#lore-and-universe

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terse lava
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his "mum" comment was simply an accent on "ma'am"

versed helm
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or was it?

crimson acorn
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Now that MCC has functioning subtitles we can find out

noble fjord
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I've done some digging back into Reach lore...

The UNSC didn't stand a chance, the covenant and Thel were tearing them apart like cotton candy.

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The Fleet of Particular Justice just feels like overkill honestly.

tacit charm
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i mean

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if they had better coordinated those cov ships to be into the deadzone of those odps and nuke mines idk things may have turned out a bit differently but otherwise ye unsc were more or less screwed

noble fjord
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Also even though it seems likely it's not the case, it's interesting to think that Zealot teams were specifically hunting Noble team.

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Why would they? Idk there's other teams on Reach

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What dictates spartan team size?

Red is 3
Omega is... God knows
Blue is 4
Osiris is 4
Noble was 6

unique rune
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Team size varies by mission needs

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Spartan-II Red, Blue, and Green had a variety of compositions for the duration of the Human-Covenant War, ranging anywhere from 3 to 18 members.

noble fjord
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Wouldn't joint operation between two teams be different than just a temporary addition to a team?

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Like on Arcadia when Omega assisted Red

Wouldn't they be classified as two different teams not one big team

unique rune
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In those cases, sure, but team numbers were always flexible.

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Blue Team sometimes operated with just three members, other times their roster had eight.

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Just depended on who was available and what the mission required.

noble fjord
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On average who had the advantage the Spartan team or their hunters (Silent Shadow)

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I've not touched silent shadow lore with a ten foot pole yet

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Except for that one team that encountered Atriox

fossil eagle
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Rebirth (including Trial of Mendicant Bias), Promises to Keep, and Untitled Story are the three epilogical pieces of media to Greg Bear's Forerunner Saga.
After completing Silentium, I recommend listening to the full-length Rebirth story, then read Promises to Keep from Halo: Fractures, and finally conclude the entire saga with the Untitled Story at the very end of Halo: Fractures.

stable flower
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Will SOF ever make it back to human civilization?

last anchor
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Only time will tell

fair hazel
tight wing
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Hey guys

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I have a question for any lore scribe here

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I'm reading up on Threshold, the Gas Mine place

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And it says that Sesa and Loka were sent there by the Prophet of Stewardship to look for forerunner tech.
But after Halo CE, they (the two elites) got marooned there.
How??? Why???
Did they not have radios or something????
What happened to the ship they rode on???

versed helm
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They probably were dispatched by one of the larger vessels that then left for Installation 04 and thus they didn't have anything FTL capable.

main rivet
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Severe damage was done to the Covenant fleet, and then immediately after Ascendant Justice shows up and things get even more chaotic. Not like they were stranded on a desert island and forgotten, but recalling some of their survey teams who were otherwise fine was probably not high on the Covenant's list at the moment.

gusty star
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Actually upon learning the surface level of the Prophet’s Lies, Sesa cut off all communications with the Fleet of Particular Justice. With the Fleet badly wounded after the Battle of Installation 04 and Prophet of Stewardship (the one who dispatched them) dead, they likely just presumed the contingent somehow died on Threshold and then sped away for Thel’s trial.

main rivet
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Yeah, but we don't actually know what the timeframe for that was.

lunar drum
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So did a Guardian pop out of the planet that Grey Team was on in their last book?

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I think the book was Envoy?

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Er no. I remember that grey team met up with Osman. Nevermind.

carmine sleet
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Halo Envoy was at least a few months before Halo 5 and while it's not impossible for there to have been a Guardian on that planet, we just don't know if there was one

inland jackal
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Ok will the arbiter start dancing when he sees a Dr. Pepper can?

obsidian thistle
# fair hazel I wish that intro could be re-recorded

https://youtu.be/jQC1alCK0vI

YouTube
Halopedia Archive
Rebirth - Silentium Coda (full)

Rebirth is an audio epilogue to Halo: Silentium, downloadable via Halo Waypoint Classified by entering the code found at the beginning of each chapter of Silentium. Written by Greg Bear and his daughter Chloe Bear, the story follows Riser and his arrival on the lesser Ark and later his return to Erde-Tyrene. Days after, a new code was revealed, ...

▶ Play video
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:P

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But yea Rebirth is getting uncommon.

fair hazel
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No. Re-recording the names

obsidian thistle
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Ah

fair hazel
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Rebirth. By Chloe Bear and Greg bear.
I mean could it technically be done? Asking Greg bear to just say that line.

obsidian thistle
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Thats assuming 343i plans to release the audio again

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I'd be happy with a PDF

fair hazel
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Officially maybe they should. And that too.

fossil eagle
prime tendon
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What happened to the remaining Spartan III's?

humble yacht
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Some of them were removed from active duty. Others were incorporated into the Spartan Branch

versed helm
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Is Naomi the only other active duty spartan II besides chief and blue team?

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Oh pfft

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Red team

gilded mason
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Gray Team is active as well

versed helm
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Huh

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Guess i cant say that

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Oh yeah

woven plaza
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And Omega team

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maybe

keen warren
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Did they ever resuscitate Team Katana or are they still in stasis?

fair hazel
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Out of stasis

stable flower
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I wonder if surviving Spartan-IIs would be incorporated into the Spartan Branch.

tight wing
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So i'm reading Halo: First Strike

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I know that the Elite that Chief beats in the bridge was Thel
Why was he wearing jet black armor though? Isn't Thel the Supreme Commander? Shouldn't he be wearing gold colored armor? Or was this before they ever finalized the details on armor color and whatnot?

gilded mason
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I know that the Elite that Chief beats in the bridge was Thel
He isn't.

tight wing
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He isn't???

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Wasn't that suppose to be him though???

gilded mason
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That's never been confirmed anywhere

tight wing
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REALLY?

gilded mason
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Yeah

tight wing
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Huh. Where the hell did I get that idea from then

gilded mason
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It was a fan theory

tight wing
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So it's presumed that said Elite was a SpecOps elite then?

gilded mason
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So you probably heard it through the grapevine

gilded mason
tight wing
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Where was Thel then?
Isn't the ship that John and company are on is the Ascendant Justice?

gilded mason
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Thel would have been on his flagship 'Seeker of Truth', most likely.

fossil eagle
tight wing
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Isn't this the flagship though?

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It's said the ship John and company are currently in the process of hijacking IS a flagship

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I'm confused now

gilded mason
tight wing
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What ship are they on then?

gilded mason
fossil eagle
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Ascendant Justice isn't the fleet's true flagship.

tight wing
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OKAY

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So technically I was right. XD It just got retconned down the line.

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Not retconned--changed

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Retcon is a different word in this context.

stable flower
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Looks like the Second Ark Conflict will be endless

versed helm
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Naw chief will blow it up

strong tinsel
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Whats your favorite mjolnir helmet?

versed helm
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Mark IV

strong tinsel
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I like the aviator from infinite honestly

versed helm
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Not really big into helmets

valid hemlock
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same, 2nd place has to be mark v helmet

carmine sleet
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Mark VII, love how that thing looks

versed helm
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I like it

unique pine
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Covenant Empire was massive and quite industrious, it had numerous worlds as developed as Inner Colonies. Its territories were far more extensive than UNSC. Yet the High Capital flew right to locations close to the front line of war against humanity, does anyone know why? My theory is that the Shan Shyuum, particularly the Prophets, wanted to be as close and real-time as possible, and to intervene in case any important info about humanity or forerunners emerged to prevent it from leaking out to the empire at large, and supervised the war themselves instead of letting their military officials handle it to make sure no silver of info went by under their noses

carmine sleet
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High Charity had been the capitol of the Covenant long before the Human-Covenant War. I doubt they were flying it to locations close to the front lines to send in teams to perform cover ups on stuff like that. That's too risky to the leadership

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And it's not like High Charity was often at the front lines either, since it only really seems to end up there during Halo 2. And even then, the front line of the Human-Covenant War there is all of the Covenant fleet that protects the station vs a single UNSC ship. Plus there was the Halo, which has significant religious meaning to the Covenant

cobalt quiver
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What was the purpose of the Mark V B in lore? Unless the reason is being suited for Spartan III's

humble yacht
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A prototypical variant that was more modular, iirc

shrewd jewel
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wait so wtf is going on with cortana

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what happened between 5 and infinite?

