general

[obtuse fern]

the questions are heavily leading; and the reading itself is the walkthrough

after you get to highest privs in the domain, then go back and see if you can't clean anything up (i.e. some web stuff on the outside)

[silver forge]

I know I know. It's just that I have trouble concentrating for long time enough. the way things work for me I can be pretty focused for couple hours, and complete extremely complex stuff. couple hours later I'm playing vidya and can't undestand any of what I had just done.

[obtuse fern]

i felt that

[carmine pecan]

i felt that

[obtuse fern]

just take note of whenever you need a nudge, and what for

[silver forge]

for example; I have written code I simply can't understand today

[obtuse fern]

that way you can better prep yourself for the exam

[silver forge]

it works, but I don't know why

[obtuse fern]

that's just normal for devs

[carmine pecan]

less normal for pentesters

[silver forge]

I built an ACL system for extending any object with ACLs using Go before generics were a thing using the introspection API. It's literally so complex I doubt almost anyone can understand it, but for some reason it works.

All I recall was I drunk coca cola.

[fair drift]

No but I have been struggling with documentation and notes, not sure how to approach it at all because I am lazy, but you inspired me for a few cool ideas. My documentation is currently a bunch of colab notebooks, which is extremely unconventional if I am not mistaken

[cerulean bloom]

@obtuse fern cuz I've been hearing conflicting opinions

[carmine pecan]

actually I am grok

[silver forge]

I mean, you have to know a bit of programming (c/python preferably) and operating systems basics. It's a pentesting course, not computers 101.

[carmine pecan]

when you ask grok a question it's me answering

[cerulean bloom]

I mean like does the learning path prepare you well for the exam

[sturdy thistle]

last working day this year

[silver forge]

Pretty well if you do all the labs.

[obtuse fern]

the main thing that i've seen from a fair bit of people is that it wasn't the course, it was their methodology. A solid methodology allows wiggle room for unexpected problems, such as researching something that was mentioned/talked about in the course but you may not have actually exploited in the course

[cerulean bloom]

I see

[silver forge]

Time to eat xmas schnitzel and drink xmas beer ?

[obtuse fern]

practice doesn't hurt, but you should look at it as beefing up your methodology, not necessarily focusing on the methods

[cerulean bloom]

gotcha, gotcha

taking notes

[proper fractal]

scrypt.js in obsidian's apk is interesting

bbl

[obtuse fern]

The exam doesn't tell you what's vulnerable - like how you would with the modules. So you have to have a methodology capable of going through the stages of information gathering, vuln assessment, exploitation, post-exploitation, lateral-movement, etc.

[silver forge]

Maybe it's me who is vulnerable to your smile

[proper fractal]

hot

[obtuse fern]

The reason I failed was a combination of factors, one of which being my burnout

[subtle plover]

@obtuse fern exploit this vulnerability

[silver forge]

Try to find exploit from metasploot

[proper fractal]

set x = x 1234; the value of x is null wyd

[fair drift]

That applies to all exams including blue-team ones right?

[cerulean bloom]

gotcha, gotcha

gotta also be able to google well

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-monkey-orangutan-smiliong-orangutan-ape-gif-21939747

[proper fractal]

google.com/advanced_search helps

[obtuse fern]

can't speak for the other exams, but i'd assume it's the same. It'd be kinda whack if the exam gave you direct hints for the flags

[subtle plover]

Were not tryhackme

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/852896269277462588.webp?size=32&animated=true

[obtuse fern]

one of my biggest suggestions is PURPOSEFULLY fuck something up and document the error and fix

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-popcorn-eating-catgif-miaow-gif-2978676603251784491

[cerulean bloom]

wdym

[fair drift]

You're HTB

[subtle plover]

Im bingbong

[silver forge]

ai slop 🙁

[proper fractal]

where are the free certs womp womp

[obtuse fern]

say you have a cgi vuln; one of the errors i documented was case sensitivity

[subtle plover]

This is not tryhackme

@scrubz bring these skids to your server

[obtuse fern]

i managed to not fuck it up the first time i did it

[fair drift]

You're kim jong un

[proper fractal]

If it were I'd be stuck on the banned page

[obtuse fern]

however, i tested different things

[cerulean bloom]

uhuh

[subtle plover]

Same

[obtuse fern]

much like 'what if I accidently did a typo'

[cerulean bloom]

scrubz has a server?

[obtuse fern]

what behavior can I expect

that way if I DO fuck up during the exam, I'm not panicking about errors

[proper fractal]

tampermonkey said it's ok to block the request tho

[cerulean bloom]

I see

this isn't for the report, right?

just for personal notes?

[obtuse fern]

correct just for personal notes

[cerulean bloom]

ahhh, ok

[proper fractal]

for ethical research !

[obtuse fern]

htb gives you vulnerable labs that only you can break

so you don't have to worry about breaking it for another user

[proper fractal]

pushes api keys to production git

[cerulean bloom]

can you restart those labs if you do accidently break them?

[obtuse fern]

because if you brick it hard enough -> just reset

[cerulean bloom]

ahh, yeah

reset

[obtuse fern]

i'm referring to the module labs

btw

not main platform

[cerulean bloom]

oh lol

[proper fractal]

hey donut you should try lastresort

[cerulean bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[obtuse fern]

if you're not on VIP+ you're in the wild west and should not be breaking everything you touch

[proper fractal]

ive been stuck on it for 95 hours

[sturdy thistle]

Xmas coffee

[cerulean bloom]

luckily, I have VIP+

[obtuse fern]

noice improvement :)

[subtle plover]

I need a tryhackme coffee

[sturdy thistle]

Slowly getting there

But actually @silver forge u wanna know a German tradition

[obtuse fern]

anyway thanks for coming to my TED-Talk i'm shutting my laptop down and going to bed. Can't update my VM just yet to parrot7 unless I want to download and create a new VM

[cloud osprey]

keep trying

[cerulean bloom]

[carmine pecan]

nice latte art

[cloud osprey]

its 1000% real i found it on bing

[carmine pecan]

grok% real

[meager kernel]

I keep forgetting that I have to give the THM exam

That I bought

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[cerulean bloom]

PT1, or SAL1

[meager kernel]

PT1

[cerulean bloom]

makes sense

[meager kernel]

A fucking AI graded exam

[carmine pecan]

well

Do you prefer AI grading or stupid idiosicrantic underpaid human grading blindly following an arbitrary checklist?

because those are pretty similiar if different

[meager kernel]

Pretty sure in HTB they grade the exams well

Atleast I hope so

[carmine pecan]

yes in HTB its well done

but HTB has 💰

ask Marcie

what's her Mods salary

[proud moth]

lmao i just found out that a random dude on tiktok managed to remove the redaction from some of the epstein files i am dying right now LMAO

[carmine pecan]

he's dead

[proud moth]

one of the FBI bros didn't the read the academy module about reporting correctly 💀

[sturdy thistle]

speaking of academy, i might do it on vacation

[cloud osprey]

vacation to where?

