#lore-and-universe

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gray sedge
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And buggers

sullen ridge
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huragok less so

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since they are non hostile

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plus pretty much enslaved af

gray sedge
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I mean probably very few hate the lekgolo worms

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Since they are worms

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And are hard to discriminate

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So Grunts were Lowest class of society to Covenant and most of its remnants including the banished, and social Outcasts to humans due to their role in the war . The only groups who treat them right are the Swords of Sanghelios and the Created

sly canyon
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I heard their was someone called kilo who is the strongest in the universe

twilit linden
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Absolutely not lol

sullen ridge
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time to wake up from your dream thinkingchief

burnt pulsar
versed helm
twilit linden
versed helm
versed helm
twilit linden
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Haha all good

versed helm
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Would this be correct:” SII Jorge 052” be lore accurate?

burnt pulsar
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not really elites since the swords of sanghilios are allies with the UNSC (idk how to spell it) but the majority of people would treat them bad even though elites are much nicer than the rest of the covenant

twilit linden
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Has anyone figured out why Halsey named the program the Orion project? Out of all names. Why Orion?

burnt pulsar
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i mean Orion is a greek name and spartans are greek so yea

versed helm
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Are freelancers lore now as well since 343 has RVB eggs in game?

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That and bungie

burnt pulsar
versed helm
twilit linden
burnt pulsar
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i mean all the multyplayer gamemodes have lore and they are all simulations so i think its just some spartans messing around

versed helm
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Lmao ok

burnt pulsar
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or propaganda for the UNSC

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sullen ridge
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wargames are sims to train spartans

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Palmer mentioned the once during spartan ops

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sullen ridge
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somewhat

burnt pulsar
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Also I think that fiesta is to train Spartans to work with any loadout and vehicle

stable flower
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Spartan Assault showed that Infinity had a simulation that involved fighting the Flood

burnt pulsar
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They had many spartan teams and many divisions

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True but look how they updated it

unique rune
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I mean
how would you prepare for ancient alien space robots teleporting onto a ship with absolutely no warning

sullen ridge
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nope

unique rune
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A situation like that is going to be chaotic no matter how much preparation you put into it

sullen ridge
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in fact not

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infinity didn't return for 6 months after the new Phoenix incident

stable flower
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This.

unique rune
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They… didn’t?

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Those are new Promethean constructs produced after the events of Halo 4

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That or they would’ve been pulled from other Warrior-Servant installations

burnt pulsar
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Ummm the diadact and the covenant moved them as troops

sullen ridge
unique rune
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…Produced by Cortana after she took over the Domain?
How else?

burnt pulsar
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Not all the ships were destroyed

burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
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production needs a composer tho

unique rune
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I think there’s some lore thing about the Created’s Prometheans not actually being manufactured using composed souls

burnt pulsar
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Yes and no

unique rune
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It’s a bit strange but I don’t recall for sure

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Someone involved in the Spartan-IV program interrogated Halsey over what core elements of the Spartan-II program made them successful

burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
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imagine if it's jun

burnt pulsar
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Is it just me or does it seem that the commanders in halo infinite are much nicer now

unique rune
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It would be very strange for it to be Jun, considering as a Spartan-III he’d already have some idea of what makes Spartans special.

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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But why would he be the one interrogating Halsey over the Spartan-IIs?
He’s already had direct first-hand experience with one iteration of the Spartan program, so he’d have a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn’t.

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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Jun’s main role in the project is in recruitment and administration for the S-IVs so I dunno what he’d be doing interrogating Halsey.

Considering RADM Musa-096/Ghanem was also directly a part of Spartan-II I can’t imagine they’d have much to gain from A266 doing the interrogation either.

sullen ridge
unique rune
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A position which is… primarily dealing with administrative work.

stable flower
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That explains the suit and tie

burnt pulsar
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Is there any lore for the Razorback yet?

burnt pulsar
humble yacht
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It is a troop transport

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Just uparmored compared to the classic troop hog

burnt pulsar
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Yea I know that but what is its significance in the UNSC when it was tested and stuff

humble yacht
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

unique rune
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There’s not really much lore to it other than it being an uparmored ‘Hog, unless you count the one mention of a vehicle called the Razorback in ilovebees.

humble yacht
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Check halopedia

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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what

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And also the Razorback has a more sleek design and it looks like it would be faster at first glance

sullen ridge
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razorback looks a lot more bulkier

unique rune
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It’s… really not that much more sleek than the M12 considering it’s basically just an M12B with a huge chunk of armor bolted to the hood.

sullen ridge
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fits less than scout hog tho

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stable flower
sullen ridge
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don't think a random burglar will shoot plasma mortars at you

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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The UNSC and Insurrection were only at a stalemate because going around and indiscriminately blowing up Insurrectionists would be a pretty bad idea when you consider most of them operated in population centers where otherwise normal citizens lived and worked

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If it gets to the point where the Innies are escalating to bringing in MBTs that’s waaaaaay past a police department’s pay grade.

stable flower
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I don't think there are insurrectionist groups active on Earth, but if there are, the government has the advantage.

unique rune
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Razorbacks are something the NMPD would get as leftover military surplus, not developed specially for them.

burnt pulsar
burnt pulsar
unique rune
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There are ways to prepare for alien invasions and sticking more armor plating on a space jeep is… probably not one of them.

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Especially when said alien weapons can easily melt through that armor plating.

burnt pulsar
chrome nacelle
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Not when its vibranium or adamantium

unique rune
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You could do the same with any old Warthog

Or a city’s existing public transport infrastructure if it hasn’t been utterly ruined, just like what happened in Mombasa.

burnt pulsar
keen snow
chrome nacelle
keen snow
burnt pulsar
unique rune
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…Why?

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Without the added armor a Warthog can accelerate quicker and move faster, which is a lot better protection against plasma weapons than heavy metal plating is

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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In gameplay, where things are fudged for the sake of entertainment and balance?