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cause i want to know but i'd rather not put myself through that game

tight wing
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Hey guys

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I have a pedantic lore question

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Where was Thel when John captured the Ascendant Justice?

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Because it's confirmed that he went to Ascendant Justice to remind people that he's still in charge (after having arguments with the Prophet of Stewardship)

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Was it ever mentioned when he left?

vale pendant
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soo just a question. wasnt it in the lore that the brute species went in civil war with the events of halo 3

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as im suprised they have a somewhat high position post covenant

tight wing
tight wing
terse lava
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@vale pendant shortly before they were found by the Covenant in 2492, the Jiralhanae had fallen into a planetary Civil War, which reduced them to a pre industrial civilization. Later after the Covenant fell, various factions of them began new civil wars and raiding Sangheili colonies

spiral jewel
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I got to thinking, the Human Covenant War would have been a good opportunity to revive the Mobile Army Surgical Hospitals

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Assuming combat hospitals fell out of use at some point

versed helm
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same

minor sky
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Did Cortana and Chief's meeting go like this in EU lore or is this contridicting stuff?

dusty prawn
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Does anyone think that Rojka would have hated the Demon Three less if Glyke was blown up a month earlier, or do you think that he would have wanted retribution regardless?

cerulean ether
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Is there any known cases of covenant species giving humans a bad cold?

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Is there any lore of alien viruses?

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other than flood. but that's an entire different thing.

stable flower
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There's that bioweapon used in Nightfall

warm knoll
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I gotta be honest, I didn't think halo 5s story was bad at all

tepid barn
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It was the way it was executed

stable flower
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^

warm knoll
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What does that mean? Lol

The story itself is good, it makes sense for the direction it was going from 4. It all lined up pretty well.

If you're talking about Joe the marketing for the game was misleading, totally on board with that.

But everything else was fantastic

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Also if I had to nitpick it did end a bit abruptly, but that wasn't a story ruining thing

last anchor
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I just wanted more Blue Team.
We waited almost 15 years to see them in game and we got them for 3 levels
Boo.

unique rune
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I’m still just bothered by Cortana’s return, mainly.

And then there was ‘Mdama’s unceremonious first mission cutscene offing. Blegh.

stable flower
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And yet his Covenant continues despite his death.

unique rune
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I mean.
Why would it stop existing?

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It’s not like his followers joined out of some fanatical loyalty to him

gilded mason
stable flower
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Usually when the leader of a group dies, it causes it to mess up.

unique rune
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Sure, but it’s not like the remnant would just immediately dissolve

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There’d likely be power struggles with other ranking Sangheili trying to fill his position, maybe they’d break into smaller splinter groups, or just get assimilated into a larger Covenant remnant

carmine sleet
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Jul's Covenant did try to hold together, with multiple from within its ranks vying for leadership but ultimately, the death of Jul combined with the Arbiter's forces taking Sunaion caused it to fall

stable flower
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Don't forget the Prometheans turning on them

unique rune
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They aren’t going to all just pack up and go home immediately because the guy at the top died

carmine sleet
stable flower
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I was adding on to how it fell.

fair hazel
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Think of it like a cult as well.

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The zealotry is high

gilded mason
fair hazel
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And also like. They believe they’ve invested too much so they’re going to keep sticking. A lot of them.

carmine sleet
fair hazel
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Also remember that some switched before

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Sali 'Nyon

terse lava
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Kinda forgot he even exists

gilded mason
fair hazel
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Oh no

shrewd shard
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John 117 is a brainwashed soldier trained to a Spartan,Cortana is the person who took care of John 117 when he was taken away from his parents,UNSC needed someone to control the Spartans Behaviour, Attitude and Thinking and the close ones are given that responsibility ,Before the real cortana died her brain was copied to the AI we know now

versed helm
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And who might that be?

versed helm
shrewd shard
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thats a cover up

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All these Spartans are kids who were kidnapped at a very young age

versed helm
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Noooooo

shrewd shard
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They were all chosen to be Spartans at the start

versed helm
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We've only heard that in almost every single book involving the IIs

shrewd shard
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Cortana is John 117......Baby sitter

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when he was kidnapped

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they had someone to take care of him

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and it was Cortana

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So before the real Human her died

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Hasely copied her brain to an Ai

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That AI is the purple chick on Chiefs head we know now

versed helm
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I can't insert the meme I'm thinking about as I don't have the privileges but you should stop reading fanfics mate

shrewd shard
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Its not fanatics

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I just finished the Campaign Again

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and that hit me

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Oh btw I play GTA 5 I use mods to turn myself to join 117

versed helm
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Then you may work on your um... what's in called in English

terse lava
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You do realize that Cortana wasn't made until shortly before the battle of alpha halo right?

versed helm
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reading with understanding skills? I think that's it

versed helm
terse lava
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It wasn't

versed helm
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She began service in 49'

shrewd shard
versed helm
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And Alpha Halo happens in 2552

shrewd shard
terse lava
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She was created Nov 7, 2552

shrewd shard
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It was the finishing touch,the pillar of Autum was sent out in a hurry

versed helm
terse lava
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From a clone of Dr. Halsey's brain

shrewd shard
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They needed someone to Control John Cortana was the only Option

shrewd shard
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Hasely isnt Cortana

terse lava
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@versed helm ah, had forgotten about her journal, thanks

fresh fjord
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How does everyone have cool pfps

shrewd shard
versed helm
terse lava
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Halsey isn't Cortana, no, but Cortana is an AI made from the cloned brain of Halsey

fresh fjord
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But everyone has cool odsts

versed helm
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The Spartan II project only had one AI to oversee it which was called Deja

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but she wasn't a smart AI

fresh fjord
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Is rvb canon

terse lava
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No

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Its not canon

fresh fjord
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Because in h4 there is audio thing

terse lava
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Those are easter eggs

fresh fjord
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Ik

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But still

terse lava
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Like I said, RvB is non-canon

fresh fjord
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Dam

warm knoll
warm knoll
shrewd shard
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You serious? John 117 is a normal Spartan with more luck

versed helm
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Yes

carmine sleet
versed helm
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And Spartans been soldiers since like 6 lol

shrewd shard
carmine sleet
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Didn't need to tag me and Cortana was never made for stopping Chief from going rogue

warm knoll
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^

Not to mention, Cortana picked John, she wasn't assigned to John

terse lava
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Come to think of it, I don't recall precautions ONI had for dealing with a rouge spartan(s)

versed helm
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That's because they didn't do that till like 4s

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Well one S2 did but I'm 90% sure its some TV show BS

terse lava
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You mean Sorren? That was from Halo: Evolutions

versed helm
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Ah right, I only saw him in the show list and figured it must be from there

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given the... weird creative choices

main rivet
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It is kind of funny that circa season 6 they did look like they were going to tie RvB back to Halo canon, with the explanation for a lot of it just "these guys are idiots". But then they went waaaay further afield again and made sure there's no possible way it could fit.

shrewd shard
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What makes sure Real life soldiers dont go rogue?

versed helm
shrewd shard
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Because if they do people who they care will be given the responsibilty

versed helm
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Real soldiers aren't indoctrinated into killing rebels since the age of 6

strong tinsel
versed helm
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See, even ONI is confused

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Well technically spartan IIIs volunteered

