#halo-the-series-chat

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heady halo
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Plot armor

neon plover
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The artifact's EMP disabled everything. Except the Phantom because reasons

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Forerunner reverse-engineered tech, idk

teal nymph
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i shall nickname it "arty"

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?
ya know i got to say it was ok at first but i dunno man that seems generous
i dont think anyone expected for litteraly non of the side plots to intertwine half of the caste jsut end up doing completly seperate random stuff (madrigal moment)

safe flume
neon plover
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Please, allow me - BUTLR

safe flume
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thanks @neon plover

shell crown
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Hear me put on this...

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The halo show

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halo mid evolved

rigid spade
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Does the fall of reach work to

latent yoke
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since this is available in the UK now, what rating did it get?

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(age not reception)

toxic warren
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Trailer is rated 12A, looking for information on the show. Probably the same

slender pagoda
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Is it possible to play Halo Infinite on Xbox without playing against PC players?

toxic warren
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This channel is for discussing the Halo TV series

tawdry kestrel
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Oh

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That show was weird

uneven lintel
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I am definitely going to get a lot of hate for this, but i personally enjoyed it.

soft obsidian
hollow scroll
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I don't think there's any reason to hate on people who liked it, I just don't think that justifies holding the series up as an unequivocal success.

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It's hard to analogize, but if someone who doesn't care about the IP at all loves a piece of content, but then the people who are diehard fans of the IP dislike the content, that shouldn't be a green light telling creators to keep going that direction. Just my $.02

teal nymph
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Fallout has the guys who did westworld

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Westworld vs like 2 episodes of American dad
But they also gave transformers and tmnt to micheal bay

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It's not even a halo thing paramount in general has issues rn

mint ether
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wat do u guys think about spartan assault?

toxic warren
gaunt harbor
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It’s quite violent

modest hull
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I didn't even finish watching it

dusky nova
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The show is gloriously gory plus it's got nudity. It is rated R afaik.

hot breach
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38

tawdry kestrel
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I cried when chief said it was Halo Time a true cinematic masterpiece

mint ether
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same

warm niche
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Nice

lusty violet
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Truly the show of all time

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Especially when master chief earned his halo time power by eating a chunk of the halo

teal nymph
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The real halo was the friends we made along the way

ancient python
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I gave up on this series after the first 4 episodes. I wanted to like it, but just felt it was a poor production in so many ways that it was hard for me to get any enjoyment out of it.

lusty violet
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Then the master chief has to fight his best friend for the halo powers and goes into the halo verse.

north gyro
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Among7s

teal nymph
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Or read sorans actually story,
Pariah is REALLY good and if they just went along with it the show would have got a easy emmy

ancient python
teal nymph
tawdry kestrel
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When will there be more? Please tell me this series hasn't died already... that will be quite devastating! 😦

toxic warren
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Season 2 was greenlit just before Season 1 launched. Will be a while before it releases but there will be more

tender frigate
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I love you

opal iron
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Halo the series could be better (can’t say that it’s bad apparently)

toxic warren
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Straight up calling things 'trash' isn't very constructive or helpful. Say what you don't like about it and explain some reasons why

stray crater
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is the whole halo tv series out in the us in the uk on 8 out of 9 eps are out

ancient python
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It's underwritten and woodenly acted. Poor dialogue and poor acting kept me from being emotionally invested because the characters are not believable. The cinematography, specifically the lighting, gives it a bad aesthetic. The characters that are in the canon are written so differently in the show that they may as well be completely new characters. I found myself wondering why they even bothered to call the series "Halo" because it is so far removed from the Halo I know.

toxic warren
burnt zinc
teal nymph
dark pasture
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Alguien me puede decir cuánto tiempo tardan en darte el emblema del unicornio de hielo :c

tawdry kestrel
neat river
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Hey

teal nymph
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honestlty i still think kwans story has potential
probaly more than chiefs lmao

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if they kinda drop the weird timeline thing, like i know this isnt actually a Elseworlds story cmon, and use the correct inspiration and ideas i can see them really getting some inspiration ideas that would be intriguing. like the shows twitter was tagging greg bear in the kwan stuff but never actually used his ideas which is... weird.

modest hull
teal nymph
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I actually want kwan to return and get more character development

kindred fossil
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was pretty trash and terrible show tbh

toxic warren
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Keep it constructive please

wispy basin
# kindred fossil was pretty trash and terrible show tbh

Admittedly, I quite like it. Its not so much mastercheif like in the games, but I don't really mind it, because of the way its put, you can get character development a lot more.

The great thing is that you can see who are the real spartans, even without the pellet, aka, Master Chef and Kai.

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I do want to see season 2, but I want to see master chef come back, and him and Cortana working together again

hard pecan
cloud spindle
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I'm speechless that was life wasted to watch

low hedge
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I really do feel like the creators of the show ignored everything special about master chief's character, and tried to specialize him in a very stupid generic way, which was unneeded

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Master chief is special, in the way that he is basically the representative of the best of humanity. Someone made a really good video about it

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This show however, completely ignored that

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They made master chief look like a depressed teenager rather than a badass soldier being the only hope left for humanity

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I want my 9 hours back, Red vs Blue was better.

median tiger
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I personally have a complaint about tv show halo. Why Master Chief always clapping cheeks? And why do we see his face? The later is a disgrace to what Bungie worked so hard on. Don't get me wrong 343i did a ok job an every thing they did but I personally would have liked to see a different Halo 4 where there is a different plot line that would have had the Elites still as allies to Master Chief and helped him clear through tons of Promethions. I also dislike the fact that they brought back Cortana in Halo 5 after her super sad sacrifice in Halo 4. How am I supposed to believe that she actually died in Halo Infinite Campaign?

sturdy knot
teal nymph
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you know honestly i really have no idea what happened the development was beyond a mess and i feel like the best argument for it is "its better than picard" which is true i guess but man i really have no idea how this show came to being. like a adaptiation should have been so easy, the early game of thrones seasons were made by the guys who made XMAN ORGINS WOLVERINE and it was good because they just... adapted stuff

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thankfully the new showrunner wiener has experiance in adapting sci fi

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so thats good

median tiger
sturdy knot
# median tiger Yes but....

Hehehe I’m just messing around, I think it’s a bit silly too but I just consider it it’s own piece of media.

teal nymph
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since in the show it looks like no one cares id have to take all the work

sturdy knot
teal nymph
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I'd say it was pretty close to being good but missed to mark

toxic warren
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Finally got to see the last episode here in the UK - wow. I loved every minute of watching this.

The music, the casting, little quotes from the games, every time I seen something I recognized lol, some really cool action scenes and the most important part - a Scottish accent being one of the first things I hear 😂

Very much looking forward to season 2 and hopefully a few more seasons after that!

teal nymph
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Let's hope paramount can clean showtimes mess

little anvil
toxic warren
teal nymph
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Obviously not then

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Honestly those guys in the beginning seemed like way better characters than what we got

little anvil
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Shrug

tawdry kestrel
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GUYS not to be a flex but I would join this server and say my mum knows someone who was in the paramount movie halo I want to watched it but I want to but she was in it for a short time

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Sorry my grammer I can't see properly with covid

crude aspen
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I wish they can make a T Pain spartan

teal nymph
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If ice tea could be a detective anything is possible

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I really need to watch brave new world to get a gist of what the next season is gonna be like

ocean aurora
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There is a TV-MA Star Trek show on Paramount+... but the Halo show is TV-14? How did that happen?! That's completely backwards.

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What crazy opposite-day timeline is this where Star Trek has a Mature rating while Halo has Teen?!

toxic warren
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Ratings don't really matter much anyway

plucky raven
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I beg to differ

finite steppe
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yes

teal nymph
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Have you seen twilight?

gusty quarry
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It would be cool in the future they could maybe if a halo 3 odst 2 could be made

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Anyone agree

tawdry kestrel
long parrot
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where can i ask question with a problem i have downloading halo?
cause after it reaches 4gb on series s downloads with 1mbps only,all other games i tried downloads with 90mps

toxic warren
long parrot
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ty

red sigil
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any word on when the drop pod will be released? supposed to be today, no?

toxic warren
spare nova
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It was something of a disappointment 😦

blissful shore
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Do u think the flood wd be on s2?

spare nova
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Like I’m going to watch s2

blissful shore
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Yes

hollow scroll
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There's a chance, but I think if they're going the direction they've been telegraphing, it'll be a case of MAYBE seeing the Flood in S3.

