halo-the-series-chat

[west pike]

Don't have to look in a garbage can to know what's inside, even if it's super clean and shiny, we all can figure out what's inside.
Now you can look into the show and not actually watch it and have just as valid of an opinion as one who watched every episode.
Twitter doesn't do either tho so you got that right lol

[tight charm]

Aye aye sir

[tight charm]

LOL

Tell em wassup, attorney

https://tenor.com/view/oni-halo-gif-25067733

[carmine ore]

How’s season 2? Worth the watch so far?

[frozen onyx]

I’d say it’s better than season 1 so far

It’s just strange to watch because it’s so different than the lore we’re used to even in small ways.

[magic forge]

Wassup

[tough pulsar]

Im gonna be honest and I hope that someone doesn't kick me or ban me. But I rather have my complaint be noticed than ignored... Halo TV writers... the show could have been so easy to make if you had followed the plot lines of the novels. Here is what potential you guys could have tapped into if you read the novels or played the games. It would have made for a more compelling story in the first season to be about the actual origins of the Master Chief or the Spartan program. In the middle of the season, we could've seen Spartan training, classes, and their first deployments on insurrectionist worlds or bases. Then at the end of the season we see the first contact with the Covenant. And the filler episodes could been about work and lives of notable characters like SGT Johnson, Dr. Halsey, Keyes, Anderson, Kelly, Samuel, Mendez, etc. It would've given us strong attachments to these characters who we adored so much from the games and novels and would have created so much suspense for season 2. I just do not understand the need to deviate from the source material so much. The script was already made. You wanted to create something original from an already great story that stood strongly on its own. But you now got your most loyal fans unfortunately hating this kind of Halo and your direction. However, we got what we got and its decent, but its missing the mark of greatness. We love Halo so much, we grew up with it and it is our child as much as it is yours.

I don't mean to be a downer. I know that there are tons of people who have been hard on you guys. You guys do not deserve hate but constructive feedback. (sometimes the constructive feedback gets lost in the ocean that is toxic feedback) I recognize the love and commitment you guys have put into expanding this IP. I commend you all for hard work you put into it all these years. They definitely do not go unnoticed. As a passionate halo fan, I just want this show to be truly great. I hope that this show can surpass the greatness of game adapted tv shows like Arcane, the Last of Us, and Cyberpunk. You all have the talent and the vigor to do incredible things. Hit the nail hard on this second season guys! I can't wait to enjoy season 2! ❤️
From a genuine and passionate halo fan...

[subtle crystal]

Holy long wall of text

[jovial hedge]

I feel like we are at max consumption for the story of John-117 origins. We don't need another Spartan origin story

They glossed over it in season 1 and that was good enough

[frozen onyx]

If I made a halo show I’d have it start with a similar story of the Spartans upbringing to the original war and then when it gets to the point where Sam dies, John dies instead. Sam ends up leading the Spartan team and follows a similar but not carbon copy of John’s arc from the original lore.

There’s so many cool deviations like that which can be made but still be faithful to the original lore in enough ways where it feels like Halo.

[jovial hedge]

I just hope when Reach gets glassed the Pillar of Autumn is the ship MC is on and we get to see SGT. Johnson

[verbal fox]

I still cannot accept that the standard was not upheld.

[half tangle]

Tbh the first 2 episodes of the new season is disappointing

[subtle crystal]

That's definitely an opinion

[silent sapphire]

It feels more authentic to Halo

Paramount even got the theme song right

[ionic shore]

yall telling me the series is actually good again?

[subtle crystal]

You're gonna have to watch and decide for yourself, but basically

Yep

[spring ether]

https://tenor.com/view/reach-halo-dogtags-remember-gif-27077445

[snow jolt]

Aight so I've been watching the new season of the show

So far it's better than the first season but it still has the same problems as s1

I like twink John Cena Ackerson

[ionic shore]

....does he take the helmet off

[snow jolt]

Hence the same problems as s1

[ionic shore]

[snow jolt]

At least he's wearing underwear this scene

[tawdry kestrel]

season 2 is drastically much better than season 1

but the continuation of makee and kwan is terrible

[snow jolt]

Kwan

Christ

Are they still on about thst

[tawdry kestrel]

Kwan and Makee are basically fillers for episodes. they dont add or contribute anything major to the story their simply npc's

[snow jolt]

And my eyes rolled out of their sockets once I saw makee, AGAIN

[snow jolt]

So is that Spartan reject guy, who I can't even remember the name of

Because he's so important

[tawdry kestrel]

yep sadly, cause he is really cool. i wont deny that much.

[snow jolt]

Also that dialogue between Spartan teams? Wft

[tawdry kestrel]

he has a really cool and calm demeanour when i saw that in the show it felt so out of place because of how poorly the other characters were potrayed.

[snow jolt]

Why are they on the verge of fighting dude what is this

[tawdry kestrel]

i wont say anything on that. if you havent watched the season 2 yet

[subtle crystal]

God forbidden, Spartans talk instead of punching stuff 24/7???

[tawdry kestrel]

"Sir, Permission to express my feelings to the covenant sir 😭 " - Master Cheeks 🏳️‍🌈

[subtle crystal]

you're not gonna believeeee ittttt

Anyway your right to have an opinion and all, of course
But these nitpicks just prove why "hardcore Halo fans" are their own worst enemies

[snow jolt]

I'm not a hardocre fan by any means

[tawdry kestrel]

Chief talks too much (thats probably why people dont listen to him)
chief doesn't get listened to (thats probaby because chief talks too much)

[subtle crystal]

Hardcore fans, fans, what's the difference

[tawdry kestrel]

its like watching a watered down version of halo

it's so washed to the point where its a deep hit for hard fans

i played since combat evolved

[subtle crystal]

Nope, it's just a version of halo

[toxic warren]

So have I and I still enjoyed it quite a lot

[subtle crystal]

Not the direct adapt of the games but a version

At no point they wanted, promised or said to adapt the gamea btw

[tawdry kestrel]

this version lacks the core tensions that the games had

[subtle crystal]

This version never promised to be anything like the games 🤷‍♂️

[toxic warren]

You need to stop looking at it not being a 1:1 with the games lore
It was never trying to be nor intended to be

[tawdry kestrel]

yep but still watching that is terrible

4/10 for me

[subtle crystal]

For you, yep

Not objectively

[tawdry kestrel]

you did ask for a hardcore halo fan opinion :3

im simply giving one

[subtle crystal]

At what point was I asking for a hardcore fan's opinion or any opinion lol?

[tawdry kestrel]

refer to this

also fortnite Master Chief is the better version of halo

[subtle crystal]

Question's still valid, show me where I asked for your hardcore opinion

[tawdry kestrel]

read your sentence :3

[subtle crystal]

Just did
Where have you seen a question mark?

[tawdry kestrel]

lol okay so you're just trying to argue

[subtle crystal]

No, I'm telling you I haven't asked you anything 😂

[tawdry kestrel]

you literally did?

[subtle crystal]

Never have?

[tawdry kestrel]

anyways back to the point Halo has fallen far from grace even with the live show adaptation

[subtle crystal]

All I said was (and I'm gonna translate it so you'll understand more easily) "most complains are nitpicks from crybabies"

[tawdry kestrel]

it's like watching someone walk all over the franchise you love. absolutely terrible

[subtle crystal]

If the situation is that bad why are you still playing and watching?

[toxic warren]

If all you're going to do is trash on things and not offer anything constructive, I think we can end the conversation there

[tawdry kestrel]

i am offering alot of constructive feedback its a shame you dont see it that way 😦

[subtle crystal]

Like I'm all for hearing opinions (even the... less grounded), but according to you the show is bad because "the Spartans were trash talking each other"

Well, you and the guy you agreed with

[tawdry kestrel]

i liked the part where Chief used grapple hook though that was neat

[subtle crystal]

That was neat indeed, as well as the whole training session

[tawdry kestrel]

i wish Master Chief could have more one liners like the video games

[subtle crystal]

You're gonna enjoy the show so much more if you'll stop comparing it instantly to the games, I swear

[blissful yoke]

37 minutes into epsiode one of season two

Really liking it so far 🙌

[slender spear]

Only watched the first episode of season 2, and I already really like this season better than season 1

that's not a dig on season 1 though, it had it's good parts and moments, but it definitely feels they took some of the feedback into season 2

I'm very excited to see where it goes from here

[uneven sphinx]

They added the grappleshot to the chief armor

I see

[uneven sphinx]

Valid

[tawdry kestrel]

The Nubian Ibex can scale an 80-degree slope, over

[dreamy stirrup]

I didn’t get the reference to that

But now that I looked up what it is, I get the joke

Another reason why I love Vannak

[tawdry kestrel]

He is already better than his whole s1 character

Granted he was a brainwashed soldier

But I'm glad to see him get some humanity back

[subtle crystal]

Exactly that, 100%

[idle pawn]

S1 was about him finding his humanity, S2 seems to be Chief finding his own reasons to fight & being a hero rather than as propaganda set by the UNSC.

[spring wolf]

the way i'm kinda viewing it is the games are about john the soldier, and the show is more about john the person. i get why some of the decisions they've made are upsetting to the purists out there, but it is what it is

[verbal fox]

It's not even John. The whiplash of anger I get when I realize this isn't Halo is extreme. So many people still say "well if you forget about the games..."
Yeah sure let me just delete my brain and everything I can enjoy so I can be a zombie.

It hurts

It just hurts

[spring wolf]

that's a tad extreme. obv the source material is important, but you can't view every little thing from the lens of the games. have you read the halo books or are you just pulling from the games?

[verbal fox]

Oh I adore the books

But the usual comment is "forget the games", even though most mean it as "forget the canon."

