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frail turtle
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I love you this much

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this much

rustic carbon
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I'm dead 💀

devout sail
rustic carbon
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Hello to you too

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So I'm now finishing the learning process and I'll be heading to "setting up"

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I'm using the info security foundations

devout sail
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Ok have fun

frail turtle
rustic carbon
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But hold on this person kinda peaked my interest..

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Do I have to prepare with something before I do this?

frail turtle
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o.O

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I dont know maybe you should wear a helmet

rustic carbon
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:' )

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No bro 💔

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I mean

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Go on jr cybersecurity analyst job role?

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Just finish the foundations?

frail turtle
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I mean you can't go wrong. like listen it doesnt matter what people think

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as long as that little noggin is safe

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nothing else matters

rustic carbon
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I want to do it as efficiently as I can

dusky jacinth
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Just do it right

rustic carbon
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I don't want to have missed spots so it would f me up on the exams

dusky jacinth
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learn it

frail turtle
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The most efficient you can get

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is by learning webdev first

rustic carbon
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But how.. 🥀

dusky jacinth
frail turtle
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and then after learning webdev

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do hacking

vital linden
proud moth
dusky jacinth
devout sail
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Hmm jk4ss you shouldn't bite more than u can chew.
From what I've seen you need to build up proper foundation before pursuing any goal.

frail turtle
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well you need IT knowledge too

dusky jacinth
frail turtle
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that's also important, but not the whole shebang, just things like for example traversing VLANs

devout sail
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From what I've discussed with him, he barely knows to use linux 😢

devout sail
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So yeah pls focus on this first

dusky jacinth
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Get off discord and open up that terminal baby

rustic carbon
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Not like arch style

frail turtle
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oh yeah theres a module for that in HTB the linux basics

rustic carbon
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But say Ubuntu style

proud moth
devout sail
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Hmm I'm saying it for your good, not any bad intentions jk4ss

vital linden
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arch style and ubuntu style?

rustic carbon
proud moth
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just learn debian, kali and linux fundamentals first, not a lot but just learn how to use linux

vital linden
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linux is linux

devout sail
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Using cat is basic stuff no?

rustic carbon
subtle plover
dusky jacinth
rustic carbon
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I know how you mean it

rustic carbon
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I left THM

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And joined you guys instead

vital linden
subtle plover
dusky jacinth
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Okay but GlazeWM and Zebar are pretty nice

proud moth
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linux before anything, then network exploitation, then web, then privesc and finally AD

dusky jacinth
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It'll take eight years to open a file

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but it

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looks nice

subtle plover
devout sail
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Hello pissboy

vital linden
dusky jacinth
devout sail
rustic carbon
subtle plover
devout sail
dusky jacinth
vital linden
subtle plover
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WDE doesnt do tradfic tho

vital linden
subtle plover
dusky jacinth
subtle plover
rustic carbon
devout sail
vital linden
devout sail
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Wait i got a perfect emoji for u

dusky jacinth
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What big Piss doesn't want you to know is that you can just pee yourself

rustic carbon
dusky jacinth
devout sail
frail turtle
subtle plover
vital linden
subtle plover
frail turtle
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I am not confused

vital linden
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maybe you should link whatever the fuck tradfic is

devout sail
dusky jacinth
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What big computer doesn't want you to know is that restarting is the cure

rustic carbon
dusky jacinth
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always

terse dirge
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Are you saying that I'll become a femboy if I eat receipts??! POGGERS

devout sail
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trafdic

rustic carbon
dusky jacinth
vital linden
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okay i give up with whatevr youre saying bingbong

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WDE doesnt have tradfic

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got it

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whatever that means

subtle plover
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Perfecr

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I have fat fingers

frail turtle
devout sail
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Y'all got dylaecix

subtle plover
dusky jacinth
subtle plover
devout sail
rustic carbon
devout sail
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New box just released today

rustic carbon
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Lab?

dusky jacinth
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yes

rustic carbon
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Oh I found it

vital linden
devout sail
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Hehe i was joking
Don't waste your time on that yet

rustic carbon
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But it's medium

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Yeah that's what I was about to say

devout sail
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It's more than medium

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From the Convo in chat

rustic carbon
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I kinda had that instinct 💀

subtle plover
devout sail
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Haha

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It's been 3h and no one got it, must be hard

dusky jacinth
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I'm actually concered for how long this scan is taking

subtle plover
vital linden
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also using the Huntress SIEM too

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so i am going to start ingesting syslogs into their SIEM

dusky jacinth
subtle plover
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Huntress is john hammod god

rustic carbon
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Funny thing when I was in THM I got so burned out I didn't want to even hear about hacking nor see a terminal ever

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Idk what happened to me and I came back again

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Lol

rustic carbon
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No

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Welcome BACK to hell

dusky jacinth
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Nah

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were not like THM

devout sail
frail turtle
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look at thisreally cool box

dusky jacinth
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THM is all nice and cozy and a good time

subtle plover
rustic carbon
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O hell nah

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Well at least htb is more practical

vital linden
devout sail
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Htb makes u cry blood

dusky jacinth
devout sail
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If u utilise it perfectly
You'll have a few grams of blood crystal every week

rustic carbon
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I'll actually LEARN than sit half sleep studying about TCP and shit

dusky jacinth
vital linden
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my company pays for business premium licenses but does not use any of the Entra features besides security defaults, doesnt use intune, doesnt use WDE even tho all of this is included in business premium

rustic carbon
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With hands than just study

dusky jacinth
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and I don't like it

