lore-and-universe

[humble yacht]

The cycle continues

[limber dagger]

Lol I used to refuse to eat eggs so my mom would just hide it in my food. Now I love eggs. Kids are just picky and weird.

[blazing sage]

I bet Chief loved broccoli.

[gaunt tiger]

but i think it would be nice if cortana intentionally sacrifices her in a battle so all species would be in peace

but that wont happen

because some nasty things happened

[humble yacht]

That wouldn’t make people be at peace

They weren’t at peace before Cortana, lol

Why be at peace after

[blazing sage]

truth

[gaunt tiger]

yeah

i meant it in relation with that one

[blazing sage]

Do we know how many AIs did't join her?

[gaunt tiger]

BB and roland?

[limber dagger]

The only way for the entire galaxy to be at peace is an enforced peace. There will always be war and conflict.

[humble yacht]

No

[sullen ridge]

but enforced peace still makes for guerilla groups and such who don't like the peace forced upon them

[humble yacht]

Even enforced peace leaves room for rebellion

[sullen ridge]

so there is bound to be conflict

[gaunt tiger]

true, was just a thought

[sullen ridge]

only ones who will accept it are the unggoy

[humble yacht]

The only way for there to be true peace is for there to be nothing

[gaunt tiger]

or bring them all back to stone age

[sullen ridge]

the flood can bring true peace

[sullen ridge]

still conflict

[humble yacht]

Bruh, cavemen fought

Stone Age doesn’t mean no conflict

[gaunt tiger]

yeah but like mind wipe them or smt

[sullen ridge]

literally ever since humans started to exist it was just conflict

[limber dagger]

lol the irony is that peace would be enforced through threat of death.

[sullen ridge]

enforced peace isn't true peace

[humble yacht]

Death is a form of peace

[sullen ridge]

[gaunt tiger]

or have it like when the precursors were

[sullen ridge]

consume

even the precursors weren't safe

[gaunt tiger]

big alliance

[sullen ridge]

and look what happened to them

[gaunt tiger]

yeah

[sullen ridge]

just let the flood out

embrace infection

[gaunt tiger]

the flood is eternal peace

[sullen ridge]

well half half

but no internal conflicts

[humble yacht]

The flood is not peace

[limber dagger]

evne the precursors did not believe that peace is necessary. they believed that war and suffering were just as natural as peace and love.

[blazing sage]

The Flood is the real good guys.

[humble yacht]

The minds within the gravemind are in eternal pain and torment

[sullen ridge]

true

but then again no more conflict when there is only one single species

[gaunt tiger]

no thats human propaganda

[sullen ridge]

that is a hivemind

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[gaunt tiger]

ah ok

humans could just kill all non humans

[sullen ridge]

humans would still fight humans

[gaunt tiger]

then kill fighting humans

[humble yacht]

Then there is nothing

Like I said

True peace requires there to be absolutely nothing

[sullen ridge]

Thanos snap everything out of existence

[humble yacht]

Hell, even chemical reactions aren’t at peace

[gaunt tiger]

thats not the peace we mean

[cobalt frigate]

fire the rings and you'll have true peace until some fish learns to walk on land again

[sullen ridge]

fish classified as sentient?

if so then it would take millions of years before that happened

[gaunt tiger]

just make a big world order with propaganda and plant chip in the neck of everyone and when they are rebelling just boom, like nowdays kappa

[humble yacht]

Didn’t work on suicide squad

They have bomb chips and still cause trouble

[gaunt tiger]

yeah with nowdays tech it wont work but like in a few thousand years

[hard trellis]

guys in wich order should i play the halo games

[humble yacht]

Release

[gaunt tiger]

in my opinion: reach 1 2 odst 3 4 5 infinite

didnt play halo wars so idk

[hard trellis]

ok thx

[humble yacht]

Don’t play odst before 3

Do release order

[gaunt tiger]

but odst plays in between 2 and 3

and reach plays before 1

[humble yacht]

Odst has references that only make sense when you play 3

[burnt pulsar]

Also can’t forget about HW

[gaunt tiger]

ok

[cobalt frigate]

i think chronological order is better on repeat playthroughs

release is better on first

[humble yacht]

Sure

That’s fair

[gaunt tiger]

yeah

[gaunt tiger]

or just put everyone in a simulation and use them as batterys like matrix or futuramas retirement home

[humble yacht]

That is also imperfect

[gaunt tiger]

why

[humble yacht]

People still resist

[limber dagger]

If you were to break release order at all, Playing Reach first would be the only reasonable one to deviate with. But even then, there is quite a bunch of lore in Reach that might not make sense if you haven't played the games in their release order.

[gaunt tiger]

but when you make them practically unable to do that

like blacklisting bad thoughts

[cobalt frigate]

they think they resist, the robots are just letting them do it so they believe they're in control

[gaunt tiger]

yeah

or just dont let them do so

[limber dagger]

Oh nice, another sneak peak for the Halo show is going to premier at the game awards.

[humble yacht]

At that point they’re just a waste of resources

[gaunt tiger]

but theres inner peace

and a big battery of humans and other species

[cobalt frigate]

don't like how the halo show is just master chief and cortana again, totally haven't seen that for 2 decades

[gaunt tiger]

dont let them reproduce too much

[gaunt tiger]

yeah somethin like reach or odst would be nice

[limber dagger]

Have you seen some sort of leak about it? Ive heard that there will be much more than just chief and cortana.

[burnt pulsar]

There’s already a movie with ODST’s in it

And no Chief

[blazing sage]

How many Graveminds are there?

[limber dagger]

1

[cobalt frigate]

yeah apparently its an alternate timeline kinda deal and also non canon

[limber dagger]

technically at least.

[blazing sage]

But there are seperate creatures called that right or ?

[gaunt tiger]

there were some proto graveminds like keys

[cobalt frigate]

so if the flood's whole thing is just to eat everything in the galaxy, wouldn't they just starve to death eventually anyway?

granted it'll take thousands of years to reach that stage

[limber dagger]

the gravemind might also manifest in multiple places, but there is still only 1 actual gravemind. it's a little difficult to talk about since the gravemind is a compound intelligence. it is many beings and one being at the same time.

[gaunt tiger]

i think they need more meat to get more mass but not to exist or am I wrong?

[limber dagger]

re-type that

[gaunt tiger]

?

[limber dagger]

wait nvm i get it my bad

[gaunt tiger]

k

[tacit charm]

i mean if they're smart enough they can go to other universes which is what the forerunners did back in their hay day

[limber dagger]

yes, they need more bio matter to have a physical presence, but at a certain point the gravemind basically infects space itself and exists on a higher plane of existance. to be honest its a little difficult to explain.

[cobalt frigate]

universe or galaxy?

[tacit charm]

me?

[cobalt frigate]

yeah

[tacit charm]

universe

forerunners have already visited other universes

and dimensions

[cobalt frigate]

did not know that

[tacit charm]

ye

alot of people dont

[trail surge]

dont forget back when the forerunners fought the flood they had major loss

[gaunt tiger]

does the flood need more food to "live" or can it just exist with that what it already has?

[trail surge]

so at the time the flood had knowledge of other live beings

@gaunt tiger the flood can live thousands of years without feasting but to go to other planets for more intel and mass they need to keep feasting

[limber dagger]

When you say other universes, what exactly do you mean. Because I dont remember anything about them exploring other universes entirely, just that they have discovered more alternate planes of existence than just slipspace.

[tacit charm]

other universes

[gaunt tiger]

k

[tacit charm]

[trail surge]

thats why in halo 2 the gravemind went to high charity

[tacit charm]

its just that

[trail surge]

cuz it was filled with beings

enough for him to last few thousand years to live and a way to go to other worlds

[tacit charm]

no ambiguous wording or anything it just says to visited other realties and dimensions, even outside of this their is a multiverse of some kind in halo as was confirmed by multiversal residue McGuffin for precursor ftl

[blazing sage]

So, really, you have to wipe out every bit of the Flood or it'll just get back bigger and stronger all over again.

[tacit charm]

easy to wipe out all the flood? grey goo those sons of biches

[cobalt frigate]

do the games not take place in just a small part of the galaxy? if humanity ever stops fighting threats at their doorstep it's be cool to see a game where they explore a completely new part of the galaxy with new alien enemies while having the old ones as your allies

[scarlet hinge]

yes

[tacit charm]

no, it takes place in the galaxy

[limber dagger]

I know about the multiverse, as that is the energy that Forerunners used to power their society and technology, but I don't remember anything about then physically visiting other universes.

[gaunt tiger]

yeah

[scarlet hinge]

the Covenant only ever controlled a part of the Orion arm at their height

[cobalt frigate]

the entirety of it? i thought it was just the orion sector

[tacit charm]

its just forerunners in the past have just visited other realities

[gilded mason]

Remember where that was said?

I don't recall that at the moment

[tacit charm]

hold

[scarlet hinge]

it's never specified - just a "large portion" of the orion arm

[cobalt frigate]

my bad i was replying to the dude that said the galaxy

[scarlet hinge]

no worries

[limber dagger]

Yeah they have discovered and travelled into The Glow and what not, but those are really just different dimensions of the physical universe, sort of like slipspace. I don't believe they have ever actually left the physical universe and explored other ones.

[cobalt frigate]

yeah i think them going outside the physical universe would be a bit too fantasy for halo

[scarlet hinge]

https://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/system/avm_images/binaries/1925/huge/ssc2008-10b.jpg?1603784892

interestingly, Zeta Halo is noted in Point of Light as existing in the Sagittarius arm

[gaunt tiger]

yeah banished used a portal to get there

[cobalt frigate]

i think the 7 rings are in different parts of the galaxy right

[tacit charm]

"We have explored other realities, other spaces—slipspace, denial of locale, shunspace, trick geodetics, natal void, the photon-only realm called the Glow." - halo cryptum

[cobalt frigate]

to cover it entirely?