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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That doesn’t make it an accurate point of reference though

burnt pulsar
warm solstice
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Did we ever find out what happened to the spartans who got teleported into the shield world? I can't remember what book I read it in.

burnt pulsar
unique rune
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I assume you’re thinking of Blue Team and the surviving members of Team Saber

chrome nacelle
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They got out, such as Fred, Linda, and Kelly

warm solstice
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Was is Ghosts of Onyx?

unique rune
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Yeah, they went through the slipspace portal to Onyx as Kurt-051 sacrificed himself to buy them time

chrome nacelle
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Yes, had my favorite non-game Spartan in it

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Pfft, Kurt is a punk compared to Wil

warm solstice
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RIP my boy Kurt, went out like a champ

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I remember the quote, "I think I got clipped"

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And his entire like abdomen was missing lol

burnt pulsar
burnt pulsar
chrome nacelle
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Sorry, neither of them fought 2 hunters in unarmed combat, killing one before dying, that's where my bar is set lol.

warm solstice
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The biggest went out with a bang was Jenkens

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Well, I guess McKay

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Just detonates an entire ship, to stop Jenkens from getting out

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Man, that book was so good

burnt pulsar
warm solstice
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All the Jenkens monologues, and Keyes were so good

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Lmao, that elite hunter Chief literally all book

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Man, now I want to read that book again

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The one Marine who talks about surrendering, so the rest of them just tie her up and let her get captured

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Then she just leads the Covenant directly to them lmao. "You promised you'd let me go!"

burnt pulsar
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But can we all agree that Chips dubbo is a precursor disguised

warm solstice
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Just instantly kill her

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Chips, and the marine that Chief found inside the instillation

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Both badasses

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Even Chief was like, How the hell did a random marine make it so far

burnt pulsar
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But also Chips was in Old Mombasa and on the ark at the same time

warm solstice
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True lol

burnt pulsar
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And also he appears in multiple missions even after you see him die

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Wait what if Craig, Chips Dubbo, and Mister Chief are all related in some way?

unique rune
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I mean… it’s exactly what’s shown in the flashback scenes?

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There’s not much that much depth to them.

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Not sure what the question here is supposed to be

warm solstice
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Damn, I can't find that part in The Flood book

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Chief comes across a dead marine, pretty far into the underground of Halo

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He says he would have made a good spartan or something

unique rune
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Sounds like the bit where he finds Sgt. Marvin Mobuto in the Library when retrieving the Index.

warm solstice
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Oh maybe

unique rune
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If I recall correctly he says something like “I didn’t know you, Sarge, but you must’ve been one hard-[expletive] son of a [expletive].”

warm solstice
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Found it

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"The Chief looked down at the body and marveled at the fact that anyone
could make it that far. Even with his physical augmentation, and the
advantages of his armor, the Spartan was reaching the end of his endurance."

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Then he gives that eulogy, good memory

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You remember what book it was where Chief forgets to put the pin back in some weights, then some marines try to fight him, and he absolutely annihilates them?

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It must have been right after his last surgery, because he didn't know why all the weights were so light lol

unique rune
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That sounds like it would be from The Fall of Reach.

warm solstice
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Yeah, I think so

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That's the book I read most I think

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Man, I made it a point to read all of them, but then I like, forgot for a while, during the Forerunner books

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I look back now, and I'm behind like 15 books lol

bronze schooner
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Made it all the way to the end

warm solstice
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Sad to think Guilty Spark just left him there lol

burnt pulsar
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Do the grunts in Reach that are dancing have any relevance to lore?

warm solstice
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lol

terse lava
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No

warm solstice
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Besides grunts canonically just screwing around when they should be working

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They get bored really easily

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(most of them not all of them)

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I love the idea that the gravemind just talked Mendicant Bias into betraying the Forerunners

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Their smartest and most advanced AI

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Gravemind is just like, "Yo, come work with me"

burnt pulsar
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No I think at that point they had a keymind

terse lava
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It wasn't as easy as that, and thr Gravemind apparently gave proof to its words, as MB in Primordium outright says the Forerunners never followed the will of the Precursors

burnt pulsar
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And also there were many Graveminds so it’s just the floods shared hive mind talking really

warm solstice
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Lol, yeah I, I was just being simplistic

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I think he talked to him for like

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40 years

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straight lol

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Mendicant Bias did have one of my favorite quotes

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“What has taken you millennia to create, I erase in seconds.”

gilded mason
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This is Jul's Covenant

warm solstice
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I don't think Spartan Strike is cannon?

gilded mason
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We even see Brutes and Elites working together in the Banished

warm solstice
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I might be wrong

unique rune
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Both Spartan Assault and Strike are canon

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They're training simulation versions of some events that took place during and after the Human-Covenant War

burnt pulsar
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Umm the brutes were still out there

unique rune
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Because maybe some Jiralhanae packs joined whatever Covenant remnants were present during the events depicted in Assault and Strike?

Or it was fudged for training purposes by the UNSC to provide a varied range of combat scenarios?

burnt pulsar
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Yes that seems normal some brutes were still really religious and still believed in the great journey

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The covenant probably made sure to mark down where all the halo rings were while they had control over the ark

unique rune
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Is it really so hard to believe that a Covenant remnant group might've had Brute members deployed to a Halo ring?

burnt pulsar
gilded mason
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None that we saw

burnt pulsar
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That was a different remnant group too

gilded mason
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https://www.halopedia.org/Halo:_Spartan_Strike

Roland reveals that in 2557, a faint signal originating on Gamma Halo was detected by the orbiting Ivanoff Station. In response, a Headhunter was sent to investigate. It was discovered that the source was originating from the Conduit, and Jul 'Mdama's new "Covenant" has also detected the signal and is attempting to take the Conduit for themselves.

burnt pulsar
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For requiem

burnt pulsar
versed helm
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John and Cortana(have 117 kids finna name all of them x-ash-12's)should happy ending in infinite and we should move on to other characters. It would be nice playing a grunt for once. Imgine we do a prequel where they were nearly wiped out(I'm not if I'm right I saw that grunts we're home was attack or something)

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Btw what happened to lock?

sly hawk
eternal burrow
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So.

versed helm
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Yo I have an awesome idea.

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The Didact broke Chief's suit when he first met him.

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Then Chief had to wear marine armor.

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And THEN Chief gets the new suit on the Infinity.

errant tendon
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Do Spartans listen to music inside of their helmets?

versed helm
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What if.... In halo we make are own choices in story line

What if... Havio goes to jail.?

What if locks with Halsey and at the end of the game he shows up and takes the one MasterChef Cortana 2.0 and John goes back to Cortana and they both sacrifice themselves and the halo ends a new story arise and we play as grunt?

versed helm
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Imagine Humans vs Zombies in Halo.

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(not infection)

unique rune
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Because the only Spartan known to consistently reach those speeds is 087, it’d probably make for uninteresting cutscenes, and isn’t necessary for gameplay?

echo beacon
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Do elites go to theaters on the weekend, and watch movies on sanghelios like we do on earth?

fickle laurel
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I don't think there is even the concept of a "weekend" in sanghelios, they are a hard working folk. Unlike us pesky and lazy humans who don't even fight fairly.

versed helm
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Lol imagine anything nicknamed, "The Crimson Storm."

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Like a Banished Fireteam trained to kill Spartans.

