#halo-the-series-chat

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blazing notch
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I did find that a little weird lol

wraith socket
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I've read fan fiction that was better than the script they used

timid ether
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How can they break canon when they have their own canon?

blazing notch
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Like this is at the beginning of the covenant invasion so technically Chief shouldn't be here at this point

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rotund hamlet
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You’re going to immediately discard the tonal, thematic, and progression faithfulness of the show over small changes that mainstream audiences won’t complain about. Got it.

fresh fog
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woops caps

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timid ether
rotund hamlet
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blazing notch
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Thing is that the lore is pretty straight forward and exciting as is. Why change it to something new for people who don't really care?

timid ether
fresh fog
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Even though they would've had a way easier time and a way easier path to success if they made an actual canon live action film and none of the fan fiction bs

blazing notch
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Like going this route for the show is a kick in the balls to fans who were here already

fresh fog
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I'll say it again, their main target audience should've been the fans of the Halo franchise

timid ether
rotund hamlet
timid ether
gaunt harbor
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I was a fan before and I could care less about the alternate timeline thing

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It really doesn’t make me mad

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rotund hamlet
timid ether
gaunt harbor
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Not to mention, all this time and a TV show finally comes out, and there's no cross-promotion with the new game that came out a few months ago? What the actual hell is going on at 343 and Microsoft? It's like they genuinely have no bloody idea what they're doing

timid ether
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Yeah the missed cross promotion is really..urgh why

rotund hamlet
timid ether
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Could have done so much with that

timid ether
rotund hamlet
blazing notch
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It sounds like you're just disagreeing to disagree at this point 😂

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fresh fog
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and out of every director out there thy chose to go with a director that has little to no experience

wraith socket
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The biggest name in the show is Pablo Schreiber, and he's a D-list actor at best lol. He was good in American Gods, but that's like the only thing he's really been in aside from this

gaunt harbor
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TV shows don’t need big actors from overrated shows

blazing notch
rotund hamlet
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blazing notch
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It has to be from the way they stare, the way they speak, they walk, etc

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blazing notch
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John-117 isn't just a pickup and play kind of role. It's unique and should be treated as so

gaunt harbor
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It’s not that unique of a role

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Deep voice guy who follows orders and sometimes does other things

blazing notch
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It actually is.

rotund hamlet
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It would be like if DC comics shoved in the Henry Cavil superman right in the middle of a mainline Superman book’s story arc to promote Man of Steel when anything Superman related on the screen would already be eaten up regardless.

blazing notch
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To Halo fans he's more than just a killer in a green suit of armor

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He's more than that

gaunt harbor
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He has good character development from 4-infinite but otherwise is pretty bland

fresh fog
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Still think they should've gotten Downes to dub the voice

wraith socket
# gaunt harbor Deep voice guy who follows orders and sometimes does other things

Being able to sell your delivery with a helmet on is a lot more difficult than anyone would give credit for, after how well it was done in The Mandalorian. Which also makes you wonder why the actual hell they did the face reveal in the first episode, and as cringey as they did it. The Mandalorian proved that you can have an engaging character drama without having to remove the helmet.

blazing notch
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He's supposed to be. He's not supposed to be talkative at all but when he does speak it has to mean something

blazing notch
gaunt harbor
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Canonically unshielded mjolnir deflects bullets easily

rotund hamlet
blazing notch
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It wasn't no puny AK-47

gaunt harbor
blazing notch
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Nothing in this show is lore accurate

gaunt harbor
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Mjolnir is titanium

timid ether
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To bed fair, the thing the show does good is separate the "lore" fans from the Lore fans.

rotund hamlet
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fresh fog
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We only knew words describing it, stop saying that we knew what it looked like, we only saw his eyes in Halo 4, his full face has never been physically shown

blazing notch
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The show just needs to be consistent enough

gaunt harbor
blazing notch
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If you're gonna make some changes at least don't change everything

rotund hamlet
gaunt harbor
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His face isn’t much of a mystery

rotund hamlet
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All y’all are reminding me of DOOM fans who are incapable of perceiving any adaptation of the series beyond “Gary Stu kills demons”

fresh fog
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"As a kid and teen" yep, that certainly equates to what he looks like as an adult

timid ether
# wraith socket I fundamentally disagree with you with basically everything you say, and genuine...

I don't think it was cringed. They first had chief eat with the girl telling her everything is wired through his helmet. They they tried to subdue him by controlling his oxygen. After that the girl didn't trust him. But he had no time to explain anything. So he did the best. Take off his helmet, show her he's not a danger and at the same time cut the power from the helmet so they couldn't track him.
It was perfectly set up.

Only thing i would have wanted that he takes out the tracking stuff from his helmet and put it back on. Other than that perfect in-story execution

rotund hamlet
fresh fog
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trying way too hard to defend the show like you'll get something out of it

blazing notch
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Fr lmao

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# rotund hamlet All y’all are reminding me of DOOM fans who are incapable of perceiving any adap...

How lol? As I said earlier, it didn't need to be about Chief. It could've been any Spartan. It could've been Band of Brothers meets UNSC Marines. They deliberately chose for it to be about Chief, but were too lazy to research the lore so decided to do their own timeline where everything is effed. Almost every way you can think of doing the show differently would've been better than what's been delivered so far

fresh fog
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Not that hard to respect the franchise

timid ether
blazing notch
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If we're being completely honest, they picked a bad starting point for the show

fresh fog
blazing notch
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Lol like starting at the beginning of the covenant invasion with Chief there really throws everything off

rotund hamlet
blazing notch
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And why couldn't they get original Blue team instead?

timid ether
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blazing notch
fresh fog
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They even said early on that they wanted to respect the franchise. Choosing to unmask the face of the franchise, even in the first freaking episode, is NOT respecting anything

rotund hamlet
timid ether
blazing notch
rotund hamlet
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All the rest are lukewarm to very positive

fresh fog
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Sonic and Detective Pikachu respected the franchise

gaunt harbor
rotund hamlet
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How about Warcraft? Are you going to tear its timeline changes apart?

fresh fog
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in writing, never shown

rotund hamlet
# fresh fog in writing, never shown

Every Halo character going forward that has never been onscreen should wear full-body suits every time they're onscreen. This is the logic you are implying.

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Completely disregarding the written medium, got it

fresh fog
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Where did I say every?

rotund hamlet
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You said we shouldn't see Chief's face onscreen since that description of him is apparently invalid

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# fresh fog Where did I say every?

Don't even bother with that guy. He's a contrarian just for the sake of it - either that or he worked on or knows someone who worked on the show lol

rotund hamlet
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So by your logic every character that has never been onscreen, and only got physical descriptions, should be fully obscured as characters when they reach the screen.

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You are making me laugh out loud

fresh fog
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I said writing something down is not the same as physically seeing something with your eyes. How many times do I have to say this

rotund hamlet
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This conversation is going nowhere buy a book

fresh fog
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You're literally like talking to a wall

wraith socket
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Except that's not the logic he's presented lol. I can't begin to understand how you made that leap in logic. You're basically saying that if someone tells you that they don't like crunchy peanut butter, to you that means that they hate all peanuts and nobody should ever eat peanuts ever again.

timid ether
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Technically he is correct. Everyone complaining they ignoring canon. And then when they follow canon by showing his face like he did in the canon before it is invalid? I'm just wondering

fresh fog
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I have read the book, I'm not saying that it doesn't DESCRIBE what he looks like in the book, we have never seen what he looks like as an adult in pictures or in game, we've never seen his full adult face.

last osprey
timid ether
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But isn't that part of books. Imagination. Seeing things because if describtions? That's all books do

timid ether
fresh fog
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If someone describes a sunset, are you staring at the same sunset they are looking at?

rotund hamlet
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And you're the one saying that the show has to respect canon

fresh fog
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I never said that, you're the one saying that something describing what he looks like is the same as physically seeing a picture

rotund hamlet
# timid ether 🤣

let's go and talk about jackals in another channel before he storms to 343 to demand that they drop xbox one support

timid ether
fresh fog
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The director is not going to come to your house to personally congratulate you for defending his show

gaunt harbor
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People can voice their opinion without expecting to be rewarded for it

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Your opinion is moronic

fresh fog
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B/c I don't think writing describing what he looks like is the same as physically seeing what he looks like?

gaunt harbor
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A detailed description of him currently plus knowing what slightly younger him looks like means that we know more or less what he looks like

lucid solstice
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Is the series out yet?

fresh fog
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But have you seen what he looks like physically as an ADULT?

timid ether
lucid solstice
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Ok

fresh fog
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yes or no, simple question

gaunt harbor
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Are you going to yourself to sleep because they showed his face in something non canon

fresh fog
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your sentence doesn't make sense.

gaunt harbor
lucid solstice
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Dang, I don’t wanna pay for paramount+

fresh fog
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it's free with game pass

timid ether
lucid solstice
fresh fog
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game pass is $1 for your first month

lucid solstice
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How about the other months

rotund hamlet
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$10

lucid solstice
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I don’t even play on my Xbox that much

fresh fog
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you can cancel before you get billed for the 2nd month

lucid solstice
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I don’t want to go through that hassle though

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Sad 😢

tawdry kestrel
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I shall ask the same here
Okay so like, the Chief showing his face finally.... Any thoughts?..

