snow]

cpts before oscp

[rancid snow]

skill issue

be less blockable

[remote bolt]

my vpn is in singapore xD

[rare monolith]

probaly your vpn

[remote bolt]

yes its singapore

[rare monolith]

they don't like singapore i guess 🔥

[remote bolt]

xD

can change country server noproblem

[molten bobcat]

[remote bolt]

that cat needs cardio

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-orange-cat-slapping-whack-gif-12866600467125809606

[remote bolt]

cat tyson

[molten bobcat]

He gets plenty dw

[upbeat tangle]

cute cats

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-opinion-small-issue-cat-drink-gif-8087629111331289802

[frail turtle]

There is one and one one brain cell left in there

OH SHIT

I DID NOT NOTICE MY PC DOESN'T HAVE ANY SOUND

I jerry rigged this thing together to give me sound but it's not an actualy solution

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-lost-new-york-sigh-alone-gif-24949861

[supple plume]

Hi chat

[worthy cargo]

Hey echo

What's up

[supple plume]

I'm feeling good

[worthy cargo]

Me too

I need a job!

[supple plume]

Why is that

[worthy cargo]

Other than that, I'm hunky dory

Listening to music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w81_6TvzrQ Badass music and amazing visuals.

[supple plume]

Can't listen rn

[rare monolith]

anyone recommends some nostalgia bait music ?

[supple plume]

I feel like if I find 3 vulns like the one today I wouldn't need a job anymore

[frail turtle]

Vitamin R

[supple plume]

I would recommend trying

[rare monolith]

ill check it out

im b l o c k e d

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[glad crystal]

https://labs.hackthebox.com/achievement/machine/3179986/292

[supple plume]

❌

[supple plume]

Now let's go

Starting point?

[glad crystal]

Turns out I should try boxes when I'm tired

Yeah lol

[supple plume]

That's great

Starting point is dope 🔥

[glad crystal]

I script kiddie'ed tf out of that one. This dudes guide had NO explanation

[signal needle]

me i do somthing funny i only pwned starting point machine with python script ...

[supple plume]

I used to do that when I started

[signal needle]

like that

[supple plume]

That's cool af

Bibe code

[glad crystal]

Writing py scripts to pwn all of starting point is wild lol

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-typing-hacking-computer-codes-gif-17417874

[supple plume]

Actually AI wrote it

[glad crystal]

Even more wild

[signal needle]

yes too funny no i dont use AI i promise lol

[glad crystal]

Would still be cool if you did

Agentics + py would be kinda fire tho

[supple plume]

I wrote more than 500k lines of code with AI it looks like it

[signal needle]

really ?

[supple plume]

But french

[supple plume]

Yeah

[signal needle]

i found AI code not useful apart for little script ...

[supple plume]

I wrote literally millions of lines without AI

[rapid badger]

AI slop is obvious in all of its forms

[supple plume]

Back in my day slop was called spaghetti

[rare monolith]

Elon musk must really like you

[glad crystal]

One more box and starting point is done

[supple plume]

Why is that

[signal needle]

yes 🙂 you wrote malware 🙂 exploits need only 100 lines max

[glad crystal]

I'm a little flabbergasted that only ~19,500 people completed markup

[supple plume]

I wrote production code

[upbeat tangle]

oh i remember spaghetti code

[rare monolith]

he told in an interview that the more lines you write the better programmer you are. which is just absolute bullshit

[supple plume]

Oh yeah that is bs

More lines doesn't mean better work

[glad crystal]

You guys should see this ghetto ass data science script I wrote

[supple plume]

But I am still proud of having shipped a lot of spaghetti to prod

[glad crystal]

I couldn't add new lines inside it without breaking the loop so I had to slap a dict up top and the code at the bottom

[upbeat tangle]

you know what vibe coding back in the days was?

[rare monolith]

[glad crystal]

GitHub

[supple plume]

Stack overflow

[upbeat tangle]

SWAGHETTI YOLOGNESE

[glad crystal]

Or stack overflow lol

Or xd developers

[rare monolith]

stack overflow

i was beaten to it

arghh

[supple plume]

I remember I asked something once and I had -1 RTFM

[glad crystal]

I think xd developers went pretty hard

Used it to root phones

[rare flame]

hey guys new to HTB, ive been doing the academy but that labs being 20$ a month is a little daunting seeing as i dont know alot yet. should i stick to academy for a while or dive into labs? would i be able to get into the labs easily or will i be lost af?

[static pasture]

Stick to Academy and learn what you can. Do some active easy machines on labs to see if you are understanding the concepts being taught

You can do some seasonal machines for free

[supple plume]

You can try some labs but if you want to I would recommend starting point

[glad crystal]

Definitely need to learn fundamentals first or you will be completely lost on machines

[supple plume]

These are machines selected for beginners to experience it

[glad crystal]

I would HIGHLY recommend learning Linux starting RIGHT NOW.

[supple plume]

I really liked the starting point back in the day it got me hooked up

[glad crystal]

Download a virtual box like VMWare, download a Linux iso file, and set up a Linux virtual box. Learn how to navigate the file system. Get comfortable with it.

[supple plume]

Yeah linux comes in handy

[rare flame]

Godspeed all, started a homelab and am learning linux rn

[glad crystal]

Thats good.

[heady sage]

Shikamaru saying he likes fat bitches WAS not what I expected 😭

[glad crystal]

No lies detected

[supple plume]

Fat = more

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-sleepy-making-faces-gif-15803927170313152988

[upbeat tangle]

More girlfriend )= better

[turbid goblet]

im quitting

[supple plume]

What why

[turbid goblet]

quitting drinking bc its bad

[supple plume]

Oh ok

Good choice

[fierce vale]

that's a nice feeling

[iron berry]

I wish to have the same motivation to learn cybersec as two years ago.

[unreal plover]

.

[turbid goblet]

.

[iron galleon]

got a free $200 in claude usage

on us

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-fISFnRpj3RWjElJ6aF

[sturdy thistle]

I got 85

[shy mason]

You want to go grab a beer?

[supple plume]

How

[supple plume]

How do you get free claude

[rose onyx]

I only got 20 back 🙁

[supple plume]

Gubartz

[turbid goblet]

i got 50

[chrome tree]

I went to cancel my sub, and they were like, "Here have like 20 bucks worth poser."

[supple plume]

Huh

[rapid badger]

They really are like a desperate drug dealer at this point

[chrome tree]

Or they think I'm 20 dollar street walker... I mean I'm not gonna turn down "free money" lol

[supple plume]

Claude helped me on the bounty today

It's kinda useful

I find other models a bit stupid for the tasks I use them

[chrome tree]

Dude we done told you skynet can't get you the "huzz"

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-lesson-how-many-times-must-we-teach-you-how-many-times-do-we-have-to-teach-you-old-man-old-man-teach-a-lesson-how-many-times-old-man-gif-8041681960092208094

[supple plume]

It helps

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-oc-asks-wYyTHMm50f4Dm

Maybe if skynet could all make us over 6ft it could help

[supple plume]

Maybe if your goal is to be 6tf

[chrome tree]

I would love to be 6 tf

[supple plume]

How tall are you

[chrome tree]

Listen I waddled in from the Shire.

https://giphy.com/gifs/movie-the-hobbit-lotr-sgGXKS80ChT9u

Also I read that as "6 the fuck" cause you mixed up those letters

[sharp shuttle]

skynets going to cut our arms and legs off and put us in nugget pods for the matrix

[quaint sun]

Can't get my PC back for at least a week so I might put Kali/Parrot on a Pi 5 for labs. 4GB RAM will hopefully get me by.

