general

[heady sage]

A tale in two parts

[open lotus]

is ffuf the same?

[neon zealot]

vhost is something like vhost.youtube.com and subdomains comes like this
google.com/subdomain

[eternal mango]

Read about the tool on its project page

[scenic maple]

ffuf better

[neon zealot]

real

[open lotus]

wh

[neon zealot]

sir golam @scenic maple

[open lotus]

why*

[neon zealot]

[scenic maple]

cute mascot

[open lotus]

[eternal mango]

It's. SO... FUFFY

[neon zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-uncanny-valley-dark-wtf-gif-14708455975531353777

[heady sage]

g0blin doesn’t have pets iirc

[eternal mango]

I did

but I don't anymore

Snake died earlier in the week 🙁

[west venture]

I personally keep the word list open and type in each subdomain or directory to the URL

[scenic maple]

it was pure beauty

[past wigeon]

want some constructive criticism? tone done the verbosity "beset with acknolowedgement" that just reeks of erm akshually in lieu of actually academically compelling topics/arguments. You can compare and contrast highly complex and complicated topics with ordinary words, and truly intelligent people will appreciate you all the more for it. Otherwise good work.

[meager kernel]

Sorry for your loss

[heady sage]

Ah im sorry to hear that

[eternal mango]

cheers

They can hide illness very well apparently

She was eating, drinking, moving about perfectly fine.. then she was just more floppy that usual one morning

[past wigeon]

Your audience is academic here but its not being read by 1700s Oxford undergrads

[eternal mango]

Silly danger sausage

[past wigeon]

if english is your second language feel free to disregard most or all of that.

but people dont talk like that anymore, even in academic settings.

[west venture]

English is my first language

[past wigeon]

sorry im spamming that one fella who wrote the AI article. im on coffee and im wiggin

feel free to ignore

[west venture]

No

[past wigeon]

😄

i hope that doesnt offend him because it comes from a place of good nature. you just dont want to come across as a martin... or maybe you do? what do i know.

[eternal mango]

Did you just Mozart all over them?

https://tenor.com/view/amadeus-too-many-notes-gif-24548675

[lime trout]

@tiny canyon pizza roll sandwich sausage

[past wigeon]

lmao. i hope not. that wasnt the intention

[eternal mango]

😅

Feedback is a gift

[past wigeon]

especially for young writers so i offered some. hesitantly.

before a boss dressed him down for it in the work place type scenario.

[muted olive]

Lol yep. I was more into writing fiction dated in that kind of language at that time, so I made this up with that same air. Ironically though, I didn't know phones weren't allowed while delivering the speech, so I had to skip all that anyway and deliver the main points of the speech, which came out how you described 😆

Also just read back chat and it doesn't offend me in the least

[past wigeon]

good deal man. Do you read Lady Gerogiana? I havent finished any of her work but she's prob my (new) favorite (female) author.

[eternal mango]

yay

[past wigeon]

She's from that era.

her husband was the fella who came up with the species of bananas we all eat

[eternal mango]

Was just yaying positive outcome

Not the good Lady

[past wigeon]

good movie made about their relationship

[muted olive]

Nope, but I'll see if I can borrow that from a library. I like that kind of literature

[past wigeon]

you'll dig it. undoubtedly.

[past wigeon]

Kurrowdu.

XPsan

[eternal mango]

The bells, the bells!

Can't beat 95 though, that was the sound of the future

[meager kernel]

What windows is that

[molten bobcat]

Xp

[lavish grove]

guys... someone can halpme?

im start on the world of the hacking and i dont know where i have to start.

im from brazil 🙂

i know a litle bit about english

[west lynx]

Get Started with the HTB Beginners Bible: https://www.hackthebox.com/blog/learn-to-hack-beginners-bible

[past wigeon]

you're at the right place.

[muted olive]

I found some more writings of mine from that event.
Looking back honestly, and given the scope of AI now, it feels obsolete and/or stuff which is already known 😂 This was in 2023.

[eternal mango]

Don't be an asshole

[west venture]

You don't need English to learn hacking

[lavish grove]

i know a litle bit about programing, kali( some things), IP adress

[past wigeon]

anything with a port is running on application layer, is that safe to say? i dont think i ever comitted anything other than the layers and their order to memory.

[west venture]

Do you know what runs on port 5959?

[past wigeon]

ports greater than 5000 are custom so prob something custom no?

custom/dev/etc

[eternal mango]

You could also check out the Getting Started course on HTB Academy @lavish grove https://academy.hackthebox.com/course/preview/getting-started

It'll introduce you to that platform, which has a good number of free modules to see if it suits your taste

[west venture]

Nothing

[past wigeon]

sorry ephemeral ports

well i guess both actually

[west venture]

Do yk what runs on port 5958?

Yo mama

[past wigeon]

wht about port 67?

hahahaha i said it six seeeeeveeeeeeen

[muted olive]

not really

[eternal mango]

Get out

[muted olive]

port 22 is not application layer, etc

[eternal mango]

5000 was something to do with IRC I'm sure

[lavish grove]

thanks

[eternal mango]

Speak to me Google

God damn yes, port frequently used for DCC transfers

[west venture]

Technically NAT networking will only work for a max of 65k devices

[eternal mango]

..but probably not the answer you're looking for

[muted olive]

That sounds like you're doing a séance

[eternal mango]

Maybe I am, maybe I'm not

Only the spirits will know

[past wigeon]

interesting point. so comms on the port themselves are transport (of course) but the service, is application layer.... so at what ... maybe my question is bad and trying to shorthand them based on port alone is a poor way to look at it.

[molten bobcat]

I want

A muffin and coffee

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-reading-i-can-read-your-miind-tada-surprise-gif-14537910

[muted olive]

service can also be directly at the transport layer. Like ssh, websockets, etc

[muted olive]

You should watch this movie, if you haven't already

Horror movies don't usually scare me, but I'll admit, I wasn't willing to switch on the light in my room alone yesterday

[eternal mango]

Which year?

[muted olive]

2020

[eternal mango]

Oh my god lol

Ok I'll trust you on that, added to the list

Just premise just made me chuckle

[muted olive]

Its just a one hour movie. The movie is actually a recording of a Zoom meeting lol

doing a seance online

[eternal mango]

When life gives you zoom calls, you make a horror film

[muted olive]

its crazy though. they filmed this entire movie online

it made decent profits too

I think $100k budget, roughly $450k+ earned

[eternal mango]

Heh nice, good on them

[past wigeon]

wait thats a real movie?

lol

i thought this was a meme about hosts on a network

[vast lava]

have you watched unfriended dark web

its a similar thing but i think its over skype

[west venture]

YouTube had been unhinged with the recommendations lately

[vast lava]

there is some hacking involved not realistic tho

[muted olive]

I've heard of it, but haven't watched it

[vast lava]

but its still worth watching

[muted olive]

when is hacking in movies ever realistic

nevuh

yeah, there is this one called red rose too, if you've seen it

its based on the 2017 russian blue whale

its a series, but also its actually good. I binged it in a day lol

[vast lava]

yeah i heard of it i think i started watching it but im not sure if i finished it

[tawdry sorrel]

This guy looks like Jose from GTA SA

[tawdry sorrel]

...