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Is anyone else understandably pissed off?

rotund hamlet
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username and emocon checks out

tawdry kestrel
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-_- lack of social fluidity checks out

timid ether
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Some people hate it some don't. Since they already established how he looks in the books i don't have a issue with that. But it's just personal opinion/preference. You find vastly different opinions on that topic here

tawdry kestrel
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But I thought they specifically made his face mostly anonymous, so that the fans could apply whatever idea of a hopeful hero they have, themselves

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That his appearance was meant to be subjectively interpreted as whatever

timid ether
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In the games yes. Since you directly interact with it. But in other media like books or animations they showed it rather often

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And the show is more based on the books if all

tawdry kestrel
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Where else in other media do they show his face, other than that of a kid?

timid ether
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The first book where his face was depicted also came out 1 month before Halo CE.

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Other then 14. I know there's described his adult face but can't point you to that line out of my mind.

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And it really doesn't matter. You either like it or not

tawdry kestrel
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Idk, I think there could've been much more climatic circumstances to finally show his face after keeping it hidden this entire time to the majority

timid ether
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I think it was a good way. Certainly not special. But i don't think they wanted to make it special necessarily

sick ridge
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The frames read "FILE ]]] SERVER 8013 ##" (last two digits range between 01 to 97)

tawdry kestrel
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Fair.
I suppose my expectations are that of a juvenile over the whole thing, since Halo was the only thing that made my childhood incredible

sick ridge
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And the second time "FILE ### SERVER 4679 " (followed by two digits again)

timid ether
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I'm 34 and inhaled everything halo i could find from the beginning. But I'm okay with how the show turned out.

tawdry kestrel
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I'm 22 and earliest memories are Halo

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I wish I was an adult from the beginning

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To properly absorb and learn all of the lore

timid ether
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Nobody keeping you from doing so ^^

tawdry kestrel
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Oh yeah, I'm saying from back then

timid ether
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Got ya

tawdry kestrel
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Other than that

sick ridge
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Each change in the text is actually just a shifted letter, a ROT decryption. So all the other lines of text (eg: "UXAT <<< HTGKTG 9124") are just FILE and SERVER shifted a number of alphanumeric characters. Even the digits are shifted, though oddly the 2nd instance of file server have different digits and non-letter characters. Curious.

timid ether
sick ridge
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lol, it's late.

sharp crown
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That depressing. It felt like they didn't and instead wanted a fanfiction of their own garbage story

little anvil
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Yo master chief looks a little gnomish 😂

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alpine nexus
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The writers must be trolling

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How are you allowed to even touch a Halo project without know common facts such as the fact Chief has never had a face reveal?

wraith socket
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Reminds me of the showrunners of Game of Thrones. At least they "kind of forgot" how to make a decent show. These pricks didn't even play the games lol

timid ether
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You know what a Composer is? I don't think the guy who made the music has something to say about the writing
Says writers must be trolling...links article about the guy that does the music. Huh. Seems like there's only one guy who's trolling here

proud yacht
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anyone know the pass code to the Dr. Catherine Halsey's Computer website

timid ether
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Nobody has found out yet

proud yacht
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ah

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it's weird that vannak and riz outrank chief even tho it doesn't make sense unlike how fred outranked chief since kurt promoted him while chief was gone and the only reason fred remained a higher rank was because chief was gone after h3

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acoustic notch
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My view of the first episode so far

echo shuttle
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I hate the new Silver team, it’s so stupid

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It’s just Walmart Fred, Linda, and Kelly

acoustic notch
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The first scenes with all the fighting were trash I feel like college students could make a far better scene as a basic low budget project. Then the rest was them dragging out scenes in turn lacking substance. So it was basic

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It reminded me of star trek discovery the first seasons

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Where it was like she walked the end she got on the ship the end she talked the end

echo shuttle
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The series has no gerth. No effort

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It was clearly rushed

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And the acting is bad

acoustic notch
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yeah

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And they picked Mr droopy face to be masterchief

echo shuttle
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Yup

acoustic notch
# echo shuttle Yup

Also I dont think at this point its about rushing its just their choice to spew out crap content

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That and they have extremely poor management

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And 99% of their focus is monetary gain nor content quality

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not

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Sifting through the thousands of promo proposals offers for halo infinite to sell a bunch of crap is their primary focus

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They just want to heavily focus on selling the name via products and make money without care to the quality of their content

upper mantle
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Sheesh

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I thought the acting was pretty good actually. I bought in.

bronze crane
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For the first episode they nailed the grudge between rebel fighters and the UNSC. Fight scene was very entertaining especially since they used actual game sounds for the assault rifle, Energy shield recharge, and minigun, and the active camo. I did have on issue in this scene which was the DMR being used as an assault rifle, which it is not. The elites looked Ok but they could have been better. They should have built up to master chief taking his helmet off, was too soon for that, and after he took it off he should of just put it back on. The girl being raised by the covenant, which is completely against the lore, was slightly redeemed when shown that they kept her around to turn on forerunner artifacts but i still don't like her character because of the lore issues she creates.

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Now onto some issues I had that had to do with lore wise, even though this show has stated they aren't using any. One being the UNSC making the spartan program when it was actually ONI. With ONI in mind the UNSC killing the girl for propaganda, even though the UNSC might do this in lore, is something that ONI would most likely do. I also have issues with the helmet being taken off for obvious reasons but I'm not condemning the whole show for doing it. As mentioned before the girl raised by the covenant is wrong since the covenant killed any human they came across. I did like seeing two elites guarding a prophet since the Elites were the main military force for the covenant which included security for the prophets. Did like seeing the Shangheli language being used also. Another thing I liked is them showing how the Mjonir armor is put on, very accurate from what we've seen in halo 4. For the fight scene I felt like the Elites where shown as more of canon fodder than shown in the lore because in the lore spartans would have issues with just one of them but I will say Master Chief is an exception to this and he was with other Spartans so I won't hold it against them. Also didn't like the part where they were lowering the air in the pelican and master chief almost blacked out when if I remember correctly his suit actually does have a small oxygen supply for if he's in space. Also liked how the spartans listen to Halsey more than the UNSC which is true to the lore, she really the one in charge of spartans than the UNSC for obvious reasons.

alpine nexus
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Or Chief just shouldn’t have taken the helmet off

bronze crane
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That would of been nice, but they did and it was way too soon if they were planning on it. Should have been like mando where we didn't see his face until the end of the season

misty junco
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Is the show even worth watching cause it sounds trash

bronze crane
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The first episode was entertaining

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I liked it but of course had my own issues with it

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I'm watching it for entertainment reasons and also to see how wrong they get things

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Plus it's master chief! sure there's some issues with the show but it's master chief! who wouldn't want to watch him take the covenant on! also liked how one of the elites called him "demon".

misty junco
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But I heard chief like makes jokes and takes off his helmet and sounds nothing like him which is very concerning

bronze crane
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well when you don't have the original voice actor playing him of course he's going to sound different and the jokes are really just chief trying to make a joke even though it comes off dry and forces which is something he would do

rocky oak
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Do we know if the showrunners were made to play the games at all? Just to get the feeling of Halo

timid ether
little spindle
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Chief's helmet being off and him making a goofy face was weird lol

rocky oak
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Dope, was just curious

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I think they were going for a more normal look, compared to a perfect superhero. Part of that whole being able to put yourself in the hero's shoes thing. I always saw that as part of the reason chief never takes his helmet off in games. Before it became a character thing, it was just so you could put yourself in his shoes. YOU were the Chief. Later it became iconic for his character

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I just wish he was clean shaven. I hate the look of scruff xD

late stirrup
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I hope season 1 ends with the halo ring going off so they can do a reboot for season 2 and hopefully they look at the games and lore so the story can be more successful and less infuriating for halo fans

little anvil
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We back to the endless fanboy whining again?

timid ether
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rocky oak
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Nah I'm getting my arguements ready for whiny fanboys. I thought it was dope

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Wheres the info that they read the books? Cus all I can find is them explaining why they didnt look at the games

timid ether
rocky oak
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Does not help my arguement

timid ether
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give me a sec

timid ether
little anvil
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Out of context tweets again, yeah.

late stirrup
timid ether
remote tapir
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Anybody crack the password yet?

timid ether
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dude you just asked that on the other channel.

remote tapir
timid ether
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you got "I think they're still working on it"

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if thats not an answer i dont know what is.

bronze crane
# little anvil We back to the endless fanboy whining again?