[scarlet hinge]

roughly evenly distributed, yeah

[tacit charm]

still have no idea wtf shunspace is

[cobalt frigate]

probably a cool sounding word with no meaning the writer just came up with

[limber dagger]

Yeah lol, that's is what I'm talking about. Those are just different dimensional planes, similar to slipspace. I wouldn't really consider those "realms" an entirely different universe. No more than slipspace is at least.

but yes, they did travel thru and discover more dimensional planes of the physical universe.

[tacit charm]

eh usually realities is associated to universes though thats entirely dependent on your perspective.

[limber dagger]

I suppose. I just think it is meant to be more along the lines of what I have described. For example, the forerunners used "The Glow" in order to calculate data in normal space around Charum Hakkor.

[tacit charm]

also

[limber dagger]

So they used this alternate physical dimension in order to gain information about our standard 3 dimensional space.

[tacit charm]

if anyone is wondering wtf i was rambling on about precursor McGuffinverse

"The Falchion is informed of a high density of enemy vessels arriving
through neural physics transmission. They materialize slowly,
characteristic of Precursor transit, shedding multiverse residues at a rate
that makes them temporarily vulnerable to the Falchion’s immediate
response" - halo silentium

[tacit charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber dagger]

Yeah, the multiverse is how the harness vacuum energy. Last Light describes it. They basically "capture" infant universes before they have a chance to expand and convert them into energy.

very weird stuff.

[tacit charm]

ik wat vacuum energy is

except that wasnt vacuum energy

[limber dagger]

Vacuum energy originates from the beginnings of infinite numbers of alternate realities. When harnessed for power supply, these fledgling universes are drained of energy in their infancy, resulting in their premature deaths.[1]

[tacit charm]

ik

thats talking about precursor ftl McGuffins

[limber dagger]

oh. You said what i stated was not vacuum energy lol. thought you were saying I was incorrect.

[tacit charm]

ye

[limber dagger]

yeah the precursor methods of FTL and whatnot really don't make a lot of sense. It's basically just magic.

[tacit charm]

yes

[gaunt tiger]

Guys how could the covernant build up a theocratic dictatorship in the first place?

[limber dagger]

There is a pretty good arguement to be made that the precursors created the universe itself, depending on how you interpret "100 billion years of knowledge"

[cobalt frigate]

that would be pretty weird that they created the universe but inhabit only one galaxy

[tacit charm]

eh i interpret it as both pre universe and accumulative knowledge for e.g halo 3 has just come out and after one hour 7 thousand people has played the game. now that means halo has an accumulative time of 7000 hours but does not mean it has existed for that long

[limber dagger]

Yeah I figured that as well, but a lot of the knowledge in the Domain comes "in the time before there were stars."

[tacit charm]

ye

thats the part the stumps the whole accumulative thing

[limber dagger]

Which would be impossible if they evolved within this universe.

[limber dagger]

they didnt come from this galaxy. they came from somewhere outside of the milky way.

[cobalt frigate]

really? so they're still potentially alive somewhere

[limber dagger]

yeah most likely. They went around from galaxy to galaxy seeding places with life and artificially enhancing the development of intelligent life.

[tacit charm]

i mean there is a multiverse so technically everyone dead is alive and everyone alive is dead

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt frigate]

if they ever evolve the story past "humanity vs aliens" it'd be cool to see the forerunners return and the consequences of that

[limber dagger]

the forerunners are very, very dead. At least most of them. A few left the galaxy after the halo array was activated.

[cobalt frigate]

i meant come to the milky way from other galaxies, not as in return from the dead

[tacit charm]

also need to look into forerunner pseudo manipulation/observation of probability

[gaunt tiger]

?

[tacit charm]

use forerunner tech

[cobalt frigate]

if they existed in multiple galaxies then surely they would've communicated with each other too, and sending a distress call to the other forerunner groups seems like the logical thing to do

[tacit charm]

and say you are god

[limber dagger]

they didnt exist in multiple galaxies. They simply left this one after the halo array was fired. They were not living in the Andromeda galaxy, for example, while everything in this galaxy was happening.

a few of them left, I mean

the idea was for the species to die out over time. They were not trying to restart their civilization and come to power once again. They wanted to atone for their sins and die out peacefully.

[cobalt frigate]

ok so they went from galaxy to galaxy to seed life but they didn't stay there after doing so?

[limber dagger]

no no no, you are confusing the forerunners with the precursors lol

[tacit charm]

?

[blazing sage]

I think you may be confusing precursors and forerunners.

[tacit charm]

wat

[limber dagger]

yes

[tacit charm]

im replying to tank

[limber dagger]

i was saying yes to him confusing forerunners with precursors

not you saying "wat"

[tacit charm]

[cobalt frigate]

well now im confused

[limber dagger]

forerunners did not seed galaxies with life. the precursors did.

two different species.

precursors made forerunners, and humanity.

[cobalt frigate]

so the precursors are the ones that can still exist somewhere outside of the galaxy

[limber dagger]

yes

they almost certainly do unless the entire species came to the milky way to seed it with life.

[sullen ridge]

we know of a few living ones

that are on a shield world now monitored by spark

[small gulch]

wait didn't they just write on top of the already established lore from Halo 1-3 🤨 . It's the same universe

[cobalt frigate]

the kilo 5 trilogy was made under 343 and i think it's one of the best additions to the universe outside of the games

[slim cove]

https://tenor.com/view/aerith-aerith-gainsborough-ff7-ffvii-cloud-strife-gif-22916835

When Admiral Margaret Orlenda Parangosky realised that the plot to destabilise the sangheili government by arming religious fundamentalist dissidents instead led to the resurgence of the covenant.

[versed helm]

XD

[sullen ridge]

doing totally unnessecary stuff really

and then they ruined everything

[gilded mason]

Nice to know ONI forgot real world history of how things like that always go down.

[twilit linden]

Lol

[slim cove]

Lmao yea. Black Box even says that in the book. How these type of plots always backfire, but he decides to keep his mouth… speakers… shut

[gilded mason]

And ONI went into this admitting they didn't know basically anything about Sanghelios. Very...smart.

[sullen ridge]

who expected that

absolutely everyone

[solemn current]

in halo reach what happen to Noble 6 is he alive or dead?

[gilded mason]

Dead as a doornail

[tacit charm]

he's in a cave along with noble

except jun

jun just disappears

forever

[untold wasp]

jun is a spartan recruiter i think

i am pretty sure he helped get buck to be one

[dense pulsar]

If Spartan 3s had the same mission sets as Spartan 2s, do you think they'd have lower casualties?

[woven mason]

Correct

[valid hemlock]

Ded

[sullen ridge]

he personally asked buck to become one

[nimble laurel]

@untold wasp plus in bad blood did Jun not take over as director of spartan training

Because if I remember correctly Station ai had lowered the oxygen in his office and kept him unconscious and kept telling buck he was unavailable

[onyx light]

I really need to read/watch Jun's story, it is a book yeah?

[nimble laurel]

Got it wrong musa was director and Jun was the current supervisor of the station at that time

[mortal pier]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

couldn't cortana just not have been active and just kept a looping distress call and when she detected life reactivate

(sarcasm)

[sour dirge]

Did the Prophets ever know of the Halo rings true purpose while they were ruling the Covenant?

Or were they kept in the dark like everyone else?

[humble yacht]

the prophets did in fact recognize the Halos as weapons, but they mistakenly believed that they only killed the "unworthy"

the "worthy" would become gods, which is what they believed happened to the Forerunners

[sour dirge]

Cool. So during the Covenant Civil War, I know the Elites were branded as traitors kind of, but why was it that grunts, Elites, and Hunters were on one side and Brutes, Jackals, and Drones were on the other? How come the Covenant was split in half during that time?

[gilded mason]

It wasn't

That was for gameplay purposes

In actuality, it was much more mixed

[burnt pulsar]

Yea and also it wasn’t really a civil war if you think about it

[sour dirge]

Cool makes sense

[burnt pulsar]

It was more like a rebellion

[minor sky]

I've heard mixed things on the story from the reviews I've seen. Really really really hope that this isn't a problem with the game and just a personal thing for the reviewers

[nimble laurel]

Hunters who were paired with elites tended to stay with those elites whichever faction they joined

[versed helm]

What was the order of the construction of the Halo rings?

[terse lava]

I would assume their numbers, 01, 02, etc

[burnt pulsar]

Idk the exact order but Zeta halo is the oldest

[terse lava]

Not sure on the first,.older set of halo rings though

@burnt pulsar Zeta is the last of the original set, resized

[versed helm]

Why does every outer hull of the Halo rings in the Master Chief Collection look different for each other?

[gusty star]

So in other words, the oldest

[terse lava]

Technically yeah, but wasn't sure which halo set their question focused on

[versed helm]

Anyone gonna answer this question?

[unique rune]

It's pretty much just differences in art direction as far as anyone knows, there's not really a canon reason given for it.

[spiral jewel]

As of 2560, how much of earth has recovered from the Guardians EMP ? I assume very little, Mostly in rural areas, or in select cities that are back up and running

[wary warren]

Yanme'e are literally the coolest species in the Halo universe IMO. They were a space-faring species even before the Covenant found then, which is pretty cool to think about.

[thorny falcon]

Alright maybe hot-take. Do y'all think that if Chief dies, that Isabel and Jerome would be good characters to take that mantle? Let me now what y'all think about this

[gilded mason]

Do y'all think that if Chief dies, that Isabel and Jerome would be good characters to take that mantle?
Nope.

The absolute last thing we need is more of the same.