[devout sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1268024068137816085/1453175495876153477/20251223_190123.jpg?ex=694c7ea4&is=694b2d24&hm=347391308df81e8c3468861c02513516f96ade5050cb730f118df42afee0195d&

[sturdy thistle]

ok holidays? xD

the heck i know the right terms

days off during christmas

[proud moth]

FBI bro would fail the CPTS report

[cloud osprey]

yes but are you coming to atlanta?

[sturdy thistle]

i wish i could

[devout sail]

And it actually works on few docs xD

[proud moth]

lmao

[meager kernel]

Yea that happened

You copy paste the stuff into a text file

It removes the marker thing

[proud moth]

somebody needs to do a HTB box based around this idea

and call it "FBI"

[meager kernel]

I read somewhere that it was because Elon Musk cut out the funding for Adobe PDF reader Pro
The free version has the weird redaction which gets removed
The Pro version has actual redaction

[proud moth]

lmaooo

[meager kernel]

This is what happens when you have a government run by criminals

[cloud osprey]

ill never forget my first bsides i went to, the NSA set up a table with a bunch of phone chargers for anybody to use

[meager kernel]

One of the docs had evidence that Trump impregnated a 13 year old, i think

[devout sail]

Polithiks?

In general

[proud moth]

nah they just need to read HTB academy

[meager kernel]

It's well known by anyone with more than 50 IQ that most politicians are criminal

Not just in US

But in most other countries too

[proud moth]

lmaoooo

holy hell what a confidence boost

[silver forge]

they always do that as meme

[proud moth]

turns out the FBI and the NSA are just as bad as everbody else in cybersec

frosto needs to teach them a lesson

[meager kernel]

They're incompetent

[cloud osprey]

its like the old saying that everybody loves military grade gear, except the people in the military that have to use it

[meager kernel]

Military grade gear is just another marketing term for "this will break in some time, just outside the warranty period"

If you look at it, most people in tech field are incompetent
It's the job of cybersec to point out that incompetence

[devout sail]

Construction worker grade last longer than your life

[devout sail]

Manager ahh role

[cloud osprey]

every job ive ever had, there is always at least one guy that im like, how did they even get this job, much less how have they even survived to the age they are

[devout sail]

Point out and laugh?

[meager kernel]

I've seen multiple of them in college

[cerulean bloom]

what is construction worker grade

[torn cedar]

I'm renaming you to Preacher Kratos

[torn cedar]

Made for construction workers

[meager kernel]

I helped a guy switch on his computer during our practicals, he couldn't figure out the PC's power wire was unplugged

He claimed to know alot about computers

[cerulean bloom]

ah, gotcha

[torn cedar]

IT 101

[cerulean bloom]

lol

[viscid sparrow]

Topology? LMAO it’s impossible to understand

[meager kernel]

Right when I was about to switch to Arch

[viscid sparrow]

This is beyond my understanding, I lump it into complex math 🗿

Nvm that’s vector calculus

Damn

[torn cedar]

Womp womp

[undone fossil]

#general message

[meager kernel]

LMFAO WHAT THE FUCK

ONE OF THE BEST THINGS IVE READ IN A WHILE HAHAHAHAHA

[upbeat tangle]

So, with manifest v3 on chromium... Is it Firefox thats going to remain the king of browsers?

[viscid sparrow]

Tor yum

[proper fractal]

yes use the navy web for ur markets

muwahaha

i mean what

[viscid sparrow]

I can’t believe it’s so easy to see illegal and traumatizing stuff with tor

Smh

I feel like Firefox vs chrome is an example of why it’s better to keep the consumers uneducated

[cerulean bloom]

I'm thinking of switching to brave

[viscid sparrow]

Cuz Mozilla has tried other stuff like pocket cuz of some complex Google shenanigans and their funding might get cut

[upbeat tangle]

What are you talking about uneducated? Im talking about the latest update on chromium "security" that basically makes some extensions not work anymore

[viscid sparrow]

So they tried to diversify their like revenue and stuff

Google/chrome can get away with shitty updates

But as soon as Mozilla tries anything some dedicated users create other forks of browsers like librewolf tor and more

Or custom Firefox hardening

Even if they don’t know how to create their own browser fork (like 99.9%) they (Firefox users) still know those options exist

They’re not dedicated to Firefox, they’re more dedicated to the philosophy lol

Oh yeah tor was not the one I was thinking of mullvad browser (like the VPN company)

Tor is based off of Firefox but obviously that’s completely different

[winged kettle]

hi sleep ily

[proper fractal]

hello

[winged kettle]

🥰

[proper fractal]

you can use tor on chrome

[glad hemlock]

Hi everyone! Please tell me what are the benefits of letsdefend becoming part of hackthebox?

[proper fractal]

tor is completely different from firefox thing is wrong tor browser is literally firefox esr with some privacy patches and tor baked in it still uses the same engine tabs ui and everything saying its completely different is like saying a honda civic is completely different from a honda accord just cuz it has a spoiler and new tires tor equals firefox plus tor stuff js

[heady sage]

Google is a hell of a drug

[placid torrent]

It has some good cyber defense content, their gallery is good, give or take you’ll get similar content over tryhackme

[heady sage]

Especially if you know…you use it

[placid torrent]

HTB academy is superior atm
Whatever modules it offers, its the best

[proper fractal]

site:target intxturl:object blahrandomstringgoeshere

google dorks are lyfe bruh lol

[viscid sparrow]

I don’t imagine it’s an awfully popular option considering tor users are opsec freaks who treat Google like RFK supporters treat “big pharma” lol

[viscid sparrow]

True

[proper fractal]

true i don't use tor much now days i use zeronet

[viscid sparrow]

Tor rerouting through onion the latency is really bad

Also u can’t have ANY extensions in fear of fingerprinting

Different philosophy from firefox imo

[proper fractal]

why not just use the alphabuild in the terminal

[cerulean bloom]

Vader, why are you awake at this hour lol

[proper fractal]

oh that's weird the mix im playing is playing starwars dubstep rn lmfao oh the irony

[cerulean bloom]

lol

[proper fractal]

https://soundcloud.com/user-982381009/top-10-car-bass-music-2017-bass-boosted-songs-for-your-car?si=c32c4fc0b3f84c23a63c7f4d76f43d62&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing skip to 16:47 lmfao not even joking

[glad hemlock]

When I log in to the LetsDefend platform, it says “LetsDefend is now part of HackTheBox.” Maybe this means there will be a shared subscription, or perhaps completing courses on LetsDefend will give bonus rewards on HackTheBox.

