general

[civic lance]

So like when reading a module, there is a hunch of theoretical information that’s like idk, background information

[molten bobcat]

So it's important to understand context behind anything you touch

Because the context makes things make more sense

[civic lance]

Do I make note of it

[molten bobcat]

In cybersecurity you have to build an understanding of a system you don't understand

[civic lance]

Cuz in my head I’m like, am I going to need to know this further down the line

[molten bobcat]

Yes

[civic lance]

“Cuz the information is like how the internet works”

[molten bobcat]

Unfortunately due to the nature of the field you actually never know when something seemingly useless pops up again

But if you at least recognize it you can check your notes

[civic lance]

Like networks are a bunch of computers communicating with each other type of background information

[molten bobcat]

Yes

That's valid information to know

Every single company has some manner of implementation to meet their needs

Networked computers running software talking to each other

Domain services

[undone fossil]

Try making use of it, if you use it twice probably note it down

Shrimple as

[molten bobcat]

Indeed

[visual hollow]

I don’t like shrimps

[undone fossil]

No point noting things you don’t know if you’ll need

[molten bobcat]

I had to spend time reading Microsoft documentation about Shared Mailboxes in Exchange for work.

[undone fossil]

Neither do I but Shrimple is fun to say

[molten bobcat]

Do you know how much I give a damn about exchange or shared mailboxes

[undone fossil]

A lot !

[molten bobcat]

Not much I'll tell you that

[civic lance]

But that’s the point, if your new how will you know if u need it or not?

[molten bobcat]

Das the rub

Just grab it imo

On the flip side

[visual hollow]

Shrimple Shrimple

[molten bobcat]

You'll never not have access to Google?

So like

Unless you're literally in a job interview ig

[civic lance]

Yeah fairs, but it’s like I wanna take perfect notes😭

[molten bobcat]

No notes are perfect homie

They're yours

It just has to make sense to you

[devout sail]

Ah yes the blank book

[molten bobcat]

I swear in my notes for personal flavor

[visual hollow]

It’s like filling a Pokédex

[cerulean bloom]

there is no such thing as "perfect notes"

[molten bobcat]

There's a saying

"perfect is the enemy of the good"

Don't chase perfection on something that works fine

[civic lance]

Mmmmmmm

[molten bobcat]

You'd be shocked how often real world clients get tripped up on fundamentals and that's the cause of their issues

There's clients that call in and complain that their firewall is dropping malicious traffic

... Yeah..?

[lofty warren]

guys, are you hungry?

[molten bobcat]

That's what it's supposed to do

[devout sail]

Was

[eternal mango]

lol.. for no reason there's a Blue Brothers quote slap bang in the middle of this binary

Just wut

[molten bobcat]

Cup noodles and gas station sushi lfg

[meager kernel]

I should sleep

[molten bobcat]

What's the quote?

[meager kernel]

It's 10

[lofty warren]

ill buy another one man

[molten bobcat]

It's nighttime and we're wearing sunglasses?

[eternal mango]

what do ya want for nothing?

[molten bobcat]

[lime trout]

are you not?

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-of-gas-blue-brothers-hit-it-gif-18357795782957779468

[lime trout]

i always wear my sunglasses

because theyre transition lenses

[molten bobcat]

Hit it

[lofty warren]

same w me

[terse dirge]

Peak cuisine

[undone fossil]

You don’t. I’d recommend just trying things out and experimenting to see what you enjoy. Then takes notes on what you tried, why it works / doesn’t work

[eternal mango]

Smashed it wide open in the end btw Froj 🤣

So much fun

[undone fossil]

Ayo!

[eternal mango]

but now I have to write the report lol

[undone fossil]

Really this is just a problem of “how do you prefer to learn” so I can only answer anecdotally, same goes for anyone else

[molten bobcat]

I got my mom new horror books for Christmas

👻

[undone fossil]

Get her a frog

[lofty warren]

i just spend over 3$ for both of noodles cup & gimbap

[molten bobcat]

There was a frog plushie on the shelf but a kid grabbed it

[undone fossil]

You’re strong enough to fight the kid for it

Do better

[molten bobcat]

Probably but like

Lazy

[undone fossil]

Okay fair argument I’ll allow it

[dusky jacinth]

Froj allows it

jorF

[scenic maple]

@mystic harbor

https://tenor.com/EFhR.gif

[mystic harbor]

why randomly

[scenic maple]

cause why not

[mystic harbor]

I just opened this chat and you just mentioned me

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/foodie-food-porn-skewered-kebab-gif-13490689

[mystic harbor]

how you knew

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[terse dirge]

@scenic maple

[scenic maple]

[keen portal]

at first I thought that was pizza then it looked more like taco bell and then it is neither

[thick forge]

rich life

[thick forge]

[thick forge]

i am eating but now i wanna eat that

[maiden anvil]

oh yeah lets see how you like this

[thick forge]

eteable

[maiden anvil]

@zealous charm look how much curry I made last night

[zealous charm]

I also made curry last night 💯

[keen portal]

I'd post a video of Chef Cedrik Lorenzen but that may get me banned

[keen portal]

curry what?

[zealous charm]

Japanese curry

Sup Zojja, how's life?

[keen portal]

hey 🙂 life is good, vacation for 2 weeks, not fired yet, ya know

how about you?

I also like Japanese curry, been a while since I've made it

[maiden anvil]

it's never too late!

and hi from me as well Zojja, long time no see!

[keen portal]

I was off discord for a while, long while

[fair drift]

What brings you back?

[thick forge]

me

but i am not interested

[keen portal]

I was studying for some AWS certs

[keen portal]

my dog is hungry though, need some fresh meat

[fair drift]

Nice, I am eyeing the Cloud Security Specialist one to be honest. Which one were you studying for?

[keen portal]

I did Solution architect associate, on break from cert study for now, not sure if I'll actually do another

maybe Gen Ai Developer later on next year

[fair drift]

Are you trying to switch careers to cloud security or devops or doing it for another reason?

[untold fiber]

certified vibe coder

[keen portal]

the way I figure... get certs later in the year, before end of year performance reviews they are remembered better by management

[keen portal]

i'm in cloud security, its mostly just to update knowledge / also ya know, this job market be wildin, never know when I'll be looking for a job

[untold fiber]

my headcanon is that you get certified to be a devloper using gen ai to vibe code and not the much more realistic certified developer to leverage generative AI nodes in development and software pipelines

[keen portal]

yes!

[fair drift]

Nice, the firm you work at rewards employees for taking certs?

[keen portal]

they reward us by not firing us

[fair drift]

I thought it's the software engineers suffering from layoffs, are you in the US?