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if a 6 year old can volunteer to kill aliens

shrewd shard
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Where is the meme channel?

warm acorn
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None because we don't want idiots posting oversensitive memes that may offend some people

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this is 2021, not 2007-2010 Xbox live toxicity chat

swift kelp
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^

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this is correct

shrewd shard
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Its the internet

strong tinsel
carmine sleet
versed helm
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Like Tucker giving birth to an Elite

valid hemlock
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wanna hear a shisno knock knock joke?

versed helm
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no

valid hemlock
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ok 😭

humble yacht
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The joke is that shisno can’t knock because it doesn’t have hands

valid hemlock
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can't tell you if it's true or not, my creators left me with shisno information based on jokes and insults about them

main rivet
carmine sleet
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Didn't need to tag me and those few things doesn't mean they were actively trying to make RvB part of Halo's lore. It was wildly inconsistent with what happens in Halo lore due to things like Tucker giving birth to Junior and the fact that everyone in the show back in those days wore Mjolnir armour despite not being super soldiers

viscid trout
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Crashed on zeta, most likely.

fair hazel
quartz patio
# shrewd shard Cortana is John 117......Baby sitter

Sorry to bring up an old argument, but the way you say that makes it seem as though Cortana is as old, or even older then the Chief. Cortana is a smart AI, with a limited lifespan of 7-8 years. There is no way Cortana could have been around when John was 6 years old, he is in his late forties in Halo Combat Evolved.

versed helm
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Nah he's like 41 in CE

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But yeah Cortana was created 3 years prior to CE

dull cairn
gilded mason
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His face looks pretty weathered in Halo 4 for somebody who's physically in his twenties.

dull cairn
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Im sure your face would look like that too if you wore armor 24/7, rarely removing your helmet

gilded mason
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Wouldn't it be the opposite, kinda? Sunlight ages your skin.

dull cairn
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That is true, but only to a degree

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You have to take into account how the helmet would stretch the skin. It has to be vacuum sealed, like a space suit.

wispy quest
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Is Tom and Lucy dead

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Just want to know

dull cairn
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When you rub your eyes, or wipe your tears, or any sort of motion like that, you tend to go away from the nose, which stretches the skin, causing wrinkles on the outer area of your eyes.

gilded mason
wispy quest
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yay

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I’m happy now thank you

dull cairn
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I rarely read the books, in fact, ive only read "the flood", so pardon me if this is explained in them, but does the covenant have a universal language?

gilded mason
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Ye

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Sangheili

keen warren
gilded mason
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I assume he gets those vitamins elsewhere

dull cairn
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If anything

gilded mason
dull cairn
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Interesting

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It always confused me during scenes like: Thel's trial and when he was brought to the mausoleum as to how they communicated so fluently.

keen warren
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They might have station based translators like in Star Trek.

dull cairn
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True

gilded mason
dull cairn
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It also made me curious, because recently, while playing halo 2 legendary (on the '01 xbox), during the beginning of the mission Delta I was cornered behind cover, and actually heard elites communicating a tactic.
"We go in together"
And shortly afterwards, 2 elite majors came out at 2 angles and killed me.

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So just curious if this was actually something common in the game

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Probably shouldve put this in a different channel

gilded mason
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Nah, it's fine

keen warren
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I would say this is a good place to ask.

dull cairn
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Ok

stable flower
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So what's the UNSCEF?

gilded mason
keen warren
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Who controlled the Forerunner installations after the great war? Were they banned, did each side have a certain amount, or did ONI screw everyone over.

gilded mason
humble yacht
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UNSC had a presence On known installations for decommissioning purposes

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SoS monitored delta halo

dull cairn
keen warren
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Wasn’t Alpha Halo the one destroyed? I thought that was why Guilty Spark flipped.

dull cairn
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Oh wait! It was O4's replacement that was blown up

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I think

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Cause it was under construction,which made it blow up when it was activated

keen warren
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That’s the one I was thinking of.

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Was it not also called Alpha?

dull cairn
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Yeah it was

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My brain just was thinking in terms of alphabetical order, so i was thinking alpha was 01

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Also... Whatever happened to the bodies within the mausoleum? I know there was a concept for chief fighting flood infected arbiters while on high charity, but was scrapped before being developed

stable flower
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No Delta Halo was quarantined by Covenant separatists

dull cairn
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which was a missed opportunity in my honest opinion

steel stone
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I was playing Halo 3 just yesterday only remains of that scrapped mission was the actual area seen in the background, shocked its still intact...well from what I can tell of the exterior...

stable flower
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I see the Viery Militia used a Desert Eagle. Interesting.

versed helm
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How many instances in the lore were there of people getting kicked in the groin?

velvet rose
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why is concussion rifle named that even though it can't concuss anything

craggy sierra
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Cause it produces a concussive blast

humble yacht
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How could you say something so controversial yet so brave

carmine sleet
obsidian thistle
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That new trailer was something right

misty wadi
carmine sleet
velvet rose
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😐

noble fjord
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Of the original 75 I think it was, how many Spartan 2s are left

velvet rose
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spartan V when

marsh tapir
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Wait

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Could it be possible that grunts played halo

hybrid juniper
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No?

unique pine
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how many huragok defected to UNSC? and why did they do that beside being treated better?

marsh tapir
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To help destroy the covenant?

hybrid juniper
marsh tapir
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I sadly know this man

hybrid juniper
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It's been a while since I read it so I could be wrong but I believe that Huragok can reproduce and repair each other as long as there is at least two so hypothetically they could have any amount. (Not 100% sure)

last anchor
# unique pine how many huragok defected to UNSC? and why did they do that beside being treated...

They wanted to fix things. The Covenant made them fix boring stuff like church steeples and holoprojectors and Prophet chairs.
The UNSC let them fix all kinds of cool stuff like garbage trucks and ODST helmets and giant multi kilometer long hybrid warships and Pelicans and depressed people's hearts.

Also Virgil probably said how cool a handler Sadie was and the rest of the Huragok were like "yeah, sweet, we're in"

last anchor
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Oh, wait, your talking about reproducing. Yes, basically two Huragok (preferably 3 as each gives its expereince and knowlage to the new one, making it overall a more effective Huragok) can spent a couple hours making another one.

shrewd shard
stable flower
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Would Miranda Keyes have made a good SPARTAN-IV?

carmine sleet
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Unknown

quartz patio
woven plaza
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I don't think H3 Miranda should've been anywhere near the front lines though

stark wave
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Hey guys I'm working on remaking the MA5C I'd really appreciate if some lore pro could help me clear up something!

On Halopedia it states that the MA5 series is a closed bolt system and that the charging handle moves during operation. I've checked all games and the charging handle never moves during firing only when reloading. Is this a discrepancy in lore vs games or is the charging handle not supposed to move while firing, am I misunderstanding something?

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Thanks for a quick answer! 🙂

valid hemlock
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interesting fact: in the halo lore the rounds on a covenant carbine are literally radioactive ones, so if one touches your body you'll need instant medic help or you'll die of blood poisoning

steep charm
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The Covenant really did just print out Waypoint threads, roll them up and stick them in a gun huh

valid hemlock
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yes, they truly did

tidal fossil
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I'd love to try a lore-accurate/realistic halo game where you play as a marine/trooper/odst and getting shot actually has a great impact

valid hemlock
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you'd literally die from one single bolt of a plasma pistol, no joke

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well, maybe two counting that spartans die in 3 shots

velvet rose
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portable micro-nuke launcher

ancient owl
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around what time did skirmishers go near-extinct?

gilded mason
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They never did.

carmine sleet
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Is the heat death of the universe a good answer for that one?