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Doesn't feel real

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but that could just be my opinion

rustic carbon
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Like super dry

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Htb seems more professional

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Like the people when I first got in

dusky jacinth
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OMFG I HAVE BEEN STUCK AT 99.99% DONE FOR 5 MINUTES

subtle plover
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A lot of azure

frail turtle
vital linden
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dont get my started on the infra in the data center

dusky jacinth
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jk

rustic carbon
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Do it

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U won't

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Jk don't

dusky jacinth
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Nah I need to get through this module

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I've been so busy with work

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Hey

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enough of that

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show yourself

subtle plover
dusky jacinth
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No @proud moth I know he misses me already

subtle plover
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@seadris

hoary nebula
hoary nebula
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I saw that

dusky jacinth
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THAAATTS WHY IT WAS TAKING SO LONG

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my internet shit on me and apparently my VM could just not recover from that

gaunt gale
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hi guys I did some HTB Academy reading today. I'm gonna hang with a friend tonight. Tomorrow I'm gonna be doing a lot of work.

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on academy

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took some notes today on the section I just completed and read through the next section

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will reread tomorrow and do the challenges

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and the assignments for it

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then later tomorrow I'll take notes on it

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after I successfully do the hacking needed to get the flags

next egret
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👍

hollow depot
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what are friends?

gaunt gale
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so what are you guys up to?

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I'm about to listen to Vergecast

next egret
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Is it important to understand the TCP/IP model in every little detail?

next egret
dusky jacinth
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Having a good foundational understanding of the model is definitely necessary, but in a way that lets you know what information you are missing so you can find it if need be

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This isn’t a great example cause you should know the 7 layers, but let’s say you know TCP/IP has 7 layers, but you don’t remember layer three. Since you know there are there are seven layers but you can’t remember the third then knowing that the knowledge gap you need to fill in that moment is what is layer three?

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Again bad example, but my brain hurts

slim saffron
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hi guys, if i want to ask a general question, where can i ask?

slim saffron
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so here

carmine pecan
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Yes

slim saffron
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i had a question about, if as a pentester, if you're specialized in a field, like lets say networking or wtv, should you focus everything you got on networking? or do you recommend getting into other areas as well

sharp shuttle
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Go wide first then go extremely narrow/deep.

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Learn everything now, then respec the skill points into the niche.

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@slim saffron

slim saffron
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ah okokkkk, thank you so muchhhh

next egret
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@sharp shuttle

sharp shuttle
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Howdy cowboy

slim saffron
mystic harbor
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Learning everything

sharp shuttle
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He's saying you have to be intelligent enough to contend with the stress of the content and real world application

slim saffron
mystic harbor
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Then later

sharp shuttle
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Learning one thing is going to fuck you

mystic harbor
sharp shuttle
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You will crumble at a pentesting firm

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In my experience pivotting from OSCP (I recomend CPTS now) into that narrow niche is good enough.

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The skills learned getting that entry-level cert is going to bleed into many other categories

sharp shuttle
slim saffron
sharp shuttle
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Hmm, I would rarely say this, but that is a topic you can probably specialize in first.

carmine pecan
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wow

sharp shuttle
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If you plan on being a windows andy and are terrified of linux flavors and apple stuff, going hard on windows is probably always going to be lucrative.

carmine pecan
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What was today box

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I am dead

mystic harbor
carmine pecan
sharp shuttle
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World governments are pretty deep in bed with winblows/microsoft and oracle shit.

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It wont be retired for decades

vital linden
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Azure is really big in corps and government

jolly snow
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brath should try hacknet

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😂

vital linden
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Entra ID is probably the best Cloud identity provider and most commonly used

sharp shuttle
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What is the topic of hacknet?

carmine pecan
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It's a trap

slim saffron
mystic harbor
carmine pecan
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he is wishing you dead

sharp shuttle
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I only do IoT related stuff on Hack The Box, I am avidly against windows, ive served my time

carmine pecan
jolly snow
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hacker wants his site pentested

frail turtle
carmine pecan
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Just try to like... not be a complete zero on Linux and Web

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but you can focus on AD yeah

carmine pecan
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do that

sharp shuttle
slim saffron
carmine pecan
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I Said "probably no bro"

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thoughts on this? lmao

sharp shuttle
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nope

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no way

carmine pecan
sharp shuttle
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CPTS/OSCP is like A+ in 2012

slim saffron
sharp shuttle
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It's the bare minimum to get a interview

mystic harbor
carmine pecan
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Sad market

sharp shuttle
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I will say it until you all die from it, you are only getting jobs through friends here.