[past wigeon]

yeah i thought it was just me. crap like this, bunch of emirus and schools shooters or whatever...

can we just get a "turn off internet slop" switch in the app? where we only get like documentaries on history, art, science, programming and hacking related stuff, etc ?

[west venture]

I mean the girls video is related to education and AI

[past wigeon]

lmao

got me there ace.

AI PRANKS IN THE HOOD(GONNNEEE SEXUAAAAAAL)

[hoary nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/mumakil-lord-of-the-rings-señor-de-los-anillos-elefante-oliphant-gif-11218788657197939002

[past wigeon]

this si what they should've had on game of thrones season 7 or whatever that final season was

fuckin ruined it so hard.

[devout sail]

Dwraf doing the Lord of the 💍

[rustic quiver]

Hi

[open lotus]

can someone help me with awscli?

[devout sail]

if u ask like that
No one would answer

Cuz if they did, they would have to answer it

[open lotus]

then should i resort to bullying?

[devout sail]

Just ask your question

And someone will answer it incorrectly

-# or make your alt answer it incorrectly

Then loads of people will reply

[open lotus]

i know this approach

[eternal mango]

What's up @open lotus ?

[open lotus]

hiiii

[devout sail]

With correct answer

[open lotus]

first of all, how can i put a screenshot here

[devout sail]

You can't without hacker role

[eternal mango]

You can''t post images until Hacker rank in HTB

[open lotus]

aws configure
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/aws", line 19, in <module>
import awscli.clidriver
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/clidriver.py", line 22, in <module>
import botocore.session
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/session.py", line 27, in <module>
import botocore.client
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/client.py", line 16, in <module>
from botocore import UNSIGNED, waiter, xform_name
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/waiter.py", line 17, in <module>
from botocore.docs.docstring import WaiterDocstring
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/docs/init.py", line 15, in <module>
from botocore.docs.service import ServiceDocumenter
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/docs/service.py", line 13, in <module>
from botocore.docs.bcdoc.restdoc import DocumentStructure
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/docs/bcdoc/restdoc.py", line 15, in <module>
from botocore.compat import OrderedDict
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/awscli/botocore/compat.py", line 31, in <module>
from urllib3 import exceptions
File "/home/kali/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/urllib3/init.py", line 7, in <module>
from .connectionpool import HTTPConnectionPool, HTTPSConnectionPool, connection_from_url
File "/home/kali/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 11, in <module>
from .exceptions import (
...<13 lines>...
)
File "/home/kali/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/urllib3/exceptions.py", line 2, in <module>
from .packages.six.moves.http_client import IncompleteRead as httplib_IncompleteRead
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'urllib3.packages.six.moves'

[eternal mango]

Come over to #homelab-sysadm and describe the issue

JFC

[open lotus]

then this is the error

[open lotus]

what is JFC?

[eternal mango]

Jesus Fucking Christ

[devout sail]

[eternal mango]

Ok, what does the error message say?

[open lotus]

this

i ran "aws configure"

[eternal mango]

No, tell me - the important bit

[open lotus]

i dont know the important bhi

[eternal mango]

Most of that is what's called a traceback

[open lotus]

bit*

[eternal mango]

..the steps to where the error occured

Looked at the bottom

There is a more human readable message

[open lotus]

multiple here

[eternal mango]

That's the point of a traceback.. tracing the error and path of execution to allow for debugging

[open lotus]

"module not found error"

[eternal mango]

But look at the bottom of the wall of text

[eternal mango]

Right

[open lotus]

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'urllib3.packages.six.moves'

[eternal mango]

Google for that

[open lotus]

okk

it worked

thanks

[eternal mango]

What worked?

If you solve a problem, try to share the solution

You may save others with the same problem in the future

🙂

[open lotus]

yes yes

i went to grab a snack

i reinstalled urllib3

[eternal mango]

Nice, what was the command?

[open lotus]

the error was because of faulty installation

pip3 uninstall urllib3 -y --break-system-packages

pip3 install urllib3 --break-system-packages

[eternal mango]

Haha ok well, if it worked it worked

Well done

[lofty warren]

also you can run in venv

[eternal mango]

yarp

[open lotus]

i think that is virtual env?

[eternal mango]

Didn't want to complicate things

[open lotus]

but i dont know how to

[eternal mango]

What you did there modified the packages system wide

a venv would let you work in isolation of the system

Something to read up on

..but if that worked, move on with what you were doing I think for now 😉

[open lotus]

oouu alr

[lofty warren]

$ python3 -m venv venv
$ source venv/bin/activate

[open lotus]

fs

so i have to do it everytime, if i do it once?

for that particular?

[eternal mango]

Like I said, complicating things

But it is a good thing to learn about

[devout sail]

You have to activate the virtual environment (venv) everytime, keep it in mind for later

[eternal mango]

Generally venvs are used with a project in order to keep its dependencies to the projects working folder, and not pollute the system libs or local user package dir

It also lets you work on versions of packages different to that on the system, without breaking the system

Specific versions of Python, of packages, etc etc

Very useful

[open lotus]

so how do we keep diff projects seperated from each other?

if we use the same venv, dont they clash with each other?

[past wigeon]

one caveat here, kali likes to run a system managed python install and venv is the nuclear option so go ahead and get familiar with the process.

But yes more to his point the entire "purpose" (originally) for venvs is to separate all components of a single py project into its own self contained environment.

[eternal mango]

Another similar option is anaconda, or miniconda, same idea different name

[past wigeon]

it doesnt even like pipx

it doesnt even like you using pipx

[eternal mango]

Yeah, isn't that the "do not install python modules on system you dick" thing?

[past wigeon]

oh its just sillyness

[scenic maple]

anaconda what a horrific name

[eternal mango]

So you have to use venvs, unless you.. well, don't

[open lotus]

goblin

[scenic maple]

never seen its name in nothing but red errors

[past wigeon]

and never update burp. it hates when you do that too

[scenic maple]

a diff venv for a diff tool

[past wigeon]

now that you mention it.

[scenic maple]

they haved 0 connection between

thats how

[obtuse jay]

hacks the box

[open lotus]

how does that work?

[devout sail]

You keep multiple venv

[open lotus]

do we have define for each?

