lore-and-universe

[final hound]

Hopefully

Ive heard its the only halo for abt 10 years to come though

Which would be a mistake

[topaz sierra]

the story didn't end properly, there is waay much scope for the saga

[stable brook]

I heard there will expansion for story

[final hound]

Theres gotta be DLC, theres an entire area of the map thats inaccessible

[stable brook]

I wouldn't mind if I had to buy it.

[topaz sierra]

Microsoft, a monee company have brains not to do that mistake

[final hound]

Same

[topaz sierra]

nicee

[final hound]

Exactly

[topaz sierra]

like

maybe 5 years

[stable brook]

I hope we explore a little bit of MasterChef time scape.

[topaz sierra]

but 10 years.... the are going to lose a fanbase

[topaz sierra]

I want is face reveal

doom dude already got a voice reveal

its time for the chief

[stable brook]

It would make sense to have his helmet remove when deleting Cortana.

[final hound]

Apparently their statement was that they want Halo Infinite to "last 10 years"

And evolve

Constant updates and content

Still sounds like they mean it would be the only halo for 10 years

[stable brook]

Imgine he removes his helmet and another helmet appears

[final hound]

Though i doubt they would do that necessarily, if people start moving away

[topaz sierra]

maybe what they cold do is get the money from microtransactions and build the current infinite game?

[final hound]

True

[topaz sierra]

if not

I want some outer storyline of halo in every season of multi like Fortnite

but killing off halo will be a shame on microsoft

halo is the face of xbox

they made an AI called cortana also

and sometimes, there could be spinoffs

[dense pulsar]

Master Chief removes his helmet to reveal he was Noble 6 this entire time; the camera cuts to Master Chief waking up from Cyrosleep on FuD

[stable brook]

Holy shot.!

What a twist

Night shalyamanan didn't even see that coming.

[fiery moss]

What happened to all the guardians under cortanas control ? and what happened to captain Laskey did he get back to earth somehow ?

[steep drum]

Brohammer is the best character

[steep drum]

||destroyed by the Banished apparently. They were just that powerful.||

[fiery moss]

Damnnn foo. I hate how reckless the whole universe is tho. Something so sacred just to be destroyed by outcasts of a religion based army.

[steep drum]

Yeah

Eh. At least they aren’t following evil Cortana anymore.

That’s the third villain they’ve thrown out so far besides Jul and Didact.

This time i’m glad she’s gone lmao

[fiery moss]

I just get hella depressed thinking abt it all lmao

I feel like they have expanded the story to the point that it’s gonna b hard to keep writing and have a good public response

[steep drum]

Same lol

They dug themselves into a little pit.

I hope they do more with Atriox.

As in, don’t kill him off

Atriox would make a great recurring villain

[fiery moss]

Idk lol. I’ve always loved the brutes as an enemy but something just makes me wish we could have more games like 2 and 3. Might just be my love for the elites after that legends animation abt the past arbiter. I just feel like the game is still good but the lore and story are slowly dying

I mean 2 and cv*

[steep drum]

Monke good

Halo 2 as an open world game would’ve been fun

Someone should do that once modding REALLY kicks off-

[fiery moss]

Ong all of em tho

Like an open work reach would b godly

World*

[nimble laurel]

@fiery moss you know that's one thing that should be put back into multiplayer playable elites

[steep drum]

Open world on Delta Halo would’ve been awesome.

Imagine walking into random Flood encounters in the Quarantine Zone

[fiery moss]

Yeah infinite multiple is good but I feel like they tried to spin off into current culture like the battle pass and more cod style in my opinion.

[fiery moss]

Fr tho we’re destined to have sum like that ina future

[steep drum]

Y e s

[nimble laurel]

@fiery moss from the video I just saw skins for killcams on that game now

[fiery moss]

Exactly

Like I just don’t feel like I’m playing halo in the multiplayer no more

It’s fun but not the same

[nimble laurel]

Wonder if there's any flood samples still on zeta halo

[versed helm]

are the servers still down?

[unkempt dome]

yes

u havent seen the cylix???

[scarlet quiver]

Same here. Fun, but im done. I am just a cooperative guy. So warzone would be great. I guess i mellowed with my age and lost my competitive spirit.

[wheat barn]

Master chief is John from halo changed my mind

[somber tiger]

I don’t think the evidence lines up

[shut steppe]

lol Master Chief in the Memory Agent podcast is speaking more in one episode than in the whole Halo Infinite game

[static ginkgo]

Always wondered, do we have any proper strength calcs for the Master Chief and Spartans in general?

Like how much can they deadlift, curl, bench press, etc?

While in armour that is.

(no, gameplay mechanics such as flipping tanks don't count)

[clear beacon]

I don't think we have exact measurements.

but a tank is 66 tons

[static ginkgo]

What about calculations based off showings in the books and games?

[clear beacon]

without armor, according to the wiki, they can lift 3 times their body weight.

[static ginkgo]

Well yeah I know that

[clear beacon]

there aren't any exact measurements I don't believe.

[static ginkgo]

Any smart peeps here done any calculations of their own? 👀

[final hound]

High end wanks are insane

Also do you accept flipping elephants

I dont personally, i think its a fun game mechanic added as a joke

Scorpions can be legit though

[static ginkgo]

Nah flipping tanks and elephants are gameplay mechanics, I'm talking more about actual lore showings.

[clear beacon]

He can flip tanks

in lore

[final hound]

Nah tanks adds up

Yea

[clear beacon]

😐

[final hound]

The elephant is more a joke tbh

Imo

[static ginkgo]

Are we sure he can flip tanks? I mean that thing weighs 66 tons.

[clear beacon]

Yeah

[static ginkgo]

Shouldn't he be punching Elites into the sky if he was that strong

[clear beacon]

He's not lifting it

he's flipping it

so probably not the full 66 tons

[final hound]

What

My message disappeared lol

[clear beacon]

i saw that

[static ginkgo]

Hahahaha probably cos of language

[final hound]

What

Anyways

[clear beacon]

I think you're under-estimating what spartans can do.

[final hound]

Elite calcs are insane

[clear beacon]

Chief has fallen from space and survived because of his armor

[final hound]

Thanks to the elite holding Emile with an outstretched hand

[clear beacon]

so I don't think it's unreasonable to believe he can flip a tank

[final hound]

In halo reach

[static ginkgo]

Chief never fell from space iirc, only two kilometers

[final hound]

Its actually physically unreasonable

Because the elite shouldve fallen over

Not even because of lack of strength

But the physics just dont work considering how heavy emile is

But it happened, and some elites have the strength to curl an entire spartan

😈

[static ginkgo]

half a ton right?

[final hound]

Yep

[static ginkgo]

I think that Elite was performing a movement more impressive than curling too

Like the way he slid Emile off the energy sword, it was more of a sideways movement

[final hound]

Yeah honestly

[clear beacon]

he fell from space in halo 4

and survived

[final hound]

Brutes can throw those giant forge crates it halo 3 when enraged

[static ginkgo]

You know, if the Elites in Infinite were like those in Reach, then 343 would have needed to make Brutes even more monstrous to make them look convincingly bigger and stronger hahaha

[final hound]

Jump like 50 feet in the air

Well maybe 30-40 idk

[static ginkgo]

Darn, and I've been seeing that Chief is a 5-tonner max around on the internet

[final hound]

A spartan could honestly swing a warthog around like a baseball bat

[static ginkgo]

There was this dude on HaloWaypoint that calced ~15 tons bench press for Chief though

[final hound]

Yeah the high end calcs are just weird

It makes the halo legends feats look normal

Also the spartan in that one episode shouldve never been able to catch an overhand swing from a chieftans gravity hammer

🗿

[clear beacon]

Legends is iffy with its canon

teehee

[final hound]

I think only one episode was deemed non canon

The rest were canon

I forget which one

[clear beacon]

Spartan 1337

[final hound]

Ah

[clear beacon]

Origins 2 cant be canon

[final hound]

Good

[clear beacon]

it got information wrong

[static ginkgo]

Honestly, I've always had an issue when it came to Halo's depiction of Spartans in visual media. This includes games, shows, etc.

[final hound]

Tbf it info is wrong that means its reconciled by material precedence

For instance

[static ginkgo]

With the way Spartans are described to move around in Halo: The Fall of Reach, all visual depictions we've seen have been quite disappointing.