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Either that, or the Flood will be completely underwhelming 🤷‍♂️

wide vigil
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Did anybody watch the show and actually enjoy it ALREADY knowing the halo storyline? never watched it but from what iv heard its the exact reason why nobody wanted a halo movie or tv show. like, the masterchief has smooosh smoosh? like, they didnt think theyd do a good enough job with story they already had? they had to take steamers on the story we know? Honestly curious.

toxic warren
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Yes, I enjoyed it

winged crescent
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Will there be a halo series season 2

toxic warren
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There will be yes, it was greenlit just before Season 1 launched in the US

grave patio
winged crescent
teal nymph
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could be worse
look at what they did to tmnt

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or tranformers

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at least makee is a adult (looking at you tranformers age of extinction)

peak vigil
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would have been better if mike erhmantraut was in it

tawdry kestrel
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man in season two they NEED to bring SGT Johnson and the arbiter, and also it needs more action, more large fights more large ship duels in space

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more combat

teal nymph
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Show needed some charisma Just in general

jolly linden
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They should make this more like Stargate SG-1 which was a real serious toned military sci fi show, master chief should return to his stoic nature, add in more halo music, space combat, ground combat, and more interesting Forerunner tech that's epic in scale like a Halo or the Ark.

teal nymph
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I've never seen Stargate show, which is weird cuz I love the movie

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The production should be alot smoother now that the show isn't bouncing between studios

jade oar
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I realized halo broke the rules showing chiefs face in the first episode

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The games are much better

teal nymph
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The sky is blue

spare nova
spare nova
verbal rose
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I wanna watch just to see how mediocre it is

teal nymph
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I hope they go to a more canon version of halsey later, I prefer the complexity and nuance of her canon counterpart

pine quiver
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hey

spare nova
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Hey?

tawdry kestrel
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Does anyone know when episodes are gonna come out again?

toxic warren
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Probably be at least a year or 2 before we see season 2 launch

teal nymph
half wyvern
tawdry kestrel
half wyvern
tawdry kestrel
muted lance
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I feel like the show would've been more well recieved by Halo fans if they didn't try to jam in major characters from the canon (Chief, Keyes, etc.) while butchering their characters and disregarding their presentation in the game. Give us a random Spartan IV who's dumb as rocks and emotional as Chief is here, would've been a lot more digestible in my opinion.

wary sand
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Now add sargent Johnson

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all problems can be fixed by adding sargent Johnson

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Unless of course he neither looks nor acts like he does in the games

slate yacht
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First season was epic

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It got me into Halo

spare nova
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I just dont get how low budget films such as forward unto dawn or Halo the fall of Reach were done so much better.

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Not night fall

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I take the halo series s1 over night fall

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Its close

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But still

pine quiver
little anvil
# spare nova I just dont get how low budget films such as forward unto dawn or Halo the fall ...

Neither were low budget from what I remember. You look at the sheer amount of extras at CAMS in FuD and the fact they borrowed an entire community college for the campus and you tell me thats a "cheap" film.
And while Fall of Reach might have been animated...it still wasnt a cheap thing to make. Theres a reason they didnt do the entire book (thought they should have, I dont know WHY they named it "Fall of Reach" if we dont EVER SEE REACH)

spare nova
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Cheap compared to the show

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Very cheap

little anvil
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Do we know what the shows budget was? Ive seen a lot of numbers yeeted around but no confirmation.

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Paramount better have kept those props when they're done with them. I wanna buy that Needler.
And maybe the Keystone too. I want that in my room, I dont CARE how expensive it is

toxic warren
little anvil
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1v1, Guardian, BRs only, no motion tracker XD

toxic warren
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Chiron, plasma pistol only, half shields 😝

little anvil
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Oh we're goin OLD SCHOOL

blissful shore
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Question

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When did master cheeks created

muted lance
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What

rigid goblet
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56HY

hushed zenith
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I’m just ready to see Master Cheeks kid

hearty steppe
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he'll be named johnathan probably

modest hull
spare nova
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Yeah your probably right

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Season 1 was not good by any stretch of the imagination

south crane
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#jervalinasmasterchief

toxic warren
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@tawdry kestrel Not something for this server

tawdry kestrel
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I mean i could say the same for halo infinite on steam

spare nova
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?

uneven lintel
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Yo

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Can i be honest with halo infinite?

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I am personally not complaining about it. Now I dont want any bad comments about my opinion tbh. Along with my opinion on the halo tv show

toxic warren
ocean aurora
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I noticed that Halo's been moved to the very back of the Originals list on Paramount+. Probably doesn't mean anything, but I choose to hope it's a sign that 343i have seen the light, decided to quietly forget this series, and chose instead to create an actual Halo show that would have guaranteed them a slam-dunk success.

toxic warren
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Season 2 is more than likely going to continue the story from S1

ocean aurora
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Shows get canceled all the time for less. There doesn't have to be a Season 2.

toxic warren
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It could, but S2 has already been greenlit

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I wouldn't want them to cancel the show

ocean aurora
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I'd rather they cancel now and put the resources into something with more passion behind it, rather than drag out this hollow series for years to come. Like a collaboration with Oats Studios or something.

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This series existing means that an actual Halo show is still very, very far away. Otherwise general audiences will get confused. It's taking up space for something that could be much better and have a far greater/more lasting impact.

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Imagine if the large influx of people they posted about watching episode 1 had actually enjoyed what they saw. I wonder what the drop off rate was between the first three episodes. So many people are chomping at the bit for an authentic Halo show.

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Halo could have easily been the show to prove that video game adaptations can work. It could have made history... again. Worldwide hit. Cultural icon. Instead, it chose to follow every crummy adaptation stereotype in the book and become a forgettable mush. It's looking now like Last of Us show might take that trophy instead, looking at the people behind it.

toxic warren
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Don't think it's fair to everyone involved to say there was no passion behind this

ocean aurora
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I mean, the crews in the trenches clearly had passion, but the people in charge quite obviously did not.

toxic warren
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They absolutely did

ocean aurora
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Passion for what they were creating, yes. Every creator does. Passion for Halo? No.

toxic warren
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No, it is still a yes

ocean aurora
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I got the strong impression while watching that the people in charge thought of Halo as "that video game or whatever." I can't speak for them, but that is the gut feeling the show and its surrounding articles/interviews gave me.

valid kraken
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I had finally gotten around to watching and.. i just dont know how i feel about it

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ffesl weird that they showed Chiefs face off rip

spare nova
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Show runners clearly had never heard the Mandalorian and the serious dosh that raked in.

spare nova
hushed zenith
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Personally I didn’t like the costumes for the Spartans

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Mainly because they should have had mark V armor

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And I think if they had master chief fully wearing mark V for all of season one and most of season two then chief dawns the mark VI for the season finale would have been cool

lucid steppe
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I think they need to keep chiefs helmet on

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I need a more realistic Chief, not an actor. Keeping his helmet on is a part of chiefs identity. Keeping it off and giving Chief a face that isn’t lore accurate just kinda bugs me.

nova escarp
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they should have more playable charicters and distribute more minifigures

toxic warren
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This channel is for discussing the Halo TV show

spare nova
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Yes

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Yes it is 👍

verbal rose
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Watched all of it

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It’s ok I guess if you aren’t hell bent on the lore

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But it could have been a bit better

spare nova
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Just a bit

verbal rose
amber egret
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Forward unto dawn was fine, not amazing but much more enjoyable than the tv show

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John halo is there instead of jimothy rhombus

rotund hamlet
ocean aurora
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Chief takes his helmet off all the time, just not on an active battlefield or while otherwise on-mission. Besides, you can have Chief remove his helmet in secure, sensible locations (like a UNSC base or ship) and still get creative with camera angles or shadows to avoid showing his face.

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Chief in the show acts like his helmet is a hindrance or a cumbersome burden when the reality is... the HUD provides such a helpful flow of analytical information, private team-to-team communication channels, temperature regulation, air filters, etc etc... he should never want to take it off.

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Walking around with his helmet removed while off-base should feel like he left the house without his wallet, phone... or clothes.

spare nova
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Having a mandalorian approach to the master chief would definitely have been a lot better.

lucid steppe
ocean aurora
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Show us Chief's face throughout his childhood and training on Reach, right up to the exact moment he first pulls the helmet over his eyes. Never show it again. The last thing you see is his unnervingly young, almost unnatural, post-augmentation appearance as the helmet locks into place. Then, near the end of the series, give us that final reveal: Heavily scarred, gaunt, sullen, and pale. So much so that he's essentially a different person entirely. Like those portraits of soldiers pre- and post WWI. (Just spitballing how Chief's face could possibly be handled in visual media.)

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(I think they nailed the appearance of young Spartans in Forward Unto Dawn.)

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Tangent, but this show is set something like 20+ years into the Covenant war, right? Did the Spartans have any battle scars or signs of extended stress/combat on their face at all? They seemed fairly normal.

verbal rose
ocean aurora
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Six years of brutal, non-stop fighting should still have some sort of visible effect on the body at least. These guys spend half their time in hostile environments without a helmet on, their faces should be all kinds of messed up ha.

spare nova
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I never felt like the covenant was an existential threat to humanity.

sour nebula
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Why can I not get through the series?

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I want to love it T.T

spare nova
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Everyone wanted to love it. It was merely not worthy

chilly rivet
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Heheheha

indigo pier
chilly rivet
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Lol

honest sorrel
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i enjoyed it

candid prairie
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i liked it

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although kwan ha was just annoying

nova escarp
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kwan ha is cool

lapis barn
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No.
No she isn’t.

lapis laurel
# candid prairie i liked it

Same. I'm actually looking forward to season 2. I just hope they get some better writers for the Kwan Ha character.

hushed zenith
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I hope they get better writers in general who actually know stuff about the series. Even then I don’t think the show is redeemable.

cyan nymph
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Nah they should of stuck to anime

candid prairie
spare nova
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I tell you what. They should of done a halo series based off Kelly Gay’s halo series smoke and shadow, renegades and point of light. That would have been a sick show.