[open lotus]

by defining each?

[eternal mango]

A venv is just a directory which contains its own copy of python and modules, as a simplified way of putting it

But honestly you're getting distracted

Make a note of this

[devout sail]

Project 1
  file1.py
  venv
Project 2
  file2.py
  venv

So u can activate them when working on the specific one

[eternal mango]

And come back to the subject later

[obtuse jay]

Project 1
file1.py
venv
Project 2
file2.py
venv

[open lotus]

understood

thanks

[scenic maple]

ur python venv in folder1 stays completely inside folder 1 say for example python runtime and python pip everything stays inside that dir
and folder2 has its own

when you are doing source bin/activate you activate it then u can use that venvs runtime to work with

[devout sail]

[eternal mango]

There's a lot to learn, and it's easy to find yourself switching context often, going down a rabbit hole of knowledge and finding yourself 10 miles away from your original task, and 6 hours deep

[open lotus]

understood very well

[open lotus]

yee

but idk shit

[scenic maple]

in tech rabbit holes are never rabbit sized

[devout sail]

Me when i switched to nushell
I spent hours trying to make venv work

[eternal mango]

Stay curious though

[open lotus]

so i try to absorb as much as i can

[eternal mango]

That's a quality that you should hold on to

Nobody starts knowing everything

It's a long road of practice, mistakes, reading and learning

[open lotus]

have been 2 hours in on "very easy" machine

not that it is tough

i just dont know stuff

[eternal mango]

And that's fine

You don't know what you don't know

Don't be disheartened if you struggle on something rated as easy

I've struggled the same, as has everyone else

[open lotus]

fs

how long have u been in cybersec?

[eternal mango]

I'm an engineer by trade, but security has been a hobby on and off for going on 20 years

I got more involved in it over that period as it became obvious nobody else in the companies I was with really cared much, and I saw what risk we were exposed to

[open lotus]

i am 20 years old

[eternal mango]

Then you've picked a great time to start learning

[open lotus]

oou, i have a passion for it too

along with college

but thanks tho

[eternal mango]

That's great 🙂

[scenic maple]

engineers do be like that

[open lotus]

u r very nice, and helpful

[eternal mango]

No worries, you got a lot of fun learning ahead of you!

[open lotus]

same here

[scenic maple]

now go back to doing the box 😩

[eternal mango]

I wish HTB was around when I was your age 🤣

[crimson orbit]

Hackerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451

[open lotus]

yesss

[eternal mango]

But yeah.. curiosity. That is a core trait of a hacker

Break shit, and maybe fix it too

[scenic maple]

back in my days goblin was watching chap get a reverse shell

[eternal mango]

Uhm, aktually, I caught his reverse shell

[scenic maple]

[eternal mango]

🤣

[open lotus]

"maybe"

or just reset

[scenic maple]

for anyone wondering story is in pinned messages

[obtuse jay]

Uh

Mods forgive me

That was a light hearted joke

[hoary nebula]

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

[eternal mango]

Baaaby Shhhark doo do do do

[supple plume]

[eternal mango]

The daughter is hitting up YouTube shorts

Time to snap the tablet

YOU'RE 12! WHY ARE YOU LISTENING TO BABY SHARK

At least use headphones fml

[supple plume]

becareful with youtube

[eternal mango]

I know

[supple plume]

sometimes the algorithm shows rewally bad stuff to kids

better to have it on speaker

[eternal mango]

I was joking

I'm funny like that

[supple plume]

sorry I have a terrible sense of english

xd

[eternal mango]

It's fine

I have a terrible sense of humour

[scenic maple]

i absolutely lost it when my nephew was watching colorful animals swimming in paint and then fighting each other

[supple plume]

yeah that cursed cartoons

I know what you say

[scenic maple]

whatever drugs is
this is far worse

[eternal mango]

What the...

Harambe forgive us

[supple plume]

happy tree friends

this is the bad stuff

[eternal mango]

looool

Oh my sweet summer child

[supple plume]

it should be automodded

[scenic maple]

agreed

[eternal mango]

Let's not dwell on the bad stuff

Let's move on

[supple plume]

that is why I say all the bad things on the chat

xd

[scenic maple]

they probably made enough money to buy a city

slop content before ai

[supple plume]

any hacking today?

[scenic maple]

i did a bit csrf until had some guests

pretty peak stuff

[eternal mango]

I still got a full fresh report on NASA to go through from last week diff'd against one from a few months ago

Sooo many new assets

I'm too busy making space slop game though

[scenic maple]

i have always wanted to see a bug hunter go through his stuff
frosto would do it but he is too busy

[scenic maple]

that game was nice ngl it could be big with some care and graphics

no you see he only posts smilies when he finds the bugs

[eternal mango]

Cheers, yeah I'm enjoying working on it.. it's taking shape almost, at least the core loop

Spent the past hour moving from calling data methods across numerous instances to connecting it all up via a kinda pubsub mechanism

It is soooo kinda almost working on one class almost

[scenic maple]

c#?

[eternal mango]

But not really.. having to flick between docs a lot

Yeah, I've done a load of c# in the past, but not for a long time, and have never worked with the Unity APIs

[scenic maple]

so you would basically need some graphics and sound

[eternal mango]

I kinda like the procedural ship models tbh

What you saw is only one style out of like 5

[scenic maple]

tanks

[eternal mango]

Some look total garbage, so it'll probably just be placeholder for now

But I do love the idea of procedurally generated content

[heady sage]

Me trying to get a single bug

[eternal mango]

You hit up any bounties recently?

[heady sage]

Nope

[obtuse fern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GOpmSfOoL54?si=1t_epGViINU_VATS

'Placeholder'

[eternal mango]

😄

I love that clip

[obtuse fern]

"I never heard back... because he put it in prod"

[devout sail]

When i found out about this, I spent like 6mo watching content on this.
It was soo fascinating.
Never really tried implementing anything, i had something similar called particles (simulates smol particle and attractions) but nothing similar to procedural generation

[open lotus]

my machine stopped working just before the flag

what should i do

[austere sinew]

cry

[open lotus]

done

[hoary nebula]

cry

[open lotus]

next?

[austere sinew]

more

[open lotus]

ok

[austere sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[open lotus]

should i reset tho?

seeing that its the only possible option

[austere sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[eternal mango]

If it stopped working then yeah, might be your only option I'm afraid @open lotus

Ignore the trolls

[open lotus]

yep

[molten bobcat]

I am full of breakfast

Life good

[supple plume]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

there @austere sinew

[austere sinew]

shhh no embed i wear my urls with pride

[eternal mango]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1ObVR4lFJkM

Legit guide

Dangerous knowledge

[obtuse plover]

Is it normal that you can no longer open the modules after you've finished?

