halo-the-series-chat

[lofty dock]

I feel like the acting in the show is really good for what the actors were working with

[verbal fox]

If Halo didn't exist, this show would be spectacular

[lofty dock]

yes

[cloud grail]

Agree

[lofty dock]

its a good show for someone who has never seen anything about halo

[opaque wraith]

As much as I would love to see events from the canon in this series, I’m still pretty happy with how it’s going. I just remind myself it’s a different universe.

[lofty dock]

yeah

its a good show as long as we don't take it too seriously

[opaque wraith]

Like seeing how plasma actually destroys everything is awesome

[cloud grail]

I just hope the add in Sgt. Johnson at some point (without changing anything about his personality)

[opaque wraith]

They really haven’t held back on the brutality of it either.

[verbal fox]

That's the real crime. We have to throw away what we know to enjoy it. That is a fundamental disservice to fans

[opaque wraith]

Tbh the fans would probably still hate it even if they went the canon route. There would just be different things to complain about.

[late tartan]

To think pablo is that one prison guard from orange is the new black 💀

[lofty dock]

they want to show you war and war is brutal. and I love that part of the show

[late tartan]

Didn’t recognise him without the stache

[opaque wraith]

I won’t spoil it but the start of episode 2 does a good job of that

[lofty dock]

I think they would hate it more because then we would have to deal with the stuff from the show in the games

also I already saw episode 2

[opaque wraith]

Ah okay. You know the scene with the guy then.

[lofty dock]

yep

he is brutal

[opaque wraith]

I saw him in pacific rim as a quirky scientist yesterday and now this ☠️

[lofty dock]

oof

thats like going from animal crossing to DOOM eternal

[opaque wraith]

Pacific rim x Halo crossover when? I want giant UNSC machines ripping scarabs apart now

[lofty dock]

YES

[opaque wraith]

Giant Sangheili Kaiju

[verbal fox]

They haven't shown Covenant Glassing and genocide yet

[visual shard]

Ya I agree acting by actor was fantastic but the thing is as being halo audience we always seen master chief in armor but this series is made for one who dont play games or halo so they don't know what is this story about but after seeing all this series they will dont get that og feelings that og halo players get...

[lofty dock]

not yet

[lofty dock]

also yeah
I am relatively new to halo and I even think chief taking off his helmet was a bad idea

[kind lagoon]

Chief without the helmet annoys me.

[opaque wraith]

Most likely gonna see a lot more of it from now on

[visual shard]

Ya but all after we accept his face and they making me more disappointed while taking his armor and his armor over again and again in ep2

And my final words towards halo ep2 is I dont feel like I was watching halo .

[wraith socket]

Man, what are you talking about? The acting is freaking awful roflmao. I don't even necessarily blame the actors; the script and directing is just dog crap

[lofty dock]

I really hope they don't take his helmet off anymore unless its for something really big

[visual shard]

Hey I dont blame the actor

[wraith socket]

Reminds me a lot of Hayden Christensen in the Star Wars prequels. He's honestly not a bad actor, but George Lucas was purposefully directing him to be just like the worst in episode 2 and 3

[lofty dock]

yeah

the actors were great for what they were working with

[visual shard]

Dude check whats is topic going on we are taking bout other stuff 😂

[visual shard]

Yeah hope soo they dont let us down in ep 3

[lofty dock]

yeah

[verbal kindle]

Ikr

[vapid plank]

If only they had a director who played the games…

I hope chiefs face gets like fqed up or somthin so he can actually look cool😂🥲

[lofty dock]

I would like that

[vapid plank]

I vote ref to be the main character lmao

[little anvil]

Or the guy from the new Batman movie when he played the vampire lead in Twilight. Great actor, absolute trash script.

[verbal kindle]

Just finished episode 2

[verbal kindle]

Yes yes

[forest horizon]

Is this show going have a crossover with Arrow or maybe the new Catwoman series? That would be cool.

[steep osprey]

Nah but they may leave to make a Destiny series

[idle pawn]

this has been debunked already, the director did play the games, how are people still spreading this bs?

[woven prairie]

does anybody know the code for the episode 2 sneake peak?

[little anvil]

Same way the approximate cost of the show keeps going around and before that, numbers related to basically anything else divisive even a little bit.
Bits of data that support people's beliefs tend to get parroted ad-infinitum.

[heady halo]

Honestly this whole series so far sucks

[vapid plank]

They should just stick to halo legends😂

[vapid plank]

Ohh I heard it on reviews

[heady halo]

93 million dollars for a mess

Hmph

[little anvil]

Because they took an out of context tweet and used it to grab attention.

[heady halo]

I really want to ping Samulet and tell her that they should’ve planned better

[stark bay]

Heard this show sucks

[steep osprey]

Definitely mixed opinions but a lot like it too

[opaque wraith]

Better to decide for yourself what you think of it

[verbal fox]

She wasn't in charge, lmao. Ping Kiki if she is on here

[little anvil]

She aint

[vapid wing]

You know

I think episode 2 was a lot better

[steep osprey]

Agreed. Cinematics were leaps and bounds better

[vapid wing]

Rough start with the first episode but it seems like it’s picking itself back up

[little anvil]

As many shows tend to do.

[vapid wing]

That being said. First impressions are important

[patent spire]

You know that it's not a good show when they have to unmask the protagonist on the first episode.

No build up or anything

[vapid wing]

I won’t be able to give an overall review until the whole season is done but it’s gone from terrible to just ok so far

I honestly don’t really care that he removes his helmet

Doesn’t really add or take anything away for me

[little anvil]

Theres a human under it, always has been one. Him leaving it on all the time was Bungies attempt to make him "you", and thats gone out of style a long time ago

[steep osprey]

I agree. I’ve been wanting the face reveal for years. Especially when they kinda teased it a long time ago. It was getting annoying IMO.

[vapid wing]

One thing I’m not a fan of is the fact that we just left one place only to immediately go back there

It’s too early to tell if I don’t like the show yet

I’ll wait till episode 3 to decide if it’s worth sticking it out till the end

That’s my usual rule with shows

[quaint nexus]

What if the show was a halo legends style, where they don't focus on chief

[steep osprey]

I do same thing, except I couldn’t even finish the first episode of Reacher. Mostly because I couldn’t get past how Reacher is Thadd from Blue Mountain State lol

[vapid wing]

Get me a show about Spartan 1337

[quaint nexus]

A show that caters to fans would be dope

[grim bone]

It’s not even a real face reveal tho cuz it’s the fake Walmart brand master chief 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[tawdry kestrel]

[grim bone]

and we knew what his face looked like forever

[west stump]

It annoys me because it’s so wasted, you can do a lot more than you think with a faceless protagonist in terms of story, and ignoring that there’s the simple hook of the mystery

[little anvil]

Exceedingly

[west stump]

We might know what his face looks like, but the so called “broad audience” don’t

They’re appealing to no one here

How do you hand over so much money to people who have no idea what they’re doing with it

^

If you do have him take his helmet off

Don’t have him do it halfway through the first damn episode

That’s just stupid from every point

Hell, at least then the bad CGI would be justified

I’m 50% sure the model they used when he tossed the AR was literally ripped from Halo 3

^

The freaking Doomslayer had a better face reveal in Eternal than this, and we’ve known what he looks like for nearly 30 years

Well, Bethesda were the publishers

Id handled the actual game

Nah, I get ya

Bethesda know the right people to throw money at

[tardy blaze]

imo face reveal is fine, the problem is how casual and how early they did it, like first episode bro? really? and for an insignificant reason too? like damn in halo 4 we see chief without a helmet simply because he's unassembling his armor

[west stump]

^

Oh yeah speaking of, two episodes in and he’s already out of his armour too

He took off his helmet before, sure, but I’m pretty sure that canonically he didn’t pry himself out of his Mark 6 from Cairo Station all the way to after the Diadact composed New Phoenix

[tardy blaze]

no cap the intro actually looks insane

this show is weirdly inconsistent

[little anvil]

Welcome to pandemic filiming and editing.

[tardy blaze]

sometimes it looks like it's straight from a movie (the high charity and reach shots) and then there's the ce assault rifle

[west stump]

And the writing

Don’t forget the untextured Plasma Pistol they could have fixed in half an hour

[wispy vortex]

the intro is more funny than it is cool. Introduce characters for a whole 5 minutes then spend 15 minutes slaughtering them. When there is no weight to it the gore stops being shocking and just becomes funny.

[tardy blaze]

yup, from cgi to cardboard

[wispy vortex]

Plus the elites being invincible until a spartan shoots them is super noticable

[west stump]

My biggest problem with the whole “caters to a broad audience” thing is that aside from the original Halo already being perfect for that, it leads to such clunky dialogue

Chief and the gang walk 5 miles to be beneath a Phantom they could have seen from twice as far away, and Chief feels the need to clarify that it’s a “Covenant Phantom”

[wispy vortex]

he shoots them harder

[west stump]

Y’know, unlike all those Phantoms the UNSC use

[wispy vortex]

tbf the banished or heretics may exist.

[dreamy current]

is the show worth it

[west stump]

They were getting shot at by the Covenant half an hour ago

It’s bright purple

It’s so obviously said purely for the sake of the audience because this show doesn’t understand “show, don’t tell”

[dreamy current]

is it based on current games or does it branch off as its own story

[wispy vortex]

I dont know, and I dont think the showrunners know.

