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I'd recommend searching Cut Halo into the search bar, as there's a lot of pages under that title structure I've rewritten over the past year
ah (Swear) im going on a rabbit hole
Don't let oni spot u.
Just wondering would anyone think the grunt goblins may get appeared in the campaign as a mini boss?
It'd be nice but we just don't know if they will appear
:(
how good is contact harvest? wanted to buy it to know how good of a writer Staten is
It's pretty good
Staten had a pretty big hand in writing all of Bungie's Halo games (though he was less involved in 3) so you're probably already familiar with his work anyway.
True, but I tought there where like 3 writers on the first games and I wanted to know how he does by himself
thank god everyone seems to like how he writes that makes me pretty hopeful for Infinites
I doubt he's had much influence on Infinite's campaign writing with how far in development he joined the team.
Aye, yeah, if, and this is a very big if, there's been any changes to the writing for the campaign by him, I doubt it's anything significant
Probably the best Halo book
Staten was the main brain behind Halo 2
Google when halo comes out
Halo 4 had good story but the actual missions themselves weren’t to great
too many promethean knights in the final level 
is gravemind the last precursor? he says as much, but he also said regeneration is part of his kinds history, etc.
Technically yes.
I think gravemimd is a separate entity than that of the precursors, at best he is precursor adjacent
All floods are technically is a precursors, but they very much a separate entity
Sorry, I mean, is there actually confirmation that we've seen the last of them, or are we just going off what Gravemind has said
Well in terms of what is the official last precursor..
There was one that was with MB
But it had died out to uhh age?
to my knowledge the last precursor died after giving Mendicant Bias the logic plague as a final “screw you” to the forerunners
Yes.
The grave-mind and precursors are pretty different. The precursors look pretty insect or crab like with multiple limbs and their power seems to be beyond the grasp of even forerunner under standing. The flood although strong could never reach the power of the meta physical precursors
I won't be surprised if the flood end-game is try to become a physical precursor again
That was the original plan but either the precursors took a more nihilistic approach to life in the universe after their betrayal or whilst becoming what would eventually be the flood something unforeseen happened and the flood are a literal corruption of their race.
A popular theory is that it is the flood who have the mantle
Mhm
Wasn't it told that every time a gravemind is made they retain the memory's of all the other graveminds before it?
Yooo hmm
Yes
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if the flood infect through spores why didn't keyes and his squad get infected when they first entered the containment facility
The Flood is known for its dramatic timing.
Someone should get the mods some more pizza
What happening in infinite?
Oh shet 😍 shet I'm stuck at work!
It's a lot of people flooding in at once
It free right?
Yep
The mp
Yes
Sweet gonna go beg some friends to get it
The air probably didn’t have heavy spore density yet
It takes time for the flood to change the environment
The same reason arby didnt get infected in halo 2
Plot armor
AKA Energy Shields, maybe?
It’s a slower transformation but it’s not that slow
Like, hours
Not like you’d breathe in a spore and be fine for a week
Yeah what he's saying ^
Unless you're referring to me in which case that's what I meant
you can also reasonably infer that a facility designed for flood containment probably had facilities to remove spores from the atmosphere before an outbreak could get bad
Just providing more info
also what kind of idiots worship a weapon designed to kill them
the prophets need some brains
Did the prophets even know the halo rings once activated would kill all lifeforms?
They did
I believe
Well, they didn't originally even know what the real purpose of the Halo Array was.
Everything about the Covenant's religion was based on misinterpretation and mistranslation of what the Forerunners left behind.
The three hierarchs had apparently learned about the truth behind the Forerunners, reclaimers/reclamation, etc. before their rise to power and used it to their advantage.
They did not.
They did
Bit of an offtopic discussion but, i still cant wrap my head around this. In the end of Halo 3, Guilty spark says to chief, "you're a forerunner". Now chief is a human, and forerunners were not humans. Was guilty spark glitching there? or was there something else to it?
Bungie always kinda went back and forth on the relationship between Forerunners and humanity, since their original plan was to make them the same species. By Halo 3 they'd largely shifted to making them separate, though.
That line has pretty much been written off as Guilty Spark being a bit off his rocker.
They only "learned" that apparently it was possible for some to be left behind and not "transcend" as they thought all would do so. Not that the rings would kill them.
No they didn’t
In halo 4 the librarian gives master chief immunity to the composer so that I wouldn’t kill him so he is partly forerunner
Are Grunts smart?
If I have to take a guess they did but when they had 343 I'm sure truth ask more questions than others during it capture, prob came up with a plans for when he reached the ark, I'm sure behind the scenes there were alot of deaths to make sure no one but the ones truth trusts
Yes.
In the halo books there’s a couple of smart grunts such as dabdab
good name
Yeah I kinda misinterpreted it during the Halo hype chaos
Huh. Looks like there's some new UNSC frigate class present on one of the BTB maps.
UNSC Panama. Though it looks pretty similar to the Charon- and Paris-classes.
My Panamanian friend will be happy about that
the golden ranger is the arbiter in Halo reach?
Thel Vadamee does not make an appearance in Halo Reach.
maybe like an easter egg. cause both had a gold armor
Gold armor is not exclusive to Thel
or a golden ranger is someone who held the same rank as arbi
Many Elites wear gold armor
it was usually a hard fight with the golden ranger
Ima be honest the banish need it story told in a book I don't mean like what they are doing now I mean like how the y were doing during the covenant war 🤔 and maybe at the end talk about the post war
That was just Bob
God and the devil and Bob is a nice series.
