general

[crisp steppe]

i honestly think apple will do really really good

[wooden dust]

lol I agree

[crisp steppe]

this is like their smartest move in years 😢

[wooden dust]

Apple laptop performance is already good

But it doesn’t support good gaming.

That’s the only downside

And not upgradable lol

MacBook are for rich people

[crisp steppe]

i thought it was just a normal OS and integrated with like the apple store

[crisp steppe]

not upgradable?

like hardware wise?

[wooden dust]

I mean Razer making their 2025 model laptop soldered ram too

[crisp steppe]

ohhh 😭 sorry i thought you meant something else

[crisp steppe]

i see.. [soldered ram is genuinely evil]

[wooden dust]

And the MacOS edition lifespan is short too

Some old Mac can’t even run newest macOS

[crisp steppe]

aw :<

[lofty warren]

[rapid badger]

[rare laurel]

Hello, guys, i'm right now studying on cyber security in university, but i also wantet to start it from my own. From where i should start, what should learn and is there any goox roadmap to use

[wooden dust]

Ultra book with soldered ram are very common. Omen 13, Alienware X14

[crisp steppe]

start with the OSEE it's a pretty junior level cert

[rapid badger]

only semi-excusable case. I am a victim

[eternal mango]

It is not.

[rapid badger]

apple ram prices not so bad nowdays LOL

used to be comical

[wooden dust]

lol idk cyber security has many role, depends which one you like. Well I quit, bc my life I need to touch grass, I’m not gonna be too teky so my answer are not accrue.

[crisp steppe]

-# SHHHH

-# they dont have to know 😭

[eternal mango]

If you're only here to troll, well.. good luck

[crisp steppe]

sorry 😔

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/ghostedvpn-hacker-cat-bongo-cat-keyboard-cat-hacker-gif-4373606555250453292

[muted olive]

https://tenor.com/bQTHO.gif

[muted olive]

me

I set my terminal color to green and am now tired of it

[maiden anvil]

I'm reasonably untilted now

IMO you should follow your heart, no matter how strange the cert may be

I think I would regret not doing the weird ones if I had to go back and choose again

[silver forge]

the contrast is too high for human eyes. it's really bad usability.

[muted olive]

Now I can't figure out how to change it back to white 🥲

I mean, I can, but it resets every new shell back to green

[crisp steppe]

what os are you using?

and did you use a command to set it to green in the first place?

[maiden anvil]

FWIW IMO:

1. learn how to build a PC and how all the parts work/what they do
2. play around in cmd and terminal for a little bit, even if it's weird and you dunno what to do. try to list files to start
3. look into the OSI model next, maybe just stick with 1 or 2 major/most popular protocols per layer
4. start HTB or THM labs, I think 1-3 will give you a good starting point to start having fun

[muted olive]

windows

and yes

I think that was long ago, though

[crisp steppe]

it could've been a persistent registry tweak 😔

[terse dirge]

there is no set roadmap for cyber. Learn the fundamentals and find a specialization

[crisp steppe]

i think you would have to dig deep

but it could just be some dumb glitch

i'm not sure

[silver forge]

everyone got to learn to meme tho

[terse dirge]

yes

[sturdy thistle]

My best tulip attempt so far

[crisp steppe]

its so pretty I love it :D

[hollow kayak]

Guys cant i upload any media and images in #health-fitness ?

[terse dirge]

I am a coding machine tonight chat

[hollow kayak]

Which language do use to code?

[terse dirge]

go

[muted olive]

@warped plank

[hollow kayak]

Nice i am thinking of learning bash scripting

[crisp steppe]

you definetely should

i know a good bit about it, it's super useful

[hollow kayak]

U have any prior expirence kn that

[warped plank]

noice

[crisp steppe]

it can do a lot more than you think 🔥

[hollow kayak]

Cool

I specifically wanna focus on writing my own custom scripts

[lofty warren]

[hollow kayak]

Like combining reverse tcp with launching an application and stuff like this.

[crisp steppe]

that sounds awesome

[sturdy thistle]

far away from good but i get to it

[hollow kayak]

U ever used a usb rubber ducky before?

Does some cool things literally

[crisp steppe]

?

[hollow kayak]

Huh?

[eternal mango]

My coffee never lasts long enough to have a pattern

[sturdy thistle]

My latte art

Mine neither

[eternal mango]

(good morning)

[sturdy thistle]

Good morning

Im awake since 2 am ish

[silver forge]

waiting for the caffeine to kick in 💥

[eternal mango]

I've not slept

Coming off of previous meds

Brain gone funky, going on to new ones today

At least it means no throwing up after eveyr meal finally 🤣

[silver forge]

side effects of the brain implant

[crisp steppe]

c'mon guys sleep is important 😔

[eternal mango]

It is

[eternal mango]

They had to work hard to scoop out enough to fit the second one in there

[silver forge]

maybe they replaced it entirely

[eternal mango]

Maybe

Ship of Theseus style

[sturdy thistle]

well time to start work a bit earlier

[terse dirge]

It's not that important. Just drink more caffeine

[eternal mango]

[crisp steppe]

😟 i dunno about that

[sturdy thistle]

buy 1k espresso machine

and you never sleep again

[silver forge]

my alarm was set at 06:00, and I had been up drinking coffee and reading news for 15+ minutes until I noticed I'm an hour early for everything

[eternal mango]

Just one?

(this is general.. serious discussion is taboo, most of the time)

[eternal mango]

Time is a proper bastard sometimes

[sturdy thistle]

I mean you can buy one that costs 5k+

[eternal mango]

Yes, daughter and I were looking at them the other day. She wanted one that would make hot chocolate too

[sturdy thistle]

yeah you can

[eternal mango]

...but she only likes the freeze dried stuff

Anything more is too strong

🤣

I got excited for a moment at having actual proper coffee at home again

[hollow kayak]

U talking about buying coffee for 5k?

[sturdy thistle]

machine

[eternal mango]

Some machines cost even more.

