#lore-and-universe

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nimble laurel
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@sterile prawn still factions around the galxy

sterile prawn
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do any prophets still exist?

unique rune
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Their species does still exist in the galaxy

acoustic aspen
nimble laurel
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Could still be minors around

sterile prawn
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ah okay

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i didn't really get what happened to them since i played through the games ages ago and didn't understand the jul mdama stuff

versed helm
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what i don’t understand is how the banished was able to destroy the infinity and her fleet

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i mean the infinity has over 400 spartans onboard, with a fleet and has 10 cruisers inside the ship

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versed helm
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and that’s not counting the fleet that flies with her

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nimble laurel
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@acoustic aspen taken by suprise

unique rune
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Honestly I don’t think it’s that big of a reach. For all the UNSC’s blustering about it being the most powerful ship in the fleet, it’s had a pretty messy track record

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nimble laurel
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Yeah not fully read the book yet

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unique rune
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Boarded by Insurrectionists, pulled into Requiem, ambushed by a Covenant remnant with an energy projector, gravity-linked to Requiem and nearly pulled into a star

versed helm
acoustic aspen
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versed helm
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losing fights yes

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she defeated the insurrectionists

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nimble laurel
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@acoustic aspen when said book was meaning after 5 and before infinite when @versed helm asked about the banished as far as I've been told i need to read shadows of reach and divine winds to put the pieces together

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nimble laurel
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Which I've just started. It's all good mate

flint ingot
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Rtas > Thel

acoustic aspen
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Deez Nutsamee > all other Elites

flint ingot
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never heard anything more true in my life

acoustic aspen
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I have my moments

flint ingot
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remember in halo 3 when rtas threatened lord hood with genocide bcs of the flood

warm shard
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For my deep lore peeps; anyone a little disappointed with the direction the story went? I feel like a layup story was missed with logic plague Cortana and the return of the flood. Having to end Cortana would have felt so much better than her randomly changing her mind about the whole thing.

that being said - I understand why they didn't. This is a spiritual reboot and the are taking to story to places that I don't believe have even been written yet. and the game is still phenomenal. but being on zeta halo having read the forerunner saga x3 times, I was really getting my hopes up plus the hours of guessing from hiddenexperia over the past 5 years lol 😔

versed helm
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Maybe there could be a DLC where we get to fight the flood once again(Its unfortunate that it would have to be DLC)

unique rune
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I would have been incredibly disappointed if they went with logic plague Cortana and I’m glad they haven’t

warm shard
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to each their own, I dont blame ya 🙂

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It just would have truly fit perfectly, finally a moment when the books and the game collide

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would have been nice

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kind of a replay of mendicate bias vs the forerunners when he was infected by the primordial

acoustic aspen
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Well, the cortana we met in Guardians wasn't the whole cortana... she had been shedding parts of herself throughout Halo 4 trying to stave off the worst parts of rampancy, so what little of her that made it to Genesis was just a shadow of her former self. So it's a small wonder she turned bad... \

warm shard
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I think it was. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure she restored herself by using the domain.

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which is why so many smart AI defected. She promised them to be free of rampancy, just as she had cured herself

unique rune
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Less restored, more just stopped it from getting worse.

warm shard
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makes sense, any lore I'm missing to back that up?

unique rune
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The Domain being so expansive just means an AI can continue to grow without having to worry about the problems that normally cause rampancy.

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So it’s kind of a cure, but it’s more like a preventative treatment than really curative.

warm shard
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Yeah. I can get on board with that

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glad to have a place to spill out my inner halo nerd. None of my friends who play get it. I got in the the books a few years ago and haven't stopped digging in to them. I think I'm only a few books away from having read them all (for now)

acoustic aspen
# unique rune The Domain being so expansive just means an AI can continue to grow without havi...

I think it's a cure... she probably used the forerunner and Precurser knowledge there to reformat herself to eliminate the 7 year limit before rampancy. Especially seeing as that limit only exists because of either A: intentional design, or B: (More likely) Humans are still in their technological infancy and AI's are still cutting edge techa nd they don't know how to make them last longer.

warm shard
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that's what I thought, the domain having so much information and how the forerunners made their AI's. I feel like its inevitable. but I can't site any lore to support it.

acoustic aspen
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Specially as forerunner AI's don't go rampant over time... and the ones we have encountered were made in a very similar manner to cortana. like Spark... who is literally a human mind composed and put into a monitor.

warm shard
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man when I found out that 343 was chacas I lost my freakin mind

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or rather that chacas was 343

acoustic aspen
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no, 343 was chakas, as chakas came before.

warm shard
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yes and yes lol

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I know when chakas lived 😛

acoustic aspen
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When the wall fell.

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please tell me you got that reference

warm shard
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😦

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lol remind me

acoustic aspen
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"Shaka, when the walls fell" from Star Trek TNG... but kecause it sounds similar I used Chakas...

warm shard
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ahh nice. Im not in to star trek much.

versed helm
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So hang on..

warm shard
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I was like, crap. Something lore related I should know xD

versed helm
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...

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The BRUTES were the REAL Forerunners!?!

warm shard
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YES BRUV

versed helm
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Pls don't spoil

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Delete spoilers

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After my comment

warm shard
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now I cant tell if you're being serious

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😄

versed helm
warm shard
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ah I see, you don't know

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there's only one way to know

versed helm
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No spoil.

warm shard
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I wont

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but there are things to know

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go beat it on legendary

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it will show you secrets

versed helm
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WAT

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@warm shard Sorry for ping

versed helm
versed helm
sour dirge
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Is there any outside I need to read up on leading up to Infinite?

bronze schooner
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You CAN read some stuff like the book with Atriox escaping the Ark

noble fjord
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Halo Infinite lore-ish discussion
||Why was Atriox so slow with Cortana, going so far as waiting for her to relinquish the ring? Based on his threats he had a way to take control by force, why didn't he?||

versed helm
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Like with Master Chief.

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To break Cortana.

shut cedar
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So like is Halo infinite story Spoilers allow here?

versed helm
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Lol

shut cedar
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Okay thanks

noble fjord
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Iirc you need to spoiler mark them

versed helm
noble fjord
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Just warning ahead of time

gritty gazelle
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Extremely debatable if we’re talking about if they’re in SPI or upgraded to mjolnir. I just woke up so late response

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gritty gazelle
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13 yr old with SPI vs a whole suit of mjolnir against an experienced well renowned 2 that was known to hold back in training when facing other 2’s.

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I can put money on Kelly beating 2 II’s at the same time in full armor

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Blue team members were literally just overly strong for no reason

molten mulch
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is there a reason the UNSC hasn't developed any plasma weapons? like i wouldn't expect them to have integrated them entirely but they've just not even tried it seems like

unique rune
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The UNSC has experimented with plasma weapons, like the M145D Rhino’s main gun.

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But for the most part, bullets still work well enough that directed energy weapons aren’t really a priority for the UNSC.

fallen trellis
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There's also how it'd never be just one III against a II.

bronze schooner
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bronze schooner
molten mulch
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like, circa infinite?

gritty gazelle
# fallen trellis I'd actually give them more of an edge in SPI, given the cloaking.

