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They're a bit too comfortable showing naked people lmao.
I definitely think they’re pushing the TV-14 rating with a couple of shots (maybe not Chief ||taking out his hormone suppressor pellet||), but the massacre at the beginning of the show and the ||harvesting and murder of Halsey’s clone|| seem like plausible candidates.
not every episode has been TV-14. The first episode was TV-MA
Bro three sus scenes so far
The woman in the covenant, Master Chief’s scene which I guess wasn’t that sus probably, then the person who works with Halsey who attempted to kiss the clone?
The last one was weird
LOL, that was max cringe
Not gonna lie Lieutenant, that sounds pretty cringe
Yeah I never liked that scene, what was Halsey’s partner thinking?
Yeah that partner seems weird
Seems like he has some kind of attraction towards Halsey
He wanted to be cortanas step dad
Sus
This entire show is weird
What time*** does the new episode drop for EST?
The VA for cortana being cortana is awesome
It's one of the only things I can compliment about the show
But im almost certain it's the VA alone that does it for me, the dialogue is a bit too much on the cheesy AI side
It says tv-ma on IMDb
Interesting. On Paramount+ I’m like 99% sure it displayed as TV–14. But I definitely think it could go either way.
I don’t think you can have blood in Tv-14 and in the very first episode someone gets blown up into a red cloud
Also after learning the production hell this show went through it’s gone from a 7.5 to an 8/10
Like my god
What a nightmare
Jen Taylor is such a good actor she might carry this show with her acting.
Lol, I'm joking of course, she's a genuinely good actor but I don't think there's any actor that can carry this.
I'm going to watch the rest of the episodes skipping forward through all the boring nonsense, unless Cortana or a new character is on screen.
new episode when
Another week at least
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Eeeeeeewwwwwww the halo show
We talking about the next episode arleady? Its Wendsday where I am.
It died 5 years ago
SEVERAL people.
I just don't know what there is to be excited about with this show. 3 episodes in and It still feels pointless. Like am I supposed to be hype for a conflict between Chief and Makee ???
What if in the games, we meet a Monitor that's somehow figured out how to access other timelines, but it only complains how the timelines aren't what he expected, and that's how we realize he's incurably Rampant?
I guess it's not funny when the writers are the ones complaining about the fans.
Well, she’s not playing Cortana, just voicing her.
Eh same thing
they arent making it according to the game
Im ready to see him break her like a twig over his armor leg so...yes.
Probably wont happen, at least not yet, but I am eager to witness the capabilities of an augmented supersoldier on an unaugmented human.
is the halo series any good ?
Many have theorized that makee has prelade augmentations so she will be in equal conditions as chief
Meh, its ok i guess
it would have been better if the voice actor of masterchief voiced master chief and he didnt show his face
No
why
Bc if you want that play the games, this is different
According to the chief actor there r going to be in future episodes
ok
Last episode disagrees, but we shall see.
If shes basically a prelate Im cool with that too.
And yeah, chief voice is iconic dont get me wrong, also the who is behind that mask. But chief has been developed in books, comics and games, and by now he is not longer that avatar you can relate to, he is a well stablished character that has been discribed in books and even in TOFR animation. Also there are things that must be played without a helment on.
But whatever the ones who r going to hate wont really hear :/
Yeah it would be cool, we can see the huge advantage in bioengeeniring that the covenant has
And anyone can tell me how many hours r left for the release?
imagine if they bring rookie in the show
No, he is still an avatar
Who is dead, but his story begins at New Jerusalem and finishes in a counter terrorist mission with a bullet in his brain
Who will be cool would be Buck
Cuz the one who plays him is a tv actor so...
The episode?
It's really good, tbh, people are complaining about the fact that it's not following the game, and I get that- but it's not supposed to be halo canon/is a different timeline or fracture. I'd really recommend you watch it, the whole thing is pretty high quality 
Damn where is the 4 episode 🥹🥹🥹
Negative Infinity
Its release!!!
Ig the reception is divided
Yes, mostly negative
Once u ignore tthe games and look at the shows as its own thing maybe it isnt so bad
Yep!
Tbh idk if the actor in the show looks like how I imagine/want chief's face reveal to look like, but then again it isn't canon- yknow like how there's three different spidermen in the multiverse xd
And they have different faces
Noice
@dusky nova For your info, it's out about an hour from earlier whatever time it is
Usually a few minutes past an hour and 21 minutes ago
This episode 🛌 😴 💤
Thanks! So around noon in India.
Mostly negative from Halo fans who only ever pay attention to the games story & not the wider canon. Everywhere else has been positive from the casual audience.
I was expecting things to pick up this episode, but it keeps dragging, especially with the kwan story I wanted to snooze. Things were building up good last episode but it just fell flat here.
Not what I saw
Kinda mad that they showed his face. It’s the one thing that I hate about the series. I love that they give more info on his past.
you know that its not his past? that its only the shows chiefs past. not canon past
Same
YouTube has the first episode
ive seen the first 3
Wasn;t it taken down for having too many dislikes?
Really?! Lol I haven’t checked
Yeah I saw that on r/Halo
Maye just be some region lock bs
Was John independent in the actual canon
Independent?
Yeah that's just some TV show random stuff lol
In fact in the main canon Halsey literally calls what TV show Halsey did the dumbest idea they could go with when it comes to Spartans
His overall mindset remains the same in actual lore: defend humanity no matter the cost.
I mean I get why in the tv show they want to control him tho
Spartans are dangerous
Spartans are soldiers, not some bloodthirsty sociopaths lmao
We know
its gone, it was only available for a week, Paramount kinda does it with all their debut shows.
So if they clearly don’t care about nudity why they change cortana in the first place
Spoilers go in the other chat
I haven’t seen the newest episode yet. Are we still following this random B plot with Kwan?
|| Yes ||
They are pushing for binary stuff less reveal and what not cortana included
Is e4 worth watching if the whole Kwan narrative doesn't interest you in the slightest? Just want to know what I'm getting myself into.
is ep 4 good or nah?
another one? I thought it was only chief and the covenant woman
Good to know, thanks 👍
Don’t mention any leaks real or fake
Almost 4
Its from the declassified video that Paramount posted
In the background, as the director is talking about shots and storyboards, there is mention of Episode 5 featuring a battle on one of the boards
Then it’s not a leak? So why pass it off as one
Ah, well I don't think Paramount intended for anyone to read the Storyboards and see it
That's why I said leak, cause I doubt Paramount's intentions
i wish they utilized the theme from the games more
is Miranda Keyes lesbian in the lore?
No I dont think so
not that theres anything wrong with being lesbian, but in the latest episode i got some mad vibes from kai and miranda during their "lets keep this our little secret" scene and i kind of wish the show would stop trying to sexualize halo lol
really don’t know why every episode needs a nudity scene
WHAT
😩
To prepare the audience for the eventual love scenes
Yikers
mhm
Is the whole plot of season 1 just him searching finding seeing the ring for himself then end of season 1
This show is extremely lacking and trash
is this because we havent had an action scene since episode 1 (even tho we have had action scenes)
Episode 1 was also about the ring
They found the object to begin looking into the ring
So. Will they need to bring the other artifact to the bigger one as the bigger one is in a pillar of stone that’s possible connected to the who planet. Also it is Forerunner tech right? Not precourser
Lazy writing
Right 343?
Oh and plus
They really love to see Master Chief naked
Like some scenes are really badass, but then are suddenly put to a full stop and some meaningless slow scene is played and just bores me and ruins all of my enthusiasm
Fun fact I almost got caught getting in trouble at school for watching the Master Chief naked scene
I’m starting to question why I’m even watching the series
Tbh yeah I’m losing interest too.
Episode four wouldve been better if it didn’t show
Actually it’s been hours I think everyone watched it
Don’t you think?