Well I'm not whining exactly just pointing out issues lore wise even though they aren't following it which makes no sense. If your going to make a show based on a game use the lore because it causes issues. Same goes for any anime, movie, or tv show that is based off of anything.

tawdry kestrel
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Pornstache is the master chief 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

bronze crane
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would of preferred master chief clean shaven

timid ether
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thats sadly how it is. resident evil certainly wasnt the games. and assassins creed...well

bronze crane
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They don't have to follow the lore completely they can make changes it's what they do in movies, tv shows, and anime but to completely ignore it or only use parts of it is the issue. I'm ok with making changes to lore to fit TV but changing it completely is when I have issues. Hunger Games followed the books pretty closely but they made changes here and there that didn't affect the story too much, same goes for Divergent also.

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Along with Harry Potter also, that's a really good example

timid ether
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thats a fair point i still think it just is hindering to much., and the fact they use their own lore just helps them create situations we never had before so its exciting and new. but i see why you cant like that. or a few people cant

bronze crane
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With the examples I've given it didn't hinder them a bit, they were even able to attract people who've never read the books like myself except for the exception of hunger games and divergent which I have read

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Harry Potter books are way too long for me

timid ether
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i tbh didnt like any of those franchises

bronze crane
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but they showed following the books work with making some changes to fit their adaptation

cyan geyser
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what is the code for the halo series website

bronze crane
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no clue

timid ether
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in the end everyone likes different things. so its fine.

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and yea nobody knows the code

cyan geyser
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oh

gaunt harbor
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The show is surprisingly good

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I like it

bronze crane
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I will agree it is doing good for it's first episode even with the issues I have for it

olive temple
little quartz
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@gaunt harbor I like it but not gonna watch the rest due to Chief

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The bulky Spartan tho

tawdry kestrel
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Am I the only one that things the spartans look good in action but very clunky when casually moving

low sorrel
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Why did they face reveal chief
And why is there a girl in the covenant? I thought humans weren’t apart of the covenant but I could be wrong

tawdry kestrel
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It’s an alternate timeline

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We don’t know why they have a human yet, but I’m sure they’ll tell us eventually

trim bloom
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Maybe it was the prophets' decision to raise a human who can be fully controlled by them so that they can start their Great Journey instead of wasting another 26 years fight against a species that is not as developed as them ། – _ – །

dusky nova
olive temple
# dusky nova Nah, it is.

Mid cgi, a lot of minor problems, acting issues. Watch Dune. I wanted the Halo show to be on Dunes level of acting, worldbuilding, and cgi

bronze crane
dusky nova
olive temple
dusky nova
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The majority disagrees with you.

runic wind
tawdry kestrel
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You would think Microsoft would spare no expense on their mascot

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Somehow forward unto dawn feels more halo than this

runic wind
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We’re only one episode in though, this is just the pilot

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All I’m saying is that’s it’s a bit early to fully judge the series

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Dont count your chickens you know?

timid ether
runic wind
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Lol

olive temple
runic wind
timid ether
olive temple
olive temple
runic wind
timid ether
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wait? you think animation and live action can be the same? what

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aight im out. this is just a troll nothing more

rotund hamlet
olive temple
# rotund hamlet "We want video game movie adaptations to be slavishly faithful and take no creat...

Im fine with creative deviations. But that doesnt mean have the spartans including master chief betray the UNSC in the first episode. Also Chief removing his helmet in the first episode. Civilians that can kill marines but cant even damage covenant. Horrendous cgi at times while fine the rest of the time. Mid acting from some characters. Mid cinematography. I wanted the show to be a 9/10 or better. Its currently sitting at a 6/10 to 7/10 with critics flaming it.

runic wind
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9 or better only, like what even?

olive temple
brisk cipher
willow path
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How often will episodes drop?

runic wind
wraith trench
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theyre doing this whole thing with the spartans betraying unsc early so they dont go through a whole war not caring about their humanity or backstory, it will affect their journey through the war much more this way and be easier for us to connect with them as humans making sacrifices to save others

runic wind
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Maybe they’ll make up for the lack of backstory with flashbacks?

wraith trench
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definitely... john already had them when he touched that Forerunner artifact, so I assume all the Spartans will follow eventually

runic wind
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Oooo, that would be neat

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Super hoping the other Spartans get some backstory

wraith trench
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i think the show will surprise people with how good it will become, some things seems strange now but its so that the story lines up smoother later

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we all know halo lore can be a bit much and all over the place at times so maybe we can have a tidy MCU version of the story with all the best parts. heres hoping.

runic wind
wraith trench
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lol, you're right, but i guess we need those guys to keep that pressure on the people making the show to be faithful to Halo even as they take their creative freedom. the fanboys are our anchor to keep it Halo

kindred fossil
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why are people complaining about the CGI

tawdry kestrel
kindred fossil
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idk whats so off about it. its pretty decent cgi there are some amazing shots

tawdry kestrel
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The community will always fine something to be mad about

kindred fossil
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true that

dreamy drum
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Is the next episode out today

tawdry kestrel
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I don't really get the hate. It is stated that it is an alternative timeline. It doesn't have to be lore accurate or related to the games because it is it's own story.

fresh fog
dreamy drum
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Thanks boss

hexed peak
willow path
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. I like the show so far

brisk cipher
neon plover
dusky nova
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The one who is hell bent on ||terminating Halsey's Cortana programme.||

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Oh you're right, her name really is Margaret

neon plover
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Big Maggie, head of ONI

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(That's what Hood calls her and it got stuck on my head)

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I wonder if Black Box would be in the show then

dusky nova
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Guess imma start calling her Big Maggie, head of ONI as well. That's catchy as hell.

neon plover
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That commander or colonel.
Sir she's an Admiral, and is Admiral to you 😤

dusky nova
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No, sir. helmet

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But Merty, honest thoughts on the show?

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Episode 1 was a blast. I have mixed feelings on the last 10 minutes, but the first 40 or so were a treat.

devout veldt
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I’m hoping we get some familiar names from Sangheili characters. Rtas, Xytan, etc… not just Generics

upper mantle
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I just want to see a warthog run to escape a halo

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Probably a season 2 thing at the earliest tho I bet

alpine nexus
real scarab
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or compose a song that's 25% wrong

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I love when people do that

lunar wraith
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Did anyone else laugh when the DMR didnt even have a scope on it ? or was that just me kinda goofy hahahah

bronze crane
nocturne star
# kindred fossil why are people complaining about the CGI

i call it the man on the moon complex. CGI was basically figured out a decade ago, but it requires a budget to do it well. So this show should have stellar cgi. Instead it looks kinda..... mmmmm..... like a live-action lilo and stitch might?

upper mantle
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That DMR sure was firing pretty quick

little anvil
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Well yeah everyone knows Reachs bloom ain’t canon

mental dirge
# nocturne star i call it the man on the moon complex. CGI was basically figured out a decade ag...

I've watched it back several times now and, honestly, am not bothered by it. I think certain scenes look pretty darn good (e.g. the prophet and the elite who kills Kwan's father), while others are more questionable (e.g. assault rifle sliding through the dirt).