[spring wolf]

i asked about the books, because even those differ from the games. they fill in alot of holes about chief/cortana that just isn't in the games.

i don't think you should forget the canon, but this show isn't even canon, so i think treating it as such sucks out the potential to enjoy it at all. i still think it's halo, even if they're taking big liberties with john's character

[verbal fox]

Again, it's whiplash. I watched the combat scenes, enjoy it for a split second, but then the realization slams that 1.) This isn't canon and all that entails, 2.) This show prevents anything canon from being made, 3.) It's basically a show with a Halo skin.

If the show continues, it will continue to absorb any and all resources, manpower, and will for the creation of any live action "Halo" product.
Should it flop, it will erase any financial confidence in making a Halo film for the next decade at least.

That thought also hurts.
We could have had Blue Team with Chief again.
We could have had Sgt Johnson motivating them.
So much potential... so much lost.

[spring wolf]

halo as a product/franchise was already on the downward after 343 picked it up

halo4, halo5, and infinite's lackluster attempt at a live service game kept pushing the core audience further away

[spring wolf]

i think that might be the problem. i get being frustrated/hurt that they decided not to go canon with the show, but judging a non-canon show against the canon is a fruitless endeavor in the long run

for what it is, the show is at best a B/C tier scifi show with a "halo skin" as you put it

i for one do appreciate the canon parts they decided to keep, and getting to see the combat sequences in live action scratches that itch for me, even if it isn't perfect

[verbal fox]

I've been more forgiving towards the games. I have issues with each of those titles, but I still played and enjoyed them without any whiplash of anger.

[spring wolf]

because they're canon. my biggest gripe with each of those is they kept chasing after the CoD crowd, and were typically missing features at launch

[idle pawn]

What's keeping the core audience away is the fandom's inflated sense of nostalgia over Bungie's Halo games.

[verbal fox]

Like I appreciate in Halo 5 having Blue Team. It's my favorite part of Halo 5.

[spring wolf]

sure, but there were some huge features missing that also did it

[spring wolf]

same. the canon around blue team is so strong, idk why they didn't use it for the show

[verbal fox]

You answered your own question, lol. The canon is strong.

[spring wolf]

noooooo

i never said the canon wasn't good/strong. my point this whole time has been that judging the show from a canon perspective will prevent you from enjoying the show at all, when it arguably has good parts to it

[verbal fox]

Again, why does there need to be a show then that forces me to purge canon from my mind as a prerequisite for enjoyment?

That is so counterintuitive to being a fan.

[spring wolf]

i've not said that once

[verbal fox]

"Judging the show from a canon perspective."
That is the only Halo perspective I have.

[spring wolf]

that statement of mine does not equate to "forces me to purge the canon from my mind"

[verbal fox]

No, the point of the matter is that because the only perspective I enjoy is Halo (in this instance), it almost like asking me not to breath while walking.
It is Human nature to make comparisons with things. Part of our survival instincts to analyze, compare, and categorize.

[spring wolf]

i'm a pretty big halo fan, and bruh you're sounding dramatic af right now lol

[verbal fox]

Would you tell someone that, in order to enjoy a WW2 film, they need to forget about the history of WW2?

Does that make sense?

[spring wolf]

to be more clear on my take. what i'm meaning by "judging the show from a canon perspective" is that if you're comparing every little detail against the canon, you're just not gonna like it. it's not canon. they've taken liberties with the canon

[spring wolf]

you realize halo is a fictional universe right? that analogy doesn't really work

[verbal fox]

A lot of WW2 films are fictional protrayals of what actually happened, lol

[spring wolf]

you're presupposing with your example that someone would make a non-canon ww2 film, which on it's face is just pretty silly. there are fictional stories about ww2, but those aren't just willy nilly taking random parts of history and creating an original ww2 story lol

[verbal fox]

Uhh, actually, there was this zombie film

[spring wolf]

reaching

[verbal fox]

Overlord, I think

Starts off with the invasion of Normandy before going into the deep end.

[spring wolf]

and the intent of that film is to surely accurately retell the events of ww2, my bad

[verbal fox]

Lol, and one can easily find a more accurate WW2 film, like the Longest Day or a Bridge Too Far...

I guess I can rewatch FUD for the 1000th time, or Landfall for the 10000th time.

[verbal fox]

But to steer us back, yeah... even if I just wave top it: the emotional pellets, Makee, and Kwan, I already despise it.

The everything button that is the Forerunner McGuffin

[spring wolf]

i would have preferred no emotional pellets as well. it kinda paints the spartans as devoid of personality, which is very much not the case

damn i typed out this long message not realizing the f word is prohibited in this server 😭

[verbal fox]

Oof

It funny that this discord has a curse word filter. SGM Johnson would hate it

[visual sierra]

Originally posted by Oscar:

Makee i don't mind as much because i find her character interesting, albeit the ||[redacted] scene in season 1 was just totally weird||. Kwan i'm not sold on yet. Her character is very much meh to me. She didn't really help the plot move forward in Season 1. Her arc in Season 1 was like that side quest you get in a game that you're told is important and then you get the [worst] reward from

i'm like 75% sure the [redacted] word is filtered too so i removed that as well for you, oscar

[spring wolf]

thanks lol

the first redacted word i'm surprised by

[verbal fox]

Hmm.
Yeah so that scene I typically refer to that scene as the "Warcrime" scene, as POWs cannot give consent.

And because the discord filters out all the more apt descriptions

[spring wolf]

yeah it was weird. not that those kinds of scenes have to be 'earned' or anything, but it was just odd to have it in there given the circumstances

[subtle crystal]

Every discord server that doesn't want to get deleted has a curse word filter

[verbal fox]

At that point you can't even tell me it's a good show, because they can't even conceptualize the highly unethical and problematic nature of having it, especially when they could have done literally anything else to the same effect.
But no, they had to make Chief a war criminal of the worst kind.

[spring wolf]

they were trying to humanize chief, but it was a bad call any way you slice it

we did get "master cheeks" from it though, so there's that

[subtle crystal]

It was a great call with some questionable moves

[wraith plover]

nope

Next episode is next thursday right ? Same time ?

[subtle crystal]

lol wdym nope? its a fact

[subtle crystal]

and yeah

[delicate junco]

.

[mighty yew]

profanity is absolutely allowed on discord as a platform, but individual servers have their own rules

[subtle crystal]

please read again my og comment

especially the "Every discord server that doesn't want to get deleted" part

[mighty yew]

what about profanity would get a discord deleted, exactly?

[subtle crystal]

things that include but not limited to: the N word, words that has to do with racism, sxism, LGBTphobia, sxual context, words that function as curse words against certain religion/ethnicity, general curse words

you know, things you normally wouldn't want discord workers to find out that are being said and used on a regular base in a server you're super-intending

[mighty yew]

as crappy as it is, a lot of that is actually allowed as long as you aren’t directing it at a specific person

generally though, when people say “profanity” they just are talking about “curse words” and nothing else

[subtle crystal]

I'd hate to be the owner/admin of a server that allows that but oh well

unironically someone in #general-chat gave a great example 3 min ago

[mighty yew]

that would be ironic, not unironic

probably a topic that shouldn’t be discussed further though

:3

[spring wolf]

i think there's a distinction betwee profanity and slurs. you of course want a filter for slurs, and profanity just kinda depends. the server rules for this server say keep it family friendly lol

[gray karma]

Man this show is so bad

Heard season 2 would fix lmao

[subtle crystal]

First two episodes are already out, bucko

[gray karma]

Yeah I'm watching it lmao it's terrible

7 games of chief in armor whooping aliens and we gotta sit through 40 minutes of exclusively Not-Halo-story telling to get something that looks like the franchise the fans made famous

[unreal pebble]

I wonder if Makee is supposed to be Mahkee from Halo 5, or if that was just a coincidence.

[subtle crystal]

sigh

Another one insist on comparing two different media pieces

[subtle crystal]

Depends on what was her role I guess

[gray karma]

Same title, same helmet, same everything in name only

[subtle crystal]

Yep, but it's just another interpretation using trademarks and characters
The showrunners never claimed it to be inspired by the games or matching to the games

[gray karma]

What's the showrunners do. They take something that's popular and then they make it about themselves and ruin it

That doesn't mean we should protect her defend them for ruining IP

[subtle crystal]

I'm not protecting anyone lol

[gray karma]

Idk I guess threatening to ban and block people who have opinions seems that way

[subtle crystal]

First of all, if I'm enjoying something that you don't or can't it's not "protecting" or "defending it"

Second I never threatened you at anything, I just pointed you towards something said by actual staff that could lead to there

[gray karma]

Dude if you're enjoying the show then you should really check out the game it's based on

Implying I'll be banned for not being your friend counts the same, especially when. I get the threat from some random account in my DM right after foo

[subtle crystal]

...where have I said you'll be banned for not being my friend? You're being irrational

[toxic warren]

Let's keep it on topic please and move on from this

[gray karma]

Yeah for real

Either way just don't @ me anymore lmao

[subtle crystal]

kk, agreed
I only commented cause I was quoted

[toxic warren]

Don't always need to respond :)

[gray karma]

That's how this all could have been avoided in the first place lmao

[subtle crystal]

On that I can agree☺️

Btw, have we got any episode 3 trailer by any chance?

Teaser of something?

[toxic warren]

https://www.instagram.com/halotheseries?igsh=OTM5bjFoYjc1dXNk

Lots of news and content gets posted there

[subtle crystal]

I don't use Instagram 💀
Maybe there's a twitter equivalent 🤔

There is but they posted nothing since Nov 2003, oof

Welp, thanks anyway stckr

[mighty yew]

https://x.com/haruspis/status/1755781516137730491?s=46&t=EsfAsdhUoldfJcyweGd1aw

Alex Wakeford (@haruspis) on X

the nudity that halo fans are really here for send tweet

Twitter · Feb 9, 2024, 2:31 AM

haruspis you dirty man

[mild parcel]

*Insert Kaiba Defeat image here

I like the elites in the show, and how they made their armor look more like the games, just wish they went even further and made em even closer

[rose eagle]

I don’t know why this garbage got a season 2. I still haven’t watched any of it, it’s embarrassing.

https://tenor.com/view/halo-master-chief-deal-with-it-xbox-video-games-gif-18675186

Embed fail, whatever. But that is Master Chief’s face.

