halo-the-series-chat

[hollow bridge]

because different standards of mediums lmao

[runic wind]

There’s no connection between the show and infinite man

[grand wagon]

Which is weird bcuz they are supposed to be human sized

[minor shoal]

The show and games are different target audiences.

[runic wind]

I hope grunts are scary instead of comic relief

[hollow bridge]

whats grunt height from head to toe, not toe to top of back?

[wraith socket]

It's a Halo show. Of course there's a bloody connection lol. 343 devs were there to consult during the entire production. Also "because different standards of mediums" what does that even mean, honestly @hollow bridge? Halo's had gore and body horror in the games. They took it out in Infinite because they wanted to appeal to the Chinese market - that backfired. But the show is super gory? I just don't get it, it seems like nobody at 343 has any idea what the other is doing

[west stump]

It was more expensive, more time consuming, and with a worse result to CG bullet cases onto a clip of someone suffering from Parkinsons holding a prop AK, than to have that person fire blanks from an AK

[wraith socket]

Who is the show even meant for though, honestly? It sure as hell isn't fans

[tawdry kestrel]

@west stump Absolutely! Like Neill has incredible action sequences in both District 9 and Elysium. This is my favorite from Elysium. At least for action scifi he was the guy… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OzliqFzK36E

[hollow bridge]

different rating systems for tv movies and video games

[runic wind]

Tv shows are more adult, video games are for a younger audience

[minor shoal]

If you think they made the halo series with the target audience as halo fans, you will be sorely dissapointed

[west stump]

Also Neil filmed the live action Halo Landfall trailer

[wraith socket]

Except that's not true at all roflmao, and almost never has been

The first Halo was literally rated M

[west stump]

Gives you a pretty good idea of what Halo would look like in his hands

[wraith socket]

Hell, look all the way back to DOOM

Saying TV shows are more adult than video games doesn't make any sense lol

[west stump]

This, they literally said it’s meant for a “broad audience”

[minor shoal]

There is deffinatly more gore in the series than in the games

[runic wind]

Tv shows allowed gore before games

[wraith socket]

What? How old are you, man?

Seriously, that's just empirically false roflmao

[hollow bridge]

people who fixate on the rating and blood in the games amazes me

[wraith socket]

The first TV show to show gore that wasn't ER was The X-Files, and that was mid 90's. DOOM was before that

[minor shoal]

Its just trying to find a justification/ reason to bicker about nothing

[hollow bridge]

it blows my mind to even be hung up on that kinda stuff

[minor shoal]

Welcome to the internet

[hollow bridge]

tv has different rating than games

[wraith socket]

I don't like it when people make stupid, obviously false statements

[runic wind]

Yeah my bad, just said it from vague memory

[wraith socket]

That's cool man, thanks for owning up

[hollow bridge]

its corporation stuff, video games: “think of the children!” movies: “lets go overboard because this network allows it!” is basically the reason

[minor shoal]

I deffinatly didnt mind the overal gore in the show, infact it was a highlight

[runic wind]

Since landfall, I’ve missed it

[hollow bridge]

its all whats allowed by the network and the tone of the show they are going for

[runic wind]

Gritty halo is best halo

[minor shoal]

Honestly if it keeps up this pace, this show will be pretty well received for non halo fans I think

[west stump]

And for Halo fans?

[hollow bridge]

im gonna watch it with family this weekend who know my obsession of the game and see how they like it

[wraith socket]

It's really sad. Paramount and CBS have ruined Star Trek by putting it into the hands of people who clearly aren't and were never fans of Star Trek, and now Halo too

[hollow bridge]

screw the halo fans

imo

[minor shoal]

Most halo fans cant disconnect the 2 mediums and will constantly try to compare

[hollow bridge]

yes exactly

[tawdry kestrel]

One Youtuber I follow mentioned ep 2 is a filler ep

[runic wind]

Filler?

[west stump]

I’m not asking for a blow by blow retelling of the games as a show

[wraith socket]

It really wouldn't have been that hard to just follow the path that Neil Blomkamp laid down - it's a recipe for success no matter how you swing it

[minor shoal]

The same reason cowboy bebop was pretty well received amongst my syfy friends that ndidnt watch the original anime

[west stump]

Exactly

[wraith socket]

It would've made Halo fans happy, and it would've been cool to watch for people who aren't fans

I have no idea who this show is meant for lol

[west stump]

Alternatively, Band of Brothers but UNSC Marines

[tawdry kestrel]

Yep. You can be respective to source material, leave your own mark and capture a large profitable audience all together

[minor shoal]

Only thing that is bugging me is that they went for AWOL chief so soon, literally ep1. no prior footage of a loyal spartan doing what hes told

Too soon imo

[west stump]

So 200 million dollars, an untouched franchise that they can do whatever they want with

[tawdry kestrel]

That’s what I’ve heard, it’s slow

[wraith socket]

I'm dreading the moment that we get to see that Sanic version of Cortana lol

[west stump]

And two episodes in we’re already just killing time

[minor shoal]

I heard ep2 drops hard unfortunatly

[west stump]

How do you screw up this bad

[wraith socket]

Neil Blomkamp could've made a better series with half the budget

[minor shoal]

but thats just word of mouth, "journalists" like to create/ axagerate drama ffor sake of clicks

Im keeping positive considering this first ep was pretty good

[wraith socket]

Just look at his "Oats Studios" stuff on YouTube. They're made on a microbudget, and they're all incredible

[runic wind]

Same here, I say just don’t take it too seriously

[minor shoal]

yeah, dont take it too seriously/ dont get hung up on plotpoints/dont over analise the dialogue and its a pretty good show.

[west stump]

How seriously should we take it?

[minor shoal]

However you want? Just watch it and judge for yourself

[tawdry kestrel]

Could be but a guy who does very honest reviews on YT said same thing. I guess last 10 min of ep 1 is a similar trend in all of ep 2

[minor shoal]

Honestly loved the spartan action

[wraith socket]

I guess pretend that you have no idea what Halo is, and you really like cliched, by the number stories written by a committee of people rather than someone with vision?

[runic wind]

Just don’t overly dissect and nitpick it

[west stump]

It’s been 20 years and we’re getting a show based on a beloved franchise, I feel we should take it decently seriously, especially with the budget

I mean

Cardboard Plasma Pistol

[runic wind]

Sorry?

[wraith socket]

Maybe if we were all high on that space drug all the kids took in the beginning, we'd understand it better?

[minor shoal]

my b, spoiler

[dense egret]

But any news for password? I'm poor for paramount+

[runic wind]

Whoop yeah sorry

[west stump]

||https://twitter.com/halo_vfx/status/1507169139865137154?s=21||

[tawdry kestrel]

Microsoft just had to Microsoft with Halo in the middle 00’s when they took their IP to Hollywood…shame shame

[minor shoal]

I honestly never even noticed the plasma pistol being cardboard or wood, looks the part on my end, but I was in 1080p

[runic wind]

What are they supposed to make it out of?

[wraith socket]

Yikes, that looks like a high school woodshop project lol

[west stump]

That’s a screencap from the show I’m pretty sure

[runic wind]

Oh I see

[minor shoal]

yeah but it was a very quick scene tho

[tawdry kestrel]

Just don’t look with your eyes

[west stump]

And?

For 10 million an episode I’d expect them to not miss stuff like this

[minor shoal]

My point is that I couldnt even have nopticed it, unless I looked frame by frame

[runic wind]

No purpose spending cash for a second of gun

Save money for big things

[west stump]

Yes there is…

It’s called production value

[minor shoal]

I agree its a big oversight, but this is kind of nitpicking compared to the CGI riffle

[wraith socket]

Instead of having a few good plasma pistols, they spent what must've been at least 50k-100k on all those Marine outfits. They looked good, I'll give them that, but christ did they really need that many?

[west stump]

So it’s a big oversight, but it’s also nitpicking?

Make up your mind

[runic wind]

Nitpicking

[minor shoal]

Still nitpicking if youre compariong it to bigger flaws

[runic wind]

I see your point but it’s insignificant

[west stump]

Because I think they should finish every shot in the final product?

[tawdry kestrel]

Haven't watched much tv have you

[minor shoal]

The CGI riffle was literally zoomed on, full screen, BAD AF CGI, this was a wooden prop, in a 1second scene being thrown on the ground

Big difference

[tawdry kestrel]

Coffee cups get left in GoT, crew members end up visible in the Mandalorian, jetstreams are visible in the sky of the Walking Dead

Budget doesn't automatically remove oversights

[west stump]

They can’t even paint the prop?

[runic wind]

I think about it like LOD why spend resource on something barely seen

[minor shoal]

Probably was meant for a different viewing angle and got oversighted

[west stump]

Because they have the damn prop already

[minor shoal]

This is what I mean when people get hung up on the same thing over and over lol

[west stump]

And you don’t go into any production half-assing anything

[minor shoal]

Its an endless cycle

[tawdry kestrel]

See: Previous examples I listed

There's half-assing and there's oversights.
It's likely they intended to mask the wooden prop and didn't have time to do a pass on that shot.

[west stump]

There’s a difference between things that look perfectly normal to us because we’re always surrounded by them, and an honest to god unfinished prop in a shot

[runic wind]

Like I said: why dedicate time to something barely seen

[hollow bridge]

Time is a huge factor for film and tv, time is money, sometimes you cant get the shots you want due to the schedule

“then schedule better”

then youve never worked in the industry

lmao

[minor shoal]

I think you should make a petition for them to remove the show untill its edited out, go for it, i'll sign it buddy

Maybe then we can move past this wooden prop discussion

lol

[west stump]

Lmao, yeah, sure, that’s exactly what I’m asking for

[minor shoal]

From your previous comments, it sounds like thats what youd like

[west stump]

Y’know what? Y’all are right

This show is a dumpster fire, and CGIing in a Plasma Pistol ain’t gonna fix that

[hollow bridge]

“dumpster fire”

every production in a season 1 and 2 is a dumpster fire

FYI

[minor shoal]

It all depends on your outlook of it, its a pretty okay show judging from ep1

[toxic warren]

Think it's time to take a break

[west stump]

My outlook is that Halo deserves better

[hollow bridge]

Most shows dont hit a stride till season 3 or are given more than enough prep time

[tawdry kestrel]

Game of Thrones, Walking Dead, Stranger Things would all like a word

[wraith socket]

Shows with a budget like this don't get a second season when they not only can't make fans of the source material happy, but newcomers either

[minor shoal]

Was Mando a dumpster fire aswell because joe the cameraman featured an appearance? Was GoT as dumpster fir... nvm looool

[hollow bridge]

Seeing as I’ve worked on 2 of 3 of those I know what I’m saying 😂

[west stump]

It’s a series with 20 years of history, and I personally don’t think it’s being done the justice it deserves, is that fair?