I am curious, however, if that seemingly awkward jump of Chief's onto that crate when he's shooting the elites isn't due more to the gravity/mag properties of his boots than awkward CGI? Just a thought.

tawdry kestrel
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The cgi overall is good, there’s just occasional boneheaded crap, like the AR lol

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It’s also difficult to get a 1000 pound 7 foot tall power boosted human jump to look right, it’s episode one, some stuff can slide

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Also the forerunner artifact looks weird af when they approach it, but very normal when he interacts with it? It’s just strange things like that

tawdry kestrel
alpine nexus
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weight does not increase acceleration due to gravity

tawdry kestrel
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Off course weight doesn’t as it’s a product of gravity. Mass on the otherhand does, and it especially does when the density is extraordinarily high. The more dense an object the less it’s concerned with gaseous resistance. Plus, Spartans can jump like 40 feet in the air so the physics of it all compared to a normal human is going to be borked anyway

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There’s also zero indication of the acceleration rate of the planet they’re on. Could be 9.8m/s^2,could be 4, could be 20

alpine nexus
tawdry kestrel
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I never said it increased acceleration. I said it reduces the factor of gaseous resistance
Good try though

mental dirge
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@alpine nexus His mag boots, perhaps?

alpine nexus
vivid night
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...

hollow bridge
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we really gonna judge how fast he was going when falling during his jump? LMAO

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some of yall are so nit picky 😂

urban sparrow
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tell me about it

fresh fog
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It's called bad CGI choices

vale sparrow
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The only compliment I can give the Halo show is that its not the Cowboy Bebop Live Action

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but the show we got isnt our halo, they took the mandolorian plot and had master chief remove his helmet way earlier than even mando did

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this is microsoft/paramount money grab halo

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but sorry kwan aint no baby yoga

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the best scene in episode one was her being rammed by that elite lmao

fresh fog
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Exactly, they went through 200+ scripts and at that point they just looked at the Mandalorian for ideas.

pastel crater
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The entirety of the setting was just...

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Jakku.

orchid badge
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Ima be honest idk why this is true but it is- I am so bothered by the way that master chief looks in this separate universe.

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That paired with the sound of his voice compared to the real chief voice

pastel crater
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Madrigal was literally just Jakku, from the fashion and terrain.

orchid badge
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Just makes me sad

fresh fog
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Careful, you'll alert the people who defend the show to death

orchid badge
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I’m on thin ice while playing with fire i know

lofty dock
orchid badge
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There’s a difference between liking it and defending it to death

lofty dock
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I think it's pretty good
It could be much better but it's good

pastel crater
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The only thing that will save the show, is female Kig-Yar. There, I said it.

lofty dock
fresh fog
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nothing wrong with liking it, but there's people in here that almost sound offended when you point out flaws about the show.

orchid badge
pastel crater
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Bald Ruuhtian gf.

orchid badge
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Maybe by season two they will have fixed cortana and made her thicc again from halo 4 😏

lofty dock
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Noted

orchid badge
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😂

pastel crater
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Also maybe, actually blue.

lofty dock
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I saw that the profile picture on paramount plus for Cortana is blue

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Which was interesting

orchid badge
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I do get serious sonic movie OG trailer vibes from her tho

fresh fog
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they used their hologram budget on CGIng Chief jumping down

pastel crater
orchid badge
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😂

pastel crater
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Don't get me started on the Assault Rifle hitting the sand.

orchid badge
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Ikr

fresh fog
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and CGIng a gun on the ground

pastel crater
lofty dock
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Ok that was stupid

fresh fog
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lol

lofty dock
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I was so confused on why they just didn't throw it on the ground and recorded it

orchid badge
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The only person in my head who could pull off a halo infinite master chief body build to an extent (still with some special effects maybe for height) is the rock

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That would be sick

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Idk what I’m even talking about rn just random halo series stuff

lofty dock
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I cannot imagine the rock as chief

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That would be scary

orchid badge
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No not his voice

lofty dock
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Yeah

orchid badge
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Literally nothing except his size

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Like his build and his muscles

pastel crater
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The actual actors themselves are pretty talented though.

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Even with the hand they were given, they did stellar.

orchid badge
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Prob yeah

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I’ve never seen em before this but I believe you

hasty sedge
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Yeah, wouldn't really hold it against the actors themselves

lofty dock
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I think chief taking of his helmet was fine since it's not canon and stuff but they should've saved it for the last episode like in the mandalorian

orchid badge
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Yeah

pastel crater
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Hell, Pablo Schreiber was great. His reception is just hampered by the Chief's aura as a faceless masked character.

orchid badge
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Was a bit random tbh

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Plus it would be hilarious if he got instabfly shot in the head with the br 😂

lofty dock
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Him taking it off in episode one was weird and I was very confused on why they did it so early

fresh fog
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He did it just so the promoters could say that they unmasked Chief

orchid badge
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“This is reinforced titanium mjolnir (whatever) you will never even dent it.” takes off helmet random girl: “thank you”

lofty dock
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Yeah

hasty sedge
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Honestly the bigger critique I'd say is him just up and going AWOL

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For some rebel teen

orchid badge
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He ain’t a monster tbf

pastel crater
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I'm more annoyed they're painting the UNSC as the bad guys as if the Covenant genociding humanity is just a sideline.

fresh fog
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Then Pablo had to justify it on Twitter with his tweet saying that you have to unmask a character to know them....

lofty dock
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Maybe they could've had him slowly go AWOL throughout the show and near the climax they have him go AWOL

orchid badge
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Wow haven’t seen that

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That’s pure bs then 😂

pastel crater
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We knew Mando before he took off the helmet. :P

lofty dock
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Agreed

hasty sedge
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Have the rebel girl have the reclaimer touch, give the UNSC a reason to want her dead, and Halsey want her alive, than his actions would make more sense

lofty dock
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Yes

pastel crater
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Well, all humans have the reclaimer touch dude.

lofty dock
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That sounds pretty good

pastel crater
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The whole point is that humanity was chosen to inherit the mantle.

hasty sedge
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@pastel crater not all, no

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They changed that via h4, only certain humans have it

lofty dock
pastel crater
hasty sedge
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We don't even know of the Covenant is warning them for the same reason here anywya

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@pastel crater yeah, they pretty much retconned it

plush spindle
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Remember, its not fully accurate, the silver cannon is very similar but also has some changes due to the nature of filmmaking

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Things will be added or removed for the sake of the story.

hasty sedge
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Well the the reclaimer status wouldn't be affected by that

tawdry kestrel
plush spindle
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True

plush spindle
hasty sedge
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Let's be honest, the timeline only exists solely so they can do what they want

pastel crater
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Forward Unto Dawn was dope, I hate how much flak it got.

plush spindle
plush spindle
pastel crater
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The soundtrack during the hunter showdown was just, mm! Chef's kiss.

tawdry kestrel
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Issue with Forward Unto Dawn outside of the first two thirds being a slow burn is it falls into that 'Hunger Games' style of action filming.

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i.e. abundance of shaky cam and slow motion.

plush spindle
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tbh i like that, it gives it some realistic motion and also the dramatic feeling

tawdry kestrel
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It has its uses, but when a character is just running, for example, I could do without it.

plush spindle
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Yeah, it's done best when not overused, but when it plays to the story.

pastel crater
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Just shut up and listen to the Axios track from the movie and all is immediately forgiven.

hasty sedge
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The only thing I have actually enjoyed thus far was the plasma effects, seeing it reaemble the books

plush spindle
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Lmao

nocturne star
plush spindle
hasty sedge
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I guess, was never fond of the UNSC myself

little anvil
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Hence the Sangheili username ye?

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Something I noticed about the complaints; the deep lore fans, the ones who populate places like Halopedia and such, they don’t mind the show, or actually like it.

Lot of the more angry voices are from people who haven’t touched the books or have sidelined the lore

little spindle
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Or people just don't enjoy it. Not trying to sound like a snoz but you gotta realize with it being an adaptation, some people simply won't like it.

hasty sedge
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@little anvil Aye but what can I say? Liked the Covenant aesthetic and history more

urban sparrow
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all humans AFAIK can activate forerunner tech

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Halo 4 didn't retcon anything

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it's a species-wide geas given to humanity

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now sure, there might be some outliers where the geas didn't propagate through some humans just due to other factors, but most humans have it.

hasty sedge
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@urban sparrow incorrect, we have some cases of non-reclaimer status. The SOF crew was failed to be seen as Reclaimers during the Halo Wars conflict, along with Jul's Covenant guys attempting to use humans to activate forerunner tech, and failing

urban sparrow
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right but do we know HOW they were trying to activate it?

