#halo-the-series-chat

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timid ether
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But also you can rate something 3/5 and like it. It's too close for anyone to listen to any of the sides. The ones that like it or the ones that don't.

tawdry kestrel
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What season you on?

tawdry kestrel
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Ah you past Chorus then.
The best part.

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Yep I started this show exactly one month ago

minor python
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Definitely not saying you can't like it. Just be expecting a very average/meh show with that aggregate

alpine nexus
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60% on metacritic is really bad

minor python
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It is. And this is probably the score including the paid reviews. It's pretty clear that paramount/CBS is actively trying to remove reviews so I don't doubt at all the extra step was taken to fluff it up

timid ether
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Paid Reviews, actively removes Reviews. Bruh. That tinfoil hat is strong with you

cosmic willow
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damn not gonna lie, thats beautiful keep it up man

spring raptor
buoyant moth
idle pawn
dark storm
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Haha I'm tempted it's pretty cool

dark storm
# alpine nexus 60% on metacritic is really bad

Make up your mind for yourself, but critically the show is doing alright, the audience scores being review bombed but the reviewer score is 70% right now. Show isn't perfect it has a lot of things to improve on but personally I don't think it's bad. I think they're hitting some of the stuff pretty well. I think the acting does a lot of the heavy lifting for me

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My hope is they'll take a lot of lessons into Season 2 and Season 1 will continue to improve as the plot unfolds.

cosmic willow
minor python
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Yeah, there been copyright striking YouTube reviews, making people fight them

glossy pike
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I hope they genuinely kill off the asian chick, her and her resistance talk really drag the show into the mud

paper belfry
barren lichen
jaunty tulip
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master cheeks

tawdry kestrel
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I wish they had made it kinda like the halo 2 cut scenes part covenant part unsc

paper belfry
heady halo
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Nice posters

desert gyro
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Vinsher did nothing wrong. His alliance with the UNSC will not only ensure unity within the human race but also allow them, as a species, to collectively turn their attention towards and address the much larger threat the Covenant poses to all of them. Kwan is nothing more than an insurrectionist in the making - one who threatens to destabilise that alliance and endanger humanity in the process. And as it turns out, her father who she idolises was nothing more than a nutcase who got high one day with some "mystics" in the middle of some desert and was suddenly convinced that he needed to fight the UNSC. The show's portrayal of Vinsher as the bad guy and Kwan as some kind of underdog hero is just, SO aggravating.

heady halo
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I thought Kwan was a terrible choice to add

desert gyro
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The amount of times the show cuts to her subplot made me wanna commit head-desk

heady halo
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And the fact she was the one who made Master Chief remove his helmet makes me hate her even more

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Pointing a gun at him and boom

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HELMET REMOVED

desert gyro
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I will also argue that Vinsher's execution of high-profile individuals from Kwan's father's movement was a tactically sound one. In such critical circumstances, you NEED to remove people who may disrupt the peace and incite a rebellion against you. Especially when you have the threat of the Covenant looming over your head. Although tbf, the show has done a poor job of portraying the direness of the Human-Covenant War.

civic pelican
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@desert gyro You do understand why there was an insurrection right? Please tell me you understand why there was an insurrection in the first place....I'm not saying I agree with them but the outer colonies were being taken advantage of by the inner colonies. Mining their resources so that the inner colonies could maintain their "Have" lifestyle. That was why they were rebelling, they wanted more autonomy from the inner colonies and the ability to enjoy the spoils of their planets vs sending away all of their natural resources... Vishner's methods are akin to a despotic ruler, all he's missing is the double lightning bolts on his collar and the mustache. This show is a travesty in representing the conflict between the insurrectionists and the UNSC. (amongst other things)... The Covenant War interrupted this conflict as it was the greater of the two threats...YMMV

stray fog
civic pelican
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of course it is. the current state of affairs being a great example...but the show is saying that we need a despotic ruler to make all of humanity united....uh..what?

visual loom
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Why is it that Paramount and the showrunners of Halo the Series executed this show so poorly, and yet the Sonic 2 movie, also made by Paramount, turned out to be not only true to the source material, but has solidified itself as the absolute best movie adaptation of a video game in the history of both movies and video games?

rotund hamlet
visual loom
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I'm not ashamed.

rotund hamlet
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It's such an incredibly departure from the source material than every single continuity to date

visual loom
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Well yeah. But more was true than not. Sonic being from another planet, rings being able to transport people like in the games (special stages), Sonic himself having the spindash and homing attack, and almost everything in the Sonic 2 movie was just so true to the games.

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As far as i've seen, the Halo show is as far from the games as possible.

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It's like they wanted to make a sci-fi show, so they just used the Halo IP as a shell. A backdrop. A false pretense to pull in viewers.

rotund hamlet
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Halo's "Source material" is far more than what the games portray and the show, though a bit shaky, daring to explore the Insurrectionist/UNSC confict right off the bat was a bold move

visual loom
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Maybe, but they didn't even get MC's character right. Even you should be able to see that.

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He is a character. He's not 'robotic'. He's just blank and clean enough so that players can put themselves in his shoes. But he has obvious personality traits that make him his own person.

elder nexus
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What was that one characters name? She was complaining about the unsc when their at war with the covenant

visual loom
elder nexus
visual loom
elder nexus
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Her character is annoying

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Yeah covenant are killing us. im going to complain about the military for no reason

verbal fox
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Annoying is an understatement

timid ether
visual loom
# timid ether can you please explain MCs Character to me?

Master Chief is professional, determined, and reserved. He's the kind of guy that prefers actions over words. He doesn't have any interests other than whatever mission he's been assigned. He respects the chain of command and more than understands his role and where he stands. Even so, he's far from mindless, and will only disregard direct orders for what he believes is the greater good, or for the sake of his conscience. And while most, if not all of these qualities are present within the show, I was talking about his past and relationship with Halsey.

timid ether
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got ya

elder nexus
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Both are true

verbal fox
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Words that will augment annoying and terrible

barren lichen
desert gyro
# civic pelican <@497421301431009290> You do understand _why_ there was an insurrection right? ...

With respect, my messages had nothing to do with why there's an insurrection. I was moreso addressing the way the show portrays Kwan's little quest to restart the rebellion as some kind of heroic act in a time where unity between the Insurrection and the UNSC is paramount. And no, I do not know the exact specifics of why the insurrection occurred, and as you have pointed out, it is something that the show has failed to convey.

civic pelican
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Everyone is the hero of their own story.

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Heinlein quote: "Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this in mind, it may offer a way to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate"

verbal fox
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Well not every story is worth telling. Kwan's is beyond worthless

civic pelican
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@verbal fox no argument there. I can't stand her either.

robust marsh
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What is so frustrating to me about the lackluster insurrectionist plot and I guess silver timeline as a whole, is that the books gave 343 a massive head start on what to adapt into either a game or show. They could have whole cloth taken the most popular stories and been true to source material, which would have respected the insurrectionists plot better than the Kwan Ha "story" and they could have expanded to other spartans like Gray Team who have background in that area.

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I cannot agree with anyone who thinks doing something different is good just because it's new. Some stories are better than others and other aren't worth telling at all.

minor python
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I mean you can judge it on it's own. That's what I was doing up until episode 3. Within it's own story it sucks.

robust marsh
minor python
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Im totally fine with it being it's own 'thing,' looking at DC and Marvel who's all over the place in quality. Bad stuff gets axed after so long

robust marsh
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Thats true. But i guess i take issue with having access to home run caliber stories and deciding against that. A lot of people didn't read the novels, so it would be fresh to many and I am pretty certain people who did read them would love to see them in live action.

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It's similar to Disney and Star Wars imo. They retconned all the lore and took the story in a worse direction 🙏🏼 just my opinion

minor python
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I read a lot of the novels. Kinda of fifty-fifty on them in regards to quality. Kilo-5 trilogy was amazing though, along with Ghosts of Onyx

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I loved Silva's take against Halsey with the S3's. Saying that willpower always trumps genetics. Then Vaz's judgement of Hallsey, almost blowing her head off. And nobody there was going to stop him.

robust marsh
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I agree. haha they were not all at the same level. Thats why it would be easy for them to see which were most popular and such. Don't adapt the lesser ones

minor python
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To me, more recent Halo lore seems to love the 'UBER HUMAN' aspect. Even with this story. The special GENES. The SPECIAL ONE

robust marsh
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I cant stand that

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I rather a story of grit and human reflection like in Ghosts of Onyx

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Thats my Favorite

minor python
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Chief straight up respected that Staff Sergeant who made it halfway through the library. Had he been a Spartan, he very well could of gotten father

robust marsh
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That was such a good addition that wasnt in the game.

minor python
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It was!