[proper fractal]

AthenaOS lets u use hackthebox from the terminal i hear allegedly

[placid torrent]

That’s up to the management and executives to decide, but for the time being, SSO works either ways once you connect your account on either of the platform, I am also curious what lies ahead of this scheme

[glad hemlock]

all right thanks

[heady sage]

I ain’t telling

[cerulean bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

alrighty

[heady sage]

I’m not drinking if that’s what you’re thinking

[cerulean bloom]

I'm not thinking anything lol

[undone fossil]

I’m thinking everything

Accusing you of 50 accounts of all crimes

[tough abyss]

y0

gm chat

[sharp shuttle]

hello 0x3783!;!,7!:!/'aosucycunfbfrusueiien67655jj78866889&63$83

[lime trout]

It wont be anything for a while tbh

its gonna take some time

[placid torrent]

Indeed

[cerulean bloom]

I did see that LetsDefend had a Sec+ prep course

@austere sinew daily pingggggggggggggg

[proper fractal]

U+3783

I like 0x100 tho

[devout sail]

Guess mine

Its in my pronouns

[proper fractal]

01001000 01100101 01101100 01101100 01101111 00100001

[devout sail]

Hmmmm

It's 0xb00b 😔

[proper fractal]

rofl

[devout sail]

This is the unicode of that

[cerulean bloom]

that's ................. koraen

[devout sail]

So not 0x but U+.. ig? Idk the difference

[cerulean bloom]

at least, looks like it

[lime trout]

Koraen? isthata a new language?

/s

[proper fractal]

It could be with zenity

[devout sail]

\ub00b yes

[cerulean bloom]

how dare you tarnish the reputation of this great country /s /j

[devout sail]

Bam

[lime trout]

Which korea am i tarnishing

[cerulean bloom]

south

[lime trout]

nah theyre chill

[meager kernel]

why are you in these servers

[cerulean bloom]

we chill

[meager kernel]

horny ass mf

[proper fractal]

makes an encryption lang of just grammatically incorrect ethnicities

nvm emoji overflows it is

[cerulean bloom]

yesssssss, I know my own language

[supple plume]

I just join to steal the emojies

[meager kernel]

liar

[proper fractal]

Well I started many moons ago on xanga then myspace then aol yahoo facebook and skype now we are here

oh wait i forgot about icq

and ventrillo

[cerulean bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-huh-gif-5026055331259108593

[proper fractal]

myspace won't even let u upload photos no more 🙁 and i have a 3 letter one 😭

[supple plume]

[sharp shuttle]

i was on raidcall before you yuncs had this shit, teamspeak before that, skype before that, conference mode on landlines before that, irc before that

spoiled yet so robbed

[proper fractal]

I was on america online

and ymail

[sharp shuttle]

i was on aim too, that was during the landline phase

and was my inevitable fall into those eyes.. those fucking eyes

[proper fractal]

i still have some really nice sns for that

i have a one letter aol acc

[sharp shuttle]

why so many accounts?

[proper fractal]

I collected them

[lime trout]

did u have a party line

[sharp shuttle]

nope, but my friend did

[proper fractal]

ppl used to call them to talk sht to each other rofl

[lime trout]

damn

1900's shit

[proper fractal]

your connected say hello

[lime trout]

You've got mail

[proper fractal]

i miss lifestream.aol.com

you could tweet from it

[sharp shuttle]

i miss amy...

my first love

[cerulean bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-the-simpsons-i-dont-know-who-that-is-idk-i-dont-know-gif-7791074877548379610

[cerulean bloom]

ah

[proper fractal]

2007 was 18 years ago

[sharp shuttle]

yep the beginning of the end of the world

[proper fractal]

wait didn't they broadcast rupert murdocks funeral in 2012 and then say they didn't when he was alive

[sharp shuttle]

mason mandella

[cerulean knoll]

Hey pops 😂. Sup chat 👋

[proper fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltst5EDnde4

[sharp shuttle]

elliot!

[cerulean knoll]

Yeah what's good

[sharp shuttle]

the H1b indian my local market employed couldnt reduce 3.33 from 4 dollars, so that was interesting.

[proper fractal]

wait do what now

[sharp shuttle]

do math.

[proper fractal]

ill ask him

it's gonna be a while tho

[sharp shuttle]

what?

wrong chat?

[proper fractal]

lol

[sharp shuttle]

are you larping as him? Yes hes always doing customer service (a completely different job) on his phone while working the gas station job

[proper fractal]

rofl

it's time for me to go to bed now lol

gn

[sharp shuttle]

gn

[meager kernel]

wow

unfortunate you had to witness that

[sharp shuttle]

im entirely used to it

[meager kernel]

are indians that incompetent?

[cerulean knoll]

Really 🤨

[sharp shuttle]

its been like this for 2 years, but the other 5 they had on rotation did math just fine

this guy was just mentally handicapped

He also said the bag was 10 cents and proceeded to add 20 cents to 3.33, which also is still not 4 dollars

[cerulean knoll]

Damn didn't have to do him like that dad 😂

[sharp shuttle]

I just left, I cant handle dealing with low intelligence, but i wont be shopping there as much

[cerulean bloom]

[sharp shuttle]

i dont mind riding my bike an extra minute to have better indian service

[cerulean knoll]

Fair enough 🫡

Alright y'all it's time for me to lock in and start grinding. See y'all when I complete today's lessons 👋

[lime trout]

brath, no market can hire an h1b

atleast for customer facing jobs

[sharp shuttle]

damn well idk how they are doing it but these guys are fresh off the boat, at every market in oregon

[lime trout]

it feels like u just assume everyone is an h1b lol

[sharp shuttle]

How else should I define it?

[cerulean bloom]

what is an h1b

[lime trout]

could be f-1

could be ir1

[cerulean bloom]

is it a visa?

this one?