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were they just hovering their hand over it like most people do when trying to activate it or were they like trying to break in or trying to damage it

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I guess you have valid points though

hasty sedge
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They attempted to use the marines to activate it, and than killed them when the humans failed

urban sparrow
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seems to be semi wide spread spread unless we just got really lucky with all the humans we saw activate tech

hasty sedge
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Makes sense i suppose with the geas passing down through the generations, not everyone is gonna get it

sour warren
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Bro join the Fortnite server this server is trash!

little spindle
# sour warren Bro join the Fortnite server this server is trash!

Fortnite battle pass, I just s^^t out my a^^.
Booted up my PC, cuz I need need to get that Fortnite battle pass,
I like Fortnite, did I mention Fortnite, I like Fortnite.
Its night time I mean its 5 o’clock thats basically night time,
Y’all remember cartoon network adventure time.

scarlet ferry
gaunt harbor
lofty dock
little anvil
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Of note, ironically, Fortnite now bears more resemblance to Halo than it ever has; the new no-build mode features regenerating shields and parkour abilities.
Obviously its not 1 to 1, but the similarities amuse me.

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Just waiting on the return of the spider man gauntlets...

vapid wing
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Boys I simply do not enjoy the Halo show

little anvil
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Unfortunate.

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(Douses with that stuff that makes the body disintigrate when hit with a Halo pulse)

vapid wing
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The effects make It look like something made by Corridor Digital. Which I would be fine with if Corridor Digital made it

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$90mil budget and that’s what you come up with?

next narwhal
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Hey there everyone! 🙂

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New here, probably the only person left on the planet that hasn’t played the games yet

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Recently got the master chief release or whatever it is called for Xbox Series X

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Playing the first game that was released, I’m like 4/12 in or whatever and had a simple question

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It feels like a fairly repetitive slog of just run past the guys till you get to the next checkpoint or special event for the most part

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A few places where you HAVE to kill things obviously

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Is there a way to know from something on screen if the area or checkpoint you are at is “required” or if you can just skip past it?

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I don’t have a vast amount of time to play so I’d rather basically run through the story than kill every single enemy if that makes sense…

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Oh is this the SHOW chat? Not the game series, the show series?

hasty sedge
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@next narwhal yeah, there is a chat for the MCC game,

#644651849647128606 though to answer the question you shouldn't need to kill every enemy on the Silent Cartographer level

tawdry kestrel
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The show is good

kind hull
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It's okay

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i mean, im still trying to process how i felt about it

little anvil
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Limbs go boom.

sage latch
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is the series canon?

little anvil
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No

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At least not to the mainline one. Its is own universe called the Silver Timeline.

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Think of it how RWBY is handling Ice Queendom.

vapid wing
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RWBY still exists?

vapid wing
# little anvil Limbs go boom.

I’ll give the show one thing. It pretty accurately depicts what covenant energy weapons would do to a squishy human body

little anvil
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Moreso than the games have ever done.
Two words, my fellow gamer;
BLAMITE. SUPERCOMBINE.

kind hull
little anvil
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A case in point of "somethings not dead till they stop making stuff for it."

vapid wing
vapid wing
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idk how to defend this crap man

little anvil
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Its a single miss-placed shot, presumably resulting from the complications of filming and editing in a pandemic situation.
If the Mortal Engines fandom can swallow what happened to Hester Shaw you can forgive a single instance of oddities.

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Or you can perpetually bring it up until everyone looses interest as they already have because guess what?
It. Doesnt. Actually. Matter

fresh fog
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The unpainted plasma pistol mistake reminds me of the backwards pistol mistake in Mass Effect Andromeda

little anvil
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We have officially reached the point where people are scraping reasons to be mad off not just the bottom of the barrel but the very floor the barrel is on. They moved the barrel and they're scraping up the mold that grew in the shadow of the barrel.

fresh fog
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nah, they're valid criticisms, people just choose to be mad when hearing them

little anvil
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A single missplaced shot isnt worth commenting on.

fresh fog
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It is though, and it's funny

little anvil
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About as funny as watching people loose their minds over stuff like this.
Seriously waht do they think its gonna do? You got about as much chance of changing the mind of one of these large companies as survivng having a blamite shard rammed into your eye socket

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Better to save your energy for more useful stuff, like job or school. Assuming these people have EITHER cause it seem slike all they do is go on social media and whine

fresh fog
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Same goes for the people defending it

little anvil
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...actually on that subject, forget combat knifes, I want a Spartan armed with blamite needles in their gauntlet.

fresh fog
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they went through 200+ scripts and a handful of directors, they've earned the criticism, plus mistakes are going to be pointed out. Just like how people are going to point out the Cortana mistake when that part airs

vapid wing
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Kai’s actors costume is falling off in some scenes, the mocap dots from pre editing are still there in others
Some guns have scopes then 2 scenes later the scope is magically gone

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its like the editing team gave up halfway through production

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all im saying is I expect more from a 10+ million dollar budget per episode

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I want to give this show the benefit of the doubt. its a rough start but maybe it will get better later on who knows. but when I see something thats clearly rushed and lazily produced im gonna call it out

vapid wing
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Ill give this episode credit where its due. I actually enjoy the armor designs and the decision to show chiefs face. I'm a sucker for suit up scenes and the one in this episode is pretty damn good. I'm glad they're not forcing themselves to be bound by ingame canon. I think cortana having some pants on for once is fine. I like that the show isnt afraid to show us what happens when a plasma gun meets human flesh.

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im interested enough to want to see the next few episodes

little spindle
little spindle
outer sapphire
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when does ep 2 drop?

little spindle
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I believe the 31st

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But I could be wrong

outer sapphire
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hmmm okay. they doing a weekly ep drop right.?

little spindle
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That's my assumption

outer sapphire
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awesome

little spindle
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👍

tiny token
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hey is the series worth it ??
i mean should i be excited ?

burnt obsidian
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Ep1 was good
I liked it

timid ether
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its slightly above average. lot of things wrong with it. but if you can accept that everything is contained in an alternate universe. like a "Halo: What if". Then its a enjoyable watch.

little spindle
upper mantle
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The show has flaws but is still a thousand times more watchable than the vast majority of television.

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Judging by the first episode anyway

dusky nova
hexed peak
native otter
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So that code on the website just leads to this an unavailable video?

timid ether
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whats the code

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did people really found out

vale cradle
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Thursday is in 2 days

mental dirge
vale cradle
kindred fossil
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halo nightfall underrated

urban sparrow
tiny token
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@mental dirge @vale cradle
thanks for the quick review
i hope this one has plenty of gore , blood and violence LOL

hexed peak
little spindle
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I'll wait to judge until the season is over

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But the first episode left some to be desired

hexed peak
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First impressions always matter

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But who knows? Maybe there’ll be more positives down the road? Or more negatives. Only time shall tell.

little spindle
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Agreed

elder granite
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is the show legally available in the UK yet

timid ether
elder granite
fresh fog
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Can they recast Master Chief for Dwayne Johnson?

open herald
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When Chief says, “let me show you REAL Brute Strength” and then crushes the brute Chieftains head with his hands

tawdry kestrel
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so... unavailable video??

little anvil
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Check the second link

timid ether
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i think reloading a few times or trying a different browser might help aswell

compact kelp
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hello have i found the best place for halo related things

vivid cradle
craggy prawn
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e

fresh fog
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Use you're neighbors cable

molten sequoia
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The way the plasma rifles worked was way more enjoyable than just burning people. I thought at least

tawdry kestrel
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Hold on did they make Keyes black?

hexed peak
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Both of them, yeah.

tawdry kestrel
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Yo?

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Is Johnson still black?

hexed peak
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I don’t think he’s present in the show yet. I could be wrong on that one.

tawdry kestrel
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This show definitely has its own take on things

hexed peak
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Yeah. I kinda wish they just changed the names of the Keyes characters.
They don’t think think like OGs and they don’t look like them. Might as well be new characters.

tawdry kestrel
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I agree. I didn't want to come off as racist or anything, but diversifying the cast by changing up the ogs? Come on

hexed peak
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mmhm

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I like my black characters black, I like my white characters white.