[thorny falcon]

Who do you think would be a good fit then? Or should they even have a new "Master Chief" type character

Cause those two already kinda have a similar bond

[gilded mason]

There shouldn't be any "main" protagonist anymore.

Have different characters and species be the PC in each new game

[thorny falcon]

I mean I think there is gonna have to be, or at least others to collectively fill that role

[edgy radish]

@gilded mason didn’t they do that with Halo 5 and people hated it?

[gilded mason]

Like, next game. Be a Kig-yar freight captain who gets in way over his head, or an Elite who's trying to avenge his family, etc

[edgy radish]

It’d be like playing God of War and not being Kratos

[gilded mason]

Main issue there is twofold. 343 gave the impression the game was going to be about John, not Locke. And Locke himself felt as bland as John was.

[thorny falcon]

Yea those would totally be cool, but people will still end up clinging onto someone as the carrier of that mantle

[gilded mason]

Halo isn't about John, though.

[thorny falcon]

Like rn with Marvel, Iron Man was kinda the main character and now it's just who fills that role

[gilded mason]

It's so much bigger than him

[night gate]

Noble 6. Nuff said.

[twilit linden]

Here we go

[gilded mason]

They'll get over it.

[edgy radish]

But he’s the main character. He’s the character you play. The only way I can see the series continuing without MC being the centra character is if they do something like Noble 6

[thorny falcon]

I would love to see a game focusing on Red Team, it would be awesome to see their personalities and backgrounds expanded more

Hell there are so many spinoffs they could make

[edgy radish]

People really fell in-love with Nobel Team

[thorny falcon]

Why not make a game focusing on the Forerunner v Flood war

[gilded mason]

And people loved Rookie as well

Showing that people don't need John as long as it's done well

[edgy radish]

So the only way it works is if they make the player the character

[gilded mason]

People love Thel as well, my dude

[edgy radish]

As far as I’m concerned we’re all going to be enjoying Master Chief for years to come

[thorny falcon]

RIP Rookie lmao

[edgy radish]

So buckle in and enjoy the ride

[gilded mason]

God, I really hope not.

That would be awful for the series

[rain mauve]

I wouldn't mind playing spinoff game for kilo-five squad

[thorny falcon]

Bless up please!

[acoustic aspen]

Any thoughts on how the new weapons fit into the lore considering we've never seen most of them, and they are being introduced during a period of time where the UNSC remnants lack any real manufacturing base to mass produce weapons... or even an entire new generation of Mjolnir Armor?

[gilded mason]

Maybe they can all die by the end of the game. That'd be neat.

[thorny falcon]

I think that would make sense. Maybe the campaign will explain part of it but we know most weapons we've used all existed at the same time

We know the Halo 2 and Halo 3 snipers existed at the same time, same thing with the Magnums from CE-3, I guess it just comes down to who has what

[rain mauve]

Almost like reach huh

[gilded mason]

But hopefully more embarrassingly.

Like Vaz just slips on the ground, and that's it for him.

[rain mauve]

Why is that?

[thorny falcon]

I always thought it would be cool to have an RPG styled game

Let us play with Elites, Humans, and other species on our squad

[gilded mason]

Outside of whether they're good or bad characters, they're bad people.

[thorny falcon]

Kinda like Mass Effect ig lol

[edgy radish]

The Commando and the Hydra are the only “new guns” though, right?

[acoustic aspen]

The Halo 2-3 snipers were different models of the same rifle, with succeeding designations of SRS-99. Same with the Magnum

[thorny falcon]

Heatwave, Cindershot, Pulserifle, Sidekick, and the Stalker Rifle are all new

[acoustic aspen]

Hydra was in 5, Commando, S7, Sidekick, Bulldog, etc are new

[thorny falcon]

Most of the sandbox are new guns

[edgy radish]

@thorny falcon but those aren’t UNSC weapons, those are alien weapons

[thorny falcon]

Oh UNSC ones my bad

Then yea the Commando, Sidekick, and Bulldog

[rain mauve]

When you put it like that, makes sense

[acoustic aspen]

The only legacy UNSC weapons are the SPNKR, the Battle Rifle, and technically the Assault rifle.

[thorny falcon]

But the Infinite Hydra is clearly a different model than the Halo 5 one. Also I think the lore behind the AR is that we are always using the Naval variant of the AR except in Reach and Infinite where we are using the Army form of it

[thorny falcon]

Think the only two weapons left that have been usable in every game are the Needler and Plasma Pistol lol

[unique rune]

The VK78 is an old gun that dates back to the late 25th century, while the Mk50 and CQS48 don't have any official introduction dates so it's not really unreasonable that they could've entered service with the UNSC sometime prior to 2559.

[edgy radish]

Weapons are weapons, I don’t put much thought into them

[thorny falcon]

Oh and the Sniper too

[edgy radish]

There could be dozens of reasons why we’re only now seeing them

[unique rune]

The BR75's designation implies that it was probably in development sometime between the BR55 and BR85

[thorny falcon]

Bro 343 when are you giving us the Gauss cannon sniper lol

We know it exists in lore

It's even in Halo Wars 2 lmao

[unique rune]

With the Infinity's extensive manufacturing capabilities it's really not that weird that the UNSC is still able to produce new materiel, even while on the run.
Most of Cortana's enforcement following the Created takeover is responsive, more than anything.
As long as they stay low profile and hard to track she's not going to just pop out of nowhere and obliterate them.

[thorny falcon]

Honestly I does kinda suck that we lost the Promethean weapons

I know they were redundant and people weren't complete fans of them, but dang they were fun lol

But the new guns we have are pretty awesome too

[twilit kite]

We basically still have Forerunner weaponry, just a mystery where the Prometheans went. Unless the 30 books released since Halo 5 explain why.

[thorny falcon]

No I think they are still in the universe lmao

But I think they were literally just written out of the story for some reason, unless they are there and we haven't seen them for whatever reason which, yea no they would have shown us lol

[minor sky]

So... why do the Banished want to fire the Rings suddenly? I thought the Banished believed in the Great Journy not being real/aren't the type to wipe out a good chunk of life in the Galaxy?

[unique rune]

I imagine that's something we'll find out from playing the campaign.

[thorny falcon]

Nah they don't believe in the Great Journey, but they probably just want to clear out all of Human space to take their resources

[minor sky]

But like, wouldn't that kill them in the process too?

[thorny falcon]

I mean, suicide bombers maybe?

Just send a couple people in with the ring armed, second it drops out of slip space they'd just let it fire

[gilded mason]

They mean that every single civilization we know of in Halo would be in the blast.

[thorny falcon]

It does take 6 of the 7 rings to kill the entire galaxy

One ring only would only take care of a certain portion

[gilded mason]

All of the Halo species live in relatively the same location.

So all that would happen is that every species in the area, Humans, Elites, Brutes, etc. would go extinct.

[minor sky]

I doubt the Banished would want to get rid of some of their most valuable members

[stable flower]

Out of universe, it just makes them feel more like the Covenant than they already do.

[thorny falcon]

I mean there is literally like one use for a Halo ring

So I don't imagine what else they'd do with it

[honest trout]

They just want to steal cool stuff from it probably

[stable flower]

Maybe salvage it like they did the Ark

[untold wasp]

so they can be rulers of the universe?

[minor sky]

A Universe where they are dead and everyone else is also dead

[acoustic aspen]

Two technically. They also serve as preserves prior to the species inhabiting them transiting to the Ark.

[thorny falcon]

Okay I might not be totally correct on this but it's only stated that the UNSC's activities took place in the Orion arm, but I'm not sure if the covenant were so limited. The only reason humanity didn't go further was A) Their slipspace tech sucked and B) Mass genocide of their species. Even at the time though I think it would have only take humanity 8 months to cross the entire galaxy with cryo-sleep? The Covie's easily could have built more bases. Even then that's a void argument, we know humanity is all across the galaxy too now considering they've been to I'm pretty sure every Halo ring and they are even putting bases on the Ark, which is literally outside the Galaxy. There is probably a LOT of Banished forces outside of Earth area. Also that you can control the output of the ring's pulse I'm pretty sure. It really wouldn't be that hard for them to just kill all of Earth at once

Also I highly doubt the Banished worry about killing not Banished lmao

That's kind of their whole thing

[gilded mason]

but I'm not sure if the covenant were so limited.
They were. It was stated the Covenant only really have taken scouting missions or some forward outposts outside of the Orion Arm.

we know humanity is all across the galaxy too now considering they've been to I'm pretty sure every Halo ring
Only 04, 05, 07, and 03

And those are isolated pockets

Everyone is still in the Orion Arm barring such pockets.

[thorny falcon]

Let's not forget 08 and 09 lol

04 really just doesn't want to exist again XD

[spare stream]

Well, UNSC don't necessarily need advanced enough space travel to reach where the Ark is since the portal is on Earth

[fair shale]

Does Halo have religion?

[stable flower]

The portal closed due to Cortana though

[gilded mason]

They learned it from human communications

[stark flint]

How do Halsey and Laskey know that Cortana is still alive and trying to take the Mantle of Responsibility before Halo 5 even starts? The game starts with them already having plans, knowing rough whereabouts etc. It just doesn't make sense to me, even scouring the wiki pages of Halsey and Laskey doesn't give me any info on how they know so much

I know that The Librarian came in contact with Halsey so she got the Janus Key, but she wouldn't have even been able to use the key until getting rescued due to it being split in half almost right away. There's no real info on The Librarian talking to Halsey about Cortana

[cosmic zinc]

as far as i know/remember just the Covenant religion for the great journey.

[fair shale]

Ah ok

[sour dirge]

Did Buck ever find out what happened to his ODST squad when they were separated?