[final hound]

Fall of reach isnt automatically non canon

But certain events are non canon

[clear beacon]

I see what you mean

[final hound]

Ghosts and warthogs shouldnt splatter brutes

[clear beacon]

It would be cool af to see chief running at top speed in one of the games

[final hound]

Even elites unless the speed is maxed

[clear beacon]

what was it 40-50 km/h?

60 if he really pushes

[static ginkgo]

Even in Halo Infinite for example. It was cool to see Chief throw actual, proper punches in his fight against Atriox, but he still moves and reacts quite slow in that fight (and in his brief fight against the Harbinger) compared to how his speed and reaction time are described in the books.

[final hound]

The impact should honestly damage warthogs

[final hound]

When it comes to the harbinger it might be more understandable

Its supposed to be some weird pre ecumene creature

Nobody knows

When it comes to atriox, yeah i guess

Brutes are supposed to be insanely fast too

[static ginkgo]

I mean, I'm fine with Atriox beating Chief in a fight but I would prefer the visual depiction to be more impressive.

[final hound]

Theyre like 4000 lbs of muscle fibers from a planet with more gravity

They should be running like Virginia from John Carter of Mars

[static ginkgo]

I would imagine you could construct a horror movie around a group of humans trying to survive one Brute lol

[final hound]

Bro itd be terrifying

Theyre like 9 feet tall

[static ginkgo]

I mean, those things consume flesh, have multi-ton strength, are extremely fast and worst of all, they're just as sentient as humans are.

And yes, not to mention their size.

[final hound]

Agree

[static ginkgo]

Imagine the balls Johnson had to actually willingly punch one in the abdomen in Halo 3

[final hound]

Id rather fight a wampa with my bare hands

Then again we really dont stand a chance against either

[static ginkgo]

You know, if it ever came down to it, I think I'd rather fist fight a Jackal than a Grunt.

[final hound]

Maybe i'll take the brute because the hit is a guaranteed insta kill

[final hound]

Same

Its the only covenant species we stand a chance against

[static ginkgo]

Jackals seem vicious but also a bit flimsy. Quite skinny.

[final hound]

They have hollow bones

[static ginkgo]

Yeah and that

[final hound]

Like birds

[clear beacon]

they're very similar to avians yee

[final hound]

Id be more wary of their beaks

[static ginkgo]

Grunts may be shorter than us but their stockiness and chitinous skin may give them an edge in strength and durability

[final hound]

Do they have talons?

[clear beacon]

they have teeth

[final hound]

Cause that would be like a human trying to fight a larger cassowary

Those things can kill humans as it is

[final hound]

Hm

[static ginkgo]

Their fingers do edge in sharp tips but I'm not sure if that constitute talons

[clear beacon]

claws

I guess

[static ginkgo]

I think Skirmishers may be more difficult to go up against

[clear beacon]

Are they physiologically different from jackals?

I thought they were both the same kig-yar

[final hound]

If the speed is any showing

Definitely more muscle

[static ginkgo]

they deffo seem a bit more tanky

[final hound]

Ive always wanted a halo about normal marines

[stark fractal]

ODST is probably the closest your going to get

[final hound]

Unfortunately yeah

The mechanics basically just felt like you were playing a slightly less jumpy and damagy spartan

[stark fractal]

If we played as a normal marine I think the only change would be like always having no shields and bad melee

[final hound]

Well

I think recoil would dramatically increase

Running speeds

[versed helm]

Everything

[final hound]

Simply overcharging a plasma pistol would be a difficult task

Shooting any covenant weapon larger than a carbine wouldnt be feasible

Necessarily; accurately

[loud fjord]

jackals range from 6'3 to 6'9 they're huge.

at least compared to the average human size.

[static ginkgo]

nvm then lmao

[loud fjord]

there was a marine killed by one in hand to hand during halo 4 (well you can stop it from occuring)

it pounces on him

[gilded mason]

A jackal also used its shield to fling a 350 lb object away from them with barely any effort.

[final hound]

Wtf

I didnt know they got up to 6'9

I thought they were like 5'6 to 6'5

[loud fjord]

That's from the pov of a seven foot tall man

[final hound]

It checks out though, they get up to 6'9

Ofc

Grunts are also large

[loud fjord]

That and jackals crouch a lot

[final hound]

Im aware of pretty much all covie heights, but i always forget about jackals

True

[loud fjord]

Jackals can dunj

Dunk

[final hound]

💀

[final cairn]

Just finished the campaign a few hours ago but something is bugging me, anyone knows how did the chief survived for 6 months in space without food, water or being in cryogenic sleep?

[loud fjord]

Survival mode feature in his armor, Fernando mentions it in the beginning.

[cyan path]

This seems to be a popular topic. Theory is that his new suit has an updated survival mode which could possibly cryo him without the negative effects of freezer burn

[loud fjord]

Chief ignores freezer burn anyways

[final cairn]

Oh, totally missed that, thanks guys!

Heck of an updated armor then

[versed helm]

Is Fortnite canon

[keen snow]

In the Halo universe...? Going to say... no...

[versed helm]

does master chiefs

suit

j

je

je

jer

ykw

im not gonna finish that

[final hound]

Lol

[errant tendon]

Do Mjolnir Helmets have microphones and auto translator?

[lapis junco]

When Arbiter says ‘We’re it so easy’ at the end of Halo 3 do you guys think he’s implying that he thinks chief isn’t dead or what?

ope sorry didn’t mean to interrupt

[dense pulsar]

No. Chief goes to kill him and responds with "if it were do easy" because if it were, he'd be dead by now

[errant tendon]

Because, if we see Halo Reach every spartans sounds muffled, and Chief's voices is clear as a blue sky

[lapis junco]

no. the end of halo 3. he says it in two contexts once at the beginning and once at the end

when they think chief is dead

[lapis junco]

If mjolnir helmets have it i’d assume other spartan helmets do too. could just be lower quality or something

[final cairn]

He implies that chief isn’t someone easy to kill, so he was very much alive but lost

[lapis junco]

yeah. because like the commander says that chief is dead and arbiter responds with ‘were it so easy’ which i take as ‘he ain’t actually dead because if it was that easy none of this would have happened’ which if i remember correctly is the same way he meant it at the beginning of the game

[valid hemlock]

No, it was a meme

[stable brook]

Does masterceif likee sandwhiches?

[silk adder]

Yes

[errant tendon]

do master chief ever feel scared?

[gilded mason]

Yes

[final hound]

I didnt even know he could feel scared

[gilded mason]

He's not an automaton, after all.

[grim echo]

somtimes you can't just tell

[tidal imp]

There was a funny moment in Shadow of Reach where a hotshot pilot scared him by flying a pelican in an extreme fashion

Which also ended up saving Blue Team from an unexpected mass aerial ambush

[stable brook]

Does master chief pay child support?

[swift seal]

to who

[stable brook]

Think about it. The grunts. He murder slot of grunt through out halo and grunts have wife and kids don't they?

[swift seal]

i mean

the grunts are kids basically

[stable brook]

One thing that hurts me when playing Halo infinite is grunts screaming when you meele or kill them. I think about there past and what happened to them... I feel bad. But there funny too. So yeah. I love grunts.

What if the arbitrary found himself a wife and have kids?.

Have any other Spartan started family yet?

What happened to MasterChef team in halo 5 were they team blue or red?

[grim echo]

master chief is originally in blue team

[stable brook]

Ostral and serpremem cheese i need answers. Ur my only hope u guys are the lore and universe i know

[swift seal]

you could just google it

[stable brook]

Yeah ur right.

[gilded mason]

He has children, yes. And at least two SIIs had children or desired children.

[stable brook]

Wow

[versed helm]

yo so can anyone gimme a basic rundown of the different levels of flood outbreak/forms

[visual kraken]

Did you just answer your own question? Imao

[valid hemlock]

Halopedia.org exists, y'know?

[visual kraken]

Feral stage (Halo Ce and halo wars 2)
•no gravemind or just proto-gravemind
•flood does not fight with strategy
•generally Only combat forms, carriers, and infections forms
•goal is to collect as much biomass as possible to further stages and create a gravemind

Coordinated Stage (halo 2 and 3)
•gravemind is formed
•fights with strategy
•pure flood forms can be created
•goal is to continue to grow, adapt and learn.

