halo-the-series-chat

[dapper parcel]

I’m glad it came off I just don’t think it needs to be off as often as it is

[steady grotto]

Fr it’s like two different characters when the helmets on or off

[dapper parcel]

I don’t hate them using the OG Sound

[steady grotto]

When it’s off it feels like a cosplayer

When is on it actually feels like chief

[dapper parcel]

Is it just me or does this guy seem like a knock off Dave Chapelle

[slow bridge]

Ok that's perfect!

[steady grotto]

I agree I couldn’t help but think that while watching it

[slow bridge]

Cheif?

[steady grotto]

Oh no

[dapper parcel]

No his buddy in episode two

[steady grotto]

Minor spelling mistake

Ahhhhhhh

[dapper parcel]

The train jumping cable car didn’t feel like Halo

[steady grotto]

Oh wait I spelled it right the first time

[slow bridge]

O guy from the big hit!

[dapper parcel]

I don’t know what that is but probably

[slow bridge]

Dude Mark Wahlberg that actor in halo in one of the greatest action comedies ever

[steady grotto]

The halo tv show was actually just a collection of fight scenes that they made and then the directors saw the dead line and said “holy sh** we have to add a plot to this”

[dapper parcel]

What movie?

[slow bridge]

The big hit

[dapper parcel]

Oh got it!

[steady grotto]

I have high hopes for season 2 being good

[dapper parcel]

I’ll check it out.

[dapper parcel]

That’s what I said about Titans

[steady grotto]

The writers actually read the books!!

[dapper parcel]

And look how that tuned out.

[steady grotto]

Yeah

Well it’s good to be optimistic

[dapper parcel]

Did they? Does this fit the books?

[steady grotto]

But maybe not unrealistically optimistic

[dapper parcel]

After Titans I can’t get my hopes up to be that hurt again.

[steady grotto]

The first season has already been written so only season 2 will change

[dapper parcel]

Or It Chapter 2

[slow bridge]

I hope covenant pull a reach on everything and then season 2 is Halo CE

[steady grotto]

I hope season 2 writers know what there doing

[dapper parcel]

I mean does this show fit the books? I haven’t read the books

It’ll be the same writing team.

[steady grotto]

I’ve only read a few and where the show seems to take place I think they could fit

[dapper parcel]

It shouldn’t be though.

[steady grotto]

Auto correct makes me want to smash my keyboard

[dapper parcel]

Oh really? Well good for them then.

[slow bridge]

Show seems to be merging a few aspects of books

[dapper parcel]

I don’t give a duck about you’re Spelling or grammars

[steady grotto]

I’m really hoping that season 2 is just a live action version of the books

[slow bridge]

Yes

[steady grotto]

Imagine all the cool fight scenes from the books in live action

That would be sick

[dapper parcel]

Did they change keys character?

[slow bridge]

I kinda wish they had just took all the cgi scenes from reach and then throw in some action scenes and made a halo show

[dapper parcel]

I don’t care that they changed his race. But he acts different

[slow bridge]

He talks to much

[dapper parcel]

I didn’t care for Reach actually…

[steady grotto]

Yeah but keys was never a crucial character so I don’t think that it matters to much

[slow bridge]

I just think it wpuld have been a good world builder to halo

[steady grotto]

I still prefers keys from halo 1 by far

[dapper parcel]

I liked Keys in the first game.

Wait.

[steady grotto]

Keys was actually likable in halo 1

[dapper parcel]

What the Devil are they doing to cortana?

[slow bridge]

Comander pike actor shpuld have played keyes!

[dapper parcel]

Are you guys seeing this?

What the Sam Hill?

[slow bridge]

Huh?

[dapper parcel]

What in the name of Roberto Gilberto the III are they doing to cortana in this show?

[steady grotto]

When I heard that master chief would take of his helmet I thought the games voice actor would still voice him while the helmet was on

[dapper parcel]

it’s like they think if they play dramatic music the shoe becomes dramatic.

[slow bridge]

So I heard not sure if true that there was a scheduling conflict with Steve downs

[steady grotto]

I wish they atleast tried to sound like the og voice actor

[dapper parcel]

No way that’s it for VO work.

[slow bridge]

Yes

[dapper parcel]

VO work takes a few days normally.

At most

[steady grotto]

Ok so like what if the actor for master chief mimicked Steve downs so when the helmets on it just sound like the helmet makes his voice deeper

[dapper parcel]

They could have made it work

That would have worked.

[steady grotto]

Because it’s a heavy helmet

That could’ve solved the issue

[slow bridge]

Actors can do voice changing most all good actors are british

I was completely shocked when I heard the actor who plays rick grimes speak out of character

[steady grotto]

Just mimic him while the helmets off so you don’t annoy actual fans of the franchise

[dapper parcel]

”I don’t want to be around anymore” meme

I can’t send photos.

[slow bridge]

Yes!

[dapper parcel]

But imagine it.

[slow bridge]

Careful too channel can be strict

[dapper parcel]

How so?

[steady grotto]

Finally this channel has evolved into constructive criticism and pointing out what the show could do better with examples

I never thought it would evolve

[slow bridge]

Earlier guy got muted for posting a halo quote

[cosmic willow]

that would sound stupid tho

[dapper parcel]

I already had a message pulled when I said a four letter word

The “S” word as my mother would say.

[steady grotto]

Ok yes but he sounds kinda weird anyways

[dapper parcel]

You could still have the same effect but with the new guys voice.

[cosmic willow]

Is it because he doesnt sound like how master chief sounds in the game?

[steady grotto]

Yeah he’s become synonymous with that voice and hearing him talk all the time feels weird

So he already sounds kinda silly

[slow bridge]

No amazing!

[steady grotto]

This perfectly describes my opinion on chief without a helmet

[cosmic willow]

I dont think he sounds silly
I dont get how him not sound exactly how master chief should sound in the games affects his acting all the same

[steady grotto]

Yes but I do think it should try to sound similar but the voice actor sounds pretty ok so it’s not that big of a complaint also funny neco arc pfp

[cosmic willow]

Im to sared to try and find out what your pfp is

but it is very funny

[steady grotto]

Yes

[steady grotto]

Breakfast

[dapper parcel]

I actually kind of like the guy playing master chief

[steady grotto]

Yeah he does a good job with what he’s given

[dapper parcel]

Agreed

They should’ve given this show to Stephen Lightfoot

Maybe Brian Fuller

Matt Reeves would still be my number one choice

[steady grotto]

Yeah

[dapper parcel]

I’m happy with what he did with the Batman but after what he did with planet of the apes I think he would’ve been the perfect choice for the show

Or Lightfoot handling of The Punisher 🤌

[cedar pike]

I am curious, what is everyone's thoughts on Cortana?

[cosmic willow]

she looked worse in the trailer

She feels like Cortana to me to always sounding liek a robot but with a little more attitude

So yah I like her

[steady grotto]

Could be better make her all blue or even purple and it would look so much better

[cosmic willow]

tbh yah'

idk why they didnt make her look liek that probs to establish her difference from the halo games

[steady grotto]

Maybe have her change colors based on emotion like in halo 1

[cosmic willow]

That would be cool

[steady grotto]

Because the clothing isn’t very marketable to new audiences

[cedar pike]

Her appearance doesn't bug me

[steady grotto]

Yeah but it could look so much better

[cosmic willow]

Well they couldve made it not naked cortana

[steady grotto]

Overall probably one of the more faithful characters in the show

[cedar pike]

I'm guessing we have different standards then, mine being low ofc

[cosmic willow]

The profits and elites look pretty good to tho

[steady grotto]

Yeah I loved the way infinite handled it still having the original design but obvious clothes on top

[dapper parcel]

It doesn’t feel like the same character

Then again I only got two minutes in the episode three before I had to turn it off because I couldn’t take it anymore

So I didn’t see her actually do anything

[cosmic willow]

physical?

[steady grotto]

Also I liked the idea of the unsc being mostly good and oni just not being a particularly good organization

[cosmic willow]

I guess in the show she serves a completely different purpose from the canon

[wintry pelican]

#933834868637454446

[knotty tendon]

So . . . the Chief is just going to spend this entire series with his helmet off?

I'm not sure I dislike it, having not been with the franchise for long, but it's a radical departure from the history. My mental image of him after just two episodes is now of Pablo Schreiber, not the faceless supersoldier with a voice as distinctive as Morgan Freeman's.

[tawdry kestrel]

Show Chief in general is pretty OOC

[knotty tendon]

Yeah, most of his reason for being legendary and iconic is that you could project whatever you wanted onto a faceless, virtually silent character. But it’s a TV show. You have to make his character go somewhere.

Still, I wish they kept more of the faceless aspect. The moment when he ||invited Kwan to shoot him on the spot|| feels a lot less special now.

[fading halo]

Okay I just watched the first episode of the series and I now see that the hate comes from toxic halo stans who don’t let themselves enjoy something new. Because I’m loving it

They actually succeeded in making a “Chief goes rogue” story and I love how brutal they made the covenant

[cosmic willow]

yah some of the criticism for the show ive seen where kinda dumb, some mf literally said master chief is ugly and thats why the show is bad one time

unironically to

[fading halo]

Yep

Master Chief ain’t even bad.

This master Chief is much more awkward in a way and it accents his social isolation. He’s still an absolute badass and it doesn’t take away from his character

[cosmic willow]

Yah hes fine hopefully by the end of the season he'll become the recognisable chief but people are already calling him a failure but the show hasnt even gotten to its half way mark yet

[fading halo]

“wE dOnT wAnT a KiLlInG mAcHiNe WiTh EmOtIoNaL tRaUmA tO bE eMoTiOnAlLy VuLnErAbLe”

[tawdry kestrel]

I do not think that is the case my dude

[cosmic willow]

Im just saying its kinda unfair for a show that hasnt even finished to be considered bad

[fading halo]

Yeah

[tawdry kestrel]

It's almost as if you can make your opinion on certain episodes?
If someone considereds ep 2 to be bad, EP 9 being great won't change his mind about ep 2 lol

[cosmic willow]

Im talking about the show entirely fam?