[stark flint]

Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and a few others have been practiced by various humans. Its definitely not a popular phenomenon. In the real world God gets a little smaller with every huge scientific breakthrough. I'd imagine exploring the cosmos and encountering aliens would make Gods of any religion seem pretty small and irrelevant

[stark flint]

Read Halo: Bad Blood, it details where all of them ended up. The band does get back together, so to speak.

The same way anyone learns any language, you just kinda learn it. I wouldn't be surprised to find that most communications between the alien factions comes from super widespread and accessible translation technology. In fact it seems kinda unlikely any segment of the Covenant would be able to effectively communicate with one another without some kind of standard-issue translation tech

[unique rune]

I think the idea was that Halsey noticed some signs and figured it out while studying Forerunner things for Jul and remained in contact with Lasky and the UNSC, but I'm not sure if that's actually the case.

[haughty oriole]

Hey Everyone, I have a question about the Lore

Does anyone knows what is the name of the forerruner structures on the fragmentation map on Halo Infinite and basically every forerruner Installation, and If you know would you Let me know what is it's purpose

[last anchor]

Pulse generators I think

[haughty oriole]

Thank you C:

[last anchor]

Im not sure but thats what I Remembert

[haughty oriole]

I just search it and read what Pulse generators are

[dense pulsar]

Did the Covenant or what was left of it ever give the humans any reparations for the war?

[gilded mason]

Yes, or at the very least, the SoS has been working towards helping the UEG get back up and running.

[haughty oriole]

It doesn't was what i looking for but thanks (sorry for my Bad english XD)

[dense pulsar]

What about forerunner tech? They've been using that right?

[gilded mason]

UEG and SoS alike, yes

[ashen abyss]

I have a doubt, if the portal to the Ark was hidden under Earth's surface, why didn't the humans know it was under their feet these long years? Was it planned to be hidden with some tech by the Forerunner?

[stark flint]

The Forerunners put it there for humanity to find and honestly no proper explanation was given as to how it went undiscovered for so long

[sullen ridge]

oni knew

[ashen abyss]

Then why didn't they dig?

[sullen ridge]

they didn't know what it was for

because oni

good luck digging up and entire city

[ashen abyss]

But did they atleast research on it?

[sullen ridge]

to some extent

[ashen abyss]

So many secrets in ONI, even at their Home World

[sullen ridge]

it's oni

[ashen abyss]

Yeah right

Then ONI should have known what the Covenant were digging

[sullen ridge]

they probably did

[ashen abyss]

And the reason why they are at Earth

But in the ending of ODST Johnson asked that Huragok about what they were digging

[sullen ridge]

oni kept everyone in the dark

like always

[ashen abyss]

So Halsey is the only character in the Game that knows the secrets of ONI

[sullen ridge]

yeah and they didn't like that

[nimble laurel]

If anyone had figured stuff out then oni had two options black site or death and at the time Halsey was untouchable

[ashen abyss]

Right

[sullen ridge]

"mysterious disappearance"

[ashen abyss]

I wish there are evidences of Covenant existence in Area 51

[sullen ridge]

jul mdama getting his oni treatment

lmao

[ashen abyss]

Near his bed is Locke with his splattered....

[heavy loom]

Hello

[ashen abyss]

Hello 117

[heavy loom]

Hi Sree

[ashen abyss]

So did you find Cortana?

[heavy loom]

Not yet

[ashen abyss]

Or you staying with the Weapon?

[heavy loom]

Still with the weapon

[ashen abyss]

Cortana's little sister

[heavy loom]

The similarities

[ashen abyss]

Well yeah

[heavy loom]

Are you me from another universe?

[ashen abyss]

Nah I am your fan from another Dimension

[heavy loom]

Interesting...

[ashen abyss]

In our Dimension you are a fictional character

[heavy loom]

Well I gotta go beat up the banished and get cortana! (School)

[ashen abyss]

Yeah complete the mission soon (Homework)

[cosmic river]

why is the new frigate design so big?

[versed helm]

So how many former colonies have been resettled besides Meridian, Biko, Eridanus II and Reach?

[nimble laurel]

@cosmic river 5 different classes of frigate yhat I know off so each class will be different size

[versed helm]

So how many times has the Infinity gotten wrecked?

[nimble laurel]

Twice as far as I know once when on shakedown and second was reqium and they had to take parts from her sister ship

[versed helm]

That one time where it nearly got blown up by a Covenant space station that was equipped with a glassing beam

[nimble laurel]

Yeah think that was her shakedown mission

[versed helm]

That ship just cannot catch a break, can it?

[nimble laurel]

Well it did have del rio as captain so it had that against it at the time lol

Always thought it was funny when chief just said no to del rio and no one not even palmer would arrest him she had more of a I ain't getting involved in this squabble but it did show how unstable he was compared to lasky

[cosmic river]

ya, previous ones are 500 ish meters, new one is like 4km if in game is anything to go by

[nimble laurel]

Think you got frigates mistaken for the super carriers

Largest frigate was the Paris at 199 metres and the smallest being the strident at 124 metres

[tacit charm]

is it actually cause ye that is one big boi

[tacit charm]

i mean technically if you actually sum it up lasky puts the infinity in danger more times than del oreo

[nimble laurel]

@tacit charm yeah true but lasky knew when to fight and when to flee unlike del rio who wanted to turn tail and run leaving earth under threat from the diadact

[cosmic river]

That’s not correct, they have all been about 500 meters

[cosmic river]

It’s really dumb, if you look on it, the windows are 30-60 meters wide and at least 30 meters tall

[nimble laurel]

@cosmic river my bad I was looking at width by mistake on the manual Paris is 535 in length and the strident is 575 🤣🤣

[tacit charm]

little frigate as big as a punic super carrier neat

[cosmic river]

Ye, that’s more like it

[cosmic river]

The one in infinite is kinda shown as being like 3km long… if you fly out to it in the sky box

It’s dumb dumb big

I think it’s just cus it’s in the skybox though

The windows and other details are obviously hinting at it being around the same 500 meter mark

[nimble laurel]

If a frigate was 3km then the infinity would have to be larger than cso super carrier to carry ten of them in her ventral hangers I think 🤔 so about 3 and a half in height

[tacit charm]

actually hold up imma try and find what i wrote about infinity scaling in h4

[cosmic river]

The ones in infinity were about 400-500 meters

[nimble laurel]

Infinity compliment was 10 stridents

[nimble laurel]

@Spartan Dreggman 9801#6428 no problem I'm just guessing myself

[dry heath]

Yo do any of you think lasky is still alive after the unsc destruction

[nimble laurel]

Hopefully they are still running but at same time what about the spirit of fire@dry heath

[dry heath]

Wait are they do

Because the infinity got destroyed

[nimble laurel]

At the end if halo 5 the infinity ran into slippage before the guardian set of its emp @dry heath

Slipspace

[dry heath]

But in infinite we find out that the infinity ship and 1500 unsc soldiers get killed almost all and a few manage to survive

Its in a trailer or first mission

[nimble laurel]

I need to wait till 6 o'clock tonight as been avoiding trailers and spoilers about it

[dry heath]

Oh alright. The campaign is gonna be awesome.

[nimble laurel]

I know can't wait get a few hours into tonight at least but good news is can watch hawkeye before I do 🤣

[dry heath]

Thats amazing good movie then good game 😏

[nimble laurel]

Yeah hawkeyes a 6 part series on d+ so it's finish work home dog out food and chill lol

[dry heath]

Yep your preparing to finish the fight

[nimble laurel]

Yeah don't wanna rush it though as wanna enjoy the game plus will still be hitting mp for my challenges

[dry heath]

Ye i gotta do a ton of homework so that shall delay me a bit 🤣

[nimble laurel]

Just tell teacher homework is irrelevant since your saving the universe again banished and need to finish the fight 🤣

[dry heath]

Yes
"Do lesson 2.8 please"
"There wont be a lesson 2.8 if we dont defeat the banished"

Alright ima head to bed sleep tight tommorow we finish the fight

[ashen abyss]

What would have john become, if he was not selected for the Spartan Program?

[versed helm]

how strong and skilled is master chief in hand to hand combat?

[nimble laurel]

Well him and noble 6 are classed as hyper lethal so I think very skilled unlike the crap locke vs chief fight because chief would have took lock down easier than what was shown but they had to make locke his equal for some reason

[versed helm]

Every Spartan is classified hyper lethal

[nimble laurel]

To be hyper-lethal is to exceed the highest expectations one would have of even an entire SpecOps division. Hyper-lethal combatants, thus far restricted to SPARTAN-117 and SPARTAN-B312, can and have wiped out entire armies and organizations on their own

[stark flint]

The fight was just poorly done in general. It never should have become a 1 on 1 fistfight. That cutscene has far bigger issues than how dominate Chief was

[versed helm]

When you copy and paste an answer from a 6 year old reddit post

[acoustic aspen]

I know what book you're getting that from. It's written from an in universe perspective and functions as little more than in universe Spartan IV Propaganda.

[nimble laurel]

I pinched it because not a home to check right but it is true only those 2 have the classification because everywhere else you check Say's the same thing

[acoustic aspen]

The only single piece that counters it is the Halo: Official Spartan Field Manual. which as I said in my post is just in universe Spartan 4 propaganda.

[nimble laurel]

@acoustic aspen exactly

[versed helm]

Tbf theres a big problem with "Hyper-Lethal"
Since there are Spartans, particularly II's that nearly match/in a lot of areas exceed Johns abilities

Even Chief once said "There's a different between being the best and the best-known"

343 pretty much retconned Noble 6 and Chief actually being classed as hyper-lethal/there actually has been things from 343 saying every Spartan is Hyper-lethal, which is completely true lol
Tho Noble 6 is still a complete power-house death machine lol

No single Spartan is really given that designation anymore since it doesn't exactly make sense
I mean Kelly killed millions of covie is just about 5 minutes but you don't see people calling her Hyper-lethal lol

[acoustic aspen]

While some exceed johns abilities in specifics, (Fred in cqc, Kelly in speed, Kurt in intuition, Linda in marksmanship) John has always been the perfect balance of it all. He's not the best at anything, but he's good enough at everything.

