#halo-the-series-chat

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warm umbra
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Oh yeah

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That scene lol

dusky nova
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They're a bit too comfortable showing naked people lmao.

knotty tendon
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I definitely think they’re pushing the TV-14 rating with a couple of shots (maybe not Chief ||taking out his hormone suppressor pellet||), but the massacre at the beginning of the show and the ||harvesting and murder of Halsey’s clone|| seem like plausible candidates.

urban sparrow
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not every episode has been TV-14. The first episode was TV-MA

teal coral
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Yes

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Halo show is mega doodoo

warm umbra
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Bro three sus scenes so far

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The woman in the covenant, Master Chief’s scene which I guess wasn’t that sus probably, then the person who works with Halsey who attempted to kiss the clone?

warm umbra
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The last one was weird

robust marsh
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LOL, that was max cringe

tawdry kestrel
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Not gonna lie Lieutenant, that sounds pretty cringe

warm umbra
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Yeah I never liked that scene, what was Halsey’s partner thinking?

tawdry kestrel
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Yeah that partner seems weird

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Seems like he has some kind of attraction towards Halsey

robust marsh
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He wanted to be cortanas step dad

warm umbra
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Sus

teal coral
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This entire show is weird

velvet stag
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Wait..... the series has, like, RvB Cameos or something ??

opaque wraith
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What time*** does the new episode drop for EST?

tawdry kestrel
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The VA for cortana being cortana is awesome

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It's one of the only things I can compliment about the show

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But im almost certain it's the VA alone that does it for me, the dialogue is a bit too much on the cheesy AI side

knotty tendon
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I don’t think you can have blood in Tv-14 and in the very first episode someone gets blown up into a red cloud

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Also after learning the production hell this show went through it’s gone from a 7.5 to an 8/10

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Like my god

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What a nightmare

tawdry kestrel
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Jen Taylor is such a good actor she might carry this show with her acting.
Lol, I'm joking of course, she's a genuinely good actor but I don't think there's any actor that can carry this.

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I'm going to watch the rest of the episodes skipping forward through all the boring nonsense, unless Cortana or a new character is on screen.

marble mulch
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new episode when

tawdry kestrel
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Another week at least

marble mulch
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Don't Forget! If you are a Sky Q or Sky Glass customer, you can now catch up on any of the key on-track action you've missed alongside the live action by pressing the red button on your remote.

dawn ember
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Eeeeeeewwwwwww the halo show

little anvil
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We talking about the next episode arleady? Its Wendsday where I am.

dawn ember
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It died 5 years ago

cobalt pagoda
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I just don't know what there is to be excited about with this show. 3 episodes in and It still feels pointless. Like am I supposed to be hype for a conflict between Chief and Makee ???

dense rover
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What if in the games, we meet a Monitor that's somehow figured out how to access other timelines, but it only complains how the timelines aren't what he expected, and that's how we realize he's incurably Rampant?

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I guess it's not funny when the writers are the ones complaining about the fans.

knotty tendon
tawdry kestrel
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Eh same thing

brazen solar
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Isnt miranda white

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And supposed to lead a ship

dreamy belfry
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they arent making it according to the game

little anvil
tawdry kestrel
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is the halo series any good ?

wraith niche
wraith niche
tawdry kestrel
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it would have been better if the voice actor of masterchief voiced master chief and he didnt show his face

wraith niche
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No

tawdry kestrel
wraith niche
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Bc if you want that play the games, this is different

tawdry kestrel
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k

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craig should be in the series

wraith niche
tawdry kestrel
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ok

little anvil
wraith niche
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But whatever the ones who r going to hate wont really hear :/

wraith niche
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And anyone can tell me how many hours r left for the release?

tawdry kestrel
wraith niche
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No, he is still an avatar

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Who is dead, but his story begins at New Jerusalem and finishes in a counter terrorist mission with a bullet in his brain

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Who will be cool would be Buck

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Cuz the one who plays him is a tv actor so...

light hemlock
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The episode?

pale cypress
# tawdry kestrel is the halo series any good ?

It's really good, tbh, people are complaining about the fact that it's not following the game, and I get that- but it's not supposed to be halo canon/is a different timeline or fracture. I'd really recommend you watch it, the whole thing is pretty high quality AmongUsChief

lament swallow
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Damn where is the 4 episode 🥹🥹🥹

tawdry kestrel
light hemlock
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Its release!!!

tawdry kestrel
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Yes, mostly negative

tawdry kestrel
pale cypress
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Yep!

tawdry kestrel
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Yeh but i dont im gonnaa watch it until season 1 is complete

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Im gonna binge it

pale cypress
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Tbh idk if the actor in the show looks like how I imagine/want chief's face reveal to look like, but then again it isn't canon- yknow like how there's three different spidermen in the multiverse xd

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And they have different faces

tawdry kestrel
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Wtf is this

pale cypress
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No idea uny

tawdry kestrel
wintry pelican
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@dusky nova For your info, it's out about an hour from earlier whatever time it is

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Usually a few minutes past an hour and 21 minutes ago

last rock
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This episode 🛌 😴 💤

idle pawn
# tawdry kestrel Yes, mostly negative

Mostly negative from Halo fans who only ever pay attention to the games story & not the wider canon. Everywhere else has been positive from the casual audience.

normal fjord
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I was expecting things to pick up this episode, but it keeps dragging, especially with the kwan story I wanted to snooze. Things were building up good last episode but it just fell flat here.

dreamy turtle
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Kinda mad that they showed his face. It’s the one thing that I hate about the series. I love that they give more info on his past.

timid ether
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Anyone have a completely legal site I can watch the show on

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Dm if so

smoky ether
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tawdry kestrel
smoky ether
tawdry kestrel
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Yeah I saw that on r/Halo
Maye just be some region lock bs

fallen kayak
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Was John independent in the actual canon

tawdry kestrel
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Independent?

fallen kayak
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Like a free thinker

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Makes his own choices

tawdry kestrel
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Yeah that's just some TV show random stuff lol

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In fact in the main canon Halsey literally calls what TV show Halsey did the dumbest idea they could go with when it comes to Spartans

grim bone
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His overall mindset remains the same in actual lore: defend humanity no matter the cost.

fallen kayak
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I mean I get why in the tv show they want to control him tho

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Spartans are dangerous

tawdry kestrel
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Spartans are soldiers, not some bloodthirsty sociopaths lmao

warm umbra
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We know

idle pawn
heady halo
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They really liked naked 🍑

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I wonder if Cortana is next

vapid wing
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So if they clearly don’t care about nudity why they change cortana in the first place

wintry pelican
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Spoilers go in the other chat

vapid wing
acoustic notch
spice summit
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Is e4 worth watching if the whole Kwan narrative doesn't interest you in the slightest? Just want to know what I'm getting myself into.

amber egret
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is ep 4 good or nah?

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another one? I thought it was only chief and the covenant woman

spice summit
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Good to know, thanks 👍

wintry pelican
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Don’t mention any leaks real or fake

verbal fox
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In the background, as the director is talking about shots and storyboards, there is mention of Episode 5 featuring a battle on one of the boards

wintry pelican
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Then it’s not a leak? So why pass it off as one

verbal fox
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Ah, well I don't think Paramount intended for anyone to read the Storyboards and see it

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That's why I said leak, cause I doubt Paramount's intentions

surreal swift
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i wish they utilized the theme from the games more

glacial trout
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is Miranda Keyes lesbian in the lore?

cosmic willow
glacial trout
# cosmic willow No I dont think so

not that theres anything wrong with being lesbian, but in the latest episode i got some mad vibes from kai and miranda during their "lets keep this our little secret" scene and i kind of wish the show would stop trying to sexualize halo lol

bleak wraith
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really don’t know why every episode needs a nudity scene

little spindle
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WHAT

verbal fox
little spindle
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Yikers

acoustic notch
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Is the whole plot of season 1 just him searching finding seeing the ring for himself then end of season 1

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This show is extremely lacking and trash

cosmic willow
acoustic notch
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Episode 1 was also about the ring

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They found the object to begin looking into the ring

modern plover
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So. Will they need to bring the other artifact to the bigger one as the bigger one is in a pillar of stone that’s possible connected to the who planet. Also it is Forerunner tech right? Not precourser

heady halo
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Right 343?