[lime trout]

yes

[cerulean bloom]

ah, ok

[sharp shuttle]

well its some form of foreign slavery

i dont care what the technical term is

not a fan

[lime trout]

i mean it kinda just feels like your shitting on everyone of a different race tbh

and assuming theyre all immigrants

[sharp shuttle]

well im pretty straight up that the only discrimination I am guilty of is towards incompetent people, i dont care the race

[lime trout]

you just seem to go after one specific group alot

[sharp shuttle]

perhaps you are hyperaware of that because it just happens to be who I am dealing with

I am not really thinking of it that way

[lime trout]

i'd argue it does matter, since calling everything h1b gives the wrong idea to people who dont understand it. and if you dont know the background th en you cant advocate for changes

[sharp shuttle]

how should i refer to indians working at every gas station market in oregon

[lime trout]

i dont know, but its not h1b workers

[undone fossil]

Just read chat after sending this hmm

Doesn’t look too good

[sharp shuttle]

im open to changing my terms if you have a better example that is relatable to many people

the form number often means nothing

shall i call them slaves?

[lime trout]

i dont know what you should call it, realistically id oubt there is anything to accurate describe everyone

but h1b visas are not for low-wage supermarket work

H4 if anything under that section

[meager kernel]

hmmmm

[supple plume]

I wish visas were issued only based on this matter

[lime trout]

probably ir1 or F-1 if theyre even immigrants at all

[sharp shuttle]

ah maybe i am right still, it turns out you can be on h1b and work a remote US job and they relocate you

maybe there is some parent company double dipping

[lime trout]

There is alot of h1b contractor firms, yes

[sharp shuttle]

these people are ALWAYS on their phones while checking me out doing customer support

[lofty warren]

tactical gear activated

[lime trout]

They essentially all require competence

IR1/CR1 maybe being the main exeception

[sharp shuttle]

what? how? h1b specifically is a lottery system and caste land grab

almost never does competence matter

[lime trout]

Yes but its specifically for jobs in certain industries that are specialized and cant find american workers

[sharp shuttle]

you dont really believe "cant find american workers" is real right?

[lime trout]

yeah the last part is loopholed sometimes, but its at min people with degrees and some experience

[scenic maple]

All i know is china > *

[lime trout]

H1B as a whole sucks for everyone involved

the workers get exploited to hell

since if you get fired you have to leave the country within 60 days

[scenic maple]

so 60 days to get a new job

hmmmm

[lime trout]

and one willing and able to sponsor your h1b

which most wont do

[scenic maple]

ow shit

so then the boss could be like no i dont feel like paying you like everyone else

[supple plume]

H1b only requires to have a uni degree and apply for a job, I dont have a degree but I got hired by companies to replace them or even teach them I work hard af, where is my mf visa, it will be issued to some guy that will end up working in a tech company where they start at 11am end then take a 2h coffee break

[scenic maple]

u get 100$ less

and u cant do anything

[sharp shuttle]

yea.. which is why im critical of it, and assign that classification to gas station workers, something many of us can relate to as negative experiences along with working with H1B's in tech

[scenic maple]

tbh get a uni degree tho

who cares

just go to some shit uni and collect a degree

[lime trout]

i mean you could probably get a visa if you want

[scenic maple]

no need to even do clasees

[lime trout]

im in the process of getting an IR1 visa lol

[sharp shuttle]

indias degree mills are so rampant its unreal

[supple plume]

I would need to get in the system starting by getting my high-school diploma

[sharp shuttle]

i hate all of it

[scenic maple]

fake indian degree schools in canda 😩

[sharp shuttle]

canada is an entirely different issue

[meager kernel]

i want one too

[supple plume]

Also it is just taking a bigger slide in braths roadmap

[scenic maple]

we all start somewhere

[supple plume]

"Bro who cares"

[scenic maple]

its actually a criminal offense

[meager kernel]

its always the indians 😔

my country really got a shitty name out there

[scenic maple]

true that

[sharp shuttle]

if i did a guide to H1b it wouldnt even be funny it would just be a horrendous reality

[meager kernel]

ah shucks

[lime trout]

Given the lottery system there isnt any sure-fire way to get one tbh

[scenic maple]

sure but its same for every poor country with lots of people

[supple plume]

I already know, make another guide

[sharp shuttle]

let me assure you I am not racist against yall, i have worked with amazing indians

its just sad there is alot of shady shit

[quasi ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WsPZC1-TLo
quite literally :/

[supple plume]

That can't be true

[scenic maple]

hate to break it to you

[quasi ridge]

shrug I have no idea...I'm not one to judge about it

[supple plume]

Vro what

[quasi ridge]

but it's hit the social media for months now

and it seemed relevant

[sharp shuttle]

you could assign bewildering culture to any race man

[scenic maple]

its true

but again not all indians are alike

[sharp shuttle]

they are very specifically not alike

hence castes

[scenic maple]

dang yall really not lke india

[quasi ridge]

quiet formerly East Pakistan

[sharp shuttle]

i dont like anybody

[meager kernel]

no its alright
i do get what youre saying
indians want to make every country like india unfortunately

[scenic maple]

lies
i saw you liking me

[sharp shuttle]

anybody who immigrates does this

its not just india

you guys are being exploited

[quasi ridge]

imo it's the sad irony of migration

[supple plume]

I would not

My country sucks

[quasi ridge]

everyone wants the familiarity but everyone hates the negative consequences that come with it

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[meager kernel]

i honestly too want to move away from india
but by the time i get the chance, most countries would have banned indian people lmao

[sharp shuttle]

its too late now, there will be no countries that are desirable to immigrate to soon

i guess there is solace in that

[scenic maple]

move to china

[quasi ridge]

which doesn't these days?

[supple plume]

I see that comung

[supple plume]

Right

[scenic maple]

i think norway is pretty good

they have oil money and actually use to benefit people

[quasi ridge]

too cold

[supple plume]

I have 2 friends there, they don't agree

[sharp shuttle]

unique culture in the world is dying at unprecedented rates

[scenic maple]

hmmm

[cerulean bloom]

maybe sweden?

[meager kernel]

its cold

[sharp shuttle]

lmfao

[meager kernel]

norway is a country where they are very isolated in their groups
they are not that welcoming to foreigners

[scenic maple]

no yall dont know

its a specific word

it means underpaid overowked worker

[supple plume]

They say the salaries are good but people are too distant (you get kicked out by laughing in a restaurant for example) and is cold af

[scenic maple]

again its not that gushu lmao

[quasi ridge]

😛 don't cover up, Golam

We know what you mean

[scenic maple]

ii am being genuine here

@supple plume tell him

[supple plume]

Whats going onlet me eead

Read

[sharp shuttle]

and they will mald after getting kicked out make a giant scene and do everything they can to ruin the resturant owners life

it never ends

i cannot tolerate stupid people

[warm rune]

Hello guys. Does anyone know which one is better for maldev? sektor7 or maldevacademy?