@versed helm

[versed helm]

bet

[unique oyster]

Halo 3 then Halo odst or the other way around

[dense pulsar]

If Master Chief has children, let's be real here, they're entire life would just lead up to being Spartans

[gilded mason]

Why?

[dense pulsar]

Either because A.) ONI still wants that sweet sweet Master Chief/Spartan II DNA or B.) They feel an obligation to live up to the legend and legacy that is their dad the same way normal people sometimes feel obligated to join the military the way their dad and grandad etc did

[vernal notch]

Man, we need a Halo where we play as marines and go through the different battles of the human-covenant war

[dense pulsar]

I honestly think the next generation of Spartans won't even use real people though. I think it'll be a matter of using neurolinks, telecommunications, and a really good robot body

[vernal notch]

Like ODST, but actual marines, and rather than be alone, have 4 to 5 npc buddies

[dense pulsar]

See, this would be cool but what I envision is a Rising Storm 2 or ARMA type game

[visual kraken]

1st is correct

[vernal notch]

Maybe just a vr experience where you get to explore the Infinity

[dense pulsar]

The multi-player part of it would be like, almost everyone starts as a marine or a grunt and then Spartans and Elites deploy on the map which you play as

But they'd be limited

[vernal notch]

Mehhh

Sounds too much like call of duty, unfortunately

Or titanfall

[dense pulsar]

It wouldn't be as arcadey

Alot more tactical and reserved

Your health would be low and one good shot could take you out

Then the Spartans come and you get that

"Oh my God! A spartan! We're saved!" Moment

[vernal notch]

Maybe like enlisted?

Players have an ai squad with them, and can each call on reinforcements

And maybe it'd be insurrectionists vs unsc, idk

[faint ore]

Hey can someone list me comic since Halo 5 Halo wars 2 Halo Infinite? Thanks!

I really want a list of timeline since 5 to infinite

[urban walrus]

Well if your talking chronologically then odst then halo 3

[tidal imp]

After Cortana’s AI coup? The UNSC is going to be extra paranoid about equipment, particularly Spartans, that could be remotely run without direct human control

[tidal imp]

Also the current head of ONI, Serin Osman, is a Spartan-II child recruit who suffered side effects of failed augmentation and absolutely HATED the Spartan-II program’s forced recruitment of child soldiers.

So any sort of ‘Born to be Spartan’ program is not getting approved by her at the very least.

The Spartan-IV program by contrast doesn’t have the baggage of ‘we crossed massive ethical lines in getting recruits’

…anymore anyway

[heavy wasp]

Is there a website with all the halo lore in one spot

[onyx wadi]

You could start here perhaps, it's a decent and quick summary.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-story-so-far/1100-6498748/

Or here's a video as well, it's a long one though and still doesn't cover everything there is to know such as the early history of the Precursors / Forerunner etc.

https://youtu.be/8Mj_dkfhAhQ

[dense pulsar]

It wouldn't necessarily be a "your dad was a Spartan so you have to be too" type deal since becoming a Spartan is consensual now. It would be more of family-business type deal and being able to augment and train someone right out of highschool is alot faster than having to give someone basic training, then send them to special forces training were they might washout, then get them actual combat experience then augment them

[tidal imp]

If they washout, then they weren’t meant to even be in the program

Nepotism isn’t suited for passing someone who wouldn’t be able to aid their team properly

Also, fitting the whole ‘no way current ONI would approve’

Serin Osman probably wouldn’t look too fondly on ‘family connection’ Spartan program

And if it’s not clandestine, then it goes to Spartan Musa, who also probably isn’t keen

[dense pulsar]

Thats what I'm saying. There's alot of variables to getting someone to the point of even being considered for being a Spartan IV. If the Spartan 2.5's work like the 1.5's, then you already have a candidate a good chunk of the way there. The only thing they'd have to do is get them to sign the dotted line to go to UNSC bootcamp

[tidal imp]

And they could still washout

Also the variable for Spartan-IV is a lot more relaxed because of improvements to the augmentation candidacy and safety record of said augmentation

So the Spartan-IV program already gets to be picky

Now if a theoretical ‘2.1’ happens to demonstrate extraordinary ability, then no problem, they’d probably get the program if they were offered and wanted it.

But why should the UNSC gamble on expensive augmentation and equipment before actually seeing if the will and capability are present?

[warped thunder]

Potential spoiler for Halo infinite so I don't know if this is the right channel but I will mark it as spoiler

||so all the way back in the last book of the forerunner trilogy Halo silentium right as the array is being fired I think it's either the librarian or 343 guilty spark they mention a civilization reaching out just before being silenced by the rings and I got to thinking that was probably the endless.||

[frosty swan]

@warped thunder #485883236430512168

[gilded mason]

He doesn't need to go in there. The spoiler ban was lifted a few days ago

Anyway, I feel that ||It would be much too coincidental and kinda be something that just makes the galaxy feel smaller||

[versed helm]

That’s why the GEN 2 MJOLNIR was created, so that the IV’s, after augmentation, could be somewhat on par with the II’s, hell even the III’s.

[pallid raft]

Can someone list the comic where it explains how Jun survived in halo reach? Could be fanfic but I want it

[versed helm]

He escorted Dr Halsey off of Reach

[low whale]

Can't believe it was a dune prequel this whole time

[ebon rain]

Bruh || how are there no flood in infinite||

[wary osprey]

I know it’s just a game mechanic, but how would you implement respawning into Halo lore?

(Campaign and multiplayer)

[pulsar grail]

MP - simulator war games
Campaign - alternate timeline where player dies or lives

[ancient cloak]

it would defeat the point i think

[versed helm]

Technically there is… it’s one of the… Xylax, I believe?

[misty maple]

||Is the family we see in the hologram in halo infinite actually the pilots family?
Because he stole the pelican and he said he had no one left for him||

(Halo infinite spoilers)

[versed helm]

|| I believe they truly are his family, and that they possibly died. Let’s not forget that when Cortana created the “Created” hundreds, if not thousands of AI defected to her. Stands to reason civilians got caught in the cross fire. Or they died beforehand, or maybe even on the infinty||

[misty maple]

||that could be why he is so scared of the weapon in the early game aswell||

[versed helm]

||Exactly. She’s a carbon copy of Cortana, so how would you react?||

And it’s not been too long since the end of the Human-Covenant war

[unique rune]

There is no media that explains how Jun survived the Fall of Reach. You might be thinking of the Fistful of Arrows fan comic, but even that doesn’t do anything to elaborate on how he made it off the planet.

[lapis junco]

are you talking about when they came out or when they take place? because odst takes place during halo 2 and a little bit after i believe. halo 3 is after

[lapis junco]

I thought he leaves in the Pillar of Autumn with Halsey. or maybe a different ship i don’t remember

wasn’t that basically in the game?

[unique rune]

No. It’s never shown.

A266 is given orders to escort Halsey to Castle Base but everything after that is unknown.

[hoary patio]

Are there any halo lore novels, kinda like how Warhammer has books?

[onyx wadi]

There are a ton of them, over 30 something books plus a bunch of comics.

[hoary patio]

Thank god

I was dad that fallout didn't have any

Can you tell me which ones they are?

[final hound]

I was disappointed with that too

[onyx wadi]

https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_novels

I own and have read basically all of them in the order they were published, but if wanting to start really from the beginning go with the Forerunner triology of Cryptum, Primordium and Silentium. I know I answered this for somebody somewhere once but I had them all listed in chronological order too, I'll get back to you if I find that. @hoary patio

[hoary patio]

Ok so for the very very beginning it's those 3 forerunner books

[unique rune]

By chronological order, yeah, but they’d probably be better experienced going by publication/release order.

[onyx wadi]

https://www.beyondvideogaming.com/en/article/all-halo-books-in-order/

This is another list with them in order of publication.

I couldn't seem to find my answer with them all in chronological order however so I'll leave this even though it's not as neat of an answer as mine was. So you can start either with the history of the Forerunners / Precursors etc in the 3 books I named above or jump right into the Human / Covenant war era of events with Halo Contact Harvest, Cole Protocol, Battleborn / Battleborn Meridian divide or skipping to Fall of Reach, Silent Storm, Oblivion, The Flood and so on.

https://www.beyondvideogaming.com/en/timelines/halo-timeline-everything-in-chronological-order/ @hoary patio

[hoary patio]

I see

[mental yarrow]

Did you guys see the trailer

For the TV

https://youtu.be/wONazm_2C3I

IRL Sapce J.A.G.