[keen portal]

it is a meme cert, its a bit hilarious but also management loves the crap

[keen portal]

yes

cyber budgets are just tight and ya never know what the new year will bring

I'm also super paranoid, maybe I shouldn't be

[fair drift]

I was just writing that you don't need to worry that much lol

[keen portal]

we'll see, we'll see

we have stopped hiring into cyber because our budgets are so tight

[fair drift]

I mean if you know how to do your craft why worry? Worst case scenario look for an opportunity in another country

[keen portal]

one step beyond stop hiring is laying off

that isn't my worst case scenario... my worst case is being paid less 🤣

[fair drift]

Yeah that's screwed up for a multitude of reasons, but whatever

[keen portal]

but anyway, a few certs to show you still retaining / learning is a good thing, its all good

[scenic maple]

check r/overemployed

[keen portal]

nooo

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-cat-gif-555799605331270828

[dusky jacinth]

Imagine being overstaffed

[zealous charm]

any hacking today?

[keen portal]

last thing I need is to put my job in jeopardy by getting another job

[minor heart]

it's not just you

[scenic maple]

only nodejs todat 😭

tried multi threading but it just doesnt work

[minor heart]

a lot of us are a bit paranoid atm

[scenic maple]

@mystic harbor

why should i suffer alone

[keen portal]

so I'm in good company

[minor heart]

I've considered doing a trade skill on the side lately

like plumbing or something

[scenic maple]

hbu

[minor heart]

ok bad example but ya

[keen portal]

well I figure worst case, I'll just go work at Target or something, could be worse 🤣

[zealous charm]

Just doing some work today, but its a slow week. Did some good bb hunting this weekend tho

[scenic maple]

the avg man goes to work

for bread

🥖

[minor heart]

I would have to work like 3 jobs +, so target would be a no go

[molten bobcat]

I apprently have the week off

[keen portal]

well honestly I wouldn't have to replicate my current salary

[scenic maple]

check r/overemployed

[minor heart]

I've done this so much

[molten bobcat]

I knew I had today and tomorrow off

[minor heart]

I have 2 kids

[molten bobcat]

But apparently it has extended for the holidays

Yeehaw

[keen portal]

oh boo

[minor heart]

well not boo yay

[keen portal]

well not like that

[minor heart]

haha

[keen portal]

but ya know having to consider other people

[minor heart]

one is old enough to get a job though

[keen portal]

like if I got laid off but husband still had his job, we'd be ok although I make more than him

[minor heart]

but yea I have way too many responsibilities

ah yea see

my partner works, but he doesn't make what I do, so I basically pay everything

[dusky smelt]

hello

[minor heart]

but mortgage, car, kids.

[zealous charm]

Gotta keep an emergency fund full with 12 months of expenses in this job market

[keen portal]

yeah its stressful, I like my job, no car payment, have a mortgage but got enough savings for a couple years

[minor heart]

I wish I could but my house flooded 2 yrs ago

I'm still paying that off

[keen portal]

but like people be out of work for 1+ years and it is stressful seeing that

[minor heart]

I won't be out of the hole for like a year or two

it was 65K in damages which insurance mostly covered and the community helped a ton

[keen portal]

oof

[proud moth]

it's stressful either way

[minor heart]

I still ended up eating costs in the reno bc they found roots in my pipes and stuff

[zealous charm]

A former company I worked at did layoffs, then rehired those laid off individuals who were still looking for work after 6-12 month back. They rehired them back for $20k less because they knew they were desperate

[proud moth]

you are either free to starve, or free to be a corporate drone

[minor heart]

so there were things I had to fix.

[keen portal]

gah

[minor heart]

the outright horrible stuff from companies rn is at a peak I've never seen before yea

[proud moth]

it's only horrible if you think that companies are supposed to help you

companies need to make money, as such the fastest way is to exploit the need for money of people

[minor heart]

it's just life i guess

but yea, I've considered learning a backup trade

[keen portal]

yeah, its all about shareholder value isn't it?

[minor heart]

something with my hands

[keen portal]

and also all this 'use AI to supplement the people we haven't hired'

even them being like "look AI can do threat modeling" and then you see the shit threat models it puts out

[proud moth]

lmao AI fails at the most basic shit ever

[keen portal]

and where do you think it gets any information it does?

[molten bobcat]

Relevant meme

[minor heart]

if worse came to worse, i guess I could like sell the house for a profit and outright just own a trailer or something

[lofty warren]

gud nai fellas

[dusky jacinth]

True true

Traveling pen tester

[minor heart]

but the fact that everyone is like in this same mindset

is scary

[keen portal]

yeah luckily our house has gained something like 20% in value since we bought it 3 years ago...

[proud moth]

what mindset?

[keen portal]

but I like my house

[young glen]

Nice

[minor heart]

like the inevitable feeling of doom.

[proud moth]

i mean it's just obvious, altough it doesn't have to be a bad feeling

humanity is not in control of its own nature, we will not do anything remarkable and just bomb ourselves to death in a couple centuries if we're lucky

but ya know, that is ok, it's what we were meant to be all along anyway

small, scared, insignificant and violent little shits

[minor heart]

true

[keen portal]

anyway, I am an optimist who tries to prepare for the worst, I am sure our industry will turn for the better, of course I think it will have to involve some major issues for that to happen, all the budget cuts in cyber has gotta have a breaking point, mix that along with developers using LLMs...

[cerulean bloom]

yeah

[keen portal]

not that I wish for bad things to happen in order for us to have a turn around but seems inevitable

[cerulean bloom]

some point, AI bubble will pop

[keen portal]

it just may take a few years

[proud moth]

i wish the industry dies

[cerulean bloom]

I have 7-8 years to spare, but it could take longer for the bubble to pop

[proud moth]

"corporate hackers" and all that when there a 17 yo kids on HTB that can destroy all of those "certified" bullshit ass testers or whatever

one thing that corporate people are good at, is pretending they know what they're doing

source; i work in a company

(nah joking i'm not too bad, altough i am a moron)

[young glen]

Good to know

[cerulean bloom]

wait, so u were joking, right?

phew

[proud moth]

lmaooo of course

i mean, there's probably some truth to that

[cerulean bloom]

probably

[proud moth]

there are some dumb ass mfs in companies

[keen portal]

well I think there is a lot more to it than hacking, as a corporate non-hacker. A lot of what needs to be done is getting people to talk, coordinating, testing out new capabilities, figuring out best way to deploy those new capabilities, making concessions to program/project needs

like a 17 yr old isn't going to replace me but doesn't mean a misguided leadership won't look at a 25 yr old and think "maybe...."

[proud moth]

a 17 yo Guru on HTB is totally, rightfully, and absolutely going to replace me

what matters to my job is if you can hack into shit

[keen portal]

well sounds like you should work on that

[cerulean bloom]

hmm noted

[mild garnet]

has someone already done the NoMap3D challenge? Need some hints

[cerulean bloom]

in 3 years, I shall replace u

possibly less

[proud moth]

3 years Guru is insane, if you manage it's unbelievable

rooting for you to replace me

[cerulean bloom]

I have loads of time lol

[cerulean bloom]

[proud moth]

i've been 3 years into hacking now, and trying to reach Elite hacker seems basically impossible

i can't even imagine Guru

[minor heart]

I always feel like the dumbass mf

[cerulean bloom]

I’m like 77% of the way to pro hacker

just need to root more boxes

[minor heart]

I've just been on academy

[proud moth]

niceee

[minor heart]

I should just binge though

[proud moth]

the step to Elite is just something else

it's the first "oh shit" moment on HTB

[cerulean bloom]

lol

[supple plume]

Hi

[cerulean bloom]

the next level is harder, ay?

