general

[rustic carbon]

How come from easy to jump to hard?

[agile thunder]

just suck it up and go through the pain

[chrome tree]

Serious question. Can you recommend me some wipers? I got these rainx that are streaking my windshield up bad. Never had an issue with rainx before but it leaves behind this residue I've never seen

[sharp shuttle]

The engagement was at a water treatment facility.

[frail turtle]

You can only take the exam if you stick with it.

[rustic carbon]

explain..

[frail turtle]

They wont let you take the exam unless you complete a path I think.

[rustic carbon]

No I mean you can't take another role if you already have one role?

Or is it not recommended?

Or is it normal?

[frail turtle]

Yes theres actually different grades of wipers, but you need the right kind for your car. Can only get the right model at the store.

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah thats a decent answer. I was mostly looking for "siphon"

[agile thunder]

you can switch whenever but It's probably better to stick with the path you chose instead of having to lose alot of progress

[obtuse fern]

Generally speaking: stick to a single path

[frail turtle]

Well technically speaking you can do whatever you want lol

But you wanna stick with one.

[rustic carbon]

Like say for example I do jr cybersec analyst to get started... do I stick there or do I get in pentesting?

Is it not recommended?

[frail turtle]

Autozone sells duralax flex or Bosch which are the higher grades

[heady sage]

The amount of stupid questions being asked in this server daily is astonishing

[rustic carbon]

Yee but what do people normally do..

[obtuse fern]

Depends on what you feel more drawn towards

[chrome tree]

Was trying to avoid that luls. I like the new same day delivery thing and went with that when I got the news ones a few weeks back. I'll take your recommend and just go in though. Dang things were expensive, but meh

[agile thunder]

finish jr cybersec anal then do whatever it what "people normally do"

shortening analyst was a bad idea and i see that now

[rustic carbon]

One says easy one says medium... Im thinking because one is easy i would be more comfortable going next to the medium

idk if Im wrong

Im new to this shit 💀

[obtuse fern]

Difficulty is subjective

The best thing is doing whatever path you enjoy

[rustic carbon]

So you are saying that I finish jr cybersec and then I do whatever I please.?

[zealous charm]

[rustic carbon]

Do you guys have digital forensic?

[heady sage]

Genuinely suprised that you’re still here after all the dumbass shit you’ve been asked @obtuse fern

[agile thunder]

yeah, or dont do jr cybersec at all. just do what you want to do

[obtuse fern]

CJCA is there for getting your feet wet and some decent fundamentals

[frail turtle]

Dont cheap out with commercial wipes they are not worth. That's all ill say.

[rustic carbon]

The difficulty spectrum is kinda giving me the anxiety thats why Im asking 🥲

[agile thunder]

as long as you keep at it you'll be fine, now stop asking and go study

[rustic carbon]

I'll prolly start tomorrow its 1am and I have work tomorrow

But one last question

[heady sage]

Holy shit stop asking questions and just go do what you need to

[chrome tree]

I won't. 🫡 That's why I usually shell out for the rainx or bosch. Just this time I feel like I got a bad set, but some people said they do have a tendency to streak after I did some research. My fault for not checking lol

[rustic carbon]

Im just curious..

[crude lynx]

now i have some stupid questions to ask, how did you guys break into the field?

[heady sage]

A goblin told me to do it

[chrome tree]

You don't break into the field. The field breaks you

[proud moth]

i had 17 euros in my bank account and i had 1 month to find a job

[rustic carbon]

.. can I ask? 🥲 👉👈

[zealous charm]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[agile thunder]

i found a book somewhere and got addicted

[lilac cipher]

So you bought a vip subscription right

[heady sage]

Jesus this

[proud moth]

my family dislikes what I do and they didn't give me any money i borrowed money from my gf and uncle

i had 1 year of time or go homeless to go into cyber

it's easy when you don't have any alternatives

[heady sage]

This is what you SHOULD be doing instead of sitting around asking questions on how to get started

Just fucking get started

[rustic carbon]

Aight one last question

🥲

[proud moth]

RIP vader is gonna kill yo ass

[rustic carbon]

DO YOU GUYS

recommend

[zealous charm]

No

[rustic carbon]

red team or blue team?

[heady sage]

No

[rustic carbon]

or purple

[proud moth]

No

[heady sage]

No

[rustic carbon]

🥲

[chrome tree]

I like green

[rustic carbon]

Aight then cya tomorrow then-

[proud moth]

I like not starving

[sharp shuttle]

Purple isn't real, blue is for people who can't red, and red is for sociopaths

[ornate pike]

any have any idea hw to get tryhackme vouchers ??

[proud moth]

most accurate description of all time

[crude lynx]

what do you guys mean by 'no'?

[chrome tree]

Oh, are we not saying our favorite colors?

lol

[zealous charm]

You can purchase them online with money

[heady sage]

Wrong platform

[rustic carbon]

For me to not ask..

[ornate pike]

except this

[rustic carbon]

[ornate pike]

wht?

[zealous charm]

[rustic carbon]

So you are saying that blue team is better than red

[proud moth]

people would rather ask what to do than open Burp, i promise you just open Burp it will make sense

[lilac cipher]

Give me all burp default tabs

[ornate pike]

u have studied owasp top 10 in depth?

[chrome tree]

No. caido.

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-annoyed-angry-frustrated-silence-gif-3234177536345299895

[zealous charm]

Learn

[heady sage]

Why don’t people just fucking experiment. It’s like the easiest shit ever to do. Just click buttons

[lilac cipher]

Dashboard 🙁

[sharp shuttle]

Sounds like you want to go blue to me

[crude lynx]

today i actually pwned a box, but then i found someone who's trolling on discord...

[flint copper]

they just chill like that

[rustic carbon]

I really can't decide

[sharp shuttle]

You know why.

[rustic carbon]

Im between pentesting and dfir

[ornate pike]

blue teams jobs are more than red teamers ( penetration testers )

[carmine pecan]

not for long

[sharp shuttle]

Crazy statement

[zealous charm]

But fr the context of this was in an interview I was asking about his standard web app testing toolkit. Of course he said burp so I ask if he has any favorite extensions to which the guy replied “repeater and uhhhh the tab where you can send a bunch of requests”

Like bro if you are interviewing for a web app pentest role you should know a little more than that

[proud moth]

there is no owasp top 10, it's a lie, web exploitation is infinitely nuanced and incomprehensibly huge field

[sharp shuttle]

Agree completely, thats why they change it every year to try and explain away changes.

[carmine pecan]

Yes, but then one gotta start somewhere

[rustic carbon]

Aight

[ornate pike]

yeah i know that there are many vuln except this but still reflected xss works today also

[rustic carbon]

Last question

jkjk

Have a good one guys

Gnight

[stone marsh]

Active scan++, is clearly the best because it actually makes the scanner pick things up

[lilac cipher]

Lol the tab where you can send a lot of requests.... So repeater (technically just spam ctrl + space) xd

[zealous charm]

I also did an interview the other day for a web app pentester role and the guy was like “I haven’t opened burp in a few years” lmao where do you even go from there in a technical interview

[heady sage]

….

Is he dumb

[proud moth]

JWT Editor, Autorize, InQL are S tier

[lilac cipher]

Maybe he was on that caido grind

[proud moth]

lmaoooo

[carmine pecan]

Dude is either really noob, or really really elite

[ornate pike]

just give hall of shame certificate

[carmine pecan]

nothing in between possible

[proud moth]

bro only uses curl and is actually a beast

plot twist

[carmine pecan]

curl + mitmproxy

[proud moth]

this is the grown up setup i wish to use one day

[zealous charm]

Firefox’s built in repeater is actually doable

[carmine pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/little-jedi-gif-5729231128462948246

[proud moth]

this guys firefoxes

[agile thunder]

mitmproxy is bloat use inbuilt network tab 🗣️ 🔥

[proud moth]

"copy as curl" from CTRL SHIFT I

is all a master needs

[carmine pecan]

bloat?