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Nepotism arc

mystic harbor
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Now i have to hack a job

dusky jacinth
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Always hacking boxes

sharp shuttle
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That's the spirit

dusky jacinth
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But you NEED to be hacking a job

sharp shuttle
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Your first real life red team engagement is getting a job

dusky jacinth
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A+ is the A+ of 2025

sharp shuttle
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hope that helps

jolly snow
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yo guess waht brath

sharp shuttle
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I ask "What?" to your rhetorical question

dusky jacinth
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Herm

jolly snow
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the creator cant trigger the vuln himself kek

dusky jacinth
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Womp womp

sharp shuttle
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So you are saying hack the box approved a box that was not ready for distribution?

jolly snow
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aaparently

sharp shuttle
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it was bound to happen

jolly snow
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it happened after creator checked and submitted box

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after htb team made final chnages

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they messed something up

next egret
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You must have atleast 100 iq to become a pentester

sharp shuttle
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probably updated a vulnerable version of something in the box

sharp shuttle
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thats also what Ive heard from praetroian employees

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their interview process assumes your IQ

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110 is the baseline

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on top of their top 3 personality preferences (MBTI)

dusky jacinth
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Jk I wouldn’t know I’m not a pen tester

sharp shuttle
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some people might scoff at that, but I think MBTI and IQ are good to know before I hire someone, personally

dusky jacinth
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I haven’t taken the MBTI. I know my enneagram and IQ and that’s about it

sharp shuttle
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ennegram is the same thing

dusky jacinth
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Gotcha

sharp shuttle
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all of it is based on mbti

dusky jacinth
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My fault

next egret
dusky jacinth
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Didn’t feel like googling it

dusky jacinth
sharp shuttle
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ive subcontracted with companies where every operator was absolutely 130+ iq, shit ran smoothly

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its crazy how one dumb ass can ruin a good thing

dusky jacinth
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Yeah imagine ten of em

sharp shuttle
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I've managed teams of low iq "security engineers"

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lets just say my pagerduty went crazy

dusky jacinth
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I try to never page my on call

next egret
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which iq tests are legit

sharp shuttle
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these morons broke everything constantly

dusky jacinth
sharp shuttle
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iq is evidence that someone may be intelligent

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never proof

dusky jacinth
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Just cause you have a 150 doesn’t mean your smart

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Means you might be one hell of a addict though

sharp shuttle
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that's right, it must be evaluated alongside personality and criminality

next egret
torn cedar
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Rip to anyone that is trying to get hired then.

dusky jacinth
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I’d go so far as to say I’m more susceptible (and have been) due to a physical per position towards intelligence

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And ADHD? It wasn’t till I was twenty and found out all this info about myself that I felt like I could actually make a change, but even then overcoming addiction feels impossible

sharp shuttle
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your criminality is the background report, and those vary widely, but if your employer uses lexusnexus or other rogue agencies that compile your different histories, yeeeeesh

your personality is indicated through mbti type tests, and in my opinion are quite useful -> advertising profile

your iq is derived from pattern recognition heuristical testing

and lastly, your demeanor and mental state is determined through screening interviews

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everything after than is just an evaluation of your ability to social engineer and apply skills

dusky jacinth
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That’s last one is huge. My personal recommendation is if you are ever diagnosed with a mental illness. Find a therapist and phycologist and always get second opinions if you can afford it

sharp shuttle
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high iq tends to come with high susceptibility to mental disorder

dusky jacinth
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Unfortunately

carmine pecan
next egret
dusky jacinth
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No

carmine pecan
sharp shuttle
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EQ is not real, it's just an evaluation of your dark triad.

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this is a synonym for EQ

next egret
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if you can see patterns in peoples behaviors, society etc

dusky jacinth
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That’s just pattern recognition

sharp shuttle
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Yeah thats just IQ

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See: Machiavellianism for the peoples behaviors

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When I hire people I look for high M and N, and very low P

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psychopathy is the bad trait in this diagram

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the other two are not always "evil"

dusky jacinth
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I think I unfortunately lean more M and P

sharp shuttle
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Don't admit that xD

dusky jacinth
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Less P but I can see some of it

sharp shuttle
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If you are high P, mask it

dusky jacinth
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Definitely not high

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I can be pretty impulsive sometimes though

next egret
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I remember i did an personality test and got ENJT

dusky jacinth
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Emotional cold? Nah I cry at everything

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And I feel remorse if I kill a bug so

sharp shuttle
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shit

sharp shuttle
next egret
sharp shuttle
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That one is associated with some of the most evil people in history

next egret
sharp shuttle
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ENTJ is the highest in selfishness, basically all of them are diagnosed with APD

patent furnace
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Guys any points I can make to my parents about wanting to do online school instead of public school

sharp shuttle
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you can call it bs all you want, entire marketing and advertising firms are based on things like mbti, and they are extremely good indicators for behavoir, to deny psychology is cope

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you very well might be different, but dont discount it

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its good to try to understand yourself

stark blaze
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Isn’t mbti scientifically inaccurate though

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The personality system that is preferred by researchers is the Big 5

sharp shuttle
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psychology is scientifically inaccurate too, tomato tomato

stark blaze
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Which has a lot of more useful su stats too

next egret
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Wasn't steve jobs ENTJ

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good man

sharp shuttle
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"pseudoscience" thrown out so gracefully

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maddening

stark blaze
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I just wanna know

next egret
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Helped millions and are still helping millions

lusty forum
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IQ has no tell on situations etc, it’s just bs pattern recognition etc

sharp shuttle
stark blaze
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For example, newer personality measures also take into neuroticism

sharp shuttle
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i dont disagree, but what else can you really build onto an already good indication?

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are you talking about OCEAN?

stark blaze
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Yes (big 5)

sharp shuttle
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Right, well we only need two personality tests to determine everything else.

