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this is as good as it can get

This reminda me of moxxie from borderlands
your feet are so distant from your hand
I use ippsec's
you might actually be a viking
I was working on a kali bootstrapper for fresh or snapshotted VMs
What inane garbage is this hahahhahaha protein beer get the fuckout
BROTHEIN!!!!!!
What is the taste od this man is it actually beer
And how do they include the protein what the hell is ir
Science
Massive progress today
in what tho
I don wanna say will be way cooler when i finish it
Rust
like...whut...uhhh???
React is amazing though i like it alot
i think it could be better
React to this
In what sense
well first is its performance its slower than its other js lib/frameworks
and 2nd this is they keep yapping about pure function components but once you try to do something irl like reactive then you have introduce state
😩
also react is a library and not a framework 
I dislike using JSX
I havent done webdev in ages, but it feels like the idea behind ssr is not connecting well to the natural state of react
They need to communicate this better
But boy am i glad im not in webdev anymore
what are you in now
As in money? Job?
ye
Nothing, quit my fulltime a year ago. Sometimes i do startups or part time jobs if i need thr cash. Everything else is just cybsersec and learning stuff around it
Entry SOC analyst posting but requires 5 years of cybersecurity experience 🥲
sounds like a peaceful life
what was your position back in the fulltime thing
R&D engi
5 years of playing htb it seems 
web?
Me? I Was a stripper
Mid-Sr pos
shit thats so cool
what can i say htb is a diverse community
back to windows
Our team handled authorization and authentication for hpe's customer support platform

r&d teams have always fascinated me
cause i see them as literal scientists coming up with stuff that didng exist before
All printers suck
Its the worst tech in existence
fax
What job are you angling for golam
well as of now i am a student as for the next 4 years will most likely be
currently working as a web dev in a startup
whats crazy is that they actually pay in money and not experience
and my end goal is to become a advanced frontend dev and make really heavry websites so ai cant replace me like these
https://www.awwwards.com/
some of these websites actually have a loading screen and can take up to a minute to load
but they are the only ones making good money in frontend
backend is cool and all but i dont want to accidentally blow up something
This is where we differ
I could never do frontend i would lose my shi
Its too hard for me LOL
If AI gets into my job, I will have to start doing ABS again and choreography 
thats the idea i have rarely found people who like frontend so if everyone hates doing it if i could do it they might pay me
back to old job 😩 
Also it's a lot easier to impress clients with front end, they won't understand wth is that swagger docs you made few days ago 
exactly lmao
imagine changing a buttons color and make the api load from 2500 to 25 mili seconds
changing the button color has more impact
and i am like every other engineer/developer i dont like doing shit but i like money doing shit is just the side effect
Fr even if you made that add to cart button work only with local storage they would be impressed
Slimmshadyyyy
hyy i setup discord HTB update bot i did its setup , but and verify too , but no update when i solved machine 
So in essence you are a designer and frontend dev golam
This is good, but make sure to reign with your own designs
thats what i hope for
but if it fails i can just go make shitty crud apps or cybersec
backups are always good
3-2-1 rule
Doujin artist if all that fails 💀
3 slaps, 2 kicks, 1 person (my boss). 
Worst case everyone can work with me on my lizard farm (once i start it)
Hi guys, bit of a novice question but where exactly can I view my profile on htb? (to share)
academy
lizard farm doesnt sound so bad
afaik you cant share ur academy profile
however for cv you can geenrate a invoice type thing
Joey...shut up...just shut up...dont make a joke here
ahh wthelly
where can I do that?
Execute joke 69.
thanks bro
Something we would not get 😭
If you know, you know.
Guys, btw, just to clarify, I am not a spy for any federal agency. I just wanted to clear that up alright? Just in case anyone was thinking that.

why would a fedral agency spy be in htb gen chat
How hard is it to move a VM from one PC to another
Just got a new PC
Entry level desktop
Exactly!
Now how do I hack?
Get Started with the HTB Beginners Bible: https://www.hackthebox.com/blog/learn-to-hack-beginners-bible
@boreal pike

thank me later
Does it count as osint as a public room
Thanks Golam!
welcome
I saw the circular which asked every agent to send this to chat
Giggity! 
Nah joey everyone knows you work for them
Fake! We never would have that in our offi- I mean! Yeah totally bro. 
Hence the osint challenges
Lmfao.
@boreal pike we got him
tell to the capti...i mean tell to the boss
It works
Fortunately I'm debtless
Yes sir- I mean husband! 
Because you have Speech on 40, you need 80
Fun thing> Im dating a police women
THE TIMING!
LMAO!