It’s really barely known
remember. reach
Moas are more like Cassowaries I think. They’re just native to the planet.
true really thanks for the reminding
Guys did emil really die in reach?
Yeah they are just native to the planet
u are really right its such an overlooked detail.
precious geniuses
whose the bests of all mankind? its you precious ones

Huh. Looks like there’s another one of the new frigate class on Deadlock. Wonder if it’s just unchanged from the Panama.
Apparently it's still just the Panama. Now I'm curious what's up with it having the Halo 4/5 version of the UNSC insignia on it.
Do you guys think the Forerunners were morally justified in activating Halo?
If they didn’t activate the halo the flood would have taken over more and more I think the forerunners were right to activate the halo rings
Did you know that in halo reach in the background of the last cutscene you can see the astronaut from hit game 'Among us' please end my life
That’s some useful information right there
Joe would be such a good name for a Spartan
Yes
Spartan Niomi from the books is the most interesting Spartan besides chief
This is only a theory I thought of but I’m pretty sure If it wasn’t for Noble team the Master Chief wouldn’t have Cortana
was there even any other spartans that could have delivered it?
I don’t think so…
i havent read the books so idk either but yeah i think noble was literally the only option
Because you did deliver some sort of package that I believe was Cortana
Well... not really.
The Cortana that appears in game Reach is just a fragment that was split off from the main AI to help process information.
true forgot about that
but yes the package is half of cortana.
But I’m still technically right
The rest of the main AI was still up with the Pillar of Autumn at the time, so they'd really just be missing some information and maybe a bit of processing power.
i think without that fragment tho chief and cortana wouldnt have been able to win that fight
Halo fans talking about lore together strong XD
I'm sure Bungie's original intent was for the Cortana in Reach to just be whole entire Cortana because the game in general was meant to overwrite the Fall of Reach novel, but stuff like Halsey's journal included with the LE tried to make the two work together.
Sick bro
that journal is awesome still have mine
Technically the Autumn wouldn't have jumped to Installation 04 without the fragment's data.
Since current canon says that some of the info processed by the fragment helped Cortana translate other info recovered from Sigma Octanus IV into the coordinates for the Halo.
I don’t have one 😦
New UNSC frigate type woot woot
So I see they retconned the Halo 5 Phantom into the Battle of Earth. Smh
Whatever class the Panama belongs to is sorta... funky looking.
Feels like some odd mixture of elements from the Charon-, Paris-, and Strident-classes
hey found some binary code in the map high power can you guys tell me what it means because we tried to translate it but it didn't work I have screenshots to see if I got this wrong I wanted to figure out this binary code for Easter egg purposes it translates to this &râ¥%±
Having the 0's and 1's is going to be more valuable than the translation
If it's anything like the stuff people got from the flights earlier this year, it's probably just gibberish to fill space on computer screens and such.
but that just discredits the work that's there
@limber ember
but it was the the only readable text on screen the rest is just blurry
THE HELL MAN
Since original cortana is purple infinite and also a nod to the original version of ce I'm guessing cortana's canon first phase color was purple and I'm also guessing her short brunette hair is a canon first phase form to
Uhh... What? It's a server with people with lives. Lot of people are paying Halo right now. You posted less than an hour ago
And there might be context or you might have translated incorrectly. Having your translation with no source is next to useless information if there are additional hidden clues you missed. Plugging the numbers into Google isn't really enough work to warrant a claim of effort worthy of safeguarding your method and source. Sometimes Easter eggs take dozens of people weeks of effort
No, he and Six are huddled together in a corner in a cave waiting for extract. But seriously, dude got stabbed through the chest and his dead body was in the mission for you to see, plus he got glassed along with the rest of reach. You usually don't get deader than that.
the general rule is "no body, not dead." Kat: body. Emile: body. Carter: no body but he literally exploded so no body left. Jorge: no body, there's a chance—but effectively dead. Jun: he left, no body. alive
Because Meowster Chief needed to be made
If Chief can smack a nuke and survive I don’t see why Jorge couldn’t slap a slipspace drive and survive 
Everyone in noble team died except for jun
If he did he would have most likely either been left in empty space to suffocate or have been drawn into a worm whole and turned to spaghetti, extremely unlikely he landed on a planet that was also survivable
He warped into the battle with Noble Six and the elites and saved him, then they warped alllll the way over to Zeta Halo where we’ll reunite with chief 
I mean if it helps you sleep at night, but that wouldn't be possible
I don't think anyway
Also with the cut scene at the end of reach, no matter how quick George got their he'd probably have also been overwhelmed by the elites and their firepower
I wish the games showcased the sacrifices made like Reach did
Everyone keeps forgetting the army
Only think is that the other games were pretty much only based on chief, but they could probably have incorporated somewhere which would be cool
CE Keyes Terminal 🥲
I mean they probably knew they were doomed pretty quick
And the game sort of makes it obvious, but they could have focused on it more to make it more significant when they died
Is Halo Infinite the first game to introduce the Mjolnir Mark 7?
Halo 5 had Decimator, and Halo 4 has Keystone
jun not only left but hes literally in halo after reach lol
yeah i believe so. they went from Gen 1 Mk6 to the Gen 2 line of armor in halo 4, its first actual appearance that i can recall, was in a book, glasslands.
It was also mentioned in Halo Mythos: A Guide to the Story of Halo which was released back in 2016.
which was after the book was released
That is true, dont mind me and my subjective blindness
halo mythos is basically an encyclopedia. it was in the books, so they put it in the encyclopedia.