I think thats because the artefact is an important part of the plot
😐
Artifact
Artefact
They both sound the same sir?
its like color and colour
I grew up spelling it Artefact
It may be true that it’s a noun but to me I pronounce it artifact
Noun word for artefact
Artefact and Artifact are pronounced the same 😹
One is the American English version and one is the British English version
this
exactly
But yeah show🤢🤢🤢
Makes sense since I’m from America and pronounce it Artifact
I might not watch the next one again
Since I lost interest after episode 4
pronounce spell
so i guess next episode is Soren's turn to get butt naked.
YESSSS
No Covenant but buttshots are an integral part of what makes Halo, Halo.
PREACH
Or maybe Cortana
Was I getting some romantic vibes from Kai and Miranda at the end there or am I just reading too much into it?
To the people that are really enjoying the show, what is it that you anticipate seeing every week in this timeline?
bare naked butts
It’s a new and fresh take. Don’t know what’s next. If it was canon during this time period, we would know what is coming next and not have the thrill of it. However, it has been a tad slow…but I’m honestly just happy for some Halo content
To make a serious critique now, it pains me to say this because i fundamentally like the characters, but i'm really not a fan of the Kwan Ha subplot. I think they could do a spin-off series with her and Soren and it could be awesome potentially, but as a Halo series it really feels out of place to me. It makes me think that we haven't see pretty much anything about the Human-Covenant war thus far.
i mean chiefs past. because the only part of the past we see is in halo 4. im pissed that hes face is shown but other than that im perfectly fine with the show.
Pablo Chief's past is too different to be associated with Master Chief's past
I like that its kinda accurate to the books with how the world is built but I dont like seeing chief without the helmet all the time and the side characters actors vary in quality, the casting could have been wayyy better
I agree with MC's helmet, like I get why they made the decision to remove it but I also don't like how it seems to constantly be off, but again it's just to highlight the emphasis on humanizing him more in this timeline.
I could stand removing the helmet if they had stayed true to his original character, but instead its a completely different character all together because of all the changes they made.
I wonder if we’re going to see flood
But really, it does help further separate him from The Master Chief
emocheif is not a good master cheif
He took of his helmet in canon
You can't use canon to argue for why Chief should remove his helmet in a non-canon show. Which is why I constantly argue it should have been canon to begin with and debate from that perspective
Angered Fans: Dude, what the heck, Chief shouldn't be removing his helmet.
Supporters: He did it in Canon
Angered Fans: Why did you make all these changes then? They are dumb
Supporters: Its the Silver Timeline
But people still use canon to critique the show even when what you said is true
Its a one way street, Mystic.
Since the TV series is not canon, canon cannot be used to justify events within it. Otherwise, why not make it canon?
And of course people will use canon to critique it, because people wanted a Halo Story
but if its not canon why does it matter
good episode, really enjoyed it
when they said halo and it played the theme it gave me chills
And Why can you not use it to justify the show but you can use it to critique it
Because after 9+ years of development and many hopes and dreams and wishes, and a significant Halo content starve, people want an authentic Halo Story, and are disappointed when its not
But dont use canon to critique go for the writing or the character development dont bring up things that happen in canon to critique the show if you cant use it to justify it
there are other ways to pick apart a piece of media than Referring to the source material
Like ive said before most of the criticism is basically fans going "This didnt happen in lore canon, its dumb' when talking about the show
Its like a logical argument structure.
Take this
If you play Halo, you have an Xbox.
You don't have an Xbox, therefore you don't play Halo
That in itself is a fallacy of argument
I dont see the analogy
same lmao
Eh, its too abstract to pass along here
Halo, the games and books and everything else, existed well before the TV Show. The show only exists because of it, therefore you can use what came before to judge what comes now.
I just don't see the point of arguing over it. The show is what it is. Take or leave it IMO.
Shut it down and make an authentic Halo story
For me, it’s just simple why I’m starting to lose interest.
3 exposition episodes in a row, no real Covenant action since the first episode.
However, you can't making something new, but then disregard what came before but also use it. What sense does that make logically? Its like taking a piece of evidence you have. Some of it proves you are right, most of it proves you are wrong, so you just ignore the parts that prove you wrong and only show the parts proving you right
lol
How can you argue in the same breath that Chief removed his helmet in lore while also advocating its an alternate timeline. They are opposite and they mutually disprove the other
so anyway, can't wait for episode 5
The episode with mindless action that will distract the audience from all its problems
Im fine with people not liking the show I just dont like it when people use the canon lore to critique the non canon show
While I don't support accusing fans of not being fans for liking or disliking the show, I get a strong vibe of apathy from those supporting it for the most part, while those disliking it have been far more visceral. That's not to mention the media itself accusing fans of not being true fans for disliking the show, or Pablo Schreiber's post that came off as elitist
That just sounds like apathy to what came before
Do thee have little pride in the Halo story we were once told?
lmao this is funny
thank you, I'll be here all week
and every week there is a new episode probably
Nae yet I fear as if the Tv Series is getting as the kids say these days " Railed in the behind" unjustly
Everyone has their own interpretation of what Halo feels like, based on what came before. That core canon is what made Halo Halo.
To many, its a slap in the face to both.
did you get in your daily usage of the word "perversion" in yet?
Well, as a show, and just a show, its okay. But you throw in the word Halo, it comes with a lot of baggage
I guess
Expectations, demands, hopes, dreams, wishes
Atleast thats how I was looking at it
When it doesn't live up to those, it feels like a perversion or a betrayal
there it is 👏
You know our motto, we deliver
I try sometimes, thank you
Take, for example, Halo 5.
There was a lot riding on the game, so many expectations, including ones promoted by 343 itself with its ad campaign.
And, to the majority of fans, it fell through. It was a colossal failure to most fans.
I was once like you though, and in 2015, despite the hate, I was apathetic. I just wanted to shoot aliens with Blue Team. That was enough for me, and I didn't necessarily pay attention to the hate. But it was absolutely warranted. After reflecting on the story itself, it was clear why fans hated it.
Then I thought, I criticized, and now, like most, I disliked the game. I wanted more Chief. I wanted more Blue Team. I wanted more Marines
here's my viewpoint. Do I find some decisions made in the show strange? sure, no denying that. Do I think it's bad? Not at all, but that's to be expected after being a part of a franchise for 20 years and replaying games and re-reading books over and over. My personal opinion is sure, somethings are strange, but not bad. It's my favorite universe creating a new and "what-if" type of story in the universe I love.
I just view it as an alternate take on the universe, and I accept that. I had ZERO expectations going into the show because I knew if I did set expectations they would be grandiose and never be fulfilled.
I mean, I have no problem with What-If stories so long as they are just that and aren't preventing the main course from being served in the medium
It would be like if the MCU only produced What Ifs and never did the full Avengers movies
Then again, I have no idea what the levels of expectations were when Iron Man came out
Too young to remember
you still have books and movies that will stick to lore, this is just a neat little side road detour that's fun to look at
But that's the thing Aegis, because of this show, I will might never get to see some of my favorite parts of Halo novels properly visualized.
I would love to see First Strike, Cole Protocol, or Ghost of Onyx visualized
We still haven't seen in canon the Spartan Smile visualized
Only read about
as would I but I dunno, maybe we'll get that at some point, maybe we won't. Life is full of disappointments, this franchise is known for them
That may be true, but the franchise has achieved success before. Blue Team got into Halo 5, despite doubts on ever seeing them in a game. Admiral Whitcomb got a canon visual appearance finally (with an epic moustache).
see, there is hope 🤝
It is possible, but hope is not always enough. Action is required
If there wasn't backlash over Halo 5, would Halo Infinite be as good as it is today?
ya ya, people aren't fans of the lack of content but that'll sort itself out eventually with time
The foundations are strong
very strong
Sitting around hoping for something to happen will change nothing
And while messaging in here everyday in and out may not make significant waves, its the best I can do without going for a midlife crisis or something
I understand
you're passionate about Halo, nothing wrong with that.