[minor shoal]

Its already renewed for a season 2.

[tawdry kestrel]

I’d rather it be a 1.5 hour movie with the same budget and little to no filler, but I understand they are trying to get subscribers and a movie exclusive might not do much. Focusing on people in tattered clothing for big chunks of the show because it’s inexpensive just seems like not the way to execute filler though.

[proud zenith]

who is the bearded dude in the grey jacket

i just want his clothes.

[hollow bridge]

Some shows are dumpster fires into season 4, like stranger things

[minor shoal]

Keyes?

[wraith socket]

The only way that Halo is comparable to GoT or Mando in any way possible is the budget. The biggest name actor in it is Pablo Schreiber, and he's d-list at best. I liked him in American Gods, but I've never seen him in anything else lol. And nobody else in the show is recognizable, nor any of the writers, nor any of the directors. They threw a crapload of money at a bunch of nobodies who didn't even bother to play the bloody games

[west stump]

^

[fluid forum]

Dr.Halsey was in the Truman show

[west stump]

Also, the dude in The Mandalorian was an outlier in terms of production goofs

[fluid forum]

The actor for Dr.Halsey

[tawdry kestrel]

Maybe US film school is different, here there's a lot of importance placed on understanding source material when approaching an adaptation.
Doesn't always end up in a good end product but still.

[toxic warren]

who didn't even bother to play the bloody games
They did

[fluid forum]

And Jen Taylor is playing Cortana

[tawdry kestrel]

Really not a fan at all of Season 1 & 2? I didn’t like 3. I’ll give you that

[west stump]

They literally admitted they didn’t

[fluid forum]

Basically Cortana is playing Cortana

[toxic warren]

They did

https://twitter.com/mrstevenkane/status/1506421683841757189

Steven Kane (@mrstevenkane)

@Variety Headlines are fun, but here’s what I really said: To make the Halo TV series, we started from the game, and then we made the pilgrimage to 343 to study the entire canon, so that we could bring you the FULL Halo experience! #HaloTheSeries

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[west stump]

Okay, my mistake

[timid ether]

They said multiple times they did. They just said they didn't look at the games for inspiration. Because they didn't want to make a game.

[west stump]

Very curious as to what full canon they’re drawing from though

[hollow bridge]

understandable

[runic wind]

Why is this the talking point?

[minor shoal]

Its what happens when you only go as far as to read the headlines of "journalists" only out for clickbait

[fluid forum]

See what i don't get is if they could get the Cortana voice actor, why couldn't they get the master chief voice actor?

[wraith socket]

Okay, screw the headline. Here's the direct quote, which isn't really up for a different interpretation: “We didn’t look at the game,” says Season 1 showrunner Steven Kane (“The Last Ship”). “We didn’t talk about the game. We talked about the characters and the world. So I never felt limited by it being a game.”

[hollow bridge]

you cant get a production team to sit and play a game for inspiration. best youll get is those boot camps they had with art departments

[timid ether]

Because dubbing over someone's without helmet on would be strange

[west stump]

Why does Cortana still look and sound like the OG Dr Halsey despite not existing in this universe

[runic wind]

Steve downes is 71

[west stump]

God, if only he played a character known for not taking off his helmet, maybe they could have made it work

[wraith socket]

Which is why the helmet never should've come off in the first place

[tawdry kestrel]

Diverging from the games is smart honestly, not a lot of point watching what we can already play.

I think given the TV format animation would've been a better approach but that has its own host of issues.

[broken sleet]

master chief taking off his helmet and revealing his face is like jason vorhees being not ugly

[fluid forum]

Ok I'm gonna just make the argument that if they never removed his helmet, they could have used the master chiefs voice actor

[placid frigate]

Well that Halseys PC site is pretty cool! 😄

[timid ether]

Man not played the games where he took his helmet off. Or the books where they describe how he looks...

[broken sleet]

also CGI felt weird

[tawdry kestrel]

Probably gave Steve Downes the script and he said nope

[west stump]

gasps

[toxic warren]

What Variety quoted, is not what Steven said

[west stump]

Do we ever see Chief’s face while he’s talking at any point?

[tawdry kestrel]

In Fall of Reach, assuming you'd ever want to subject yourself to that

[minor shoal]

@wraith socket with the downtime shows usually feature, it would be akward if chief kept it on for the sake of keeping it on, this isnt a game where every opportunity you see chief, is in a action scene/gameplay

[wraith socket]

That's obviously not true - the article wouldn't still be up without clarification otherwise. That tweet is damage control, nothing more.

[west stump]

Seriously, they genuinely can’t write around it?

[fluid forum]

Like in the book of boba Fett, when the actor for Mando wasn't even Pedro Pascal but they used another actor. They just used Pedro Pascals voice over and never removed the helmet

[west stump]

Why? The Mandalorian managed it just fine

[minor shoal]

Further more, the games never took his helmet off, because you are supposed to be him, taking the helmet off would shatter any thought of that

[minor shoal]

Mando had a lore reason

[maiden gull]

Anyone know the code?

[minor shoal]

Chief does not

[maiden gull]

I haven't found it yet

[west stump]

And he can’t remain a grounded character we can connect with became…?

[fluid forum]

Master Chiefs identity has always been a mystery.

[tawdry kestrel]

Face visible screentime is a thing in actor negotiation
That's why Mando taking off his helmet for so long during the Refinery episode is a thing

[west stump]

Mando still takes his off

[wraith socket]

The show didn't need to have downtime in that way though, at least not with Chief. Could do that with other characters while Chief was always in the fight. Or like other people have pointed out, make it like Band of Brothers but with UNSC marines, and the Chief showing up every now and then. I have no idea what they're going for, but it really doesn't look great

[west stump]

^

Seriously, why didn’t we just get Space BoB

[upper mantle]

I enjoyed the first episode and am looking forward to the next one.

[timid ether]

There is no point in arguing dude. People just want to hate because of no reason. Just ignore this chat till the Kindergarden is gone

[fluid forum]

Brave statement

[west stump]

Gee, thanks mate

[wraith socket]

No reason? All we've been doing is giving reasons lol

[tawdry kestrel]

I mean from what I've seen I'm not a fan either lol

[west stump]

I’m not allowed to have my own opinions on it?

[fluid forum]

You are

[west stump]

Get bent mate

[fluid forum]

I'm just saying i wasn't expecting someone to say something like that

[tawdry kestrel]

Like at the end of the day for me, personally, it isn't canon, and live action video game adaptations are gonna live action video game adaptation

So no surprises were to be had in this scenario

[west stump]

Not you

[minor shoal]

Since chief is somewhat the face of this show, it wouldnt make sense to remove his downtime just for non herlmet removal, the audience is suposed to grow a connection with chief to get them invested is my guess. If you only feature him in action scenes, there is only so much you can do

[fluid forum]

Oh

[upper mantle]

Is it? Only thing that kinda annoyed me was the lack of music from the games.

[minor shoal]

The lack of halo theme song bugged me

[west stump]

The longer this conversation goes on the more it seems like Spacs Band of Brothers would have solved everything

[wraith socket]

I just don't understand why it always ends up like this. The new Mortal Kombat was perfect aside from the movie character with literal plot armour, for instance. Halo had amazing groundwork laid by Neil Blomkamp more than a decade ago, all they had to do is follow that. Why is it so easy for fans to understand this, but seemingly impossible for anyone actually working on the bloody things?

[west stump]

^

[upper mantle]

And the helmet off thing is a little ? to me because he's taken it off before

[tawdry kestrel]

Because there's an inherent tension with marketable parts of video game franchises and things that would actually lend well to non-video game mediums

[west stump]

Even the damn sonic the hedgehog movie managed to appeal to both fans and a wider audience

[tawdry kestrel]

I guess Resident Evil 1 & 2 movies were pretty bad adaptations from the video games when I think about it. But I felt it did the games enough nodding where it could and I found those to be very fun when they came out. I think that’s what I sort of was hoping for here. Not exact adaptation. But something shows that they are doing their best to tell a separate story that fans will enjoy and newcomers as well.

[west stump]

So why am I not allowed to want the same for Halo?

[tawdry kestrel]

Resi is kind of weird in that the main 'marketable' characters got sidelined so the director could make his wife the protag

[upper mantle]

I feel like you're discounting fans who liked it a little bit

[tawdry kestrel]

Can assume Fox is talking generalities

Plenty of Sonic fans didn't like the movie

They literally could have done mando with more violence and politics and been golden lol

[runic wind]

The 3 resident evil animated movies are actual masterpieces

[upper mantle]

What does "done mando" mean here?

[tawdry kestrel]

Though there’s one episode out so maybe Halo will pull a star trek. First seasons are always crap and it gets good later

[wraith socket]

Mando literally proved that you can have a marketable, successful TV show with a character who doesn't take off their helmet. But NOOOOO, we can't have nice things.

[west stump]

Made the show in the same vein as The Mandalorian

[hollow bridge]

lmao

[tawdry kestrel]

Haha didn’t know they married. Says 2009 though. So that would be long after the first 2 movies.

[minor shoal]

Halo needs a halo, and hopefully this season

[west stump]

Oh it’s already had one

The elites call chief “demon”

So clearly he’s already blown up a ring

[minor shoal]

I meant halo ring, but the demon part was a nice touch

[tawdry kestrel]

Interesting. I’ll look those up thanks. Big fan of RE overall. Just played Village a few months ago and really enjoyed it.