[zealous charm]

Or use postman so the dev team can reproduce

[stone marsh]

Just use wireshark and break encryption

[proud moth]

cuh how is that bloat

[agile thunder]

everythings bloat nowadays

[proud moth]

postman is OP for REST

[carmine pecan]

CLI tool is more bloat than a Browser written in Rust?

[proud moth]

import swagger file

[carmine pecan]

Average DWM user be like

[stone marsh]

Main issue with postman is that it runs everything back up into the cloud

Bruno is a decent alternative

[sharp shuttle]

Finally a real discussion.

[ornate pike]

learned owasp top 10 and wanted to learn other vulns also and mastered burp suite and zap also any other things which i need to learn anyone?

[agile thunder]

yes

[crude lynx]

i used to use postman a lot as a developer....

[chrome tree]

You like, actively choose, to use Zapp?

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-comedy-ryan-reynolds-gross-sick-gif-3496531

[ornate pike]

i use burp pro

zap interface is not classy like burp

[sharp shuttle]

Zap is a bad tool

[chrome tree]

Whew, thought you were a weirdo for second there. If you like Zapp you're a sociopath

[sharp shuttle]

Just dont

[crude lynx]

now i have a stupid question, is it worth investing into burp pro as a noob?

[chrome tree]

Get caido

to start

then look into pro burp investment

[agile thunder]

code your own burp pro. call it fartsuite

[ornate pike]

i used in my beginning coz of hype nd i just learned it sometimes hr asks also in interview which creates an good and a better learner impression also

[crude lynx]

you mean like manual python scripts?

[sharp shuttle]

Use free version but finish burp academy.

[agile thunder]

or any other language but yea

[solemn lichen]

helloooooooooooooo

[agile thunder]

you could make a cool burp-like gooey as well

[ornate pike]

can use crack also

[sharp shuttle]

?

Burp crack?

[ornate pike]

yea

[chrome tree]

ye, but caido is pretty afforable for the pro so no rate limiting and it has the main three functions. Plus simplistic UI. Just my opinion tho

[sharp shuttle]

Didnt realize those existed

[solemn lichen]

cracking software not advisedddd

[ornate pike]

i m using it

[agile thunder]

no the drug

[ornate pike]

means talking about that here?or malware

[agile thunder]

its like

kinda

illegal

technicallyt

[ornate pike]

ohk got it my bad

[agile thunder]

so you shouldnt talk abt it here

[solemn lichen]

is cracking software legal?

[agile thunder]

also malware

[solemn lichen]

if no, then against rules

[ornate pike]

idk

[agile thunder]

-# (its not)

[solemn lichen]

should probably figure that out before you use cracked software?

[sharp shuttle]

Im not paying for ida pro, sorry dawg

[agile thunder]

not like you would get caught anyway

[sharp shuttle]

I do pay for binja (better)

[ornate pike]

yea i first check it out but still black hat hackers are always one step ahead

[heady sage]

I don’t think I know anyone who does

[solemn lichen]

ghidra

[ornate pike]

btw whats the price of burp suite pro

[sharp shuttle]

Binja.

[sharp shuttle]

500?

[solemn lichen]

havent used it! how is it

[chrome tree]

Like 500 a year... or 3 years?

[heady sage]

I like binja

[ornate pike]

a year

[sharp shuttle]

Better than everything, getting close to IDA

[sharp shuttle]

Annually

[crude lynx]

seriously, burp pro is not that expensive. i do music and i've spent thousands on musical softwares

[ornate pike]

for indians and pakistanis its expensive

[chrome tree]

Couldn't remember. Thanks for the assist lul

[sharp shuttle]

comparing music piracy to software piracy is kinda dumb

I pay for all my music

[chrome tree]

Caido is 20 bucks a month and you can still use it for doing stuff on portswigger

[crude lynx]

nope, i mean software for doing music production

[molten bobcat]

Heya brath

[sharp shuttle]

Oh, yeah pirate that

Hi cloudge

Im not paying a subscription for a DAW

[molten bobcat]

I made dinner

[crude lynx]

paying subscription for pro tools is kinda dumb

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah for sure

[ornate pike]

congratulations on your 20 year streak

[carmine pecan]

meanwhile: Windows

[molten bobcat]

Huh?

[ornate pike]

if u know u know

[chrome tree]

That's nostalgic.

[solemn lichen]

one time payment for FL studio ezpz

on sale for pretty cheap

[sharp shuttle]

I just use Apple paid tools

also pay once and done

[solemn lichen]

i dont use apple, so thats a no-go

[sharp shuttle]

Logic Pro is very good

[solemn lichen]

i like FL quite a lot

ive heard logic pro is good though

[sharp shuttle]

I do all of my Fourier transforms in logic pro for parasitic signals

The power of audacity with the convenience of stitching tools

[solemn lichen]

i dont understand what you just said :)

i am freakin noob with DAWs

i use like a really bare minimum functionality

[sharp shuttle]

A parasitic signal is a electrical signal that can also be represented audibly. If you have those shopping carts that have locking wheels, both audio and radio can unlock them

Typically in the Khz ranges

[solemn lichen]

ahhh

[crude lynx]

yes, you can code fft or whatever using JUCE, but drawing eqs on fabfilter is more beautiful

[sharp shuttle]

I dont produce audio with logic pro, i should have stated that. I make audible signals that hack electronics/antennas

I actually dont know how to produce music at all

[solemn lichen]

i was at a noise show last week and one of the artist was using these: https://somasynths.com/ether/

very cool stuff involving a radio as well.

[agile thunder]

damn thats cool as fuck

[molten bobcat]

I do this

[agile thunder]

KITTY

[crude lynx]

that's the first time i heard you can do such a thing

[solemn lichen]

yeah didnt know you could do that in logic

[crude lynx]

like with logic, you could emit a sine wave or something like that

but i guess it takes more than a sine wave to actually hack stuffs

[molten bobcat]

They sure can. I give you this

CVE Record: CVE-2022-38392 https://share.google/YB5C1QrAjJfU0kSHe

[sharp shuttle]

Any daw can do it, you just need high quality headphones, tear off the cuffs, stereo headsets can capture these parasitic signals then you can clean them up.

[wind kraken]

Wouldn’t a hackrf make this easier?

[molten bobcat]

Audio signal based CVE

[sharp shuttle]

No

Hackrf is sub ghz, the front end is not sensitive to anything operating in audible ranges

[crude lynx]

im curious what does the parasitic signal sound like?

[sharp shuttle]

Beep beep beep beep beep

[stone edge]

At my exes house watching hack the box vids her car battery died and she called so I helped out , she’s at work so it’s big vibes

[sharp shuttle]

I can send you the audio file used to unlock shopping cart wheels i made

You can hear it.

An iphone speaker can unlock the carts

Parasitic emf

[crude lynx]

will it hurt my device lol?

[sharp shuttle]

No

Its an wav

[molten bobcat]

The audio

Not the file

[sharp shuttle]

No, its designed for phone speaker diaphragms

give it a listen

[molten bobcat]

Ow

Evil grasshopper

[crude lynx]

wow

[molten bobcat]

Thank you this audio signal interfered with my pacemaker

[wind kraken]

How would you know this particular frequency was unlocking the cart wheels?

