#lore-and-universe

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tepid barn
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Reaches lore is

versed helm
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irl glassing would sound cool

wispy prawn
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True

versed helm
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just wont be fun to be headshotted straight after it

carmine sleet
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Being glasses is definitely not cool, you'd be flash fried by the plasma beam, if you're lucky maybe there will be something that resembles a corpse left over afterwards but it's not something that you'd want to have happen to you

versed helm
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nah i wanna see from a distance

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not literally be in it

wispy prawn
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Agreed

tacit pecan
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She was asking the Cortana fragment which member of Noble Team she wanted to guard her and get her to the Autumn. By this point, she had also already chosen the Chief as her partner over the other available Spartan-II's.

gilded mason
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Yup

inland jackal
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Yee

woven plaza
inland jackal
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Is blamite salt a suitable cooking ingredient?

dawn knot
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I don't think blamite keeps on exploding into smaller chunks for eternity

woven plaza
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Blamite Salts might be like table salt, aka more stable

steep charm
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Could it still send the cook into the ER if they oversalt your soup?

woven plaza
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đŸ€·

versed helm
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im gonna oversalt the earth

fair hazel
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Just because something is a salt doesn’t make it edible..

versed helm
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Just because something isn't edible doesn't mean I'm not gonna eat it

terse lava
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What...the

tepid barn
dawn knot
jovial heath
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what happen to all the other monitors

humble yacht
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fair hazel
versed helm
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just because it says do not eat doesnt mean im gonna listen

wispy prawn
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Just because halo lore isn’t edible doesn’t mean that I won’t devour it.

versed helm
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what if captain keyes was actually alive and he faked his death cause he is the gravemind dont take this seriously

frozen field
versed helm
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im just imagine keyes face as a gravemind

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would be the scariest thing to see

wispy prawn
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Scarabs are just Australian spiders that can shoot lasers

tacit charm
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Scarabs are just giant glorified pickaxes tashi

unique rune
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They’re the Covenant equivalent of bolting a Bofors AA gun to a bucket-wheel excavator

versed helm
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what degree does master chief have?

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I'm sure he's pretty smart, since yk he's a really good leader

honest trout
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He never went to college

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He was abducted as a child

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But yeah he’s pretty much a genius

versed helm
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ah right, but don't spartan-II's learn lots of stuff?

craggy sierra
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I mean they're crosstrained on more vehicles than I think normal marines are.

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But that's kinda it

tepid barn
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There was a AI named deja (was that her name?) teaching them

versed helm
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lol imagine if every spartan was a 1000x smarter than halsey

warm acorn
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What happened to Keyes after the events in Halo 3?

versed helm
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miranda keyes?

warm acorn
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Captain Keyes

versed helm
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he died in halo 1

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due to the flood

warm acorn
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Oh wait

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the captain on Halo 3 was Hood

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gosh i suck at remembering the names of NPCs

versed helm
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I'm not sure what happened to hood after halo 3, he probably got promoted to a higher rank or something

tacit charm
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ah yes he somehow gets promoted higher than the highest rank in the unsc that hes already achieved postums

dusty escarp
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what's up. I need a halo lore expert hahah I have some questions

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Did the covenant fear master chief?

craggy sierra
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Kinda sorta not really?

terse lava
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Depends on the individual, the warrior races saw him as a threat, while the lower races truly did fear him.

craggy sierra
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I mean they knew enough of him to give him a title as the demon. I don't think anyone besides grunts actively fear him more than any other combatant in combat.

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Even then I think they called all Spartans demons

terse lava
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They did, chief simply got the title of The Demon, after alpha halo

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That could though also just be chalked up to the Covenant as a whole believing the rest perished on Reach

humble yacht
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But that was an insult

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But one with a modicum of respect smirkle

dusty escarp
terse lava
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Eh who knows, hopefully leave the story as she should have in h4

dusty escarp
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lmfao

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@terse lava btw whats your favorite campaign story wise?

humble yacht
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I’m going to guess 1/3 of h2’s campaign

terse lava
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Shush Chim😛 id say though perhaps Uprising, plenty of allies and vehicles to have fun in. From a pure narrative standpoint, hard to beat 343 GS

humble yacht
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Those are levels, not really campaigns

terse lava
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Yeah, did misunderstand that at first. For an entire campaign....would say a toss up between Thel's story and halo 4. One shows someone's road to redemption, while the other expands on that idea of Cortana bring more then just a simple AI

humble yacht
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H4’s is also good because it shows that Chief is capable of failure to a degree

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He doesn’t always escape unscathed

dusty escarp
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I think Halo 4 is NOTHGING compared with 1-3

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but again I haven't played it in a while

carmine sleet
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Comparing a single campaign against 3 all at once is a bit unfair, no?

unique rune
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Only about half of those three campaigns are any good anyway

terse lava
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So just the ones with Thel? While thrbhorse bones may be dust now, 1-3 didn't add much of anything to character build for chief, it was all Thel

dusty escarp
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Wdym character build

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it didn't add because it wasn't the purpose of it

prisma steppe
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I didn’t enjoy the events of Halo 4 very much, but I do enjoy the lore as a whole. I think the return of the forerunners was interesting.

dusty escarp
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One of the appeals of chief is that you don't have a wiki full page of info on his personality that you can read for days

terse lava
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I am aware he's essentially just an empty suit for the player. I simply find that dull

unique rune
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So just the ones with Thel?
I was mostly thinking CE and the Arbiter’s half of 2.

Thel is present in 3, but it’s generally not very significant.

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One of the appeals of chief is that you don't have a wiki full page of info on his personality that you can read for days

Is being completely devoid of meaningful character actually a point of appeal?
Blech.

earnest topaz
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In a power fantasy, yes.

fair hazel
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Ew

fair hazel
humble yacht
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Bungie’s philosophy on player characters is largely empty shells for player insert but that doesn’t mean it’s the best philosophy

versed helm
humble yacht
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I find empty shells boring, I want my characters to have character

dusty escarp
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specially the final mission

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It's the definition of epic

versed helm
humble yacht
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Halo 3 does have epic action sequences that largely cover for its weak narrative

versed helm
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When in doubt throw a scarab at the player

humble yacht
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Fun to play through in the moment but when you stop to think why people are doing what they’re doing, you start to see the cracks

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Like the first 1/3 of the game is pretty much filler, it doesn’t really progress the story meaningfully

versed helm
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Hyping up the Ark so much and we barely explore it

humble yacht
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Tsavo highway is literally just “get from point a to point b” with stuff in between

tacit charm
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tbf

proud spade
versed helm
tacit charm
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the ark is a biiiig installation and pretty much a flatish earth so wow what an intersting place to be explored

humble yacht
versed helm
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Better than cortana at leaat

humble yacht
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At least cortana has a narrative reason

versed helm
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True

humble yacht
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The payoff at the end of the level is better

fair hazel
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I’m confused as to why we fight so little flood though

humble yacht
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Gameplay

versed helm
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Honestly, the only level in Halo i actively hate is Sacred Icon.

unique rune
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Crow’s Nest is such a waste of a mission