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She does good job with writing the characters and tells a compelling story that’s easily adaptable into a series.

chilly rivet
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Lol

shell stump
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🤜😢

mystic thunder
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A lot of complaining, wow. Just saw all 9 episodes today. It was an entertaining show, thank you.

olive stag
chilly rivet
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Lol

south cloak
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🤨

eager sand
naive fable
willow path
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Did chief replace someone in Silver team? would explain why he is the only one with a different armor color

glacial escarp
chilly stream
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this show was a dumpster fire

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"wE DiDn'T lOoK At ThE gAmEs"

little anvil
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Your take is old my dude, they discredited that post MONTHS ago

toxic warren
hushed zenith
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Yet they couldn’t really get anything right besides the name of characters 😒

tawdry kestrel
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I think they could save the show if they add ODST in the show

naive fable
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Personally I think a more entertaining show would be about what chief, arby and Locke were doing before and during halo infinite

little anvil
tender nest
lime haven
chilly glen
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Honestly it's still disappointing to know that they looked at the canon and decided to not use it. To not look at the canon and make stuff up is upsetting. But to look at the canon, that which made Halo so popular and likeable in the first place, and deem it not worthy? That's worse to me. Again, you can make something non-canon but keep the same elements and don't drastically change the characters that we know and love. Hopefully this is improved upon in season 2, or any other future works, but if not it won't be surprising.

sharp crown
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so it's canceled right?

neon plover
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No it's not. Season 1 has ended and season 2 was greenlit before season 1 even aired.

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If it was cancelled we'd know by now

hardy plaza
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the series sucked

hardy plaza
spring grottoBOT
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hardy plaza
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😭

toxic warren
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Let's try and keep it constructive please. It's fine not to like things, but just saying things like "it sucked" or "it's trash" isn't helpful. A little more explanation of what you didn't like, what you might change, what you think done well or was good but could have been better. S.M.A.R.T approach to feedback is the way to go

hardy plaza
fresh mica
ocean aurora
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It’s kind of crazy that, for 15 years, I’ve been hoping against hope for a Halo TV show, but now… I cling to an equally thin shred of hope for news of a Halo TV show’s cancellation. Funny how that goes.

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I suppose there’s no chance now of seeing a big budget live action media set in the world of Halo. That’s truly a shame.

sand isle
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Series would've been good if not for the non canon stuff

lethal bridge
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The Halo Series was decent. In that universe everyone just happens to make stupid decisions lmao.

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Spartan Kai is a treasure tho.

sharp crown
sour nebula
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I think if you can separate the universes it is a really solid show. Unfortunately for me I have a really hard time separating them 😭

hushed zenith
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I’m also just curious who’s bright idea it was to remove chief’s helmet

drowsy hull
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Haven't seen the 1 Season, only some YT videos and clips.
And I won't ever watch it.
I was really excited for it but they ruined it

royal zephyr
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I honestly felt like if they focused their efforts on events such as Contact Harvest, it would have been amazing

drowsy stirrup
tawdry kestrel
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Hi guys

keen onyx
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Hello

winged crescent
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Hiiii

glossy root
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honestly I hope we dont even get season 2

naive fable
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If we do they better right off the first season as some prolonged nightmare sequence that happened to the chief

toxic warren
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Season 2 has already been greenlit, it will follow on from what happens in Season 1

next wren
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fight me. i actually enjoyed watching the show. I agree that there was some weird blunders, but it was an alright show overall. But why is chiefs armour a different colour to the rest of silver teams ????

minor sequoia
limber roost
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I do not remember them talking about any other spartan teams in the show

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And to further enforce my reasoning is the fact that even the guy who escaped the spartan program even had a grey/black armor

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It's just to show their so called broader audience who chief is, because to the 100 people who don't know who chief is, the other silver team armor would look like a blend of black and fret

elder granite
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I see why the show may be franchiseable just not a fan of master chief having you know what with the spy

tawdry kestrel
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Man paramount plus is the most awful streaming site ever. 24/7 lag every 10-15 seconds. Wished they put the series on netflix or hulu or anything else because this is just awful even with 125mbps wifi

tawdry kestrel
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The Halo TV show is the worst thing to happen to Halo since… well… the last time 343 did something.

tawdry kestrel
stiff wagon
turbid surge
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I just wanna share this it stupid my first impresion of halo was that arcade game

mint ether
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huh

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wat game

minor sequoia
mint ether
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oh

turbid surge
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yep firteam raven thats the one

ancient monolith
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hi

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i suck at halo has anyane some simple tips

toxic warren
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You're looking for #general-chat or one of the game channels of it's for a specific game

daring wind
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anyone know what the tv show is streaming on?

hollow scroll
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Paramount+ is the only one I'm currently aware of. I don't remember what it is in Euro/Asian markets...

daring wind
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Sad, I don’t have paramount+ :(

silent niche
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In UK you can get P+ separately now, or as an extension to Amazon Prime. Not sure if that applies to whole Europe

hushed zenith
fair sinew
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What if in infinite Master Chief was like stop wining and backhands the pilot dude

fair otter
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Yeah or he pops him on the head

harsh elm
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Glad this server has a chat dedicated to how atrocious the TV show was

toxic warren
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Not everyone thinks it was bad

jaunty bison
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Don't expect it to last after season 2.

shrewd coyote
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Hello

surreal reef
indigo lotus
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If you don't think its bad it means you are a Halo fanboy, being one myself I totally get it, but you have to be self-aware

toxic warren
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People are allowed to enjoy things without being labeled a 'fanboy'

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fast grail
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dont you feel stupid

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fast grail
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i dont care cool rule

toxic warren
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No, I don't. I still like it :)

fast grail
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ur a discord user just like everyone else im allowed to reply to ur message ahahaha

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And as a server rule ask users to turn off the ping/tag before replying

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fast grail
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woah oky im sorry please

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please stickerboy

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ur the best mod 🙏 byee

jaunty bison
toxic warren
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k

jaunty bison
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How dare you.

hardy panther
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I haven’t watched the show yet anyone know where I can watch it at?

toxic warren
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Streams on Paramount+
You can access it via Sky and Amazon Prime, maybe other services depending on your region

hardy panther
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Ok thank you

tawdry kestrel
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I can't wait for season 2

tawdry kestrel
idle yoke
tawdry kestrel
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Ehere can i watch the series?

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Halo series

toxic warren
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If you have Game Pass, there should still be (I think) a free trial available

tawdry kestrel
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Ok

eternal pine
toxic warren
tawdry kestrel
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covenant on their way to Glass Iceland to delay production

toxic warren
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They won't stand a chance against Silver team :)

tawdry kestrel
bleak wraith
dense pollen
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ded show lol

toxic warren
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So dead another season just started production

oblique linden
umbral prawn
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Hello there

tawdry kestrel
limber roost
ocean aurora
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Man, Edgerunners and Arcane both really rubbing that salt in the wound over what a passion project can be, eh? Why can't Halo get that treatment?

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It's like the showrunners are embarrassed to be associated with Halo or something. Annoyed about being stuck with "that videogame or whatever."

bronze oxide
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Currently doing a rewatch

modest glade
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One of the things I like about the first Halo game was how the campaign began, the setting of isolation of a sole large carrier and it's crew in an alien system, venturing into the mysterious and unknown. I hope they carry over some of that into the second season.

knotty niche
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Halo 2 da best ?

hallow estuary
limber roost
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This alternative timeline boutta be canonical because it's so much better

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Wish they died off in the comics so they don't get on screen stuff just like the didact

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Plus the story line in the show and silver timeline is much better than whatever nonsense bungie produced

grand dagger
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looking forward to season 2

vivid mica
tawdry kestrel
mint ether
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lol

limber roost
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Yuck

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Silver timeline so good, much better than whatever bungie has put out in their weak attempt at a good sci fi character driven story with chief

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And I think the show needs more Spartans in it to be even better

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Much like how in halo 5 there were a lot of good looking spartans

tawdry kestrel
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And it sounds like you're being forced to say all of this.

ocean aurora
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You've got to slow the boat down and vary your speeds to troll properly. Can't just go full blast like that, Abyss.

tawdry kestrel
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cringe..

tawdry kestrel
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@tawdry kestrel spitting fax

lofty dock
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Pretty sure abyss is joking people...

verbal fox
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I know its sarcasm, but even secured in that knowledge he still causes my blood to boil

steady grotto
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No way rvb chat

slate quartz
novel bear
grand dagger
ocean aurora
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Well, at least Andor now exists to fill this grounded SciFi shaped hole that Halo left behind as it ejected its characters, quality, and setting into the stratosphere.