[proud moth]

like I said i've been stuck here for months now

[minor heart]

as it should be

[supple plume]

I found otros botones did you see them?

[cerulean bloom]

hmmm

[supple plume]

OTROS BOTONES DE ACCIÓN

[cerulean bloom]

just finish all boxes, ez

[minor heart]

I should probablt do more boxes

[proud moth]

ez gg

[cerulean bloom]

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/all-the-things-hyperbole-and-a-half-do-all-the-things-excited-gif-16018689

[keen portal]

maybe pay one of those 17 yr olds to give you the flags

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/literally-all-of-it-saturday-night-live-all-of-it-its-all-of-it-everything-gif-23823856

[minor heart]

irl stuff + cape + kids has eaten all my time

[proud moth]

lmaoo

[grizzled urchin]

been awhile since ive been on, when did HTB change so many of the boxes to subscription based only?

[quasi ridge]

what, wife didn't?

how'd you pull that off

[untold fiber]

what

[minor heart]

I don't have a wife

[supple plume]

It's called retired boxes

[proud moth]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-10968259

[grizzled urchin]

went to go look at them at SO many are listed as VIP or VIP+

?

[minor heart]

and no he didn't

[limber arch]

Active boxes are free

[keen portal]

I also don't have a wife

[untold fiber]

This has always been the case. There are actually more free retireds now than usual

[limber arch]

Non active aren’t

[minor heart]

maybe that's the issue

🤣

[quasi ridge]

I mean, isn't that the natural process when it's hard as fuck to get a box in?

[grizzled urchin]

must be a UI change then, i never noticed it before and it always seemed to me those VIP ones were the minority

[untold fiber]

There are always 20 active machines, which are free. Retired content is VIP+ only, but we have a small pool of recent retired machines that are free as well

[quasi ridge]

the rules make sure it's worthy...so...it's working imo

[keen portal]

could be...

[proud moth]

fun fact about 0xRy4n he has a perk in his skill tree allowing him to steal every gf within a radius of 10km

[minor heart]

women also need to find house wives to do all the things for us

haha

[keen portal]

yes a house wife would be amazing

[quasi ridge]

ahhh, you are the wife

still, some husbands also eat time unnecessarily...

[untold fiber]

VIP+ has always been in the majority. its usually the 20 actives are free, +2 most recent retired boxes. Right now we have 5 free retired ones though

[minor heart]

I'm not married

same thing either way

[untold fiber]

you people overestimate my charisma

[keen portal]

like sometimes you look at sister wives and think "that is kind of amazing if only that dorko wasn't there"

[proud moth]

i don't believe it

[minor heart]

I totally would just for some quiet time

[proud moth]

a sister wife??? are you in alabama by any chance

[keen portal]

also just because someone says they have a partner and their partner is male doesn't mean they are the wife... just saying

[quasi ridge]

There is a running thing between @green kite and I about the things our wives throw on top of everything else.

[lime trout]

Good thing he’s British now

Very far away

[proud moth]

ayo i didn't know R4an was a master of fencing

good stuff

[undone fossil]

i live in his kitchen cupboard now 😍

[keen portal]

Sister wives is a reality tv show about multiple women married to a dorko, I've only seen a few episodes, they are in Utah I think

[proud moth]

i died

this killed me

[untold fiber]

ngl the one beneath my oven could probably fit you

[minor heart]

I can't even go to the bathroom without my kids deciding to have a conversation right outside and acting like the world is ending

[proud moth]

this message absolutely killed me

[undone fossil]

bet next time i visit we try

[proud moth]

i am ON THE floor

[minor heart]

could be absolutely quiet too - the MOMENT I try

[keen portal]

sounds like my dog

[quasi ridge]

it is...heat death

[keen portal]

dog is like "where did you goooooo?!"

[minor heart]

my dog too omg

[sturdy thistle]

who let the dogs out

[minor heart]

he lays in front and crosses his legs

[quasi ridge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

[proud moth]

WOOF

WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

[minor heart]

if I open the door he's just staring at me

[keen portal]

when we had cats, they would put their paws under the bathroom door like seriously, gimme a minute

[raven rain]

august 12 2036

[minor heart]

I should make a secret lab

[quasi ridge]

I literally saw a meme an hour ago about similar on X

but it was a guy saying "Get up and go live" or some such

[minor heart]

there's a huge crawl space under our stairs

just go and hide

[quasi ridge]

WAs one of those public bathrooms where people can slide under if they wanted to belly crawl

[minor heart]

my worse fear is someone like peaking through those cracks

[quasi ridge]

and if you put your finger to poke out their eye, it's too small

[keen portal]

I've had a kid crawl under before... wasn't a kid I knew

like 1) eww public restroom floors

[rapid badger]

Stop smoking crack in public stalls

[keen portal]

2. like umm... have you never been in a public restroom?

[proud moth]

i've been in a US school i almost died

[quasi ridge]

you're telling me....I've seen so many in so many places and I've yet to come across a decently clean and stocked bathroom in any place

[lime trout]

But they’re just a kid /s

[vivid flower]

🦶 👁️ 👄 👁️ 🦶

[minor heart]

yes

evil lurks within those walls

[quasi ridge]

Like...anywhere I've lived has basically been an upper city like LA or NY or Miami and they all have this

Applebees might be clean but no tp....or the reverse

Chances are good though that someone did like that meme of the upside down shitting

which I cannot post because I did once and got muted 😉

[minor heart]

Applebee's should actually tell you all you need to know about that bathroom via the quality of their food

bahahaha

[quasi ridge]

tbf it's upper scale than McD

it's in that same level as like..Chilis...Fuddruckers...TGIF

[rapid badger]

Half the country is addicted to meth/fent and pills. What do you expect

[quasi ridge]

though most of those are dead now :/

[keen portal]

friends don't let friends eat at Applebee's

[minor heart]

I will drive my ass home so fast

[vivid flower]

Live somewhere that isnt a huge city and you'll find plenty of clean places

[quasi ridge]

I'm sure China figured it out during the Century of Humiliation

[quasi ridge]

that's a recipe for bubba coming to collect

[keen portal]

ya know who has clean bathrooms? Wawa

somehow, some way

[vivid flower]

What do you even mean

[hearty birch]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-frieren-fern-frieren-dance-frieren-dancing-gif-10361930884375499778

[vivid flower]

Plenty of places have higher social trust than big cities

I would never live in LA or NY because im not subjecting myself to that

[keen portal]

I love both NY and LA but thats a lot but both places have smaller communities

like certain parts of LA I love

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nwa-straightouttacompton-walk-strut-squad-gif-4502898

[keen portal]

the traffic, the density, I don't

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/thug-life-i-didnt-choose-it-chose-me-gangsta-tough-guy-gif-24580134

[vivid flower]

When you are wealthy big cities are like a buffet of delights and you can insulate yourself from people on the street

[sinful moat]

Hi there, I'm new, how everyone's doing ? Is it possible to earn cubes without paying in HTB ? (enough to have interesting courses I mean, or/and certs by the end)

[placid plume]

Hey guys is there anyone who know where can i get free content of darkrelay or cel

[quasi ridge]

it's something I've always heard growing up...that truckers of certain....stripes....go there to do things...

a sort of way to...take care of loneliness

crank a few while on literal crank

[vivid flower]

Grow up dude

[keen portal]

well true... the police will also do that for you

[dusky jacinth]

I actively in real time watched my coworker get the credit for fixing this huge problem based on all the work I did and information I was able to provide based on my knowledge of the system…

Yikes.