Merge the functions of Sierra 117 and Tsavo Highway and skip Crow’s Nest entirely and you wouldn’t miss a whole lot

fair hazel
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But it still feels..

versed helm
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What if the campaign started at the Storm?

fair hazel
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I suppose you could try and justify it as the gravemind was merely letting John through because he wanted to find out what secrets Cortana didn’t reveal

humble yacht
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He was almost there as it was

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He didn’t need to let Chief make it there

versed helm
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No Gravemind wanted to say cliche dialogue

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"I shall feast upon your bones!!!"

fair hazel
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Good calcium

versed helm
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Compare this to "Your deaths will be instantenous, while we shall suffer the progress of infinitude"

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dies a few months later

tacit charm
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i mean

proud spade
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I just imagined something dumb

tacit charm
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there is still those flood outside the galaxy

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maybe

versed helm
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I doubt they will be a threat

tacit charm
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sure

proud spade
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 Really? Swears are filtered?

versed helm
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The universe is vast. Why focus on one troublesome galaxy when you have a whole universe to feast kn

proud spade
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Ugh


steep charm
proud spade
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Nevermind, I’m going elsewhere

versed helm
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Its Flood

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Ok, see ya Sol

tacit charm
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idk i just call them flood

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oh typo

versed helm
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Space zombies

tacit charm
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anyways

humble yacht
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I think necromorphs are scarier

tacit charm
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still think its highly likely flood has infected a majority if not all the cosmos and we're boned

versed helm
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If master chief dought necromorphs, they wouldnt be as scary

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Horror depends on the survivability of the protaginist

fair hazel
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When humanity is ripe

versed helm
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Ugh

humble yacht
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Necromorphs also present a psychological infection

versed helm
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When Halo Divine Wind releases where can i discuss the books plot

humble yacht
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There will be an open spoiler channel

fair hazel
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Ah yes halo divine wind


versed helm
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Ok thanks chimera

fair hazel
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Can’t wait to read it 👀

versed helm
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Me either

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Although i am more excired for rubicpn protocol

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Wonder what Denning does with the SoF

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Hope he doesn't take the Solo route

fair hazel
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Wouldn’t that be cool if somehow I could hold the book in my hands today


versed helm
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Isn't it out next week?

warm acorn
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I wonder what kind of space food do the humans eat that doesn't belong from Earth.

versed helm
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How much you wanna bet the sof doesnt show up until the last chapter so denning could do a cliff hanger ending lol

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Having read a lot of his books from Halo and SW, that doesn't seem like hos style

versed helm
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Unless 343 directly told him not to involve SoF too heavliy

versed helm
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As the author's surname is literaly G a y, they put her first Halo novel in the LGBT best seller list on Amazon XD

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Yeah i heard about that

warm acorn
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Imagine Humans trying to eat dead covenant corpes

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ew

humble yacht
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Grunts are basically lobsters

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Methane-soaked lobsters

woven plaza
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🩞

versed helm
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I love my lobster with CH4 (methane)

versed helm
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Is that a prelate in the back?

fair hazel
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Yes

versed helm
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I'd beat it in a fight

versed helm
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Lol

fair hazel
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I read the last halo book before halo canon too

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“The player is halo canon”

versed helm
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How did you get it so early?

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Amazon scewed up shipping?

gilded mason
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Some stores sell them early.

versed helm
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Huh

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Are they allowed to do that

fair hazel
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I walked in. Looked for it. Found it. Got it

gilded mason
versed helm
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Well luckily you are a mod and so I can trust you wont spoil it

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I hope its a good read

fair hazel
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That’s the part that sucks about getting it early. Lips shut. No one else to discuss.

versed helm
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Then dont read it until the 19th

fair hazel
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The discussion channel should be open during m the appropriate time

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Noooo

versed helm
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I wonder if Castor will meet his end

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It would make sense for him to die in this end

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This book i mean

fair hazel
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Don’t look at me for clues haha. I’ll have it finished before I sleep for sure.

versed helm
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Or maybe he does the ultimate troll and actually activates the rings

fair hazel
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I’ll find out soon enough 🙂

carmine sleet
icy stratus
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So the spartan laser power is actually one petawatt
Does that mean if i get 10 buddies with spartan lasers we have 1/10 of the suns power in our hands lol

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So apparently one spartan laser has more power then the entire earth right now lol

icy stratus
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Yeah apparently a spartan laser is charged by one petawatt

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10 petawatts is equal to 1/10 of the suns power lol

tacit pecan
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So it's 1/100th the power of the sun.

icy stratus
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Yeah

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Math am i right

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The laser itself is not that powerful ingame but the charge or battery for the device is 1 petawatt

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Imagine if the laser was the equivalent of one petawatt
Thats more power then the entire world right now in one shot

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Then again i dont have the blueprints for a spartan laser

wispy prawn
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What books do I need to read to understand divine wind? I’ve read shadow of intent so I know what prelates are.

gilded mason
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Last Light, Retribution, and Shadows of Reach all relate to it.

wispy prawn
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Thank you Ostral!

gilded mason
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👍

wispy prawn
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When does the book come out?

gilded mason
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19th, I think

wispy prawn
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Ok thanks again!

swift kelp
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So about Roma 143 what guns did she prefer?

icy stratus
swift kelp
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Trying to find every/most spartan 2's preferred weapons

jovial heath
swift kelp
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Pretty sure Chief's standard loadout would be an AR and a Magnum lol

tacit charm
icy stratus
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Yeah i missed a few zeros

solid lion
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What is master chief's favorite food

shut dew
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lotsa spaghetti

icy stratus
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More like when was the last time chief ate something

tacit charm
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where did you get the info the spartan laser produced 1 petawatt of energy @icy stratus

fair hazel
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It’s finished.

wispy prawn
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The fight?H3

fair hazel
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Reading

wispy prawn
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Oh same thing

twilit idol
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only a few weeks away

wispy prawn
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So close

terse lava
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Guessing it was pretty good?

fair hazel
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Maybe. 🙂 Now I got to wait 😩

terse lava
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Hm, well bummer that I won't be buying it for a long time

fair hazel
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That sucks...

terse lava
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No book store nearby

fair hazel
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Oh how come?

terse lava
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shrug closest one is like, 2 hours away

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Not worth it for one book

fair hazel
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It is worth it for me

terse lava
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How far away was your book store?

fair hazel
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well there's multiple, I just went to one I hadn't gone in a while as opposed to some I have gone to lately

terse lava
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Well you have it lucky then I guess

fair hazel
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it'd be like close to an hour had i gone public transit today

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Big city

terse lava
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Again. Lucky

fair hazel
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But now I'm lonely and I have to wait anyways with knowledge in my head

terse lava
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Only a week more isn't it?

fair hazel
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9 days

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It is fun to brag though

terse lava
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I suppose

fair hazel
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I like going to get new books, it's a thing that only happens once every few months usually

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for halo

dawn knot
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Try Randall Monroe

fair hazel
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And reading a brand new halo book, having the fiction reveal itself upon my eyes, as I try to savour it and enjoy it for as long as possible. Trying to take it in, wanting to know what will happen but at the same time not wanting it to end

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Who's that

gilded mason
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You know of the webcomic XKCD?

fair hazel
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Nope

gilded mason
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Huh.