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But seriously, there is never a point in lore where the Skirmishers were nearly wiped out, that's just something people seem to run with to explain why we never saw them in Halo CE to 3

crimson acorn
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Naaah dude they all went on vacation for a couple decades. Took the whole skirmisher fam out to the super cool beach planet to hang out, obviously

keen warren
ancient owl
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🤔 i see

lethal light
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Too many of them got domed by a DMR.

tidal fossil
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the fear of dying would be intense

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maybe a horror spinoff where you are isolated and have to navigate past enemies, only using weapons as last-resort

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kinda like alien isolation

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add the flood to the mix and it's poifect

main rivet
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The bit about skirmishers going extinct is one of those quasi-canon prerelease magazine article things. It served as a convenient option for bungie to explain it away, but definitely never was firm canon (if it was a thing, we would have heard about it in the many appearances of the Skirmishers outside the game in the postwar era.)

wooden herald
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😳

versed helm
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Wait so is guilty spark alive or somethin?

rigid fiber
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I thought skirmishers were extinct

mint wing
gilded mason
versed helm
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How @mint wing

limber ember
mint wing
versed helm
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Bruh

limber ember
versed helm
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They get the usb treatment

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Cloud save mfs

mint wing
limber ember
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his damaged monitor was recovered by a UNSC ship

versed helm
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Also yea

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Brutes and drones kinda just left after reach

austere wren
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B-312 is active he lives ;)

versed helm
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And then came back swingin in inf

mint wing
austere wren
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Nope

mint wing
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Yes

austere wren
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Alive because you don't classify the dead and not include them in a statue to honor the fallen team of heroes

mint wing
mint wing
jovial heath
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Uppies

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Grunt goes uppies

limber ember
#

Halsey's epilogue confirms Six's death.

main rivet
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plot twist: Noble Six survived the Fall of Reach and died peacefully in his sleep two years before the epilogue 😛

spiral forge
#

It might be a weird question, but I remember hearing somewhere that the player's spartan in the 343 Halo games is actually part of the universe, but I can't really find any sources on that. Is that true?

surreal ginkgo
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Well, in spartan ops, crimson fireteam has our spartan as a member

main rivet
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Yeah your spartan exists to some degree in that the conceit of multiplayer is a real thing in the universe.

versed helm
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Rubicon*

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The ship later crash landed and Spark switched to an Armiger body

spiral forge
pine comet
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4, 5, and infinite I believe are like that

main rivet
#

yeppers

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although especially with Infinite it's worth noting that the exact timeframe of the war games simulations is never given.

pine comet
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True, we'll see how they handle it

sharp vault
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and maybe 1 to reach was like training exercises

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i think

terse lava
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At the time of their release no. Think 343 has tried to imply they are now exercises taking place at ANVIL Station

last anchor
candid forge
#

Someone tell me the wisdoms of the lore

woven plaza
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specifically

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spider tanks piloted by little children

honest trout
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Oh yeah those were fun

vale thicket
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Hello! Long time fan! Somethings always bugged me. How did sgt johnson leave the halo ring get back to earth and talk with bucks squad before the ship chief had boarded Arrived on earth. When i think it left first? Thanks in advance for the clarifications!

gilded mason
stable flower
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Forge would've made a great Spartan-IV. He literally fought a Spartan-II in a fist fight.

sullen goblet
#

So something I’ve always kinda wondered but haven’t gotten too deep into lore to know is what actually happens if a halo ring fires? I know it’s a super weapon that wipes out all life but how does it actually do that? What is the actually weapon once it turns on?

gilded mason
terse lava
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Also has the bonus of the blast being fast enough to ignore space and time. Hours before the array was fired, Alpha Halo reported to those Forerunners on the ark of receiving echos of its own pulse

versed helm
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Love the H4 lore

agile bloom
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Man i love lore of games so much

versed helm
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I love the concept and lord of the halo universe outside of master chief (his is cool too though at least before 4) but I like how it realistically draws from different perspectives

craggy sierra
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H4 chief is based

versed helm
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How are Covenant weaponry able to be fired if they don't have triggers?

gilded mason
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They do have triggers

versed helm
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I know about the Brute weaponry

gilded mason
#

I'm talking plasma weapons, too

versed helm
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Oh, show me

gilded mason
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Halsey talked about plasma weapon triggers in her journal, saying she couldn't figure out how the triggers and other things connected to everything else.

versed helm
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Alright

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Was Boren's Syndrome a real disease or was it fabricated by ONI to hide the fact that Johnson was a part of the ORION program?

gilded mason
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Seems like it was both a real disease, but also one that ONI used to cover up Johnson

versed helm
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Also, did Chief ever learn that Johnson was a member of the Orion Program?

gilded mason
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Don't think so

versed helm
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Or was he ever aware of the Orion program?

gilded mason
#

No idea there, either

rigid current
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Okay, I got a few questions about the Flood outbreak on Installation 05

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So the flood require biomass to sustain themselves and to create a gravemind, correct?

gilded mason
#

Yeah

desert merlin
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Yep

rigid current
#

Where did they get sufficient biomass

desert merlin
#

Wildlife

rigid current
#

I take it said wildlife was from the reseeding efforts?

desert merlin
#

I guess

rigid current
#

My only question is

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why would they put flood control labs and wildlife in the same place

desert merlin
#

Okay so would you expect some random faction thousands to millions of years later to be dumb enough to release something so gruesome?

rigid current
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I wouldn't take the risk, that's for sure

warped flame
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I just got done watching hiddenxperias video on zeta halo and holy crap, 343 has a lot of potential

rigid current
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The reason I ask is because I've got a friend who just absolutely refuses to believe my claims that the flood can exist on 05

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and that they should've starved out

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And is using the whole "facts and logic" sort of thinking

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You know the type

cold sun
pine comet
limber ember
#

Also, the Halo Rings were specifically designed to do a number of things. One of those was to act as a sort of ark and to contain various forms of life on their inner surface. Another is to contain the Flood and to study them in the hopes of one day finding an actual cure or way to combat them that doesn't involve resetting the universe.

versed helm
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I need an explanation for why in quarantine zone the sentinel's have been fighting the flood for 100,000 years even tho they were just infection forms as the only type of flood combat form we see are elite and human(the ones who just arrived on the ring) meaning the sentinel's can't kill simple infection forms.

tacit charm
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there was also a gravemind

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gg trying to outsmart that giant hentacle monster

versed helm
#

But like he's just a big tentacle monster it's not like it's invincible and in halo CE cortana says they have to destroy halo before spark finds another way to activate so why didn't the monitor before he got captured fire it himself?

pine comet
#

The monitor isn't allowed to activate the rings like that

limber ember
#

^

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Needs a reclaimer

pine comet
#

That's why he needed him in CE

limber ember
#

and to destroy the ring would be to destroy their purpose. Also likely limits against that

pine comet
#

Or else the monitor would've done it immediately

versed helm
#

So what was cortana on about in CE then?

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About spark activating the ring?

strong tinsel
#

How does the covenant get their scarabs onto a planet?

pine comet
#

He wasn't going to, he did say he was just gonna find another reclaimer if chief wasn't going to

limber ember
pine comet
limber ember
#

You see them drop in in Reach when you're doing the mongoose run

pine comet
#

And then yes, dropping them

strong tinsel
#

Id not like to be the grunt that gets crushed by a scarab falling from low orbit

pine comet
#

The crew probably gets on afterwards

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Probably happened more than once I'd bet

carmine sleet
marsh tapir
#

How did the elites learn to speak fluent english in between halo ce and halo 2

pine comet
# versed helm About spark activating the ring?