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Oh and plus

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They really love to see Master Chief naked

bleak wraith
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Like some scenes are really badass, but then are suddenly put to a full stop and some meaningless slow scene is played and just bores me and ruins all of my enthusiasm

heady halo
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Fun fact I almost got caught getting in trouble at school for watching the Master Chief naked scene

heady halo
bleak wraith
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Tbh yeah I’m losing interest too.

heady halo
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Episode four wouldve been better if it didn’t show

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Actually it’s been hours I think everyone watched it

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Don’t you think?

cosmic willow
cosmic willow
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Artefact

heady halo
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It’s pronounced artifact in the show

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Not artefact

cosmic willow
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They both sound the same sir?

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its like color and colour

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I grew up spelling it Artefact

heady halo
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It may be true that it’s a noun but to me I pronounce it artifact

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Noun word for artefact

cosmic willow
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Artefact and Artifact are pronounced the same 😹

grim bone
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One is the American English version and one is the British English version

grim bone
grim bone
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But yeah show🤢🤢🤢

heady halo
heady halo
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Since I lost interest after episode 4

cosmic willow
dreamy sundial
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so i guess next episode is Soren's turn to get butt naked.

dreamy sundial
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No Covenant but buttshots are an integral part of what makes Halo, Halo.

cosmic willow
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PREACH

heady halo
halcyon timber
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Was I getting some romantic vibes from Kai and Miranda at the end there or am I just reading too much into it?

cobalt pagoda
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To the people that are really enjoying the show, what is it that you anticipate seeing every week in this timeline?

steep osprey
dreamy sundial
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To make a serious critique now, it pains me to say this because i fundamentally like the characters, but i'm really not a fan of the Kwan Ha subplot. I think they could do a spin-off series with her and Soren and it could be awesome potentially, but as a Halo series it really feels out of place to me. It makes me think that we haven't see pretty much anything about the Human-Covenant war thus far.

dreamy turtle
verbal fox
nimble arch
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I like that its kinda accurate to the books with how the world is built but I dont like seeing chief without the helmet all the time and the side characters actors vary in quality, the casting could have been wayyy better

halcyon timber
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I agree with MC's helmet, like I get why they made the decision to remove it but I also don't like how it seems to constantly be off, but again it's just to highlight the emphasis on humanizing him more in this timeline.

verbal fox
rain marten
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I wonder if we’re going to see flood

verbal fox
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But really, it does help further separate him from The Master Chief

slow bridge
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emocheif is not a good master cheif

wintry pelican
verbal fox
# wintry pelican He took of his helmet in canon

You can't use canon to argue for why Chief should remove his helmet in a non-canon show. Which is why I constantly argue it should have been canon to begin with and debate from that perspective

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Angered Fans: Dude, what the heck, Chief shouldn't be removing his helmet.
Supporters: He did it in Canon
Angered Fans: Why did you make all these changes then? They are dumb
Supporters: Its the Silver Timeline

cosmic willow
verbal fox
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Its a one way street, Mystic.
Since the TV series is not canon, canon cannot be used to justify events within it. Otherwise, why not make it canon?

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And of course people will use canon to critique it, because people wanted a Halo Story

cosmic willow
urban sparrow
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good episode, really enjoyed it

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when they said halo and it played the theme it gave me chills

cosmic willow
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And Why can you not use it to justify the show but you can use it to critique it

verbal fox
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Because after 9+ years of development and many hopes and dreams and wishes, and a significant Halo content starve, people want an authentic Halo Story, and are disappointed when its not

cosmic willow
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Like ive said before most of the criticism is basically fans going "This didnt happen in lore canon, its dumb' when talking about the show

verbal fox
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Its like a logical argument structure.
Take this
If you play Halo, you have an Xbox.
You don't have an Xbox, therefore you don't play Halo

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That in itself is a fallacy of argument

urban sparrow
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same lmao

verbal fox
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Eh, its too abstract to pass along here

Halo, the games and books and everything else, existed well before the TV Show. The show only exists because of it, therefore you can use what came before to judge what comes now.

urban sparrow
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I just don't see the point of arguing over it. The show is what it is. Take or leave it IMO.

verbal fox
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Shut it down and make an authentic Halo story

winged reef
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For me, it’s just simple why I’m starting to lose interest.

3 exposition episodes in a row, no real Covenant action since the first episode.

verbal fox
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However, you can't making something new, but then disregard what came before but also use it. What sense does that make logically? Its like taking a piece of evidence you have. Some of it proves you are right, most of it proves you are wrong, so you just ignore the parts that prove you wrong and only show the parts proving you right

urban sparrow
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lol

verbal fox
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How can you argue in the same breath that Chief removed his helmet in lore while also advocating its an alternate timeline. They are opposite and they mutually disprove the other

urban sparrow
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so anyway, can't wait for episode 5

verbal fox
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The episode with mindless action that will distract the audience from all its problems

cosmic willow
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Im fine with people not liking the show I just dont like it when people use the canon lore to critique the non canon show

verbal fox
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While I don't support accusing fans of not being fans for liking or disliking the show, I get a strong vibe of apathy from those supporting it for the most part, while those disliking it have been far more visceral. That's not to mention the media itself accusing fans of not being true fans for disliking the show, or Pablo Schreiber's post that came off as elitist

verbal fox
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Do thee have little pride in the Halo story we were once told?

urban sparrow
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lmao this is funny

verbal fox
urban sparrow
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and every week there is a new episode probably

cosmic willow
verbal fox
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Everyone has their own interpretation of what Halo feels like, based on what came before. That core canon is what made Halo Halo.
To many, its a slap in the face to both.

cosmic willow
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At best the show is a pain staking average

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imo

urban sparrow
verbal fox
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Well, as a show, and just a show, its okay. But you throw in the word Halo, it comes with a lot of baggage

cosmic willow
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I guess

verbal fox
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Expectations, demands, hopes, dreams, wishes

cosmic willow
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Atleast thats how I was looking at it

verbal fox
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When it doesn't live up to those, it feels like a perversion or a betrayal

urban sparrow
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there it is 👏

verbal fox
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You know our motto, we deliver

urban sparrow
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actually made me laugh, kudos

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I'll give you props for that one

verbal fox
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I try sometimes, thank you

verbal fox
# verbal fox When it doesn't live up to those, it feels like a perversion or a betrayal

Take, for example, Halo 5.
There was a lot riding on the game, so many expectations, including ones promoted by 343 itself with its ad campaign.
And, to the majority of fans, it fell through. It was a colossal failure to most fans.
I was once like you though, and in 2015, despite the hate, I was apathetic. I just wanted to shoot aliens with Blue Team. That was enough for me, and I didn't necessarily pay attention to the hate. But it was absolutely warranted. After reflecting on the story itself, it was clear why fans hated it.

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Then I thought, I criticized, and now, like most, I disliked the game. I wanted more Chief. I wanted more Blue Team. I wanted more Marines

urban sparrow
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here's my viewpoint. Do I find some decisions made in the show strange? sure, no denying that. Do I think it's bad? Not at all, but that's to be expected after being a part of a franchise for 20 years and replaying games and re-reading books over and over. My personal opinion is sure, somethings are strange, but not bad. It's my favorite universe creating a new and "what-if" type of story in the universe I love.

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I just view it as an alternate take on the universe, and I accept that. I had ZERO expectations going into the show because I knew if I did set expectations they would be grandiose and never be fulfilled.

verbal fox
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I mean, I have no problem with What-If stories so long as they are just that and aren't preventing the main course from being served in the medium

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It would be like if the MCU only produced What Ifs and never did the full Avengers movies

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Then again, I have no idea what the levels of expectations were when Iron Man came out

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Too young to remember

urban sparrow
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you still have books and movies that will stick to lore, this is just a neat little side road detour that's fun to look at

verbal fox
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But that's the thing Aegis, because of this show, I will might never get to see some of my favorite parts of Halo novels properly visualized.
I would love to see First Strike, Cole Protocol, or Ghost of Onyx visualized

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We still haven't seen in canon the Spartan Smile visualized

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Only read about

urban sparrow
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as would I but I dunno, maybe we'll get that at some point, maybe we won't. Life is full of disappointments, this franchise is known for them

verbal fox
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That may be true, but the franchise has achieved success before. Blue Team got into Halo 5, despite doubts on ever seeing them in a game. Admiral Whitcomb got a canon visual appearance finally (with an epic moustache).

urban sparrow
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see, there is hope 🤝

verbal fox
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It is possible, but hope is not always enough. Action is required

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If there wasn't backlash over Halo 5, would Halo Infinite be as good as it is today?