[fading halo]

It’s not about an opinion based on each episode.

[cosmic willow]

Exactly

[fading halo]

These people are talking about how the entire show is bad as a whole

[tawdry kestrel]

Well then they still make claims based on existing information, don't they?

[cosmic willow]

like you can have your opinions on the episodes individually and it would vary but there's no way you can look at 3 episodes of a pretty Average show so far and call it bad

[cosmic willow]

the majority of the show isnt even out yet tho

[fading halo]

Yeah. Literally my only complaint was the cgi and that was only on certain places.

Everything else was rendered beautifully. Especially the elites

[cosmic willow]

its just extremely negative with very little actually constructive criticism and people seeing not my master chief most of the time

[tawdry kestrel]

And Infinite has only one season 1 out and I can still objectivly say it's a very BAD Live Service game so far?

[cosmic willow]

yah that gun looked wierd in the first episode

when chief dropped it

I still think the Elites look good

they look different but similar

[fading halo]

That’s a different situation. Because that’s a whole game. This situation is just 3 episodes

[cosmic willow]

what?
infinite is a game tho?

I dont understand your point here

[fading halo]

It’s a mix between the classic and 343 elites and it looks really visually appealing

[tawdry kestrel]

It's not a whole game though?

Just liek the show, it's not all out yet.

And so far, I could say it's bad based on the stuff delivered.
Same case with the show.

If the future content changes such opinion then so be it.

[cosmic willow]

Yah also these Elites can apparently close their mouths fully
But fr tho the costume design team did a good job on chiefs underarmor like it looks so detailed

[cosmic willow]

what?

[tawdry kestrel]

Do you have any idea what a Live Service game is?

Or what content Infinite has at the moment?

[fading halo]

What do you mean? Halo infinite is a live service. it’s not going to end.

[cosmic willow]

How are you gonna be comparing a games battle pass quality to a shows over arcing story and changing characters

dumbest thing ive heard you say and so far alot of youre points made alot of sense

[tawdry kestrel]

I'm comparing the content genius.

Infinite doesn't even have the most basic stuff the last four games released had???

[fading halo]

You can’t compare two types of completely different content

[cosmic willow]

I love how you said that as if it makes what you said make more sesne

[tawdry kestrel]

How the hell is that a full game by any means?

[cosmic willow]

I mean in has a good campaign compared to the last 343 games
and it plays fundamentally better than well, any halo game ive played in the last 2 years
also werent we talking about the show?

[fading halo]

How is any game a full game? The only thing that deems it a full game is if the community deems it so. You can’t make that argument because it tailors to a perfectionist viewpoint. Nothing’s perfect

[tawdry kestrel]

👀

[cosmic willow]

also its not liek the game is in beta or isnt fully out

it isfully out so his point just makes less and less sense

[timid ether]

why do you guys argue with someone who hast even seen the show?

Well I don't watch it so I don't care about spoilers lol```

[cosmic willow]

😭 Bruh

[tawdry kestrel]

The point is easy that it hurts that I have to explain it like to a bunch of pre-schoolers.

Nor Infinte nor the show have it's full content.
Yet they will get a reception based on the content they put out as of the moment.

If Season 1 of Infinite at the moment is UNDERDELIVERING it is a bad Live Service game. If the future seasons change that, it won't be one anymore.

If the show as of 3 episodes aired has 3 bad episodes aired, it's a bad show. If the rest is good, it's gonna be a better show?

What's soo hard to understand?

[cosmic willow]

My fault OG

[fading halo]

Bro what?

[cosmic willow]

Can you go watch the show before you start making less and less sense

[fading halo]

Watch the show and then we can argue, but as for right now, your arguments are invalid

[timid ether]

its like talking rocket science with a cleaner that thinks he knows it

[tawdry kestrel]

Jesus Christ talking to cooonsumers is such a moot point.

[cosmic willow]

Im gonna go now

[fading halo]

Same

I got stuff to do

[tame blade]

Vannak is just so 😩😩

[obsidian flume]

I’ve seen all episodes and I love halo the series and halo infinite! I love all halo stuff. But I can see why others don’t like it and that’s just fine. Who cares if it is bad now or bad later or good now or good later. Starship troopers was bad then and great now. It’s just opinions. And those opinions mean very little. If you like it be proud. If you hate it who cares? They are destroying nothing.

Except for the fairly odd parents reboot. They can go to hell.

[obtuse plinth]

they're taking him out of his armor too much

get us armor pics

not naked men and women

[obsidian flume]

So you expect him to live in his armor all the time? How can he eat nuts and bolts if his armor is on? He needs his caloric fuel!!

[obtuse plinth]

"what do you like?"
"Nuts and Bolts."

[acoustic notch]

I heard in the books chief removes his armor regularly

Quite often

And the thing with the helmet

That was just a bug fans went overboard with

It's like if people went crazy about spartans being able to walk through others and can't melee because they forgot to enable collision then every one would cry about chief not phasing in the movie or further games

Phasing through others not being an ability

But in this case it was a helmet issue with chief taking off his helmet

[urban sparrow]

microchips

[acoustic notch]

I'm not saying people would cry about that not being a thing. It's just an example just pretend.

.

The thing with chiefs helmet is just a meme

[fading halo]

That was an endearing moment for Chief. Love this new Chief just with his awkward attempt to crack a joke. He’s not a people person and they kept that apparent when making his character.

[civic pelican]

Starship Troopers is still bad. Read the Book by Robert A. Heinlein....Starship Troopers (the book) was the first instance of powered armor (written 1959) and was an inspiration for both Halo and Iron Man.

sorry hit reply to the wrong comment.

[timid ether]

hethen. starhip troopers is awesome. 1. 3 (to a degree) and the animated movies

[sharp crown]

Wouldn't it be funny if the writters legit thought the word halo was about halo jumps and not the actual structure? I would actually believe that they could be this incompetent lmao

[civic pelican]

<shrug> read the book and you might change your mind.

but yes the animated stuff was better than the live action IMHO

[timid ether]

nah im good.
but i get ya.
Most people that has the nowledge of the books fidn those better. thats fine. i just grew up with the movie and didnt knew the books before so we both are biased in a certain way. but overall we still like starship troopers

[civic pelican]

👍

[timid ether]

and yes the animated movies are better

[nocturne crown]

i know the show isn't canon but is that actually master cheif's face

[timid ether]

no thats tv series chief. nothing to do with game or book chief

[nocturne crown]

thank god

[tawdry kestrel]

Isn't the ST book an criticms of facism and autoritarism with the movie missing the point and turning it into satire?

[timid ether]

the movies still had that but it didnt manage to communicate it that good.

[civic pelican]

there's a lot to unpack in the differences between the book and the movie.

[timid ether]

was more like a fun b movie thing

my pet peeve is still the starship troopers 2005s First person shooter. i love it. its so bad. like really really bad. but i cant get enough

[obsidian flume]

I mean it’s good if you actually understand the premise. Starship Troopers is cult classic now and this show is no different. It will have a following of those who see it for what it is.

[timid ether]

yes. there are a few shows that just have this small fanbase but that fanbase is dedicated to it. thats like starship troopers, firefly. and halo probably aswell

[obsidian flume]

I mean I get it I understand both sides. But I like it for what it is and it is to make money like pretty much everything is. They didn’t mislead us at all. The writers producers everything was told to us it won’t be the same. Can’t argue it’s not the same when they said it wouldn’t be. So just enjoy it for what it is and wait for the zack snyder's director's cut.

[vale cradle]

The blessed one 👽

[primal sundial]

hi

anyone else feel like the series should have been supervised by actual fans?

[jovial venture]

i love how i have to remind myself that they wasted roughly $10,000,000 per episode.

[whole garden]

Show is trash

[jovial venture]

it doesn't even look good

how much of the budget went to lining the producer's pockets

[whole garden]

It looks OK the problem is the story,personality, and characters

[whole garden]

the first episode where the chick gets blown into pieces has you like wow wtf

then once chief drops from the ship I was hyped

All downhill from there

[jovial venture]

just makes me want to go back and watch the halo: legends series.

[acoustic notch]

I've mentioned this before

/

Do you know what's funny

The community makes better machinima movies and shows then this new halo infinite show

[copper hearth]

Does anybody know the episode 4 release date?

[timid ether]

every thursday

[copper hearth]

Another one next week?

[timid ether]

i mean today is friday. so yes next week

[copper hearth]

I dont rlly keep track of the release date

[timid ether]

its not that hard m8. its every week every thursday ^^

[copper hearth]

Perfect thanks

Just finished the 3rd episode rn

[timid ether]

cant tell you the time tho. im confused with timezones ^^ its 12pm pst i think

[copper hearth]

10.30 pm here lol

[solid briar]

lol

[robust marsh]

This is spot on! lol, irked me too. I am just as smart as your kid!!!

haha, wow!

[cosmic willow]

I just assumed the reason chief killed the elites with the minigun is because their shields were already weak which would explain why they broke so easily and how the elites shields function

[robust marsh]

I dont think so. Even when Kwans dad was firing at that wounded Elite it had zero effect

[cosmic willow]

The red elite that killed him?