I'm passionate about it, just maybe in different ways
halo series is good, cry about it 😂
Yeah, I gave up on episode 3. I've got expectations, going to keep them. Just gonna sit back and let it burn at this point. /shrug
I've always viewed Halo from a creative viewpoint. Halo is essentially a collage of a whole bunch of different sci-fi tropes and ideas from movies and books that the people at bungie thought were really cool, wrapped in a unique and imaginative look and feel. From there it's a sandbox for the developers, authors, and fans to tell stories, add to its complexity. Retelling and reimagining is totally within the spirit of Halo IMO, and while I have my own critiques on the show, none of them are "they're disrespecting the canon"
Yeah, mine isn't 'disrespecting canon.' You adapt the story to the medium. Look at The Witcher, and the Metro 203X series. Great examples. This though... this? It's just not even a good story, nor does it feel in the 'spirit of.'
As a young kid and teen yes
I'll wait for something more in the line of 'Halo Landfall' trailers and the ODST ones.
But episode one of the Halo series and him taking it off was not a good idea
Insert ☠️ meme here
Yeah, pretty much. I'll probably be waiting forever.
I honestly don’t think those will be possible, unless we support this show. If this gets positive support, I think they can expand with spin offs and get us an ODST show. But that’s just IMO
Yeah, that's called an abusive relationship. No thanks, lol.
comparing a tv show you don't like to abuse is laughable sorry, I can't even entertain that
Haha yup. But if this fails horribly, I don’t think they’ll be inclined to do it again
Read what DT posted Owl.
I mean, its a bad reference, but he's not wrong.
If The Series succeeds, they'll make more of the series, without change
Support something bad hoping to get something good later?
If it fails, they'll stop entirely
I don't really agree with that either. Support the show if you like it, but if you don't, why bother?
It's not a bad comparison at all. Abusive, appeasement, whatever. No thanks, lol.
There won't likely be an in-between
I'm not saying there will be.
Appeasement is a better comparison, I would just avoid comparing it to real life relationships unless you are fully committed to standing by the statement
Fair, just seemed to flow anyways
If y’all are still watching this show after how much negative comments there are, then y’all are already wipped into a bad relationship. Lol
I am hate watching it, so I can stay informed enough to say its bad
Uh continously. He does at the end of CE, begining of 2, end of 4
Anyway my take is this: I much prefer to get a strange, all-over-the-place show that has its own ideas and interpretations of the halo universe, than a faithful adaptation that adheres to the original visions of dozens of different authors
How many times does Chief take off his helmet in a visual medium AND the audience sees his face
I don't watch or not watch things based on what people say online
I think halo fans arrent used to unfaithful adaptations lol, if you look at spiderman, he literally changed atleast 5 times
Well, Spiderman also came from something that had multiple different canons
I meant as in those who continuously are negative about the show, continue to watch the show for whatever reason
I would rather have something new than just a rehash of the old. I find this chief awakening storyline really interesting. Chief in the games was literally a blank slate for you to fit yourself in. I dont understand why people think its a good idea to make him like the games. You cant see yourself in a TV show lol. TV show characters need actual personaility and emotion
yeah, I would rather not watch it and be able to complain about it without people disregarding my opinion. Alas, such is this world
I am giving it the first season to win me over. If I still don't like it at that point, i'll stop watching.
To each their own
No, no no no. There are books, Mega, so many books. The first book even came out weeks before Halo CE. People wanted THAT John. People, I think, believed they would never get a 1 to 1 adaptation, but they wanted at least a ball park adaptation of the foundational lore and character, not a 99999999 to 1 adaptation.
John has had a significantly fleshed out character in those books. He had worries and wishes and dreams and nightmares
We aren't getting that John at all, just a poor imitation
A completely different character
And my hottest take yet, which explains why I enjoy watching the show: aside from a few outliers like the forerunner novels for example, I've found most of the halo novels and extended canon to be kinda mid. Halo's actual story is surface level at best most of the time.
lol, then you don't actually like Halo that much?
I actually love halo
just most of the supplemental fiction is kinda loose
You could get me talking for hours upon hours about halo 2's cutscenes, or the origins of the flood
I'm getting annoyed at how much John has his helmet off, like I don't care they did a face reveal but he's spent more time with his helmet off than on
Kind of funny, I didn't care for the Forerunner trilogy. I didn't think it was necessary to the story
I think some of the expanded books do a good job of exploring human nature, much better than this show has attempted
the forerunner trilogy is a mess of a trilogy, Infinite may be the third entry but it hardly feels like it due to it setting up a new story
Less inflated drama
and Halo 5 was a lackluster continuation from 4
my biggest problem with the TV show is how hard it leans into Halo's least interesting parts, which IMO is all the military sci fi stuff. Halo always had this undercurrent of mythology to it. Halo to me is an epic combo of war story/space opera/cosmic horror, but the show seems more interested in being like The Expanse
Oh im talking about the book trilogy
oh well lol I haven't read that
But i agree with what you said
I have the opposite thought to a degree. They didn't go into the military sci-fi aspect at all, rather doing a full blown political and soap opera aspect instead
The storytelling is disjointed, no cohesion. I get the impression they had no vision for the story and winged it
More like they had a story and tried to force Halo into
after the most recent episode I'd tend to agree.
oh well, hopefully things improve
the show was renewed for a season 2 so we'll see if that gets cancelled or not
Yeah, its like they have a story they come up with on a whim and then have to incorporate Halo as that is their purpose, but they keep forgetting
😆
I mean I like the stuff with Chief, Halsey, Cortana and whatnot
the Madrigal stuff just isn't that interesting to me
I don't care about it
I think Halsey is pretty good, though that plot is a little slow
Focusing on the rebel stuff would make sense either pre covenant or post. Not now, it divides the story and muddles it
I like the cast for the most part, and the production design is fantastic by TV standards. I'm mostly interested in how they'll explore the covenant and the flood conflict. I feel like the show isn't dynamic enough to do that stuff justice
imo they should have used Madrigal in the first episode as the introduction then left it alone
Just finished episode 4. My favorite thus far
like, Halo 2 and 3 in particular aren't afraid to do more stylistic, somewhat corny stuff like aliens speaking english, heroes spouting one-liners, or an intergalactic parasitic compound intelligence speaking in verse, and it's that style and tone that makes it all work. When they morph it into this edgy tv drama they kind of sap out a lot of what's special in the first place. The music in the show isn't bad by any stretch, but it also sounds like what you'd hear in really any other show
Irellevant to the canon
Nah, it's mostly Halo show bad, am watching
Good luck to those who don't like it and are going all the way through
Aliens speaking english is so that you can understand them. They are still canonically speaking alien
And the canon is irrelevant to the show. Stop using it to defend its' atrocities, then ignoring it when it doesn't support your point
I see you too, Reddishcarp, feel free to enter the conversation at your leisure
Yeah I'm talking about the presentation of it. It's a style choice. Although the show seems to be making a fairly big deal out of the language barrier, so maybe it's a choice that's actually going somewhere¯_(ツ)_/¯
I do prefer when they speak English, as in Halo 2 when they do so its so visceral and so much easier to distinguish individual prophets and other aliens. While I appreciate them inventing a language to speak, its just... not nearly as impactful
^
Its great when its Human vs Covenant scenes, but when its just the Covenant (like Makee speaking with the Hierarchs), them all speaking English would just be far more entertaining to watch, rather than me reading subtitles
Basically Kwan isn't interesting,she is boring
The show having a secondary main protagonist is the biggest problem with it in the first place. There’s no need for a side-plot.