I don’t give a damn about the actor. They should know what they signed to for.

This show is a giant 🖕🏻to all Halo fans.

[drifting girder]

Being very blunt aren't we

[stable comet]

if you haven't watched it why are you even commenting, please just go to twitter and farm your outrage likes there man

like i can understand disliking the show and everything and you're entitled to your opinion but this over the top false outrage stuff is so overplayed it's insane

[drifting girder]

I mean

Season 2 can be as good as it wants to, but it will still carry the weight of being the continuation of a bad start

[stable comet]

if someone wants to criticize the show, i will support that wholeheartedly and i agree with many of them, but just coming here to spew the same 1 complaint and basically just say "yea i'm not watching it"

we do not care i'm gonna be real

i'm just so bored of this lazy criticism because their favorite youtuber said show bad man show face

like we get it dude, do you have any actual opinions of the show lol

[drifting girder]

They can have a personal opinion of the show and still be a negative one

Season 1 is not good enough to defend, youtubers around or not

[stable comet]

again, trust me i'm in the same camp, but i feel like literally just spouting the same exact point over and over that literally everyone and their dog has already discussed, it's tiring af

it's just frustrating to see people have this same one outburst as if they're like speaking against the grain or they're standing up for the downtrodden fans or something lol, like literally every single person in the halo community has already been over this for at least a year now

i'd just prefer if maybe people came up with original criticism like towards writing or cinematography or just something with substance beyond this completely overplayed outrage that's blown over like 8 months ago already

[toxic warren]

You can be negative and still be constructive. There's nothing constructive or helpful about calling something garbage

[bitter ginkgo]

Can’t expect nuanced criticism from a show that lacks any nuance

[sullen gale]

I’m still scared to say out loud that i like the way they show his face

He’s a cool MC

[idle pawn]

Star Wars Clone Wars had a bad start, & yet it went on to become one of the best Star War media content out here.

[thick creek]

You're not alone. I am enjoying it but thankfully I have thick skin and so can take the anger I sometimes get back hehehehe

[unreal pebble]

Well, you managed to be half right.

[toxic warren]

You can still manage better than "this is garbarge", "i'm not watching this", etc
It's not that hard

[ivory lintel]

It’s halo not everyone is gonna be happy about it period.
And besides I think the show might bounce back at the end of season 2 and definitely in to season 3 because I think I know where it’s going

[unreal pebble]

I see a lot of people who are more openly praising it nowadays. It's a nice change of pace from when this channel was 90% the same damn argument about the helmet and claims of Pablo being 'disrespectful' over something he said nearly two years ago.

[ivory lintel]

“We didn’t play the games before making the show”

[unreal pebble]

Which... I mean, I'm not surprised.

[toxic warren]

They did

[unreal pebble]

It's not like playing Halo is a significant element of everyone's childhood or midadulthood. Is that supposed to mean something if you haven't?

[toxic warren]

https://twitter.com/mrstevenkane/status/1506421683841757189

Steven Kane (@mrstevenkane) on X

@Variety Headlines are fun, but here’s what I really said: To make the Halo TV series, we started from the game, and then we made the pilgrimage to 343 to study the entire canon, so that we could bring you the FULL Halo experience! #HaloTheSeries

Twitter · Mar 23, 2022, 12:04 AM

[unreal pebble]

Huh. Weird, it's not showing who they're replying to for me.

[ivory lintel]

They put the master chief in the bed with the woman

[toxic warren]

Variety

[unreal pebble]

Yes, yes, and now Halo fans can't relate to him.

Such a shame.

[ivory lintel]

I can

Fellas stop blaming the writers and directors of the show we all know that ||Tucker did it||

[spring wolf]

What do you mean by nuance here? Genuinely asking

Nuance about what

[bitter ginkgo]

Nuance about anything, there’s nothing that isn’t dumbed down for the show, whether it be the helmet to come off for dumb memeable emotion he could of displayed with it on, calling New Alexandria “Reach City”, focusing on some rebel story to copy some other space opera when they have a futuristic military horror space opera right in front of them.

[wintry pelican]

It's not new alexandria...

[bitter ginkgo]

I can’t think of many actors who could do chief without the helmet maybe John Bernthal

[native otter]

I want to see Soren in full Mjolnir

[hidden valve]

Helmet This, Helmet that. I want to know the reason the Covenant are genociding humanity in the Silver Timeline because its not the whole reclaimer thing because we've seen two characters that can interact with forerunner artifacts.

[tawdry kestrel]

Glad I wasn’t the only one

[mild parcel]

They should’ve made Chief say nothing and have his lines as subtitles so the fans could read them out and pretend we are the Master Chief

Big brain

[uneven sphinx]

It's interesting how Ackerson says ONI, he says "the O-N-I"

[dense jewel]

That bothered me so much 💀

[uneven sphinx]

Lmao

The guns look really good though

[tawdry kestrel]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/gxtyR6NBWb

I found Quan Ha in Starfeild

[uneven sphinx]

It seems like silver team is supposed to act as a replacement to noble team

They've already taken a Carter quote

[frozen onyx]

https://youtu.be/KKKY1eExBNI?si=3MvmL1Nhr_ODCqvO Pablo Schrieber says that Master Chief takes his helmet off in the show so the audience can understand what he’s feeling but if he actually played the games he’d know that taking the helmet off isn’t necessary for Chief to express emotions.

[subtle crystal]

I don't think people understand how ridiculous it looks sometimes when a criticism bit about a tv show sums up as "he took his biker helmet off noooo😢😔"

[bitter ginkgo]

How else would we know how he is feeling? Certainly the show couldn’t use context

[subtle crystal]

Or you can just look at his face
Cause usually humans that aren't video game characters don't talk to each other with helmets on their faces when they're not in battle, or.. riding their bikes

Why would he even need his helmet on when he's not fighting?

[bitter ginkgo]

Because showing his face goofy face trying to portray some memeable emotion is worse than if he just had the helmet on

[subtle crystal]

Idk, I think he's doing a great job showing anger, fear, sadness, confusion, betrayal

All kind of stuff I wouldn't be able to figure if he had a blank helmet on the entire time

And I'm still asking why would he need to roam around with a helmet on when he's not fighting, not even talking about going around with the entire spartan suit on

[bitter ginkgo]

The games have emotion without showing his face. They want to make a show you can watch with your brain off so you gotta show his face I guess

[subtle crystal]

Video games are different media than tv shows, they're able to pass over emotions and context in ways shows can't

[subtle crystal]

So I assume you have no proper answer for this btw

[bitter ginkgo]

He first takes his helmet off with a gun pointed at his head lol. I mean I get it, paramount is CBS and CBS is generic as plain toast for John Everyman

[subtle crystal]

Welp, I'm gonna take it as "no" then

Btw that one was justified, he took his helmet off to gain Kwan's trust and cooperation

[bitter ginkgo]

He shouldn’t of taken it off then

[subtle crystal]

I just told you why he did tho?

[bitter ginkgo]

Yeah for the worst character should of kept it on and ignored her

[subtle crystal]

It doesn't matter if you view her as a bad character or the worst character, there was a reasoning behind that decision

[bitter ginkgo]

Not even good reasoning for something the show trivializes anyways. Why build it up as a big decision to take it off only to make a joke of it throughout the season

[subtle crystal]

Wdym big decision?

It's a big decision for the fanbase because lots of you folks made it so sacred to have the helmet on, he took it off because he needed to disarm her and gain her trust and that was the fastest way

This ain't The Mandalorian here, he has no holy duty to never remove that helmet off lmao

[bitter ginkgo]

I would never compare this to Mandalorian. In the show it’s a bigger deal for them to have their helmets on than off.. Which then we should of just had a Sgt Johnson show

[uneven sphinx]

Yall have quite literally just been arguing all day, give it a rest.
The show isn't supposed to be canonical, it is just taking creative liberty and making it the way they want it, the show itself doesn't necessarily represent the games, but it is still a quality show with some pretty good cinematography, although the writing is questionable to say the least

[subtle crystal]

Exactly, that character in that show has a reason to not take the helmet off, Chief doesn't

[subtle crystal]

I've personally been here barely 40 min👀

[uneven sphinx]

Mandos reason is because of the ideology of the mandolorians

Also, I quite enjoyed season 2 so far

The props and sets are very well made, and the writing is noticeably different

[subtle crystal]

Yep, and in Halo's case it's because of the ideology of the fans😂

Agreed tho, very much

[uneven sphinx]

I guess lol

If they made a show that was Canon and he took off his helmet, then I'd understand the anger, but the show rn is in a different timeline

[stray nimbus]

Thank god

[tawdry kestrel]

this is just my opinion but I think the tv show is good

yeah there are differences between the tv show's "silver timeline" and the main timeline

but at least there is a halo tv show

[dim bough]

Season 2!

[burnt sage]

LOL

[frozen onyx]

In the books he does take his helmet off at various points if I’m remembering correctly tho. I mean it’s not exactly out of character for Chief to have his helmet or armor off but the reasoning Pablo used isn’t 100% sound IMO. With the helmet on we can still hear chiefs words and read his body language.

I honestly wish TV chief was a bit more of a smartass like he is in halo infinite tho 😂

[subtle crystal]

Neat, but none of it answers my question that you quoted

It's alright to just admit "yeah he doesn't need his suit and helmet on all the time and it just looks cool"

[frozen onyx]

Honestly a lot of the complaints would’ve been avoided if either the Master Chief wasn’t a character in this show, or if he simply had a different name but the same rank.