[molten bobcat]

He tested it

[sharp shuttle]

I made it

I captured the signal from the ground, and made it audible

Its called parasitic emf

Audio signals of a frequency can hop on pcb front ends

As if they were radio signals

[agile thunder]

would radio signals be more effective at inducing current into pcbs?

well i guess they're also less portable than a phone

[molten bobcat]

Yes, considering that's the intent

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah

[molten bobcat]

It's designed to handle radio waves in the first place

[sharp shuttle]

The idea is the phone can do it without a radio

[molten bobcat]

But this allows someone without the necessary radio to unlock the carts

[agile thunder]

yeah i get it now thats cool

[sharp shuttle]

Flipper can do it as well

[molten bobcat]

Fleep

[sharp shuttle]

But flipper is a gimmick

[agile thunder]

ima build a esp32 toy

[toxic sandal]

Monthly reminder that referral bonuses are a scam at HTB

[sharp shuttle]

They are designed for influencers. You and your 1 friend (if only) are not the target audience

[wind kraken]

Yeah I was wondering whether the signal itself, when converted into audio, should comply with certain frequencies in order to work with the PCB front ends?

We are talking about air displacements

Lower frequencies drag more air than higher ones (I suppose)

[sharp shuttle]

Uhhh, parasitic emf with audio is a very thin margin of IoT devices it works on

[wind kraken]

Oh okay

[sharp shuttle]

Like I can name 6 probably

Everything else has more advanced encoding

If you need high baud rate square waves, it wont work

[wind kraken]

So the cart wheels were premeditated targets 😅

[sharp shuttle]

I mean.

I may or may not have stolen a shopping cart for research.

[wind kraken]

LMAO

[sharp shuttle]

I may or may not have hooked up an rc car with a payload.

That may or may not lock all carts at a shopping center while zipping around.

Allegedly.

[agile thunder]

😭 diabolical

[wind kraken]

I used to have a professor at the uni who used to run a full Tor node on a school workstation and his reasons were precisely the same 😂😂

[sharp shuttle]

I subscribe to the old ways of hacking. Not this new age pansy shit

[wind kraken]

Well, being an electrical engineer would surely help

Otherwise it takes a lot of dedication (and money)

[sharp shuttle]

You are just starting out no?

With hardware hacking

[wind kraken]

I mean I can use UART, JTAG and SPI and perform voltage injection but I don’t have an oscilloscope and I have little to no knowledge on signals so yeah

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah, I noticed your workstation lacks a few key items, but its genuinely a good spread.

[molten bobcat]

Behold.

The cat door.

[wind kraken]

I’m open to suggestions

[sharp shuttle]

Depends on your goals. I primarily work with drones now but have hacked virtually every flagship iot device and ap ever made at this point

[vivid flower]

Wow a child could fit through that

Younger me would probably attempt it

[wind kraken]

So far, I worked with cheap IP cams to intercept any shady API traffic

And couple routers

[obtuse fern]

holds up a plucked chicken Behold: A man

[frail turtle]

theres is a dead centipede smeared on my wall that I killed 2 weeks ago

[vivid flower]

What kind of shopping carts does this work on? @sharp shuttle they dont all use the same code do they

[frail turtle]

he's a decoration now

[molten bobcat]

You should like.. clean that up

That's gross dude lol

[sharp shuttle]

All gatekeeper wheels, virtually every US based market uses them.

They all use the same codes.

[vivid flower]

Brilliant

[sharp shuttle]

I snagged the codes from the sherwood target specifically

@wind kraken #hardware-iot-ics

This is one of my workbenches

[ornate pike]

what about cloud pentesting ? is it gud to switch from web pentesting to cloud pentesting

[sharp shuttle]

Cloud pentesting is really just web pentesting

[ornate pike]

there are some diff \

[sharp shuttle]

The only difference is devops and api

[ornate pike]

didnt knw about cloud pentesting but still

[ornate pike]

ok got it '

[wind kraken]

What’s the device on the right? Next to the osc

[sharp shuttle]

Like, if you learn to hack jenkins, you are more or less learning cloud pentesting as its prinarily used for cicd in cloud

[sharp shuttle]

Digital multimeter, a big one

[ornate pike]

actually i didnt knew about cloud pentesting in depth thats why some institute was selling me course worth 50000 inr

[sharp shuttle]

Lol

AWS free tier + some time

dont pay for a course

Hacking cloud is hacking IAM and security policies

Its web+

[ornate pike]

means there is not a vast diff bw them

[vivid flower]

Old a cloud guru aws csa course is up on 1337x

[wind kraken]

Looks like a server rack 🤣

[molten bobcat]

Damn 🙁

[wind kraken]

I think the next big purchase will definitely be the oscilloscope

Other than that the microscope can wait

[sharp shuttle]

this is the rack

microscope is much better than oscilloscope imo

board work becomes a breeze

[sharp shuttle]

aws, azure, gcp, do are all the same under the hood, just different names for each segment

[wind kraken]

I’m lucky that I have a good sight but yeah I feel you. Having an oscilloscope however unlocks a load of new attack vectors

[sharp shuttle]

Its also just good for documenting process. Scope camera is op

[ornate pike]

u are web pentester ( just asking no offense )

[sharp shuttle]

Im an iot guy and web falls under iot, so yes

[ornate pike]

nd whats ur age ?

[sharp shuttle]

30

[ornate pike]

ok and u started from whch age

[sharp shuttle]

12

[ornate pike]

learning

okiee means 18 year

just wanted to ask some doubts can i /

?/

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah ask whatever man

Ill even tell you about stygian despair

anything goes with me

[wind kraken]

I feel IoT is a long long road

Fun nevertheless

[sharp shuttle]

IoT is web, hardware, and electrical engineering

[ornate pike]

whts the condition of job ? companies are hiring blue teamers mostly or red teamers nd salary ranges for fresher 4 both

in ur country

[sharp shuttle]

The job market isnt real and will never be the same, dont do any of this for money, do it out of passion

Money follows passion, so they say

And that will separate you from the money chasers

[ornate pike]

i hve passion but still family is not happy cz i m not earning

i m learning evrday for 14 15 hrs

[sharp shuttle]

Nobody is earning though

You need to realize something man

your parents will never ever understand

[wind kraken]

This should be pinned to this chat

[sharp shuttle]

All you can say is im trying

And that is honestly what matters

Alot of it boils down to luck

[ornate pike]

means i have skills nd passion companis will contact me

if*

[sharp shuttle]

It means when an opportunity presents itself you will be prepared to engage with it

[ornate pike]

okay got it

and right nw u r employed/

??

[sharp shuttle]

Im self employed

[ornate pike]

bug bounty hunter ?

[sharp shuttle]

Red team/red air

I do drone engagements and physpen

[ornate pike]

ohhh '

[sharp shuttle]

Ive done my time in corporate though.

Happy to answer anything related to soul crushing pentesting gigs

[ornate pike]

means u have dome some things behind the world also

[ornate pike]

its related to physical penetration or network pene?

[sharp shuttle]

I've been lucky enough to work on some amazing things

I have done every job that CISSP would cover, if that helps

[ornate pike]

ohh

and what about certi ? is ceh gud ?

[sharp shuttle]

Well you are ganna get flamed now

[toxic sandal]

ceh is only after you've mastered all of the other certs

[sharp shuttle]

but no, i am actually against certification at this point in my life

I think its all bullshit

[toxic sandal]

ccie isn't bs

[sharp shuttle]

My genuine advice would be to get the CPTS over OSCP, and that's it

[ornate pike]

my bad

[sharp shuttle]

get your foot in the door, you wont need certiifcation ever again unless your company pays for it.