I’m in

[boreal gate]

Does anyone have an answer for what exactly happened to Chief when he did the evolution thing in 4? I might have missed it in game but did it ultimately matter after the Didact?

[unique rune]

I don't think anything's really come of it since.

No mention of it in 5 or Infinite thus far.
Don't think any of the auxiliary media has ever touched on it either.

[onyx wadi]

The Librarian made John immune to the effects of the Composer is the obvious part but beyond that its not entirely clear I think what else was done if any at this point.

[mental yarrow]

That’s all it did

But A crucial turning point don’t you think

And who knows might come in handy again

[boreal gate]

Cool. My wife's been watching all the cutscenes from CE up since beating Infinite and she asked and I couldn't remember it being mentioned again.

[mental yarrow]

The cut scenes to four and five there’s more

But yeah the voices

Echos

That’s all there except cortina’s

[rotund lintel]

Is Gen 3 Mjolnir a downgrade from Gen 2. Because it kinda seems like it. At least from a multiplayer perspective.

[mental yarrow]

And Cortana mainly speaks on what happened right before chief woke up

That six months

I keep saying I can see a dead guardian on the shattered part of a ring

[onyx wadi]

Guess we will need to wait and see on an answer for that exactly

[unique rune]

It's supposed to be an upgrade. Gameplay mechanics aren't necessarily representative of actual canon stats and abilities.

[mental yarrow]

You can clearly see all the wings

[onyx wadi]

I think you may be right , I noticed that too far off in the distance

[mental yarrow]

Sticking out of a chunk

Yes

100%

It almost looks like it was slams through the ring

[unique rune]

Yeah, there's a crashed Guardian on a distant chunk of ring. People spotted it in one of the campaign previews and I think Unyshek pretty much confirmed it then.

[mental yarrow]

It’s undeniable

The little accent wing

100% sure that’s the guardian I played enough halo five

Campaign is not fun to play but I still do it for some reason

MP

I had fun

[onyx wadi]

I got one more achievement on xbox to go for it then I think I'll maybe uninstall it to free up some space.

[mental yarrow]

Are they updating the servers because of the extra four players and big team battle?

In*

In multiplayer I’m still not max rank

It’s been six years

😂

[onyx wadi]

Me neither, I was like halfway through 144, not sure if I'll ever get around to finishing that. Especially since I don't know if you can still get that coating anymore as a reward for 152

[unique rune]

I'm just hoping for a PC port for Halo 5 at some point.
Real inconvenient to have every game but 5 available on PC.

[mental yarrow]

Yeah idk I had hopes for warzone play list

If only they had this ai

[onyx wadi]

Oh yeah forgot almost that they didn't do that yet, they should at some point for those wanting to play it

[mental yarrow]

They were the biggest Maps in halo

If they can do co-op then they can definitely get something like that together again

[onyx wadi]

I liked 5s Fiesta mode I believe more, bigger weapon pool was mainly why.

[mental yarrow]

Yeah that playlist was a completely separate project I don’t know if they will just and it

Griff ball five is goat

[mental yarrow]

Agreed and variance

[twilit kite]

Just finished the campaign… after further research I didn’t realize that so many forerunners survived the halo firing

[mental yarrow]

In this fiesta mood I think they should change up your grenades to

[twilit kite]

I thought it was like only the didact

[mental yarrow]

Mode

So everybody Spaans in with different grenades considering the weapon list is so short

Spawn

[onyx wadi]

If you read Point of Light there's a few Forerunners too that have lived on as monitors @twilit kite

Yes differing grenades would have been good

[mental yarrow]

Yeah the story of Chakos is really interesting

It’s one of my favorite in the Lord at least

So I assume point of lightHas some interesting elements

[onyx wadi]

Yes it is a good one and his story gets continued in that novel also

[mental yarrow]

That Spotify book was great

Memory agent

I enjoyed that

The hell the UNSC do to that woman 😂

[onyx wadi]

I'm almost thinking speaking of him that he might have encountered the Endless possibly too. Because there was this unknown alien ship that crash landed on his Installation at one point. There was also even earlier some communication reaching out shortly before the Halos were fired from some unknown species

[twilit kite]

My biggest question with the Halo series in general was, why were the forerunners not indexed so that they could continue their empire

Why bother exiling themselves?

Was it out of shame for their failures?

[onyx wadi]

Perhaps arrogance, or out of shame of what they did to their own creators and then later to other life with the Halos?

[mental yarrow]

They had plans to apparently everything happened so fast they never got to it that’s in ghosts of onyx

The flood

[tidal imp]

The Forerunners also did have a second Greater Ark meant to protect their species population

That one got overrun and destroyed

[onyx wadi]

Would have been maybe better off with a shield world or something too

[unique rune]

That was basically the intent, yeah.

[mental yarrow]

Well I think in the end they took it as this is the position were in because of our failures acceptance isn’t that they didn’t want to

[onyx wadi]

I hope the Didact gets a return in some form someday. It was disappointing how he was defeated in a comic rather than at the end of H4

Would have been a good add on to the story or something as a dlc

[dense pulsar]

Didact 2.0

[mental yarrow]

Think Locke is ded?

[onyx wadi]

I don't think so

[mental yarrow]

He nude

Then

Run around in his thermals

[onyx wadi]

I don't think they would go through having Halo Nightfall and then being an important figure in H5 to just being gone

[mental yarrow]

His helmet is on the shoulder pads of a Brute and is Referred to in a propaganda broadcast

But banished lie for glory

So he could be alive

I’ve could’ve just gotten his helmet

They

And they made up the story

[lavish scaffold]

Here's a fun theory so the grunt communication guy was singing The halo warthog theme which makes you think that maybe the music plays inside masterchief's helmet in lore and

[mental yarrow]

Who is that plushy of at the middle peak of the halo

?

[lavish scaffold]

And the actual monk singing halo theme was confirmed Canon since the prophet of regret (I think) sings it

[lavish scaffold]

Dm me the picture

[mental yarrow]

When I found that the halo monk kicked in here I’ll send a video

[stable brook]

Yo is there anything worse then the flood?

[lavish scaffold]

Doubt it. Its probably just dramatic effect

[stable brook]

Is it glutan?

[mental yarrow]

Who’s that? @lavish scaffold any idea

[lavish scaffold]

Either a dev

Or the pilot before he got knocked out

[mental yarrow]

I thought it was Marty

Wait he doesn’t have a beard

I thought maybe it was the monk who did the ohh s since the music kicked in when I found it

I seen an arbiter plushy like it

Well with this whole open world style and finding the artifacts it really makes me feel I’m unlocking the secrets of the halos it’s pretty cool

And why no Skimmer in open world? Or am I just not seeing

They made them super tiny in nightfall

They are described as being made more of like thousands of worms instead of hundreds of thousands

The way they look in game this game is the best I’ve seen them the way they were described

I think you see them in the animated series too

If I remember

Right

[onyx wadi]

I saw a few skimmers open world but it's not common.

[mental yarrow]

When I seen Grut In guardians of the galaxy

That’s closer to what I thought hunters look like

But instead of roots worms

[onyx wadi]

Some were just because of the HVT, but I recall fighting a few in one part of the map which wasn't a mission

[mental yarrow]

Yea maybe

I just don’t see them Enough and to be honest I haven’t really looked

I’m glad Jason is back

Storyboard way better than any destiny or halo todate

The way they connected the linear path story to the open world story is really done well at all feels like halo

[weak walrus]

So question. Is the Plasma Pistol’s fully charge up attack lethal? All I’ve ever seen it do is incapacitate organics in media.

[unique rune]

It’s a blob of ionized superheated gas that burns as hot as a star.

Anything it hits that isn’t shielded or specially armored is going to get some really horrible burns, best case scenario.

[weak walrus]

Oh so it does actually kill? I saw Halo 2’s day at the beach cutscenes and all did was knock out the elite before the ODST shot it with the BR. I thought because it was EMP it would incapacitate the target.

[unique rune]

It overloaded the Elite’s energy shields.

[native berry]

can someone tell me more information about the invisible elite boss in halo infinite? The red and black one. Hes my favorite character and I dont really know alot about halo lore.

[night flax]

Hes a new character, all his lore is in infinite

[native berry]

thanks

[dense pulsar]

Alot of people seem to think they'd be able to take a grunt in a 1v1

[final hound]

Huge

[unique rune]

To be fair, it's not like the games give a great impression of the Unggoy.