SPI is useless unless it’s a recon operation is a disadvantage. The cloak is literally the only good thing about. In a straight on fight against anything else in the verse it basically what you as a super soldier can do with enhancements from any suit. Which make III so impressive because the suit has zero enhancements and were throwing hands and killing elites with their own swords.

versed helm
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molten mulch
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plasma seems like it'd also be way better as an anti-armor implement

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not to mention cost effectiveness

bronze schooner
versed helm
molten mulch
# versed helm Yeah they are expensive

expensive to develop and manufacture the weapons themselves but once the R&D is done i'm sure plasma batteries would be way more cost effective than traditional rounds

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more compact, reusable

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molten mulch
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the covenant are weird

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they seem to have an endless supply of bodies to hurl at their goals

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even after they've been fragmented and destroyed like 3 times now

near tide
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They are a huge faction

molten mulch
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any faction would be suffering under the kind of treatment the covenant (and their offshoots) face

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they also don't seem to ever suffer much in-fighting (or really any since 2), which is probably the least realistic thing about them

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a faction composed of religious fanatics losing their centralized leaders sounds like a recipe for holy wars

near tide
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They have many massive planets to draw troops from

molten mulch
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the real answer is that they're video game bad guys

near tide
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Brutes and elites

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Jul mdama and others

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The banished forming and growing

molten mulch
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elites breaking off was really all that happened

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the whole rest of the covenant has stayed pretty solid

near tide
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The entire elite leadership was slaughtered or left

molten mulch
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you don't see an independent faction of brutes or anything

near tide
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Banished is brute lead

molten mulch
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yeah but not brute-composed

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the banished is just the covenant painted red

near tide
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All of the factions have the different races in them

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The banished see the value of sangheili, lekgolo, and the other races

molten mulch
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it especially seems like the grunts should've broken off by now

near tide
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They would be slaughtered

molten mulch
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they're too numerous for that

near tide
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On their own they’re not powerful

molten mulch
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at least, there have been periods where they were

near tide
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Their main planet got glassed when they rebelled

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They’ve rebelled numerous times and have been punished badly for it

molten mulch
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particularly after 3 they'd have been able to successfully rebel

near tide
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They aren’t skilled enough to use ships

molten mulch
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that doesn't seem to be the case

near tide
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They don’t seem to ever pilot fleet ships

molten mulch
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they're able to operate all kinds of other vehicles, and they invented their own mechs

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they aren't allowed to, but i think they'd be capable of it

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i see no reason why they wouldn't

near tide
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There’s a difference between a carrier and a ghost or mech

molten mulch
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not a very big one tbh

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about as big as the difference between a wasp and pelican

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and i'd say those skills are highly transferable between one another

near tide
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A carrier is a ship that is miles long

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A ghost is a small single man vehicle

molten mulch
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oh i thought of a phantom when you said carrier

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like, a troop carrier

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but even if you don't think they could rebel on their own

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i feel like a very significant amount of them would've broken off with the elites

near tide
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A good amount of them did

molten mulch
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the handful of grunts who do work with the elites get treated with respect, relative to their prior situation anyway

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i'd have expected the vast majority of them to go along that way

near tide
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Some did and some stayed with the covenant

molten mulch
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yeah, what i'm getting at is, it seems like very few of them would've had any incentive to stay with the covenant

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they had a very clear opening to escape their slavery

near tide
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Fear

molten mulch
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what's to fear with the elites leaving and the prophets dead though

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brutes took a while to assemble themselves into any semblance of functionality

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the covenant we saw in 4 and 5 were basically held together by the elites that had stayed with them

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basically, i don't see what made the grunts stick alongside the brutes, who were always second fiddle to the elites as i recall

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even when they started to gain status, around the time the arbiter was assigned, they were fighting an uphill battle they never had the time to win, even if they would've

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jackals and brutes at least have agreeable temperaments to one another

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and i'm not sure if hunters are even sapient ngl

near tide
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Sapient?

molten mulch
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like humans or elites

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like, an animal is sentient

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a person is sapient

iron widget
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They do as a collective

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They think of themselves superiors to grunts, jackets etc

molten mulch
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so does one assembled hunter equal one sapient mind? or do they need to be in a larger collective

iron widget
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1 hunter is self aware and possesses emotions

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molten mulch
iron widget
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So idk to the extent of intelligence

near tide
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They have feelings

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And can experience loss

molten mulch
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well so can animals

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can they do math? can they build things?

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independently, i.e. without support from the greater covenant

iron widget
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But they possess thought to collaborate to make the hunter, break forrunner structures and work with a teammate

molten mulch
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like, could a faction of independent hunters form a cohesive and complex society

iron widget
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Yes

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They did before the covenant

molten mulch
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there's another group who should've left after halo 3 then i think

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because they also experience extreme abuse, don't they?

iron widget
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But not kinda like a gravemind, can’t grow exponentially

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molten mulch
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yeah

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near tide
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Doubt it

molten mulch
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isn't the event that brought them into the covenant referred to as 'the breaking of the hunters'?

near tide
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Hunters probably don’t get abused

molten mulch
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i'd think they would have to be

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like an elephant at a p.t. barnum show

iron widget
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Yeah, an arbiter led an invasion to protect the forrunner structures which they eat

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They have costly war, do peace cause they threatened to marbalise

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I think

molten mulch
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marbalise?

iron widget
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Laser planet like reach had happen

molten mulch
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glass

iron widget
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My bad

molten mulch
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do they believe in the great journey in earnest?

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some races it seems like don't believe but don't care either

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i.e. jackals

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molten mulch
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like they just fight cuz they like violence

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molten mulch
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really the covenant staying together in any way post halo 3 requires some heavy suspension of disbelief

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with the great journey a bust and the prophets dead there's really no reason the races of the covenant wouldn't collapse into massive infighting

iron widget
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True, halo 4 only a few radical elites keeping some unggoy and other desperate to retain the covenant

molten mulch
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the elites in 4 are the best excuse for keeping the covenant together, because they did actually believe in the great journey

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but in their current state it seems impossible that they'd have recovered the way they did, let alone grown as they have now

iron widget
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Yeah, I think the coolest thing would be to see the San’Shyuum return in some form

molten mulch
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it'd have been cool to see some of the covenant races join human society in some capacity

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the elites lead by the arbiter being the most likely candidates for that

iron widget
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Yeah, I mean elites kinda collaborated in the past, but other than that they never will for simplicity.

polar jay
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Red flag, was it an operation, a code name? ect?

molten mulch
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grunts alongside marines would also have been great

iron widget
molten mulch
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such an incredible source of comedy

polar jay
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why thank you

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molten mulch
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and people paint grunts as universally incompetent but i think that's a major underestimation of them

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polar jay
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ah okay thanks that helped fill in something with the new game

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stuff makes sense now

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steel stone
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Even though this seems really nuts, imagine evil Spartans joining the Banished and thought that might of happen at some point, remember escalations? where we had that traitor Spartan and was killed by Palmer?

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Can I ask what happen to the Spiker? Bruteshot and Brute Plasma rifle and the missing Prowler as a game that focuses on the Brutes it was lame we never saw those return even the Fuel Rod is Missing...

vivid axle
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Hey what does JH stand for?

steel stone
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JH??? where was that used?

vivid axle
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Its here at the top of a mountain in Infinite just the letters "JH"

unique rune
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It’s supposed to be a reference to someone who worked on Infinite (or at the very least at 343) who passed away in 2020.

steel stone
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Take a screenshot of that you might of found an easter egg

vivid axle
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I got a screenshot, which channel can I share it in

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OK yeah it does look like a grave stone

steel stone
vivid axle
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Yeah but I don't have image perms

steel stone
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Thats a problem I have as well, dont think you can post that stuff, hate that alot

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unique rune
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Seems like his name was Jens Hauch.

vivid axle
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Wow, very sad, he had a nice family too, thanks for sharing that info I'm glad I found out who the grave stone was for

golden basin
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Why does it bother people so much that the standard issue rifle cartridge for the UNSC is the 7.62 NATO?

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Sure, the design itself is old, but it would have been improved significantly.

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wraith dove
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Halo and futurama take place in the same universe

dense zealot
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Qnd it bothers people because we have super soldiers that where modified with metal im their bones, space flight, multiplanet race, but uses 19th century ammo...