quasi storm
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Master Chief took his helmet wayyyy too much, it should’ve been like the mandalorian. Take off the helmet rarely.

quasi storm
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If there is a season 2, which is unlikely, I won’t care, the halo show was truly the nail in the coffin that 343 is not worthy of the mantle.

toxic warren
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Season 2 was greenlit before Season 1 launched and was confirmed to be in production a few days ago

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If you don't have anything constructive or useful to add to the channel, please don't bother

quasi storm
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Maybe you should add a meaningful update to halo infinite.

toxic warren
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I don't work for 343

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And that's irrelevant to the show

fast grail
toxic warren
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You can certainly be negative, but the rules for posting here are that you need to be constructive. If all you're coming to do is call the show trash or call 343 bad, you can find another server to do it on

formal void
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Season 1 was fine

faint heath
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They should've made the show take place in halo wars

untold cloak
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Ok so imma speedrun this chat room: TV show bad, Master cheeks is a whiny mf

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Bruh really tho, mans whining about the fact he got kidnapped to save humanity

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But no one is talking about the one spartan who had his death faked so he could train a bunch of whiny emo toddlers

tawdry kestrel
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Yeah sounds bout right season 2 needs to be more lore accurate like halo 4 forward unto dawn that movie was lore accurate

formal void
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Something doesn't have to be lore accurate to be good
Besides, making it like that would make it boring, if they're gonna show you something that happened in a book or a game without changes, then I could just read the books or play the games

median cairn
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Should I watch the halo series

toxic warren
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I'd say it's always worth giving something a try. You may like it, you may not.
I tend to ignore reviews and just watch stuff - found some really cool films and shows that way

fast grail
ocean aurora
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It's as if the studio were handed a gold mine, but chose to discard its gold in favor of the surrounding rock. "I mean, that stuff's everywhere so it must be popular!" I just don't get it.

ocean aurora
shell crypt
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Why were they using AKs and Chevy Tahoes in the show?

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Its like 500 years in the future.

livid sphinx
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as an example about how much they care

toxic warren
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I've seen similar things in Star Trek before, don't see why this is such a bad thing

shell crypt
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shell crypt
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Sorry

toxic warren
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Perfectly plausible for things to survive for multiple hundreds of years

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Also doesn't need to be that old, could simply be similar items built more recently

shell crypt
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But for these colonists to have perfectly preserved rifles, and a truck in that condition still able to operate?

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After 500 years

toxic warren
shell crypt
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Fair

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But they all have one?

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I could understand one person having one

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Like they built it as a tribute to the original weapon.

toxic warren
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If it's an ideal vehicle for the terrain, don't see why not. Doesn't always make sense to sit and design futuristic space vehicles for everything.
Also this is like the outer colonies, yeah?

shell crypt
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There’s already a vehicle in halo lore designed for that though.

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The Spade.

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I’m just saying maybe they weren’t thinking too much about it, but it doesn’t make any sense from a logical standpoint.

fast grail
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yeah i guess so i like the AK though

shell crypt
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I’m just saying it doesn’t make sense.

fast grail
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i can imagine they have very cheap easy to make simple schematic just to really quickly mass produce guns based on a very old design that's been tested by time

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i guess

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the tahoe though is kinda harder to explain imo

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one of the least of my concerns about the show i dont think its such a big deal

shell crypt
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I know, but it still would have been cooler to see the spade.

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Also your theory on the guns actually makes sense now that I think of it.

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You can 3D print guns.

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Which that’s just today.

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Ok I apologize the guns could make sense.

toxic warren
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Maybe we could see it for Season 2, S1 was hampered a little due to COVID

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Spade, that is

shell crypt
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Hopefully, I really want to see some more things from the games brought in.

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Unrelated to the show, but I also want to see some halo wars vehicles in an FPS halo.

tepid mason
formal void
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Why do most people give "Odd one out" from Halo Legends a pass while at the same time heavily hate the paramount show? Is it because that Halo Legends short is non canon? Well, this show is not canon either. Is it because that short was funny? Being funny wouldn't excuse it from the fact that it was dumb and a very inaccurate representation of the Halo universe

west gazelle
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I honestly prefer the show over that short, but I genuinely enjoyed the show because I know its not canon

verbal fox
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I don't give Odd One Out a pass. I hated it.

Odd One Out however didn't do anything to Chief, or to the lore. It didn't even try to twist it in any way. New character, new location, etc. It was never peddled as main line or heavily advertised, it wasn't a "reinvisioning" of Halo canon, and it was released with other, canon shorts. You had other choices in the same medium.
It was completely and utterly isolated from any events in Halo.

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The Silver Timeline, though, takes something we love, and beats it over and over again with a rusty lead pipe, then takes a butcher's knife and chops it to pieces, then tosses it into a blender with Hollywood tropes powered by a car engine, then sets it on fire while in the blender.

fast grail
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it’s like a 7 year old trying to make up reasons to get ice cream for dinner

formal void
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Care to explain why?

fast grail
fast grail
formal void
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But why? you haven't explained why the comparison makes no sense

fast grail
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why can’t i have ice cream? ice cream is food too. it also contains calories. doesn’t make it not food.

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like yeah its a bad comparison i guess i’m basically just calling your whole statement bad and saying it’s like you have a child’s understanding of the thing you’re saying

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that’s all

formal void
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But you haven't explained it besides an incomplete analogy that no one even understood

fast grail
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the only people not understanding are people like you lmao there isn’t even a reason to put it in words you can understand

formal void
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Now you're just being toxic

fast grail
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lol

fast grail
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grasping at straws for reasons you can feel not stupid for liking something that's terrible

formal void
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Yes it is something I can compare to, they are both non canon, and they both adapt a story that doesn't exist
Yes I know the show adapts and references canon events, but the story itself is original

fast grail
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the story poos on master chief imo

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kinda like the suicide squad movie example i gave, like everybody hated that over it pooing on characters

formal void
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When has a videogame adaptation ever been 100% accurate to the source material?

fast grail
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i'm not asking for that idk why you're attached to that

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i just think the show sucked regardless

formal void
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Because I'm looking for a legitimate reason to dislike the show and not just opinions

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who deleted that it wasnt the bot

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fast grail
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thanks busy bee!

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such a hard worker

fast grail
# formal void Because I'm looking for a legitimate reason to dislike the show and not just opi...

oh as for that, you could like it and all its ok but we're just gonna think ur opinion sucks, and i guess "a legitimate reason" to not like it would be that it's a waste of opportunity making a halo show that nobody likes except people like u with minority opinions when they could have made something good or better, but i dunno i'm sure another film adaptation could exist in the future i dont think this ruins the chances of that

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just finished episode 9, i'm trying to hard to enjoy the series but it's really bad

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i just can't enjoy this at all

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especially after episode 8. yikes.

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i love halo so i want to enjoy this but i just can't, it's a terrible depiction of halo

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it's like someone who played 20 minutes of halo wrote it with help from someone who's only recollection of halo is from them playing when they were like 9 on their older brothers console

boreal shard
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I haven’t watched yet, so I can’t read the chat (not fussing about the convo, just means I’m not reading replies/prior messages), but I saw that Walmart+ membership now provided free access to Paramount+ streaming, that should allow people (like myself) the opportunity to watch. Hopefully this helps someone else who hasn’t had the chance yet. 🙂 Please delete if not allowed. 🙂

toxic warren
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You can also get a free trial via Xbox Game pass and some other promotions

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Think Game Pass is 30 days

silent ember
toxic warren
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Keep it constructive please

cerulean plover
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My favorite part was when they had master chief's master cheeks on screen for no reason

formal void
fast grail
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i think people should be allowed to eat garbage if they’d like it’s just weird

formal void
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If you don't have actual arguments to say it's bad then you shouldn't say "it's trash"
You should say "I think it's trash" instead

fast grail
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it's trash

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most of us hate it

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you're arguing in favor of black licorice

formal void
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So numbers are an argument now?
Star Wars episode 8 was amazing because it killed it at the box office

fast grail
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?

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didnt this show make good numbers

formal void
# fast grail most of us hate it

"most of us hate it"
So what are you proving? That most people have bad taste and don't understand how adaptations work I'm assuming

fast grail
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lol now you're the one stating subjective things objectively

formal void
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If you can't give an objective reason to dislike the show then I can objectively assume you lack critical thinking

fast grail
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dude all i am saying is that most people do not like the show, they think it is a mockery of the video game franchise halo and we're allowed to be like "wth is this show even lmaooo"

toxic warren
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If you have constructive feedback about the show, feel free to comment. If all you're here to do is say it's trash then please don't bother

fast grail
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i just think this guy is really wacked out of his mind, i mean he's arguing in favor of black licorice and saying that most people have bad taste

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it's kinda bonkers man

formal void
fast grail
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like lmao?

formal void
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They literally told you to keep it constructive

fast grail
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it's actually ridiculous

formal void
toxic warren
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Back on topic now, thanks.

charred plume
# formal void That's exactly an ad hominem

And @fast grail is right overall. The general reception of the show was lackluster at best. Just because you like the show doesn't mean

"That most people have bad taste and don't understand how adaptations work.."