[robust marsh]

Yes

[cosmic willow]

he was hitting his armor and his shields were down from John hitting him with the minigun

plus the Spartans use special rounds that help penetrate the elites shields that the normal humans dont

thats why their weapons were way more effective against them

[robust marsh]

Yeah, Im saying that Kwans dad should have been able to wound the elite as it had already been wounded and its sheild looked down to me.

[cosmic willow]

They were down

but he was shooting the elites armor

like an idot

and then walked towards him

and died

[robust marsh]

Thats just a plot device then, which i view a lazy writing.

[cosmic willow]

what is?

[robust marsh]

I am fine with him being killed, just put some more logic into it

[cosmic willow]

oh

yah that was stupid of him to do

[robust marsh]

IMO its a build up of small things like that, that really take away from a shows believability

But it really isnt that big of an issue in the scope of the show

[cosmic willow]

yah

[glacial widget]

God I really love this show

[cosmic willow]

Every show is most likely gonna have illogical moments like that

So far ive only seen 3 tho

[glacial widget]

Between this and severance is probably the most I’ve been enjoying TV since the expanse

[robust marsh]

Sure 🤷🏻‍♂️ I personally hate moments like that, but i understand that it isnt a big problem if it only happens a few times

[cosmic willow]

the Jin Ha one
the one where Kwan is threating the UNSC with basically nothing
and the Episode one where the soldiers shoot at the Hunter worms but not the white haired girl

pretty stupid moments tbh

[cosmic willow]

Im just glad we getting a halo tv show

[glacial widget]

Ngl if I had crazy worm monsters coming to squeeze the life out of me I would be shooting them and not some white haired chick

[cosmic willow]

like who wouldnt want tht

[cosmic willow]

true

[robust marsh]

Yeah, I know the worm scene was supposed to be boss moves type stuff but good lord smh

[cosmic willow]

like thats the main threat

Kinda wack still tho

[glacial widget]

I thought that scene was terrifying and makee really sold it for me

[cosmic willow]

But that doesnt really effect me in terms of the shows quality

[glacial widget]

She seams to hate humanity just as much as the Sang’shium

[cosmic willow]

the show is brutal for absolutely no reason dawg😭

[robust marsh]

The whole lack of procedure in that scene i didnt like. It was just the easiest route to make her look badass, but also making the UNSC incompetent

[cosmic willow]

kids dying
people getting strangled

[glacial widget]

? The war was brutal

[robust marsh]

Idk, maybe i am losing my ability to see it with fresh eyes

[glacial widget]

Thal’vadim killed billions of humans before he became the arbiter

[robust marsh]

The plot deviations are growing on me

[tawdry kestrel]

The UNSC literally uses a similar caliber as the AKs though

[cosmic willow]

Yah I know but never thought id see an Elite gun down a group of civilians like that
well actually thats a lie but it was still cool to show how brutal the universe is

its always been brutal tbh

[glacial widget]

The creating of Spartans alone is a more brutal act than most

[tawdry kestrel]

The AR uses the NATO round lol

[cosmic willow]

true

the flood is messed up to

[glacial widget]

Ya the halo universe is absolutely horrific

What the flood does to people is nothing short of nightmare inducing

[cosmic willow]

in the show or in the games?

[robust marsh]

The brutality I liked, the covanant needs to be scary

[cosmic willow]

facts

[tawdry kestrel]

They literally use the same guns in the show?

[robust marsh]

If anything they are underplaying the threat against humanity

[glacial widget]

What I really appreciate is the distain makee holds for humans. She honestly feels like she should be part of the covenant

[tawdry kestrel]

I doubt silver timeline AR doesn't use the 7.62×51mm ammo lol

[cosmic willow]

do they use the same rounds tho?🤨

[glacial widget]

Both it’s the same gun

[cosmic willow]

I liked her back story

like it was short but it got the message across

[glacial widget]

Exactly

[robust marsh]

Balistics have hardly changed in 100 years in real life, so I would believe its similar if not the same as modern day

[tawdry kestrel]

Well you obviously have fancier guns, but caliber is the same.

[robust marsh]

The dudes beating children was a bit much, lol, we are being attacked but i really really care about attacking this little girl

[glacial widget]

Ya I thought the ma5 was a mini rail gun but found out it’s just a fancy m4

[cosmic willow]

and killing him to

[robust marsh]

Yeah

[cosmic willow]

like hes dead dead

[robust marsh]

Yeah, that took me out of it tbh

[cosmic willow]

would it be the same for the DMR tall spartans were using?

[glacial widget]

Um it was a colony using children as labour.

[robust marsh]

You can have a tragic back story, but that was way over the top for such a short scene

[tawdry kestrel]

Yeah the DMR uses the same bullet caliber

[cosmic willow]

oh right

[robust marsh]

Sure, I guess beating children to death is a worthwile thing to do. Kill your workers, thats a good plan

[glacial widget]

Also cortana’s creation was absolutely perfect

[cosmic willow]

the covenant didnt even kill anyone there they just dropped in
probs cuz its a tier 2 planet and they think killing any humans there would be a waste of time

[glacial widget]

Just the right amount of horrifying and practical

[robust marsh]

Over such a small thing. It just seemed like they decided her friend would die and chose the most dramatic and jarring way to get it done

[glacial widget]

They were only interested in the artifact

[cosmic willow]

yah it was kinda trippy in a way

[cosmic willow]

yah

[tawdry kestrel]

So they don't even genocide humans anymore?

[glacial widget]

Also got to say that most the music has been simply incredible

[robust marsh]

I liked cortanas creation, and the dynamic with Halsey feels right

[cosmic willow]

but I guess they tracked down and killed the Madrigal settlement so the humans wouldnt find out about the artefact they retrieved

[glacial widget]

Even in the lore they would send sanghelli out to recover artefacts

[cosmic willow]

thats probably why the red elite made a B line for Kwan

[tawdry kestrel]

That hardly answers my question does it now?

[cosmic willow]

did yall hear when Reth mentioned the Halo it played a bit of the original sound track

[glacial widget]

I think it was more like they were excavating and once they were found they wanted to make sure the colony wouldn’t attack them

[cosmic willow]

Maybe a mix of both tbh

[glacial widget]

They still genocide humans don’t worry

[cosmic willow]

if the spartans hadnt showed up that entire colony was catching smoke

[glacial widget]

That’s pretty much the lore

[tawdry kestrel]

Well they did all die except one kid

so bad luck

[cosmic willow]

yah I was wondering why they kept trying to grab Kwan

but it made sense

[glacial widget]

Ya I mean my only problem with the show was the madrigal scene

But I’m still convinced that was a test screen for the show

Because the CGI post that scene has been incredible

[cosmic willow]

the fight?

[glacial widget]

The cgi mostly

[cosmic willow]

the thing that stood out to me as bad cgi was the gun chief dropped down

[glacial widget]

Ya

[cosmic willow]

and when he started running

[glacial widget]

Yes

[cosmic willow]

On god tho the elites and profits look extremely detailed

[glacial widget]

Ya the prophets look incredible

[tawdry kestrel]

That was a really unessary close up to be honest

[coarse gazelle]

Lekgolo are terrifying

[tawdry kestrel]

Did they not like see the low poly AR when putting the scenes together?

[glacial widget]

Always have been

[cosmic willow]

truth

[cosmic willow]

im to lazy to spell prophet right bruh

[glacial widget]

I’m really confused why they did that

[tawdry kestrel]

Say Shuum or whatever it's spelled like

[coarse gazelle]

Halo ce ma58 lol

[tawdry kestrel]

San Shayuum?

[cosmic willow]

Sanghelie?

[tawdry kestrel]

No that's the Elites

[glacial widget]

Not he San shayuum are the prophets

The sanghelie are the elites

[tacit pollen]

I wonder if their order has been adjusted though.

Mercy seems to be the dominant one rather than Truth.

[glacial widget]

Ikr. I hope truth is the big hitter but to be fair truth was always trying to hide his power until halo 2

[tacit pollen]

Halo 3*

Well yes no Halo 2 though he doesn't actually assume full power until the climax of Halo 2 and beginning of Halo 3.

[glacial widget]

2

[tacit pollen]

So in an around Halo 2/3.

Halo 3 is only set 2 weeks after Halo 2 as far as I am aware in the chronological timeline.

[glacial widget]

Truth was always planning to take over

[tacit pollen]

Which one is Truth in the series?

Regret and Truth don't seem dinstinguishable.

I'm not sure if Truth is the more pale one.

[glacial widget]

He his stuff like the hierophant and the location of relics from the other prophets because he knew when the ring was found he would need to assume power

[tacit pollen]

I'm hoping to see Thel'Vadam.

[glacial widget]

Most likely won’t see him till season two

[tacit pollen]

Idk why he'd be left out until season 2.

If anything introducing him somewhere half way in season 1 sounds more reasonable.

[glacial widget]

Either leading the destruction of reach or fighting Chief on installation 04

[tacit pollen]

Well I think the first halo ring will be found in the first season no doubt.

[glacial widget]

It will

[tacit pollen]

I expect to see the flood introduced in the finale of season 1 or somewhere into season 2.

[glacial widget]

I think season 2 will contain similar events to reach and CE happening simultaneously

[jovial venture]

unfortunately yes

[jovial venture]

there's a dreadful statement

[glacial widget]

We don’t even meet him till halo 2

[jovial venture]

that's not what's dreadful here. it's the thought of halo: money dumpster season 2

[glacial widget]

Sucks to suck buddy

[jovial venture]

not as bad as the show

and using the games as a timeline to predict events in the show is useless when the producers and directors tout not discussing the games during development as something they're proud of

[slow bane]

Just watched the first episode, that will probably be the last episode I watch

[tawdry kestrel]

See the Brit get's the idea

Actually I don't remember, was it 9 or 10 episodes?