IDK why they make such a big fuss about it being a "silver timeline". Like, nobody ever has this confusion about other adaptations.

[dreamy current]

oh ic

[west stump]

Because other adaptations don’t butcher the hell out of every single aspect and detail for audience appeal

[wispy vortex]

oh yes they do.
This happens all the time

[west stump]

I’m pretty sure 343 came up with the Silver timeline when they saw the previews for this and went “we just started fixing this with halo infinite, the fans are gonna kill us when this drops”

Okay, yeah, you got me there

But yeah, most studios just ignore whenever an adaptation does this sort of thing, it’s a quick buck and most of the fans can grin and bare it because of the source material quality

343 doesn’t have that luxury

Halo 4 was meh, 5 was just godawful, and Infinite is still getting mixed opinions on both the campaign and multiplayer, as well as the choices made about the game as a whole

They can’t have a bad series drop too, so they made it semi-canon before it was released

[grim bone]

Yup.

[south shore]

I want a different company to make a halo reach movie.

[sharp barn]

I am curious how bringing the broader audience will work out for them.

Didn't work that well for their live service video-game, hopefully this series may change the course.

[hasty sedge]

Wondering that myself

[verbal fox]

Given that Hollywood wants the cash, the Hollywood friendly media is gonna spin that it is popular

[dusky ether]

How long is Episode 2?

[heady halo]

54 minutes

[dusky ether]

Ok

[sharp barn]

Well the issue i see is that the broader audience always moves on to the current new thing. So why not stay with fans and introduce the new fans to the wonderful world of Halo?

Just like Halo 4 copied elements from Call of duty and it went downhill.

[verbal fox]

Because they aren't that smart. Its about more people and more money now, not long time dedication

In a world that is all about more, more, more, more, and more, they won't settle for what they have

[cloud grail]

I’m honestly more upset about the actual canon from 4-5-Infinite being terrible than I am about a non-canon show. At least now the show can’t butcher the canon timeline even more

[sharp barn]

Guess quick money before quality is the new trend.

[verbal fox]

Have you seen Star Wars?

Been a very prevalent Hollywood trend

[sharp barn]

I've the old ones, didn't brother with the new after checking their reviews. Seems like they rushed through the story how to become a jedi master and other shenanigans.

This Halo show seems to follow the same foot sets unfortunately.

[verbal fox]

Its the trend with everything. Even look at Battlefield 2042 and Halo Infinite. It was a miracle that they delayed Halo Infinite, and Battlefield desperately needed it but they just pushed it out hard.

[tawdry kestrel]

Implying that old star wars wasn't also a cash cow that George Lucas sucked dry

[verbal fox]

Well at least George Lucas didn't delete legends

[sharp barn]

He didn't need to-do that. But guess you should ask Disney the same.

[tawdry kestrel]

Implying that Legends wasn't in desperate need of deletion. Georgey boy was so quick to approve everything and anything.
For every Thrawn Trilogy, there was 50 books about utter nonsense

Old EU lore was a mess. There were tiers of canonicity! Lmao

[verbal fox]

You may have thought so, but there was many that disagreed. They simply could have realigned what existed with time

[tawdry kestrel]

They have though

There's been plenty of plotlines and characters taken from legends material and adapted to fit the new expanded lore

[verbal fox]

Not really, it didn't really work out for them... well, for the fans that is. Disney still profited because no one could stand up to them

[tawdry kestrel]

Keep fighting that fight brodah

[hardy merlin]

hey yo everybody, I just wached hallo series and I can say that this is the best show i ever seen in my live

[tawdry kestrel]

Brace yourself lol

[verbal fox]

Oh boy, that reeks of propaganda

Sadly they block gifs and pics

[hardy merlin]

but why

[hardy merlin]

sad

[verbal fox]

Here let's begin. Why do you think so highly of the show?

[hardy merlin]

i like the actors

and the story

[sharp barn]

As a long time Halo fan I find it fine. Nothing special so far but I like the visuals (when they work) and the action. The story, too early to judge, it's a different timeline so I'll be curious to see how the story will progress.

[verbal fox]

Go on, why do you like the story?

[hardy merlin]

hmmmmmmmmmm

tell me why you dont

i meat its perfect

[verbal fox]

Oh I could tell you the whole plot. Its quite obvious now

[verbal fox]

Have you played any of the games or read any of the books or seen any other Halo media?

[hardy merlin]

phh

ofcorse

halo 5 was my favorite it remine me the show

[verbal fox]

Okay, so take the story they gave us, and rip away the appearances. The names, the locations, the armor, the weapons, the dates, etc. Just take the story. Does it sound like a Halo story....

[hardy merlin]

and this master chef

offf he is so hot

[hardy merlin]

in the show

hey did you like the show?

or you not the real halo fan?

hmmmm????

[mellow patrol]

Dark are you drunk right now?

[hardy merlin]

nope

[mellow patrol]

🤨

[hardy merlin]

are you?

[mellow patrol]

I wish

[hardy merlin]

why

[mellow patrol]

Cheaper than treatment 🇺🇸

[hardy merlin]

mmm

[plucky leaf]

Lol

Massive lols

[hardy merlin]

hey can i ask a quastion? @mellow patrol

whay Jameson Locke wasn't in halo 6?😔

[mellow patrol]

Infinite?

[hardy merlin]

yes

[mellow patrol]

Probably reserved for a later DLC where a more fleshed out story can include him

That's if it will ever happen at all

[hardy merlin]

oh what is your favorite halo game?

@mellow patrol

[hasty sedge]

Well that was interesting

[hardy merlin]

what was interesting?

[mellow patrol]

Personally? ODST

Cool atmosphere, pretty challenging, good damn music

[hardy merlin]

eh bad game you even cant sprint in this game

so slow game not interesting

[hasty sedge]

The whole conversation

[woven prairie]

why do you have to do this

[hardy merlin]

do what?

im teling the truth

[woven prairie]

why do people hate games without sprint

why do people hate games where you're encouraged to look around you, and take in your environment. if you don't get that about ODST then I think you've missed the point...

[hardy merlin]

because its so solw

[hasty sedge]

ODST was a pretty fun game id say, was enjoyable to look around the various areas

[woven prairie]

exactly

[hasty sedge]

Though halo 2 was my favorite

[sharp cradle]

🤜 🤛

[woven prairie]

there are so many hidden things, supply caches, glyphs, allegories, references, layers. ODST... Its beautiful

[hardy merlin]

no its short and slow

[hasty sedge]

Oddly I was found it amusing to watch the Covenant patrol around and interact with each other. Shame neither Bungie nor 343 ever added in a permanent camo skull

[hardy merlin]

halo 6 is better

and 5

[hasty sedge]

Well of course its relatively short, it wasn't supposed to be a full on game all on its own

It was originally met to just be DLC to halo 3

[woven prairie]

Ok no

you just crossed a line man

Halo 5 is undeniable garbage. its sad but true. it was bland, convuluted and uninspired

I'd rather play Aliens, colonial marines than 5

[hardy merlin]

i thing Jameson Locke is better than master chef

[hasty sedge]

While I agree Fire, his opinion could be simply different. Every fan has their own favorite game

[hardy merlin]

it would be better if he was the main character

in halo 6

[woven prairie]

eh thats kinda fair, Locke in 5 acts a lot like chief in 1,2&3

as in he's cardboard like the 123 chief

not a lotta depth

[hasty sedge]

Wasn't terribly fond of Locke for those reasons as well

[woven prairie]

I do appreciate how in 4 we got a bit more personality from chief, and got a bit more... inside him

[mellow patrol]

Dude I only found two supply caches somehow kekw

I really need to explore more

[woven prairie]

you can ask the superintendent to help u

/ virgil

[mellow patrol]

Oh damn really?

[hasty sedge]

Still think the best halo story was Thel's in halo 2. We see him go through a proper character arc into redemption

[woven prairie]

its on the dpad somewhere

[mellow patrol]

Funky

[woven prairie]

up on dpad I think

[mellow patrol]

No denying that, Halo 2 had a stunning story

[mellow patrol]

I'm gonna have to find the pc controls later, college is absolutely demolishing me

Imagine being an Asian like me and forgetting precal right before major exams, smh me

[woven prairie]

yeah

[mellow patrol]

Ooh wait we should probably take this to #general-chat or something, this is no longer a chat on the series lmao

And back to the precal grind I go, seeyall

[woven prairie]

yeah lets do that

oh bye, have...fun?

[cloud grail]

Johnson always came through in 2 with comedic relief and general badassery

[blissful tinsel]

I see a lot of ppl saying they don't like the series, but after seeing the episode 1 and 2 i must say the visuals are incredible and the story seems cool, it doesn't have to be 1:1 with the games. Why are the opinions so divided on this ?

[verbal fox]

Its not Halo

[hasty sedge]

Would be nice if they focused more on the combat and the whole, "Covenant is wiping people out like ants" thing going on. All up for character development, but it shouldn't be the main focus on such a series

[blissful tinsel]

yeah i can understand

maybe in the next episodes

rn they present the spartan and everything

but like the visuals are so good it remind me a lot of mass effect

[verbal fox]

They a changed a lot of the foundations. Visually, I don't disagree and the cast does well with what they have, but if you took away the Halo look and appearance, it doesn't sound like a Halo story

[hasty sedge]

Eh there is plenty i don't like about it, but at this point its grinding a dead horse. Can't even beat it anymore

[livid furnace]

I do like the visuals at times

Sometimes they're very nice

Like the city on Reach

I find that very nice looking in the daytime.