Im a fed
I am police women. 
SHHHHHHH
Uh oh i do no crime
be on the lookout for italian men and women it might as well be agent joey in disguise
You can find him with his fancy hair
no like joey is actually italian

But it stopped growing after like 8in
propaganda
No he isn't! He's Asian!

I need to take care of them or something

"Where do you think New York Pizza comes from? Duuuuh."
you need a haircare routine
Yeah too much work lmao
But I want long hairs tho
argain oil, conditioner of argan and hairmask
thats the price
I'm gonna maybe apply oil once a month
may your future be as bright and shiny
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Naaawh, fu- I mean thank you Golam! ❤️
not reacting until i watch the whole vid
After riding bike obv
take care of your hair!!!!!!!!!!
all i can see is hair
where is your office
and pliz tell me is your head hair and hot the above one
I was in restroom
then whose hair is that 😩
Joey's.
butt hair
What
Can't understand lmao
...

joeys butt hair ☠️
I dont shave
He who cleans the entrance expects a visitor
ok guys lets move on i dont want to hear anymore hygene tips 😩
lizards are very clean tho
I wanna send a GIF, but it's too risky. 
Golam licks himself clean
Take a shower!

im giga stuck rn on a privesc
We're kinda busy right now.
feelsbadman

My hair is more long now. like it falls over my shoulders
Y'all got hair?
I'm 30% there
Lemme check if i got any
Shaved, yeah.
❤️
pretty sure linpeas is jebaiting me down a unintended privesc
Nawwwh! Thank you! ❤️
every hack is unintended
orz
is it also uninteded when i smash my monitor
take care of your hair
@compact wave If that thing with the fuzz doesn't work out, how about you and I get together and-
Nah
Ahem.
so much shampoo usage in gen chat today 

6 more months
I'll reach you
i try not to use too much shampoo
This is why I went bald, I used too damn much shampoo!
so you mean you are a soap guy
too much headspins on the breakdance mat
I shampoo 1 a week. all other days is with conditioner and hair masks
im hungry and stuck on this privesc
Conditioner same category lol
Doesn't that makes it soft

unhungry yourself
Which machine @graceful pendant
yessir
1 razor cut every day and a lot of water (and shampoo every other day.)
Sand paper of scalp
isnt shaving everyday a pain
Lmao, hell yeah.
outbound
Yep twice a week or be like me and do twice a month
Meh, it just replaces the brushes. I have a shaving device so it's just a matter of doing that once a day.
10 minutes max.
I trim every 2 days
I forgot what it was about
You can dm for nudge if u want and remind me what it is
I did it before so i can help
whats the device look like
But after 10m, driving rn
thanks g
WRONG ONE!
why do you have an image of that
looks like a alient ship that makes holes in earths crust to steal minerals
Mind ya own business!
Why do we wipe
It's just called a shaver. 
I don't wipe, too expensive.

just use water man
lads i need help, i m going for uni of central lancashire and i dont know if i want to choose BSc in Cyber security or BSc in Software Engineering, I have plans to finish masters in cyber security from there too, some people told me to finish Bsc in software engineering and then go for masters in cyber as in cyber security i need to know how softwares work. Plz give me info on what should i do
Sorry but we're busy making poopoo jokes.