[jovial venture]

god, what cool halo content could we have gotten if they spent that ~$100,000,000 in any wise or efficient endeavor

hell we could've gotten a really cool animated series for half that cost or even an expansion to infinite

[fluid forum]

Why is Cortana not pocket sized in the series?

Like i expected her to fit in master chiefs hand

[tawdry kestrel]

Jen Taylor is too tall

[fluid forum]

Not be human sized

[jovial venture]

holograms can be as big as a projector can allow

[fluid forum]

Yeah but in the games she has always been small,.like when we were first introduced to her on the autumn

[jovial venture]

this show has very little, if anything, to do with the games

not even cannon

[fluid forum]

I guess i just expected more

[jovial venture]

as did we all

[sonic kelp]

This show was made for people that thought shows like Star Trek tng was to exciting. Seriously. They they have like 5 subplots going and the main plot isn’t even good enough. There’s roughly 2 hours and 40 minutes of show and less than 10 minutes of action that is all in the first episode. There’s no fun in the show, all the characters are incredibly unlikeable, like who the hell is this show for?

[jovial venture]

people who've never heard of halo before.

[hard pecan]

10 minutes of action??

[jovial venture]

or its a money laundering scheme for the producers 🤷

the live action halo 3 promo material had more layers of polish than this

[hard pecan]

doesnt sound good so far

I am gonna have a hard time liking it if it is nothing like the original canon

[jovial venture]

i just don't see how anyone at 343 could be so tone-deaf as to greenlight this

[tawdry kestrel]

I don't think they had much oa choice really.

Most game series sold their movie rights in the late 2000s early 2010s so they just stuck in this limbo of rights

[jolly bronze]

i'm enjoying the new series

Natasha McElhone is doing a phenomenal job

the story is definitely different but i'm not opposed to that

[slow bane]

"phenomenal" ooft

[timid ether]

someone has a different opinion. people like different things. just accept that

[slow bane]

I can respect it and disagree with it at the same time

[timid ether]

yeah sure. just didnt sound that way. sorry for misunderstanding you tho

[slow bridge]

From what I read they had to sign off on this show, but I cpuld be wrong

Also read they rejected over 600 scripts to go with this one

[jovial venture]

i just had a thought. if this show had none of the named characters from the games and was it's own self contained halo story it would be more paletteable

not good. but easier to take

[slow bane]

I said that to my friend, it should have been its own thing

[slow bridge]

The lengthy discussion we had in this channel last night was that point

[jovial venture]

i think as halo fans we should be given an animated series of the grunt rebellion as penance

[slow bridge]

Sadly few people got muted one was muted for posting a halo quote too 😞

[slow bane]

if they expected anything other than majority disappointment from halo fans then they're deluded

sure some wont mind it

[timid ether]

making up numbers now. the same veriety article you guys hyping up to be the real deal stated it was 265 drafts. so id rather inclined to not believe that aswell. but ey. you do you. since variety is your personal lore book

[slow bane]

Still feels like they had to settle for something or lose the chance all together

[bleak wraith]

can someone tell me why the subtitles are completely black on paramount+ I can hardly read the text at all

[slow bridge]

Actually I stated I could be wrong

No need to be rude good sir

[jovial venture]

probs to hide the bad dialog writing

lol

[bleak wraith]

I don’t think it’s bad?

[runic wind]

Might be a setting?

[bleak wraith]

no you can’t change it all at

[runic wind]

Damn, reinstall perhaps?

[jovial venture]

you ever watch halo: legends? play 2? ever establish a frame of reference for good and bad dialog?

[runic wind]

It’s pretty subjective, relax

[bleak wraith]

^

[jolly bronze]

Seems like the round and round on here is that it doesn’t fit a specific box for folks

Would any deviations have been acceptable?

I’ve already seen the destruction of reach, the assault on Mombasa, Cortana’s rampancy

Like why rehash the same in live action

[heady halo]

Because the writers of the show didn’t play the games instead they only looked at the lore and lazily write the show

And boom this is what we got (I will admit the CGI is a bit good but not the best)

[jolly bronze]

First ep was not good but has gotten better

I could lose kwans story

[heady halo]

I didn’t like Kwan honestly

[rugged peak]

shows good quit your whining

that said the nudity is a bit unneccessary

i dont need to know if chief's caked up

thats what fanfic is for

[heady halo]

The fact he’s doing it with Cortana though 😏

[rugged peak]

anyways do we know what helmets the people who arent chief and EOD guy are using yet?

[heady halo]

Idk

You may have to look through Twitter or google for that

[storm notch]

is chief actually naked i hacent watched the show

[robust marsh]

yup

[storm notch]

zamn

[neon plover]

@robust marsh that goes on #471727324895641651

[lament meadow]

Am I the only one that thought Cortana didn’t look bad? Way better than the trailer.

[timid ether]

agreed. still off and uncanny because of the cg. but her design is actually nice

true but i think its a bit to much. should have had her slightly translucend and digital to get around that and just make it slightly less uncanny. still like it tho

yes

[lament meadow]

Only thing I wish is she wasn’t 6ft tall lol. Like make her a small floating AI

[timid ether]

she can change her size how she wants. she was full size at the end of infinite aswell. so its not out of the ordinary

and i bet we see her a few times as handheld version

[brazen solar]

Kwan is ugly af imo

[tawdry kestrel]

why does master chief have a small back end

[quaint brook]

the scene were john removed his sensorial remover thing was intresting to say the least 🤣

[merry basalt]

ngl, the fact chief has been out of his armor more than in it in this show is really weird

[winter kindle]

felt weirded out by it

[deft frigate]

Dude is caked up

[quaint brook]

i laughed whe i saw that his "hose" was covered by the mirror frame

[merry basalt]

also i will never understand why the covenant allowed a human in their ranks

[hasty sedge]

Because Paramount figured the Covenant needed a human face, and CGI is expensive

[teal coral]

I don’t really like the halo show, The director’s didn’t even play the games

[merry basalt]

i doubt they read any of the books either

did they? im pretty they've said themselves they didnt play any of the games

assuming they did the show sure doesnt show that

even then i doubt that

its got PLENTY of issues

im getting the opposite feeling. feels like its getting worse

[teal coral]

Are u some type of undercover 343 mod

I knew it

A real halo fan would have said the show is very inaccurate

I agree, Horrible design

But fr though, Bungie’s short movie is way better than the entire show

Halo show boring

I watched all 3 episodes

Yes, Also less talking for the entire episode

[boreal peak]

A halo movie or mini series about Sadie Endesha from Halo 3 ODST would be neat I think. And a good sort of introduction for people into halo potentially.

Nah, Master chief Pinup calendar in a break room at most. Lore accurate, was totally used to raise funding for the refugees during the war.

Helmet greaves and cuisses and boots, lol. xD

[slow bridge]

It's not halo it's a cw science fiction show that some bad writers created and just call it halo

No sir #emocheif sucks

Have you seen the show?

Cheif isn't supposed to be all talky and "working through" stuff

Reacher

[boreal peak]

I think chief should be emotional, but masking it with stoicism. He shouldn't talk about what is wrong in most cases or his feelings much, but his body language should express it obv.

[slow bridge]

Cheif never delt with drama issues he was all about saving humanity

[boreal peak]

He is still human, but he has been conditioned to be something both above- and detached from humanity. A theme of Halo is that humanities hero has had his personhood stripped from him pretty much.

[slow bridge]

See I would disagree as the basic concept of cheif wasn't anything close to being more human

And this is why the show is failing. They bosted about 5 mill views on a premiere

Think walking dead still does that

[teal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/argument-arguments-wall-gif-24157549

Bruh no gif’s

[slow bridge]

And careful censorship in this disc is pretry rough

[boreal peak]

I am fine with them showing chief having emotions, but I wish they built to some catharsis. He bottles things up to a point in which something very dire happens in the story, and you see him break a bit. But that is my opinion. I think having interactions with people he trusts, like johnson, showing his little glimmer of humanity still, or his banter with cortana would be great ways to please both sides You know?

To the average person chief seems cold, and emotionless, but as you peel back the layers and get closer to the core of who he is as a person, the audience gets a better understanding of the man behind the helmet.

[verbal fox]

It was Admiral Whitcomb's NOVA Bomb speech

[teal coral]

Fun fact: the word f@rt is banned

I’m taking a nice f@rt rn

[verbal fox]

Yeah, don't quote Johnson's Regret Speech, or his CE motivational speeches, or Whitcomb's NOVA Bomb message

[teal coral]

A real loud one

Hold on, cr@p

I’m doing that too rn

Taking lots of cr@ps

I’m gonna test something

[boreal peak]

I think having a scene where chief is being a supersoldier, doing his duty, being hyper efficient-like how we play the games (At least we hope xD), and then after we have a slower scene of them counting the fallen, and winding down, and we see subtle glimmers of his humanity, as they handle the dead, he paying his respects. I think it would be really telling of his character, if we see Master Chief is not desensitized entirely :3

Just through body language, and his occasional words. I think the less words speaks volumes a lot of the time. Some comparisons I can see would be the show "Primal" and Samurai Jack from Genndy Tartakovsky, and obv the Mandalorian (Know a lot of people draw this comparison) Or even Darth Vader in episode 5 and 6. 😛

[slow bridge]

Glad you're back!

[verbal fox]

I am too. I couldn't even look in here

[haughty dragon]

I'm kinda loving this show

Silver timeline chief is interesting

[shadow reef]

Stands pretty good as a sci fi show but doesn't really have the halo vibe. Still fun to watch though ngl

[dapper condor]

Honest question: if the UNSC has been fighting the covenant for years, then how come they didn’t think a seemingly abandoned covenant ship that somehow jumped Through slip space to their position might be a trap?