Criminality: Dark Triad
Personality: MBTI

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you can extrapolate the others.

stark blaze
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Also, the thinking vs feeling axis has been updated to agreeableness vs disagreeableness, which I think makes a lot more sense since the opposite of rationality isn’t emotion, but fallacious thinking

sharp shuttle
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JiafeiAbe with all due respect this is psychology 101 shit you are throwing at me

stark blaze
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No need to be rude

terse dirge
sharp shuttle
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I just said with all due respect man, I did not intent to be rude.

next egret
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Brath i think your over exaggerating a lot. Your making a common personality sounding like a psychopath

stark blaze
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Also, another thing I find iffy about using personality tests in hiring is that people often lie on them to seem more desirable to others

sharp shuttle
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Interesting that you would justify with the word "normal"

sharp shuttle
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thats the point.

terse dirge
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Wassup thedanpatrick

dusky jacinth
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I lie just to do it

stark blaze
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If someone gave me a test I would 100% lie and say I’m super extroverted, creative, cooperative, etc even though I’m really just an asshole

dusky jacinth
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I do it for the love of the game

terse dirge
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New season for the finals dropped

sharp shuttle
terse dirge
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Nice

torn cedar
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We should make a psychology chat and or a therapy chat, time to address the people in need

sharp shuttle
lusty forum
sharp shuttle
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these systems are perfect

terse dirge
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Hell ya, I'm gonna be making some tomato soup with grilled cheese later rave

next egret
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which personality are the jobs looking for (the high paying ones)

dusky jacinth
sharp shuttle
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they appear flawed to morons, but smart people understand their uses and how perfect they are

terse dirge
stone edge
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waddup

sharp shuttle
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TE1M appears to be the only person here who understands the game.

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i feel sorry for the rest of you

torn cedar
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The rage bait goes insane

sharp shuttle
next egret
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😂

next egret
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brath yapping like always

terse dirge
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Cheeto doesn't like the fan I set up in the front room kek

torn cedar
sharp shuttle
stark blaze
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Actually I am curious too. What is the ideal personality a company wants. I’ve always just assumed it’s someone whos extroverted and very organized

next egret
carmine pecan
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immediatly

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no questioning

stark blaze
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Well yes, rhat too

sharp shuttle
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You change your MBTI to what corporate wants.

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Hope that helps

carmine pecan
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It's not "that too", that's the entirety of what they want

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Except maybe in a Senior

next egret
sharp shuttle
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As I said before, I look for employees with high M and N and low P.

stark blaze
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I was trying to word it in a way that wasn’t ‘an ultra conformist’

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😭

sharp shuttle
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The only personality test that matters is Dark Triad

stark blaze
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I’ve taken MBTI tests twice, I always get super high P so I have accepted that being a lying mf is the only way to succeed in this world

sharp shuttle
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High P just means you are going to suck working with the team and will likely steal shit and get assmad when brath gets under your skin

next egret
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so why are you hating

sharp shuttle
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You dont want to be high P

stark blaze
sharp shuttle
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High P = high neuroticism

vital linden
stark blaze
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Well, that’s just how I am, I wish I wasn’t super disorganized but we’re past this point

next egret
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low empathy = more money

hoary nebula
sharp shuttle
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My advice is if you are High P, invest some skill points into M and mask hard

stark blaze
sharp shuttle
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else you are going to get fuckin fucked

vital linden
sharp shuttle
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and you wont understand why, get mad, and do something destructive to yourself or others

stone edge
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anyone in here play over thre wire

sharp shuttle
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2016 called

hoary nebula
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Lmao

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Brath

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I thought you would come back in 1 year

sharp shuttle
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Im traveling right now

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I am here to pass time, you guys are really really good at it

lusty forum
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@sharp shuttle what’s ur thought on INTP

stark blaze
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What?

next egret
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Which personality has the highest IQ on average

vital linden
stark blaze
sharp shuttle
# lusty forum <@1198360725299667197> what’s ur thought on INTP

While I do have deep and introspective opinions on MBTI like goth chicks make snail trails over astrology and shit - in this public forum I dont have any opinions.

As far as im concerned your prosepctive employer is going to want to know your MBTI so they can insta deny your ass during screening and save themselves from your noncomformity if it proceeded - therefore, you lie about who you are. Social engineering.

Secondarily, MBTI is pretty neat, so knowing your own, and understanding it in good faith helps you do the above and contend with others who hastily reveal their MBTI, IQ, and interests on a whim just to seem interesting - for that, I would say either don't, or strategically mislead whoever your audience is

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with that said chat, my iq is 79, my mbti is esfp, and i love dancing

carmine pecan
sharp shuttle
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INTP > INTJ > ENTJ

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the margins are so tight they are all basically tied.

next egret
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Making a test rn since it was a while ago

stark blaze
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@lusty forum he said youre a genius

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get your two balls over here

sharp shuttle
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Every year I retake MBTI, Dark Triad, Enneagram, and Predictive Index tests and track how they have changed with my sentience and experience as I grow older. I've done this since I was 17 years old

lusty forum
vital linden
stark blaze
lusty forum
next egret
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now they want 0.5 usd

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for the results

sharp shuttle
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what?

