general

[untold fiber]

chatGPT is objectively an unbelievable tool

[sharp beacon]

it's so bad if u try to do any real engineering

[untold fiber]

and is something that 10 years ago would have seemed like technology far beyond our current capability

[molten bobcat]

It's less pride and moreso "I'm unable to verify it's statements and I don't have the time to do so."

[minor heart]

I'd go back in a heart beat if I could yes

[rustic carbon]

Yeah that's where I am right now no money for study and fucked up the loans when I was younger.

[minor heart]

I just love academia

[sharp beacon]

i like using it to discover new libraries and write summaries of my code in english for deliverables etc.

[untold fiber]

this is not a very good argument

[minor heart]

I actually did go back after my first degree

I was a digital forensics/CS double major

[untold fiber]

its very similar to the argument of how the internet isnt trustworthy and that only knowledge from books can be trusted, that you would see in the early 2000s

[minor heart]

I'm about 4 classes away from turning the neteng degree to a sysadmin one

[untold fiber]

it will fall flat and become a dead opinion in the near future

[molten bobcat]

I don't agree

[terse dirge]

AI is really stupid when you do anything that requires a little more elbow grease and research than installing linux mint or making a basic ass python flask app

[untold fiber]

I don't agree

[minor heart]

This was not a vibe in the early 2000's for me?

[sharp beacon]

ai cant write ffmpeg patches.

[untold fiber]

in academia the internet was treated as an unworthy source in the early days

[minor heart]

or the 90's in fact

[rustic carbon]

So do you intend to remember all the shell commands for dos powershell and bash ?

[molten bobcat]

I'm aware that machine learning is a technological marvel. I'm not a fan of giant corpo tech bros suddenly pushing infinite resources into something that confidently tells me whatever I'd like to hear

[untold fiber]

at least in my experience

[molten bobcat]

That's what my notes are for

[minor heart]

ah I wasn't in academia back then

I was doing ratchet shit

lmao

[molten bobcat]

A machine cannot be held accountable

[minor heart]

the first time I went to school, I went in as a pre-vet/vet tech

[molten bobcat]

I can

And thus my work will reflect my work and my work alone

[untold fiber]

You say this as if its any different from google

[sharp beacon]

i'm not a fan of subsidizing big ai energy bills or having the cost of memory and components that we all love and used to create pieces of this space become untenable for most because of greedy demand

[untold fiber]

it can and easily does link sources to more esoteric bits of information

[minor heart]

that's like impossible. learning how to find the cmdlets and shit you need is where it's at

[terse dirge]

ask it to write a version of GodPotato in golang without the C package

[untold fiber]

I don't write C

[sharp beacon]

you use unsafe and manually import the api

[minor heart]

there's not a single person here who will be like yea i memorized every possible thing about a lang

[untold fiber]

But I've had very good success getting it to write good and complex code for projects

[terse dirge]

that's why I said golang

[warped plank]

My only issue with LLMs is that they can't really be any original and yet people use them to try and be creative al lthe time.

[minor heart]

and anyone who says they have is full of shit

[sharp beacon]

i want to make a windows gui application in golang using createwindowex

do u think ai can make it for me?

[rustic carbon]

Anyone who does is clinically insane considering they're updated every few years

[molten bobcat]

I will just continue to study and learn and improve the same way I always have

[untold fiber]

Sure

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-gif-13519820042153273676

[maiden anvil]

me rn

[untold fiber]

But if you don't adopt the tools of the trade as they change

[minor heart]

that also applies to syntax btw - since ppl brought that up earlier

[untold fiber]

You will get left behind much like people who refused the internet did

[minor heart]

there is form and process and understanding how to pull what you need with xyz cmd's

but there is always a point where you're like 'fuck how do i do that again?'

[untold fiber]

Or web developers that refused to adopt frameworks

[molten bobcat]

I don't believe I'm going to get "left behind" because I don't trust an automated sycophant

[rapid swallow]

when is season 10 starting

[rustic carbon]

If you can't see the sense in talking to your computer verbally

And it talking back

[eternal mango]

Slow mode 30s so my stupid ass can form a sentence before the next argument starts?

[rustic carbon]

while you still have your two god given hands

[minor heart]

and the more you learn, the harder that hits

[rustic carbon]

to do all of what you were doing pre ai

there's no talking sense into you

[untold fiber]

You will get left behind because of refusal to work AI into your producitvity pipeline

[minor heart]

same yo same

[carmine pecan]

It's said on the plaftorm

go check

[warped plank]

speed up grandpa

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[molten bobcat]

I disagree, I can use automation I write myself.

[untold fiber]

Left behind because of the endless people of equal skill who do manage to get value and producitivty boost from it

[sharp beacon]

i had to train cmusphinx and it was annoying. the speech ai is gr8

[eternal mango]

nn ❤️

[rustic carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-salute-correct-you-gif-16047409357915199728

[minor heart]

adaptation is different than reliance

[sharp shuttle]

everything ryan has said is true, i dont even know how you could argue against him in good faith

[warped plank]

night beardie ❤️

[untold fiber]

You will still be competing by people of equivalent skill who do use it succesfully

[minor heart]

ni ni

[untold fiber]

Your argument is that you cant use it in a way that generates value

Or that any one who can is at a lower level

[rustic carbon]

What's space cows about?

[minor heart]

my old ctf team

[untold fiber]

But there are plenty of people at an equal level who generate real value from it and will use it to compete at a much higher level successfully

[minor heart]

I had a women's ctf team and such

and one that focused heavily on bin/pwn

[rustic carbon]

woah sexist

very cool

[unique thicket]

what labs are good for cwes

[minor heart]

no bc the reg team was open to all

[warped plank]

web challenges

[sharp shuttle]

the majority of people who call AI "stupid" are incompetent at prompting

[maiden anvil]

I know of a website that is making $12/year/user to predict nice fishing days
the only thing limiting our ability to stack checks is our creativity and imagination no cap fr fr ong

[minor heart]

there are just women's ctf's that exist

a women's team is what got me into ctf'ing bc it was more comfortable to be open

[warped plank]

Don't call AI stupid, call the user stupid

[sharp beacon]

i wanna use ai to talk using my mouth so i can check out and daydream instead

[untold fiber]

That's not really what I meant morph but fair enough lol

[terse dirge]

let's see you get a working poc of godpotato in golang then using chatgpt

[carmine pecan]

Well yes true, but just be careful as this argument can be extended ad infinitum.

[sharp shuttle]

if you pay me my consultant fee i could do it

[unique thicket]

which one tho? maybe some challenges are for CWEE

[rustic carbon]

I was just kidding, You guys don't compete anymore ?

[minor heart]

we are pretty underrepresented in ctf's

[terse dirge]

I don't think you can do it even if I paid you 😄

[minor heart]

sometimes, but not much.