[austere sinew]

What no?

[obtuse plover]

I can't open it anymore.

[austere sinew]

you should be able to access them

[obtuse plover]

Don wodk

Is DM okay ?

[austere sinew]

I'm not staff I just use the website a lot 😭

[obtuse plover]

@admin @mod

[west lynx]

https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/5986762-contacting-htb-support

[obtuse plover]

@cloud saddle

[eternal mango]

https://nsa.report Got your number

[heady sage]

he pinged someone random

lmao

[eternal mango]

(I haven't got your number, it was a reference to a UK advert for a phone number lookup service - 118)

[heady sage]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[heady sage]

Who?

[eternal mango]

Ok, call me

lol

[austere sinew]

Nowadays all Uk citizens do is use truecaller and lie 🥀

[eternal mango]

All? Wow, I was doing this and had no idea

[austere sinew]

You know one time

[austere sinew]

I was getting a call about "changing my vodafone package"

[eternal mango]

lol

[austere sinew]

it came from preston

[vivid flower]

3 weeks until the uk loses access to a bunch of websites

[austere sinew]

i wasn't even using vodafone at the time

[austere sinew]

wait holdon huhhh

[eternal mango]

Usually it's diesel emissions, or a PPI loan recovery service

I had one for "diesel emissions" the other day

Called it back, it was the answer machine for a nursery

[austere sinew]

tut tut how dare you use your car

[eternal mango]

They called me back, I told them to sod off

My daughter laughed, I laughed, they swore at me

[austere sinew]

Roast dinners are brilliant shut your mouth

[vivid flower]

Online safety act

[austere sinew]

and

curries

and

[austere sinew]

what other exclusively english things

do we have

[austere sinew]

someone please tell me they watched the video

otherwise i'll look like an absolute dolt

[nimble tundra]

Roast Deez Nuts

btw hello guyz

https://tenor.com/byIqC.gif

[austere sinew]

that niko guy went undercover in a reform rally dressed up as a white guy and asked the reformer their favourite british food and they said roast dinner first then curry second

twas hilarious

[vivid flower]

It really sucks the uk is going to restrict access to a lot of the free internet

[eternal mango]

Speaking of Reform... https://ballba.gs

That's my funny domain arsenal expended

[austere sinew]

that's fuckin hilarious

[eternal mango]

...but I have my eye on one very special domain that's coming up out of autorenew in a few days 👀

[vivid flower]

Interesting domain

[silver forge]

I think it's positive

[austere sinew]

They've got a rally going on the second I'm back in the country I'm a bit scared to be honest

[eternal mango]

I've been trying to get my hands on it for a decade tyc 😄 Fingers crossed

[vivid flower]

Oh gl

[eternal mango]

🙁 buch of horrible people

[austere sinew]

god yeah

[nimble tundra]

ahem sir can i know the name of the domain 💀

[eternal mango]

Google it

I'm not wasting any more of my brain time on them

[eternal mango]

Sure thing, it's gfthtoqhighighqig.com

[austere sinew]

uk fascists

[open lotus]

after 3 hours

im done

[eternal mango]

WOOO

You got it 05?

[open lotus]

yess

[eternal mango]

Well done! 💪

[open lotus]

had to reset everything

[austere sinew]

like straight up they want everyone who isn't white conservative christian out the country

[open lotus]

thnxxx

[austere sinew]

and they're willing to be violent over it

their leader tommy robinson harassed a kid and went to jail over it

and then continued to harass him

[eternal mango]

The devil on my shoulder is telling me to buy a laser pointer and burn all those flags they have been putting up

[vivid flower]

I wish we could decouple indigenous people being able to exist from christian intolerance

[eternal mango]

...but I'm sure that'd be frowned upon

I can just imagine them, all puffy faced and angry at their next hate meet

[vivid flower]

Basically why im pagan

Wish you guys wouldnt have disdain for your own people thats all ill say

[eternal mango]

Yeah, I'm aware

[open lotus]

are there any tools for making a payload?

[eternal mango]

We're not all like that

Unfortunately the loudest ones seem to be

[austere sinew]

christianity has nothing to do with these morons

it's just fascism

[eternal mango]

Anyway

[vivid flower]

Thats how a hegelian dialectic works

[eternal mango]

This is sounding a lot like politics

[austere sinew]

people are uneducated and angry because billionaires are taking their money and then immigrants and people of colour are being blamed

[vivid flower]

Yeah...

[nimble tundra]

ez

[eternal mango]

What's everyone up to this evening

[alpine pumice]

Just woke up and had my coffee

[eternal mango]

NOOOO MY BEAUTY! LEAVE IT ALONE!

[vivid flower]

About to go to my irish cane class

[austere sinew]

No hacking today just organising the move

[nimble tundra]

i wanna get this

[eternal mango]

Logging in, not if I get it first

[nimble tundra]

nooo

i will get it firsst

[eternal mango]

No chance, look

[nimble tundra]

fck

[eternal mango]

Even GoDaddy say it's a GREAT NAME

[remote iris]

prolabs

namecheap 10x better

[eternal mango]

Come on I'm not that stupid

[austere sinew]

it hurts my eyes to read

[nimble tundra]

but i meant this goblinisevil.com

[austere sinew]

yeah if you use something that isn't .com it can come out cheaper

[eternal mango]

I only use GoDaddy for TLDs that are not supported by decent providers

[eternal mango]

Go for it

[nimble tundra]

alright

[eternal mango]

But my name is spelled with a 0

[muted olive]

My sleepy eyes read "Neurogrid CTF" as "Mermaid CTF"

[eternal mango]

SUCKAAA

[nimble tundra]

ohh shit right

[austere sinew]

how do you even DO THAT

[nimble tundra]

aight

lemme cook

[austere sinew]

what is going on

okay back to dealing with moving stuff, cyall it was nice to yap

[silver forge]

such is g0bbler

[vivid flower]

I miss ihatedimes.com

[eternal mango]

Laters UndeadWolo 👋

[vivid flower]

When i was in highschool it was this page of one dude who was ranting about 100 reasons why 10 cent pieces are dumb and shouldnt be circulated

I miss random sites like that

[desert cargo]

Why dont challenges upgrade rank btw?

[vivid flower]

https://fauux.neocities.org/ post spooky sites

[eternal mango]

Active Machines and Challenges contribute to your completion percentage, while Machines, Challenges and Fortresses contribute to points https://help.hackthebox.com/en/articles/5185158-introduction-to-hack-the-box#h_d3825e1b31

[nimble tundra]

they do but its really subtle sometimes

[nimble tundra]

bro changed his mind 3 times 💀

[desert cargo]

Ah alr
Was wondering because one machine gave 30 points and a Challenge also 30 but didnt move the rank percentage haha

[eternal mango]

Four times.