  1. That your opinion is superior to the opinions of the general Halo fans' audience
  2. or that he is using a ad hominem fallacy by calling your opinion a 'minority opinion'. That's a statement of fact based on the overall Halo fans' reception the series.

edited for correction.

formal void
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The ad hominem comes from messing with other people's profile pictures

charred plume
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Well you addressed the ad hominem accusation to him claiming

"you're a minority weird opinion that not many people hold and you're just being weird by arguing so valiantly in favor of this widely disliked thing"

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So I stand corrected, that comment about pfp would be an ad hominem. My apologies. But the way it was replied contextually to a different statement - no, that's not an ad hominem.

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With that said, there is nothing wrong with criticism of the show but I agree with Stckr's comment:

If you have constructive feedback about the show, feel free to comment. If all you're here to do is say it's trash then please don't bother
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formal void
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It doesn't suck

winter tangle
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There is a Halo seires?

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Is this the game series or am I thinking a tv show series?

obtuse jay
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it uhhhhhhh, lets just say there wasnt much fight, but love

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but the fight sequences were actually really cool.

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hopefully we get some more in the next season

tawdry kestrel
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Is this channel only meant for the Paramount+ Halo series?

trim belfry
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Most likely. And the only thing I can think of that's a good thing is the Spartan armor. But that is based on the Forward Unto Dawn Chief armor. The UNSC uniforms are based on Star Trek Discovery season 3 uniforms and the Covenant incontinencies are numerous.

toxic warren
verbal fox
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Oh oh oh my favorite topic, why the Halo TV Series is bad.

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Here I'll start: Get rid of the Starship trooper helmets. I don't care that they were leftovers, get actual Marine helmets so you can pretend to look like you actually care about Halo.

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Forward Unto Dawn, on a much lower budget, at least cared to make the Marines look like Marines, not just pick up Army surplus OCP uniforms and recycled helmets and armor.

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Insurrection plotline should be scrapped. Its boring, its dumb, and it detracts from Humanity's fight for survival, which has less than ten minutes of screen time as is.

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You've broken your main character so much, violated who the Master Chief is so greatly, that the only hope to fix this mess is to never, ever have him remove his helmet ever again. Jimmy Rings has become so disassociated from the Master Chief because of how terrible the writers and directors are. People like Vanick more than him. You took a good character and just assassinated it. Butchered. Eviscerated. Like an Infection Form to a body, you tore it to pieces and remade it into a new, gruesome image from nightmares.

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And just like the Flood, you retained only a semblance of the knowledge and memories that made them great, that made Master Chief beloved, but that matters little to the Flood, just like it matters little to Paramount.

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Just like the Forerunners, we need to fire the Halo Rings and put an end to this Infection. It is too far gone to be saved. There is no cure but to wipe out the show.

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And start over

fast grail
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no but thats all opinion you have to say “i think” before you say any of that!!!!

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also please stop saying you dont like the show this channel is for love only thank you

formal void
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Why would you be mad about the Master Chief being different from the games when his childhood and the concept of Cortana itself are different from the games in the first place
Of course he's not gonna behave like his videogame counterpart with those differences

verbal fox
# formal void Why would you be mad about the Master Chief being different from the games when ...

That is part of the problem! There was no good reason for them to change his childhood and upbringing as presented in the Fall of Reach.
Those suppressant chips in the spin? Utter hollywood garbage, completely unnecessary and made solely as a plot control device by amateur writers. In the end it does nothing more than push a terrible plot forward and benefits no one.
Cortana being imbeded in Chief's skull? What is this, 1984 or Halo? Another terrible, nonsensical decision. Like, how did such an idea even come to fruition? Could it be that the writers obviously lacked understanding of Doctor Halsey and decided to go full mad scientist with her, not the growingly regretful woman whose conscience is eating at her? There is zero nuance, just black and white tropes.
Halo through Hollywood is like the Ten Commandants through Congress.

ionic star
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Don't know who they think wants a Season 2 of this dumpster fire

toxic warren
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Me

ionic star
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Critically speaking, it isn't good even if it wasn't meant to be set in the Halo universe. The quality of the writing is laughably low, feels about as corporate as one could make it. Only bright spot of the show is the costuming for the Spartans, but it's not enough to save it.

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I actually think I have to question the faculties of anyone that genuinely finds this show to be worth watching, it couldn't really be much worse than it is, in or out of its relativity to Halo

ionic star
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nocturne zinc
fallow lotus
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I liked the adaptation of the tv show compared to the game.

It was nice to see a different side of chief.

Am excited for season 2 and how it plays out

Don’t hate

odd kayak
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i wish The Babysitter from Halo Legends got a full length TV series....

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it was so good

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||"You're the only one who can do it take the shot"||

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24 episodes, same ODST squad, different missions, many (non-Chief) Spartans, couldve been so sick

ionic star
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It wasn't a different side of Chief, it wasn't Chief at all. And I'm all for exploring the character, but it should be done thoughtfully and tactfully. What we got was a trope at best, with poor motivation and even worse plot structuring

nocturne zinc
nocturne zinc
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@formal void Well the reason it gets a pass is the fact they used a different Spartan to be talkative, and not the chief. If they were to use Master Chief then it doesn't really fit Master Chief character, but the show decides to milk the chief instead of using another Spartan. The massive reason so many Halo fans do not like Master Chief's depiction in the show is because it's completely a different alternative character with John's armor. Imagine if DC decides to turn Superman into a cynical, violent, dishonest, anti hero, how do you think DC fans will feel?

I don't mind trying to humanize John 117, however how it was handled was just God awful.

nocturne zinc
limber roost
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Uhhh yikes

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What's wrong bungie brain? Can't handle a good story or something?

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With good character development?

nocturne zinc
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There's no development in the show, explain to me how it's has development. I can tell you as someone who's seen it twice there's no development in the chief.

Also name calling won't get you anywhere in an adult conversation.

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You also clearly never a) played the Bungie games or b) you did but you skipped all the cutscenes.

limber roost
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sorry but i play for gameplay thanks

nocturne zinc
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You should watch the cutscenes, your truly missing out

ionic star
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Probably a troll. Real people aren't that dense

odd kayak
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i was thinking about the controversy around the AK in episode 1, and honestly considering theres mosin nagants and browning machine guns being used in ukraine its not all that unpausible. i mean UNSC uses 7.62x51 NATO rounds in lore, and if the UN is a world govt (as of 2075) youd think that would slow advancement in weapons tech and adoption since less hypothetical competition and demand in a "world of peace" outside of the insurrection

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the truck on the other hand i dont think gets the same accommodation

little anvil
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Not an uncommon take and probably the most reasonable.

opaque edge
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shooting an 500 year old gun at an alien

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gg

ionic star
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Of course, you don't see weapons from the 1850s, 1700s, etc. used in Ukraine, or anywhere else. At a certain point over those hundreds of years, colony planets would stop maintaining old weapons like an already 100-year-old AK-47 design in 2075, let alone in the 2500s. The truck certainly makes no sense. Just lazy set work.

native otter
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seeing something about an MCU writer, anyone got links for this?

heavy pilot
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There's not exactly a bad idea to keep using a design that works well, is it called an AK 47 or does it just look like one?

nocturne zinc
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@odd kayak Well It makes sense to me in some shape and form

tawdry kestrel
little quartz
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Let's all agree that the halo 3 live action trailer "halo landfall" was way better then the TV show put together.

toxic warren
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I don't agree with that

minor sequoia
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I'm very lenient when it comes to Halo, but the TV show took it a step too far in the wrong direction, and then ran a full marathon before teabagging me.

little quartz
agile zenith
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Of all the things S1 did, I feel like they did a great job on Halsey, Jacob and Miranda, not to mention.... giving a ton of people new Spartans to call their favorites , mostly Soren (a preexisting character technically) , Kai the Chaos Gremlin, Riz and Vannek.

verbal fox
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Soren is not a Spartan. Even he wouldn't consider himself one

verbal fox
zenith sphinx
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@prime bison what is your opinion on the halo show

ocean aurora
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Man, Susanna White (of Generation Kill/Andor) would be a perfect fit for Halo if it were to ever get a live action adaptation. Just imagine: an HBO series with her at the helm and a movie lead by Neill Blomkamp. The studio wouldn't know what to do with all the money and praise they'd get hah. Talk about a new golden age of Halo...

fallow lotus
ocean aurora
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I'm not sure what that series' script was before the decision was made to put Halo's name to it for marketing hype, but it was definitely not Halo. Thematically or narratively. We still have yet to see a full-fledged big budget live action adaptation of Halo's world. For some odd reason...