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It’s not too late for the current casts, though.
Just dub over some new names.

humble girder
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I feel like he would fit johnson better

timid ether
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at first only from the trailer i really thought it was johnsson. but i dont care that its keyes now. it its what it is. different universe. whatever.

hexed peak
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If it’s a different universe, then why include Keyes at all?

kindred fossil
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what lol?

hexed peak
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Well, anything can happen in a different universe. That’s why corpos have been abusing the idea of alternate universes for a while. It lets them make any changes whatsoever for whatever message they’re trying to preach, and avoid suffering the consequences.

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Not saying Halo’s trying to be preachy, but you get the idea.

full hare
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So we do or don’t know the code?

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Nvm lol we do

alpine nexus
lofty dock
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Yeah

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What is the code

urban sparrow
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nobody can type it out here since they're not standard characters or send a picture

steel marsh
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Im excited for episode 2

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Im curious if itll end with the people learning the coordinates of the ring or will tease the fall of you know where.

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Because i feel season 1 should be a tease of whats to come.

weak lion
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So the show is divisive

little anvil
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Everything is

steel marsh
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I mean free speech means divisiveness

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As long as it doesnt get super toxic ill enjoy the show.

little anvil
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Depends on where you are but in my expereince, everywhere that I go, people keep putting it and its very existance on blast.

hasty sedge
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Makes sense with how popular halo is, least it isn't on the level of Disney making everything not canon

sick ridge
upper mantle
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People really got traumatized by the legends wipe 😭

hasty sedge
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Was an unfortunate time yeah

brittle tangle
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1/10 rating on my end

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@frigid wyvern this is the TV show

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@viral mason

viral mason
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rate 1/10

lyric breach
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8/10 for me, it aint canon. Though some parts do trigger me (humans in the covenant)

stoic silo
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Why is master chiefs gun NOT have a barrel hole?

lyric breach
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Never noticed lol

stoic silo
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Although chiefs armor is cool it still looks plasticky, not enough detail near any mechanically complex parts.

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They didn't even bother dropping a prop rifle, it's just CG

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Elite skin stronger than armor?

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They spent all their budget on a cool intro though

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Well... Kinda cool

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Also Paramount's menu kind of sucks. Exhibit A: 10 second fast forwards & backwards buttons are not 10 seconds

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No Grunts?

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OOf

lyric breach
stoic silo
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The Elites don't look bad, there not perfect but not bad

lyric breach
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I dont think i can say a single rvb line then according to the rules

stoic silo
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what?

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It's one of life's great mysteries, isn't it?... don't know, man, but it keeps me up at night.

lyric breach
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I think its kinda ironic tbh, not being able to cuss a server of a game full of people that cuss constantly

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Just adds to the definition of halo

lyric breach
stoic silo
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Never really watched rvb

lyric breach
stoic silo
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I never really got into that stuff

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watched it when I was young just a little bit but now I really dont want to, considering the newer seasons just look like that one CGI legend from halo legends

lyric breach
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Its much better than the paramount show, especially starting out the way it did

lyric breach
stoic silo
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rvb had love behind it

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eherm not the later ones

lyric breach
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It had a weird period of time where the cgi was bad

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We had funny bad, bad bad, and inseparable from the game good

stoic silo
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Ok new discovery

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The buttons are only more than 10 seconds, sometimes

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Commander Shepard (Mass Effect) Easter Egg

stoic silo
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Do they not have any fighters?

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A pelican is a cargo carrier not a interceptor

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Suit up is cool at least

steel marsh
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You think peter jackson put a hex on this production?

tawdry kestrel
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is the 2nd episode out yet?

wraith aurora
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Can we digress that the grenade launcher underslung wasn't used on a covenant before the elite slaughtered the entire village folk.

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Like for real did they not arm a 40mm caseless in there?

keen sail
urban sparrow
timid ether
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I am so hyped for tomorrow

timid moth
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Ohh sorryy

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Forgot about our difference in Time zones.

timid ether
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Sometimes timezones can get confusing ^^

timid moth
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Indeed

tawdry kestrel
#

at least moon knight released

vale cradle
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See Netflix would have released the whole season

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🙇‍♀️

fresh holly
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They would? I've not used Netflix in a while 🤔

timid ether
sharp barn
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Anyone else here who saw the new Halo series and was like this isn't the Halo i use to know?

timid ether
sharp barn
timid ether
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if you think "stick what halo actually is" you wont be lucky with this one and rather dont watch it. thats not gonna happen for you

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thats just sadly how it is. its inhernetly different

sharp barn
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When the production say screw your franchise we will make our own twist. ^

timid ether
# sharp barn When the production say screw your franchise we will make our own twist. ^

that was the best option they have. being 1:1 to a franchise where the lore is so deep that every minute of chiefs life is written down cant be adapted to a tv show medium without changes. specially not changes that lore fans woudl accept. by having their own lore they can tell more stories that are new any exiting and we heavent read int he books yet. 99% of adfaptations that want to be 1:1 fail. see assassins creed

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but thats the same reason people dont like it so. its just that. either you like it or not. up to you.

sharp barn
timid ether
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well. lore fans would disagree with that not 100%

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and they didnt rush anything. they can take as much time as they need. its their own tv-universe-lore

sharp barn
timid ether
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no necessary reason. okay. yeah you just wanna complain to complain. got ya. bye

sharp barn
errant rose
spring gale
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whens ep 2

timid ether
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tomorrow

spring gale
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oo alright

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do they release at 12am or

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bro just got muted tashi

pearl oar
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it isnt related, I just saw the article and wanted to show to you guys

echo beacon
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If halo rat isn’t the main protagonists in season two…

visual loom
echo beacon
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amongkle yes

unkempt glen
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i tried to cancel my paramount plus sub bc my trial was ending but they gave me a month extension 🤔 they might be desperate for views and subs imo

unkempt glen
visual loom
unkempt glen
visual loom
spring gale
earnest fulcrum
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hear me out
practical effects elites

real rampart
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Been going through the books in chronological-ish order. Gotta say, I was stoked for the first episode. They really made the plasma weapons look nasty in their effects ❤️ great job there. The games never did the justice of seeing foliage and people explode when hit with balls of supercharged plasma. My wife who has only been exposed to halo listening to me listen to audiobooks was also able to follow along and she has been calling them by their own species names rather than UNSC designations.

uneven stratus
# timid ether if you think "stick what halo actually is" you wont be lucky with this one and r...

The funny thing is that this is "what Halo actually is":

Big green super soldier with blue AI girlfriend fights religious aliens and finds a weapon from an ancient civilization along with an infectious ancient enemy.

That's really it. Based on the first episode and previews...they're basically hitting the core check marks. As long as the ring and the Flood show up at some point, they've made a Halo story. Critiquing the quality is fine, having general gripes or being sad about a change/omission/addition that someone liked is valid, but I genuinely don't understand what people mean about "what Halo actually is" lol

little spindle
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Really hope we get an Arbiter at some point. And by Arbiter, I don't mean a lady raised by the Covenant lol

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I want to see it again from the perspective of an Elite. There is potential to really give us a cool look into the Covenant.

jovial imp
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I.. have .. choose.. not to watch the show.. after episode 1

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It feels wrong.. to see the reveal in tv series, when masterchief have stand for 6 franchise in the gaming verse

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Like.. somehow, dishonor the character

earnest fulcrum
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343 really set out to make the Elites bulky as hell

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and somehow it also translated to the show?

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like in the second game elites were kinda like space samurai to young me

uneven stratus
uneven stratus
jovial imp
earnest fulcrum
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I think it would have been a better artistic choice to cast a generic bald and scarred actor for him or something

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Chief is is the vessel between self insert and actual character

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and obviously that doesn't work for TV

livid furnace
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Pablo Chief don't look much like his FoR unmasked version though.

earnest fulcrum
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Also the fall of reach was mostly unknown by the masses plus it was a younger chief but good point

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It doesn't feel exactly thought out.

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While you can gather lots of lore and such from the books, the games are the best potrayal of the chief as there is a whole motif and philosophy built around him. He's more than a character

livid furnace
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The books were best for character expansion

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Where longer lines of dialogue felt more in-tune with the events of things. I think I felt more comfy with Game Chief being to the point and seldom-spoken but Book Chief being more elaborate

earnest fulcrum
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Written stuff is always better for the lore yeah.

livid furnace
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Also, voice actors being paid by the word, but those are minor details.

earnest fulcrum
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Oh?

livid furnace
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Joke.