Just to answer your questions with the cutscene here as Guilty Spark says: "unfortunately my usefulness to this particular endeavor has come to an end. Protocol does not allow units with my classification to perform a task as important as the reunification of the index with the core. That final step is reserved for you Reclaimer." The Cortana bit was explained well by Mr. Slipstream there

pine comet
#

Although over the course of the war, they did learn about our language

fossil eagle
#

Damn it damn it damn it.
I just went on Halopedia to look at some technical specs on something and on the page was a Halo Infinite spoiler from the Game Informer video.
uggghhhhh

pine comet
#

That really sucks man I'm sorry to hear that

#

Screw game informer if they're genuinely spoiling it

dusky zenith
#

ngl the jackles where annoying on legendary they would snipe u from 50 meters in the air looking like they are trying to join faze

tight wing
#

I have a lore question

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Halo: CE

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Does the Covenant KNOW what the Chief is planning to do at the finale?

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Like, I know that the Covenant WANT to stop Chief because humanity-bad

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But like...do they know that Chief is actually TRYING to save them by destroying Halo?
Basically, does the Covenant know that Chief is trying to blow up Halo? And the reason why?

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They don't, right?

versed helm
#

The intro to Halo 2 basically has the Arbiter (Which was then the Supreme Commander of the Fleet that arrived at Halo) saying that by the time they figured out what he was up to, it was too late

tight wing
#

Hmmm okay.

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I mean it's kind hard to ignore the giant explosion from the Ring. XD

#

But I digress. OK.

versed helm
#

How do you mean?

tight wing
#

They figured it out
Who did? The Elites stationed at the Autumn? I guess maybe they transmitted information that the Demon was doing a meltdown on there and destablized it.

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I suppose that can be a thing. Not all Elites were dead when the reactor was about to blow up anyway so that's a maybe. But they definitely were after it exploded.

versed helm
#

He literally told you it was the Arbiter who figured it out among the others

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And Thel wasn't on the Autumn, he was busy with a dozen more issues

tight wing
#

Fair enough

limber ember
#

The covies have radios

tight wing
#

Hmm fair play. haha

versed helm
#

I can't remember exactly what were the SpecOps elites/grunts doing in the PoA before you arrive but chances are they probs got some comms out before dying

carmine sleet
#

They knew Chief was trying to destroy the ring but did not know why he was, since they believe he was doing it to stop the Great Journey

limber ember
#

they were actively fighting the flood. they knew

tight wing
#

Damn it, I'm going to have to re-read that section again with Zuka.

limber ember
#

The Osoona?

tight wing
#

No. Zuka, one of the best characters there is

carmine sleet
carmine sleet
tight wing
#

My man's wanted to be the main protagonist SO BADLY, but the plot didn't allow him to be

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He was a SpecOps Elite

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you're thinking of Isna Nosolee, the guy that gets shot by Keyes

limber ember
#

They didn't want to desroy it, but they knew why chief would. A) stop their great journey and B) kill the parasite

limber ember
#

oh

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oh yeah

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you right

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he got got by a 3-tap from keyes

tight wing
#

SpecOps, but yes. He got backhanded by the Hunter

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Zuka's mah boi. My man's was fighting for his life. Just couldn't get a DUB

limber ember
#

keep confusing those two together

#

lol, ngl in CEA I spent a good 30 minutes looking around that room with the hunters to see if they snuck in an invis body xD

tight wing
#

Oh hell, that would have been sweet

limber ember
#

but they didn't add the turret on the elevator either 😦

tight wing
#

I KNOW

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It's only in the CE version, the true version of the game

limber ember
#

wait, it was?

tight wing
#

Yep.

limber ember
#

I don't remember it

pine comet
#

Halo: The Flood is a very good book

tight wing
#

In the original PC version of Halo: CE there is a turret there

#

It's all there

pine comet
#

A lot of Halo books are good honestly

limber ember
pine comet
limber ember
#

I'd argue nearly all of the books are good. Not perfect, but they all bring something

#

still reading the newest book, but really enjoying it so far

pine comet
#

Ghosts of Onyx I think is my favorite

tight wing
#

I desperately want a novelization of Halo 2 and Halo 3

limber ember
#

❤️ Kurt

pine comet
#

maybe, hard choice

tight wing
#

I'm just starting on Ghost of Onyx

pine comet
limber ember
#

fantastic book, rovas.

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also my favorite

pine comet
#

Indeed, wonderful read

limber ember
#

oh, for the Kilo-5 and forerunner trilogies, highly recommend the audio books if you are struggling with distinguishing the characters or learning the new vocab

tight wing
#

I just got past the prologue

pine comet
#

I've been trying to collect all the books somewhat recently

limber ember
#

and the audio book for Evolutions has Jen Taylor read Human Weakness, my favorite of the short stories. Covers Cortana's interrogation by the Gravemind between H2 and H3

tight wing
#

Lucy just lost her voice and

tight wing
#

lol

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Lucy and Tom be like 12 years old kids go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

pine comet
tight wing
#

Me too!

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I have 11 as well. XD 12 if you include Halo: The Graphic Novel

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I'm planning on buying the rest on Amazon and the shipping fee is making me go UWAHHHH

pine comet
#

Nice

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I need to get around to reading my shadows of reach novel so I have context for infinite

limber ember
#

I've got al the books up to the forerunner trilogy and kilo-5, as well as the comics and graphic novels. Everything past that is ebook

pine comet
#

I personally like physical copies of stuff but that's nice man

limber ember
#

just much easier to read a few pages on my phone

#

I like physical books, too

pine comet
#

I still need the forerunner trilogy

limber ember
#

^has some of the best twists of the franchise and really make me terrified of the Flood

#

they're pretty dense, though

pine comet
#

I know about some stuff in it, really seems interesting

#

Yeah I hear that too

#

Idk if I'll love reading them like the others but I still like knowing every little detail about Halo

versed helm
tight wing
#

...Was I imagining that

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I remember there being one.

versed helm
#

Not in the OG Xbox version nor the Gearbox PC Port

tight wing
#

Huh....maybe I was just misremembering it.

#

After playing the game and then reading the novel, maybe my memory just combined the two

limber ember
#

yeah, the turret was never there from my memory

#

played OG in '01, lol

tight wing
#

Yeah maybe I just bamboozled myself

#

I suppose Zuka really stuck to me that heavily haha

versed helm
#

Yeah same here, I played both when they released. It's possible you're confusing it with another situation with a turret but yeah

limber ember
#

woulda been neat to throw there

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a single grenade woulda dealt with him though, tbh xD

#

sent that turret spinning xD

pine comet
#

I also don't recall a turret but that part in the book was still nice

#

And that little grunt dude taking a ghost and some methane, driving off and enjoying his last moments in peace

#

Man I remember how much I loved their dynamic

limber ember
#

hahaha

#

love him xD

#

oh, what was his name?

#

yayap?

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dadab?

pine comet
#

They're all similar enough I honestly don't remember

tight wing
#

Yayap was by far the most chill Grunt and I genuinely feel for him

#

That guy...he was good in my book. XD

#

Unfortunately, he got vaporized.

limber ember
#

most of the named grunts they introduce are dope

#

love the one dude in one book who was on sentry duty and was just like "perfect time to nap!"

tight wing
#

It's Grunts like Yayap that make me feel bad for killing them

tight wing
#

Their squeaky high pitch voice makes it all the more adorable in a way.