[final hound]

No way

[unique rune]

They look like they're 3ft tall and run away at the slightest provocation, even if they canonically are like 5ft and can rip Spartans' arms off.

[lavish scaffold]

Probably shaq o Neil can

[final hound]

Shaq would have a decent chance lmaoo

[lavish scaffold]

Goblin can definitely 1v1 a grunt

[final hound]

Im pretty sure our human 7 footers and such could win, but the exoskeleton is still a thing

[dense pulsar]

In a fist fight? You're getting killed

With a weapon of some sort like a sword or a Lance? You're chances are better

A gun? You can definitely take a grunt

[final hound]

I mean with a lance, if theyre unarmed 😂

Cqb is definitely not going favorably to all but the strongest humans

[midnight kestrel]

I forget that Spartans are literally 7 ft tall

It’s crazy

[dense pulsar]

Tfw no Spartan gf

[white basalt]

Most are just about the height of an elite, but just barely

Brutes are 9ft tall and some are taller than others

[final hound]

How do you guys feel about a pensioner prophet casually draping 15 pounds from two fingertips with an outstretched arm

And based on that, how strong do you all think a young, healthy san shyuum is? And how would they fare against the other species?

[midnight kestrel]

(Sad master Chief sitting)

[left swan]

why do the Banished hate humans so much?

did some humans join the banished in some of the books?

[midnight kestrel]

That’s a good question
Even Atriox calls them “little demons”

[fair hazel]

Play infinite to find out

[midnight kestrel]

I still gotta get the campaign
I’m trying to save up

[fair hazel]

gamepass it

[midnight kestrel]

Oh good idea thanks

[versed helm]

Does Spartan II and Spartan III programs are different for recruitment?

*What do I mean by that is how they were recruited.

[unique rune]

Spartan-II candidates were picked from children noted to have standout physical/mental attributes plus strict genetic screening for augmentation compatibility.

Spartan-III candidates were pulled from war orphans who underwent less stringent genetic screening.

[midnight kestrel]

Was there a Spartan I program?

[sharp tusk]

Kinda I think? iirc Sgt. Johnson is a spartan 1

[midnight kestrel]

Interesting

[sharp tusk]

They didn't get special armor, they were just more powerful than a standard marine

[midnight kestrel]

Ohhh

[sharp tusk]

Spartan one's are "chemically enhanced volunteers from the armed forces"

Spartan 2's and 3's lore is above

Spartan 1's were part of the ORION project

And apparently if a spartan 1 has a child they are knowm as spartan 1.1's

[fair hazel]

So I probably missed thge canon fodder discussion

[unique rune]

Yeah, Orion was only retroactively designated Spartan-I years after. Spartan-II was called Spartan to distance it from Orion’s failures, but the -II was appended on as a tribute to the previous project.

[fast swift]

Ok but hang on how about the part where Johnson was even more special being immune to the flood?

[midnight kestrel]

He was?

Is that lore accurate?

[unique rune]

Not anymore

[tidal imp]

They are called Prelates

And they are compared to a Spartan in terms of danger

https://www.halopedia.org/Prelate

Augmented with special gear

[unique rune]

His augmentations were originally written to have scrambled his nervous system and made it more difficult for the Flood to infect him but it’s since been retconned to just him being That Good.

[tidal imp]

Spartan-I after all

[unique rune]

So no Flood immunity, he’s just good at evading infection.

[tidal imp]

It would be silly tbh if flood immunity was that simple

[sharp tusk]

Oh? You had chemicals injected so you're a little stronger than usual? Flood infection immunity.

[tidal imp]

Silly Forerunners, just throw a box full of plasma grenades, then the flood can’t infect you

[autumn shale]

So the orion project is more effective than whatever the didact did to himself lmao

[tidal imp]

That’s the official cover story

Seriously ONI, not your best work

Well more to cover up the Orion project

By claiming it was a medical condition

From too many thrown plasma grenades

It fooled Master Chief though.

The implications of that are not great for John’s critical thinking tbh

[midnight kestrel]

What would’ve happened if Sgt.Johnson survived?

[gilded mason]

Probably nothing noteworthy

[midnight kestrel]

Would’ve been great to see him or the Arbiter in Infinite

[mental pebble]

I would have liked to see the Banished have a Scarab on Zeta Halo

[midnight kestrel]

Dang imagine the dialogue between Locke and Johnson if Johnson did survive
I dislike halo 5 as much as most of the fandom does but some of its dialogue is really good.

[mental pebble]

Would have probably told him that Chief just saved them from extinction

[versed helm]

Also from what I have seen, Spartan II program include abduction, while Spartan III program include taking orphans affected by war.

[tidal imp]

In a few rare cases, Spartan-II candidates included orphans, which meant no flash clone was needed for those candidates

Serin Osman being the most notable example

[astral dust]

So how did Atriox and the Banished find the Infinity, is it covered in a novel? Also is Infinite after HW2?

[gilded mason]

Also is Infinite after HW2?
Yep

[untold wasp]

anyone know the fireteam in the halo infinite multiplayer trailer

[near juniper]

I’m pretty sure the lord still says Orion stuff makes him immune however that’s also a perfectly reasonable explanation

[bronze schooner]

And then ||Humanity’s greatest ship is somehow defeated in 4 minutes||

[bronze schooner]

The flood know he’s augmented or something so he’s “Less desirable”

[unique rune]

Not anymore.

[gilded mason]

I’m pretty sure the lord still says Orion stuff makes him immune
Nah. Catalog posts and HW2 phoenix logs make it explicit that no augments can prevent infection

[near juniper]

Johnson really is just that good

[vernal notch]

What about Stacker and Dubbo? I mean, i heard the theories about Dubbo being a precursor, but nothing spectacular about Stacker

[astral dust]

Is Grand Edict a new character?

[wispy wasp]

It looks like Jun already possibly had the spartan academy as a location for the spartans to move to, is it possible they may have been able to silently retreat there before the stations destruction?

[desert kite]

no

[autumn glen]

How did the forerunners|| fire the Halos and then discover the endless after if the firing of the rings took out the forerunners? Was it just one ring fired as a test fire?|| Marking as spoiler since I'm not sure if thats allowed here.

[gilded mason]

||The remaining Forerunners did the firing at the Ark.||

[autumn glen]

Thanks

[ornate sapphire]

I think (don't quote me) Atriox commanded the banished to locate cortana after she ||destroyed their home planet|| and happened to arrive the same time the infinity did

[night flax]

we dont know the specifics about how atriox got where he did

[wide kettle]

Guys I don’t get how Spartans respawn after they die in multiplayer

[inland moss]

I’m pretty sure multiplayer is explained as training for Spartans

From what I remember

Like simulations

||Also is atriox dead?|| not sure what I have to spoiler mark

[vernal notch]

As of 4 and 5, multiplayer is considered canon as it's spartan training aboard the infinity

[lavish scaffold]

I think he means like how can they survive

Getting exploded

Lasered

Shot

Incinerated

Disintegrated

It's probably a vr simulation

Like if we have games like blades and sorcery in vr rn

500 years in the future the physics will probably be more realistic

[vernal notch]

Well, yeah

Vr training lol. I forgot to add that part

[fringe robin]

negative

[tired terrace]

He was a deacon in the covenant, which for an unggoy is the likely only administrative rank they can hold but still a very low rank in the covenant

He was kidnapped by the banished and for a time served them until he decided to rebel to find some mythical methane mines on the ark

[versed helm]

how do peeps think the flood was made?

cause they cant just come from nothing right?

[night flax]

the flood is precursors who turned themslves into powder, over millenia the powder was corrupted, it was found by ancient humanity and used as cosmetics to make their pets of choice prettier and more docile, over generations those pets mutated into the flood

[versed helm]

mk then thx.

ok what would have happened if johnson survived 343 guity spark?

in halo 2

[tired terrace]

He would’ve chilled with chief in the forward unto dawn in 4

Or probably have died later actually

Cause the ship at the end of halo 3 did get ripped in half

[versed helm]

yeah true

or maybe what if he somehow came into inf?

[sudden cypress]

Uh

isn't he still alive

We saw him again later, right? Or am I trippin

[tired terrace]

He dead for sure

[heavy yoke]

There’s an Easter Egg in 4 that results in a Sargent appearing who might be a reference to him, but it isn’t canon and the Sargent isn’t a direct 1-1

[spring elbow]

what is Reverie everyone is talking about?