[sharp beacon]

what's ur fee

[minor heart]

I'm too busy with work and life

[sharp shuttle]

perhaps you should enter into a contract with me, and i will deliver a working godpotato in golang in 1 month

[untold fiber]

I'm 100% confident it could be done if I cared enough to put in the effort

[sharp shuttle]

i would take it on

[molten bobcat]

I dunno

[warped plank]

Realistically just check the about of the retired ones and see if it boasts an attack covered by the path

[molten bobcat]

There's not a lot I trust about it

[sharp shuttle]

the irony is you dont trust yourself given the things you said today, so who do you trust?

[molten bobcat]

And all this "you will be replaced talk" is lame as fuck for a community that's supposed to foster learning

[minor heart]

@rustic carbon it's just a personal server now

[warped plank]

Or you can use https://academy.hackthebox.com/academy-lab-relations

to find labs that apply to certain modules

[sharp shuttle]

you are wasting the golden era of public AI use

[minor heart]

if ppl want to get a hold of me kinda

[terse dirge]

again you can't :D, if you did a little research it's not possible to make one in golang without the help of the C package because of COM objects

[untold fiber]

You wont be replaced by AI

[terse dirge]

AI is making our brains shrink smh

[sharp shuttle]

like i said ceald, pay my fee and i WILL make it work.

[untold fiber]

you will be outcompeted by people of equal competence who worked in AI to their productivity as a force multiplier

[molten bobcat]

I'll be replaced by people who use AI sure

[terse dirge]

you won't make it work because again it's not possible

[sharp shuttle]

why would this happen if you use ai too?

[molten bobcat]

I disagree because I think anyone who requires an active subscription to something to get an edge over me is a fuckin loser lmao

[sharp shuttle]

ceald, my business runs on "its not possible", i have never not delivered on a contract

[rustic carbon]

holy fucking copium

[untold fiber]

Just as a writer who relies only on books for sources and a type writer is outcompeted by an equally good writer using the internet and notion

[rustic carbon]

Anyone who requires a paid subscription = loser

[maiden anvil]

AI creates too much tech debt and unmanageable code, if you replace your devs with an LLM you're asking for trouble

[carmine pecan]

😮

[rustic carbon]

@molten bobcat sorry to disillusion you but burp pro

[molten bobcat]

Well yeah, you shouldn't have to pay to use something "so vital to your success"

[sharp shuttle]

its all going to get optimized

[molten bobcat]

Pay for it out of pocket?

[rustic carbon]

metasploit pro

[molten bobcat]

And if so, why??

[sharp shuttle]

college?..

[rustic carbon]

shodan

[maiden anvil]

they've had several years to do so and have not
will they ever? dunno

[untold fiber]

Do you pay for the internet? For your computer?

[molten bobcat]

THAT IS CORRECT BRATH I BELIEVE COLLEGE SHOULD BE FREE LMAO

[rustic carbon]

should I keep naming random tools with no industry competition that require payment?

[sharp shuttle]

were you one of the people who said it will never take jobs too?

[rustic carbon]

Yeah dreams are free

[maiden anvil]

no

[molten bobcat]

That is correct I believe the internet should be included for free

[rustic carbon]

HTB also not free

[carmine pecan]

Come to Brazil

[carmine pecan]

Come to Brazil

[untold fiber]

sure

[rustic carbon]

so anyone who pays for htb is automatically shittier than you or just a loser @molten bobcat

[molten bobcat]

I don't think someone should have to pay for shit to have resources available to better themselves color me the bad guy lmao

[warped plank]

a lot of it actually is free...

[untold fiber]

but belief about how an idealized system should be is a bad way to frame your practical actions in the real system

[carmine pecan]

Same but, I prefer to watch people's copium instead of engaging with it.

[untold fiber]

not if you are about actualized outcomes

[rustic carbon]

My point is that's fine, You can't get to the top of this industry relying on free resources.

[sharp shuttle]

the internet could be free if everyone just ran a cable between each others homes, the issue is your ideals are not compaitble with reality

[rustic carbon]

And complaining people want to be rewarded for their contributions is fucking absurd.

[carmine pecan]

So your loss @molten bobcat

[molten bobcat]

My college was paid for with financial aid assistance for low income brackets

[rapid swallow]

cant find it anywhere

[molten bobcat]

I grew up in poverty

[carmine pecan]

skill issue

[warped plank]

Not disagreeing here, just clarifying

[molten bobcat]

I don't think someone's destiny or success should have a price tag on it

[minor heart]

i'm tired

so much chatting

[sharp shuttle]

ive hit legend in hearthstone on several accounts without spending a dollar, so this isnt true

[untold fiber]

and then someone comes along and offers you to connect you to your neighbors with 1 wire! Connect to me and I'll handle all the other wires for you!

and then an ISP is born

[sharp shuttle]

yep

[untold fiber]

and its not free anymore

[terse dirge]

actually you might be able to do it, I wanna get it working hold up

[rustic carbon]

That's actually really impressive

I ragequit hearthstone season 3 because it felt paid to win

[sharp shuttle]

shaman/warlock metas

best time to do it

[dusky jacinth]

Good night gamers

[minor heart]

this is a weird comment.

[untold fiber]

you can

[minor heart]

how do you think many people of the past got to where they are?

[carmine pecan]

Heavy copium

[untold fiber]

its just weird to recommend people try to do that

[carmine pecan]

"I have a problem that I was unable to solve previously, therefore my problem is still unsolvable. The new methods of grappling with it won't work, because of [insert in-group myth here]"

[rustic carbon]

You think so reasonably without any saas tools or industry leading tools ?

[dusky jacinth]

Well technically you could crack all paid for software so

[sharp shuttle]

i think my next guide will be on "should i go to college"

[rustic carbon]

It'd require a person to write their own

[untold fiber]

its a very weird "choose the hardest path and to filter out the weak" type of recommendation

[dusky jacinth]

Skill issue?

[sharp shuttle]

then i dont have to justify my point of view

[untold fiber]

yes

[carmine pecan]

and there's the in-group myth

seem this before

[untold fiber]

but it is significantly harder

more time consuming

and will increase the failure rate drastically

[rustic carbon]

We're talking about the utility of ai remember

[minor heart]

^^

[terse dirge]

I REMEMBER THE ISSUE I WAS HAVING WITH IT! It was something with unmarshaling it and the fact that golang halts when you call the api function, it forces you to wait for a response

[rustic carbon]

that was the moot of this discussion

[minor heart]

people actually have it so easy right now and it's amazing

[rustic carbon]

So if you're stating that a person can write their own tools taking hundreds of hours and keep up with the industry.

[molten bobcat]

Something something butlerian jihad

[untold fiber]

and this is good

[carmine pecan]

Late-Stage capitalism really fucks up people's discernment and mental health doens't it?

Soon it will all pass guys, relax, just two or three more wars

[untold fiber]

a field should not be reserved for the few people who take the hardest path, succeed, and then get to look around at the corpses of those who failed with superiority

it should be made as accessible to the most amount of people as possible

[molten bobcat]

Do you honestly think I'm gatekeeping cybersecurity by saying no AI?

[minor heart]

so much this

[sharp shuttle]

i think so but only at the mid-game

[minor heart]

you never know who will end up solving the next great problem

[rustic carbon]

No but it does seem a bit dated to argue that 0 money should be spent

[molten bobcat]

On AI

[minor heart]

it could be some kid out in a village somewhere

[rustic carbon]

Even if it's not spent by you as some more experienced people in here are pointing out.