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You've probably seen a lot of the comics without knowing what they're from

dawn knot
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A person who made around 3 books now, with one of them talking about very complicated things with only the top 1000 common words in the English language

fair hazel
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Probably

dawn knot
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Another one talking about extremely odd scenarios

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Like what happens if you hit a baseball ball with a bat at the speed of light

fair hazel
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Other than infinite, march will be my next similar experience

terse lava
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Yeah, can't really think on much I would want this Christmas season. Some new books would be nice, better then spending it on Infinite I suppose. Have been wanting to try getting into some classics like the Xeelee

south matrix
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Is the Size of Wall-E's Axiom (Colony Starship) bigger than the UNSC Infinity

swift atlas
south matrix
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Because I still struggle to look at the dimentions from the lore at Wall-E's universe

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of course both carriers are 400 years apart in technological advancement

terse lava
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Did a little search, best i found was it was 1km in length

south matrix
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HA

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About the size of Spirit of Fire

terse lava
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Eh, I can't say thats a confirmed thing

swift atlas
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What would happen if 343 added a lore accurate light rifle?

south matrix
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I believe that it'll be the length of a commando and smg combined

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since it'll be that long

south matrix
terse lava
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Mine? I simply Google it

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Ah

south matrix
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I tried finding the schematics of the BNL Axiom

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to no avail

terse lava
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@swift atlas to gameplay? Would 1 shot everything

south matrix
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because I just watched the breakdown of UNSC Infinity by Installation00

terse lava
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I found my answer on some sub reddit thing that happened to ask how large the Axiom was

south matrix
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And wondered if there's any ship in different universes that could stand up or are able to had a fair fight with the finity

terse lava
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There are very, very many that can crush Infinity like a ripe melon in a car press

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In terms of sci fi universes, the UNSC is rather unimpressive

south matrix
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I'm not too sure what Star Wars and Star Trek has to offer. Of course the Convanent and Forerunners can outsize and outstrength the Infinity

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But surely Star Wars Technology is millennia ahead

terse lava
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It is advanced enough, although terribly stagnant

south matrix
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I see

versed helm
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sorry wrong chat

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in halo 2 anniversary i thought the arbiters armor was dope

terse lava
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Yeah, it was pretty good

wispy prawn
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I like halo 2a armor not fives though

versed helm
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it made arbiter seem like a knight

fair hazel
versed helm
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how long has the star wars timeline been

terse lava
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Believe he means compared to the UNSC

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100,000 years+

versed helm
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isn’t the covenant more advanced than the unsc by like 400 years?

gilded mason
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A few thousand years

versed helm
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but they still lost to a supersoldier with a blue waifu

gilded mason
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You mean they lost because Truth made all the Elites turn against him

versed helm
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not like the whole war

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should’ve specified

gilded mason
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That's also because they had to focus their efforts on containing the Flood.

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And Thel was involved in a power struggle with the prophet assigned to the fleet

craggy sierra
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Wrong reply

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I keep doing that

versed helm
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the flood were the real homies

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and foehammer

terse lava
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Nah, just Foehammer

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Oh, and Major "lol" Silva

versed helm
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TRUE

terse lava
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Shame he wasn't arrested earlier

versed helm
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halo 1 was foehammer halo 2 was johnson and 3 was johnson and arbiter 4 was laskey and 5 is no one cause halo 5

terse lava
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You forgot Rtas

versed helm
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oh yeah i did

unique rune
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5 is no one cause halo 5
I dunno, Exuberant Witness was pretty fundamental in getting all that stuff on Genesis sorted out.

fair hazel
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Even compared to the UNSC, star wars is flashy but a lot of tech stuff can be said to be lacking

versed helm
warm acorn
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Which character would you like to return in Halo Infinite?

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Mine would be Rookie from Halo 3 ODST

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But in Infinite, he is now a Spartan just like Buck

unique rune
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Hard for a dead guy to become a Spartan

terse lava
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@warm acorn yeah, that guy died in a book

warm acorn
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Oh

terse lava
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Yep

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As for character return, perhaps the Unnamed Shipmaster from The Return short story in Halo: Evolutions. Plot was around the proper time period, and we haven't heard from him since that book

earnest topaz
fair hazel
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Depends on which faction and also star wars's hyperdrive has certain limitations

lethal axle
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hyperdrive lanes

terse lava
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Indeed, the Forerunners were able to be more impressive themselves, and the Covenant were not slouched either

last anchor
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Did I miiss the fun stuff again

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Also, which version. Legends hyperdrives were more realistic and had limitations. Canon basically has nothing to it, they're near instantanious and without required direction (see the jump from Krait to Canto Bight and back, well over 90,000 light years, done in under 24 hours)

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(Random weirdness with Discord there, moving on)

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Dont think thats canon for anything.
Spartans just end up being muscular as a result of their augmentations.
There is work done on the muscles and bones after all, they lengthen them by a couple inches at least.

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Theoretically there'd be no way to tell a Spartan apart when they were in armor, and the Nylund descriptions indicated that, aside from someone like Halsey who had been with them for decades, no one could.
Wasnt any external numeration on the armor either.

icy stratus
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Yeah its a weird fact

last anchor
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Yeah, somehow I doubt that.

icy stratus
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No not to what you said lol

fair hazel
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Legends is the non canon stuff so.....

last anchor
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Aff.

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So I guess that would technically make hyperdrives more advanced...but Interdictors are still a thing in canon thanks to Rebels so you CAN block it using a mass shadow.

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Whereas as far as we can tell, mass shadows do nothing to slipspace as long as you have a powerful enough bore-engine to handle the calculations.
See; First Strike, New Mombasa.

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Also, sorry if I accidentally tagged you earlier.

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I do have to wonder what would happen if they gave a hyperdrive to a Smart AI considering the raw computing power they're capable of...

fair hazel
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I don't mind being tagged when people are trying to talk to me usually

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But let me make you jealous now. Guess what book I read earlier?

last anchor
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Rubicon Protocol?

fair hazel
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That comes out next year

last anchor
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Well I guess its not the Halo Encyclopedia update since that comes out in March of next year too.

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New Star Wars book?

fair hazel
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Did you forget about what book comes out in nine days?

last anchor
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I did actually, but thats probably cause my life has been completely turned inside out due to the approaching holidays

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And my inability to get to any nearby bookstore in any reasonable time limit

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Oh right, Divine Wind is next isnt it

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Good, was honestly more excited for that than I was for Rubicon oddly enough.

versed helm
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tbh i would lowkey like to see jun in infinite even if it’s just a mention

last anchor
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He is mentioned.
He's on the sniper tower on Live Fire

versed helm
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who would y’all want them to bring to infinite?

last anchor
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Tom and Lucy.
Kurt, at least in name.
Veta and/or her Ferrets
Naiomi and Kilo-5

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Some mention of Ben Jiraud would be cool. Or Petra Janek.