I never had a huge complaint about the helmet coming off personally i was just debating Pablo’s reasoning for doing so. What’s funny is halo fans spent years panning cameras around and such (end of halo 1) looking for chiefs face and when he takes it off in a show they get mad 😂😂

[burnt sage]

true...

"ITS ONLY OKAY WHEN WE DO IT!!"

[toxic warren]

I like this take 😂

[frozen onyx]

Hell if I was a spartan id probably be wearing my mjolnir as much as I could. It’s temperature regulated, the air is filtered, you can just use the bathroom in it at any time you want, it actually sounds kinda nice 😂

[subtle crystal]

Honestly, could that the suit is just big and clunky and heavy to wear so it's easier for them to act when they're not wearing it?

That's at least what I assume

[frozen onyx]

In mainline lore, their brains actually directly move the armor around as if it was their own body rather than their brain moving their limbs to move the armor

[burnt sage]

oh

[frozen onyx]

With the armor doing all the movement for them their body is hardly strained at all.

Chief sustained a massive leg injury before halo infinite (can’t remember if it was a torn ACL or torn Achilles tendon) and he was still able to operate like nothing happened

[frozen onyx]

Oh yeah I’m sure it’s pretty cumbersome to shoot scenes with a clunky prop suit on

[subtle crystal]

So it make sense they're trying to ease on the actors and stuff

[wraith shell]

I will gladly take those suits off there hands lol

[burnt sage]

*their

[rose eagle]

There is no YouTuber, more just reading up about the show and episode synopsis’s, ignoramus.

[fresh briar]

I have experience with wearing bulky heavy things for scenes and it isn’t as bad as you may think

The actors just want scenes without helmets so their face can get out there, more traction for their career

[fresh briar]

Show chief is way too emotional, its a large part of chiefs character that he is lacking such. Whole point of the infinite story behind him needing to be more human and all of cortanas previous remarks about it

Anyway season one was terrible and I’ll debate anyone on it, season 2 I haven’t seen yet

[rigid moon]

||Cortana is turned against the UNSC by the covenant, in the series wish they just kept Cortana in John’s head||

[fresh briar]

The show writers should be banned from ever writing again

[rigid moon]

😂 fr

||But either way I’m going to watch it, cause there isn’t anything else to watch||

||Plus they didn’t even show us, how makee even survived||

||She came back from the dead apparently||

😭

[fresh briar]

I can’t say that anymore but you get the point

[rigid moon]

||If cortana, doesn’t come back as her original self, at the end of the season or doesn’t get put back into John’s head I’ll be damned||

Plus

|||Why’d they change her appearance 💀||

[fresh briar]

You can ask why they did a lot of things

[rigid moon]

Yes hopefully the rest of the episodes can save season 2 cause it ain’t looking good RN

What level is pic perms ?

[scenic plover]

Imagine halo reach sequel or whatever i no english

[tawdry kestrel]

I would love to write the upcoming seasons lol

[tawdry kestrel]

||I like the direction its taking so far, the Silver Squad willing to go to reach to find the other squad. Interesting episode that’s coming up.|| - Spoilers accidentally

E1 was good, E2 was okay.

[rigid moon]

||Yeah but what doesn’t make sense is cortana turning on the UNSC|||

In the series

||Halsey is better than ackerson||

||Was always the better person but is also very out of balance||

[tawdry kestrel]

You have a point

That didn’t make sense either

I was pretty confused

[rigid moon]

||Like how do you manage to let the covenant get access to||

[tawdry kestrel]

But like someone said above personally I would have loved to just see Cortana in his head

[rigid moon]

Cortana

[tawdry kestrel]

Fr

[rigid moon]

||Yeah that’s what I said, I don’t know why they even decided to remove her cause, it was a whole character arc.||

||But cortana taking over||

||In the fight was cool||

[toxic warren]

Just a reminder, but if you're chatting about Season 2 plot points please use #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh sorry lol

[rigid moon]

Oh

I didn’t even notice there was another chat

[tawdry kestrel]

Same

[gentle zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbIRpGfwWQ

Made this edit of that one scene XD

Hopefully will give you some giggles

[wild raft]

Could have been a better edit

[gentle zealot]

Yeah I suck at editing

I keep imagining if someone who can animate or make really good edits would make that it would be freaking hilarious

[wild raft]

Actually the whole process of Cortana and Master Chief coming together, was well done, making it a visual and theatrical reality

[gentle zealot]

In season 1?

[wild raft]

When he had to do scientific proceedure

[rigid moon]

||Yes but the splitting apart wasn’t Great||

[left galleon]

Just started watching the halo series, honestly it way better than I was expecting

[wild raft]

This is a serious question to anyone who plays halo, any edition... If our world and humanity was as far ahead as Reach and the Spartan program was in real life today with clones and artificial intelligence, would you volunteer for the Spartan program, for lack of better words?

I would

[dusk arrow]

honestly, thats a hard question

would i still be able to talk to friends or no?

[wild raft]

treat it like an advanced military headquarters similar rules would apply. Meaning at the barracks and off mission you would have access to devices to contact friends and family

[dusk arrow]

hmmmm

ima go with yes

[tawdry kestrel]

Depends. Considering that you can’t get into the military if you have health concerns I don’t think people can volunteer if that’s the case. Heck I probably wouldn’t be able to despite me wanting to if I had the chance.

[wild raft]

taking the ASVAB is voluntary

[tawdry kestrel]

Ah

I thought you meant like the Space Force

[wild raft]

Well, to clarify: health records would apply

[tawdry kestrel]

True

I’m nearsighted and I have a digestive disease

[wild raft]

to note, there are ways around some health records.

[wild raft]

With the questioned i proposed I made a variant to what actually happened you'll have to watch the series to find out

if you already did great

[warped summit]

Ok I finished both episodes of the s2. I liked episode 1 and episode 2 was ok

I am looking forward to the next few episodes

[warped summit]

Cortana😍

[scenic elm]

How do you do the whole spoiler-cover-up-your-words thing Before I starting talking

[subtle crystal]

If you want a talk about spoilers just to the spoilers chat

[scenic elm]

Ah yes thank you

[cursive grove]

Im glad they finally used the real halo theme.

||It seems like they might go through the reach glassing too.||

But they can hardly consider this show canon am i correct?

[toxic warren]

#halo-the-series-spoiler-chat

[floral spoke]

Master chief hasn't earned the "title the demon"
I NEED HIM TO STRIKE FEAR INTO ALLIES AND ENEMIES
Season 2 episode 1 does the legend of master chief justice

[stiff osprey]

@floral spoke we haven’t hit the ring yet, give it time.

[cursive grove]

Ik bro. When he gonna be called demon. I think he earned it in the game after halo 1

I feel like if we forget mostly about season 1 season two will be cool

[floral spoke]

that first fight in ep one hes getting there tbh.

[floral spoke]

true

[floral spoke]

I will.
i noticed we got 2 episodes.
is it 2 episodes per week or they where being nice

[cursive grove]

Yeah
He got his butt handed to him in season one against the brutes. I hated that

[floral spoke]

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

[cursive grove]

Id like to forget too 😂

[stiff osprey]

They’re just being nice

[floral spoke]

😭

[stiff osprey]

I think we get 8 episodes this season, so we’ve got 6 weeks left lol

[floral spoke]

For the same reason I like the samurai code is the same reason I like elites.
But elites always talk about honor.
They use invis how is that an honorable fight when you have an advantage

[uncut frigate]

such a shady way to do it

[floral spoke]

True.
Great take.
I appreciate it.

Elites think they are samurai but fight like ninjas

[stiff osprey]

I wish we’d get like 10 episodes

[uncut frigate]

i jus twait for them to all be out and pay for a month

[stiff osprey]

Once the season ends in March we have to wait 1 1/2 - 2 years before the return

@uncut frigate you can get a free month if you’re a Gamepass ultimate subscriber I believe.

Honor is subjective.

[floral spoke]

True but.
Each person can see if someone is being honorable.
There's a line

O

[floral spoke]

Microsoft needs to put 1 billion into the show and infinite

How many of the Spartans from the show are being put into the game?

[stiff osprey]

While I’d love that as well, I think we’re lucky if we can get $200-$300 million a season.

[tawdry kestrel]

What?

[cursive grove]

Wym wat

[tawdry kestrel]

Did we watch different fight scenes cause he destroyed those brutes (exept for atriox)

[cursive grove]

Somebody pull up the clip. Im not talkin till we have it here in front of us

[subtle crystal]

I'm pretty sure Microsoft isn't funding the show at all

[unreal pebble]

I for one am absolutely aghast at every fight not being lazy and boring because the protagonist effortlessly beats all enemies.

[tawdry kestrel]

https://youtu.be/zN5v_7Jrj5E?si=LYNHVPF-4t1tqb6D

This scene right

[cursive grove]

yes, i guess he didn't get his butt handed to him but it he def didnt' beat their butts crazy

esp atriox

[tawdry kestrel]

Well theirs gotta be a actual struggle it can't just be him instantly killing them plus I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be chieftains rather that regular minors

[stiff osprey]

This is also amongst their first encounters with the covenant.

And brutes have always been the heavy hitters.

[cursive grove]

i really liked the elites so far in season 2

[tawdry kestrel]

I'm already in love with the new arbiter

[cursive grove]

The new arbiter?

[rapid wedge]

That's what I thought but then I thought it was a Zealot lol

[stiff osprey]

I’m pretty sure it was just a Sangheili Major

[tawdry kestrel]

No

[cursive grove]

i don't remember

[tawdry kestrel]

It's confirmed he's a arbiter

[cursive grove]

i just watched it like friday

[tawdry kestrel]

Not thel but an arbiter

[cursive grove]

i'm gonna have to pull the episode up againm

[tawdry kestrel]

It doesn't mention it in the episodes but it was confirmed by wolfkill

[rapid wedge]

How do wolfkill find out?