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ya ya, people aren't fans of the lack of content but that'll sort itself out eventually with time

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The foundations are strong

urban sparrow
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very strong

verbal fox
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Sitting around hoping for something to happen will change nothing

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And while messaging in here everyday in and out may not make significant waves, its the best I can do without going for a midlife crisis or something

urban sparrow
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I understand

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you're passionate about Halo, nothing wrong with that.

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I'm passionate about it, just maybe in different ways

rigid abyss
brazen solar
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halo series is good, cry about it 😂

minor python
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Yeah, I gave up on episode 3. I've got expectations, going to keep them. Just gonna sit back and let it burn at this point. /shrug

brazen solar
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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emoji failuire imagine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haughty dragon
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I've always viewed Halo from a creative viewpoint. Halo is essentially a collage of a whole bunch of different sci-fi tropes and ideas from movies and books that the people at bungie thought were really cool, wrapped in a unique and imaginative look and feel. From there it's a sandbox for the developers, authors, and fans to tell stories, add to its complexity. Retelling and reimagining is totally within the spirit of Halo IMO, and while I have my own critiques on the show, none of them are "they're disrespecting the canon"

minor python
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Yeah, mine isn't 'disrespecting canon.' You adapt the story to the medium. Look at The Witcher, and the Metro 203X series. Great examples. This though... this? It's just not even a good story, nor does it feel in the 'spirit of.'

heady halo
minor python
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I'll wait for something more in the line of 'Halo Landfall' trailers and the ODST ones.

heady halo
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But episode one of the Halo series and him taking it off was not a good idea

minor python
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Yeah, pretty much. I'll probably be waiting forever.

steep osprey
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I honestly don’t think those will be possible, unless we support this show. If this gets positive support, I think they can expand with spin offs and get us an ODST show. But that’s just IMO

minor python
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Yeah, that's called an abusive relationship. No thanks, lol.

haughty dragon
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comparing a tv show you don't like to abuse is laughable sorry, I can't even entertain that

steep osprey
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Haha yup. But if this fails horribly, I don’t think they’ll be inclined to do it again

verbal fox
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I mean, its a bad reference, but he's not wrong.

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If The Series succeeds, they'll make more of the series, without change

minor python
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Support something bad hoping to get something good later?

verbal fox
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If it fails, they'll stop entirely

haughty dragon
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I don't really agree with that either. Support the show if you like it, but if you don't, why bother?

minor python
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It's not a bad comparison at all. Abusive, appeasement, whatever. No thanks, lol.

verbal fox
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There won't likely be an in-between

haughty dragon
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I'm not saying there will be.

verbal fox
minor python
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Fair, just seemed to flow anyways

steep osprey
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If y’all are still watching this show after how much negative comments there are, then y’all are already wipped into a bad relationship. Lol

verbal fox
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I am hate watching it, so I can stay informed enough to say its bad

wintry pelican
haughty dragon
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Anyway my take is this: I much prefer to get a strange, all-over-the-place show that has its own ideas and interpretations of the halo universe, than a faithful adaptation that adheres to the original visions of dozens of different authors

verbal fox
haughty dragon
frigid gale
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I think halo fans arrent used to unfaithful adaptations lol, if you look at spiderman, he literally changed atleast 5 times

verbal fox
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Well, Spiderman also came from something that had multiple different canons

steep osprey
frigid gale
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I would rather have something new than just a rehash of the old. I find this chief awakening storyline really interesting. Chief in the games was literally a blank slate for you to fit yourself in. I dont understand why people think its a good idea to make him like the games. You cant see yourself in a TV show lol. TV show characters need actual personaility and emotion

verbal fox
robust marsh
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I am giving it the first season to win me over. If I still don't like it at that point, i'll stop watching.

steep osprey
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To each their own

verbal fox
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John has had a significantly fleshed out character in those books. He had worries and wishes and dreams and nightmares

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We aren't getting that John at all, just a poor imitation

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A completely different character

haughty dragon
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And my hottest take yet, which explains why I enjoy watching the show: aside from a few outliers like the forerunner novels for example, I've found most of the halo novels and extended canon to be kinda mid. Halo's actual story is surface level at best most of the time.

robust marsh
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lol, then you don't actually like Halo that much?

haughty dragon
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I actually love halo

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just most of the supplemental fiction is kinda loose

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You could get me talking for hours upon hours about halo 2's cutscenes, or the origins of the flood

karmic wasp
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I'm getting annoyed at how much John has his helmet off, like I don't care they did a face reveal but he's spent more time with his helmet off than on

robust marsh
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Kind of funny, I didn't care for the Forerunner trilogy. I didn't think it was necessary to the story

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I think some of the expanded books do a good job of exploring human nature, much better than this show has attempted

karmic wasp
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the forerunner trilogy is a mess of a trilogy, Infinite may be the third entry but it hardly feels like it due to it setting up a new story

robust marsh
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Less inflated drama

karmic wasp
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and Halo 5 was a lackluster continuation from 4

haughty dragon
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my biggest problem with the TV show is how hard it leans into Halo's least interesting parts, which IMO is all the military sci fi stuff. Halo always had this undercurrent of mythology to it. Halo to me is an epic combo of war story/space opera/cosmic horror, but the show seems more interested in being like The Expanse

robust marsh
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Oh im talking about the book trilogy

karmic wasp
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oh well lol I haven't read that

robust marsh
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But i agree with what you said

verbal fox
robust marsh
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The storytelling is disjointed, no cohesion. I get the impression they had no vision for the story and winged it

verbal fox
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More like they had a story and tried to force Halo into

haughty dragon
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after the most recent episode I'd tend to agree.

karmic wasp
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oh well, hopefully things improve

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the show was renewed for a season 2 so we'll see if that gets cancelled or not

robust marsh
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Yeah, its like they have a story they come up with on a whim and then have to incorporate Halo as that is their purpose, but they keep forgetting

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😆

karmic wasp
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I mean I like the stuff with Chief, Halsey, Cortana and whatnot

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the Madrigal stuff just isn't that interesting to me

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I don't care about it

robust marsh
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I think Halsey is pretty good, though that plot is a little slow

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Focusing on the rebel stuff would make sense either pre covenant or post. Not now, it divides the story and muddles it

haughty dragon
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I like the cast for the most part, and the production design is fantastic by TV standards. I'm mostly interested in how they'll explore the covenant and the flood conflict. I feel like the show isn't dynamic enough to do that stuff justice

karmic wasp
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imo they should have used Madrigal in the first episode as the introduction then left it alone

quaint valley
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Just finished episode 4. My favorite thus far

haughty dragon
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like, Halo 2 and 3 in particular aren't afraid to do more stylistic, somewhat corny stuff like aliens speaking english, heroes spouting one-liners, or an intergalactic parasitic compound intelligence speaking in verse, and it's that style and tone that makes it all work. When they morph it into this edgy tv drama they kind of sap out a lot of what's special in the first place. The music in the show isn't bad by any stretch, but it also sounds like what you'd hear in really any other show

minor python
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Nah, it's mostly Halo show bad, am watching

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Good luck to those who don't like it and are going all the way through

alpine nexus
verbal fox
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I see you too, Reddishcarp, feel free to enter the conversation at your leisure

haughty dragon
verbal fox
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I do prefer when they speak English, as in Halo 2 when they do so its so visceral and so much easier to distinguish individual prophets and other aliens. While I appreciate them inventing a language to speak, its just... not nearly as impactful

alpine nexus
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^

verbal fox
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Its great when its Human vs Covenant scenes, but when its just the Covenant (like Makee speaking with the Hierarchs), them all speaking English would just be far more entertaining to watch, rather than me reading subtitles

tawdry kestrel
frank egret
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The show having a secondary main protagonist is the biggest problem with it in the first place. There’s no need for a side-plot.