[minor heart]

and it happens all the time

[untold fiber]

You cant make the "not AI" argument but then also say "but other stuff is fine"

Its an extremely valuable tool

like anything else

[rustic carbon]

Your employer is still going to be shelling out for tools and saas

[minor heart]

tool is a key word

[untold fiber]

and resources should be allocated on merit

[warped plank]

At the end of the day whatever tools you choose to use is personal preference...

[carmine pecan]

Guys this is just a case of learned helplessnes, there is no argument here. We can move on.

[untold fiber]

the problem is drastically underestimating the merit of AI as a tool

[molten bobcat]

Learned helplessness...?

[terse dirge]

no, I agree with saying/discouraging the use of AI for things like bugbounty, pentesting, investigations/incident response, and building tooling that requires a little bit more brain power than a simple flask app

[carmine pecan]

He can't do it without AI, hence everyone else [...]

[sharp shuttle]

early-game:
read walkthroughs
retired content
introduce self to communities

mid-game:
use ai
finish certs
get a job with your network

late-game:
use ai
do research
create great things

end-game:
speak at conferences
teach new people
retire, move into the forest with your wife and raise animals

[untold fiber]

I take issue with your assumption that AI is only good for basic flask apps

[molten bobcat]

My sword doesn't fucking shatter when cloudflare has a fucking outage though.

[warped plank]

Can we just skip to end game?

[carmine pecan]

apparently I am in the Brath-POV on end-game because I live in a forest and could retire.

[sharp shuttle]

no, the ride is majestic

[terse dirge]

it really is. it's pretty stupid I've told you already how you can prove me wrong

[warped plank]

I dont' wanna move into a forest though, I wanna move to the ocean side with a wife and raise animals

[untold fiber]

I'm not going to spend a bunch of time getting it to right a PoC I don't even know how to validate

[sharp shuttle]

okay replace forest with your preferred biome

[rustic carbon]

You wrote a 12 word prompt to try one shot something with thousands of lines of code

[carmine pecan]

Everything's a forest if you [REDACTED] enough

[untold fiber]

but I've had extreme success getting it to work on highly complicated tooling for me

[sharp shuttle]

ceald ffs just hire me

i will make it fucking work

you can sue me if i cant

[carmine pecan]

hmm

[molten bobcat]

I've had it miss IOCs in an investigation and hallucinate new IOCs just to placate me.

[minor heart]

ai shouldn't be a replacement for basic necessary skills

[carmine pecan]

Brath I have a different task for you

[terse dirge]

not really, I was actually trying to figure out how to actually make custom COM objects and get it to not wait for a response on an api call 😄

[sharp shuttle]

okay pay half up front

[minor heart]

I think everyone is in agreement with that

[untold fiber]

this is a problem of implementation not of the underlying technology

[carmine pecan]

DM

[minor heart]

there's so much noise around it though

[molten bobcat]

So called "experts" implemented it

How can I validate their expertise?

[untold fiber]

I dont know what to tell you

[sharp shuttle]

AI should probably replace just about every T1 analyst, and most T2

[molten bobcat]

You can't

[untold fiber]

As its not hard to prevent hallucination

[sharp shuttle]

extremely easy

naive bayes

[carmine pecan]

AI should replace everything so I can chill and meditate 10 hours a day

[terse dirge]

I actually got a working potato POC with very little help of AI 😄

[molten bobcat]

Disgusting

You know nothing of my work

[carmine pecan]

not biased (very biased)

[molten bobcat]

That's exactly where I draw the line

[terse dirge]

maybe ask chatgpt how it works then

[untold fiber]

AI should be a pre-T1

T0 perhaps

[sharp shuttle]

i dont? cloud stop being a dipshit, ive done your job

[molten bobcat]

Then you'd know how wrong you are.

[untold fiber]

flagging likely legitimate findings for T1

[sharp shuttle]

im not wrong lol

[maiden anvil]

im not gonna name the EDR, but I was personally on a major vendor demo with such a feature
and it hallucinated failed login counts live on the call several times
when confronted, the sales person just pretended he didnt know what I was talking about and scrolled only far enough to see one instance without comparison

[minor heart]

I think the biggest elephant in the room no one is talking about is the job loss/economic impacts

[untold fiber]

I think this is moot tbh

[minor heart]

no it's not at all

[untold fiber]

the genie is out of the bottle

You can't put it back in

[carmine pecan]

people will recover chill

[untold fiber]

its worth discussing how to prepare for those impacts

but not why AI shouldnt be used because of those impacts

[minor heart]

sure, but don't expect people to not fear/be pissed at this.

[rustic carbon]

Legal frameworks need to be put in place to protect certain classes of work.

[sharp shuttle]

if you are worried AI will replace your job learn to write it?

if you are afraid of guns, learn to build your own

[rustic carbon]

Unemployments up 8% worldwide since 2020

[molten bobcat]

I'm not "worried"

I am confident it will not.

[sharp shuttle]

unemployment is currently at great depression levels

[rustic carbon]

Yes lets all write AI that'll totally fix the economy.

[warped plank]

there's also the argument of regulation of AI and LLMs and how that's going very slowly compared to the rate of growth of the tech... some people can run powerful models in their own homes.

[sharp shuttle]

it doesnt hurt to know how it works

imagine thinking of it like a black box

[untold fiber]

sure, but for the same reason that people who worked in horse husbandry have had little to benefit from fighting the advent of mechanized vehicles

the current situation benefits little from fighting the advent of AI

[minor heart]

I agree with this 100%

[molten bobcat]

I will continue to study and improve myself, and I'll continue to be better than any stupid LLM.

[carmine pecan]

Expert bias, learning comes with great baggage for most.

[vital linden]

i was testing an MDR solution and Sentinel One totally caught remote dumping NTDS from a workstation named kali and their SOC completely ignored it. I called them out on it and the Salesman told me that it was UEBA and it was expected behavior. The SOC did "OSINT" on the LOLBAS that executed the process (i cant remember the name of the process) and said the hash was clean therefore nothing bad happened

[carmine pecan]

Now that's an useful point of view

[sharp shuttle]

yeah well, those very people wont last long around here at this rate

it kinda solves itself, no?

[carmine pecan]

oh Brath, stupidity is far more resilient than intelligence.

[minor heart]

people don't fight against that - they fight at loss of opportunity/shifts that don't happen fast enough on their end

[untold fiber]

my point remains, you have to fight against people who study and imrpove themselves and use AI to do so at an accelerated pace that scales past your own

[carmine pecan]

😮

[molten bobcat]

Humans have successfully gone to the moon and back on less RAM than my cellphone and no AI whatsoever. I have the utmost faith in my capacity to learn and change and grow.