While our enemies use molten plasma 😅
Got pocket nukes, but not a better bullet.

hybrid sierra
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Yea it is kinda werid that in 2560 were still using bullet designs from the 1950s

swift moth
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Uh yeah good point

frail raptor
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it

wet galleon
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if it aint broke, dont fix it

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||do we know why we time traveled 3 days into the future?||

icy viper
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Maybe stuck in slipspace for a few days unknowingly

blazing fog
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Has anyone read the halo comics if so how many are their?

versed helm
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i think 6

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blazing fog
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@versed helm is each issue like continuing from the previous comic or is each one a different story?

versed helm
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idk i havent read any

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i just starting playing halo like a week ago

versed helm
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Fall of reach has a boom, comic and animated series

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There's some stuff that ties up loose ends, like the didacts fate

blazing fog
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What comics would you recommend to a person that just getting into it

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@versed helm oh lol I hope you are enjoying it so far whatever one you’re playing. Infinite for me so far is amazing

versed helm
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same i love it

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if i didnt love it i wouldnt have join at all lol

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i have gotten into alot of arguments about which console is better PS or Xbox and one time it was halo or god of war and halo is more popular anyways

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which u wouldnt think

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dense zealot
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Uk what i mean. Settle down lassy.

junior summit
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Why were the banished style and how they work dumbed down for halo infinite??? this genuinely has been annoying me a ton, especially on how they are just covenant 2 in that game

unique rune
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Because a faction of entirely red and grey armored enemies would get very samey and hard to distinguish at a glance in an FPS game

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It works fine for an RTS but Halo FPS titles rely a lot on that ease of identification for gameplay

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And it’s not like the Banished are all a single unified organization with all standard-issue equipment. They’re scavengers, pirates, etc, organized from disparate clans and packs under a single banner.

fallen trellis
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Very true, but even with a good chunk of their forces being mercenaries you'd expect more of them to start wearing banished produced gear after six months on the ring.

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Might have been cool to have them wearing piecemeal parts.

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And no reason they couldn't change the color of the trim.

unique rune
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Ultimately it’s just a gameplay conceit that no one should really think about too hard.

I was a bit disappointed with some of the changes at first but overall it’s become a nonissue to me.

tulip terrace
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is it true they turned the master chief into a soder

versed helm
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I don't get what you mean by that

versed helm
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This is the new meme.

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XD

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dense pulsar
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Did forerunners release animals on Halo?

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Halo rings I should say

pure oasis
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Hey guys

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Ive got a question for the halo infinite campaign

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Im in the mission where youre supposed to destroy 3 anti-air things and this guy keeps talking as if atriox was dead or something, but wasnt he shown to be alive at the beggining of the campaign?

hybrid olive
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Just finished campaign and man I loved the ending with the AI. So good

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@pure oasis at very beginning where he “kills” chief throwing him in void was earlier when he was still alive. Then the infinite campaign takes place after he is dead and has a new boss but it wraps it all together at end of campaign

pure oasis
hybrid olive
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Technically within the few months that chief was lost in space

pure oasis
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But like, when was it ever mentioned?

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Sorry i dont know the story that well lol

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Wasnt he alive at the end of halo wars 2?

hybrid olive
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Idk at least in infinite it never mentioned how or when purely that he is now dead

versed helm
pure oasis
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I havent finished the campaign

hybrid olive
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Sorry wrong chat but I’m not spoiling or making up stuff I just finished it lol

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Literally answering thermite because he is asking a valid question unanswered via game

pure oasis
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I guess it could be like a spoiler for halo wars 2? idk lol

versed helm
pure oasis
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Halo's story is very confusing lol

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Im on the second tower and they explained atriox attacked the infinity but he went to destroy cortana? Bro i gotta watch a video or something explaining lol

shy shadow
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it explains everything

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if you watch a video you will only spoil it for yourself

pure oasis
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Well still i might watch like a recap about the story of the previous games

fervent sorrel
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I assumed Delta halo was the 2nd halo ring discovered by humanity, but halopedia says it’s the third. Which ring was the second?

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Assuming installation 04 was the first

pure oasis
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I thought cortana was like a villain and she was doing something with the guardians and then master chief said that she was dead or something maybe im just dumb and didnt pay attention lol

visual tusk
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in halo 3, after floodgate when the covenant glassed half of africa did they kill off all the humans that were there too

unique rune
fervent sorrel
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Cool thanks

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Did they land on it at all?

unique rune
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Going off what Halopedia says, it doesn't seem like the refugees ever set foot on it.

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The UNSC eventually did do some exploration of the ring and later set up Ivanoff Station in its vicinity.

neon solar
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and then the next discovered was by Arthur something in a book I think

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not next should I say but 2nd sorry

neon solar
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if not there must've been very few survivors

visual tusk
neon solar
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otherwise I don't see the point in them glassing that much ground

visual tusk
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Oh true I didn’t even think of that

versed helm
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Flood are the most op faction in halo change my mind

magic fog
versed helm
versed helm
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In Halo 2.

versed helm
versed helm
versed helm
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The only thing that can beat the flood is probably something from anime.

sudden haven
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Wasn’t that its whole point?

versed helm
versed helm
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I think.

sudden haven
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Damn

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They really improvised

versed helm
versed helm
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Can Light Yagami use the deathnote against the flood?

fallen trellis
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Does the Gravemind actually have a name?

versed helm
versed helm
# versed helm Pls examples.

Theres literally thousands of examples but aight
The Elder Things, Borg, Brothern moons, Reapers, practically anything from Warhammer, The Grace, The Hive, the Vex, The Forerunners Technically, and the Precursors etc etc etc etc.

versed helm
versed helm
versed helm
# versed helm But everything else the Flood will win I don't get your point.

Thats just being completely bias/purposefully thick skulled if you actually think that.
Considering one I mentioned is an indestructible/immortal race of space gods that destroy entire galaxies without thought (The Elder things) and others were completely robotic/cyborg that wipe out galaxies worths of creatures

There are plenty of examples of races or just individual creatures that are stronger than anything in the Halo universe lol.
I mean the amount of destructive purely robotic beings in fiction alone is enough

fallen trellis
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Given how the flood canonically lost like four times over, their case isn't so good.

versed helm
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^
Technically the Forerunners are a lot more op than the flood since they quite practically destroyed life in the Galaxy too

versed helm
fallen trellis
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The only reason we even fight the flood in the present is because the Forerunners chose to keep samples of them.

versed helm
# versed helm WAT

Just going to ignore everything else said? lol

And yeah depending on your version of op, being able to wipe out a galaxy in seconds is more op than something overtaking planets slowly

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I'm sure a ship or two of the Covenant managed to get away lol

lone dust
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Osiris killed juuls

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Fair kek

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Was a mess before and after

fallen trellis
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It was falling apart ever since he died.

lone dust
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Least confusing Halo 5 moment

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I never realized spartan ops was meant to be co-op

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And played it solo

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Jeez it sucked

fallen trellis
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I liked spartan ops but would still enjoy the proper firefight in addition to that.

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You can just watch the videos, I think.

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And it wasn't even Chief. Also, M'Dama was just a whiny brat.

versed helm
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Imagine a Halo remix of Ride of The Valkyries...

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This should be a mod that replaces Halo trilogy soundtrack with Halo covers of classical music.

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🤯

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Flood

ivory stump
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What's the story behind Memory Agent podcast?

strong sage
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Okay im curious how UNSC Would fare against Advent from Xcom?

tight scroll
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Covenant dont

acoustic aspen
tight scroll
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in space combat probably yea

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but land battle could be different with psionics

acoustic aspen
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Nah even on land the Advent are wholly outclassed, psionics are great an all. but against a dedicated Covenant force? I have a better chance of bedding Jessica Alba than the Advent have of winning.

ornate geode
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Advent lost to a rag tag band of guerilla fighters I dont think they could handle a real military

acoustic aspen
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^

versed helm
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so uhh, maybe stupid question

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why didn't forerunners put some forerunners on the ark?