[quasi ridge]

O.o insulate? No such thing in NY.....the noise, smell, bugs, all of it come in with you

sometimes the folks you're avoiding too

[vivid flower]

The sad man sees a sad world, the angry man sees an angry world. If you think everyone sucks and just wants to take advantage of others you'll never see the good parts

[quasi ridge]

There are plenty of homeless on Wall St, for example...All up and down Manhattan outside buildings worth millions

[heady sage]

I’m clinically depressed and even sometimes I can see that not everyone sucks

[quasi ridge]

But hey, let's look at LA..where do they go? Malibu...til they're shipped to SM or Venice

[vivid flower]

I was very insulated in vietnam basically being in a luxury condo with other communist party members, using grab for everything and only hanging out with other wealthy expats

[quasi ridge]

shrug I'm not saying there are no nice things...I'm saying that big city life with all the money and opportunity is filled with more decay than growth

[vivid flower]

You would have to pay a lot more for that in the west but you could if you were wealthy enough

Then you really just have your spread of all the nice places to eat, things to do and you can go home and do what you want

[rapid badger]

Just buy a 4mil condo in Manhattan ez

[vivid flower]

You just have to have enough money that the cost of living like that doesnt matter

[proud moth]

elite hacker for a reason

[keen portal]

thats a shack

[quasi ridge]

When I lived in LA, the valley was that middle ground between grungy and exciting city life....

then half hour over the hill back to beyond

[vivid flower]

New york is so dead its impossible to runa business there

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-mario-i-guess-im-just-gonna-have-to-make-em-pay-oh-and-im-make-em-pay-ill-make-them-pay-gif-27461279

[proud moth]

US police before arresting 239487 black guys for no reason

[quasi ridge]

there are certain businesses that thrive...just requires eating dirt and working 18h days like the cart guys who do okay and pass wealth on, OR, being part of the mafia 😉

but it's about to get worse when everyone who doesn't want to be taxed further flees

[vivid flower]

Im not doing that

[gentle fable]

Guys any cheap plus reputed certification I can do (I am interested in Malware analysis if that matters)

[dusky jacinth]

I could be in the mafia

I’m blood related

[vivid flower]

Buy a year of academy silver and do CDSA

[quasi ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-brian-gif-13873621

[dusky jacinth]

Exactly

Wish he didn’t say that about my mother though

[vivid flower]

New yorkers killed the golden goose nobody wants to live there anymore

[quasi ridge]

I wasn't able to find the other one where Chris has the friends from Italian school

[gentle fable]

[minor heart]

this

[quasi ridge]

Oh boy...the world's falling down

sigh

I'm going to probably get a wakeup call tonight

[proud moth]

fun fact; the world is actually falling up

[quasi ridge]

O.o how do you figure without a Y axis?

I've never seen anyone ever address the Y axis..always X or Z

i.e. out from Earth as if each launch place wasn't going a different direction even in each launch (because spinning,duh)

[proud moth]

coz of einstein's elevator

bro thought of elevators and discovered black holes accidentally, what a giga chad

[quasi ridge]

O.o what's that have to do with Y-axis though? Essentially if you built it in say..Florida, you're going out sideways from Earth

Which is arguably X or Z depending on vantage point

It's Y for us on the ground but that shit doesn't really count because you and I would've fallen already from our locations

[proud moth]

lmfaoo

[quasi ridge]

Spaghetti Land and Sand Land are both in the declining side..We'd slide 😉

only a handful of Nordics and Russians would stay put and the rest of us would suffer 😉

All the German HTB staff? They'd be sliding down going "NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIN" and then roll off the Alps

British staff? Even worse...They have to get wet twice before

[proud moth]

huge tsunami

gravity is a weird ass thing

[quasi ridge]

100%

and it never forgives or forgets

[scenic maple]

✋😶🤚

[heady sage]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[proud moth]

Does that mean i can do PHP injection using a bird??

[scenic maple]

depends on if the bird is running php

[pulsar dune]

wow, nice option for spy activities.

[sweet lintel]

Apparently this is an application bug.

[tidal harness]

Hi

[pulsar dune]

Hello

[untold fiber]

does gen chat want to hear some never before heard super top secret highly confidential HTB news

just keep it on the down low 👀

[eternal mango]

You're pregnant?!

[untold fiber]

season prizes...|| soon(tm)||

[eternal mango]

Oh... that's why it's taking so long to finish copying.. I didn't exclude /proc haaahah

eejit

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[lime trout]

your pregananantannt?

according to yahoo answers

[lime trout]

that we're ||planning world domination?||

[eternal mango]

I am not

🤣

perGANTE

[scenic maple]

everyone knows this 😩 😩

[heavy oak]

Beer belly = baby

[lime trout]

HTB is ur baby

[sharp shuttle]

Guys i have written a book about federal bird technology, when will you believe me

each species is an evolution

[scenic maple]

dm pdf or didnt hapen

[sharp shuttle]

no, go buy it on amazon

Fuck it today i am making another brath guide

I hope you are happy

[scenic maple]

ok name of the book?

[sharp shuttle]

Classified, sorry

[scenic maple]

https://tenor.com/view/made-by-clown-gif-4428586269206149108

[scenic maple]

out of all the things here i saw the hr lady first

joblessness is real

man how can they smile while ruining someones life

[rapid badger]

HR is there to protect the company not you 🙂

[scenic maple]

tbh bad hr tends to ruin the company more than they ruin people

[young glen]

HR knows nothing about the technical side of things

[mild garnet]

Yo everyone is binex still worth it today?

[sharp shuttle]

it always will be relevant

[mild garnet]

Then why this the least common thing, for example in bug bounty its mostly web

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/gustave-morning-gustave-gustave-expedition-33-expedition-33-clair-obscur-gif-3115674783567621707

[mild garnet]

Like there is nothing ti exploit on those binary

[mild garnet]

How do you know lol

[molten bobcat]

What

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/croissant-breakfast-cappuccino-italian-breakfast-gif-11125946

[heavy oak]

Damn, now I'm hungry

[scenic maple]

i think its more like most people know bbh for web

but there are people reporting rce bugs on tesla cars

[heavy oak]

If you attain CPTS and go through the CWES path. Is it worth taking the CWES exam as well?