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bro just take the 16personalities test and be done with it

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they make your pay for "insights"

stark blaze
sharp shuttle
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now that shit is a grift and real pseudoscience, dont pay for a horoscope, its the same thing

stark blaze
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actually yes

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I remembered ballbird

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!

next egret
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i took that 3 years ago got ENTJ idk if i will still get same maybe not

sharp shuttle
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Sometimes you do sometimes you dont

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I have consistently gotten my MBTI every year for 8 years

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and the only thing that has changed is my enneagram

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People are so fucking annoying about mbti, they are like ITS BULLSHIT, but its literally just an advertising profile

stark blaze
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why do you all have the virgin personality types

sharp shuttle
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hmm i dont have any memes ready

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this will do

worthy cargo
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Mmmm Biryani and chatni

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😄

sharp shuttle
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if we are going to pivot from this topic to the nuances of how great knowledge is lost when their genes are not proliferated due to rejection throughout history and the changing dynamics of female interests and qualities in a partner, we wont go there

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but this is cybersecurity

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you do the math

worthy cargo
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We ordered Indian food today

sharp shuttle
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in terms of 16personalities memes, this one sorta answers your "which corporate MBTI is the most successful"

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so, blue people, i guess?

stark blaze
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you are an 18 year old baby.

mystic harbor
sharp shuttle
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The likelihood of people in this discord being Purple, are so high it would boggle your minds

next egret
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ENTP-A

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Idk why i get this now when i got ENTJ before

sharp shuttle
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again, purple

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You barely changed

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the letters on the outside are the ones that change the most

near swift
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My name is Golam

next egret
mystic harbor
next egret
sharp shuttle
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its not really part of MBTI

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its a newer thing

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A is the one you want

next egret
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personality tests are bs

sharp shuttle
#

Working as intended

next egret
#

Agree with everything except purple

sharp shuttle
#

You really should be honored, Purple are the people who make great changes in the world

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Green people spend their entire lifes misguided and manipulated. Blue people are cogs for the machine, and yellow people are the ones who probably have the most fun in life.

glacial crane
#

hello

stark blaze
sharp shuttle
#

You dont even know mine

next egret
sharp shuttle
stark blaze
#

Well, you mentioned that most people here are probably purple so it’s not a far cry that you are too

sharp shuttle
#

I change my MBTI to fit my employer, like a smart person

next egret
sharp shuttle
#

My views are my employers, the current thing, and whatever allows me to relate to my coworkers (and never not my own)

#

You are either young or havent put yourself in many stressful situations

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being prone to stress means you are a bitch, no offense intended

next egret
#

I never feel stress i just do it tomorrow

sharp shuttle
# mystic harbor Like?

Well, the big ones that toughen people up if we need specifics..

Poverty, Abandonement, Despair, Overcoming depression, Finding meaning through psychedelic intervention (this one is probably the most stressful), Breakups, Rejection, etc

next egret
#

your looking for structure

glacial crane
#

military just provokes more stress

sharp shuttle
#

telling me you have an issue with stress is not a winning recipe for military service

glacial crane
#

ptsd is coming

next egret
#

stress is propaganda

sharp shuttle
#

stress just becomes wisdom once you understand it

sharp shuttle
#

lord almighty

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okay

#

yeah rejection is like level 1 stress though

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everyone has to go through it

mystic harbor
#

Also

sharp shuttle
#

still super mild, but heartbreak is a more stressful

torn cedar
#

Does depression offer anything?

sharp shuttle
#

I will assume you know the feeling

mystic harbor
#

Too many

sharp shuttle
#

I said overcoming depression, not depression

#

they are different kinds

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overcoming it is really hard

next egret
#

does depression cause stress? Dont you just become more calm and wanna be in bed all day

sharp shuttle
#

yes depression causes stress

glacial crane
#

and stress cause depression

torn cedar
sharp shuttle
mystic harbor
#

Therapy session

carmine pecan
#

It can become wisdom

#

it can often just end in ...

#

💀

mystic harbor
stark blaze
#

…what do you think of people who kill themselves?

mystic harbor
#

Good

next egret
glacial crane
sharp shuttle
stark blaze
terse dirge
#

Tomatoes are roasting in the oven for tomato soup rave

sharp shuttle
carmine pecan
#

Being reborn as a bug is common

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Because humans are rare

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and there are like 10x more bugs than humans

next egret
mystic harbor
glacial crane
carmine pecan
#

Except if you attain Anagamihood first

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then suicide

sharp shuttle
#

who want souls

stark blaze
sharp shuttle
#

so idk man

stark blaze
#

I did not know that this server had a daft punk emoji

terse dirge
#

I wish I had pickles to put on the grilled cheese as garnish or on top of the sandwiches

carmine pecan
#

The sheer number of insects on Earth vastly overshadows the human population, with an estimated 10 quintillion individual insects compared to approximately 8.2 billion humans

#

Yeah... y'all probably be reborn as bugs, just for numerical reasons

#

no karma involved

glacial crane
sharp shuttle
#

Being beborn as a human requires a soul, you forfeit it if you commit sudoku, dont do that.