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I mean at this point, I'd rather have Atriox lose at the hands of Cutter. If the chief is involved. Cool. Chief could kill the Brute as part of Cutter's planning

robust marsh
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Thats a good idea. Cutter started it and it would be cool if he finished it

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Anyways, gotta get to work, Nice chatting with you

minor python
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Yeah. Just. So much missed opportunity is the point I'm getting at as well =\

tawdry kestrel
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It is quiet simple, in the battle of Chief vs Atriox, Chief will start to loose and when the Monke is about to finish him off all you hear is the muffled
OD-ODS-OD-O-OD-ODSTs in the tubes! Before like 20 pods slam into Atriox

fallen jewel
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Atriox isn't getting killed off. Not anytime soon.

heady halo
rotund hamlet
runic wind
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IMO it kinda sucks that Atriox is a main villain. I just find him kinda bland

rotund hamlet
runic wind
tawdry kestrel
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Sucks that he got capped 20 minutes into the game

runic wind
rotund hamlet
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I once read a "Rewriting Halo 5" blog post that gave him the fate of self-imposed exile somewhere

runic wind
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“Remember all that cool stuff we set up, forget it!”

rotund hamlet
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IIRC it had to do with one of his sons and reflecting on how he was triggered by ONI into becoming a fanatic

tawdry kestrel
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I thought his son joined the Servants out of revenge not ONI?

runic wind
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Sucks that jul got killed off too

tawdry kestrel
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Every Halo enemy get's shanked pretty quickly as of late.

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Except that Rebel Rogue SIV chick, she's still around.

cobalt pagoda
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Do y'all think a Show that centers Silver team only would be entertaining ? I don't know why but Riz and Vannak juxtaposed with Kai makes for such an interesting story to me.

runic wind
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Yeah, I feel like a show not centred on chief could be more interesting?

cobalt pagoda
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Also does anyone think the film equilibrium inspired the emotion suppressors we see ?

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When I see Vannak and Riz I feel like I'm seeing more of what I expect from these Spartans here. Kai going through these emotions is way more interesting than chief to me and I think centering Kai whilst leaving Chief as a Legendary seldom seen but intense character could have been better received

minor python
minor python
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Also John is a Spartan. John Spartan is the main character of demolition man. Yay nods to other sci fi

cobalt pagoda
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The reason why I kinda gravitated towards Equilibrium was because Chief big break off moment from the UNSC in ep 1 was because of the order to Kill Kwan, same as in Equilibrium when the break off was because of an ordered killing of an innocent

cobalt pagoda
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I just wish Kwan was fleshed out better so I could care about her journey more

minor python
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Yeah there's some other sci Fi movie that took place in the 80s or 90s that Bungie based the Spartan program after. They rounded up a bunch of kids to make them super soldiers

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I can't think of the title at the moment but it was just such an obvious source of influence

cobalt pagoda
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I know Johnson was based off a character in Aliens , that's all I know for references

minor python
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....wow that was easy. Kurt Russell in Soldier. Came out in 1998

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Took a bunch of kids, trained them, genetically enhanced them to fight rebels

cobalt pagoda
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Ohh yeah I remember that one, and he got thrown away with garbage on that planet

little spindle
minor python
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lol CBS has tried to copyright claim a review of episode 4 five times.

dreamy thicket
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I’m not going to lie episode 2 was the worst

minor python
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Yeah

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Corpos gonna corporate

neon plover
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Is the new episode out yet?

verbal fox
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68 more minutes

neon plover
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Well, I'm formatting my PC, so I'm not going anywhere for a while 🥲

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I'm gonna go make some soup

dusky nova
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New ep's out, Merty.

narrow whale
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Why can’t I see episode 5 on Apple TV

wintry pelican
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It's not out for me yet for some reason

narrow whale
wintry pelican
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What? amazon?

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It feels like they forgot to put it on

mighty skiff
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The last half of that episode…. Awesome

narrow whale
wintry pelican
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its out now

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Canada

mighty skiff
narrow whale
neon plover
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(And I'd rather go to bed than watch the episode, I'll have a lot of time tomorrow)

dusky nova
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How does Windows fail to create a partition what

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Error code 0x80004005
This problem may occur if a file that the Windows Product Activation (WPA) requires is damaged or missing. This behavior occurs if one or both of the following conditions are true:

A third-party backup utility or an antivirus program interferes with the installation of Windows XP.

A file that WPA requires is manually modified.
  • From Microsoft
neon plover
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Now I've got this little nuisance...

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I want to go to sleep so badly

dusky nova
verbal fox
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Oof, this turned into Windows help

tawdry kestrel
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Good thing Cortana is a windows product so it's all related

plucky rock
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i came here to know one thing

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was the halo series a success or a failure

tawdry kestrel
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Well it's entertaining

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idle pawn
glacial widget
idle pawn
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honestly the reception of the show from game fans is pretty similar to the Witcher tv series season 1 got from book fans (to a lesser extent from game fans).

glacial widget
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Especially in season 2

timid ether
# glacial widget Especially in season 2

in the end the games aswell as the show is just loosely based on the books. having like f.e. a cat school in the game where ciri is part of. that didnt existed in the books. basically both witcher games and witcher series is a reimagination.

glacial widget
timid ether
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thats fair

silver mauve
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What time does it come out?

verbal fox
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Its out right now

heady halo
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Ok I will admit

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Episode 5 was better than the rest

verbal fox
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Yeah cause it had action, lmao

heady halo
dark storm
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That was solid

austere vortex
civic pelican
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I couldn't see it until 3am eastern...<shrug> it's available now.

tawdry kestrel
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Ok remind me what’s up with the CGI? I don’t see anything wrong with it

cobalt pagoda
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Can we can talk about spoilers for the episodes here ?

mild owl
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why is master chief such an a-hole

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was he like that in the books

verbal fox
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hole?

little anvil
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Why not read the books yourself? Its not like its hard to find a copy of Fall of Reach

glacial widget
verbal fox
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Even a few days into it, until Chief Mendez taught him a valuable lesson

little anvil
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No steak and ice cream for you John

glacial widget
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Why does everyone think Tartarus is atriox

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So many people are definitely post 3 fans

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Because anyone who has played the first 3 games knows that’s Tartarus

little anvil
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Cause a lot of people never played 2? The games not exactly new, you gotta remember the fanbase stretched for 20 years

verbal fox
verbal fox
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Character: Coughs
Viewers: "ITS THE FLOOD!!! AJDHNWJDB!"

glacial widget
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I just love how they had the clone detail

verbal fox
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Keep: That
Remove: Free Will

glacial widget
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I’m talking about Jon not cortana btw

rose parrot
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I’ll take shorter episodes than watching Kwan

tawdry kestrel
steep osprey
verbal fox
tawdry kestrel
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Yeah but he cool tho but errors were made

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Halo infinite new game mode are looking dope tho

verbal fox
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Its a common trend, idk why. People are too hopeful

tawdry kestrel
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I just watched a video on it

verbal fox
idle pawn
narrow whale
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Where is episode 5 wtf

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It literally just dropped for me. Tf

little spindle
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Yo new episode has some good stuff in it

forest scroll
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Yo Episode 5 was SO the best episode yet. It truly felt like Halo for those of you who don’t like the direction the TV show is taken. You’ll at least like this

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The Action was so brutal and fun to watch and it was relevant to the story. Master Chief was truly Chief even if it is Pablo

rotund hamlet
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Like, it's just a random loser alien that went serial slasher in the galaxy to the point the rings had to be used

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That'll be totally deep and nuanced

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/sarcasm/

upper cobalt
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does anyone know if they are going to have a mid season break?

summer mauve
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Anyone with 5.1 system find it incredibly hard to hear what anyone is saying when they put the helmets on?

latent seal
wraith niche
keen wyvern
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all i really want is just master chef tbh

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do we know if the show is canon? (if so when does it take place?)

steep osprey
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The Kai dynamic during the combat was pretty interesting to see. The visuals they made from her view of the battle was brutal

rose parrot
wraith niche
spring raptor
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Yooo

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The last epidose was greaaaaat

silent idol
silent idol
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The silver timeline is the timeline where the show takes place. Some events and characters are different than the one in the Halo games, like Miranda Keyes being a scientist in the show.

warm umbra
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Wish they had more classic halo theme music

little spindle
blissful shore
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ididnt ecxpet nudity n the epi 2

plush fiber
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This episode was great imo. The tension between chief and Halsey was amazing lol

heady halo
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Out of all for this episode