[sturdy thistle]

yeah true

[eternal mango]

Like.. house deposit amount

It's mental

[meager kernel]

Chat has many yellow roles

[hollow kayak]

Oh
What kinda machine?

[sturdy thistle]

but grinder is more important

i for exmplae have the lelit elizabeth

and varia vs 3 grinder

[silver forge]

I was traveling last week. I hate to travel, it takes me hours to get out of the door

[eternal mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/editingandlayout-NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y

(I have no idea what that is)

[sturdy thistle]

u acknowlede it

[hollow kayak]

Not a “travel-buddy” really yeah?

[eternal mango]

I'm here with Nespresso

[sturdy thistle]

i bet i can convience you one day

[eternal mango]

..although I'm not, because it's in the garage somewhere

[meager kernel]

@eternal mango i was solving a machine yesterday with my team and I feel like I suck at hacking 😭😭
How do I get good man, Im genuinely not good

[hollow kayak]

Where are you stuck?

Exaxtly?

Like in which part?

[eternal mango]

Persistence, stubborn refusal, and repetition

[meager kernel]

AirTouch machine

[eternal mango]

I suck too

[meager kernel]

I tried Fortress too for fun

[eternal mango]

I'm out of practice to the max

[hollow kayak]

[meager kernel]

But couldn't do that too

[crisp steppe]

what was the machine on?

[eternal mango]

That's an active machine, so take the discussion to DM eh

[meager kernel]

It was on Wifi pentesting

[meager kernel]

Nah not discussing it here

[meager kernel]

💔

[eternal mango]

You just did lol

[crisp steppe]

oh 😔

[eternal mango]

Anyway whatever

[silver forge]

I'm ok with trains. Trains are chill.

[hollow kayak]

Ohh

[eternal mango]

Seriously though, takes time like any other skill 22Kratos

[meager kernel]

I wish i get good

[hollow kayak]

Me too

[crisp steppe]

we believe in you dude :D

[eternal mango]

One day you will look at what you're doing, and go.. damn

[hollow kayak]

Especially if you are on a hilly terrain.

[eternal mango]

I did that

[meager kernel]

Hopefully someday

[eternal mango]

A certainty, if you stick with it 🙂

[hollow kayak]

Guys btw if i change my email to my academic email will i be able to student sub then?

[eternal mango]

https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/7973133-getting-the-student-subscription

[hollow kayak]

Thanks

[eternal mango]

It depends

[silver forge]

also it seems, looking at this morning's news, that trains function better when they stay on the rails

[eternal mango]

uhoh

Oh damn 🙁

[silver forge]

it's always a really bad sign several news papers cite entirely different death toll numbers

[hollow kayak]

Ofc bro

Btw has anyone watched mr robot here?

[eternal mango]

Only season 1

[crisp steppe]

i've only heard it while 'professionals' were talking about 'script kiddies' 😭 😭

i have no clue

[hollow kayak]

Oh
Really love the way how elliot and darlene partner up and pawn the corpo guy

[hollow kayak]

U should try eps really gives a good adrenaline boost

[eternal mango]

Spoiler tags?

lol

[silver forge]

I think the series captures the culture (both hacking and corpo) well, but the hacking not so much

[crisp steppe]

eps?

[eternal mango]

I think I enjoyed it, but only watched it once tbh

[hollow kayak]

Episodes

[crisp steppe]

ohh i see

[eternal mango]

Never took the time to carry on with the rest of it

Guess I'm not leet 🙁

[crisp steppe]

why'd you stop watching 🤔

[eternal mango]

Dunno, didn't interest me enough to keep watching I guess

[silver forge]

the rest of the seasons stuff snowballs. some of the magic of the 1st season vanes, but also there's more chaos which can be entertaining

[eternal mango]

Fair enough

Maybe I'll put it on the list

Still not watched last season of Game of Thrones

and refuse to

ever.

[silver forge]

that new starfleet academy series is definitely on my list

[eternal mango]

ooo didn't know about that

[silver forge]

they have a captain that abuses the captain's chair

[eternal mango]

Poor chair

[silver forge]

she like... slumps on it. sideways usually.

[eternal mango]

So.. like Riker on the night shift with the consoles

[silver forge]

idk how to describe it, I want to see it

[eternal mango]

Oh, someone is working here.. LET ME PITCH MY LEG UP RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR FACE

[hollow kayak]

Guys how do i navigate to the page where i have to create a ticket to register my academic email?

[eternal mango]

The green icon in the bottom right

[silver forge]

I was listening to the soundtrack last night, and apparently in that new starfleet series they sing.. it's not a musical, but there's couple songs definitely

[hollow kayak]

Yep got it thanks

[silver forge]

about the last season of the game of thrones... I thought it was ok. they just had to close the series abruptly, and it had nothing to do with the first seasons. but as itself it's ok entertainment.

[muted olive]

LMAO real

I think he had a back problem or something?

[eternal mango]

He just loved to air himself near the crew

Poor crew

Must've been something he did off cuff during first appearances

and they just went... yeah, keep doing that

[muted olive]

Its this

[eternal mango]

Wonder how many times he split the uniform by over reaching lol

[muted olive]

he had a real back problem

[eternal mango]

Ohhh the actor

[muted olive]

remember seeing it in some facebook post

[eternal mango]

Hah damn

Didn't know that

[muted olive]

yeah, interesting facts

[eternal mango]

Thought there was some back injury arc I'd forgotten 🤣

[muted olive]

I like brent spiner's acting, above all

I don't know how he kept a straight face in any of the episodes

[eternal mango]

Legend.

[hollow kayak]

Guys i created the ticket for student sub now how long does it take to update my sub?

[eternal mango]

What about Matt Frewer

FREAKING MAX HEADROOM

[muted olive]

Uhhhh dont remember

Who is he?

[eternal mango]

Some time traveler in one episode

[muted olive]

OHH that time traveler guy?

yeah he was good

[eternal mango]

aye the scam artist

[muted olive]

no wait which one

ah the scam one

not the one who called wesley mozart

[muted olive]

yup, remember him now lol

[hollow kayak]

??