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I don't know why the studio is so allergic to the idea of Halo just being... Halo.

proven bramble
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ikr

grand dagger
nocturne zinc
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Well that's your opinion

fresh bone
queen pike
true lake
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just hoping for the flood

jaunty basin
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im just hoping for writing and characters that arent sickeningly unfaithful to the real stuff

jovial sun
jaunty basin
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But I'm hoping the rage from the community will knock some sense into them

jovial sun
median void
warm birch
drowsy stirrup
barren pawn
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This series is awful...I'm only 10 minutes into episode 2 and oh my god it's worse than I thought...who wrote this? A 10 year old?

tawdry kestrel
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9 actually but close enough

hard pecan
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and they're expecting us to be hyped for the second season

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don't even bother to watch it

toxic warren
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People enjoyed the 1st season and are more than welcome to enjoy the second. Let people like things :)

hasty palm
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Damn is it that bad I haven’t watched it yet

jaunty basin
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A big problem is that it set out to be a drama instead of an action show. And it thinks it's intellectual for doing so, even though the story is trash.

verbal fox
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Enough people rallied against New Coca Cola to force the Coca Cola Company to revert back to the original formula.
I say, let's do it to the Halo TV Series.

sleek garden
hasty palm
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Did he take off his helmet

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;-;

stone holly
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It’s all downhill from there

rigid hollow
hasty palm
stone holly
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Yes

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The moment chief takes off his helmet he stops being chief

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And instead becomes a guy who stole chief’s armor and pretends to be chief

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I’ll be fair though, the action scenes are pretty good

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They’re well choreographed

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Honestly they should have just adapted the story of combat evolved

formal void
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No the show isn't bad

jaunty basin
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yes it is

formal void
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There's just people who don't like it

jaunty basin
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The writing is objectively bad

formal void
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No it ain't

jaunty basin
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Well im glad you can enjoy it i guess

formal void
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I don't like Halo Reach, it's so badly written

jaunty basin
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interesting

stone holly
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But you’re wrong

formal void
stone holly
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Can they?

formal void
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Can't

verbal fox
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They can be socially unacceptable

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There are plenty of historical examples of opinions that are, indeed, wrong, and some just treated as wrong.

For example, the societal backlash against New Coke was so great, even people who liked it remained silent, as it was socially unacceptable to like it.

There are far more aggressive examples, however...
We are gathered here to create a social standard that the Halo Show sucks, not discuss societal discourse on opinions.

formal void
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There's a difference between not liking something and that something being bad
I don't like Halo Reach, and therefore it's a bad game
Is that how it works? Don't think so

verbal fox
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Nah, you claimed it was badly written, while conversely, you think the show is good, or at least not bad.
Yet, from a statistical standpoint, the TV Show is reviewed as having poor writing, even people with favorable views of the show have seen holes in it, while Halo Reach has received high praise from both fans and the Press across the board especially in regards to its story.

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For better or worse, modern "reviews" are typically propaganda pieces more than legitimate reviews, with corporations known to have bad reviews deleted or "bribe" media to rate it favorably (such as giving critics 'Exclusive Access' and other treats to play on Human Psychology).
Its wasn't a major issue till social media became highly popular and corporations were able to collect and analyze user data in mass, over the past decade or so.
If this Show released in 2011, let's say, it would have been eviscerated.
Nowadays, unless its absolutely hot garbage in every way, a show is a "success."

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However, I would say a better judge of success here is, how 'popular' is the show now, late 2022.
As a topic, it has faded rapidly from public attention, mostly forgotten besides those who still seek to rally against it and a few supporters who still defend it. It has not generated a large fan following, not among loyal Halo Fans nor the general public.
A week after the last episode hit, the conversation died, and the interactions with the media posts are rather low. Seems like a failure to me.

formal void
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I couldn't care less about reviews, given i'm not a sheep, but an individual person that thinks freely and has their own thoughts

stone holly
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Bruh this chat turned into a philosophical debate

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Anyways I’ll respect your opinion

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But if you don’t like reach we can’t be friends

verbal fox
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Well Halo is quite philosophical

fallow lotus
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So the series IMO is good in its own adaptation of the halo series while not being solely based on lore if that makes sense. I like how they’re experimenting with ideas that we get to see instead of implementing terrible ideas into a game. Do I wish it was more action based like the Halo reach trailer or the one trailer where they rescue MC? Yes but at the same time, I like the new story. Not saying the series is better than like GoT but i enjoy it. It’s a good watch, definitely would be a lot better, if they took notes from what Bungie did with their trailers

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Don’t hate me 😂

verbal fox
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Yes, if Halo video games had Chief conducting intimate (and immoral and illegal) activities with a Covenant sided Human traitor that is held prisoner, the fans would go berserk.
How does being an adaption make that acceptable?

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That is just the most potent change, and the worst, but that alone sinks the series, even if everything else was perfect it would be ripped.

limber roost
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umm i actually liked the halo show? let people like things ok?

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it's a freshing take on the halo look without touching it's already dog trash so called story that bungie puts out

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it's real and not that oh i am edgy thing reach has

carmine portal
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what is the general consensus here in regard of the series good or bad

neon plover
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That conversation derailed too much, keep it respectful and on-topic

stone marlin
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what

neon plover
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Just go back to talking about the show

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PLEASE.

carmine portal
carmine portal
stone marlin
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at least everyone who likes and dislikes the show can agree that master chief getting laid was a bad idea right

right?

fast basin
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Right

stone marlin
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L automod moment

stone marlin
carmine portal
fast basin
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What?

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His love is Cortana

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Did you not play any halo game?

carmine portal
fast basin
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The show is based off the game

carmine portal
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it doesnt needs to be a 1:1 adaptation you know

stone marlin
fast basin
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Dawg

stone marlin
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the show having a different story to the games is fine
what’s not fine is the show not feeling like halo besides like 2 scenes

carmine portal
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halo is a universe in movement

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not just only mc doing stuff

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there are more perspectives to see

stone marlin
carmine portal
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how so?

stone marlin
# carmine portal how so?
  1. Music is nothing like halo music
  2. story is divided between master chief having mid life crisis and some girl doing boring things with (admittedly cool) dude
    neither of these feel like they would belong in the games (Not saying the story has to be exactly like the games but this is a game series so staying true to the games would be a very good idea)
  3. This isn’t the master chief this is some guy who stole chief’s suit
carmine portal
stone marlin
verbal fox
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Chief is Human, but he isn't a darn lust filled child

chrome pike
verbal fox
chrome pike
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I see, i havent watched the show as i dont have access to it but thats a shame, why not just say as it is though? 🤷‍♂️

verbal fox
quasi storm
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Can we all agree to call the halo man in the show John? Because he does not feel like master chief.

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Like seriously, the man became literally went through an arc about him being similar to a machine in halo 4. And that is barely mentioned in the show, nor is it shown.

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In the show he feels like a garbage version of batman, but thats an insult to him.

fast basin
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Yes

quasi storm
jaunty basin
quasi storm
verbal fox
quasi storm
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Cuz thats what the show should be

quasi storm
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Ohhhh

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Roasted

charred zodiac
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mid

formal void
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Be perfectly honest guys
Will you watch season 2?

jaunty basin
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yes but i dont have to be happy about it

fair sinew
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is it a crime that I have only played halo infinites multiplayer?

toxic warren
oak prism
neon plover
nova escarp
grave patio
lyric dagger
toxic warren
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Definitely picking this up 😄

tawdry kestrel
tawdry kestrel
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if you are that young you should play through all the old halos first

vivid rivet
tawdry kestrel
vivid rivet
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Yeah your probably right

tawdry kestrel
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does anyone know how to get hallo on vr

vivid rivet
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I wouldn’t know sorry

toxic warren
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Let's keep on topic please, this channel is for discussing the TV show

lucid solar
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In my opinion what would have made the show 100 times better is if from the very beginning it did not have Spartans in it at all make all your main characters a team of ODSTs and then the drama that they had wouldn't have felt so out of place

jaunty basin
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it never should have been a drama show

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maybe if there was already a ton of official halo movies and shows a drama (not the one we got though) would be an interesting take, but as it is I just feel insulted as a fan

autumn girder
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TV show was really great!

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Does the disc version come with downloadable episodes too? would be nice for my pc.

quasi storm
quasi storm
orchid wadi
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So I can get master cheeks on hardcopy? 👍

orchid wadi
dawn cave
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I didn’t get passed the second episode

autumn girder
# quasi storm Theres a WHAT

You can pre-order copies of the show on disc, I wonder if it comes with downloadable episodes as well since my pc has no option to play froma disc.

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The show is quite different from the games as it doesn't focus on action as much as games. Overall I liked it but I have 3 complaints:
-Stop adding GOT like explicit nonsense in Halo, 2 people bonding over a similar past doesn't have to get that intimate
-Cut the amount of total time by giving the less interesting Madrigal story less screen time.
-Give a better sense of scale, in the show it mentions that there are many planets that are like what Chief describes to be his home but outside of that there is not much indicating how many planets are inhabited by humans. Also it is unclear if the Covenant are biiger or just as big as humanity

toxic warren
autumn girder
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Please tag me again then and let me know, I want to get this for the quality (but also to collect).

tawdry kestrel
timid gyro
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saw season 1 at my local Walmart the other day. maybe I'll get as a X-mas gift.

zenith root
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Natasha McElhone is 6 years older than Pablo Shreiber. Are we to believe that she was roughly 12 when she recruited John for the Spartan program? I know, I know, that's just Hollywood and I need to suspend disbelief, but come on they should not be this close in age!

toxic warren
native otter
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was the series on sale when it was first released? It doesn't look like it's on sale right now

ocean aurora
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The only thing that hurts more than Andor ending is the knowledge of how amazing a Halo show would be if it had that amount of heart and care for its source material's world poured into it. Yet, for some reason... we're just never going to see that.