[cursive grove]

is it one that dies?

[tawdry kestrel]

Wym how?

[tawdry kestrel]

Probably

[rapid wedge]

Like where does it say that it was Arbiter?

[tawdry kestrel]

In an article

[rapid wedge]

Made by the writers of the show?

[tawdry kestrel]

Before the season came out they talked about a arbiter who was gonna show up and spare master chief in the first episode

[rapid wedge]

Oh that one!

[tawdry kestrel]

Yeah

Plus if you look at his armor he has that shoulder plate like all arbiters have

[stiff osprey]

I’m gonna need you to provide that article before I believe that. 😂

[tawdry kestrel]

https://www.gamesradar.com/halo-season-2-arbiter-producer-tease/

There

[rapid wedge]

Honestly it's a very sucky way to introduce such a cool character

[tawdry kestrel]

Fr

[rapid wedge]

Not a single line in the show and his armor doesn't look different from those other Elites

[tawdry kestrel]

Wym he talks at the end of episode 2

[rapid wedge]

That's the same elite?

[tawdry kestrel]

Yes

[rapid wedge]

I thought that was a Zealot lmao

[tawdry kestrel]

Nah

[rapid wedge]

I would love to see Reach Zealot armor in the show

[tawdry kestrel]

Doubtful

[rapid wedge]

I know but it would be cool

[tawdry kestrel]

The show armor and game armor are vastly different but I do like the show armor

[rapid wedge]

The show armor isn't enough for me honestly.. like I think it's really cool but it doesn't capture the religious aspects of the covenant like how Reach and other games do

Since The Sangheli are some of the most religious members of the covenant

[stiff osprey]

@rapid wedge that Sangheili does talk at the end of episode 2. If he is THE Arbitor, then it’ll make much more sense when he fails and the ring is destroyed.

[rapid wedge]

Oh yea that's understandable.. I just wish we got to see more into his story like how they did in Halo 2

[stiff osprey]

I’m sure we will. He still has to fail.

I’d bet that by season 3 or 4, maybe even 5 he’ll become a main character.

[rapid wedge]

that would be sick

[tawdry kestrel]

What no that's not happening till episode 4

[tawdry kestrel]

He's not thel

[toxic warren]

Can we keep spoiler related content to #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat - thanks

[cursive grove]

sorry

[tawdry kestrel]

Doesn’t it take place after the events of Halo Reach

[rapid wedge]

No

Because Reach has yet to be glassed

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh okay

[tawdry kestrel]

That's literally happening this season

[stiff osprey]

Dude I gotta watch my mouth, I keep getting warnings 😂

[tawdry kestrel]

Same

I already got a 2 day mute

[stiff osprey]

I mean I get it, but im not using the words towards anyone, also I cuss like a sailor

They say people who cuss are more intelligent and I’m trying to increase my IQ

[tawdry kestrel]

That's a lie cause I'm dumb

[tawdry kestrel]

My bad. I’m not too fond of the Halo lore as I used to be, so my apologies.

If you watched the show you'd know they're not on the ring

Yet...

[stiff osprey]

Maybe it’s cause you’re not using the words right lol

[tawdry kestrel]

Nah I'm small brain

[tawdry kestrel]

I’ve watched Episodes 1 & 2 of the Second Season

I’m not bothering to watch S1 lool

[tawdry kestrel]

I got lost into episode 2

If anything just watch episode 5 and 9 those are the only good ones imo

Gotcha

(they're only good cause of the action)

[stiff osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-facepalm-stressed-headache-ugh-gif-17809450

[tawdry kestrel]

What it's true

[stiff osprey]

Maybe it’s the small brain thing lol

[tawdry kestrel]

Yes small brain see explosion mean good

[green pier]

have the 3s gotten screen time yet?

might watch s2 when they show up

[stiff osprey]

What sense does that make?

[stoic jetty]

Finally finished S1.

Holy crap it's way better than what a lot of people were claiming.

[thick creek]

I thought so too. I quite enjoyed s1, have liked s2 so far.

[stoic jetty]

About to dig into S2. Yeah S1 was a complete package of both the helmet "issue" and retelling of the Halo story: makes it make sense and in a compelling way. Absolutely nailed the show.

Good to hear! I'm excited.

[thick creek]

I love that they're expanding the story. In the books I have read so far Chief doesn't wear his helmet all the time either. The games Chief does because he's constantly fighting 100% of the time, so I get why the gamers don't like the helmet off, which is cool. We all have our likes and dislikes and that's why I don't pay attention to reviews or give reviews. Heck if we all liked the same thing this world would be awfully boring lol.

[subtle crystal]

If I had a dollar

but I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it!

now to keep up with the rest of us

[stoic jetty]

Agreed. Helmet was fine for a medium like a FPS shooter game but Pablo is right that the only way to tell a visual story is to feel what the character feels.

[thick creek]

This is the hard part lol. I haven't long gotten into the world of Halo and man do I struggle to keep up lol. I am loving the discussions though. 🙂

[stoic jetty]

Yes, I'm ready for S2 tonight!

[subtle crystal]

and you're even gonna make it in time to watch EP3 😄

[stoic jetty]

Finally, I won't be a year behind lol

[thick creek]

Can it be Thursday in like 20 mins? I need my Chief fix 🤣

[subtle crystal]

ugh, I wish

[stoic jetty]

Well there's a ton of featurettes in S1 on Paramount+

[subtle crystal]

but man, you really need to watch episode 2 asap.

[stoic jetty]

I'll get both eps in before kickoff at 7p

[thick creek]

I am having Spartan withdrawals. Might have to check them out @stoic jetty

[subtle crystal]

the setup to episode 3's starting scene is incredibly tilting

[thick creek]

Are their any trailers for E3?

[subtle crystal]

honestly can't remember when was the last time I was this excited for the week to pass

[subtle crystal]

not that I know of sadly

[stoic jetty]

I also love how they did the fights. So satisfying.

[thick creek]

OMG yes. And where they're on the Covenant home planet. That was so game and show mixed together nicely I thought.

[stoic jetty]

YES

[thick creek]

I didn't cry five times (each time I watched that ep) reading "vital signs critical"

[stoic jetty]

Firefight, but with emotional impact.

[subtle crystal]

can we talk about how they def didnt need to put the "low shield" alert sound yet they did?

[thick creek]

My 9 year old son LOVES the series. My 16 year old daughter is meh, it's Chief. She doesn't get our addiction to Halo however does find it amusing.

[stoic jetty]

Yooooooo that was chef's kiss

[thick creek]

I think the low shield alert added to the urgency of the scene. Well it did for me. 🙂

[subtle crystal]

ohhhhhhhh and the huge cove raid when they come to take the keypart and Cortana gives Chief guiding and he's like "I KNOW HOW THIS GAME IS PLAYED"

[stoic jetty]

That is so cool to hear: an example of how this show is finally fulfilling the potential of Halo to truly be a Story first and Game second: something that all are able to enjoy.

[thick creek]

That was funny.

[stoic jetty]

The fan service moments were outstanding.

[thick creek]

Grunts seem to not give a shhhhhhh about anything, which is hilarious. I love the Grunts ^_^

[stiff osprey]

The best part was MC throwing a pistol at a grunt lol

[subtle crystal]

I honestly can't wait for Cortana to find her way to Chief back again, you just know they gonna have their 100% synced-up moment.

[thick creek]

I know right? Both kids and I roared laughing at that. Run out of bullets, throw your gun at their heads. Wish you could do that in game lmao

[subtle crystal]

ah i'm not saying it will happen, idk

I just really hope it will, and it make sense

[stiff osprey]

Even an empty gun is a weapon

[thick creek]

Especially if you have the strength of MC. My strength it would hit them and they'd go what was that? lol.

[stiff osprey]

To me it seems like they’ve got this all planned out. Develop the connection from the start so her betrayal hurts more

[subtle crystal]

yeah I only said it because at this point season 1 is year's old anyway

[stiff osprey]

They throw it back at you and you die lol

[thick creek]

Yup..... story of my pvp life rofl.

[stiff osprey]

Honestly I feel like this show could go on for 9-10 seasons of the interest stays for it

[thick creek]

Totally. I'd hate for it to have a big boom of omg and then we're left hanging wanting more.

[stoic jetty]

Agreed. They set up the threads so well in S1 that it has legs for compelling seasons for a long while.

[bitter ginkgo]

7 seasons and a movie!

[stiff osprey]

I feel like season 3 could follow the first game, then seasons 3-4 could follow Halo 2, 5-6 could follow Halo 3, then you have Halo 4 and 5, eventually Infinite

[thick creek]

LOVE the movie idea. Round it to an even 10 seasons though. Maybe like Supernatural and take it all the way to 15. 😁

[stiff osprey]

Especially with how much they flesh out the story, it’s not being rushed

[bitter ginkgo]

It’ll be lucky to make it out of this season

[stoic jetty]

Definitely. There's so much density to each of those arcs that it'd be easy to avoid mid-run fatigue where normally they stretch and meander until it picks up the pace again.

[thick creek]

Which is great because it's leaving you wanting more at the start of the week yet feeling satisfied at the end of the ep

[thick creek]

Hopefully those that are really enjoying it will outweigh those that aren't and keep it afloat.

but I guess it's like a lot of series though, we never know from season to season. I loved Lucifer however that died a quick death sadly.

[bitter ginkgo]

I just find the threat lvl goofy it’s somewhere between planets getting glassed and enjoying nature documentaries

[stiff osprey]

Paramount said the first season was one of its most streamed shows.

I feel like season 2 should double those numbers.

[thick creek]

Hopefully though it will intensify as the covenant get more annoyed at the human's super weapons.