Its a good encyclopedia 😃
I love the little taste of Plot that they snuck into the Multiplayer Beta through the Academy. I hope the Infinite Campaign gives us more of Spartan Agryna.
wasn't the decimator supposed to be the prototype to mark 7
No, Decimator is derived from Mk.VII tech.
She specifically said next generation of spartans so spartan V confirmed???
No
No
I believe Halsey's Journal also had some plans for MkVII? Been a while since I flipped through it.
That sounds about right.
I know she had some more… grandiose plans for advancements in Mk.VII.
Do we know where launch site takes place?
I saw "familiar" looking goop on the vents in that map and wanna know where the popcorn has spread to
Doesn’t seem like there’s any hints to where it’s set.
Map description has nothing and the only unique signage I could find on the map itself was the 22nd Rapid Response or whatever markings all over.
might be one of those off-the-grid places like where Osman/Hood/BB are
The place Osman and Hood are at ain't exactly a super secret launch site
We've seen plenty of shattered moons and planetoids. I'll admit the first one that came to mind is the one near where Installation 03 was but that doesn't really make sense to be the shattered moon seen on the map
So my money is on it being somewhere new
imagine it being earth
also on streets, there’s a nice easter egg with arcade machines
if you go to the b flag on strongholds there’s 2 arcade machines on the left side that play a somewhat 8bit version of the CE theme
At first i thought zeta cuz the mountains and trees were really similar to the campaign but no ring in the sky box and no exposed pillars either. The shattered moon and other planets in the distance mean it's probably some outer colony unsc base or something
I was just really interested to check that map out because of some puddles that may or may not have been on the map in previous images
Someone's probably already mentioned it but in the steam screenshots I noticed there was a hologram of a halo 3 guardian in a forerunner facility
Just an interesting detail that might mean something
That image has been round since earlier this year
i wonder what class of frigate does the UNSC panama falls into
it doesn't seem to match the profile of any Paris/Charon/Stalwart/Strident/anlace class frigates
plus it's main weapon seems to be more energy based then Kinetic
What's the lore behind why the plasma pistol used to disable vehicles and now can't?
It’s probably going to end up being something about how Covenant weapons and materiel are subject to extreme amounts of variation
There’s not really any lore to it other than there being slightly different models of Plasma Pistol that may or may not look similar
can any1 sumarise the halo 5 story bc i never got it
it's pretty friggin' wild. Best bet is to play it or watch it played
So the prequel to Halo infinite is Halo wars 2 because it introduces the banished?
Not really
halo wars introduces the banished, and but it's just another marker on the timeline as far as infinite goes. Infinite is still a H5 sequel
Come to think of it, has the emp effect of certain Covenant weapons on vehicles ever been brought up in a novel? Might have always been a gameplay concession.
I mean they are electromagnetically charged so they should EMP in lore
I don't think it's ever really been mentioned in novels and such.
Outside of the Shock Rifle in Shadows of Reach, if that counts for anything.
random guardians (big owl like forerunner weapons things used to police solar systems ) start randomly popping up
Osiris led by Jameson locke (someone only mentioned in halo 2a terminal before really) has to save doc Halsey from jul mdama, the big bad guy from halo 4 spartan ops which you might or might not have played
Osiris goes to kamchatka to save Halsey where they see that the promethians have turned in the storm covenant
Osiris saves Halsey kills mdama end of mission 1
cut to chief and Blue team who are in orbit near Argent moon a research station which is highly classified but ends up being taken by storm covenant and chief gets sent to destroy it
midway chief gets some weird visions about Cortana and she mentions meridian a planet which got glassed for the most part
progress through mission you decide to blow up the station and right before you leave chief calls in to the infinity because he thinks Cortana is alive but infinity says no and another team is sent to deal with her so they go awol to get Cortana first end of mission 2
this is gonna take a while 
cut to meridian you play as blue team to find a guardian, you help some locals who really don't like you against the promethians and also have to arrest blue team pretty much
your enter cave with guardian, have a fight with warden eternal who's really annoying and keeps showing up you also have a cutscene where Locke gets beat up by chief end of mission 3
cut back to outside of cave you basically have to get away because guardian leaving anyways so you do some spartan magic and climb a very structurally damaged space elevator because guardian and you manage to get into a pelican and get back off planet
end of like mission 4
cut to genesis a forerunner shieldworld where supposedly Cortana is and you hear lot of olly olly oxen free throughout the mission which chief thinks is Cortana later on Cortana actually contacts you and yes she still lives
cut back to Osiris who need to get on a guardian too and Halsey mentions one is not yet active on sanghelios the elite homeworld but they are in the middle of a civil war so you got there but you are there off the record
you help the arbiter with taking down the storm covenant and you also destroy a kraken which is a giant tripod which they put in because why not
complete mission, cut to a cutscene where you talk with arbiter who is giving Locke a peace of his mind when suddenly Cortana interrupts you and she knows about the guardian
cut back to genesis you progress more to see Cortana fight the warden a few more times (fred is hella useless) and you get to see Cortana but full size and really not that goodlooking
she pretty much kidnaps blue team and puts them in a cryptum for however long she would take to police the entire galaxy
because created are supposed to be the mastterrace according to her
if you haven't noticed it yet Cortana really lost it and went nuts
cut back to sanghelios you have to help the elites deal a finishing blow to the storm covenant on the holy city of sunaion
you got there shoot stuff
shoot some more stuff
destriy a few things
then the guardian pops up ready to make a slipspace jump
Palmer out of nowhere flies in with a pelican and you get on the guardian
cut to genesis still playing Osiris you vertically walk off of the guardian which is like 1km tall
you end op on the ground
shoot some stuff
then you meet the monitor of that shield world
she is absolutely not happy with Cortana having taken over
you make your way through, kill some stuff
fight the warden a few times more
listen to a whole speech Cortana makes
showing how she basically developed a god complex
turning against humanity too
a la forerunners with the precursors save for the genocide
you make it so that exuberant witness (the monitor) gets at least some control back
and you mess with Cortana her plan to take chief and the rest of blue team
blue team gets freed, Cortana angery
cut to infinity in orbit around earth
suddenly Cortana pops up on their holo table
says some stuff
guardian comes out of slipspace and prepares an emp
infinity yeets out and does an emergency slipspace jump
the entirety of earth and everything in it's orbit gets emp'd
the some stuff happens which you have to read in a book
cut to sanghelios
pelican approaching
blue team and Osiris step out Halsey says some things
end of game
what a rollercoaster of confusion
altho if you beat it on legendary you get another post credits scene where a halo installation is seen (either 07 or anders ring)
yes
i mean i could go into full detail but i don't have the entire night
if they got games can just download it lol
Uh... Locke had an entire live action miniseries? lol, more than justa terminal reference.
