general

[molten bobcat]

I genuinely cannot fathom why he is a T3

[sharp shuttle]

Perhaps you need to get a tattoo

[molten bobcat]

His work is subpar

I write way more detailed and complete reports than he does

[flat sentinel]

It can be anything, but since I like it, I want to save it. Do you have a desktop wallpaper version? Can I download it?

[sharp shuttle]

i would say he knows how to control his boss better than you, if i had to guess cloud

[molten bobcat]

I don't need to control my boss

Lol

[sharp shuttle]

you do

[molten bobcat]

I'm here to do a job and go home bro

[sharp shuttle]

they are not there for your success

[undone fossil]

aka negotiation but with some more steps

[sharp shuttle]

that might be the issue

[molten bobcat]

Why?

That's what a job is, is it not?

[undone fossil]

Realistically htb isnt the place to discuss something like this 😅

[sharp shuttle]

I see this industry as a medical profession for computers

you dedicate yourself to it

[molten bobcat]

I am dedicated to it

[sharp shuttle]

Then its not just a job

[molten bobcat]

It's my job after all

[sharp shuttle]

Its a duty

[turbid goblet]

socrates

[molten bobcat]

Don't get me wrong, I like my job a lot

[forest crest]

you work to get money or because you like what you do

[molten bobcat]

For me it's thankfully both

[sharp shuttle]

It really is that simple

[molten bobcat]

I've done a lot worse for a lot less so

My complaints are gonna be few and far between

[forest crest]

when did you start learning

[molten bobcat]

About 2020

[sharp shuttle]

You are either a mammon worshipper who shortcuts (harms others) for great pay

or you create value through a transaction called self sacrifice, and give yourself to others, and very rarely do you make alot of money doing that

[forest crest]

when you start earn Money with ?

[molten bobcat]

2020

[forest crest]

when you start learning?

[molten bobcat]

Ya

[forest crest]

what was the work

[molten bobcat]

Basic IT stuff

[forest crest]

mmm okay

[forest crest]

thanks

[exotic pendant]

Homemade pho and soft serve ice cream today

[vivid flower]

I believe if you do #2 well enough you punch through and become undeniable

[sharp shuttle]

i am of the same belief

[untold fiber]

I couldn't find the one with the new logo but oh well

[exotic pendant]

yes

[forest crest]

me i am learning it in the university

but i never work something or get money with

[sharp shuttle]

i remember when the logo wasnt an upside down unbevelled mercedes logo

also ryan you are dedicated lmfao

[untold fiber]

I had one with the new logo somewhere that I made

but I couldnt find it :/

which made it want to find it more out of spite

[sharp shuttle]

i love this guy, i love what he stands for, i love what he has his eyes set on

[vivid flower]

I think that recruiter is ghosting me

[untold fiber]

bro

its sunday

[sharp shuttle]

it just be how it is and it is what it be

[vivid flower]

Im not used to playing the game so i dont know whats normal. Everything everybody posts makes me cynical

[sharp shuttle]

to make it worse tyc, i hangout with recruiters every month for pickleball, they absolutely do work on the weekends

[untold fiber]

not between christmas and new years lmao

[sharp shuttle]

shit ryan is right

i am a bit tuned out of the holidays this year, i didnt even realize its still that lul

[molten bobcat]

I had a decent Christmas for once

[vivid flower]

He had me fill out a pre interview skill assessment questionaire. It said i only had to answer four of the questions but i answered all of them because i figured it was a shit test

[sharp shuttle]

i have a few contracts in parallel right now and no meetings for some of them

woopsie

[exotic pendant]

The holidays are among us

and like Ryan said it's sunday

[vivid flower]

Submitted no response

[exotic pendant]

When did you fill it out

[vivid flower]

Christmas

[sharp shuttle]

give them until wednesday and reach out

bro

[exotic pendant]

my guy

[sharp shuttle]

you didnt wait long enough at all

[exotic pendant]

thats 1 work day

[vivid flower]

Okay lol

[exotic pendant]

and most people have that day off

[vivid flower]

Maybe im trippin

[sharp shuttle]

recruiters take weeks to do their shit man

[exotic pendant]

so it hasnt even been a work day in some cases

[mighty willow]

the best wallpaper, i love it!

[exotic pendant]

Jan 5th

even that with the holidays

[rapid badger]

send him a couple of "Why are you not answering me ? ANSWER ME"

[vivid flower]

I've heard enough people say that I should wait , so I'll wait

[exotic pendant]

I would add an extra week

[sharp shuttle]

not even that, the company they are sending you to are also fucking off

[vivid flower]

Thanks for the perspective guys

[exotic pendant]

Put in other job applications while you wait

[flat sentinel]

this all is i really like but i see athenaos -> themes in htb logo only in center this is clean i need this

[exotic pendant]

You can always tell people "I got a better option" in the meantime

[sharp shuttle]

i figured your computer wallpaper would be anime girls playing at the beach

[vivid flower]

I'm boring I use solid black wallpapers

[sharp shuttle]

here is my current one

[exotic pendant]

i got spaceman

[flat sentinel]

No, I have a cute Chinese anime girl one, hehe.😁

[eternal mango]

GPT gave this from just the cube logo, stating a 16:9 background image

[flat sentinel]

wow nice thank

[eternal mango]

Gave up looking through the drive

[untold fiber]

not bad, try updating the prompt to specify #9fef00 as the green and #141d2b as the contrast

[untold fiber]

it has the green right I think but is using black as contrast

[sharp shuttle]

does chatgpt have a license for your branding??? i didnt think so

time to sue

[vivid flower]

Thats grim man

[untold fiber]

nice

[sharp shuttle]

its great you are getting demoralized now, before the real demoralization hits, give you a chance to spec into the fortutude skill tree and unlock resilience passive perk

[untold fiber]

too complicated

just become so nihilistic that you wrap back around to optimistic pacman style

[exotic pendant]

😄

[sharp shuttle]

yes, the demoralization ouroboros legendary ring

[undone fossil]

i feel this is a good time for the suffering builds character meme lmao

[sharp shuttle]

very coveted for speed runs

[molten bobcat]

I could just

[sharp shuttle]

heres cloud

[vivid flower]

The dark night of the soul is a neccessary part of the examined life. I have said this before and I will say it again, I am on your side @molten bobcat

[molten bobcat]

Make pork instead

[flat sentinel]

I want to ask something. I'm currently preparing to play HackTheBox, but I'm procrastinating. If I have to do it, I don't feel like doing it anymore because I'm lazy. What's the best way to approach this? I'm having trouble staying focused. Can you help?

[molten bobcat]

Set a schedule to study for an hour and put on music or something

[sharp shuttle]

just do it

[eternal mango]

Do, or do not, there is no try

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[eternal mango]

also lol

[sharp shuttle]

there is no planning, just dude it

[molten bobcat]

Salvador Dali?

[sharp shuttle]

this is kinda sick

[sharp shuttle]

i got the same impression

[untold fiber]

we should hire someone to actually paint this

[eternal mango]

Exactly, Dali

[sharp shuttle]

oh i just saw the clock

lmfao

[molten bobcat]

Well yeah it has the clock from his famous painting lmao

I was gonna say!