CEH is a meme and always has been.

[toxic sandal]

get OSCP if you want a job

[ornate pike]

does comapnies pays without anything or we neeed to influence them?

[toxic sandal]

no one knows the CPTS, CRTO, CRTP... or even OSEP/OSWE/etc.

[ornate pike]

read this

[ornate pike]

..

[sharp shuttle]

No get CPTS and on the resume put this line:
Certified Penetration Testing Specialist (CPTS), OSCP equivalent

[ornate pike]

hw to get job as a frsher any tip for an 18 year old boy?

[toxic sandal]

what kind of fish do you want to catch

[sharp shuttle]

i have no advice, you are all fucked, and thats the raw, real deal about it

You need to pass intern/junior skill levels and become a senior without any real world experience

its a cold world

[toxic sandal]

easiest path into cybersecurity has always been shift work in a SOC or landing a compliance job running Nessus and reading SecurityHub findings

[ornate pike]

means how to get a intern as a jr pen tster thats wht i was asking

[sharp shuttle]

You dont

those jobs are gone

You only get those jobs by knowing someone

[ornate pike]

so whats running in industry now ?

[sharp shuttle]

You want it raw?

[toxic sandal]

security builders who can program

[ornate pike]

yeah i m neew bie thats why ppls

[sharp shuttle]

Blue team, SOC level 1, and maybe 2, probably fully AI'd out of existence in 3 years.

Pentesting at the junior level is already getting AI'd.

Computer programming, don't even bother. But you should still learn it for cyber.

Devops, getting AI'd out by the cloud providers.

AI, offshoring, lack of enforced regulation are destroying entry level for this industry, and pretty much any other job

You have two options in my opinion.

Git gud, become a celebrity at your niche in this industry. That means you need to be public. Go speak, do youtube, network, make connections, get hired.

Build something amazing for the industry.

I don't think the proliferation of jobs being eaten by AI is stopping anytime soon. Those are your human choices.

[ornate pike]

okay got it that there are no entries for frsher basically u need to be popular neeed to make repo in this indus then there is a chance that u can get hired

[elder inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/nat-geo-nat-geo-wild-worlds-weirdest-weird-animals-animals-gif-5501967

[sharp shuttle]

Like i said you have two options.

1. Become John Hammond, Ippsec, etc.
2. Build the next big free tool.

Anything else is cope

So we are on the same wavelength, I am currently doing number 1.

also, there is a third option, but we all know what it is, and it does not need to be said.

[molten bobcat]

I'm doing this as my option

[knotty nymph]

^my option

[sharp shuttle]

Im ganna make a blog post on this topic so i can just send people to it and not explain over and over

[vivid flower]

I feel like cyhm is kind of DOA

bandors doesnt coordinate with me on anything

[sharp shuttle]

Is this the place you want to vent about it?

[vivid flower]

Idk i guess im just going to bank on blue team

[knotty nymph]

Do it blue team is good 😀

[vivid flower]

Doesnt really help the majority of people i meet at these mixer events are people i would never hire or even tolerate in my presence if i didn't need a job

[sharp shuttle]

You made a cyber training site in a world where people shortcut even when they have endless tools available to them to actually learn

I warned you that it wouldnt hit due to this. People just want to cheat their way to a payday

[vivid flower]

I know that

I should just find a different gig

[sharp shuttle]

I think you are just misguided because you have a high standard of morals

[vivid flower]

Like maybe i should just focus on my book and stop caring

[sharp shuttle]

Again.. man

who will read it?

its the same problem

[worthy cargo]

Hey bratha

what's up man

[sharp shuttle]

Im not trying to be an asshole

[vivid flower]

I think a lot of people would

[sharp shuttle]

Alright, ill bite, whats the topic?

[knotty nymph]

Bratha where do you do pen testing for?

[sharp shuttle]

I provide services to silicon forest

[vivid flower]

Its mostly about pagan ethos and just tying a lot of historical events into a cohesive narrative. Kind of like evola but less doomery

[knotty nymph]

That's bad ass bro, nice

[vivid flower]

Like think of how many people rely on something like guns germs and steel or william durant for their understanding of world history

Its really dumb and i can make something better

[knotty nymph]

You need to go on a spirit quest imo

[vivid flower]

Ive been getting inspired by professor jiang's lectures on youtube lately

This dude is a reality painter even though he is wildly wrong

[sharp shuttle]

You didnt ask, but heres my take.

I'd read it, maybe 100 other high iq people would, because you are high iq, and you would present that information well, I know you would

The issue, is the same as with your training site. Oversaturation of ideas. Steam has too many games, amazon has too many books. Youtube has too many videos.

All of these mediums for distribution are completely clogged. How do you get traction?

You need to make money.

Don't write a book. Do a blog.

Blog is easy to digest, more people will read it. Do something to be known. Shock marketing. whatever

[vivid flower]

I know i should be doing youtube lectures

[sharp shuttle]

I agree

I really do.

[vivid flower]

I just dont like interacting with people

[sharp shuttle]

I know you are a smart motherfucker, and it will take time to get into the swing of things, but stop planning and just do. If people like what you are about, write a book that condenses your lectures/ideas

[vivid flower]

Ive gotta do what asha logos does

[sharp shuttle]

You gatta get over it man

thats why i wanted you to present with me

[vivid flower]

I know ill make it out there for bsides still

[sharp shuttle]

You still have time to CFP

[vivid flower]

I dont want to this time i have too much on my plate and i dont want to be china guy

Sorry i know youre adamant about that

[sharp shuttle]

I dont know your situation of course, but let me tell you about too much on my plate. I am working >100 hours a week right now man, you make time if you want it

We are getting old

We wont be able to put the effort in soon

[vivid flower]

I get you

[sharp shuttle]

I just want to uplift you man

[vivid flower]

Thanks

[sharp shuttle]

We all need tough love, and if my situation pays off, and i see you are also putting in the effort, im going to support you

im just not there yet

[vivid flower]

Im still gonna finish my breakfast and get my infinity gauntlet of certs but i have to focus on stuff that makes me happy too

[sharp shuttle]

im hoping presenting next month kicks off my grand plan

you dont need certs

you need to talk to people

[vivid flower]

I know i mean that i want to do crto because i already bought it

And i want to learn it

Some people pass the bar just because they can

[sharp shuttle]

im fully aware that rainsec is a grift, and many of the folks there are fucking random andy wannabe loser dipshits, but you still gatta cut butter with these frauds

im looking for any opportunity to connect with people

its much like dating now

pain

[vivid flower]

You've got thicker skin than me for sure

[sharp shuttle]

but i didnt always

look, you know what toastmasters is?

[vivid flower]

I know it. I went to them in college

Did you do toastmasters?

[sharp shuttle]

I would think youd have more confidence then

I did

thats what changed me

then i got a job in retail

public speaking used to terrify me

[vivid flower]

Its not about whether i can lead a crowd, i can. Its that i am fundamentally abrasive to people who are political and petty

[sharp shuttle]

nailed it. like i said, its like dating

[vivid flower]

When anyone gets to know me for a long period of time they cant stand me

[sharp shuttle]

you identify who is worth your time with anti-small talk

[vivid flower]

Well i shouldnt say anyone

Actually i have a lot of great friends

[sharp shuttle]

stand you?

what do you mean?

do you feel like i cant stand you?

[vivid flower]

But i mean in normie spaces people feel threatened by me

My own father actually felt threatened by me because as a kid i made him look bad

[sharp shuttle]

elaborate? I guess i will ask you a question.