[nimble laurel]

@acoustic aspen hence why Fred will play second to John even though he outranks him because John is the leader for all spartan 2s and if it wasn't John it would have been kurt

[versed helm]

Again "Hyper-lethal" has already been reconned
Also again that goes for multiple other Spartans as well

pretty much every Spartan II is considered Hyper-lethal lol 'And no thats not 'in universe propaganda'

[acoustic aspen]

Retconned by a book written as an in universe S4 propaganda. You'll forgive me if I don't hold it as sacrosanct.

[versed helm]

Its been retconned in more than just 1 book
I believe its now in 2 different 343 Spartan Manual things, pre-order bonuses and a lot of board games for some reason but yeah.
Its not in universe propaganda

[nimble laurel]

I go by the Halsey metre she classed those 2 and only those 2cif I remember correctly

[acoustic aspen]

Halo: Official Spartan Field Manual is literally described as such "The book is written as an official guide for a new SPARTAN-IV recruit recently assigned into the UNSC Infinity, with additional info added by Spartans Gabriel Thorne and Tedra Grant."

It's a puff piece.

full of errors

[versed helm]

That was back in 2010 (To Kurama) lol, before half the books came out and started showing how capable pretty much every Spartan is not to mention even chief pretty much saying he isn't even the best which would also mean he thinks others would be more "hyper lethal".

Which honestly serves Halos stories better, Chief is hella amazing but him still being an underdog/not the strongest every makes him more interesting tbh

[acoustic aspen]

The book says that the Truth and Reconciliation was a carrier (It was a battlecruiser), it says that John was in cryo after the battle of Installation 00 for 6 years (Which would have had him come out of cryo around the time of infinite), and it also says that the authorization for the Spartan III program was granted 100 years prior to it's conception. So again, you will forgive me for not holding it as sacrosanct.

[nimble laurel]

I'm not saying every spartan isn't hyper lethal but as far as I know only two have the actual classification

[acoustic aspen]

Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx, and Cole protocol are the books that deal the most with Spartan II's and they were released prior to 2010. I would expect that if there was to be any Spartan II's designated as hyper Lethal, they would have noted them there.

[versed helm]

Hence why it was retconned.

[acoustic aspen]

You keep saying there's more than one source, well... citation needed.

[versed helm]

Whats a spartans standard equipment and loadout?

[nimble laurel]

Depends on the spartan to be fair because for example they are trained in all weapons but Linda usually sticks with nornfang and Fred prefers his knives @versed helm

[teal sphinx]

So many retcons

So little time

[nimble laurel]

@teal sphinx yup

[versed helm]

So if the Forerunners buried the Portal at Voi underneath the surface of the Earth, then how did it go unnoticed for so long?

[scarlet hinge]

most of it was really far down + an element of "well, you kinda have to just accept it"

however, in related stuff in the 2390s exobiologists did uncover something they referred to as the Ross-Ziegler Blip

even despite the best efforts of the Forerunners, there's no way they could hide the aberration in the fossil record that came from all life in the galaxy dying at once

and over time, this began to become recognised as a small error the records, though it was a bit of a mystery for centuries

as for the Voi portal, it was known of to some extent

the ONI Alpha Site and the Superintendent's data centre were built atop it, and you can see it in the cave in Data Hive

[versed helm]

Yep, but before ONI

[scarlet hinge]

that facility was presumably built centuries ago

the Mombasa tether and the island surrounding it were constructed in the 2300s

it's likely knowledge of it was restricted, and geological surveys of the area restricted

in Sadie's Story, Dr. Endesha did exactly that

he was performing routine seismic surveys for infrastructure projects and noticed something unusual under the city

[versed helm]

There's also another thing, what "20th century conflict" was Crow's Nest built for?

[scarlet hinge]

it's never particularly stated

myself, I'd assume it isn't 20th century

in the same way most people would mix up pretty much any century from more than maybe 150 years ago

it's entirely possible it was constructed during the later parts of the 21st century, and the marine was just wrong - the base is covered with NATO symbols so at minimum it needs to be post-Second World War

to him, looking back on the 20th century is like us looking back on the 1500s and 1600s

if you looked at a castle used during the Wars of the Roses, would you be able to accurately describe when it was built?

probably not

@versed helm here's some more info on the discovery of the Voi portal prior to 2552 https://www.halopedia.org/Portal_at_Voi#Discovery

[strong tinsel]

Oni had discovered it before truth but they didnt know what it was yet

[rare rover]

Whats Arbiters name? Is it Thel Vatimee?

[scarlet hinge]

Thel 'Vadam

the -ee suffix on Sangheili names was done to denote their service in the armed forces of the Covenant

those who left the Covenant dropped its use

so Thel 'Vadam was called Thel 'Vadamee during his Covenant service

[terse lava]

I suspect some also had the -ee naturally, like Vil 'Kthamee

[scarlet hinge]

it could be a thing some houses generally adopted as a universal thing

and likewise, dropping it was likely a personal decision - i figure many wouldn't

[north bridge]

Hey a question are the Halo books worth checking out at all? I never knew there were a lot of books and I've been a Halo player since ODST first released which then led to 3 & Reach.

[scarlet hinge]

they're pretty decent overall, though as with any series that runs on long enough you get a wide variety

some are amazing, and some are pretty mediocre

with 32-ish books out, there's a fairly diverse range of genres

I'd say The Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx make up the core quadrilogy of books that are must-reads alongside Contact Harvest - after that you can pretty much just branch off into whatever interests you

Contact Harvest and Silent Storm are my personal favourites, as someone more interested in the worldbuilding and a preference for hard science fiction generally

[north bridge]

I mean I'll probably be avoiding any books related to Halo 4 since I remembered feeling underwhelmed by it and also Halo 5 since I never played it.

Those books you mentioned go further into Reach, CE, 2, ODST, Halo Wars (Haven't played it much) & even Halo Wars 2 (Never played it either)?

[nimble laurel]

@scarlet hinge isnt Thursday war and mortal dictata the follow up books from ghists of onyx

[scarlet hinge]

yep

Fall of Reach covers the Spartan program and the battle in the title

The Flood is a novelisation of CE with more perspectives of the Covenant and ODSTs on the ring

First Strike is between CE and 2, and Ghosts of Onyx is about the Spartan IIIs during Halo 2

Contact Harvest is set right at the start of the war, and is about Sergeant Johnson, the Prophet of Truth and first contact with the Covenant (alongside a whole lot of discussion of Covenant politics, religion and the Insurrection)

[scarlet hinge]

Glasslands follows on from Onyx, but it's mostly focused on being the start of Kilo-5 trilogy

which is a whole thing in of itself

they're not as must-read as everything else

[nimble laurel]

Yeah it's glasslands then the other two I remember now

[north bridge]

Huh I see. I saw some Halo novels in my book store but didn't know if I want to get into a huge series. I might check out any book related to ODST & Reach since they were my fav stories in Halo.

[scarlet hinge]

ah, i can make some recommendations

[nimble laurel]

Halo retribution is also a good book but follows grey team and silent storm is an excellent read

Halo New blood and bad blood follows buck from being an odst to a spartan

[scarlet hinge]

for stuff heavily featuring ODSTs, I'd say;

Silent Storm (focuses on Blue Team and an ODST battalion)
The Flood (about the Pillar of Autumn's ODST complement during Halo CE)
NEw Blood and Bad Blood (about Buck's experiences during the war and his experiences going into the Spartan program)
Helljumper (a comic series about Dutch, Mickey and Romeo prior to H3:ODST)

The Fall of Reach and First Strike (about the events of the fall of Reach, not seen in game)
Shadows of Reach (follows on from First Strike in many ways, and is a setup for Infinite)

here's a full list of novels and their brief descriptions, https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_novels

[nimble laurel]

Halo hunters in the dark is also a good read

[scarlet hinge]

i did not care for that one, personally

[north bridge]

Ah ok thanks, I'll keep these in mind for the future if I run out of books to read.

[scarlet hinge]

no prob - I'd also recommend the Evolutions anthologies; they're short story collections with a wide variety of subject matter

[north bridge]

Halo short stories?

[scarlet hinge]

yep

they feature stuff like Halo's version of the film Alien

[nimble laurel]

What I like about the books as they add that extra layer to the lore but @scarlet hinge is right some are good and some are not so good

[scarlet hinge]

and a documentation of the life of one Vice Admiral Preston "Ima destroy a fleet by turning a gas giant into a star" Cole

among many other things

[north bridge]

That's cool, the most notable author for me is Karen Traviss (I was also curious about the Gears of War novelizations too from her as well) at least for me. https://www.goodreads.com/series/50386-halo

Which are the worst books to stay clear of?

[scarlet hinge]

funnily enough, many fans would say Traviss' books

they're a love them or hate them sort of deal

if you're not too into the details like a lot of us nerds, I'd say they're fine

Personally, I would say to avoid the Forerunner books but again, they're very much love them or hate them - if you find that stuff interesting don't let my view stop you

I'm very rooted in the more grounded elements of the series, so I have a preference for the stuff more focused on smaller scale

i'd say my least favourite is probably Hunters in the Dark, which feels a little bit like it encapsulates everything I don't care for in a science fiction book

but it has my favourite cover art in the series so lol

[nimble laurel]

@north bridge tbh with you it's your preference because books we love you could hate and vice versa

[north bridge]

Oh really? idk much about that author but apparently she did a really good job fleshing out the lore for Gears of War's novelizations from what I looked up so I thought her Halo novels would be received well also? Tbh I haven't paid attention to the Halo lore much so I wouldn't know which contradicts or is correct.