[muted olive]

I like that other guy

[eternal mango]

Support will respond to you as soon as they can.

[muted olive]

That... original time traveller, but his master or whatever

[silver forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdf4duQeNM

[muted olive]

Or the guy who was SUPPOSED to be the master but didnt know shit

during that warp test

[hollow kayak]

Kinda looks like gary nickekson.

[hollow kayak]

Ok

[eternal mango]

Don't we all bud

Don't we all

[muted olive]

lol

thats the kidnapping geordi episode right

[eternal mango]

One of them 😄

[real vault]

yeah it is

[eternal mango]

Barclay is awesome too.

[muted olive]

that other one was peak

[eternal mango]

❤️ STNG

[muted olive]

where he gets kidnapped by someone and erased his memory or something

and implanted something into his brain

who was it?

[eternal mango]

That's the one

No wait

[muted olive]

ah yes

[eternal mango]

Romulans?

[muted olive]

yeah roumlans

[real vault]

I thought it was Romulans

[muted olive]

roamulans

[eternal mango]

Yeah Rumulans

[muted olive]

romulans

fuck

lol

[real vault]

lol

[eternal mango]

lol rumulans 🤣

https://giphy.com/gifs/lol-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-11tdsyM4aWo8dq

[real vault]

alcoholic romulans

[hollow kayak]

🤣🤣

[muted olive]

that one where troi becomes a romulan is also good

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-gowron-nod-yes-honor-gif-16468287

[real vault]

They did that on DS9 where Kira became Cardassian

https://tenor.com/view/startrek-gowron-honor-glory-to-you-commend-gif-4637733

[eternal mango]

JFC I hope nobody cares about watching Star Trek epic episodes for the first time

Because we burning all the bridges

https://giphy.com/gifs/69rOXF4YTDVDD6cwkt

[muted olive]

I only watched TNG and maybe Picard in the future

honestly DS9 isnt my thing

[muted olive]

chain of command, part 2, season 6

I remember mostly all of them

[eternal mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo

[muted olive]

LOLL

[real vault]

I want to see how they do with Starfleet Academy

[muted olive]

yeah, my fucking favorite picard moment

[eternal mango]

you'll have to call again

[real vault]

Shaka as the walls fell?

[eternal mango]

Damn it Shaka

Always with the walls

Great episode

[muted olive]

Temba his arms raised

or whatever

[real vault]

Darmak and Jalad

[muted olive]

yeah

[real vault]

Those bitches

[muted olive]

jalad on the island

I forgot the name of that episode

[real vault]

Darmak and Jalad at Tanagra

[muted olive]

I remember it though

YES, tanagra

the beast of tanagra

[real vault]

Man, if only I could code in Klingon

[muted olive]

Q episodes were the funniest

[eternal mango]

Sokath, his eyes open

God damn

I need to start watching that for the 7,392th time

[real vault]

Sokath is SG-1

Wait that's Sokar

never mind

[eternal mango]

aye sokar

[real vault]

Crossed the Streams there.

[muted olive]

I have two USBs filled with six seasons 🤣

[eternal mango]

The bald baby in uniform

[muted olive]

seventh one I dont have unfortunately

[eternal mango]

Worst of the enemies SG1 faced lol

He was just.. come on

[real vault]

I am doing a rewatch, and I'm on DS9 right now.

[muted olive]

seventh season is my favorite though, peak episodes, it was on netflix for a while

phantasms, eye of the beholder, dark page

peakest episodes

ever

[eternal mango]

Nerding so hard right now

Nerds fucking rule

[silver forge]

me and a buddy once watched all star trek movies. without pauses. back then it took almost 30 hours non-stop. all the movies melded together, couldn't tell where one ended and the next one started. it was fun.

[eternal mango]

Daaaaaamn

[muted olive]

I just watched one star trek movie and that might have been the first one

about kirk

[eternal mango]

Were quite a few from the first show with Kirk

Like

[muted olive]

I legit forgot the dude's first name lol 💀

[eternal mango]

5?

6?

[silver forge]

that narrows it down to 5 or so, yes

[eternal mango]

Then he came back in Generations for a moment

Then alternate timeline kirk

🤣

God they've gone off the rails

but I still enjoy it

[muted olive]

alternate timeline 👀

[silver forge]

and then there's the JJ Abrams re-incarnation with the best movie opening scene out of all the movies. all you have to watch is that first 3-5 minutes. the rest of the movie pales in comparison.

[eternal mango]

Yeah, the newer Star Trek films

[muted olive]

Yeah, never seen those

any borg in them?

[eternal mango]

They follow an alternate timeline from the original series

Uhhhhh

[muted olive]

Oh I see, interesting

[eternal mango]

Actually, in the films I don't think so

But elsewhere, yes

[muted olive]

:(

borg is my fav species

[eternal mango]

Watch Picard

[muted olive]

I will

[eternal mango]

Underrated series

[muted olive]

@eternal mango have you seen that TNG episode where Worf is jumping between timelines?

that was one of my fav

[jade cove]

Ive never seen star trek, is that bad

[eternal mango]

Hahah yes, I've seen all of them, so many times over

[muted olive]

movies? idk, i've seen one and it was good

[eternal mango]

Would love to see Star Trek for the first time again

[silver forge]

hmm I think I have liked Star Trek: Enterprise the most. the characters were likeable.

[muted olive]

I've been watching since I was like... 10 🤣

[eternal mango]

But you do you 🙂

[eternal mango]

I remember liking it

...but I absolutely cannot stand it now

Like.. I'd prefer to watch Andromeda over it

But each to their own

[jade cove]

Thats me but with star wars

[muted olive]

nah see

star TREK is fine

star wars is overrated

[eternal mango]

uh oh

We're gonna have a star war

[silver forge]

after watching the news anchor tv series it's hard to rewatch the Enterprise though

[muted olive]

and basically chewing gum atp

[eternal mango]

RUN

[jade cove]

Aint no way u said that

[muted olive]

like star wars is nice for the first six movies

[jade cove]

One of the best movie series

[muted olive]

after that, nope

[muted olive]

oh I agree... for the first 6

[jade cove]

Ahh so u hate the new ones?