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8/10 because it’s better than the rest

rotund hamlet
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Can people now stop complaining about how the show isn't dark and gritty? We've seen more non-flood gore here than all the other games combined now

hasty sedge
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Took five weeks for a proper covenant battle, not a great thing

verbal fox
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13 minutes of heavy action and gore, out of about 5 hours of TV. That's a really bad ratio

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That's like saying Up is a sad movie because it spends a few seconds on a miscarriage and the death of his wife

little anvil
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Up is a sad movie cause its made by Disney lmao. OTHER kinda sad.

rotund hamlet
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Disney-Pixar's Emotional Manipulation
only in theaters

hasty sedge
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Funny enough, bet the show would have had a bigger following, had this been thr first episode

little anvil
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I mean, Im sure it was a good movie. I just...stopped liking anything Disney touches ages ago.
I hoped Star Wars would be different. I was wrong.

hasty sedge
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Disney went meh when they ditched 2d animation

little anvil
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Atlantis was POG

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So was Treasure Planet

rotund hamlet
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There should be a term for the age of mixed 2D/3D animation films of the late 90s/early 2000s

hasty sedge
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@little anvil why you make me wanna cry with those two wonderful movies

little anvil
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Because you must understand my pain

hasty sedge
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Both movies deserved better

little spindle
median anvil
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anybody know the trick to screenshot a cell phone viewport window when your watching like paramount+, or netflix.
master Chief looks impeccable in the live action armor they made

knotty tendon
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Just watched Episode 4 and I’m convinced the writers are nudits

median anvil
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I love how they have portrayed cortans they did it perfectly in episode 3!!

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as a long time halo fan I freaking love this show. though it was a bit creepy when they made cortana, they even got her humor right.
I'm just finishing building my water cooled 1000D obsidian corsair build, I think I wanna play halo infinite again when I'm not playing elden ring for mp fps fix 👍

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and I haven't played halo since January school started

woeful pulsar
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yo finaly a grunt drives a warthog

vapid plank
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Bro I want this Asian chick killed or something it’s the only cringe thing ab the whole show 😅

woeful pulsar
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lol

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she isnt even in most of the episodes so whats the point of her

vapid plank
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To cry ab her rebel dream that the rebels don’t even care about😂

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And jakals with energy swords bro that should be added to games

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Brutes got dat big daddy energy

timid ether
tawdry kestrel
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Same reason Infinite didnt

vapid plank
woven prairie
quartz cape
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i just got into this halo show and i already enjoying it

urban hornet
tawdry kestrel
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Oh I meant the use of old OG trilogy tracks in Infibite

urban hornet
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Oooh right right

tawdry kestrel
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Alas I think the new duo did rather well.
Maybe Salvadore could come back too for some tracks

quartz cape
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tbh idk why pp think the halo show is bad they just hating on it

urban hornet
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The action is great and to see Spartans running along side a warthog in a firefight and plasma cutting down people like in the books is awesome

quartz cape
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so my question bout the show does take place from the games or the book?

cunning star
tawdry kestrel
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The Halo show wins this years sci-fi productions scenery for the sole reason of having something called depth perception.
Unlike SW shows.

agile stirrup
tawdry kestrel
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That's dialogue, I mean like scenery.
The background, set-pieces and so on.

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It was god-awful in Boba Fett and Kenobi doesn't look much better.

cunning star
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They definitely did a great job. Actually i love the spartan armor and how its not over the top using cgi etc

cunning star
agile stirrup
tawdry kestrel
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Nope, I meant the literal scenery.
The prompts, armor and locations are miles ahead of SW for now. Even if they aren't exactly Halo like.

dreamy sundial
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The last 15 minutes were really cool

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And i wanna see what's going to happen between MC and Halsey next episode.

slow bridge
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So not only do we have mastercheeks for a few episodes now cheif completely breaks character and has a crying fit about Halsey!? And decides to attack her...and people think this is good writing

warm umbra
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Original Chief vs Silver timeline Chief, NOW.

slow bridge
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Cheif is Cheif and we have this emotional guy pretending to be cheif it's just weird

runic wind
slow bridge
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OK so Silver timline cheif is emotionally unstable?

obsidian flume
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Idk if I were in that position, found out the person who I trusted for years, and literally has been constantly lying to me, kidnapped me from my real parents while they were alive, and found out the “enhancements” they gave me were really suppression augments to keep the truth from me, I would logically feel emotionally damaged to the point of rage and anger at that person. Halsey suppressed the emotions since the Spartans were kids not surprising the lack of proper emotional development of a human translated into violent aggression when the emotional suppressant was removed and more truth came to light. That’s why kids should have emotional development allowing them to express emotions. You keep anyone in the dark for an extended period of time, it is only natural they want to seek more light when they are finally exposed to it. Oppression translates to violence always. His reaction seems natural and I didn’t see any break in character.

slow bridge
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Um I hear you guess I'm used to Master Cheif having his act together and not being damaged goods. You make a good point, but brings me to thought of why would you do this to a well established ip and well developed character?

obsidian flume
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And that’s a valid question that has a simple answer. Halo the brand is a great brand. So the answer is money. It’s adequate entertainment with an actual level of realism instead of the constant stream of fantasy that Halo the game is.

The game character chief isn’t very developed. They are stunted and liner and only cares about the mission because they don’t know any better. I’m sure if you told the video game chief about his past, he wouldn’t believe it and just keep on as programmed. People fail to see what the shows purpose is, and that’s money. Take it at face value and you won’t have a problem with it. It’s not like the game chief is going to die out and they won’t make anymore games. Allow two separate entities to exist. Conflict arises when you are only trying to allow one. The developers of the show were upfront with the fans. It’s different and they said it would be and it is. But it is natural to compare so I get it. But my suggestion to the fans disappointed by the show is to take it at face value and stop being upset that the show producers and writers told you the truth that it was different from the games.

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The lore in the games is very developed but chief isn’t.

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What I personally am looking forward to is Halseys inevitable emotional breakdown over her perfect experiments being affected by the unknown variables she couldn’t plan for but inadvertently caused. I hope she blows up her lab, kills her creepy assistant and then becomes Darth Vader.

warm umbra
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Original Chief would win anyways

robust marsh
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Chief and Halsey is a stupid path to go down. We don't need emotional Chief as the books handled it in a more mature well rounded way. But the writers obviously like drama. These changes are just going to spiral into more changes while people defend it as "new timeline". It isn't the story that built the franchise and that lack of respect for what made Halo is going to kill the appeal in the long run. It's becoming unwatchable imo, the only saving grace is the fight scene that took five episodes to get to.

obsidian flume
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I could be biased but I like it all. Books shows games it’s all good in their own ways. But my real name is John so like I said Biased.

robust marsh
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Thats fine, I am not against you liking it. Parts of the show are great, but imo the negatives far outweigh the positives.

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Hollywood is incompetent when it comes to thoroughly made stories nowadays. I remember having the same feeling about Star Wars Episode 8, that i am having now about Halo. I knew there would be a "buyers remorse" after 4-6 months because it fundamentally changed the existing story. I think this will be the same.

smoky ether
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Yeah ep 2-4 were slow. That intro in episode 1 was amazing compared to everything imo

obsidian flume
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And that’s fair. I can see all sides. It makes money so until it doesn’t it’s not going to stop.

And in their defence they messed up bad with the original sonic look and changed it. So I am sure they will listen to the fans and I expect season 2 to be better over all. I’m just glad they were upfront telling us it’s gonna be different then just rolling it out. I agree is it slow. They are trying to do a lot at once and probably shouldn’t have. But now that all of those worlds are colliding I’m sure the remaining episodes will hopefully be better overall.

robust marsh
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I tentatively agree

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haha,I dont trust them is the thing.

obsidian flume
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But to be clear, Star Wars is like pizza. Even bad star wars is still decent to eat at least once.

Halo does have me worried slightly. I can agree. But I like the Halsey they developed and like I said I can’t wait for her breakdown. Something will eventually have to snap. I’ll be in the ride till that happens.

robust marsh
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Eh, I dont agree with that. The sequels actively made the originals pointless. Undoing character arcs, and even bringing back the big baddy that they "saved" the galaxy from. It was visually stunning, but the story, choreography and legacy are subpar in comparison

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Halo on the other hand is sidestepping it all. Subverting audience expectations is only good every once and a while, but in this case it feels like they are doing it to get out of having to use their brains and adapt lore

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This is just one of many franchises this has happened to, so i was kind of expecting it. Up next is LOTR *sigh

obsidian flume
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I never said it was good just saying you should watch it once and it won’t really kill you. But star wars is a different animal that has so many more characters, lore, and has the strongest fan base of any sci-fi operas ever created. So even the slight comparison between the two is apples to oranges to me, even on the most basic scale, or even the tiniest comparisons and honestly they should only be compared to themselves not to each other.