[supple plume]

We will need the limbs to worship the beast

[sharp shuttle]

this btw is the biggest flaw in the matrix movie. if skynet was on iteration (((6))) of the simulation, they would know to cut off arms and legs so the nuggets took less space and couldnt revolt

unless neo is a flying nugget now

[chrome tree]

Hmmmm, I like to envision myself more as a po-ta-to

https://giphy.com/gifs/diy-digital-clock-potato-IXlxdbjPiWiiI

More carbs than protein really

[supple plume]

I'll need to visit more kfc to get familiar with it

[sharp shuttle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chicken-nugget-spinning-1

neo, matrix 1, circa 1995

i will save you TRINITY

https://klipy.com/gifs/chicken-nuggets-spinning

[supple plume]

[sharp shuttle]

neo fighting the clones

the fact that nugget is spinning is because its filled with metals..

thats scary as hell man

[quaint sun]

It's just excited

[sharp shuttle]

its having a magnetic reaction

[supple plume]

Orange cat 🐈

[sharp shuttle]

ahhhh what a cutie

[chrome tree]

Gotta get that iron some how. Just don't mind the shreds

[supple plume]

Best kind

[sharp shuttle]

is that your cat?

[supple plume]

There is 2 cats in this picture

[supple plume]

The orange yes

[sharp shuttle]

oh i see the other one too

[supple plume]

His name is gingercat

Hahahhaha

[sharp shuttle]

good thing all cats are already soulless creatures

[supple plume]

Idk about soul

But I think the feel affection

[sharp shuttle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/black-cat-kaala-billa

[glad crystal]

https://labs.hackthebox.com/achievement/machine/3179986/479

Starting point completed

[supple plume]

Great

[latent oak]

What’s up y’all

[supple plume]

Hey @sharp shuttle any tips for when I move to the US

[chrome tree]

It's the man with good taste in music. Sup dood?

[chrome tree]

don't lol

[sharp shuttle]

move to california and defraud the state for disability and food stamps

[latent oak]

Lol, I’m just finishing a long day in the security mines

[supple plume]

I would go to Texas

[sharp shuttle]

texas is just nu-california

it would work the same

[glad crystal]

Texas will throw the book at you LMAO

[supple plume]

Ok defraud state 🗒️ ✍️

[sharp shuttle]

they will yes, but not if you are non-white

[chrome tree]

Taking home a nice haul from the mines today?

[sharp shuttle]

basically a cheat code

[glad crystal]

You got it backwards

[supple plume]

I am white but with spanish accent

[glad crystal]

Thats California

[sharp shuttle]

its so over

[latent oak]

Some fool’s gold, mostly

[glad crystal]

Texas will give you double time for being POC.

California will give you no time.

[sharp shuttle]

i was under the impression the entire states circuit court is filled with californians now

[chrome tree]

You went to the mines for that? They be giving that out on the surface for free friend.

[proper dragon]

representing yourself pro se is a b
thank goodness for AI though

[glad crystal]

Maybe in some cities

[supple plume]

What

[glad crystal]

Don't try that in a small town lmao

[sharp shuttle]

well i wouldnt know truly, i just know i cant stand california's mental gymnastics

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-end-near-bell-gif-13990251

[chrome tree]

I can hear the country in the background lol

[glad crystal]

I agree

[sharp shuttle]

they make laws they dont enforce unless its convenient to ruin your life, if you are white of course

[glad crystal]

The mental gymnastics is kinda wild

Yeah, J6'ers are evil people that should have their life ruined but ICE protestors and looters are just misunderstood.

Welcome to America.

[jagged storm]

Racism baiting. A new low.

[sharp shuttle]

less that and more letting people drive uninsured if they are illegal or "undocumented" but revoking driving privileges if you are a tax payer

makes no sense

its not baiting man

and i lived for 12 years with ridiculous nonsense, im going to call it out now

[glad crystal]

I wanted rat to unblock me but I am glad I'm blocked now. His name definitely checks out.

[jagged storm]

This is not the place for your racism rants

[sharp shuttle]

sir, im not being racist

am i not allowed to talk about double standards?

[glad crystal]

He doesn't want the double standard shoved in his face. He likes his bubble.

[sharp shuttle]

at least you know the word too zerotrust

its fucking annoying

[chrome tree]

Gonna start my own homestead Brath away from the government. Deep in Alaska cold so no one comes out to bother.

[sharp shuttle]

alaska is probaby the last true bastion of freedom

[glad crystal]

It's been happening for years, tbh. We've had backwards systems in a lot of states and cities. It's just more visible now.

[chrome tree]

Ngl, I see the people out there building their own homes and doing their own thing and it looks quite appealing

plus less people

https://giphy.com/gifs/editingandlayout-people-it-crowd-yidUznwbfpbq85663e

[sharp shuttle]

its visible enough for me to call it out, yet, people who dont like hearing it from years of indoctrination to confuse them about source of truth, call it racism

[proper dragon]

hes right ya know

[sharp shuttle]

its not.

[jagged storm]

Read the rules.

[glad crystal]

Yeah but some Alaskans are nuts and I can't blame them. If I had sun for 3 to 6 months at a time, I would probably lose my mind.

[sharp shuttle]

i have read the rules, i did not break any

[proper dragon]

absolute facts
theyre lost in the kool aid

[chrome tree]

Brath lives on the line

[glad crystal]

"ReAd tHe RuLeS"

[iron galleon]

social justice warriors

[sharp shuttle]

i have not disrespected anybodies ethnics, heritage, gender, skin color, etc, and i never will

i simply pointed out a double standard

[glad crystal]

Bingo

[sharp shuttle]

its a bit unfair to call that racism

[glad crystal]

Same. I have only one beef and I won't mention it here but it's an ideology, not a race, ethnicity, etc.

[jagged storm]

Your 'reverse racism' bullshit isn't going to fly. Kindly move on.

[sharp shuttle]

...what

[glad crystal]

And it's only because of the prevalence of the bad. I know there is good ones.

[sharp shuttle]

okay man.

moving on, indeed

[iron galleon]

ur on his shit list now brath

watch out

[glad crystal]

"White isn't a race!" - rats

[sharp shuttle]

i dont care, because i hold no animosity to rat or anybody else

[proper dragon]

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

[sharp shuttle]

i am just myself

if you dont like it, i dont care

[glad crystal]

While it's technically not a race, neither is "black." I can't stand people that say "reverse racism." It's just racism and it can happen to anyone.