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FERO's wayward psychopathic Innie friend, totally forgot her name.

versed helm
tacit charm
fair hazel
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It’s a reference to back to the future

north birch
tepid barn
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With that op reach sniper he was gonna have

shut dew
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Where did the idea of Kig-Yar having brittle bones come from when:

  • We see them routinely jumping out from phantoms at like 20ft in the air
  • All species are able to run much more quickly than humans, and can tackle one at such speeds with no problem
tepid barn
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Cause we just fling them in game heh

versed helm
shut dew
tepid barn
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Well they have shields maybe

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Or they are snipers usually

versed helm
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I'm not sure if there is anything official but there is a lot of things in Halo that happen not because they make sense, but to make gameplay cooler

shut dew
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Because we have plenty of on-screen and in-text feats for their species that contradict the idea

carmine sleet
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There's no boots worn by Jackals to enhance their bodies, nor do they have energy shields like what we see Elites using

shut dew
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Note to self, make fanonically accurate jackals mod

versed helm
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well, san shyuum can genetically modify themselves to become prelates so maybe there's some gene therapy going on for the Jackals

shut dew
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I think it would've been disclosed by now if that were the case

carmine sleet
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If they did have brittle bones, it'd be an easy thing to find on their Halopedia page, given it's not mentioned there, seems like it's not canon they have brittle bones

lament hornet
# versed helm well, if i recall correctly, Yanmee have trouble flying without a lift harness o...

In lower-gravity environments, Yanme'e are capable of using their wings for actual aerial maneuvering, but the weight of their exoskeletons prevent them from flying.1- When the Covenant discovered this natural ability, scientists extended their flight capabilities by fixing gravity-dampening modules to their bodies. The module adjustment gave the Yanme'e the ability to take flight freely, and the species proved to be impressive fliers—particularly on worlds that had less gravity than Palamok.7- Yanme'e are also impressively strong, despite their frail appearance. They can also be seen lifting their enemies off the ground to impressive heights.24-/26-

Sources from the 2009 Encyclopedia, Waypoint page for Yanm'e, New Blood, and Crow's nest from Halo 3.

You are right. Not with harnesses, but grav dampening modules

shut dew
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It's another one of the halo's many fanon misconceptions that people want to be canon, as far as I know

carmine sleet
lament hornet
obsidian thistle
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Let me check!

shut dew
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Don't rely on waypoint anymore, according to 343i, always use halopedia

lament hornet
obsidian thistle
#
  1. Waypoint pages will still be sourced.
  2. Even if the pages vanish. We at Halopedia will source archived versions. (More on that around Wednesday if all goes to plan SuperWink)
  3. If any mistakes are there on the wiki. Just toss them my way! I love a good puzzle to solve.
lament hornet
#

Very excellent to hear CIA, don't think I'm not aware of your immense contribution to the site! Glad you saw this convo when you did, I'd have tagged otherwise 😄

obsidian thistle
#

One of the Wiki Staff there I am aha. Always investigating ways to make stuff easier on y'all.

pulsar grail
obsidian thistle
#

Its all in the emblems, weapon choice, small body language, and voice

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In Halo Wars all of Red Team have unique emblems that blew a few back on the Pedias minds when they were spotted.

carmine sleet
#

Are there any good screenshots of the emblems?

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I know Jerome has the Spartan on his shoulder but I don't recall seeing Alice or Douglas' emblems

obsidian thistle
#

Give me a small mo

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I have a image saved somewhere

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Yea barely anyone knows Alice has a Emblem

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Douglas wears a stylized version of the Spartan-II patch

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Jerome wears a Spartan helmet

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And Alice... well no idea on why its a skull

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(Gosh just noticed the 2nd smaller one)

pulsar grail
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i thought that was the lighting

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never notice the 2nd one

carmine sleet
swift atlas
swift atlas
pallid comet
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LOL

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Spartan "anita" at your service

swift atlas
#

biggest L

pallid comet
#

Like thinking the master chiefs name is jack

swift atlas
#

lol when I first started halo I thought his name was Blake or Michael

pallid comet
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My dumg butt saw his name in a monitor on CE:A and thought that I was the only one who knew his name. XD

swift atlas
#

lol

tepid barn
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Lol

random lantern
#

Serious question, what do you think is the Covenant’s view on homosexuality/same-sex relationships?

south matrix
#

Looking at the Design or the halo Infinite commando

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Is it inspired by the Kriss Vector?

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Because the back section of the weapon resembles the Kriss Vector

swift kelp
#

Jiralhanae I doubt

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grunts

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uh

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are grunts

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kig yar i doubt they do lmao

random lantern
#

-SAN SHYUUM: Due to heavy breeding control and the Roll of Celibates, occasionally San Shyuum might enter same-sex relationship. There is a slight taboo associated with it, and it can occasionally be used as blackmail.
-SANGHEILI: It’s an unwritten long tradition for warriors away from home to become close to a "brother" while on campaign. While not encouraged, commanders generally see it favorably as a way to build camaraderie and get the warriors to fight harder because their lover is in the fight.
-JIRALHANAE: Generally seen as taboo, a Jiralhanae in a same-sex relationship will be teased, unless they have the strength to assert themselves as alphas.

swift kelp
#

yeah those are about as i expected

humble yacht
swift kelp
#

places

random lantern
swift kelp
#

oh

humble yacht
#

Please indicate that when posting, this channel is for actual lore

swift kelp
#

i thought it was real smh

humble yacht
#

Yeah, we want to avoid that sort of confusion

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What if you had told a friend about that like it was real? It would start to spread

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Head canon is never real canon

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Hence why it’s head canon

wispy prawn
#

Roses are red violets are blue IM READY HOW BOUT YOU

versed helm
#

(Dies)

obsidian thistle
# humble yacht Hence why it’s head canon

Only headcanon/fanon I seen that became canon are those that stem from the Encyclopedia 2009 scenario, very "fun" stuff, the rare times ARGs interact with people IRL, ship designs (just the designs), and that one time an author used Halo Nation and got the wrong lore and boom we are stuck with the Engineer rate.

humble yacht
#

If it becomes canon then it’s not head canon anymore

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But all canon starts as someone’s head canon

obsidian thistle
#

Pffft true.

last anchor
#

Also, the weirdness with Fistfull of Arrows, which was never explicetly stated as canon, but which at least one person said it should be.

fair hazel
#

They’d want it to incorporate into canon but couldn’t

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Legal stuff

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I think

last anchor
#

Understandably so.
If they let that one in they'd have set a precident that could get undesirably messy

obsidian thistle
#

They referenced it via tongue and cheek out of universe. But no lore itself has made it into the fiction.

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(Well I lie. ONE single thing made it in)

last anchor
#

Yeah. They said they wished they could or something like it.

fair hazel
#

I wonder when. The canon fodder is coming out

obsidian thistle
#

Grim being a CPL is a direct reference to Fistful

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Where he was written as one there.

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(No other fireteam soldier has CPL in their name.)

last anchor
#

I thought Fistful came out afterwards.

obsidian thistle
#

8 names were added when MCC added Reach.