I mean if you say “halo series master chief is different from game and here is why…” not many people will care.

But if you say “Luke had a thing for leia.” Then get ready to die on a hill.

robust marsh
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Sure, the fanbases are different, I am not disagreeing with that. Its the division created by the subversion of the original storylines that are the same.

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Halo is still pretty young when it comes to the fanbase.

obsidian flume
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Maybe and maybe not. I think the series is too much in its infancy even with the changes they made at the moment.

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But Luke did have a thing for leia… they kissed no amount of Rey and Ben can change that.

robust marsh
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We can agree to disagree. I think there will be longtime fan departures that tune out. I am one of them, the show isn't good enough on its own and even worse when compared to its predecessor.

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Haha, that is TRUE!

obsidian flume
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I do wish it was better but my curiosity is still peaked. Thanks for the discussion it’s good to talk stuff out on discord without eruptions happening haha

robust marsh
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haha, same, its nice to exchange thoughts

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lol, I should probably get to work 😬

obsidian flume
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Sames until our paths cross again. Probably next week haha

little anvil
jolly bronze
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"I know how the game is played Cortana"

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i laughed out loud at that

jaunty oasis
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CGI was much better in this ep than in ep 1. The whole battle scene was great.

runic wind
slow bridge
slow bridge
# obsidian flume Maybe and maybe not. I think the series is too much in its infancy even with the...

They could have just copied Reach (game) and fans would have loved it, but jumping into cheifs feelings shpuld have been in a few seasons not season one they created such a divide and now are in damage control. They keep manually striking youtubers who leave a negative review, see angry Joe's vids on this point. Then they are actively deleting negative comments on social media to try and create a "everyone loves this show" vibe and it isn't working.

cobalt pagoda
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What the Halo series is missing for me is a sense of danger and heroism imo. If the show is my first intro to Halo then why would I root for chief, silver team or the UNSC at all ?

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Soren would make more sense to be the center piece in this story.

obsidian flume
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Why do something that has been done before? There is no money in that. New innovative other words that have direct ties to marketing and influx of income matters not “they just made a show out of the reach game and games complained about the small differences still” would have been the logical outcome. At least most fans are not divided and the motive is clear on the series.

slow bridge
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Um the show as it is right now is basically every tv show coming out. It's like they have cw cookie cutter and using it

obsidian flume
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And they do. Same with houses but they are still functional and can build profit. I’m just saying that the motive is money and new > old in terms of what Hollywood prefers. I’m not disagreeing with you I think it would be a cool show if based on Halo Reach, though I don’t work for “them” I know the motive is new not something that has already been done. It’s not Adam Sandler doing Mr Deeds.

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Btw I love Mr Deeds it’s funny af

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Especially for series and TV specifically new > old

slow bridge
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But this show isn't making money from how it is going when you start censorship negative reviews and comments thats usually an indicator of how bad its going

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I love it too

obsidian flume
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Oh it’s making money. And being subsidised from Sonic 2 (which was awesome) trust me they make money on it.

slow bridge
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If viewership was good they wpuld be promoting that not hiding it. But I feel part of problem is to many streaming services now

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I just don't think they are

obsidian flume
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They are promoting it. They are promoting the hell out of it. But it’s targeted promotion. They know the people who will watch it and they target them to watch it. I see it on Facebook and twitter which is main promos and they are paying for the promo spots.

slow bridge
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The view numbers? Last I read 4.9 mil for episode one that's pretry terrible

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And Facebook they are scrubbing negative comments they got ratioed alot and started censorship

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But for me there isn't enough draw to pay for another service and I got paramount just for halo and already canceled

steep osprey
slow bridge
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It was one article after release and I'm suffering from chemo brain so memory not best, but do remeber reading that number as far as censorship look up angry Joe talking about it on YouTube. For other media platforms people have it "archived" the comments being taken down

hollow bridge
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finally getting around tonwatching episode 2

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Its alright. I think the only part that was weird was the crazed covenant man

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granted not sure what he went through on the covenant ship

little anvil
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It wasnt going to underperform no matter what though cause its on a streaming service
They dont get direct money from the show itself, they get money through the service.

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You cant really loose money on that.

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Even if the result is someone buying a 1 month sub just to watch the first episode and then never touching it again, thats still a 1 month sub.

obsidian flume
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I’m saying we also don’t see what paramount or any other company is affiliated with the project sees. I’m pretty sure they haven’t made their money back, being half way into the season, but viewership is half the battle. They know how the game is played. I’m sure they will break even. The point of first season of any streaming show or tv show in general is trying something. Experiment. And Halo is a safe bet to try something because there is a long lore history and fan base. Even if they make the fans mad, the fans will watch it. They might not be a season 2 but it won’t be classified as a failure.

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Orca gets it yeah.

hollow bridge
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theres gonna be a season 2

little anvil
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Well they already confirmed Season 2 so.
Season 3 might be questionable, but then again, look at Forward Unto Dawn.

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When it came out the fan rage was IMMENSE. I remember sitting in the live streams on YouTube watching it and the venom flying was insane.

hollow bridge
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theyre already crewed up. probably starting production this summer or fall

little anvil
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And yet, now, with this...here we see the fanbase treating FuD like its gold.
Completely ignoring the acid they were hurling when it was new.

obsidian flume
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They could still scrap it for some reason. It’s not confirmed till it is on my Tv lol 😂 talk to Disney and the character from the mandelorian that was suppose to get their own show but instead she got political.

little anvil
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Thats a good point.

hollow bridge
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true, but I dont think its gonna get interrupted in anyway

little anvil
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We'll see. Im cool with there being another season or not. To me, all Halo content is good.

obsidian flume
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I’m just saying there are too many variables at this point. When it’s in production and have cameras rolling it’s a safe bet but still not a sure thing. But I’m sure they would have a season 2. I agree season 3+ that will be the most unsure thing at this point. But season 2 still not a safe bet.

hollow bridge
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season 2 is a safe bet

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its amblin

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they got the money, the green light, theyre crewed up

obsidian flume
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That’s all TV shows are just bets and some pay off, some don’t, and some gives you just enough for another hand. People will hate on the show but they need to see that the show was not for its fans. As bad as that sounds. It was trying something new and I’m enjoying it as a fan of the games books etc.

I’m sure you are right regardless. But I take the realist approach on life. Green lights turn to yellow which quickly turn to red all the time in showbiz the Cara Dune situation left a bad taste in my mouth on reliability for Green lit shows that I was looking forward to watching even for the production giants.

But even if it stops I’ll enjoy the ride. And pack it away as a cult classic in my book. Same with Starship Troopers, Freaks and Geeks, and Fanboys.

smoky ether
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I’m guessing the human in the convenant is the typical cliche of the person that is being used to find fore runner tech.

slow bridge
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My guess is it will be like most Netflix shows 2 seasons then cancled from lack of view

proud lynx
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I just watched episode 5 and I was not disappointed!!!! Very good series indeed I can’t wait for the next episode!!!!! C:

slow bridge
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This is why there's no hope

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Just kidding 😀

proud lynx
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What!?!? xDD lol

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It’s pretty enjoyable IMO

slow bridge
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i was told i can skip everything and just watch this episode

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and i might watch it if cheif keeps his helmet on and doesn't show any booty

hollow bridge
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im on ep3 now, enjoying this ep more than ep2

fickle mantle
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The scene where he removes his pellet is actually pretty deep. His desire to be more human, to feel emotion surpasses his spartan training.