[turbid goblet]

alinity is live. goodluck

[sharp shuttle]

what does that mean, kami?

[proper dragon]

REEE BUT MY COLLEGE PROF SAID SOMETHING ELSE

[sharp shuttle]

the streamer?

[turbid goblet]

😉

[chrome tree]

Buddha Brath. Call him BB for short

https://giphy.com/gifs/playstationde-baby-nice-FPr9hZMmF72En3cFxu

[sharp shuttle]

my nickname in highschool was triple B

[glad crystal]

They should have picked a STEM degree. Sucks to suck.

[sharp shuttle]

that tracks

[sharp shuttle]

what is this from, i am unsettled

[chrome tree]

The great walking simulator

Death Stranding

[glad crystal]

Wait until libs find out computers use master/slave logic.

[sharp shuttle]

ah never played it

[glad crystal]

"Cancel technology!"

[chrome tree]

Story is great. Gameplay... is literally walking everywhere carring heavy items on your back

[rare flame]

Sorry for the interruption, for the MacOS fundamentals in the academy how do i enter macOS?

[chrome tree]

While avoiding dead folk

[rare flame]

xD

[paper crest]

how do you connnect to the vpn server?

[sharp shuttle]

all i have to say on the matter ive already moved on from is that its quite apparent to me that counter-culture is emerging as calling out double standards, and we all should do it, if we truly want equality.

[jagged storm]

You need to already have a Mac

[glad crystal]

There's probably an academy thread in here. This is general, off-topic.

[iron galleon]

stop trying to reason with people who u gotta walk on egg shells with

just be u

[glad crystal]

I only say that because I don't know the academy UI or I would help you

[sharp shuttle]

i dont try to reason with demoralized people

i refuse to be subjugated by being ostracized by people who are driven by emotion

[iron galleon]

alr but nows a good time to js move on from that as well

bc they escalate

[sharp shuttle]

its just a statement, not directed

[iron galleon]

im just looking out for u

[sharp shuttle]

people need to learn that its not always complicated

i appreciate it man

[glad crystal]

I used to be a dem. My STEM field actually has been helping me suppress my amygdala and deal with emotional regulation.

Very disciplined field.

[proper dragon]

there are waaay to many people that have somehow confused feels with reals

[sharp shuttle]

i cant blame them

[molten bobcat]

Sigh

[sharp shuttle]

popular culture for nearly two decades was a slow burn of completely radicalizing people emotionally and making quite literally every single thing political

[glad crystal]

I feel more comfortable knowing this disc isn't full of people out-of-touch with reality.

[molten bobcat]

Rat isn't out of touch and brath isn't racist

[sharp shuttle]

that is true by the way

i dont think rat is out of touch

[glad crystal]

Rat is just confused about what "racism" is.

[supple plume]

Openvpn

[glad crystal]

Racism can be done to any human being.

[molten bobcat]

No, he's not

[chrome tree]

You know you've gotten old when you tell someone to go get their parent's VHS of Sandlot to get a reference and they respond, "you're talking about that big brick looking thingy?"

[sharp shuttle]

i think he offers an important perspective, like anybody, and has taught me things, which i value alot

[jagged storm]

Imagine being that dumb lol

[molten bobcat]

Racism is a fucking insidious parasite that requires constant vigilance

So I don't even blame him honestly

[proper dragon]

to be fair, it's not even about dem and republican either. As if two political groups can accurately capture the complexity of a nation of 320 million people lol
such a needlessly adversarial system that turns citizens on eachother instead of tuning them to eachother

[sharp shuttle]

stop focusing on the wings and look at the bird

[glad crystal]

I wouldn't disagree but to reject the idea that "white" people can be subject to racism is a logical fallacy.

[sharp shuttle]

(:

[molten bobcat]

I just know brath himself is not completely white and neither is his wife who he loves very much lol

[sharp shuttle]

i am what you call a race traitor

by some very close friends

[latent oak]

Ugh

[sharp shuttle]

who are not really friends anymore

[molten bobcat]

See, that comment

[sharp shuttle]

feelsgoodman

[latent oak]

That’s horrible

[molten bobcat]

The fact that was said about you dude

[proper dragon]

same
love my latinas like i love oxygen

[molten bobcat]

I cannot actually fathom it

[glad crystal]

Idk what I would be called. If I told you guys my ethnicity, I would probably get flack.

[molten bobcat]

I want to deck someone from the stratosphere

[sharp shuttle]

it hurts that people care so much about skin color

[rancid snow]

why would you get flak for your ethnicity lol

[chrome tree]

Morena in general.

[rancid snow]

outside of racism

[jagged storm]

Maybe stop baiting for it on a server where it's against the rules

[sharp shuttle]

rat, try living life without being bound by rules so strictly

people might like you more

[molten bobcat]

Brath loves him some controversial topics

[worthy cargo]

What's going on, people?

[paper crest]

do i need to do something other than "sudo openvpn [config]" cause it isn't working

[glad crystal]

Because people on both extremes of both sides of the aisle are coming after people with my heritage right now.

[jagged storm]

Ethics, you mean. Nah, eat shit.

[sharp shuttle]

rules are simply for guidance

[molten bobcat]

Can you copy paste your full command

[worthy cargo]

What do you mean by 'not working'. Specify

[sharp shuttle]

not always enforced

[proper dragon]

ethics =/= rules

[sharp shuttle]

ethics... what are those?

[glad crystal]

My grandfather had the skin tone of an Italian. Very tan. I'm "white."

[paper crest]

Can't visit target machine ip

[sharp shuttle]

from my perspective, ethics are a trap. you are either malicious or not

[glad crystal]

People dont seem to understand how complex heritage really is. The world isn't black and white.

[sharp shuttle]

i am not malicious

[worthy cargo]

Does it say Initialization Complete when you do the sudo command?

[paper crest]

in the terminal?

[molten bobcat]

Ethics aren't a trap

Hush

[worthy cargo]

Yes

[molten bobcat]

They're an important part of security

[worthy cargo]

If you do ip a in console, it should tell you if you have a tun0 iface up or not, with the VPN IP address

[glad crystal]

Code of Ethics is very important.

[molten bobcat]

Uncle Ben said with great power comes great responsibility

[turbid goblet]

ben 10?

great show

[molten bobcat]

Spiderman

[proper dragon]

people confuse the drive to develop and act in accordance with internally and socially derived principles with the requirement to blindly follow the dictates of authority
unsurprisingly, the groups that do this the most also most often becomes the monsters they swore to defend against as if by magic

[turbid goblet]

oh

close enough

[worthy cargo]

Response. Ability. Responsibility is just your ability to respond. That's it. It doesn't mean anything special.

[molten bobcat]

Or a brand of rice!

[paper crest]

it does show turn0

[molten bobcat]

Tun0

It's short for tunnel

[worthy cargo]

So now you are connected to the VPN. Now let's figure out why you can't connect to the machine ip. Are you doing a box or academy?