carmine pecan
next egret
#

Is religion the best thing that happened humanity or the worst

glacial crane
#

worst

next egret
#

best

sharp shuttle
mystic harbor
sharp shuttle
#

yall really black and white on shit sometimes

glacial crane
#

less thinking

frail turtle
mystic harbor
next egret
#

People saying "we dont need religion" are stupid

carmine pecan
glacial crane
frail turtle
#

only tomato accessories should go on grilled cheese

sharp shuttle
#

that shitty trap music you love is from music theory discovered by monks and weaponized, so religion for music might be bad 😛

mystic harbor
terse dirge
frail turtle
#

like tomato soup...or spaghetti with tomato sauce

next egret
#

Is the majority in this discord left or right wing

frail turtle
#

well I'm right wing

sharp shuttle
#

smart people will pretend to be left wing here

#

so left wing.

carmine pecan
#

I am both

sharp shuttle
#

i assume you are all smart

torn cedar
#

What if we just don't vote and or have a side

sharp shuttle
#

but also, imagine living in dichotomies

frail turtle
#

a cute little munchkin

carmine pecan
torn cedar
frail turtle
carmine pecan
#

It's the nature of consciousness that humans always wake up to differences first

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before being able to wake up to coexistence

glacial crane
#

Have any of you taken an IQ test?

carmine pecan
#

This is indeed how it works and can be verified by practice of meditation

#

Epstein did not kill himself though

sharp shuttle
#

thats true, its just sad many people dont realize its controlled opposition

frail turtle
#

dont talk politics here; we are hackers, we argue more about medical stuff on here....well....because of me.

carmine pecan
#

Why sad?

#

It's just how it is

glacial crane
#

im a political hacker

sharp shuttle
#

and you harm others

#

its sad

carmine pecan
#

To be fair

#

8 billion people is a lot

#

Life was simpler when we had 100 Mil only

#

Maybe a reset?

sharp shuttle
#

the great filter should be intelligence

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i dont care about anything else

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if you get frustrated by not understanding, i dont want you around

carmine pecan
#

I still think the great filter is too much sex

next egret
sharp shuttle
#

i think that still proves my point petals, smart people dont procreate unless conditions are good

torn cedar
carmine pecan
sharp shuttle
carmine pecan
#

Robots don't buy "get rich quickly" courses

next egret
torn cedar
sharp shuttle
next egret
carmine pecan
sharp shuttle
#

smonk some leaf and think about it for yourself

carmine pecan
#

then no one can get rich quickly

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By selling said courses

sharp shuttle
#

some answers im not going to willingly give

#

but for a start case study, you think an ASI is going to keep expanding itself once humans are gone? It's probably going to self destruct.

next egret
sharp shuttle
#

Hey, i knew you were a smart guy.

terse dirge
vital linden
spare horizon
#

got 80 i think or 85

sharp shuttle
sharp shuttle
glacial crane
#

i believed you guys pro hackers were like 150 iq or something

sharp shuttle
#

actually the higher the hack the box rank the less intelligent you are

spare horizon
sharp shuttle
#

once you get past hacker the likelihood of writeup purchasing goes up astronomically

dusky jacinth
#

Not me though

#

I’m at this rank legit

#

I worked hard for my rank

#

I’m proud of it

sharp shuttle
#

realizing that ranking up is super duper lame is an indicator of intelligence

dusky jacinth
#

How many more things can we make an indicator of intelligence

spare horizon
sharp shuttle
#

everything?

#

the list is not exhaustive

dusky jacinth
#

The more books you read that start with a W is an indicator of intelligence

sharp shuttle
#

let me check my collection

dusky jacinth
#

The more Tuesday’s in which you don’t think about Abraham Lincoln that’s an indicator of intelligence

sharp shuttle
#

yeah id say you are right, if a book starts with W, you might be stupid as hell

glacial crane
#

IM NO STUPIT

dusky jacinth
sharp shuttle
#

War and Peace is the only somewhat intelligent book I can surmise

dusky jacinth
#

Yeah, that’s about i can come up with either

#

No, actually. Way of Shadow’s by Brent weeks

sharp shuttle
#

Mocking indicators of intelligence in everything is sorta redundant, its the basis for judgement

dusky jacinth
#

Pretty good series, but that book in particular had me absolutely entrapped in everything

sharp shuttle
#

Well there is always an outlier, but the majority speaks

glacial crane
#

A strong sign of someone being gifted is if they have read The Little Prince.

sharp shuttle
#

I would say remove the "little" and i agree

west venture
#

You're back

dusky jacinth
#

I don’t get gaslit

#

I just accept blindly that you are right

#

There’s a difference

sharp shuttle
dusky jacinth
#

Womp womp

#

Embed failure

sharp shuttle
#

no

#

if your college cared about your success they would at least teach you scala

#

i dont understand people who are still going to college

dusky jacinth
#

PYTHON WHOOOOO

sharp shuttle
#

i like... actually think you are dumb

dusky jacinth
#

it’s a knack I have

sharp shuttle
#

not you

#

people still in college

dusky jacinth
#

Damn

#

Oh no I dropped out three times

#

I really tried

#

I just hate it SOOOOO much

sharp shuttle
#

20K-100K debt vs. 200 dollars a month for ChatGPT pro

#

actually insane

glacial crane
#

btw i go to class for assistance then i understand nothing then i go to home and learn by myself

dusky jacinth
#

Like I’m already here

sharp shuttle
#

Paying the 200 for chatgpt is just far superior to manually enumerating resources