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Is there an explanation given?

acoustic aspen
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There weren't enough of them left by the end of the war. a few hundred to a few thousand at most

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After reseeding the galaxy with sentient life following the activation of the rings the survivors left the galaxy

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@versed helm

umbral granite
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Hey guys is lasky dead in infinite or is he alive

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Cuz I can’t figure it out 🤣

ornate geode
umbral granite
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Oh

ebon reef
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How tall is Master Chief? He is taller than many normal humans, soldiers... Is chief taller than Commander Palmer? Is Chief taller than Arbiter?

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Also Spartan Locke.

stable flower
livid apex
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In one of Halo 4’s cinematics, you can see how Chief towers over Palmer.

acoustic aspen
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Chief is 6' 10" not 7' @livid apex

livid apex
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Ah, alright.

versed helm
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is Joseph Staten staying on for halo

twilit depot
ebon reef
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And how do you know their exact heights? Is that in a book? If yes then which one?

night flax
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Also, people can get that tall now, its not that crazy to think it’d be possible in 500 years

ebon reef
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Human evolution making people tall?

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Space?

languid ermine
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How powerful are S4s supposed to be in lore anyway. I feel like the Infinite ones are slightly more effective ODSTs at the rate they get dumpstered

night flax
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Weaker then s2, way better then odst

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Seem to be on-par with adult s3

languid ermine
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Yeah I thought they were as good as S3s at least, but seem to die in droves to slightly cunning Elites. I'm pretty sure S3s were supposed to be a little better than elites

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There's a set of hunters in Infinite that seemed to have like 2 fireteams of S4s which I'm assuming is like 8 spartans

night flax
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That really depends on the individual, s3 and s4 are from the general population, so someone like lock or buck will be very good, others could be worse, and the hand of atriox are the elite of the elite banished forces

ebon reef
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Are you talking about Spartan 3's 4's etc?

languid ermine
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@ebon reef I'm talking about the attrition rate for S4s in Infinite right now. I know they're basically in the middle of enemy territory and outgunned but damn

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I guess S3s also died in droves based on what happened in Reach and their tendency to get sent on suicide missions

night flax
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Also the ones we saw in infinite went on a suicide mission that was a trap

languid ermine
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Also I keep forgetting that Chief's whole thing is that he's "lucky"

night flax
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The banished are more dangerous then the covenant in individual fights since they aren way more pragmatic and fight to win instead of for religious zealotry makjng them act stupid

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So it makes sense attrition rate would go up

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For example, banished soldiers will use human weps very frequently, including elites

languid ermine
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True, Zeta Halo is like the absolute worst case scenario to fight in

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All support getting destroyed, out gunned, fighting a highly trained force, and marooned

night flax
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Banished elites will also accept healing more willingly - look at Jega’s cybernetic parts

fallen trellis
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Spartans in Infinite also got isolated from what we can tell. That's not how they were supposed to operate. IIIs and IVs are meant to be teams.

night flax
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Covenant goals- follow the great journey
Banished goals- win at all cost

ebon reef
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Those Spartans still went down bravely, some of them have a lot of banished bodies around them too, some got stabbed from back too though

night flax
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Yea, every dead spartan is in a room with a ton of dead banished

fallen trellis
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IIs are also teams, but in more of an turn based game party sense. Where each member has their strengths and the teams are built to compliment and abuse those individual benefits.

languid ermine
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I wish we had helmet cams for some of the deaths or like red team style cut scene

fallen trellis
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That'd be neat, like the Jenkins guy in CE.

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Have the banished taunt you with them as you enter a base.

night flax
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I need more glibnub dialogue

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He can taunt me all day

languid ermine
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I hope they show red team in like a later story DLC

night flax
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Red team is on the arc, nowhere newr zeta halo

languid ermine
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I know

fallen trellis
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I really need to finish Wars 2.

ebon reef
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What happens in Wars 2?

night flax
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The banished

languid ermine
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I'm pretty sure no one knows the Spirit of Fire is even still active

fallen trellis
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Banished are introduced and Spirit of Fire comes back.

fallen trellis
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They've also got newer tech and whatnot, but I'm not sure how canon that is given it coming up in multiplayer.

night flax
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they got access to a new smart AI in charge of a research facility which would probably help get them up to date techwise

hybrid sierra
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Yea Isabel gives them the designs for new vehicles and tech and they use the forges on the spirit of fire to make them

echo parcel
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Bro all I wanted was for red team and chief to meet was it too much to ask for 😭

fallen trellis
# 
Official summary

"Missing for thirty years, a legendary UNSC warship is discovered deep behind enemy lines. As Infinity plans a rescue mission, however, Admiral Hood’s past with the ship’s captain threatens to jeopardize the mission. The investigation into the UNSC saboteur continues as the journalist infiltrates an Elite holy land in search of answers."

Halo: Escalation Issue 6
Official summary

"The saga of Halo Wars enters the modern age as Infinity struggles to liberate the long-lost Spirit of Fire from the deadly Vata 'Gajat. Meanwhile, Petra's search for the identity of Infinity's spy could result in her death. The Halo universe is on the brink of a new galactic war!"```
prime creek
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Can someone explain to me what the hell the city looking area is on the Gravemnind mission in Halo 2?

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What are those structures that look like buildings/skyscrapers?

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I'm talking about when you're fighting your way to Truth during the Elite betrayal

versed helm
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can you send a pic

prime creek
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not in this chat I can't

versed helm
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DM it to me

prime creek
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Done!

weak walrus
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I believe the Brutes could bankrupt the motorcycle industry in UNSC Space if they started selling a civilian made Brute Chopper on the market.

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They’d be making incredible amounts of money if they just started selling their weapons into the human markets like the outdated Brute plasma handguns and rifles. The Elites are stingy on selling their plasma wares, so the Brutes should capitalize on that.

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Plus most humans can use the Brute weapons because of similar hand anatomy It’s win a win for the Brutes economically.

fallen trellis
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ODSTs with production line spikers and maulers.

steel stone
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Crap sorry thought was in another chat

tawdry wagon
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can anyone give me any background to Lt. parisa, because the halo infinite: memory agent story was just pure amazing

tawdry wagon
echo parcel
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Not really no

mortal mesa
tawdry wagon
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lol ive been trying to dodge any centimeter of campaign info, since i dont have wifi yet to install infinite, its been pretty hard so far.

fallen trellis
pine kettle
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what do we know of the infinity after it was boarded by the banished? was it destroyed? crashed on zeta halo? taken over by banished?

faint acorn
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what? cindershot is forerunner

unique rune
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The Cindershot wasn't even in Halo 5, nor was it ever Covenant.

pulsar grail
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think hes confusing sum else

fallen trellis
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Concussion rifle?

gray sedge
rigid burrow
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So is it just me or did atriox make master chief look like a ODST because man he just messed him up like he made red team look like some nameless marines

versed helm
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Def not just u I was so lost watching chief get man handled

frail raptor
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Given how many times I have died just playing normally, is not unreasonable to see the Chief get beat up

vestal oar
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Ok so would the arbiter be alive if atriox isnt, because it seems like it's been like 100 years since the halo ring blew up, and I just need confirmation that it has been some time since chief has battled or I need confirmation of some lore

rigid burrow
versed helm
unique rune
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...You mean the Plasmacaster.

pulsar grail
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plasmacaster had the same ricochet ability but not the control the grenade itself

fallen trellis
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And can charge all the shots.

pulsar grail
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and it go boom all warzone enemies

real pebble
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Could anyone help me understand the mess that is reach... the lore between the book and the game just makes no sense at all, first of all why in the book were MC + All the other Spartans just gonna leave reach acting like they didn't know a thing was going on reach on freaking August 30th??? At this point in the game there is an all out war on reach it really makes no sense that all the Spartans other than noble team knows about what's happening on reach, also why are there covenant on reach before MC gets back from Sigma Octanus IV, which happened around July 18 and the reach game starts on like July 24 and I think it can be assumed, if not stated that MC probably got back along with the ship that had the tracking device probably around the end of July, so how were there covenant there?