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It’s great character building imo

slow bridge
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no no no no no no no to that good sir

hollow bridge
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people flipping turds about some booty scenes. they werent bad

fickle mantle
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We see the ramifications of this human desire in the most recent episode

slow bridge
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i mean if this show was game of thrones no but its halo

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reaper you are ruining me wanting to watch the episode

fickle mantle
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A replica of the game to TV wouldn’t be very good if you think about it

fickle mantle
slow bridge
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its an action ip how is that hard to mess up!?

hollow bridge
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its not messed up

slow bridge
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yeah i won't get them

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for real all ive seen is a cheap cw show

hollow bridge
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LOL

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people that say that must have something wrong with their eyes

fickle mantle
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Action IP video game, not TV series. What they’re doing now is adding the elements needed for a full show. I agree some things a bit off, like the sub plots but I’m hoping they line up soon.

hollow bridge
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its blows my mind when people say dumb stuff like that

slow bridge
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emotions, politics, undeeded drama, rinse repeat. o have more talking with a character for being a man of few words

tawdry kestrel
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Used to be when you had UNSC politics Innies did something moronic

slow bridge
tawdry kestrel
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Those were the days

hollow bridge
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different timeline, im sorry you cant grasp the changes and accept them for what they are

fickle mantle
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Yup they did, so they’re adding elements needed… like I stated lol

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Can’t expect a clone of Halo CE- 3 for TV

slow bridge
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i do but like with spiderverse they kept the core of the characters the same but developed a new story

fickle mantle
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There needs to be filler

tawdry kestrel
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I am beginning to believe the people aren't aware what an adaptation is these days

slow bridge
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nah we have great examples of adaptation this is just bad writing

hollow bridge
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the writing is pretty bad at times but overall its alright for what it is

tawdry kestrel
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Oh I was talking about Speedy's comment.

fickle mantle
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Yeah sometimes there’s been some goofy writing.

tawdry kestrel
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It is absolutely hilarious to me that people think an adaptation can do every character OOC because it's an adaptation lmao

fickle mantle
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I expected as much, but the show itself has a lot of layers being thrown on and I for one enjoy the universe they’re presenting to us.

slow bridge
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i just wished they stayed to what drew people in instead of a copy and paste scy fi show with halo name on it

hollow bridge
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its hilarious to me that people are getting so up in arms over the show 🤷🏽‍♂️

fickle mantle
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Idk man, this recent episode gave me everything I love about halo lol

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Again, goosebumps lol

slow bridge
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and you talked me out of watching it

hollow bridge
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im enjoying at, and my mom is enjoying it. shes a regular tv consumer. Which is the target audience

fickle mantle
hollow bridge
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its doing a great job keeping her engaged

slow bridge
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my kids laughed at how bad it is and they don't have high standards

hollow bridge
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Then everyone clapped

tawdry kestrel
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Literally no clue what could be the case

fickle mantle
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I’m sure you got smart kids but I wouldn’t take their word on a show.

slow bridge
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and i didn't set the stage i gave no opinion but let them decide for themselves

fickle mantle
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Kids watch some dumb stuff these days lol

slow bridge
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Reaper that is my point haha

fickle mantle
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Sorry I’m just having a hard time conceptually understanding the point 😆

slow bridge
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thtas how i feel with this show...thank you

hollow bridge
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lmao

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anyone that says this show is CW level is insane

slow bridge
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didn't batwoman get more views than this?

robust marsh
hollow bridge
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number of views dont matter to me, im talking quality, look of the show, and the effects

fickle mantle
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In the end, I suppose this argument doesn’t matter. I respect your opinion on it tho.

Overall the show is totally new lore being built on the lore of a video game I play to this day. I knew it was gonna be different and not identical. They told us, so I made sure to be ready for it. I was not disappointed.

hollow bridge
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they are way better than CW lmao

hollow bridge
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it doesnt thi

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but whatever you say

slow bridge
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i agree its dif opinions.

fickle mantle
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Idk, quality is up there. Seems like we’re nitpicking now lol

slow bridge
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bro...walking dead pilot had better cgi

hollow bridge
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im talking as a professional in the industry. that has worked on shows series halo level, TWD, and CW shows lmao

fickle mantle
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Y’all remember the deer in TWD season 8 or something

slow bridge
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i will concede maybe it got better though

fickle mantle
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Worst cgi ever lol

slow bridge
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that was level of cartwheel cheif

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peoples comments keep getting deleted 😦

hollow bridge
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i can excuse any cgi in any show after seeing what CW does with some of the stuff they do. And then people wanna look at halo and say its CW level. nah, nope, bull. Cant let that stand

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😂

hollow bridge
slow bridge
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people get censored for posting halo quotes

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in this disc

hollow bridge
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interesting

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were it so easy

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ayeeee didnt get censored

slow bridge
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i got a warning for using a word and it wasn't a bad on

robust marsh
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The visuals are fine. But the departure from the original story and themes that drew in the masses will lead to diminishing returns as far as money and fanbase. I fear it will fade into the archive of other mid grade sci-fi dramas

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It no longer stands on its own as the OG did

hollow bridge
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LOL l love the futurfied SUV

alpine nexus
hollow bridge
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yeah when sorren and kwan get there

alpine nexus
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It looked like it was made of plastic honestly

hollow bridge
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I liked it

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gotta save money some how

sour mountain
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too much expectations for season 1

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season 2 would have no excuse

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if you enjoy halo you'll like the halo show

alpine nexus
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Not really

hollow bridge
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i wouldnt care in s2 either. they dont wanna spend that much money on a picture car thatll be on the show for less than a minute

sour mountain
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I didn't mean it like that

alpine nexus
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If you enjoy Halo you'll enjoy the second half of episode 5, thats about it

hollow bridge
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gotcha

sour mountain
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but there's obvious mistakes

sour mountain
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I think the cgi looks fine

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anyone making any real issue about it is just looking for something to hate, can it be better sure but its not bad

alpine nexus
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CGI was fine in every episode except episode 1. Episode 1 CGI was abysmal

hollow bridge
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probably suffered from having to be ready for the premiere

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and reshoots

sour mountain
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bet they were playing around with it till the last day

hollow bridge
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more than likely. it takes a while to do it all and then couldve done reshoots and pick ups during the duration of the show

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production is hell at times

sour mountain
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season 2 will come with a new show runner too

hollow bridge
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dig that

sour mountain
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the first guy spent 19 months working on it in Budapest or something? so he wants to just spend time with his family If I remember right

hollow bridge
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its crazy how much productions can go through that the public doesnt hear about unless you talk to soemone on the crew and the crew doesnt talk much

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yeah it was in budapest

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this industry is very taxing

sour mountain
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for sure

hollow bridge
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LOL i bypassed the profanity filter, got an immediate warning

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Love this discord

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Anyways to say what I said again. I just dont like how theyre handling silver team. the actors suck and they keep trying to use them to show “spartans=machine”

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like when talking to miranda. that whole interaction to fill the gaps is bad

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so i guess writing is the essence of that

forest scroll
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I personally really like Silver Team and the way they are portraying them, especially Kai in episode 5 that was brutal

glacial widget
slow bridge
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so much wrong with that post and why the show is failing

hollow bridge
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LMAO just saw the post about the keyboard guy

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UGH

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again with the filter

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TLDR of what I said: ADs probably told the guy to slow down, they used the one take he looked like a doofus. wondering if that shot was pressed against time and they couldnt get anything else.

minor python
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That chip be some mgs4 nano machine stuff

glacial widget
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i mean chief has killed millions of humans and covenant

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he is a genocidal maniac

wary meadow
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Literally came here to say I don’t like anything about this they sorta ruined this show from episode 1 :(

buoyant current
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So anybody here hate the Halo Series?

wary meadow
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Yes

buoyant current
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I mean it's okay.

wary meadow
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Meh, they ruined the entire franchise by ||revealing his face||

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Really sad

buoyant current
buoyant current
wary meadow
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Yeah

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I won’t hate it if it’s confirmed not canon

buoyant current
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It's not canon.

wary meadow
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I like the show now

buoyant current
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I mean if you look at the five episodes, Sure it has features similar to the games.

wary meadow
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I’m on episode 2

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I appreciate the cgi

buoyant current
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However, they're basically taking things into their own hands.

wary meadow
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Yeah, diverting from the story

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I mean yes, when it’s not canon they can do whatever which can be fun

buoyant current
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Which I find enjoying.

wary meadow
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But if this was in the main universe the franchise would have been ruined

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For me

buoyant current
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Just imagine what they'll lead us into. (As long as its good and not bad)

wary meadow
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Yeah, perhaps a banished crossover or Prometheus

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Hell maybe in this universe the flood will destroy reach

buoyant current
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What I enjoy the most about the episode is the Frigates and "Ships" lol.

wary meadow
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Oh yes 100%

buoyant current
wary meadow
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Yeah

buoyant current
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Just imagine the cgi of a marine getting infected

wary meadow
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Since halo 3 been waiting for that

buoyant current
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I wanna see a remake of Halo 3

wary meadow
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Yes

buoyant current
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Anniversary*

wary meadow
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Yeah

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I do hope we get more then the covenant and unsc

buoyant current
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The first halo I ever played was CE on a dell.

wary meadow
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Haha dell, nice

buoyant current
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But I prefer to say I grew up with Halo 3

wary meadow
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I grew up with reach

buoyant current
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Nice

wary meadow
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Yeah

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I was 9

buoyant current
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I was 3 or 4 when I played CE.

wary meadow
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Sheeesh

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343 guilty spark scary at 9 can’t imagine 3-4 years old

buoyant current
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What I am disappointed in tho is Cortana not being purple

wary meadow
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Yeah

wary meadow
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Wait

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Wait wait what Cortana- oh right

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Right the weird clone thing

buoyant current
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Admiral Hood looks like Cutter from HW2

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In my opinion

wary meadow
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Wait admiral hood was there?

buoyant current
buoyant current
wary meadow
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Only on episode 2

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But I’ll look out for him

buoyant current
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What I don't like is they gave him that stupid grey outfit and not that classy white one

wary meadow
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Awww

wary meadow
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Rip

buoyant current
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Anyways, I'm going to go MCC

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See ya later

deft crow
#

So I’m halfway through ep 4 and I can’t continue. I literally just am not able to continue the episode. It’s so bad. Does it get any better?

tawdry kestrel
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I think their really trying so we shouldn't judge them and besides I kind of like how the series is going.