#

But yeah

#

you can

dusky jacinth
#

I just haven’t gotten used to it honestly

#

I’ve really been trying to use it to assist my work flow

sharp shuttle
#

simply append "include links to resources" to any query, verify

dusky jacinth
#

It’s not super natural for me

#

I still look everything up by hand

sharp shuttle
#

do you know how to google dork?

dusky jacinth
#

Like I instinctively just open Brave

#

I do

west venture
sharp shuttle
#

then stop, pick up a chatbot

dusky jacinth
sharp shuttle
#

dorking is the only skill you needed to learn for manual enumeration

dusky jacinth
#

Fair enough

sharp shuttle
#

anyways, im a total dropout, not even high school, people should stop going to college, unless its to get laid

#

thats the real raw truth

west venture
sharp shuttle
#

lol

dusky jacinth
#

Yeah what makes you think that?

west venture
#

Bc I am in college

sharp shuttle
#

someone didnt get invited to parties

dusky jacinth
#

You think I did one semester to get laid? Absolutely I did. I was highly un successful

west venture
sharp shuttle
#

cope and justify all you want, its a bullshit risk assessment given current environment and market conditions (which will not return to normalcy)

dusky jacinth
#

You think I can talk to a woman? No bro I’m gonna explain what a MITM is. Has it only worked one time with a CompSci girl? Yes. Am I happy with that? No, I had wished I was at home programming.

sharp shuttle
#

you pay

#

its not always with money

carmine pecan
#

So I can't sleep

dusky jacinth
#

~you’re paying with your time~

carmine pecan
#

And I agree with Brath when it comes to college

dusky jacinth
#

~time you could spend pursuing what you are good at~

carmine pecan
#

Imagine being in HackTheBox from your 18 to 22

#

Instead of fucking college

#

lol

#

Y'all would be menaces of hacking

dusky jacinth
#

~I just turned 22~

#

Okay I’m done with the ~

#

I just watched the newest Kill Tony episode and I was singing everything

#

Like rob schneider

carmine pecan
#

College is the ultimate test of who is a good cog in the machine

dusky jacinth
#

~I highly agree with that~

carmine pecan
#

So you can be a cog from 22 to 72

#

yay!

#

Good life

west venture
dusky jacinth
#

Yippee!!!

dusky jacinth
dusky jacinth
glacial crane
#

I will probably only leave my university when I get a good job, it is perhaps a justification for my unproductivity since I am not required to work.

sharp shuttle
sharp shuttle
#

that isnt going to change

dusky jacinth
#

Damn

carmine pecan
#

You are going to paid college?

#

and waiting for a good job?

#

oh god

#

oh god

#

This will backfire so hard

dusky jacinth
#

You broke him

#

Apologize

#

Apologize to @carmine pecan

carmine pecan
#

Like this will backfire in unpayable ways

#

Except if he becomes a millionarie like today

#

now

dusky jacinth
#

God I wish

carmine pecan
#

I am just happy college in Brazil is free

west venture
#

I'd say give up IT altogether and go to college for some non technical subjects. Like history or music, or archeology maybe.

sharp shuttle
west venture
dusky jacinth
#

AI will need us

sharp shuttle
dusky jacinth
#

Computers are dumb

dusky jacinth
west venture
#

#1 hacker on HackerONE is an AI btw

dusky jacinth
#

You just have to learn how to beat it

sharp shuttle
#

Yes, let bug bounty AI demoralize you into nonexistence

dusky jacinth
#

It is trained only to do that

sharp shuttle
#

All it does is Fuzz

#

you are silly

dusky jacinth
#

It’s like hashcat the fucking AI

#

I think there’s something to the way humans do things that Technology in any fashion will be able to do

carmine pecan
#

How easily we forget we are dreaming

dusky jacinth
#

They have simply adapted the things we already do

sharp shuttle
#

The real question is if you think you are incapable of contending with AI, why are you still here?

west venture
#

Still where

sharp shuttle
#

Here. This discord

dusky jacinth
#

Now I wouldn’t say all that

west venture
#

Idk bc I sometimes chat here when I'm bored

glacial crane
#

I don't understand how the economy and jobs will works the day AI is completely dominant in most jobs.

dusky jacinth
#

It won’t be

sharp shuttle
carmine pecan
#

it won't work

sharp shuttle
#

yeah, I understand why you feel that way

dusky jacinth
#

I’m here because I’m bored

#

I’m playing guitar right now

#

I haven’t been doing anything for hours

carmine pecan
#

People will be starting their "carrers" at 30

#

if ever

sharp shuttle
#

College is built around that system

carmine pecan
#

A job that you are not activelly searching?

west venture
#

My cousin went to college for electrical work, and guess what. The same day he graduated he got a job. And we IT people have to be extremely skilled superhumans to even be considered by a company.

sharp shuttle
#

You are doomed to fail based on this statement

#

I say that sincerely and with love

sharp shuttle
#

Imagine following trends

west venture
#

Well at least he got a job...

sharp shuttle
#

For how long?

west venture
#

And I don't

#

Idk for years now

sharp shuttle
#

?

dusky jacinth
#

I’ve got the dumbest job in the world

sharp shuttle
#

Then its not even a proper argument

#

Hes been an electrician for years

west venture
#

No he got a job about 2 years ago when he graduated

sharp shuttle
#

Okay.. listen

#

please tell me you understand apprenticemenship

west venture
#

If you graduated from college for say software engineering, you won't have a job is what im saying

sharp shuttle
#

But you did two years ago.

west venture
#

Probably not honestly

sharp shuttle
#

Okay moving on

#

The point is, going to be a electrician is the same thing as learn to code

#

In 2 years, if thats your argument, there will be no electrician jobs.