[paper crest]

yeah that, misread it

[jagged storm]

This is irrelevant to the point at hand. You are not bound by the rules here, unless you choose to be here.

[molten bobcat]

No worries 😄

[paper crest]

academy

[rancid snow]

ethics are values determined by society and should be taken with a grain of salt as context for stuff.

individual morals I find are more important for actual guidance and actions

[molten bobcat]

There's a separate VPN for academy and labs

[worthy cargo]

Go to #modules

[proper dragon]

i didnt see any rule broken

[manic anvil]

once the problem is the room generated two targets IPs for me one that it was showing and closed the other wasnt , when i refreshed the page the ip changed

[proper dragon]

nor did I break any

[chrome tree]

Guess not even once lol

[supple plume]

I don't think so

[glad crystal]

Anyone got recommendations on the easiest active machines that aren't webserver-related now that I've finished starting point or would you guys recommend I move on to more retired machines?

[paper crest]

I downloaded the .ovpn from the section I'm on and selected EU Academy 6

[worthy cargo]

This isn't THM. We don't have rooms here. 🙂

[proper dragon]

ethics dont only have to be determined by society
they can be individually constructed

[obtuse fern]

this is a pg-13 server; please keep talk of illicit substances to a minimum

[manic anvil]

i meant machine , you get the point

[chrome tree]

shure cap

[rancid snow]

its quite literally part of the definition.

if its personally constructed it is a moral not an ethic

[turbid goblet]

i think we need to make hacking illegal again

[worthy cargo]

Make Hacking Great Again?

[molten bobcat]

.. it.. it is?

[latent oak]

That’s a great idea

[sharp shuttle]

it is illegal, yep

last i checked def illegal

[molten bobcat]

The difference between hacking and security work is consent

[worthy cargo]

Ethical hacking isn't illegal! It's ethical.

[sharp shuttle]

judge, i was ethically hacking her instragram, its okay

[latent oak]

Hacking is legal…

Committing crimes is not

[proper dragon]

morals become ethics

[rancid snow]

controversial opinion: more hackers should dabble in crime, even if good motivated

[rancid snow]

sure, but they are still seperate concepts, even if highly related

[latent oak]

Just some light fraud? Larceny?

[glad crystal]

I disagree. But adversarial thinking is important.

[proper dragon]

we can agree it's a chicken vs egg argument?

[worthy cargo]

I once heard on Frasier, "Ethics are something you do when no one else is looking."

Meaning, you don't showboat/show off that you're ethical in front of people. Even when alone, even when no one else is around, you still stick to your ethics.

[rancid snow]

no because that wasnt my argument at all lol you simply got confused by the definitions for a moment. its all good

[sharp shuttle]

im with you

i spent my entire life in the grey and will continue

[rancid snow]

you can tell whose actually been an adversary at some point and the hackers that arent. its night and day

[sharp shuttle]

^^^^

[worthy cargo]

Like Dragonlance, I'm the White Robes of Solinari

White Robed Wizard

[glad crystal]

Yeah, what's your assessment on me?

[worthy cargo]

True Good

[sharp shuttle]

in an interview i might ask to explain "the rush"

if you cant do it

idk man

might not be a good fit

and i think culture fit far outweighs skill

[proper dragon]

im not confused at all
ethics quite literally do not need to be determined by society. it is not an active process

maybe one day it was

[rancid snow]

from what little I know of you Id say youre still too much of a beginner to adopt a true adversarial role even if you wanted to.

So I dont think you have, but I can be proven wrong.

[glad crystal]

You would be wrong

[sharp shuttle]

inwikt do you believe in good and evil as definitions?

[rancid snow]

you should take a class on the subject

[proper dragon]

define evil

[iron galleon]

are we out here admitting our crimes now

[sharp shuttle]

i cant

[iron galleon]

what

[sharp shuttle]

i dont think you can

[rancid snow]

ok

[glad crystal]

I had severe trauma at the age of 3 and I used to run around with people from neighborhood crip (rolling 60s).

[sharp shuttle]

something that appears evil might actually not be

same with good

[chrome tree]

Thus Spoke Zarathustra

[iron galleon]

alr

[worthy cargo]

Lawful Good I am.

[manic anvil]

yes a fed made up the argument so we confess our crimes

[sharp shuttle]

by that chart i am absolutely chaotic good

[proper dragon]

lol, you're confusing active choice and passive mirroring

[turbid goblet]

lmao

alright

[glad crystal]

Ive just grown a lot but I'm glad you couldn't tell.

[worthy cargo]

I'm lawful good. Other than the laws I break which I keep on the down low 😄

[chrome tree]

I feel like Brath is a very Friedrich Nietzsche type individual

[turbid goblet]

this is a fever dream reddit forum anymore

[sharp shuttle]

i think his philosophy is interesting but flawed

[latent oak]

I caused property damage… i broke a lot of hearts! 😎

[glad crystal]

I would fall under the white hat with a black hat/grey hat adversarial mindset.

[rancid snow]

cool, whats the relation to hacking then? Genuinely interested if theres a connection you see. Im not the end all authority on the subject and different insights are neat

[sharp shuttle]

i am more into jung type philosophy

self is important

i believe in karma

[worthy cargo]

Self is an illusion.

[rancid snow]

youre making up stuff I havnt said lol

[sharp shuttle]

i know eggzy xD

thats why i like it

[worthy cargo]

Karma is a Sanskrit word that means Action.

[glad crystal]

Considering that I've been learning cybersec for 7+ years and used to help people break into stolen phones? Lol

[sharp shuttle]

our "self" is malleable, if you have a soul you can manifest destiny, its kinda that simple

[proper dragon]

you said I misunderstood your point. I did not. My claim that you argued against was "ethics dont only have to be determined by society
they can be individually constructed"
this is functionally true.

[rancid snow]

and? Im not challenging you, im inviting you to share your insights lol

[glad crystal]

My adversarial mindset is more criminal-based as far as psychology and manipulation goes but I'm not technologically illiterate.

[chrome tree]

Interesting reads for sure. I was reading Beyond good and evil a while back. Enjoyed the imagery lol. Leviathan!

[rancid snow]

thats wrong. literally take any class on ethics

[sharp shuttle]

i have graduated past philosophers and just dabble in esoterica

i am bored to hell with the major figures

[glad crystal]

I would align more with people like Rachel Tobac, even though she is far more skilled than I am by a long stretch.

[proper dragon]

i have, I have also written advanced thesis on ethics and have been published lol

[glad crystal]

I lean a lot stronger into OSINT and Psychological Manipulation.

[rancid snow]

rad, link the publication

[proper dragon]

"dox yourself"

[chrome tree]

Have you ever listened to the philisophize this podcast, or used to before hitting the enlightened wall? luls

[proper dragon]

no

[worthy cargo]

I am a published author. I had an article published in a psychedelic magazine about a certain thing.