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I think.

earnest fulcrum
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I mean eitherway what's the context lmao

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Whatever, but yeah I think the show could have introduced everything more slower. The first episode feels like just bunching some things together to get people's attention

runic wind
earnest fulcrum
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I think they did it in a rather fan fiction way if that makes sense

livid furnace
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But you need to draw in an audience.

earnest fulcrum
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Also I wouldn't really call this a pilot episode. Pilots usually run on actual TV to get feedback and such. This is more of a streaming thing.

livid furnace
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If I like Scifi, and I like, say the Expanse, what would draw me to Halo

earnest fulcrum
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Pilots basically stopped existing with streaming service shows

livid furnace
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What's the "Oh man, I need Paramount+" moment.

earnest fulcrum
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I got a feeling most people including me watched this on anything but Paramount +

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It's a MOUNTAIN of entertainment ™️

livid furnace
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Well... I did watch it.

earnest fulcrum
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Did you see anything besides the show?

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(Also Paramount + doesnt exist in my area)

livid furnace
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Nice to know people so you can walk if it's not for you.

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I didn't even consider watching the Expanse until maybe a few seasons in.

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So, Halo I think needs a string of solid episodes if it wants to draw a crowd.

steel marsh
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Personally fandom in general is never truly happy with anything. They look for reasons to attack certain projects. I bet you if Neil made a halo movie they’d pounce all over him for not having Sarge J. In the film and the covenants planned design. Especially in the post “sequel” saga of star wars.

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They have a right to criticize mind you, but it feels like that overly critical college teacher at times.

earnest fulcrum
livid furnace
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No, I expect filthy Innie politics now.

earnest fulcrum
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rip

steel marsh
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@earnest fulcrum it will because they gotta stretch time out for drama. Embrace the inevitable.

earnest fulcrum
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I mean the Clone Wars republic politics were alright since they didn't take long and also justified most events

steel marsh
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DRAMA SELLS

livid furnace
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I already know the checks to the prop department bounced again.

steel marsh
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@livid furnace really?

livid furnace
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Yep.

steel marsh
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So production is still a nightmare?

livid furnace
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M16s

earnest fulcrum
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Oh this reminds me. The AR is quite big in this show.

steel marsh
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Well yeah its on a budget.

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Reaaallly should’ve been a movie.

livid furnace
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10 million an ep though?

steel marsh
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@livid furnace where most of it goes to cgi and actors.

livid furnace
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I'm trying to find more of a source for this, but this reddit is claiming Expanse cost 2-5m an ep

earnest fulcrum
steel marsh
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@earnest fulcrum did he have anything to do with production issues?

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It feels like he did. Like a phantom of the opera level

earnest fulcrum
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Nah, but we all know he did have something to do with that canned Halo movie

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He was supossed to direct it in 2009

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Wait nvm you knew of that

steel marsh
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@earnest fulcrum i feel bungie has something to do with this more 👀

sharp barn
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Neil blankoff's short film, halo landfall 👍

earnest fulcrum
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Loved it

steel marsh
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Seriously why hasnt paramount contacted neil?

earnest fulcrum
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I love the shakey camera style, it feels authentic and more grounded.

steel marsh
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Makes me dizzy

earnest fulcrum
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I mean not the entire movie.

steel marsh
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Yet they got liebsman….diet neil.

earnest fulcrum
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A blend of 1917 continous shots and slightly shakier camera during intense firefights is a dream

livid furnace
earnest fulcrum
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good lord

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That messes with a man fr

steel marsh
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Id rather have a scifi fantasy approach to it.

earnest fulcrum
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Hopefully if the tv series goes well we might live to see an ODST show

steel marsh
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I still theorize neil is the new new showrunner for season 2.

earnest fulcrum
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I like to think this show is just for mainstream interest so other legit projects can take place

livid furnace
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I'll say it again. Band of Brothers Halo

steel marsh
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Because he liked one post about the show. For no reason 👀

earnest fulcrum
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Practical effects covenant

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That would go kinda hard.

livid furnace
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I think a happy medium can be done with Covenant

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Things like Grunts and Jackals can probably work with CG

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But larger things like Brutes and Elites could work with puppetry, or costumes and camera tricks.

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Prophets are highly complex so I can understand if filmmakers go full CGI. In all honesty I liked the subtle movements in the face

weary pulsar
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😐 Well, subscribed to Paramount+ mainly for Halo, but since so many Halo fans are very disappointed with it, I'm probably not going to bother watching it. Hollywood has put me through enough heartache with their utterly 💩 video game adaptations as is. Not putting myself through that trauma again. But hell, at least I get some other decent shows to watch on the service I guess.

hexed peak
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Since they seem to be releasing episodes by the week, if anyone was still interested in watching it, then I’d like to recommend subscribing once all the episodes are out.

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That way, you don’t spend multiple months of subscriptions for one season of one show.

stoic silo
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Ah yes

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I pay for paramount plus

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to get ads, and last night I had no issues but now? I get an error code.

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ANYWHO

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Paramount+ sucks, cant even have adblock, and I pay for this crap

urban sparrow
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pay for the non-ad version

livid furnace
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I was just watching a video on the Expanse timeline, and the Innie envoy we see at the beginning of E1 is a character on that show too

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Maybe someone was taking notes.

mild hemlock
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the expanse was extremely well written and respected its source material

livid furnace
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I forget his name but he's in a bunch of stuff.

mild hemlock
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hes also in pacific rim

livid furnace
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I noted for whatever reason that their version of Parangosky reminds me of Secretary Avasarala.

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Position of power maybe

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A somewhat similar look.

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Less cursing though

mild hemlock
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i made that connection too

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seems someone wanted to recreate the expanse in halo

livid furnace
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I saw screenshots of E2

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Don't tell me those Innies don't remind you of Belters

mild hemlock
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mhm

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halo is so different tho i dont think itll wrk

livid furnace
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Now, Halo does have political intrigue.

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But it focuses more on aliens. I'm seeing so far Humanocentric political drama. That's not a bad thing.

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Hope they copy the space combat.

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But Halo isn't as hard in that department as it used to be though.

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I'd love to see frigates and even cruisers flip around on plumes of thrusters just letting loose with tracers and MAC rounds.

mild hemlock
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They do fight like in the expanse, usually at extremely long range

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missiles and MAC guns

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i mean they can do Humancentric and transition into Human-Covenant War I guess, although its already 2552 so i guess the timeline is completely different from the games canon

livid furnace
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That's one of the things I love about that show is the combat. I think Halo could really benefit with that sort of battle choreography.

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I dont see any trouble with a show like that. A way around it could be not to call it Halo explicitly but put across that it takes place in the same world.

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Like Titanfall and Apex

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Or BSG and Capricia

mental dirge
finite merlin
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Excited for tomorrow's episode

hexed peak
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Here’s to hoping that it’s an improvement 🍻

runic jolt
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I think they can improve armor and cgi, otherwise it is a pretty good show

hasty sedge
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Could have potential

vale cradle
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More covernant high charity scenes can’t wait

vale cradle
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🙇‍♀️

safe moss
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I can’t believe they put the masterm chief on the television

grand bolt
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You mean that guy….from Fortnite?….

cedar sleet
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get out

upbeat island
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What time does episode 2 air tonight?

tawdry kestrel
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Dose halo series episodes release every Thursday?

analog stratus
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I thought it was every Wednesday?

upbeat island
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If it’s gonna drop it’s gonna drop at midnight?

wraith niche
vale cradle
dusky nova
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Bloody hell you have fans outside of Freedom Land.

paper panther
hexed peak
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^

vale cradle
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Omg planet reach looks amazing

burnt obsidian
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paramount+ won't be releasing here

earnest fulcrum
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I am very sure everyone is keen on spending a few bucks for the comprehensive library of cinematic masterpieces Paramount+ holds

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lmao

tough slate
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I liked the second episode

dusky nova
sullen tundra
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Anyone knows when does episode 2 release today?

burnt obsidian
tawdry kestrel
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what you guys think of the new episode

hasty sedge
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Have not watched it, though from what I've heard its mostly boring as it focuses more on talking/world building than any action

verbal fox
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There was enough talking and world building one can assemble where its all going

heady halo
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Second episode was a meh

wraith socket
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How did they manage to make the second episode worse than the first? I'm impressed, honestly

verbal fox
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By ignoring Halo further