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also there are worse series to judge.

somber current
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I think the TV series is awesome. Yeah, it may not follow the game but its definitly good IMO.

latent yoke
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i'd say you could skip it if you really have to

minor python
tawdry kestrel
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ok then

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atleast you are watching it.

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it doesn't matter how.

buoyant current
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I think you're a true halo fan if you appreciate everything whether is great or bad lol. (My opinion)

little anvil
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Content is content; its quality is your own choice, no one elses. As it should be.

thin smelt
#

I heard that Master Chief takes off his helmet. True?

formal swift
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Bro Master chief literally destroyed that elites face

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In ep 5

dreamy stirrup
#

Episode 5 was pretty poggers

formal swift
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Yas they finally got some action in there

spice summit
vocal lynx
neon plover
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They announced that from the beginning

vocal lynx
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seriously?

tawdry kestrel
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Yeah

vocal lynx
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flip

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I hope it doesnt effect the game lore

neon plover
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It doesn't, the show is completely separate.

vocal lynx
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Thank god then i dont care as much

boreal helm
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who cares, Blassed one is the best character in series 😄

open herald
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U know how the new spider man movies is very different from the comics, yet still familiar in identity

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Thats what this doesnt have

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Its so off

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Cortana, Halsey, and the action sequences are the only good things ive taken from this

frosty perch
steel moss
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I want more buttcheeks

latent yoke
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im gonna be honest with you
there's probably gonna be more in the next episode

tulip turtle
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Is geo-filtering allowed? I'm not playing in any tournaments. Just sick of playing 200ms and want to restrict my matchmaking to 100ms and under.

toxic warren
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No

tulip turtle
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any plan to allow server selection?

toxic warren
tulip turtle
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ah sry

latent yoke
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the horror 😨

dim gulch
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It’s bad

tawdry kestrel
gleaming shore
#

hey

i saw that the halo series isn't canon

in which moment does it takes another "way" from the canon thing?

like, does Reach invasion happened in the serie's timeline? ( and all event that happened earlier ?)

steep osprey
gleaming shore
#

ok, so, basically

at the start of the show

||War is ongoing between humans and covenants
John is awake, working with several other spartans to deter the covenants
none of the both factions knows about the Halo ( and therefore the flood )
And the spartans tries to recover an artefact speaking about the Halo?||

i put on spoiler, because,

i read that in the wikipedia synopsis kinda, which explains the context of the show, but i don't want to spoil other by accident

chilly glen
# spice summit A true fan of Halo will acknowledge the shortcomings that come with cashgrabs. E...

Beyond that, it's a problem when trying to identify who is a true fan of any product. It comes with a lot of bad blood and, dare I say, "gatekeeping". To say, "ah you're not a true fan because you don't appreciate it the way I do" or "you don't like what I like". We're all just people who appreciate the Halo franchise as a whole and want the best for and of it, and so we criticize the shortcomings when necessary

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Dang that was a whole essay, sorry for the length

wind jungle
#

the open cinematic cutscene for halo infinite will always be better than all halo tv show episodes current and future

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Change my mind

neon plover
#

People who say "Change my mind" often already have their mind locked and are not willing to change it"

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

true pivot
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Halo is at a new low

verbal fox
#

Yeah, yeah in many ways it is. The show has only sunk it further, if you can even call it Halo.

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However, Halo Infinite, despite negatively around content, is still good, while MCC is still strong. The time gap between 2015 and now has just skyrocketed the need for quality content that Infinite doesn't provide and the show spits on.

cosmic willow
# true pivot Halo is at a new low

I wouldnt say that
I mean the show at best is average, Halo infinite has its problems but its still a good game and MCC is still going strong
acting as if its the worse time to be a halo fan is just well wrong
that was when Halo 5 came out

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that game sucked

alpine nexus
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I’d much rather be a Halo fan now, when it has already hit rock bottom, rather than witness it’s decline

forest scroll
#

But yes Halo 5 logistically speaking is the worst and was the worst time for Halo

latent yoke
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nah the worst time was when Halo 4 released, pretty much everyone hated Halo

urban sparrow
#

don't know why. Halo 4 was the best in the whole franchise

pseudo robin
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Why is it that it feels like the tv series is only good when there's action scenes? I mean I get it it's not always going to have action in every second in it, but I thought I would be able to enjoy the lore and the dialogue but much of that has fallen flat on it's face for me to be honest. Honestly I don't care for how they reworked Miranda's character, instead of having a strong female character, they made her no better than a researcher or scientist, Halsey half the time just seems like a generic "Burnt out mom" type character instead of a scientist, you got Jacob Keyes's character which I wish they would have just replaced with Sergeant Major Avery Johnson. I would have felt significantly more endeared to the series if they had. Hell I'd even make an excuse or two if they had. I loved Johnson's character throughout the Halo games.

alpine nexus
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"Miranda" is just a generic side character. Halsey is okay. "Jacob Keyes" is just another generic side character. Johnson is too fun to have in this show

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I love how they downgraded Miranda from commander to generic researcher

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And Keyes, while still technically a captain I think, is never seen being a captain

glossy pike
#

The asian chicken, makes the show unbearable whenever shes on screen, the character just straight up sucks

cosmic willow
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asian chicken

rotund hamlet
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You HAD to dive in like that, did you?

alpine nexus
#

I hope asian chicken dies

sour mountain
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always the non white female actress that gets attacked lol

alpine nexus
#

Her death should be super anticlimactic too

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She goes to fight to free Madrigal and immediately gets shot in the head

alpine nexus
sour mountain
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lol

rotund hamlet
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The more I see Halo fans say that, the more I want the writers to have an openly homosexual Covenant character on-screen out of spite

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sigh

alpine nexus
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Probably against their religion

rotund hamlet
#

We don't know that... Halo 2 is proof that there's a hint of them

timid ether
rotund hamlet
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Osiris busts onto the scene, knocking down chief as they take care of everything else

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meanwhile Chief has to dig out of a hole they threw him in

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Jul Mdama enters the scene and tells Halsey that he can't pay their child support

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Don't hold back and watch the fandom explosions

timid ether
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Love it

alpine nexus
#

Honestly I wouldn't mind that. Go full comedy rather than this half baked show

minor python
rotund hamlet
minor python
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You might be right, lmao

rotund hamlet
#

Jul Mdama being in an affair with Halsey isn't low quality

minor python
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Naked Gun Halo

rotund hamlet
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lol

timid ether
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nah i love quality thats why i enjoy the show despite its flaws. it has nice char. building. the cgi is 50/50 but generally looks good. spartans finally behaving like spartans. even tho vennak and riz are not quite there yet. the hate between cortana and chief is a nice story element that when executed good can bond them way better together with a much more rewarding storyline. the only thing holding it back is the sometimes slow pacing. they needed a bit more kick in the first 4 episodes, still appreciate the world and char. building. they had to do this to bring tv watchers in that dont know anything about the chars aswell to show fans how the chars are changed. And then yeah. they should get rid of kwan. other than that. awesome show

buoyant current
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I wonder what episode 6 is going to bring : )

timid ether
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maybe makee telling the covenant where reach is

buoyant current
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I’m waiting for that MAC gun to blast a capital ship or a cruiser like they did in reach

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So any predications on what’s going to happen in ep. 6?

minor python
rotund hamlet
buoyant current
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claps

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My predication is that she’s gonna find a way into the higher up and potentially destroy the city otherwise disable some security features and steal the artifact

dark storm
#

I really like the latest episode. The first half of the episode on the unsc side has some great character drama and cinematography. The acting is all really good too. I'm liking the series more as it grows into itself despite the flaws. The action is also extremely impressive in this episode. I can't believe that they did that whole scene as well as they did the Spartans running faster than warthogs looks so much more convincing than it could have

buoyant current
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I’m thankful for that 🙂

dark storm
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I'm still coming to terms with certain character alterations but I'm hoping they will grow to be closer to what we know from the canon

buoyant current
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So I have a question, mainly about halsey’s reaction when she seen Miranda’s ship get blown up

dark storm
buoyant current
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Do you think she was gonna abandon mission or something?