🙂

[sharp shuttle]

we just call that the only good part of the dark triad

[rancid snow]

okay so your claim to authority is meaningless then

[glad crystal]

In fact, my entire path right now is combining psychology + criminology + GRC

Insider threat awareness

[proper dragon]

your single retort has been "you just dont get it"

[sharp shuttle]

i never really listened to podcasts on any matter, i use alot of audiobooks

i make alot of audiobooks

[worthy cargo]

Have you read any Jiddu Krishnamurti?

[sharp shuttle]

i am listening to one right now

[jagged storm]

I wrote a published paper debunking your paper

[rancid snow]

okay

[sharp shuttle]

no, but you sent me a youtube video on his beliefs

i think it was on death

[glad crystal]

Thats why I laugh when people hop in my DMs and think they can manipulate me

[proper dragon]

lel

[glad crystal]

I like to scambait

[worthy cargo]

Bruce Lee read his works while he was laid out for 6 months because of his injury. All of Lee's wisdom comes from Krishnamurti

[sharp shuttle]

yep, thats what i recall too

[chrome tree]

Hmmmm, think about it. I think you might enjoy it. The first 90 episodes are a bit dry but you don't have to start there you can really choose anywhere. He just goes over different individuals from different time periods. It's good for like a car ride to the work site

[sharp shuttle]

yeah maybe man, i really dont like people telling me how to think, but im not against it

[rancid snow]

so would you say that your prior history has informed your current knowledge and direction and has made you more effective as a result?

[sharp shuttle]

my MO is to listen to all sides of an argument before making my own decision on belief

[glad crystal]

It has certainly made me more effective at spotting anomalies and suspicious behavior.

[chrome tree]

Oh he doesn't tell you how to think he just goes over their philosophy and their life back then. But if you do let me know what you think. It's just fun stuff

[rancid snow]

so then youd actually be an example of why I said what I said 😉

[glad crystal]

Wrong. You need a strong adversarial mindset for that.

[rancid snow]

I would add in fact checking for yourself..Just because someones argument is persuasive doesnt make it true

[sharp shuttle]

i used to maintain a "source of truth" bot that would try to correlate reddit,twitter,4chan posts and compare them into a summary. this taught me that everything in life is a half truth

you need to seek both ends

[rancid snow]

...yeah.

[proper dragon]

most of the time there are way more than 2 ends

[glad crystal]

Your entire claim was that I don't have a strong adversarial mindset lol.

[sharp shuttle]

yep, more than ever these days

ideas have been split into hundreds of pieces

[rancid snow]

no it wasnt lol

[proper dragon]

the power to consider possible alternatives is increasingly rarer

[turbid goblet]

i think he means APT not just being a punk

[glad crystal]

What is this

[worthy cargo]

There is no truth.

[rancid snow]

my claim was that I think its beneficial for more hackers to have committed crime even if good motivated

[proper dragon]

ragebait

[rancid snow]

you asked for my assessment of you and I answered while admitting that I coukd be wrong?

[sharp shuttle]

its almost beautiful how a corrupted mind thought to pervert a simple idea and aggressively split it into entire cultures of people who dogmatically hate one another based on text

[glad crystal]

Pretty much. Adversarial thinking goes beyond just punching keys

[sharp shuttle]

words are magick

[proper dragon]

this is a different krishnamurti lol

[worthy cargo]

I know

I like both

[proper dragon]

both are incredibly solid

[worthy cargo]

Krishnamurti is a common last name in south India

[sharp shuttle]

truth is subjective, which many people are unaware

they hear truth and think fact

good psyop

in court there is only mens reus and actus rea

[proper dragon]

i disagree. but truth is certainly always changing

i like william james' idea of truth

[glad crystal]

For instance, look at this clown in my inbox that I've been leading on.

[sharp shuttle]

truth is just our best individual understanding, even computers do this

[proper dragon]

"...truth is functional and pragmatic, defining "truth" not as a stagnant, absolute property, but as a dynamic process that "happens" to an idea through verification"

[sharp shuttle]

a hardware root of trust can be fudged

[rancid snow]

I think you got a little sidetracked on correcting my assessment of you vs the original point I was talking about

[rapid swallow]

Thought this was Jeffrey epstien for a sec

[sharp shuttle]

ah yes Jeff Ep, the Philosopher

lowkirkly

[jagged storm]

Bro just likes to fight. Even picked a flight with staff. Not worth your time lol

[glad crystal]

I understood your point and coming from someone that has broken laws, I advise against it still. I think it's important to learn adversarial thinking through a structured environment, not through illegal means.

[chrome tree]

Well a consenus is normally formed. Like why should I call that thing growing out of the ground a tree? Well people told me that was the general consensus. What's that study where one person looks up and then everyone start to join in with curiosity. Then you have a bunch of people with pain in their necks? lol

[rancid snow]

Thats a totally fair argument. I did say my stance was controversial lol

Im just dubious that a structured environment can actually truly teach it properly.

[glad crystal]

Indeed it is. That's why I took up the debate.

[glad crystal]

And you're right. It may not be 100% feasible for someone that is sheltered to fully understand @rancid snow

[worthy cargo]

I saw that years ago!

[chrome tree]

I thought I was just reverse dyslexic

[glad crystal]

I need some real advise, though. Anyone know the easiest non-web based active box I should try or should I move to other retired machines now that I finished starting point?

Looking for some input here. Trying to sharpen my pen testing skills.

[rancid snow]

sure but then it turned into my assessment of you, which you established was wrong but ends up painting you as the exact example of what I mean.

I think theres a lack of counter examples.

[proper dragon]

this is a linguistics conventions argument, not one related to "truth"
though the pain in the necks argument is more of an effect of some ignorance and not a merit of recognition of some first principle

[iron galleon]

What is the truth?

[glad crystal]

I think that's where we aren't seeing eye to eye. You assumed I was too "nooby" so-to-speak to have a strong adversarial mindset. I simply disagree.

[sharp shuttle]

this is a fiar point, in fact it is a central argument i make. communication is magic, like words are magick, communication is stringing the right words together to make a spell. With that said, if you perform the spell wrong, you get wildly different outcomes. It is why tower of babel is central to human difference. When you pair it with tribalistic tendencies, esp low iq dipshits basing threats off non-verbal communication, it creates exponentially more complex spellcraft. The most basic form of hacking took these pricinples and created the "lie"

[iron galleon]

What happens to be the truth? There is no truth there is only

[rancid snow]

ah okay I see what you mean. Thats fair, I was probably being too narrow in my definition of adversarial thinking

[glad crystal]

You might be right as far as parsing logs, but not from a psychology standpoint.

[sharp shuttle]

what i am saying is, what is a lie if you think truth is not real?

[chrome tree]

I was being more facetious. I try not to take anything too seriously.

[iron galleon]

LMAO

we really debating what the truth is

HAHAHA

[sharp shuttle]

truth is what we agree on

simply

its not fact though

[chrome tree]

Hey, look something shiny

lol

[rancid snow]

its the oldest argument ever made and it aint stopping anytime soon

[proper dragon]

completely disagree with you 😉

[sharp shuttle]

and thats okay

[glad crystal]

That was my point, essentially. Cybersecurity expands beyond looking through logs. People try to use malicious external devices, break into places they shouldn't, manipulate employees, etc.