If your colleague is talking with a client, and tells a lie, what would you do?

[vivid flower]

I misspoke saying "anyone", i just mean that midwits are threatened by people they know are smarter than them and they strike out to maintain the illusion of competence. Just look at how c1oud treats me

[sharp shuttle]

midwits dont even know anyone is smarter than them

they think they are geniuses

[vivid flower]

Well, who do i work for in that situation? And they know it privately but they cant admit it

[sharp shuttle]

also dont bring cloud into this man

that was uncalled for

[sharp shuttle]

its open ended

[terse dirge]

bruh my workflows in shuffle take forever

[vivid flower]

Well ive been in that situation a few times my instinct is to correct them but nowadays i know that if we are selling a package or something if im too forthright the client will just do the work themselves

So i usually just allow myself to accept that im performing a service

And i dont say anything

[sharp shuttle]

your instinct is to correct them, I would say that sums it up

Like with some other people I know, they are incompitable with the way the corporate world works

for me, i see it as a game with specific rules

your morality upholds your conviction in the face of the rules, because they are bad?

[molten bobcat]

A smile better suits a hero

[vivid flower]

I had the same feeling when i sold my first painting. I knew it was just a bunch of shit i threw together from stuff i bought at walmart and i had a stack of duds id never sell but someone thought it was good and paid me 35 bucks for it

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-of-light-gif-20262474

[toxic sandal]

you 21 yet or nah

[sharp shuttle]

right, but i would like you to answer my question about corporate rules

[molten bobcat]

I've been getting into darkest dungeon 2 lately

Very good game, runs well on the steam deck 🙂

[vivid flower]

No, i dont see it as a bad thing, just something i'm not used to

[molten bobcat]

THE LIGHT GAINS PURCHASE

https://tenor.com/view/darkest-dungeon-affliction-irrational-gif-11838038135160624284

[vivid flower]

Though i have a friend who hates the idea of charging people for lessons

[sharp shuttle]

alright, then my next question is

do you feel like what you do requires meaning or else it simply is not worth doing?

[vivid flower]

No, i think its okay to have a craft you do for income, but if i'm going to be performing a craft i'm not going to do it if it benefits someone i don't agree with

Hence why usually i only take jobs for friends projects

[sharp shuttle]

Interesting, so who you work for is more important than the work itself?

[vivid flower]

Yes i am a believer in having a local friends economy and putting those friends first so we enrich each other before money flows out of the ingroup. Jews do the same thing

[sharp shuttle]

I get it

I actually tend to agree with you

I'd rather do communal favors personally

[vivid flower]

Like i just paid one of my friends 80 bucks to help me fix my cars coolant system and id sooner pay a friend than spend that at a shop

Where it just vanishes

I try to instill this idea in my friends because we collectively lack a sense for this

[molten bobcat]

I've been helping my disabled neighbor out

[vivid flower]

Thats good man im sure he appreciates you

So corporations right they suffer a tragedy of the commons

Why would i work as a mcslave if i could be helping a friend

[sharp shuttle]

To get to the point, I am thinking you are not someone who is going to command a room, and it seems like you have a lot to say. Soapboxing is probably not for you, after all.

I'd say you would suffer in coporate. I'd say you would suffer in blue team. I know you would suffer in red.

You developed a training platform. Why not move onto the next thing?

And if you are going to lecture on your ideas, just do it. Youtube is good. But you should probably learn some after effects and make shorts using the Monroe + rule of three method

[vivid flower]

I dont really know how to edit videos

[sharp shuttle]

Time to learn then?

[vivid flower]

I only ever used windows movie maker years ago lol

I guess

[sharp shuttle]

Appealing media under 1 minute is what builds audiences

Pagan ideals are probably going to hit well as we transition globally away from moderate politics and philosophies

you can really benefit from the opportunity.

[vivid flower]

I think so. It strikes me as kind of like that xkcd comic about there being 15 competing standards and then someone says im going to fix this situation and now there are 16 competing standards

[sharp shuttle]

that parallels into everything for sure

yesterday marked a unique landmark on the time domain for what is to come.

[vivid flower]

It just irks me that like right now people are just breaking down and tearing into each other and my gf has been abused by terrible people and those people became terrible because of the complete absence of direction in their lives. And the only alternatives our society has are golem or daddy issues

[sharp shuttle]

its a violence cycle, you should know that

[vivid flower]

Its more than that. We have had four phases of societal organization: the mother goddess paradigm when there was no conflict and agriculture focus, war based societies where the focus was on personal excellence (still the best weve done imo), then they started getting counter intuitive. Third phase is the empire phase where people self moderate out of guilt because society is now too large to get everyone personally involved and then the fourth phase of communism and despotism where those people without direction collectively decided to chimp out from their abandonment issues, harm everyone else and all the old knowledge was thrown out

We are at the question point how do we plot the fifth phase

Klaus schwab can write his stupid book about the fourth industrial revolution im talking about the fifth

I have been thinking at least part of it ought to coincide with the great work and some of the old hindu myths ive read but thats not really the same thing as an answer and neither are a lot of new agey documents put out in the last few years by half baked people throwing dead ideas against the wall

This is where we are dealing with creative matter and i spend a lot of time just trying to make the ideas come

This is kinda my struggle

Ive got all this prima materia and i cant shape it

And nobody knows what im even talking about usually and people like evola straight up say they arent even gonna try

He just dropped his testimony and dipped

But until we have scaffolding people wont have anything but to argue and blame each other

[toxic sandal]

Halftime update:
A group of friends in cybersecurity are having a deep, candid conversation about motivation, burnout, and life direction. tyc/IBIS feels disillusioned by the industry and frustrated that people take shortcuts instead of learning. He’s considering quitting his training site to focus on writing a book about pagan ethos and history. Brathadair/NERD acknowledges his intelligence but warns that books and ideas get lost in oversaturated markets. He advises doing a blog or YouTube lectures instead to gain traction. They talk about pen testing, work overload, and the difficulty of self-promotion. Ultimately, Brathadair encourages tyc to stop overthinking and take action, reminding him that time is limited and he believes in him.

[vivid flower]

Did you just ask an AI to give me advice lol

[worthy cargo]

Hahaha

[sharp shuttle]

Perhaps it would be easier to understand that based on "gold rushes"

So which ones have we had already? We can define these as times where absolutely poor people can become rich people.

Slave trade
Gold rush
dot com
app store
connected devices/apps (uber)
cloud computing
webapps
crypto
nft
rugpulls
EV's
AI

etc.

so ask yourself what is the next big thing? Because to me, I think two things happen.

A renaissance of human skills and craftsmanship

or robotics and space travel, which are outside of the realm of a poor person to contend with.

therefore, master your trade

[toxic sandal]

I asked Chatgpt to summarize bc I'm not reading all of that

[vivid flower]

Could be, ive got skills plural. Im getting officiated in doyle so i can become an instructor

[sharp shuttle]

Thats awesome man

and thats my point

[vivid flower]

About to get to the 2nd degree

[sharp shuttle]

passion is how you make money when i visualize big picture futures

you can be doomer or you can be great

[vivid flower]

Learned the rinka hane, 4 green fields and 1st gen blocks and a lot of other stuff

[toxic sandal]

Real question is how long do people say Easy/Medium/Hard boxes take? 4 hrs Easy, 8-12 Medium ?

[sharp shuttle]

however fast you can copy and paste from a write up tbh

[vivid flower]

Started doing broadsword fencing

[sharp shuttle]

my advice to you tyc is to not go hard on terminology/techniques or jargon about topics many people are not familair with, it drives them away

many of you folks do this often

[vivid flower]

And kali/escrima

Yeah i know

[sharp shuttle]

i have no idea what you are saying

[worthy cargo]

Depends on your skill and box difficulty, number of steps etc.