xD
still a thing I'd rather forget about 😂
When it comes to the UNSC Infinity class supercarrier, where more ships planned for the line outside the Eternity and the Infinity?
No because humanity actually has some kind of budget
don't think that has been mentioned anywhere
Nothing’s been said on the matter. As far as we know it was just the two.
True but it is implied there are not mass production vessels
And even then the Eternity is still sitting incomplete in the construction yard.
Perfectly sitting there to replace the infinity after infinite
Unless the banished blew up the UNSC shipyards
which shipyard is the eternity even on
No one even knows
because a ship like that is not gonna be on some outer colony
it's gonna be on a very well defended planet at least
Probably a Moon,Mars or Jupiter construction area
oh great solar system 
Also
Does the Alpha Centauri system exist in halo
Eternity is probably at Special Assembly Plant Concord in the Oort Cloud where the Infinity was built.
Oort Cloud also works I guess
Am I the only one who thinks the banished created the "shock" weapons specifically to fight spartans
wait didn't the covenant also have presence in alpha centauri during the war
I mean they would have invaded it in order to reach earth
I find it weird how halo cannon rarely mentions real world systems
But again Reach is supposed to be quite far from earth
Sol does
But I find it weird how humans colonised really far out systems and just forgot our nearby neighbors
But again Sci-Fi plot convenience I guess
alpha eridani the star which eridanus II orbits?
I wonder how many grunts lives on high charity
Like it must be billions at the minimum
doubt any Live there now
True
Tough I mean at its peak
spartan smoking fat darts
lore friendly?
Why the hell did forerunners choose humans as the best option in terms of successor species
It made sense in the pre-343 lore when humans were forerunners
i asked a question
I mean if the UNSC don’t know. a spartan could get away with recreational use of substances
doubt they would
tho you never know
I'd see an odst snorting a few lines tho
spartan less so
Again maybe noble six was high the entire time on Reach
six probably had pure coke running through his veins
He/She was addicted to the blood of grunts
chuffin back FAT darts.
Shame we dont hear about the SOF crew fighting the Flood on the Ark.
It's always the Banished
Librarian was really obsessed with humans, sadly.
As for the second point, it's a bit more complicated than that. By Halo 3, different Bungie devs had different ideas about the Forerunner-human relation. Some thought they were them, some thought they were separate, and that was reflected in the campaign dialogue and terminals, respectively.
just that one cyan spartan vibin in the tutorial
smokin fat doinks
So essentially the librarian liked humans so chose them
Yeah
someone had a complex
It tickles me how they used a Minor Elite for ADATB
then again not we see how good a lot of other races did
That seems like less and educated decisions more like “oh I like this one”
Basically
Ironically many became Prometheans
didact has entered the chat
there's always someone who wants to exterminate the humans
I mean the only ones less fit than humans to be reclaimers are Grunts (they are weaker and stupider) And Brutes(they have a temper)
What about Yonhet?
Grunts are plenty smart
lekgolo for reclaimers
They can sniff out Forerunner tech
Lekgolo would be great reclaimers
being able to use weapons doesn't necessarily classify as smart
Are the Buggers really sentient
What about whatever species the Harbinger is?
And, like, casting massive decisions based on what race you are is pretty freaking weird
Just like Qui-Gon Jinn said “the ability to speak does not make you intelligent”
yonhet aren't buggers
I get confused with species names
Spacism
I believe thats the Yanme'e youre thinking about
I think at this point the forerunners were just playing a game of stellaris and chose humans on a dice roll
but yes buggers are sentient
I mean.
Canonically Unggoy are pretty quick learners. They're not dumb, just more or less culturally conditioned to be afraid of everyone.
Barley
So Grunts should have been reclaimers
Yeah. Speciesism is pretty cringe as hell.
They are kind, quick learning and resilient
unggoy for reclaimer food nipple 24/7
Arguably no singular race should've been designated as the only ones worthy of the Mantle because that was the big mistake that screwed everything up in the first place
Yup
The forerunners were so advanced the existence of all other species was like a strategy game
Yeah tons of humans have done terrible stuff
Brutes were the new kids on the block and hated Elites right away
Just look at history (remember WW2 did happen in the halo universe)
first the precursors and the forerunners literally exterminated them for it
It's not even just a problem with humans, just the whole idea of "one species to rule them all" practically encourages everyone to kill each other to claim power over the others.