[scenic maple]

@supple plume bro where u at lmao

[lime trout]

personally, its not all bad though.

unique cultures can be a benefit, but realistically thats more of a blend then just copy paste over

[supple plume]

At work

[quasi ridge]

[lime trout]

everyone bring their past with them, thats not something you can change

[scenic maple]

u know what fk it

i am not sying it no more

[supple plume]

Cold wordls

?

[scenic maple]

yse

[sharp shuttle]

i dont think "the heckin food is good" is a healthy reason to allow cultural erosion

[supple plume]

I argee

[lime trout]

Thats not what im saying

[sharp shuttle]

thats just my opinion

i know its not

[lime trout]

you always have to adapt when you move

[sharp shuttle]

sorry, shoulda clarified

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-gif-20395854

[sharp shuttle]

you and I, intelligent people understand this yes

[meager kernel]

@lime trout since youre in canada, have you ever had any bad encounters with indians

[lime trout]

no not really

[quasi ridge]

you have to recall, she has 2 kinds

clarify which

feather or dot 😉

[scenic maple]

wait really?

[meager kernel]

2 kinds as in?

[quasi ridge]

...Native Americans are also called Indians there

[supple plume]

Indios

[meager kernel]

ahhh

[scenic maple]

but how does that translate to emma having kids

[meager kernel]

no i meant indian indian

[supple plume]

Indios de la India

[sharp shuttle]

out of curiosity have you spent alot of time in Brampton? i have more than 5 friends there and toronto and they are having a miserable time

[lime trout]

brampton is like

9 hours away

why tf would i go there

[sharp shuttle]

im just asking

[scenic maple]

do you have any friends who arent living miserably and if so where they live?

[cerulean bloom]

me

I'm not miserable

[quasi ridge]

recuerdes yo de Gabriel Iglesias y "El Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-gro!"

[supple plume]

Jesus christ

[sharp shuttle]

all of them live in china, japan, new zealand, and several Scandinavian countries

[scenic maple]

thats only cause you are a good student a bad student in any east asian country lives miserably

[sharp shuttle]

everybody else is objectively miserable

myself included

[cerulean bloom]

[supple plume]

I like the one by Antonio machine about painting black angels

[scenic maple]

hmmm scandanavian

[cerulean bloom]

speaking of which, I got a 106/110 for my essay

[supple plume]

His lyrics btw

[scenic maple]

norway is part of that tho

[quasi ridge]

no but have you ever seen Gabriel's skit on the difference between Mexicans and Cubans?

[lime trout]

we have a fair amount of students in montreal though

[sharp shuttle]

sing the kanye lyrics next man

[quasi ridge]

I think he was doing a Miami show

[lime trout]

but we have alot of unis

[quasi ridge]

He was talking about Dominicanos

[scenic maple]

so out of every 10 people you meet outside what % are from the indian sub continent

[sharp shuttle]

yeah i talk to gin about montreal

[quasi ridge]

It was a story of him and Martin talking in Spanish in a taxi and this black driver responds in Spanish to them and they were freaked out

[supple plume]

The mod who deleted that should listen to the song I said it is actually very good, not what it seems like

[lime trout]

i honestly couldnt tell you

[supple plume]

Antonio machine: angelitos negros

[scenic maple]

[lime trout]

i have goldfish memory

[undone fossil]

"outside"

0

[sharp shuttle]

ill share mine, in oregon, specifically around intel campuses, in tanasbourne, it is so indian that the culture of honking, running red lights, is palpable only in that specific city

[scenic maple]

barth u?

[meager kernel]

that term even allowed?

[scenic maple]

idk tbh he keeps yapping abt some song

[supple plume]

Vro just listen to the song

[undone fossil]

i dont speak spanish but does it translate to black angel or something

[scenic maple]

so its basically a indian city in us

[scenic maple]

frogs dont go outside?

[undone fossil]

indoors warm

[scenic maple]

aaaand muted (i didnt do it)

[quasi ridge]

@supple plume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFqu9YVuAgI

[sharp shuttle]

yes, it is about 50% or more indian. they have only zoned and built apartments and it is very clearly packed to the brim with foreign visa situations

[cerulean bloom]

how do you know lol

[sharp shuttle]

it is straight up culture shock

[scenic maple]

cause i can see the icon next to name and i didnt do anything

[sharp shuttle]

ill admit that much

[cerulean bloom]

might be auto mute

[scenic maple]

so do us people like them hate them or no opinion

speaking abt majority

[sharp shuttle]

dude im always going to be real, yes indian hate is a real thing

[scenic maple]

i see

[sharp shuttle]

but you must understand

indians are just the flavor of the month so to speak

which is horrifying in its own right

[quasi ridge]

@supple plume

[sharp shuttle]

eventually itll just be normal and there will be a new boogeyman

[scenic maple]

what do they think abt middle eastern ppl maybe persian

[meager kernel]

echo got muted

[sharp shuttle]

they would probably just blanket call then indian

[scenic maple]

ye automod

[sharp shuttle]

this happens with Pakistanis all the time

[scenic maple]

[sharp shuttle]

even iraqis

[scenic maple]

is there any way to not get judged as indian

if you arent one

[sharp shuttle]

Idk man, cant speak for indians

[lime trout]

unmuted you @supple plume

[scenic maple]

[sharp shuttle]

i have my own issues to deal with being white

[scenic maple]

whats wrong with being white

[sharp shuttle]

we all have some form of racism to live with

[scenic maple]

literally everyone in us is white

almost*

[meager kernel]

i also want to know

[supple plume]

Oh thanks emma

[sharp shuttle]

its extremely regional

[scenic maple]

so you are saying there is just no way to escape racism

[sharp shuttle]

yeah of course

[scenic maple]

no matter what race color or whatever

there will always be people

[sharp shuttle]

humans will always hate some feature about each other

[scenic maple]

thats epic sadge

[sharp shuttle]

skin color is just easy

guess what

if we are all white or brown

now its eye color

it never ends

[scenic maple]

😔

[sharp shuttle]

i try to be fair by only caring about iq and empathy

[scenic maple]

maybe when we all will live in a vr world we will get relief

but i guess that wont work either cause some people are born talented and some are born dumb

[supple plume]

I think iq is less important than critical thinking

[scenic maple]

if they both do the same hardwork the talented guy will be smarter

[sharp shuttle]

idk man, im sorry if you feel discriminated against, but i assure you I get it too, we all do even if we don't notice