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(Would of been 9 but one was removed. We saw that 9th one during a stream)

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@last anchor 🙂 Hope that explains it

last anchor
#

Ohhhh. Updates. Nice.

carmine sleet
#

What was the removed name?

wispy wasp
#

I'd assume it is the name right under for sgm p. Hintze with the call sign ANGR

dusty escarp
#

I got a question my dudes

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Is masterchief the best spartan? like the most lethal to existance?

gilded mason
#

Nope

dusty escarp
#

who is?

gilded mason
#

Possibly Linda.

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But there's not really a "best" Spartan, anyway

dusty escarp
#

no way

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linda??'

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she is literally comanded by chief

gilded mason
#

And?

#

That simply means John has better command traits

dusty escarp
#

And overall better rank

#

he has the rank of master chief. But why Linda

#

also Ostral what are your thoughts on Halo 5

gilded mason
#

Not a fan of it.

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And I chose Linda since she's the best marksman of the SIIs.

dusty escarp
#

do you think that linda in infinite will be wearing a mjolnir like armor

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since it's gen 3

gilded mason
#

...Yes?

dusty escarp
#

Linda is a good spartan but not a fan of her armor

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btw still salty they killed rookie in a book

carmine sleet
dusty escarp
#

oh I meant like

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like the pre halo 5 armor

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the standard green one

fair hazel
dusty escarp
#

idgaf it's canon that Kat was killed by a halo 2 jackal sniper

gilded mason
fair hazel
#

We already saw linda in gen 3 armour

dusty escarp
#

mark 4 I think

gilded mason
#

V is what John wears in CE, IV is the kind you see in Halo Wars.

fair hazel
#

There's also a lot of mark IV variants

dusty escarp
#

didn't linda wear the IV one?

gilded mason
#

Before the fall of Reach, though I'm pretty sure she was given Mark V during it, I think.

dusty escarp
#

how would they give her during the fall of reach

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that doesn't make sense

gilded mason
#

Why wouldn't it?

woven plaza
dusty escarp
woven plaza
#

Fred-104 (massively) outranks John-117

dusty escarp
#

and the spartans were literally having o downtime

gilded mason
dusty escarp
#

Yeah but he was in pillar of autumn for most part wasn't he?

gilded mason
#

Both Linda and John were only fighting on the last day on the invasion

woven plaza
#

Halo Reach and its consequences have been a disaster for Halo's Lore/Timeline

dusty escarp
#

idc Halo Reach is one of the best Halos

dusty escarp
#

I'd say Halo reach is neons above Halo 5 and 4

woven plaza
#

isn't reach's story partially just to mess with the books because of how much some people at bungie hated the extended lore

dusty escarp
#

even in gameplay Reach was superior. Only true fans remember the invisible elite in first mission on legendary or trying to get the achievement of not dying to fall damage trough assasination on that 1 elite.

woven plaza
#

Like halo reach is fun and all, and I enjoyed playing it but iirc, it really messed with the timeline presented by Fall of Reach

dusty escarp
#

like brutes not being mentioned in the books

#

yet appearing in the game

#

Is Halo Wars worth it for the lore?

woven plaza
#

I mean it's good but it's self contained
Halo Wars 2 is more connected to the main lore

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play both

dusty escarp
#

anyway I hope we see ODSTs in infinite

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they are badass

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there's something about not being as protected as spartans that make them cool

fair hazel
dusty escarp
fair hazel
#

I don't like reach gameplay, slow and bloomy. But storywise, it has issues

dusty escarp
#

I respect that

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I personally loved it.

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Specially the camera work.

#

One of the best scenes in halo is where they are engaged by the elites and carter sends 6 and 5 to track them down

fair hazel
#

I don't think that's one of the best in halo

dusty escarp
#

I personally think it is

#

I still remember my dad walking in with halo 3 and halo reach in hand

#

I remember in Halo 3 last mission I would wait for the falling floor to almost reach me to make it look more epic

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but imo Reach is one of the best Halos

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specially because of the stakes and atmosphere of it

#

there is this unhopeful atmosphere all troughout

dusty escarp
swift kelp
#

can you elaborate?

#

ive never heard this before

dusty escarp
#

Well. Just play Halo 2 in legendary or Veteran

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and you'll understand.

wispy prawn
#

Hahaha

dusty escarp
#

See that guy might seem like he is laughing but it's actually a PTSD episode

#

He played Halo 2 on veteran or legendary

wispy prawn
#

Crys

swift kelp
#

i played every halo on legendary lmao

dusty escarp
#

Then you know Kat got killed by a Jackal

swift kelp
#

i mean, no, but okay

dusty escarp
#

Yeah he is just hidden in the cinematic he appears behind the in the dark

#

anyway enough jokes

#

it still hurts me she died like that

swift kelp
#

it was a needle rifle from a zealot-

dusty escarp
#

it was a Halo 2 Jackal im telling you

#

anyway the zealots were op lol

swift kelp
#

you-

#

i hate you

dusty escarp
#

Hey listen here you fu-gets one shot sniped across 3 different buildings with full cover

wispy prawn
#

Mombasa streets on legendary in a nutshell

#

Well it’s called outskirts but you know what I mean

terse lava
#

Really thr only thing worse are the sniper flood forms in QZ

#

Even if you have a vehicle, the rocket flood will make up for it

versed helm
#

in ce i was in two betrayals trying to just run away from the flood and the rocket one always comes outta nowhere

#

also i also think kat got killed by a halo 2 sniper jackal

terse lava
#

Nah, had that been the case, all of noble would have fallen right then and there

humble yacht
humble yacht
#

A-something

versed helm
#

oh then idk

wispy prawn
#

Agrina

humble yacht
#

I think it’s spelled with a Y

versed helm
wispy prawn
#

I can’t spell it but yeah it’s agr-e-na

unique rune
#

Laurette Agryna

humble yacht
#

Thanks for the correct spelling

versed helm
#

yo what if rookie just got shot then he just stands up and says “you recharged my shield thanks”

obsidian thistle
carmine sleet
#

Sorry, I kinda didn't have much time at the time I asked that so I have not checked it yet

brittle cradle
#

Have they announced any kind of early podcast/mini series like they did for 5, like hunt the truth

fair hazel
#

Sadly no

#

8 days left!

brittle cradle
fair hazel
#

The book comes out

brittle cradle
#

Ah

wispy prawn
gaunt oakBOT
#

Do not tag Admins or Moderators unless immediate action is needed. If you see anything that does not abide by these rules and guidelines, or have a question on Halo Discord server issues, please DM @wet locust.

tacit pecan
ebon coyote
#

question for the group...i checked halopedia but couldnt find the answer

#

but

#

what happened to Captain Del Rio after he went on a "Family Vacation"

versed helm
#

If he survived the Created Uprising he's probably being his usual slimeball self

static verge
ebon coyote
#

WISHFUL THINKING AND I LOVE IT

#

i kinda sorta imagined him in the Midnight Facility

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as a political prisoner of the Office of Naval Intelligence

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but killed by a legendary halo 2 sniper jackal sounds nice too lol

versed helm
#

I dont think talking crap about the chief is an offence

tacit pecan
#

yeah, there's no reason for him to be in jail.