[night flax]

the crashed frigate outpost tremonius is built next to

[spring elbow]

thanks

that base we saw in Multiplayer tutorial .. what is the name of it ? pls

[night flax]

its the sergeant avery j. johnson somethin

[unique rune]

Avery J. Johnson Academy of Military Science

[spring elbow]

thanks

[unkempt ingot]

Who're the endless? The precursors?

[tired terrace]

Canonically Johnson dead as dirt

[dense pulsar]

Why did Master Chief get into a MCU fist fight instead of disengaging and getting a gun?

[wraith geode]

Im sure this has been asked before but You guys think Operation Red Flag would have worked? If all went right preceeding the operation and say they captured someone like Truth?

[tired terrace]

No

The loss of one of the prophets is an inconvenience at worst and an opportunity at best depending on who you look at

The great journey waits for no one brother, not even you

[azure lynx]

^

Anyone read any of the Enders game books?

I have some interesting ideas about cortana not being dead

Curious to see what you guys think

[night flax]

Bringing her back narratively would be worse then her turning evil in 5 at this point

[tacit hill]

is the chief even truly human anymore? i heard someone say cortana nessed with his dna and made him a precurser biologically

[gilded mason]

Whoever told you that was messing with you.

[maiden torrent]

Are you referring to how the librarian activated his latent "gene song"? It was alluded that ALL humans have that dna within them when the librarian saved/indexed them to protect them from the didact

[gilded mason]

There is no latent precursor DNA.

[tacit hill]

thx i was really confused for a sec

[clear beacon]

No, we don't really know yet. So far all we know was that they were apparently so advanced that even the Forerunners were scared of them and had difficulty controlling them.

[clear beacon]

No, the spot would have just been replaced probably.

[maiden torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-3580667

[wispy fable]

https://youtu.be/yDU6M2814WA

its lore

[halcyon elbow]

no he isnt

[quick slate]

Atriox is very much alive, Escharum died

[near tide]

He lives

[inland moss]

where is he?

[near tide]

Idk

[twilit kite]

I think what the game tries to tell us is that the Endless a) could survive the Halo rings and b) had some form of time travel technology that the Forerunners did not

[rough spire]

um

they were stuck in those pod things that the forerunners put them in to keep them for a later date

they did it with thousands of species iirc

to protect them from when the rings ignited

[rough spire]

but seeing it back again it does seem sorta like that

[austere stone]

are trains canon

not the monorail i mean railroad train

[errant tendon]

I mean, Humanity in Halo shared the same past as ours

Like, World War 2 did happen

So yeah, I guess, Railroad trains existed in halo

[versed helm]

It's for sure that the endless survived the firing of the array, my question is how did they come to be on the ring? And what's up with them that let them survive Halo?

[twilit kite]

They were imprisoned as cylixes by the Forerunners

[night flax]

despondent pyre took the ring to their homeworld

[versed helm]

oh factual I forgot about that

[leaden cypress]

Waot

What lore am I missing???

The ring to the endless homeworld?

[night flax]

iirc its in the banished archaeology logs

[versed helm]

from what I understand Despondent Pyre moved the ring to the endless homeworld so the forerunners and the endless could have a parlay

[leaden cypress]

I need t go through them all again

Parlay?

[versed helm]

ope

Parley

[night flax]

conversation between hostile/potentially hostile parties

[versed helm]

Like a diplomacy mission

[leaden cypress]

Ohh

So where were they during the forerunner human war?

[versed helm]

Excellent question

I don't believe that's covered

[leaden cypress]

Oooooh

[versed helm]

I don't know what the technological standing was for the endless when the forerunners had the parley but I believe they became such a massive threat because they survived the rings firing

Which in the forerunner's eyes was a big no-no

(I think)

[leaden cypress]

Well if the foreunners using the flood as a farm to keep the foreunners power in their hands then I'd say they would have something sus in their biology

They can zip zap wherever

So they were able to move away from any potential danger

Like when the rings fired, they most likely would have teleported somewhere that the rings blast had covered already

[austere stone]

i mean yes but is there any medium that shows railroads in the 2500s?

i just wanna know if the modern train today became more modern or if we’ve peaked the railroad technology but i also spose there’s more ways to ship freight than ever

[royal aurora]

I'm pretty sure in one of the movies/Legends there's a super advanced train in it.

[gusty star]

https://www.halopedia.org/Maglev_train

This is a good start

[sullen ridge]

they probably use maglevs

[versed helm]

I mean… Kikiwani station showed one I believe in Halo 3 ODST

Is Spartan 1337 a canonical character?

[dense pulsar]

Ya know

I think the events of ODST happened

but I like to think the missions we play are what the Rookie imagines them have happened like

[leaden cypress]

Mmmm

I don't know

I reckon the rookie went through it sll

[versed helm]

Do I need to play Halo 5 to understand anything or not miss out on any story in infinite?

[lost stirrup]

Eh. As someone with too many hours in 5 watch a brief summary and skip it IMO

[glacial oracle]

Missing Halo 5 will leave you with a lack of knowledge on Halo infinite and you wont understand alot of the plot points. As Reaper suggested finding a YT summary may be better.

[versed helm]

hm okay! I've heard it's bad so😭 lmao I'll do that, playing through all four Halo games rn <3

[glacial oracle]

Keep it up Spartan

unless your a elite preferred species

[sullen ridge]

what if you prefer the flood

[versed helm]

nO the flood is gross I hate them so much aHh

gives me the heebie jeebies❗

[hollow sentinel]

How much of humanity is left? Wiki says about 200 million on earth was left after 2552 but what about everything at the current date?

[glacial oracle]

Humanity is back within what I dare to say billions. After the conclusion of the human-covenant war at the end of halo 3 humanity had rebuilt dramatically in both reclaiming glassed worlds and expanding in technology.

They pulled a full 360.

[hollow sentinel]

Sweet

[versed helm]

do we know anything about the endless outside of what we're told in infinite?

[leaden cypress]

Nop

Only theories

[modest quarry]

A species known as the Xalanyn that existed during the fall of the Forerunners reign.

That’s it so far. Few things to read into as part of the legendary ending, but mostly speculation.

[quick slate]

What happened to the flood after Awakening the Nightmare?

[tired terrace]

Containment was likely reestablished

They’re still there on the ark though

[quick slate]

Spirit of Fire? They shouldve still been fighting the Banished since Infinite takes place after HW2 and H5

[tired terrace]

Yeah of course

But atriox at some point returns to the galaxy

Because escharum was in charge of all the banished outside of the ark the whole time

[fallow spade]

so like, whats the point of the yoroi armor, from all the blurbs you can read in game it just seems weeby

[quick slate]

I think its just there to be cool

[leaden cobalt]

Just the latest equivalent of Hayabusa

[radiant cave]

how do the cruisers land? i thought they didnt have the engine capability to do so?

[unique rune]

He is not.

[valid hemlock]

sad moments we're living on 😔

[leaden cobalt]

If Spartan 1337 was canon that would mean those two random teenagers who are def not Gohan and Videl would exist too😭

[tired terrace]

They sort of just hover over the surface most of the time

And have a grav lift down like the truth and reconciliation in ce

But they can land

[spare grotto]

They can land they just don’t have like landing gear

So it would obviously damage the hull of cruisers due to weight, less so for frigates

[untold wasp]

What happened to noble actual

[high scaffold]

what actual happened to noble is he died he fought of the last bit of the elites because he was prepared to die prior to chief being in the piller of autumn

[tired terrace]

hes dead

Even if he survived through lone wolf he wouldve been left in the barren wasteland reach became for over 3 decades

[clever turret]

sup

[quick slate]

It was also glassed, he would be melting

[final bobcat]

😂😂😂 that wording cracked me up "alone n the wasteland for 30 years" poor N6 lol

[scarlet hinge]

assuming you mean Colonel Holland (the guy with the callsign Noble Actual in-game), his fate has never been elaborated upon

including whether he died or not

[lone spade]

Is that true that theres 2 Arks made by the forerruners?

[fast falcon]

Yeah the Lesser Ark and the Greater Ark

[lone spade]

Does those 2 arks appear on the halo 3?