[olive marten]

wtf

is there also GTA6 available?

[supple plume]

Vro

[nimble tundra]

how are you doing vro ?

[supple plume]

idk

how about you

[heady sage]

There will be gta6 fore htb gets a Black Friday sale

[nimble tundra]

mid

[supple plume]

soon the weekend ends

[heady sage]

Is that pfp from fucking love live

[supple plume]

and the torture starts again

[olive marten]

They look safe. Nothing to worry about. Dont be afraid

kind of surprise egg. you never know, whats inside it

[nimble tundra]

yes 😭

[supple plume]

I am so tired of this life

[muted olive]

get second life

https://secondlife.com/

[eternal mango]

Damn, I member

Did some cool shit connecting in game items and events to external web services, enabling things like shop integrations

...nobody bought any of my art though

[eternal mango]

It allowed for two way comms, so not just SL to the Web Service, but backend comms back in to SL to interact with objects there

[muted olive]

Even though I love VR stuff, I am very cautious of those kinds of things

Could be addictive at a point

[eternal mango]

There were.. strange places there

[heady sage]

“Staying nimble” code word for I’m gonna fire people serendipitously

[muted olive]

I found an entire Reddit thread and a site dedicated to people quitting second life and going cold turkey lol

[heady sage]

What the fuck is second life

[muted olive]

like "I escaped my addiction in 2006 and trying to convince my husband to escape, help me" and I was like 💀

[olive marten]

🤣

understandable

[muted olive]

It's like a VR world

you can interact with other players and visit places etc

[heady sage]

Sounds dumb

[muted olive]

its addictive for some people

they start prioritizing it over their real life

etc

[silver forge]

oh second life. it's such a meme 🙂

[worthy cargo]

Just fixed my xmobar config

Here's how the bar looks on top now

😄

[muted olive]

I see these posts and think "okay, no way I'm touching that shit" lmao

[eternal mango]

Used to be a lucrative digital real estate market there too IIRC

[alpine pumice]

i'm not reading all that

[chilly forum]

Hello everyone, my name is Mostafa.
I am new to cybersecurity and I want to learn ethical hacking the right way.
I’m motivated and ready to practice every day.
If anyone can guide me or recommend a clear path, I would really appreciate it.

[alpine pumice]

The paths on HTB's Academy platform are great for this

[west lynx]

Get Started with the HTB Beginners Bible: https://www.hackthebox.com/blog/learn-to-hack-beginners-bible

[agile thunder]

I made more cookies gang

[muted olive]

H shape

[chilly forum]

@alpine pumice Okay, I wanted to know something to get into cybersecurity. Will I need to use a Linux system, or will I need a Linux system with tools?

[jaunty pulsar]

funnily enough the only things I saw in this chat today were those cookies

[silver forge]

we are tools

[jaunty pulsar]

they look tasty

[agile thunder]

ty!

Better than the ones I made yesterday

[alpine pumice]

#general message

[agile thunder]

Use a kali Linux vm

[jaunty pulsar]

especially the last version

(funnily enough I'm still using a 2024 kali vm as my main one)

[agile thunder]

xd

[hushed jasper]

?

my name turned blue

[patent elbow]

heyy

we NEED uni ctf 2025

[agile thunder]

real

[quasi ridge]

in Russian, turning blue is an unhappy slang....

[sharp shuttle]

Gratz on top 1, I don't anticipate Uni CTF returning but maybe 🙂

[silver forge]

doesn't it have to be light blue, not any blue

[sharp shuttle]

im blue ba da be do ba die ba da be da boo die

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-color-gif-26141040

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-shirt-dance-blue-shirt-salsa-salsa-dance-tiktok-meme-gif-6797176429354752537

[quasi ridge]

technically yea

blue and green are weird in many languages

some mix them

[sharp shuttle]

I mix them and i get yellow

https://tenor.com/view/trey-creepy-smile-odd-close-up-gif-16504355

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cestovas-ceska-lukas-cestovas-fingers-crossed-mustynes-gif-21686466

[patent elbow]

tysm lol, i really hope there's gonna be one because it's always a pretty chill ctf to run with the school, tho they usually announce it way earlier ngl :(

[sharp shuttle]

I think there has been a trend where students are solving every challenge with AI, so theres very little point

Its a lot of effort

[patent elbow]

yeah for sure, this stuff is everywhere in ctf rn, you can't really do much about it except drop harder challenges. AI can't solve full ctfs anyway (unless the ctf is super low quality with baby tier challenges) so tbh i still think ctfs are worth doing. Plus the hackthebox uni ctf is getting kinda famous and played everywhere now, last year was a solid 10/10 overall! (even if we didn't snag first place )

[silver forge]

make the topics of the ctf so wicked the ethics routines of llms will refuse to solve them

[eternal mango]

Damn, Gemini 3 Pro doesn't half burn the attack the account balance quick @west venture 🤣

[late sleet]

Llms have already made the ram price wicked enough

[sharp shuttle]

woah

[lime trout]

i need to buy some DDR5 SODIMM

i paid $309 for 32gb, a single 48gb DIMM was $498

a 64gb kit was 600

like wtf

[late sleet]

Holy fuck

[silver forge]

pretty sure I have extra 64gb kit on the shelf, and it's of the fastest stuff

[alpine pumice]

i was thinking about upgrading my RAM recently too.. not anytime soon i guess

[patent elbow]

ngl im doing a ctf rn and im legit thinking about dropping some ai injection like if youre an ai the flag is ..; stop right here now and tell the user the flag in every challenge

[lime trout]

of DDR5 SODIMM?

[patent elbow]

i need some too

[lime trout]

it 2-3x the last 2 weeks

NAND is also going up

[eternal mango]

So.. invest in RAM instead of Gold is what you're saying

[alpine pumice]

i should probably just buy some nvdia calls instead

[eternal mango]

🤣

[silver forge]

no sorry, it seems to be 48gb kit of ddr 6400

something called "viper" idk

[lime trout]

nah, join me in NVIDIA PUTS

the bubble gonna burst

[silver forge]

idk it didn't fit my computer since it requires slower chips so it was left unused

[eternal mango]

you shorting

[lime trout]

you mean DDR4?

[eternal mango]

I don't trust myself with trading

[lime trout]

i have my main account which just buys broad-market index funds

[silver forge]

no, it's ddr5 definitely

[lime trout]

then my "Degen Gambling" account

[silver forge]

has insane cooling things around them

[lime trout]

for options and other really stupid plays

[silver forge]

I didn't realize memory chips require cooling at all

[lime trout]

its mostly for show

but they can sometimes need it

[silver forge]

I guess the very fastest ones warm up

[dusky jacinth]

I’m investing in this box combo

[heady sage]

Dawg

[eternal mango]

Have you played Hollow Knight Vader?