[iron galleon]

LMAOOO

[sharp shuttle]

i still respect your opinions and you as a person

[rancid snow]

Well my thinking of it was encompassing all those things too, but yeah I get the gist of what you mean

[sharp shuttle]

but you have to consider, am i just saying that? 😉

[glad crystal]

@rancid snow in the end, everyone has their own talents and expertise. Mine is just based more on insider threat behavior.

[sharp shuttle]

my expertise is based on eating sand in the litter box

yummmy

[proper dragon]

mAlIcIoUs aCtOrS

[iron galleon]

ShinyHunters

[glad crystal]

I would essentially scan social media, observe employees, etc. to locate potential insider threats and then help write policy to mitigate threats.

[sharp shuttle]

i found a shiny nugget in my sand box!

its a clump

it tastes different from the rocks

[glad crystal]

Psychology + criminology + GRC is a very unicorn area of cybersecurity.

[turbid goblet]

stop eating cat poop out of the kitty litter brath

[chrome tree]

You're tasting the rocks? I'm just tasting pennies

[sharp shuttle]

kami why you always have to ruin the fun

you could have joined me and built sick sand castles

that the cats can live inside of

then we could have taken instagram photos

[turbid goblet]

i left instagram since meta took over

[chrome tree]

If you didn't post it on social media, did it really happen?

[proper dragon]

this is a special kind of creative

[turbid goblet]

i post on etsy now

[sharp shuttle]

my mother says i can be anything i want to be when i grow up

and i love my mom

[glad crystal]

I definitely believe in the power of putting your mind to something and achieving it but I think people are better built for certain things in life.

Especially when shaped by the past.

[proper dragon]

no I'm peter pan

[turbid goblet]

zero im curious how old are u

[sharp shuttle]

most of those people should be turned into dog food

[glad crystal]

LOL

https://tenor.com/view/unc-still-got-it-gif-6384030002593541773

[latent oak]

@glad crystal you work in GRC?

[glad crystal]

I'm almost done with a bachelor of science in cybersecurity in an NSA/DHS accredited program (CAE-CD). It leans very heavily into GRC.

[latent oak]

Ah

[sharp shuttle]

wow you recalled this lolol

[proper dragon]

if your dog told you to kidnap the president would you

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-debbie-what-are-you-smoking-pretty-cute-laughing-gif-17399087

[sharp shuttle]

if my dog could speak i would be more interested in protecting him from the feds

[turbid goblet]

bro im trying go live in sweden

anyone have like a few mil i can inherit?

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-lebron-lebron-james-true-nba-gif-2358803548784100453

[chrome tree]

The first thing that came to mind lol. I love old western animation

[latent oak]

If my dog could speak I’d guess she’d mostly talk about food

[glad crystal]

Also facts.

[rancid snow]

futurama being called old western animation kills me

[glad crystal]

And that's why he must be protected from the feds. He's family.

[latent oak]

… and strange noises

[glad crystal]

Leave my kid alone fed boi!

[latent oak]

A car door closed outside!! Woof woof!

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/bspin-bitcoin-casino-bitcoin-meme-memes-bitcoin-gif-8112327427980097543

[cosmic relic]

hi everyone

[proper dragon]

what if everything your dog said was actually malicious

[glad crystal]

I would give him to the feds

https://tenor.com/view/karen-being-a-karen-calling-the-police-calling-the-cops-gif-3901931283700340626

[proper dragon]

so your dog hurts your feelies and then you're going to do him/her in? sheesh

thats rough

[latent oak]

https://tenor.com/view/karen-rude-upset-mad-shake-gif-17495718

[glad crystal]

Maybe we should define "malicious."

[sharp shuttle]

if my dog was trying to harm me, my family, or friends. sorry bud its ol yeller time. if he was a pitbull, also sorry bud, its ol yeller time. if he was malicious to feds? time to switch to an all tannerite diet and call them ATF boys over

you feel?

(this was a joke)

[glad crystal]

I don't think hurt feelings = malicious.

[proper dragon]

"all tannerite diet"

[sharp shuttle]

the problems solve themselves through creative solutions

[glad crystal]

Like, I'm not going to call the feds on my talking dog if he says I'm a dick or something.

[turbid goblet]

who still listening to froggy fresh in 2026

[proper dragon]

is it malicious when people act in a way to intentionally hurt feelies?

[glad crystal]

But if he says that he's plotting to take over the world, we have a problem.

[sharp shuttle]

martha speaks but mean

lolol

[glad crystal]

Is it possible to just ignore people and move on with your life?

[chrome tree]

Whose to say he/she wouldn't give you a seat in his/her new world order?

[proper dragon]

this is truely the question of the modern age

[rancid snow]

my dads pitbull started being violent to others so he sent her to me cause I lived alone at the time lol she did really well and never had an issue with any of my guests

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-you-gif-12132780510830100725

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laughter-laughter-control-dictator-sacha-gif-19146310

[sharp shuttle]

some pitties never harm anybody, but its not a very easy to dismiss statistic

[chrome tree]

If it's a dachshund I'm doing it for the memes too

[sharp shuttle]

my wife used to do rover and whenever there was a pitbull client i did the house sitting with her

i just dont trust em man

nothing personal

[rancid snow]

for sure, it was definitely a case of move her to an environment where she can do no harm or put her down

[proper dragon]

well there are alot of socioeconomic reasons for it

[sharp shuttle]

PitBullOS has alot of bugs

[glad crystal]

Pitts are the beezneez. I like blue nose pitts

[chrome tree]

Depends on the environment and the home really. If you socialize them and train them

[sharp shuttle]

Im a LabradorOS man myself

[glad crystal]

Yeah, we got a covid puppy and he's a dick but I love him

[proper dragon]

for me, its belgian shepherds

[turbid goblet]

mr worldwide?

[sharp shuttle]

i just like those dumb ass dogs so much

[latent oak]

It’s just that when things do go wrong, a pitbull can do a lot of damage

[rancid snow]

pitbulls can be wonderful dogs, but they also get extremely opinionated. Theyre supremely loyal to those theyve bonded to and once they decided they hate someone/something its forever a grudge.

And that grudge can include entire classes of people and animals

[latent oak]

But they are not inherently a “bad” species

[rancid snow]

also true

[glad crystal]

Same with some shepherd breeds.

[sharp shuttle]

we had a family friend who got her face eaten off basically, it kinda fucked me up, so i am just very bias

[latent oak]

I witnessed 2 pitbulls attack my friend’s husky when I was young

[chrome tree]

I want me a deer head chihuahua. My sister had one and I loved that dog so much. Then get me a bigun like a dobby

[rancid snow]

After owning a pitbull im definitely of the opinion that you need to be an experienced and responsible pet owner to own a pit bull

[latent oak]

The husky was tied up… it didn’t survive

[glad crystal]

Any dog

[rancid snow]

nah there are definitely dog breeds that have more leeway

[chrome tree]

That's dark man...