[exotic pendant]

Best thing you can do is find a purpose. Find something you can do and be the best at it

[untold fiber]

and then put it in the london office

[molten bobcat]

I have a purpose I'm just worried I'm not strong enough to push the boulder

[eternal mango]

Getting started is always the hardest part

[sharp shuttle]

and if the best thing you are at doing is wasting time here on htb general, keep it up

[molten bobcat]

I could just be hungry

[flat sentinel]

If I'm going to do it, I don't know if it's because I get lazy and scroll too much. I also make sure to use Obsidian for notes. While I'm working, I lose the desire to continue. I really don't even understand what's happening to me anymore?

[exotic pendant]

dont eat rocks

[sharp shuttle]

over-socialization

[molten bobcat]

Yes dear

[exotic pendant]

That ice cream was goood

[untold fiber]

hold on I have something for this

[exotic pendant]

hit the spot

[eternal mango]

Sisyphus?

[molten bobcat]

Holy shit cloud put the rock down

[sharp shuttle]

thats some grade A gravel

[molten bobcat]

I thought AI couldn't do copyright lmao

[exotic pendant]

Like the Navy seals say eat the frog

eat the boulder

[eternal mango]

A good bit of roughage

[sharp shuttle]

good one

[untold fiber]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxEyS6SQ1qTDldgXdALxs7waTyJnqtPda?si=6HWz6FPNNXWnDGMi

this is my strategy

[flat sentinel]

Really

[molten bobcat]

I have too many spots in the day where I'm left with my thoughts sorry

[untold fiber]

No I mean this literally

[sharp shuttle]

maybe my next guide should be on internal struggle

[untold fiber]

I just try to stop thinking too far in the future and just deal with whatever I have to deal with right now

[molten bobcat]

Frost pls

[flat sentinel]

That could be it. I think it's because I use Instagram too much. So I think if I mute it, it should work better.

[untold fiber]

Which breaks problems that feel large and insurmountable into small things I can deal with

[sharp shuttle]

i gave you the answer, go read up on it, be aware, change yourself, and push forward

[exotic pendant]

Things get better, they always do

2020 i thought it would never get better

[molten bobcat]

Yee.

[flat sentinel]

ohh i see thank

[molten bobcat]

I felt the same back then

[exotic pendant]

then suddenly it went up, down, up, up , down, up and boom im here

[sharp shuttle]

ill even make it easy for you

. It's a state beyond healthy integration, where conformity becomes a psychological burden, hindering genuine self-reflection and independent action, contrasting with healthy socialization which balances norms with individuality. ```
never say "i see", everybody knows thats always cope for "I have no fucking clue"

[exotic pendant]

2020 I was a homless jobless single parent at the height of covid who just recently went through divorce and had started developing heart issues

was no ezpz

[eternal mango]

Little bit of Mindfulness

[molten bobcat]

Yeh.. I ran out of money and moved back in with dad in 2020

So I get it

[eternal mango]

or wait is that term out of fashion

[exotic pendant]

and now I got a comfy life

[sharp shuttle]

mindfullness is marketing now, yeah

[exotic pendant]

[molten bobcat]

My life is pretty comfy too

[eternal mango]

f, time to find another word

[exotic pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/cozy-comfy-chihuahua-dog-blanket-gif-12070917061212767989

[sharp shuttle]

self-reflection

the scary version

[molten bobcat]

Oh random thing, octopath 0 is very very good

[flat sentinel]

Sorry, I'll read it carefully and try it out. Thank you.

[molten bobcat]

Absolutely gut wrenching voice acting performances

[eternal mango]

self positional aspect cranking

[sharp shuttle]

sure you will - but i gave you a place to start. Realize the situation you have been subjugated into, why you think you can't focus, and make changes accordingly, thats real hacking. if you cant hack that you will never do well in the industry

[exotic pendant]

every time I hear bad voice acting my mind goes to Pinocchio
https://youtu.be/Rf0PCUdVFhM?t=7

[sharp shuttle]

classic, and still true to this day

[sharp shuttle]

wat the fuck thats crazy

[flat sentinel]

That's true. Sometimes I even feel like I have no ability at all. But now, I really have to get moving.

[eternal mango]

Everyone starts with nothing

[sharp shuttle]

But will you?

[eternal mango]

Do it

[sharp shuttle]

there is a reason its called WILL-POWER

[eternal mango]

Do it because you want to, because you enjoy it

not because it's a target

[vivid flower]

Put another way most normies dont choose their ideas based on whether they are correct the way the autist does; he parses his opinions through a consensus layer. Not "is this idea right", but "is it okay for me to have this opinion"? That is how oversocialization works.

[sharp shuttle]

a better example is how only after a movie comes out do many social norms shift

i always found that fascinating

[gray wraith]

fr, ive been taking notes about ad for few hours today alrdy

[vivid flower]

Firmware update

[sharp shuttle]

basically

[vivid flower]

What really sucks is that our inbuilt need to fit into society has been reverse engineered to make us self destructive by media people continually telling us lies about what the majority of people think

[molten bobcat]

@undone fossil dms sir

[vivid flower]

So most people believe themselves to be atomized individual robots with some kind of dysfunction

[sharp shuttle]

The visual medium is very powerful. Courts actually prefer video evidence because it was found that juries dont remember the contents of the case, just what they saw, in more scenarios, and thats why there have been many wrongful convictions. The judges role is uphold the law, the juries role is to uphold the evidence and its the DA's job to persuade the jury into a conviction even if its malicious

[flat sentinel]

I'll do it. I don't want to be a lazy person. That's why I'm going to start right now. Thank you for all the advice.

[sharp shuttle]

report back on progress so we can give you support

[untold fiber]

gen chat

I need to settle an argument

Which do you think will taste better:

1. browning / sauteeing onions before adding them to a stew
2. just adding raw cut up onions to water for a stew

[sharp shuttle]

im not a cook but 2

[vivid flower]

Just add the raw onions

[untold fiber]

I should mention

if you vote 2

you get banned

[gray wraith]

1

[exotic pendant]

1

[vivid flower]

2

[gray wraith]

will bring out more flavour

[sharp shuttle]

why would you bother browning if you are just throwing it into water

[warped plank]

Y'all don't just eat your onions raw?

[sharp shuttle]

if they go in last, i would agree with 1

[untold fiber]

the maillard reaction

[gray wraith]

brings more flavour

[untold fiber]

the flavor profile from the maillard reaction will contribute to the broth

[sharp shuttle]

alright i literally dont know shit about cooking reactions

[exotic pendant]

My grandpa use to eat onions like apples

[vivid flower]

That happens anyway under high heat

[sharp shuttle]

so ill pick 1 for you ryan

[untold fiber]

ty

now I can shame someone for their lack of cookign stills ty ty

[carmine pecan]

Just opened Gen chat and I see a Guru saying that

what a day

[sharp shuttle]

fantastic, make sure you call me an expert

[warped plank]

I do that, it's noice

[carmine pecan]

That's W1LD

[untold fiber]

this is also bannable

[carmine pecan]

Ban the mods!