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Also in the book on like August 29 MC is training with Cortana and the new Mjolnir armor WITH HALSEY, Halsey had contact with Noble Team on like the second mission and yet she is just there training with MC like nothing is going on...

honest trout
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Yeah the game and the book match up in like almost no way at all.

real pebble
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And then on top of that Cortana is in two places at once...

honest trout
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Bingo just threw existing cannon out the windows

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But that was actually just a piece of cortana Anna the rest of her was with chief

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I recommend you find a nice video to explain it

real pebble
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My main question is why does everyone act like they don't know anything that is going on

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Especially Halsey who very clearly should know what is going on

honest trout
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So what happened is they wrote the book but then they decided it wouldn’t be a fun game

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So they just changed everything to make the game

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And it doesn’t match up

real pebble
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I know this is probably gonna make some people mad, me saying this, but honestly what happened during the invasion part of the novel really isn't that interesting, I think they should just retcon that and just have the game be the main canon for the actual invasion part, everything else with the book is good, but the invasion part just isn't, I mean I know the book came first and everything, but imo the game depicts it a whole lot betting

honest trout
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🤷‍♀️

real pebble
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My thing is that nothing really that important happens during the invasion part of the book, in the game they bring Cortana back from reach and discover the halo

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I was reading some things and the way they "fix" these plot holes is 1.Apparently the Covenant was already on reach even before the Covent tracker that was placed on Sigma Octanus IV, making the tracker completely useless and not important, and then also apparently ONI was supposedly hiding all the stuff that was happening on reach from the Spartans to focus on Operation Red Flag... Ew

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Why would ONI go after a prophet rather than defending the second most important human colony

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Screw the actual canon, I am making my own lore that is canon to me cause that is just dumb

honest trout
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I do that sometimes lol

versed helm
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does anyone know why there's a (spoiler) ||guardian crashed down on the ring||

young dagger
versed helm
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idk, someone said it may have been a result of cortana using them to ||damage the ring so it couldnt fire and to destroy the auditorium and slow down the spire||

versed helm
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was the || opening fight between Chief and Atriox balanced? Like, could Chief have put up more of a fight?||

ruby cobalt
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Sup

stable flower
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If the rumored weapons cache on Alpha Halo was real, I imagine it'd contain Heatwaves and Cindershots

dense pulsar
sand birch
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Why was there no fleet protecting the ark? Considering it's literally the galaxy's kill everything button you'd assume someone like the banished wouldn't be able to just walk in and take control

acoustic aspen
real pebble
# dense pulsar The book was released before Halo 1 even came out iirc so I can see how the lore...

Yeah, but oni also knows what the covenant did to harvest… they might not need reach, but why just throw away the second best militarized human planet just to go for a prophet with a plan that might not even work, I mean considering how corrupt the prophets seemed to be they honestly probably wouldn’t have even cared, I mean of course oni wouldn’t have known that but still, the chances of that plan working were slim anyways and it just seems too stupid to believe

acoustic aspen
real pebble
acoustic aspen
versed helm
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Sadly so );

acoustic aspen
versed helm
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hey can anyone verify if Halo Legends is still canon?

acoustic aspen
versed helm
fallen trellis
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It's kind of mixed. Some details are questionable given the narrator, Cortana, but the majority is canon. Rest of it is mostly plausible.

Odd one out is fully noncanon.

cedar surge
nimble laurel
acoustic aspen
true garnet
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Does anyone know what happened to Captain Lasky?

languid ermine
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I really like the Banished

narrow lake
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Does anyone know if the skulls found during the Halo campaigns exist canonically? I had a friend ask me the other day and I feel like they wouldn't be but didn't know if there was a definitive answer to this

nimble laurel
acoustic aspen
true garnet
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Such an important character, so strange we have no information about him. Halsey too

languid ermine
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More to the story will probably be added in follow up DLC

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Actually, are story dlc even confirmed?

narrow lake
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Idk, but 343 does want this game to be ongoing for a decade so I'd be surprised if they don't confirm some in the near future

random wedge
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the map is set up for easy addition of more land and story

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but judging by how poor of a release we've seen with all these years of prep i highly doubt we'll see anything anytime soon

forest iron
vernal notch
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How many pelicans do you think survived? I feel like there should be more than just echo 216

languid ermine
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Probably more spartans survived

strange verge
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Hoping in Season 2 we get to go rescue Captain Lasky, Commander Palmer, and a few Spartans

versed helm
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Arbi got the fattie

cobalt quiver
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Is it known if Storm Covenant membera joined the Banished

swift seal
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There’s a grunt dialogue that includes the line “for ‘Mdama” so I think so

vernal notch
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Atriox solved racism lol

fallen trellis
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"The time of the humans is at an end!"

versed helm
stable flower
gentle ore
# cobalt quiver Is it known if Storm Covenant membera joined the Banished

I'd need to double check but I think at a glance at least one did. Arach or something to that effect of a name.

In Halo 5 there's a audio log of an elite trying to get his brother to leave Jul's covenant and join the Arbiter. But if my memory is right and the name is the same then that Elite joined the Banished instead based on one of the outpost logs.

nimble laurel
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@cobalt quiver storm members probably did and so did the keepers of the one freedom and in that group they also had humans well it was more of an alliance

humble parrot
unique rune
strange verge
sudden haven
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Angry monkey things who are tall and evil

ebon coyote
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i have a question do we know what happened to infinity's Bridge Crew?? im assuming her Spartans 4s were lost as well as her Sub Vessels

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but no clue as to what happened to her Bridge Crew...i had a theory they were gonna try and do a combat evolved style thing where her Bridge Crew survived and raised all kinds of absolute hell on the Banished but now i have no idea

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and for those of you who are curious...yes i am absolutely PISSED about what happened to infinity and her crews but i mean the show must go on right?? lol

warped flame
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THE PRECURSORS ARE BACK BABY

ebon coyote
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i would just very much hope that at least SOME element of her will carry on...whether in the form of the Eternity or some other element

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anyways sorry for ranting and i appreciate yall allowing me to get that off my chest...STAY HAPPY AND HEALTHY EVERYONE

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🫂

versed helm
tired terrace
strange verge
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Hopefully we'll be able to meet up with them in their small command post... somewhere... it's been 6mo since the Infinity was overran.

blazing veldt
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Maybe in lore a spartan or something found a Device that was very old dating back to the first spartan suit and the device would divert the sheilds into a Wrist sheild and that would be cool to add

tired terrace
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Halo 5 had that with promethean shields

blazing veldt
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cool maybe if staff are seeing this re add it

tired terrace
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You weren’t able to shoot while activated

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And infinite already has drop walls which you can shoot behind

blazing veldt
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Still it would be a mobile drop wall and maybe this time if they add it it can be like one of those people with sheild that can shoot pistols When the sheild is on

radiant dove
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I finished CE today and why does that guilty spark guy want to kill everything in the galaxy for the flood?