[robust marsh]

Because plot needed people to be dumb

Thats the sign of a good writing team 😉

[little anvil]

Never look a gift horse in the mouth. Even in canon they would have taken the chance to steal it and plunder its secrets. Thats literally the plot of Halo: Oblivion.

[spare gorge]

So, let's talk about the new show for a minute...

I would like to first point out I have been a die-hard fan of the franchise since the original Combat Evolved when it first released and prior when it was available as a demo on PC. (I know a lot of people say this, but let's be real here, most of the people that claim this are the current generation making this statement. I'm not going to deny that, as most of us original fans are in our 30's or older and of over half of us have moved on to other games long ago.) A lot of players didn't care for Halo 4 (I actually enjoyed it), but obviously we (most at least) can agree that Halo 5 was a poorly written flop aside from gameplay mechanics and Forge mode. And Yes, I do enjoy Infinite. But, still waiting for the rest of the game to be finished.

With that info out of the way, let me get straight to it. I think it's safe to say the majority of us were hyped about the new TV series when we all first watched the trailer. At least until we started nitpicking about inaccuracies after watching it several times. (The rebels with AK-47, Chevy trucks, etc.) Then when we turned to Reddit, and we all saw that Master Chief's face was revealed. (Needless to say, this is a rule you don't break with Halo.)

I went from hype to "Nope, not gonna watch it!" pretty quick. However, after learning last week that the show does not interfere with the cannon lore (at least as far as my head cannon goes at least.) And watching Hidden Xperia's breakdown videos of episodes 1 and 2, I decided to give the series the benefit of the doubt, at the very least and give it a chance. Not a big one, but because I wanted this show to be entertaining.

We all know that videogame adaptations are more often than not, usually terrible. (I think the og R.E. movies were good though.) However, I must say even with the (heartaching) inconsistencies and inaccuracies, the Halo TV isn't...terrible, in fact I am actually enjoying it. It's not just the scenes, it's the music as well.

What are some of your thoughts on the show? Thanks!

And feel free to reply as well, hope everyone has a wonderful day

[little anvil]

One word; BRUTALITY.

[spare gorge]

Oh, definitely way more brutal than the games ever were (Flood aside) also, I see you're a man of culture

[little anvil]

Why thank you.
For me, the shows less about the story, or the characters, or whatever else some people have been griping about.
Its about seeing, in some form of live action, things I have only held in my imagination from words on a page.
Plasma fire, AI creation, Spartans in combat, slipspace, characters that were never given game apperances...all of this is what I like about the show.

[spare gorge]

Aaaand, now I wanna play Kombat

[little anvil]

FLAWLESS VICTORY

[spare gorge]

FRIENDSHIP

[little anvil]

Also, if you saw Hiddens stuff, you should watch Halo Canons breakdowns too. He goes into the hard lore connections.
Pretty good stuff.

[spare gorge]

ANIMALITY

[little anvil]

Wasnt Babality one.

[spare gorge]

Yup

Did you happen to see the new MK movie? I remember seeing it in theaters and I can't believe it was as good as it was

[little anvil]

I did not. But I havent had time to see many movies recently so its just another one of the missed chances.
Havent even seen Batman or Sonic.

[spare gorge]

I love the new take on the MK techno

[little anvil]

I heard it was good

[spare gorge]

One sec, I'll send it to you in a DM. Is that Kool?

....see what I did there

[little anvil]

HEH

[spare gorge]

@little anvil just shared it with you

No joke, I was listening to it on Spotify in background play on Xbox and the timing could not be more perfect. As soon as Khan said "FINISH HIM" I just input a fatality as Scorpion

[little anvil]

Absolute BALANCE.

[tawdry kestrel]

The bot banning words is pretty interesting on this server

I once got muted because I wrote the name and surname of the Ace of Spades trilogy author and forgot her surname is offensive in English XD

[fleet ermine]

Personally it’s refreshing to hear a different take of the story. Although it does ruin previous lore, it’s still non canon.

[fleet ermine]

I’m rooting for the series mainly because it’s probably the first non canon story for halo, they’re trying something new

[willow sparrow]

I’m enjoying it so far

The MasterChief out of armor so much is jarring

But still enjoying it

[fleet ermine]

Yep

[glacial widget]

Just a daily reminder that the halo show is actually really good

[neon plover]

That's been fixed

[untold nebula]

I'm hooked so how does it work weekly EP drops or daily lol 🤣

[main hatch]

Weekly

[tawdry kestrel]

The show is terrable....as I expected from a paramount pile of £r@p

Honestly It pains me greatly even seeing all of the inaccuracies and discrepancy in the program not just to the halo lore but to the game lore aswell and they knew it was so bad they had to make the show non cannon

[runic wind]

Silver. Timeline.

[tawdry kestrel]

You can't just make a new timeline...... That's called lazy writing if you make a knew timeline anytime you want

[runic wind]

It’s not lazy, they did it to give them more creative freedom

[verbal fox]

Not an excuse to fundamentally alter the World and Characters

[runic wind]

But that’s the point?

[tawdry kestrel]

Thank you

[verbal fox]

If they want more creative freedom they should make something original. "Silver Timeline" and "Creative Freedom" are just masks for the business bickering between Hollywood and Microsoft

[runic wind]

No, they did it because many of the plot points during the show would compromise main lore

[verbal fox]

Hollywood, a Monopoly that refuses to be commanded
Microsoft, a massive corporation seeking additional wealth but with an inch of good will left

[runic wind]

???

[verbal fox]

Who do you think made the plot points?

[runic wind]

The writers?

[tawdry kestrel]

There's plenty of untouched time in the halo universe both before and after the cov war the real reason they made a new time Lin is because they can't write a good story and have written themselves into a hole where they have lost all passion for the universe not to mention they really do not understand the universe or the community at large if you want to make a good halo game or product you take what already exists and build apon it like lego's

[verbal fox]

Yep, Hollywood's writers

[runic wind]

You think that Microsoft and Hollywood are clashing with each other

[verbal fox]

Hollywood's writers and directors demand excessive creative control to tell their own story. Microsoft wants control over the narrative of the story. For nearly 2 decades Hollywood and Microsoft has clashed over it, its why the first attempt failed and this one has been in development hell for 10 years

[runic wind]

Could you elaborate on how “they couldn’t create a good story”

[verbal fox]

I believe Microsoft eventually acquiesced and let them establish a different timeline because Hollywood wouldn't make it otherwise

And Microsoft wouldn't let them alter lore

[tawdry kestrel]

Halo 5 and halo infinite have lazy writing

[runic wind]

The show?

[verbal fox]

But Hollywood, those writers and directors have lost their innovation years ago and have been recycling the same plot threads for decades, even in places it doesn't belong

[runic wind]

How so?

[verbal fox]

Yes, let's have a soldier with memory problems eventual go rogue (Captain Marvel) and have a E-wifu (Blade Runner 2049)

[tawdry kestrel]

And I rather play halo 5 on laso then re watch that terrible show... nobody at 343 can write the show is terrable the games are worse and I about to give up on the universe because halo is dead

[verbal fox]

Oh the entire Chosen One trope they hamfisted in

[runic wind]

You didn’t answer my question

[runic wind]

Fair, but the movie industry has been going on for decades. It’s probably difficult to come up with something both new and interesting

[verbal fox]

They got rid of Every Human a Reclaimer, an utterly fundamental part of Halo, to make Chief more Special, more of a Chosen One.

[verbal fox]

Here's the thing, they didn't have to come up with something new. Halo books and games laid a very easy railroad track to follow

[tawdry kestrel]

I did read my message properly that message was the reply to your question because u make a indirect question to get an indirect awnser

[verbal fox]

But instead, they ripped up the tracks

Now, I am not saying they should follow the games, but the books had plenty of stories to expand upon

[runic wind]

I asked you what made the show bad but you responded with an opinion on halo 5

[tawdry kestrel]

Just egnore him he's a bra1nless 7et@rd who will just consume what ever is put in front of him and believe everything he's told like a good sheep it's not worth either off are time

[runic wind]

But they did need to accommodate first time viewers of halo as well, they couldn’t start a series in the middle without any prior knowledge

[runic wind]

Disagreeing with your opinion makes me a sheep?

[verbal fox]

Why can't they? I've seen movies with flash forwards before they jump back in time to events leading up to it

[verbal fox]

Do not attack the person, attack the argument

[runic wind]

Good point

[azure sierra]

bro the show is so good

[runic wind]

I personally am loving it, ep 3 was a blast

[azure sierra]

it was

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh no there multiplying

[verbal fox]

They are still people, they can enjoy the show if they so chose

[runic wind]

Yeah, that’s a troll

[verbal fox]

Again, attack the argument, not the person.

[tawdry kestrel]

No you having a below average iq score makes you a sheep and blindly following and sw@llowing what ever gets put Infront of your face wether good or bad makes you a sheep and btw that opinion that you said was about halo5....go back and read it SLOWLY you'll realise I said I'd rather play a horrible game then rewatch that terrable show......

[little anvil]

And yet thats exactly what Disney did with its Retconomicon is it not?

AHHHHH and theres the inevitable "sheep".
Whats next? Woke?

[verbal fox]

Yeah, how many people liked when Disney killed that?

[little anvil]

I was there.
I remember the fanboy rage like it was yesterday.
Im indifferent myself really, but I remember some people feeling a sense of utter and deep betrayal.

At least here, the two series arent interlinked at all, Silver doesnt replace Core, it exists alongside

[verbal fox]

That's already happening. I've seen the woke accusations

[little anvil]

Not surprised.