[untold fiber]

by virtue of

[sharp shuttle]

you are an ogre

[carmine pecan]

Where the people at

[untold fiber]

you are a literal monster

[molten bobcat]

Cat hugging me cuz I'm sadge

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hug-gif-26546176639434304

[untold fiber]

ironically, this is permitted

[sharp shuttle]

cloud you need some endorphins bro, go for a run

[molten bobcat]

It's pouring rain lmao

[carmine pecan]

Which one?

Most dopamine is released at 20 minutes mark

[sharp shuttle]

those are the best runs, i promise

[carmine pecan]

Most serotonin is released at 2 hours mark

[untold fiber]

just be very dramatic about it

[carmine pecan]

So if serotonin is what he's after

He will need to run a lot

[untold fiber]

maybe start singing in the street as a 360 camera swings around you

[molten bobcat]

How about I just cook some pork cutlets and potatoes

[sharp shuttle]

make sure everybody who sees you knows you are miserable and in pain

[untold fiber]

make a music video out of it

[sharp shuttle]

yes

[carmine pecan]

Run naked!

To the white house we go!

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/vrij-vrij-man-regen-vrijheid-gif-10171222

I DONT KNOW WHATT TO DOOOO

[untold fiber]

make sure you kneel on the ground

[untold fiber]

and start banging your fist against the ground as you look up into the sky

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/man-on-knees-screaming-no-ymiyoms-gif-1715427374379541309

WHY WAS I BORN IN THE EE UU KKKK NOOOOO

[untold fiber]

cloud

did you know

every cloud has its silver lining

[vivid flower]

The awakening of the zoomer aristocrat of the soul

[molten bobcat]

Perhap

[untold fiber]

therefor

the solution is to bath in a pool of colloidal silver

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/papa-smurf-flex-muscles-biceps-flexing-muscle-the-smurfs-gif-22348183

[molten bobcat]

Sorry I'm not trying out for The Blue Man Group

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-mercy-vegeta-raining-looking-up-dragon-ball-gif-16140175

[molten bobcat]

I can't even play the drums

[sharp shuttle]

I WILL BECOME A T3 SUPPORT> I WILL

[untold fiber]

just bang some paint around and no one will notice the difference

[molten bobcat]

T3 analyst, not T3 support lmao

Don't send me back to support I won't go back

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil675-gif-9158460721023569246

T3 SUPPORT WHEN T3 ANALYST

[carmine pecan]

I tell you what

If a woman watches Dragon Ball Z

there's two paths for her in the future

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/black-flash-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen0-jjk0-yuta-okkotsu-gif-26980706

[carmine pecan]

1. Tomboy
2. Karen

[sharp shuttle]

dbz is a red flag for any gender

[untold fiber]

I watched dbz abridged

does that count

[sharp shuttle]

did you love it?

[untold fiber]

the abridged version?

[carmine pecan]

And I will capture it

[untold fiber]

it was pretty good

[carmine pecan]

Capture all the red flags

[sharp shuttle]

hmm

ill have to think about that

[untold fiber]

I've also seen all of one piece

[sharp shuttle]

okay now thats the red flag

[molten bobcat]

I'm using neutral vegetable oil so Ryan doesn't sweat

[untold fiber]

good cloud

good boy

[molten bobcat]

Quiet you

[sharp shuttle]

her flags when she tells you she likes one piece

[untold fiber]

one piece is wild

because imagine trying to explain to someone that they really need to watch like 250 episodes before they can decide if they like it or not

[vivid flower]

Whats wrong with dbz? Its not like luffy ever becomes a dad

[sharp shuttle]

her flags when she tells you she likes shrek

[molten bobcat]

My partner showed me Hellsing lmao

[sharp shuttle]

im just fucking around, i dont judge people on what anime they like

i judge them off their relationships with their family

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-great-alucard-gif-27001898

[vivid flower]

Thats fair

[untold fiber]

hellsing ultimate isnt bad but a bit of a weird anime

[molten bobcat]

Oh for sure

[untold fiber]

do you watch anime normally

[vivid flower]

I didn't really like hellsing

[molten bobcat]

Define normally lol

[untold fiber]

I mean, like other anime on your own

[sharp shuttle]

you didnt like the badass vampire

rip

[untold fiber]

I wouldnt recommend hellsing to someone who doesnt watch anime

[molten bobcat]

Sure, I like Sakamoto Days

[vivid flower]

Im watching urusei yatsura with my gf

[molten bobcat]

Mob Psycho finished but it had a beautiful happy ending

I enjoyed that a lot

[eternal mango]

I'm sure you did

[untold fiber]

have you seen frieren

[eternal mango]

🙊

[molten bobcat]

A couple episodes

I can see why people love it

[untold fiber]

you didnt like it?

I think you should watch more of it

[molten bobcat]

I just haven't kept watching

[sharp shuttle]

ye boy ive seen frieren, outside of the anime too oh yeah baby

[untold fiber]

I watched two episodes and wasnt that into it

[vivid flower]

https://youtu.be/kJkUZQydIEY?si=td3CNov3Y4pr6ooc

[untold fiber]

but then I watched a few more one day and I started to really really like it

it went a different direction than I thought

[sharp shuttle]

my wife likes delicious dungeon

its pretty cool

[molten bobcat]

It was good

I enjoyed it

[untold fiber]

g0b do you watch anime

[molten bobcat]

Currently octopath 0 has my attention

I've never heard more realistic crying in voice acting before but man..

[sharp shuttle]

you havent watched spongebob?

[molten bobcat]

Lol

[eternal mango]

Not really, have watched some but nothing much

[vivid flower]

Is the story telling actually good though

[untold fiber]

hmmm. what shows do you like

I will recommend you 1 anime

[sharp shuttle]

g0b have you seen John Dillermand

[untold fiber]

based on your taste

[vivid flower]

I never played octopath

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/octopath-traveler-cyrus-cyrus-albright-octopath-square-enix-gif-27633700

[eternal mango]

Like my extent be things like Vampire Hunter D, which unsure if even counted as?

[molten bobcat]

CYRUS PLEASE

[carmine pecan]

bro what the heel is this

what is a N.E.E.T

[eternal mango]

It's really not a genre I have watched much at all

[molten bobcat]

Not in Education Employment or Training

[eternal mango]

Like Akira and Ghibli

but again, no idea if that counts

[sharp shuttle]

the best anime ive ever seen was probably shaolin showdown

[carmine pecan]

Oh

[untold fiber]

if you liked this I will cheat and recommend you something thats not really anime but close enough

[molten bobcat]

I liked Clay

[untold fiber]

Castlevania

[mental shell]

@little pagoda

[eternal mango]

Oh watched that of course

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/casting-fire-power-richter-belmont-edward-bluemel-castlevania-nocturne-burning-enemies-gif-7127842531456448686

[untold fiber]

Hmmmm

[molten bobcat]

God I love richter

[sharp shuttle]

cloud and richter sitting in a tree

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-dracula-graham-mctavish-castlevania-indestructible-gif-10189213848515819736

Ah. You must be the Belmont.

[sharp shuttle]

i liked castevania for that orange haired girl, god i wish that was me

[molten bobcat]

Sypha.

[sharp shuttle]

fuck yeah

[untold fiber]

Vinland Saga then

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/sypha-castlevania-gif-21799463

[eternal mango]

Not Anime, but Hilda I loved

[sharp shuttle]

noooo

cloud the OTHER ONE

[molten bobcat]

???