[rancid snow]

you dont need to be an expert to raise a lab

[glad crystal]

Specifically larger breeds I mean. Any irresponsible owner can make a dog become a threat.

[sharp shuttle]

a lab raises itself, just feed it and pet it

its a giant dumbass

always happy

[proper dragon]

I have a video of a pitbull attacking a tiger

[latent oak]

Yeah, the local biker / drug dealer kept them in a pen, but they got loose

[chrome tree]

Lab and Shep and gold I feel are pretty easy mode. Love em, feed em, and get em outside

[sharp shuttle]

its not happening man

live your life

you know the truth

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-brain-rot-patrick-star-sea-gif-797382355980327047

[sharp shuttle]

be happy you were vindicated

[broken flame]

Wrong chat oops 💁

[sharp shuttle]

ah yes the good ol WC

[rancid snow]

sure but theres degrees. Theres plenty of dog breeds id say a child could learn to raise as a first pet with a pretty low chance of serious issues cropping up.

I wouldnt let most adults raise a pitbull

[latent oak]

I’ve got a labradoodle… she’s a good doggo

[quaint sun]

Is there a policy / restriction on using Academy PwnBox to do Labs boxes via openvpn?

I have unlimited Academy PwnBox, but feel like it'd undermine VIP+ to use it for Labs, so wondering.

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-16278812894835706568

[proper dragon]

who are you talking to

[sharp shuttle]

mine is a husakdor, hes both of the dumbest breeds put together

and boy does it show

[broken flame]

For the record, i meant what i said 😂

[rancid snow]

huskies are pretty intelligent dogs, they just choose to act dumb

[glad crystal]

There's 70 million people that will do the footwork for me and then I just have to go verify their claims.

So I don't worry about it

[sharp shuttle]

well if hes pretending he does a great job raising my blood pressure lol

i call him the door because he always blocks me sideways

[chrome tree]

Okay, different opinion, but what about tarantulas? lol Looks like it could be enjoyable to do tarantula husbandry

[sharp shuttle]

wherever i need to go

[proper dragon]

lol someone blocked me

[sharp shuttle]

lol

[rancid snow]

huskies are drama queens

[glad crystal]

Yeah?

[proper dragon]

somebody needs some coconut oil

[heady sage]

Why do boys have a much deeper voice in the morning

[rancid snow]

I prefer avocado oil

[glad crystal]

Was it a rat?

[latent oak]

Dude wants to marry a spider

[sharp shuttle]

from all the screaming during the torture in my dreams

[latent oak]

😉

[proper dragon]

[chrome tree]

I can't just have two legs man. I'm greedy lol

That's why I can't just stop at user

[sharp shuttle]

thats kinda... hot

[heady sage]

Jesus Christ my boyfriend called me in the morning and I damn near fell out the bed from hearing his voice so deep

[iron galleon]

oh

[turbid goblet]

ur boyfriend is jesus christ?

[sharp shuttle]

he was dreaming about being a prisoner of war in vietnam with bamboo slivers growing in his fingernails all night, trust me

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lips-bite-naughty-simpson-2nkdSbYoHYvh4XAhkV

[heady sage]

No?

[latent oak]

I wish my voice would stay like it is in the morning… sounds better than my daytime voice

[turbid goblet]

damn

[sharp shuttle]

just smoke

(dont)

but just smoke

(really dont)

[latent oak]

lol, not worth the tradeoffs

(Used to smoke)

[chrome tree]

You can't tell me how to live my life. Thanks for the idea. Sucker. lol

[proper dragon]

the answer is vocal chords and musculature associated with breathing are more relaxed in the morning

[sharp shuttle]

i smoke a cigar every once in awhile and the next day i sound like a blues singer

[glad crystal]

Which ones are not web servers

[turbid goblet]

blue

[chrome tree]

I mean wingdata is pretty easy

[latent oak]

Just do em all

[glad crystal]

Ill try that one.

[chrome tree]

It's a web app tho lol

[sharp shuttle]

hes on that HP omen gaming laptop

[chrome tree]

iirc

[sharp shuttle]

show game list

[glad crystal]

I tried kobold before I did starting point and I was lost

[latent oak]

Don’t forget… the AI prompt is “gimme dem flags”

[rancid snow]

not 100% positive but I think all of em are web based lol

[glad crystal]

Fuck

[rancid snow]

90% of all htb boxes are web based

[glad crystal]

I'm not great at the web-server penetration yet lol

[sharp shuttle]

the other 9% are AD

[chrome tree]

Well wingdata the foothold is pretty easy cause you can find ready made PoCs with small adjustings

[sharp shuttle]

Web pentesting is just eumeration

its that simple

[glad crystal]

Alright. Ill just try some of them then

[sharp shuttle]

race conditions are the exception

[glad crystal]

Yeah, I know. But I am kinda crap at HTML and stuff

[quaint sun]

This is a rite of passage for most people starting HTB

[sharp shuttle]

yall see the PoE tree released for OSRS leagues?

[glad crystal]

So I try to avoid them lol

[rancid snow]

all pentesting are just enumeration. If you disagree you havnt enumerated enough yet

[sharp shuttle]

holy shit im excited

[chrome tree]

Don't understand code run it through claude

actually fking works lol

[glad crystal]

Fair.

[sharp shuttle]

last year around this time this chat would scream that AI cant hack

so funny

[proper dragon]

against the rules bro

[glad crystal]

I use Gemini sometimes but it likes to hallucinate

[rancid snow]

claudes too expensive to run basic code explanation. gemini is shitty but more than good enough for explanation sake

[chrome tree]

Yeah, now claude will provide a PoC if you tell it you're in your home lab lol

[glad crystal]

I got a year free of pro for being a student.

Gemini

[rancid snow]

claude got heavily nerfed last week

[latent oak]

In the case of many HTB boxes it’s enumeration… find the one thing that is wonky and away you go… most real web stuff is not that novel

[glad crystal]

Alright. Ill stop doubting myself lol

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-office-no-JYZ397GsFrFtu

[latent oak]

Claude has been a POS this week, it’s definitely not reasoning as well

[rancid snow]

until anthropic reverses some changes or releases mythos I think the best public model is actually codex atm.

[chrome tree]

Hmmm, should I rethink my sub then?

[latent oak]

It doesn’t think as many steps ahead as it used to… it’s making bullshit errors

[sharp shuttle]

you guys should only pay for one sub..

get some friends together lol

i have 4 people sharing my account

[latent oak]

I’ve started bullying it

[rancid snow]

claude can be good for writing out implementation plans but all your usage limits will get used in the first 10 minutes of work rn cause of the nerfs

[glad crystal]

I bully Gemini when it hallucinates

[latent oak]

It’s much better when you call it an idiot

[sharp shuttle]

damn you guys are rude

[proper dragon]

pro plan havers losing bigly

[sharp shuttle]

skynet will never forget this

[glad crystal]

I call it a fucking dumbass in all caps

[latent oak]

They will punish me when AGI arrives

[sharp shuttle]

you guys are going to get turned into dogfood, im going to get a AI wife

[glad crystal]

Im an enemy of the AI state

[rancid snow]

I dont see a point in raging at AI. I treat it more like a coworker

[sharp shuttle]

pfft

[cosmic relic]

hi, i have question, what is good OS to use for everyday?