Yeah
to make this show way better we need the halo reach exodus rats
We know, the UNSC isn't all good, but a whole side story of a girl leading the insurgents while their is a whole alien race fighting the UNSC is not what I want to watch
And the war itself isn’t treated with much urgency in this show. It’s presented more like a conflict involving small scale skirmishes here and there instead of a galactic struggle in which humanity is being pushed farther and farther back.
I don't recall proper if it's accurate from the campaign but I can't help but notice the robocop level "thumps" each time the spartans take a step.
I mean, they weigh half a ton. I expect some thumps lol
They are 7 foot tall monsters in power armour that weighs half a ton
I'm fine with them making thus, I however can't unheard the exact same sound effect being used for robocop, also I went back and checked they never sound like that in the games
See man I just don’t care it sounds awesome so I like it
Chief was pretty thumpy in Halo 4
This is for the better if most of the fanbase and newcomers are in the dark about the Halo universe
fair enough, I do hope they get into it as the show goes on though
I also hope that if the show goes on, it attracts more writers and directors from other projects
My only real concern is how the show will portray the flood
I don't know why the fandom is obsessed with adding suspense to the flood when it goes against their nature, but the budget and presentation of the show doesn't give me hope about the showrunners caving to this headcanon.
It's in their name, THE FLOOD. They are supposed to swarm at you with guns and infection forms the instant a... "biologically diverse" organism walks into the room
The budget of this season is something like 90 million dollars, which is in the game of thrones ballpark, so I expect they'll put the money in it when they get there
Next episode looks incredible
Most of the money went into keeping actors on retainer and other costs due to Covid
The were halfway through filming when the pandemic hit and then start filming again and the second wave hit
It’s a massively inflated figure
Ya the flood are the exact opposite of that they are meant to be direct and aggressive. Terrifying in their need to consume. Not hidden and conventionally scary
Like the nids or the Zerg
But somehow more horrifying
do we have numbers on season 2's budget? Since it's been ordered by paramount they would have to have sorted it out by now
either way, the show is changing hands to a new set of showrunners after this
to nitpick a little, they're hidden right up until the covenant breach Halo's admittedly very lax containment
They are hidden by force not by choice
Probably for the best
Budget isn’t finalised untill days before filming
forerunner installations seem to just come with flood samples in every little nook. But yeah, doing the flood in live action is tough, because it's basically Alien plus The Thing amped up to a million. It's the kind of thing that's hard to pull off. The only tv show I've seen pull off anything at that scale is Game of Thrones's wight armies and battle sequences in later seasons. And that's thanks to both a very high budget, and top notch directing and photography
too bad the writing on that show got so bad
Spider episode in mandalorian
The show runners here can't pull it off as youtubers are creating better looking cgi.
As fans of a franchise this large we shpuld be holding the showrunners to a higher standard as right now bat woman on cw is more accurate to the material than this show. Justifying this show is only going to continue the bad writing, effects, and keep giving us more emo cheif
That’s was horrifying
I’ve always wondered why the flood left chief alone until he picked up a plot device
Sorry have you seen the opening of episode 4.
Please show me what you tuber can create something like that
I gave up
The only bad cgi is at the very beginning
Like the giy hired by Disney when he fixed Luke in mando?
Everything past that is absolutely incredible
It still isn’t great mate
But you think this is?
Better but when he’s talking the uncanny valley hits hard
Post madrigal 100%
Also Disney Need to rip off the bandaid and get Sebastian Stan to be luke
Maybe, I still don't believe from clips I've seen, but writing hasn't and them missing whole point of halo is just sad
What clips have you seen
Everything POST MADRIGAL has been absolutely incredible
Really not gping to have this disagreement. I conceded maybe it has
The opening shot of episode 4 has some of the best CGI I’ve ever seen
Come on now
And again higher standard maybe cgi is better but this is a cheap cw show
Emo cheif is terrible
It’s just not mate just watch the opening shot of episode 4. Cgi is absolutely stunning
I will if you admit this isn't halo!
Where can I find a citation for this? All can find is a reference that the budgets were ~10million/episode. I'm interested to see this source....
Ok ill watch it my request might have been a stretch
They could scrap the whole cast minus Halsey and Cortona
Alan Richerson from Reacher for master cheif!!!!
Definitely Fred-104 (if you can't get Travis Willingham to do it)
which one is he?
Travis is Grog Strongjaw from Critical Role and he'
s the voice actor for the games
I'll look him up
he's a decent-sized dude I met him in person a few years ago.
Thry really miscast cheif
Alan has the size and look and his stoic look in reacher was more master cheif than pablos
Yeah..that's why I thought he'd be good for Fred. (looks like him too)
Ok now I'm interested
I can’t remember but I believe it especially with the strange difference in quality between the show. I think the 10mill and episode figure was just taken by looking at the whole budget and dividing it by however many episode there were when that’s not how it works
I would love the ngl he can keep that helmet off all the time. His jaw would deflect the plasma
It’s not halo as we know it but I’ve played those games 100 times. I want something new
So far I’ve not been impressed by Episode 4.
Paramount Plus is banking on it: With a budget running more than $10 million per episode, “Halo” (already renewed for Season 2) (https://variety.com/2022/tv/features/halo-series-paramount-plus-master-chief-1235205361/)
Fair
Ya that’s not how it works
Try again
Why are they deleting comments?
Maybe you should talk to the writers of Variety I showed you my source....heh..show me yours.
Did you swear?
No I said I didn't want fan fiction
My uncle is literally a film producer. I can tell you that you don’t just take the total budget and divide it by the amount of episodes
That’s not how it works
COOL...did he work on Halo?
Tell your uncle halo needs help!
No but it’s the same all around
Haha.
then your argument is invalid.
So being honest but @robust marsh vid had the best take about halo I've heard
This
If that really were the case everything would look supercheap
So to the point about something different they could have done thst season 2 and maybe it would have worked but 20 years of fan base for a show/movie isn't something you do that on season 1
Episode will cost different amounts based on the actors involved the shooting location and the cgi
Then there wouldn't be such a divide. People would have fallen in love with characters and such then been more forgiving
Not every episode will cost 10m
When does Kwan become the blessed one?
What you on about mate
Seems like it would be next logical step for the direction of this show
No. It doesn’t
Completely does!
Tho I do not know why they went on this tangent
But I love vincher and soren so it’s not all bad
I mean we have a blessed one a naked over emotional cheif I mean why not!
Burn Gorman is a great actor
Blessed one is just a reclaimer
We are all reclaimers
No sir just cheif!
There a few actors/va’s that carry this show. Chief ain’t one of them for me unfortunately
Zach I'm also just messing around if you didn't know
I’m sure there are plenty of reclaimer all over the universe
You can also quite literally ignore episode 2 and it is like nothing happened because of scenes openings/endings
With how most people are like around this show I tend to find it hard to tell
I’m still rooting for the Jackal Sniper going for any spartan thats not wearing their helmet in conflict or tense areas
Time to give this show the Halo 2 Legendary treatment
Ok so Pablo in Den of thieves wpuld work for thos show, the acting that is Pablo cheif not so much
You don’t need action to have a good show
This soap show that is supposed to be “Halo” is also not really working for a “good show” in my honest opinion
I love tv, halo. I’m not a fan of Hollywood’s direction for films & series these past few years and I’m definitely not a fan of this fan-fic that’s supposed to be the well-awaited TV take on Halo
Truth’s or Regret’s
A cheeky Sangheili warrior. Can’t wait
Thanks for the shout out. I posted it in the share your content page if anyone wants to see.