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh triggered warning no. It seriously I'm using a sheep as an example I could say a rat running on a wheel or a dog chasing it's own tail....both equally pointless..... And brainless

[little anvil]

Its like one of those old multi-step programs.
Get mad.
Make comment.
People argue.
Dont like counterarguments.
Wokeusations.

[little anvil]

Still inaccurate. You assume that someone with sentience cant enjoy the show on their own free will. Which I know for completely sure isn't true so.

[verbal fox]

My concern is it will. If the silver timeline doesn't die out, it will exist in competition with core Canon. There will be a group of fans who don't know what is truly Halo, book writers will want to expand on this Silver Timeline for money, then 20 years down the line someone is gonna suggest merging the two, to the destruction of one.

[little anvil]

I doubt we're going to get a Season 3 so

MCU and the comics still stand side by side though dont they?

[tawdry kestrel]

Anyway I'm out this place is full of angry sheep fan boys I'm going to go get something to eat....you guys enjoy your grass or something..."sheep"

[little anvil]

Bruh you came to the main Halo server and expected to find people who were going to complain and echo-chamber? Where the hell did your critical thinking complex go.

[runic wind]

“Jesse, what the F*** are you talking about?”

[verbal fox]

Yes but how many shows and videos are being made for the comics?
The existence of the silver timeline means we will likely never see our beloved characters and events from the books come to life on the big screen.

[little anvil]

Honestly Im alright with that so.

FuD was enough for me. Just keep giving me books and making the games, I'll keep moving forward.

[verbal fox]

We still haven't seen the Spartan Smile in a video format

And at this point we might not ever see it

At least between Chief and members of Blue Team

At least with the Fall of Reach animation we got to see all of Blue Team and Sam and Mendez

[little anvil]

They kinda buried Kurt as a whole anyway. Not a single mention of him in Legacy of Onyx.

[verbal fox]

Yeah, we will never see Kurt, the Spartan IIIs, Preston Cole, and dozens of other heroes who gave their lives in defense of Humanity on the big screen, just still images

[little anvil]

Honestly Im still okay with that. I dont need to see absolutely everything from the books on screen.
Would be nice but the logistics involved would be rather intense.
That said the series isnt going to collapse any time soon so theres a possibility of more in the future. 343 has presumably heard the complaints about the Silver stuff, and they do respond to fan critiques (though sometimes perhaps a bit much...)

Wouldnt mind some motion comics for stuff, like Headhunters or Mona Lisa.

[verbal fox]

I think what we really need is more depictions of space battles. There are very few instances of visual media regarding space battles, even fewer have video of it, and a smaller portion of that has a focus on the space battle itself

Those being the Spartan Ops intro with the Infinity, and the Battle over Chi Ceti in the Fall of Reach animation

[little anvil]

Live action Keyes Loop.
Make it happen 343

[fleet ermine]

They already got the cole protocol

[tawdry kestrel]

Isn't Keyes the Army in the show?

[timid ether]

man i really want to see keyes loop. i want to see that nuke coming in. him turning sideways into those alliance cruisers. scraping them open and then hitting the insides of that ship directly. that would be so epic

[little anvil]

Still a Navy Captain I believe.

If he was Army I doubt he'd be in White Tower, White Tower is HIGHCOM's facility. Armys under UNICOM.

[verbal fox]

UNICOM is under HIGHCOM

You are thinking FLEETCOM

[haughty dragon]

I enjoy this show. It has a distinct and interesting take on Halo. I love the main canon, but it's cool to see an adaptation reimagine it with thematic throughlines we didn't have before.

[tawdry kestrel]

Idk seems like we saw that before though

[haughty dragon]

The main halo canon shies away from portraying the totalitarianism and amorality of the UNSC.

[livid furnace]

Seems the show is doing the opposite

Showing the Innies as being pure and honorable

Both sides have used nukes and racked up counts

[real scarab]

Main Halo cannon was showing it in Hunt the Truth. But, it’s now gone 😥

[livid furnace]

Well honestly that was 90% ONI. Those guys were coasting off "For the greater good"

Honestly I even believe them.

[haughty dragon]

I'd wanna have nukes if I was fighting the UNSC too..

[fluid forum]

I'm glad Pablo Schreiber always takes his helmet off in the show, it helps not confuse him with master chief.

We have probably seen more screen time with him out of his armor and in that black jumpsuit then in the actual master chief persona

Not to mention, Pablo Schreiber is all over the place, one minute he is shouting "WHO AM I!!!" and the next he's all "beep boop I'm just a robot"

[sudden sun]

This show is just terrible. 343 literally misses the mark with everything Halo they do.

[real scarab]

sends same message multiple times. Still has to edit it

[tawdry kestrel]

Mate the main Halo canon is bashing the UNSC as a very morally ambigious unit in almost every book that was ever created

Well except the four one's that don't have UNSC in it for obvious reasons

[dense rover]

This might be too political for this discord

Does anyone else notice how gamergate-adjacent criticism of this show tends to be from die-hard Halo fans?

"This is what you get from having a diverse creative team." "They really subverted my expectations" "They wanna kill the Halo identity to make it something bland for hair-dyed college students!" "I bet they'll never show Arbiter because his armor is problematic" "Are we sure Kathleen Kennedy isn't the real executive producer"

I see those kinds of comments a lot

And it scares me, because generally when those guys show up in your fandom, it means the party's over.

Is anyone else seeing this?

[timid ether]

i wouldnt say thats die hard halo fans. more like sad people with a sad life

[tawdry kestrel]

I wonder what sort of place you going into because I didn't see a single comment like that.

And I'm on Plasmaposting and r/Halo for Gods sake

[haughty dragon]

Yes but the games don't, the main canon exists as a disparate set of interpretations by a lot of creators with their own visions, the show is a more focused vision with a more hardline take and I find that interesting

[tawdry kestrel]

So the main canon or just the games then mate? (let's ignore for a second that Halo 4 and 5 exist of course)

[haughty dragon]

I'm really not trying to be inflammatory. I say main canon as a whole, with the games existing as primary canon, which take priority for oversight by 343. They do portray the UNSC as morally questionable at times, but a majority of the books I've read seem to ultimately take a stance of "yeah that's pretty bad but Master Chief is good so it's excusable" and that's in the rare moments where the books try to actually say anything about it. Like fall of reach for example. The book invented the horror that is the Spartan program, but once the Spartans are trained, the story is no longer about that. It's just a solid military sci Fi romp. Ultimately the covert abduction and mutilation of the Spartan candidates in the name of crushing rebellions isn't there as part of a larger statement about militaristic regimes or the use of child soldiers, it's there for flavor. To make John more interesting.

And it does, don't get me wrong. And other books like the kilo 5 series are much more interested in that stuff, and the new games feature more references to the program, and problems with the UNSC, but because all the other stuff is still working within the game's original canon, and the canon of every other book, the author's hands are usually tied into not making any real statement about it.

What I was trying to say is, I appreciate that the tv show is reinterpreting everything for its own timeline, it gives the showrunners more freedom to make a statement. And so far they're doing that by portraying the UNSC as more overtly totalitarian, and letting that color all of the things we see them do. Like the way the UNSC higher ups don't really see Chief with admiration so much as see him as a dog, or a piece of hardware. Or how when we see the creation of Cortana, it's shown as a horrifically unethical and perverse thing. We haven't really gotten to see much of the covenant yet so I'm interested in seeing how their society is portrayed.

I'm not trying to say it's a better canon, I'm just trying to say what I like about it

[tawdry kestrel]

I disagree on the other hand. From my experience reading the books (and keep in mind, I did read most of them) it always seemed like a pretty logical thing and I always noticed how the UNSC was described as morally grey, so are the rebels. Because that was at the end of the day the point, the expanded universe shows humanity at it's very worst and it's very best. Be it Innies or UEG. Spartans are obviously portrayed as heroes, because that is what they were raised to be. That is the tragedy of their story, that ONI effectively indoctrinated them into seeing themselves as humanities protectors no matter the cost.

Now the show just goes on a UEG = Facist, losing all it's nuance from the books and making the Innie's badguysfromgermany wannabe's or some low-effort Star Wars Rebellion.

[cobalt pagoda]

It's like all the people that scrambled for excuses for the game are doing the same thing 10x for this series. It's a bad show.

[timid ether]

thats just your subjective opinion. you just have to accept that there are people that like the show. that has nothing to do with "scrambling for excuses". you just have to learn to accept others opinions like you want others to accept yours.

[cobalt pagoda]

People claim that you're not a real fan if you don't love the show though. There's this overwhelming " too bad, so sad" response to people that don't enjoy whats being done with Halo.

[timid ether]

i hear more "your not a real fan if you like the show" then what you say. either way. both statements are inherently wrong. everyone is different no matter of halo fan or not. there is no: "real" halo fans like the show or the other "real" halo fans dont like it. beeing a fan of something dosnt mean you have to hate or love it. thats up to everyones own likings.

[rotund hamlet]

People complaining about the Covenant's motivations not being exposed right away don't realize that theirs was never really explored beyond "We want to fire the rings" in the OT games either, and we didn't get the full scoop until Contact Harvest

[tawdry kestrel]

Well the show ain't canon so I'm fine with some halo action

[tawdry kestrel]

Yeah now I feel like it would tho

Halo series got a lot of viewership

P+ would want the money

[grim bone]

We’ll see how the viewership is come second season

Nobody is surprised the first few episodes have high viewership - a lot of people signed up to see how it is

Also they were letting people watch the first episode for free lol

[tawdry kestrel]

Really?