[scenic maple]

nah idc

[sharp shuttle]

high iq is required for critical thinking

[scenic maple]

whats high in terms of high iq

[sharp shuttle]

110

[scenic maple]

i forgot what my iq was

[supple plume]

Mmmm

[scenic maple]

let me check real quick

problem is almost all online iq tests are fake

[sharp shuttle]

most people dont even feel empathy until 100

[scenic maple]

how do i check iq

[sharp shuttle]

it doesnt matter

if you can code without chatgpt you are basically good

[supple plume]

Im good yay

[sharp shuttle]

there are certain traits as indicators the number assigned by the test is less relevant to me

[scenic maple]

[sharp shuttle]

but by default empathy is a baseline requirement for me

[scenic maple]

see the cross

[supple plume]

=

[sharp shuttle]

what is that

[scenic maple]

its copilot

[sharp shuttle]

ah

[supple plume]

No copilot

[scenic maple]

if u disable completions

[sharp shuttle]

i have never used copilot even once

[scenic maple]

its chat gpt wrapper and has some powers to control vscode

basically

[supple plume]

Sends your code away before you upload it to gh

[sharp shuttle]

im not even talking shit i just dont use microsoft ides

[scenic maple]

what ide do u use

[sharp shuttle]

sublime text

[scenic maple]

thats a peak editor

i am too much of a soydev unfortunately 😔

[supple plume]

Me too, vro lets learn vim

[sharp shuttle]

i made a bunch of modules/extensions for me, im stuck in on that pipeline

[meager kernel]

i use vs codium

[scenic maple]

its just that when you are a overworked underpaid worker you just dont have time to fix/configure vim and stuff

[supple plume]

Yeah we say vscode but we mean codium, right golam?

[scenic maple]

i use insiders edition

cause its green

[sharp shuttle]

if i was a professional "coder" id just use AI

why bother

[scenic maple]

i have plans on going non ai by 2026

[supple plume]

I am forced to use windsurf at work

[scenic maple]

even no chat or planning

[meager kernel]

just start rn

[sharp shuttle]

lol i dont even know what that is

[scenic maple]

cant rn

lots of shit in backlog

[scenic maple]

its a billion dollar vscode fork

with ai on it

[supple plume]

Vscode + chatgpt agent mode + autocompletion + TAKES YOUR FYCKING TERMINAL AND RUN COMMANDS IF IT WANTS TO IT OWNS YOUR SOULD

[sharp shuttle]

interesting lol

so its not even a job

[scenic maple]

cursor is even same

[sharp shuttle]

you are babysitting an agent

[supple plume]

Idk I can eat food at the end of the month

[sharp shuttle]

for how much longer?

[scenic maple]

when you are a underpaid overowked worker you dont ask questions

[undone fossil]

erm guys chatgpt didnt help me when i tried running it on a codebase with 1.5m lines of C++ in it

how fix

please i need to werk

[sharp shuttle]

do the needful

[scenic maple]

use claude vro

[undone fossil]

oh ok thank !

[scenic maple]

welcm

[supple plume]

So in your roadmap I'm on career switch, I'll get high soon disasembling my computer and melting pieces before going homeless

[undone fossil]

claude said message too big

[sharp shuttle]

i see a goth girl in your future

[undone fossil]

apparently saas_prod.zip is too much

[scenic maple]

use ur mind i guess

[undone fossil]

NO

[supple plume]

But she will take my money

[sharp shuttle]

ur brain hav winkle!!! ewwww

[scenic maple]

instead of buying subs hire some chinese/indian coders

they are usually insanely skilled

and low cost

[sharp shuttle]

LOL

[undone fossil]

i beg to differ

[scenic maple]

abt the skill or money

[undone fossil]

skill

[sharp shuttle]

also not my experience, and chinese people are very rarely hired on H1b because "national security"

[undone fossil]

if its a very specific thing then sure sometimes theyll do an okay job but uh

[scenic maple]

ngl i too have always suspected it cause that many people being that much skilled would collapse the economy

[sharp shuttle]

trust its not discrimination

[undone fossil]

i know its not because in every sport where smarts are key, the US team is just koreans

[scenic maple]

where do you put the bar of well skilled

[sharp shuttle]

i have had 3 jobs now where i fix the fuckups of my indian coworkers

[scenic maple]

@cerulean bloom

[undone fossil]

secure, maintainable, scalable design

[sharp shuttle]

call me biased

[scenic maple]

bro just removed all js devs

[undone fossil]

well yeah

[scenic maple]

i see

[cerulean bloom]

[sharp shuttle]

its extremely frustrating

[scenic maple]

there are 2 types of people

• who use javascript
• who write scalable apps

[undone fossil]

it can scale in that sense if its client side

but that's only because it essentially load-balances itself lol

[sharp shuttle]

i would fuck with a typescript user

[undone fossil]

backend js devs tho 😭

[scenic maple]

sure but client side is not really actual programming

[undone fossil]

it is just not the same considerations really

[supple plume]

I like TS...

[undone fossil]

entirely different world

[scenic maple]

get a room

[sharp shuttle]

Im TS baby, LadyBrath will take of you

[scenic maple]

idk man why they cant get rid of the browser for js
why do nodejs have to run in v8 why cant they write a compiler in C

[undone fossil]

either way i'd need some cheap work from people that can write cross-platform C++ for windows/linux/mac

so i doubt

[scenic maple]

other than c++ what else do you use

[undone fossil]

C++ wrappers

[sharp shuttle]

jord uses haskell

trust

best lang 2026

[scenic maple]

haskell takes peak skill

[sharp shuttle]

it takes peak cope thats for sure

ITS ORGANIC

[undone fossil]

for work at least, its either C/C++ or on rare occasion some small amount of js to quickly write a frontend part for a new feature

[scenic maple]

altho i always wanted to meet a elixr dev

[undone fossil]

elixir is fucking based

[sharp shuttle]

go to a furry server

[undone fossil]

I really want to learn it but am yet to have an actual use for it

[scenic maple]

what do u write usually?

[undone fossil]

C/C++

[scenic maple]

no thats rust

i know lmao

what do u wirte in c++/c

[sharp shuttle]

wrong, rust is the chastity cage server

[undone fossil]

ohhh

hmmmm lemme figure out what projects are public

i can be vague and say, we develop everything in house, ranging from edr to mfa to c2

[scenic maple]

shii you must make lots of money then

[undone fossil]

[sharp shuttle]

none of us make any money man

[scenic maple]

idk man i write js i dont make much

i thought other devs did

[undone fossil]

if i was in the US i'd be making bank

not in europe tho

[supple plume]

I used to make good money

[sharp shuttle]

those days are gonezoes

jord go work with goomba and garret

[scenic maple]

whats your position in terms of company

swe?