#

Goodness mio, I wish we had grunt allies in Halo 3. Just the banter between grunts and marines would be very amusing.

limber ember
#

lol, silent shadow or whichever book it is introduced a hillarious grunt character

#

basically macho buff grunt

tight wing
#

Or just grunt allies in general. Their dialogue in Halo 5 is freaking great.

pine comet
#

I also really liked the Deacon grunt

#

I believe he was in the contact harvest novel?

limber ember
#

yeah, Deacon was dope. and yeah, Contact Harvest

vale pendant
#

what ever happened with the janus key storyline in halo 5

#

no mention of it even in the start

tacit charm
#

it disappeared

signal ether
tacit charm
#

like spartan ops season 2

vale pendant
#

oh kinda lame

tacit charm
#

honestly

#

good riddance

limber ember
#

it coulda been cool

pallid plank
#

Anyone else mad that literally all the lore is more dependent on the books rather than the games itself

#

Like if you’re gonna kill a protagonist like Rookie atleast show it in game not disrespectfully kill him off in a book thats hard to find

lost spear
#

what's the problem with the books

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ok i can agree with that one

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bad blood was a good book tho

pallid plank
#

Not saying they’re bad just saying that its kinda bad the lore is more dependent on the books

signal ether
#

no, i really like the incorporation of the books and games into a more cohesive whole, though the execution of communication of events that happens in books could be better

lost spear
#

if major plot points are there in the novels it pushes you tk go deeper into it

limber ember
#

I also love the inclusion of the books and EU into the lore and how they inform each other. I do agree that the games shouldn't rely heavily on the books, but they should freely allude to stuff the books cover.

Tolkein had a habit in his writing to tell about a location, but not show it. so like he'd name a far away place and it would exist as a name over there on the horizon, but he'd never go there. Made the world feel bigger and more rooted

#

Name drop those other characters or events so people search them out, but maybe not require the reading beforehand

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but rewarding the prior reading? 100% endorse

pine comet
#

I do really love the books but I agree that communicating them to the game itself if it's something important would be nice

#

especially when blue team killed the Didact in a book

willow helm
#

Yeah, I didn’t even realize the didact was alive until the release of Halo 5

unique pine
#

Jud Mdmam was killed by that spartan during the mission to rescue halsey catherine, but is there a novel or something prior to his death, something to show his last thoughts as his forces were losing against the prometheans, unsc and swords of shangelios?

main rivet
#

Nope. Not at present.

unique pine
#

Are there novels where we see the interactions and POV of Thel besides Halo the Cole Protoclo?

limber ember
fair hazel
#

Comic. Not book.

fair hazel
deep pewter
#

The care for rookies death is 100% rooted in number company bad rhetoric

willow flower
#

GRRM kills fan favourite character unexpectedly to show the chaos of life: "Omg such a brave and incredible writer!"

343 kills off a fan favorite character unexpectedly to show the chaos of war: "Argggghhh I hate number company"

covert dawn
stable flower
#

Rookie is Gordon Freeman in a space military 500 years later

covert dawn
# deep pewter The care for rookies death is 100% rooted in number company bad rhetoric

For me I'm just a huge fan of odst and while the game didn't give rookie much there were small things like him whistling to virgil that started giving him a little personality. I kept up with the expanded stuff like dirt too that gave him some more matrrial and would've liked to see him evolve further if he had lived to reappear in a games. That wasted potential to a character i had gotten endeared to is why him dying in a book made me upset

#

Although i do like new blood and bad blood i just wish he didn't go from surviving city full of munky to capped in the head by karen

unborn zealot
#

Is the new book divine winds any good?

fresh bolt
grizzled solstice
unborn zealot
keen warren
limber ember
grizzled solstice
limber ember
#

I mean, I generally like all of them. Uhh, the books following Rion Forge and Spark are really good and there's a handful of them

grizzled solstice
#

That's good to know. I plan to catch up on all of them... eventually. I recently finished the Dresden Files and I need another huge series to chew through.

main ridge
#

So has anyone draw a parallel between "The Weapon" and Offensive Bias. both are Ai's designed to counter another after one went rouge.

#

do you think that's something that could come up through out the game?

unborn zealot
#

I read through the forerunner saga of books the story got kinda confusing halfway through as there were so much moving parts in the story

main ridge
#

the UNSC was on the ARK doing research do you think they got the idea from Mendicant Bias himself or perhaps guilty spark even.

grizzled solstice
#

I think it's certainly possible as they have many parallels. I do hope however that they don't make a huge deal of that if they do. As important as the Forerunner Saga is to the universe it is... dense. It doesn't lend itself well to game tie ins in my opinion. Not only that, but I think the "human" drama of Cortana being replaced and hunted by her former partner and a "younger" version of herself just seems to great to pass up.

unique pine
#

I still do not get it though

#

where did the AI the Weapon come from?

#

how did they manage to develop her? how can she manage to fight against an AI that has evolved and has the computing/processing power of much more powerful software and hardware, not to mention the knowledge she possesses now with the access to domain

#

what can the Weapon even do?

carmine sleet
#

We'll no doubt find out when Halo Infinite releases

#

But from what we know, she is most likely created using a cloned brain of Halsey, like how Cortana was

valid hemlock
grizzled solstice
#

Potential spoilers for Shadows of Reach.

||Blue team went to reach to recover something Halsey left behind. They never say what it was, but everyone gets real squeamish when they talk about it. I personally think that they were retrieving either the prototype for the Weapon, or, as Slipstream Technician said, a clone of Halsey's brain to make her.||

carmine sleet
#

Shadows of Reach has been out for over a year, you don't need to hide anything from that novel

dusty prawn
#

they were little cryo containers and I doubt they were hands or kidneys, in addition to something with swords on it, which is likely some curtana or swordbase reference

carmine sleet
#

It was Sword Base's logo, not anything with literal swords

limber ember
dusty prawn
gilded mason
#

It's been a theory since the idea of a second Cortana after H5 came out.

limber ember
#

fun fact, Cortana is named after a sword

versed helm
#

Most boring lore is Gears of War

main ridge
#

The fact this AI is just named the weapon really shows how the UNSC feels about AI rn

versed helm
#

Maybe she didn't name herself

#

I mean Black Box only is named Black Box because he choose to be a Box lol

main ridge
#

to be fair gears doesn't need lore. gears selling point is "we put a chain saw on a gun, go kill a bug man"

west owl
#

Does chief know any martial arts?

main ridge
#

based on that scene from halo 5 he is at least proficient in hand to hand on some level.

#

to be fair when you are a genetically engineered super human in a 1 ton suit, your technique does not need to go much farther than "punch em hard"

grizzled solstice
#

I don't know if they ever mention any specific martial art, but it's safe to assume that he would be more than proficient in whatever Chief Mendez taught in Dr. Halsey's School for Displaced Youths.

versed helm
#

Stop giving credits to Halo 5. It was a mess from A to Z, except 3 or 4 ost and sanghelios

west owl
#

Who gave any credits to h5? We're just discussing if chief knows any martial arts

main ridge
#

I thought the MP in five was actually pretty well done

west owl
#

It was

deep pewter
west owl
#

It would be cool if chief knew some kicks tho

versed helm
#

I was talking about the campaign , we are in the lore and universe channel

#

Not the mp

main ridge
#

MP has lore implications

#

the maps, the game modes, the armors

limber ember
#

it's mentioned some in First Strike

#

as he's wrastlin' a brute

versed helm
#

Sometimes I wonder why Brutes lost most of their fur post-Halo 2. I get that redesigns exist but I highly doubt Brutes evolved fast enough to lose their hair in Halo canon

gilded mason
#

Brutes shaving their fur is a thing they sometimes do in lore, if nothing else.

versed helm
#

so basically Tartarus and his clan just decided to not shave at all?

west owl
gilded mason
limber ember
#

Halo 5's story had some good moments. Definitely feels like the supposed rewrite of the story late into development show their stretching points and is true. It definitely could have been better but it's not totally irredeemable.

#

if the rewrite is true, I kinda view H5 as a victim of the industry

versed helm
#

Oh no

#

I heard something about how Halo 5 was partially made by Gears of War devs who were then fired after Halo 5's launch not being good

#

they teasing the Halo show for tommorow

#

Dear Lord, why is that still a thing

west owl
#

Oh forgot about the show

versed helm
#

Inb4 people discover that a System Shock TV Show is literally in development (I'm not kidding). Sometimes I wonder why TV/movie adaptations of games even exist

versed helm
limber ember
versed helm
#

it was a good day before I was reminded about its existance

limber ember
#

the premise for the show is just so... why

#

it's like a whole retcon of everything

versed helm
#

You mean the Halo show retcons a lot of things? thats just... no

#

It retcons like every major character in the games tho

#

adds some random BS too

#

wait even Sgt Johnson?