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I mean she did risk her life going out there to save her 🤷🏻‍♂️

rotund hamlet
dark storm
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In what sense?

rotund hamlet
#

Man of Steel intensifies

buoyant current
dark storm
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I think she was just being a mother

buoyant current
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Yeah but it seems she really never cared for that mother mindset.

rotund hamlet
dark storm
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She's a monster in a lot of ways but clearly she has some humanity left

rotund hamlet
#

What if
Just what if

buoyant current
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She’s known just for caring for her work

dark storm
#

The reason I think halo looks better than these super hero movies has less to do with CGI and more to do with practical effects and weight to movement

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The show still has spots it looks more rough but for a first season visually it looks spectacular

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It'll only look better with time

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And learning and budget

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And less Covid lockdowns lol

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The main stuff I think they need to improve upon is Chiefs armor on certain environments not looking metal. Sometimes it's really convincing, other times it's less convincing. The other spartans because thier armour is darker have less of an issue with this

timid ether
#

areed. sometimes its really awesome and other times its feels strange or looks off.
But then looking at other shows its mostly always where season 1 needs to find its place, pacing and what it wants to be. and then season 2 start to be much better. so im hopefull for season 2 to bring a much more coherent and overall more polished experience.

dark storm
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100% agree

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I hope they take fan critique to heart too with certain aspects of just wanting it to feel a bit more like the lore. Me biggest concern right now the lack of characterization of the Covenant themselves. I want to see aliens interacting outside of the context of communicating with humans

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I don't dislike Makee, I just don't want her to remain the only focus within the Covenant, especially given they've fleshed out the elite language and they look and sound so great. I want to see actual characters form out of them

timid ether
#

indeed

sour mountain
brazen solar
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kill kwan ha

true pivot
livid oak
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Not a huge fan of this storyline but the fight at the end of this weeks episode was very good, so kudos to the costume and effects people

dark storm
# brazen solar kill kwan ha

It's still early, hopefully that plot line will evolve. I don't dislike her it's just a slow story line that hasn't really had a payoff yet idk

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It seems like a lot of the people watching this show don't watch a lot of other tv. Good series take time for payoff

cosmic willow
true pivot
frank egret
neon plover
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TL;DR Kwan is most likely trying to redeem herself off her grief from wanting to abandon her father, reality will punch her in the face, and Soren will hold her hand every step of the way.

frank egret
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The only hope is that Kwan’s story will payoff somehow. Right now it just looks so meaningless in the grand scheme of everything.

open herald
sour mountain
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Wow how progressive of you

open herald
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Check this out right

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Almost all the characters

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Silver team is coolish. Chiefs buddy is cool. Halsey and cortana

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So like its more about bad show

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👍

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Progression wise,z more aliens would be epic. Shout out grunts for comin through

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We could also get Johnson in this B

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Lastly, if we really wanna get progressive, we need Flo in this show

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Hows that

sour mountain
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Very woke of you, your parents would be proud craighearts

open herald
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Thanks

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To you, as well

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Cheers 🥛

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Pretty solid stance overall

rain marten
#

The only thing I don’t like about this show is that one elite beating up kai and how they repress their emotions

open herald
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The irony of it

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The emotion stuff iskinda funny, ngl

vocal lynx
hybrid quail
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watching ep 5 now

open herald
#

Hopefully Flo makes an appearance

little spindle
# sour mountain always the non white female actress that gets attacked lol

This reminds me of that time someone tried to tell me that the reason Locke wasn't loved from Halo 5 was because he was black, and that the haters were racists. Not saying there aren't racists out there, but they would be the minority here. Kwan and her story being disliked has nothing to do with the fact she is of Asian descent, for the vast majority of viewers.

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There's always going to be someone to make it about it race, but they're not the majority here and I think that's important to distinguish. Sorry about the essay I just typed but I just wanted to get that out lol

robust marsh
little spindle
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Pls do so

frank egret
#

The actress definitely shouldn’t be attacked though. We don’t need another Rose Tico situation. Not her fault she got assigned a role with bad writing and a tropey story.

alpine nexus
little spindle
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Hmmmmmmmm

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Who's gonna tell em

sturdy haven
#

How many episodes is the halo show gonna have?

gaunt harbor
buoyant current
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🤦🏻‍♀️

#

I feel -

gaunt harbor
#

Although technically someone who’s Asian but not Korean can be racist towards Koreans

tulip schooner
#

Hello

open holly
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Hi

sand rune
#

All I will say is I see only a couple of key halo lore accurate errors that I can agree.

However, that being said. We still don’t know the extend damage of those errors, and there is still possibility to see good outcome from it.

Look, I get the show is not like the game, but that doesn’t mean it’s not respecting the core of halo games. Because it totally does, many examples in fact, and we still have so much left to see. But y’all judging this so quickly, so harshly when we’re not even halfway there…

spice summit
#

They had 9 years and a decent budget to do it right and they're taking their sweet time to pull in fans that have been with Halo for years. I can only say I'm not impressed by this show. The whole Kwan narrative kills the tempo of the show and sucks the life out of any tension build-up. A lot of shows have that one character people despise because he/she is, by all matter of accounts, a very despicable character. I feel sorry for the actress that now needs to deal with the results of bad writing.

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But in the end; all 343 cares about right now is the "Broader Audience" for anything. We'll just have to wait patiently for something worthwhile.

dense rover
#

I think I figured out the problem with the UNSC plot: It's trying to map the Reclaimer Trilogy status quo onto the Covenant War era, with the UNSC and ONI being ambiguous at best and evil at worst.

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So we have the pro-insurrectionist plot sucking up oxygen when we're expecting to see scrappy underdog army guys.

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It's like making a WW2 movie where America is propping up the nazis to make money off the war, you're mixing up the events and motivations of two very different eras that don't match tonally.

west basin
#

chief is kinda hot in halo series

atomic compass
#

why silver team though

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muh

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blue team

tawdry kestrel
#

His character still sucks in it

glass lichen
#

He's not that bad

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Obviously the games made him better but the show doesn't make him as bad as everyone I hear says

crisp hound
#

He’s got cake

west basin
alpine nexus
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His character is pretty bad

west basin
wary hinge
#

Master chief has thick cheeks in the TV series don't even

alpine nexus
#

Average cheeks

knotty tendon
knotty tendon
alpine nexus
#

I don't know why he needs to be depressed nowadays, there's enough of that in real life.

knotty tendon
#

Maybe it helps viewers identify with him?

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But then again the main purpose of fiction is to let us escape our dreary realities

alpine nexus
#

^

glass lichen
spice summit
hard pecan
hidden matrix
#

Well, I made it, so...

tawdry kestrel
#

Wtf happened we just got a face reveal woahahhh

tawdry kestrel
#

Huh

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Nah

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Did he actually

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I just started ep 4

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Naahhhh

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When

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Why

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WAITT NO WAY UR NOT CAPPING

neon plover
#

If you just started episode 4 then you already saw that...

heady halo
knotty tendon
#

• Makee
• Chief
• Kai
• Vinsher
The Halo writers are nudists

toxic warren
#

Let's keep it clean please

timid gyro
dreamy stirrup
modern mountain
tawdry kestrel
#

i hope masterchief shoots things next ep

glass lichen
#

Ngl Vannak is probably one of the coolest looking Spartans in Halo

cloud wraith
#

Vannak is probably my fav Spartan. I hope we get to see him more in action in later episodes, because he’s been killing it.

haughty vigil
#

if we dont see an ODST by the end of the show im going to explode

glass lichen
#

Same

tawdry kestrel
crisp hound
#

A second season is already confirmed is it not

tawdry kestrel
crisp hound
#

Maybe they will learn from their mistakes

tawdry kestrel
#

Probably not

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We’ll see

crisp hound
#

I’m gonna stay hopeful and positive for now

tawdry kestrel
#

I felt the same way

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Until that husk of a game came out

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Now I don’t know what to feel

hollow bridge
#

The stunt video is cool af

frank egret
#

Just watched Pablo Schreiber in “13 Hours” (coincidentally also on Paramount +). He’s a good actor, it’s a shame he’s been given such boring material in this series.

worn light
#

Jeez Showing his face in the first one was bad enough

candid dune
#

hmm

forest scroll
#

I’m not biased. Trust me

candid dune
#

i just finished the first ep

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i have been playing halo since i was 6

frank egret
forest scroll
waxen agate
craggy bane
#

This show needs to be given to actual Halo Fans not Activists

craggy bane
formal swift
#

That wasnt like that before

upper wasp
#

only good thing about the show is vannak and thats it lmao

#

also can they just delete the kwan storyline

craggy bane
frank egret
amber egret
#

ep 5 good or bad

frank egret
# amber egret ep 5 good or bad

Good. Focused story, very little Kwan, finally some action. I can appreciate the Silver Timeline as its own thing when it’s more like ep 5.

vocal lynx
dark pebble
#

Hi anybody know where I can watch the halo tv show online for free? I’m from Singapore so I can’t subscribe to paramount

toxic warren
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I think there is one episode available for free

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You need to pay to watch the rest of the series

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We don't allow discussion of piracy here

dusky nova
toxic warren
#

Ah, it was free on YouTube for 1 week, pretty cool of them to do that

sharp lotus
# frank egret Gotta admit, even with its share of issues, I’d definitely be enjoying the show ...