tawdry kestrel
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Yeah

gleaming linden
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to make this show way better we need the halo reach exodus rats

graceful kernel
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We know, the UNSC isn't all good, but a whole side story of a girl leading the insurgents while their is a whole alien race fighting the UNSC is not what I want to watch

frank egret
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And the war itself isn’t treated with much urgency in this show. It’s presented more like a conflict involving small scale skirmishes here and there instead of a galactic struggle in which humanity is being pushed farther and farther back.

rough raptor
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I don't recall proper if it's accurate from the campaign but I can't help but notice the robocop level "thumps" each time the spartans take a step.

urban sparrow
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I mean, they weigh half a ton. I expect some thumps lol

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rough raptor
glacial widget
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See man I just don’t care it sounds awesome so I like it

urban sparrow
rotund hamlet
haughty dragon
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I also hope that if the show goes on, it attracts more writers and directors from other projects

rotund hamlet
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My only real concern is how the show will portray the flood

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I don't know why the fandom is obsessed with adding suspense to the flood when it goes against their nature, but the budget and presentation of the show doesn't give me hope about the showrunners caving to this headcanon.

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It's in their name, THE FLOOD. They are supposed to swarm at you with guns and infection forms the instant a... "biologically diverse" organism walks into the room

haughty dragon
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The budget of this season is something like 90 million dollars, which is in the game of thrones ballpark, so I expect they'll put the money in it when they get there

glacial widget
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Next episode looks incredible

glacial widget
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The were halfway through filming when the pandemic hit and then start filming again and the second wave hit

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It’s a massively inflated figure

glacial widget
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Like the nids or the Zerg

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But somehow more horrifying

haughty dragon
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do we have numbers on season 2's budget? Since it's been ordered by paramount they would have to have sorted it out by now

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either way, the show is changing hands to a new set of showrunners after this

haughty dragon
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haughty dragon
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forerunner installations seem to just come with flood samples in every little nook. But yeah, doing the flood in live action is tough, because it's basically Alien plus The Thing amped up to a million. It's the kind of thing that's hard to pull off. The only tv show I've seen pull off anything at that scale is Game of Thrones's wight armies and battle sequences in later seasons. And that's thanks to both a very high budget, and top notch directing and photography

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too bad the writing on that show got so bad

alpine nexus
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Spider episode in mandalorian

slow bridge
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As fans of a franchise this large we shpuld be holding the showrunners to a higher standard as right now bat woman on cw is more accurate to the material than this show. Justifying this show is only going to continue the bad writing, effects, and keep giving us more emo cheif

glacial widget
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I’ve always wondered why the flood left chief alone until he picked up a plot device

glacial widget
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Please show me what you tuber can create something like that

slow bridge
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I gave up

glacial widget
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The only bad cgi is at the very beginning

slow bridge
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Like the giy hired by Disney when he fixed Luke in mando?

glacial widget
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Everything past that is absolutely incredible

glacial widget
slow bridge
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But you think this is?

glacial widget
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Better but when he’s talking the uncanny valley hits hard

glacial widget
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Also Disney Need to rip off the bandaid and get Sebastian Stan to be luke

slow bridge
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Maybe, I still don't believe from clips I've seen, but writing hasn't and them missing whole point of halo is just sad

glacial widget
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Everything POST MADRIGAL has been absolutely incredible

slow bridge
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Really not gping to have this disagreement. I conceded maybe it has

glacial widget
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The opening shot of episode 4 has some of the best CGI I’ve ever seen

slow bridge
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Come on now

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And again higher standard maybe cgi is better but this is a cheap cw show

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Emo cheif is terrible

glacial widget
slow bridge
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I will if you admit this isn't halo!

civic pelican
slow bridge
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Ok ill watch it my request might have been a stretch

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They could scrap the whole cast minus Halsey and Cortona

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Alan Richerson from Reacher for master cheif!!!!

civic pelican
slow bridge
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which one is he?

civic pelican
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Travis is Grog Strongjaw from Critical Role and he'

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s the voice actor for the games

slow bridge
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I'll look him up

civic pelican
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he's a decent-sized dude I met him in person a few years ago.

slow bridge
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Thry really miscast cheif

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Alan has the size and look and his stoic look in reacher was more master cheif than pablos

civic pelican
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Yeah..that's why I thought he'd be good for Fred. (looks like him too)

slow bridge
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Ok now I'm interested

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spice summit
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So far I’ve not been impressed by Episode 4.

civic pelican
glacial widget
glacial widget
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Try again

slow bridge
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Why are they deleting comments?

civic pelican
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Maybe you should talk to the writers of Variety I showed you my source....heh..show me yours.

glacial widget
slow bridge
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No I said I didn't want fan fiction

glacial widget
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That’s not how it works

civic pelican
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COOL...did he work on Halo?

slow bridge
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Tell your uncle halo needs help!

glacial widget
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No but it’s the same all around

glacial widget
civic pelican
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then your argument is invalid.

slow bridge
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So being honest but @robust marsh vid had the best take about halo I've heard

rotund hamlet
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If that really were the case everything would look supercheap

slow bridge
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So to the point about something different they could have done thst season 2 and maybe it would have worked but 20 years of fan base for a show/movie isn't something you do that on season 1

glacial widget
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Episode will cost different amounts based on the actors involved the shooting location and the cgi

slow bridge
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Then there wouldn't be such a divide. People would have fallen in love with characters and such then been more forgiving

glacial widget
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Not every episode will cost 10m

slow bridge
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When does Kwan become the blessed one?

glacial widget
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What you on about mate

slow bridge
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Seems like it would be next logical step for the direction of this show

glacial widget
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No. It doesn’t

slow bridge
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Completely does!

glacial widget
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Tho I do not know why they went on this tangent

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But I love vincher and soren so it’s not all bad

slow bridge
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I mean we have a blessed one a naked over emotional cheif I mean why not!

glacial widget
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Burn Gorman is a great actor

glacial widget
slow bridge
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We are all reclaimers

glacial widget
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Nope. Most not all

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There are multiple accounts of humans not being reclaimers

slow bridge
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No sir just cheif!

spice summit
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There a few actors/va’s that carry this show. Chief ain’t one of them for me unfortunately

slow bridge
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Zach I'm also just messing around if you didn't know

glacial widget
spice summit
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You can also quite literally ignore episode 2 and it is like nothing happened because of scenes openings/endings

glacial widget
spice summit
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I’m still rooting for the Jackal Sniper going for any spartan thats not wearing their helmet in conflict or tense areas

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Time to give this show the Halo 2 Legendary treatment

slow bridge
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Ok so Pablo in Den of thieves wpuld work for thos show, the acting that is Pablo cheif not so much

glacial widget
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You don’t need action to have a good show

spice summit
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This soap show that is supposed to be “Halo” is also not really working for a “good show” in my honest opinion

glacial widget
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I love tv and halo and I love this show

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I’m beyond excited for next week

spice summit
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I love tv, halo. I’m not a fan of Hollywood’s direction for films & series these past few years and I’m definitely not a fan of this fan-fic that’s supposed to be the well-awaited TV take on Halo

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Truth’s or Regret’s

glacial widget
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An elites hopefully

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We get a thal introduction with him cheeks out

spice summit
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A cheeky Sangheili warrior. Can’t wait

glacial widget
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If she does I’ll stop watching the show

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That would be way too far

robust marsh
glacial widget
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I would imagine the reason thal isn’t part of the show is because they don’t want us to hate him. He was directly responsible for the death of billions of humans

spice summit
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Why would we hate him? Because of poor CGI? I don't see a reason why we would hate the Arbiter unless the writers specifically chose to alter his character/story. Maybe he's a grunt now. Who knows

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But I am afraid Makee is this "Silver Timeline"'s replacement of the Arbiter. Saves them some money to use a human stand-in instead of having to use CGI