I would imagine the reason thal isn’t part of the show is because they don’t want us to hate him. He was directly responsible for the death of billions of humans
Why would we hate him? Because of poor CGI? I don't see a reason why we would hate the Arbiter unless the writers specifically chose to alter his character/story. Maybe he's a grunt now. Who knows
But I am afraid Makee is this "Silver Timeline"'s replacement of the Arbiter. Saves them some money to use a human stand-in instead of having to use CGI
Probably the same reason why they used a human stand-in instead of a Kig'Yar
No because we meet I’m at the end of his villain arc and the beginning of his redemption arc. If we meet him now he was still glassing planets for fun
Her sisters cousins aunts mothers uncles brothers former roomate
I doubt we would feel the same about the arbiter if we saw him glassing reach
I personally wouldn't mind. Hell, I'd happily watch Grunts yolo their way into Colony outposts holding plasma grenades in all honesty. So far it has been drama central and the action has been incredibly limited
LOL
You need Setup for good action
I'd watch that
In Halo, we are all war criminals - Victor Reznow, probably
Most Halo characters have done something horrible and yet we love them
4 episodes worth of setup for action? and 5min setup for drama?
Humanity in general is as messed up as it comes. That doesn't just apply for the Halo universe. But this is more like an American drama/sitcom with lots of Wahman complaining rather than an actual Halo story that I'm used to from the novels and games. They even specifically said "Based on the Halo video game universe" at the end of E4
It’s 3 episodes and I would agree episode 2 was unnecessary
and episode 1, 3,4 and so on!
Photoshop is a crazy effective tool to draw smiley faces over everything. We tend to forget there's a lot of grass passed that x)
I had high expectations until the interviews prior to the series release. Toned it down, but remained cautiously optimistic throughout e1. When I saw that you could literally skip e2 because its nothing but a filler episode I toned my expectations down to "Oh, its just 343 pulling H5 story things all over again" and now I'm at the point waiting for them to show me otherwise. I was actually very surprised to hear Jen Taylor's voice. That actually brought me back to Halo for a moment, but then plenty of Master Cheeks moment for me to go: "You're ruining it". But we'll see. Next episode is next week
Episode 2 wasn’t filler
I honestly don’t think people understand what filler means
Yep
It’s stuff that doesn’t directly progress the plot
So pretty much the entire middle of mando season 1
Just because an episode doesn’t have action or isn’t as exciting does not mean it filler
So what progressed the plot in e2? Because you can literally overlap scenes between end e1 and start e3 and its like all that has happened is that a brat was dumped. Nothing gained, nothing lost.
Chief understanding that the keystone lead to a weapon. And soren getting kuan. Also chief understanding that he needed to take our the pellet or property understand the artefact
This show is so terrible lol
But isn't all of that also discovered later without the need of the stuff in e2? If they repeat ALL of it later through different characters, doesn't that make e2 pretty much void of necessity?
e3 and e4 basically explain or go through the exact same process, but through different characters/narrative plotlines. But that's on top of "more action". e2 has a sincere lack of that.
How would he have learned that halo is a weapon without meeting reth. How would he have gotten kuan to the rubble. WITHOUT GOING TO THE RUBBLE. He never would have know to take the pellet out without talking to soren
Keyes, Dump her (not much lost), Cortana
Cortana at this point is essentially an infant. How would Keyes know it’s a weapon?
Her job is too monitor chief for Halsey she isn’t the accomplice in Crime we know her as yet
She literally told Chief the gist of the pellet.
There's a lot that was explained through later episodes to only make e2 more void of material.
But thats my take on it
This feels like more of a spoiler chat conversation
Though I'm not exactly sure what conversations do belong here if spoiler is for any spoilers...
Negative
Sad
We had a Grunt reference and le needler tho
I feel as if they had more Halo-like elements in play, some of the negativity would be relieved. Tell me a silly grunt scene wouldn't warm the heart of any Halo fan
Ive seen bits and sections from the other episodes, but from what i can tell, it's got a star wars vibe going on. Could just be me tho
The lizard (reptile?) has a point.
True
Nah it's not as bad as the last SW shows.
Because while I'm not a fan of it, it's miles ahead of Book of Boba dialouge and writing
And... scenery.
And action.
Ah that's a relief
I hope the show does do well for those interested
Because they deserve it to be good, after all this waiting
I just want Blue Team back in the story.
Isn't silver team like blue team?
From what I've seen they definitely seem similar to me
But yea blue team would be dope and so would red team 👀
Hey so I'm just now watching the series and I'm trying to figure out what to think. So far I am disappointed about a lot I've watched episodes one through four and a lot of the story is just so disappointing
In apperance? Kindish?
Character? Didn't see enough of them, but I'm leaning closer to nah.
It's just not the same vibe as Blue Team.
Then again it's hard to repeat Fred getting a concussion
I see
Honestly that's probably a good way to describe my thoughts on this series
You're not the only one thinking this
It just seems like a miss, and then I see people trying to defend it on Twitter, and I'm trying to figure out why they decide to defend it. All I can come up with is that they are "fanbois"
it is sad as the standard for "good" tv is low right now. they put out some fan fiction low budget cw show and people are calling it amazing.
I feel like the show was purposefully created to divide the fanbase instead of unite it. And that is what makes me sad.
Though when even forward onto Dawn is better it's very disheartening to see what so called "professional film makers" do.
i feel showrunner pretty much stated it. this wasn't made for fans. its more they had a science fiction show they wanted to create but used the halo ip
I mean that's a lot of things nowadays it seems. It doesn't really center on anything it takes a lot of things from different IPS such as the Mandalorian game of thrones the expanse I'm sure there's other stuff that they've probably taken from. It just seems like they tried to make a Frankenstein's monster from bits of old franchises and tried to see if it would work and honestly I can say that what they did looks hideous to me at least.
Thanks by the way
They could have copy and pasted one of the games into a live action and it might have been watchable. I wish they did odst or even reach for 1 season then introduced the cheif myself
And the censoring on social media isn't helping them one bit
Arcane was gold!
What's the halo series password?
just watched ep. 4, was fine
hey now, you're not allowed to like the show. You're supposed to ridicule every aspect and talk about how trash it is /s
oh right, uhhh the vehicle props are ugly and look like powerrangers budget props
Yeah we don't like people like you here /jk
and uhhh soren has a revolver in the year 2500 unrealisitic because gun suppose evolve!!!!11!
That's the attitude. Good
But anyway. Agreed was a good episode. Lot of Charakter building and some things i don't like that much but fun to watch
there was way too much master chief memories tho
That dragged way to long
half the episode was just master chief walking around
but the character development was pretty interesting
Yeah. And kwans story is dragging on. And i don't know where it is going or where it connects to the halo n arc at all.
also she kinda gets annoying
Yeah.
like b**** youre supposed to be undercover stop yelling at everyone about the resistance
Soren carries her story so far
yeah true
But I'm still enjoying the show
same
Whos butt are we going to see in episode 5?
probably vannak or riz
I am so bloody happy rn
I wanted to see the Halo show with a very good friend but he moved out, now we're headed to his house to watch episode 4 which neither of us have seen
Who knows, maybe we'll play Infinite after that
Yeah i enjoyed episode 4 overall
the blessed one is back!
Hopefully the Arbiters
#cakes
We had fun
AMA
Revolvers are in core canon!
Lord Hood has one
Man I really give 0 cares about the Kwam storyline, stick to the covenant, the Spartans, Halsey and Cortana. The forerunner artifact. Just my opinion
I think the Halo Tv Series sucks to the long time fans, and is ok to new watchers. And even though it sucks the producers literally gave the finger to us fans, and the show could be better, its alright
Once I accepted that it wasn’t really canon It’s easier to go along w the flow of the story
Yeah same here, im watching the show with my grandpaps who doesnt know much about halo, so while i wish it was more about the games, its still nice
Though i agree no one cares about kwam storyline, we want spartans
Thats probably why shes there, so they dont have to constantly have the Spartans on-screen.
Yeah I don’t understand the point of her story, so there’s some humanity aspect to everything?
Wack. They better make up for her being there by making the halo ring look absolutely amazing
The CGI for them when they appear will presumably be as good as any previous Halo we've seen.