Thanks for the chat lovelies. I am off to binge S1 and the 2 eps of S2 yet again whilst I write this back story for a role playing log I found years ago lol. Nothing better than MC in the background whilst writing 🙂

[bitter ginkgo]

They shouldn’t just be annoyed humans existing is offensive to their religion

[thick creek]

Indeed, but they're now finding that humans are fighting back which will antagonize them further so suggests that the intensity of their threat will increase.......... hopefully.

[tawdry kestrel]

I saved part of episode 1 and all of episode 2 so I can have something to watch as I will be dragged to my In laws to watch the superbowl, meaning while they watch that football game I'll be watching some halo and after that Eminence of Shadow season 2

[jovial sun]

Guys no spoilers, but is season 2 better?

[stiff osprey]

Yes

[timid gyro]

finally watched all of s1. I think my favorite thing was seeing the spartans show what they can actually do.

[warped summit]

Imo yeah

[tawdry kestrel]

Yes

[snow jolt]

Was untill they showed Kwan and whatever the other is called

[jovial sun]

i said without spoilers but her being in it doesn't surprise me though

[sullen gale]

What’s the deal w Vannak and Rizzy having officer ranks? Are they ranked above MC?

[sacred plume]

Not sure, a bunch of ranks are above "Master Chief" in games Chief is also more symbolic and refusing promotions when they were offered to him.

[wheat current]

Caught the Halo Series S2 trailer while watching the Super Bowl… my fiancée just watched me fist pumping haha

[vale saffron]

I just watched the second episode and just realized that cobalt team is just reskinned noble team, why can’t they do the most simple things right 😢

I don’t get why they felt the need to replace such an amazing set of characters

[sullen gale]

They wanted a clean cut from the primary timeline canon. If they used noble team then they just fly out and die offscreen, people would be even angrier. They did the right thing using an homage there as this storyline will get covered in far less pages and game missions than the primary Fall of Reach did.

[vale saffron]

Yea but why fix what’s already perfect?

I get what you mean, but it’s not much of a callout if they’re fully replaced

[little anvil]

They wouldn't fit the Silver Timeline anyway.

Noble works because of the situation the UNSC was in in canon. Silver has a different setup.

[vale saffron]

Forgot about that

[little anvil]

Cobalt is entirely differnet.

[stiff osprey]

Anyone ever watch/read the Walking Dead? Kirkman said one of the things we enjoyed about the show was that he could change things, make adjustments.

[vale saffron]

Can’t say I have. I think the reason I don’t like the replacement of teams is that I was excited to see more of blue team and then we got reskinned blue team, then I was excited for more of noble team and we got reskinned noble team

[stiff osprey]

I like the prospect that we could see those characters again in a different capacity. I think we also need to temper our expectations.

[sullen gale]

I liken this to Avengers Infinity War. Everyone seems to agree it was excellent but it followed no canon from the books or games before it. It told the best story for its medium and universe which are separate and nobody bats an eye.

Halo does same thing and i feel like nobody can get past it. If you want that timeline, stick to those canon sources. I don’t need to see it all remade in a tv show tbh. The fall of reach canonically has been done several times (and bungie did their best to butcher that canon anyway on the way out). I’m excited for a fresh version here w these Spartans and this John.

People should think of this as a “Fracture” or whatever 343 calls their multiverse.

[subtle crystal]

The Avengers movies aren't the best example for comparison since they're adopted partially from the source material (the comic books), but I can see your bigger point

[timid gyro]

I watched all the seasons. unfortunately, some seasons were better than others.

.
so I watched s1. what's going on with Soren's arm, lol?

[sullen gale]

That’s from a short story in evolutions. He didn’t take to the augmentation very well

[tawdry kestrel]

master cheeks

[rocky kelp]

ninja

[heady mica]

think i'll wait until the season is all done with so i can just watch it all at once the first one was fun from the start , just wish we should not have seen the chief face until the end of the seasons

[jovial spruce]

Guys I haven’t seen S2 yet, is it worth watching? (I know they brought back Kwan :/:/)

[unreal pebble]

I've heard good things.

[jovial spruce]

I’ve heard a mix unfortunately

[unreal pebble]

Ok

[dusky shadow]

I haven't watched S2 yet waiting for a few episodes to be released then binge it...

[wild raft]

every time a new episode is released I start over watching the whole thing

[subtle crystal]

Yes, the 2 episodes that are out by now are really enjoyable.

[jolly turtle]

the first 10-15 minutes are the best so far, although apart from that its not too terrible

[wooden falcon]

Helo

How does john take back his body after cortana takes over in season one ep 9?

Or does he even take back his body

Can’t find any data online

[toxic warren]

Better question for #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat

[tawdry kestrel]

I don't think he watched the first episode

[neon plover]

When do new show episodes come out again?

[subtle crystal]

Every Thursday, 12am PT

[neon plover]

That's a long time

thx

[subtle crystal]

You're welcome

[mighty yew]

Halo TV show season 2 episode 1 thoughts

writing is a lot better
CGI is a LOT better
choreography has improved
the director of cinematography has improved vastly
the writing makes a lot more sense
the characters feel… quite a bit more realistic
the music was great

[burnt sage]

im on ep7 now

hopes there are less cringe moments in further episodes

[rapid wedge]

I'm so sorry

If you don't like cringe then you probably won't like ep 8 at all

[burnt sage]

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

[rapid wedge]

This chat doesn't like all caps

[austere stone]

Is it just me or are we just hoping for the entire silver team to just go rogue and fight the covenant themselves

Ngl i dont rmbr much from season 1

[bitter ginkgo]

Will anyone in the show be willing to fight the covenant? Or is it more important to show the UNSC is questionable

[drifting girder]

The canon lore does both so...

[raven cypress]

ay uh why tf cortana look like that

[toxic warren]

#halo-the-series-spoiler-chat

[split magnet]

Halo Season 2 is not available on JioCinema in India. Does anyone know when it would be available?

[tawdry kestrel]

she looks like a karen 😭

i prefer how she looks in season 1 compared to season 2

[stiff osprey]

I think it’s more important for the show to make the viewer understand that the alien threat is something unknown to humanity. Right now the UNSC has only fought other humans.

[bitter ginkgo]

Yeah the Spartans have fought the Covenant enough to understand some Sangheili

[cedar solar]

is season 2 a step up from season 1

i never finished season 1 but if season 2 is good ill power through to get to it

[timid gyro]

I like it so far

[warped valley]

how long until chapter releases

[gray mulch]

was gona go watch ep3 but cant select episodes on paramount app

[next hamlet]

new ep in like 3 mins right?

[gray mulch]

dunno

cant even sign in to paramount

xbox paramount app just refuses to work or load anything

[dreamy stirrup]

EPISODE 3 IS LIVE AS OF 23 MINUTES AGO

[gray mulch]

honestly ep3 was a banger

[toxic warren]

Windows App and the Website are just broken for me, need to wait until I can get to the TV and play it from there ;(

[raven cypress]

Hold up… let paramount cook…

[somber laurel]

So. You are given 5 mins of halo feeling through out the show. The rest is garbage looking at the huge nose of master chief

They seem to have an obsession of showing the actors face. Wear the darn helmet

[subtle crystal]

Thanks for your incredibly original review

I should make a halo show bingo card🤔

[toxic warren]

Keep it constructive please

[floral spoke]

Too much yapping in show

I NEED MORE WAR

[crisp tulip]

Too much stupid drama....again 😔 I hate what they're doing to blue team (aka silver team)

[dreamy stirrup]

Can’t have a good story to tell without drama to share

[crisp tulip]

Somehow the games did just fine. The cutscenes in the game alone make for a better story

Why is the Chief going rogue when it's not even "Halo 5" in the show yet?

[dreamy stirrup]

Cutscenes in game were the drama that lead to action

Take Reach for example

[crisp tulip]

Very different. It wasn't drama like this.

[dreamy stirrup]

Cause it’s a game. It’s the drama in which everything went right for the main character

A full sit down play through of Reach may take 5 hours, maybe? Idk

This is a live action series, almost a hour each episode

9 episodes

It had to have that drama and build up to get action

[crisp tulip]

You can do plenty of strategic battles.

I'm fine with some oni drama and lies but making Chief and silver team have drama like they are is ridiculous

[dreamy stirrup]

✨ S I L V E R T I M E L I N E ✨

[crisp tulip]

Wow, forgot about that 🤦

[dreamy stirrup]

As I said in #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat , I have to continue to tell myself to disassociate the game

Once you do so, it’s a great series

[crisp tulip]

I get that I'm comparing to the game some but that's not what makes it bad to me.

[dreamy stirrup]

Everyone has their opinion on what’s bad to the show, but it’s not stopping me from watching it

[crisp tulip]

Same, I'll still watch. I like certain things they're trying to do different but I don't like that there's 0 cohesion with anyone in the military. I don't like that they opt to show the actors' faces when he's on a battlefield. I don't mind the helmet being off but when Chief is taking his helmet off in a combat zone after an ambush (season 1) that's too far.

I get his emotions were new but that doesn't cut it for me. He could've got feeling for, idk, any of the people in the military he's served with for his entire life.

[floral spoke]

No way we get to see the fall of reach 😭😭
Finna cry

[dreamy stirrup]

You can tell they took the lessons learned from S1

[crisp tulip]

I do appreciate the improvements, I'll give them that. And it's only episode 3 so I'll give it more time.

[dreamy stirrup]

Chief could’ve taken off his helmet in episode 2 when he was talking to Rizz during their training exercise.

But it stayed on.

That was the indicator imo that they took feedback seriously

[crisp tulip]

Yeah, I appreciated that lol.

What do you like most about the show?

[floral spoke]

If they are smart they woulda waited

[dreamy stirrup]

Being in the military (and also loving Master Chief as he’s my childhood hero), it’s easily the action scenes where MC and other Spartans kicks butt

[floral spoke]

Thats cool

[dreamy stirrup]

🙂

#halo-the-series-spoiler-chat plz

[floral spoke]

That counts as a leak?