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Probably the same reason why they used a human stand-in instead of a Kig'Yar

glacial widget
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No because we meet I’m at the end of his villain arc and the beginning of his redemption arc. If we meet him now he was still glassing planets for fun

tawdry kestrel
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Her sisters cousins aunts mothers uncles brothers former roomate

glacial widget
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I doubt we would feel the same about the arbiter if we saw him glassing reach

spice summit
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LOL

glacial widget
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You need Setup for good action

spice summit
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I'd watch that

tawdry kestrel
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In Halo, we are all war criminals - Victor Reznow, probably

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Most Halo characters have done something horrible and yet we love them

spice summit
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Humanity in general is as messed up as it comes. That doesn't just apply for the Halo universe. But this is more like an American drama/sitcom with lots of Wahman complaining rather than an actual Halo story that I'm used to from the novels and games. They even specifically said "Based on the Halo video game universe" at the end of E4

glacial widget
slow bridge
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and episode 1, 3,4 and so on!

spice summit
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Photoshop is a crazy effective tool to draw smiley faces over everything. We tend to forget there's a lot of grass passed that x)

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I had high expectations until the interviews prior to the series release. Toned it down, but remained cautiously optimistic throughout e1. When I saw that you could literally skip e2 because its nothing but a filler episode I toned my expectations down to "Oh, its just 343 pulling H5 story things all over again" and now I'm at the point waiting for them to show me otherwise. I was actually very surprised to hear Jen Taylor's voice. That actually brought me back to Halo for a moment, but then plenty of Master Cheeks moment for me to go: "You're ruining it". But we'll see. Next episode is next week

glacial widget
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Episode 2 wasn’t filler

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I honestly don’t think people understand what filler means

tawdry kestrel
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Filler is what Mando did for every episode.

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Okay 3/.4 of it's episodes

glacial widget
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It’s stuff that doesn’t directly progress the plot

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So pretty much the entire middle of mando season 1

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Just because an episode doesn’t have action or isn’t as exciting does not mean it filler

spice summit
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So what progressed the plot in e2? Because you can literally overlap scenes between end e1 and start e3 and its like all that has happened is that a brat was dumped. Nothing gained, nothing lost.

glacial widget
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Chief understanding that the keystone lead to a weapon. And soren getting kuan. Also chief understanding that he needed to take our the pellet or property understand the artefact

astral dirge
#

This show is so terrible lol

spice summit
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e3 and e4 basically explain or go through the exact same process, but through different characters/narrative plotlines. But that's on top of "more action". e2 has a sincere lack of that.

glacial widget
spice summit
glacial widget
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Her job is too monitor chief for Halsey she isn’t the accomplice in Crime we know her as yet

spice summit
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She literally told Chief the gist of the pellet.

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There's a lot that was explained through later episodes to only make e2 more void of material.

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But thats my take on it

glacial widget
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After Halsey told her to after he enquired

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Without soren he doesn’t take it out

tawdry kestrel
#

This feels like more of a spoiler chat conversation

little spindle
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Have they showed grunts yet?

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I've not watched since Ep1

tawdry kestrel
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Though I'm not exactly sure what conversations do belong here if spoiler is for any spoilers...

tawdry kestrel
little spindle
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Sad

tawdry kestrel
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We had a Grunt reference and le needler tho

little spindle
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I feel as if they had more Halo-like elements in play, some of the negativity would be relieved. Tell me a silly grunt scene wouldn't warm the heart of any Halo fan

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Ive seen bits and sections from the other episodes, but from what i can tell, it's got a star wars vibe going on. Could just be me tho

tawdry kestrel
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The lizard (reptile?) has a point.

little spindle
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True

tawdry kestrel
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Because while I'm not a fan of it, it's miles ahead of Book of Boba dialouge and writing

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And... scenery.
And action.

little spindle
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Ah that's a relief

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I hope the show does do well for those interested

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Because they deserve it to be good, after all this waiting

tawdry kestrel
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I just want Blue Team back in the story.

little spindle
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Isn't silver team like blue team?

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From what I've seen they definitely seem similar to me

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But yea blue team would be dope and so would red team 👀

glacial widget
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Yes

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Silver team is just blue team in the silver timeline

pseudo robin
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Hey so I'm just now watching the series and I'm trying to figure out what to think. So far I am disappointed about a lot I've watched episodes one through four and a lot of the story is just so disappointing

tawdry kestrel
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It's just not the same vibe as Blue Team.
Then again it's hard to repeat Fred getting a concussion

little spindle
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I see

pseudo robin
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Honestly that's probably a good way to describe my thoughts on this series

thorn bluff
pseudo robin
slow bridge
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it is sad as the standard for "good" tv is low right now. they put out some fan fiction low budget cw show and people are calling it amazing.

pseudo robin
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I feel like the show was purposefully created to divide the fanbase instead of unite it. And that is what makes me sad.

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Though when even forward onto Dawn is better it's very disheartening to see what so called "professional film makers" do.

slow bridge
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i feel showrunner pretty much stated it. this wasn't made for fans. its more they had a science fiction show they wanted to create but used the halo ip

pseudo robin
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I mean that's a lot of things nowadays it seems. It doesn't really center on anything it takes a lot of things from different IPS such as the Mandalorian game of thrones the expanse I'm sure there's other stuff that they've probably taken from. It just seems like they tried to make a Frankenstein's monster from bits of old franchises and tried to see if it would work and honestly I can say that what they did looks hideous to me at least.

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Thanks by the way

slow bridge
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They could have copy and pasted one of the games into a live action and it might have been watchable. I wish they did odst or even reach for 1 season then introduced the cheif myself

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And the censoring on social media isn't helping them one bit

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Arcane was gold!

velvet crater
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What's the halo series password?

amber egret
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just watched ep. 4, was fine

urban sparrow
amber egret
timid ether
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Yeah we don't like people like you here /jk

amber egret
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and uhhh soren has a revolver in the year 2500 unrealisitic because gun suppose evolve!!!!11!

timid ether
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That's the attitude. Good

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But anyway. Agreed was a good episode. Lot of Charakter building and some things i don't like that much but fun to watch

amber egret
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there was way too much master chief memories tho

timid ether
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That dragged way to long

amber egret
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half the episode was just master chief walking around

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but the character development was pretty interesting

timid ether
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Yeah. And kwans story is dragging on. And i don't know where it is going or where it connects to the halo n arc at all.

timid ether
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Yeah.

amber egret
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like b**** youre supposed to be undercover stop yelling at everyone about the resistance

timid ether
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Soren carries her story so far

amber egret
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yeah true

timid ether
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But I'm still enjoying the show

amber egret
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same

robust marsh
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Whos butt are we going to see in episode 5?

amber egret
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probably vannak or riz

neon plover
#

I am so bloody happy rn
I wanted to see the Halo show with a very good friend but he moved out, now we're headed to his house to watch episode 4 which neither of us have seen

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Who knows, maybe we'll play Infinite after that

vale cradle
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😡

dark storm
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Yeah i enjoyed episode 4 overall

slow bridge
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the blessed one is back!

dark storm
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#cakes

placid frigate
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Lord Hood has one

sharp sonnet
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Man I really give 0 cares about the Kwam storyline, stick to the covenant, the Spartans, Halsey and Cortana. The forerunner artifact. Just my opinion

pastel crater
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I think the Halo Tv Series sucks to the long time fans, and is ok to new watchers. And even though it sucks the producers literally gave the finger to us fans, and the show could be better, its alright

sharp sonnet
pastel crater
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Though i agree no one cares about kwam storyline, we want spartans

little anvil
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Thats probably why shes there, so they dont have to constantly have the Spartans on-screen.

sharp sonnet
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Yeah I don’t understand the point of her story, so there’s some humanity aspect to everything?

pastel crater
little anvil
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The CGI for them when they appear will presumably be as good as any previous Halo we've seen.
The surface might be slightly more complicated but I guess if nothing else, previous Halos we've seen do tend to have Pacific Northwest style enviroments

pastel crater
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True, but lets hope they blow us out of the water. Least they can do for us fans is make the ring look nice

sharp sonnet
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Was that a flood? In the weapon expert ladies dept? In a giant tube submerged, tendrils looked familiar

pastel crater
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Also is it just me or do yall think that human chick working for the cov will get betrayed

sharp sonnet
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It was badass when she used the worms that make the hunters body to take over the ship

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cool af

pastel crater
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True, i already knew they were dead when i saw the blue armored foot

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But dear god, imagine the flood appear, they would look terrifying in 4k

sharp sonnet
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Man I hope we get the flood

pastel crater
sharp sonnet
pastel crater
amber egret
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They really made a wiki page on revolvers

neon plover
neon plover
minor python
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Nothing wrong with having a gun that works in any setting. Remember you can buy lever actions that do more damage and crack armor better than 'modern assault rifles'

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Part of why I don't even blink an eye at people still using AK's in the series

amber egret
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What about the chevy

minor python
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And the humvees?