[nimble laurel]

@north bridge do you have kindle unlimited because they got a couple books there that you could download for free

[north bridge]

Nah I don't use kindle

e-books hurt my eyes and also distracts me easily to do something else.

[scarlet hinge]

in general, she was criticised for lack of research on her end, leading her writing to have a lot of odd congruities with older lore that the series still suffers from to this day

alongside making her biases very clear in her work

to the point of making characters perform weird illogical actions

if you know little about the lore i'd say they're fine to go into

but among the more longtime readers they're not so popular

i enjoy traviss' prose so i find them pretty nice reads outside of those issues though

[nimble laurel]

@north bridge it's kool I prefer a paper book over a kindke

[north bridge]

So basically these books ended up a platter so then Halo 4 & 5 continue from them unless I'm mistaken?

[scarlet hinge]

they don't continue directly

the Traviss books set up how Jul Mdama got a control of his faction

and the general state of the postwar era

but other than that they have nothing to do with Master Chief or anything like that

[north bridge]

Ok gotcha. I can understand why some folks may not like these books since they're connected to Halo 4 & 5's story.

[scarlet hinge]

the people who dislike these books are often those who liked 4

the Traviss books have almost nothing to do with 4 and 5

tbh, part of the reason people dislike 5 is because it squandered one of the best bits of the Traviss books (Jul)

[nimble laurel]

On a side note if you are thinking of buying the halo encyclopedia you may want to wait till March for the newest version

[north bridge]

hmm interesting, I'll definitely keep that in mind the next time I replay Halo 4 to get a refresher on the campaign and I guess this encyclopedia is getting updated due to Infinite's involvement?

[nimble laurel]

Yeah March 29th it's out for pre order at the moment

[north bridge]

good to know

[nimble laurel]

@north bridge mind you I'm going by the UK date but could be different if you stay elsewhere

[north bridge]

Yeah probably is different. Thanks for all the suggestions Bacon & Kurama.

[nimble laurel]

@north bridge it's all good mate

[dense marsh]

What if the master chief in fortnite is in halo infinite? Does he have the ability to crack 90s? Is there gonna be a building mechanic in halo infinite?

[nimble laurel]

@dense marsh hell naw keep that building #$%^ away from our beloved franchise 😂 now I've got the sight of grunts putting up walls trying to stop you

[random surge]

so im ready to play this campaign and see what happens next

[spring spindle]

stay clear of anything by tobias buckell or matt forbeck (buckell's style is basically at a 5th grade reading level, and forbeck's first-person characterization of Buck is pretty bad IMO) (Which sucks because they gave those two terrible authors some of the coolest material to cover, that being Spartan Gray Team and post-Mombasa Alpha Nine)

best ones are Traviss like you mentioned, Troy Denning, and of course the legendary Eric Nylund

tbh, the only books that are really "bad" are the ones by Buckell and Forbeck.

Some people don't like the Forerunner trilogy by Greg Bear because it is a bit dense and doesn't really feature any familiar characters (since it takes place hundreds of thousands of years before the start of the games), but I personally liked them just because it gives a lot of backstory and info on the Forerunners who, up to that point, were a complete and total mystery

[elder zodiac]

Sony has soo many "mascots." We have one. Chief

[hollow folio]

i know this is a commonly asked and debated topic but do we know for sure (has it been confirmed or hinted at in any way) that noble 6 is truly dead?

[humble yacht]

Yes

[trim nymph]

MIA*

[humble yacht]

No, KIA

[trim nymph]

😦

Spartans never die tho

[unique rune]

Only if you eat up the propaganda

[trim nymph]

Then i am a sheep

[tiny crane]

Noble six is hiding in a cave on zeta

[trim nymph]

he's actually cuddling with the arbiter drawing shapes on his chest listening to stories about Chief

[scarlet hinge]

yeah, this has been confirmed several times both via in-universe sources and the writers just outright saying it

anything trying to say he's alive is a meme

[trim nymph]

You also see he got shot in the face at the ending of Lone Wolf

[spring spindle]

Rest of Noble team dragged him down tbh

"Trueskill matchmaking"

according to Halsey "Six has made entire militia groups disappear"
would've probably been able to do a lot more damage to the covenant if he wasn't stuck following Carter's "no lone wolf stuff" orders

[hardy light]

Yea Carter’s orders there were a little bogus, the amount of covenant we could have massacred would have been most excellent

[hollow folio]

okay thanks

[versed helm]

Feel like most Spartans died due to y'know the "lone wolf stuff"

Also a militia group is a whole different thing compared to the beast that is the covenant lol

Not to mention Carters orders technically took out one of the largest covenant vessels/killing millions and millions of covies.

[hardy light]

6 was on par with chief in terms of skill, 6 could have rained hell on the covenant

[spring spindle]

meh, that was more Kat's orders being passed through Carter's mouth lol

[versed helm]

Are you just ignoring the Super carrier part? Lmao?

Or the fact that stopping the covies stealing research of oni's forerunner stuff on Reach etc

Noble 6 could mot have even managed to do any of the damage he did alone lol. That's not even arguable.

[spring spindle]

and idk, Chief has been doing the lone wolf stuff for quite a while; him being the only other Spartan besides Six to achieve a "hyper-lethal" rating

[unique rune]

"Hyper lethal" has been retconned to apply to all Spartans now.

I still hate the term but it's... a mild improvement over the original cringeworthy marketing guff that it used to be.

[spring spindle]

Are you referring to UPPERCUT when you're talking about the supercarrier? because that was definitely Kat's plan that Carter reluctantly agreed to

[north bridge]

So books like Encoy, New & Bad Blood, Cole Protocol & Legacy of Onyx are bad reads? Tbh I don't think I want the mystery of the Forerunners to be ruined for me if I do read those books from Greg Bear.

[versed helm]

Still under Carter/to Carter
And again Noble 6 being alone couldn't have even done that amount of damage, theres no argument to even be had here lol

[spring spindle]

Personally I've only read Bad Blood and Cole Protocol, but those were enough to put a bad taste in my mouth for Forbeck and Buckell respectively

[spring spindle]

I mean there is lol. We don't know what Six could've accomplished on his own, because that's not how the Battle of Reach went down.

[subtle coral]

Please give it another try. The original quadrilogy and Contact Harvest

[hardy light]

The super carrier idea was kat’s not Carter’s, I have no problem with Jorge, and Kat, or even Emile, but Carter is a doofus no doubt about it

[spring spindle]

I mean I love contact harvest and the first 3 books that Nylund wrote. I just really don't like First Person perspectives in action books since most of the time the writing just feels cringey

[versed helm]

Like what? Willed it out of existence?
Just stop lol

[subtle coral]

Understandable. Nylund was probably my favorite so that's why I like them so much. Travis did decent imo

[north bridge]

Hmm I see. I mean I'll still read them in the future just to see more perspectives from other Spartans & ODST.

[spring spindle]

Just stop what you goof? Are you seriously getting defensive over Carter right now lmao. If we're going by what happened in-game, Noble Six almost singlehandedly accomplished all of Noble's objectives. Carter blew himself up on a Scarab, and that's about the only thing he directly did lol

[versed helm]

i'm not even arguing about Carter specifically but 6 did the most damage possible being in Noble team, use your brain lol

Him being alone would've achieved pretty much nothing

[spring spindle]

I loved the Kilo-5 trilogy. Traviss, Nylund, and Denning are my top authors. If you haven't read the books by Denning they're pretty good and focus a lot on the Spartan-III's from Ghosts of Onyx

[spring spindle]

Ok I'm not saying they should've dropped 6 in the middle of the planet and said "Good luck!"

he still would need some UNSC support ofc

[elder zodiac]

Sounds kinda like how mob says they " joined witness protection" when it'd time to dissappear someone

[versed helm]

You know he only has the rank he has is because of Noble team/Carter yeah? lol

Even with UNSC support half the stuff that happened still wouldn't be that possible at all

[spring spindle]

i mean this is an entirely hypothetical situation . I'm going based on what I saw in game; what I saw in game was that Noble Six was the "Ramirez, do everything" of Noble team. it's possible that each member was doing super important stuff in the background while Six was "doing everything", but that's not what I saw

Carter's orders and strategies weren't anything that any other commander or leader could've came out with. Not to mention most of his plans ended with someone on the team dying

[gleaming star]

UNSC spirit of fire is the single most important ship the unsc has at the moment more important than the infinity why its the only ship left that can easily colonize anywhere

and with 99% of all the colonies glassed or destroyed lord knows the only way to expand is with that ship

[unique rune]

That's... a bit of an overstatement.

[versed helm]

Cause 6 is the most effective member of the team

[subtle coral]

Agreed, the only ones I haven't really dived in to is the Rion Series (Point of Light, Renegades, Smoke and Shadow)

[dense pulsar]

I'm late on this, but 6 is an outlier among outliers iirc

Spartan 3s are trained for suicide missions so really they trade lives for time

[spring spindle]

agreed. all i'm saying is he might've been more effective on his own than he was working on a team. his record was way more redacted than anyone on noble, so apparently he was already doing a good job with whatever he was doing before he joined noble. then, he joins noble, and dies lol

[dense pulsar]

Noble team by itself is already an elite group of Spartan 3s

[winter totem]

Hi chaps. I used to closely follow the Halo lore a couple of years ago. I read all the books up until the Greg Bear trilogy. I'm out of touch now and want to get back into it. Any recommendations of which order I should follow now?