The surface might be slightly more complicated but I guess if nothing else, previous Halos we've seen do tend to have Pacific Northwest style enviroments
True, but lets hope they blow us out of the water. Least they can do for us fans is make the ring look nice
Was that a flood? In the weapon expert ladies dept? In a giant tube submerged, tendrils looked familiar
Also is it just me or do yall think that human chick working for the cov will get betrayed
might be a seperated hunter
Aaahh I see
It was badass when she used the worms that make the hunters body to take over the ship
cool af
True, i already knew they were dead when i saw the blue armored foot
But dear god, imagine the flood appear, they would look terrifying in 4k
I think she’ll realize that not all people are bad, that typical cliche arc….she’s only been exposed to the dark side of human nature so she despises humans. She’ll have that moment I believe when she sees the good
Man I hope we get the flood
That or the prophets betray her when she becomes useless. Idk bout yall but id never trust a prophet
I can see that happening also…she’ll end up having “unexpected ally’s” with the UNSC
Shes lucky it aint game UNSC, she'd be marked for dead already
Bruh 💀
They really made a wiki page on revolvers
That's a real nice gun
Meet CIA391, administrator of Halopedia

Nothing wrong with having a gun that works in any setting. Remember you can buy lever actions that do more damage and crack armor better than 'modern assault rifles'
Part of why I don't even blink an eye at people still using AK's in the series
What about the chevy
And the humvees?
I mean if that's what you brought with you to the colony? In places like that, you use what you have not what you want. The technicals with the mg's were stripped down humvees. Those things use engines dated back to the 1950s and can use avgas
Love the show
Eh fair
Who knows, maybe some weirdo brought the equipment to make chevy Tahoe's, lol
I mean heck in Iraq, I saw people driving freaking Ferraris north of Baghdad, 🤣
What the heck
Yeah, the place looks more ruined than fallout new Vegas in parts, but people and junk are everywhere. You run into all kinds of stuff
Got mortared one day only to find out the guys who hit us wheeled in the equipment with a wagons and a donkey
Soo... Yeah I'm not blinking at the rebels using any of that at all, lmao
What about that minigun in ep 1 that only becomes effective once master chief holds it
Shhh we dont talk about that
Uuuuh. Yeah they found a power up or something..... Cough
When you kno how to shoot bullet hits harder. 😉
He probably had better aim and recoil control idk
Considering kwan's dad doesnt even know how to press s, pathetic
Nobody's really justifying it. There's a lot of derp moments in the series. I do forget that average tv is like that
Actors may know how to move with firearms these days but not a lot of shows and movies know how to build really logical firefights
$10m per episode
Sadly that doesn't mean good decisions were made
Took some convincing of the team to let me keep that page aha
Now make one on john halo
Halo infinite shotgun is a revolver
No, its a revolvering shotgun
I thought it was a drum shotgun
It is a drum mag
Drum mags are basically revolvers though
Yeah if you look at the model the magazine isn't inline with the barrel, so it doesn't fire from the cylinder. Not a revolver
Ok I'm now at day with the show, it's ok
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I hope someone asked him to keep the helmet on
6/10. Main audience are people that own the fortnite master chief skin
Nice!
What? Where is the relation with fortnite on this lmao
None
Halo 2 or halo 2 anniversary
Halo 2 A is pretty. But they make some odd design choices. Like blinding you with the covenant carbine and taking away fog so you can see the flood clearly
Presumably in lore they were converted to run on hydrogen like basically everything else.
Possibly, who knows at that point. Could be paint thinner for the innies
Helium-3 since they're on Madrigal maybe?
Siphon some of that off the main production to fuel their vehicles lmao.
I got a theory on the minigun; it wasnt working till Chief picked it up cause someone put the child lock on it. When that Sangheili bodied the tecnical it was on the lock broke.
Maintaining a vehicle for 500 years and converting it to hydrogen would be so much more expensive than making a new vehicle
They just kept the platform for 500 yrs I assume
Not entirely out of place in existing canon, the Warthogs over a century old.
Sos the MA5 series, alongside several other weapons and vehicles.
My guess is Silver timeline humanity went through a period of "bring back the old to reenforce the new", especially on colonies like Madrigal.
Makes sense
Bringing back the old is often more expensive than making more of the new
Very little of the required equipment for constructing and repairing 500 year old vehicles would still be around
most would have been scrapped
Well, the Chevy Tahoe has been around for a while already now 😂. I wouldn’t expect the humvees to be much different.
Maybe they have some weird dude who made a Chevy Tahoe plant on the planet. Next to the AK factory
The innies just inherited those AKs from their great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers who fought in Vietnam
So if the Tahoe’s and humvee’s are “new”, the does that mean they still have an extended warranty?
Yes. But you have to comply with UEG environmental regulations. The colony was trying to scam them on it and Silver Team showed up to enforce the UEG EPA's edict.
This is what happens if you don't convert to burning clean hydrogen
Wait, what does an AK run on?
gunpowder
Stalinium obviously
Yes but if I remember certain guns are gas powered.
Certain guns have a gas operated bolt
Such as the AK
But the bullet is propelled by gunpowder
......lol
Would the gun have to convert to hydrogen…?
Baking powder.
Hydrogen would probably blow up the gun
Environmentally neutral until next Tuesday when the EPA gets a better deal
I know little about guns that don’t use foam darts.
Foams darts are not EPA compliant
I also have no clue what EPA is 😂
A local ODST squad will be visiting you shortly
Environmental protection agency
Ah ok
But yeah, most firearms these days. Auto/semi auto are gas operated. The expanding gas is used to load the next round
Imma go now, as fun as this debate is. Those ODSTs will be here soon.
I mean its THIER fault for not wanting to be able to literally fill their car with water of any kind and have it run for a day.
The UNSC gave them loads of options and benefits and offered to help them switch over but I guess some people just REALLY like the smell of gas coming out of their car.
Cue Silver Team about them extended warrenties...
No seriously, in core canon the Warthog runs on literally any water you put in it, the internal filter and hydrolizer splits it and cleans out the non-water stuff. Brackish waste, swamp water, stuff from a hose, even human liquid waste presumably works
You wouldn't be able to turn the water into hydrogen in the car though, it would take the same amount of energy to create the hydrogen as the hydrogen would produce
Wait, really?
They run on water?
Debunk: i think we saw one or more of the miniguns firing
So even if the one chief picked was malfunctioning before the others were still firing
Yet they did no damage
Maybe they missed every shot
Most UNSC vehicles that dont run on microfusion plants do
Liquid cooled hydrogen fueled internal combustion engines fed by desalinators and solar powered water splitters.
Minigun:coolness+20, accuracy-100
How have i not known this…
Its been easily 10 years that I’ve played halo and never know that.
Its only in the expanded lore, its never mentioned in the games. I dont think its brought up in the books either, its one of those weird little off the wall things
It makes sense, waters freaking EVERYWHERE on whatever colony world your on (bar super-deserts)
That makes sense.
how do they deal with only frozen water sources?
And technically its an infinite supply since the engine produces water vapor as a byproduct.
I THINK it even catches its own waste gas to ensure near constant fuel supply.
But the "gas cans" on the back of the Hog in 5 and Infinite are in fact water canisters.
Eh, not entirely impossible.
Water engines have been made before, but idk who made it. It certainly didn’t catch on tho.
The hydrogen produced could only make enough energy to create an equal amount of hydrogen
If you were somehow able to produce hydrogen and make the car move, just using the hydrogen produced from water, then you would have a perpetual energy machine
Only practical way to make a hydrogen powered car is to make the hydrogen at a plant somewhere using solar panels
Or wind
Can anyone tell me if the halo series is following the game/book series or are they doing their own thing? I feel like I know halo pretty well but this TV series seems to be off.
they just dont know how to aim
pretty sure theres no other "logical" explanation
Illogical explanation - They’re stormtroopers
its completely its own.