I'd like seeing some shots of maybe the roads or pathways that characters maybe walk and talk on.

[hasty sedge]

Yeah, set pieces like that are rather nice

[livid furnace]

I'm a sucker for cityscapes

[hasty sedge]

Hell, one of my favorite is the panning over High Charity in one of the h2A terminals. Sering the bustle of areal traffic and the unique sky(dome?) Scrapers

[modest basin]

Thoughts on the halo show?

I liked it

[little anvil]

Ft. that total bro of a San'Shyuum archivist. That dude was cool.

[fringe minnow]

it is almost 8:00 and thats when I watch new episodes

[modest basin]

Some points were not too good with the cgi bout otherwise it was good in my opinion

[stone summit]

wait

[cloud grail]

Didn’t they advertise the whole “find the ring, win the war” line? Hopefully they get on that soon haha

[stone summit]

we already have episode 2!?

[urban sparrow]

yes

[hasty sedge]

@cloud grail even that is dumb, seeing as the UNSC doesn't even know about halo until after Keys and co. Found it

[fallen kayak]

Episode 2 was good

I'm liking it

[eternal bronze]

Yea whoever said this show is all about Kwan Ha and we'd see in episode 2 man you were right /sarcasm

[upbeat island]

I really love the actor that plays vinsher. When I saw him in the pilot I was really excited.

He was great in pacific rim and the expanse.

[reef bloom]

This was supposed to be seperate from the extended universe and games anyways.

It’s it’s own little reality. Kind of like the thought behind the fracture events in Halo Infinite

[upbeat island]

Yes

[queen terrace]

John looks like Paul Blart am I right or am I right

[hasty sedge]

Looks more like Pablo

[glass dome]

when do new episodes of halo come out in est?

[untold plinth]

So I’m really enjoying the show

My only complaint is that how do you have the most iconic soundtrack and barely use it.

5am est Thursday mornings @glass dome

[glass dome]

thanks

[untold plinth]

I mean yeah there are bits a pieces of it but it’s very limited

[jovial sun]

because a lot of fans wish it was closer to the core canon even though its a separate timeline. it just seems like they took all the characters and settings and did something completely different with them.

[alpine nexus]

^

Can hardly be called a Halo show

Sure, it has the same characters, but they function completely differently

CGI definitely improved in the second episode, but then again there were no action scenes

[acoustic notch]

I feel like the episodes are too short they should be longer like those shows that do nearly 2 hours an episode

What worse is there is only 9 episodes when I'm already feeling like they are roo short for what it is

[ashen sierra]

I feel like this show has improved since last episode and I think it's becoming a good show. But it's only good if you forget everything you knew about Halo lore as literally nothing is the same

[alpine nexus]

Yup. They rewrote the entirety of the lore basically, only reason its still called Halo is for the brand

[open herald]

I genuinely am so confused on the market they’re trying to hit

They didnt play the games yet there are literally game influences in the show

[alpine nexus]

Not Halo fans, maybe the general public? Paramount+ exclusive really limits them as well

[ashen sierra]

Probably new halo fans. That's the only thing I can come up with. Or people who don't know what halo is but are interested in it

[open herald]

But the characters are so off

I guess yeah

Its just

[alpine nexus]

You don't have to know anything about Halo to know that the helmet is what makes Chief iconic, yet they have it off most of the show

[open herald]

Weird

They love to get this man stripped

Like they cannot help it

[alpine nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmdb-KmlzD8&ab_channel=HALO In this trailer you know what the big reveal was? The helmet, and it worked amazingly

[open herald]

Honestly

[alpine nexus]

Boba Fett had the same problem, guess nobody learned from that

[open herald]

The forward unto dawn makes me wish they would have ran off that

The chief just hits better in it

[verbal fox]

Facts

[open herald]

Sounds more like him and everything

[alpine nexus]

steve downes voice acting is a must though

[open herald]

Yeah, not hearing Steve takes me out of the show entirely and im trying so hard to get past it

[ashen sierra]

For me, I started playing Halo in reach but only multi-player with friends. It wasn't until last year when I got into the lore and even still ik they got it completely wrong.
Although for me it's easy to judge things on the individual project first, then judge how it connects to everything. Since this show isn't meant to be Canon, it's not really a point in judging it as connected to the Canon lore, but at the same time you can't call something Halo and remove everything that makes it Halo

[verbal fox]

What you must realize is the show... isn't Halo

[open herald]

Its like a cut halo legends segment

[verbal fox]

That was the most painful realization I had today

[ashen sierra]

I honestly don't see why they couldn't saying he literally just finished Infinite. But I can see him denying being part of this

[open herald]

Yeah man

The only thing extremely halo about this is keeping the actress for Cortana

[verbal fox]

Better him not being apart of this not Halo show

[alpine nexus]

Ruined the look of cortana though

[ashen sierra]

But then they completely changed Cortana's character lol

[open herald]

Hell yeah they did

[verbal fox]

Really, the non canon status is both a blessing and a curse. I am glad that this travesty isn't part of canon, but the travesty could have been averted if it were canon

[alpine nexus]

How hard is it to make blue AI cgi? Apparently too hard for paramount

[alpine nexus]

It's just an excuse to make a crap show

I have zero clue why Miranda is now a researcher

[ashen sierra]

I'm not judging it till we see her look possibly in the next episode as it could have changed due to complaints. She will still be human as they already shown whatever weird thing they’re doing, but they could change her blue design and make it more like Cortana (I'm doubtful tho)

[open herald]

Shout out to chief teaming up with Aloy from Horizon tho

[verbal fox]

Its an excuse for Hollywood to exert control without fighting Microsoft

[ashen sierra]

Well, this is probably the best live action Halo show we have currently

[alpine nexus]

It'd be way too hard to go back and change that prob. Plus that would require them listening to the fans

[verbal fox]

Its been in development hell forever, in part because Microsoft refused to give up narrative and creative control of the main canon. So the compromise was this, as Hollywood directors and writers demand freedom of control

[open herald]

I love imagining the board room

[alpine nexus]

Its the only live action Halo show we have currently. Being the best is not an achievement

[verbal fox]

Forward Unto Dawn is better

[open herald]

“What if we make her… human?” THATS GENIUS MICHAEL

[verbal fox]

Forward Unto Dawn exists

[ashen sierra]

No. It's just an overlay effect that can easily be done in post processing. They can't change any footage, so she will still be humanish

[alpine nexus]

Comforting to know Microsoft atleast put up a fight

[verbal fox]

Par for the course really... with several characters

[alpine nexus]

Movie

[ashen sierra]

Nightfall

[open herald]

“Chief likes to hide his face… what if w not only show that, but give him a snapchat premium?”

[verbal fox]

I rather watch Nightfall tbh

[open herald]

They’re really trying to be artsy and different with it

[ashen sierra]

I honestly haven't seen the Nightfall or Forward Unto Dawn, but I've heard it's terrible and based on what I've heard, I think this show will be better (again, you have to ignore all of previous lore and remember it's not canon)

[alpine nexus]

"What if we... subverted expectations?"

[verbal fox]

One review believes its because they think they could do it better...

[open herald]

The one segment of Chief in Forward Unto Dawn is already better than most of the show

SO FAR

[verbal fox]

Don't give into false hope

[alpine nexus]

Chief vs Hunter in Forward Unto Dawn was the only good part IMO, but it was exceptionally good

[verbal fox]

I already canceled my subscription

[open herald]

Im hanging in for the action scenes rn, because so far everything else has been so off

But the action in the forst episode was cool

And the elites look good

[verbal fox]

They'll show up on Youtube

[alpine nexus]

Elites look incredible. Armor looks awful

[open herald]

Lucky for me, im watching it at the family house with them so im not worried about the sub

[open herald]

Fact

[ashen sierra]

I think the story they're doing is interesting and I want to see more, but I feel this is one of those things that will easily be forgotten as it doesn't relate to anything Halo

[verbal fox]

Actually go watch Forward Unto Dawn. For a film with a low budget its quite good.

[cedar sleet]

i love how people keep uploading clips of the halo series with the show's gun sounds swapped out for the ones from the og games on yt lmao

[open herald]

Its definitely shaping up to be background noise for halo s a whole

[ashen sierra]

Also... how did this show get a TV-14 rating?

[verbal fox]

What?

TV-14?

[open herald]

The only thing i see getting me to Get me interested again is if they actually start using more influences from the games

Which u think would be obvious for them

[ashen sierra]

Yeah. I thought it would be TV-MA after the blood and gore of the first episode. Nothing much in this episode besides someone stripping, but I still think that would have pushed a more mature rating

[verbal fox]

Don't get your hopes up

The paths are quite clear from here on in

[open herald]

Im not at all lmao

How they greenlit a season 2 before the first episode aired os wild

[ashen sierra]

I also remembered that this is international lol (I think the show is ad well) so ratings are different in other countries and won't use U.S. ratings

[alpine nexus]

Kids getting vaporized is TV-14... but we can't have blood in Infinite or it will be M?