[dense pulsar]

Not every S3 was outfitted with the armor right?

[versed helm]

Six being put on noble was a mismanagement

[dense pulsar]

Well, what was Noble teams mission on Reach before the events of the game?

[versed helm]

Insurgency activity.

[dense pulsar]

Because Six was a private hitman for ONI

[subtle coral]

Wait for Nobel 6 to be added...

[versed helm]

So assassinating them

Jun was basically already the spartan they'd use for it

[dense pulsar]

I don't think it was a bad move considering his track record when it came to insurgency but they didn't foresee the covenant pulling up

The alternative seems to be that 6 just keeps killing people for ONI

[versed helm]

Same result tbh. He was probably already killing insurgents

[dense pulsar]

Really, he was just there to replace a guy who died on an earlier mission and I think the UNSC could have filled that spot

[versed helm]

Pretty sure 3s were consistently dying at that point

[dense pulsar]

That was basically they're entire purpose

Go on really deadly missions that set the covenant back

[subtle coral]

Aside from a "we needed him to be on the team for the game" I am sure there was a reason they put him there. ONI just doesn't toss around head hunters on random teams. Could have been there for a specific reason that could have still lead him to Halsey

You can just read the beginning on Onyx to see that the III's are just cannon fodder

[dense pulsar]

Maybe kill Halsey in the event she's captured?

[subtle coral]

could be, maybe ONI didn't care for Halsey's work and had different motives.

but that's slim to none, they need her

[dense pulsar]

I wouldn't say they were cannon fodder, they just had the misfortune of having the worst jobs compared to the conventional battles the S2s had

If they couldn't produce Spartan 3s, I think the next step would have been to send ODSTs on the same missions but in larger waves

[spring spindle]

ok ok can we all just agree that Jun was the most useless member of Noble? lol

flying around in a helicopter the whole time, "supervising" while we get ripped apart

[subtle coral]

in the game? Yes. Story, I wouldn't say so

[spring spindle]

story sure, he becomes top Spartan IV trainer dude and whatnot. But in-game, I was pretty disappointed in his performance

[nimble laurel]

@versed helm same could be said about Jorge as he was an s2

[spring spindle]

Also is Jun supposed to be Russian? Or Russian-like since he's not from Earth?

couldn't ever nail down his accent

[nimble laurel]

@spring spindle no idea only one I know of by memory is Jorge cause he's hungarian

[dense pulsar]

If you transplanted a company of Spartan IVs and put them on Reach, do you think the tide of battle would change?

[last anchor]

300 Spartans plus the existing S-IIs on hand?
Maybe.

But the Covenant dropped the hammer on Reach.

[versed helm]

No. 4s are the weakest since the armour does the heavy lifting

[nimble laurel]

@dense pulsar it wouldnt change by much I think it was echartsladder who did a video saying even if infinity was at reach it would have still fallen and even having 1000 spartan 4s wouldn't have done much either since the covies had the numbers advantage

[unique rune]

The UNSC might be able to hold out a couple hours longer but even then it'd just be a matter of time before the Covenant burned it all to glass.

[dense pulsar]

What would it take for the UNSC to win on Reach?

[marsh gazelle]

so why did Cortana not hunt down the Covenant/Banished when she has control over forerunner weapons?

[nimble laurel]

For the unsc to win tbh they would have still lost in the number of ships and personnel destroyed and killed even if they made the covenant retreat

[marsh gazelle]

Ok i'm very confused. Echo is talking like Humanity is almost extinct

[nimble laurel]

If it wasn't for the great schism humanity in my opinion would have been destroyed

[halcyon maple]

so apparently Weapons (new Cortana) can smell through sensors in chiefs armor she said “you smell fine”. I refuse to believe that. There is no way Chief dosent have the worst swamp a*s in the galaxy dawg.

[sour dirge]

Not being outgunned, outnumbered, and have like thousands more Spartans

[scarlet linden]

Maybe Gen 3 has inbuilt Deo spray

MasterChief: Falls from space in Mk 6 Armor and survives in Halo 3

In Halo Infinite

Atriox: Lemme just throw him off the balcony, that should do the trick...

[burnt pulsar]

Make that spartan II’s too

[acoustic aspen]

Prewar there were 39 billion humans, postwar there are 14 billion scattered across the orion arm, some falling under the UEG, some not. Either way they are endangered. Even with Humanity winning the war, covenant separatist fleets were more than a match for most human fleets, and if a separatist fleet wanted to glass human planets... they would long before help could arrive.

[marsh gazelle]

You mean Astartes? Space Marines FTW!

[upbeat grove]

Mendicant BigAss

[vernal notch]

If only humanity didnt suck when it came to fighting aliens

[upbeat grove]

Mendicant sucked reallll good

[vernal notch]

Big succ

[acoustic aspen]

Only in space, on land humanity won nearly every engagement. forcing the covenant to glass worlds they couldn't actually take.

[vernal notch]

They really should've changed naval tactics, or perhaps created some sort of plasma-ballistic combination

[lone owl]

im confused, humanity couldve won reach if they did what they did to the long night of solace. the entire fleet was bunched up

[lone owl]

like when the long night of solace was destroyed by jorge and noble 6, same thing coulve been done but with maybe a ccs instead of a corvette?

[unique rune]

That strategy only worked because it was a single ship and its small support complement. It’s not going to scale up to a fleet of over 300.

[stable flower]

When it came to technology. 500 years in the future and they have barely any energy weapons or shields on their ships.

[lone owl]

thats true i forgot that what we saw in the games was not all there was

ur right

[pliant wharf]

yoooooo

[quartz ingot]

im gonna bring it up

jorge is alive and i will die on that hill

[unreal ridge]

how

[quartz ingot]

it was literally just a slipspace drive

[unreal ridge]

yes a slipspace drive

that exploded

[quartz ingot]

it literally just teleported everything away what do you mean

[unreal ridge]

no it didnt it destroyed the middle of the ship

[quartz ingot]

it teleported the middle of the ship away it didnt destroy it

it detached it from the rest of the ship

[unreal ridge]

no it didnt

[quartz ingot]

u r wrong

[unreal ridge]

ok

according to like 2 sources he got sent into slipstream with no way out

which pretty much makes him dead

[quartz ingot]

how do you know he was sent into slipstream

it would have had to have been underpowered

[unreal ridge]

well

its on halopedia. and id still like to do more research on it rather than just saying the first thing i see

look up jorges wiki page and read a bit

[scarlet hinge]

the writers have said plenty of times that he's dead

[unique rune]

Slipspace drives also aren't just simple "it teleports thing away".
Especially human drives.
Between the radiation emitted by the drive and the tons of micro-black holes it'd be ripping into reality, he probably would've died instantly.

And even if he did survive, he'd be ripped to bits by slipspace itself.

[gritty gazelle]

👀

[quartz ingot]

what about when chief survived the exploding ark

[unique rune]

...He was inside of a ship that's rated to withstand slipspace travel?

Not standing right next to an unshielded, unaligned slipspace drive deliberately placed to break things.

[quartz ingot]

but is it not possible that the slipspace drive could have made the full jump?

[unique rune]

what

[quartz ingot]

the one jorge set off

[unreal ridge]

the drive was meant to do alot of damage not make a full jump

[valid hemlock]

He'd dead, get over it

[quartz ingot]

and unless it was underpowered it could have done both

[unique rune]

What jump would it complete? It has no propulsion of its own. Slipspace drives only break into slipspace, a vessel has to travel through under its own power.

[valid hemlock]

Even if there was a succesfull jump jorge would've still died because of air supply

[unique rune]

It'd make an entry portal and maybe an exit portal but Jorge would've just died if he tried to go through.
Assuming he didn't get immediately get killed by the drive powering up and making a portal.

[vagrant python]

Yeah. And don’t ships need special shielding to go through slipspace? Those are ships built for war and still need special shielding or else they’d be torn to shreds. Even the didact’s ship had them

[unique rune]

Shielding or otherwise some form of structural reinforcement, yeah.

[vagrant python]

So Spartan armor would definitely not hold up

Speaking of dead

Spoiler for infinite so I will cover it

||atriox is revealed to be dead at the very beginning and I don’t know how to feel about that||

[stable flower]

||I can't believe they Jul'd him.||

343 gets on my nerves when they do stuff like that.

[gray sedge]

infinite intro spoilers ||in the intro it appears that atriox died taking out the infinity, he basically had no where to go||

[vagrant python]

||They really shouldn’t have done my boi like that. He was so cool in HW2||

[gray sedge]

|| they replace him with Escharum the one-eyed Monke and Jega the badass||

[marsh gazelle]

||is the aribiter still alive?||

[near tide]

||damn, atriox died||

[sullen ridge]

not shielding necessarily

unsc ships pre shielding were lead lined

with a lot of lead

[vagrant python]

Either way Spartan armor is nowhere built enough

So Jorge definitely would’ve been disintegrated at best

[silk adder]

So what events played out between halo 5 and halo infinite?

[misty comet]

Jorge dead.

will be missed bud

[acoustic aspen]

Actually… he was… he had to manually activate the slip space drive… he was standing next to it.

[unique rune]

Yeah, I know Jorge was. I was referring to how the Chief's situation at the end of Halo 3 was nothing like what 052 had to do.

[modern gale]

What is the purpose of the "wings" on the back of spartan armor? it was shown to be detachable in MK VII concept art but idk the purpose of this

[minor bluff]

what happens to Sadie after ODST?

[rigid jasper]

prolly dies.

new mombasa = no bueno

keep in mind the audio logs were pre-slipspace inside the city
pre glassing
pre a lotta stuff

a lot of ways for her to get offed

3 iirc

[minor bluff]

3 or reach

[unique rune]

She helps the UNSC as Vergil’s handler after the war. They end up on Luna at some point and after the Created takeover they get saved by some of Alpha-Nine’s members.