"Oh? You've brought peace and prosperity to everyone in this system cluster? Sorry, but that doesn't really matter. This other guy may be a mass murderer, but he's a human, so he's more deserving of leading."
even damn the damn ai
The Forerunners used it as an excuse to keep other species from advancing too far so they could maintain their hold on power
then Cortana came along to turn the tables even more
One species to rule them all, One species to find them, One species to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. In the land of Earth where the shadows lie
Imagine certain Political group responsible for mass murder of a certain religious minority during the Second World War IN SPACE
True the reclaimer status is pretty much discrimination
A grunt or elite could do everything good in his life and be less worthy of being a reclaimer than the worst humans
Eyup
they wouldn't even be considered less wort(hy)
A buzzfeed personality test is more useful than selecting a chosen species
mean it all started when the precursors chose
then the forerunners made equally bad choices
True blame the mysterious beings who we know basically nothing about
so at least we can blame them
Blame the librarian
we can also blame the forerunners for the galaxy consuming parasite
how many swigs of whiskey can a spartan take before getting smashed
we can also blame them for the entire human covenant war because mendicant bias kinda caused it to happen
@modest wigeon all of them
I mean depends of the Spartans alcohol tolerance
depends how high their alcohol tolerance is
Spartans like noble six and chief could drink all day
no idea if bio augmentations increased that or not
i mean their like 400 pounds they probably can take at least a few bottles
does a spartan 2 have a libido or are they just chemically castrated because of the augmentations
Alcohol tolerance is not solely dependant to how fast you get inebriated
The 3s and 2s would have zero tolerance due to never drinking
4s definitely would
the 4’s are equivalent to collage kids
I mean I am pretty sure Spartans can reproduce but the desire to do the smashy smashy is non existent
lots of former helljumpers
Hell jumpers had to drink tons before a mission
because they are dare devils and worse than the graduates
can't tell me that an odst is not high as a kite before hot dropping
cortana, what does “i james bond burger your sister” mean
Rookie can’t talk becuase he is too stoned to even hear what the others guys are saying
trye lore that 343 needs to confirm
rookie taking a permanent nap
how did he die anyways
shot
Yeah after loses some weight
happens in a book
by whomst
who was it in alpha nine who turned
innies
i do not know because i havent read the books
ah

alpha nine is on mission
Chiefs Response: “Why is it funny to have intercourse with my female sibling. I do not see the humour?”
Mickey turned
They had a small chance of losing their drive. But was not guaranteed.
yeah Mickey turns on them and causes rookie to get killed
It wasn't Mickey's fault
Think of it like Chief could have kids but he has no desire to
ihavealsonotplayedodstyetlmao
It was just rookies turn to get his ticket punched
Mickey turned full native after rookies death
Mickey didn’t turn on them at that point
Mickey sort of charged forward and that made the innie shoot rookie
no wait I'm wrong yeah
Rip rookie, favorite self insert protagonist
Rookie got killed in a random halo 5 prequel novel
ingridson straight up executed the rookie
1984
Why did I die this way
The insurrectionist was gonna shoot rookie anyway
Yea
not even, events on draco III happens in 2554
rookie halo infinite dlc gone 
Bro rookie only lived two more years after ODST
yeaj
I feel just sad now
dude was 28 years old
Two more years is a lot
I remember being 28
He dies in a book too
buck became an S4
yeah it's the book we're talking about
Oh sorry, I shoulda scrolled up
I wish rookie was developed more. Instead we got funny Locke man
Rookie was never meant to be developed just like noble six
I disagree with murdering a game protagonist just to give buck a reason to join Locke
buck survived reach, all the stuff in New Mombasa, some post war stuff and got picked to be a spartan IV
We got a faceless Gordon Freeman as a space marine
Blank slate for players to get immersed in
replace locke’s character with rookie 😳
Noble six was never developed aswell really
Yeah fair point. Wouldn’t be the same probably if rookie was developed
noble 6 has more voiceline
Thats what im saying whyisyes
Rookie like shrugs once
😰😰😰😳😳😳🥵🥵🥵
😳
I also like how noble 6 laughs when they kill grunts
murder
Blows skull off of enemy cannon fodder: hehe
Life sad
noble 6 lives on grunt blood like was said
I wonder did any elites form an ummmmm relationship with a human post war... it is possible and the possibility of inter-planet relationship scares me
No
Noble six was completely off the hook
Halo isnt bad fanfic
😳
6 is an emissary of khorne, wouldn't surprise me if they just straight up would scream BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Glad Reach got glasses
Until the young adult novels which were basically bad fanfic
Yeah lowkey noble 6 is a lunatic
Glad that series got cancelled
that sentence deserves to be glassed tbh
the ones with the ferrets are nice
Heresy. The emperor will hear of this
I mean both species have trillions of members
@sullen ridge the gammas
rion forge ones but they're spark his redemption arc
stop
It is a possibility
shut
Spartan 3 books give me life
It is a rare possibility by some degenerate human being
you dont know what forces your dealing with
The great journey will leave you behind heretic
i just want another book where it's just Johnson
I am ready to die
I have payed the price in order to progress science
actually have your chatlogs vanish
turns into GMod Error Texture
That would be cool
Ok jakal sniper
(it will hapen)
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K E B O B
smack
That was an ODST terminal reference
Which halo book is exactly right before Halo Combat Evolved
and will remove you fron gam
like a prequel
Fall of Reach
fall of reac
The Flood is a novelisation of CE
Flood is a novelisation of 1
story of ce= story of the flood
is there a channel that i can post images because theres this image that has the chronigcal order of the halo books but i dont know What books are before/after the halo games
But Don’t confuse Fall of Reach with Halo Reach
Chronologically the forerunner novels take place 100,000 years before the games
so Cryptum is the first one of the saga of forerunner?
i wonder if anyone notice they add a rvb ref and it not the pink issue
LOVE ECKHARTS
NEW CAPITAL SHIPS EXPLANATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FtTCPwQkNs
They created the model, I'm sure there'll be a bunch as cutscene crowdfiller.