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I usually give shows a fair shake in case they pick up steam later, but Halo was the first one in a long time where I just couldn't keep watching halfway through an episode and had to stop. Even without the Halo name attached it was all so... bland and low quality.

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It had no soul.

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I just can't get over how great Andor is and my dumb brain immediately thinks "this could have been Halo. We were this close." (If we were still in the days of Landfall instead of...Nightfall.)

jaunty basin
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That's corporate greed for ya

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I wonder if things would have been different if Bonnie Ross was gone before the show was made.

formal void
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And 343 has no say in whether or not the show is made, as they don't own Halo, Microsoft does, and if Microsoft says they want a Halo show, they shall make one

jaunty basin
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I thought she had some control? She at least could have said something like hey fellas this might reflect poorly on halo....

formal void
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Let me explain you something about TV show/moviemaking. When a videogame franchise gets adapted, the current creators of the game might check the script, and I must remind you, you can make anything sound good in a script, not to mention a Halo show was being planned since 2013, so obviously quite a lot of changes in the script might have been made along the way, changes which 343 were powerless to intervene in since they don't have creative control over the show, they just "approved" its production, which wasn't even necessary since Microsoft is the one who ultimately says yes or no.

ocean aurora
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Andor was a very human story without shoving down your throat how "human" its characters are. Halo leaned so hard in that direction it became a parody. No human is that melodramatic.

toxic warren
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343 were directly involved in the show's creation. Kiki spent like 2 years in Budapest during the pandemic

verbal fox
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Was is just Kiki, or were other members of 343 allowed to give input?

toxic warren
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More than just Kiki from 343

floral spindle
lament moth
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this series was really bad

feral path
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find it funny that landfall and we are odst were so much better than the show

formal void
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Maybe it's because producing a 5 minute trailer takes so much less

somber sorrel
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Picked up the steelbook, after a good solid rewatch on a proper tv (streamed on my phone during lunch breaks before) I have to say I dig this show more than I thought I did. Looking forward to S2.

autumn girder
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It is not perfect but still nice, doesn't deserve the hate it gets.

primal sundial
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||Bad impersonation of each of the characters.|| might be a bit harsh

little anvil
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I need to get the Blu-Ray honestly, is it out yet?

toxic warren
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Yep

little anvil
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Sweet
Christmas gift ahoy!

median void
median void
median void
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Imo.^

formal void
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You're welcome
I just don't like how the Halo TV show gets overly slandered
I realize it's not the best production, but exaggerating things only leads to negative results

median void
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It is just that halo fan's, they don't get a lot of action, if you know what i'm sayin', and there is a groundbreaking scene in the TV series that dilapidates this connection the fans have to the main character, Master chief.

formal void
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It is inevitable that they'll make direct comparisons to the games when they see them adapted into something else

median void
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Maybe if the story was changed a bit, but I don't see why that would be required in order to appease these snobby perfectionist fans that have never touched a person before intimately

median void
ocean aurora
valid cosmos
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We've had the Marlboro Man speaking as Master Chief for 2 decades and never know what John looks like... ten minutes into the first bunk episode, we get the Narf from Friends as 117. Instant turn off.

native otter
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I'm starting to think it might be worth it to wait until there's a proper price drop on this in like 6-8 months.

split kernel
# median void Maybe if the story was changed a bit, but I don't see why that would be required...

First of all, slandering an entire community based off of some people, maybe most of the community, hating on the TV show is a vary narrow minded view. Second, the show was pretty bad. Each episode had roughly ten million dollars, the same budget that Forard Unto Dawn had. That movie had the budget of one of the episodes, yet it was easily 10 times better. The halo tv shows’ portrayal of the Chief throws out anything from the books or games about his character. They could have shown the more emotional side of Chief in a much better manner, and Halo infinite did that beautifully, as well as some the books. I’m not asking for perfection, but a little bit of respect for the franchise is in order.

halcyon dagger
jaunty basin
median void
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It's just

median void
median void
# split kernel First of all, slandering an entire community based off of some people, maybe mos...

imo you cant state opinions as fact such as the show being pretty bad, perhaps if you included an opinion statement for indication that it's just your opinion, that's what I think personally. Also, there is no quantifiable way to really measure how much better Forward Unto Dawn is but 10 times better is a pretty high estimate in my opinion especially for a media intended only for marketing purposes of the Halo 4 video game (imo)

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However I agree with the other facts in your essay about how Halo Infinite did Master Chief beautiful and fourth anti-community slander imo

median void
split kernel
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I see that I misinterpreted your original post in the context of slandering the community. I understand it was meant towards a specific part of the community after re-reading it. The show being bad is purely objective. Whether you like it or not is subjective. Here's some reasons why it's bad: Master chief takes his helmet off. This is obviously a stupid idea, and it shows that the creators of the show are completely and utterly out of touch with the fanbase. I believe they even said they had never played any of the games before. Master chief also wouldn't be an emotional wreck because the Spartan's memories were never erased or messed with. Halsey was smart enough to know that it would cause future issues if they messed with the kid's heads. I know the show is non-canon, but that means that Halsey is not as highly intelligent as she's portrayed. This is more of a minor gripe, but the Spartan's movements and some of the CGI is super janky, enough so that it makes you wonder how on earth they spent 10 million on a 50 minute episode. Compared to Forward Unto Dawn's Master Chief, who moves like a real Spartan, it's laughable. There are no excuses for the show to be so out of line that it's rejected by the majority of the community. It's a disrespect to Halo

halcyon dagger
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@median void @split kernel
I get both Ur points and both are Valid

jaunty basin
formal void
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And also, no, this show isn't objectively bad, that is determined by the critic, which doesn't matter if you disagree with or not, they say this show is fine, and I'll listen to them before any biased fan. Halo fanboys say Halo 5 is garbage and an insult to the series and so on, while the critics say Halo 5 is an alright game, and what's that? The critics are right? Oh what a surprise

split kernel
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How’s a critics opinion any better than someone who’s been dedicated to the franchise for over 15 years? And yea, halo 5’s story did suck. The gameplay wasn’t awful but the story was. I’ve never heard anyone really even talk about forward unto dawn, but it’s really good. And I don’t think people will look back at the current halo show and say it’s good. The reason halo “fanboys” don’t like it is because they actually give a damn about the chief and the wonderful universe of Halo, while a critic most likely wouldn’t have the same knowledge or respect for the series

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Saying a critics opinion is objectively better isn’t an argument, it’s false

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You can like the show all you want, and maybe it’s a “good” show, but it’s not a good Halo show

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As someone who’s played all the games and read some thirty odd Halo books or so , I think I can make a decent judgement on a tv show about Halo.

native otter
split kernel
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Seriously? That’s gotta be a joke

native otter
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nope!

split kernel
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And that’s a popular opinion?

native otter
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at least, they are saying so in compared to Infinite's store/battlepass method

native otter
split kernel
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Oh, that makes more sense

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Both are bad. It’s like 4 dollars for some armor coating for one armor core. Overpriced and not very customizable

formal void
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Halo 5 will never be a bad game because of a bad story, the quality of games is determined by the gameplay

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And yes, the opinion of a critic is way more valid than a fan's, why? Because fans are biased

native otter
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sounds like a conversation I don't want to get further involved in.
Cheers!

split kernel
formal void
# split kernel How can story not matter at all? I agree the gameplay was fine, but story is equ...