[minor shoal]

oooooh I see what you mean

[upper mantle]

What does being in the same vein as the mandalorian mean? Are you just talking about not taking the helmet off?

[runic wind]

Alt timeline

[west stump]

So did I

[runic wind]

They are an experience

[upper mantle]

I don't think were supposed to read that much into the demon name

[tawdry kestrel]

WORT WORT WORT

[minor shoal]

He could of gotten the Demon nickname from killing plenty of covenant troops over and over

[runic wind]

The 3rd one is the best one

[tawdry kestrel]

The demon name is exclusive to the master chief in the covenant, it’s a big deal

[runic wind]

Also recommend playing 6

If you haven’t

[west stump]

I don’t think the writers read much into the story

[tawdry kestrel]

I’ll put money on that being the season finale. Just based on that dumb tag line and how these suits think.

[west stump]

Chief does what any Spartan does, he kill alien and doesn’t afraid of anything

Blowing up Installation 04?

[minor shoal]

Yeah, this season will be all about finding this ring, and the season finale with be a shot of them finding the ring

I think

[upper mantle]

So like, this is your schtick? Do I even want to know how many arguments about star wars you've been in?

[west stump]

That’s what made him a demon

[tawdry kestrel]

What does that have to do with halo lol

[real scarab]

Red Team is called demons by Atriox

[west stump]

Assume all you want, I literally don’t care

[tawdry kestrel]

They literally said they didn’t read into the story and made it a fan fic

Atriox isn’t covenant

[runic wind]

Silver timeline

[upper mantle]

Idk, seems like the same kind of vibe. Birds of a feather and all that.

[tawdry kestrel]

Fan fic
Doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed to be bad because of it, but it is one

[minor shoal]

Its stuff like this that makes the word "litterally" carry less weight

[upper mantle]

I mean, on some level it's all fan fiction

The only thing that makes something not fan fiction is it being from an official source, which actually the show is

[west stump]

Look man, I haven’t assumed Jack about you, or anyone in here for that matter, how’s about you show me a little of the same

[tawdry kestrel]

They did do an excellent job on the armor though holy crap. I’ll give em that👏👏

[real scarab]

Yea I wanna see this armor in Infinite

[upper mantle]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I would just ask that you don't make sweeping statements about the opinions of fans on the show.

[minor shoal]

I litterally saw my mom slip on a banana and she litterally did a backflip and litterally landed back on her two feet and I swear I saw Lucas looking at it while litterally wring his next star wars script and he said its litterally going to be in his next disney movie

[tawdry kestrel]

Cope

[minor shoal]

Literally.

[west stump]

I believe they’re saying it’s in the same vein as fanfiction, weird plots, nonsensical OCs like my totally super cool human girl who commands a whole army of covenants

Ect.

[tawdry kestrel]

Lmao chill, no one thinks it makes you cool

[west stump]

How’s about you literally shut up

[real scarab]

I do. Very cool. This man is the Fonz

[tawdry kestrel]

I kind of echoe moist critical's thoughts tbh, where if its an alternate timeline they might as well go off the rails

At least Odd One Out was fun

[west stump]

Yeah, that’s true, I felt the same way about Call of Duty Vanguard

[tawdry kestrel]

Like maybe we find out Covenant-Allied-Human-Girl can literally control any number of legkolo and she rides up on a Scarab or smth

[west stump]

^

[upper mantle]

Doesn't it makes sense that the covenant would have a human person around to turn on forerunner stuff

[tawdry kestrel]

It does

[west stump]

Yeah, it does

They keep them in a holding cell cage next to the snarling jackals

[tawdry kestrel]

Why they worship her though is the strange part
Perhaps she has an unusually high aptitude for control, to the point she can control the sentinels and defend herself?

[west stump]

^

That’s the weird bit

[tawdry kestrel]

Like if she had them vaporize an army with a thought, she’d basically be a god to them, a forerunner

[upper mantle]

I mean you're not gonna get a lot of cooperation out of a prisoner. Just gaslight them into being on your team.

[tawdry kestrel]

We just don’t know, because we’re one episode deep

[west stump]

I can understand a human being privy to a lot of sensitive information because the living equivalent of car keys to the covenant

[tawdry kestrel]

And, in traditional fashion, first episodes of sci fi are always a bit sus

[west stump]

But right now it’s just way too much

[upper mantle]

It just seems like a very prophet like thing to do, to make some random human a "bishop" just to have them on staff

[west stump]

I dunno, Halo 2, 3, and Wars all showed us you basically just need to toss a still warm body on the console and it’ll do what you want

[west stump]

Yeah, that’s a good point

[upper mantle]

Sure, but Anders and those people weren't gonna be along for the long haul. Would probably make sure they couldn't be used by the covenant when the opportunity presented itself

[west stump]

True

Except Miranda

[upper mantle]

Frankly I'm surprised the covenant didn't do this in the main timeline

[tawdry kestrel]

She’s main antagonist because “cgi antagonist expensive, no name actress cheap”

Well, the Covenant indoctrinating a human child to meet their own ends, mirroring Halsey's actions with Chief gives you some generic thematic substance I suppose

[pearl adder]

guys why didnt they just give us blue team instead of silver team

[west stump]

Hard to say that humanity is a plague that needs to be eviscerated when you’re seen making casual conversation with one at a your monthly banquet

[west stump]

This

[tawdry kestrel]

Has this girl interacted with any non-prophets yet

[upper mantle]

I guess I just assume they keep her locked in some tower on high charity

[west stump]

Same reason Halo Nightfall just had the Covenant ally aliens be people in Star Trek alien suits

[upper mantle]

Are we thinking the flood is a season 2+ thing?

[west stump]

That just leads to the issue of it being merely a step up from this

[tawdry kestrel]

Instead of the Flood, they have The Blob…silver timeline

[west stump]

lol

[upper mantle]

Well no, more "this is for your protection. The rest of the covenant doesn't understand that you're a good human. Maybe if you prove yourself they'll accept you 🤗"

[west stump]

I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’d be nice getting waited on hand and foot by a bunch of cute elites, but eventually it’d get at least a bit dull

[west stump]

Eh, touché

[feral rapids]

Just watched the first episode, for 20mil budget it looks like a heap of trash

[tawdry kestrel]

i gotta say the series is a lot more graphic than i expected

I mean the first 2 kills were someone getting their head blasted off with a lot of blood spraying onto kwan's face and the second was someone being hit in the stomach by plasma and being melted in half

also i wanna know how silver team dealt with the fallout of them aiming at marines

[steel marsh]

BLAST I LOVE THE SHOW NOW

@tawdry kestrel probably got off scott free due to a lie saying “oh we were covering you.”

[slim sparrow]

I was not to happy with the first episode, but after watching the declassified show I think they're going to tell a story of Master Chief saving lives even if goes against orders.

Did anyone else watch the declassified episode?

[keen sail]

The CGI is so bad.

[cobalt halo]

for the password thing i did manage to find this. only found 2 of 6. but its a start. https://imgur.com/a/EJSGar0

[slim sparrow]

I think for 200mil the cgi could have been better but I they will listen to the audience and fix that in season 2.

[alpine nexus]

listen to the audience... right...

[dense egret]

If help, the symbol is letter.. from "A" to "O"

[cobalt halo]

and space is p

[dense egret]

Sure?

[cobalt halo]

yeah

and the 2 i found are CJ or CK depending on how it wants us to read it

[dense egret]

The two digits u know the position? Or is just first 2?

[cobalt halo]

i just know those 2. they happen back to back so i think these 2 are in sequence

[alpine nexus]

You could brute force the password pretty quickly probably

if you knew how to do that

[cobalt halo]

there is still a TON of combos

and im more curious as to where the rest of the code is

[tawdry kestrel]

What code?

[cobalt halo]

#halo-the-series-announcements

on the site there is a password field to unlock the episode 2 teaser

[tawdry kestrel]

Gotcha, thanks

[cobalt halo]

yep

[bleak pelican]

Someone really edited the helmet off scene to do what happens in CE and I'm loving it

[alpine nexus]

Thats the canon version

[spring gale]

whats the code #halo-the-series-announcements \

[cobalt halo]

i found part of it in the show https://imgur.com/a/EJSGar0

but couldnt find the rest

no one has solved it yet

[spring gale]

oo alright nice nice

im considering staying up all night just to investigate

i mean by the time i would wake up im assuming it would all be leaked

[cobalt halo]

i spent about 3 hours and only found 2 of 6. checked the episode fully. trailers, promo art...

[spring gale]

do you think they would go as far as to like actually hide things, like engrave the code into a wall for a second?

BIGHEAD youve been typing for the past hour are you alive?

[cobalt halo]

could be

i tried looking at all the computers panels and screens.

found those 2 that halsey specifically touched

nothing before or after that

[spring gale]

did you check the one where margret walks in closely? i feel like they would sneak it in somewhere there

[mystic spoke]

This show isn't a separate "timeline" in the Halo universe, it's an alternate universe that is based on the Halo franchise. This series can't expand on the Halo universe because it isn't in it. This gives creative freedom to explore different stories that are somewhat based on the Halo universe without worrying about retconning anything or having to follow any specific preconceptions.

That being the case, this isn't "Halo"/"Halo: The Series". This would be more appropriately titled "A Halo Story". It needs to be clear that this media isn't set in the existing Halo universe and that no other medium will correspond to the same characters, plot, timeline, or ideas that are in this show. For the most part, all previous games, books, and other official media are in a separate universe (albeit with some artistic freedoms/differences).

With all of that, this isn't a show I have any interest in. Personally, I may watch some clips of scenes that interest me on YouTube or somewhere, but a fan of the Halo universe has nothing to gain or lose by watching this series. This series is irrelevant to the cannon, doesn't envision any past in-universe content, and has no bearing to future in-universe content.

[spring gale]

do your fingers hurt

[cobalt halo]

i checked all i could think of. The only one i saw that might be it. is my second time stamp at 27:42 she clicks like 5 times but only the one ever highlights. and you cant see which ones she touched.