#

Let alone the Midnight facility.

#

He was already court martialed for leaving Chief behind on Requiem.

#

That's bad enough for his career.

tacit charm
#

del oreo didnt really leave chief behind on requiem chief more or less on his own accord went awol to stop the didact

tacit pecan
#

Del orea?

tacit charm
#

*oreo

random lantern
#

I'm surprised at how people say Del Rio is somehow this super incompetent failure. His decisions aren't necessarily perfect but he doesn't really do anything supremely incompetent or illegal. And he's technically right in regards to Cortana, considering how one mission after her outburst she's already starting to fall apart seriously enough that it affects the mission (like when she almost traps the Didact at the end of Shutdown, leading indirectly to the composing of Ivanoff station and New Phoenix).

random lantern
tacit pecan
#

Illegal? Of course not.

#

Incompetent? "Recon? We don't need Recon. This is a blow through op"

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"You were sent on a scouting mission while the ship was under attack?!"

random lantern
tacit pecan
#

While the biggest ship in the UNSC's arsenal is under attack by an even bigger ship and several thousand Covenant soldiers, is a terrible time to go on a recon mission.

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Also please turn off the ping.

#

It's not necessary.

tacit charm
#

sending recon out isnt dumb per say, its sending out marines rather than you know using drones to do so

ebon coyote
#

ive lost track of where this conversation is going lol

random lantern
#

Yeah but they have like thousands of Marines, and they're going against ships, not ground forces.

tacit pecan
#

There's ground forces, too.

wispy prawn
#

I don’t think del Rio should be hated but he wasn’t portrayed well. The UNSCs biggest most powerful ship is commanded by some one who is yelling at our boi chief. Just because the player is attached to the chief made del rio unlikeable. As a military personnel he should be barking commands. Johnson was barking commands at marines he just never Yelled a angrily.

random lantern
#

Plus at that point IIRC the Covenant ships are basically falling apart from lack of maintenance while the Infinity is the most souped-up ship the UNSC ever produced.

wispy prawn
random lantern
#

And the Infinity has like a couple battalions worth of soldiers and marines I'm pretty sure sparing a few platoons for recon isn't quite Custer levels of incompetence.

tacit pecan
#

But again, they weren't just under attack by Covenant. The bigger threat here was the Didact and the new enemy that was the Prometheans.

wispy prawn
#

Huh

unique rune
#

Well, I mean, you aren’t really supposed to like Del Rio.

wispy prawn
#

Well I certainly didn’t sooo

unique rune
#

Technically nothing he does is wrong, he’s just more like an annoying middle manager more concerned with his position than an “inspiration to his men” type of leader like Jacob Keyes.

wispy prawn
#

Facts

tacit pecan
#

Am I supposed to like Sarah Palmer? Because I don't.

wispy prawn
#

Same bro if you read new blood halo book she’s a little more likable because you see her as an ODST but still meh

humble yacht
#

Del rio is purposefully introduced as someone were not supposed to like because he’s antagonistic to the chief

#

Palmer just seems to rub some people the wrong way with her brassy demeanor, which isn’t a reason imo not to like her

#

Both del rio and Palmer are some of the more realistic characters to be featured in halo, compared to, let’s say, Johnson

#

But I guess some people don’t really want realistic characters and would rather have fun characters who are quotable or likeable

wispy prawn
#

Yeah

humble yacht
#

For all her attitude, Palmer has never impeded the chief. The opposite, in fact

terse lava
#

Don't forget, Del Rio taking off also allowed for the infinity to help later. Does anyone really think the ship could have done much inside Requiem?

gilded mason
#

In hindsight, they apparently could've, according to Cortana. Though it is very understandably not a risk most people would want to take.

humble yacht
#

Well, certainly Chief would have had a better chance keeping the Didact on requiem with a whole capital ship at his back as opposed to just a pelican and a dwindling AI

#

Sure, he won in the end but not before the Didact left, got the composer, and murked a bunch of innocent people

#

The infinity’s dorsal cannons could have kept the cryptum at bay and stopped it from entering the Mantle’s Approach

woven plaza
#

H I N G E H E A D S

gilded mason
#

Spartan Ops, Initiation, and Escalation made me not a fan of her, yeah.

#

Though H5 made her better, ironically.

woven plaza
#

like there's far worse things she's done than tease MC

#

like her throwing an actual hissy fit over Halsey escaping

#

and even then I don't hate Palmer, I just don't care for her too much one way or the other

humble yacht
#

Halsey is a war criminal and actually dangerous, Palmer had good reason to be upset over her escape

gilded mason
#

Moreso that she had so little control over herself that she smashed UNSC equipment over it.

humble yacht
#

That’s what I mean about realistic

#

Think about all the gamers who throw their controller or something in a rage. It’s a very human response

gilded mason
#

And that makes them dislikeable.

humble yacht
#

Context

#

Losing a game is a pretty shallow thing to get upset over to that degree

gilded mason
#

That's not exactly the point.

humble yacht
#

If you’re just going to blanket say that any display of lacking control makes a character dislikeable then I say you lack nuance

gilded mason
#

Your point was that people can have realistic reactions to things, right? I'm saying that in real-life, people can be disliked as well.

humble yacht
#

Well yea but having bad traits doesn’t make you a bad person

gilded mason
#

But it can make you disliked.

humble yacht
#

And characters with negative traits aren’t bad characters

gilded mason
#

I don't think she's a bad character, I think she was a dislikeable character.

humble yacht
#

But again, I think context for behaviors is key

#

Del rio’s responses seemed out of place because they were exaggerated compared to the situation. At least up until Chief directly disobeyed him

#

Del rio dismissing chief’s recon request when chief obviously has better understanding of field ops shows he was more concerned about his ego than mission success. Palmer breaking stuff because Halsey escaped isn’t ego, it’s legitimate frustration, possibly even fear

#

There’s no point in trying to explain things, tho, people feel how they feel

gilded mason
#

Yes.

random lantern
#

On an unrelated note, how does one "decomission" a Halo ring?

gilded mason
#

I guess by removing the index

#

That was their plan with Gamma, it seems

random lantern
#

Oh, I thought they destroyed all Flood samples and destroyed/disabled the bits of Halo that kill people.

gilded mason
#

Never really went into depth with it, so they might do those things as well.

tacit pecan
tacit pecan
#

Not just Hingehead, but also labeling all the scientists "eggheads".

#

Like wtf, Palmer?

fair hazel
#

You know they term is not one she came up with?