Oh my god no

[sharp shuttle]

yes cloud

[molten bobcat]

This is the only orange haired beauty I love

[eternal mango]

🙁

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/casting-a-spell-sypha-belnades-castlevania-sorcerer-wizard-gif-8298808378614603544

[molten bobcat]

Only orange haired woman*

[eternal mango]

Hahah

[molten bobcat]

❤️

[eternal mango]

😄

[sharp shuttle]

what a hottie

[molten bobcat]

I knew it was gonna be Lenore lmao

[eternal mango]

Total asshole though

[minor heart]

hell night

[sharp shuttle]

im easy dude

[molten bobcat]

Oh for sure is manipulative

[untold fiber]

wifey

[sharp shuttle]

i like the girls who bite back

[molten bobcat]

Next you'll tell me you like Carmilla

[untold fiber]

"she can fix me"

[sharp shuttle]

uhh let me google

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-carmilla-gif-27144141

[sharp shuttle]

oh i hated her

she crosses that line of soft femininity i like

[molten bobcat]

Alright the oven is preheated

Time to get to work

[sharp shuttle]

have fun

[sharp shuttle]

hottest anime character in your opinion

scientific question

[minor heart]

https://tenor.com/view/esdeath-gif-21684639

[sharp shuttle]

oh fuck was not expecting this, i am in agreement

[minor heart]

lol

[vivid flower]

Was looking for this vid for a bit, what i want to convey is that society puts into us a lot of really detrimental ideas and behaviours and this video explains some of them

https://youtu.be/LtCfn4AuaBg?si=SyXMeliKOOigoFk2

[minor heart]

https://tenor.com/view/power-power-chainsawman-chainsawman-power-chainsaw-man-bestgirl-power-chainsawman-trailer-gif-26396006

[vivid flower]

Like how some people are made to feel worthless or are scorned for not being in the system when really we are all being mutually crushed by the same hydraulic press

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-gif-20761426

[minor heart]

https://tenor.com/view/power-cat-chainsaw-men-sasha-gif-12259491392163945692

[eternal mango]

"Manga style comic strip journey".. does that count as Anime? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARebm0_iHE

[minor heart]

obviously granny from dan da dan

is my spirit animal

https://tenor.com/view/seiko-seiko-ayase-dandadan-ken-ken-takakura-gif-8555842647172857132

so there really isn't one

[eternal mango]

Film from when I was a kid and BBC ran a series of animated films

[minor heart]

I like women that are assholes and don't take shit

probably bc I can be like that lol

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-okarun-takakura-ken-ken-takakura-dandadan-ken-gif-2171175929131420575

I do like Okarun quite a lot

[dusky jacinth]

oml I am so unbelievably dumb

HSHSSH

[vivid flower]

Kinda why i wish you wouldnt say im the object of your hatred @molten bobcat

[dusky jacinth]

I can't believe I just spent that long just for me to redownload the vpn file

[eternal mango]

Took ages but managed to track the author / publisher and they sent me a DVD / signed book copy of it for my effort 😅 Is a cool film.

[dusky jacinth]

I thought it was my whole fucking session that was bugged

[molten bobcat]

Nice!

[left light]

hi

[eternal mango]

Not sure if it ever got put out on DVD or whatever, but yeah YouTube has it now it seems

[sharp shuttle]

you have the same taste as me

[minor heart]

well it's a diff taste for men fr

[vivid flower]

There are a lot more angles to how oversocialization actually affects us

[sharp shuttle]

thats really what i was asking you lol

[vivid flower]

And you might not understand it with just a loose feeling that society is bad

[minor heart]

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-sung-jin-woo-han-song-yi-save-gif-11984087484720774658

hands down

[sharp shuttle]

whats he from?

[minor heart]

solo leveling

[sharp shuttle]

oh right, i havemt watched that one yet

its the new SAO

[minor heart]

https://youtu.be/pJgTgY5YXP8?si=wpoEhwoKmGKHRM42

[vivid flower]

There's a formal term for this in the intelligence community called long range penetration anxiety, when you attack your neighbor because you sense something is wrong but dont know who to blame

[minor heart]

this scene. this fucking scene right here

[vivid flower]

Anyway, thank you for coming to my ted talk

[minor heart]

i resonate with that scene hard

[vivid flower]

Being me and being nice aren't mutually exclusive

[sharp shuttle]

my girl is revi, if i had to pick

https://tenor.com/view/revy-black-lagoon-anime-drinking-revy-anime-revy-drinking-revy-gif-15149118175569196462

[rose hull]

I was looking through the discord but couldn’t find a resume section, do we have one?

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-okarun-transformation-ken-takakura-turbo-granny-gif-8949161621204911092

[minor heart]

i actually do my best to be nice at all times

you really have to pull the asshole out of me

and I feel bad for whoever does

[molten bobcat]

Kindness in the face of adversity is strength

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/sailor-moon-anime-evil-beautiful-black-gif-18192822168772654639

chat who is this

please chat tell me now

is this evil sailor moon

[vivid flower]

Practicing only kindness is submission and weakness. We have seen all of your kindness but we have yet to meet your glory

Be a hawk among hawks and a dove among doves

[sharp shuttle]

im a drone among drones

EEEEEEEE

[undone fossil]

be a drone among drones and you will have braths heart

dam

beat me to it

[sharp shuttle]

fuck you jord

same wave length

[undone fossil]

nono

fuck you

[eternal mango]

We're seeing the glory

[vivid flower]

Lole

[sharp shuttle]

jord is your RSD protocol/encoder/encryption distributable?

satellites are not birds though, they are cubes on strings under the firmamanet railway system

basically yeah

[undone fossil]

oop nearly got auto-modded

[minor heart]

disagree

[sharp shuttle]

the "solar" "panels" are only large directional antennas that beam dindin ideas into your head so when you see the commercial (activation phrase) you buy mcdonalds

[minor heart]

kindness is also knowing it isn't worth the time

to argue of course xD

[sharp shuttle]

antisocial people mistake kindess as flirting, if i was a girl i would do what i can to avoid that

ie be mean

and i would attract a partner like myself

[undone fossil]

Fun question for chat, how would you define success in your life.

[sharp shuttle]

if only i could clone myself smh

[sharp shuttle]

people at my funeral

[undone fossil]

I have my answer but im interested in other's

[minor heart]

I don't think anyone wants to see me be an asshole

and you can be kind and extremely blunt

[vivid flower]

I really don't think that kindness and standing up to some form of evil is mutually exclusive. What you often see nowadays are people who decide to perform self deprecating acts of performative kindness instead of think about becoming strong

[minor heart]

I'll allow a certain amt of crap from ppl usually

[sharp beacon]

if i get someone to change for the better then i'm successful

[sharp shuttle]

extrapolate that and you have my answer

[sharp beacon]

without doing anything but being inspiring and irreverent

[minor heart]

notes @sharp beacon has entered the chat

[vivid flower]

The kind are often the first to award themselves the moral high ground and also the first to defend evil, hoping they will be passed over

[sharp beacon]

hi moo how have u been?