[mystic spoke]

na, all good

[spring gale]

good, lowkey thought you like had a heart attack at the keyboard

[spring gale]

if the codes were in order to the panel in the show it would be much more clear and easier

[mystic spoke]

lol, yeah, took a bit, got a bit distracted while typing it out

[spring gale]

oh okay lol

good point tho they shouldve made the series canon

not what happened in halo infinite, they shoulve picked it up from like Halo 5

[mystic spoke]

there's so many open points in the Halo timeline that have canon lore that haven't been given large media presence, and is sad this series just turned away from all of those opportunities

[rotund hamlet]

I have never seen a fanbase wanting to hate this series from the first episode right off the bat

[timid ether]

Facts

[rotund hamlet]

The problem is, the further you progressed in the canon, you'd have to acknowledge controversial story decisions and try to come up with really good explanations for some contrived elements of the series' plot.

99% of the Halo fanbase would be turned off by a whole season covering the Created War.

[paper panther]

true. also if they genuinely tried to just make the games into a show people would be even more angry that its not "100 percent lore accurate"

[rotund hamlet]

With a separate universe with a blank slate writers and fans don't have to worry about those elements

[rotund hamlet]

I would be miffed if the Flood was reduced to generic Necromorph-like zombies instead of being, well, in their name, a FLOOD.

That is my biggest concern right now - how the series is inevitably going to handle them

[timid ether]

So far all of the Ips that tried full on 1:1 copy's to other media failed hard.

[paper panther]

plus i think the show already continues with core themes from the game regardless. its not like its the opposite of halo lmao

[timid ether]

It's not like a Halo: what if. The same but different

[rotund hamlet]

Master chief design ranking:

1. TV Show
2. Infinite
3. Halo 4/5

[minor shoal]

tv show has halo 2 vibes

[timid ether]

Get og halo between infinite and 4/5 and we good

[minor shoal]

suit design

[dusk flare]

I shall find a series that derives the majority of its notoriety from a long line of popular video games. I shall now create a TV series, without consulting any focus groups, fans, or games them selves. I shall now be confused when the ratings tank. They even forgot to paint the plasma pistol when she was tossing it on the ground. hahaha so much for 90 mil

[little anvil]

Numbers been wrong for 3 weeks mate.

[dusk flare]

You are correct, the clear presentation of every single user and critic review, through 7 plus reputable long standing review sites, are infact incorrect

unlikely

[little anvil]

Budget wasnt 90 million. I dont think we know.
Also, critics are unreliable and always have been.
Question is; do you enjoy it.

If yes, good.
If not? Watch something else.

End of story. Nothing more nothing less.

[thin smelt]

How violent is the series?

[little anvil]

Gloriously

[thin smelt]

Like doom violent?

[little anvil]

Pretty close to.

[dusk flare]

See that's kind of like not the point. A lot of people have played this series for a long time, and it could be argued that the only reason such a series was adapted for TV is they know how many people love Halo. Cutting corners and almost deliberately making decisions against the wishes of the core fanbase isn't just a "if you dont like it dont watch it" deal. It means halo as a whole has taken a hit, and more than likely wont ever receive any further adaptations, TV or otherwise. The issues raised by fans are numerous to boot, ranging from poor acting and pathetic CGI for such a large company, to astonishingly simple things like a Chevy centuries in the future or just not animating weapons for entire scenes. For long standing fans, its anything but "if you dont like it, dont watch it"

[rotund hamlet]

Can you point on the doll where Halo: the Series hit you?

[viral fern]

People outside the US that watch it with the VPN, paramoutplus asks you for a US address, what did you enter?

[little anvil]

If this is the legitimate end of all Halo adaptations I will be VERY surprised.

[tawdry kestrel]

In which way

[timid ether]

I will not say don't watch it on Paramount+

[little anvil]

Im just gonna let Halo Canon handle the watching and breakdowns, thats all I need

[timid ether]

Halo canon did do a pretty neat breakdown

[little anvil]

I liked his beter than HiddeneXperia's. Feels more...focused.

But then Experia has always been more emotionally driven and bombastic, which is fine.

[timid ether]

I second that

[rotund hamlet]

HiddenXperia when he is grounded from using the word ICONIC by his dad:
🤯

[timid ether]

He can't live without that word.

[little anvil]

Or mentioning the Flood.
But I digress

[viral fern]

how did you watch it?

[little anvil]

I'll probably wait till it comes out on DVD or something.

[rotund hamlet]

A Halo 4-man co-op shooter game where you play as the AU counterpart versions of the four biggest Halo youtubers who are fighting for their lives against the Covenant invasion in their neighborhood

[timid ether]

DM

[little anvil]

Okay honestly that sounds kinda fun.

[rotund hamlet]

It's part personality deconstruction and part parody.

[timid ether]

Who are the 4 YouTubers then. Uber, hx, canon and rocket sloth or late night

Or someone else?

[little anvil]

Nah, Canon, Instillation 00, HX and HaloFollower XD

[timid ether]

Oh yeah i see that

[summer hearth]

Thx

[uneven stratus]

1. Poor acting is a valid criticism, but the show really isn't that terrible on the acting front. Not oscar-worthy, not razzy-worthy.

2. Pathetic CGI is a budgeting thing. The effects get the point across and are meh, but still not garbage.

3. A Chevy isn't really a hill to die on. There's like 5 flavors of human ground vehicles. That would be boring to look at and would create 0 differentiation. Cars are pretty efficiently designed these days, don't need to get all wild with the design for no reason.

4. I barely noticed weapon issues. Mistakes like that happen all the time in media. There's a literal paper coffee cup in a shot of Game of Thrones.

The show took various things from the lore and remixed em, show Chief is even closer to book Chief

Game Chief is barely a character

[dusk flare]

lol the Mandalorian had a budget of 100 Mil for season 1, Halo the series had 200 million. i previously thought they had 90 LOL

[little anvil]

The weapon issues arent even all that bad, the lore side of the fandom (and IRL gun nerds) are chopping that to bits as we speak.

Again, 200 million is wrong.

[dusk flare]

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/mar/24/halo-review-hit-sci-fi-game-tv-series

[little anvil]

Sos 90.
Try close to 40 IF THAT.

[dusk flare]

200+

[little anvil]

The article doesnt mention the number, its just in the title.
Unless its under the whole "remove your adblock" blurb

[dusk flare]

They sr8 didnt animate the plasma pistol when kai dropped it, how do you miss something like that in post?

They do indeed go on in detail about the budget

[uneven stratus]

200m isn't that much money stretched across 9 hours of content

[little anvil]

And god knows how many rewrites.

If its 200 TOTAL, over the various redos, dead ends, and however many attempts they had of it over the last 10 years thats not really all that impressive.

[dusk flare]

Again, i would agree, except the competing Series from disney made much better marks with its first series and with half the budget :/

[little anvil]

See again, District 9.

[uneven stratus]

How exactly is the Mandalorian competing with Halo lmao

"They both have helmets"

[little anvil]

Also, Mando and Halo arent competeing.
Mando's aimed at the soft, weak fleshlings who like Disney Star Wars.
Halo fans savage them on a weekly basis.

Different audiences, different targets. Differnt requirements.

On that subject I want a one-episode crossover between the two now that literally boils down to Silver team leaving a trail of bodies so high you need a shovel loader to move em.

40 minutes of undiluted Spartan SLAUGHTER

[uneven stratus]

Mandalorian has a smaller cast in the first season, much much more shots of nature (so less set design), and is shorter. Half the episodes of Mandalorian season one are barely 30 minutes long

[little anvil]

It was mostly just Din himself plus Grogu for a lot yeah?

[dusk flare]

The wiki claims 90 mil, so i dont know where both get their totals from

[uneven stratus]

Two episodes of the Mandalorian barely have special effects

[uneven stratus]

yeah

[little anvil]

Almost everythings done practically using props Disney requisitioned from Lucasfilms warehouse

[uneven stratus]

I mean, prequels aside, Star Wars is surprisingly limited in its effects scope

[dusk flare]

Alot of that armor wasent just sitting around, they have the ability to make things that would usually be redicilous to cast in full metal, still seem lifelike, as opposed to spartan glorious in their plastic undaroos

[uneven stratus]

Uh

You actually think Din's armor is made of metal?

[dusk flare]

I know it isint, but it looks much much better than what we got

From how it hangs off their body suits to how it moves around, theres no doubt the meticulous nature of the costume design is unmatched compared to paramounts job

[uneven stratus]

Your gripe is with the skinsuits? That's kind of a far reach my guy. Din's "undersuit" was basically thrift store handmedowns

[little anvil]

So were other bits of his costume as they saw fit. not entirely uncommon for costumery

[dusk flare]

i said how the armor hangs off the skisuit, reach your self much?

[little anvil]

Actually of interesting note; Kelly's armor in FuD is a modified version of Kats from Deliver Hope. You can see one of Kat's kneepads on Kellys helmet.

[uneven stratus]

"plastic underoos" <= point in fact

[dusk flare]

i dont have to prove to you this series is tanking so far in ratings and in viewership my dude. If they didn't want to take the necessary steps to ensure quality, they will pay for it in the pocket. ez pz

[little anvil]

It'll make a profit and thats all they care about, nothing more.
More importantly it'll fuel an additional angle for Halo lore nerds, which will open a new front with which to crush the last remains of the lesser series that think they can stand before its might.

That and of course using it as reference for plasma damage is nice, since I can now 100% shut up those Star Wars nerds who think blaster bolts are more effective than plasma.

Lol sorry bro, most blasters dont make peoples limbs explode

[timid ether]

"In its first 24 hours online, the first episode of video game adaptation Halo broke Paramount+’s record as the most-watched original series premiere worldwide.".... Tanking in viewership huh

[little anvil]

To play devils advocate thats only among Paramount+ series, but thats still an accomplishment.
I have no doubt theres a LOT of free trials going on right now though, hehe.

[timid ether]

Yeah. And i don't think they count in other streaming services in countries where Paramount+ is not yet a thing

Like f.e. sky in Germany who streams it

[uneven stratus]

lol to this take

[little anvil]

And who knows how many people are piggybacking on their friends accounts, or are doing it other ways.

I, for example, havent fully seen the episode, I just watched Halo Canons lore breakdown.