Sorry

[dreamy stirrup]

Spoiler ya

[crisp tulip]

Same and same.

[somber laurel]

Halo is halo. This ain’t halo

[somber laurel]

You say it isn’t? I’d say it is

[somber laurel]

Is it chief or Cortana?

[toxic warren]

I'm telling you it's not

[somber laurel]

Facts don’t care about your feelings. I really cannot that this is halo. Chief does not act like chief, the lore isn’t right and it’s all just very off

[pastel meteor]

Idk but does the elite from episode 2 in the bunker look like arbiter to yall

Season 2

[somber laurel]

And don’t get me wrong

I love guns. But why would they put guns that I have held and shoot in this show?

[subtle crystal]

And you know "what is Halo" because you are...?

[somber laurel]

A dude who used to nerd about the actual lore? It’s disappointing to see how off it is

[toxic warren]

Nothing to do with my feelings. Calling things trash and garbage is not constructive and not welcome here. You can be negative and still be constructive

[subtle crystal]

I'm a dude as well lol
I am curious, what makes you better than me or any other person here who enjoys the show?

[somber laurel]

Enjoy the show dude. But it ain’t halo my guy

[subtle crystal]

And I'm asking again, what gives you the right to call what's halo and what isn't?

[somber laurel]

Right. It’s not good. Other words. Still constructive

[toxic warren]

Please don't ping on replies, thank you

[somber laurel]

Freedom of speech, the first amendment etc.

[toxic warren]

You don't have that here

[subtle crystal]

1. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you get to gatekeep as you want.
2. What makes you think discord servers are a democracy?

[somber laurel]

Lol. I mean I do. And never said it’s a democracy. Infact I prefer a republic

[toxic warren]

343 and this server aren't a government, freedom of speech doesn't apply. You have our #rules-and-guidelines

Should probably go look up what freedom of speech actually means

[somber laurel]

Does it look like I care?

Oh I know a thing or two about freedom mister

[subtle crystal]

Irrelevant?
Look, the only reason I feed this poor attempt at gatekeeping and baiting is to expose the so called "true fans"

[somber laurel]

Awesome bro. Expose me

It’s sad to see halo portrayed this way

[subtle crystal]

I mean, you should lol.
Especially considering you automatically agreed to follow the rules of the server as soon as you enjoyed and you're kinda arguing with a person who's supposed to enforce them

[toxic warren]

Moving on now

[subtle crystal]

kk

[toxic warren]

Try not to engage when staff are dealing with someone please

[subtle crystal]

Just finished the episode, a bit off from what I called on but next episode is gonna be a banger.

[tawdry kestrel]

He is the arbiter

[worn crag]

just watched s2 episode 3 and it might be my favorite episode of the series so far I really liked it

[ashen vector]

Kinda annoyed with the show

[tawdry kestrel]

Why

[ashen vector]

I don't know, I guess I don't have a real reason .. just annoyed with the direction they went. I mean it's not bad but it's not great either. I just started watching it too. I'm on S1E9

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh

Season 1

[ashen vector]

I kinda was rude and skipped through kwans story

[tawdry kestrel]

We don't talk about that it never happened

[tawdry kestrel]

No one cares about her in season 1

[ashen vector]

Okay good lmfao I'll stop talking about it haha

I'll come back when I get into s2

[toxic warren]

I do

[tawdry kestrel]

May god help your poor soul

[ashen vector]

They did make the prophets look good

I'll give them that

[tawdry kestrel]

That's true

[ashen vector]

I just wish I could sit down with 343 and just be like ... Why did you stray from lore

[toxic warren]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/silver-debrief-a-new-beginning

[tawdry kestrel]

Wuh

[ashen vector]

And the dmr is full auto!? Since when

Season 2 begins

[gray mulch]

always

just in the games its set to semi auto but u can see the switch on the side

[ashen vector]

Crazy doesn't make much sense it's a marksmen rifle

[hybrid rover]

Imagine the serie keep going more season and eventually they get flood lore

I would love to see live action flood

[echo estuary]

since always

just not fullauto ingame for balance

[ashen vector]

Give us that feature

[echo estuary]

balance would be ruined

[gray mulch]

lots of marksman rifles have toggles

[silent fable]

Hey I’m Martyn and I’m enjoying the tv show think it’s good

[tawdry kestrel]

Based

[toxic warren]

Welcome!

[floral spoke]

I'm enjoying it too.

I told my homies to watch it and they 5 of them said "NO"

[daring nimbus]

It seems people really like the newest episode

[gentle zealot]

15 minutes into episode 3 and I can't wait for the day when the covenant attack and I hope it's brutal. It's so frustrating watching this show so far and I can't wait for all their faces to turn when the Covenant arrives lol

A part of me wants chief to go awol XD

[urban sparrow]

Great episode!!

[echo estuary]

as though most weapon designs of guns in halo make sense

there are a lot of marksman rifles with a full auto mode anyways

[gentle zealot]

WHAT a cliffhanger! Can't wait for the next episode. It's about to get real

Why does time have to pass so slowly

[ashen vector]

New episode should drop tonight right?

[gentle zealot]

Already dropped

[restive crest]

I started watching the 1st episode yesterday, does anyone know the time gap between the season 1 finale and the first episode of season 2?

[timid gyro]

6 months

[ashen vector]

S2 is giving me mass effect vibes

[sacred plume]

Thats S1

[fringe gulch]

I think I’m going to start watching tomorrow

[odd yew]

Noble Team Noble Team 🙏

[rugged ermine]

Some of these subplots are meaning less.

[light junco]

How did a YouTuber do better then a Hollywood studio like this legitimately makes this scene amazing https://youtu.be/kvG7yFPk0O4?si=SLwuY6L8G1hGJ8F7

I have hopes that season 2 will get better and season 3 will be good

[gray mulch]

because it feels like halo

well maybe not the rubble parts in the show but still

[wintry pelican]

It was my least favourite episode of this season

[heavy locust]

Hey everyone. Can't lie I really love season 2 so far

Even more than season 1!

[toxic warren]

"I think I can speak of all of us..."
No my dude, you really can't

[ashen vector]

It's starting to get predictable when the helmet is gonna come off.

[subtle crystal]

I still haven't got a good answer as for why the helmet being taken off thing is a big deal

[sullen light]

Because it’s not very Chief like, and actually Chief in the show is very unlike Master Chief

But I personally decided to treat it like fan fiction with a big budget

So idc what happens as long as it doesn’t affect the game’s lore

Yeah I saw that after I made that decision

I was unaware of it until my cousin mentioned there was a show

[subtle crystal]

Again with the show-games comparison, you guys are too predictable

[sullen light]

As long as they keep saying wort wort wort

[sullen light]

Let’s not start getting offended by other’s opinions

[subtle crystal]

Where have you seen me getting offended? You're just being far from the first to not understand the show isn't supposed to be like the games

[sullen light]

Oh I’m fully aware of both those facts

[subtle crystal]

Let alone that I already had this conversation a bunch of times, and the only answer I'm getting is "because he doesn't do that" ok, and? Now he does

[sullen light]

I’m also aware you’re allowed to have an opinion as predictable as it may be

[subtle crystal]

You're 100% allowed to have your opinion as much as I'm allowed to point out it's flawed

[sullen light]

Ah yes the Halo Show is flawless I love every aspect of it from the girl who’s plot makes 0 impact to the fact I can see master chief’s face every 2 seconds!

-_-

Anyways I’m off now

Hf

[subtle crystal]

Going from "Chief takes off his helmet making me go rahhhhh" to "ah yes the show is flawless!" is (no pun intended) such a reach

[sullen light]

Look up satire

[subtle crystal]

That's not the definition of satire 😂 did you meant sarcasm?

The show has flaws, "the main character not wearing their suit and helmet at every given moment" isn't one of them

[sullen light]

No I meant satire

[subtle crystal]

Then I suggest you'll look up the definition of satire again

[sullen light]

It’s ok for him to remove the helmet just not every 2 seconds

I suggest you look closely at it

Maybe you still didn’t notice what I really meant

[subtle crystal]

Ok, what reason does Chief has to wear the helmet and the suit at any given time he's not in battle or training?

[subtle crystal]

I have😊

[sullen light]

Spartans are meant to be almost always in the field, ONI holding him and silver team back is the only reason it’s acceptable

[subtle crystal]

Which is... Part of the plot, that's one

Second, tv shows has scenes that aren't constant action for a reason

Third, budget-wise there's no way every episode can have fight scenes only

[sullen light]

“Satire is a way of making fun of people by using silly or exaggerated language. Politicians are easy targets for satire, especially when they're acting self-righteous or hypocritical.”
Definition that may make more sense

[subtle crystal]

I know what satire is, you just haven't used it correctly

[sullen light]

That’s fine Halsey and Ackerman are there for the down time

I’m sure I have

Just not kWaN

[subtle crystal]

Lets say you did, sure

[sullen light]

Anyways bye bye

[subtle crystal]

You mean.. the other characters? You wanted a show with a team of 4 spartans only?

The other characters are there for the plot, you know
I think you just wanted a show that is a compilation of the cutscenes from the games, which is fine... But that's ain't that

[sullen light]

Ofc not lmao, you clearly don’t even try to understand any of the points so there’s no point discussing with you

[subtle crystal]

I understand your points; considering how I find them flawed, influenced by whatever lack of knowledge you have about the difference between video games cutscenes and tv shows and borderline emptiness of logic... I just choose to ignore them

[sullen light]

Bet👍🏼

[subtle crystal]

When I asked you what's wrong with Chief taking his helmet off you said "cause that's not how he is", when you were told the show never attempted to be like the games you started being hyperbolic and something about the side characters being there is bad for some reason?

[sullen light]

I said kwan was bad I never mentioned the rest being bad

[subtle crystal]

So this comment was for what reason?