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Or a legendary Banished ship.

keen snow
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well yes, but more they stopped working for the covenant due to the covenant imploding and ceasing to be a thing that exists.

versed helm
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Aliens invade zeta halo for 5-6 games and earth they send a cyborg and tall space soldiers Spartans to kill them and their leaders

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The cool cyborg falls in love with an A.I she goes rogue betrays him and yeah

fair hazel
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Where's our canon fodder

strong tinsel
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Idk

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Gone...

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Reduced to atoms

idle lintel
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sup

granite violet
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Will Spartan Locke die in infinite?

idle lintel
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no

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he is awesome

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Maybe Jun is in inf?

strong tinsel
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Locke is kinda boring in 5

versed helm
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As a member of The Banished.

sudden flower
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lore masters

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according to the lore master chief should be like 25 years old after halo 4

sullen ridge
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physically perhaps

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but it also means he has spent at least 22-23 years in cryo

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which is not probable

burnt pulsar
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burnt pulsar
# versed helm The Didact broke Chief's suit when he first met him.

Also that doesn’t make any sense because if he met the diadact really early and was on the infinity still wearing his suit and even after that he’s still wearing his suit also the Infinity has many spartan teams so they probably have extra armor in case a Spartans armor is destroyed

burnt pulsar
burnt pulsar
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The fall of reach is really the only book/movie that’ll tell you the age of Chief

burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
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more like digitized

chilly marsh
strong tinsel
burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
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lol

versed helm
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Does John 117 think Cortana is ummm.. you know?.. hypecat

idle lintel
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what

versed helm
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superintendent Ya know what i mean?...

versed helm
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That voice in my head.. sounds hot

surreal panther
versed helm
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Spoopy lady

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We need a supernatural threat now.

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Something even scarier than the flood.

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That's impossible to defeat by physical means.

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Like an ancient God older than the precursors.

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That just sounds horrible tbh
Preferably nothing "supernatural" should be in Halo

Also the Flood are plenty scary enough.

versed helm
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It really shouldn't.

carmine sleet
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The closest thing to an unstoppable, Lovecraftian threat Halo has is the Precursors but they are definitely not going to be something we fight in a Halo game. Trying to introduce something even more powerful than that wouldn't work at all

versed helm
carmine sleet
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Like, Halo is definitely not in need of something like that

versed helm
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That's scarier than the flood but turns out to be Mendicant Bias.

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XD

carmine sleet
# versed helm What about an ally?

Didn't need to tag me and having something like that working alongside the UNSC would just would make all conflicts feel pointless if we're working with something that could just solve it with what is basically a finger snap

versed helm
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Mendicant Bias cured itself btw.

tacit charm
carmine sleet
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Mendicant Bias was never more powerful than the Precursors and is also dead

versed helm
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In the forerunner ship.

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Oh wait...

carmine sleet
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Again, didn't need to tag me and Mendicant is dead

versed helm
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Yeah it's alive.

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It sent Chief to the Didact's Homeworld.

tacit charm
versed helm
tacit charm
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meh

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seen bigger

carmine sleet
versed helm
carmine sleet
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I told you to stop tagging me twice already

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And again, that's not explicit confirmation

versed helm
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:[

versed helm
tacit charm
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bruh

versed helm
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Wait a minute.

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The Flood ARE Lovecraftian horror.

carmine sleet
# versed helm It's HiddenXperia.

Ok, final time I'm gonna ask, if you tag me again, I am gonna block you. And HiddenXperia is known for twisting details of the lore, often to try linking things to the Flood

tacit charm
versed helm
carmine sleet
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And you tagged me again

versed helm
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Examples?

tacit charm
versed helm
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Halo needs space battles.

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Like a level where you control a ship.

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*command

tacit charm
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go read the books then or play fleet battles

versed helm
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And command other ships too.

tacit charm
versed helm
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Has anyone got killionare x killionare?

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Honestly, the Librarian seems more of a likely candidate to be transporting the Forward Unto Dawn (Considering how Chief is nearly essential to her needs) and the Spirit of Fire around but I don't know her range of abilities/we probably won't ever learn who's responsible

carmine sleet
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I would say less the Librarian herself and more the essences left behind, but even then, we don't even know if there was one on the Ark that could've done that

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But I would say that makes more sense given that she was hopeful that the Ur-Didact would've been able to recover from what happened to him during the Forerunner-Flood War after she put him in his Cryptum

versed helm
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yeye

carmine sleet
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That does raise the question of did she leave any essences on the Ark though? It'd make sense if she had at least put a plan in motion that put one there

twilit linden
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She probably did leave something. And Chief would know about it since the Librarian helped him out

wispy prawn
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I need some help from someone who has read the books. I finished Halo: Last light 5 minutes ago and I’m starting Halo: Retribution but it says something about Halo: Fractures.

“The events of this novel take place in December 2553, approximately five months after the discovery of an archeon-class ancilla in Halo: Last Light, and two months after Veta Lopis’s Ferret Team is imperiled in the Halo: Fractures story “A Necessary Truth.”

Do I need to read Halo: Fractures?

surreal panther
fading tartan
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Honestly same here, the flood missions always gave me nighmares so i needed my brother to play them for me 🥲

tacit charm
surreal panther
tacit charm
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General Kenobi

surreal panther
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Why did I think that wasn’t gonna happen

surreal panther
fading tartan
surreal panther
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I’m forcing him to play the infinite campaign

twilit linden
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The flood is an interesting creature and playing against them on legendary solo is a pain. Makes you use critical thinking

twilit linden
tacit charm
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well

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unless its ce flood is always easy to deal with

versed helm
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I hope at some point we have like a flood infected Spartan mini-boss

tacit charm
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h4 infection

surreal panther
wispy prawn
twilit linden
surreal panther
twilit linden
surreal panther
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Dose work

twilit linden
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Can’t beat the classic shotty

tacit charm
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:C bots

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im basing my opinions off laso cause 2/3 was a god send for spawning flood/ ce stop pouring flood in a 3 meter corridor

versed helm
surreal panther
twilit linden
surreal panther
tacit charm
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halo 2 shielded sniper flood

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or prophet of regret on laso

real pebble
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So I just got done reading the fall of reach comic, which as far as I know is just the novel put into comic form, and I just can not understand how the book and the game can both be canon, the pillar of autumn never even goes down to reach nor does it have any time to anyways, also Cortana is always in the pillar of autumn so how’s she also on reach in the game

versed helm
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Imagine the flood managing to control a scarab lol

tacit charm
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ah yes linda totally got stabbed by an energy sword rather than getting knocked over by a plasma pistol

twilit linden
surreal panther
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I have not played ce or halo 2 soooo ima just get master chief collection

surreal panther
tacit charm
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frank hmm i wonder

twilit linden
versed helm
wispy prawn
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Is there anyone who has read the halo ferret series I need help

real pebble
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But everyone else says they’re both canon…

tacit charm
real pebble
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Yeah

tacit charm
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they are

real pebble
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But how?