[uneven stratus]

"one episode has been released, some hyper nerds are mad, ratings finna tank"

[little anvil]

I'll watch it EVENTUALLY but that requires going to my friends house who has Paramount+ and thats more difficult due to work schedules.
It will be done.

Honestly, the moment the hyper nerds are quiet and happy is the moment I get real, real worried

[uneven stratus]

All my fellow hardcore lore nerds I know irl that ate up every book and side content seem to be into the show, which makes me happy. I had fun with the episode, had some gripes/critiques, but nothing deal-breaking

[timid ether]

Just give me lore and I'm happy. Don't care to what timeline the lore belongs. Just give me lore and i feed on it

[uneven stratus]

Ok, random snark, it was very entertaining to see someone rant about Pelicans not being interstellar vehicles, only for my inner nerd to remind them that Condors are actually a thing in the lore

[timid ether]

Condors are just better

[uneven stratus]

cries that Echo-419 never got to fly one

[little anvil]

Rowly deserved better.

Hilariously the vessel Silver uses is VERY OBVIOUSLY A CONDOR

Though its the superior "single cockpit" model rather than the slightly less cool H4/5 era double cockpit.

[timid ether]

Oh yeah. They didn't seem as long but def Condor's

[little anvil]

The engine nacells are different too.

[timid ether]

But they were recognizable

[little anvil]

Very much so, for those willing to pay attention.

If nothing else, the series is doing a fantastic job of sifting the lore fans from the "lore" fans.

[timid ether]

Haha

[uneven stratus]

Imagine a whole episode dedicated to the Forerunner Saga and game nerds being confused why humans were fighting Forerunners back then

[little anvil]

Dont get my hopes up man, I can only smile so much.

[timid ether]

And more backstory of the primordial

[little anvil]

Dude could you imagine a live action scene of the Didact and the Primordial like at the end of Primordium?!

Just watching the thing AGE, disintigrate before our eyes in a hail of time-bursts...

[timid ether]

Likely will never happen but damn i want that

[little anvil]

If nothing else, this series opens up possibilities for more.

[uneven stratus]

Brb, changing pants out of excitement

[little anvil]

Bruh XD

[stiff wagon]

will this be available on other streaming services?

[neon plover]

Unlikely

[wary sand]

The person they got to play Halsey actually is believable as a young Doctor Halsey, the only difference is that her hair is blonde instead of brown

[dense egret]

Passcode news?

[dense egret]

Now tv, sky online on italy idk for other place

[winter cipher]

Y he take off helmet, they should've done a CE

[wary sand]

No, they really shouldn't have

His head would have to be tiny to fit two full sized helmets

[dense egret]

@feral remnant sorry for ping... Look up

[wary sand]

They spammed a few channels with this

[dense egret]

I've see this 'cause i wait for news into passcode for ester egg

[wraith socket]

Young? Bruh she's 52 lol

[wary sand]

Younger

[dense egret]

Lmao

[slate isle]

What plata forms can you get paramount+ because I have an Xbox one s and I really want to watch the new halo series? Sorry if I have bad grammar or bad English

[white flicker]

That’s why master chief on da soda

[sterile epoch]

Me when the halo series isn't just the cutscenes of the games😡😡😡😡

[stiff wagon]

:((

[woeful vector]

Looking up halo movies and getting halo 2 anniversary cutscenes

[sand sand]

give passcode pls

[pine badger]

Who thinks it would have been better just to make a series about 1337

[idle onyx]

I watch Paramount+ on my Xbox!

[peak vigil]

ok it wasnt that bad

this show is actually pretty enjoyable so far

[mortal plaza]

I’ve watched it twice and I like it! Love how the Spartans are all unique like the games and have their own special skills

[woven vector]

I wish they could've done both, I'm happy with what he have so far, but it would be nice.to have a series about spartan 1337

[plucky mauve]

Hmm

[keen bane]

I enjoyed ep 1. I heard ep 2 is "filler" but personally I don't mind

If we can just get more character about...well character's

I be happy

[balmy maple]

Why does Plasma Pistol have missing texture?

[runic wind]

Because it’s only seen for a second

No point putting time and money into something barely seen

[balmy maple]

That's some bad excuse tbh

[runic wind]

How so?

[balmy maple]

It's more than one frame man, and if they could make it good in every other frame why did they mess that up? Like they said, im not paid enough, ig I'll not do it

Also why did they focus on ar when cgi looked bad? While they could have rather left off screen

Were they flexing bad cgi?

[runic wind]

Even then; why whine about that, it’s simply insignificant

[little anvil]

Not in this canon shes not apparently

[crisp hound]

Even though it’s a small detail, it’s still a pretty noticeable mistake and gives people more reason to criticize the show

There’s no reason it shouldn’t be addressed

[runic wind]

Cause who really cares though? There are better things to discuss than a low detail prop

[urban sparrow]

I didn't even notice it until someone pointed it out and I watched it twice before that lol

[crisp hound]

It’s not just low detail, you can literally see an unpainted plasma pistol

[runic wind]

For literally one short second

[crisp hound]

That doesn’t excuse it from being addressed and criticized

[runic wind]

Of course but why?

[crisp hound]

Because it’s a clear mistake that many people have noticed and looks very unprofessional

[runic wind]

It’s level of detail, why dedicate time and money for a prop used super briefly?

[little anvil]

They're gonna complain about everything, add it to the list.
Alongside the "woke" complaints, the "its not canon", the "three repeated out of context quotes from tweets" and the "these characters shouldnt be like this!" gripes.

Honestly I'd prefer they complain about the uncolored plasma pistol than hear that "the protagonist is a girl!" again.

[runic wind]

It isn’t complaining at this point, it’s just whining

[crisp hound]

I think an unpainted prop in a scene is a much more legitimate complaint than “girl protagonist”

[little anvil]

It very much is. Hence why I prefer it.

[runic wind]

Obviously

[solemn basalt]

Only part of the show that's good imo is the showing of the covvies as scary and deadly. Imo if you were to rename every character to be a non existing character it would be better

Like if the show followed a previously unmentioned Spartan team named Silver team, then it could probably even fit in with established lore

Besides Cortana and the "keyes" family

[boreal swallow]

I honestly enjoyed the first episode. I'm taking the "silver timeline" quote seriously and treating this as a divergence from the Canon story. As an establishing episode, it's good, and I can't wait to see more.

[woven vector]

They have a 10,000,000 dollar budget per episode, so some stuff is expected to look sloppy

[woven vector]

Speaking of the whole "woke" thing, typically shows usually get too involved with politics, the halo show is one of the few that won't be involved with it and hopefully it stays that way, politics ruins thing

[tawdry kestrel]

Just watched the first episode and I have to say my teen memories playing halo got me hyped up just watching each second. Great episode!

[woven vector]

Can't wait to see what happens on episode 2 when it comes out April 1st

[tawdry kestrel]

I take it people are talking about how bad the episode is from a budget stand point with cgi and whatnot? Sorry didn't read too far back with the conversation.

[timid ether]

It is. But i watched it 4 times and did not notice one until someone pointed it out. A lot of shows have small "issues" like that. Like cups on set or Handys where there shouldn't be some. Sometimes even staff or whole camera equipment and rigs shows. I think half a second of a prop is not a big deal

[tawdry kestrel]

I think once people start to point out the small issues like this showing on camera the more people find the episode or film ruined and don't enjoy the moment of just watching the film or show. That is why I do not listen to stuff like this because then my mind focuses too much on what was accidently put into the scene rather than enjoying the moment of a great work of art a scene or episode or film was brought together.

[little anvil]

I mean, technically there's politics...mainly the interworkings of the Covenant, and the UNSC/Innie dynamic.
But those arent related to the real world like...AT ALL (except in the barest of contexts ie; "humans are always fighting each other no matter what")

Nothing like what a lot of people are screaming about. Look close enough and you see their own bias leaking out to spread over the show. No evidence to support it half the time.

[little anvil]

If I remember right theres a scene either in Boba Fett or Mando where, for a good like 30 seconds, you can see the camera crew reflected in his visor.

[woven vector]

I'm talking about directors pushing their political beliefs and ideologies I to shows, halo itself is a heavily political series

[little anvil]

Ohhhh.
Okay then, yeah, I dont see any of that in the show yet.

Just the existing political climate via the lore.

Which is good because I love the political interplay of the Innies and the UNSC, and of course the machinations of the Covenant.

[idle pawn]

I mean the whole thing between UNSC & Insurrectionists is politics. But I get what you mean.

[woven vector]

Halo is supposed to be partially political

But bring your own politics in a show will ruin it

[little anvil]

Any good sci-fi is to a certain extent.
Looking at you, BattleTech XD

[woven vector]

Really quick, what it looks like they're doing with kwan kinda has me happy, from the looks she isn't gonna be "the weak character who eventually becomes stronger than everyone else" cliche, I stead she'll be more like "brohammer" from infinite where she's one of the main characters who is just trying to survive

[vale cradle]

Every show is going have politics

That’s literally what makes a organized human race or civilization

[woven vector]

The kind of politics that I want to see in a show isn't your typical red vs blue politics, what should he allowed (I'm using halo as an example) the whole UNSC and insurrectionist battle

[little spindle]

I think I get what you mean and can agree to an extent

[vale cradle]

I mean comparing red vs blue is extra . Americans aren’t killing each other so idk

What u mean by that

@woven vector

and they don’t kidnap children

[little anvil]

The human element and anchor for Chief yes

[little spindle]

I think he means the respective colors of the American political parties but i could be wrong.

[hidden magnet]

Hopefully we can figure this password out before Thursday

[vale cradle]

Lol

[woven vector]

You're correct

[woven vector]

The password is "password"

[void swan]

Ask the team for a hint

[wary moon]

did the actor say something about his mobility in the suit?

seems to me its not very comfy

[latent yoke]

just finished watching the first episode and these are my thoughts
https://i.imgur.com/fGSIG1v.jpg

[tawdry kestrel]

sus link

oh my-

[little spindle]

Now watch them bring back Johnson as a guy who looks like Keyes lol

Keyes in the games btw

[tawdry kestrel]

a white johnson oh no

don't spoil that beautiful black man

[little spindle]

😩

Imagine they make him white tho lol

[tawdry kestrel]

lol i'd cry

[little spindle]

😆

[native minnow]

do you guys think Kwan will become Spartan?