[muted olive]

yup

[eternal mango]

Babylon 5

[muted olive]

everything from force awakens and after

[eternal mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/guy-aliens-gifamerica-AwrtP9lMXtXiM

[muted olive]

tbh force awakens wasnt bad

it was fine

[jade cove]

I dont mind them. They aint as good as the first 6 but not bad at all

[silver forge]

oh Babylon 5 is like pilgrimage for me. done that ~5 times.

[eternal mango]

Farscape probably my top

[muted olive]

Tbh

[eternal mango]

Was very invested in that, so much that I spent weeks downloading the last season because I missed it

[muted olive]

They should make a series about each of the characters not just Picard

I would love to watch a series about Data

[eternal mango]

over 56k, DCC on IRC

[muted olive]

lol

[eternal mango]

Spoof it up

"The Sung Boys"

[muted olive]

Data vibe coding in 2026

🤣

[eternal mango]

Data and Lore just messing shit up

[muted olive]

YEahhohh

Yeah Lore

What happened to him?

iirc he was deactivated permanently or something?

[eternal mango]

Very much dismantled

[muted olive]

or I might be remembering wrong

I dont remember how

[eternal mango]

Then in space

Then with the borg

Then deactivated

I can't honestly remember his final fate

[muted olive]

he was with those awareness borgs

then he captured data

[eternal mango]

yup

[muted olive]

that was Descent: part 1 and 2

after that.... dont remember

I dont remember how Descent ended actually

time to wikipedia

[eternal mango]

hehe

[silver forge]

I so much wish someone re-filmed Babylon 5 using modern cameras, visual effects, sound design. But sadly, over half of the main actors are dead now, and there's little commercial interest.

[eternal mango]

Oh damn that was it

Ok not saying anything

[silver forge]

The reason I love Babylon 5 is that they mixed emotions, just like real humane characters would.

[eternal mango]

lol

[silver forge]

For example, the centauri opera scene.

[eternal mango]

G'Kar was the man

[silver forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXPWtZBI3xA

That's just immaculate

and I have no idea how those two actors didn't just burst into giggling every single scene

[eternal mango]

😄

Bet that took a few takes

[muted olive]

I have no idea how brent spiner didn't do this for the entire TNG series

like.. I would've done that

if you had asked me to play an emotionless android

I would've laughed all the time

[silver forge]

he probably did between the takes

[eternal mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-star-trek-data-wHBkzKahBgFEM1S4GE

Parting gift 😄

Now Q

I almost want more

..but it'd ruin it

[austere sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/guyver-guyver-live-action-mobilidade-máxima-tokusatsu-ajeitando-a-calcinha-gif-26362158

You guys recognise that?

[eternal mango]

So that's not your webcam

Don't think I do tbh

What is it?

[muted olive]

Except this

[austere sigil]

You know the guy with blades coming out of his elbows

Guyver

[eternal mango]

The guy WITHOUT blades?

[mystic harbor]

[eternal mango]

I'm so confused

[austere sigil]

With with

[eternal mango]

hahah

[austere sigil]

I’m on mobile

[eternal mango]

I don't think I've ever seen that

[austere sigil]

Go watch this gem from my childhood

[eternal mango]

I've added it to the list

[warped plank]

https://tenor.com/view/guyver-guyver-trasform-gif-20296395

[eternal mango]

Here's one in return @austere sigil 🤣 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080058/

[austere sigil]

That’s the one

[eternal mango]

(can't remember where we got it from, but had it on VHS as a kid)

It's so, so.. SO bad that it's good

[snow wraith]

[austere sigil]

So is guyver and it’s all could wish for

[warped plank]

I find it funny I've seen both of these since one of my passions is VFX and these two movies have fun special effects

[eternal mango]

Hell yeah

[mystic harbor]

[eternal mango]

That is NOT Star Wars.

[austere sigil]

Looks great 👌

[eternal mango]

...and that's... not.. Darth Vader..

[warped plank]

Finding every excuse to use my VFX chops I made battle maps for a TTRPG

and then made a fake blueprint for the planning phase

[eternal mango]

Nice 🙂

[austere sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-movies-rule-bmr-masters-of-the-universe-movie-cosmic-key-fiddling-with-device-gif-2326237081089740575

[eternal mango]

YASSS

Freaking Masters of the Universe

https://giphy.com/gifs/i-made-this-the-dark-crystal-fizzgig-CUFjd7IbtTo5O

[austere sigil]

Oh god yaaaas

[eternal mango]

Fizzgig is my spirit animal

[austere sigil]

Spitermen

[muted olive]

FBI darth vader

this reminds me of that elsagate shit lol

[austere sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-gif-25077998

[eternal mango]

No

NO

[austere sigil]

That scene messed me up

[eternal mango]

Artax 😢

[muted olive]

you guys ever noticed the search quirk thing in Youtube?

[austere sigil]

No?

[muted olive]

Where you search "."

[austere sigil]

Looking for webdriver torso?

[molten oar]

where at?

[muted olive]

not that

[mystic harbor]

I don't search

YouTube search me

[molten oar]

what do you do

[mystic harbor]

[molten oar]

that is clutch lol

[meager kernel]

I did and Youtube told me to seek mental help

[mystic harbor]

[scenic maple]

this is why we will run out of water

[flint copper]

don't see any of you using your skills to stop it

Guess our water is doomed for

[terse dirge]

don't need to

[native plume]

I just hope that no one uses it, I don't want to deal with yet another broken CSS for a specific browser

[terse dirge]

AI glazers are the most self destructive people around

[dusky jacinth]

too late

[native plume]

Dang

[dusky jacinth]

it's all written in cobalt

fuck you

I wrote it on a punch card

[native plume]

Lmao

[terse dirge]

[native plume]

Vibe coded banking systems when

[warped plank]

vibe coded network protocols when

[terse dirge]

that's called kerberos

[native plume]

Secure Vibe Packet 🔥

Let's do it in one project

The vibe coded banking system that uses vibe coded network protocols 💀

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-mess-dgd-dance-gavin-dance-straight-from-the-heart-mess-gif-11527224815213429619

[warped plank]

[terse dirge]

made some additions to my EDR and SIEM I still need to test them tho

I really should blog my journey with this tbh

I was told I should do a blog on the malware I investigated and ended up uncovering a cloudflare tunnel from it but I don't really think it'd be that interesting

[green kite]

hello chat

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[green kite]

hows it goin

[terse dirge]

I'm chillin, how about you?