[minor heart]

the moment I said I could be an asshole

[sharp beacon]

the most evil lurks and is very skilled at hiding as a good guy

[undone fossil]

mine's a bit of a yap

[minor heart]

also hi just studying

[vivid flower]

This is not to say that you shouldn't be kind or that it isnt important im just saying you need strength and a willingness to protect the things you care about

[sharp beacon]

just admit i'm your favorite antihero 😛

[sharp beacon]

u still @ that cool job?

[sharp shuttle]

it takes one to know one eh?

[minor heart]

yiss

[sharp beacon]

it's my job to know and do

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp shuttle]

i get it

[sharp shuttle]

i want to know

[undone fossil]

In my case I believe more in the system that reaches success, rather than success itself. As an analogy - you start a business with the goal of reaching a million dollars. Once you reach that first million, you dont just stop what you're doing, you push further.

Thus, I believe problem solving and pushing myself (and where possible others) further is really the key, if I felt I was stagnating in my career, relationships or hobby(s) then I would see myself as not striving for success in that moment, rather harvesting the fruits of said success.

[vivid flower]

And I think the crown of such virtue is glory and pride in ones self

[minor heart]

oh am I evil then?

I like to think of myself as kind and nice :\

sometimes

[sharp beacon]

i dont mind changing behaviors by pushing boundaries

[sharp shuttle]

long-term success, well said

if only we all felt that way

[frigid mountain]

wtf is up, Cleveland?!

I mean, Denny's?

[undone fossil]

you just reminded me of a greentext

[vivid flower]

The greatest tree in the world, whose branches would reach the heavens, must have roots that reach down to hell

[minor heart]

I've hit a point where I can't really talk to people these days, so I just let them think whatever the hell they want about me

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/libby-creates-what-the-fuck-is-up-denny's-denny's-meme-lib-libby-gif-18080665704848567694

[sharp shuttle]

why do you feel that way

[maiden anvil]

interesting metaphor

or analogy whatever the hell it is

[minor heart]

love this

[undone fossil]

#general message

[sharp beacon]

cacophony2000

come baaack

[minor heart]

because I'm generally too lazy to type if we're being honest

[vivid flower]

Its Crowley

[sharp shuttle]

holy shit that spongebob meme was perfect

[eternal mango]

No fucking idea. I like others being happy and at peace, I like solving problems. Can't think of a personal aim of success, but if I can make anything better.. that works for me.

[sharp shuttle]

oh i thought you meant irl

[minor heart]

It applies IRL too

I don't think I've hung out with people in like 2 yrs

[sharp beacon]

o0

what are u studying rn moo

[minor heart]

cape

[sharp shuttle]

talking online is easy, outside of this discord i have to maintain hundreds of personalities to extract information across dozens of sock puppets, its alot of work

[undone fossil]

Honestly some nice answers to that

surprisingly wholesome for htb

[sharp beacon]

i'm doing this

[minor heart]

was whining about the first module earlier and ppl were like you need to l2 be gud

[vivid flower]

Do you really do this? Or are you just saying that

[undone fossil]

half-expected a bunch of "living past 30" or something

[sharp shuttle]

im probably joking

[minor heart]

i've met plenty of puppets, but I just can't bring myself to care enough to be an ass about it

[sharp shuttle]

mfw im locked on to a vulnerability heh

see RTO

SEE

okay im not crazy i promise

[minor heart]

;|

[undone fossil]

i also promise on brath's behalf

[vivid flower]

I should get back to crto

[minor heart]

i've found so much dumb shit

[undone fossil]

(hes crazy based)

[vivid flower]

I can't get ghostwriter to install on my vm for some reason

[undone fossil]

dam

[eternal mango]

All the best are

[vivid flower]

I'm trying to make it work with mythic , and it no workie

[sharp shuttle]

train an ai on my message history and ask it "who is brath"

[undone fossil]

as in mythic on the same vm or?

[vivid flower]

Yes

[sharp shuttle]

wait why would you try to do CRTO with mythic

???

[sharp beacon]

was just reading this blog post https://klezvirus.github.io/posts/Moonwalk-plus-plus/

[molten bobcat]

Froj I have dm'd sirge

[vivid flower]

I'm learning it as a side quest. Because it will make my game better

[sharp beacon]

i'm late because of xmas and this crto cohort i am in

[undone fossil]

i saw, busy in another vc atm and i want to give you a better answer than something i thought of in 5 seconds

🙏 🙏

[molten bobcat]

No worries thank u

[minor heart]

i don't want to read mine

[molten bobcat]

[sharp shuttle]

unless jord thinks otherwise i would highly advise against using anything but Cobalt for CRTO

[vivid flower]

Spectreops rep said i should

I'm not using it for c r t o i'm just learning it

I just can't get it to install

[sharp beacon]

i have a pdf from them i made for my friend (specter ops internal reversing writeup)

[sharp shuttle]

do you already know how to use sliver

?

[vivid flower]

I have not personally used sliver

[sharp shuttle]

i would suggest starting with sliver

[sharp beacon]

i am a ghostwriter for people sometimes. heee hehehehe

[undone fossil]

i mean the course is built around cobalt strike so i'd recommend using it if you're relatively new to the area

imo if you're unsure, you're best off using the officially supported c2 by the course as rasta wont provide support for anything else

he's a one man team so it doesnt make sense unless

[vivid flower]

At this point I'm just powerlifting all the tools i don't know because I want a job

Im also doing android app pentesting with adb and frida

[sharp shuttle]

tyc learning 4 different C2's
"I GET IT NOW OMG" "MALLEABLE PROFILES!!!"

[sharp beacon]

i talked to one of the authors of sliver and did the htb module for it

[minor heart]

oh gd

[undone fossil]

If the role(s) you're interested in are offensive-based. Feel free to fire me a dm and I'd be happy to try and give you some pointers. I wont offer unsolicited advice though

[sharp beacon]

he's behind on how bytecode works and such. it's no good dont use sliver.

[sharp shuttle]

sliver is simply profiled to hell

[sharp beacon]

joe messy or w/e his name is dont know how to do any bggp challenges 😢

his handle is moloch

[undone fossil]

Sliver isn't really suited to modern operations imo A shame since it's a very cool project, just the nature of its extensibility is kind of a pain to work with

Moreso speaking for the implant side of things

[sharp beacon]

red haired guy who was the red team director b4 going to openai earlier in the year from bishop fox is the co-author of sliver and not good at maldev so sliver can never be good unless u fork it, at which point just write your own c2.

[undone fossil]

Definitely a solid project for anything other than "must stelf" though. It's my goto for prolabs and whatnot

[sharp shuttle]

jord idk if you answered, but is your RSD encoder distributable?

[undone fossil]

It can be good, just like most c2's it requires devwork. The main pain points are:

• it uses protobuf for coms which can be a pain to work with in lower level langs
• No support for custom implants unless you set a "remote payload builder" and then just spoof your own with a custom implant behind it.
• Listener/profile customisation is a pain.
  Tl;dr it's just not really designed to be extended/modified easily with anything other than the armory system

[sharp beacon]

i think everyone should write their own c2

it's fun and u learn a lot.