oh ok thx

stay safe too bro❤️
❤️
I wasn't, I was sitting at that place
I accidentally reached lmao
Had few ciggies
Like this
@olive void i just bought a mcdouble with a 10 dollar bill made for motion pictures and the stupid cashier didn't even notice
how far are you in TOP
TOP?
odin project
Im not doing odin project i said I hated it I'm doing Dave's course
that sounds cool
I work in project and procurement
Basically buying shits
I finished HTML and then quit because I hated odin; it was just too simple
wait fr?
or too basic I wanted a little more
yeah I ended up makign this with dave instead hold up ill show you
thats crazy cause most people usually find it difficult
yes but thats like the first ever lesson lol
you atleast needed to finish foundations
you got it golam don't you worry about a thing Hallicon got you all covered, i never break a promise
in the next course u build this as a final proj
only ui tho no backend
i wanted to see if cpts is actually more or less difficult compared to top
I'm gonna make something beautiful 😄
you dont need to finish top tho you can just make a fullstack app and call it a day
how long did cpts take you
a year and a half
yes
i have 2 modules left
currently on react
after that is sql and nodejs
i can finish sql fast but react and node will take long time
funny how i learned most of sql while doing injections and boxes
ah it'll be fast dont worry
and how would i use it to make money
go away 😭

sure
alright imm a get back to work 
technically speaking both css and html engines are also written in c++
Stop coping and cry harder
but you dont need c++ to use html or css
or need any kind of idea that it exists
like you are using discord have 0 idea about module bundle optimization
Just wait for c plus pro
I’m going to kill whoever made springboot
cause + is the cross
exactly, xss is pronouced CROSS site scripting. XSRF is CROSS site req forgery. Therefore the company XBOW is pronouced CROSS bow
thats because xss xsrf and xbow is holy too

and thats why xss and xsrf brings great fortune to bug hunters
usually in forms of money