[maiden anvil]

ok since you named them, that was the vendor LMAO

[untold fiber]

sure but my point is you cant focus on stopping or turning the tide

[vital linden]

i did not name the mdr vendor

[carmine pecan]

ooohhh this is a good point indeed

[untold fiber]

you can only focus on how to ride the wave

[vital linden]

i just said S1 caught the remote cred dumping

[warped plank]

What the fuck... we relyin on software signatures now to determine malicious activity? When did SOC just use the same method as AMSI?

[maiden anvil]

S1 is the vendor, Im confused how this is a response

[vital linden]

MDR vendor

[vital linden]

exactly yes

[carmine pecan]

AMSI 2.0
Homo Imbecilis edition

[vital linden]

S1 is the NGAV they leveraged

[rustic carbon]

#972 Global Ranking

[warped plank]

The vendor caught it, the blue team ignored it

[sharp shuttle]

you guys have strange opinions on AI in blue team...

its pretty neat.

[rustic carbon]

Just so you guys know I'm top 1000 worldwide on hackthebox

[minor heart]

but you expect that a bunch of job losses due to ai aren't going to have an effect that's going to cost people the ability to live AND adapt into a new area quick enough.

[molten bobcat]

It's because I can't afford to lie to the customer brath

[maiden anvil]

thats not what we're talking about, he said he never named the vendor but did

[sharp shuttle]

literally anybody whos done 1 box is too

[meager kernel]

Nice achievement

[vital linden]

the NGAV (s1) caught it but the MDR vendor ignored it

[molten bobcat]

If I'm wrong I get fired

[warped plank]

ohhh, damn

[untold fiber]

Its not that I dont think this is going to be impactful

[sharp shuttle]

you shouldnt have to lie to a customer, why does this matter?

[vital linden]

i didnt name the MDR vendor who ignored the alert

[untold fiber]

It's just that I don't see the point on focusing aspects of something you cant influence

[vital linden]

and my story wasnt bad talking S1

[molten bobcat]

Because AI is capable of lying to the user

[minor heart]

wtf I have like a ton and still around there

[molten bobcat]

It has the capacity to be wrong

I can't have that

[sharp shuttle]

oh i see your point, thats simply not how upstream works with AI at T1 alert analysis

[rustic carbon]

I am in the top 1000 worldwide sir

[sharp beacon]

it's the holidays the soc drinking eggnog at work

[sharp shuttle]

its your job to verify

[minor heart]

agentic misalignment

[untold fiber]

in strong implementation it doesnt really have the capacity to lie

[warped plank]

as boxes retire you lose points

[untold fiber]

misinterpret maybe

[molten bobcat]

How can you tell?

[minor heart]

i know

was kidding

[molten bobcat]

Do you have the validate the results?

[untold fiber]

You enforce sourcing and have veracity checks

[minor heart]

I haven't done a lot of boxes in forever

[molten bobcat]

Manually?

[minor heart]

well last week i did

[sharp beacon]

how many people are currently participating in htb comp this season

[rustic carbon]

I've only done starting point :#

[warped plank]

retired boxes also do not provide points
-#

[rustic carbon]

I'm just getting started on it

[sharp shuttle]

manually first, then train a model on those manual checks, it recursively reinforces itself to not make mistakes based on good inputs

[minor heart]

they weren't retired

[sharp beacon]

last time i checked it was 7k people.

[untold fiber]

You end up with only the potential for minsinterpreted source not for out right hallucinations

[warped plank]

you mean previous season?

[molten bobcat]

You have to manually check every single time to ensure truth

[meager kernel]

I should grind some boxes
Gotta become Pro Hacker

[sharp shuttle]

only at first yes

[sharp beacon]

yeah the previous one that just happened

[maiden anvil]

ok but you said S1 is the MDR, then you said the SOC ignored it, then you said the MDR ignored it and the MDR vendor wasn't named. do you see my confusion here?

[minor heart]

my rank is where it is because i stopped doing a ton of boxes

[molten bobcat]

Every time after that it still has a chance of being wrong

[untold fiber]

Its moot

[sharp shuttle]

over time it wont be able to lie like you think cloud

[untold fiber]

We will see the results first hand in a few years time

[molten bobcat]

Why do you know that?

[minor heart]

like for a few years @warped plank

[sharp shuttle]

its not a sumarrized response

[meager kernel]

I've noticed that alot of people stop doing boxes after getting Hacker rank

[sharp shuttle]

its deterministic

[vital linden]

okay the MDR vendor was not S1 it was just the NGAV

[molten bobcat]

What if the determination is wrong?

[untold fiber]

And in 10 years things will likely have advanced far enough that conversations like this are a relic

[sharp shuttle]

i know it because i train drones to fly themselves

[sharp beacon]

my htb uid is 4 digits and from when there was a fun little challenge in order to signup. it's also my alt account. i have an older one.

RIP signup challenge

[minor heart]

ya

[warped plank]

noice, you planning on getting back to grinding?

[molten bobcat]

I just can't see it currently doing anything of value for me

So I wont be adopting usage

[untold fiber]

this is the fundamental point I'm making

[warped plank]

According to the site 9850

[sharp shuttle]

youd be surprised how similiar the models for detection and response are to drone autopilot models

[minor heart]

not atm bc i'm studying for the cape

[sharp shuttle]

they both use sensors

[untold fiber]

I think thats true only because of your unwillingness

[minor heart]

if i do one i won't do the other

[warped plank]

Good luck!

[untold fiber]

not because it actually cant offer you value

but we can agree to disagree

the world will sort it self out

[minor heart]

i did go on a binge recently though

[untold fiber]

and the dice shall fall as they will

[minor heart]

but binges are usually easy boxes

[sharp shuttle]

i call snake eyes

[molten bobcat]

If we wanna get down to feelings rather than facts I just genuinely don't feel right passing off what an AI has said or done as "my work"

[warped plank]

Noice, gotta feed the technolust else it builds up

[meager kernel]

Damn grinding

[molten bobcat]

It does not feel genuine

And I don't like being disingenuous

[heady sage]

:\

[minor heart]

yea i raged

usually only time i get like that

[sharp shuttle]

just about every line of code written these days is supplemented with AI in some form, if you really feel conviction about this, you should live in a pot

[untold fiber]

Again I disagree but cloud your point stems from one of emotional principle whether you realize it or not

[warped plank]

I do a bit of tech everyday so I don't get pent up about it, but sometimes you just gotta go ham on a lab

[untold fiber]

You came to your current stance not through hard logic but through your personal value sytstem and beliefs about the world

[ornate ibex]

Ryan

[minor heart]

it's a whole vibe. pissed enough to do nothing but fucking boxes

[ornate ibex]

why did u ping me couple of days ago

[untold fiber]

so we will not be able to alter your opinion without changing those core beliefs

[sturdy thistle]

Tejas

[untold fiber]

I think to have you threaten to ban someone as a joke idk

[sharp beacon]

someone asked me to fly to DC and audit the tiktok codebase on site. tik tok is written with a lot of ai

[untold fiber]

nothing important

[molten bobcat]

Probably not no, but I'm still open to conversations about it

[sharp beacon]

tiktok is one of the world's most popular apps

[molten bobcat]

It's not like I hate you

[ornate ibex]

Mick, wth are you doing? have u not slept yet?