Actually, now that I think about it, some of the ship wreckage from the 2020 campaign demo seems like it matched the design of the new frigate class.
So we've seen the thing before, just not in any operational capacity.
If it was supposed to be a whole important operation to stop Cortana, yeah, I'd imagine they would've had a significant number.
Not the best image but the shape along the bottom is absolutely one of the new frigates.
The chunk of ship here (visible towards the upper middle of the previous image) also seems to be from the upper half of one of their hulls.
If you’re looking for books after the games the alpha nine series 2nd book bad blood has some info about the AIs and Cortana’s rule. The new blood book is between halo 3 ODST and halo 5. And the shadow of intent book is after halo 3. Hope this was sort of a help.
I love the halo 2,3, and now infinite design!
Wasn’t a big fan of the h5 design
I have a theory. ||There is conflict on the new ring, somehow the ring goes through slip space and that’s were halo infinite takes place that’s why the pilot doesn’t just fly home because he needs a slip space drive and that’s why we haven’t seen Atriox yet. ||
It’s probably not right but just a guess with the bits of info from the halo infinite tutorial
||And that’s why cortana doesn’t seem present and there are only remains of the battle with her forces ||
||Rekt guardian||
Master Chief gets cancelled and Cortana becomes space Hitler. Humanity in trouble again oh no but it's ok because Chief and Locke are friends and meet up with Arby (for a quick cutscene and epilogue to a book anyways)
Master Chief - we need to find Cortana
Blue Team - Ok
Spartan Locke - No
Master Chief - Yes
Spartan Locke - : (
LATER
Master Chief - Cortana i have come
Cortana - Ok cool now its time to destroy world or whatever
Master Chief - Why
Cortana - Because evil
Spartan Locke - No
Cortana - Oh no i died
Cortana becomes what the Friedens wanted back in the 2100s
halo 5: master chief and the crazy girlfriend
I know im gonna cry again during Halo 6 campaign...I feel so bad for Chief...all he wanted to do is get Cortana Home and fixed ever since 4
I have a feeling hes going to sacrafice himself to kill cortana i know it
id be surpsied if he didnt.
Facts lmao
what is the difference between gen 2 and 3?
GEN 2 was designed to be easier to manufacture and they focused heavily on that aspect so they were only a small improvement over GEN 1 Mk 6. GEN 3 returns to having more armor coverage to bring a higher level of protection over the GEN 2 armor. GEN 3 also changes the way AI integration works so that a rogue AI can't just turn Spartans into really expensive bricks.
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MJOLNIR had protections against AI already. In TFoR they talk about how they couldn't control your suit for you or stop you and whatnot. They just beefed up that aspect.
In Last Light, Fred's armor was infiltrated by a forerunner ancilla and she had a hard time actually taking over any of his systems. Best she could do was interfere with his visor and comms and use him like an antennae.
never said the pre gen 3 couldnt prevent tampering from ais
only said that it changed the way ai interacts with the suit so that they cant brick em
and by brick i dont literally mean lock their armor
having your visor messed with by having a bunch of popups or whatnot can get you killed by messing with your situational awareness
also intrepid eye was definitely not at full spec running on hardware they were never meant to run on
im sure given enough time theyd have been to make things far worse
it wouldnt be too far of a stretch to think that if cortana wanted she couldve done more damage to mjolnir than a rampant logic plague corrupted forerunner ai thats original purpose was meant to be like a zoo keeper
yeah, was just clarifying so people didn't think MJOLNIR was super vulnerable before.
Does anyone ever think that the gravemind messed with the Cortana, way back between halo 2 & 3? Like maybe messed with her code or something? I always wondered what was going on in that last scene from 2 where it has 'questions' for her.
You can find out what he did in the short story "Human Weakness"
Human Weakness covers what happened to her between Halo 2 and Halo 3 (bonus points: the audiobook is read by Jen Taylor).
dang
too slow
Ha!
Oh dang
but yeah, my favorite of the short stories
Yeah, it's good
Yeah. i think there's a famous theory of gravemind, infecting cortana with the Logic Plague. Pretty much similar to how the Precursor messed up Mendicant Bias and made him turn on his creators (forerunners)
Which is funny, since Human Weakness refutes that theory
Shame. Imagine if the Gravemind took control of the Guardians via Cortana 😬
I'd hate it lmao
finger's crossed there are mission relating to the flood, mendicant bias, offensive bias in Halo Infinite. Zeta halo has such an interesting history. Be a shame if infinite didn't touch on these topics
my theory is the Cortana we are fighting is one of the rampant shards that Cortana shunted.