Free where tho

Regardless this show could be entertaining enough like Mando but meh version of Mando

[grim bone]

YouTube and there’s some sort of free trial version of Paramount+ out there I think

Although I’m not entirely sure on the second one

[tawdry kestrel]

Okay

Gamepass ultimate perks also give aways paramount+

[grim bone]

Also that

[livid furnace]

Yeah, but their opening line was "Your destruction is the will of the gods,"

Halo ring or no, that sends the message that this galaxy ain't big enough for the two of us

[little anvil]

Karen Traviss's books make up for that in spades

[little anvil]

YouTube

[tawdry kestrel]

Traviss books just dunk on everyone though

[little anvil]

The only real Halo fan is the fan who likes Halo.

[unique rover]

true

[fiery cairn]

well, to be fair, it's probably not really 343. but yes the show is bad.

[sudden sun]

343 is in charge of Halo, even if they didn't directly make the show, it was their responsibility

[fiery cairn]

Sure, if microsoft allows them to. Also, they didn't make it, so although are in charge, they probably didn't really have a choice.

[tawdry kestrel]

Well it's a entertaining show

[glossy pike]

"when you read a word like that (kiss) someone's supposed to kiss you" who df wrote this?

[verbal fox]

Yes, but no. They caved and let it become an alternate timeline, allowing the writers and director to maul the heck out of it. Hollywood is the primary evil here

[sudden sun]

Doesn't matter its still all terrible

[robust marsh]

I havent seen comments like that either. For the most part its about specific issues. Those are always debatable

[verbal fox]

Aww I missed the debate about the portrayal of the UNSC...
The showrunners suck and their message is trash. They support terrorism and aliens committing genocide.

[robust marsh]

Yeah, its way political when in the original its more about survival as the human race was about to be wiped out

[glossy pike]

holy dam a needle stabbed through cortana's eye, was not expecting that

[unique rover]

wait 343 made a show?

[robust marsh]

Very good way to put it. Ive read just about all the books as well and this is my understanding too

[unique rover]

so what i understand that 343 made a bad halo show that doesnt feal like halo [as they did in many games especialy halo 4] a

and the fans are angry about it

is that right

[open herald]

Ima say it

[robust marsh]

Kind of, Id say peeps are divided

[open herald]

4>5

It aint much but boy oh boy

[unique rover]

yeah halo 4 wasnt that bad but jeez what happned to the voices

they sound like they were using mices from 2007

[robust marsh]

I liked 4 better than 5. It had good possibilities to be the start of a good trilogy, but looking back after halo 5 makes it worse. That is since they didnt even go down the same storyline, so it made no sense

[open herald]

What killed me is they messed up the timeline of the games

[unique rover]

and the got rid of the plasma rifle

[unique rover]

i never tried 5 and i will never do

[robust marsh]

Literally, i was wrecked for a week. It was so far removed

[unique rover]

man

[robust marsh]

haha not crying but deep thinking

[unique rover]

for a game

[robust marsh]

I had to figure out why i couldnt like it

[unique rover]

jesus what the hell did 343 do

[open herald]

5 and last of us 2 definitely made me the most irritated with a story ive ever been tbh

[robust marsh]

ugh, so true

[unique rover]

well i heard that infinite is good [ i never tried it cus my pc is trash]

[open herald]

Infinite underneath the bad business model is a good halo game

[tawdry kestrel]

343 didn't do the show

[robust marsh]

It feels more halo 🤷🏻‍♂️ But id say they are still making storyline mistakes. Its a win compared to the other stuff

[unique rover]

atleast the neadler has its melee from ce

[unique rover]

oh ok thanks

[open herald]

Im really hoping this show picks up on fans reaction and learns to adapt core ideas of the games in to later seasons. So far, Cortana has been the one recognizable character

[robust marsh]

Wasnt 343 in charge of some of the creative liberties given for the show?

[robust marsh]

Last comment was meant for you, sorry

[unique rover]

i miss the days you guys were fighting about halo vs cod

[robust marsh]

Cortana and Halsey I have been okay with, otherwise nah

[unique rover]

now both games are trash huh

[open herald]

Same

[robust marsh]

I still like halo more, but i am biased haha

[unique rover]

everyone likes halo more than cod

i heard that cod is trash nowadays

i tried cod ww2

[open herald]

Vanguard zombies is awful

[unique rover]

and it was soo bad i aint gona lie

[open herald]

They removed so much

[unique rover]

and they did that incod ww2

[robust marsh]

The only reason I play is for some friends i dont get to talk to much

I keep suggesting halo 🤷🏻‍♂️

[unique rover]

sad to be you i guess

[open herald]

Understandable. Tell them to get better games tho

[robust marsh]

Its okay, my wife loves playing Halo

[unique rover]

but i tried call of duty world at war and it was so good

[open herald]

Wholesome

[unique rover]

well that is fotunate you are lucky

[unique rover]

good for you

[robust marsh]

Haha, thanks! Shes a keeper

[unique rover]

thats good

[robust marsh]

Lol, she is good now. BUT when we started she couldnt handle the two axis of movement and looking lololol Id find her running away from elites backward against the walls 🤣

[unique rover]

if the elites are from reach i understand why

[robust marsh]

haha, dang i wish they just stayed on that game path! It was the cherry on top of bungie games

[unique rover]

yeah especialy firefight

it was a good game mode

[robust marsh]

I played that for hours

[unique rover]

same

[robust marsh]

that and swat are my all time favorite

[unique rover]

the best was the customization

[unique rover]

me too

the most fun thing to do was having a gravity hamer and running super fast

and destroying anyone

[robust marsh]

Yeah, the customization looked awsome and fit the feel of the halo universe. That was a big issue for me with Halo 4, that armor style change wasnt for me.

[unique rover]

yeah

[robust marsh]

Yeah the sprint feature and a hammer, dang!

[unique rover]

and the story was amazing

[robust marsh]

Bungie understood story telling

[unique rover]

yeah unlike 343

[glossy pike]

I hate how the asian chick keeps insisting she wants to fight despite being 1000% useless when the aliens first invaded

[unique rover]

but bloom was bad tbh

[robust marsh]

Yeah, i hate to hate in 343, but its been a solid stream of dissapointments for years. Its hard to be open minded anymore

[robust marsh]

true

[unique rover]

everytime i try to play halo 4 i try not to sleep

the story is boring

[robust marsh]

I am so over these political arcs they are making. Halo is more about saving humanity from extinction

Idk, it get so bored with characters like hers

[glossy pike]

her character just sucks

"OH my entire family and squad got elimited by aliens, but my dumbo as still gonna preach for a civil war"

[unique rover]

that is her entire personality??

[glossy pike]

I feel like every episode she goes back to that point

[robust marsh]

haha, thats a good snapshot of her character

[tawdry kestrel]

They could give a spartan more time rather than Kwan I suppose

[unique rover]

so what is the story for this show i dont understand

what was the point

[robust marsh]

Ultimately i think they are rushing character growth pretty bad

As viewers we need time to see a baseline for the character so that when things get interesting it stands apart

I feel like we are just being thrown in a mess of ungrounded characters and its inconsistant other than it will loosely follow the series...loosely

[verbal fox]

I rather spend 20 minutes listening to Lord Hood give a status update on the war than watch a minute of Kwan

[robust marsh]

Hahaha!

[verbal fox]

That was a pretty decent review, though it seemed focused on the games. Have you read the books?

[robust marsh]

Thanks. Yeah, Ive read the books. I wanted to start with a simple premise, the games, and then maybe do more videos on the books and in depth character changes that have been made.

[verbal fox]

Here's something I've been posting a lot of places:
My belief that any adaptation or change has to be grounded in keeping one of two things the same: The World or the Characters.
The World (or Foundations/Core) is the themes and situations involved in the show, such as storyline/plot, ongoing conflicts, the events and world in general.
The Characters are more than just appearances and names, but include the motivations, background, beliefs, thoughts, etc, the character of the characters.
Changing one of those makes for a fine story.
Perhaps someone wants to see how some original ODST squad reacts to the events of HCW. That's just a change in characters but the World is still the same.
Or someone wants to see how the Master Chief (as he is in canon) reacts to a far less evil Covenant.
If you change both things, you subvert what came before and get into the nonsensical. It has no relation to what came before.

The strongest points of the argument are pointing out the changes Hollywood made to it, like the Chosen One Trope or Super Special Protagonist tropes

[robust marsh]

Yeah, I want to get into how the plot and character deviations are growing too large. I lightley hit on the chosen one trope, but will hopefully do that more in depth with a specific video on Cheif. I kind of left him out of the first video as it would take way longer

I figured the next video woud be about the chief of the games/books versus the series

[verbal fox]

Like these easiest thing to point out is that they made, for the show, Chief as the Strongest and Fastest of the Spartans. Cortana states it in Episode 3.
This is completely in the face of what Cortana said at the intro of Halo 3, where she says "Like the others, you were strong and swift and brave"

[robust marsh]

Yeah, wasnt kelly possibly the fastest?

[verbal fox]

Kelly is the fastest

Sam before he died was the strongest

There others much smarter than John

[robust marsh]

Yeah, its small but numerous changes that keep coming, alongside massive changes too. ugh

Oh yeah, i always viewed him as "lucky" not simply the best at everything

[verbal fox]

Yes, that's is his character, just lucky

[robust marsh]

Which i think is why his charcter works as well. A bit of an everyman character, despite the fact he is a supersoldier

[verbal fox]

This show has tossed out the luck for "Special". That doesn't mean anything to the fans of Halo, and doesn't mean anything to newcomers

But they've undermined him more fundamentally than that. They tore up the entire Spartan II Program to make it far more evil

Brainwashing

Halsey was fundamentally against Brainwashing

[robust marsh]

So annoying, it was good being morally grey

[verbal fox]

But they flipped it on its head to fabricate drama

[robust marsh]

Exactly, its all stupid inserted drama

Thats kind of the point I was trying to make in the video, that and the fact halo is no longer halo

Its become a characterization of itself

[verbal fox]

The intro you gave about Halo, trying to remember what it was. You said Discovery and some other things

[robust marsh]

Survival, discovery and courage to face the impossible

[verbal fox]

Yes, those. That's your thesis. Nail the show with those and you don't even have to go into the lore of the characters

You didn't touch on Discovery or the impossible in the review as much as you should

[robust marsh]

Good point

I guess i got lost in my different ideas about everything i see wrong.