I agree. I appreciate trying to do something original, but I feel like I really don't care about that whole side-quest. It distracts from the main story and action and every time it cuts to that I kinda just sigh.

It'll all get tied together down the line probably, but until then, it does feel like a drag. I'm trying to not compare the series to the games and just enjoy it. If you can block out a lot of things, it is an enjoyable show.

dusky nova
toxic warren
#

Hoping it's no too much longer before I can start watching

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Managed to steer clear of most spoilers so far :)

dusky nova
#

Oh wait it's not yet legally out in the UK?

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Damn it's still not out on Sky

toxic warren
#

Paramount doesn't come to Sky in the UK until Summer

dense forge
#

You’re not missing much, trust me.

craggy parcel
#

Is the series any good?

amber egret
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some people love it, others hate it

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personally I think its fine

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definitely not without its obvious issues

gray moat
#

It's okay

visual shard
past sedge
#

I hate the Kwan story line is feels like filler

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But the chief storyline is interesting

visual shard
past sedge
#

Brutes face look odd but I can live with it

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Elites aren’t that bad

toxic warren
#

I'm not too bothered about others liking it or not. I like what I've seen so far and am looking forward to watching :)

past sedge
#

I feel like the flood will be hinted in a second season but not in this season

visual shard
#

Ya ship full of flood

toxic warren
visual shard
snow jasper
#

Hopefully tonight’s episode go crazy

dusky nova
paper salmon
#

Honestly giving a masked character a face is kinda weird

agile zenith
#

I know that he's currently working on The Rookie and a few other projects, but it probably wouldn't out of the realm of possibility that Nathan Fillion reprises his role as Buck for the TV series at some point. Probably season 2 or 3... season 4 at the latest

little anvil
#

Assuming we see Buck, considering they're focusing entirely on the primary characters.
Buck and Alpha-9 came out of nowhere from the side

agile zenith
#

While I'm going off a simple assumption, I wouldn't be surprised if Alpha 9 show up at some point

little anvil
#

I guess it would fit the broad sweep they're taking with stuff

restive anchor
#

series = bad, though finally latest episode had aliens which was cool

peak vigil
#

bro i love soren's design so much

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leather jacket over mjionir armour

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it looks so cool

wintry pelican
peak vigil
#

his character name is also listed in the cast

toxic warren
#

For people that haven't had a chance to watch it yet (or can't watch it), only courteous to keep more spoilery parts to the spoiler channel :)

peak vigil
#

it's not a spoiler

amber egret
#

It really isnt

tawdry kestrel
#

Agreed

frank egret
knotty tendon
#

Just watched the 5th episode. Best one yet, IMO.

#

Very well choreographed battle scene, but in particular ratchets up the tension between the “good” guys (though I consider Halsey, not the Covenant, the main antagonist of the series, since it’s about Chief).

potent wadi
#

When does the new episode drop?

zealous bramble
#

out already

potent wadi
#

doesn’t show up for me, im est time zone

zealous bramble
#

I just watch it on amazon prime

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might be an issue with P+

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est aswell*

sweet lotus
#

I finished the episode

pale cypress
#

NOOOO I CLICKED IT

toxic warren
dusky nova
#

🤦‍♂️ some people have spoiler auto-unblock

open herald
#

When Chief says “its time to make these elites look like grunts” and then 360 no scopes a straight line of infantry

red shuttle
#

Not sure how I feel about the show so far, but man I do love how brutal the fight scenes are

dreamy sundial
#

I really enjoyed the last 2 episodes, i feel bad for Kwan Ha but that story thread isn't doing anything for me. I didn't miss it at all.

sharp wasp
#

I think halo tv show is getting good

urban sparrow
#

I loved this episode

hexed ice
#

I joined just to say episode 6 by far I can tell it's all of our favorites 😂

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personally I never cared for the madrigal stuff, I feel like the plot isn't going anywhere with it, which is why this episode did so well

verbal fox
#

No, people enjoyed the action of last episode far more, however the lack of Kwan had made it a strong contender on that point alone

somber current
#

damn that last halo episode was GOOD AF

red shuttle
#

Made Halsey look somehow more sociopathic than she was in the books lmao

somber current
#

I can't wait to see what happens next now that they found it

red shuttle
#

Probably gonna end where halo CE begins "cortana all I need to know is did we lose them?"

somber current
#

probably

#

I didn't read anything on it but not sure what side she chooses

red shuttle
#

Cant exactly do a halo story with cortana being the bad guy, otherwise you get halo 5 and nobody wants that

neon plover
#

No spoilers here blobshh

somber current
#

they have a baby alien!!!!

little spindle
#

Ah my bad

little spindle
neon plover
#

Yes

languid brook
#

Just finished watching ep 5 and it’s annoying how there’s elements of a good halo show here. Cgi still really wonky but that was a cool sequence

somber current
#

its def a good episode

vague fern
#

Just watched episode 6

Dear lord its good

Ita really good, they nailed it

#

Oh wait, this isnt spoiler chat, sorry

hexed ice
hexed ice
somber current
vague fern
#

He totally didnt watched, the ending gave me goosebumps

#

Simply perfect

somber current
#

same bro... my hair stood up

little spindle
somber current
#

yup

vague fern
#

They went all in

neon plover
#

😬

languid brook
#

I just started watching it now. Will say despite everything else jen taylor absolutely nails it as cortana

somber current
#

he is the main voice as cortana lol

languid brook
#

I mean fair enough she’s had years to hone it but she’s such a highlight lol

somber current
#

she

languid brook
#

Every time i hear her voice as cortana it’s like a comfort blanket or something. So glad they used her. Was worried that it was just gonna be the halsey actress at first

little anvil
#

They were. But Halsey's actress was busy and Jen wasnt.

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Probably a no brainer for Jen honestly, its not like she hasn't been doing Cortana for so long she can probably slide into her mind-set with ease.

blissful shore
#

ok

#

this is the second time i see nudity and 2 girls almost kiss

#

neve excpcted this ones

hexed ice
#

the nudity wasn't that bad, only 2 back shots so far, hopefully nothing more 😅

somber current
#

yeah idk why every movie needs to add stuff like that. Its been gettig worse as the years go on. The Gaaa yy stuff as well with any movie

neon plover
#

You can say it, it's not filtered

somber current
#

oh no i got a warning for saying the f work in a diff way lol

neon plover
#

Different case

languid brook
frank egret
verbal fox
#

Arguably the same thing with Chief's voice. The pair are inseparable from our concept of Halo

late rock
#

I been enjoying this show

forest scroll
#

Episode 6 is pretty good. I like where the story is going so far. Second favorite episode now

late rock
#

All the scenes with the protaganist are good, that asian chicks storyline is so damn annoying, glad it wasnt there in Episode 6

forest scroll
#

Agreed

late rock
#

Like wtf even is the point of her, I could only watch her until the point Masterchief left her all those episodes ago, but now I couldnt care less, neither can I stand her

forest scroll
#

They need to do something different with Kuan or speed up her story through these episodes real quick, cause I’m just about tired of her. I want to see more of Vinscher’s cheeks then her honestly lol

late rock
#

It is actually bringing the plot down in my opinion

neon plover
#

No spoilers please

sullen tundra
#

is this the last one from s1?

neon plover
#

Nope, there are three more

sullen tundra
#

poggers ❤️ sorry for saying bad word xD

#

i literally just finished watching it and it was amazing

#

is it gonna be more seasons or we don't know yet?

neon plover
#

There's a season 2 confirmed

sullen tundra
hasty sedge
#

Curious how much they'll use for that

tame marten
#

omg

blissful shore
#

WAT

#

how many episode they release

crisp hound
#

6 are released out of 9

wraith helm
#

Imagine if we see 343 guilty spark

tawdry kestrel
#

Stop showing Chiefs face

toxic warren