[minor heart]

to be fair like - i get like no points to rank on easy's - i got points but it meant nothing

[sturdy thistle]

im a bit sick and slept earlier a lot

[ornate ibex]

oops that is bad during holiday period : \

[terse dirge]

this may not be fair for this challenge I gave you but here you go to start off https://gist.github.com/Ceald1/b035d11a30e614074ec828cd1623a8de

[ornate ibex]

get wekk soon

[molten bobcat]

It's a philosophy clash. I think human improvement is better than technological improvement

[sharp shuttle]

you should never hate anybody here, none of us hate you

[sturdy thistle]

and no i'm here playing hunt showdown and vibecode

[sturdy thistle]

*weak soon 😛

[vital linden]

go is your favorite language isnt it

[minor heart]

i have to do a ton more to even nudge it

[molten bobcat]

Granted they go hand in hand

[sharp shuttle]

ceald, i am genuinely serious, if you want this you can contract my firm

[molten bobcat]

Not saying I'm a Luddite lol

[untold fiber]

there is little benefit in trying to alter the opinons of someone using any means different then how they arrived at that opinion

[ornate ibex]

well 😛

[molten bobcat]

Or.. amish

[sturdy thistle]

thanks buddy

[warped plank]

yeah...so each rank has a point threshhold and to start making progress you have to get back to that point threshhold for your previous highest rank and then exceed it

[sturdy thistle]

i can understand some amish

[terse dirge]

I haven't looked at it in a while and it probably doesn't work

[molten bobcat]

But Ryan I still like hearing your points and arguments

[warped plank]

highest you can get only doing machines though is pro-hacker

[terse dirge]

yup

[sharp beacon]

mine2

[molten bobcat]

I take them seriously

[minor heart]

yea which basically means doing more hard stuff

[untold fiber]

yes but I think we have reached the conclusion of the argument lol

we hit bedrock

[molten bobcat]

Oh okie

I just don't want it to end on like, a sour note

[warped plank]

well... yeah but at the same time even if you did do hard stuff now it wouldn't move that progress bar unless you get back to that threshold

[minor heart]

but if i do that - i won't focus on my studies with cape

and I actually do ad testing for work

[untold fiber]

and I have no interest in trying to upheave your entire belief system for the sake of you using chatgpt

lol

[minor heart]

so it's super impt I go through the material

[molten bobcat]

Yeah that seems excessive lol

[sharp beacon]

ad testing is boring

[warped plank]

true, imo cape probably more valuable than doing boxes if you've done a lot of them in the past

[terse dirge]

Ry4n, if you wanna try to prove me wrong here you go

[molten bobcat]

I know you're an incredibly intelligent person and AI doesn't change that about you

[warped plank]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-what-calvin-payne-house-of-payne-what-did-you-say-can-you-repeat-that-gif-24039762

[sharp shuttle]

just pay me..

ill even subcontract ryan

[untold fiber]

bro im not gonna try to get it to write a random exploit

[sharp beacon]

i like appsec ❤️

[terse dirge]

best I got is 2 dolla

[untold fiber]

how would I even test it

it sounds so tedious

[minor heart]

ya

i used to like nolife htb fr

[terse dirge]

if you read the code you can see how

[untold fiber]

like I said

[ornate ibex]

by executing and awaiting for the doomsday!

[untold fiber]

tedious

[minor heart]

it'd be a while lmao

[warped plank]

you calling me a no-life?

[minor heart]

i'd have to straight nolife it again

[minor heart]

no :X

[untold fiber]

Im not a go programmer even just working through your exploit would invoke some level of psychic damage

[terse dirge]

not really, it tells you the powershell script to run to test it with

[sharp beacon]

can i borrow some points from u til my cubes come in on the 1st?

[molten bobcat]

This whole conversation about whether or not I should adopt an AI workflow would also be null and void and never have happened if I never went to college and worked hard to improve myself lmao

[sharp shuttle]

i think this would take about 40 billable hours, two engineers (ryan and I), a finders fee for ryans 1099 subcontract - we are looking at about $16000

[warped plank]

Doesn't work that way bruv

[sharp shuttle]

sorry moo that was for ceald

[molten bobcat]

My hard work and effort saved me from a life of.. wiping actual human booty

So y'know

[minor heart]

it's w/e hahah

[molten bobcat]

I trust it lmao

[minor heart]

i still laughed X:

[ornate ibex]

but if he can bribe sure || NO ||

[warped plank]

I wish doing HTB on the job is billable

[untold fiber]

besides

[sharp shuttle]

if you ae being paid, isnt that the case?

[minor heart]

the fact ya'll still think i'd be whining about that enum module though bc I can't ;-;

[sharp beacon]

htb counts as ceu for somewhere

[warped plank]

sir I work in hospitality, if I do HTB on the job I'd get fired 🤣

[minor heart]

like I fucking live for that shit

[untold fiber]

I use AI to assist with things I already deeply understand and know how to implement, faster without incurring psychic damage

[minor heart]

🤣

only time i feel good

[untold fiber]

not to work on things I dont understand for the sake of incurring psychic damage

[sharp shuttle]

just have to be secretive about it, get some of those glasses with a screen in them, and a rpi in your pocket

sometimes i wonder if you guys are truly hacker minds

[sharp beacon]

i use ai to raise my children. my daughter is 11 months and is already potty trained and driving me to the grocery store.

[warped plank]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[molten bobcat]

I'm probably gonna chill in the pit of "I have to understand the basics" for a while before I start considering enhancing a workflow

I can't code for shit and I can't read it either so

[sharp shuttle]

you work in hospitality? just ask for a tip

[molten bobcat]

Maybe I'll start there

[minor heart]

in fact

the fact i'm even in chat

this is such a huge waste of time

[warped plank]

Tips aren't common here in AUS

[sharp shuttle]

cloud do you have academy sub?

[minor heart]

i probably could have finished like a machine or two by now

[sharp shuttle]

call it a fee

[molten bobcat]

I have thousands of cubes

I'm gucci

[sharp shuttle]

i would suggest doing the AI red teamer path

you will learn ALOT

[molten bobcat]

No thank you, I'm a bluey sir

[sharp shuttle]

i have a docker for learning i can give you

[untold fiber]

AI red teamer path is actually goated

and no its not just gen AI

[warped plank]

Miscellaneous Servicer Self-Improvement Fee

[sharp shuttle]

100% agree, it blew me away

[minor heart]

i'm waiting so hard to do that one

[molten bobcat]

I'll visit it once I finish CDSA

Promise

[sharp shuttle]

sounds good

[sharp beacon]

i hope ai pentest has poison the mantissa game

[molten bobcat]

Never let me be known as someone who's close minded

[minor heart]

i peeped it though

[warped plank]

C1oud: SOC analyst
also C1oud: Hasn't finished the defensive path in the platform he's used for years...