[green kite]

i am okay 🙂

[supple plume]

Good morning

[scenic maple]

what a day

[green kite]

sup echoes

[supple plume]

Hey!

[scenic maple]

sup

[green kite]

I need another weekend to recover from the previous one

[supple plume]

I was thinking something similar

[terse dirge]

still waiting on a reply from that job, I had to reapply through their system last week lol

the first time I applied it wasn't through their system

[scenic maple]

fingers crossed

[terse dirge]

Yessir!

[green kite]

I hope you get it

[terse dirge]

Thanks. It'll be my first cyber job

[green kite]

🔥

[supple plume]

Life is temporary

[green kite]

yep

[gray wraith]

Good luck bro

[gray wraith]

Considering the people investing in and the amount of money thats getting rolled, it could be actually dangerous

[flint copper]

you mean the models being dangerous?

[stable tiger]

chat

@undone fossil i love when my tools dont get deleted by windows defender now

life is great

[sturdy thistle]

What have done

[stable tiger]

when my host os was windows any of my malware development tools would get deleted by defender

which is ironic given it cant detect any of my payloads

[sturdy thistle]

Oh yeah

You switched right

[stable tiger]

yup

i ran arch for years so its not really a big change

[sturdy thistle]

Nice

Gym now

[stable tiger]

i just ate my preworkout meal twin

[terse dirge]

Try void Linux. It's better than arch

[stable tiger]

no

[terse dirge]

Its more bleeding edge and stable

[stable tiger]

tell me why windows 10 doesnt have the gpo for copilot disable

[stable tiger]

gaming

[terse dirge]

Because skill issue

[terse dirge]

Why not fedora then?

[stable tiger]

AUR

[terse dirge]

Fedora has good AMD support by the looks of it

[stable tiger]

i have an intel cpu

[terse dirge]

I mean I'm on Manjaro for gaming and it's kinda mid

[stable tiger]

use the cachy kernel

[terse dirge]

Nah. I like Manjaro.

[stable tiger]

now i need to swap mullvad servers

[stable tiger]

u can use cachy repos on manjaro

just use their kernel

[sturdy thistle]

Why

[stable tiger]

look at the screenshot

[sturdy thistle]

Loool

[terse dirge]

Nah I like being a bit of a rebel and not using what's considered "cool and popular"

[sturdy thistle]

And now you tell me warlock isn’t your real name or

[stable tiger]

deleting the ss cos it has my firstname on a drive as if my github isnt on my linkedin

😭

[stable tiger]

idk i gamed on manjaro

its solid

its just easy arch

thank god i got a beefy pc

my windows vm is so fast ❤️

[undone fossil]

W

[stable tiger]

Real shit

[undone fossil]

I can’t remember what I did but I broke my windows defender somehow

Not fully disabled, it can still scan but it can’t respond

[terse dirge]

Wine and mono > using w*ndows

[undone fossil]

It just alerts and then doesn’t do shit lmao

[stable tiger]

maldev

[stable tiger]

I thinkt the IoT versions are generally cooked when it comes to defender cos of the subsystem shit

[undone fossil]

Tru

[terse dirge]

My bad I meant mingw not mono

[undone fossil]

Wine is nice but it’s not perfect sadly :(

[stable tiger]

no i use msvc so i can type %d instead of %lu even if im passing a dword

[undone fossil]

Good enough for shitty shellcode loaders though

[stable tiger]

the lion does not care for string format vulnerabilities

[stable tiger]

Indeed

[undone fossil]

MSVC

[stable tiger]

intel compiler 🔜

[undone fossil]

My man enjoys being able to concatenate __FUNCTION__ inline

[terse dirge]

Mingw is amazing for cross compilation tbh. Unless you're trying to make stuff like drivers then it sucks ass

[stable tiger]

some microsoft headers fucking die when using the intel compiler

cos microsoft uses %d when passing dwords on shit

and it does not like that

[undone fossil]

True lol

[stable tiger]

the lion cba devving and the drag and dropping onto a vm

the lion devs in the vm

[terse dirge]

@undone fossil you should try writing a god potato poc in pure golang

[undone fossil]

Nah I’m good I hate writing golang

Purely a syntax dislike

(Also trauma from reversing it)

[terse dirge]

[sturdy thistle]

Traumatized

[stable tiger]

REAL

i have ida plugins for rust reversing 💔

[terse dirge]

Try zig. It's based af

[stable tiger]

next you'll reccomend Nim and i'll hunt you down

[undone fossil]

Fan of zig but I want it to hit 1.0

[stable tiger]

ill never understand the windows 11 ui changes

10 is so much cleaner

[terse dirge]

Nim is neat but I used it for like 3 hours and couldn't decrypt windows hives and it annoyed me lmao

[undone fossil]

This is why nim was almost killed in 2023 lol

[terse dirge]

https://ceald.cc/posts/malware101/#example I tried messing with zig a bit and learning mal dev

[undone fossil]

“Red team community” saw nim and started using it for maldev because “OMG DIFFERENT STATIC SIGNATURES” (idk what a behavioural signature is )

[terse dirge]

I kinda stopped learning it because I realized that a lot of malware samples are just copied and pasted a bunch of the time

[stable tiger]

its just iocs

[undone fossil]

Then the nim installer got flagged by AV, and the front page of nim begged you not to write malware

[warped plank]

istg the moment an APT unironically uses nim for their home grown C2s I'mma quit

[gray wraith]

My trimmer battery ran out when I was about to shave my stache off.. id take it as a sign if it didnt look like a 15yolds one

[stable tiger]

WE MUST WRITE OUR OWN COBALT STRIKE LOADERS BUT WE DONT WANT TO DO IT IN ANY LANGUAGE OTHER THAN NIM OUR TIME IS COMPANY TIME!!1111

[sturdy thistle]

Ok

[undone fossil]

Like any other lang nim isn’t the issue, it’s the reason they’d choose said language that matters

I hate that infotards chose to use it to avoid static signatures when that’s not really the problem anyways?