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I mean if that's what you brought with you to the colony? In places like that, you use what you have not what you want. The technicals with the mg's were stripped down humvees. Those things use engines dated back to the 1950s and can use avgas

alpine raptor
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Love the show

minor python
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Who knows, maybe some weirdo brought the equipment to make chevy Tahoe's, lol

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I mean heck in Iraq, I saw people driving freaking Ferraris north of Baghdad, 🤣

amber egret
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What the heck

minor python
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Yeah, the place looks more ruined than fallout new Vegas in parts, but people and junk are everywhere. You run into all kinds of stuff

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Got mortared one day only to find out the guys who hit us wheeled in the equipment with a wagons and a donkey

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Soo... Yeah I'm not blinking at the rebels using any of that at all, lmao

amber egret
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What about that minigun in ep 1 that only becomes effective once master chief holds it

pastel crater
minor python
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Uuuuh. Yeah they found a power up or something..... Cough

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When you kno how to shoot bullet hits harder. 😉

amber egret
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He probably had better aim and recoil control idk

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Considering kwan's dad doesnt even know how to press s, pathetic

minor python
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Nobody's really justifying it. There's a lot of derp moments in the series. I do forget that average tv is like that

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Actors may know how to move with firearms these days but not a lot of shows and movies know how to build really logical firefights

minor python
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Sadly that doesn't mean good decisions were made

placid frigate
amber egret
minor python
amber egret
#

No, its a revolvering shotgun

tropic stratus
alpine nexus
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It is a drum mag

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Drum mags are basically revolvers though

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Yeah if you look at the model the magazine isn't inline with the barrel, so it doesn't fire from the cylinder. Not a revolver

pastel stump
#

Ok I'm now at day with the show, it's ok

toxic warren
#

If you submitted a question, it may have been answered in this new video :)

alpine nexus
#

I hope someone asked him to keep the helmet on

olive temple
toxic warren
#

Nice!

pastel stump
olive temple
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None

ripe widget
#

Halo 2 or halo 2 anniversary

minor python
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Halo 2 A is pretty. But they make some odd design choices. Like blinding you with the covenant carbine and taking away fog so you can see the flood clearly

little anvil
minor python
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Possibly, who knows at that point. Could be paint thinner for the innies

little anvil
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Helium-3 since they're on Madrigal maybe?

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Siphon some of that off the main production to fuel their vehicles lmao.

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I got a theory on the minigun; it wasnt working till Chief picked it up cause someone put the child lock on it. When that Sangheili bodied the tecnical it was on the lock broke.

alpine nexus
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Maintaining a vehicle for 500 years and converting it to hydrogen would be so much more expensive than making a new vehicle

tropic stratus
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They just kept the platform for 500 yrs I assume

little anvil
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Not entirely out of place in existing canon, the Warthogs over a century old.

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Sos the MA5 series, alongside several other weapons and vehicles.

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My guess is Silver timeline humanity went through a period of "bring back the old to reenforce the new", especially on colonies like Madrigal.

tropic stratus
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Makes sense

alpine nexus
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Bringing back the old is often more expensive than making more of the new

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Very little of the required equipment for constructing and repairing 500 year old vehicles would still be around

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most would have been scrapped

tropic stratus
minor python
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Maybe they have some weird dude who made a Chevy Tahoe plant on the planet. Next to the AK factory

alpine nexus
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The innies just inherited those AKs from their great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers who fought in Vietnam

tropic stratus
#

So if the Tahoe’s and humvee’s are “new”, the does that mean they still have an extended warranty?

minor python
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Yes. But you have to comply with UEG environmental regulations. The colony was trying to scam them on it and Silver Team showed up to enforce the UEG EPA's edict.

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This is what happens if you don't convert to burning clean hydrogen

tropic stratus
alpine nexus
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gunpowder

minor python
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Stalinium obviously

tropic stratus
alpine nexus
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Certain guns have a gas operated bolt

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Such as the AK

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But the bullet is propelled by gunpowder

minor python
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......lol

tropic stratus
#

Would the gun have to convert to hydrogen…?

minor python
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Baking powder.

alpine nexus
#

Hydrogen would probably blow up the gun

minor python
#

Environmentally neutral until next Tuesday when the EPA gets a better deal

tropic stratus
minor python
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I'm talking out my butt here, lmao

#

Most guns these days are gas operated

alpine nexus
#

Foams darts are not EPA compliant

tropic stratus
alpine nexus
#

A local ODST squad will be visiting you shortly

minor python
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Environmental protection agency

tropic stratus
minor python
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But yeah, most firearms these days. Auto/semi auto are gas operated. The expanding gas is used to load the next round

tropic stratus
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Imma go now, as fun as this debate is. Those ODSTs will be here soon.

little anvil
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The UNSC gave them loads of options and benefits and offered to help them switch over but I guess some people just REALLY like the smell of gas coming out of their car.

Cue Silver Team about them extended warrenties...

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No seriously, in core canon the Warthog runs on literally any water you put in it, the internal filter and hydrolizer splits it and cleans out the non-water stuff. Brackish waste, swamp water, stuff from a hose, even human liquid waste presumably works

alpine nexus
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You wouldn't be able to turn the water into hydrogen in the car though, it would take the same amount of energy to create the hydrogen as the hydrogen would produce

tropic stratus
amber egret
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So even if the one chief picked was malfunctioning before the others were still firing

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Yet they did no damage

alpine nexus
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Maybe they missed every shot

little anvil
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Liquid cooled hydrogen fueled internal combustion engines fed by desalinators and solar powered water splitters.

tropic stratus
tropic stratus
little anvil
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Its only in the expanded lore, its never mentioned in the games. I dont think its brought up in the books either, its one of those weird little off the wall things

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It makes sense, waters freaking EVERYWHERE on whatever colony world your on (bar super-deserts)

tropic stratus
little anvil
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And technically its an infinite supply since the engine produces water vapor as a byproduct.
I THINK it even catches its own waste gas to ensure near constant fuel supply.
But the "gas cans" on the back of the Hog in 5 and Infinite are in fact water canisters.

alpine nexus
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making a car run on water is impossible

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but whatever its fiction

tropic stratus
alpine nexus
#

The hydrogen produced could only make enough energy to create an equal amount of hydrogen

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If you were somehow able to produce hydrogen and make the car move, just using the hydrogen produced from water, then you would have a perpetual energy machine

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Only practical way to make a hydrogen powered car is to make the hydrogen at a plant somewhere using solar panels

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Or wind

static kraken
#

Can anyone tell me if the halo series is following the game/book series or are they doing their own thing? I feel like I know halo pretty well but this TV series seems to be off.

amber egret
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pretty sure theres no other "logical" explanation

tropic stratus
rotund hamlet
static kraken
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Ok. Thanks. I personally don't know how I feel about it now that I know it's not following the lore and everything else canon to the games and novels. Hopefully it picks up some more action though.

minor python
marble vessel
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i dont want kwan to DIE:]

crisp hound
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I do, her storyline seems kinda pointless atm

hasty sedge
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Pretty much all the characters are 1 dimensional, so no surprise her story feels pointless

primal frigate
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honestly, ngl I like halsey. like compared to every one else, halsey is likeable

alpine nexus
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Her and Soren are the only likeably characters

hasty sedge
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She's likeable here?

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She seems more in line with the monster ONI portrayal her as in canon

primal frigate
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yea, shes the closest to the actual halo halsey

hasty sedge
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Closest? Compared to what? Canon Halsey herself?