[sharp shuttle]

i still think everyone should

its a rite of passage

[sharp beacon]

yes

[undone fossil]

good learning exercise, for any other purpose though i dont recommend reinventing the wheel

[sharp shuttle]

i wrote my own c2 that i use to this day for drone hacking

[vivid flower]

Fixed now he is literally me

[minor heart]

i fking asked gpt about myself just bc you mentioned the chat thing brath

rofl

[undone fossil]

There's of course niche implementations but there's always gonna be edge cases to arguments

[sharp shuttle]

yep

[sharp shuttle]

thats smart, my chatgpt has a codename and accurately predicted my mbti and marketing profile

its very impressive

[vivid flower]

Is writing your own c2 a big flex for getting a red teaming job or something

[undone fossil]

Not really

[sharp shuttle]

it also understood my dating preferences, and i hadnt ever given a hint about that

[minor heart]

ya hexie is my current

[sharp shuttle]

cipher for me

[eternal mango]

Just by name, or any hints Froj?

[undone fossil]

What's up?

[eternal mango]

From asking gpt I meant

[sharp shuttle]

wrong person?

[undone fossil]

ohhh

[eternal mango]

Oh

Shit, sorry moo..

[minor heart]

oh all good

[vivid flower]

G0bby looked at my linkedin the other day 😳

[eternal mango]

I did?

[vivid flower]

Yeah lol

[sharp shuttle]

did he add you

[vivid flower]

No ;_;

[sharp shuttle]

rip

[eternal mango]

Ok checking browser history..

[minor heart]

i asked it to tell me what kinda hacker i am rofl

[sharp shuttle]

hmm thats kinda horoscopy

[minor heart]

what an ego stroke

[sharp shuttle]

be specific

[minor heart]

i suck ass

[vivid flower]

Mickhat added me though he's a real one

[sharp shuttle]

ask it your mbti

[untold fiber]

tell it to be mean and critical

[meager kernel]

Good morning

[minor heart]

i'm an INTJ

[sharp shuttle]

what do you think i am

[rapid badger]

Mayer-briggs is horoscope for autismos

[vivid flower]

I should get an llm to profile me thats hella cool

[undone fossil]

intj with intp overlap apparently

[minor heart]

p

[undone fossil]

thanks chat jippity

[eternal mango]

Ah what's the point.. if I knew who you were on LinkedIn I would've connected lol

[sharp shuttle]

im intj as well, and many many people in cybersecurity are as well

[eternal mango]

huh

so I did

[minor heart]

it's supposed to be a super rare archetype for women or some bs

[sharp shuttle]

it is rare, and if you extrapolate this sortof horoscope-esque system, you find the majority are within this industry

[sturdy thistle]

that's my chat

[sharp shuttle]

which makes it half interesting

[eternal mango]

Rarely use LI.. rarely rarely

[sharp beacon]

i press grok on my twitter profile and whatever it says that's what i tell my uber drivers

[sharp shuttle]

did you make a waifu

[minor heart]

I expect this for mine

[sharp beacon]

no but you know what for work i had to do a bunch of ai safety testing and stuff right, and the grok that you can call on the phone is completely unsafe 😄 😄 😄

[meager kernel]

Never

[minor heart]

pro anything really

[sharp shuttle]

LOL

[sharp beacon]

they want that one to be the waifu crowd with the sexytalk to keep them engaged but it will also tell u how to make bombs and get away w/murder

[undone fossil]

i cant even argue

[sharp shuttle]

okay but jord third times the charm

[vivid flower]

Im happy my grok kind of gives me a pass because it knows i do vuln research and generates potentially malicious security stuff for me that chatgpt wouldnt

[sharp shuttle]

is your RSD encoder distributable?

[minor heart]

haha

[undone fossil]

nuh uh

[sharp shuttle]

is that a formal answer to my question?

[minor heart]

me as an rpg char with stats

[eternal mango]

Google for my name can throw up uhhm.. an undesirable

[undone fossil]

yes because im unsure what you mean by rsd in this context

[eternal mango]

but GPT seems to get the right one

[sharp shuttle]

racial slur databse

[vivid flower]

I like a girl with high WIS

[undone fossil]

YOO

[minor heart]

isn't this engrained in most women

O_O

[sharp beacon]

idk?

[molten bobcat]

Pork cutlets are almost done

[undone fossil]

yes

[molten bobcat]

I think I've done very well

[sharp beacon]

i never leave the basement so ??

[minor heart]

oh there are so many memes about it

[vivid flower]

Oh my god this is a real site

[merry marsh]

hey guys I had a question, did hackthebox help yall with your careers? I'm a high schooler wanting to get into cyber security and came across HTB

[sharp beacon]

yes it's an excel spreadsheet

[sharp beacon]

no but if i see someone with the cert i think they are cooler than oscp holders and know more

[merry marsh]

bet thx

[sharp beacon]

do it because it's cheaper + more information / better labs than oscp

[minor heart]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBL_4gcvPnn/?hl=en

eva.pepaj

Very comforting yet disturbing @thejaviergabriel

Likes

1456113

Instagram

see literally a meme

[sharp beacon]

htb gives a student discount @merry marsh

[merry marsh]

alr

Whats the path yall took to get oyur first cert

[sharp shuttle]

ride or die

[merry marsh]

just HTB or did yall do a company like comptia

[eternal mango]

Honest answer

[sharp beacon]

i only have certs to critique the authors in a secret infosec authors shit talking channel

[minor heart]

man people get certs and like get super inflated egos sometimes

it's wild af

[merry marsh]

I mean they are hard to get

[warped plank]

Which cert is at the bottom of the list?

[eternal mango]

McDonalds menu

[eternal crystal]

ce-

[sharp beacon]

pffft. do the certs they are lame compared to real life

[minor heart]

It's not a matter of hard or not: It's just not a very impossible thing to do

[minor heart]

i'm studying for the cape and I have the gift card for the cpts and i got the free cjca voucher

[warped plank]

When I did my cert I realized how stupid and dumb I am and felt even dumber and stupider when it ended

[merry marsh]

I'm doing research for the DOJ, I left the project a while ago but they are working to match work roles with certs so it might help in the future, idk the full work of it though

[sharp beacon]

pentest+ /gpen

[merry marsh]

mmm

[warped plank]

I swear I'm at the bottom of the Dunning Kruger effect

[merry marsh]

whys that

[minor heart]

My point is to not let certs define you

[sharp shuttle]

have you seen my guide to cybersecurity? ill just post one segment:

[tidal saffron]

Hey does anyone know how I can get in contact with support its like it got straight up disabled for me.

[merry marsh]

but how else do you seperate yourself outside of research, theres no cyber major

[warped plank]

Mainly because I thought I understood concepts and tools until I actually had to use them, I basically had to re-learn 6 months worth of content while taking the exam.

Also I developed a ton of bad habits doing labs, thinking I know what to expect on the exam.

[untold fiber]

Support is at heavily reduced capacity atm and for some its unavailable

[merry marsh]

and itll take 4 years till I start my masters and god knows what will happen to this field in a few years

[minor heart]

with my work.

[sharp beacon]

the best advice i ever got is learn how to make stuff. learn to program and learn to use a debugger. 😛

[merry marsh]

oh god

[minor heart]

there actually are cyber majors - most are dated

[merry marsh]

howd you learn

[untold fiber]

They will be back in full capacity after the new year but if its critical you can email [e-mail]

[merry marsh]

not from the big colleges

[sharp beacon]

being curious, and meeting curious people. it's like magic

[minor heart]

define big college

[merry marsh]

alr

[minor heart]

where are you located?