[green kite]

Yes

[scenic maple]

cwes and cpts have 50% ish common modules

the web part

it depends on what you want to do tho

[heavy oak]

Def looking to go the red team route and potentially do bug bounty as a side hustle

[scenic maple]

tbh might as well do both

[silver forge]

the web was a mistake

[heavy oak]

Appreciate the insight. I'm trying to transition from blue team to red so every edge helps

[scenic maple]

how do you hold so much wisdom and spend most of your day studying monkeys

[fair drift]

There's a Wi-Fi penetration tester job role path, but there's no cert for that one yet right?

[green kite]

Not yet, no

[fair drift]

I can't find it but I was doubting that there's an issue with the website it's asking me to reload for UI update every 3 minutes or so

[silver forge]

man, we could have had LCARS. information based concept that works. instead we have weeaboos moving logos 3 pixels to the right.

[dusky jacinth]

I’m gonna pretend I know what that means

[dusky jacinth]

Twinnem

[scenic maple]

shiii wht this mean

[dusky jacinth]

I’ll throw up

Put that shit away

[heavy oak]

Aye red team gang

Wassup bruh

[dusky jacinth]

🙏🙏

I’d like to specialize in pwning and rev eng I think

But I gotta just figure out how to do the foundations first lol

[silver forge]

the point is - why would a web site allowed to dictate the looks? they should just give the information, and every web site should look the same. actually, initially css was a technology for enabling you to have a personal style sheet to style all the web sites the way you like. after that someone blundered.

[dusky jacinth]

Web is pretty cool, I’d like to take the cwee I think eventually

[heavy oak]

I have one more question for @scenic maple , how would you recommend someone balance labs with CPTS path. I have read the recommendations online but I wanted your perspective

[scenic maple]

tbh all sites to look like a copy of each other i miss the days of creativity

[dusky jacinth]

Read b1nary’s message in the CPTS chat from last night

I though he put it really well

I mean get as much info as you feel you need duh, but just though I’d point you towards that since I found it valuable

[vivid flower]

90s static sites were great and nicer looking than what we have today

[scenic maple]

do cpts then do the starting point machines blind
and then start with easy medium and so on
remember to always to the retired machine with ippsec
https://app.hackthebox.com/starting-point?tab=1
https://ippsec.rocks/?#
https://app.hackthebox.com/machines?tab=retired

first few retired machines are free

[vivid flower]

I wish we could re normalize those designs. Theyre more optimized, i ask what the benefit is

[silver forge]

I miss actual content being the king instead of pointless visual tricks

[scenic maple]

interesting view point

i wonder how all text internet would look like

lynx browser would be the most used

[young glen]

✅

[silver forge]

I didn't say text internet. I said focus on the content. you can still use plain img tags to display images where they are actually relevant.

[vivid flower]

Would be comfy if many sites were text based and we just used seperate protocols for different things rather than http for everything

[young glen]

Would be nice

[scenic maple]

actuually thinking on a long term maybe he is right

maybe it would have been better

[tawdry sorrel]

Hey there, anyone who knows how much time it usauly take to review cjca exam, htb says probably 20 bussiness days (usauly way sooner) what's about the usauly way sooner

[vivid flower]

It kind of reminds me of how bad windows became. It needed to be endlessly backwards compatible with everything. And so because it was made to do everything, it became bloated and obnoxious

[dusky jacinth]

We don’t know

I personally think backwards compatibility is both stupid and necessary

[silver forge]

gopher was so much superior to web it's silly

[dusky jacinth]

I think we focus too much on making new things work with old tech

Which I personally see as why our lack of large scale innovation is so prevalent

But at the same time

Almost no one can afford new tech

The endless cycle we ourselves had perpetuated

And bill gates

[silver forge]

I wish I had 5070ti

[scenic maple]

i think i hae only heard of gopher on a ssrf thing where they try to make a post request with just get params

or something similar

[green kite]

Ooh gopher

[young glen]

😃

[quartz axle]

Hey for cybersecurity is MacBook Air M2 16gb ram good??

[rapid badger]

Sure

[quartz axle]

Is it gonna be better than windows?

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-monkey-orangutan-smiliong-orangutan-ape-gif-21939747

[rapid badger]

Most people here will prob say anything is better than windows 😉

[tawdry sorrel]

Microsoft sucks

[quartz axle]

TwT people hate windows that much??

[carmine pecan]

Winblows

[tawdry sorrel]

Way more than what you think

[sharp shuttle]

yeah

i hate nothing more in this industry than microsoft

[tawdry sorrel]

Hey brath how are you doing

[sharp shuttle]

good man

yourself?

[tawdry sorrel]

Fine thanks

[winged kettle]

hi brath whats popping

[sharp shuttle]

nice weather we are having

[sharp shuttle]

that profile holy shit ong

[tawdry sorrel]

Acually so cold in here

[carmine pecan]

The Yappalachians mountains just reduced itself to aches and now we are back to elevator small talk

[winged kettle]

im elite

[carmine pecan]

true

[winged kettle]

or l33t as we hackers say

[carmine pecan]

gotta believe it first eh

[quartz axle]

Whoa I see

[heavy oak]

You're a little too excited to be here lol

[terse dirge]

@sharp shuttle is this true?

[quartz axle]

Is MacBook Air M2 gonna be good for cybersecurity then?

[tawdry sorrel]

For this winter I think we will see a Mammoth 🦣 cuz of the negative degrees

[terse dirge]

No

Macs are trash buy framework or system76 instead

[tawdry sorrel]

It is not acually important to have wow specs, like anything running linux is great (can get the job done)

[quartz axle]

Is it gonna be under $900 :’) can’t afford more rn

[terse dirge]

Buy a Thinkpad

[tawdry sorrel]

Gold standard

[boreal pike]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-the-sasquatch-northern-lights-aurora-borealis-gif-8353352965878191401

[heavy oak]

I got a P53 and X1 Carbon ... I love them both

[quartz axle]

Is it gonna be better than mac? My friend has a thinkpad and it heats like crazy and crashes in normal tasks TwT

[tawdry sorrel]

Intel inside

[rapid badger]

I am on a 2018 x1 carbon now, love it 🙂

[heavy oak]

That's where specs come into play but Thinkpad is the gold standard.

[heavy oak]

Yeah, it's really good for PIM stuff too. I enabled my fingerprint lock on Kali, it was fun.. for a time

[quartz axle]

I see. Lmc the prices and specs of thinkpads under $900 and as for mac air m2 it’ll have 16gb ram

[terse dirge]

Just get one with at least 32 gigs of ram and a decent CPU

[quartz axle]

I don’t think it’ll be under $900

32gigs of ram

[tawdry sorrel]

Mine is 8 Gb ram /core i5 gen 11 and it's working more than great

[quartz axle]

I can always upgrade later when I’ll need more ram but rn as I’ll be starting I think 16gigs should do the job till I’d need more and then I’d have enough money to buy it as well

[heavy oak]

I got Lenovo 16" Yoga 2-in-1 (1TB Storage/16GB RAM) for $770 but that was a few years ago

[quartz axle]

Whoa that sounds like a steal!!