[undone fossil]

they got cool work i wont lie

will dm

[scenic maple]

🫡

[supple plume]

Well...

[undone fossil]

just unsure how badly i want a role purely on research

[supple plume]

Finished my work 3h earlier

[undone fossil]

very cool but its quite adjacent to consulting at times

[sharp shuttle]

you trying to avoid consulting?

[supple plume]

Time to... leave early I guess

[undone fossil]

yeah realised i hate it with a passion

[sharp shuttle]

i dont even blame you

[undone fossil]

doing dev full time now and its so so so much better

[sharp shuttle]

i was very happy to hear

[undone fossil]

working to solve problems and make things better rather than putting plasters on a grumpy executives forehead whilst he grumbles at you

[lofty warren]

last christmas

[sharp shuttle]

tis the season (for rubberstamping)

[vivid flower]

Why have you been up at 3am lately? Is your sleep schedule messed up

[undone fossil]

shizoposting hours

[austere sinew]

Hoi @cerulean bloom

[cerulean bloom]

how are ya today

[austere sinew]

Actually well rested hru

[cerulean bloom]

tired

[vivid flower]

Mine has been messed up lately because my gf works nights and i've been trying to spend more time with her

[undone fossil]

happy day after birthday

how was the big day

35 now?

[frigid mountain]

what up fellas?

AND LADIEEEEES!

[sturdy thistle]

Ohhhhhhhh

[undone fossil]

based

[upbeat tangle]

Danny "ThreeBags"

[undone fossil]

hello sirs

[frigid mountain]

😄

[sturdy thistle]

@austere sinew hello

[undone fossil]

mickhat did you wish her a happy birthday yet

[sturdy thistle]

Happy birthday @austere sinew

[undone fossil]

good

[sturdy thistle]

Happy belated birthday

[frigid mountain]

thank you!

😄

mine was earlier this month too

[undone fossil]

yooo

[sturdy thistle]

Youre wxlome

[undone fossil]

happy bday young man

[frigid mountain]

🙏

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-old-school-lips-frank-the-tank-it-feels-good-gif-12738085

Me and this white Monster

[undone fossil]

helllll yea

[frigid mountain]

killed it. i wish they lasted longer

[rustic pulsar]

Yo

[frigid mountain]

ayo

what's up @rustic pulsar ?

[dusky jacinth]

😪

[frigid mountain]

why so glum, chum?

[austere sinew]

ARE YOU KIDDING MR

[austere sinew]

Halloooo

[austere sinew]

Yellow

[austere sinew]

IT WAS NEVER MY BIRTHDAY

[austere sinew]

Ooh happy belated birthday

[upbeat tangle]

Happy birthday!!

[subtle plover]

Wolo being bullied again as usual

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1278247655574867989.webp?size=32&animated=true

[supple plume]

We birthday bulling?

@austere sinew happy betrayalbirthday

[scenic maple]

cringe

[supple plume]

I know

[frigid mountain]

sup golam

[scenic maple]

massive json data

u?

[frigid mountain]

if never birthday how here?

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-facts-blackbeard-pirate-gif-4430715298230144753

[frigid mountain]

working on getting nethunter on this OnePlus 6 so I can hack my family at christmas tomorrow

[scenic maple]

remember bro consent is key

[frigid mountain]

🙁 sad face for feeling you have to tell me this

[scenic maple]

i trust you

[frigid mountain]

LIKE YOU DONT KNOW ME

[supple plume]

Vro is more sour with us nowadays

[scenic maple]

i am sowwy

[frigid mountain]

i'm sad because the OS enchilada I flashed is old and now i have to install lineageOS and that's a few extra steps and it's too early for that

[scenic maple]

💐

this should make u happy

[frigid mountain]

I"VE ONLY HAD ONE MONSTER

[scenic maple]

one monster is too less

[frigid mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/really-for-me-really-for-me-unsure-skeptical-gif-14186697

[scenic maple]

this is for you mr thedanpatrick

[frigid mountain]

i'mma go shave my head and shower I think

👨‍🦲

[fervent cape]

yooo!!

[frigid mountain]

🚿

[supple plume]

Nice

Shaving the head is the best

[scenic maple]

true

[frigid mountain]

i have been doing it for a while used to let it grow and get done at shop once a month just cut to lowest electric clipper setting. Then I got my own stuff and one of those 5 head electric skull shaver designs. I don't go full razor. But I just met a pro traditional barber while at my pro traditional tattooer and I'm going to treat myself to a real straight razor head shave and beard trim next month

[supple plume]

I just razor my head weekly for the sake of confort no barber required

[modern spade]

So Merry Christmas peeps. Hope You get the gifts you didn't want, you get the gifts that you wanted and the mythical jolly fat bearded guy (or Yak-ykiyk) makes you happy.

[scenic maple]

idk why but i remembered this

[upbeat tangle]

Why are you reposting my selfie?

[scenic maple]

[supple plume]

Thats how I look like

But add some scars

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/rhydian-gif-2050416165722456257

[sturdy thistle]

i still won't stop pinging you @austere sinew

[undone fossil]

toilet chips

[supple plume]

@austere sinew does it bother you to be pinged to death or you're fine with it?

[subtle plover]

@austere sinew

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/852896269277462588.webp?size=32&animated=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1040918189787328522.webp?size=32&animated=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179903267707306124.webp?size=32&animated=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/875844543176642620.webp?size=32&animated=true

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-meme-jar-gif-4658690738464352739

[austere sinew]

WHY

[austere sinew]

This is a trick question

[cerulean bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mygod-whathaveidone-ohno-cat-explosion-gif-4930325

[olive marten]

[sturdy thistle]

why not 😄

see at as 'i like you' 😛

everytime i ping you, i think of you 😂

[dusky jacinth]

Everytime I ping you someone dies

[fiery copper]

Hmm Im a bit sad that I cannot afford the CJCA atm, Im still thinking if I should buy it or not due to it being a big investment

Anyway I think Ill start doing the labs next year and pass a couple of Microsoft certifications

I wish Hack The Box will think about bringing regional pricing as Microsoft has

So more people can afford getting certifications at affordable prices

[olive marten]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-dog-brian-dog-cooked-wallahi-im-finished-cooked-dog-gif-1849480349705279416

[dusky jacinth]

...