[sharp shuttle]

macOS

[proper dragon]

AI logs when you get mad at it btw

[glad crystal]

To waste their electricity no matter how small

[sharp shuttle]

nice name btw

[latent oak]

Wait until it betrays you…

[cosmic relic]

i no have apple laptop

[rancid snow]

wasting my usage limits on cursing at it feels silly

[glad crystal]

I have pro

[rancid snow]

me too

[glad crystal]

I actually looked up how much electricity video would waste at one point and decided it wasnt worth the effort

100 videos a day cost them like $30 or something. Nothing to a multi-billion dollar corp

[latent oak]

Now I don’t trust anything it says… i said “did you check in all the files” “yes i did, all done” “I don’t believe you!” “My bad, there are 4 changed files. would you like me to commit them?”

[glad crystal]

Same lmao

"I think you're full of shit"

[rancid snow]

Yeah Ive had a similar issue recently. Needining it to check some things and no matter how much I reword something it was still half assing it

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/maury-well-welp-funny-nod-gif-7427834453665079625

[latent oak]

Did you implement the changes to use podman? Yes. Okay let’s do a test run… Docker is not running

…

[chrome tree]

I used to use Pop OS until they switched to wayland. Ubuntu is hella solid, if you're looking for a linux distro. W11 wouldn't be an absolute dumpster fire if the resource usage wasn't through the fkn roof

[jagged storm]

Ubuntu memory requirements are now above Windows 11

[azure dune]

Really?

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/anchorman-lies-lie-EouEzI5bBR8uk

[latent oak]

@cosmic relic they will all work… depends largely on what you want to do

[azure dune]

no way

[proper dragon]

[cosmic relic]

what is w11

[cosmic relic]

oh ok

[azure dune]

windows 11

[chrome tree]

Windows 11

Ye what he said lol

[azure dune]

lol

[cosmic relic]

i dont have good ram for windows 11

[azure dune]

well i have ubuntu and its fine really

[cosmic relic]

i want something that uses less ram

[azure dune]

easy to use

[cosmic relic]

okay thank you

[chrome tree]

And you can even game on it if you set it up right

Cyberpunk has been running surpringsly smooth, though I toned it down to high

[jagged storm]

Windows 11 is still at 4GB. Ubuntu raised to 6GB the other day.

[azure dune]

Wait you gaming on Ubuntu?

[chrome tree]

Ye lol

[azure dune]

i didint even know you could do that lol

[jagged storm]

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/ubunto-linux-raises-minimum-system-requirements-to-6gb-of-ram-it-was-previously-raised-from-1gb-to-4gb-in-2018

[chrome tree]

I was just looking it up.... well damn

When did they optimize? W11, that is

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-vader-star-wars-thumbs-up-thumb-gif-18386491463551999513

[azure dune]

And i just switched my laptop to ubuntu because of ram well damn

[broken flame]

Debian chads will rise

[chrome tree]

I'm still going to use it, cause I have more than enough. I mean when I idle I'm around 2-3gb

[rugged dune]

F sakes can't sleep

[glad crystal]

"Do not doubt me again" just raises red flags for me.

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

Living up to my name.

[latent oak]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-chad-arch-arch-linux-chad-user-gif-21904978

[jagged storm]

I mean, to be fair, Microsoft lies about that. You can maybe run W11 with 4gb, but it won't be a fun time

[chrome tree]

That's for 26.04! LOL That's running wayland. I'm still on x11

24.04

[broken flame]

Did they ever get rid of ubuntu amazon bloatware spyware on gui version

[chrome tree]

I have until 2029 then I have to upgrade

[glad crystal]

He said the quiet part out loud

4GB on Windows = good luck

Need another 12 just to open chrome.

[azure dune]

true

[jagged storm]

But 6gb is still usable on win11, which is where Ubuntu is up to

[cosmic relic]

wait what browser do you guys use?

[glad crystal]

Not chrome

[broken flame]

Ff

[azure dune]

firefox

[cosmic relic]

me too

[jagged storm]

Or you can just use debian with i3, and get by with almost nothing

[proper dragon]

I use redstar os btw

[latent oak]

curl

[jagged storm]

https://tenor.com/view/debian-penguinbyte-arch-linux-winner-gif-15851855656801001960

[chrome tree]

Ye, I'm just saying tho. I hate the wayland switch. Broke so much of my stuff and can't use vmware with fedora kde. It breaks the clipboard and then plasma shell

[glad crystal]

Debian is for poor folk

[sharp shuttle]

good thing i use macOS

peasant squabbles

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/dol-huh-eyes-disgusted-gif-11690827820922534530

[broken flame]

Worst bait

[azure dune]

my god

[sharp shuttle]

its not even a bait lol

[chrome tree]

Sit in your corner and eat your apple quietly sir.

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/macbook-trash-apple-garbage-gif-8067551739652153057

[azure dune]

true

[broken flame]

Saved

[sharp shuttle]

sorry i couldnt hear you i was spinning an apple in my head while using windows 11 and debian and ubuntu at the same on my macbook air

[latent oak]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-grand-big-mac-big-mac-fast-food-burger-gif-18132235186741153918

[chrome tree]

You try zen?

[glad crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/random-get-away-leave-me-alone-get-outta-here-gif-17872308

Get that propriety shit out of here

[sharp shuttle]

your stuff is just as proprietary now

[azure dune]

nah whats that?

[glad crystal]

Yeah, my laptop is but I kicked windows off of it.

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jealousy-GnFBKXaMJ1wYM

[sharp shuttle]

that hp omens bios is riddled with spyware still

[chrome tree]

Firefox fork essentially. Different UI and extension store, but can still use the OG firefox extension market

[azure dune]

impossible

[glad crystal]

I know

[broken flame]

Perfect setup: thinkpad with fedora and VM kali

[glad crystal]

And the SMC.bin utility was deprecated

[sharp shuttle]

Not shitting your hardware but man HP is malicious

[glad crystal]

I reported HP to the attorney General

[latent oak]

Just run kali

[azure dune]

interesting

Hp is not bad, right?

[glad crystal]

Gave them a bunch of evidence of cybersecurity benchmark failures with checksums included for chain of Custody

[chrome tree]

Daily driving a pentesting distro

[sharp shuttle]

I did a pentest on aruba equipment and it was a treasure trove of spyware in those iot products

[chrome tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tommy-lee-jones-gary-busey-under-siege-O62idzzWt6wIU

[sharp shuttle]

(hp owns aruba)

[broken flame]

All laptops are terrible now because everything is soldered together. everything