[open herald]

Remember

[ashen sierra]

They are overconfident in themselves

[verbal fox]

🇺🇲

[ashen sierra]

Lmao

[open herald]

This is nothing to do with the games

Next halo rated E baby

The whole wave of halo has all around been kind of down for me

[alpine nexus]

The one good thing this show has done is make me realize how much worse Infinite could've been

[open herald]

Infinite is cool but even then

Fact

[ashen sierra]

This is true as they films and games go through different rating systems, but I still don't see how this show got TV-14 based on what we've seen so far.
Overall I don't think it matters, just something that shocked me when the rating came up

[alpine nexus]

I hate to say it, but it might be time to move on

[open herald]

No yeah, ur right. Its weird as hell lol

[ashen sierra]

Then that will be the halo game for the next 10 years after infinite lol

[open herald]

I for the most part did. I didnt finish the campaign, and the multiplayer free to play stuff immediately turned me off of the game

[alpine nexus]

Maybe in 10 years Infinite will be a complete game

[open herald]

I wonder of that direction is part of the reason so many people left the studio

[ashen sierra]

It's just nothing there lol. Updates are so slow as well

[open herald]

Or at least a part of it

[open herald]

If halo 3 came out with sligjtly updated graphics, it would feel like an entirely new game after infinite

[ashen sierra]

I wish there was a Playlist system like Mcc as I would like to play Swat (tactical slayer) with just a br. The sidekicks and especially mangers need to be a separate option or need to go

[alpine nexus]

I was kind of excited to do my first Infinite match in a while a couple days ago, so I queued for SWAT but spawned with a sidekick... safe to say that was my last game for a while

[ashen sierra]

I haven't played the campaign yet as I'm going through all the campaigns for the first time (currently on ODST) so it'll be a while. Multiplayer is most definitely dying out though (only advantage I really see is it's the best new fps game. Vanguard was complete trash as well as Battlefield 2042

[ashen sierra]

At least it was a semi-decent weapon. I spawned in with a Mangler and got so confused

[alpine nexus]

I like the mangler, cant use the sidekick for the life of me though

[ashen sierra]

I'm the opposite lol. But even then, it just doesn't belong in swat

[alpine nexus]

I wish they would just support BF1 again. Best battlefield imo

[alpine nexus]

Controller or mouse?

[open herald]

Modern multiplayer games in general rn have just been not great

Triple A wise

[alpine nexus]

Doing better than modern singleplayer

[ashen sierra]

Controller

[ashen sierra]

Not true at all.
Elden Ring is prime example

[alpine nexus]

Makes sense, I use mouse. Mangler relies on hitting a few shots, so you kinda just aim towards them and shoot when it lines up (bad explanation), sidekick you have to keep it on their head. Controller favors keeping aim on head, mouse favors flicking

Elden ring is the outlier

[open herald]

I disagree personally. Fallen order, ghost of tsushima, spiderman, horizon, so on

Im more excited for single player releases rn than i am multiplayer

[alpine nexus]

Back in the day we had tons of Valve singleplayer games coming out that were all amazing, (cant think of anything else right now but Valve made some banger games)

[open herald]

From Software is just extremely consistent

[ashen sierra]

^ also Guardians of the Galaxy was good

[open herald]

Yupyup

The new hogwarts and lego star wars both look great

Just realized im trailing off from the series hard

[ashen sierra]

When's the new hogwarts releasing? Something this year I want to say but idk when

[ashen sierra]

Lol, we completely diverted from the TV series

[dreamy stirrup]

Stay on topic plz

[open herald]

Yeah, i dont think its specific

So anyways, series

Alright moving on to general chat

[ashen sierra]

Lmao

[ashen sierra]

Sorry, another off topic thing: but you all use 343 Guilty Spark as your role emblem...
Does that mean ||You all killed Sargeant Johnson!?|| (halo 3 spoilers)

[dreamy stirrup]

[ashen sierra]

Omg...

We're all doomed

[tall sky]

I feel like the recap scenes are so unnecessary.

[shadow inlet]

how was the 2nd ep

they show any new units yet

hunters/etc

[wild pike]

What’s y’all’s thoughts on the Halo Tv series like I need to know where we stand on this

[spice summit]

So far not impressed. But there are still 7 more episodes to go.

[wild pike]

like i just dont understand why so many things are (in my opinion) incorrect

[candid parcel]

Cheifs voice

In the game

[wild pike]

Exactly

[candid parcel]

I’m the movie

It’s just wrong you know what I’m saying?

[wild pike]

and they couldn't use camera angles like in lord of the rings to make him a hulking beast

[candid parcel]

Yeah…

[wild pike]

youre spittin bruh

[candid parcel]

Ok then

[vapid wing]

its too early to tell

we had a rough start in episode 1 but some improvements were seen in episode 2

we'll just have to see if it nosedives back down again

[wild pike]

i enjoy the visuals but the story and some details are just lacking

[spice summit]

Wait, Episode 2 was supposed to be an improvement? oof

[vapid wing]

I liked the effects better than that horrible display episode one had

[spice summit]

There are a few zoom-out scenes I liked, but for the majority it was pretty on brand with what we've come to known from this series so far

[nimble tundra]

Too many story inconsistencies and character changes to make me want to see it. If it can’t get it right from the start, I wouldn’t even bother watching it going forward

[wild pike]

I still can’t believe they messed up the HUD

[flat siren]

it looks good for me

[worthy merlin]

I would like to ask how the pelican in the show is able to travel through slipspace? From my understanding at least they were almost never armed with them (apart from when they used a slipspace drive to blow up the supercarrier in Halo reach) though I could possibly be wrong, just curious.

[tawdry kestrel]

Why have I been seeing pics of a naked lady in ep 2

Is it real?!

[spice summit]

Condors were first introduced in Halo: Nightfall. Basically the Pelican's older brother designed for long range transport and short-mid range slipspace travel. So that is still an accurate appearance.

[worthy merlin]

Oh okay, I wasn't really able tell the difference and I haven't watched NightFall 😅. Thank you for helping me understand

[spice summit]

All good! ^^

[ocean aurora]

Two episodes in and I'm still not getting a sense that the UNSC is actively at war with a terrifyingly unstoppable alien force. Covenant seem like they're... a background inconvenience compared to the Innies. Should be the other way around.

Like... there's no desperation. Characters in Fleetcom seem to just keep brushing off any mention of the Covenant.

If they even bring it up at all.

[verbal fox]

Give it up, it isn't Halo

[ocean aurora]

The only time we've seen the Covenant in action, they steamrolled a bunch of kids and disorganized rebels with lesser tech, then got wrecked themselves when the UNSC stepped in. We haven't seen them actually invade a planet or engage a (non-Spartan) military force, so the threat scaling seems off. They seem more like roving bandits at the moment.

Come in, slaughter the townsfolk, get shot by the sheriff.

[night basin]

I’ll never understand what’s the point of going so far from the source material … isn’t that what made it great in the first place ?

[burnt obsidian]

I think it's Halo

[night basin]

How can all Halo live action COMMERCIALS be 100% better than this show so far

[night basin]

Yeah that’s the name of the show …

[burnt obsidian]

probably to avoid messing up anything from the og material and give themselves more room

[burnt obsidian]

it certainly does feel like it too
there's a larger conflict at play and I like it
there's politics going all over which is what I expected
this show seems to establish an universe
and I respect that

[night basin]

A human working with the prophets … serve no purpose…just ruins a great bad guy

[night basin]

Yeah those conflicts are part of the books … the unsc did make the Spartan to fight the rebels in ok with all of that

[burnt obsidian]

why not, we already know that prophets knew that humans were supposed to be the actual heirs of forerunner stuff and be able to use the tech
now if the convernant wanna use the forerunner tech they gotta have a human
so they have one
did they go a bit too far with having a human work for them? It seems like it from here, but it seems like we might get to explore that too, so I'm willing to hear that story before dismissing it

[burnt obsidian]

well good thing they already said that it's silver timeline something something so whatever,

[tawdry kestrel]

I mean every video game show/movie has down this and it turned out to be trash.

[night basin]

Yeah, enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that… but why grab an IP with so much great story telling content and water it down and change it into so much … we who love the game wouldn’t have mind a retelling if the oh trilogy … heck even do reach and end the season with the introduction of the chief

[tawdry kestrel]

Okay so no problem then

[night basin]

I would even be ok with contact harvest as a show

[tawdry kestrel]

Ok

[night basin]

That’s what I’m sayin …

[tawdry kestrel]

I'm glad they aren't going by the games

[burnt obsidian]

yea

[night basin]

Cool , I guess you’re the broader audience they’re going for . So it’s working

[burnt obsidian]

I wanted Halo to be more than the games

[tawdry kestrel]

I Mena this has been in the works for a decade. Lol

[night basin]

You mean it’s been getting cancel for over a decade ?

Yeah that’s correct

[tawdry kestrel]

You knew what I meant, do smart talk me lol

[night basin]

There’s like a dozen books

Some are even about the games

Aren’t

[tawdry kestrel]

Ok?

[burnt obsidian]

I dont think u can judge so quickly if someone is in the broader audience or not

[night basin]

I said I guess

Meaning I’m guessing

[tawdry kestrel]

Don't generalize anything

[night basin]

I didn’t

[burnt obsidian]

seems like it

[night basin]

I guess you’re right

[ocean aurora]

I mean, at this point I personally consider Halo to be more of a series of novels than a game universe. So in my mind it already is that, and didn't need to be so heavily altered to the point of being unrecognizable.