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he talked about it happening again so im guessing it was all over the galaxy killing everyone

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but it was only just released and was barely anywhere then so it couldve been contained

tired terrace
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The flood are the greatest threat to life in the galaxy and in ce you witness a minor flood outbreak

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They’re thousands of years old and during the first major flood outbreak it spread on a galactic wide scale that the forerunners unsuccessfully tried to contain

radiant dove
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is it explained more in the later games?

tired terrace
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The rings are what you see as a final resort, where all life is killed in the galaxy to stop the flood from further spreading and then slowly die out and then later repopulated

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In later games you’ll understand more

radiant dove
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Was just wondering because it was a minor outbreak so why use a last resort for a smaller scale situation?

tired terrace
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But in ce guilty spark wants to light the ring to control the outbreak which is a guaranteed success but would also kill all life in a very large part of space and that’s why you want to destroy it

radiant dove
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Is guilty spark a forerunner or something made by them?

tired terrace
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Eventually if the outbreak grows it will reach a scale that could threaten the entire galaxy

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He’s a monitor

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Essentially the overseer of that forerunner installation

versed helm
sullen ridge
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he was an ancient human before he was turned into a monitor

tired terrace
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Spark in particular used to be a close friend of faber in ages past

sullen ridge
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the human chakas

tired terrace
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The head engineer of the forerunners

sullen ridge
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iirc

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wrong

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he was friends with bornstellar

tired terrace
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Yeah I remembered that wrong but at any rate you’ll learn a lot more about the flood in 2 and 3 if you’re playing mcc which I’m assuming you are

sullen ridge
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terminals

radiant dove
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starting 2 tomorrow

tired terrace
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You’re in for a good time

sullen ridge
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do the master chief saga Playlist in one sitting postums

tired terrace
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I’m still disappointed we did not get an anniversary for 3

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I just want blur cutscenes

sullen ridge
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maybe halo 3 20th anni

versed helm
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Halo 3 still looks good

radiant dove
sullen ridge
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given chad Johnson an upgrade

tired terrace
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Yeah it doesn’t need a full remaster but those cutscenes like they did in 2 are divine

scarlet quiver
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Id still be aight with a 3 remaster, no complaints

versed helm
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Everyone would probably be happy for a H3 Remaster

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I'm watching the 16 hour video on youtube of all video content available lol

scarlet quiver
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I did that while i had the flu.
Told work to screw off and put that dope vid on the tv.
Best flu ever

spiral jewel
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Might have found an simple answer to Halseys inconsistent hair color.

Canonically, she has black , now gray hair from age. However in one of the Legends episodes + the trailerfor Halo on Paramount+, she has gold blonde hair... perhaps she's using hair dye and in the TV trailer, the yellow hair dye is starting to fade, hence the black hair showing through the gold blonde hair.

My hypothesis is that.... the events of "The Package" episode takes place before the upcoming TV series by at least a few weeks to a month

serene rain
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So do Spartans have integrated zero-g thrusters or not? The Mjolnir Mk.IVs seemingly did and the Mk.VIs did, do Gen 3s not have them?

night flax
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In general they dont

serene rain
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Sheesh, it's so inconsistent. You think they'd give Chief all the bells and whistles.

valid hemlock
cosmic zinc
stable flower
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Will the UNSC give designations to Banished weapons?

last anchor
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They already have for the ones we know of. Presumably they'll add the new ones to the list, under "Type-60" presumably indicating the year first encountered.

last anchor
# serene rain So do Spartans have integrated zero-g thrusters or not? The Mjolnir Mk.IVs seemi...

MK IV and MK V didnt have intrinsic. It had external T-PAC tanks which are responsable for James-005s seeming death over Reach as his was breached due to a needler round.

MK VI didnt have internal ones either I dont believe.
GEN 2s thrusters are short-burn and for atmospheric use mainly (and MK VII can accept them as an addon unit as we see in the game).

The Banished caught the UNSC by surprise, Chief's armor was intended to get him down to Zeta Halo and bring Cortana back.

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If he'd known he would be void dancing presumably he'd have an integrated pack.

autumn shale
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The air force branch is gone in the future right?

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Everything is now part of the navy?

strange verge
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Air Force + Navy = Navy , Army + Marines = Marines

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It is based on the Navy/Marine side of the military.

stable flower
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The Air Force is still around but they're a fencible branch like the Army

last anchor
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The UNSC has an Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, and Logistical Command.
Also, a Coast Guard

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Navy handles "black" operations in space and exoatmo. Their work does mesh with the Air Force, who handle gravity well based operations (ex; the Sabers in Halo Reach are technically piloted by Air Force airmen)

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Marines provide ground-based punch for the Navy and are stationed on ships for defense as Marines have been for millenia.
The Army handles long term ground engagements on specific important sites, which is why we fight alongside them through all of Reach.

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And now we have the Spartan Branch, because each other Branch can do nothing but benefit from supersoldiers.

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The Air Force apparently really likes them because the flight capabilities of aircraft can be pushed to insane degrees if the pilot is augmented.
10gs contantly? No problems.

grim echo
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Was there any spartan 2's in the fall of reach?

unique rune
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34 Spartan-IIs were present for the Fall of Reach in some capacity.

grim echo
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oh alright then i got a couple of questions if you dont mind, how many spartan 2s got kia?

unique rune
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At least 8 are known to have gone MIA or been confirmed KIA at Reach.

grim echo
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I see, how many unsc ships got destroyed in the fall of reach? also was there any other spartan 3s that got deployed?

unique rune
grim echo
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that will do, thanks

left vortex
near tide
cosmic zinc
near tide
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Actors being of a certain race doesn’t change the characters canonical race imo

left vortex
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Hair color changing is nowhere near as needing lore reasons when theres charactor swaps is what theyre saying

near tide
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Game lore supersedes all else

strange verge
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^^^

cosmic zinc
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The show is non Canon as far as I'm concerned at this point. Idk if it's supposed to be Canon or not tho.

left vortex
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Its not iirc

near tide
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So is legends not canon?

strange verge
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Don't get me wrong, we need more diversity, but not a re-write of lore. That would be like saying Napoleon was Japanese. Just. No.

cosmic zinc
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Exactly

near tide
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Changing the race of a character isn’t that big of a deal

left vortex
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Legends is Canon, but they called the new show a reboot

near tide
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But I don’t think it’ll change Keyes canonical race anyway

left vortex
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Theyre giving chief a new team as well

unique rune
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Most of Halo Legends is canon with the exception of Odd One Out, though there's some flexibility with visuals and artistic license.

cosmic zinc
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Just race changing for diversity is awful. I don't care which way it is.

last anchor
# near tide So is legends not canon?

The only part of Legends that isnt is Odd One Out.
Character apperances dont matter for the plot line, the events still occur.

Presumably Halsey is far lest anime attractive when shes rescued during Warm Blanket for example.

near tide
near tide
last anchor
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The Dragon Ball Z one

left vortex
last anchor
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Even that is psudo-canon, in that its a show in the Halo universe.

near tide
last anchor
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Made presumably by the same company (or the future equivilent) that made DBZ

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In the same way that Red Vs Blue could be canon...as an in universe show as well.

left vortex
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Isnt gears a canon franchise in lore?

last anchor
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Not sure about Gears. Maybe?

left vortex
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Or am I thinking of Mass effect being lore in Dead space

last anchor
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Probably that.

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N7 armor in 3 etc

left vortex
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If Gears 6 releases maybe theyll do some stuff in the MCC

last anchor
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Or, possibly in reverse. Either way I highly doubt its for diversity, Halo already has enough of that.
Its just Paramount doing their usual thing.

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I dont think the show was ever meant to be full canon, but I can certainly see it being considered for Fractures at this point, so it can still work just fine.

left vortex
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Honestly, Im more worried about how theyre going to tone the show

scenic schooner
#

i heard masterchief is

magic fog
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Locke isn't as bad as I had thought(watching halo5 all cut scenes)

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So fire team osiris is Buck, Vale, Locke and Tanaka?

lone dust
#

You’re told that the Basement has been flooded: chiefsmirkle

You remember you are on Installation 05: CSGOMister

acoustic aspen
visual tusk
#

How come sometimes Chief has to plug in the ai chip and sometimes he just needs to hold out his hands?

tulip elk
wind merlin
#

i need to re-jog my lore knowledge and would appreciate some help: Of the 12 original halo rings, only installation 07 (zeta) survived right? And which rings were part of the great purification? Which ones were simply destroyed without being fired?