tacit charm
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because re release of the fall of reach

real pebble
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Oh, they redid it?

tacit charm
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more or less

surreal panther
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I think noble 6 is the most loyal Spartan

tacit charm
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nah mickey is the most loyal

surreal panther
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Noble 6 stayed on the same planet there squad died on

tacit charm
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could of hid in a cave just saying

versed helm
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Don't

sullen ridge
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only one that would've been any good would be castle base if he had decided to hide

tacit charm
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ik it was a jk

versed helm
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k good lmao

tacit charm
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or is it

left nebula
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spartans never die

tacit charm
sudden flower
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spartans never die

versed helm
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Cocortana cortuna

surreal panther
left nebula
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shh

versed helm
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Remember that one time 300 Spartans died in one day lul

sudden flower
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noble 6 lived

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legend says hes still fighting the covenant on reach

burnt pulsar
surreal panther
tacit charm
sudden flower
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tch heh a sword wont kill noble 6

surreal panther
burnt pulsar
sudden flower
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spartans never die

versed helm
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Elites never die

sullen ridge
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only place that would be well defended against the gassing was Castle base and most of viery was already glassed or in progress of being glassed so it would've been impossible for 6

burnt pulsar
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And also I think noble 6 wouldve been fine to die anyways after all he went through

tacit charm
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speaking of blood got to find out why the mantle's approach shields were so weak even by forerunner standards (yes ik the odp was peppering it but i have my reasons those odps were just weak asf)

burnt pulsar
real pebble
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So if they redid the fall of reach novel to fit better with the game what did they change, I read the plot summary on the wiki but it seems about the same

sullen ridge
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orbital platforms could go trough covenant shields

burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
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forerunner is quite an upgrade

tacit charm
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the reach ones for sure but the earth odps...

sullen ridge
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they all were the same

tacit charm
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eh

sullen ridge
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production standard didn't change much

tacit charm
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not really

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there were two models with different power outputs

burnt pulsar
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It was probably just a size difference

versed helm
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Didn't Orbital platforms MAC guns fire at like 2% the speed of light (I don't remember where I got that info from)

tacit charm
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4

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those were the reach odps

burnt pulsar
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They’re the same

tacit charm
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eh

sullen ridge
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all odps fire at 4%

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reach ones were rapid fire models

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that's the only difference

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they could spew out more slugs

versed helm
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Thats actually absurd lmao

burnt pulsar
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Wait can you call an enlarged MAC a Big MAC

sullen ridge
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slugs up to 3000 tons fired at 4% speed of light

burnt pulsar
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Why didn’t they call super MAC’s Big Macs

sullen ridge
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legal reasonsuny

strong tinsel
burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
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ODP's got a few fatal points

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tho

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first of all terrestial generators

burnt pulsar
tacit charm
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we dont know that for sure. theres two odp models, the Moncton (the ones you mainly see at earth) and the unknown variant which were at reach (and are likely the models that fire the 4% rounds).

versed helm
#

Big MACs firepower is actually ridiculous lmao

tacit charm
sullen ridge
#

all models fire at 4% speed of light

tacit charm
#

eh

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the reach ones do

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idk about the ones at earth

strong tinsel
#

Earth ones do it too

tacit charm
#

ik

versed helm
#

I'm assuming the Infinities MACs fire at the same amount?

burnt pulsar
#

No they were super macs

tacit charm
#

infinity fires at 25% speed of light

#

anyways

versed helm
#

Aight thats just pushing it way too far lol

strong tinsel
#

The moncton is basically a sniper rifle in space

burnt pulsar
eternal latch
burnt pulsar
strong tinsel
#

Yes

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The big MAC

eternal latch
#

i know it was a joke

versed helm
#

Chicken MAC

strong tinsel
#

From MACdonalds

sullen ridge
#

series i mac aren't like the heavy duty mk5 14d's

wispy prawn
#

I need help I finished Halo: Last light and I’m starting Halo: retribution and it says this

“The events of this novel take place in December 2553, approximately five months after the discovery of an archeon-class ancilla in Halo: Last Light, and two months after Veta Lopis’s Ferret Team is imperiled in the Halo: Fractures story “A Necessary Truth.”

Do I need to read Halo: Fractures I own both books I just don’t know the order I should be reading

Pls help I want to get going to finish by infinites release

burnt pulsar
versed helm
#

MACdonalds, get yer food in 0.0006 microseconds

tacit charm
# sullen ridge all models fire at 4% speed of light

cairo seem to had some difficulty taking out that carrier and no do not say that carrier was really tanky cause that would place that ship hundreds of times more powerful than a heavy cruiser and heavy destroyers or it makes you wonder why does the cov even use any other ships besides a carrier. do not also say its like our world where we have different class ships like no its literally the equivalent of using a canoe against a an u.s destroyer

burnt pulsar
strong tinsel
#

MACdonalds, get your food for the price a normal mac round goes

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So 0.0006 cents

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Backwards inflation

burnt pulsar
strong tinsel
sullen ridge
strong tinsel
#

Gamestop/EA when theres a 10% sale: increases the price 11%

sullen ridge
#

Nintendo asking full price for a 30 year old game

strong tinsel
#

Nintendo is doing a very impressive job, its the only game company that manages to stay alive and big only by game (console) sales

ionic flame
#

E

burnt pulsar
#

I don’t think we’re getting into halo lore anymore

strong tinsel
#

Ik

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Also-

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04B or 08

#

What do you prefer

versed helm
#

08

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Sounds better

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lul

strong tinsel
#

I prefer it to be called installation 04B since its a replacement rather than another addition to the array

humble yacht
#

Canonically it’s 08

#

04b is just a fan designation, even if it makes more sense

real pebble
#

Another question I have, in the reach game, why was the fragment of cortana so important, what info did she gain from the artifact? It wasn't the halo coordinates so what was it?

sullen ridge
#

it was a forerunner ship

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what they got from it was navigation data

real pebble
#

To where?

sullen ridge
#

the ring

real pebble
#

No

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They found that on an ancient rock on some other planet

#

Gotta look at the wiki real quick to see what planet exactly

sullen ridge
#

the data that cortana got from the vessel contributed to the discovery of 04

versed helm
#

Yo dudes what was the heavy frigate used before the Paris?

real pebble
#

During the battle of Sigma Octanus IV they found an ancient rock with forerunner inscriptions on it and cortana figures out it is a start map and is able to generate coordinates based on the info from the rock on Sigma Octanus IV

sullen ridge
#

the covenant got the location data from sigma octanus IV iirc

#

unsc only knew it was a starchart after cortana translated it using the data on the ship during the fall of reach

real pebble
#

So she was only able to translate it because of the data found on reach

sullen ridge
#

pretty much

real pebble
#

Got it

sullen ridge
#

which also led them to 04

real pebble
#

Alright that makes sense, still confuses me how exactly the game and the book lines up story wise tho

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Like why is the pillar of autumn about to leave reach not knowing anything is going on when there has been a war on the surface of Reach about a month before they got there lmao

twilit linden
#

Trying to do chronological order with the franchise is difficult lol

real pebble
#

wdym?