[night basin]

Exactly

I love how they made sure to show the AR on the floor … like “hey it’s halo 👀

[tacit pollen]

Tbh.

The Prophets seem a little out of order, seems like Mercy is now the dominant one instead of Truth.

[eager lintel]

IKR, IDK either, the show might have been better had it stuck to the games more closely.

[eager lintel]

I'm not, if they went by the games maybe it might be better in some areas and if they did want to go their own way at least do it better or diverge in an interesting way.

[eager lintel]

IDK why as it started as a game series but to each their own, the games are the main source of the story and the novels enhance the universe.

[urban sparrow]

technically it started with a novel

[eager lintel]

Which only existed thanks to the games, it wasn't based on a book or anything.

It was written while the game was being made

[fluid forum]

So i did a face swap with Pablo Schreiber and Adam Sandler and the two look exactly alike

[west stump]

“Seven Crazy Rings”

Okay, c’mon, how does an April Fools fake review of a fictional MA37 look better than the AK in the halo show… https://youtu.be/r_XGEgRZsAI

I mean, sure, it’s not perfect, but you can rent a functioning blank AK for a few hundred bucks, why not do that instead of spending thousands on CGI that just doesn’t make sense

[late rock]

Not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting Series to be good but I am actually liking it so far.

[wispy vortex]

more budget per minute.

also the ads actually have to be good

[eager lintel]

You make an interesting point, the live action ads are great and the show isn't really the same to them or the same quality overall.

[livid furnace]

I've played plenty of bad games to the end just to see how the stories turn out.

I made it halfway through the latest Underworld game just to see what happened.

Even if I'm not a fan of the show, I still want to see where it goes.

[tawdry kestrel]

Is the halo show worth it?

[verbal fox]

If you never heard about Halo, sure. If you don't appreciate Halo's canon and lore, yes.

If you want to watch it, just wait till its all out in May and binge it, its not good enough for a recurring payment. Though the first episode is free on Youtube right now

[tawdry kestrel]

I appreciate halo's canon and lore and I don't know anything about the show that's why I asked lol thanks for the answer much appreciated

[wet oar]

What I don't understand about the show is how they didn't have steve dowes do chief's voice I mean like even if he wasn't in the suit it could have been his voice changed from the helmet like the mandalorian

[verbal fox]

Because the writers wanted to remove the helmet and show the face

(a decision I disagree with in the first place)

[wet oar]

But I mean Steve Dowes could've dubbed over, it's been done before
And then his voice would've been different without the giant helmet
Yeah he shouldn't have shown his face

[steep osprey]

There’s conflicting opinions. I’ve been a long time halo lore follower and I still found a way to enjoy the show. Just come in with an open mind. But, everyone is different. Like he said, first episode is free on YouTube so doesn’t hurt to try it out and see yourself if you like it or now

[wet oar]

But I get it how they were trying to make something totally seperate from the games, they wanted to build a different universe

[verbal fox]

Paramount's Director and Writers. That's all I got for an answer

[wet oar]

yeah

[tawdry kestrel]

I will try it out thank you

[tawdry kestrel]

halo ce had a better face reveal

[dark storm]

Holy crap next episode looks awesome

Seeing those elites

[dark storm]

That's BS I've read every single book and I'm enjoying the series, this whole "if you like the canon you don't like the show" mentality is crap. It's fine not to like it but don't lump all long time fans into your boat

[wild pike]

If you’re talking bout like episode 2, the vehicle chief and kwan travel in is called a condor.

[verbal fox]

Here's the thing, I specifically did not say that. I said the opposite. Yes, it implies what you claim I said but it doesn't actually claim it outright, because I know there are those who, for one reason or another, enjoy the show and lore.

Its nuance and operating in a grey area, allowing me to make substantial statements without lumping all Halo fans together.

[dark storm]

That's fair enough

[dark storm]

Super condor apparently haha

[lusty kindle]

I enjoy the show. throwing my two cents in

[lost geyser]

Anyone know if halo the series is available in UK?....

[timid ether]

afaik not yet but will come later this year when paramount+ gets implemented in sky (if it isnt already)

[ocean aurora]

It's a PB&J at a Michelin star restaurant. It's alright and it's food, but it's not what most people walked into the restaurant for...

[urban sparrow]

I always order PB&Js at Michelin star restaurants

[lost geyser]

Paramount+ isent on sky no but Netflix is so hopefully it will be soon!.. 😎👍

[iron hearth]

Does anyone else really not enjoy the first person scenes in the show? Did they really have to include those? I was very excited to watch the series since there is so much back story in Halo that can't be expressed well in first person shooter moments in the game, so I wanted to watch the series to get a better understanding of the Halos, Covenant, Cortana.. all that. And instead after watching a bunch of teens do space drugs I get corny first person shooter scenes that makes me feel like I'm watching a twitch stream. I was so disappointed. Who is the target audience for this show? Children? Like how Pokémon kept re-enforcing how their game mechanics worked in every TV show. Is the Halo Paramount show really going to be that tied into literally Halo Infinite? Like down to what you see first person? Are you ******* serious.

[urban sparrow]

I mean, it's just a reference to the games lol

it's not like they go on for minutes at a time, at the most it's like two 10 second clips if that, probably like 3 seconds

I personally don't see anything wrong with showing the viewpoint of what the Spartans see.

[earnest fulcrum]

Those first person scenes are Smosh Halo in real life 2 tier

[floral ravine]

Nah, fan made projects have done a better job than this dumpster fire

[spiral bobcat]

Couldn't agree more. The Halo Show isn't as good as I thought it would be, better lower my expectations next time. But hey, at least halo infinite is good.

[hasty sedge]

Not particularly

[livid furnace]

I'll see the story through

I'm not thrilled but I want to see how it turns out

[verbal fox]

Halo Infinite is good, its a strong foundation. It just lacks more stuff

That can be remedied with time

A bad foundation cannot

[upbeat sinew]

It boggles my mind how this script of the halo show is the one that got approved

[real scarab]

Yet all the previous shows were canceled

[hasty sedge]

Kinda makes me wonder how the others compared

[verbal fox]

Something tells me the others weren't alternate timelines and people couldn't agree on things

[hasty sedge]

Likely, curious now with the introduction of this series, if those "fractures" timelines are gonna be a more realized thing. Kinda hope not

[livid furnace]

It seems like they're internally established

But not to the point where we can see it yet ourselves

I am thinking Halo is just a straight up multi verse now

Just seems like all these worlds are not in contact with one another

[real scarab]

Sad that they don’t cross market and have series packs for Infinite

[livid furnace]

That's what I dont understand

MkVII needs love too

[little anvil]

We're only in Season 1. I will be VERY surprised if we dont see a Silver fractures pack at some point.

MAYBE Season 3?

[rapid pollen]

Personally I think this show would’ve been -chefs kiss- if the protagonist wasn’t chief and instead the show revolved more around the extended Halo universe. Making a “silver” timeline and skewing perceptions of chief is not the way imo

Too late now though

Regardless I hope these following episodes clear things up.

[little anvil]

One step at a time.

[rocky sable]

When does each episode release?

[verbal fox]

Thursdays 3 AM EST

[tawdry kestrel]

Are trailers count as spoilers or no

[verbal fox]

Debatable

But safer to say yes

[wraith socket]

Band of Brothers with UNSC marines and Spartans showing up rarely would've been a winning formula, instead we got CW level drama and acting lol

[idle pawn]

Spoken like someone who has not watched CW shows

[wraith socket]

Er, how? I've watched Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and all of Supernatural. Why the hell would you even say something like that lol, what makes you think I haven't?

Oh, and The 100

[idle pawn]

Because the show isn't comparable to those lol.

[wraith socket]

Except it objectively is, in so many different ways lol. The melodrama in how it's acted is extremely CW, the set pieces in the second episode looked like they were pulled from The 100 directly, even up to the way that it's shot and framed feels very cable TV

Content like that obviously has it's place, but is it right for Halo? Definitely not

[real scarab]

I watched S1 of The 100. None of the other shows tho

[hexed peak]

I definitely believe it has CW level drama

[verbal fox]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/03/31/halo-tv-helmet-paramount-plus/

It got worse, Washington Post is the gift that keeps giving

[wraith socket]

Dear god, reading this makes the guy out to be a complete bloody tool. Take this little tidbit: "In the game there’s no fixture that holds the gun on the back. You just put it there, and it stays there. They never actually had to design how the gun holds on to the back of the armor. That piece of technology just doesn’t exist. It’s never even been thought about."

Uh...why is it so difficult for him to imagine it's effing magnetic?

[verbal fox]

It gets worse. SOOO much worse. He has second thoughts about the Helmet reveal, and he confirms strongly his main goal was to appease a broader audience

[wraith socket]

LOL the next question, In the game, it's super cool. ZOOM! And it stays there. But you actually try to put an AR rifle into the perfect slot behind your back, where you can't see, while you're running and being shot at by aliens. Not gonna happen." WHY CAN'T THIS MAN UNDERSTAND MAGNETS?!