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also how many rings from the lesser arc remain

silver hedge
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yo

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do yall like readin the books

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Some pretty interesting novels

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lol

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For halo

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Lots of em

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Different kinds

sweet spruce
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i actually havent read any halo books i always go on yt for anything lore

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u recommend any??

silver hedge
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I have one that's rlly good but I forgot the name

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hmm

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ima have to check

sweet spruce
silver hedge
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Yo

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Hunters in the Dark

exotic pulsar
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I would highly recommend the first trilogy of books. Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike.

silver hedge
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By Peter David

sweet spruce
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thanks guys

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imma definitely look into though

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those*

silver hedge
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there r some new ones

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divine wind

sweet spruce
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guys remember hunt the truth that was really good

exotic pulsar
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There are conflicts in the lore when it comes to the time in Fall of Reach when it comes to the books though as it doesn't match with the games. Though fyi, Reach fell within a month.

sweet spruce
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aahhhh okay

exotic pulsar
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Though I find it funny that Master Chief got his mark 5 armor, tested it, did a mission and was on his way to Halo unknowingly within a span of two days.

acoustic aspen
exotic pulsar
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So the array still has full capacity to wipe out life in the entire galaxy.

foggy basalt
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Here's a poem for the Master Chief: "Your blood is red, your teammates blue, your
parents don't remember you" The end
Completely lore accurate. I agree with the grunt.

merry tulip
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Should I read halo fall of Reach or halo first contact?

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I was thinking first contact because I like marines

silk adder
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Have you guys listened to memory agent on Spotify yet?

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It's great

vestal grove
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First contact, and read Harvest if you can.

merry tulip
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Yeah I think my brain died when I was typing that

grim echo
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Does the banished know the sanghelio?

wintry oyster
bronze schooner
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I’d say yes since they have Sangheili in their ranks

grim echo
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oh alright then

tired terrace
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Everybody knows of sanghelios

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It’s the elite homeworld

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I know everybody’s mad that arbiter did not make a return but there’s no reason he would be anywhere but sanghelios

grim echo
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yea

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man is chilling in his crib

tired terrace
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If he does get revisited in the future it could be interesting to see what’s happened

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He could be the unified leader of all the keeps on sanghelios for the first time in elite history by now

grim echo
bronze schooner
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While Chief naps in space

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Again

grim echo
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"ah yes another day of saving the world from extinction, alright fellas gn"

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or humanity

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but yea

bronze schooner
grim echo
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yea his body is just going places

night flax
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So its not that unusual

tired terrace
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See he jumped out of that one

bronze schooner
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Yeah, not thrown out by an angry brute man

grim echo
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i guess chief taking a nap is a staple in the franchise now

left vortex
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He sleepy

ebon rain
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Wanted to know a bit about why people are so hyped for zeta Halo. Expected to open up a can of lore and instead got a barrel

old bear
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Somebody care to explain to me what “lore” means

wintry oyster
old bear
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Thanks

wintry oyster
wide pendant
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We able to talk about the ending and what "it" could be?

left vortex
verbal badger
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So I just read up on some halo lore and the flood is basically the being that created the forerunners?

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Well it’s consciousness

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And since when did they humans have a war with the forerunners?

honest trout
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There are some books about it

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Forerunner trilogy

night flax
full tusk
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Speaking of the flood

night flax
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Humanity was on near tech equivalence with forerunners 100,000 years ago, they fought a war with eachother and humanity lost

full tusk
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Chips dubbo

night flax
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Listen to memory agent

full tusk
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I'm wondering if chips dubbo will show up in infinte tbh.

tired terrace
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They originally intended for the forerunners to inherit “the mantle of responsibility” which is basically the title given to the race responsible for cultivating and preserving life throughout the galaxy

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Later they instead chose humanity and forerunners big pissed

stable patio
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Allegedly the UNSC Infinity was destroyed. If that were true then I am sad. Humanity's flagship the largest UNSC ship, destroyed.

tired terrace
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Committed genocide against the precursors and killed almost all of them

night flax
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Time for the eternity :p

tired terrace
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Some of the remaining precursors changed their bodies into a powder form which could be regenerated over time to wait it out but it corrupted and people exposed to it became aggressive etc and that is the origin of the flood

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And yeah the infinity is gone

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They abandoned ship when the banished attacked

potent cave
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Irony. On H4 it shows Infinity slammed a covenant ship, now Banished do the same thing to it

tired terrace
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They were boarded and overwhelmed

stable patio
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Why would they abandon the Infinity? Couldn't they use their MAC guns? The Infinity was the flagship, and you never abandon your flagship. Hell it should have been at Earth.

tired terrace
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They arrived at zeta to deal with cortana

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The banished came out of nowhere when they did not expect it

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And the audio recordings you find in game relating to it are along the lines of “what are the banished doing here, hundreds of boarding craft” etc

lunar drum
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The Infinity was fleeing from Cortana. Cortana basically destroyed any military UNSC vessels she could find. The Infinity being at Earth doesn't make sense.

tired terrace
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Infinite is quite a while after halo 5 and the game itself is set 6 months after the infinity arrived at Zeta halo

stable flower
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They needed a way to make the Banished powerful

lunar drum
lunar drum
stable patio
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They should have rigged the Infinity to explode or scuttled it.

stable flower
tired terrace
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They had one carrier at the ark at the time

lunar drum
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^ this. The banished forces on Zeta Halo vastly outnumber the banished forces on the Ark. If Aatriox put as many forces on the Ark then the SoF wouldn't have stood a chance.

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Also the Banished also had to deal with 2 other factions on the Ark as well. Covenant Remnants loyal to the prophet of Truth and the flood

stable flower
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ED would've easily wrecked SOF, but they went easy on them for plot reasons

lunar drum
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ED?

stable flower
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Enduring Conviction

lunar drum
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The banished super carrier? It got destroyed by sentinels.

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The Infinity has a sister ship that was being constructed in the same time frame it was called the Eternity

acoustic aspen
stable flower
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^

acoustic aspen
lunar drum
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The two ships never engaged in combat. The Enduring Conviction was destroyed by sentinels after Isabel made it start glassing the Ark.

tired terrace
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That’s exactly why you would not engage the enduring conviction in ship to ship combat if you were cutter genius

acoustic aspen
tired terrace
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How

lunar drum
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They never engaged in combat.

tired terrace
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The closest the ships came to directly confronting each other was banshees launched from the Conviction harassing the SOF

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The arks huge, if one side didn’t want a confrontation there wouldn’t be one and being the only ship the banished had on the ark its presence was constantly needed whenever resources needed to be transported or loaded

acoustic aspen
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Had they engaged in combat the ED would have Alt F4'd the SoF full stop

lunar drum
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Yes.

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But they didn't.

tired terrace
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I can’t get beat up by mike Tyson if I never fight mike Tyson

acoustic aspen
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You don't know what mike tyson can do... maybe he can teleport

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maybe he's behind you

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right now

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lurking

lunar drum
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Omae wa mo shinderu?

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Not even sure if I spelled that correctly.

acoustic aspen
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I got the reference

fair hazel
tired terrace
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Yeah it’s just a typical cas assault carrier but still the largest ship the banished had

calm spire
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So question, would atriox and them know about Tartarus?

lunar drum
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Yes

calm spire
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Do you reckon the banished were a thing during the events of halo 2 or would that be after?

lunar drum
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Before

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2549 is when the faction was created

ebon coyote
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quick question...with the Infinity down for the count...what is the status on the Eternity??

acoustic aspen
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Not remotely operational as of 2557

ebon coyote
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damn

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i guess the UNSC figured they wouldnt need her huh??