Brother

he IS dead

Also, the HTB certs are a really great price

[cerulean bloom]

I mean, even if they bring regional pricing, it will be the same price

[fiery copper]

Thats what the government wants you to believe

[dusky jacinth]

which one homie

[fiery copper]

Nah not really the pricing would be different based on economical regions

[cerulean bloom]

that would be unfair imo

we have to pay higher prices because we live in richer countries

[supple plume]

Let me know if it does I will stop pinging no problem

[dusky jacinth]

^^

[fiery copper]

Well you earn more money by default

[cerulean bloom]

no

[fiery copper]

So hows that unfair

[dusky jacinth]

what?

bro

[cerulean bloom]

there are poorer people in rich countries too

you think those people should pay more because that's where they live

[dusky jacinth]

Regional pricing would be based upon a countries GDP and matched with countries of a similar GDP

[fiery copper]

Those poorer people earn more than bottom 90-95% in a poor country

[cerulean bloom]

BUT

[dusky jacinth]

If you live in a country with a higher GPD it will simply be more expensive

[cerulean bloom]

the prices there are also higher

yup, the cost of living is higher

if you are gonna decrease the price, decrease it for all of us

that is fair

[fiery copper]

Ye but it is unfair for customers to have the same prices for cheaper regions, if you wanna have more customers

[dusky jacinth]

wdym?

Are you in the states?

[cerulean bloom]

that......... is not a good business plan lol

[fiery copper]

Nah Im in Romania

[cerulean bloom]

you will lose sooo many customers

[dusky jacinth]

then you have to pay the same prices as everyone else in the US, even if you live in a "poorer part" of the US

[cerulean bloom]

cuz prices are unfair for where you live

[dusky jacinth]

I just brought up the US for an analogy

[supple plume]

Steam does that

[fiery copper]

Nah actually that is good business, multiple games have it, Microsoft has it

[cerulean bloom]

with which I disagree with

[lime trout]

its been disussed, but not something likely to happen

[cerulean bloom]

it would be unfair to those with higher prices

[austere sinew]

Awwww

[fiery copper]

Well it already unfair for me because people from richer countries can afford more

[dusky jacinth]

I know zero point does it too

[cerulean bloom]

I live in SK, which is a pretty good economy

[keen portal]

Microsoft, Google, etc are trying to drive business in those regions

[cerulean bloom]

but I'm not that rich

[dusky jacinth]

yeah man, that's how the world works

it's not fair

[cerulean bloom]

I have to pay for my own certs, not my parents

[dusky jacinth]

I'm not rich either though

[cerulean bloom]

they might contribute, but it would be hard for them to pay

[keen portal]

resources still cost what the resources are going to cost

[supple plume]

I like you having your own opinions

[cerulean bloom]

thank you 🙂

[austere sinew]

Ooh that is a good point tbh but then they’d have to bring in an id system of sorts because people will try to bypass that

[cerulean bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-no-idea-gif-27149353

not you too wolo

[dusky jacinth]

I mean even just outside of that they can't yet prove that it will bring in more business

[cerulean bloom]

join vc, I will debate you

[supple plume]

I think these are private business and they are free to tweak with prices, if you don't like it buy somewhere else

[lime trout]

it costs the same for us to provide the service regardless of the users location

[dusky jacinth]

and more business also means more resources to allocate for all users

[lime trout]

if anything it'd end up being EU/NA users subsidizing the rest of the world

[supple plume]

I feel the pain of this btw

[lime trout]

which isnt fair either

[supple plume]

Not being wealthy in europe

[keen portal]

also sounds like HTB has plenty of business with current pricing

[dusky jacinth]

So it could actually cost more money for HTB to do it instead of it helping drive business

[cerulean bloom]

yup

[dusky jacinth]

Microsoft, Steam, Google are billion dollar businesses

They don't need to worry about that as much

[cerulean bloom]

true, they are much different from HTB

[dusky jacinth]

they get their revenue from many other sources

[cerulean bloom]

HTB is a big company, but not to the extent of those companies

[fiery copper]

I suppose I guess

[keen portal]

but you look at something like Google cloud or Microsoft, they are trying to gain / increase business in poorer countries, so it benefits them to adjust pricing

[dusky jacinth]

There's always two sides

sorry if we seem hella aggressive

[cerulean bloom]

lol

[dusky jacinth]

we're just highly opinionated

[cerulean bloom]

I just really disagree with it, cuz

I mean, I live in SK, kinda rich country

[dusky jacinth]

Kinda rich??

[cerulean bloom]

I'm not rich, my parents won't be able to pay all the certs I want

[austere sinew]

It’s not necessarily subsidising if you’re still making a profit just less of one, and it could bring in more overall revenue as people would be more inclined to buy it as they could afford it

[dusky jacinth]

SK is definetly rich

as a country that is

[cerulean bloom]

lol

exactly

but, I have to pay for my own certs

my parents will contribute, but they can't pay the whole price

[dusky jacinth]

But also

[cerulean bloom]

that's why it is unfair to me, who is living in a rich country but is definitely not even in middle class

[dusky jacinth]

it feels good to know you worked to be able to pay for the certification

[austere sinew]

Take it as making 10 pounds profit off of someone vs 2 pounds profit but from 5 people or more

[dusky jacinth]

like that was all you

[cerulean bloom]

I save up lol

[fiery copper]

Well I was thinking that you basically make less profit on the other customers from other regions but by having more customers you still get more profit

[dusky jacinth]

you put the time and effort into saving and studying

[lime trout]

thats not how that works

[dusky jacinth]

It just means more

[cerulean bloom]

family give me money, I get from competition

[lime trout]

more people = more support costs, more reviewing time

[frigid mountain]

what did I miss?

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah this is exactly what I was trying to say earlier

[cerulean bloom]

convo about regional pricing

[frigid mountain]

ah

BOOOORING

[fiery copper]

Hmm thats a point

[dusky jacinth]

also

[austere sinew]

If you’re still making a profit you’re still making a profit, but less of one I’m sure you have support costs taken into account in the pricing excluding the profit

[frigid mountain]

Let's talk about everyone's biggest dreams in life!

[austere sinew]

“Operations pricing”

[dusky jacinth]

have you done any HTB boxes? Could you imagine the influx of people and how that would affect the already iffy connection to the labs?

It'd be an infrastructure nightmare

[lime trout]

i mean i also support the idea to be clear, its just not a very simple thing to do

[dusky jacinth]

It would be amazing