This guy's a director, he's supposed to have a good imagination, but he doesn't effing understand magnets. Like it's beyond his capacity for imagination

I'm so frustrated right now lol

[verbal fox]

Spread the article far and wide

The truth shall set ye free

[wraith socket]

Just finished it. The fact that he now isn't even confident in his own work with the face reveal tells you a lot

LOL OH MY GOD, I looked up his IMDB. Dude's done practically nothing before, just a few TV episodes and that god awful Robin Hood movie from a few years ago

No bloody wonder 😂

[verbal fox]

Welcome to hell, population, the Halo Fandom

[livid furnace]

Wait, what?

I think it's natural to think it's magnetic

The shot with the pistol coming off the thigh seemed like they got the idea

[wraith socket]

Natural assumptions are extremely unnatural to these kind of people, evidently

[livid furnace]

Believe it or not I want to try to like this

It's clear from this point out we are straying and just not going back.

I got that in Ep 1, but it's on full display in Ep 2

[little anvil]

I mean we knew that we would be when we started

[livid furnace]

The Rubble itself is a paradox.

It technically shouldn't exist, but it does.

Not just the crashing into Metisette

But the fact that refugees from Madrigal built it.

[wraith socket]

If it was just some new sci-fi thing, it might work. But just to think, after all the hundreds of scripts that were turned in over the years for Halo, all the people who were attached and wanted to work on it - Peter Jackson and Neil Blomkamp for crying out loud - this is what we get? It's just bloody depressing, really

[livid furnace]

Peter Jackson Halo.

Man this was when LotR was still the new hotness.

Not too long after Return of the King

[wraith socket]

A Peter Jackson directed Halo with WETA Digital's effects studio behind it is a fan's wet dream, and it definitely would've appealed to that "wider audience" they so desperately want too. But instead they made something that honestly, I don't understand who it appeals to. It isn't fans, that's for sure. I know people who haven't played the games and watched it and thought it was boring as hell. Who is this crap for?!

[livid furnace]

LotR somehow did it.

Attracted a wide audience while being as close to the books as you could get.

The Aragorn reveal scene in the Prancing Pony was almost exactly like the passage in the book.

Somehow he did it.

I think Jackson would have made a killer Fall of Reach movie. He was still hot.

[wraith socket]

Right?! That's what I don't understand, the blueprint is staring everybody in the face. Every adaptation from an original property that strays too far from the source material has ended up failing miserably. LotR was extremely faithful, and it's like the most beloved trilogy of all time. Why is it so hard for people to put two and two together?

[livid furnace]

It's an issue I had with some of the Harry Potter movies growing up when I was a kid.

I liked the first couple of movies just fine but as soon as Goblet came out I noticed things were different.

It was an alright movie but you could tell the details were wrong.

Same general pace and outcome, but different in-betweens.

[wraith socket]

To be fair, Goblet is like an almost 900 page book that they had to cut down into a two hour and twenty minute movie. I get most of the concessions they made there

[livid furnace]

734 in the US version. Wow.

I don't remember it being that long.

[wraith socket]

It was the longest book I'd read at the time as a kid, I thought it was longer haha

[livid furnace]

398 for Fellowship

To be fair, Tolkein only wrote dialogue and character interaction where it mattered

The rest was practically made for helicopter shots

So I guess even that was faithful.

HP is interaction, interaction, interaction.

Hagrid with landing lights? Eh, not sure that was in the book.

[wraith socket]

Well, helicopter shots and extremely detailed fantasy architecture. Like the statues on the river Anduin. People give Tolkien a lot of crap about supposedly being over-descriptive, but I've always appreciated it

HP strayed a fair bit from the books, but it was extremely faithful overall. Same with V for Vendetta as another example which was quite successful

Watchmen was literally frame for frame just the comic book panels, and I personally adored that about it. It literally brought the novel to life

[little anvil]

As opposed to, say, Mortal Engines, which was supposedly made by Jackson uuuuutttt

Exact recreations can happen, I think it just takes the right kind of director/the right amount of oversight and willingness to work with people.

As much as I hate to say it I really dont think a direct 1-to-1 rendition of some of the Halo books would grab attention that well since...well...no ones read the darn books.
It would make the lore fans happy but thats about it. Johnny Controlerhands whos only played since like Halo 4 and never touched a book wont care.

[wraith socket]

I think it's fine to stray a little from the source when you're making an adaptation, concessions will almost always need to be made. But in the case of Halo, I don't think they understand the source material at all - Master Chief most of all. Face reveal in episode 1, and then almost the entirety of episode 2 he's not wearing his helmet? I'm sorry, but that just isn't Chief, and doesn't feel like Halo

[little anvil]

Watchmen worked because the story is just GOOD.
As many Alan Moore things are (see V)

I think they took the helmet off intentionally to let Pablo show his acting.
Harder to emote with a helmet on, I guess?
I dunno. Doesnt really bother me and Pablos a good enough actor that I dont care if he has it on or not

[wraith socket]

Pablo's a good actor, he sure as hell isn't in this though lol. I blame the directors though

Loved him in American Gods

[little anvil]

It could be worse.

[wraith socket]

I'd bet my life savings it's going to get worse haha

[little anvil]

I get the feeling this show hit the same wall MOretal Engines did.

Whatever that wall was that prompted them to produce something so completely off the scale of teh books and ALMOST A DECADE AFTER THE BOOK CAME OUT

Yes Im still sour about that

[wraith socket]

Some of the changes they made are so obviously and intrusively politically motivated too. Like, Captain Keyes. Goes from a short, gruff old white guy in the games to an overweight, tall black man in the show. I mean, why? I had to rewind in episode 2 when they showed and named him 'cause I honestly just didn't believe it haha

[open herald]

Big news

CBS is big mad

[wraith socket]

About what? It's not like they had any respect for franchises before this - just look at what they've done to Star Trek

[livid furnace]

Jackson went one step further by adding the quarries on either side of the Argonath.

Like he even explained "well how did the stones get there?"

Dude was thorough and had a great team

[wraith socket]

That's what happens when someone adapts something that they love and have respect for

[open herald]

Cbs mad at angryjoe, and blocked this man worldwide

[livid furnace]

Joe got it back.

I'm not a huge fan of his, but eh a review is a review

[open herald]

They’re funny

[livid furnace]

I think he should have his say

[open herald]

Fosho

[little anvil]

Fair right if nothing else yeh?

[livid furnace]

I think so

[wraith socket]

He didn't get it back, he had to reupload

[livid furnace]

Oh? I heard he did. Whatever though.

[wraith socket]

Are they really surprised that a gaming channel who has a history with the Halo games is rating the show so poorly? Did they not fully understand this would happen?

[open herald]

Shouldnt be too big of a loss, missing on CBS is how i spend most of my TV time

[livid furnace]

Don't think it happened to the first episode.

From what I understand.

Certain other Halo related Discords are taking the other side of the issue.

And that's fine, but I think a review is a review.

[wraith socket]

He addressed that in the reupload, watching now. He mentioned that he had clips as long as 14 seconds in the first episode review, they didn't care because it was positive. It's crystal clear that they blocked the episode 2 review purely because it's negative

[open herald]

That is hilarious

[wraith socket]

They can't even make up a different narrative; it was a manual strike haha. Someone at CBS went in and did it themselves

[open herald]

It’s probably because they spent so much money it, they NEED to get it back

So they need as much of a positive rep as they can get

[little anvil]

Ahh, large capitalist drive...

[open herald]

They really dropped 90 mil on it just to be like “we’re gonna change everything”

Taken liberties

They really gotta drop bangers in the next coming episodes

[livid furnace]

Well it's clear we have more action scenes coming up

[wraith socket]

We know that's not gonna happen lol

[livid furnace]

The Hunter worms probably will be my favorite sequence if it's done right

[open herald]

We decided to make the hunters small 😎

[little anvil]

Technically, thats their base form.

[open herald]

Nah but if they add jackals, grunts, and hunters, thats big

[little anvil]

The Mgalekgolo we encounter int he games are a rare, "forced" form that the Covenant cultivated for combat roles.

[wraith socket]

The hunters aren't worms anymore, actually. They're mechanical robots. Remember The Matrix? Think those. /s

[open herald]

Im an accidental lore genius

[open herald]

THATS BIIIG

[livid furnace]

That sequence when Human Pet goes nuts could probably pay off big. I could see myself liking that

We already know they're going the extra mile with the violence.

[wraith socket]

Oh dude, people already called it, and I'm inclined to agree because everything else has been so relentlessly stupid so far

My money is on her being Chief's sister lol

[livid furnace]

I wish I could type something of more substance here but I hope not.

Chosen one plots are hard to do right

And Chief is striking me as 'Chosen One' so far, as not even other Spartans can activate Forerunner relics.

[wraith socket]

Yep, that's very much what they appear to be going for

[open herald]

Chief is the last air bender 😤

[wraith socket]

His real name is John Skywalker, and he's going to bring balance to the force

[open herald]

Its about darn time. Only he can defeat the empress

The Prophet of Snoke is a mere puppet in disguise

[quartz heron]

Do yall think that because John is the reclaimer, and as far I think I know, obtains a unique geas, planted in humans to cause his eventual existence by Forerunners, (and only he would obtain this program) that it would suggest that Chief is literally the Chosen One in essence for that reason? After all his geas is the reason for his ability to understand alien tech, and also suggests his similarity to the Iso-Didact,......