#

Your bro will be out of work

west venture
#

But AI can't do electrical stuff

sharp shuttle
#

you are still being naive

west venture
#

At least not easily

sharp shuttle
#

if 20000 people go to be electricians, that means they will offer the work cheaper

dusky jacinth
#

AI can’t do anything but be the most advanced search engine OAT

#

At best we’ll get a Jarvis

sharp shuttle
#

your bro will have a standard of living he cant compete for

#

do you not get that?

glacial crane
#

William Sidis taught himself, had the talent for any job and any salary, and still didn't succeed.

sharp shuttle
#

its not hard to be an electrician.

#

in fact is so fucking easy i do all my own stuff

#

why would i pay for someone to put resistors in my walls

west venture
#

Do you also fix broken power cables when a tree falls on them in the road?

sharp shuttle
#

Electricians do three things:
Drywall and fixtures
Bend metal pipe
screw copper together

#

prove me wrong

#

monkey shit

sharp shuttle
west venture
#

Well idk if he does all that, but his main Job is to work on the power grid

sharp shuttle
#

if your brother is a powerline technician, he is not a general contractor/electrician

west venture
#

Oh

sharp shuttle
#

your brother is on the red team, so to speak, for electrical industries

#

he is in a niche position

#

there are so few of them, he will likely be tenured for the rest of his life

#

its the same shit in cyber

dusky jacinth
#

NSA NSA NSA

sharp shuttle
#

so arguing can AI do red team, is super stupid

#

red team varies extremely by engagement mission

#

it requires humans not just because of the nature of it, but because its regulated

#

like electrical power lines.

dusky jacinth
#

It’s true I’ve seen them (I’m lying)

sharp shuttle
#

but what we are comparing here is: college

Go to college to be pentester
or
Go to college to be electrician

same exact issues

spring holly
glacial crane
#

any online stuff can be done for AI

spring holly
sharp shuttle
dusky jacinth
#

Yeah red team engagements can be mini MI7 operations

sharp shuttle
#

they are only going to get more intense as robotics industries take off

dusky jacinth
#

From the dad my stories tells about his time as a red teamer

#

It’s what inspired me to pursue red teaming

sharp shuttle
#

there is alot at stake here in cyber, in the future, if you are easily stressed, just dont

#

like seriously

dusky jacinth
#

Exploit dev and red teaming. The dream right there

sharp shuttle
#

you will end up frustrated and miserable

west venture
#

Yeah imma farm

dusky jacinth
#

Aura farm

west venture
#

Plus the only REAL use I've put my cyber/IT skills is to reverse engineer and crack games and software I am too broke to pay for 😂

sharp shuttle
#

Well that not really a career anymore too

#

if you saw VAC got updated and destroyed the entire industry today

west venture
#

Really

sharp shuttle
#

Yeah, you cant cheat in cs now

dusky jacinth
#

Fuck anti cheat

#

Controversial but a mf that can shoot me through five walls is hilarious

spring holly
dusky jacinth
#

And I’d rather have a good time then be good at cs

sharp shuttle
spring holly
#

Nothing is impossible

spring holly
#

Researchers will still figure a way

west venture
#

Not too hard to build

spring holly
#

Isn’t that what they said for riots kernel anti cheat

sharp shuttle
#

and you have a background in writing game cheats, i assume this from your brevity in statements

sharp shuttle
#

lmfao, ozeba, soon you will have to buy a tpm to play esports games.

#

they will gladly sell it to you

west venture
#

There's this CNN called YOLO it can be trained easily to detect objects very accurately (including enemies). Just train it on the game, get a video feed and move the mouse. Much harder or close to impossible to detect

sharp shuttle
dusky jacinth
#

A group of pandas is called an embarrassment

dusky jacinth
#

Idk I made that up

tiny canyon
#

@sharp shuttle i've got the world on a string

dusky jacinth
#

You hack my bank yet @tiny canyon

alpine pumice
terse dirge
#

Tomato soup turned out really good

dusky jacinth
spring holly
# sharp shuttle explain to me how actor tracking works, you have 10 seconds

Get the address in memory, take for example a player is at a specific location on the map cord xyz. If player x moves to a new coordinate xyz you want to match your cross hair into that players region

More like a box if an alive player is in that box region follow

So convert their location into your camera space which is the box I mentioned above

west venture
#

That's not easy to do btw

sharp shuttle
#

it took you that long to say that?

spring holly
#

lol I was typing

west venture
#

Ozeba do you develop cheats for Android games?

spring holly
sharp shuttle
#

i think his only experience with "cheat dev" is using cheatengine to be fair

spring holly
west venture
spring holly
spring holly
sharp shuttle
#

you dont need to convince me I used to run infected lobbies while you were still sucking on your thumb

sharp shuttle
#

i genuinely do not care

west venture
spring holly
dusky jacinth
#

First time I’ve seen skid be used as a true slur