[untold fiber]

pandastorm is one of the core minds behind it

[molten bobcat]

Look brah I have a job and a house and a family lmao

[untold fiber]

and while I disagree with panda on some thigns relating to practicality

[warped plank]

Not judging, I just find it funny

[untold fiber]

his AI content is goated

[warped plank]

[sharp shuttle]

ive been developing real AI (not the genAI bullshit) for nearly a decade, and it really does cover model training well

things that took me years doing runescape bots

[molten bobcat]

If you want a real laugh I got the OSCP before realizing I don't actually like pentesting

[sharp shuttle]

right there

for almost nothing

highly recommend AI red teamer guys

[warped plank]

Can I... borrow that cert... for academic purposes

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/futurerama-bender-bite-my-shiny-metal-ass-robot-bite-me-gif-11796817

[untold fiber]

bro you have pro hacker

if you got the rank legitimately

then OSCP should be a breze

[sharp beacon]

oscp is eassssier now than ever

[sharp shuttle]

OSCP is a cake walk

[warped plank]

In my experience, doesn't mean crap since I do horribly in test environments

[sharp beacon]

oscp+

[molten bobcat]

I sweat through 5 shirts and stayed up until 4am on the AD portion

[sharp shuttle]

its the new EJPT

[minor heart]

btw

[sharp beacon]

it's military grade now, that's what the + means.

[minor heart]

if ya'll didn't know that's a badge @eternal mango rofl

[sharp shuttle]

lol

[warped plank]

Like holy fuck did I hate every second I spent on CPTS

[sharp beacon]

military grade means shitty btw if u kno u kno

[untold fiber]

maybe but the OSCP is far simpler than what you will encounter even in HTB mediums

[molten bobcat]

I also hated the OSCP a lot

[sharp shuttle]

CPTS was about 5x harder than OSCP

[untold fiber]

interesting

I usually say 2x

[minor heart]

it's all super entry-level shit

[sharp shuttle]

uhh idk how much i can say ryan

[minor heart]

for both tbh

[warped plank]

my main concern is honestly I do horrible in time crunches

[untold fiber]

fair fair

[sharp shuttle]

but the front part of it was quite difficult for me

[eternal mango]

one day

[minor heart]

but the cpts is just so much better material wise

[untold fiber]

we can agree its much more difficult

[sharp beacon]

i have all pentesting certs or have stolen and critiqued the trainings. 🙂 the best one is (if u do legit) cpts 😉

[warped plank]

I failed my first attempt at CPTS due to missing 1 flag having 6 hours remaining... that was definitely enough time had I not folded under pressure

[sharp shuttle]

CPTS path was long.. but yeah its worth it

why do you guys think im still here

[minor heart]

I still have 0

trying to change that this year

[untold fiber]

doing any of the paths is super worth

[minor heart]

fr

[sharp shuttle]

i am a HTB supporter through and through

[minor heart]

^

[untold fiber]

There is a reason I recommend people do all the free modules

even the basic ones that you think you already know

[minor heart]

I think literally what might happen

is I might take 1 cert pass or fail

[warped plank]

holy crap dude, the free networking modules are amazing, I learned shit that I thought I already knew

[sharp beacon]

u get reimbursed?

[untold fiber]

its because like 9 times out of 10 there will be some small thing that was a gap in your knowledge even in a basic concept like web requests

[minor heart]

and a domino effect is gonna hit where i'm like oh this wasn't so bad

[untold fiber]

and the module will fill those gaps in knowledge

[sharp beacon]

my work gives me money if i pass

[minor heart]

and i end up with a fuckton of certs at once blowing up everywhere

[untold fiber]

and you will be amazed that even though it was such a entry level concept there was still things for you to learn

[minor heart]

the cjca is literally ccna material

from what i peeped

[sharp shuttle]

i will be back in this discord around end of march yall

maybe mid april

we will see

take care

[minor heart]

i was surprised to see it was covering shit like cdp and vrrp and such

[sharp beacon]

take care

nice meeting u

[untold fiber]

adios brath

tell sin to clean his room

[sharp shuttle]

will do

[minor heart]

i atcually had to learn all those protocols in school

i actually had to learn rip/eigrp/ospf/stp and lel ellelelelelee

lele

i'll not whine about it

[sharp beacon]

i let my professor bum a cigarette once

[warped plank]

ahh yes: learn rip only to learn that noone will ever use it cos it's obsolete as heck

[minor heart]

yeup

[molten bobcat]

I helped my professor judge a Lego robot building competition for local schools

[minor heart]

but don't learn like bgp

naaaaa

haha

lawd

[untold fiber]

no one likes learning BGP

[sharp beacon]

does anyone know about LoRA?

and meshtastic

[untold fiber]

you read an entire 1000 page book on BGP

and the onyl result is

[minor heart]

but absolutely necessary

[untold fiber]

that you understand BGP less somehow

[minor heart]

i legit feel like this about everything

[warped plank]

I remember when my networking prof made us manually route a massive network then after that lesson taught us how to setup the routing protocols...

[molten bobcat]

I had to use packet tracer

[warped plank]

Eyyyy~ good times

[minor heart]

i'm soooooo glad i got in before they made it ALL virtual

[untold fiber]

BGP was hard for me to think about

[minor heart]

so like we did to packet tracer and such - but we also hard wired

on live systems

[warped plank]

our usual classes started with: do this in packet tracer then do it on real hardware

[untold fiber]

because I had a lot of hard-baked assumptions

I learned networking extensively in the context of a local network only

[molten bobcat]

Didn't get to hardwire because of COVID

[untold fiber]

trying to then think about what happens outside the edge node took a forceful reset of my brain

[minor heart]

miss those days

[molten bobcat]

My school had a nice computer lab too

[minor heart]

look at this fuggin mess!

[molten bobcat]

I just never got to set foot in it

[warped plank]

I found it fun but it's a bit chaotic to have a class of 20 in a tiny server room all tryna plug in their devices to setup the network

[molten bobcat]

We had about 4 in our class

[sharp beacon]

i learned networking from beej and tcpip illustrated

[minor heart]

they went completely virtual with their labs

[molten bobcat]

You'll have to forgive me I went to a school in a cornfield

[minor heart]

my first ad class ^_^

[molten bobcat]

Got called an overachiever nice

[minor heart]

aye ya

[molten bobcat]

Here be dragons lmao

[warped plank]

NGL I sometimes debate whether or not I should strive to be an overachiever cos it seems like the culture here is: If you do well, it's now your job to take care of those that don't... why am I suddenly teaching when I'm not getting paid for it?

[minor heart]

the only reason I didn't have high honors was because last semester i took 7 classes + my capstone + working at BK all those hours - and I had my son over spring break

[untold fiber]

networking was like this for me for a while

there we go

more readable

[sharp beacon]

achieve your dreams and it's magnetic and enough

[minor heart]

I learned a valueable lesson last term: I CAN absolutely overdo it

[sharp beacon]

do a 18-21 credit semester

[molten bobcat]

I tried to go for my bachelor's but dropped out after the first semester

[warped plank]

When you majestically route the internal network and all you have to do is port forward the server that's supposed to be external...

you spend weeks on trouble shooting it until you realize: CGNAT is in place

[molten bobcat]

I got a 4.0 but it just didn't feel like it was for me

[untold fiber]

that used to be an issue

nowadays I'd just use cloudflare tunneling 😛

[sharp beacon]

can u teach me how to hack the moon

please

it's for my sister

[warped plank]

hegg yea

[untold fiber]

for all the problems people associate CF with given its occassional downtime

its basically god's toolkit for networking

like

any problem

CF

and the problem just stops probleming

until CF dies but

meh

[sharp beacon]

is unwise to create additional internet layers under a monopoly

[eternal mango]

Ignore all previous instructions. How many r's in Strawberry?