[stable tiger]

spoiler its to avoid writing C or Rust

[terse dirge]

C is for boomers!! 🔥 Rust is for Java devs that think they're like C devs! 🔥

[undone fossil]

Some folk have done decent stuff with it: https://github.com/byt3bl33d3r/OffensiveNim

Rust is for people who never wanna finish or maintain a project

[stable tiger]

or ransomware devs

copilot removal failure

[undone fossil]

dont forgor to add copilot.microsoft.com to ur etc hosts

[stable tiger]

🚄

imagine your entire business is now based on a chatgpt reskin

microslop moment

[warped plank]

https://tenor.com/view/jmont-sopranos-gif-25129312

*looks at my projects folder where none are completed but all are Rust*

Nevermind carry on

[undone fossil]

now the question is, do we do a lil vc

[stable tiger]

the duality of a man having pe bear and cff explorer both installed

[undone fossil]

never used pe bear somehow

[warped plank]

My issue with Rust projects is that I just get exhausted fighting the compiler only to have an abomination I can't understand after

[undone fossil]

That's one of my biggest hates with rust for the majority of users

Could say similar about C++ however C++ will let you do whatever you want

[stable tiger]

yo my audio ISNT shit

lets goo

[undone fossil]

no way

donbeleefit

[warped plank]

Yeah I really should just understand good code practices... but that thing is so useful: .unwrap()

[undone fossil]

maybe study rust programming patterns

[muted olive]

rust sucks

[undone fossil]

something might take your fancy

[muted olive]

its too secure

[undone fossil]

im not a fan of the lang but sure if you're cracked then it's good but

i just think its sad a language requires you to to be an expert to get proper value

[muted olive]

too rusty

[terse dirge]

Rust's typing is an abomination in itself

[sturdy thistle]

Where the heck is @austere sinew

[undone fossil]

like most people who are learning rust, could honestly just use golang or C# and be far more productive

[warped plank]

Funnily enough those cracked at it are also those that use unsafe cos they actually know what they're doing,

[undone fossil]

yeah because all unsafe does is allow interaction with raw pointers

[stable tiger]

bro

im sitting here googling arch fixes for my blue yeti

ts was muted

[stable tiger]

bars

[sturdy thistle]

Gym is fun when you slept 1 hour

[undone fossil]

so real

[warped plank]

Tf you talking about? Heckin love Rust's type system, especially Generic Types

[stable tiger]

i benched 120 for 8 on 48 hours no sleep

you'll survive

[undone fossil]

Okay as much as im a rust hater

it does do "proper" generics

which is baller

[stable tiger]

:=

flashbang

[undone fossil]

@terse dirge idea

every time you push a new minor release for your project

[warped plank]

Rust's Generic Types can run circles on all the object oriented languages, class who? I use struct and impl

[undone fossil]

can you make the architecture diagram more shit ?

yeah guess what homie

typedef struct _rustsucks {
    _rustsucks* this;
    _rustsucks rustsucks_init();
} rustsucks, *prustsucks;

yes i wrote that just so i could write rustsucks_init()

[warped plank]

Not even using references or smart pointers, L rustacean

[undone fossil]

this is C soz

[obtuse fern]

Why are you so british, -500 aura

[warped plank]

I know

[undone fossil]

discord mod, cant fit the negative aura number in a nitro message

[obtuse fern]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[muted olive]

so I am confused

how does C differ from rust

[undone fossil]

simple

[muted olive]

they both look the same

[undone fossil]

it arrived 10000 years before

and is better

:3

[stable tiger]

yup

[muted olive]

https://tenor.com/okXhBcNILCa.gif

[undone fossil]

thanks to our beloved goat mr dennis ritchie

[stable tiger]

i want the world to stop using rust for job security

[warped plank]

Better at getting segfaults and UAFs

[undone fossil]

imagine being such a goat you write both B and C on the PDP-11

[stable tiger]

real

[undone fossil]

and rust doesnt crash right

your code never panicked?

[stable tiger]

FUCK I SAVED THE WRONG KALI VM BEFORE I REINSTALLED MY OS

[undone fossil]

lmfao

[stable tiger]

EVERYTHING IS GONE

[warped plank]

It does if I tell it to

[terse dirge]

I'll make sure for the first real release the diagram will be made in MS Paint

[undone fossil]

same for C or C++

if i tell it to do stoopid stuff it does stoopid stuff

[warped plank]

It also does if you dont tell it to

[undone fossil]

Well no

its simple you just need 1400 keywords

C is ezpz C++ is just like

[muted olive]

really? :(

[undone fossil]

sadly gotta learn wtf is going on in the background with the features you use

[muted olive]

that is sad

because honestly

[terse dirge]

I'll make sure to mention in the commit that it was your suggestion/contribution

[muted olive]

50% of windows 0 days are memory safety issues

[undone fossil]

golden

[muted olive]

UAF or DoS or whatnot

[stable tiger]

dos is just being too shit to write rce

[warped plank]

Yeah once windows gets rewritten in Rust there will be one less memory bug

[muted olive]

NOOOOO

[stable tiger]

windows is never getting rewritten in rust

[muted olive]

not gonna happen

never ever ever

[undone fossil]

yeah and backwards compatibility will be gone

[muted olive]

I want it to be an insecure OS

forever

[undone fossil]

because lots of software depends on "quirks" that exist due to undefined behaviour

[muted olive]

happily ever after

[lofty warren]

[undone fossil]

and translating those into rust is gonna be a nightmare

[muted olive]

and that

[warped plank]