It's on it's own but people are complaining about the series not being a rock band of brothers that get killed off left and right
Ok. Thanks. I personally don't know how I feel about it now that I know it's not following the lore and everything else canon to the games and novels. Hopefully it picks up some more action though.
I want to huff the exhaust of 1970 mustang GT, I'll fite ur spartans
i dont want kwan to DIE:]
I do, her storyline seems kinda pointless atm
Pretty much all the characters are 1 dimensional, so no surprise her story feels pointless
honestly, ngl I like halsey. like compared to every one else, halsey is likeable
Her and Soren are the only likeably characters
She's likeable here?
She seems more in line with the monster ONI portrayal her as in canon
yea, shes the closest to the actual halo halsey
Closest? Compared to what? Canon Halsey herself?
Heck, she's shown as far more sadistic than Canon Halsey ever was. Inhabitr chips to remove emotions, slowly murdering her own. Fully self aware and sapient clone
Creating the greatest soldiers ever? Saving humanity?
yo I quite like the show ngl
It's not about what she has done that is the same as in canon.
It's about How she has done it
And show Halsey is much more evil than canon Halsey soo far.
nah
arguably cannon halsey was more evil
she didnt care about hiding from the kids the fact that they were kidnapped
she just told them to deal with it
and they did
and honestly im fairly sure cannon halsey did all the same things show halsey has
ok cannon halsey never wanted to override chief's consciousness idk wtf that was
otherwise show halsey just seem very pragmatic and a VERY good portrayal of the character
They turned Halsey into a projectile weapon? Amazing. ONI has clearly stepped up their cover-up ops.
ok fair enough lmao
I'd wager to say that kidnapping kids, erasing/supressing their memories, giving them emotion control chips and then smashing an AI into their brain for control is much more evil then just doing the first part and then telling them they need them to save mankind.
but it isn't exactly out of character for Halsey either.... it's very much the sort of thing she'd do... additionally whilst ik the hormone suppressant chips are portrayed very differently in the show as to the books, the Spartans still had them in the Canon
I wouldn't say one halsey is any worse than the other
Spartan's don't have hormone suppressant chips in the lore?
And no, it's not in character lol. Halsey literally says in the lore doing what TV Halsey did is a very stupid idea.
mmm.. i'll have to reread fall of reach but I'm very sure various hormones were supressed and added inorder to make the spartans what they were... i though it went into it in quite some depth
also when did lore halsey comment on the actions of tv halsey lmao?
Spartans got treatment to reach their puberty earlier, not to have their emotions and memories wiped XD
In Fall of Reach
well no not the memories, 1 sec, lemme read up on this
damn i need to be revising statistics not halo lore XD
but no you'd be correct in saying lore halsy never intended to surpress emotion
Yeah they never did that.
They just tought them how to focus on the mission.
Yeah it’s not in character for her lol. In the books they explain how she basically did the clones to try to give the families “closure” and so that she herself wouldn’t feel as bad
She wasnt all evil like how they’re trying to make her seem
Don't forget the fact tv Halsey killed a sapient clone for Cortana, without even knocking her out. Compared to Canon Halsey, whose clones lacked any sapientence.
I'm pretty sure in canon Halsey just cloned brains?
for a show about a first person shooter i expected more action
@tawdry kestrel pretty much, but they were within spindly, weak bodies
There is an image of them in Halsey's journal
But it isn't about a shooter
It's not based of Halo actually.
It's based of an Innie propaganda piece posted on waypoint.
Nope novels came First
@timid ether you do realize thr novel was made in only a handful of months, to give the soon to be released game a backstop right?
Halo CE began development in 1997. The novel was likely made after 1997 in a few months to a year, based on Halo CE
there's also barely been any covenant
like take a look at halo ce
the covenant are literally in every level
They aren't in the Library
It's almost like Halo is about the human covenant war, and yet they forgot about the covenant part of it
Unless we count corpses.
It is rather dissapointing, the Insurrection was always salad dressing for the main conflict of the war, not the focus ifself
yeah we literally only have 2 scenes with elites fighting
Makes the Covenant seem just some trival minor civilization
The Covenant?
What you mean, they clearly never had an important lore in Halo!
yeah but when people think of halo they think of the games not the books
The show is not CE tho
Would be nice to get some more focus on a war of extermination. Maybe find out why its happening. Can't argue the same as canonz where the Hierarchs think forerunners=humans, as this is an alternate universe
Maybe
This. Halo CE released after the book, the book was there to somewhat build hype/provide extra insight for the game. Halo CE began development long before a book about Halo was being written, as far as I know.
Pretty much.
You are correct
Alas Halo at the start wasn't exactly Halo.
The first version of it was some RTS I believe, akin to modern army vs aliens.
Indeed
Haha 3rd person Halo looked cool tbh
But I hope the Covenant are represented well. Bring out the Grunts and Jackals, showcase more of their arsenal, etc.
Heck, I hope we even get an Arbiter at some point
We should get Monkee
I wonder...will the Banished make an appearance at some point?
Doubtful, as during this time they were more focused on just building up their power and resources with the Covenant still around
The Banished are just tax evadors/draft dodgers at this point
I was referring to a later season but yea. I'd say assuming the ring is found soon, and given the nature of this alternate timeline, the Banished could show up at any time after the ring is found and dealt with. But again, it's only a possibility
Mhm
I mean
they barely told us what the hell the Covenant is.
Putting in le monke faction would be even more confusing.
I wouldn't be surprised to be frank, the story is weird enough as is. We have what thus far has been an almost evil UNSC, soldiers who act more like machines than man, and aliens who for no reason are trying to attack them
Least in canon, we were told why the war was raging, even before CE was actually released
I just want Riz and Vannak to not die .
Protect Vannak
I want kwan to die or disappear from the series, and then it will be acceptable.
I hope not
Their inclusion in the universe has never landed right with me
Fair
If a mainline game couldn't properly show the Banished's initial ideology in-game, I don't think Paramount could do so either
Why does music suck nowadays
Thats also a good question
Can anyone explain me why the halo series is in total 9 episodes ? Was it not 10 ?
it's been 9 as far as we've known
It was cut down from 10 to 9 awhile back.
But ultimately it doesnt matter as a Episode 10 will come out in the form of Season 2 Episode 1 ;)
This is reminding me of the "LOTR superfans" amazon got to review their show.
Except none of them were actual fans. They were random people without actual influence in the Tolkien fandom.
So who the heck are these "halo superfans"? Why didn't they get HiddenXperia or LateNightHalo or even ActMan??
Because those youtubers are not Halo lore fans.
HiddenXperia probably knows more Halo lore than the entirety of 343 industries
he only fanboys about some of the lore like the Flood but he has on ocassionally got stuff wrong on the lore. He's not at all knowledgeable about lore like Halo Canon.
Halo lore is boring lmao
Eh. I'm not a lore guy, but to each their own I say
Do you even know HiddenXperia?
Check out his lore Playlist
I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who likes this series at all 😂
Only if you're an echo chamber that whines about the tv show not being exactly like the games. Outside of that, there's plenty of people that like the show just fine.
echo chamber diminishes my subjective view on the show - im not disliking the show because others do - i dislike the show because it is bad
THe goold ol argument "People whine because it's not like CE"
Which has happened exactly like
2 times
it just boils down to the showrunners and the writers. actors are fine they were just given shoddy material to work with
(just getting ahead of the "you just hate it because its a girl killing the night king" argument)
Because it's true, literally most of who are dismissive of the show main arguments are literally about Master Chief taking off his helmet (nevermind the fact MC takes his helmet tons of times in the books & comics)
Yes because the fact that Chief takes of his helmet = It's not like the gameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
It's not like you know, Chief in the main lore wouldn't take his helmet off in most of those cases either because you don't take your helmet off in unknown/hostile terrain
Literally one of the first things Spartans were taught
He's not in combat, why wouldn't he be taking off his helmet?