[tawdry kestrel]

oh god no

please don't speak of such heresy

[native minnow]

the actress kinda cute but but the stupid haircut tho i cant

[tawdry kestrel]

not another buck... but worse...

[little spindle]

Yeah not everyone should be a Spartan

[rotund hamlet]

If these detractors had their way, the series would be a slow-paced slog with bursts of very brief action scenes filled with offscreen, obscured Covenant "for the sake of m y s t e r y"

[little spindle]

Can we talk about that shot where chief just stands there on top of that vehicle and takes a bunch of hits

[tawdry kestrel]

yes

also can we talk about how that elite gunned down a group of small children

[little spindle]

Seems so funky to have a human in the covenant man

[tawdry kestrel]

^

the human covenant person is a bad idea and a replacement for the arbiter and i wanna cry

[little spindle]

I wanna see how It plays out, but it just seems wrong

[little spindle]

😩

[rotund hamlet]

If you parallel her character to Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite (minus the idea of her being a successor) it makes total sense

[little spindle]

I'm unfamiliar with Bioshock

[crisp hound]

Did two episodes release already or just the first one

[tawdry kestrel]

ohhh i have an idea, maybe she was taken in by the covenant because her nervous system is screwed up like johnson's and thats why they took her in: to study her. Also that'd explain why she's walking by all those flood looking tentacle things in that one trailer scene

because flood don't infect people with odd nervous systems and that's why they think she's holy because the flood don't attack her

big brain moment

[little spindle]

Perhaps

[rotund hamlet]

Woman that grows up in isolation with a special power [Elizabeth = universe portals] [Makee = Mgalekgolo hunter worms that bonded with her]
Woman is used as a means to an end by her captors [Elizabeth = Succeeding Comstock as ruler to fulfil prophesy] [Makee = Used as a key to activate forerunner objects]
Woman busted out [Elizabeth = Yes] [Maybe Makee but who knows]

[little spindle]

Ah thanks for clarifying. Yeah that's possible

[tawdry kestrel]

i've never played bioshock but i watched my brother play it and that stuff freaked me out at a young age

creepy little girls and stuff

[wary sand]

The dmr is the best automatic weapon in halo

[gaunt harbor]

In lore it is automatic. The reach weapon model has a slider for automatic

[rotund hamlet]

Nobody would pick up anything else if it was full auto

[wary sand]

I know that, it just feels super weird that they fire it and it isn't in bursts

[little anvil]

And entire sections of the books recreated word for word on screen. Or some ungodly attempt at "canonizing" sections of the games

[rotund hamlet]

Halo fans be Zack Snyder with Watchmen

[little anvil]

I mean, yeah.
To play devils advocate, from what I remember the Watchmen movie was pretty well liked.

[rotund hamlet]

A lot of the storytelling conventions were left out since Watchmen was not designed to be an adaptable work - that would be like trying to put a complete playthrough of Batman Arkham into a theater clocking at a 30 hour runtime.

BUT the ending of the movie is an improvement over the Squid ending

[little anvil]

True.
Presumably that issue with adaptation is why they went with what they did (among othe reasons)

[rotund hamlet]

I hate to say this, but I want to see a "If Halo stans made the TV show" parody.

Because a lot of the blowback is completely bizzare

And you're hearing this from someone who didn't like how the media took dumps on TLJ critics

[little anvil]

It would be most amusing to say the very least.
Since much of the blowback is wild, varied, and from multiple angles, yet also has certain origin poitns and just ends up getting repeated ad-infinitum.

[tawdry kestrel]

i kinda wish they made a canon show

not an alt. reality

[little anvil]

All male cast with nothing but white guys in every role, Chief never takes of his helmet but is also the only Spartan in the show and the CGI is basically 80% of it and it eats 95% of the budget.

...
You know I realized I basically described a Gears of War game almost.

[tawdry kestrel]

no one wants all male cast and white people bro we want johnson he's black

[little anvil]

Tell that to some of the complainers.

[tawdry kestrel]

Sergeant Avery Johnson 😢

also i applaud 343 for calling that spartan training center the Avery Johnson foundation

[dreamy thicket]

Don’t mind me just in the middle of the best show rn. (First time watching)

[tawdry kestrel]

i could kiss joe on the lips for that one

[tawdry kestrel]

let me guess.. psych?

[dreamy thicket]

No the halo show

[tawdry kestrel]

cause while the halo series is alright it's definitely not "the best show"

[gaunt harbor]

Lmao true

[dreamy thicket]

Not saying it as a fact but opinion

[little anvil]

Avery J Johnson Academy of Military Sciences acdtually

Presumably similar to the Corbulo Academy of Military Sciences from FuD

[tawdry kestrel]

yeah i didn't know the exact name of it so i just called it the avery johnson foundation

[regal echo]

I’ll watch it, if it has a better story

White Johnson would be weird af though

[little spindle]

Who unironically wants this

White guy cortana 😆

[urban sparrow]

Cortano

[keen sail]

Swap you black Keyes for white Johnson

[little spindle]

Yessssss
That's what I said earlier lol

[little anvil]

Its turned certain fans inside out

[rotund hamlet]

Oh and the CG animation is really REALLY poor

Like so much effort being put into "s u b t l e t y" and "n u a n c e" that everyone moves like robots

[deft fossil]

honestly, as expected its 90% cgi, barely a story, and just bad lol. i hoped they would have sonic'd this show when the trailers came out. but i guess mediocracy for a short term payout was expected.

[wary sand]

Why are the honor guards just normal elites with big sticks

[queen pike]

That variation of Honor Guard has been seen in the original timeline in Halo Wars

[steel marsh]

I still love this show. I kinda like the fact i get to be the contrarian about liking it. XD

[wary sand]

I don't remember honor guards being in halo wars

[neon plover]

https://youtu.be/VkFj1JtZAyk?t=55

[steel marsh]

@wary sand never played it. Only played 1,2,3,reach,4, and infinite.

[neon plover]

These were Honor Guards

[steel marsh]

I love halo, but im more a movie guy.

I just know covenant as bad guy aliens

And unsc as good guy soldiers.

Basic stuff

[wary sand]

The flood as nightmare fuel

[steel marsh]

Imagine neil blomkamp as the new showrunner

[wary sand]

Why no 5?

And wars 2 was the first one with the banished

Why were they muted?

[hexed peak]

To pull a “sonic movie” level rework would have taken far too much time and money.
In all honesty, though, most of the worse shots weren’t shown in the trailer, so there really wasn’t any reason for a visual outcry from the fans at that time.

Ya know... I wonder how well this show is doing in the Chinese market. They have less expectations for CGI, and subtitles usually makes bad or middling acting less apparent since you’re reading more than you’re listening.

If it does very well there, we could expect to see more than 2 seasons

[keen sail]

Too much blood for China

[hexed peak]

Ah, I completely forgot about the show’s gore

My bad

If there’s one positive I give the show, it is the gore. It takes me back to the Combat Evolved days.

[muted osprey]

I don’t have paramount so can someone tell me what the tv show is about
Like does it take place during one of the games?

[urban sparrow]

yeah I totally remember children getting obliterated and limbs shot off in CE. Blowing off the head of elites was great in CE

[glacial ridge]

bro I saw cortana as an easter egg in the show

she was wearning a white coat and talked weird

[hexed peak]

lol. But you can’t deny that the blood splatters were huge.

[glacial ridge]

almost british

[latent yoke]

definitely british

[gaunt harbor]

They were very tame though

[little spindle]

CE was pretty bloody

Also there's literally a mutilated elite in 343 guilty spark. Plus the flood...

[celest elbow]

Any news about the code to the Website?

[wraith socket]

The visual storytelling with blood splatter in 343 Guilty Spark was chefs kiss. The show can have gore, but they toned down Infinite to be rated T to "appeal to a wider market"? Microsoft and 343 have no bloody idea what they're doing, and it really shows lol

[little spindle]

I agree with most of this^

True but remember, Halo used to be M

But that aside, I see your point.

I just want goofy blood splatters

The show I'm ok with it being gory. Its a show after all

[agile zenith]

When's episode 2 supposed to drop?

Thanks, Phoenix

[real scarab]

When we seeing Jackals eat marines

[deep briar]

It’s after John Halo finds out Halsey killed his parents or w/e, & he gets so mad he has to dance his feelings out in a warehouse

I haven’t seen the script but based on where the show’s headed, it’s a safe bet

[gaunt harbor]

A tame M

[proud tinsel]

Anyone have any idea what the password thingy is I have a feeling it’s connected to the “data flow” and the random moving graphs

[little spindle]

Yea

Still M tho

[proud tinsel]

1100 1010 1000 1001 1111 1100 0101 1111 0001 0100 0101 0111 0000 0110 1100 0010 1010 1111 10100 10100 10101 1010101 101000

God just translated it and it doesn’t mean anything

It’s just a bunch of squares then a U

[edgy summit]

why would they ever reveal Chief's face

[wintry pelican]

They've already have in canon

And described him before the game even came out

[pulsar dune]

Whens the second ep tho

[fresh fog]

next Thuesday

[peak vigil]

books

halo 4 legendary ending

fall of reach

[edgy summit]

none of those count

halo 4 legendary ending was just his eyes

the other ones were child chief

or teen chief

or young adult chief

before he was chief

[cobalt halo]

This is as far as i got. https://imgur.com/a/EJSGar0

Code is in the show seemingly

but i was never able to find anymore parts of the code

[alpine nexus]

what was the website link again?

[cobalt halo]

its in #halo-the-series-announcements

[open herald]

When chief says “you’re banned” and then snaps the elites snack

[idle pawn]

They do, Chief's face was never special, the only reason why his face was never shown in the games because it allowed for the players to self-insert themselves as Master Chief.

Even Joe Staten says this & thinks what the show did was fine.

[hollow forge]

Wait, yoo so in comins or anywhere has his past life been talked about fully or in depth?