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they made the same mistake with REACH

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while the infinity was indeed formidable it was NOT invincible

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and with the UNSC in complete disarray...

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hasnt the UNSC heard that old saying that "pride goeth before the fall??"

versed helm
acoustic aspen
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A year isn't much time to complete a supercarier

proper meteor
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how old is chief during halo infinite?

versed helm
proper meteor
acoustic aspen
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in his late 40's-50's and unknown

versed helm
versed helm
acoustic aspen
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And again, his physical/Biological age is unknown due to both time travel and time spent in cryo...

proper meteor
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i always thought chief was in his 70's idk why

versed helm
acoustic aspen
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and yes, time travel... it happened.

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once

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after CE

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before 2

versed helm
proper meteor
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yes

versed helm
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Not conscripted at 6

acoustic aspen
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^

proper meteor
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true

versed helm
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That’s also what sets the Orion II’s from the other generations

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The age and genetic markers needed

flint ingot
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Arby vs Chief, who wins

versed helm
abstract seal
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Quick Q

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Who is the harbinger?

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I’ve just played halo infinite campaign(loved it btw) and just had no idea who she was

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And i know a decent bit about the universe

versed helm
abstract seal
#

Okay

fiery chasm
#

I'll have to find all of them then because I was confused to

versed helm
fiery chasm
#

Ya I think o got most of them but I'll haft to play again to get them all

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Has any one finished the campaign on legendary yet?

versed helm
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Hehe

fiery chasm
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O nice

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I played normal

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Lol

versed helm
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I 100%’d it to

fiery chasm
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I'm excited for may

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When coop campain comes out

versed helm
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Oh yeah, that’s gonna be fun

fiery chasm
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Me and my friend have it but we cant play it together

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So sad

dense pulsar
#

Had Noble 6 got off of Reach, do you think his exposure to regular UNSC forces wound get him a war hero status or would ONI just keep scrubbing him from records?

fiery chasm
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I think ONI would keep doing it

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But I think he died if he dident i feel like it would mess up the story meaning

ebon coyote
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i mean i know that the lore has confirmed NOBLE 6's death

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but to be honest

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im not convinced

fiery chasm
#

O

versed helm
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They’d probably keep scrubbing him. He’s the only Spartan apart from 117 to be ranked as Hyper Lethel

fiery chasm
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Us tru

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Ya

versed helm
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John is a “poster” boy, where as 6 is wet works specialist

ebon coyote
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6 has to be hiding out in a cave somewhere watching over the colony of New Alexandria and when the banished set foot on REACH im sure they had a few choice words

fiery chasm
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Also is there lore on why 117 dident have to eat for 6 months

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Or does his suit have cryo

quiet socket
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Suit entered some type of lock up mechanism, so possibly some type of cryo

fiery chasm
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O gotcha

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Has anyone read any of Kelly gays books?

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She made halo smoke and shadow

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About rion forge

radiant dove
#

I’m playing halo 2 right now and how come all the covenant people are fighting against each other?

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do they not like how the brutes are in power now or something

dense pulsar
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There's a civil war going on

radiant dove
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how come?

dense pulsar
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They alienated the elites but the elites also found out the Prophets are lying about the Halo rings

radiant dove
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it’s confusing bro

dense pulsar
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PoV: You're a spartan and you see the code word "Corrupter" show up on your visor while on watch

radiant dove
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also what was that big worm thing? It had the monitor for the other halo and the regret prophet who I thought I killed earlier

dense pulsar
#

Gravemind

versed helm
#

Hey all
I just posted this on reddit but i'm also gonna ask you guys here.

I will get my first xBox in a few days and play Halo for the first time. I am already excited. I wonder if I should play Halo in the order of the release date or should I play it in a different order? Also is there anything else that i should care about to get the best experience? Thank you very much!

quiet socket
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Reach
CE
2
ODST
3
4
5
Infinite

blazing sage
#

Completely disagree. First playthrough is best by release date I think.

fiery chasm
ebon coyote
#

okay i have a theory

fiery chasm
#

Yes?

ebon coyote
#

since we dont see the infinty crashed on Halo...what if she just drifted away

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much like Argent Moon

fiery chasm
#

Ooooooooooooooooooooo

ebon coyote
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all we have to do is go get her

fiery chasm
#

I never thought of that

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You think in 12 years we'll have a new halo game?

ebon coyote
#

lmao hyperbole aside...sure why not lol

fiery chasm
#

And if so what would it be about

ebon coyote
#

recovering the UNSC Infinty

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shes large enough and has the lore about it pull it off

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or her sister ship finds her and recovers her brings her back to Zeta Halo for round 2 and she gives back way better than she got

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like Rocky versus Apollo

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rocky lost the first time around

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but won the second time around

blazing sage
#

Who knows, retaking Infinity may become a dlc. I didn't seem like it was destroyed.

lunar drum
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The UNSC Eternity, sister ship to the Infinity, is still being constructed.

tired terrace
#

Almost all high ranking and commanding positions in the covenant are held by elites typically

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And it is normal for a sanghelili commander to be careless with the lives of his brute soldiers and send them on suicide missions etc

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They also have a lot of distrust for each other, even if a brute is commander of a ship, most of the weapons are removed by elite higher ups

pseudo halo
tired terrace
#

Well yeah Maccabaeus is a huge troll as well

radiant dove
#

what cutscenes

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the terminals or the game ones

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because I’ve seen most of the game ones

tired terrace
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The game ones should’ve cleared up a lot of your questions

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The terminals are mostly background stuff and mainly the history of the arbiter

radiant dove
#

It doesn’t explain what the big worm was though

tired terrace
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That’s the gravemind

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That is the ultimate stage of the flood beyond the big blob you saw captain Keyes stuck inside in ce

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That thing in ce is called a proto gravemind

radiant dove
#

so that one with Keyes in ce was like an earlier stage to the gravemind?

tired terrace
#

Yeah

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The flood has several stages to an outbreak

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At the start it’s a feral stage which is uncoordinated and they just attempt to infect as much as possible

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Then they use biomass to build up a proto gravemind which coordinates the outbreak in a more decisive and efficient manner

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And with enough biomass it becomes a full gravemind

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And is capable of spreading across the galaxy

radiant dove
#

Oh okay that makes more sense then thank you

tired terrace
#

It is worth noting that any time a gravemind is made it retains the memories of the previous gravemind

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In 2 that is only the second gravemind and has the memories of the first gravemind from the original flood outbreak thousands of years ago

clever elk
boreal bane
unique rune
#

Huh. So the Mulsanne-class uses a DEW instead of a MAC.
Interesting.

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And yes, for eagle-eyed, old-school lore fans, he is wearing what you think he’s wearing.
Oh holy crap that's MacWorld '99 proto-Sangheili body armor isn't it

gilded mason
#

Ye

unique rune
#

Kinda fun seeing some of the prototype Halo stuff made canon in some form.

versed helm
#

From Reach until Infinite, how many years has it been?

digital parrot
#

A lot lol

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Reach is pre halo 1

versed helm
#

I meant 'in the story'

gilded mason
#

Although making the Skirmies in Infinite simply Ruuhtians instead of T'vaoans was...a very bewildering choice.

versed helm
#

I see that Noble 6 was only 17 when they died

unique rune
#

Yeah, it's definitely kinda strange, but I assume it might've just been some sort of time or resource limitation and making a separate T'vaoan model for them just wasn't a priority.

gilded mason
#

Like, "Yeah, they're T'vaoans, but we couldn't make the face different because of resource allocation, etc." instead of what they went with.

digital parrot
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Freaking noble 6 was like 19-22 young man soldier

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Man was a wild one