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I think one of the only problems with chronological order so far is reach, I have made like a mega list of all halo comics and games in chronological order

twilit linden
#

Yeah Reach is a strange one when it comes to the list lol.

real pebble
#

Just wish the game and novel fit together better

twilit linden
#

Agreed on that

vagrant lagoon
#

Hey, I just rewatched Halo: Legends for the first time in forever. Quick question, none of it is canon, right?

hybrid sierra
#

All of halo legends is canon except for the odd one out

vagrant lagoon
#

In the one with Daisy (sorry I don't remember all the shorts' names) their clones live on and replace their old lives, but I thought that the clones quickly deteriorated and died?

unique rune
#

Most of the clones did.

#

Some lasted longer than others.

vagrant lagoon
#

Hmm.

#

Was Daisy part of the same group of kids abducted by Dr. Halsey as John-117 was? Maybe if her group was later then their flash cloning tech might have been better by that point.

versed helm
vagrant lagoon
#

Ah. Hmm...

sullen ridge
#

some longer, some less

idle lintel
#

do u have a minute to talk about our Halo game?

vagrant lagoon
idle lintel
#

daisy

vagrant lagoon
#

lol

idle lintel
#

🦗 🎶

vagrant lagoon
#

I got it

last anchor
#

More importantly; her bear is in Infinite.

burnt pulsar
sullen ridge
#

they came from different upbrinings

#

leader of gray team being from slums

last anchor
#

Soren-066's dad was a conspiericy freak who lived out in the middle of nowhere.

#

If I remember right, Serin's mom was a drug addict.

#

They didnt even replace her with a clone, they just found where her mom was, shot her dead (as ONI do) and left her in a heap. No one asked questions. Vanished into the ether.

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Arthur's dad was some kind of buisnessman and was convinced something had happened to his kid. He roped Naiomi's dad into it too till he was killed at some point.

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Spartan-II yanked people from all over the outer colonies and some inner (Jorge was from Reach obviously, Randal from Earth of all places).

wheat dagger
#

in The Storm level on Halo, there is a canonical reason why Traxus workers supported the UNSC forces to destroy the Covenant AA gun? or they just did it for the lulz?

deft harbor
#

:warthog:

tight cloud
#

one thing that confused me in the halo universe was how the foruners didn't do a better job of containing the flood.

sullen ridge
#

well

#

you see

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they were too busy with humanity

#

not knowing everything

tight cloud
#

Not quite

sullen ridge
#

they were

tight cloud
#

They had already contained humanity and the other races (elites etc.) when they fired the rings

sullen ridge
#

ancient humans were trying to contain stop the flood, forerunners initially didn't know about the flood

#

no

#

not like that

#

ancient humans pré devolution

#

humans were at war with the flood earlier

tight cloud
#

yes

#

true

sullen ridge
#

because the powder that eventually became the flood was used to make a bird taste better

tight cloud
#

Yes

#

okay

unique rune
#

*make space dog things more friendly

sullen ridge
#

tastier too

#

wasn't it for eating

tight cloud
#

how did the flood graveming servive though

#

gravemind

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survive

sullen ridge
#

the one in 2?

tight cloud
#

yes

sullen ridge
#

that was an outbreak post firing

#

forerunners preserved some specimins

tight cloud
#

So the flood never really dies

sullen ridge
#

you starve them

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when they get to a scale it's uncontainable, that being their second to last / last stage

tight cloud
#

And the flood gravemind can reporduce

sullen ridge
#

no

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they don't reproduce

tight cloud
#

or pop up somewhere else

sullen ridge
#

a gravemind is just millions of bodies in a trenchcoat

tight cloud
#

something like that

sullen ridge
#

if there is sufficient sentient biomass to create one

tight cloud
#

anyway there is a gravemind in halo wars 2

sullen ridge
#

not a fully formed

tight cloud
#

yes

sullen ridge
#

was in the stage of being a proto

tight cloud
#

a poto gravemind

#

almost

sullen ridge
#

not a fully formed one

#

it was destroyed before it could be a genuine gravemind

tight cloud
#

how did it come to be though

versed helm
#

Spoiler alert she dies and had a daughter that is in halo infinite rn and masterchif has schizophrenia and misses Cortana and he passes out and you were a grunt the entire time before your kind was wiped out

#

343 should hire me

sullen ridge
tight cloud
#

I did

sullen ridge
#

it was what was left on high charity

tight cloud
#

I played it on legendary

sullen ridge
#

and banished that got infected

tight cloud
#

I though the gravemind was on a unknown planet

#

as for the biomass

sullen ridge
#

high charity in it's whole was infected

sullen ridge
tight cloud
#

I think that it needs some sort of sentiance to begin with

sullen ridge
#

yeah sentient biomass

tight cloud
#

I missed that then

sullen ridge
#

humans

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sangheili

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eg

tight cloud
#

Well think to the first gravemind

sullen ridge
#

anything with sufficient minerals in the body really

#

first one was the primordial

#

and that was pretty much a precursor In an intact state

tight cloud
#

those god like creatures and one of them turning into a gravemind

#

percursor there we go

sullen ridge
#

yes

#

precursors got the genocide treatment from forerunners

#

the surviving ones turned themselves into dust

tight cloud
#

anyway should you need a species like that to become a gravemind

tight cloud
sullen ridge
#

flood is technically precursor in origin, it being the precursor

#

there still exist a few

#

in a sorry state

tight cloud
#

I would like to see a game like that

sullen ridge
#

they appear in the rion forge novels

tight cloud
#

I have not read all of the halo novels

steady dune
#

I've only read fall of reach

tight cloud
#

I read a few a long time ago

#

but i have near competly lost all of the story

forest iron
exotic musk
gray sedge
#

So guys

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What to you think is more inhuman and cruel

#

Glassing or Orbital Nukes (remember that by the time of halo we have much more powerful nukes)

steady dune
#

it really depends on the magnitude for each method

strong ice
steady dune
#

but can't some complex organisms, not including humans, have a better chance at resisting radiation? @strong ice