Also Cortana in essense of Halsey, is the librarian by design of geas imprint I believe, causing her to be led to him to begin with,

Which would also go to suggest the apparent unspoken love attraction between Chief and Cortana, as they are literal geas imprints of the Iso-Didact and the librarian, whom were also in love

[wintry pelican]

They are not.

And imprints were only every same species

[cursive junco]

Why does the show look so good and bad at times hhhhh

[nimble rune]

okay so this show has just gone full generic sci fi

ep 2 is losing me very quick

[dusty sun]

smh stalwart dawn is a stalwart class frigate not a paris class heavy frigate

also unsc destroyer’s arnt rated for in atmosphere

[peak vigil]

ok episode 2 is significantly better than ep 1 imo

[wraith socket]

I was reading an interview earlier, apparently they had 13 different studios doing VFX for the show. 13. That's why nothing looks consistent lol

[cursive junco]

Fair

[kind hull]

I gotta be honest: I’m not really enjoying this

[gray phoenix]

Oh nah bro

That can't be fr

[wraith socket]

Man, everything else about the show is running by stupid as hell, cable TV drama rules. It just makes the most sense

[dusty sun]

why is every character black

[wraith socket]

What do you mean? Captain Keyes was always a tall, overweight black man

[dusty sun]

Doyee of courae miranda was always a scientist

totally not a commander of a warship

[hexed peak]

Man, I can’t believe there’s gonna be a 2nd season of the show. They signed it before they releasted s1e1

It really is a CW show

[wraith socket]

I mean, duh. Women work with books, they could never be written to be powerful leaders in command of a warship /s

[earnest fulcrum]

good god dont remind me 💀

[hexed peak]

I saw Batwoman 🗿

Funny, but for all the wrong reasons

[dense pelican]

I'm John Halo

[dense pelican]

Alien Pfps

👽 🤝 👽

[gaunt harbor]

Why does it matter

[hexed peak]

Alien Pfps

👽🤝👽

[wraith socket]

I rewatched the Halo 3 and ODST adverts earlier today. Insane how Bungie managed to produce better content in commercials for a game that run maybe 15 minutes when you put them all together than 2 hours of a $90mn show so far

[hexed peak]

In all fairness, though, adverts usually have a high budget for the small time they have to record

[earnest fulcrum]

I remember when John Halo seemed like a pretty cool guy and wasn't afraid of anything and shot aliens

[dusty sun]

halo 5 story is slightly easier to understand than this

i mean atleast it had some characters we knew

[wraith socket]

It's not even about the budget; the tone of it all was gritty as hell. I mean, it's about a war with aliens that we're losing. All of those commercials got it right. The show sure as hell hasn't, at least not yet, and I don't think they will

[rapid pollen]

Show that takes place prior to the fall of reach “ITS NOT AHOWINT US LOSING”

[earnest fulcrum]

realistically speaking would glocks and m4's still be around in the 26th century

[hexed peak]

I think the start of the show showcased that pretty well.

[earnest fulcrum]

im not complaining about the AK because those would be considered ancient weapons and those actually stand the test of time

but in 500 years i think they'd have magnums and sidekicks all over the place

[dusty sun]

they shouldve had pete stacker (captain keyes voice actor) actually playing captain keyes in the show

[hexed peak]

Oof, gotta be careful with word sensors. I had my fair share of those bots, too

[wraith socket]

I mean, not really. Seeing a bunch of space pirates get their butts handed to them by aliens makes sense, you wouldn't expect anything otherwise. Seeing it happen to the UNSC on the other hand, trained and well equipped soldiers, that would've ran it home.

Except they didn't do that. It was space pirates, then Spartans come in and save the day.

They haven't established any stakes whatsoever for the UNSC visually, it's all just exposition.

[earnest fulcrum]

(also showing elites right from the start)

[hexed peak]

I guess in the larger scale of things, that makes sense.

[earnest fulcrum]

wouldn't it make more sense if the elites were accompanied with some grunts

[wraith socket]

Or jackals. Yeah

[earnest fulcrum]

didn't the covenant have a structure or something
like how the patrols in new mombasa in odst were usually 3 grunts and 1 brute?

[hexed peak]

Yeah.
But I guess they wanted to showcase the covenant as scary for a first impression.

[earnest fulcrum]

not a single grunt shown

[hexed peak]

That’s why miniguns only deal damage to the elites once John Halo picks it up

[wraith socket]

If they wanted to show that the covenant were scary, they should've killed one of Silver Team right off the bat. Instead, apparently Spartans are invulnerable - when in reality, they don't last all that long

Even that would've set up the stakes better

Instead, in the show they've basically established the UNSC and Spartans as totally invulnerable. Saying otherwise, but we haven't actually seen the UNSC losing at all

That's just objectively bad storytelling tbh

[hexed peak]

If they’re Spartan 2’s, then I can see them all be lethal killing machines

[wraith socket]

Sure, but Spartan 2's were dying all the time, too

They seriously should've killed off one of Silver right in that first fight, with the energy sword guy

[hexed peak]

I guess I’m neutral on the idea

[raw atlas]

Just finished watching the first episode on YouTube. I liked it

[bleak wraith]

Start your morning with a tasty bowl of nuts, bolts and microchips

[livid furnace]

Honestly there are only so many ways you can make a gun mechanically speaking. I think that with the size of Human space on how many hundreds of worlds, and companies on them, that it's not impossible that some weapons may seem to appear as or may be based on the principles of weapons like the Glock or AK. The Sidekick is a striker-fired pistol similar to a Glock.

It's a big galaxy. Sometimes things end up out there. However I expected more up to date weapons to be scattered around, or modern scopes or stocks on the weapons.

We still use the tilting block method for pistols and that was invented by John M. Browning. Heck, we still use his M2 design. That thing has seen two world wars. It's older than our grandfathers

[earnest fulcrum]

bruh i just realised master chef here looks like daddy noel 💀

[tawdry kestrel]

I can't handle master chief being pornstache

https://c.tenor.com/sEULumBtFaMAAAAM/oitnb-netflix.gif

[tawdry kestrel]

https://youtu.be/0Lnq6eOjS8c

[little anvil]

I would not even be surprised if there are M2s in UNSC service somewhere. Updated, perhaps, but at their core, still the Ma Duce

Actually isnt that what the M41 fires? 12.7x99mm BMG?

YEP! .50 BMG!

[little anvil]

Technically the time between Spartan deaths was usually measured in years. Most casualties occured closer to the end of the war, especially during the Fall of Reach.
One or two here and there (Daisy for example, or Solomon and Arthur) but for the most part the Spartans stayed alive and active rather well.
Of course that has to do with their mission type, but said mission type is exactly what we see in the show; small unit shock attack and infiltration.

[formal tartan]

How do you react to chief taking off his helmet

[rose galleon]

It was underwhelming

[alpine nexus]

I think the feeling we got when Chief put his helmet on towards the end of episode 2 was what the writers though viewers would feel when he took it off

[frank yarrow]

i feel like they way the reveled it was fine, but they overdid it. like i don’t understand how he benefited from walking around a lawless jail with crazy people without protection. that’s just stupid

[wild pike]

scream in horror with your buddy who you played all of the campaigns with

[midnight sequoia]

When Kwan asks the chief what he likes, referring to food, and he says "... Nuts"

Then pauses

I legit thought that's where he was gonna leave it lmao

Master Chief, mind telling me what you're doing on that ship? Sir, eating nuts.

[supple scroll]

number rating outta 100, what do yall give it so far

[wild pike]

25

[alpine nexus]

40

[hasty sedge]

10

[alpine nexus]

Having an entire episode of filler as the second episode probably brings me down to a 20 though honestly

[wild pike]

for real tho

[supple scroll]

these numbers seem promising 🥶 I'll just skip this show

[timid ether]

70

[alpine nexus]

If you have a means of watching it that doesn't cost you any extra money, you might as well try it. It's a somewhat enjoyable experience

Pointing out how bad it is can also be quite entertaining

[timid ether]

1st episode is free on YouTube on the Paramount channel. Just make up your own mind. Def doesn't hurt to check it out

[idle pawn]

75

[wild pike]

I just have no idea who they’re making this show for because if you have no idea what halo is it’s just confusing. And the show doesn’t follow much of what the games have already set up

[timid ether]

Again. They never wanted to follow the games and shouldn't. It's a own separate universe that makes it's own lore. The main influence are the books.

[hasty sedge]

Is it really? Only thing it really shares is plasma effects and a few loose plot ideas taken from lore

[midnight sequoia]

What? The books follow the game lore.

[timid ether]

Yes. That's called taken inspiration. They are not re-creating the books.
Characters, world, things inside the universe, places, planets and designs. Taken inspiration from the existing book lore. And doing their own thing from that

[wild pike]

“Based off the video game”

It literally says it in the intro

[timid ether]

That's why the first book came out 1 month before the first game. I see

[midnight sequoia]

Have you read the books?

[timid ether]

Oh yeah and surely the Spartans run as fast in the games as they do in the books since the books are based on the games in your mind

[midnight sequoia]

So, no?

[timid ether]

The book complement the games

[midnight sequoia]

Right

There are no discrepancies

Save for the spartan iii retcon

[verbal fox]

Do not equate game play balancing with lore content. That's a strawman argument

[verbal fox]

Taking inspiration from is a nice way of saying picking and chosing what they, the writers and director, thought was cool to make their own narrative and story, not a Halo Story.