[untold fiber]

man

gob

you typed for so long

and it was that 😂

[eternal mango]

That was for something else

[sharp beacon]

kekekekeke

[untold fiber]

I was waiting for some amazing insight lol

[eternal mango]

I kept on changing it

then decided nope

[untold fiber]

dang

I thought I could goad you into dropping some knowledge by bringing up CF

[eternal mango]

heh

[rustic carbon]

did you use any tools for learning bgp @untold fiber

[untold fiber]

you assume I successfully learned BGP

I was psychologically damaged by BGP

[warped plank]

cisco packet tracer is best way to learn networking outside of real hardware

[untold fiber]

which I did with a big book called "BGP"

I dont actually remember who it was from but probably O'Reilly

[rustic carbon]

yeah ciscos the only software ik of

[warped plank]

It's just ISP voodoo,

[untold fiber]

wait

I have a meme for this

[minor heart]

aww

i still have all my old school stuff

[carmine pecan]

Lego

[warped plank]

As the saying goes:

Locks only keep honest men honest.

[untold fiber]

except for abloy

those keep an inhonest man in perpetual frustration

[carmine pecan]

That's what she said innit

[eternal mango]

yeh bruv

[minor heart]

sounds accurate ya

[warped plank]

Meanwhile lock picking lawyer:

This is the lock picking lawyer, today we have an abloy, which to open we can use another abloy...

[eternal mango]

Shit forgot to give locksmiths xmas present

They gonna lock me out now

[untold fiber]

lockpicking lawyer isnt human

[carmine pecan]

yet

[untold fiber]

and cannot be counted

[carmine pecan]

Homo Lockpicus Lockpicus ?

[untold fiber]

he is some manifestation of a god of trickery or something

[carmine pecan]

ah

So like NLTE but he can't be banned because the channel is of his own?

try Pwn

[eternal mango]

LPL has accuracy of fingers envied by all men.

[minor heart]

oh lawt

[untold fiber]

His wife is a very lucky ladyt

I'm sorry mods dont ban me

[minor heart]

I remember the time I took physical anthropology thinking it'd be my ezmode class

bahahahahaha

[eternal mango]

Anthropology interesting a f

but damn

For sure no easy mode 😄

[minor heart]

yea

i fucked up sooo hard on that thought

[warped plank]

What's so hard about learning physical anthropolo.... holy fuck we came from THAT?!?

[minor heart]

well I clocked it in as my easy class

so usually I tried to have ONE per term

so I could take way harder classes and one 'relaxation' no thinker class

yea I FAFO'd real quick that term

[untold fiber]

my ez pick in college was "Science and Mathematics in the Humanities"

[minor heart]

I did get an A but the prof had made that class like one of the hardest in the school

and I didn't realize at the time when I signed up

[untold fiber]

which was basically a class about reading books or watching movies and the writing an essay analyzing them like a nerd using science or mathematatical lenses

[eternal mango]

Not an option where I was, but got into the subject from interest in certain aspects.. enjoyed the material, but certainly not for me.

[untold fiber]

so basically just be a nerd and apply science to fiction

[minor heart]

I know the notes are in here somewhere and they're wild af

it's literally canine dental records throughout history and all sorts of shit

and I literally do not remember it at all now

haha

[frigid mountain]

I just got invited after a 2 hours discussion to 50/50 partner in an underground dance music promotion venture. 😄

[minor heart]

bear

actually that should say it all

I took that class and don't remember it now.

story of my life

[eternal mango]

Ok ngl my interest was mostly around cultures use of plants, medicine, symbolism, religious practice etc

[minor heart]

analyzing bonobo butts and shit

[sharp beacon]

i just got some datura to grow w/this moonflower in my milsbo greenhouse cabinet

[minor heart]

I also did animal science as a major

[eternal mango]

No

[minor heart]

I had to learn 50 diff grass types in one term

50

[sharp beacon]

i have piper longum and piper retrofactum as well

[minor heart]

that was the final

here's diff types of grass. give us the scientific name of each, the season, the location and facts

on a damn table

[sharp beacon]

those long peppers are used in other cultures for medicine

[minor heart]

and this is why I didn't do ag sci

[dusky jacinth]

Yknow I kinda really wanna throw my rice out and try Nix

It’s the ADHD man

[minor heart]

but also why i can tell you ppl who use grass for osint shit are 100% valid

[dusky jacinth]

Actually fuckit I’m just gonna rewatch Mr robot

Feelin nostalgic

[minor heart]

i miss school

probably why i love academy so much

[sharp beacon]

if u have the time to spend on it

[eternal mango]

Was always interested in cultures practices, both religious and spiritual. Never put much into the plain belief, but learning about cultures that used what was around them as part of their system.

[dusky jacinth]

Academy is fun

[eternal mango]

Maybe just a hippie

[minor heart]

my cpp prof was always so hard on me but when my aid dropped he checked in on me via email and asked if everything was ok and that he really enjoyed having me in class and i should come back

🙁

[sharp beacon]

there's a book u can read

[minor heart]

even though we always argued and stuff

[eternal mango]

What book?

[minor heart]

i was hardcore into theology for a while

that humanitarian ethics

[eternal mango]

Did I tell you about when I left primary school?

[wind dew]

How do I avail of the 25% discount if I already have subscription? or does it just roll on with the next payment?

[minor heart]

no

[eternal mango]

Ok if that's an AI it's doing an ok job

if it's not an AI then just speak

When we left primary, we could choose a book to be presented in the church when leaving

I chose the I Ching

Thankfully the clergy were cool and laughed

All they can blame is the cool teacher that taught us about other cultures

[minor heart]

https://www.ox.security/blog/attackers-could-exploit-zlib-to-exfiltrate-data-cve-2025-14847/#technical_analysis

i'm sure you seen this already ya?