1 TERABYTE OF STORAGE

Mac is gonna give 256

[terse dirge]

My bad, I forgot about the whole ramflation thing going on get something that has a bit more than 8GB

[heavy oak]

Yeah, I was hype on that one. But then I got my X1 Carbon and never looked back

[dusky jacinth]

I got my ThinkPad E16 Gen 2 1TB 32GB Ram for about 1300 after taxes and accident coverage

[tawdry sorrel]

Hack The Tech

[dusky jacinth]

That’s been a great one

[quartz axle]

But a lot of people are saying mac m2 chip makes a big difference and it’s more smooth than windows and more reliable too and the 16gb ram acts way more than that and can handle VMs way more efficiently than windows. Is it true?

[dusky jacinth]

Windows is just an OS

You’re comparing like the best ARM chip on the market to an OS

The OS is what sucks

You can make almost all heardware work if you’re smart and patient enough imo

You can’t unbloat windows

[quartz axle]

Also on a side note HTB community is so amazing everytime I have any questions people always help here but in other dc servers they don’t even reply to you and act like you don’t exist TwT

[tawdry sorrel]

Trash OS

[heavy oak]

Windows Pro in Developer Mode and a few scripts could suffice

[dusky jacinth]

You’re cutting it close atp

[quartz axle]

Then is it worth getting the better chip?

[terse dirge]

ARM chips are kinda ass for virtualizing and most things are not arm lol

[dusky jacinth]

The M series chips are all great for the actual hardware

[dusky jacinth]

This tho

[dusky jacinth]

Like I did the debloat and dev and most of my work was done in WSL, but it’s still pretty ass

[quartz axle]

Okay what about the initial phase of learning? I’ll be doing courses getting certification and using websites native labs for practice and all and then I’d get an entry level job and which would be better for that mac or windows OS?

[quartz axle]

:’) yeah

[winged kettle]

brath knows im l33t dw

[heavy oak]

I'll say if you have the proper SSD & RAM, WIndows is elite for (WSL + VM + Powershell AD)

[terse dirge]

Neither windows or Mac are good for learning cyber. Use something that can support Linux FULLY (meaning no Nvidia gpu or arm bs)

[quartz axle]

Also let’s say if I were to get that mac 16gigs of ram and to do the initial learning on it and then get an entry level position like SOC analyst or sth will mac work for that role or nah?

[sharp shuttle]

its true

[dusky jacinth]

Oh yeah dude my home desktop is a monster. It’s on W11 rn

But though I hate Windows

[winged kettle]

how are you doing pal

[dusky jacinth]

I absolutely love PowerShell

[quartz axle]

Give me some recommendations if there are any under $900

[quartz axle]

Otherwise will this work?

Initially?

[winged kettle]

for a laptop or pc

[terse dirge]

Just Google vro. Go get a think pad with at least 8GB of ram and you'll be fine

[untold fiber]

You will virtually never have to use Mac OS in pentesting. You will use both windows and linux extensively.

However, it's easier and more convienent to run Windows natively and virtualize linux than it is to the inverse. Nothing you do on linux will ever have even the slightest issue being done through virtualization. But there are many things you may want to do on windows that will be painful and annoying through virtualization

Thus run windows natively and virtualize linux

[winged kettle]

get a tongfang

[quartz axle]

Laptop

[winged kettle]

get a tongfang

[terse dirge]

Windows still runs into issues with VMs like if you have both wsl and virtualbox installed and running

[untold fiber]

I run WSL and vmware all the time with no issue.

[dusky jacinth]

I had problems with it

So I just switched to WSL

[untold fiber]

WSL2 and modern windows 11 does not have issues doing this

[dusky jacinth]

Well before I got my ThinkPad that is

[vivid flower]

If i ignore it enough maybe apple infra will stop existing

[dusky jacinth]

I mean I did run into issues with it tho

[untold fiber]

no offense

but skill issue

unironically

[dusky jacinth]

Okay bucko

Whatever you say ig

[winged kettle]

0xbuck0

[terse dirge]

This is false with virtualbox lol

[untold fiber]

In the sense that its most likely a config issue since its not a limitation of windows

[untold fiber]

I don't use virtualbox, but again, vmware and WSL2 have no problems

[wheat tulip]

Can I ask a question about installing a Linux distro to a USB stick here?

[gray wraith]

8gb is tough whencyou have tons of docs opened, id say 16 is a must, my 8gb laptop sometimes csn run outta memory

[vivid flower]

When is windows 12 coming out? Or are we skipping to lucky windows 13

[dusky jacinth]

Use balena etcher

[carmine pecan]

Windows 12 is coming out tomorrow

[dusky jacinth]

You don’t have to think

[dusky jacinth]

Fun fact I’m also kms that day

[heavy oak]

No no, virtualbox doesn't have issues either. I've been using this setup for a long time

[dusky jacinth]

Jkjk

[winged kettle]

i heard windows 22 is next, they're doubling it and giving it to the next person

[wheat tulip]

Yeah, but I wanted a certain behaivour I am not sure balena etcher has

[untold fiber]

skill issues all around then

[gray wraith]

Windows 11⅜

[untold fiber]

rip

[wheat tulip]

I wanted some partial persistence

[vivid flower]

The reaction to windows 11 is very similar to the reaction that windows 8 got

[dusky jacinth]

What behavior

[terse dirge]

VMware is certainly not based smh

[wheat tulip]

Is it possible to create a live USB stick with a distro of Linux which has some sort of partial persistence? I want to make an initial setup (install some apps), but whatever I do after I want to be erased after I plug out the USB stick. The apps should be there every time I plug in the USB stick (and their configuration as well).

[dusky jacinth]

Like you wanna be able to dual boot or only boot of the tab

[terse dirge]

It takes a whole like 10 minutes to find the download page to fucking download it lol

[untold fiber]

vmware is more based than virtualbox

[carmine pecan]

way more

[untold fiber]

even though broadcom sucks

[heavy oak]

Live bootable USB

[carmine pecan]

Virtualbox screams "I learnt virtualization yesterday"

[vivid flower]

The sequel to windows 10 will be windows 10 2

[carmine pecan]

the sequel to windows is linux

10 2

[wheat tulip]

And what app should I use?

[carmine pecan]

Wait... what if we made a distro whose the name was just 11

[dusky jacinth]

The sequel to ya momma is I fuck suck at this shit

I give up

[carmine pecan]

So it would be called Linux 11

[vivid flower]

Jokes aside a lot of people are switching to bazzite and i couldnt be happier

[eternal mango]

Rufus

[vivid flower]

[dusky jacinth]

Rufus is also good

More config options

[carmine pecan]

I just use Powershell, no need for Rufus or Etcher

[eternal mango]

Well done

[dusky jacinth]

I mean you can do that too

[eternal mango]

😅

[vivid flower]

You mean dd?

[heavy oak]

Google: "How do I create a bootable USB of linux"

[carmine pecan]

This is inside linus

[dusky jacinth]

I just don’t feel like using the terminal for drive config

[eternal mango]

Not everyone is so handy with Powershell or Linux terminal

[wheat tulip]

Well yeah but I only saw persistence as the option, how would I go about configuring some apps but whatever else I do other times does not save?