[merry marsh]

like ut austin doesnt have one. cmu

[warped plank]

Cyber major ain't gonna help anyway. Some skills have to be learned through experience, they can't be taught

[merry marsh]

they have research not like majors

[sharp shuttle]

bigger tuition, same degree (collection of pearson/vue comptia bullshit)

[merry marsh]

but you have to get certs to get that experience

[sharp shuttle]

youve been tricked into thinking you will learn jack shit about cybersecurity in a college setting

[sharp beacon]

some teachers are really good

[minor heart]

lawd.

[merry marsh]

mmm

[minor heart]

I was qualified to take like 12 of those certs

[tidal saffron]

Can agree with this... I am a CS Major and Cyber is like relearning to count

[warped plank]

You can realistically get the same experience by experimenting on your own, you got all the world's information in the palm of your hands, you just gotta mix that with FAFO and you'll get far

[merry marsh]

its impossible to get a cyber major in this era

i mean comp sci

[sharp shuttle]

cyber isnt a major, its not even accredited at a single institution dude

[molten bobcat]

That's not true

[sharp shuttle]

its the wild west

[tidal saffron]

No, its very much possible

[molten bobcat]

??

[sharp beacon]

one of the solvers of my phrack puzzle won a coin for it and won a coin for the EFF one on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/phrack/comments/1n4x83q/phrack_challenge_coin_bonus_puzzle_eff_edition/) and the the coolest thing he did was give one of the coins to his professor from college who inspired him to solve puzzles for fun 🙂

[molten bobcat]

That's just not true lmao

[minor heart]

they have some that are considered cybersec majors but again, it's not really great

[merry marsh]

then what does purdue have then

[minor heart]

you're better off doing CS

or eng. and pivoting after

[sharp shuttle]

a scam

[merry marsh]

unt also have a cyber major

[untold fiber]

plenty of accredited universities have cyber majors

[untold fiber]

its literally ABET accredited

[sharp shuttle]

oracle and pearson and microsoft selling you trash certs disguised as a college experience

[minor heart]

yea by the time i even got to the chall and got a response - someone had it

[untold fiber]

you might not like the degree

but its no more a scam than a CS degree

[warped plank]

My cybersecurity class was honestly the stupidest class I've ever taken, it ended with everyone just presenting: how not to get phished, or how to use a password manager, or how to use MFA. Essentially just told us that people are the weakest point in cyber and no matter how much you train em the best you can do is try to mitigate their insecure practices with technology.

[sharp shuttle]

the program is NOT accredited, the certifications in the bundle ARE

[sharp beacon]

yea i'm talking about amnesia giving their coin away to their teacher for getting them into everything and js.. college is good for some people. it really depends on who the teacher is.

[minor heart]

@sharp beacon sorry I gave up ;[

[merry marsh]

how did yall learn cyber

what helped the most

[warped plank]

Labs

a lot of labs

[merry marsh]

from where

[molten bobcat]

That's just misinformation

[merry marsh]

like pico?

[warped plank]

HTB

[sharp shuttle]

imagine reading the google/chatgpt summary

[merry marsh]

ohhh the htb labs

[untold fiber]

the BS itself is ABET accredited

[tidal saffron]

Best way is do labs but make a lot of mistakes and find ridiculous hairbrained reasons to tinker with things that'll break and require you to fix them.

[minor heart]

I started by tearing down my 386 hp and was teaching myself web crap

[molten bobcat]

Never even opened Google brah

[untold fiber]

plus NCAE

[sharp shuttle]

lord almighty you guys cant be seriously defending this

[sharp beacon]

a good teacher will last you the rest of your life.

[minor heart]

my mom almost had a damn heart attack

[minor heart]

my profs were amazing

[untold fiber]

you claimed that there is no accredited cybersecurity degree which is false

[molten bobcat]

I've literally worked in higher education lmao

[minor heart]

i love them. i'm friends with em to this day

[untold fiber]

its accredited by literally every accreditation body that matters for degrees

[merry marsh]

howd oyu learn the basics

[untold fiber]

you can say its a bad degree sure

[merry marsh]

without doing classes

[sharp shuttle]

you think its okay to put people through a gauntlet of comtpia certs and slap accredited on it?

[untold fiber]

but its no more a scam than any other degree

[merry marsh]

or did yall learn the basics in classes and then just work from there

[minor heart]

literally by breaking shit

[molten bobcat]

Bachelor's has way.. way more than just CompTIA lmao

[merry marsh]

breaking shit?

[eternal mango]

Experience is something you can gain yourself with enough persistence and curiosity. Yes, some benefit from structured education such as college etc, but you can gain as much through your own steam if you're able to follow that path of research and practice. So much easier now, given the platforms out there that provide legal and validated practical environments.

The core to the autodidact is curiosity, the ability to research and to turn that knowledge in to practical use.

[tidal saffron]

Reading a lot of books on the basics and apply them against something like a rasberry pi.

[minor heart]

yep

[sharp shuttle]

yes, it has oracle and Microsoft azure, i know

[molten bobcat]

You're incorrect

[merry marsh]

define breaking shit

[sharp shuttle]

please explain

[warped plank]

Just gotta read a lot while fucking around with labs ngl

[molten bobcat]

Did you know I've literally enrolled in this course

Lmao

[sharp shuttle]

I was too

at WGU

[minor heart]

I'd try to teach myself something by learning how it works - break it - learn how to fix it

[merry marsh]

alr, do you have any recs

[tidal saffron]

Comptia is like the McDonalds of Certifications

[molten bobcat]

That sentence makes no sense

[tidal saffron]

Over the wire is a really good start

[molten bobcat]

Certs are certs and shitting on them because you happen to be more advanced than the knowledge contained in the cert is frankly, gay and lame

[untold fiber]

Taking your experience from WGU any using it to make statements about other programs like that at purdue is a bit wild my guy

[minor heart]

like you ever say oh man, htf does this <insert random object> work and torn it down?

[untold fiber]

now that said, I also had a bad experience with cybersecurity degrees in uni

[merry marsh]

I like the website you made its hella clean

[untold fiber]

though I know the program I attended is vastly improved now

[warped plank]

I recommend just tryin everything, learn networking, learn operating systems, learn web, learn active directory, get familiar with the bare minimum with each of them, then from there start going deeper, on a single topic, if you feel you're too deep to understand go swap to another one.

[merry marsh]

ok thanks

[sharp shuttle]

its not even worth arguing, you win

i admit defeat

[warped plank]

The key here is to give your brain enough time to process and allow yourself to experiment with concepts that you can only learn by doing. Start by reading learn by doing.

[merry marsh]

thats alot, where should I start or just on the way I will learn, sorry i'm pretty lost loll

[minor heart]

like let's say I wanted to learn what's in a toaster - and i took the toaster apart ... but then i'd be like - oh shit. i need to USE my toaster - i'd have to learn how to put it back together again ya? @merry marsh and ty

[untold fiber]

in my program

[sharp shuttle]

you guys are right, lets tell this poor guy to go to college

[untold fiber]

basically every class was the same

[warped plank]

just pick one, doesn't matter which one, they'll all rely on each other sooner or later, recommend networking though.