#

i feel like an entirely glassed planet devoids all life sustainable

sullen ridge
#

a glassed planet is uninhabitable

steady dune
#

but a radioactive still can be!

sullen ridge
#

not just by the absurd amounts of radiation

#

soil and such basically become unusable and all

versed helm
#

Cockroaches would survive lol, as well as any underground life forms.

sullen ridge
#

and a glassed planet has to be reterraformed

#

depends on the heat

exotic musk
versed helm
#

oh god

sullen ridge
#

the unsc has a nuke that's bit worse than glassing

#

while gassing is just on the surface

#

a nova bomb does things differently

#

and one that was detonated in space shattered the moon of joyous exultation and made the plant itself uninhabitable

gray sedge
#

Discussion

steady dune
#

thats like deathstar threat level @sullen ridge far more deadlier than glassing and orbital nukes combined!

sullen ridge
#

if it exploded in atmosphere or even on the planet itself it could delete a huge chunk of a planet

steady dune
#

would it have been for safe for the unsc to utilize those bombs freely against the covenant during the human-covenant war? @sullen ridge

sullen ridge
#

one we know existence of

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others i can't remember

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it was on reach

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i think it

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actually 2

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gray team destroyed glyke with one

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and by destroyed as in not in one piece anymore

steady dune
#

as in it once existed, and now it no longer exists lol

sullen ridge
#

yep

#

thing is they were instructed to do that after the fall of reach

#

and then by the time earth got invaded they were ordered to go through with the endgame

#

to just kill a lot of sangheili officers responsible for glassed planets

#

and initially the bomb was meant for sanghelios

#

but it was too well defended

#

so they picked another sangheili controlled planet

#

buttt

#

they detonated the nova some time after the peace talks

#

they survived but prowler got damaged

#

and they drifted among the debris in cryo for 6 years

steady dune
#

gray team still alive??

sullen ridge
#

yep

steady dune
#

no way

sullen ridge
#

yeah

gilded mason
#

Nothing ever said they were dead.

sullen ridge
#

opposite even

#

read the books

#

they primed

#

not detonated it on the spot

gilded mason
sullen ridge
#

read envoy

#

yep

#

well there was originally a reason

gilded mason
#

Originally, yeah

sullen ridge
#

but that reason became void after the peace talks

#

they were cut off

#

can't blame them

#

last thing you hear on coms is earth is getting invaded by covies

#

then no more contact

steady dune
#

u think gray team will ever make cameo in future halo games?

sullen ridge
#

prob not

steady dune
#

yeaaa I agree

sullen ridge
#

they are working for oni with an interspecies squad

#

or what was it

steady dune
#

interspecies?

sullen ridge
#

and then again gray team has always been doing more wetworks type of missions

#

yeah

#

see it as a joint program

gilded mason
steady dune
#

like elites n spartans working alongside?

gilded mason
#

Yeah

steady dune
#

oh dopeee

sullen ridge
#

to get formally pardoned by our man them vadam

#

for blowing up an entire planet

#

damn the emperor would be proud

#

exterminatus

steady dune
#

that could set up for a potential stand alone game, something like halo odst with vadam as main protagonist liberating sanghelios

sullen ridge
#

too late for that really

steady dune
#

unless the sanghelios civil war is already over after the events of halo 5

#

aww man

sullen ridge
#

storm covenant was the major issue

#

all he gotta do is some cleanup up really

gilded mason
#

By the time H5 happened, Only one small region wasn't under SoS control, and then H5 ended that as well.

sullen ridge
#

sunaion was their last major stronghold

#

and SoS won that battle

steady dune
#

do you guys know any lore on human v insurrection? this is pre-covenant contact

#

im talking project orion aka spartan -1 program

sullen ridge
#

not much on that

#

think Johnson the only one of Orion project we know about

steady dune
#

cause I know dr.halsey mentions spartans were created in the first place to fight against human rebellion, but that issue was completely overshadowed when the covenant invaded humanity lol

versed helm
raw wraith
#

helloooo everyone, new here

versed helm
#

Moin

steady dune
#

sup

versed helm
#

Hru?

raw wraith
#

good playing fiesta rn

versed helm
#

Cool

#

You know anything bout Insurrectionist and early human covenant war?

sullen ridge
#

some stuff in contact harvest

versed helm
#

Ah so not so much

sullen ridge
#

nope

#

contact harvest is pretty much the beginning of the war

versed helm
#

Because me and two buddies write a fanfic set in Insurrection and early human covenant war

versed helm
raw wraith
#

not really actually, just joined to talk about halo

#

and not hear ppl complaining lol

versed helm
#

Ah well atleast you know that the covenant weren't innies that's way more than one of my buddies

#

When does infinite campaign release again?

raw wraith
#

the 8th

versed helm
#

Frick that's so long still

raw wraith
#

yaaaa but im excited for the open world gameplayyyy

#

its gonna be sicm

#

sick*

sullen ridge
#

semi open world mind you

#

it's not full open world just that mission areas are very large

raw wraith
#

really? hmm i didnt know

native berry
#

I’m very happy that a member of the silent shadow is in halo Infinite

reef nacelle
#

what happened to the arbiter?

unique rune
#

Busy dealing with Created problems on Sanghelios

reef nacelle
#

what is Created problems?

unique rune
#

Their existence in general, subjugating all life in the galaxy through force in the name of peace, etc.

cinder crypt
#

anyone familiar with the Halo: The Flood novel? I was wondering where (if at all) it is said that chief shot Zamamee. I know on several occasion they describe him fending off elites but which one is Zamamee?

versed helm
#

Is the fistful of arrows comic canon?

gilded mason
#

Nope

errant tendon
fickle ermine
#

Anyone here wanna catch me up on the Halo storyline?

terse lava
#

Depends where your current knowledge rests

twilit linden
fickle ermine
#

So from the begining

fierce pewter
cinder crypt
#

@twilit linden It's fairly early on. I wasn't sure if it was intended to be obvious and I just missed it but when I was reading they made it seem like the reader would understand why he wanted to go after 117 and it kind if flew over me. Thanks for the reply.

fierce pewter
cinder crypt
#

I know, I'm talking more specifically about him in the book when he was shot by John on the Pillar of Autumn.