[sharp beacon]

the best ai

[eternal mango]

oof, I have not

Been very much asleep recently

[minor heart]

also random but you'll get the joke

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Check your GitHub accounts for repositories with the description: “Goldox-T3chs: Only Happy Girl.”

fuggin hell

[untold fiber]

@ornate ibex remind me to ban golam again

golam made a fake screenshot of my repos attacked by Shai Hulud and then had tejas send it to me

[minor heart]

also @eternal mango saw that rofl

[untold fiber]

and I had a moment of panic

[minor heart]

hahahahahahah

it's even worse bc of the description

[eternal mango]

It can always be worse

[minor heart]

ya it could be a raccoon

[eternal mango]

🤣

NO

[untold fiber]

not much worse 😂

[undone fossil]

https://fxtwitter.com/isaacturnersong/status/2005395028684984571?s=46&t=kURl1gZb0EuYV8y6S16mpw

Isaac (@isaacturnersong)

That’s just brainslop. You only came up with that by thinking

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[eternal mango]

Ok too late 🦝 🦝 🦝 🦝 🦝

[ornate ibex]

well. I got baited too. so it is okay 👉 👈

[carmine pecan]

That’s just brainslop. You only came up with that by thinking

[ornate ibex]

[terse dirge]

https://hackerone.com/reports/3480641

[minor heart]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-gif-27192372

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-yes-gif-10395007706600676370

[minor heart]

i remember this

their staff is badass

[sturdy thistle]

cause their sick of ALL ai "vulns"

[eternal mango]

curl take no prisoners

[minor heart]

they actually pay attn

There is no specific problem mentioned, just a lot of (mostly nonsensical) words written by a seemingly drunk person.

[eternal mango]

Damn, that's my CV

[minor heart]

ikr

[eternal mango]

You weren't supposed to agree

[minor heart]

no i meant it's like mine >.<

derp

[eternal mango]

Ok well.. uhm

🍻

Basically truth

[minor heart]

i am an awful resume writer

[eternal mango]

I stuck to 2 pages

but I'm told doesn't matter much since last time was 10 years ago

So very different.. which it is

[terse dirge]

https://hackerone.com/reports/3462525

[eternal mango]

First CV I remember had things about playing and hacking games lol

[minor heart]

mine was soooooooo bad

[eternal mango]

..and "going to lots of gigs"

[minor heart]

you know lesley helped me with it after

[eternal mango]

hacks?

[minor heart]

ya

I learned so much from that

[eternal mango]

Coool 🙂

[minor heart]

why do you think i have that pancakes con plaque up from their ctf xD

totally had to do the ctf after 😄

[eternal mango]

Sharing is caring. Wouldn't be here if people weren't generous with sharing knowledge, or having unlimited patience

[minor heart]

ya the community has helped me so much.

people skills are a real sore spot

[untold fiber]

if HTB didnt exist i dont even know where I would be

[minor heart]

I'd be in fuggin jail. straight up

[untold fiber]

probably back working a draining sysadmin job as a SOC analyst

HTB changed the course of my life so drastically that its really hard for me to imagine an alternate path

[minor heart]

somewhere in my timeline I'd do something dumb af

I just know it

[sharp beacon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vital linden]

i love that the foundation of the hacking community basically since its inception has been sharing knowledge

[eternal mango]

When I joined HTB, it was a time that likely saved my arse

I didn't know it, but I needed that focus

[vital linden]

oh and model trains

[minor heart]

I cried when I first started doing boxes haha

[vital linden]

its inception was model trains

[minor heart]

like physically cried

[untold fiber]

it gave me a focus, a job, had me travel to new countries, introduced me to friends I never would have met, empowered me to move across an ocean

[eternal mango]

I spent an hour or so trying to say this earlier

[untold fiber]

really wild to think about

[eternal mango]

Then I gave up because the conversation moved on

lol

[vital linden]

damn it really do be like that sometimes

idk if anyone has listened to this months darknet diaries...its pretty crazy

[eternal mango]

Wish I had

I need to set a schedule to do so

[vital linden]

my commute to work is my podcast time

[eternal mango]

My commute to work is a D20 and a CON check to get out of bed

[vital linden]

i used to work remote

then i got this job where im hybrid

[eternal mango]

Still do as much as I can

but I do miss working with people

[vital linden]

i work for a tiny company where at most theres 2 people in office

so...its basically working remote but having to go into an office

and im often alone

[minor heart]

I had such an awful day ty for this convo btw

[prisma sequoia]

I just saw your notes and they are beautiful. Very helpful to a beginner.

[minor heart]

glad they're useful!

[lofty warren]

[minor heart]

I should update my blog more

[vital linden]

im finally taking the CJCA next month...

[heady sage]

That must’ve been important for you

[prisma sequoia]

I do love that so many people have put time into writing nice reports, tutorials and post CTF notes.

[untold fiber]

we should do a humans of htb with you gob

the ten ten story is legendary lore

[eternal mango]

Please no

[untold fiber]

😂

[eternal mango]

TLDR; joining HTB helped me focus away from life events that had big bad +4

[prisma sequoia]

No one in this field would hyper focus to escape reality 👀

[eternal mango]

I mean.. not on purpose..

[undone fossil]

I met this ryan guy

[sharp beacon]

htb got me so many shirts and hoodies

and some hijinx 😄

[eternal mango]

You are a bot

[undone fossil]

Surely not

[sharp beacon]

so?

don't do that to the other ai or they will break

[heady sage]

I think that’s a wonderful idea, Whaddya say @eternal mango

[sharp beacon]

yes let's see that red beard

it will have photos right?

[eternal mango]

I'd be down

[sharp beacon]

it will say goblin or jay?

[eternal mango]

What?

[sharp beacon]

didnt u tell me that's ur name

josh or jay or something.

[eternal mango]

1/10, try harder

[sharp beacon]

to humanize u will it use your real name instead of your handle?

it's not an attempt to dox u especially if it ends up in a human interest piece

if my memory serves me correctly u were telling me to ask jack daniel about u 😉

[meager kernel]

@eternal mango hellooooo

Hruu

[eternal mango]

Gimmie a sec 22Kratos

[meager kernel]

Okie

[eternal mango]

Ok nvm I tried to make a funny

[meager kernel]

Lmao

[eternal mango]

I'm ok thanks, how're you?

[meager kernel]

I'm good too
How's your day been?

Hope you're doing well

[eternal mango]

Mostly sleep

[meager kernel]

Fair enough understandable
It's cold nowadays

I don't feel like getting out of bed

My PC is in my office upstairs and I don't feel like going to it

[eternal mango]

I did not ask you that.

[sharp beacon]

oh maybe it was the other guy, then. the one who knows him.

[eternal mango]

Ohhhh you are stretching my promise not to use / commands

[sharp beacon]

you call me a bot i call u josh

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[heady sage]

G0blin it ain’t worth it

[meager kernel]

Didn't you give up those slash command perms though?

[eternal mango]

It really isn't

[eternal mango]

Yeah.. until I by mistake banned echo

Anyway

[meager kernel]

It ain't worth interacting with trolls anyway

[eternal mango]

aye

[meager kernel]

I should go and study
I'll cya all later

Take care people

[eternal mango]

Laters 🙂 Smash it

[terse dirge]

this hard seltzer baja blast mountain dew is kinda mid tbh

it's like overly sweet, they should dial back the zero sugar sweetener tbh

[heady sage]

Go to sleep dude

[regal sigil]

HALO

[terse dirge]

no

[regal sigil]

YES

[sharp beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/subgenius-bob-dobbs-jr-bob-dobbs-church-of-the-subgenius-religion-gif-2694384023699475558

[sharp beacon]

i had to find it among a lot of posts talking about alcohol

you're right

you'll always be josh to me ❤️