[dusky jacinth]

It’s not like super hard Ik that

[eternal mango]

But hey, it's a way

[carmine pecan]

But TE1M just said he loves powershell

[dusky jacinth]

I do

I use it all the time at work

[vivid flower]

Yeah thats fair ig

[carmine pecan]

Contextual love

[dusky jacinth]

But I don’t need to configure drives all the time

Or ever really

So it’s easier to just open Rufus and set it up for me

[eternal mango]

Fair enough, I don't see their messages

I was responding to @wheat tulip

[vivid flower]

I just use ventoy i dont even bother with dd much

[carmine pecan]

Rufus is a good name for a dawg

[dusky jacinth]

g0b doesn’t see my message lol 😭

What’d I do this time

[vivid flower]

Any ventoy users in here?

[carmine pecan]

what is ventoy

[dusky jacinth]

I used it once

[quartz axle]

Thinkpad with 16gb ram is going out of price range it’s over $1000 :’) with less ram I’ve heard people say it heats up like insane and my friend has one too it gets so hot she uses it has her heating pad in winters :D after using it for a bit. I’m getting 16gb ram in Mac for less than $900

[wheat tulip]

Which message was intended to me?

[eternal mango]

The one where I replied to you?

[wheat tulip]

Oh I see, I thought there were others that I missed

The chat is chaotic

[eternal mango]

Just the Rufus 🙂

[vivid flower]

Its a multiboot distro framework that lets you put a bunch of ISO's on one drive and boot them

[wheat tulip]

Alright, thanks

[carmine pecan]

thats actually co0L

[quartz axle]

What’s 2810 in your username for?

Are those random numbers?

[carmine pecan]

if you ignore the 2, and also the 1 and the 0, it's just 8

So it's a cool number

[vivid flower]

I usually shill people to download medicat usb because its a ventoy distribution with lots of rescue tools and you can add your os install isos to the bootable oses folder

[eternal mango]

Recuse USB's always run away when you need them though

[dusky jacinth]

I wouldn’t know

[eternal mango]

I swear they've formed a colony in the houses I've lived in

[vivid flower]

Make two ez

[dusky jacinth]

Could be useful maybe though

Apparently OS installs are hard for me

[molten bobcat]

I learned how to wrap presents

[carmine pecan]

Well, it's hard for Linus Torvalds itself so

[dusky jacinth]

Rad

[carmine pecan]

maybe badge of honor? If you want to see it this way?

[dusky jacinth]

Nah

Skill issue ig

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/point-break-gif-17861206014643507023

[dusky jacinth]

Garbage at tech award

That’s what I deserve

[carmine pecan]

🙂

[molten bobcat]

I have also been granted the week off

[dusky jacinth]

Rad

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-fireworks-collision-gif-14731558

[wheat tulip]

Nope, is the birthdate of someone important to me

[molten bobcat]

Das cute

[wheat tulip]

It's 28th of October

[carmine pecan]

C1oud, thy eater of snacks

[molten bobcat]

I have indeed just had a snack

[carmine pecan]

cool

[molten bobcat]

Nature valley breakfast biscuit

Lmaoo

Nice edit

I'm set to do cooking all day

But I'm just waiting on the ingredients to arrive

[carmine pecan]

Damn Northerns

[quartz axle]

28th October?

[carmine pecan]

It's like a super hot summer here

[molten bobcat]

I'm cold 🥶

[sharp shuttle]

mmmm sawdust and sugar yummmmy

[wheat tulip]

Yup, what does the 28 in your username mean?

[carmine pecan]

It's the 10th day of the 28th month

[molten bobcat]

The biscuits are just graham crackers lol

[dusky jacinth]

Brath why don’t I have you added as a friend yet

[carmine pecan]

Don't try it

I sent him an friend request

and got ignored

it's been 10 years now

[dusky jacinth]

Merry Christmas

Check your inbox

[molten bobcat]

We're a few days away

[quartz axle]

That happens to be my birthdate as well that’s why I asked. It’s 28th October as well TwT that’s why I’ve 28 in my username as well

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-claus-swing-snow-winter-gif-19593326

[sharp shuttle]

because im a dark souls boss and you are but a humanity-less challenger. what stands between you and me is a FUM wall (fog wall), do you dare enter?

[wheat tulip]

What do you wish for guys?

[molten bobcat]

Hah, small world

[static bloom]

Hey, what's the channel here to provide some feedback or questions about a module/section?

[carmine pecan]

Well I can't say it in this discord

[molten bobcat]

I wish for the strength to let go of things that bother me

[dusky jacinth]

Brother I have the dark sign tattooed on my body

[carmine pecan]

because of the rules

[wheat tulip]

Heh, that's some real nice coincidence

[sharp shuttle]

a true dark soul

[quartz axle]

It felt so weird to see those numbers written like that and not from me cause I’ve 2810 everywhere too in my emails and all that’s why I asked TwT ahaha

[molten bobcat]

#boxes #challenges

[wheat tulip]

Is it that small?

[static bloom]

academy as well?

[sharp shuttle]

well you may have a dark soul, but you are still maidenless

[molten bobcat]

No you edited your message on me

Rahhh

[carmine pecan]

That's one of the possible POVs on it

[dusky jacinth]

This I can’t defend

[molten bobcat]

#modules

[dusky jacinth]

I am Infact maidenless

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-maidens-gif-27260529

[molten bobcat]

If you're reporting issues with a module, #1234357888114364508

[dusky jacinth]

Anyway Idrc I sent you the request you can either accept or not

[carmine pecan]

Guys I just ate an ant

[dusky jacinth]

Still gonna get good at hacking regardless

[carmine pecan]

not on purpose though

[sharp shuttle]

of course ill accept it

[molten bobcat]

And by issues I mean "corrections"

For erratum

[wheat tulip]

The person I talked about usually celebrates her birthday during the Halloween, does it happen for you to do the same?

[dusky jacinth]

Classic reverse psychology ladies and gents

Jkjk

[wheat tulip]

If you are old enough you can also adopt

[carmine pecan]

I prefer aggresive psychology

using swords

[carmine pecan]

vro?

[dusky jacinth]

Valid

[sharp shuttle]

yeah shes going to summon Lilith and enact the tragedy of the garden of eden all over again

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/lilith-gif-2299598454971558143

[dusky jacinth]

Dammit

[carmine pecan]

What is bor yammering about

[dusky jacinth]

This always happens

[sharp shuttle]

mommy

uppies

[dusky jacinth]

I keep getting Diablo’d

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hidding-embarrassed-so-embarrassed-im-embarrassed-gif-2879261371850596063

Elmo is leaving now

[dusky jacinth]

Aight

[wheat tulip]

În which religion does Lilith appear?

[dusky jacinth]

By thug

[molten bobcat]

Diablo

[carmine pecan]

Yes

[dusky jacinth]

Diablo 4

[sharp shuttle]

abrahamic, original hebrew

[dusky jacinth]

And also Evangelion

[wheat tulip]

I see, what was her role?