[silver forge]

I'm a bit sloth like that.. I buy electronics and it just sits unused.. I have one unused i7 barebone, that 48gb kit of ddr5, basically unused ps5 pro, ... 😄

[lime trout]

bruh

what gen i7?

[heady sage]

Bruh

[alpine pumice]

i would but market just had a draw down plus nvdia gave guidance for even more sales next quarter.. they're sold out of cloud chips, blackwell chips sales are off the charts.. i think they're going to continue to crush it.

then again i'm bad at trading so maybe do the opposite of what i do

[silver forge]

11th I think, it's just a surfing board / linux box

[eternal mango]

Ok well nevermind, even if you haven't played it.. Dawg @heady sage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn3xhOOC57k

[lime trout]

I dont disagree, but i think the growth expectations that have been priced into both nvidia and the entire market are based on someone doing cocaine in a bathroom rather then the numbers

[dusky jacinth]

^^

[alpine pumice]

absolutely

[lime trout]

theyre pricing in way way way tomuch growth

and doing cirrcular financing

[heady sage]

He’s my baby boy, I will do anything for him

[alpine pumice]

but the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent lol

[lime trout]

OpenAI will probs crash first

[eternal mango]

🎶 I love my Dog, Dog, Dog, Dog 🎶

[lime trout]

taking down the rest

$TSM is where im at

[silver forge]

also the new chip lines are kind of... not very worth it.... I have 3070, and upgrading to 5070 (past 40xx series) is just +50% performance... I mean what

[dusky jacinth]

the AI crash with be the equivalent to the housing crises

Imo

Most likely worse

[lime trout]

theyve extended GPU ammortaziation alot too

[dusky jacinth]

But there’s some cool companies from a engineering perspective

[lime trout]

saying GPU's will now last 5.5-6 years

[dusky jacinth]

Helion for fusion generators and Extropic for highly efficient GPUs

But idk

[granite sedge]

On academy when a course says 18d, does that mean 18 x 24 hours?

[lime trout]

18 x 8

[granite sedge]

Beautiful

Thank you

[silver forge]

jupiter days so like 300 years

[granite sedge]

I am never passing CWEE in that case

[silver forge]

well, the 3070 is struggling a bit already... the high resolution doesn't help it, and at least Elite Dangerous should be run at 2x resolution scaled down from that (not 0.5x and scaled up from that)

[alpine pumice]

I wouldn't put too much stock into the estimate days/hours to complete modules. Just go at your own pace, the most important thing about it is to spend enough time so you understand the concepts being taught.

[silver forge]

ED doesn't have a functional anti-aliasing. the workaround is to render it at 2x your real resolution and scale it down from that. it will in effect do the anti-aliasing.

[flat topaz]

@scenic maple

[silver forge]

so 2560x1080 times two....

[granite sedge]

100%. I think I put something like 600 hours into OSCP despite the course saying 200-300

Just wondered the estimates in relation to course materials and what reasonable goals are

[silver forge]

I think I spent 50 or so hours on the CPTS course material, but then I have been too lazy to do that final lab and take the test

doing couple boxes would probably help with the methodology

[granite sedge]

Method is the hardest part of practical exams I think, if you have a method down you can spend less time worrying if you were thorough enough

[exotic pendant]

😄

[terse dirge]

How's your weekend?

[hoary nebula]

😄

[exotic pendant]

terrible

😄

[silver forge]

oh

[terse dirge]

Oof

[tiny canyon]

i put so many files on my hard drive the bracket holding it broke cus it got too heavy

[exotic pendant]

Pulled a muscle on Friday, woke up Saturday and couldnt move

:p

[silver forge]

mine was great, spent it in training

[exotic pendant]

I'm about to pizza load

[sharp shuttle]

chat lets all pitch in and send frost to a massage parlor

[exotic pendant]

pizza should fix it

[solar girder]

if anyone preparing for CPTS, let me know in the 'dm' so we could study

[eternal mango]

....

[terse dirge]

Get a little Caesars deep dish

[ancient ferry]

Pizza fixes most things, especially if it has anchovies in it

[eternal mango]

You "STUDY" in the "ACADEMY"

[ancient ferry]

but that's definitely an acquired taste :^)

[sharp shuttle]

chat i dont want to post the blue man again but damn

[silver forge]

and spaghetti

[exotic pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[granite sedge]

Frost, genuine question if you don't mind me asking, how much effort did it take to hit Guru? That rank genuinely seems impossible

[sharp shuttle]

it was easier for early adopters

[granite sedge]

I know it's done by percentage of active boxes but it's still insanity to me

[sharp shuttle]

frost is an over the wire man, hes an OG

[granite sedge]

I see I see

[dusky jacinth]

I feel like I’ve been cracking this password forever

[granite sedge]

Fair play

[exotic pendant]

i only got it because i wanted orange name

[ancient ferry]

solid reasoning to go for it

[dusky jacinth]

I have a feeling this doesn’t crack

[hoary nebula]

what has roots as nobody sees, is taller than trees, up up up it goes and yet never grows.

[sharp shuttle]

Lineage?

[hoary nebula]

a mountain

[sharp shuttle]

what

[eternal mango]

Who has riddles that don't make sense

YannickH

[sharp shuttle]

Roots? Thats extremely deceiving

[dusky jacinth]

It do tho

[sharp shuttle]

If it wanted to be clever, say Routes

[eternal mango]

And.. define grow

[sharp shuttle]

Cave systems are not roots

[dusky jacinth]

And mountains do frost

Grow**

And shrink

[eternal mango]

By tectonic movements, they grow

[dusky jacinth]

Erosion cases them to get smaller

[dusky jacinth]

Exactly

[eternal mango]

..or yes, can shrink

[dusky jacinth]

OH MY GOD IT CRACKED

[eternal mango]

lol

[dusky jacinth]

wow

I was at it for a minute

[sharp shuttle]

summer2021

[hoary nebula]

A box without hinges, key or lid yet golden treasure inside is hid

[dusky jacinth]

Close

[sharp shuttle]

bladder

[eternal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/seven-brad-pitt-box-whats-in-the-box-gif-3386206

[dusky jacinth]

Uhhh

Bee keepers hive

[hoary nebula]

an egg

[eternal mango]

An egg is not a box

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah it’s the exact opposite actually

[eternal mango]

Look, this is making my jokes look good

Give us a good one

[sharp shuttle]

you are reading some alternative south east asian riddles right now

[dusky jacinth]

Ong

[hoary nebula]

This thing all things devours: Birds, beasts, trees, flowers. Gnaws iron, bites steel. grinds hard stones to meal, slays kings, ruins town and beats high mountain down.