Or is it new to to what they're doing for the series?

[deft fossil]

Well there is the problem. They made this with the idea of mediocracy, and what we got is a quick cash grab. Idk why we would want to settle for lazy work. They could have made a mandalorian level good show, they have the resources and backing to do it. When the trailer came out there was enough that you could tell it was just going to be all visuals and no story.

[nimble raft]

Why does chief look like he runs an alpha male podcast

[pine badger]

Because pablo

[quaint moth]

low budget crew

lool

[tawdry kestrel]

Why what captain keys black

Just saying

[urban sparrow]

because they wanted him to be

[near arch]

https://youtu.be/m326LNIRB3k?t=48
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902683526774808576/957648014103679026/maxresdefault.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902683526774808576/957648014418276372/unknown.png

[rotund hamlet]

Am I the only one who doesn't want the arbiter to show up at all, or at least have a different role?

I think his presence in the show could take away the opportunity for the writers to put their own spin on the great schism

[tawdry kestrel]

Nah I hope they do a halo 3 and make them fight the flood together

Doubt it tho considering they didn't even play the games before making the film series

[rotund hamlet]

Stop spreading misinformation

[tawdry kestrel]

Litteraly stop talking

They litteraly said they didn't themselves

[rotund hamlet]

litterally read the rest of the article

[tawdry kestrel]

I did

[idle pawn]

They literally said that was taken out of context & they did in fact play the games.

[rotund hamlet]

litterally you didn't

[spring yew]

i’m actually a bit confused why they casted pablo instead of steve downes

steve downes lowkey looks like master chief in halo 4

[urban sparrow]

https://twitter.com/mrstevenkane/status/1506421683841757189

[rotund hamlet]

Guessing that they wanted to cast him at first but then realized that having a different take would give more flexibility to the writing team.

If Steve Downes' was casted you could never have Chief take off his helmet or steer off the audience expected one-liner man

Think of this like Brad Dourif vs Mark Hamill's takes on Chucky

[spring yew]

i am confused here i’ve only seen mark hamil’s chucky

[rotund hamlet]

The point is if you casted the iconic interpretation people will have expectations on how they act onscreen, which limits the writers

[edgy summit]

then why does he have a name

[rotund hamlet]

Like Imagine if Christian Bale was re-cast as Batman for BvS Dawn of Justice, the audiences that saw the Dark Knight Trilogy would expect his character to remain consistent even though it is an entirely different continuity.

[alpine sundial]

Has anyone found the password yet? https://halotheseries.tv/

[alpine nexus]

Literally what I’ve been saying

[languid brook]

Kinda glad steve downes didn’t get his name besmirched by this dumpster fire

[runic wind]

Steve downes is 71

I don’t think it would work too well

[spring yew]

true this lol

[spring yew]

^

i did very much like the action scenes in this one tho

[little anvil]

Same deal with Rookie and Noble Six

[little anvil]

Cept Mando was pretty mid to begin with cause, you know, its Star Wars.
And they ripped the Mandolorians fangs out when Disney bought them and rapidly buried the "warforged unstoppable monstrosity with honor" that they had going for em.

Least here, the Spartans are as lethal as they should be.

[minor shoal]

most people with the argument of hating the face reveal, never even thought of that

[hexed peak]

Feels like they put in an effort equal to Halo Infinite.

[alpine nexus]

Mandalorian was a 10/10 show for me

[hexed peak]

I can’t give Mando a 10 because of too much fanservice reliance, But I do definitely score it highly.

Visually, Mando looks like a movie each episode

[alpine nexus]

It’s insanely high quality CGI

Unfortunate that the halo TV show looks like a fan film so far

[hexed peak]

And they chose the perfect studio to record in, too. They had circular TVs surrounding the set so Mando’s armor would reflect the environment in real time.

[alpine nexus]

My biggest gripe with it is probably that whenever Mando is in a fight, every bullet hits him because he’s the one in the indestructible armor.

[hexed peak]

I mean, I think it’s better to make use of that armor rather than everyone missing. The world of bounty-hunting is probably far more skilled than the cheap and replaceable storm troopers, so it also makes sense for the shots to land.

[alpine nexus]

In the scene where boba fett shows up and they fight stormtroopers, Fennec and Mando are back to back fighting them. Mando gets hit dozens of times, Fennec doesn’t get hit at all. It’s just so cheezy

[minor shoal]

Mando took no time to appreciate the durasteel version, just straight to beskar which imo looks so tacky compared to the cool durasteel armor

[alpine nexus]

Beskar looks better

[hexed peak]

Yeah, you’re right about the cheesiness in Mando.

[little anvil]

Beskar itself is such a stupid material anyway.
"Massively reflective", as if HIGHLY BURNISHED DURASTEEL wouldnt do the same thing.

Not that I havent posulated the idea of beskar-bonded Titanium-A for MJLONIR suits because that is a terrifying possibility

Mando got lucky too cause they weren't filiming during the pandemic.

[hexed peak]

Mmhm

I guess you could say it’s... plot armor

[little anvil]

Yes, actually.

Legends had more stuff for it (it was just a reflective material and lightsaber resistant alongside frik and cortosis)

[timber crest]

hi guys

[blazing notch]

Am I the only one who's disappointed in who they got as Chief?

[timid ether]

mostly yes

[little anvil]

Legitimacy of most of those complaints are shaky at best as well.

Lot of anger aimed everywhere but the origin point of it is usually a larger social media personality's thoughts or opinons repeated adinfinitum.

[blazing notch]

Like this guy just doesn't have any thing about him that makes me believe he's THE Master Chief

I kinda wish they would've cast someone like John Bernthal

[timid ether]

never heard that name, what did he play in so far?

[hollow bridge]

lmao, really enjoying the first episode so far. The plasma pistol part is so fast you would barely notice

watching with my family. gonna see what they, as non halo fans, think

the armor looks great

[timid ether]

would love that spartan armors in infinite

[little anvil]

Silver armor core really just makes too much bloody sense.

[blazing notch]

He played Frank Castle in The Punisher, and he played the main antagonist in Ghost Recon: Breakpoint

[blazing notch]

I love how brutal they are ngl

[hollow bridge]

loving the show so far

[timid ether]

ah got ya. never played the game or wtached the show. i wanted to watch it recently but its not on any streaming service rn. and i didnt watch it when it released because it wasnt with thomas jane the og punisher.
Still think pablo did a great job. (its okay not liking him tho)

[hollow bridge]

yeah im liking chief so far

also him taking off his helmet is a clear foil to what the old man was talking about at the beginning

[blazing notch]

Honestly I had extreme reservations about the show prior to watching it but I think I might be wrong about it 😅

Why did they AK-47s tho 😂😂

Have*

[hollow bridge]

because rebels

theyd only have access to civilian weapons id assume

anything we use in the game is military grade it seems

[little anvil]

AKs being literally historic weapons would mean they'd be easy enough to get via "collectors"

Or possibly created wholesale using fabrication equipment. They were intended to be easy to make and rapid to deploy after all.

Considering the presumed intensive construction process that results in something like an MA5 AR, its not too improbable that those AKs were assembled on-planet

Someone finds one in a museum somewhere and either buys or steals it. Field strips it to see how it works. Uploads the descriptions and instructions to Waypoint or the equivilent.
People start making Ghost AKs in their garages to resist the UNSC

[timid ether]

the thing about AKs is. its core weaponsystem is the same over the years. even modern AKs still use the same core system but with different barrels and attachments. even the rather modern AK12 uses the same receiver as the old ones. only how they are produced has changed.

So it makes sense that a modern version of the same weapon type could be used in the future

[vale cradle]

The eagerly-anticipated Halo TV show has reportedly set a new premiere viewership record for Paramount+. Bringing Halo to life as a streaming series has been one of the most rewarding efforts for Paramount+ to date and we could not be more thrilled at the massive fan response to the series' debut," said Tanya Giles, chief programming officer at Paramount+.

[opaque wraith]

Did the passcode get solved?

[dreamy stirrup]

Not sure

[urban sparrow]

not yet IIRC, I've been looking every few hours

[little anvil]

The masses continue to chip away

[stone sky]

My head Canon is in the silver timeline, the closer your colony is to earth or reach, the black market has loads of old weapons and vehicles from earth's past so they just got what was cheapest on the black market and got tons of the old earth gear for that outpost. That's my idea anyways.

[robust marsh]

Is it bad? I haven't had a chance to watch it yet 😬 I've read all the books and have been worried they are going to pull a Halo 5 on me lol

[tawdry kestrel]

There’s one episode out, it’s a 6/10 episode and that must mean the entire series will be bad

/s just in case

[runic wind]

I’ve heard people say this unironically way to much

[little anvil]

Instinctive reactions be like

[timid ether]

its closer to the books then the games. story is captivating. cgi is iffy sometimes. but overall good watch. 7/10 for me. 6/10 is the general consensus so far (except for the loud minority ofc)

[robust marsh]

Good to know! Sounds like its worth giving a chance at least 👍

[timid ether]

surely dosnt hurt. and if its not for you thats fine, nobody is forced to watch

[robust marsh]

True, haha, online culture has made us all a touch over-judgmental

[timid ether]

some of us ^^ maybe a few more then its healthy

[little anvil]

The last two years presumably didnt help.

[tawdry kestrel]

Imho the cgi is the worst part, but I can let that slide

[timid ether]

yeah. sometimes its not even the cgi in itself thats bad, its actually fine for the most part (except this one AR on the ground. f this vfx shot.) i think its a lot because of strange animations that makes it look off. like chief jumping strange or a wierd running cycle.

[tawdry kestrel]

Lmfao ok so I’m not the only one that was thrown off by the AR clipping through the ground

[timid ether]

i dont know what that was. i only know it was painfull

and that shot was totally unnecessary. chief could have just thrown it away off the screen and nobody would have minded that. but then showing it on the ground. in full frame. in that quality. dude

[languid brook]

It’s hot garbage mate. Give it a go but go in with low expectations

[echo shuttle]

The CGI makes it look like a fan film, god I am glad that this is not canon to the game universe

Probably could of used another year of work

[fresh fog]

You mean how they CGIed budget Chief jumping down?