#

The reference to a "shimmery, black clad elite" was shot by the assault rifle so it couldn't be him since Zamamee was shot with a pistol. So there had to be multiple spec ops elites on board right?

terse lava
#

@fickle ermine modern era, or the entire timeline?

fierce pewter
fickle ermine
#

Modern era

earnest notch
#

In term of planetary size, how big was the Greater Ark compare to the Lesser Ark (Halo 3 and Halo Wars 2)

cinder crypt
#

I mean it definitely might. There is another reference to an elite but it's not specified that it was a spec ops one. He was the one shot in the head. "The lead elite snarled as the powerful handgun rounds tore into the shielding around his head." I think this might be him but I figured the author would have been more specific so the reader knows it's him.

fickle ermine
#

Wait is Halo wars connected to the storyline?

terse lava
#

@fickle ermine yes

fickle ermine
#

Oh

unique rune
#

dude, if the novels contradicts the game, that part is not cannon.
That's... not how canon is treated with 343's handling of the brand.

earnest notch
#

yes HW1 took place before Reach and CE

fickle ermine
earnest notch
#

Though in HW2, did Red Team upgrade their Mark IV armor with Gen 2 Mark VI tech with energy shield and gelfoam

burnt pulsar
terse lava
#

More I think about it, may be best to check a YouTube video for the timeline, otherwise you will get a massive block of text here

#

@fickle ermine

analog marsh
#

I haven't touched halo since halo 3 way back in the day, so my lore is very rusty, anyone have any reccs for catching up with all the lore again?

fickle ermine
fickle ermine
#

Someone said watch a YouTube video

analog marsh
#

ah can't say i'm a fan of just watching videos

#

but i'll keep looking around, much more a fan of just reading it or podcasts

ocean sluice
#

Who was Serina based on?

terse lava
#

Just some woman

burnt pulsar
last anchor
#

Zamamee was presumably hit by a Marine rather than the Chief.

#

And then the Grunt that finds him uses that as an excuse to get his team off without going into the meatgrinder.

#

Chief doesnt actually meet Zamamee until the very end of the book. Hes the one Spec ops elite on the elevator with those grunts at the very end.
The one that is inevitably SPNKr'd, if youve been speedrunning the level.

burnt pulsar
cinder crypt
#

The wiki says that Zamamee inured him. At least he seemed to think so. I understand Yayap as well. That part I get. Maybe it's not meant to be a clear cut thing. Just kind of bugs me as I thought when rereading the chapter that it would stick out a bit more and be obvious. Thanks for the reply. @last anchor

terse lava
#

Only spec ops i recall injuring chief was on the Ascandant Justice

last anchor
#

This is Halo: The Flood. Oddities like this persist throughout it.
See; the use of the United States Marine Corps rallying cry for the entire UNSC.

#

Power loaders.
The spontanious gender-swap of a character during Truth and Reconciliation.

#

Several other oddities.
Marvin Mubunto.

#

Additionally; Chief hoofing it back to the weapon cashe just before the Wraith fight at the end of Two Betryals when everyone knows you can slip a ghost up over the side to help.

#

ALSO also; Chief having to go back despite wearing armor more than powerful enough to carry the added weight of a sniper, rocket launcher and M6D with ease presumably.

cinder crypt
#

I gotcha. Really appreciate the lengthy reply. I figured a lot of the "gamey stuff" would be kind of whatever in terms of canon. When getting to the part about him reflecting on his injury to yayap and trying to justify he reasoning to hunt the chief down, I just felt like I had missed an important part or something as it didn't stick out to me like I felt the author wanted it to. I didn't have a "Oh yeah, chief shot him and now he wants his revenge". Hope that makes sense and I wanted to see what the community thought.

versed helm
#

So what does the Domain actually look like?

#

I imagine it being an infinite expanse of White nothingness

terse lava
#

Appears to depend on the individual in question. The ur-didact was known to experience it as a series of hallways, while to the Chief, it looked like a cave

versed helm
#

What if the Gravemind actually corrupted the Domain?

gilded mason
#

Would be a waste of resources to make him different from the rest of them, especially when he's wearing a mask like that.
Had the sword he killed Truth with customized.
This iteration is the government that Thel leads.

#

Yes, you do. And they're different because different Spartans want to wear different armor.

ancient elm
#

Is the tenrai event armor a “canon” armor set?

gilded mason
#

Nah

ancient elm
#

Damn

gilded mason
#

He wasn't, no.

#

Ben discovered that the guy he was talking to completely fabricated the rebellion stuff on John's homeworld.

strong tinsel
#

Yes

fair hazel
#

@umbral canopy don’t make weird comments

umbral canopy
#

?? It's a legitimate question, her feet changed

fair hazel
#

Don’t troll around

umbral canopy
#

I resent the accusation

versed helm
#

So umm...

#

SPOILERS

#

SPOILERS

#

SPOILERS

fiery dome
#

Learn me. What is the zeta halo

tacit charm
#

a fat halo turned skinny

versed helm
#

Irrelevant until they fix halo infinite

strong tinsel
#

But it got damaged so they made it smaller and added it to the new array

astral field
#

12…

#

In what lore is this?

sullen ridge
#

forerunner saga

#

12 greater rings that were originally created on the greater ark

#

then 6 smaller neoteric rings

#

of the original 12 about 11 got destroyed

astral field
#

Not 7?

sullen ridge
#

there were at first 12 rings at 30000km diameter

#

then 6 smaller but deadlier ones got created

#

of those 12 original 11 got destroyed

#

think it was because of too much mass going through slipspace at once

#

zeta halo was the only one surviving of those 12 but heavily damaged

astral field
#

I see, I guess I get it
So the original lore was just tossed out?

sullen ridge
#

no

astral field
#

There’s no mention of 7 rings

#

I’m just trying to understand

#

I could unleash a landslide of contradictions that 343i introduced

#

They should have read the lore before making the game 🤷‍♀️

sullen ridge
#

have you read the forerunner saga?

#

i mean have you read the lore

astral field
#

I haven’t touched anything that 343i put out

#

Everything before though

sullen ridge
#

12 30000 km wide rings created on the greater ark
6 smaller ones on the lesser ark

#

greg bear his books are a good read

astral field
#

No, no thanks, nothing against you

#

There’s no substance to anything 343i puts out imo

#

I was in this house before 343i came in and started their demolition and attempted remodel, I know what’s changed, I know what’s out of place and not right, and I’ve said my piece

sullen ridge
#

what 343 has put out in books is quite good

#

and with how bungie is doing things now I'd rather not have them touch halo either

astral field
#

🤣 lool! True that!

#

I don’t think Halo is going to die with any dignity at this point, so might as well let it

#

Bungie thinks out their lore well though, I will say that much

sullen ridge
#

343 did too

#

but like d2 and it's massive content vaulting

#

dumping marty

astral field
#

I very much disagree, 343i didn’t think anything out

sullen ridge
#

who dumps Marty like that

astral field
#

^^^^

#

Don’t hurt our Marty!!