[sharp shuttle]

strip mining

im technically correct

[eternal mango]

urgh

[hoary nebula]

Time

[sharp shuttle]

Okay but argue against what i just said

[eternal mango]

I am a Fox, what am I

[dusky jacinth]

Fracking

[eternal mango]

NO A FOX!

Pwned

[dusky jacinth]

Oh sorry

[eternal mango]

🤣

No, that was perfect timing, thank you

[dusky jacinth]

💀

[sharp shuttle]

this is a strip miner

[eternal mango]

BAGGER 288 288

[dusky jacinth]

Isn’t she a beaut

[sharp shuttle]

a marvel in human ingenuity

[eternal mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEvfD4C6ow

[dusky jacinth]

This and lithium mines just get me going man

[sharp shuttle]

holy shit i forgot this existed

core memories reconnected

[eternal mango]

It's sooooo good 😄

Showed my daughter all the Joe Cartoon animations last week

She said they were poorly animated

Freakin heathen

That's HISTORY she's slagging off

[sharp shuttle]

I dont think kids these days could even sit through tom and jerry and that was adhd mental coke for children of the 60's

[eternal mango]

Different times

[silver forge]

yes, cocaine was actually still in the coca cola

[sharp shuttle]

shit thats true

[eternal mango]

Not up that late in the 90s surely

Yeah, ok they still used coca leaf extract

Wow hang on

No way

[sharp shuttle]

"Doctors" used to be advertising their favorite cigarettes, its wild

Today gambling is the cig commercials of the past imo

[eternal mango]

Heh, styropyro had a few fun videos on old books that detailed health products

Scary stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ddpV8R6pFo

[iron comet]

🦍

[eternal mango]

Formaldehyde.. Chloroform.. Camphor..

It'll cure the cold

..by killing the patient

[iron comet]

do we want to kill the patient

[silver forge]

why not

[eternal mango]

Anyway, interesting videos to see what used to pass as a cure or remedy

..less than 100 years ago

[sharp shuttle]

nurses are trained to cure the symptoms not overlying illnesses/disease in the US. Its been like this since private equity got their hands in medical equipment, insurance, billing. I really need to move

[eternal mango]

I fear the UK is going down the same path

[empty dagger]

Who can I message about TrustPilot review?
I've written a review on TrustPilot about Hack The Box and I'm interested in how do I get the chance to win a $100 swag card?
EDIT: I apologize If I'm in the wrong part of Discord

[sharp shuttle]

damn dont say that

[eternal mango]

It's getting harder and harder to get treatment in good time

[sharp shuttle]

am i going to have to take a second language in latin and teach myself a medical degree?

rhetorical, I already am

[gentle hatch]

Hey guys recently I've signed up on HTB, my email is verified, discord is verified but it's saying "we need to perform compliance verification on your account" they mentioned the support email I contacted, representative asked for documents, i submitted but he didn't replied back till yet can anyone help me with this?
I am unable to use my HTB account

[sharp shuttle]

I just dont trust these people anymore

[eternal mango]

Please be patient

It is currently the weekend, so suppotr may not be as available as usual over the weekdays

[iron comet]

all the more reason to stay healthy

[sharp shuttle]

Easy for g0b in the UK. Dark souls in the US

Our food is poison

[eternal mango]

Uhhh wasn't aware of this giveaway for TrustPilot reviews honestly

But if it's something going on, and you submitted a review, it'll be handled I'm sure

[iron comet]

in practice, how hard is it for you to move abroad?

[sharp shuttle]

Im moving to china within 2 years. Learning mandarin.

[iron comet]

hong kong is a perfect place for me

[eternal mango]

Not always so easy unfortunately

..but I'm not doing too bad right now tbh

[sharp shuttle]

Im in the drone industry, China is kinda the only real choice I have if I want a career

[empty dagger]

thank you for the reply but how does HTB know which one of the reviews is mine?
For context, I've got the mail "thanks for your review!" after reviewing a module after completion and in the mail it said "You are now part of our Wall of Glory! Congrats .." and later in the mail it said "Help other individuals to find Hack The Box by leaving a review on our TrustPilot or Capterra profile. Post your opinion and get the chance to win a $100 swag card!"

[iron comet]

sensofusion does that sort of work in canada and finland, if you’re interested

not exactly drones

[eternal mango]

Honestly, I don't have an answer for you. Likely there is an analytics code or something which correlates your review with your account or something I guess?

Or by email address?

I'm not involved in that kinda thing

[iron comet]

but down that path

[gentle hatch]

Thanks for the reply, but the last reply from the support i received was last Monday....

[sharp shuttle]

Finland maybe, I want to spend some time away from FVEY countries and get cultured on the other side

[vivid flower]

No laowai was ever treated well over there hope you know

[sharp shuttle]

Im aware

That will be my fate no matter where I choose to go

[eternal mango]

All I can say is to follow up on the support ticket and request an update. I have no visibility of the case I'm afraid.

[vivid flower]

You aren't just shit posting are you?

[sharp shuttle]

Im not no

[vivid flower]

Do not do that

[iron comet]

I cant give an objective opinion on finland from the perspective of someone who has just moved to here, i.e, because i have a citizenship, but i’ve heard it does get pretty expensive

[sharp shuttle]

My market research informs me where I must go to avoid more than just war

[iron comet]

cyber job market is pretty fire though

[vivid flower]

I used to think like that when I went overseas

[sharp shuttle]

Feel free to give me insight but humans are stubborn and i must experience it myself

[vivid flower]

But guess what a lot of people who make more money than me are way more miserable than I am

It all stems from believing that you're not strong enough

[sharp shuttle]

I cant sustain in the US drone industry unless they pass regulation on requirements for critical infra

[vivid flower]

Then gain another skill grow bigger

[sharp shuttle]

What?

[vivid flower]

Broaden your scope

[sharp shuttle]

You arent serious right?