[minor bluff]

oh cool

[swift shale]

Hey, without direct spoilers for me, does the game explain how Atriox or however you spell his name, even got to the Infinity and how that battle even started? Or is it in a book somewhere?

[stable flower]

The EU has her now

[minor bluff]

NOT THE EUROPEAN UNION

frogto

forgot i cant swear

[modern gale]

whats the purpose of the back "wings" on modern mjolnir armor

please

[minor bluff]

what do you mean

the back bump things?

[unreal ridge]

i think they house the armors thrusters

[minor bluff]

what wings

[unreal ridge]

the things on the back of the armor

[minor bluff]

ok

[unreal ridge]

they might just be there for just protection

i know in h5 the thruster affects came out of the wing things

[north citrus]

I had a question for anyone who knows this kind of stuff but why are spartans getting weaker with every model? That's how I feel it is and it seems like that.

[minor bluff]

Because, the meta for developing spartans went from "Make 100-200 strong supersoldiers" to "make hundreds of weak supersoldiers cheaply to buy time"

[unreal ridge]

theyre getting cheaper. i know that spartan 3s were pretty much just a cheaper down grade of spartan 2s

[minor bluff]

the 2s were expensive as hell

[unreal ridge]

yeah

[minor bluff]

the 3s were made cheaply

and the 4s are just kinda there ig

[unique rune]

Spartan-IIIs are supposed to be about on par with the S-IIs, they just got issued cheaper armor that enhanced their strength less.

[minor bluff]

their augmentations are weaker too

[unique rune]

They are not

[versed helm]

how does something enhance their strength less

[minor bluff]

THEY ARE TOO

[tight scroll]

S2s had more physical augments

[north citrus]

What was the first generation of Spartan like then?

[tight scroll]

Like bone implants

[versed helm]

Orion

[tight scroll]

S3 and 4 had more chemical augments

[minor bluff]

The s3s had drugs instead of drugs and fancy augments

[unreal ridge]

sargent johnson was a spartan 1

[versed helm]

Basically IVs but more dangerous

[minor bluff]

random soldiers who got basic augmentations

so basically spartan 4s

[unique rune]

Say what you want, canonically the S-III augmentations were just as effective as those of S-II.

[minor bluff]

they got less augments tho

[unique rune]

No they didn't.

They were chemically induced instead of invasive physical surgery.

[tight scroll]

S4s always get dumped on

[north citrus]

Also what made ODST stronger? Just intense training like in real life special forces?

[tight scroll]

Better armor too

[unique rune]

More or less.

They're still just normal people.

[minor bluff]

training and armor

[unique rune]

Their body armor is maybe a little better than standard UNSC BDUs but it doesn't enhance strength or anything.

[north citrus]

My friend said that the latest spartans (the ones in infinite) resemble ODST more than spartans from previous games

[versed helm]

They're Spartan IVs

[unreal ridge]

well, most of them are odsts that were chosen to become spartans

[versed helm]

They're more human than their previous generations

[north citrus]

What are the flood

[versed helm]

Zombies

[unreal ridge]

the worst thing to ever exist

[north citrus]

It's like a parasite isn't it?

[unreal ridge]

yeah

[north citrus]

Hive mind as well

[versed helm]

A gravemind

[unreal ridge]

and possibly the smartest thing to exist

[north citrus]

How?@

[versed helm]

They were

[unreal ridge]

im pretty sure that when they infect someone they gain all the stuff that person knows

might be wrong about that

[north citrus]

I think I've heard about that

[unreal ridge]

so like if they infect a pilot of human vehicles they would be able to fly those vehicles

[north citrus]

I see, thank you for your assistance

[cosmic river]

now that it is today I was able to measure the ship, it is approximately 450 meters long, so the one in the skybox must be scaled way up

that said, the windows are still huge lol

[stable flower]

Look at Halo 2 for example

[serene pulsar]

Thank you 343 for making Chief feel REALLY heavy in this game

If I never got the sense that he was a walking tank in the past games, I sure do now

[ebon coyote]

ok i have to ask...because i havent played the campaign and i was really upset when i heard...is the infinity lost with all hands aboard??

i mean did they REALLY do her and her crews like that??

we all know the story of the HMS hood right??

this cannot end well for the banished

[stable flower]

||Like the First Order did the New Republic||

[ebon coyote]

le sighs

im downloading the campaign now

but DARN IT

i suppose the Banished never saw what the British did to the Bismarck after she killed the HMS Hood

this...could be fun to watch lol

in the immortal words of bobby boucher

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-open-up-some-whoop-ass-water-boy-football-adam-sandler-gif-17449869

Rest in Peace Infinity...you deserved better than you got

https://tenor.com/view/youbroketheship-alanrickman-galaxy-quest-gif-4934840

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-quest-you-will-be-avenged-avenged-gif-13417599

[cinder ore]

Anyone can explain me the story of halo since Halo 4, it was the last halo I played 🗿

[gleaming turtle]

you're not wrong about that

[tacit charm]

a really annoying enemy

[lethal nymph]

Only a galaxy consuming parasite

Not much

[serene pulsar]

All hands except the well known characters lol

[vagrant python]

From some different lore and trailers, the wings were jet boosters. At least on the modernized Mk6 from halo 4

[vagrant python]

Right on the money. The flood gain intelligence by subsuming other intelligent life forms. There’s actually a terminal in haloCE that gives you a cutscene that’s pretty chilling. It’s captain keys’ experience being subsumed into the protogravemind. Creepy stuff

[honest vine]

So

Halo infinite spoilers allowed or no?

I have many questions

[burnt pulsar]

Go to #485883236430512168 for that

[honest vine]

Kk thank you

[ivory stump]

What events are in the two Halo mobile game? I mean Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike?

[versed helm]

can someone explain to me why the elites are back in infinite? when did they make up with the brutes?

[stable flower]

These Elites are part of the Banished

[versed helm]

yeah i understand that but when did the brutes like the elites that betrayed the covenant again?

[swift seal]

Most of them are mercenaries I think

The elites, I mean

[minor sky]

Iirc Assult is some Palmer focused stuff and Strike is litterally just in-universe training sims. I think. Idk I didn't play them

[versed helm]

How old is masterchief?

[sour dirge]

About 50 years old in Infinite

He was born March 7, 2511 and Infinite takes place in 2561

[spice compass]

in halo 4

you can how old he is

when they show a little bit of his face

[somber notch]

Do any books cover the death of Spartan 6?

[cloud trellis]

question is halo infinte right after shadows of reach?

[ebon coyote]

quick question...is it just me or does anyone else wanna yeet brohammer off a cliff?? lol

[split flax]

He’s like 50 technically. But take off a few years for cryo.

[silk adder]

So what events took place between halo 5 and infinite?

[versed helm]

They're mercenaries

In Rise Of Atriox it shows him hiring the shipmaster

Between HW2 and infinite he also hired Jackal pirates

[autumn shale]

I guess the created were losing and cortana teamed up with atriox to fire the ring or something like that

[versed helm]

Atriox wouldn't team up with her tho

[autumn shale]

But she betrayed atriox and sacrificed herself to destroy part of the ring

[versed helm]

He doesn't hate humanity

[unique rune]

Halo Canon did a 25-ish minute video on what we do know of the events between 5 and Infinite, it’ll probably do a better job than a text summary here.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0OCNqXqZw

[silk adder]

Thanks my guy

[keen adder]

Hey guys was wondering if anyone has any lore on hanbrigar.

[gritty gazelle]

Crazy how I always miss the conversations about 3s

Unlucky

[versed helm]

"One time I watched a Brute punch a human so hard, their head exploded!.. I laughed so hard til I threw up.. that is all" -Comms Grunt

[elder zodiac]

So when did atriox die

[versed helm]

#485883236430512168 for that

[nimble laurel]

@versed helm same with jackals you can actually understand them and don't think that's considered a spoiler lol

[sterile dragon]

It's wonderful

[vagrant python]

Elites actually sound like elites again

They have that regal flare in their voices and movements and it is so cool

[bronze schooner]

And the Grunts sound better too

[vagrant python]

Definitely

They have their classic voices

[bronze schooner]

Jackals didn’t come from an insane asylum

[vagrant python]

Do skirmishers have voices?

[bronze schooner]

Nah, they just yell and squawk to my knowledge

[vagrant python]

Ah. Still reach skirmishers.

It’s still cool though how the skirmishers returned

Even though they’re more racist than the jackal

[bronze schooner]

They did? Cool

[vagrant python]

Ye

But yeah elites sound look better than they ever have

Don’t know what caused the change but it doesn’t matter to me because these are true elites

[bronze schooner]

Look like the Halo 2 Anniversary elites

[vagrant python]

But better

Even the voices are better

Like Chak Lok. His voice is smooth as butter

[nimble laurel]

You know I would love to see a sharquoi in halo because if one could take out 50 odsts and they were a weapon of last resort that would have been used by the covies on earth that would be pretty nice to go up against or maybe not lol

[bronze schooner]

I think a couple were used in New Mombasa

[vagrant python]

But we were too busy destroying a scarab

[bronze schooner]

Yeah, and searching for our team

[nimble laurel]

Can't remember but think they could be used as a banished weapon like in halo envoy

[bronze schooner]

They were mostly in the outskirts I think, near the tan crumbling buildings

[placid locust]

Yes

[echo glade]

Question: how did we go from random jumps to escape cortana to fighting the "banished" on a UNSC ship outside of zeta halo?

[placid locust]

Becuase whenever you add 2 to 3 you get 5

Something like that

[nimble laurel]

Shhhhh don't say anything they think we won't notice lol