[tired terrace]

The one in 3 is the lesser ark

[boreal basin]

What if the Endless are the completed versions of the Flood? The flood was an experiment attempting to gain something, could that have been the endless? So will the endless be smarter, more complete non-mutated versions of the flood?

[ashen atlas]

gravemind is forklift certified

[silver prism]

Endless are likely to be Precursors or Precursor descendants.

[lone spade]

Arent flood corrupted pre-cursors?

[opal gazelle]

post-precursors or as I like to call them: The Cursors

[boreal basin]

not sure, i thought the Precursors were the ones that created the flood using humans as sacrifices. It could be the case that, the corrupted rouge Precursor created the flood, and another Precursor created the Endless, a non-corrupted flood.

Maybe the precursors could create large armies to protect what they create, and that's why the corrupted precursor made the flood, and when you look at the words.

Flood - an endless stream of water

Endless - something that is infinite

quite similar, the endless might be the completed, non-mutated version of the flood.

[fast falcon]

Except the flood were already a mutated version of a form of dust that the Precursors had evolved into to escape the forerunners if I’m not mistaken

[opal gazelle]

Yeah non mutated flood is just a precursor.

Also the name of the Flood is more of a biblical reference and probably not a hint at a plotline invented by 343 20 years later

[fast falcon]

I wouldn’t mind it tho if the Endless were just the Precursors, even if they were from the same stuff that made the flood except not mutated

I do hope the Harbinger isn’t one of them, or if so then a much weaker form of Precursor. I’m just not a fan of the design

[edgy shadow]

But like what are the xalanyn then

[austere stone]

dang this is interesting the pre-mongoose https://www.halopedia.org/Sperry_FCMMagLEV

tho im super interested what a maglev drivetrain would be like

[versed helm]

We gotta wait to find out

:)

[austere stone]

since the warthog is hydrogen powered, do you think that they've gone away with oil / gasoline?

what fuel does a scorpion take?

[versed helm]

Possibly hydrogen as well

[edgy shadow]

They probably got a bunch of fuel sources in the next 500 years

[austere stone]

"The M808 Scorpion was first manufactured in 2218[6], rumbling across the sands of Mars and over the rubble of urban battlezones on Earth.[10] " huh

apparently the scorpions design is so efficient and able that they've had it around for over 300 years

[versed helm]

If it works it works

[austere stone]

oh of course

and heck the Pelican entered service in 2392

[versed helm]

Is why the basic rifle construction hardly changes

[edgy shadow]

Did humanity like technologically stagnate

[versed helm]

Sometimes I wish we could see the 2200s

[austere stone]

it seems kinda like it

[versed helm]

The Interplanetary Wars

Stuff like that

[austere stone]

also the scorpion upgrade; the grizzly came out in 2509 so it took nearly 300 years to upgrade the scorpion platform

[versed helm]

And it was by some wacky sergeant

Man I just realized I miss Forge

The character

[austere stone]

manufactured by Chalybs Defense Solutions, manufacturers of the m808 scorpion

i hope if we made it to 2500's we take these names

ofc it'll prob still be Lockleer or whatever by that time but still

"The origins of the Grizzly are shrouded, due to maneuverings by many competing bureaucratic and corporate interests within the UNSC at the time of its development. The Grizzly quickly found a niche with Army and Marine units despite initial skepticism and the logistical challenges of transporting it. The Grizzly proved invaluable both as an anti-armor vehicle and a mobile fortress that could drive straight into the heart of insurrection positions and outgun any rebel armored vehicles. The beginning of the Human-Covenant War cemented the Grizzly’s reputation as the bane of enemy armored vehicles. On the open field the Grizzly was practically unstoppable, and often forced the Covenant to deploy naval assets in order to decisively end the threat that even one or two tanks could cause to their staging areas and supply columns."
dang

[versed helm]

The Kestrel is also op

[austere stone]

also this

The UNSC Spirit of Fire carried a large complement of Grizzlies, largely due to the preferences of Sergeant John Forge, who turned the tanks' acquisition into a personal project of his.

"I just think they're neat" meme

[versed helm]

UNSC tech is either underpowered or overpowered

No in between

[austere stone]

"He's got the Halo 1 pistol!"

[versed helm]

"He's got the Halo 3 pistol hahahahah"

[austere stone]

"Halo Wars 2 has an infected Grizzly that goes unused." what the heck

https://halo.wiki.gallery/images/9/9a/HW2_Infected_Grizzly.png

wow i never noticed this thing, and I played a lil halo wars 2

talking about this makes me wanna pop halo wars 1 in

[versed helm]

Halo wars 2 is great

[austere stone]

it is

but it feels a little more mobile gamish

halo wars 1 was v nicely made

[versed helm]

I prefer 2

[austere stone]

and i was on the skeptical train because "halo rts bad"

i prefer 1

[versed helm]

I am not an rts gal so 2 was a better experience for me

More streamlined

[austere stone]

ahhh

im big into rts so i was excited but still skeptical then when i played it i sunk too many hours into it

and they did a v good job making halo an rts

[versed helm]

Wars 1 is still fun even tho the story is pretty meh

[austere stone]

and the cutscenes are some of the best (looking)

ya its a lil hard to summon a story outta no where 30 years before the halo 1 story but it was nice

[versed helm]

Wars 2 I felt had a more engaging story because it had so many new ideas

[austere stone]

ye however (i haven't played infinite pls don't spoil) wonder if the ending of hw2 connects with the rest of the story

cuz (spoilers for anyone who hasn't completely halo wars 2)

the whole last scene of Anders seeing a Halo warp in was like 'oh boy what'

[versed helm]

That ending was cool

[austere stone]

my favorite scene was the AI using a covie cruiser to glass the halo

[versed helm]

I also believe OPERATION: SPEARBREAKER is underrated

[austere stone]

which ones that?

[versed helm]

And was a fun dlc chapter

You play as Sunray Squad

[austere stone]

in hw2?

[versed helm]

Everyone talks about Awakening the Nightmare

Yeah

Divine Wind has some narrative connections to Halo Wars 2

[austere stone]

ah ok im looking up the operation spearbreaker now

[versed helm]

And is a great read

[austere stone]

you actually play as odst?

[versed helm]

Same with Shadows of Reach

Yeah!

[austere stone]

i noticed i have a bunch of new dlc's downloaded for hw2 via xbox app on windows

so i don't know what theyve added since and if i even have it, i saw a forge dlc and whatnot

[versed helm]

I feel like if Halo wars 2 didn't exist Halo Infinite would not be as good as it is

But I should go to bed

[austere stone]

i’m late to this comment but it’s explained in halo shadows of reach that atriox was on the lesser ark prior to returning to the halo ring

[austere stone]

it was still a good game might give it a shot tonight for a quick skirmish gn

[tidal imp]

The same wacky sergeant that sees Spartan Jerome and decides Yeah, I think I'll deck him

[split flax]

Cruisers weigh a lot, they’re assisted by like boosters and such. In reach the pillar of autumn has these attached to her in a few cutscenes and when she leaves they activate and then shed off.

[austere stone]

but then consider the halo 3 scene with the frigates firing at the forerunner key ship; they dont have boosters yet they're in the air. Or the halo 3 mission of the forward until dawn landing scorpions on the ark

[unique rune]

The UNSC’s cruisers and frigates are in two entirely different weight classes.

[austere stone]

but still requires the same technology to 'hover' in atmosphere no?

[unique rune]

Maybe? For whatever unexplained and likely unimportant reason, UNSC cruisers just aren’t shown to be capable of sustained flight under a planet’s gravity.

[astral dust]

When you say cruiser do you mean like Infinity big or smaller?

[split flax]

No, as in the ship type. Cruiser.

[unique rune]

Smaller. Like the Halcyon-class that the Pillar of Autumn belonged to. The Infinity is classified as a supercarrier.

[split flax]

There’s no reason explained why ships can float around in the atmosphere though, it just “looks cool”.

There’s a reason on why cruisers can’t leave without extra thrust though from a rest, that is called weight.

The “hover” technology doesn’t exist though. The ships shouldn’t be able to operate in atmo without boosters.

[patent dagger]

⚠️ HALO INFINITE CAMPAIGN SPOILER ⚠️

With the destruction of the Brute home world, how will they reproduce? I sure as hell haven't seen any female Brutes in Halo.

[misty gull]

They have those forerunner replicating machines

So they just pump out new home bois

[patent dagger]

wait

Then why don't they just replicate their whole army?