[vivid flower]

Oh about doyle? Its the cane fighting thing ive been doing

[sharp shuttle]

just like if i went on and on about flight stacks on drones and blade resonance, youd probably kiss your salamander

[vivid flower]

Those are names of doyle techniques

[sharp shuttle]

im aware of that much, and thats where you should leave it

this is what i heard

[vivid flower]

I just mean to say i dont just sit around and mope

[sharp shuttle]

"I like stick fighting, i am going to be an instructor"... then blah blah blah blah

and its not that i dont care

its i dont have time to get to your understanding

you have surpassed my ability to keep up on the topic

[vivid flower]

Well... the thing is some of my favorite authors write that way. Theyre all articulate all the time and they dont care who theyre talking to

[sharp shuttle]

you know what they say about people who dont care who they are talking to right?

[vivid flower]

So everything they say you can take the fine tooth comb to it and find references and in the process of googling you understand

No i see it as caring a lot

[sharp shuttle]

have you always felt that way?

[vivid flower]

We have a limited time on this earth and ill be dead before the time comes that i can say what i held back

Im all cylinders all the time. I have one speed and it's "GO"

[molten bobcat]

It's an ineffective method of communicating with other human beings

[vivid flower]

You're an ineffective listener

And you may be trampled underfoot, make way for someone with ears

[molten bobcat]

Surely it is everyone else's fault but my own

"may you be trampled underfoot" is a fucking insane thing to say to another human being lmao this isn't a Shakespeare play

[worthy cargo]

Over the course of our lives we hear things from others, and if we like it, we go and repeat the same things to others.

[sharp shuttle]

My goal for the rest of the year is to be pretty blunt with people I care about, and Tyc when you talk like that towards cloud if comes off as absurdly petty. It really suggests you are an ineffective communicator

[vivid flower]

People usually tell me the oppsite

[worthy cargo]

Oh you're talking to tyc

I have that guy on block.

[vivid flower]

I have you blocked too eggzy

[sharp shuttle]

You shouldn't have so much animosity towards cloud and if you really wanted to be a good faith communicator you would attempt to set aside your differences

[knotty nymph]

[sharp shuttle]

the absolute killer is that you both can learn alot from one another

[vivid flower]

I have in the past but i have taken that approach with a lot of people in my life and they never come around

Particularly with my stepmother

[sharp shuttle]

if i dont like someone, i ignore them into oblivion

ive seen you bring him into topics hes not even apart of

why do you do that?

[frail turtle]

I don't have you blocked @worthy cargo

[worthy cargo]

Getting a bit too dramatic in here!

@frail turtle you're great, man! np

[molten bobcat]

I just dislike the way he talks about other human beings. It feels disrespectful

[vivid flower]

Well to be honest i probably shouldnt do that.

[knotty nymph]

[vivid flower]

He takes so many digs at me that i sometimes do it back

[sharp shuttle]

I understand why Tyc talks the way he does though, and I know hes not trying to be mean. But with cloud, I do get a sense of pettiness and I just want to understand why

[molten bobcat]

I mean, he's screenshotted a very large amount of my messages to send to the moderation team and potentially others so like

[sharp shuttle]

Havent you done the same though?

[molten bobcat]

Yeah what's up with that

[knotty nymph]

When did general chat become an episode of Dr Phil?

[worthy cargo]

More like WWE ala southpark

Drama

[molten bobcat]

I was a moderator at the time

[frail turtle]

oh hey Brathadair's back

[sharp shuttle]

Im not back, im traveling

[knotty nymph]

It's a classic example of why soft skills in tech are crucial imo

[sharp shuttle]

This place is a warp drive on time

[molten bobcat]

Yeh

Makes the end of the day go faster

[worthy cargo]

I think I might stop the pentest path and start the soc path. I wanna see what that's about. I do enjoy soc/dfir challenges the most even above pentesting.

[sharp shuttle]

But cloud, I say this with sincerity, you have had your petty moments, and youve grown from them. We all have done some amount of growing here. But please help me understand this feud between you and Tyc

[molten bobcat]

Oh I called him out for calling people NPCs

[frail turtle]

That's honestly where most of the money is imo

[molten bobcat]

That's literally it lol

[sharp shuttle]

Is it?

[molten bobcat]

Yessir

[frail turtle]

idk

[molten bobcat]

That's about all I have in terms of complaints about the dude

[knotty nymph]

Do it brother! If you are feeling the dfir/soc stuff more then you'll go the hardest at it.

[frail turtle]

I dont know anything

[molten bobcat]

He treats other people like their lives aren't significant and I think that's wrong to do

[sharp shuttle]

I call people NPC's, because they are

[molten bobcat]

I hate that terminology

A lot

Every human life matters

[worthy cargo]

He was mean to me for no reason. Just started being mean to me and making fun of me so I blocked him.

I have no other reason.

I changed my avatar, and the dude even had something horrible to say about that.

[vivid flower]

Well, c1oud has said before that his well being is tied to the current political zeitgest and when a person is like that they fight with others not because they dislike them personally, but as a means of claiming territory and policing others. Many people left because of c1oud abusing his mod privileges and multiple people messaged me asking me to do something

[worthy cargo]

I'm sure tyc is a good person and a great guy

[molten bobcat]

I've also been accused of being antisemitic towards him

[worthy cargo]

I'm sure with his friends

[sharp shuttle]

And thats just it cloud, Tyc and I categorize similiarily, those terms communicate nuanced understanding, thats why it triggers people so much, but I am pretty confident neither of us is saying it to be mean directly, it is just a shortcut to explaining the classification.

[worthy cargo]

but it is what it is

[frail turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-meme-face-chips-cat-eating-gif-15310179217102583800

[molten bobcat]

And because apparently that's something I have to clarify fellas I have zero issue with Judaism and those who practice it

[sharp shuttle]

Alright so Tyc, do you feel cloud was abusive when he had mod? Is that what this boils down to?

[vivid flower]

I try to shred narratives and while c1oud probably thinks he's arguing with a right winger he doesnt really get that i'm not who he thinks he's arguing with and that i do actually want him to be my friend

[worthy cargo]

I have problem with every religion! They all ... fantasies of their own.

[frail turtle]

I never had a problem with C1oud even when he was a mod

[molten bobcat]

I don't think I'm arguing with a right winger. I think I argued with a guy who's insensitive to others feelings

[vivid flower]

Its just that few people are able to stop and appreciate the moment

[frail turtle]

We disagree about the sun though

[molten bobcat]

My answer to this was to literally step down as an example lmao

Now I hold no power over him

[vivid flower]

No

[sharp shuttle]

I would like to present an arbiters opinion between you two. You both are exceptionally empathetic. Tyc goes above it and it comes off as insensitive. Cloud you are certainly more in tune with your emotions regarding others.

[molten bobcat]

And also because it's hard being a mod

[sharp shuttle]

But I would say you are matched.

[frail turtle]

Yo but like think about it, if we had two suns

we could get double the power

[molten bobcat]

I don't care about whether or not we're friends I care about whether or not you treat folks with respect

[sharp shuttle]

Which is why i dont get the fighting.

[vivid flower]

Yeah i kinda see a lot of myself in c1oud like how i used to parse situations

[knotty nymph]

psh bro prolly thinks water is wet continues to argue about anything in a cyclical fashion to where no true heart felt answer gets determined

[sharp shuttle]

Tyc is not trying to be disrespectful

I dont get that from him

[vivid flower]

The thing is that all strength is derived from hard absolutes. You can be emotionally kind to someone but it undermines them to do that

[sharp shuttle]

I dont think you were so much abusive with power but overly emotional at times.