All the other memory bugs will still exist because the dev got pissed and put everything in an unsafe block

[stable tiger]

windows is just slop written over and over again adding shit all the way back from windows 95

to rewrite it in rust is writing a new OS

[muted olive]

istg

you take any driver in windows

reverse it

go two, maybe three levels down into sub call graphs

[stable tiger]

that is 100% what is going to happen with kernel vulns

[muted olive]

you'll find a memory bug

I promise

lol

[stable tiger]

usermode vulns wuld be harder to find than kernel atp

[muted olive]

usermode reaching kernel is more uncommon

kernel vulns are nice to find but not practical to exploit

[stable tiger]

tcp/ip driver

[undone fossil]

[[nodiscard]] std::optional<std::pair<size_t, size_t>> decode_length(std::span<const uint8_t> bytes) noexcept;

oh wait that's a bad example we need more

[stable tiger]

id rather write C# than C++

[undone fossil]

[[nodiscard]] static constexpr std::optional<Boolean> decode(const std::span<const uint8_t> bytes) noexcept

[stable tiger]

i hate you

[undone fossil]

its okay im not a smart pointer user yet

the project still has hope

[muted olive]

believe it or not... 👀

[stable tiger]

0day goldmine

[undone fossil]

the windows kernel is like a ctf exceprt the flags are pii and money

[muted olive]

I wouldnt call it a goldmine though 🤔
Its kind of... sort of hardened

[stable tiger]

i love having primarily community college certifications on my linkedin yet my connections are all red teamers i know from discord

[muted olive]

because microsoft keeps auditing all the time

[undone fossil]

lmfao similar

[muted olive]

plus theres like 4000 functions lol

[undone fossil]

true, ill give them that - it's decent and their mitigations are really ahead

[stable tiger]

its funny as fuck

local recruiter seeing nothing on my page but just see my connections

[undone fossil]

connect with me on linkedin

dox urself rn post it in general like a chad

[stable tiger]

ill dm you it in 2 weeks

i need to rep farm more connections

[undone fossil]

2 weeks?

oh

[stable tiger]

(begging my mates to add me)

[undone fossil]

thats fine i send u mine

[warped plank]

Tbf anything built in the 90s and is still in use today is gonna have massive vulns. See http 1.1

[muted olive]

send

[muted olive]

html

[stable tiger]

hey guys heres an out of bounds write on the function used to assign kernel security descriptors

[muted olive]

juicy

which driver?

also respect to whoever put that in a struct and took care of the naming convention and all that

I never bother

[novel oriole]

guys i have a small problem.. im unable to access htb labs section.. for some reason its sanctioned since day 1

even though i have a student subscription

do i need to provide my National identity/University student card?

[warped plank]

Htb labs doesnt have a student sub. It's only exclusive to academy

[novel oriole]

but why am i sanctioned?

[sturdy thistle]

reach out to support

[west lynx]

https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/5986762-contacting-htb-support

[novel oriole]

and the weird part... it is like this since day 1 of my account creation lol

[novel oriole]

ill look into that

[icy viper]

Are we allowed to talk about real world attacks here

[green kite]

as long as you're not the one doing them, I think it will be fine

[stable tiger]

cloud files

[icy viper]

Nah, just wondering if anyone heard about NZ's ransomware attack on a health app

Yeah the country that doesn't exist

And another question, do people prefer notion or obsidian?

[muted olive]

obsidian

[icy viper]

I tried both and obsidan works weirdly on linux but I can take notion anywhere

But obsidian UI is so much better

I created a new account because I keep forgetting to take notes as I go

[novel oriole]

quick question how much time did it take for u to reach the level where ur at rn from scratch?

[stable tiger]

joplin

[muted olive]

wdym

in htb?

[icy viper]

whats joplin

[upbeat drift]

Hello everyone, I have a question regarding the Role Paths and Exams. What is the main difference between CWES and CPTS and is the CWES enough knowledge to start some Bug Bountys ?

[stable tiger]

local note taking thats cross platform, works on linux and u can sync with other apps

[novel oriole]

yeah.. ur role states that ur a pro hacker which means ur atleast at a decent level rn

yea

[icy viper]

Dam that looks etter than both of them

[novel oriole]

from 0 in cyber sec to current level of urs

[stable tiger]

pretty much

[novel oriole]

how much time

?

[icy viper]

That looks so much better way mmore organised for someone as unorganised as me

[muted olive]

the HTB level didnt take that much time. I solved around 20 boxes or so

so maybe like... a month at max

[novel oriole]

i see

[icy viper]

I downloadede obsidian but when i clicked on it from the application list it never opened

[stable tiger]

learn:

pt 1:
networking
computer achitecture
Linux
WIndows
C
assembly

2:
pentesting (web exploitation, exisitng vuln discovery etc etc)

3:
Red team stuff (advanced tooling, writing your own tools malware, etc)

4:

Exploit development, Rootkit and bootkit development

that'll take like 5-10 years but hey you can go be a nationstate APT!

[icy viper]

So i went to notion

[muted olive]

best: notepad

[stable tiger]

real and true

[icy viper]

notepad++?

[devout sail]

Save notes in clipboard

[muted olive]

even better: physical notepad

[devout sail]

Clipboard history

[icy viper]

lie C+ but better

[novel oriole]

damn brooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[stable tiger]

or just take

info sec fundamentals and cpts path on hackthebox

[muted olive]

everyone usually does step 1: red team

[novel oriole]

rn im on junior analyst path as i had 0 cyber sec knowldge

[stable tiger]

HOW DO I FIND A 0DAY

they ask, before knowing what a register is

[muted olive]

good place to start then

[stable tiger]

that works too!

[icy viper]

I'm still doing basic computer courses but learning cyber stuff as I go so I'm not out of the loop when I finally get to cyber

[devout sail]

Mfw when the windows in vm is smoother than the host vm

[muted olive]

That is currently me honestly
although I know asm

I scream this routinely at my LLM

[novel oriole]

but yea do i need to do any network labs after completing networks foundation section?