#

And it’s military banter others use?

tacit pecan
#

It feels degrading.

fair hazel
#

That term is used in halo reach as well you know?

versed helm
#

where?

random lantern
#

I just made an amazing realisation. In Reach, you only start fighting Brutes in the last half of the campaign, and they’re first introduced going after a city which would be mostly civilians. Perhaps Truth wanted to use the Elites to soften up Reach and suffer casualties to make them weaker for the upcoming schism?

fair hazel
#

I think you’re looking at that too much

swift atlas
#

How powerful is the incineration cannon in lore?

versed helm
#

one more week

#

until new book

terse lava
#

@swift atlas as it's bio says, it.was able to clean away small spore mountains( a regular one can grow 50km high and hundreds wide)and or areas believed to hold a gravemind lairs

swift atlas
versed helm
#

One.

terse lava
#

No, though could see three of them ending the main bulk of the gravemind in halo 2

tacit charm
hybrid juniper
fair hazel
ebon coyote
#

speaking of promethean weapons the boltshot and binary rifle would have to be my ultimate favorite loadout...stupid?? probably...but i mean you like what you like lol

swift kelp
#

My favorite loadout is an SMG and an AR tbh

#

Anyways I think Spartan 3's are just the coolest spartans

versed helm
#

Was thel vadam (the current arbiter) part of the covenant fleet that destroyed reach?

gilded mason
#

Yes.

versed helm
#

damn, I'm not sure if I forgive arbiter for doing that stuff to humanity, I mean I want the elites and humans to be allies but still yk they did stuff to humanity

gilded mason
#

Everyone makes mistakes. 😌

versed helm
#

Lol true, also the prophets were lying to the elites

#

they were just following the prophet's orders, so technically it was the prophet's fault

tacit pecan
#

Many humans still don't trust the Elites. But it's better to be reluctant allies for the future than to remain enemies.

gilded mason
#

Indeed.

swift kelp
#

Ripa will always be best arbiter

fair hazel
#

I want pre covenant books

#

I hope we get an explosion in novels after infinite launch

#

You guys who will read the new book. Please read fast.

swift kelp
#

I used to be the fastest reader in class

#

😎

fair hazel
#

I better expect you

swift kelp
#

I read all the books im a teacher mf

fair hazel
#

You’re getting divine wind right?

swift kelp
#

mayhaps

fair hazel
#

Then I guess I won’t be excepting you.

swift kelp
#

😭

fair hazel
#

Like the saying goes. So lonely at the top

swift kelp
#

what if i dont 😳

fair hazel
#

If you don’t read it.. on day one hours after it’s release. Then I’ll be impatiently waiting still

swift kelp
#

ohhh i just remembered something and im angy

fair hazel
#

What ?

swift kelp
#

Just remembered I have a job đŸ˜©

fair hazel
#

Also sometimes I’ve thought about doing a book reading marathon. But I’d need a lot of time
 what would happen if I read all the halo novels nearly non stop. Like two a day. That may be too much reading.

swift kelp
#

I would pay to see that

fair hazel
#

Some twitch stream donations everyone reading halo books marathon stream? Haha

swift kelp
#

I would give you 50% of my pay just to watch that

carmine moss
#

ive read 8 halo books in last month and half. 4 more till infinite

#

its really fun reading though them. i recommend it

versed helm
#

Speaking of books

#

did they move Divine wind? It was meant to come out on 19th

#

But my order was moved to the 29th

fresh lantern
#

what are the two betrayals on the level two betrayals? (I know one is guilty spark)

swift seal
#

I think it’s supposed to represent how both chief and spark betrayed each other from their own perspectives

fresh lantern
#

oh

worldly crystal
fair hazel
bronze schooner
#

They’re good

bronze schooner
versed helm
craggy tendon
gentle ridge
#

Do we know of Spartans born on earth

gilded mason
#

Think there's at least one known about

gentle ridge
gentle ridge
#

Reading kilo five

#

There’s some bruh moments

#

But I am not hating it

#

Jul is pretty cool tbh

#

I heard he dies in seconds in one of the games

#

💀

#

Lol

#

Waste

#

Karen traviss is doing a republic commando again. She hates halsey so much lol

gilded mason
gentle ridge
#

It would’ve been nice irony if the Spartans were purely from the colonies

#

Another scumbag thing the unsc has done

bronze schooner
craggy tendon
wispy prawn
#

Lol

fair hazel
#

Two betrayals name does stand on thin reasoning

tacit pecan
#

Despite the name "Two Betrayals," only one betrayal occurs: 343 Guilty Spark's turning against the Chief. Though it is possible that the Chief and 343 Guilty Spark can be looked at as betraying each other, or that it is referring first to Cortana 'betraying' the Chief by refusing to activate Halo, then to Guilty Spark.

versed helm
#

when they told her to do all the stuff and gave the reources in the first place lol

#

But hey, good thing - Blue Team stayed in character and didn't give a single care about who they were before the Spartan program.

fresh lantern
#

how do hunters even see

swift kelp
#

they are worm

#

they kinda have eyes all over their body yes?

lament hornet
#

Because of their combined neural nets' sensitivity to their surroundings, Mgalekgolo can think and work as an effective combat unit without even using verbal communication. They can also locate their enemies even without directly "seeing" them, such as when they are facing the opposite direction.

A Mgalekgolo is formed physically, and neurologically, by a group of Lekgolo, to become a single, collective hive-mind community. They can sense and detect their surroundings due to that.

swift kelp
#

so they have spidey sense

lament hornet
#

In a simplified way, yeah 😆

gentle ridge
#

Yet mfs keep hitting them in the back lol

#

Just like put a shield over it bro Jesus

humble yacht
#

They did

worldly crystal
worldly crystal
worldly crystal
#

Especially when they have concussion rifles

#

And I swear they're suicidal with rocket launchers

#

Today even, I gave a ODST in exodus a rocket launcher... I heard an explosion later on and went to investigate.. and found his body next to it, with an explosion mark on a wall near him...

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Tell me lore and universe... Why do they do this?

fringe light
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Their goals are beyond your understanding.

carmine sleet
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AI behaviour within the gameplay is not indicative of anything in the canon

swift kelp
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it should be

craggy sierra
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Halo is a game where automatic weapons can't do headshots...the relation between gameplay and canon has basically never existed

humble yacht
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That must make halo 5 the more canon-accurate gameplay

fair hazel
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Or infinite

versed helm
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i wish it was canon whenever a marine gets plasma grenade they just run into another group of marines and explode them

bronze schooner
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In lore

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I think if a plasma grenade gets stuck to a Marine or ODST helmet, they should throw their helmet like in Day at the Beach

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That would be a cool function in Infinite

versed helm
gentle ridge
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So Karen traviss is backing up the general disfunction of elite society without the covenant

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The idea elites don’t have doctors, don’t allow surgery. Can hardly farm or do anything without covenant labour

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It’s actually consistent to Cole protocol and what it puts forward.

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Not consistent to some other stuff

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Like half jaw lol

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They can’t even work their own technology Jesus

stable flower
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Oh and they use Brutes as slaves

warm acorn
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Is Chips Dubbo one of the strongest marine ever existed?

versed helm
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Kinda like Republic Commando and the Jedi not giving two s h i t s for the Clones lol

bronze schooner
versed helm
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The Marine/ODST AI could use a buff in general

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no wonder there wasn't any in the Halo 5 campaign

terse lava
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@gentle ridge the stuff they put to paper has largely been ignored. Sangheili have weapon makers, engineers, farmers, and everything else a functioning society already has

gentle ridge
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This just makes the universe suck

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I was told it was consistent

versed helm
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It's just Traviss being Traviss

terse lava
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Yeah, she's famous for not researching universes she writes for

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Also how does it make it suck? Having Sangheili that incompetent is what would ruin thr universe

versed helm
gentle ridge
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Basically you’re telling me that this book isn’t canon because this is key to Juls entire motivation

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Also

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Where does it contradict?