And where exactly in my message does it say that the story doesn't matter? If you just create your own version of what other people say then you might lie about the Halo show and say inaccurate stuff to make it sound worse than what it actually is. Story does matter in a videogame, but it doesn't determine the quality. Doom 2016 and Eternal have terrible stories but they are good games, and TLOU2 has an infamously bad story, and even with that, it won the GOTY

split kernel
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You said a games quality is determined by its gameplay

split kernel
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And halo 5 had bad storytelling, and a meh story at best

formal void
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No, gameplay is the most important part of ANY game, and their quality IS determined by the GAMEplay. These are games, not movies

split kernel
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How about a game like Omori? It’s main selling point is storytelling, not complex and cool game mechanics. A game doesn’t need the most insane mechanics to be good

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How good a game is depends on both gameplay and story. Some games choose one over the other, and some try to balance it. All different ways can still be good, but it depends on the execution

formal void
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Do I have to repeat "gameplay is the most important part of ANY game"

split kernel
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That’s just wrong

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Gameplay is an aspect of a good game. But it’s not the only aspect

formal void
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It's the most important aspect, not the only aspect

split kernel
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And how on earth did you come to that conclusion?

formal void
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If you think of games as movies that's your problem, not mine. Normal people play them, and games that don't even have a story, such as Minecraft, are some of the most successful ones

split kernel
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Arguing with you isn't worth my time anymore. You clearly don't see games properly

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I also don't view games as movies

formal void
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And I find no point on arguing with someone who will say a game is bad merely because of a bad story. By that logic the entirety of Mortal Kombat 9 would be considered an utter failure rather than one of the best fighting games of all time

split kernel
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Maybe I didn't convey my point clearly. Games can be made with a goal in mind. Some are for gameplay, some are story intensive, some are both, and they can all work really well. The problem Halo 5 had was that Halo is a very story driven game, so even if the gameplay was good, the story was lacking enough that the game didn't fulfill it's purpose.

tawdry kestrel
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hola que onda

shell crypt
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I view games as an art form. Halo's art is in the scenery, the music, and the story. The game play matched with a perfect story makes the game good. They both are very important and need to be done right. Take Halo Reach for example... Bungie's exit from the Halo franchise was meant for those that loven both. The story, music, and game play balance each other out. The best part is being able to bond with others over these topics. My brother is more of a game play focused person, and I can't get enough of Halo's lore and story. We both agree that Reach is our favorite. We'd spend hours just replaying the campaign or playing firefight. We never got bored of it. I personally didn't care for Halo 5's story, but my brother was all over the new mechanics. We all have our likes and dislikes, I think the best part of Halo 5 for me was on Sanghelios. But that was primarily because the Arbiter was back. I also liked Buck because I liked ODST and it was good to see him again. Those were the only parts that interested me. Yeah the new mechanics were cool, but without a proper story it doesn't feel like Halo. It just feels like your run of the mill FPS game.

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^This is in regards to the argument yesterday. I just don't want to ping the two people that were arguing.

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Another thing that I forgot to point out. I can't really remember any of the music from Halo 5. It never stuck with me like other halo themes.

split kernel
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You said it better than I did

tawdry kestrel
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Master cheeks is a war criminal

jaunty basin
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By our rules, yes

median void
median void
tawdry kestrel
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The mandalorian is the best halo show change my mind

fast dew
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Clone Wars @tawdry kestrel

fast dew
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Finally, someone says something

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Agreed

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Bro, my friend just told me rebels was better

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And tried to say jk jk

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I hate this place

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Same

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Ong

elder garden
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You referring that to Star Wars one ?

elfin peak
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Did you finish it?

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Cause it starts that way

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But then it gets good

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Dave filoni knows what he’s doing. Then again don’t listen to me because I genuinely kinda hate star wars cause the fandom is just crap filled meat sacks

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I’m not speaking sarcastically my Star Wars opinions legitimately don’t matter

formal void
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Say positive stuff about this show challenge, go

hexed galleon
jaunty basin
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The fight scenes are cool mostly

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The Covenant are brutal

atomic compass
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When John is actually in his armor and fighting the fight scenes are good, and the female spartan who also takes out her emotion suppressor chip is a well done character (mostly because she's new and not a butchering of an existing character)

rare flare
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Covenant was so on point. They basically slaughter the UNSC throughout the entire war.

formal orchid
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The overall writing was unfortunate. Cortana was really poorly executed I think. Super far off from the games.

atomic compass
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Most things were

elder granite
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Should i buy the blu-ray? (i watched the series back when it was airing and gave it a 5/10)

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albeit i really did like how Cortana and Halsey were done (monologue at the end of episode 9)

dense trail
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SourCandyCM#6967

elder granite
atomic compass
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If you'd give it a failing grade why would you give it money?

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It was in production for like a decade and it was pretty dang bad

elder granite
cobalt harness
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amazing show

distant pagoda
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Imo, both the 2d and 3d animated serieses of clone ward are better than the things disney has been pumping out ever since they got the license

marble mulch
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theres a 2d?

marble mulch
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was it good

daring wraith
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Andor is the best piece of Star Wars content since Ep V

elder granite
daring wraith
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I see what you did there xD

elder granite
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i had to

unique flicker
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Y

elder granite
unique flicker
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Bad

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Horrible

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I had to live on a supply of totinos pizza rolls

candid swallow
candid swallow
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ah

atomic compass
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I saw a few of those when they were first airing years ago and they were in the ~4 minute segments during lengthened commercial breaks in the middle of other shows

tawdry kestrel
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Yo why isn't cortana cortana in the new show

candid swallow
tawdry kestrel
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Exactly, they changed her

honest ferry
honest ferry
hushed fulcrum
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Goated series

elder granite
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Got the Blu-ray for the special features
Also comes with 1 month of gamepass ultimate

slate isle
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Yo NGL the master chief design for the halo series was sick in my personal opinion

formal void
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Well yeah, this TV show suffers something similar to Halo Infinite

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People focus so much on the bad stuff to the point they believe these products are only bad, and they forget the positive things in them

dapper rock
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master chief cheeks was the best scene

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also the problem wth halo infinite is not tht its "bad"
its tht its not updated

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major updates
tht consist of things tht should hav been in the game on release

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but the games been put on the side burner for so long
tht any major update will most likely go unoticed due to people
just forgetting about it and moving on

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which is a shame
coz infinite really has some of the best fps shooter gameplay and feel

glossy dawn
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hehe. Master Cheeks.

grave violet
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Can't wait for the season 2.

tawdry kestrel
elder granite
tawdry kestrel
cloud birch
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how could it be illegal

formal void
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It actually is, yes
Reselling copyrighted material is illegal, nobody cares about that, but illegal it is

gritty crown
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Wait, so if I have an old game that I sell in a garage sale, that's technically illegal?

formal void
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Technically, yes, it's illegal
No one will arrest you, but yeah

cloud birch
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that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard

gritty crown
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That's crazy
I never knew that

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When I was a kid, I thought of a DVD or a game as any other physical product, like a toy, or a t shirt

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So now, is selling it back to GameStop legal since they're a licensed vendor?

devout forge
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It'd parts of the first sale doctrine the original creator get money for original sale but u can resale no problem after that as long as u don't claim it contents is urs still could see it but could get in trouble same for books, DVD, etc the list goes on

deep bough
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When will Halo the series not suck? I think it was the worst Sci Fi show I've seen in a long time. Not even lying or trolling here. How the F did they mess it up?? It just had to start with a single space ship, an AI and a cyborg finding a ring planet

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That's all it needed and they'd have won awards for storytelling

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Some1 put me in charge with Paramount and 343. I will fix the Halo TV Series.

Season 2 Starts with a young couple leaving a movie theater on planet reach, Halo Season 1 was all ONI propaganda meant to sway people away from conspiracies and whispers about the Spartan Program. New Alexandria is beautiful and whatnot, there's a wall of text and some dramatic music explaining the human covenant war. The same shot comes back in and the city is glassed, followed by a text wall yadda yadda war is going badly, blah blah blah one lone ship escaped. Followed by Pillar of Autumn entering the frame.

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@343 Release the Goose cut

formal void
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The Halo show doesn't care about the original lore, but it would be disingenuous to pretend that even so the show isn't enjoyable, because it is. For some mindless action it's fine. Meanwhile, the newest Star Trek is not even enjoyable for the action

deep bough
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Discovery is Terrible and garbage it's nonsense

deep bough
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I'll do all my directing via discord chat

formal void
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I honestly don't know what people were expecting from the Halo show, a retelling of the games? I can't get behind that, if I want to see the story of the games again, I'll play the games. I support an original story, the end result wasn't great, but there's room for improvement

deep bough
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Then what they can do is introduce a Chips Dubbo spinoff series

formal void
deep bough
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It's literally not

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Fall of Reach could have been awesome

formal void
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Here is the meaning of adaptation as found in the dictionary: Adaptation is the act of changing something or changing your behaviour to make it suitable for a new purpose or situation.

deep bough
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Yea but their adaptation sucks

formal void
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But, it is an adaptation

deep bough
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Yea but it doesn't have Chips Dubbo

formal void
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Why him, there are 2 better marines than I can think of

deep bough
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No no has to be Chips

formal void
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Sergeant Johnson or Marcus P. Stacker, I'll take any of those over Chips

marsh mist
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heresy

brave mesa
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Un faithful to the Original IP.

little anvil
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Could be worse. You seen the stuff from the new Scooby Doo rehash?

mystic thunder
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So many complaints. I'm rewatching it a second time and it's still enjoyable. Thanks 343.

tropic lark
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Do you guys think the show can still be saved when season 2 comes out?

formal void
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343 industries is a game developer and this is a TV show, remember

mystic thunder
urban oracle
sinful agate
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I do in fact have faith in the last of us show it looks dope

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But other then that In general most adaptations are horrible or the people behind it never listen to fans

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If they listened to fans the show would be 100% better

hard pecan
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I doubt they took any feedback from the community to literally rebuild their entire show

formal void
sinful agate
formal void
sinful agate
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Other then second mk movie the others were good

formal void
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Other than the second one
Now we're talking

median void
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last of us show is like what i was expecting of halo

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i feel goofy because that's what everyone is saying but man I really think so

median void
little anvil
formal void
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