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I too can write a fanfiction that is terrible and is a mockery of Halo

wraith socket
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My mind completely checked out when the ship alarm on Chief's Condor was the same as in Star Trek lol

wide notch
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The second episode was alright I guess

wraith socket
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I get it's produced by Paramount, but god that was so cringey to me

broken trout
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What’s so bad about ep 2 lol

waxen sundial
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It's alright, just wish they made a Halo show instead

wraith socket
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I'm still watching, I just had to rewind and do a double take

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Captain Keyes is a black dude now?

broken trout
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Yes 😭😭😭😭😭

verbal fox
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Precisely. This Silver Timeline is a wolf in sheep's clothes. It will continue to be more and more different from Halo, competing with the real Halo rather than complementing it

wraith socket
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Why are they giving us boring character drama with bad actors and politics not even fans would care about instead of any kind of action? A half hour in and there's been literally zero action lol

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How did they screw this up so badly?

echo beacon
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John Halo ||obtains the infinity Gauntlet and Erases the|| Silver Timeline

wraith socket
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Jesus, this episode just gets more and more cringey as it goes on lol

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What the hell is this ||prison scene|| roflmao

verbal fox
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Its not even a prison. Those cells aren't even locked. Its a mental asylum without the asylum

wraith socket
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I honestly can't even believe what I'm watching lmao

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This is the Halo show? XD

verbal fox
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Its The Not Halo Show

restive anchor
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I haven't seen the second episode...
Having watched episode 1 with an outsider mind (Even though i'm a hardcore fan) was... tolerable,
The fact that everyone is saying the second ep is worse.... Someone must stop the madman who is destroying the franchise!

grim bone
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I don’t get it. What group of Halo fans was asking for a non-canon show??

restive anchor
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no one was, they just are idiots

verbal fox
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Hollywood.

wraith socket
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It feels like fan fiction written by someone who's never played or read anything Halo, directed by a college student who conned his billionaire dad into a budget that makes no sense for what you're getting

grim bone
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It’s Star Wars all ogre again😕😥😥

verbal fox
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Hollywood doesn't want play by Microsoft's Halo rulebook, doesn't want to be beholden to the Halo Universe's rules.

grim bone
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Do they not get that a lot of people love the story of Halo because of the games, and that’s why people get into the books?? At least for most

verbal fox
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Hollywood used to be a place of innovation and ideas. Its now just a corrupting cancer, and its seeking to corrupt Halo

grim bone
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I really just don’t get it

wraith socket
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God, the acting is so bad. And Pablo Schreiber isn't a bad actor, he was great in American Gods

narrow plank
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imagine a good show

lofty dock
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they should just cancel this, put red vs blue on paramount plus and say thats the real halo show

leaden rivet
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Why do people hate this show they already stated before launch that its not gonna be with the lord

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Lore

grim bone
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Because no halo fan was asking for a show that wasn’t lore wise loolll

wraith socket
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Oh even considering how it isn't canon, the writing and acting are absolutely terrible lol

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It's just painfully boring

narrow plank
grim bone
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I’d rather tape my eyes open and be forced to watch halo nightfall for the rest of my life than watch this new show

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At least nightfall went with the lore

verbal fox
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Forward Unto Dawn proved sticking with lore is possible.

leaden rivet
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Why cant this show go with the lore

grim bone
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Yup that one too

grim bone
wraith socket
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Yeah, I'm done after this one. It's not going to get better, and I feel bad enough that I've wasted two hours of my life hoping that it would

grim bone
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And I get changing SOME things. Not everything can be the same as the game in an adaptation I get that. But they’ve screwed so many things at this point so meh.

verbal fox
leaden rivet
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Master chief is portayed to be an unemotional piece of crap

verbal fox
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They want to fit in their own narrative, Hollywood does, and Microsoft wouldn't let them do it with actual Halo Lore. So, they made the sinful compromise of the new timeline

lofty dock
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that shouldn't be in halo
at all

verbal fox
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Take that to the spoiler chat

lofty dock
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right

leaden rivet
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Ill still continue to watch this garbage but im not going to watch it on my days off

verbal fox
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I watch it so I can hate it

leaden rivet
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The whole first episode all i got out of it was master chief has no feelings

verbal fox
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They turned them into cyborgs, not the heroes they were in reality

leaden rivet
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Exactly master chief has feelings in the games

grim bone
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A cool way to start the show would’ve been the intro from Halo 3 where cortana is like “they let me pick” they could’ve done that whole thing over but in live action show and people would’ve went crazy. Bonkers. Like I said it doesn’t need to be exactly by the games I expect a little bit different in an adaptation. But the current show is 🤢🤢🤢

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It would’ve been awesome

echo beacon
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Maybe this show is a ploy to motivate fans to make their own halo fan film series with better structures and understandable lore.

thorny trout
verbal fox
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No its a ploy to "expand the audience"

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They've said that in so many interviews by now its obvious

visual shard
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Halo ep2 disappointed for me dude whole episodes is done without wearing helmet 😦

grim bone
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They want a “broader audience” is why they’re diluting everything

echo beacon
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Wait this show is meant for an audience, you mean people would watch this?

grim bone
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But they don’t get that the reason people liked halo was because it was halo. They don’t need to dilute everything.

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From Bonnie Ross “I think it’s a huge opportunity for us being able to go off console and think about a broader audience,”

lofty dock
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the first episode was good
this one on the other hand...

grim bone
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“And I think both with the Halo TV series bringing in a broader audience, with free to play bringing in a broader audience, and then for us, I think it really is learning about how to be an ongoing service and having an ongoing dialogue with fans and getting the infrastructure right.”

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Source

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So basically it was made to bring in a broader audience. Not for halo fans.

visual shard
verbal fox
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The declassified is out, they are really trying to course correct the narrative

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They got all the cast and crew talking about the "Fans" and "Community" in one of the segments.

lofty dock
opaque wraith
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Well it’s not 1000 pounds a piece, a Spartan even without the techsuit on is still very strong

lofty dock
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true

verbal fox
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Darn, the misinformation campaign is on high right now by 343

wraith socket
opaque wraith
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But since it does take a technician (or machine) to take it off/on I did find that a little weird. But, the show isn’t canon, so I won’t dwell on it.

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I could’ve sworn some later iterations of Mjolnir could be removed by the Spartan but I would need to double check.

lofty dock
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but even looking at the ending in halo 4 chief needed a machine to take on and off his armor and you see how his chest plate doesn't even bounce on the ground just proving how heavy it is

lofty dock
visual shard
wraith socket
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I could've sworn there was even a scene in episode 1 where one of Silver Team has the machine put on their armour, so literally in the second episode there's already a gaping plot hole? Roflmao

grim bone
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The machine putting on their armor was for the Gen2/Spartan 4 stuff.

verbal kindle
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About to watch episode 2

visual shard
wraith socket
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Man, it's just so dumb

visual shard
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And you know I was expecting master chief with his armor while getting out of pelican surrendering his self but he was hand cuffed 😂

lofty dock
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I would've loved it if he didn't take off his armor when sorren asked him to and just said "No"

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that sounds like chief

opaque wraith
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Spoiler for episode 2 ahead regarding the armor discussion ||maybe Soren had a machine since he was wearing his armor when he left the program as seen at the start of the episode. And he still had the chestplate on.||

lofty dock
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ok

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that could work

opaque wraith
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Just a theory

cloud grail
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One bonus of this show being non canon is that we don’t have to worry about them butchering the canon storyline.

lofty dock
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and we know that Spartans can have their armor removed without a machine as we see with spartan griffin in infinite

lofty dock
vapid plank
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Episode 2 startin up bby👀

lofty dock
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I am sorry dude

opaque wraith
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That was by force and probably painful as heck but yeah, it’s possible

visual shard
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Dude but if they made master chief killed in series My mind will be .....no comment becz that mad guy is talking about destroying artifact and master chief as well to stop halo ||

echo beacon
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We cause a little tomfoolery

opaque wraith
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They might have a machine for it on the Condors too. In case they had to do an emergency procedure or something.

tawdry kestrel
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How was episode 2?

visual shard
tawdry kestrel
echo beacon
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-50 that’s an overstatement

opaque wraith
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All I’m gonna say is that it’s what you make of it

echo beacon
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-googolplex

visual shard
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I am disappointed by ep2

lofty dock
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we all are

cloud grail
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I watch it with no expectations relative to the games, to avoid disappointment.

I reserve my disappointment for what 343 has done to the actual canon storyline.