[molten bobcat]

It does not undermine anyone to be kind to them

[sharp shuttle]

I think Tyc is trying to say that some people take your kindness and exploit it

[vivid flower]

I have a friend who is very popular because they always say the comforting thing and tailor themselves to who theyre speaking to.... but objectively, they are impotent

Those things don't have to be mutually exclusive, but we live in a time with great amounts of illusion, aka Maya. And it eats people alive

I could say some things that would really hurt you too, Brath

But i wont and not here

Its not like i dont have my own problems

We're all in the same cauldron, being boiled alive

[sharp shuttle]

Well id prefer you lay it out if we are having a heart to heart

im very receptive

hanging my dirty laundry isnt going to hurt me

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/esquie-mon-ami-huh-calculating-gif-15072777769569231196

[worthy cargo]

Should I start with the Jr. Cybersecurity Analyst path or SOC analyst path? What is the opinion?

[vivid flower]

I dont really want to do that right now you can dm me if you really want me to

I go harder on my friends especially people i know can push

[sharp shuttle]

Yeah, im all for it

[molten bobcat]

The soc analyst path is nice so far

[worthy cargo]

Ok, I'll enroll in that one. I looked through the modules for the Jr. path and it's a bit too basic I think for me.

[sharp shuttle]

To full circle this, we are all flawed here and trying to navigate this industry and a more chaotic real world experience. Authenticity is going to make bonds stronger over petty drama-fueld bitch fits

With me, I prefer you just be real

I will be real with you. Even if you dont want it

[worthy cargo]

But don't keep it too real though.

[vivid flower]

Thank you it helps having someone to play arbitrator

[worthy cargo]

Cuz keepin it real can sometimes go wrong!

😄

[sharp shuttle]

Who cares

[worthy cargo]

REAL EYES. REALIZE. REAL LIES!

Hey dan

What's up my man

[sharp shuttle]

I am so sick of the artificial interactions i have in real life, id rather just get the pissing fight over with when i meet you so we can get past the fake alpha shit and be bros

[vivid flower]

I assume everyone has seen the news of the last few days?

[sharp shuttle]

Dude...

This is what im talking about

You gatta identify time and place

[vivid flower]

We dont have to talk about it

[worthy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-happy-dance-bird-word-gif-18848481

Beat you again!

😄

great minds think alike

[sharp shuttle]

Things should be unspoken, people in the know identify such events as genuinely profound moments in history, you know the mark of the end of moderate approaches has ended, we dont need to discuss it

[worthy cargo]

We are the Borg. Resistance is futile.

[frail turtle]

Because of my machiavellian personality I tend to read people a lot and know the right things to say to get them to favor me.

But the problem is I'm still machiavellian

[worthy cargo]

I'm in my mid 40s. I'm already tired of most drama and argumentation in life man.

If something costs me my peace, I cut it out

You and I both will find greats jobs soon man

no worries

just stay and stay positive

</The Streets>

oh no

I hope that goes through for you

And the budget cuts too

[molten bobcat]

My cat stalked me from behind the couch. I looked at him and he ran to the other end of the house.

Did I win?

[sharp shuttle]

You have three options friends.

1. Become a skilled and public face - John Hammond/Ippsec/etc.

2. Create the next big free tool

3. Be bad.

There are two groups of people - wanting money, no passion, the majority of people who chase rank here and pretend they dont buy write ups

and the people who do it out of passion for defending the future. Muster the energy to keep going in the face of the prior group, AI, offshoring, regulation, etc.

Pick your option and move on, dont strive to be a cog for money.

[molten bobcat]

It's me I'm bad

[alpine pumice]

4. Be born rich

[obtuse fern]

you know what

that's fair

[alpine pumice]

The fastest way to become a millionaire is starting out as a billionaire

[frail turtle]

mans put his soul into writingthat.

[worthy cargo]

The wealth disparity is ridiculous.

[obtuse fern]

wrong, this is why i go to the casino

[molten bobcat]

Yeh cuz you can just spend a dollar on gum

[terse dirge]

No sadly, I'll be 21 in November

[molten bobcat]

CHILD

[worthy cargo]

Wow

[molten bobcat]

FOOL

[worthy cargo]

I thought you were older, man

Word.

[molten bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-cursed-technique-blue-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-gif-4942924478761490276

[obtuse fern]

https://tenor.com/view/jayce-arcane-jayce-from-arcane-lola-bunny-league-gif-6847526654456236548

hell yeah brother

if you're in the southern states, it's a high praise tbh

deep fried oreos?

[worthy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/nicky-deep-south-gif-18814501

[obtuse fern]

Deep Fried Deep Frier?

[worthy cargo]

BTW

Little Nicky is free on youtube these days

[obtuse fern]

have you had deep fried ice cream? and is it decent?

'Murica

[frail turtle]

how do you fry ice cream what

[worthy cargo]

I can just HEAR my left ventricle slamming shut just by reading that!

[obtuse fern]

https://tenor.com/view/calgary-stampede-midway-food-snack-gif-3404721

[worthy cargo]

Don't you guy want to leave a little bit of room, you know... for the clot to travel swiftly to the brain?

[obtuse fern]

science really is amazing, iirc it's something to do with the leidenfrost effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_effect

[frail turtle]

o.O

I can't eat that stuff anymore but it is interesting

[vivid flower]

Don't be bad

[meager kernel]

Hello

[obtuse fern]

as a 'Murican, i'm here for a good time not a long time... Currently though not having a good time. J*b applications haunt my dreams

[frail turtle]

I will find a solution and give it to you

❤️

[obtuse fern]

i will find a way to skim money from banks, $5 a day they'll never know they've been robbed

what archetype do you typically fall into?

[frail turtle]

https://jobs.mchire.com/jobs?keyword=Crew member this is better though

[obtuse fern]

well i guess my question should have been what color(s) do you fall into and secondarily aggro or control

[frail turtle]

Im jk Marcie

for real though I'm gonna find an answer and give it to everyone here

[obtuse fern]

i will find your house and place a speaker playing the metal pipe sfx on loop with random intervals

red is super great at aggro, and gobbo tribals are good at "See this goblin? I'm now launching it at your face"

[stark blaze]

Why did I assume you were British

[obtuse fern]

This insult will not go unnoticed

I did not go into medical debt just to be called British

[frail turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-scary-tilt-head-glowing-eyes-dark-gif-17282481

https://youtube.com/shorts/MwOH0gzG4wc?si=z12WpsPfgo7FyJZ3 I had 2 customers talk like this today

[meager kernel]

Do you speak like "can I have a bo'lle of wa'er"?

[obtuse fern]

lol niet

i guess i'm just alive whenever most brits are online

[meager kernel]

You offer tutorship on HTB?

[obtuse fern]

currently only CPTS path

[silver forge]

oi do you have loicense for that

[flint copper]

yeah where's ur sword

[frail turtle]

Being a wagie is not as bad as the media makes it look

I remember reading this manga

where this guy

went from unemployed and being a NEET like I was

my age too

to working a minimum wage job and throwing all his money into a video game

[knotty nymph]

I have a Jeskai Hinata deck and mono blue Patron of the Moon 🌙 👀

[meager kernel]

Was it a manga based on you?