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Heck, she's shown as far more sadistic than Canon Halsey ever was. Inhabitr chips to remove emotions, slowly murdering her own. Fully self aware and sapient clone

alpine nexus
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Creating the greatest soldiers ever? Saving humanity?

stray fog
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yo I quite like the show ngl

tawdry kestrel
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It's not about what she has done that is the same as in canon.
It's about How she has done it

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And show Halsey is much more evil than canon Halsey soo far.

stray fog
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nah

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arguably cannon halsey was more evil

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she didnt care about hiding from the kids the fact that they were kidnapped

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she just told them to deal with it

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and they did

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and honestly im fairly sure cannon halsey did all the same things show halsey has

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ok cannon halsey never wanted to override chief's consciousness idk wtf that was

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otherwise show halsey just seem very pragmatic and a VERY good portrayal of the character

tawdry kestrel
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They turned Halsey into a projectile weapon? Amazing. ONI has clearly stepped up their cover-up ops.

stray fog
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ok fair enough lmao

tawdry kestrel
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I'd wager to say that kidnapping kids, erasing/supressing their memories, giving them emotion control chips and then smashing an AI into their brain for control is much more evil then just doing the first part and then telling them they need them to save mankind.

stray fog
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but it isn't exactly out of character for Halsey either.... it's very much the sort of thing she'd do... additionally whilst ik the hormone suppressant chips are portrayed very differently in the show as to the books, the Spartans still had them in the Canon

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I wouldn't say one halsey is any worse than the other

tawdry kestrel
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Spartan's don't have hormone suppressant chips in the lore?
And no, it's not in character lol. Halsey literally says in the lore doing what TV Halsey did is a very stupid idea.

stray fog
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mmm.. i'll have to reread fall of reach but I'm very sure various hormones were supressed and added inorder to make the spartans what they were... i though it went into it in quite some depth

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also when did lore halsey comment on the actions of tv halsey lmao?

tawdry kestrel
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Spartans got treatment to reach their puberty earlier, not to have their emotions and memories wiped XD

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In Fall of Reach

stray fog
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well no not the memories, 1 sec, lemme read up on this

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damn i need to be revising statistics not halo lore XD

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but no you'd be correct in saying lore halsy never intended to surpress emotion

tawdry kestrel
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Yeah they never did that.
They just tought them how to focus on the mission.

grim bone
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She wasnt all evil like how they’re trying to make her seem

hasty sedge
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Don't forget the fact tv Halsey killed a sapient clone for Cortana, without even knocking her out. Compared to Canon Halsey, whose clones lacked any sapientence.

tawdry kestrel
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I'm pretty sure in canon Halsey just cloned brains?

peak vigil
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for a show about a first person shooter i expected more action

hasty sedge
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@tawdry kestrel pretty much, but they were within spindly, weak bodies

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There is an image of them in Halsey's journal

timid ether
alpine nexus
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it is

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Halo is a first person shooter

tawdry kestrel
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It's not based of Halo actually.

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It's based of an Innie propaganda piece posted on waypoint.

timid ether
hasty sedge
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@timid ether you do realize thr novel was made in only a handful of months, to give the soon to be released game a backstop right?

alpine nexus
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Halo CE began development in 1997. The novel was likely made after 1997 in a few months to a year, based on Halo CE

peak vigil
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like take a look at halo ce

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the covenant are literally in every level

tawdry kestrel
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They aren't in the Library

alpine nexus
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It's almost like Halo is about the human covenant war, and yet they forgot about the covenant part of it

tawdry kestrel
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Unless we count corpses.

hasty sedge
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It is rather dissapointing, the Insurrection was always salad dressing for the main conflict of the war, not the focus ifself

peak vigil
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yeah we literally only have 2 scenes with elites fighting

hasty sedge
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Makes the Covenant seem just some trival minor civilization

tawdry kestrel
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The Covenant?
What you mean, they clearly never had an important lore in Halo!

peak vigil
timid ether
peak vigil
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so

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that doesnt mean that there shouldnt be more covenant

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and more action

hasty sedge
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Would be nice to get some more focus on a war of extermination. Maybe find out why its happening. Can't argue the same as canonz where the Hierarchs think forerunners=humans, as this is an alternate universe

grim bone
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Meh

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Would be nice to get an actual Halo show but I think I’m asking for too much

hasty sedge
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Maybe

little spindle
tawdry kestrel
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Pretty much.

hasty sedge
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You are correct

tawdry kestrel
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Alas Halo at the start wasn't exactly Halo.
The first version of it was some RTS I believe, akin to modern army vs aliens.

little spindle
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Indeed

tawdry kestrel
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Then it was a third person shooter.

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And then it was an FPS as we know it.

little spindle
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Haha 3rd person Halo looked cool tbh

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But I hope the Covenant are represented well. Bring out the Grunts and Jackals, showcase more of their arsenal, etc.
Heck, I hope we even get an Arbiter at some point

tawdry kestrel
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We should get Monkee

little spindle
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I wonder...will the Banished make an appearance at some point?

hasty sedge
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Doubtful, as during this time they were more focused on just building up their power and resources with the Covenant still around

tawdry kestrel
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The Banished are just tax evadors/draft dodgers at this point

little spindle
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I was referring to a later season but yea. I'd say assuming the ring is found soon, and given the nature of this alternate timeline, the Banished could show up at any time after the ring is found and dealt with. But again, it's only a possibility

hasty sedge
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Mhm

tawdry kestrel
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I mean

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they barely told us what the hell the Covenant is.
Putting in le monke faction would be even more confusing.

hasty sedge
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I wouldn't be surprised to be frank, the story is weird enough as is. We have what thus far has been an almost evil UNSC, soldiers who act more like machines than man, and aliens who for no reason are trying to attack them

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Least in canon, we were told why the war was raging, even before CE was actually released

cobalt pagoda
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I just want Riz and Vannak to not die .

hollow oasis
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Protect Vannak

vale shadow
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I want kwan to die or disappear from the series, and then it will be acceptable.

rotund hamlet
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Their inclusion in the universe has never landed right with me

little spindle
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Fair

rotund hamlet
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If a mainline game couldn't properly show the Banished's initial ideology in-game, I don't think Paramount could do so either

tawdry kestrel
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Why does music suck nowadays

tropic stratus
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Thats also a good question

hybrid quail
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is episode 4 out

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oh it is

rustic relic
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Can anyone explain me why the halo series is in total 9 episodes ? Was it not 10 ?

dreamy stirrup
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it's been 9 as far as we've known

placid frigate
wanton plover
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This is reminding me of the "LOTR superfans" amazon got to review their show.

Except none of them were actual fans. They were random people without actual influence in the Tolkien fandom.

So who the heck are these "halo superfans"? Why didn't they get HiddenXperia or LateNightHalo or even ActMan??

idle pawn
alpine nexus
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HiddenXperia probably knows more Halo lore than the entirety of 343 industries

idle pawn
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he only fanboys about some of the lore like the Flood but he has on ocassionally got stuff wrong on the lore. He's not at all knowledgeable about lore like Halo Canon.

little spindle
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Wrong but go off 💅

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(No, I'm not being that serious)

outer linden
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Halo lore is boring lmao

little spindle
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Eh. I'm not a lore guy, but to each their own I say

hearty ether
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Check out his lore Playlist

ocean mason
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master cheeks

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no one likes master cheeks?

austere oracle
idle pawn
austere oracle
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echo chamber diminishes my subjective view on the show - im not disliking the show because others do - i dislike the show because it is bad

tawdry kestrel
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THe goold ol argument "People whine because it's not like CE"

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Which has happened exactly like

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2 times

austere oracle
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it just boils down to the showrunners and the writers. actors are fine they were just given shoddy material to work with

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(just getting ahead of the "you just hate it because its a girl killing the night king" argument)

idle pawn
tawdry kestrel
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Yes because the fact that Chief takes of his helmet = It's not like the gameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

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It's not like you know, Chief in the main lore wouldn't take his helmet off in most of those cases either because you don't take your helmet off in unknown/hostile terrain

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Literally one of the first things Spartans were taught

idle pawn
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He's not in combat, why wouldn't he be taking off his helmet?

tawdry kestrel
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Nobody would have an issue if he took it off in some logical place I suppose.