[sullen light]

Soren’s dope, Ackerman and Halsey are essential just like both Keyes characters are along with all the other Spartans and Marines

[subtle crystal]

Ok, so you do understand there can't be fight scenes all the time

[sullen light]

I never said that it should only be combat

See when I said you didn’t understand my points?

[subtle crystal]

If you do understand that, you also should understand why Chief should be wearing his suit and helmet all the time?

[sullen light]

You think you do, but you have 0 idea what I’m talking about to the point of even putting words in my mouth because you think I have a predictable opinion, which ironically you didn’t predict at all

[subtle crystal]

I'm still waiting to hear what's wrong with that then

[sullen light]

Ah bro you’re too much💀

[subtle crystal]

lol why is it too hard for you to explain what problem you're having with Chief not being in suit at all time?

Simple question, simple answer

[sullen light]

Masalama 7bb

[wise onyx]

I don’t know about you guys but I always thought Kwan was like a “self-insert” character like she’s just there to be there, that’s just my opinion

[subtle crystal]

So no answer then, gotcha
Point and case, have a great day brother

[subtle crystal]

Imo she was planted to be the "mystical character" but people just didn't buy into it

[sullen light]

Should be 70% in suit minimum

Instead it’s closer to 30%

There’s your simple answer

And thanks I’ll have a great day gonna finish H2A legendary solo

[subtle crystal]

I didn't ask how long you think it should've been (already told you why it can't be like that and you agreed with me), I asked why should he be in suit when he's off the battlefield

If you have no answer for that, you basically proved my initial point

[wise onyx]

Tbh, it would be weird seeing chief in a suit doing something outside of combat such as trying to eat soup, imagine how awkward it would be with his suit and helmet on in the middle of a noodle shop

[subtle crystal]

Exactly, because a tv show isn't like the video games. Video games has a straight plot that can't be 1 to 1 adapted into a show

Even star wars movies has downtime scenes

[opaque silo]

they kinda can be with small changes

[subtle crystal]

Would you add that budget? 😂

[sullen light]

I’m not proving any of your points, also please stop “replying” so I don’t get the notification thanks I don’t wanna discuss anything with you anymore👍🏼

[opaque silo]

maybe

[subtle crystal]

Be for real bud, you told me off and said you're leaving only to come back 3 times🤣

[subtle crystal]

Good luck with that, I don't think you're gonna be able to cover one scene with a lifetime of paychecks

[wise onyx]

I get what the guy is saying but it would be kind of awkward for Chief to non combat things in his suit, I mean Spartans are not some Robocop soulless machines, they obviously take breaks outside of combat if permitted

[opaque silo]

hmmm

[viscid ferry]

I don’t really have an issue with him taking off his helmet but I think people were having issues with the way he’s characterized in the series

[wise onyx]

This

[subtle crystal]

Be careful with saying Spartans aren't soulless robots, you're gonna make some people very angey

[wild raft]

what would you do if you where a Spartan on your downtime and that capsule out of your body?

[opaque silo]

if mando can go without his helmet in basically a full season so can master chief

[subtle crystal]

Can you provide specific examples so I could refer to them?

[subtle crystal]

That's different, Mando had a valid in universe reason to

Much of his arc and meaningful scenes were around taking it off

[opaque silo]

im talking about season 1

[wise onyx]

They must’ve not heard of Jorge-052 🤯

[opaque silo]

where he only took it off in the end

[subtle crystal]

Because that's when the "meaningful scenes" part I was talking about happened, yeah

[viscid ferry]

You’re not wrong. That’s just not the route they decided to go with

[opaque silo]

yeah i guess

[subtle crystal]

Also worth noting the Mandalorian is in constant moving, he started the series as a bounty hunter so he was (and is) almost always on field

Even the last scene of the last season was about him being able to set on his house and rest for a bit

[wild raft]

What would you do if you where a Spartan and had the capsule taking out your body?
I would work on weapon tech with Dr. Halsey and train over and over again

[subtle crystal]

Ahhhh it's easy to say that in hindsight and when you're talking about a theoretical situation

I can promise you if you'd spend your life not being able to make your own decisions and being used as a living weapon constantly, the moment you'd gain free will you're most likely gonna want to do anything but fighting or training

[viscid ferry]

I started watching season 2 and it’s definitely an improvement from the previous season.

[opaque silo]

you might be so used to it though

[wild raft]

actually I can relate to Master Chief more than you know

[viscid ferry]

That opening fight was cool

[subtle crystal]

Exactly, that's why I said what I said

[viscid ferry]

I definitely would’ve preferred they just make a series that’s canon to the games but for what we’ve got I can see the potential

[subtle crystal]

You were also kidnapped at childhood with a clone of you taking your place, were trained to fight an upcoming alien threat and got a bunch of augmentation planted into your body?

[wild raft]

I was adopted

and brain washed

[opaque silo]

well original spartans were trained to fight against insurrectionists

[subtle crystal]

By a psychopathic genius? 😂
Not disrespecting, of course

I hope things are better today of course

[wise onyx]

I know this has been said, or not, but if master chief was out of the equation for this show, I mean the 3 Spartans from silver team would still be an interesting show, it gives them the freedom to get creative with their stories without pissing many people off, just what I think

[opaque silo]

i agree

[viscid ferry]

That’s true

[viscid ferry]

I hear other people say that they could’ve just made an ODST show instead

[ashen vector]

I thinks it's funny war crimes are still an issue when humanity is against Aliens, i don't think they care about war crimes

[wise onyx]

Even an ODST show or hell, even a show about an average squad of UNSC Marines or Army troopers would’ve also been fine

We could’ve got our own HALO “generation kill”

[viscid ferry]

That would’ve been nice

[ashen vector]

If they gave us an ODST show it better be rainy and jazzy

If they did a noble team they would have to exclude 6 imo.

[wise onyx]

Yea pretty much

[subtle crystal]

Oh god, imagine the complaining if they did a halo show without a Master Chief character

[wise onyx]

It’s almost as if they think that Master Chief is main focus of HALO and not overall the wars against the innies, covenant etc

[subtle crystal]

That's exactly what some people think. Why do you think these people are so angry at the helmet-off thingy?

[wild raft]

just give me more shows to think about

[ashen vector]

Eh I'm only mad about it because it breaks the illusion i guess, like some of the emotion is better when it comes from behind the helmet

[wise onyx]

Let’s be real, the people who complain about the helmet coming off are the ones who’ve only played HALO 3, im not saying HALO 3 is a bad game, I love HALO 3, I just used it as an example for people who basically get their perceptions based on the games alone

[ashen vector]

Why only halo 3

Like it's the guy from fortnite kid?

[wise onyx]

Ive seen reviews from grown men being mad about it as well, infact, their actually the ones saying the whole “PUT YOUR HELMET ON 🤬🤬” thing

[tawdry kestrel]

Most of the reviews I've seen is it's better than season one but could still use some improvement

[wise onyx]

Season 1 was lackluster I’ll give them that, but their kind of overreacting about the helmet thing

[tawdry kestrel]

Nah

[ashen vector]

Personally I don't think we have ever seen a chief without his helmet except the end of legendary halo 4. Or when he was still a kid in that little animated story when him and his team/friends blow up a covi ship

[tawdry kestrel]

He takes it off alot in the books

Bruh the whole keystone thing is literally a mcguffin

[ashen vector]

I never read the books so I didn't know but thanks for clarifying:>

[wise onyx]

I want to know what you guys think about the whole “blessed one” thing which is a human in the covenant

[ashen vector]

I wish i could send photos I have it paused on kwans face at an ugly point

Lol

[tawdry kestrel]

It's literally fixed every problem oh the pelican wasn't working touch the key stone Chief can't remember his homeworld touch the keystone chief is being overwhelmed by atriox makee touched the keystone

[ashen vector]

I think blessed ones is just reclaimers

[tawdry kestrel]

You'd be correct

[ashen vector]

That was Atriox!?

[tawdry kestrel]

Yes

[viscid ferry]

I had no idea that was supposed to be Atriox

[tawdry kestrel]

Closed captions confirmation it

[ashen vector]

Wow there is no outsmarting the bot

[wild raft]

What does the keystone represent?

[ashen vector]

fixes glasses nerd moment heh it was a condor

[tawdry kestrel]

That's why it sucks you can't just use the keystone when sometimes isn't working that's makes for bad story telling

Aka a McMuffin

It literally is

[ashen vector]

I guess I'm going back to take a look with it on this time

[tawdry kestrel]

It's after chief shoots him in the mouth in episode 9

[stiff osprey]

Can I just say this, I know fans are picking apart the series, but my wife as a non-gamer is completely enthralled with the show and its world. She asked me to play the games last night so she could just experience more of the world of Halo. I played Halo for a little bit and then remembered She hadn’t watched Forward Until Dawn. Now she’s asking for the books and where she should start. Despite fan feedback, I feel this series is successful in finding a new audience and I love that.

[ashen vector]

I'm not normally dumn but how. So i turn the CC on paramount? I don't see the little box for it

[ashen vector]

I tried to get my parents to watch it. They thought it was a Mando clone and my dad fell asleep. They have no experience with halo I should mention

I skipped it completely I only went back because someone said the monitor could be seen

[wise onyx]

I think that’s one of the positive things this show has done, basically introduce an entirely new audience to HALO which I can appreciate, I mean sure there’s people that don’t like it but no one can deny it’s attracting a new audience to not just the HALO show but to now other things within HALO

[tawdry kestrel]

Twas me

[ashen vector]

Was it towards the end? For when they say it's Atriox?

[fading anchor]

Question.
Anyone having issues where everything is too dark and can't see?

[ashen vector]

No might be a TV problem

[toxic warren]

That's awesome, thanks for sharing! 😄

[lyric zodiac]

i hope they give master chief cortana back

[subtle crystal]

Turn off HDR, Disney+ gave me the same problem