a tithing to the bug bounty gods
What thing do you hate about it the most?
he hates that they didn't call it winterboot
Tbf I hate Java but I have to learn that framework if I ever want to do code review related to it
But yeah if I were to write something I would pick something else
Nah it's more that a lot of shit is documented poorly
If you're okay with Node then check out Nest.js framework, it has neat docs imo
😂
Nestjs is the mf goat
I like how it's also batteries-included too
Hey ya'll new here. A friend tried joining the server off of my HTB tag and they seemed to be removed fairly quickly. What's the best Text channel or method of reaching out to a mod for this discord?
What is their discord ID?
one sec
-# I didn't like them so I kicked them out
ooof
probably giselle bot saying that
I'm joking 💀
Hehe what's that bot for
to keep skids away
ive some € on my htb account, if I pay the htb vip+ sub it will be automatically applied right??
okay, thx tejas
There name is " aeala "
okay one moment
you just like cats be real
@scenic maple
hello
whats his id
Tell me something that is nice in your country that I can get as a souvenir
for men or women
I also noticed that every high-ranked htb player has a cat pic
for me
Maybe I should join you guys
Hey, not sure if this is the best place but wanted to check if the annual gold subscription includes the AI red teamer job role path? The site says it unlocks tier 3 modules but not sure if AI red teamer is tier 3 ?
Would anime girl cat pic give me that power?
Sure, Catify yourself
idk whats ur taste is but imo you can get miniture sculptures or art
Like this?
185447502655258626
funfact anime people are based on cats not humans
not all but many https://www.reddit.com/r/MoeMorphism/comments/1k8bsun/all_anime_characters_are_just_humanized_cats/
https://academy.hackthebox.com/path/preview/ai-red-teamer, check the modules from the list
i will take a look
Thanks a lot, I appreciate your help!
I'm happy to learn this lol
doesnt seem like anything happened what was the issue?
can you ask him to join again
also no messages from him too
I did and don’t see tier info. All I see is easy, medium or hard. Are hard modules tier 3?
Sure thing
some other stuff
I can see tiers when logged in! Nvm! Thanks!
I once went to museum and spent most of my time evading guards to take pics of naked statues 💀
they are nice ... but nah
And dinasaur bomes
as i said it depends on taste
i usually dont buy stuff i cant eat or use
true, it is a bad question
hi
Does my friend have to verify their account with HTB in order to stay in the server?
no but he cant read the channels
ahh okay
hello can anyone help me with the connection issue between kali linux VM and android emulator both hosted in windows
when I ping emulator's ip from the kali it outputs:
From 192.168.1.79 icmp_seq=1 Redirect Network(New nexthop: 192.168.1.254)
From 192.168.1.79 icmp_seq=2 Redirect Network(New nexthop: 192.168.1.254)
WINDOWS_IP=192.168.1.79
LINUX_IP= 192.168.1.82 (BRIDGED CONNECTION)
ANDROID_DEVICE_IP=10.0.2.16
Looks to me that the android emulator is NAT-ed, idk if it's possible to make it operate in bridge mode
Why dont u keep them all in "NAT network" so they all get same range
Helloo
@maiden anvil get pinged sucka
It's friday, so I cant complain!
In 15 minutes
Can't relate 
quick question, is it possible to do the Artificial box on the pwnbox or not, would ask specifically why but dont want to spoiler anything for anyone
Some people did it on pwnbox yes
how I start the android device in nat network
the sausage rolls were a success 🔥
I think by default it starts in nat network, you have to tell us more about your setup for example are you using Android Studio's emulator or something else
But as Shadow said, what you want is to put all the 3 devices on the same network
Hello brother
See if this page helps you
https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator-networking
What is his exact issue tho?
The easiest way i can think of is to make them all bridged network, so they all can be in same network
Or make them in NAT network (not NAT) to have all VM in same range
Wha
No ping falcon
a
b
😄
sorry, hi ahah
greetings
🙂
hello guys
do yall like me mini sausage rolls
hello
are there any reliable sources i can learn ethical hacking from?
Get Started with the HTB Beginners Bible: https://www.hackthebox.com/blog/learn-to-hack-beginners-bible
honestly? they look like they're stuffed with poo, lmao
other than that, looks great
htb academy/thm etc etc
thanks
ok i kinda see it now 😭
it bet it's mad tasty, though
i tried stuff in google but they aint that well
yea they are
I feel like that's usually the case with food that shares appearance similarities with excrement
do you have a recipe lying around, perchance?
I'd like to make that one day
i doooo
1s
This is da recipe
those look yum
Many thanks! Greatly appreciated 🦦
something sweet like apples/apricot bits go well in the rolls
noted to the best of my skills using Paint
lol
I'm having problems with chatgpt. I have instant gpt 5, but even if I write hello, it takes 4 hours and gives answers that have nothing to do with it. How can I fix it? I have the plus.
do u mean in the rolls or in the meat-mix?
meat mix
thank you
I like Claude a lot. Haven't tried their paid tier, though
Chatgpt is so slow and sometimes unusable; haven't had this with Claude yet
chatgpt is being worked as slave, poor guy
#horriblehistories
horrible histories stupid deaths theme song horrible histories stupid deaths season 1 theme song horrible histories stupid deaths series 1 theme song horrible histories stupid deaths s1 theme song horrible histories stupid deaths intro song series 1 horrible histories stupid deaths intro song season 1 horrible histories stu...
holy throwback
Anybody know how to get volatility working in any capacity in 2025? The current documentation has proved to be null and void to be working for me.
I keep getting the following error. Even if I follow the entire documentation from volatility. Or I go to writeups explaining how to setup symbols. Or if I change OS's or machines (Windows, Ubuntu, Kali, Remnux) it does not matter
For the life of me, I just cannot get volatility working. I don't remember this tool having so many issues. So I wonder if I'm just doing something wrong. I spent like 6 hours last night trying to get it fixed and setup
Happy friday chat. Im going to eat a burrito about it
Lmao I compromised an entire business critical product at my job and can be anyone and do anything on it.
Red teaming W.
👋
Can you be someone's dad, who left them? Lol
....

Loool
Im so happy chat 
All this professional and academic success, and yet still no gf wcyd.
Can I post Expressway writeUp on medium after the release of new season 9 machine?
No
wait until it's retired
idk, a few months probably
Anyone got a good password manager?
I use rockyou.txt, but I feel like it's not that secure.
so wht are u actually looking for mate
please do not use the passwords you find in there
u dont have the right to tell me tht im not supposed to use password123 on all my acc's
reverse phycology