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Alas, the qoute that a character known for his helmet takes off the helmet is hardly an issue of
"Show bad cuz it's not like games" lol

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Of course, the argument of yours saying that is the only issue (while it is a really minor part of all the issues people have) also ignores - you know - a loooooooot of other arguments why the show is bad.
And yes, there are plenty of those made on (in?) every Halo community.

pastel stump
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I just see it an ok show, it's not the best and not the worst, it delivers for me as a typical series that you watch it in the couch in Sundays because there is nothing interesting to watch and that's it lmao

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People are way heated with the show

tawdry kestrel
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Probably because it's the first time Halo does actually get big attention on the silver screen and not only does it a poor job of adapting said universe but also has a vast majority of the characters very OOC.

I'd get pretty heated too if I got something bad but people told me to get over it because "At least you got a show!"

pastel stump
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Idk, I still find it pretty much a ok show that is not even canon so 🤷‍♂️ kinda pointless to get upset about it

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If you don't like that ok, in ther end of the day is just that, a show

idle pawn
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Its literally a seperate universe, they've said this from the start. Even then the show nails the look & asthestic of Halo. MCU does the same thing & I don't see Marvel fans complaining how characters are different from the source material of the comics.

tawdry kestrel
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Oh no I'm explaining the wider community POV.
I watch the show as the good ol drinking game.

tawdry kestrel
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Unlike, you know, Halo - with the singular canon timeline it had since it's creation and was always coherent?

mellow hollow
tawdry kestrel
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As someone already mentioned in this chat (or the spoiler one)
A universe is more than just looks, it's the characters, it's the factions and their actions/personalities alike.

idle pawn
tawdry kestrel
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If you take both of that and make them completely OOC then it is a poor adaptation.

tawdry kestrel
pastel stump
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It literally ignored the Fall of Reach until 343 took over and had to fix it and making sense

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Also, is not the first adaptation videogame to media that literally ignores the principal canon and it will not be the last one

mellow hollow
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Fall of reach was written by an independent writer and never considered canon

pastel stump
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It was never considered by Bungie even for Halo wars

tawdry kestrel
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Pretty much all the books except Harvest would be considered written by an independet writer tho.

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Anyway maybe I don't have the full picture, I only got into the wide lore after 343 fixed Bungo's issue with Reach

mellow hollow
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The games are considered prime canon over books, shows, ect

civic pelican
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the legendary version of Halo Reach had Halsey Journal (written by the author of Fall of Reach, Eric Nylund) that was the attempt to straighten out the incongruities between the book Fall of Reach and the game Halo Reach...

ancient schooner
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ahhhh

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that makes sense, like a prequel to a fistfull of arrows

tawdry kestrel
rustic relic
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Which day is there coming a new episode everytime ?

civic pelican
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new episodes drop on thursdays.

rustic relic
glacial widget
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I love master cheeks

wispy vortex
glacial widget
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I also love master chief

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Ngl I loved pablo in american gods so I know he’s a good actor which is why I’m fine with no helmet

tawdry kestrel
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Is the tv series actually decent, I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s crap

rustic relic
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I really like te serie so far

sudden berry
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Although they definitely take some aspects from it

rustic relic
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First episode was perfect😭

glacial widget
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Cgi in the first fight was abysmal

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But i did love the bit where chief was returning to reach

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That and the creation of cortana have been my favourite moments

rustic relic
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All episodes are just amazing

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If only they had released all episodes at once

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I don’t want to wait

sudden berry
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i think there's gotta be some scene or something in either the next episode or the one after

glacial widget
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Have you guys not seen the trailer for next episode

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??

rustic relic
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I saw it a bit but closed immediately. I don’t want to get spoiled it’s just a 50min episode so i dont want to see any spoilers

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There is action coming i know

burnt gust
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I wonder if Samuel L Jackson would play as Sgt. Johnson…

glacial widget
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It would be funny if they got Keith David to do it

tawdry kestrel
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they should make masterchief shoot something

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i think thatd really ease a lot of the issues people have with the show

tribal sable
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I wonder why they included nudity in the show do you guys know?

glacial widget
rotund hamlet
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Give leets cheeks or it's just cowardly, lol

heady halo
golden kiln
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Up next chief in a fire fight nood.

cosmic willow
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I also like how people are more concerned with cheeks but not kids getting merked left and right

tropic stratus
spring raptor
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I made posters for Halo The Series ☺

cosmic willow
tropic stratus
sharp lantern
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Master Cheeks

spring raptor
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I cant send pics:( and idk if i gonna get ban if i send the url

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If I broke a rule by sharing the url of the posters, please mods let me know and don't ban me :((

spring raptor
dreamy stirrup
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You’re fine

alpine nexus
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Banned*

hollow notch
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Series bad

tawdry kestrel
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Those posters look sick mate

ocean aurora
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I’m on a Neill Blomkamp movie binge and all it’s done is make me sad that he was never approached for the show, even with Landfall under his belt and all the reused Halo props in his movies.

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Like, come on. He’s THE Halo guy, let him shine. Let Halo shine! thinkingchief

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It’ll never happen though.

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It would just make too much sense.

timid ether
# ocean aurora I’m on a Neill Blomkamp movie binge and all it’s done is make me sad that he was...

tbf looking at landfall today. it looks just so awful. The brutes are not lit correct. the darks and highlights dont match the sorrounding and lighting on all cg objects. overall color grading is far off. the only thing that covers it up is the ultra shaky cam. And there is nothing to compare against the tv show. its just a singular action scene that is not even 6min long. It dosnt tell any story whatsoever. it sure is a fun watch. but cant hold up with anything we got today

idle pawn
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Blomkamp is overrated, he hasn't made a good movie since District 9.

timid ether
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even like oats studios. there are nice and fun short films. but then they are either just 3min of pure cg or the ones that actually have a good story which i def would love to see as movie or series are like 4 years old.
There has to be enough reasons why he didnt get the chance to do the movies he were supposed to make. He was in the run for a new Aliens movie, then a new Robocop movie and none of them became a thing (well a different robocop (2014) became a thing but that was ...oof)

verbal fox
minor python
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Landfall is a trailer. For a trailer it did what it was meant to do. Convey a feeling of desperation, gritty combat and and maybe tease investors on what could be done with the property. The props are of same quality you'd see in a movie and a lot of people are rooting for more of that. If you're looking for story, the live action ODST trailer portrays a good and simple one that's more cohesive, even if it's super brief.

past sedge
minor python
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Also yeah, landfall had an bad A warthog

spring raptor
robust marsh
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Landfall is 100x better than this series.

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Not even close

cunning star
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the shows problem looks to be the writing and creative direction IMO. the set, environment, etc are good. but the writing, creative direction it looks to be going in, just isnt halo

past sedge
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It’s not horrible I’m interested in the plot and I think the floods gonna be In it

ocean aurora
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He knows how to shoot CGI heavy productions without blowing the budget while still looking grounded. Clearly he has a very strong passion for Halo and military SciFi (which Halo hasn't had strong MilFic in ages). Made what was basically a no-budget backyard test film that perfectly captured Halo's essence. I'm shocked he was never once asked by 343i to do anything Halo related. IIRC he's said he wants to, but they've never contacted him.

rugged token
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Who?

ocean aurora
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Blomkamp.

rugged token
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Oh

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googles

hidden matrix
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Anybody learning the Sangheili from the show?

heady halo
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Nope

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You?

tawdry kestrel
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Hey I am planning to watch the show on paramour as I still haven’t watched it yet. Is it as bad as it seems?

heady halo
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Yep

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Wont recommend

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It’s terrible

tawdry kestrel
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Cause im still watching red vs blue

heady halo
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Red Vs Blue is better than the series

tawdry kestrel
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So I was just wondering if I should start the 1st ep

tawdry kestrel
heady halo
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Seriously

tawdry kestrel
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Ok I’ll probably watch it when the whole show is finished

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I’ll check the first episode out if it’s good or bad

timid ether
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I like it it's a good show. Has a 60% on meta so clearly more people like it then don't. But it's so close you gotta make up your own mind about that. Because nobody could every give you a valid opinion.

tawdry kestrel
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Alright I’ll check it out when im free

minor python
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You can rate something to be 3/5 and not like it, lol. That's a false premise