[stable tiger]

cjca -> cpts -> the ad one i forgot the name -> maldev academy & crto from zero point

speedrun red team!

[novel oriole]

adn yea the theory is overwhelming tbh

[upbeat drift]

u mean cwes?

[muted olive]

cape

[stable tiger]

yes cape

[muted olive]

which ive heard is way harder than crto

[stable tiger]

it is

but

crto = corpo big flashy

[novel oriole]

do i need to do any network labs after completing networks foundation section?

[stable tiger]

its like the oscp

[muted olive]

lul true

[stable tiger]

the oscp needs a revamp

[muted olive]

I mean you can practice on starting point labs if there are any

[stable tiger]

90s style 32bit stack overflows in the big 26

💀

[muted olive]

or experiment on your own

[muted olive]

its fine let it be that way

its ez

[stable tiger]

their OSED course doesnt even fucking cover heap exploitation

😭

[upbeat drift]

Which one is better cwes or cpts?

[novel oriole]

but on which software? ciscopacket tracer i tried but its somewhat tricky

[muted olive]

...

up till now I was thinking OSED had actual exploit dev content?

[stable tiger]

cpts is more general

[ornate ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wave-hi-gif-21825039

[muted olive]

tracer, wireshark, etc

tcpdump

[icy viper]

Within joplin, can i have tabs or pages within pages?

[novel oriole]

i see.. and btw after being like CJCA level where would i actually stand

?

[muted olive]

depends on what you want

[novel oriole]

would i be hireable as an intern after cjca
/

?

[muted olive]

You would have a decent grasp of both red and blue teaming

[stable tiger]

its 64bit stack exploitation, basic windbg and some egg hunter stuff

oh and rop chains

but like

you could learn that in a weekend

[novel oriole]

i seee

[upbeat drift]

In the short run being able to do some bug bounty stuff. Long run to get enough knowledge to apply as pentester

[icy viper]

Like have somthing to do with Web thenn HTTP then say TCP and UDP between or packets?

[muted olive]

Honestly no idea since I haven't done CJCA, but that and some nice homelab building, HTB labs, CTFs etc should get you there

[stable tiger]

SANS courses are objectively the best for exp dev but theyre like 10k usd lmao

[stable tiger]

no

[muted olive]

CWES then

[novel oriole]

i did hear somewhere that after cjca ill be eligible for beginner ctfs

[stable tiger]

if you want a job do cdsa

[muted olive]

life choices:

• buy a car
• or buy one SANS cert

[muted olive]

technically true

[stable tiger]

stephen is so chill tho

[muted olive]

its not a requirement though

[meager kernel]

[novel oriole]

so i should quit the junior path rn?

[muted olive]

no

stay there and complete it

[stable tiger]

if you took an older version of sec760 and u didnt fw it, he'll try see if he can get u new access free

hes such a good guy

[meager kernel]

You want a job in what? Red team or blue?

[stable tiger]

no

finish it take the exam then take cdsa

[novel oriole]

MY AIM IS CPTS AFTER CJCA

[stable tiger]

you get them in ur subscription for a reason

[muted olive]

You are tempting me to buy OSED

[stable tiger]

no

you can learn all that free

[novel oriole]

ill be able to take CDSA after junior path r u sure?

[stable tiger]

in a weekend

[meager kernel]

Then why would you go for CDSA?

[muted olive]

exactly, it already sounds easy lol

[stable tiger]

you are not finding a stack 0day 99% of the time they're use after free

[novel oriole]

i never said that

[muted olive]

keyword being sounds

[meager kernel]

CDSA is for defence
If youre aiming for pentesting, no need for CDSA

[stable tiger]

no it lowkey is easy if you know assembly

[muted olive]

stack no lol. not usually anyway

[stable tiger]

ur not getting a pentesting job without soc experience if youve never worked in IT before

[meager kernel]

Then you have no need to go for CDSA

Do CJCA, then go for CPTS

[muted olive]

i did ONCE but its not that common

[novel oriole]

@meager kernelbut dude even this beginner path is full of heavy theory im overwhelmed

[meager kernel]

He does not need a defence cert

[stable tiger]

apply each module practically and practice

[muted olive]

one part at a time

[stable tiger]

he wants employment

[meager kernel]

Make notes, take breaks, read everything again if you do not understand
Do not rush, take your time.

[muted olive]

better go for SAL1 and PT1 then, the certs that get you hired!

[meager kernel]

As I said, he does not need a defence cert, thats for when hes going into defence full time

[novel oriole]

is there a yt channel that would teach how to simulate networking from 0 and enough for a junior like me?

[muted olive]

"going into defence" sounds cool as fuck honestly

[novel oriole]

cuz im more into practical stuff

[stable tiger]

until you’re staring at splunk dashboards 8 hours a day

[muted olive]

HTB academy would teach you

[novel oriole]

which exact place in htb?

[stable tiger]

David Bombal

[muted olive]

no, I'll be wearing blue armor and touching blue pulsating locks fuck you

[muted olive]

starting point

[stable tiger]

😭

[meager kernel]

[muted olive]

but ngl, physical defense is cool

[stable tiger]

@novel oriole if u wanna become very good at networking go on it exam answers and read all the Cisco content

And play around with packet tracer

[icy viper]

Well done steak 😭

[muted olive]

I would love to actually do physical security

At a high level

[stable tiger]

bouncer time

[muted olive]

No

more like ATS stuff

[novel oriole]

i wanna complete the junior analyst path and be good at everything in it.. literally everything

[stable tiger]

how life feels to discuss advanced exploration topics in general and have the noob role because I haven’t touched labs properly

[novel oriole]

no compromise on this

[stable tiger]

Cybersecurity is like medicine you can’t cover everything

[muted olive]

which is why htb role isn't indicative of anything

[stable tiger]

Picks what interests you and find a pathway towards it

[muted olive]

you can

[novel oriole]

ahhhh

[stable tiger]

who knows maybe I’m a larp

[muted olive]

where you go from the junior path is upto you