That's kinda spelled out in Dominion Splinter.
but yeah, her time with Gravemind basically accelerated her rampancy by her own estimation.
not just that
I mean the the the quasi torture by the big talking tentacle helped with that but also all the information she took in on installation 04 and probably 05 and high charity as well
Tbf we don’t know that the fragments weren’t recompiled after the fact
sounds like Halo Wars 2 kinda literally from the game
at least infinite takes place after
but the the thing is that 117 wasn't in the game at least that I remembers so its a little weird I do love the theory
spartan commander lady does mention ||both the ring and the infinity dissappeared||
I don't understand most of the lore, can I have a simple explanation?
That’s what My theory is filed on
||I’d assume the monitor||
that could very well be a possibility
||as a measure to prevent catastrophic damage to the ring||
Yes
well what exactly confuses you
||Activating slip space because of the break in the ring!? We have heard of monitors doing this before taking there ring far away to make repairs||
because the entire lore then we're gonna be here for a while
I just don't understand it that much. The only halo game I've played recently is Halo 4
And then again that was a few months back
pretty much everything up to 3 you fight against the covenant, a religious military alien power who wanna exterminate humans
because of the sole reason the forerunners chose the as being quote on quote "worthy"
They better make the cat ears attachment canon
wars 2 is against an entirely new faction which splintered off of the covenant during the war because they weren't on terms with the whole war thing while having to sacrifice a lot of their kin
So I assume the ring at the end of halo wars 2 is the third replacement for 04
Is that right
ah wait
O9 would probably be the replacement then
and 09 would be installation 04c
basically
so yes it was in fact intended as replacement
So that was what I was saying
but an entire new designation
So they learned there lesson to not launch the ring into view before they finish it lol
the ark keeps a ring in the foundry at all times like anders mentioned
So supposedly anders didn’t need to teleport the ring to where 04 was cause it was already going there.
They launched the other ring up in 3 it wasn’t finished
no the ring can only go to places where a ring previously was
coincidentally only the one near threshold wasn't there
the rings are a replacement for any ring that gets destroyed
Nice coincidence
yeah no we blew it up in ce
Lol
but in theory that replacement could've gone to any system where the ring was destroyed
not just soell
I think that with her access to the Domain, Cortana will or has been making contact with the Didact. What do you guys think?
Yeah but the only ring that was destroyed was 04 so it worked from there perspective but it’s funny because there wasn’t any other destroyed rings
yup
Perhaps the Didact sees AI, beings created to have no flaw, are a better fit for the Mantle
mean a certain ai developed a god complex
So in halo infinite how tall are we? I would assume same height as master chief 7 feet however, in the trailer you see the one girl and she looks short but in the game looks taller than us? Anyone know her height?
Right I forgot lmfao
I need to read those forerunner books
Also, I read somewhere that in Halo 3 you can talk to Mendicant but I don’t know where to find him
you need to do all terminals
then on the ark there's a hidden terminal which gets some messages of him
more like an apology note on how he messed up
Okay no more spoilers for me 😂
So, I need to find all the terminals first
Wait a minute wouldn’t that be after the campaign?
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the Ark was the first forerunner mission?
Yup
So if I need to get all the terminals to find it then that would mean I go back to Ark after finding the other terminals in the later levels
during
Oh ok
and the mendicant terminal is on the last mission
you can just use acrophobia
Okay thanks guys
save yourself a lot of time with that skull
gonna take some time on that tho
super easy to do on mcc because you can fly around
True I could save the time but I already am doing a complete playthrough of the series again so I don’t mind
Too many people slept on the halo 4 terminals man
They provide so much insight to the characters like Didact and Librarian
i mean i got all but the laso achievements on mcc
spent some time on that
fun to do if you got some friends to mess around with to do them
oh actually the overly annoying halo 2a ones where you need to get environmental kills
mcc crossplay no?
Only in mp not campaign unfortunately
ah oof
And apparently 343 has no plans for campaign crossplay
found someone people to play with through reddit back when I did them
I mean we can literally play every mode even firefight so idk whats the problem
Nice
Idk never played that lol

think there was an achievement for that too
Legendary just drives me crazy
legendary is OK
I need to shred aliens man
save for all of h2 and truth and reconciliation on ce
also the reason why i never even started laso on ce
CE is cool but too clunky for me to play legendary
some levels are God awfully hard
T&R and library are Vietnam flashbacks for most veteran halo players
Does anyone know why the wasp in infinite has no shields?
No lore reason has been given for its lack of shielding thus far.
i just say since the created threat happened + the banished, the unsc lost some technology
vital stuff for the wasp and other stuff
Same reason we didn't have another class of spartan 2s, budget cuts.
There's no lore reason for the lack of shields, and I doubt it's anything to do with budget cuts
You don't think that the whole created conflict could have messed up the human economy?
Maybe the shielding materials went to the Gen 3 mjolnir
they probably had to divert resources
3 way standoff where 2 of the sides really don't like you
If In Amber Clad didn't enter Installation 05 orbit?
Hmmm
The Covenant would actually be interesting in Halo 3.
Mod time.
What is the average speed of UNSC Infinity?
Like how many lightyears can she travel per day?
Del Rio back for revenge on the chief/s
Lel
Del Rio called a press conference at the Congressional Plaza, praising the SPARTAN-IV program and calling for the decommissioning of the remaining Spartan-IIs, as well as the arrest of John-117—calling him a "false Spartan" and a "broken bastardization of a soldier". After the UEG released additional security footage of the attacks, revealing the Master Chief's innocence, Del Rio recanted his earlier condemnations and stated that John-117 was a hero. After praising the Spartan, Del Rio took a brief leave of absence, claiming it was due to unrelated family matters.
what a clown
He's no captain keyes
Anyone wonder if the assembly are going to show up again or is that just being ignored?