/jk

[frail turtle]

No I was nothing like the guy personality-wise in the manga

[meager kernel]

Good to hear that

[toxic sandal]

I remember being 12. Then I was in my 30s. I hope my kids don’t tell other kids I could beat their Dads up. I can’t. But I could take down their website or something

[frail turtle]

I was a NEET though

[meager kernel]

Isn't everyone at some point

[frail turtle]

I loved it though not gonna lie

[toxic sandal]

I don’t have TikTok. What is a NEET

[frail turtle]

No some people lose their lives in a career

[toxic sandal]

I just learned Uwuwuwu

[frail turtle]

NEET=Not in Eduction, Employment, or training

[toxic sandal]

Is that like saying “unhoused”?

[frail turtle]

for some people it is

IT's a lifestyle alright

a lifestyle that let's you really see how miserable people are...mostly.

[silver forge]

got to handle that cognitive dissonance somehow

[frail turtle]

you play video games at mom's house all day you apply for jobs, and after applying to 500 jobs, you realize that you were never the problem

[vivid flower]

Welcome to the NHK?

[frail turtle]

no lol

[vivid flower]

That show was the NEET killer but somehow it didnt age well

[frail turtle]

wait so some NEET person becomes a murderer?

[vivid flower]

No i mean the show is about the various copes a NEET goes through and it usually gets people to leave the lifestyle if they watch it

[frail turtle]

Ah

i guess that was the point of the manga

[vivid flower]

Which manga are you talking about? Because all of those things happen in welcome to the nhk

[frail turtle]

The thing is, like if you look at it from a philosophical perspective

you work your whole life at some job; then that job becomes your purpose. What? you thought you controlled your purpose? No your boss controlled it the whole time

[vivid flower]

Not me

[frail turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAK1VcjHD3A there was this short film made about it:

[vivid flower]

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.

[frail turtle]

errr I wasn't saying you specifically, just people in general

[meager kernel]

Tbh isn't that true with literally every job in the world

[vivid flower]

I know I just like to give responses

[frail turtle]

i mean you'll see what i mean if you watch the short film

[vivid flower]

And it's true I know a lot of guys who are allowing it to become their whole identity

[frail turtle]

i think it captivates the message perfectly

you sorta begin asking questions like, what is living?

[vivid flower]

To live is to pay rent, of course

And my Netflix subscription

[past latch]

I am become wagie, payer of rent

[vivid flower]

What is this short film, or manga or whatever it is? @frail turtle ill watch it

[frail turtle]

I posted it just before your poem

[vivid flower]

Oh i see it now watching it

[frail turtle]

I like your poem by the way 😄

[vivid flower]

Thanks its Invictus by William Ernest Henley

[silver forge]

In and out / In and out / that's what life's / all about

[alpine pumice]

the hokey pokey?

[silver forge]

• Londo Mollari, Babylon 5

[primal oracle]

hey guys, I just logged into HTB then I noticed my openvpn is online, but I just logged in

\

[silver forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJ2f8gotr0

[vivid flower]

Damn @frail turtle that hits pretty hard. A real gem i sent it to some friends

That's how I feel about a lot of this security stuff

[frail turtle]

yeah now you get why I was a NEET for almost 4 years

[vivid flower]

Ive explained how i operate just dont compromise have self respect and only do work you want to do

Friend circle is important

[frail turtle]

Now my whole plan is to work my ass off to become a NEET again

I'm goin back

[vivid flower]

Good luck fren

I would never be the man i am today if i had not been enabled by the people who have loved me for years

[silver forge]

I think only a fraction of neets ever succeed in getting out of it even if they try

I guess it's a respectable accomplishment of self control

[frail turtle]

The only reason

I even got out of it

was because I want a family.

[vivid flower]

I know neets who have committed relationships. But they have to take submissive roles and neets tend to have crippling self doubt

[silver forge]

I have no idea where I would be without her. Probably nowhere good. That's very understandable.

[tiny canyon]

yeah I dip my oreos so what cry about it

[silver forge]

depends what you dip them into. for example stratberry jam is good, as is mayonnaise.

[frail turtle]

this man puts oreos in mayonnaise

This is a fine man

[torn cedar]

I dip my waffles into sweet tea and eat them soggy

[frail turtle]

You are an evil person

shame on you

never speak of this foul sin every again

[static pasture]

I dont even eat oreos and this made me be like dafuq

[soft fern]

Bros got more game than me😔

[warped plank]

Sorry what...?

[maiden anvil]

yemen uap look it up

aliens are real

they're here

the gov knows

and they are trying

to cover it up

they're scared of what the world

could do

with this knowledge

[dusky jacinth]

Okay that one hits different

Get it

[muted olive]

whats that?

[soft fern]

I'm sorry, did I read this correctly?

[devout sail]

Something like useless person who doesn't study or work

UD says
Definition: Another acronym from sociologists... NEET stands for 'Not in Education, Employment or Training'. I'm not sure, yet, whether it has any global significance or derogatory overtones. However, like chav, it seems to be particularly applicable to a social under-class lacking drive, motivation or ambition. I part this is due to poverty and lack of opportunity. But this burgeoning classification will soon become the darling of right-wingers.

[sly grotto]

yo

guys i'm looking for some help, tried google but didn't found any answer
I'm trying to connect with vpn using anyconnect, i think it let me connect there. but the connection drops it self in like 1 sec right after the connect established
i don't know if someone has faced the same problem or not in kali linux OS

[alpine pumice]

Sounds like a full tunnel vpn

[fathom talon]

could someone please help me and teach me how to complete the modules im only really on the introductions and have no clue how to do it could someone possibly hop on a call and help me? I dont know if there is a channel for this to ask for help.

[green kite]

#modules

Don’t ask to ask either. Just say what module and section name you’re stuck on

[sly grotto]

yes

[alpine pumice]

Yeah well that's why. Your anydesk session disconnects because the target's Internet connection changes the route.

Just wait a bit and reconnect with Anydesk

[sly grotto]

it was working like last to last year but now it's giving the problem

[sly grotto]

anydesk? it's cisco anyconnect

[sly grotto]

and i'm waiting for like 1 year

[alpine pumice]

oh lol i thought you said anydesk

look at the logs then see why it's dropping

[sly grotto]

that i'm trying to but in ui it's not generating the logs only showing request it's making seems it time to use all mighty weapon wireshark.

[obtuse fern]

https://tenor.com/view/scammer-scam-redeeming-whyareyouredeeming-kitboga-gif-19964723

[sly grotto]

connection is successful but once it build the connection for some reason it kill itself. Because of sso it's even hard.

[vivid flower]

The NEET life is the sweet life...

働いたら負け

[subtle plover]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-linus-tech-tips-meme-linux-linus-sebastian-linus-gif-25622997

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-epic-homies-gif-9521752892117213032

[humble rain]

I remembered my first-ever hack: I was maybe about two or three at the time, and I basically bumped a simple lock at a daycare I was at because I wanted to play on the computers in the "big kid" area.

[next venture]

Go outside and touch the grass

[subtle plover]

How dare you say that

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-6891886407904187638

[next venture]

[sly grotto]

not handy

[sly grotto]

ok then let the grass touch you then

[subtle plover]

@hoary nebula @lilac cipher @green kite

They are bullying help

@scenic maple @terse dirge @devout sail

[sly grotto]

😮‍💨

[subtle plover]

Pls help

https://tenor.com/view/pepo21-gif-14567720388801801265

[devout sail]

[next venture]

[scenic maple]

[next venture]

go to sleep

[scenic maple]

[next venture]

It's over for you bongbing

[subtle plover]

When i get cyber bullied i just turn of computer

[terse dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/pookie-ping-cell-gif-656134001799484553

[crimson hull]

Hey.
I've been trying to get a student subscription but the payment is being declined.
I've tried multiple cards.