[timid ether]

Okay then if the books are the same as the games. Then reach is the same as fall off reach? Right

[wild pike]

I mean it just feels like they didn’t play the games at all

[midnight sequoia]

Yes

There are minor differences in the timeline of events but the same events happen

The covenant is not being led by a 14 year-old human girl

[verbal fox]

Again, stop making strawmans. Just because Bungie couldn't keep consistencies in lore and 343 had to fix it later doesn't mean nothing in core canon is connected and that every media is separate from each other.

[midnight sequoia]

The differences between the books and the games are so miniscule, and they're just mistakes

The show upends everything on purpose

[verbal fox]

They are made to complement one another. The Fall of Reach had the Xbox symbol on its cover when released.

[midnight sequoia]

Right

IMO, if the show runners thought it was important for the team to have creative freedom and expression, they should have made their own IP

Not saying it's a bad show, I think it's actually a lot better than people say

[verbal fox]

If you are accepting of a fanfiction being a new multimillion dollar canon...

[midnight sequoia]

Not so much

But I'll take it I guess

[verbal fox]

We waited 10+ years... for this

[midnight sequoia]

It does feel like something pulled from archive of our own lmao

[verbal fox]

They could have done 2 twenty minute live action shorts of Chief killing aliens with little context, and you'd have fans clambering over one another for more

[midnight sequoia]

Like forward unto dawn?

[verbal fox]

FUD was good, but I was thinking more like Halo Landfall or the ODST Trailer

[midnight sequoia]

Definitely

I'd have loved that

Just an odst show would have been great

[verbal fox]

Then you build short bits of story around the action. You DON'T build action around the story.

John Wick Halo edition

[midnight sequoia]

When I said I don't think the show is as bad as people say, again, what I meant was it's not a bad show. It's just a bad halo show.

[verbal fox]

Yeah, I've said before, if Halo didn't exist, this show would be great.

[midnight sequoia]

It's not like the book of Boba Fett 1-5, which is a bad show

[verbal fox]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The amount of times characters straight up say "I don't Know"...

[verbal fox]

Book of Boba Fett was bad because people knew there was better within Star Wars. Book of Boba would be great if Star Wars didn't exist...

[midnight sequoia]

No no that's what I'm saying, it wouldn't

Chapters 6 and 7 were great but they were just the Mandalorian season 2.5

The other episodes all had bad storytelling and cringe direction choices

[whole garden]

man...

This show... I really wanna give it a chance

[open herald]

I feel

I want so much to be excited for the next episode but i feel like im trying to get past fillers to get to the good parts

[verbal fox]

Just wait till it all comes out. You'll save money

[open herald]

Im already saving money. Im not watching through my own subscription

Big brain move

[dapper condor]

I am pretty frustrated with the show… don’t get me wrong it’s alright and I’m happy it’s got people watching but it feels a little disheartening to see so much of the original lore changed…at least that’s my thought 😐

[dapper condor]

It’s in the game?

[acoustic notch]

Hi

[north coral]

i just finish waching episdo 1 cool

[prisma bronze]

I refuse to watch the show. Master chief doesnt act like master chief. They race changed multiple characters for woke points. Its just not halo.

[glacial widget]

I like it

[lime gust]

The Halo Series is so bad omg

It might get better but i doubt it

[glacial widget]

Firstly I am not a fan of race changes when they make no sense(vikings Valhalla for instance) but this is a petty argument halo has never been about anything other than humans versus the covenant it’s actually a bit silly to care about the colour of people’s skin

The entire arc of the second game is that it doesn’t matter if you are human or sanghelil and they come together to fight the actual bad guys

It’s not the games but if your a halo fan you have played the games 100 time

[lime gust]

The Poltical stuff is not good

[glacial widget]

Look it’s not great

Elites do not look great

[lime gust]

And i'm not expecting it to be

[glacial widget]

But most stuff looks pretty good

[lime gust]

It looks fine ig

[prisma bronze]

In that case why dont they actually be creative and make new likeable characters. I just want identity politics faaaar from halo. I agree with your sentiment, color doesnt matter. I just dont want already established characters being changed because theyre too lazy to make good new characters.

[glacial widget]

And they have got the little stuff for fans like the shield sounds and the WoRT WOrt

[lime gust]

Master Chief literally removing his helmet in the FIRST EPISODE is a big no no from me

[glacial widget]

You clearly don’t know what identity politics means

[fiery sage]

it just Judge Dredd 1995 all over again

[lime gust]

It should be like from what i've been hearing about Acrane

Great for fans and newcomers

[glacial widget]

There is no mention of Keynes being black in the show or the trouble she has had in her life because of the colour of her skin

[lime gust]

but nah, screw the fans we need it to be about the real world and IT'S issues

[glacial widget]

I’ve watched the first episode only tbf but no clue where you got this from

Where do they talk about modern political issues

[fiery sage]

i realized Halo TV and Judge Dredd 1995 has common: both main protagonists got arrested by the organization they worked for because.... reasons

[lime gust]

I see why it was in development hell for that long

[fiery sage]

and that how Dredd himself never put his helmet on again

[glacial widget]

Arcane has tons of identity politics and is a show the very explicitly explores modern social issues

[lime gust]

But it works

cause it's a well written series from what i heard

[glacial widget]

Halo has no identity politics and explores no modern social issues

At least in the first episode

[lime gust]

It just feels woke and doesn't work for me

[glacial widget]

The rebels are literally ripped strait from the lore

[fiery sage]

it has unnecessary nudity though

[glacial widget]

Where?

[fiery sage]

it feels like catering to Game of Thrones fans

[lime gust]

if you like it, that's fine but idk man it feels half baked

Like why do we need to focus on people taking space drugs

[glacial widget]

Haven’t seen that yet

Stop SPOILING

[fiery sage]

okay

[lime gust]

That's in the first episode

[glacial widget]

When chief is messing stuff up man I just get giddy. The pelicans taking off and the Spartans suiting up. Giddy. Only thing that would make it better is Jonson shouting at the marines

He does feel like chief tho

[lime gust]

Nah man

unless it's Halo 4 onwards you think is Chief

Which is fine if that's the direction they want to take his character in

It does not work for this series though

[glacial widget]

You do realise that as mediums change characters have to change with them

[lime gust]

Yes, but the change doesn't work

[glacial widget]

Yes it does

[lime gust]

Sonic in the Movie Universe works because he's still a good character and close to the games

Master Chief is barely recognisable

[spice summit]

Then again Arcane was made by people care deeply about the source material they had to work with and actually had passion for it to prosper. This feels like a cashgrab because it can be sold as “Halo” because Master Chief is in it

[glacial widget]

Ummmm you either haven’t watched arcane or don’t know the source material because they massively retconned multiple characters story’s

The story told has absolutely nothing to do with leagues lore

VI and Jinx weren’t even originally sisters

Silco doesn’t exist, singed is completely different victor and jayce are both completely different

[spice summit]

I have played League since S2 and watched all of Arcane. Riot has been working on “polishing” characters left right and center to make them fit in with modern times. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t

[glacial widget]

And I wouldn’t compare the two shows because arcane is amazing and this show is just good

[spice summit]

In Halo’s case: they killed the personality of a good few characters (imo) after watching both episodes

[glacial widget]

And most of what I find good is purely nostalgia

[spice summit]

This show is average. Arcane was brilliant. That’s my take

Only way I can describe this to people is “an average sci-fi flik”

[glacial widget]

But also my point was that to say this show neither has identity politics or focuses on modern social issues

[spice summit]

Have fun with E2, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it

[glacial widget]

I’m just starting

[spice summit]

Arcane set the stage proper and the atmosphere between zaun and piltover was well put together. Something this show is lacking

That’s all I have to say about it

[glacial widget]

And having identity politics and talking about modern social issues doesn’t make a show bad if it’s done well. Eg arcane, Star Trek, doctor who(pre 12) ect

[glacial widget]

I’m once again not comparing the shows because they are completely different

[spice summit]

Its live action vs animation and both games are astronomically far apart from each other

But the people working on each IP can be compared

You don’t leave props in the full release that you forgot to use cgi on, that’s just lousy work

[glacial widget]

I agree

Once again I’m not saying it’s show of the year

[spice summit]

“I don’t know” is something you don’t use in your script. Maybe once, but not 10+ times. That’s just lousy writing

[glacial widget]

I’m just saying it good and I enjoy it and a lot of the criticism about it is actually people getting there knickers in a twist and massively over reacting

[spice summit]

I have watched both episodes and I just can’t enjoy it, which sucks. There is just too much non-halo about it to watch it for. I’ve been cautiously optimistic, but that optimism is fading rapidly

[glacial widget]

Ah that’s the problem you came in with optimism. I did Not

[grim bone]

Probably because you aren’t a halo fan who has been waiting years for a show. If you could step into that mindset for a minute maybe you could understand why people don’t like it.

[glacial widget]

I came in with pessimism and disappointment and found parts that got the part of my brain that releases chemicals when I see something nostalgic to do their job

[grim bone]

I don’t know any Halo fan who asked for a non canon show. Do you???

[glacial widget]

See now you just sound spoilt

[spice summit]

Well I’ve been waiting for a proper halo tv series for years. I liked Halo Infinite’s campaign so thought “I’ll give 343i the benefit of the doubt for 1 last time”

[grim bone]

I sound spoiled for wanting a show that goes with the current canon??