[verbal fox]

Survival: Humanity's back against the wall, fighting for its very existence.
-Makee, being a part of the Covenant, violates this immediately, not to mention there is no focus on genocide by Aliens. If Humanity is a part of the Covenant, you divide the story. Its no longer all Humans fighting for survival.

Discovery: The discovery of Humanity's greater purpose and the understanding of mysterious alien species.
-Without Humanity's Reclaimer status, it violates that core tenant. All of Humanity is supposed to be special. Humans, one and all, have a greater purpose that they themselves need to discover. Without that, the show is no different than any other TV show that explores the Human condition.
-Halo Rings and the Forerunners give into mystery, to give us awe and wonder that pulls us in, that attracts our curiosity, only to pull back the veil and discover Horror: The Flood. They've treated the Halo Rings as no longer a mystery by declaring it a weapon. Its now an objective to winning a war, not a curiosity that has the audience questioning its purpose.

Courage to Face the Impossible: The Covenant, the Flood, and the Forerunners are all exceedingly dangerous and powerful. The odds are not in your favor, yet Chief and Humanity fights on.
-There is nothing impossible in the show. John's been literally handed everything on a silver platter. He is invincible, undefeatable, unstoppable, getting basically whatever he wants. Chief wasn't that in Halo. Chief was never able to stop the Autumn from being overrun, he couldn't save his fellow Spartans on Reach, he couldn't save countless Marines and Civilians, or stop the Covenant from glassing world after world. We got none of that in the show.

@robust marsh

[amber egret]

did ep 4 come out?

ive lost track of time

[verbal fox]

For a short review, just make a Thesis with Three main points, then go into the points with evidence to back it up, then conclude. None of supporters of the show have made effective supporting arguments from what I've seen, typically they attack strawmen like "You just want the games in Show form" or "You aren't a Halo fan" or "Its an Alternate Timeline"

[verbal fox]

not till Thursday

[robust marsh]

Great. Ill extrapolate on certain areas that i see people would try and refute that ive seen already

Thanks for the help

[obsidian aurora]

Halo series slowly getting better but still not goof

[verbal fox]

Don't keep your hopes up, Weddy, you'll just be disappointed

[verbal fox]

Of course, glad to be of assistance

[amber egret]

imo 3 was worse than the previous two

[minor python]

Lotta people like the schlock and are willing to put up with a meh story. /Shrug

[amber egret]

its just master chief walking for 1 hour

[minor python]

That's my takeaway from this for the people who are having fun with it

[silver mauve]

when does the next episode come out?

[minor python]

Every Thursday

[plucky flame]

that scene wit the hunter worms was cool

[minor python]

Saw a clip of that. Ye

[sudden sun]

Whats the point of hunters wearing armor then?

[plucky flame]

for fight scenes ig

idk wym ngl lmao

[amber egret]

and that was pretty much all. the rest was just chief walking

and halsey doing some random science stuff

[timid ether]

lekgolo form a mgalekgolo gestalt to enhance their strength, defensive capabilities, intelligence and attack power. the arbiter at that time witnessed them forming a mgalekgolo gestalt with the help of some rocks to strengthen and keep the bipedal form, he saw their potential and made them join the covenant so they gave them armor to defend and attack themselfes even better.

[amber egret]

what

[sudden sun]

But they're invincible when they have no armor

[timid ether]

no they are def not

[livid furnace]

Someone pointed out we were looking at a Hunter

As in singular

[urban sparrow]

yeah

[little spindle]

Laughs in Halo Nightfall
What a funky little film. I watched it back when I was deep into Halo 5 and thought it was aight.

Now the TV show, obviously a step up from Nightfall. Granted, it's got a higher budget to my knowledge

[timid ether]

nightfall was def. strange and wierd but okay. i just liked they showed hunter worms since we didnt really see those as much to that point. specially in different forms other then mgalekgolo.

[little spindle]

Agreed

[graceful schooner]

Having the worms squiggle around by themselves probably costs less than animating the full hunter in its armor with the reflective metal armor and glow of the hand cannon lmao

The shows seems to have a lot of budget constraints sometimes

I feel like they only have like five BR props lol

[crisp hound]

I mean I’m (hopefully) sure they’ll show the full forms in coming episodes, when the action gets a bit more common

[livid furnace]

Which astounds me because they played up the budget

One possibility is they're giving us teaspoons and the steak is around the corner.

As in they saved the money for something big CGI-wise

The other? Not wisely spent?

I refuse to believe that with this budget they don't have something up their sleeves. I just can't believe it

[rotund hamlet]

To be honest about your second point most of the fandom hated the idea of Humanity being special during the Reclaimer Saga.

Add in the poorly-explained in-game and widely-derided-as fascist-and-racist Mantle of Responsibility, and you understand why the writers chose to severely limit the idea of what a Reclaimer can be

The more I rewatch the episodes the more I think the Covenant's motivations have been changed to being affront of Humanity's colonialism "desecrating" forerunner "artifacts"

[robust marsh]

I hope that is true, but i dont think they spent money wisely at this point.

[rotund hamlet]

Season 2 is definitiely going to introduce a Kig-Yar after what they pulled with Ruth

[plucky flame]

I think it could improve

they jus gotta stop allat walkin n start allat fighting fr

cuz the action scenes dope

[sudden sun]

You mean the same as Halo Nightfall?

Where it was cheaper to be lazy?

[graceful schooner]

Yes I think it is, at least partially, a little lazy

It’s always cool to see the lekgolo outside of their tanky form every now and then but I hope this is the only time they do it

[rotund hamlet]

Nightfall ceased to be passable when the ring fragment took center-stage, but that's a conversation for another time

[graceful schooner]

I agree with this, seeing as we saw part of the Mgalekgolo it’s probably them trying to get us hyped up

[graceful schooner]

I feel like Randall in nightfall is what Soren should’ve been more like

I liked him a lot more in the third episode, when he tells Qwan or whatever her name is “I won’t crush your head as a courtesy to John,” or something along those lines I thought, now THATS what a scarred and grizzled SPARTAN II defector would sound like

Seeing him joke around and be all dilly dally with his kid and smoke the equivalent of a joint gave me tonal whiplash lol

[amber egret]

yeah pretty much

[queen gulch]

bruh ima have to get paramount+ just for this show lol

why does it have to be on some random service no one cares about

why not hbo max or prime or Netflix

would be a lot more popular with more viewers lmao

[amber egret]

because m o n e y

you can get 30 days for free with gamepass

if you have that

[verbal fox]

or wait till the end of may, get it 7 days for free, then binge it all

[amber egret]

^

[topaz sphinx]

mad respect for carrying like 50lbs of armor throught a whole season of a show.

[livid furnace]

Someone with a decent amount of strength can weather 50 lbs for a while.

[acoustic notch]

Not to mention they wouldn't have such a crappy production

Imagine if they got disney to produce it

[azure otter]

Hola

[amber egret]

Did the elites in ep 1 say wort wort?

[hoary wharf]

yes

[dusk ice]

watching Halo the series declassified episode 1, pablo said the entire team before shooting went to 343 bootcamp to learn some halo lore stuff which is interesting

so the variety article that said they dont pay attention to the game is pointless

the writers and showrunner knows their stuff

using the pre existing canon lore and make it or modify it to make their own

[dusk ice]

whoaaaaa halo the series declassified episode 3 the prophets were all puppets no wonder it looks good

[tawdry kestrel]

So Captain Keyes is lookin little a bit tan before he got infected by the gravemind

How did he get so pale by CE

[arctic mist]

What what

[glacial widget]

Halo good 😌

People crying it isn’t a retelling of the games bad

[glacial widget]

Keys didn’t get infected by the gravemind. The ball of flood goo we kill him in was a proto-gravemind being formed

[verbal fox]

That's a complete mischaracterization of why people are disappointed, severely, by the show. People are not calling for a retelling of the games, they wanted a legitimate Halo story in line with core canon that kept Halo's core themes. Whether that be following one of the books, or creating an original story that was still apart of canon, not this utter perversion that undermines Halo as a whole.

[dusk ice]

pablo said episode 6 is his favorite episode and he said hinting its makee & john episode i guess

super excited

[spice summit]

Maybe we'll have a re-enactment of Chief going: "Makee, I am your father"

[verbal fox]

"Makee, I am your brother!"

[spice summit]

"Makee, you are adopted"

[rotund hamlet]

"Makee, where did my skin go?"

[spice summit]

🤣

[verbal fox]

"You were my sister, Makee! I loved you."

[spice summit]

Sweeet hooome Alabama

[tawdry kestrel]

Makee pass the sanghelli gosik

Or was it sosig

[dusky nova]

This is such a fun sentence.

[dusk ice]

its over makee i have the highground

[verbal fox]

"You underestimate my power!" Activates energy swords on all 10 fingers

[dusk ice]

"I HAAAAAATE YOOOOOUUUUUU" in sangheili language

[inner hull]

I just imagine her speaking in sanghelli then screaming in elite