#

He’s precious cargo

analog marsh
#

bungie lore imo was best lore from what I can see so far, though I might revise that opinion

astral field
#

You mean for Destiny or when they still had Halo?

analog marsh
#

halo

astral field
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Aye

analog marsh
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but destiny lore is pretty good too from certain perspectives

astral field
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True, I would agree with that about Destiny lore

analog marsh
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I'm pretty familiar with the more esoteric lore from destiny like the sacred geometry, gnostic stuff, etc and it's always a trip to see how well they implement it all, relatively speaking to other games of course

astral field
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Absolutely agree with that

analog marsh
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only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is elder scrolls

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and that's mainly due to kirkbride

sullen ridge
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still, vaulting so much content that people paid for is a really stupid move

analog marsh
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oh yeah 100%

astral field
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Yeppers, real sour move

analog marsh
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I can see the logic to some degree in terms of bloat, but to just remove that content is kinda ridiculous, why not just spend more time to make a legacy version or something like MCC, eververse does well enough from what I understand

astral field
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Dropped the ball in so many ways with a universe that has an immense potential

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slowly looks at 343i

analog marsh
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crazy to think that bungie was free from activision and their monetization is somehow worse

astral field
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IKR!?!?

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They saw how Activison did it and just went “hold my beer”

sullen ridge
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there’s always EApostums

astral field
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EA led the way for the industry at this point

analog marsh
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I think once bungie went solo they realized that treating destiny like WOW = income drops during content droughts

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and that doesn't look too good when you can't lean on a bigger entity

sullen ridge
astral field
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Ya cause gambling

analog marsh
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I will say though, destiny in recent times has actually practiced good story telling

sullen ridge
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yeah but battlefront 2 crates gave you in game advantages while a normal skin doesn’t

astral field
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Pay to win?

analog marsh
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quick question for you guys lore wise, i've been out of the loop since halo 3, so what's the down under on the story since then?

sullen ridge
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bungie did halo reach

astral field
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Oof! You’ll hafta ask DEADGHOST, I don’t touch anything from 343i because I detest what they’ve done
So I can just tell you what they changed

sullen ridge
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a lot

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lol

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let’s see after 3 bungie did halo reach

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which is basically events before CE on the planet of reach

astral field
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And they are not spartan 3s

sullen ridge
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major unsc planet where a lot of the s2’s grew up and trained

analog marsh
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huh ok

sullen ridge
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noble team are spartan 3’s except for jorge who’s an s2

astral field
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Nuuu

sullen ridge
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well it pretty much shows the covenant invasion of the planet from start to the bitter end

analog marsh
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when you say bitter end do you mean the loss of the war?

sullen ridge
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nah

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loss of the planet

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reach got glassed

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5 of the 6 members of noble died

analog marsh
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rip

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I just picked up the MCC iirc it should have reach so I guess I got that to look forward to

sullen ridge
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kinda the saddest of the games

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but it’s really good

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especially with that looming sense of hopelessness and the impossible objective

analog marsh
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I remember that 4 was not that well received by the community, am I right in thinking that or am I misremembering?

sullen ridge
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4 was ok ish

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campaign of 5 was the most hated

analog marsh
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why was that?

sullen ridge
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just how all of it went

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more focus on osiris

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barely played as chief

versed helm
sullen ridge
brave shell
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Well, it made sense Bungie didn't want to feel restricted by a third-party writer's idea of the story. It was their last hurrah with Halo, they probably wanted to make it their own.

sullen ridge
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they retconned the majority of the book

humble yacht
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Not really

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Newer editions of TFoR have minor changes

sullen ridge
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the 2019 edition also is 124 pages longer

humble yacht
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That’s not a majority of the book

strong tinsel
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343 was trying to tie both together i believe

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Even though there are massive contradictions

unique rune
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More or less
Bungie didn’t care much for the novels

humble yacht
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Iirc Marty did an interview with either act man or Xperia and said that Bungie 100% did not like other people touching their franchise and largely ignored those novels

strong tinsel
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Act man had an interview with marty

humble yacht
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Xperia did too, don’t remember which interview they talked about that particular topic

lofty cape
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I like four and five cause it shows that master chief is becoming more and more human, but people don't like those games or don't even want to read the books because they want master chief to be a "big daddy green dude that kill bad guys"

burnt pulsar
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Is there any lore behind the eye looking thing on the new banished banshee in infinite?

humble yacht
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huh

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probably just some extra armor

sullen ridge
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and yes you could argue about halo 2 and arbiter playtime

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but it's different

sullen ridge
keen snow
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Like 5's main problem was Locke wasn't really developed as a character. By contrast, when we took control of the Arbiter in 2, we'd gotten a good 10-20 minutes of characaterization of him: his honor, his dismay of his failure, his still unbroken faith in the prophets and their promises.

stable flower
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I noticed their Banshee also shoots red fuel rods

versed helm
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Locke's character is that he has cool armour

outer haven
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:banshee:

neon moss
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im wondering how does the banished repair their equipment/ships? Are the huragoks working under them?

versed helm
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Yeah the banished employ huragok

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And probably a lot of their warriors know how to repair things after years of salvaging

keen snow
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They seem to work off salvage and scavanging... due to their past of yoinking crud off the covenant, and their tendancy to barrage into a forerunner instalation, set up shop and steal anything not nailed down... plus a few things that had been nailed down untill they pried it loose

versed helm
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Can i talk about divine wind in this channel now

keen snow
neon moss
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Ooo yea.

versed helm
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No its the newest halo book

keen snow
neon moss
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I haven’t read it yet so I am not much of help in talking about that book

versed helm
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Its a good book

keen snow
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Yeah, I'd be gobbling up the halo books... if the newest expanse book wasn't days away

versed helm
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I still need to read the expanse

strong tinsel
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Banished scarab is best scarab

sullen ridge
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that or the h2 scarab

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tbh

burnt pulsar
burnt pulsar
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And it’s not for the plasma torpedo

stable flower
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Banished use their own form of hillbilly armor

hot mirage
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lf1 diamond 5 and onyx

quaint hearth
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How are the Banished different from the Covenant?

honest trout
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They like red instead of purple and dint want to fire the Galaxy killing super weapons

sullen ridge
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also banished were against the unnecessary war

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or well they some found it a useless one at least

stable flower
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Oh, and they're Heretics, like Sesa's group

versed helm
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So glad the banished is in an fps they were amazing in halo wars 2

stable flower
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Speaking of which, I wonder if Sesa would've joined the Banished if he knew about them.

sullen ridge
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could have been

gilded mason
versed helm
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Was the needler a forrunner weapon or was it created by humans?

valid hemlock
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Covenant

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