Too late
would take 2million years to crack
It's fine, I use MFA 
ye sure
Why would you ever use passwords in rockyou.txt as your personal passwords
..
he obv is joking
I hope
I am,I am
You never know
Exactly this, WHY? I'm curious AF.
💯
I'm just trolling
*Inhales in dad mode*
Hello Just Trolling
new role 🫣
nice
it existed always
What gonn happen if I post next week? ban?
@warped plank anything about CPTS?
ah but was the role ranked above mod then?
so far it's only been 15 business days
seems like it's been 15 business months since i last asked
I think, idk, was there any holidays recently?
not that ik of
?
ye most prob and htb will take action to take tht writeup down
abide to the rules when using a service
i wanna try this one out
Burrito was good
🙂
cap
Id you add the number 1 to every rockyou.txt entry then youll always have your passwords and youll never get hacked
oneruletorulethemall
what kind of trouble are we going to cause today?
Unless they figure out that you did that then your entropy goes to 0
we have a lot of options
please dont let that happen or it will experience heat death
hello sir
possibliy 11
guys what is your tought on constella intelligemce?
psyop
Password entropy is a way of measuring how easy your pass is to crack
psyop what is?
GRIFFFITTHHHH!!!!
Randomly generated gang rise up
psychological operation
is constella intelligence a good cybsec?
Md5 hash collisions are wild
it is hypothesized the universe will experience heat death when it runs out of entropy 
Can google and find out hold on
I like to advocate using a matrix of random characters that only you know and then making combinations based on it, or using song lyrics from languages other than english that you have memorized
runs out of entropy
Mhm
my password in hashcat rn
a square matrix
oh fk he hit us with waz emoji
A matrix being like an array of combinations for non math nerds
Seems good

find A inverse

One method my ex used was to use the last part of a webpage url as part of the password
i got hired as a Data engineer as univeristy practice
multiply it with the nos corresponding to ur name
wil i learn good things?
u got a very strong password
Seems like a bad idea to me because if it changes then you're boned
too soon junior
my life ended here
NO'S
numbers
lol
work in the morning, uni in the evening, gym-study-projects at night, yeah, RIP
thats my favorite gif lately
nah , its normal
🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
i think these days most of the uni kids work like tht
@zealous charm I will brb I gotta make some coffee but we can have some fun in here for a little bit
I gotta go work on reporting 

fun
mhm
yeah but im going to hard work these practice
to stay there and try to get better
I use AI for my reports

Ive heard some people use steganography to embed crypto wallets in videos and then upload them to google drive or vimeo
Valid as long as it's your company's internal llm
Any platform that wont apply compression to your video and allows you to download it back losslessly can be used for hosting a veracrypt container or similar
Back to genral
Back to business u mean lol
Alright Imma peace out to study guys
It's been fun
have a good one
Good luck 🍀
hello, im unable to access the target machines on the CJCA exam, the targets dont respond to ping.
i tried with openvpn and the pwnbox and reset the machines as well.
its very unstable, sometimes i do get a ping back
Contact support
i did
please be patient

how do you earn cubes ???/
@warped plank if u write your report like this
Then I'll review it asap
Money, seasonal rewards
moneys
real
You can also get seasonal rewards
that reminds me I'm meant to be applying to places for work experience
Ok 
Go do that, why are u on discord
Good evening
Good evening
This is how i do my machines if anyone cares
So you planking for hours on end on insane machines? 
For sure you're an Arch user 🔥
Only if it takes you hours 
What insane?
I do very easy machines only
Good Night
Good night
Too early
Average Rope and Rope2 enjoyers
For $5
$5 is $5
I ragequitted Buff 🙁
The privesc angle it was wanting me to use was shoddy and inconsistent. Even looking at writeups, others say the same
for 5 looks decent

robbed
hi , what do you mean by seasonal machines ?? can you please elaborate , i want to earn cubes.
is it on htb academy ?
ohh, but can you earn cubes from seasonal ? to use in htb academy ?
thanks!
thank you on the info 👍 @rustic carbon
hola 👋
Sorry for being late but here's more info on season 9 specifically
https://www.hackthebox.com/blog/HTB-Season-9-GACHA
good evening madame
Hello gorgeous people
hihiii
How is it going
had a question, roughly how many boxes/labs do you need to pawn/pass to get hacker rank?
Hi
I think not many
oh so it's not a very high up rank
Maybe less
gotcha, thx
It depends on the difficulty
do sherlocks count? ;D
No
will holmes give you points for rank?
Only active machines and challanges

Yeah right
so this holmes ctf also will give no points
F
wow
Yep...