[dusky jacinth]

Woman

[sharp shuttle]

she is one of the 9

[dusky jacinth]

Jkjkjk

[sharp shuttle]

no this

actually

Look up lilith moon, dont make me educate you

[molten bobcat]

I believe the turn of phrase here is "Non-traditional"

[carmine pecan]

please educate me Brath

[sharp shuttle]

no

[carmine pecan]

ok

[dusky jacinth]

Ohhhhhhhh

You right

[wheat tulip]

Oh, but I dare you to educate me

[dusky jacinth]

Ayo?

[carmine pecan]

🫦

[sharp shuttle]

Double dog dare?

[quartz axle]

I’ve done it a few times but most of the times I don’t cause my close ones want to celebrate it on 28th itself but I’ve never met anyone with the same birthday before yknw.

[dusky jacinth]

👁️🫦👁️

[wheat tulip]

Donno what it means, but for sure

[molten bobcat]

This year I'm learning boundaries and learning to stop and relax

[quartz axle]

That looks so weird TwT

[dusky jacinth]

This year I want to learn to stop being a dickhead

And care less about things I can’t control

[quartz axle]

That’s such a good thing honestly

[wheat tulip]

Well being 8 billion people on the globe but only 365 days, the chances should be pretty big to meet someone with the same birthday as you

[molten bobcat]

I got diagnosed with anxiety so I'm just trying to learn how to cope with the day to day again

[dusky jacinth]

Sorry to hear that

[molten bobcat]

It's all good

[dusky jacinth]

When’d you get diagnosed

[molten bobcat]

It's mostly under control with medication

[sharp shuttle]

Fucking yuncs i swear, lilith is the original succubus who creates demon hybrids called cambion

[dusky jacinth]

If that’s not too personal

[molten bobcat]

Was about February or March

[dusky jacinth]

Okok I see

[quartz axle]

Yeah I know and I have friends who know people with the same birthdays but I’ve personally never met someone like that. And it’s not that I’m not social or anything as well but maybe cause I don’t ask every person I meet their birthday as well so ig yeah

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah I haven’t been medicated in a hot minutes

[molten bobcat]

Lilith, also spelled Lilit, Lilitu, or Lilis, is a feminine figure in Mesopotamian and Jewish mythology. According to accounts in the Talmud she is a primordial she-demon. Lilith is cited as having been "banished" from the Garden of Eden for disobeying Adam.

[dusky jacinth]

Minus you know cough cough “medication”

[wheat tulip]

Ah I see, she had an important role

[sharp shuttle]

cloud posted the full lore

its deeper but that the gist

[molten bobcat]

Primordial She Demon in abrahamic mythology

Of course I copied a summary so it's brief

[wheat tulip]

Yep, reasonable enough. Do you believe that birthdates or more specifically, the zodiac signs can influence the behaivour / the future traits of a person?

[sharp shuttle]

asmodeus and the caananites came from the cambion corruption of lustful men

[molten bobcat]

Das astrology

[sharp shuttle]

7 original sins, you cant even think of an eighth

its a perfect system

[dusky jacinth]

Fun fact

7 deadly sins don’t exists in the bible

[sharp shuttle]

if you want a goth girl you best start believing in it

[dusky jacinth]

They are mentioned, but they aren’t in there as the “Seven Deadly Sins”

[wheat tulip]

Well it is, but in my opinion is more of a psychology trying to fit a large group of people with a similar main characteristic (in our case the zodiac sign) in a social group with certain different characteristics

[carmine pecan]

Yes and learn to dance the zeibekiko

[sharp shuttle]

they do, its just not in the christian version (babies first bible)

[dusky jacinth]

It’s not Ethiopian either

[wheat tulip]

Their looks are amazing, but they not represent what I am looking for

[carmine pecan]

ok banned

Banned for that sentence

[molten bobcat]

I don't have any one particular religion I don't think

[sharp shuttle]

i wish you godspeed in your quest

[dusky jacinth]

If it’s not the Normal KKV or the Ethiopian I don’t give it credit

[sharp shuttle]

theist? gnostic? agnostic? atheist?

[molten bobcat]

Probably agnostic?

[sharp shuttle]

welcome to the club

[zealous charm]

[wheat tulip]

What is agnostic?

How does it differ from atheist?

[molten bobcat]

I think the existence of God is impossible to know for sure

[sharp shuttle]

probably a god but who knows which one(s)

[molten bobcat]

Due to it requiring you to die first

There's not a whole lot known for a fact what happens to the consciousness after death

[wheat tulip]

Well all gods are pretty similar but have different names

[sharp shuttle]

thats very true

ie why im agnostic

[molten bobcat]

I'm of the belief it's impossible to know

That's why it's called Faith

[sharp shuttle]

the same stories, same figures, same powers in all earthly religion

be careful who your swear allegiance to

[molten bobcat]

I just want folks to be happy and respectful of others

[wheat tulip]

I, personally, would go as far as calling it hope

[molten bobcat]

But that is an impossible ask apparently lol

[molten bobcat]

Faith and hope are synonyms

[sharp shuttle]

pascals wager is one of those bell curve meme items

[molten bobcat]

But faith I think is a stronger kind of hope

It's a "knowing" things will work out

Takes weight off a person

[wheat tulip]

Faith in my own definition would be blindly believing, hope would be "I'm still trying because there is a chance to come out as I wish for"

[dusky jacinth]

I’m Christian for sure, but I despise the modern church

It’s fake to me

[molten bobcat]

Eh, I think you can have faith in something with a full understanding of it

[dusky jacinth]

But I believe everyone deserves a seat at the table

[wheat tulip]

As a Christian orthodox, we have many traditions That involve giving to the priest money

[sharp shuttle]

its a control system, dont call yourself a christian, call yourself a follower of christ (its meaningful)

[dusky jacinth]

Idrc where you come from or have done. I have no right to judge you

[molten bobcat]

I have faith in my friends, I know they'll be there for me, kinda stuff

[dusky jacinth]

I do believe in the soul though

[wheat tulip]

We have in our biggest church, poses for people to donate money

[sharp shuttle]

i do too

[heady sage]

I fight for my friends

[dusky jacinth]

I think our flesh is simply a vessel

[molten bobcat]

Yeh

[dusky jacinth]

True

[sharp shuttle]

earthly material

[molten bobcat]

I felt this often when working with the disabled

[dusky jacinth]

Some of the strongest people I know

[molten bobcat]

Guy I worked with, Ricky, very developmentally disabled and physically disabled due to an awful car accident as a child

[wheat tulip]

Judging, but keeping the thoughts to your inner self could be beneficial. It can allow you to sense the intention of others, or help you prevent certain harmful actions that others try to achieve.

[molten bobcat]

Still lives a lovely and happy life

[dusky jacinth]

My grandma has MS and back in the she graduated from NYU

[molten bobcat]

And is able to express himself, joy and sadness both

[dusky jacinth]

She’s wicked smart but it sucks I never got to know try at side of her

[molten bobcat]

So yeh, I think the soul might be a thing

[dusky jacinth]

I think we would’ve been best friends

[molten bobcat]

Either that or there's something special about humans and the capacity for love

[dusky jacinth]

I can determine one’s intentions without judging them as a human

[molten bobcat]

It's a strange thing, assigning a science to a feeling