#

I think they making Johnson some random white dude

limber ember
#

keyes is black now I think, but I'm holding judgement on the actor's performance.

The thing that really confuses me is the whole bit about how one of the main characters is a human-hating human who joined the covenant.

y'know, a thing that is explicitly forbidden.

velvet rose
#

i opened this chat and what

versed helm
#

Wasn't Vale also a child on some Elite world?

#

both cases sound rather... dumb

gilded mason
#

Post-war

limber ember
gilded mason
#

Now that part was pretty bad. Apparently when she was a small child stuck on a ship, she taught herself Sangheili so well that she knew it even better than the AI on the ship.

versed helm
#

Ah right

#

I got it wrong

#

Thought she crash landed when she was a kid

raw pollen
#

it wasn't even a bad story

#

yes maybe a few things were wrong but it wasn't a big mess like you said

pine comet
#

The story you can debate with but I can say for a fact that cutscenes, minus the first one, were very badly done

#

Comparing to other games, the characters felt lifeless and had no body language. Very stiff overall

west owl
meager osprey
#

I swear if Jun and Mickey isnt in halo infinite ima cry.

#

Id love to see a few parts of bad blood in infinite

pine comet
#

Also the portrayal of elites in 4 and mainly 5 were criminal. Basically the brute replacement

stable flower
#

They're part of the EU now

pine comet
stable flower
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Do Covenant remnant factions have beef with each other (excluding the Banished and Swords of Sanghelios)?

dusty prawn
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speaking of portrayal of elites, I bet they don't have a strong history of wind instruments played via the mouth

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but I could be wrong

frigid rose
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Halo reach best halo don’t @ me

pine comet
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They can pronounce the letter M even though it should be impossible so I mean who knows

limber ember
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Reach is great. my only grievance with it is how it crapped all over the books :/

keen warren
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They probably have a lot of digeridoos and other wide mouth wind instruments.

limber ember
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bagpipes that you bite

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lol

pine comet
tacit charm
unborn zealot
true trout
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Lore Question: Did the Forerunners have any sort of religion? I've always loved the series' theme on faith, curious if it pops up in canon for them bois

plain girder
shut dew
true trout
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Omfg lol

stable flower
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Didn't Jorge and Emile have beef?

limber ember
pine comet
limber ember
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no time to hate when you've got a mission

lunar bronze
tulip steppe
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I have a lore question....how exactly were the Forerunners able to defeat the Precursors?

willow flower
limber ember
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yeah. it was like your second-most-beloved dog going kujo and going for your neck. They had an absolutely massive fleet and left nothing to chance. total scorched earth.

last anchor
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Threw everything but the kitchen sink at em, then threw the entire kitchen, plus sink

plain girder
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It’s odd the precursor didn’t witness the forerunners building such a massive army and wonder why they were

tacit charm
tulip steppe
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are the Flood descended from the Precursors?

keen warren
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They are the Precursors.

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The flood came into being when precursor dust was fed to animals.

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Sorry, I’m too distracted to elaborate properly.

barren narwhal
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What did the jackels do after the covenant fell did they just join with whoever?

gilded mason
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They did whatever, different groups joined whoever they felt like.

prime tendon
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Do we have any guesses as to who the non banished Covenant are? Who do they pledge to and what's their whole deal?

terse lava
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Various groups with various plans. We have a Sangheili in Halo: Envoy commeting how there are at least a hundred warlords,each leading different faction. All claiming to be "The Covenant."

stable flower
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Take Jul and the Julettes for example.

strange onyx
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Hey I know there's a Bar on The Infinite for H5 Dialog but can't imagine WERE, also what more can serve? Sangheili food mb as well? idk I just like to imagine what spartans do in their free time.

tulip steppe
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but the flood don't have the pure power the precursors had right?

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even though they are precursors? corrupted precursors

pine comet
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They don't have the same precursor power

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They're something entirely different

frigid birch
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Aren’t the flood corrupted precursor dust or something?

pliant imp
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I have a kind of random question for everyone
I have been working planning a full back tattoo for quite a while, I have a plan for it and already commissioned the piece. The idea is it to incorporate a lot of details from the books and focus on Cortana
But one of my original intentions was to include a phrase from the Cortana letters into it. Specifically "oh your poet Elliot was wrong"

I am curious if there has been any comments from 343 regarding the state of those letters. I can find some stuff, but nothing super concrete or if these are just forgotten

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Or community consensus, it seems like most people don't even know they exist

frigid birch
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Wish I could help, but this sounds foreign to me. I want to check it out though! Thanks

pine comet
frigid birch
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@pine comet cool

pine comet
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Yep, ancient humans experimented with it on their equivalent of dogs pretty much and you can easily assume the rest

frigid birch
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@pine comet thanks for explaining 🤙

pine comet
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Anytime

prime tendon
limber ember
bright owl
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Didn't the arbiter invade the leaf village in dragon piece:re, how to train your dragon 3 cross-over event

fair hazel
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Some stuff from the cortana letters found its way into canon pretty sure

tulip steppe
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so this Escharum guy that were going to face....is he related to Atriox in any way?

gilded mason
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Atriox's old mentor

tulip steppe
gilded mason
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No

tulip steppe
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Atriox is the leader?

gilded mason
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Yes

tulip steppe
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do you think we'll fight Atriox too in Infinite?

gilded mason
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No idea

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Maybe he'll die offscreen. 😌

stable flower
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Maybe they'll Jul him (which I hope they don't do)

terse lava
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Plot twist, he kills all of blue team. It will show how tough and merciless he-have we been here before?

gilded mason
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A bit familiar. 😎

terse lava
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Black team: this hurts us

limber ember
willow flower
ashen abyss
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Can someone explain me what is the concept or science behind the MJOLNER shields and the Elite's Shield.

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Do they involve plasma layers controlled by magnetic fields?

fiery wraith
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is Locke and his team just gone in infinite

bitter cloak
fast gull
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@fiery wraith we have seen concept art from 343 of a Brute cheiftan with Locke's helmet as a shoulder pad

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Pobrs a bait

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to try to make us think he is dead

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But yes it seems characters are returning

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tho they may not be on screen much

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but exist in the universe more so

lean vortex
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Hope Bucks not gone anyway

fast gull
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Yh

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I like Buck

lean vortex
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I know they did a book with buck and the rest of the ODST squad set after halo 5 but I cant remember what happened in it

fast gull
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I know

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that in the latest book

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apparently some characters I think Cheif

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go back to Reach

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to retreive something

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people say they went back to reach to get the "weapon"

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as Dr Halsey made multiple AI versions of herself

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Cortana I think is the only one we have seen

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but its clear the AI cheif was sent to get was the weapon

lean vortex
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Yeah I heard there was another one like Cortana that was like a beta that was decomissioned

fast gull
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I beleive 3 versions existed

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they probs wont cover it in game

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THO

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ign said there are many call backs

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in game

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so MAYBE

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we see Reach

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somehow?

lean vortex
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Yeah unless the new AI is one of the other versions

fiery wraith
willow flower
lean vortex
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It would be cool to see that mountain on reach with the glass beam strip that cut through it

fast gull
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yh

lean vortex
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Could make for an intresting multiplayer map

fast gull
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YES

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they went back to new mombasa

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Why not reach

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Rumors are the early MP

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only will have 10 maps

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and the rest are launched with campaign

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I think the other 10 may have campaign spoilers

lean vortex
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Whens the campaign relase?

fast gull
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@lean vortex 8th dec

lean vortex
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ah ok

fast gull
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but demo apparently should release today