^???
Nobody would have an issue if he took it off in some logical place I suppose.
Alas, the qoute that a character known for his helmet takes off the helmet is hardly an issue of
"Show bad cuz it's not like games" lol
Of course, the argument of yours saying that is the only issue (while it is a really minor part of all the issues people have) also ignores - you know - a loooooooot of other arguments why the show is bad.
And yes, there are plenty of those made on (in?) every Halo community.
I just see it an ok show, it's not the best and not the worst, it delivers for me as a typical series that you watch it in the couch in Sundays because there is nothing interesting to watch and that's it lmao
People are way heated with the show
Probably because it's the first time Halo does actually get big attention on the silver screen and not only does it a poor job of adapting said universe but also has a vast majority of the characters very OOC.
I'd get pretty heated too if I got something bad but people told me to get over it because "At least you got a show!"
Idk, I still find it pretty much a ok show that is not even canon so 🤷♂️ kinda pointless to get upset about it
If you don't like that ok, in ther end of the day is just that, a show
Its literally a seperate universe, they've said this from the start. Even then the show nails the look & asthestic of Halo. MCU does the same thing & I don't see Marvel fans complaining how characters are different from the source material of the comics.
Oh no I'm explaining the wider community POV.
I watch the show as the good ol drinking game.
Gee probably because Marvel and DC alike had characters go OOC for decades even within the same story arc and because they had a multiverse since decades too with many more OOC versions of characters when compared to the main line as part of elseworlds.
Unlike, you know, Halo - with the singular canon timeline it had since it's creation and was always coherent?
Then don't call it halo if you want to throw away the world building that makes halo what it is
As someone already mentioned in this chat (or the spoiler one)
A universe is more than just looks, it's the characters, it's the factions and their actions/personalities alike.
Always coherrent? Halo Reach literally ignored the books & retconned Fall of Reach. It wasn't until 343 took over that mess was sorted.
If you take both of that and make them completely OOC then it is a poor adaptation.
Yeah Halo Reach just adds stuff to the battle of Reach and make's it last longer.
It doesn't retcon the event, nor the part SIIs played.
It also doesn't make characters OOC.
It literally ignored the Fall of Reach until 343 took over and had to fix it and making sense
Also, is not the first adaptation videogame to media that literally ignores the principal canon and it will not be the last one
Fall of reach was written by an independent writer and never considered canon
It was never considered by Bungie even for Halo wars
Pretty much all the books except Harvest would be considered written by an independet writer tho.
Anyway maybe I don't have the full picture, I only got into the wide lore after 343 fixed Bungo's issue with Reach
The games are considered prime canon over books, shows, ect
the legendary version of Halo Reach had Halsey Journal (written by the author of Fall of Reach, Eric Nylund) that was the attempt to straighten out the incongruities between the book Fall of Reach and the game Halo Reach...
You sold anakins mother and then came you're new death sound.
Which day is there coming a new episode everytime ?
new episodes drop on thursdays.
Nooo i don’t want to wait for so long
I love master cheeks
which is why "1-3, odst, and reach only" is a valid way to read the source material, as the rest just didnt have a bearing on the story. Not the only way to read it, after all 343's stories connect to it, but a valid one none the less.
I also love master chief
Ngl I loved pablo in american gods so I know he’s a good actor which is why I’m fine with no helmet
Is the tv series actually decent, I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s crap
Episode 1 is full of action 10/10 . 2,3,4 is not much action but more interesting to be fair
I really like te serie so far
I like it but you gotta remember that its different from the main games and story
Although they definitely take some aspects from it
I hope that there is more action coming in the next episodes like the first one
First episode was perfect😭
Wow I’m the opposite I prefer 3/4 to 1 because they are better
Cgi in the first fight was abysmal
But i did love the bit where chief was returning to reach
That and the creation of cortana have been my favourite moments
All episodes are just amazing
If only they had released all episodes at once
I don’t want to wait
yeah though there was a bit in the recent one
i think there's gotta be some scene or something in either the next episode or the one after
I saw it a bit but closed immediately. I don’t want to get spoiled it’s just a 50min episode so i dont want to see any spoilers
There is action coming i know
I wonder if Samuel L Jackson would play as Sgt. Johnson…
I highly highly doubt it
It would be funny if they got Keith David to do it
they should make masterchief shoot something
i think thatd really ease a lot of the issues people have with the show
I wonder why they included nudity in the show do you guys know?
Probably cuz they could. It they can explode kids they can pretty much do anything
Give leets cheeks or it's just cowardly, lol
They liked the convenient chick naked
Up next chief in a fire fight nood.
do you fear Master Cheeks?
I also like how people are more concerned with cheeks but not kids getting merked left and right
How much did i miss?
I made posters for Halo The Series ☺
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The director of episodes 3 and 4 liked the posters. ☺
If I broke a rule by sharing the url of the posters, please mods let me know and don't ban me :((
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Series bad
Those posters look sick mate
I’m on a Neill Blomkamp movie binge and all it’s done is make me sad that he was never approached for the show, even with Landfall under his belt and all the reused Halo props in his movies.
Like, come on. He’s THE Halo guy, let him shine. Let Halo shine! 
It’ll never happen though.
It would just make too much sense.
tbf looking at landfall today. it looks just so awful. The brutes are not lit correct. the darks and highlights dont match the sorrounding and lighting on all cg objects. overall color grading is far off. the only thing that covers it up is the ultra shaky cam. And there is nothing to compare against the tv show. its just a singular action scene that is not even 6min long. It dosnt tell any story whatsoever. it sure is a fun watch. but cant hold up with anything we got today
Blomkamp is overrated, he hasn't made a good movie since District 9.
even like oats studios. there are nice and fun short films. but then they are either just 3min of pure cg or the ones that actually have a good story which i def would love to see as movie or series are like 4 years old.
There has to be enough reasons why he didnt get the chance to do the movies he were supposed to make. He was in the run for a new Aliens movie, then a new Robocop movie and none of them became a thing (well a different robocop (2014) became a thing but that was ...oof)
No, it still holds better than the show. Putting aside technological differences and budget, its still significantly better. No story is better than a bad one.
Landfall is a trailer. For a trailer it did what it was meant to do. Convey a feeling of desperation, gritty combat and and maybe tease investors on what could be done with the property. The props are of same quality you'd see in a movie and a lot of people are rooting for more of that. If you're looking for story, the live action ODST trailer portrays a good and simple one that's more cohesive, even if it's super brief.
Also yeah, landfall had an bad A warthog
Huge thanks!🤝🏻
the shows problem looks to be the writing and creative direction IMO. the set, environment, etc are good. but the writing, creative direction it looks to be going in, just isnt halo
It’s not horrible I’m interested in the plot and I think the floods gonna be In it
He knows how to shoot CGI heavy productions without blowing the budget while still looking grounded. Clearly he has a very strong passion for Halo and military SciFi (which Halo hasn't had strong MilFic in ages). Made what was basically a no-budget backyard test film that perfectly captured Halo's essence. I'm shocked he was never once asked by 343i to do anything Halo related. IIRC he's said he wants to, but they've never contacted him.
Who?
Blomkamp.
Anybody learning the Sangheili from the show?
Hey I am planning to watch the show on paramour as I still haven’t watched it yet. Is it as bad as it seems?
Cause im still watching red vs blue
Red Vs Blue is better than the series
So I was just wondering if I should start the 1st ep
Seriously?
Seriously
Ok I’ll probably watch it when the whole show is finished
I’ll check the first episode out if it’s good or bad
I like it it's a good show. Has a 60% on meta so clearly more people like it then don't. But it's so close you gotta make up your own mind about that. Because nobody could every give you a valid opinion.
Alright I’ll check it out when im free
You can rate something to be 3/5 and not like it, lol. That's a false premise