And not to mention their fleet?

[misty gull]

maybe they do

[patent dagger]

Easy overwhelming military.

Probably so the franchise can go on but logically it makes no sense

[fast falcon]

The brutes likely existed on other planets and may have had a few colonies

They’re endangered most definitely, but I’m sure there’s more females out there

[split flax]

They have multiple other worlds they are colonized on.

[fast falcon]

The covenant controlled a huge portion of known space, and likely hundreds of planets

Though the brutes were one of the newer races to the Covenant I think, so they may not have had as much time as other races to expand

[split flax]

They where still seeded by the covenant, a colony can easily have a few million brutes. Arcadia was rather small colony and had 3 million population.

Teash a moon of Doisac, it’s not said it the moons where destroyed or not though.

[fast falcon]

The brutes may not be as influential a species anymore, but they’re not extinct yet

[wary hearth]

Doisac was destroyed but they still live on

[left gazelle]

Come to think of it I've never seen a female specimen of any of the covenant's species

[versed helm]

You haven’t watched Halo Legends huh @left gazelle

[left gazelle]

Nope

[versed helm]

I’d recommend watching Halo Legends: The Duel it’s a good watch

Think there’s a female elite

Kinda looks like the avatar

[rotund oasis]

There is

[left gazelle]

Is she hot

[rotund oasis]

Bruh

[versed helm]

😂😂😂

[rotund oasis]

They look very skinny so no not really

[left gazelle]

Ah of course

[rotund oasis]

I mean halo them self’s even said there is a female In every race in halo but we never see them because they are more of a home protector or a stay at home mom that is highly skilled in combat

But grunt females idk

[left gazelle]

I mean it's possible

I wanna see a female hunter

[rotund oasis]

I mean the grunt females are probably more useless than the male no hate on females btw

But that is why they probably stay home

[versed helm]

I think you need help

💀💀

[rotund oasis]

But it does make sense the males go out and fight while the females stay at home and tend to the young

[left gazelle]

Not in that way

But I wouldn't be opposed

[versed helm]

gn I’m out 💀💀😂

[rotund oasis]

Anyone looking at my stuff

[versed helm]

I’m pretty sure some of the Jackals in infinite are female

[left gazelle]

Oh

Yeah whichever one had the pinpoint needler

[versed helm]

Holy moly, I just finished Memory Agent, and I bleeding called it!

[unique rune]

Mgalekgolo don’t really have.. genders in that sense, considering they’re agglomerations of smaller separate eels. A “female” Hunter just wouldn’t really be a thing, since the ones we see all the time don’t really have a gender to begin with.

[sullen ridge]

ah yes your gender is checks notes

colony of worms with a hivemind

[left gazelle]

I know but what about different formations of the mgalekgolo worms outside of the "hunters"?

[unique rune]

Well, I mean, we’ve already seen the Mgalekolo colony type as the control system for Scarabs in addition to taking on the form of Hunters, which can also form into Goliaths. The Harvester in Halo 4’s Spartan Ops missions is controlled by a Sbaolekgolo colony formation. Nightfall features a Thanolekgolo colony type.

Meanwhile Dipholekgolo, Rhulolekgolo, and Khantolekgolo were namedropped on Waypoint once but they’ve never actually been elaborated on.

Kinda hope the upcoming new Encyclopedia touches on those.

[mental plover]

Installation 05, Delta Halo...

[pine gorge]

Oh that's flood infested lol

[glacial oracle]

Nah its surface was glassed by the Elites.

Cleansing the infection

[pine gorge]

O.o

[mental plover]

Strange stone structures resembling Forerunner architecture-

[glacial oracle]

Except for high charity which broke through the line.

[mental plover]

Did the Delta have a Human population like Zeta?

[glacial oracle]

Uhhh

[mental plover]

Ancient Human, primitive-

Before the Rings cleansed the galaxy.

[glacial oracle]

I honestly got no idea

I dont recall any lore pointing out it was inhabited.

[glacial oracle]

Actually.

[mental plover]

My assumption has always been that it was either:
a.) an intelligent species that was housed on Delta Halo for indexing, like humanity was on Zeta Halo, preserved by the Forerunners as a monument to their past.
or b.) those are Forerunner ruins, but the absence of Penitent Tangent, and the prioritisation of containing the Flood in the Quarantine Zone, meant that the usual level of upkeep non-essential structures would have had just wasn't there, allowing them to fall into considerable disrepair.

[glacial oracle]

Yes

[mental plover]

This is just speculation from a redditor-

[glacial oracle]

Recalling back within the Halo 2 missions the ruins within the mission seemed to imply that were was other species on the Ring. At the very lest it wasn't made by forerunners.

Way to ancient to be forerunner.

[mental plover]

Another user

There are H2 maps with similar architecture to those in Delta Halo and confirmed to be Forerunner structures

Another user

Interesting. I know that zeta halo supposedly had primitive humans living on it that may have created something like this. It’s weird that forerunners would create something so primitive right on top of their advanced structures.

[glacial oracle]

They aren't wrong. Forerunners almost always have used some kind of metallic material in their structures yet the ruins on Delta were stone.

The issue is that we dont know the secondary purpose of Delta halo

[mental plover]

An imitation-

But a rather impressive one

Those towers-

Above the water

How they built something like that is astonishing

[glacial oracle]

Could have had help from the forerunners or the monitor.

[mental plover]

Indeed.

Before crap hit the fan

[glacial oracle]

Yeah, or it could be a oversight of the developers

[mental plover]

Most likely-

It would be interesting to come across ruins in CE

Meaning that there was some type of experiment going on-

[glacial oracle]

Fallout vibes.

[mental plover]

Raising them to be worthy holders of the Mantle maybe?

[glacial oracle]

Doubt it. The rings were made by the librarian who liked ancient humanity. I couldn't see her making any experiments with them.

[fossil hollow]

so question : were the spartan 4s we found on zata halo the only spartans on the infinite ?

[mental plover]

Well no-

[glacial oracle]

well not MADE but suggested

[neon moss]

Nay

[mental plover]

Guiding them, in a sense.

[fossil hollow]

than do we know the full count or ?

[neon moss]

Might wanna discuss this in campaign spoilers instead

[glacial oracle]

Possible but not alot of information on Delta sadly

[mental plover]

Thanks to being glassed, lol

[real glacier]

Yeah fr haven’t even finished the tower yet lmao

[untold wasp]

who are spartan horvath and kovan?

[fair hazel]

Some of the Spartans from infinite data pads

[quick slate]

why were the spartan IIs so jacked and seen up to compared to the rest of the spartans again?

[fast falcon]

They’re the 75 top candidates from dozens, if not hundreds of planets so they were physically some of the best they could find, and then trained nonstop for years and underwent incredibly dangerous physical enhancements that killed or crippled at least half of them

[steel stone]

https://viewcomiconline.com/halo-fall-of-reach-invasion-02/

This was a cool read, artwork looks awesome and did look weird as hell at some points.

My favourite parts is seeing the Spartan 2s wear the CE armor with different helmets, they should of added those the Halo 1 CE multiplayer

[split flax]

Spartan II’s cost to much. III’s where cheaper.

4’s cheaper than that.

[steel stone]

Why are the Spartan 4s in Halo 5 the same height as Spartan 2s? was it an error? from what I know the 4s are average height since they have less augmentations.

[split flax]

Spartan 4’s are about 6’9 ish I think. With 2’s being 7’2 ish.

Chief is 7 foot tall I think, he’s rather short.

You get a good height comparison @steel stone when him and Palmer stand next to each other.

[proud steeple]

halo 5 campaign bad

[split flax]

Just 343 being 343.

[steel stone]

That only happened at the end of the game though he was not like that in the campaign I swear

[split flax]

Chief would have destroyed Locke in a fist fight.

[split flax]

That’s just perspective as well, would look wonky if your character was 7 feet tall off the ground in first person.

[proud steeple]

yes

[steel stone]

No Chief would of folded him like a towel, so many hate Halo 5s Chief Vs Locke fight

[steel stone]

In the games you actually are 7 foot, you can tell because you often look down in Halo 3 at the marines they are very small compared to you. Elites just blew my mind at their height though

[split flax]

You’re right.

[steel stone]

Halo 3 Elites are hunched but if get to them stand tall they tower over you, try that in Crows nest intro level that got a laugh out of me