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with MP

lean vortex
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oh cool

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I mean they could proabably edit map discriptions to avoid spoilers cause we have seen maps in the past that have nothing to do with the campaign

fast gull
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but

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what if the MAP takes PLACE in a campaign area

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like how reach Mp was based on campaign maps

lean vortex
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Lie

fast gull
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so maybe there is a mp map in the control room

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maybe?

lean vortex
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just say its the aftermath of some random battle then when the campaign comes out and people find it be like "SIKE WE FOOLED YAS"

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I know they probably wont do that anyway but could be cool

fast gull
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Just saw someone's concept for Infinit arour

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armour*

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crazy good

high summit
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got any photos

fast gull
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they dont let me link

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in halo discord

high summit
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what a shame

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also would it be a shot in the dark to say we could possibly see the rings monitor in the campaign? theres no way it doesnt have one

versed helm
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The Monitor is existing

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nobody found him yet tho

high summit
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hmm, he could be hiding from prying eyes

carmine sleet
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Pretty sure that Rion Forge and Spark found the monitor during the most recent novel that featured those two

high summit
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never got a chance to read the novel, should probably go take a look

versed helm
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they found a sub monitor that told them that the main monitor isn't present

high summit
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so the rings main monitor isnt at the ring?

carmine sleet
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Didn't need to tag me and I see

versed helm
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Nobody knows where he is

high summit
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so his location is just unknown, hmmm

knotty osprey
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I'm trying to get through the Forerunner trilogy atm. The first one is pretty neat.

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So far, my favourite quote: "Forerunners love hats."

tacit charm
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and my favourite part is forerunners sucking off other realities to power their tech

wide pendant
# high summit so his location is just unknown, hmmm

he could be turn off in resting mode, much like the monitor in halo 4 Ring ( you see him in the Artifact room) so he may be offline in a room that only he has access to like the Library area or the flood Research area of the ring.

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which make me wonder if we Might! see a unbroken Flood Research base area or something that we may get in a later DLC add on

wide pendant
unique rune
wide pendant
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it almost made me think it was 343 GS

unique rune
wide pendant
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ah ok

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i just thought it was since i guess there could b e diff type of Monitors

vale pendant
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why does a slispace in atmosphere cause there to be low temprature and snow?

wide pendant
vale pendant
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in the cutscene from H2A when it jumps

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it shows a scene of cars broken on the road with white snow flying by

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or it looks like snow

untold kettle
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Ash?

vale pendant
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looked white

wide pendant
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oh that not snow that like hmm plasma?

untold kettle
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Ash can be white

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If it burns hot enough, if its a low heat burn the ash is darker

wide pendant
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since there was a Crater at that spot where regret slipjump

untold kettle
wide pendant
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idk being honest i dont think it ash, and i think that the second time we ever see or read a slipjump in atmosphere, but it was never talk about in other games

untold kettle
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It could be snow, cant rapid decompression cause frost and such to form? And id think a slipspace hole would be a form of decompression sense the other end leads to space

knotty osprey
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So I'm about an hour away from finishing the first novel. Do we ever find out what the primordial was that humanity used to chit-chat to before offing themselves?

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Also, probably best to ask, but do we need spoiler tags in this channel?

scarlet hinge
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Probably best off not asking questions like that until you've finished the sequels 😉

wide pendant
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Agree

knotty osprey
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😳 i might've just googled it and ohhhhhhhhhhh boy

wide pendant
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If u want like more details on that I would say look up installation 00 Chan on youtu e @knotty osprey

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He did a vid talking about what it said to the humans.

knotty osprey
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oo i'll check it out after i finish this one

wide pendant
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👍

unique pine
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Are there novels more about where we can read from Thel's POV? Halo the Cole Protocol is the only one as far as I remember

wide pendant
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I think that book the only one where he play a huge role in it

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He does show up in a few other books but it was just to give orders

scarlet hinge
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there is the Shadow of Intent novella which is set from the PoV of Rtas, though

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and by Joseph staten, to boot

ashen abyss
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Will Infinite have Flood? or is it spoilers, I have completed till 3 only

scarlet hinge
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it probably won't

ashen abyss
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I don't believe that the Flood is totally destroyed in the 3's Ending

scarlet hinge
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it follows on with what happened to the High Charity wreckage after Halo 3

ashen abyss
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Ok

ashen abyss
humble yacht
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Look up energy shields on halopedia

wide pendant
scarlet hinge
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i'll drop this link, as it explains in much more detail than you can on discord

ashen abyss
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Thanks

limber ember
ashen abyss
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You're right not knowing is better

velvet rose
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why do the brutes suddenly lack most of their hair since halo 3

scarlet hinge
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tribal customs

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on the part of the developers, likely a way to show their change from a primitive civilisation to a more professional army as they were elevated by the Prophet of Truth

velvet rose
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would kinda make sense

scarlet hinge
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in lore, it's just one of those things that changes based on a given clan or tribe's particular customs; in reality you'd have a huge variety in the field. More professional groups are likely more regimented and clean-shaven like real-world militaries, while less disciplined packs might be less bothered

velvet rose
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makes sense

unique pine
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beard? primitive

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what a halo logic moment

wide pendant
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Lol

scarlet hinge
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Well there's usually a reason why militaries IRL have fairly strict standards for facial hair in terms of styles and length

wide pendant
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Just a thought why haven't Cortana even try to put a guardians at the ark? She has to know oni and the unsc has a base there, since she know all the top black ink sites.

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She has control of the ark portal and it was active before she turned it off

scarlet hinge
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if she's pointing a Halo at the head of the galaxy, it might well be more beneficial for her to just leave the Ark inaccessible to regular people

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And she's still bound by some amount of communications lag, presumably - so she can't be omnipresent at the ark

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SoR already nerfed the Created's ability to be omnipresent even within the galaxy

wide pendant
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Hm..still I'm surprised she hasn't use that ai that there over to her side to watch over for her

scarlet hinge
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Tragic Solitude?

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she died in Hunters in the Dark

wide pendant
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No

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The one in hw2

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I forgot her name

scarlet hinge
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Isabel?

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around the time Halo 5 was going on, the portal to the Ark shut down through circumstances we don't know

wide pendant
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Ya her she could of contact her like how she was able to get with other ai even the one that watch over spartan

scarlet hinge
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I'd infer from this that Cortana is unable to reach the Ark - or at least doesn't consider anything there worth the effort of sending forces there

wide pendant
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Still it wouldn't be hard for her to send a message

scarlet hinge
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it takes months for messages to be sent from the Ark back to Earth

minor bluff
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how is the british nobility still existent for Hood to be a lord

wide pendant
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True, but she has forrunner tech

scarlet hinge
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Forerunner tech isn't a perfect button to solve everything

midnight loom
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But precurser tech on the other hand...

scarlet hinge
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Evidently, she's unable to connect to the Ark - or at least isn't interested in what it has to offer vs. how much it would take to get there

minor bluff
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like seriously how does the title of lord persist into the 2500s

scarlet hinge
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Remember, the Created can plan on a timescale of tens of thousands of years

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so whether they take the Ark now or in a century's time isn't that big a deal to them

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it's only been a year since Halo 5 in universe, and most of that time has likely been spent just pacifying the major points of resistance

minor bluff
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also whats the point of the tower things on the halos that shoot pulses into the center of the ring

wide pendant
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She still doesn't have control of onyx it seem

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Uh....noclue prob for show unless halo the flood talk about it more better

scarlet hinge
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or just thermal vents

minor bluff
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also what are they even called

scarlet hinge
minor bluff
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chad halopedia user

scarlet hinge
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chad halopedia admin 😎

minor bluff
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yo really?

scarlet hinge
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ye

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i mostly write the cut content articles atm

minor bluff
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sick

lone mist
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Qué tan importante es terminar halo wars 2 antes de infinite?