[hexed peak]

Could’ve used better everything

The show just ain’t worth it

[fresh fog]

Plus it wasn't even that big of a jump down, idk why they used CGI for that

[alpine nexus]

Not as useless as the cgi shot of the AR on the ground though

[hasty sedge]

That was pretty hilarious

[nova egret]

For people to say that this is “close to the source material “ is heresy. I couldn’t stand this and I am extremely disappointed

The whole damn show should be “glassed”.

[alpine sundial]

The binary on the website says 1100 1010 1000 1001 1111 1100 0101 1111 0001 0100 0101 0111 0000 0110 1100 0010 1010 1111 10100 10100 10101 101010

Doesnt seem to translate to anything unless I'm missing something

https://halotheseries.tv/img/anim-text.085aad9c.gif

[timid ether]

ever thought about that its not the binary we should be looking at but the lines above and below that looks like morse code (it really looks like morse code but i highly highly highly doubt that it is. that was just a joke)

[keen sail]

Most of the UNSC CGI objects looks decent. The world, animation and covenant stuff is naff.

I don't know if that's just because it's all metal and not exotic materials.

[drifting temple]

Idk how I feel about the show tbh is it cannon?

[keen sail]

The hill/cave on the planet were laughable

[nova egret]

Not even close to canon most of it is made up BS

[timid ether]

no different timeline / universe. like a reimagining. or a halo: what if

[drifting temple]

I was about to say💀 I heard the creators never played a single halo game too😪

[timid ether]

https://twitter.com/mrstevenkane/status/1506421683841757189

wrong. dont listen to clickbait media headlines

[pearl oar]

guys, did you see the video article about 343 industries by Washingtonpost. Its a dev interview. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/sports/launcher/why-halo-infinite-missed-the-xbox-series-x-launch-title-release-date-dev-interview/2022/03/24/c86813f9-ac2d-4c13-9249-7dfef3c0ef20_video.html

[iron jackal]

tldr what's the point

[timid ether]

yes. but what does this has to do with the halo tv series

[iron jackal]

is anyone else worried about the show getting canceled before the two seasons are finished?

[keen sail]

Can't say I'm worried because wouldn't care but I believe season 2 is already greenlit

[timid ether]

no. shows good. has the biggest view numbers on paramount+. dont think they count the 3rd party distributers that stream the series in countries where paramount+ is not a thing. so im hoping we get season 3, 4 and 5

[iron jackal]

lol hopefully so. i guess i didn't consider how new paramount+ is. halo is probably a key part of their customer acquisition

[timid ether]

certainly. they already stated filming of season 2 will start in a timely manner. at least well get that

[alpine sundial]

Also, from this seemingly random characters you can see the words "file" and "server" at one point https://halotheseries.tv/img/anim-data.76e2d663.gif

[timid ether]

you might want to look at the show for clues. there are a few of those symbols already found in that show on a holo keyboard beeing pressed. but only 2 so far.

[alpine sundial]

These right? https://imgur.com/a/EJSGar0

[timid ether]

yeah those

but further has no one come

[alpine sundial]

Is that all anyone has found so far

I see

[timid ether]

a few people say the passcode lead to a episode 2 preview. but i dont know where they got that from. nobody found it so far. seems more liek a stretch

[alpine sundial]

It was posted seemingly officially in #halo-the-series-announcements

[timid ether]

ha. havnt read that part XD just clicked the link ^^

[alpine sundial]

Using inspect element on the passcode shows that the passcode characters are stored as the letters A - O in the passcode test field, so the answer may be something using these letters

[neon plover]

#933834868637454446

[woeful grotto]

0

[fresh fog]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Cowboy Bebop live action show was greenlit for a 2nd season but got canceled before that happened. So the streaming service green lighting a second season before the show even airs doesn't actually guarantee a season 2

[timid ether]

sadly yes. but they were not even concidering starting to make season 2. while season 2 works on halo show is basically at start

[fresh fog]

Still isn't guaranteeing it

[timid ether]

true

[ancient nest]

I'm going to keep watching, and hope it gets better, but I was definitely disappointed with the pilot episode. As many people stated earlier, it is problematic across the board.

[open herald]

They messed up when they decided to at least read the books

U gotta be all in or all out

Commit

Its all about the Mets, baby

[pastel crater]

Love the Mets.

[sharp crown]

So since the show has gore and blood. Can I finally say words that aren't meant for babies?

[timid ether]

Don't think so. Sadly

[neon plover]

The show does not dictate the rules of this Discord, they are separate entities.

[latent yoke]

wake me up when someone figures out the passcode

[tawdry kestrel]

Anyone know why the director never played any halo games or even watched any of what the story is about?

[timid ether]

They did....

[rotund hamlet]

Mods, can there be an enforcement against this claim?

This is getting really agitating after the showrunners debunked it multiple times

[timid ether]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mrstevenkane/status/1506421683841757189

[tawdry kestrel]

Nope, no they didn't. He didn't know John's helmet wasn't ment to come off or a "big deal" y'know? Loads of people are talking about it

[timid ether]

The helmet comes off in the games and the books. And they literally describe how he looks in the books

[alpine nexus]

Hugggeee difference between describing a character and showing them

[tawdry kestrel]

Agreed

[rotund hamlet]

And we've seen a visual of his face in Halo 4 and TfOR animated miniseries

[timid ether]

Yes

[tawdry kestrel]

Chef takes his helmet off in h1 then has it replaced with another helmet. H4 doesn't count we don't talk about that mess 😂

There was no build up to it or anything just simply removes it episode 1 like okay thanks guys

[rotund hamlet]

How reviewers are still describing Master Chief as a "player insert" reminds me of what the general public thinks superman should be despite stubbornly refusing to pick up the actual source material they are in

[timid ether]

Just don't try to argue. They live in their own echo chamber

[tawdry kestrel]

The whole mystery is the thing though

[rotund hamlet]

Chief's character ceased to be a mystery a full month before Combat Evolved came out lol

[tawdry kestrel]

It's like having a pack of cards you all sit at the table and coz you know what all the cards are in the deck the deck is automatically voided... No the whole point is to have people guessing that's why bungee left it up to interpretation they even said that in a h2 Dev video

[timid ether]

It's not a game.

[tawdry kestrel]

So?

[timid ether]

Bruh

[tawdry kestrel]

Mystery always keeps people guessing

What's the chances captain keys gets infected by the flood

[timid ether]

#933834868637454446

[tawdry kestrel]

Wut

How's that a spoiler? I can't predict the future 😂

[fresh fog]

speculation is not spoilers

[tawdry kestrel]

"bruh"

[timid ether]

It's not but deep conversation can lead to those

Or did you never had a discussion before

[tawdry kestrel]

My brain hurts

[fresh fog]

how can they lead to spoilers if none of us knows what happens?

[tawdry kestrel]

Logic 😉

[tawdry kestrel]

I only came to talk and I got him down my throat before I even said more than a few sentences

This is why we can't have nice things 😢

[alpine nexus]

This happened 21 years ago, idk how its a spoiler lmao

[tawdry kestrel]

People must of still not played H1 but read the books about face reveal somehow

[fresh fog]

I'm still under the impression that they didn't read that much of the books or play the games. Kane's tweet just seems like damage controlling a little. The article he referenced came out on the 16th and he didn't reply till the 22nd. If the word got out there and if it was false, don't you think he would be quicker to say it wasn't true?

[tawdry kestrel]

Agreed. If rumours come out 9/10 they have a reason to even if it's right or wrong it must have came from somewhere otherwise it wouldn't have come out and we'd have a bit of a different story imo not that this one is bad it's just different

[fresh fog]

Plus Kane doesn't even have that much experience

[tawdry kestrel]

Very true. I'm hoping there's a lot of Veriaty in what they show like I noticed all we saw so far is elites pretty good though very detail the CGI is awesome

[rotund hamlet]

Maybe Captain Keyes ends up domesticating the gravemind and starting a youtube channel with it, that's the plot twist.

[wraith socket]

It's 100% just damage control. They had absolutely no idea what they were doing, and still don't really. How the actual hell do you do a pre-Reach story and not include Blue or Noble teams? I just don't understand how these people were put in charge. I'm 100% sure that if they asked Neil Blomkamp to come back, he would've done it, and it would've been better than what we got for like half the budget

Why the hell is it so difficult to put a beloved franchise in the hands of people who actually give a damn about said franchise?

[alpine nexus]

💰

[wide surge]

I was wondering about the Noble team when they started talking about reach

[blazing notch]

Tbh I'm actually working on unofficial fan series. Not sure if I'm gonna leave in as a mini book series or if I'm gonna pursue a machinima

The base of the story is basically gonna give lore to the multiplayer aspect (Team Slayer, BTB, Ranked, Etc) of Halo.

Currently I'm only using my characters from my armor cores and I plan to give them personalities and such

[wraith socket]

I don't mean to be "that guy", but isn't there already a series that's been doing that for like 15 years called Red vs Blue?

[blazing notch]

If anyone also has their Spartans and is interested in giving them a story then feel free to hit me because I definitely need more people so I can to the story

[blazing notch]

Very fair, but no this isn't gonna be like red vs blue

RvB was basically a spin off of everything that happening in the main story. My story will have absolutely nothing to do with the main Halo story

My goal is to provide a fun lore to multiplayer while involving the community since we're ignored by everyone else when it comes to something like this

[rotund hamlet]

Even if it’s not rvb “multiplayer lore” is really tired out in both fanfiction and machinina

I can’t count how many times i’ve seen “multiplayer map with spartan OC” stories

[blazing notch]

The reason why they fail is because they try to hard to capture what another show was

[fresh fog]

The show went through a number of directors and they tore up over 200 scripts

[rotund hamlet]

Why the hell is it so difficult to accept that adaptations are inevitably going to be different? What we’re getting is absolutely in-line with the series outside the main games.

[wraith socket]

Except it's not, like even a little. They immediately broke canon by giving MK 6 armour in a pre-Reach timeline lol, plus the ridiculous memory wipe and remote control Condor stuff. It's insultingly bad