I was disappointed too

did htb give any reasoning for this?
unfortunate; I am more interested in blue atm
but I need hacker rank for gifs 
noooo whats the purpose of life without gifs 
I don't think are hard in my opinion
Madam, making me feel posh 🤣
I know how you feel. It’s weird ain’t it not being able to use gifs.
some active machines aren't that hard I think you could get there
yes me lady 
yeah no I'm not a beginner, just new to htb
will also do red team boxes 👍
blue team ?
oh here I thought I met an blue teamer 
well I'm currently interested in it 🙂
I wouldnt consider myself either red nor blue
I just do this for fun anyway
same but I just cant seem to find any place dedicated to it. All ppl I know are only interested in the red side
Go do all of the season 8 machines
If I remember correctly htb recently acquired a company focussed on blue team, didnt it?
which active machines or challenges are the easiest rn?
you mean for AD? I am not super interested in it; only if you tell me its actually fun and I am missing out
I used to say that 4months ago
oh yeah
Then i tasted AD

🔥
ok yeah; maybe I am missing out then
Yep it's fun
i absolutely hate AD
yeah but I only have an year of vip so not sure if it'll be implemented that soom
Actually after doing all of the available linux machine it just feels soo nice to go AD ones
I could see that
the expressway is easy
can I dm?
that was the first box for me lol
yeah sure
the one i got most stuck on was "fluffy"
Oh codetwo must be easiest
fluffy fucked me up
It got user flag in 3m
both times i had it but still needed sanity checks
soulmate[.]htb ... the website does not load is that normal?
already did that
Reset
ok
i guess i need to buy VIP to do active machines?
Sometimes restarting the browser works for me
No
i am able to scan but when i try to access the web page ... it keeps loading and fails after a couple of mins ...
only retiered
will try
No
nice
Challanges are pretty cool too
Good for you
active challenges give rank points too right?
ye
Yes but 1/10
seems like those are the easiest for ranking up then, i see a lot of them in active
only active gives you not retired
If you gain 100 points only 10 will be applied to the rank up formula
i find the "easy" in challenges is quite funny
With challenges
because sometimes its like
"copy paste this text on this webpage"
and sometimes its like
reverse engineer this binary encryption
Machines won't give you 100% rank up on points there isna formula
I finally figured out why I was struggling with intro labs. They're based off old answers vs what is being shown.
btw every type of challenges are good but except Osint ones any reason behind it ?
OSINT is hard to make challenges around i think
(ActiveSystemOwns + (ActiveUserOwns / 2) + (ActiveChallengeOwns / 10)) / (activeMachines + (activeMachines / 2) + (activeChallenges / 10)) * 100
because OSINT involves clearweb searches and tools like maltego and real data, which obviously cant be included
With this you get the ownership percent
Hacker = > 20%
or is it permanent
You lose your progress on rank when seasson ends
But just from your actual rank to the next
You don't lose your actual rank
oh ok
wait clearweb data is not included ?
clearweb might be the wrong word here,
I meant like, actual real data and not dummy data
clearweb just means non darkweb lol, so totally wrong word xD
so no random images from google maps? this is just for example btw
there are some where you have to search up things on like linkedin and instagram
but mostly its a fake website with simulated content or social networks
there are challenges currently which involves linkedin searching
i dont know if theres active ones
but I have seen one or two
I have completed all except the last one that got released
Also rank progress updates only once a day
Congrats on being 1337 @graceful pendant
bro is 31337 h4xx0r
at a con I attended this year they had an osint ctf that involved two volunteers that we had to search for information on
That sounds cool
halogate syscall sliver shellcode loading 💀
it's been 12 hours and it doesn't work as it should
all beacons...no sessions....i wanna die
classic sliver move
13 hour is the charm
bro 👍 reacted me like a boomer on facebook

Shared the wrong post sorry
xd
dude when does thumbs up is considered like this I always use it.😭
since now 💪
www im verifided
?
Is it downloaddata or DownloadData ?
Your guess is as good as mine
OH MY GOD
wiat what box was that
i kinda remember that password lol
was it the one with the kdbx db?
that was a funky box
i had no issues. weird.
It the problem is case sensitive also change WebClient
when i rank up in hackthebox does the discord rank update automaticlly?
Yes
proxy chains for me
Arch is better
deep down we all use arch btw
Hahah
I use Vista
btw @terse dirge i think this gif is true since when u used to use arch you were buff but now that you use void you are not buff anymore
Vista is goat