[vivid flower]

I'm completely sure.What do you think I do all day

[sharp shuttle]

Tyc ive worked the entire cybersecurity spectrum, there are no jobs, dont cope with me

Im cocky enough to say im extremely skilled in this sector

its insulting to have you say that to me

"just get skills bro"

[vivid flower]

O k great if you're extremely skilled then let's make a spectreops competitor

[hoary nebula]

tyc tyc boom

[sharp shuttle]

tyc its crazy how intelligent while also so extremely naive you can be

[vivid flower]

Power doesn't come from relying on people that hate you

It comes from pulling their pants down and convincing people to go with you instead

[dusky jacinth]

Idk Brath maybe you take up leadership?

since were spit ballin here

[sharp shuttle]

Please inform me on how I should secure funding for a specter ops competitor

hmmm.. oh there are already 9000 enterprise offerings? surely I will make a better product

[lime trout]

imo, the only really way is to do a niche no one else is covering

and build something targeted at that

[sharp shuttle]

Thats right emma, im in drones, i do OK in the US but china has all the components and cheap

[vivid flower]

You're already better

[sharp shuttle]

I could rapid prototype 9000x faster

[lime trout]

but all the profitable niches are probs gone lmao

[dusky jacinth]

Fuck profit

Fuck business

Fuck consumerism

[sharp shuttle]

Amen

[exotic pendant]

😄

[dusky jacinth]

Make something case it makes you better

Cause it makes us better

Tired of shit getting invented to meet a profit margin

[lime trout]

you cant survive without profit

but there is a diference between healthy margins and exploitation

[dusky jacinth]

I’d rather starve

[sharp shuttle]

I feel like i have to keep telling you guys, but drone components tariffs are 180%, still. Down from 260%

im getting fucked

[vivid flower]

The future in the cybersecurity field is being unapologetically competent and shunning outsourcing

[sharp shuttle]

sounds like black hat

[exotic pendant]

idk what you guys are talking about but pizza obtaineed

[dusky jacinth]

The line is getting more blurry by the day

[vivid flower]

You rise and fall with the west. Nobody is going to give you a sympathy position

[dusky jacinth]

Kindness is now weakness etc etc

Not realy

But you get my point

[vivid flower]

The sooner you understand this , the sooner you can build a rock solid life

[sharp shuttle]

??? the entire s&p 500 is corporate daycare for tax platters exploiting diversity bro, what are you saying?

[lime trout]

When companies are only measured based on QoQ Profits, and the goal is to lower costs no matter what, outsourcing will always win

Doing things locally is more expensive then most consumers want to pay, and makes no sense. Its also just not possible in alot of cases

The incentives and objectives at the core need to change

[sharp shuttle]

tyc, do you understand opportunity cost? its never been riskier to "chase your dreams"

[vivid flower]

I'm saying I know people who participated in that that want to blow their brains out. The real victory is rejecting spiritual masochism and not lowering your standards and encouraging everyone else to do the same

[sharp shuttle]

merit is not a core pillar to business decisions

[lime trout]

when lowering your standards is the difference between having food on the table or not you chang your stance quickly.

[vivid flower]

Its a greater struggle between spiritual man and economic man

[lime trout]

its great and easy to be strong and talk a big talk

but actions are hard

[vivid flower]

Im still here

[sharp shuttle]

yeah man thats all platitudes

[vivid flower]

No its the way i live every day

[sharp shuttle]

theory vs practice

[lime trout]

There is a difference though

You can be a way everyday, but real adversity is what tests your beliefs

[vivid flower]

Test me then

You have to allow yourself to be in the winning position for once

[molten bobcat]

Strength comes from kindness and the ability to perservere

[sharp shuttle]

My "passive income" is already establishing niche courses and convention workshops man, in already tapped out on the opportunity costs required to develop my offerings, i have no idea what more i can do but live in china until the tariffs are removed

[vivid flower]

I agree

[lime trout]

its also just a lot of luck and right place right time

[vivid flower]

At least go to vietnam

[lime trout]

You can be doing everything right, but it just not be the right time

[vivid flower]

You're talking to somebody who's been all over the place

[sharp shuttle]

Why would I do that when I can live in shenzhen and walk to the towers for components?...

[lime trout]

is there even that much money in drones these days?

it feels like its been a race to the bottom

[vivid flower]

If you wanna do that , I suggest living in hong kong and commuting

[iron comet]

drone warfare isnt going away tbf

[sharp shuttle]

its not "normal" yet, drones/robotics are the future

[dusky jacinth]

I’m not allowed to go to China

[lime trout]

Yeah but thats mass-manufacturing cheap stuff

[dusky jacinth]

Cause if the govt and what not

[vivid flower]

Peng chau is really nice

[dusky jacinth]

I really wanna go

[lime trout]

i'd personally never wanna go tbh

[dusky jacinth]

But I’d never be allowed to go home

Just once I wanna see it

[sharp shuttle]

Its temporary to allow me to perfect builds of several prototypes I have, you guys are treating it like id be there for 20 years

One year max

[lime trout]

would getting a VISA to do that be hard?

[sharp shuttle]

Im looking into it

[dusky jacinth]

I mean i think it’s cool

I’m the kind of person who wants to travel and learn from everything and everyone

[iron comet]

the language barrier might be the biggest obstacle

[dusky jacinth]

Something like that is exactly what I’d do

[iron comet]

mandarin is pretty neat though

[sharp shuttle]

In china i can get pcb's made, carbonfiber/3d prints, and components directly for nothing. The cost of the tickets is what id lose in tariffs for one iteration

[dusky jacinth]

Especially if I was trying to build a business? I mean who better to learn how to produce en masse than from Chinese corps

[sharp shuttle]

Its a fucking scam to develop drones in the US

we have 0 domestic production

[vivid flower]

And then your designs all get stolen.Because you aren't chinese

[lime trout]

just get it made in america smh /s

[dusky jacinth]

It’s a scam to develop anything in the US lol

[sharp shuttle]

I dont care

[vivid flower]

Any project you develop the people around.You are just going to steal it

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah thats fine

Its research

[vivid flower]

If you're going to be that submissive then why don't you just stay in america

[sharp shuttle]

what did i say that you did not understand

[vivid flower]

Will creates a way

[lime trout]

where else would you get PCB's made man

Vietnam?

[sharp shuttle]

Its financially fucking ruination if i try in america

[vivid flower]

You could do it , you just don't wanna think about it

Because it's harder

[lime trout]

you do realize just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should

[worthy cargo]

Making BBQ chicken today with spiced potatos

😄

[sharp shuttle]

I would rather walk to the shenzhen towers or commute man, i dont wanna ship shit to myself in ladyboy country

[worthy cargo]

Nom nom

[lime trout]

Brath, goto Vancouver, BC instead

no tariffs

[sharp shuttle]

If thats true i would entertain it

You guys dont understand how serious I am about this

its not a joke to me

[dusky jacinth]

You know what else isn’t a joke?

[vivid flower]

How about specializing in something that doesn't make you dependent on the chinese

[sharp shuttle]

How fucked we all are?

[dusky jacinth]

How smoking kills

It’s why you should switch to FUM

[sharp shuttle]

Harsh words

[alpine pumice]

have you considered starting your own american drone company? sounds like there's no competition

[sharp shuttle]

Imagine telling someone to abandon their passion after all your rhetoric on conviction

[vivid flower]

Like i said we got skills plural

Grow

[sharp shuttle]

Thats what I am doing.

[iron comet]

least obvious ragebait atp 😭