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What came before this book that said different?

versed helm
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I don't remember how much was written about the Sanghelli and Covie species planet's in general before the novel timeline wise so idk if it contracitds anything

gentle ridge
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So basically it’s not her fault

gentle ridge
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Literally the events of the book are rendered non canon

terse lava
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The various weapons and combat harnesses shown in h5 and MCC, for starters

gentle ridge
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Did those come out before the book?

terse lava
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Cole Protocol showing Sangheili serfs working

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After

gentle ridge
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There’s serfs in this book to

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Most food is imported though

versed helm
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Well in the end they do sort of

terse lava
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Again, Traviss is infamous for not researching for what she writes

versed helm
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||Kill Jul in one cutscenes lol||

gentle ridge
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As has already been said

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It’s not her fault

versed helm
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what are we talking about

gentle ridge
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Scroll up

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Conversation isn’t long

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Continuity

versed helm
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i’ve been reading but i’m honestly so confused

gentle ridge
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Sad

versed helm
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Yeah I'm confused about this a bit too

gentle ridge
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Bruh

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How is it hard

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The book paints a picture of the sorry state of elite society

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Jul’s partial motivation is that it needs to change

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And I’m being told that everything out forward isn’t an issue

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Elites can’t even repair ships or build their own

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And don’t give her fuss, because it’s consistent. The prophets build the tech

versed helm
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I'm pretty sure most of Covie vessels were relaint on Engineer's

gentle ridge
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Engineers and prophets

versed helm
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so yeah they sorta were short on people able to fix stuff

carmine sleet
gentle ridge
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Bruh

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writes something
later thing changes it
it’s her fault

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Lol

terse lava
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We also have the fact, the Sangheili were able to upgrade 3400+year old ships to modern standards

versed helm
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Technician is clearly implying older lore like all the pre 2010 books

gentle ridge
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Well I asked

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And no one said anything

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I am well aware of what she’s like

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She hates halsey and it shows

terse lava
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She did the same with the Jedi too in her star wars novels

gentle ridge
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I know

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I was looking for it

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And within pages I saw muh children

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Again

versed helm
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I cannot give any example, the oldest Halo book I read was Ghost of Onyx

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and well

carmine sleet
versed helm
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It clearly doesn't bare Covie lore in mind that much lol

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Alas Cole Protocol and Contact Harvest came out prior to that and as far as I'm aware, Elite's had not much issue with running their own turf

gentle ridge
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I’m still waiting on you to give the example technician

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My biggest issues aside from some weird character stuff in this book

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Has to be the complete butchering of how ftl travel and coms work

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And I don’t think it’s even her fault but I don’t know

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It actually breaks the entire war to be honest

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Contact harvest established that long rang comms aren’t sorted yet. Masers can only go so far. Ftl coms is as fast as the fastest ship

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Not anymore lol

carmine sleet
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You know that example you wanted of her not doing her research before writing? You've just given yourself one

gentle ridge
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Still waiting

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I asked

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You pretend like you answered

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So if you wouldn’t mind

versed helm
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The funniest retcon in Kilo Five is

carmine sleet
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There's no point me searching for one when you've just come up with one regarding how she handled FTL communication

versed helm
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Hood going bailistic on Halsey

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when they are like

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"friends" lol

carmine sleet
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Didn't need to tag me

versed helm
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my favorite line is “give me that chip” i just imagine chief with a bag of doritos in his hand

gentle ridge
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Are you gonna cry?

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I just said

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I don’t think it’s her fault

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Or am I to blame her for mentioning noble six?

versed helm
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is this an argument cause i can’t really tell?

gentle ridge
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The example was specific to elite society, you tried to brush it off as her not knowing. So please, give me the example

versed helm
gentle ridge
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Sad story joe

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Halo reach, I am told, has ftl coms

versed helm
gentle ridge
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Which totally ruins the war

carmine sleet
# gentle ridge I don’t think it’s her fault

You complained that the novel was inconsistent with both preestablished lore and lore that came after, you never specifically asked me for an example related to the Elites specifically so don't try and make me out as being the one in the wrong here

gentle ridge
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Bruh

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I literally did ask

gentle ridge
carmine sleet
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When did you ask me for an example specific to the Elites?

gentle ridge
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đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«

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ask you specifically

versed helm
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i have a theory, what if johnson actually got shot by a halo 2 jackal and not by 343

gentle ridge
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Nice little twist there

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You replied to me and got it wrong

carmine sleet
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What?

gentle ridge
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Is the most charitable I can be

carmine sleet
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You are making zero sense now

gentle ridge
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Amnesia

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Are you ok

carmine sleet
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Please stop tagging me

gentle ridge
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Are you finished crying?

carmine sleet
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And me saying you are making no sense is not meaning I have lost memories

gentle ridge
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You can’t answer what you pretended you would answer. It’s fine

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I guess you can’t read

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We don’t need to linger on it

carmine sleet
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I did answer, you aren't happy with the answer you were given and are now trying to antagonise me

gentle ridge
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You literally

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Sus

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Did

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Not

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Answer

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It’s cool though

versed helm
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this whole conversation is confusing now

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it’s like watching my parents argue over who has the better car

gentle ridge
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You seem like you’re perpetually baffled at everything around you

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Me so confused me know understand lmfao

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Long story short: the elite situation isn’t her fault

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But I totally get issues with her general attitude

versed helm
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bruh y’all are still on about that???

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who cares it’s just a book

gentle ridge
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who cares

versed helm
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it’s not a worry in yalls lives

gentle ridge
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Lore and universe channel

versed helm
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yeah but arguing over it makes no sense

gentle ridge
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Arguing over lore

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In the lore channel

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Almost like halo fans care about that stuff

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đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«

versed helm
gentle ridge
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Very high tier intellect of perpetual confusion and general ignorance

carmine sleet
gentle ridge
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Tell me what it doesn’t fit with

carmine sleet
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I want to note that at no point in this, have I insulted or shown any disrespect to you while you have done so on multiple occasions. I have asked you to not tag me multiple times and you have continued to do so

gentle ridge
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I hear that world hunger can be solved if you had the ability to answer a single question.

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So please

wild crest
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ye

versed helm
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Cool Divine Wind comes out next week

gentle ridge
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Billions are begging

versed helm
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Wonder why Lopa went with that

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Fallout 3 A ss lookig haircut

gentle ridge
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Is it true a Spartan gamma murks a Spartan two in the book lol

versed helm
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who’s the dude who keeps saying ye lol

gentle ridge
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The second coolest mf here after me

wild crest
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ye

versed helm
gentle ridge
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ye