[merry marsh]

ohhh thats what you meant when you broke a computer

[untold fiber]

to the point that I submitted the same essay on how password hashing works like 3 times

[minor heart]

I'm dead serious I learned a lot that way haha

[untold fiber]

to three different classes

[sharp shuttle]

hey man the program is accredited, you should go into 100k of debt to not have a job lined up afterwards, you got this!

[merry marsh]

alr

[untold fiber]

It's no different than any other degree lol

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sneak-sneaky-spy-creeping-gif-5325327

[untold fiber]

Look at the circiculum and see what it entails

[sharp shuttle]

if you are getting a degree, get a degree in comp sci or math

[untold fiber]

Look at placement outcomes

[merry marsh]

[sharp shuttle]

dont bother with cyber security

[untold fiber]

comp sci and math are not as good as they used to be

[merry marsh]

im trying to get a comp eng degree

[untold fiber]

especially math

[sharp shuttle]

true, they all suck

[molten bobcat]

Purdue global is the cheaper alternative btw

[sharp shuttle]

but you will learn more in cyber with that foundation

[minor heart]

ya

[untold fiber]

it completely depends on the uni

[molten bobcat]

So no there's not gonna be $100k of debt

[untold fiber]

and the ciriculum

[sharp shuttle]

it depends on the teacher

[untold fiber]

there is no way to make a general statement

[sharp shuttle]

more than anything else

[sharp shuttle]

i can, actually: dont go to college

[minor heart]

I will say that things are very different these days.

[warped plank]

college imo is not a place to learn a lot, it's a place to network, getting connections and meeting people. If you get a good teacher sure you'll learn something here or there but realistically you'll get a teacher that doesn't even wanna be there

[terse dirge]

that's closer to electrical engineering than cyber btw

[untold fiber]

🤷‍♂️

[merry marsh]

yeah its changing really fast, its like running on ice

[minor heart]

you can absolutely learn a lot from college but the trick is learning how to learn

[sharp shuttle]

you go to college to get laid and make friends, everything else is secondary and meaningless

[untold fiber]

I'm a dropout and I still think college is the right decision for some people

[merry marsh]

ik, im not relying on my degree to get a cyber job, its more of a fall back

[untold fiber]

and the wrong decision for others

[molten bobcat]

I got a degree, several certs, a job, and friends for life :/

So you do you man lmao

[minor heart]

I loved college. it opened doors for me

[merry marsh]

howd you get into cyber then

[warped plank]

I hate college, they're getting us to pay to do work that they also get paid for...

[sharp shuttle]

it is indeed the best way to be a debt slave in the era where we all file bankruptcy and cannot dissolve the college loans -> military service pipeline

[molten bobcat]

The only actual reasonable argument for/against college is "decide if college is right for you"

[untold fiber]

It's debatable whether I am in cyber at all

[molten bobcat]

Because it's literally person by person dependent

[minor heart]

absolutely no one would even give me a chance at a reg IT job until my degree

[untold fiber]

I had a lot of past experience in sysadmin / IT / programming and then eventually learned pentesting through HTB with the intent to become a pentester

but I ended up working at HTB instead

[minor heart]

so let me preface this and say I'm older, so I do feel women were looked at a bit more harshly back then

[molten bobcat]

I have my current job as an analyst because of a teacher who believed in me

[untold fiber]

I do a lot of cyber-related work but I'm more security adjacent than literally in security

[minor heart]

when I came back and did my degree the whole field had changed for a lot of women

[merry marsh]

bottom line is the game has changed alot I dont believe college is a scam, it could help you connect alot, like co ops, and job line ups. College isnt jsut to learn but to get shi done, learning is the bare minimum

[maiden anvil]

my adult life started with getting kicked out from the trailer park and homeless

[minor heart]

it was an extremely healthy experience for me

[maiden anvil]

now Im a pentester and absolutely no thanks to anybody other than myself

[minor heart]

I was living in a homeless shelter

[molten bobcat]

The folks at PG are very polite and understanding from my experience with them

[sturdy thistle]

welcome to the club lol

[minor heart]

quite literally and I told one of the councilors if they paid for my college application I would graduate

and I did.

I worked at Burger King 35 hrs a week studied at work at times, was pregnant with my son and was raising my daughter

[untold fiber]

if I hadn't taken a job at HTB I'd probably be a senior level pentester at this point

but TBH I'm glad I did

[sharp beacon]

i went to college from 8th grade and skipped high school irl

[molten bobcat]

Without college I'd still be taking care of the elderly and disabled.

[rustic carbon]

would you go back and do it again if you had to get a job in the current climate @minor heart

[merry marsh]

oml ur a superwoman

[untold fiber]

I think I enjoy this work more and my career is certainly better off for having come here

[sturdy thistle]

otherwise i wouldn't had u as my former manager

[maiden anvil]

i couldnt have this opportunity because I didnt have a popular town last name

[minor heart]

yes

because I love what I do

[sharp shuttle]

genuine advice: you have two real paths (this is my highly opinionated statement) with real consequences

1. Go to college, get laid, find a wife, network with the rich kids, be their friends, graduate with ANY BS, it doesnt even matter

if you fail to do this, you now have a loan you cannot get rid of and it will probably be used against you in horrific ways in the near future. the degree does not guarantee a job

2. Take your tuition money and buy chatgpt pro, all these resource sites like HTB paid programs, get certs, hang out in the communities, learn everyday, and get a job through THIS network

your parents will shame you for not going to college, you will have a worse social life (for now) and you will be much more lonely. if you are dedicated, this is the best choice

[molten bobcat]

Lmaooooo

[sharp beacon]

we'll always have paris

[eternal mango]

Oh my

[merry marsh]

what did college do to you damn

[molten bobcat]

My god you did not just tell this brother to spend his tuition on freakin chatgpt

Lmaoooo

[sharp shuttle]

yes i did

are you seious?

[untold fiber]

I mean

[molten bobcat]

Yes I am serious lmao

[untold fiber]

realistically

[sharp shuttle]

cloud you are so foolish sometimes

[rustic carbon]

I meant do you think it'd make sense to go through the same steps

[untold fiber]

its a pretty good investment

[minor heart]

I've had an extremely messed up life and it's still kind of surreal

[untold fiber]

I'm with brath on this one

[molten bobcat]

I disagree

[terse dirge]

I wonder if brath's SO is that grok ai thing

[merry marsh]

made it out tho thats what matters

[minor heart]

I went from homelessness to actually owning a home

[untold fiber]

ChatGPT is probably the single greatest studying tool to ever have existed in the history of mankind

[minor heart]

I had no choice in the steps.

[molten bobcat]

I've made it a point to not use it at all

[sharp beacon]

i went from struggling to flourishing by putting my plants in a milsbo tall greenhouse cabinet

[untold fiber]

despite what anyones personal feelings are on gen AI

[sharp shuttle]

you are a fool

[rustic carbon]

Sure but if you had to start fresh today

[molten bobcat]

Then I'll die a fool ig

I don't trust it

[minor heart]

I actually was locked out of credits when I was homeless because I tried to go when I was younger and was not allowed

[untold fiber]

yes but this is a stance taken from a personal point of pride

[minor heart]

I found a loophole