Is campaign going to have cross save?
no specifications on that anywhere
Im surprised they haven't showed up in the books given the whole created thing. Being a giant consortium of AI youd think theyd have been given a bigger representation beyond in game side content.
Seems like wasted potential so far but hopefully they do get something on them
infinity's slipspace drive is forerunner in origin
Always thought something like hunt the truth wouldve been very appropriate
It was a bit weird bungie added them in on their last halo game too.
so it's safe to assume it can do most travels in matters of hours/days
after
but yes New Mombasa is bint rebuilt
same seen as the other map
what's it's name
They just slapped some flex seal and duct tape and she was good to go
since they restarted construction on the orbital elevator too
yeah bazaar is in Mombasa too
also an Easter egg on streets if you haven't found it yet
machines lol
playing the halo tune
@loud fjord yeah well bungie left 343 with a good bit of stuff to work off of in future game installments
All for them making their own mark on halo but i wouldve liked to see an actual presence of spartan 3s in the game past reach
I wanna see an AI from a dead Spartans noggin
Lol never thought of that but that'd be cool
I’m hoping Jun shows up in the storyline for infinite tbh
Well tbf most of the game ive seen is well lit and muzzle flashes dont noticeable illuminate your surroundings in well lit areas irl
muzzle flash isn’t as bright as you’d think it is
Ah yeah cant remember many dark places in the game myself
Too focused on furiously spamming grenades every corner i think theres an enemy lol
Too stronk
game is pretty well lighted
@delicate mural waiting for noble six to crawl out of the cave hes been hiding in
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Also jorge must be real bored traveling in slipspace this entire time
If he could just pop out of slipspace thatd be great
I'm waiting for the rookie to reveal he's secretly immune to headshots🥲
I think his burial at sea would say otherwise lol
But maybe hes got crazy good genetics and went into hibernation
noble six immune to superheated plasma
Hes just walking it off
@versed helm didnt want to include him in the books thus giving him a personality
Six being alive would undo the only character arc he had.
They wanted to keep rookie a blank slate
Couldve sent him to a different team lol
But hey
5 brain
New blood
No
Flood bad
Ignore flood
Spicy popcorn is bad for game
Assault rifle go brrrrt
Imagine in the end flood outbreak by meddlers.
They started installation 05 outbreak...
In my heart the rookie was the spartan 4 from halo 4 muliti player
The one thing i wholly agree with 343 on is leaving the flood out the games lol
Meddlers is a term used for a much of unknown aliens that have happened to cross paths with Forerunner installations that we have next to no information about
And are from another galaxy.
Maybe they ARE flood.
Didn't need to tag me and there is zero evidence for or against them being from a different galaxy
From another galaxy.
And they definitely cannot be Flood
But keyminds...
The flood DEFINITELY spread to other galaxies.
And consumed them.
Lol
Didn't need to tag me and the meddlers cannot be Flood, it would not make sense for that to be the case
But flood reinforcements...
I told you to stop tagging me
Flood help flood eat future.
the lore clearly explains how the flood came to be
there’s also no known outside milky way species whatsoever involved in the halo universe (yet)
do all of the books of the forerunner saga talk about the flood?
Yeah the forerunners thought they could microwave 2 weeks old pasta without the noodles being crusty
it’s mostly centered around human-forerunner and forerunner flood war yes
and key figures during that period
i see, i knew it also included human-forerunner war and obv flood and precursor but not how much
precursors not that much except for the primordial
But there's NO WAY that they did not spread to other galaxies.
they didn’t
they laid dormant in the large magellanic cloud
and the flood was in powder form
the precursors became powder which basically held their genetic code iirc and left it on ships dormant in the large magellanic cloud, this got corrupted over the span of millenia
and the forerunners found the flood
in powder form
But aren't the precursors already the flood?
or actually think it was primordial humans
they are
but a series of events caused them to become the flood
they weren’t the flood like we know them now at first
They just corrupted over time like you said
But there's a theory...that they were always the flood.
When the forerunners found out they began their extermination.
The flood is the universes way of eating things.
In this theory.
How?
you don’t know your lore
Halo has never been about metaphysical ideas
It's not the universes way of doing anything
the flood is a corruption of precursor genetic material
The universes way of getting rid of stuff is by putting dumb people in charge of manual slip space calculations and having then smash into stars
Installation 07 gonna have precursor Baby Yoda.
casual reconcillation
only thing left of the precursors is on a shield world that spark now supervises
and that’s because the librarian felt bad about how te forerunners exterminated them without any really good reason
literally precursors survived on path kethona
that it
lore is lore
Them and the young adult series are the only ones i havent read
it’s more centered around guilty spark his redemption arc than it really is about rion
Well couldn't read more than a couple chapters of the young adult series being honest
but good books nonetheless
Oh yes Orion...
Ah okay
The coolest place in the galaxy.
The precursors did have a good reason though
meant the forerunners exterminating the precursors
forerunners only threw a hissy fit like a 5 year old because they didn’t get the mantle at first
Imagine if Jun joins the Banished.
Isn't the domain a non corrupted precursor?
Lol what? Why would he?
It's the universes brain kinda.
Who was the assassin group that joined the banished?
Silent Shadow.
Thx
Characters I want to come back are Jun and Tartarus.
domain isn’t a being
tho it’s a neural construction made by the precursors
Tartarus is dead
Unfortunately
?
But he tank boi.
I must have misrembered it being a shapeshifted precursor, thank ye.


