#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 498

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Lol

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:43 PM

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gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Lol

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Did a bit of double checking, and I will relent that, it was Jora 'Konoree who claimed his family would be purged for his dishonor.

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:45 PM

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One example

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And

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You didn’t double check

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Because he’s not part of Thel’s keep

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:46 PM

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I did, looked over on halopedia quick on the Sangheili I was thinking of. Thus why I said you were correct in that it was not solely Vadam

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Makes me realize I need to find my darn books

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Tbh it’s more a Cole protocol issue than a comic issue

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I noticed a lot of things didn’t add up. In general I was thoroughly not impressed with the book though there’s a few really enjoyable moments

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Which is funny because the dirt short story is written by the same guy and is one of the best halo pieces I’ve read so far

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Anyone who hasn’t should read it

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Fair, there is contradiction in other novels as well. The series made by Karen Travvis makes it seem like Sangheili are literally incapable of anything but war

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Cole protocol says engineers are doctors lol

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:49 PM

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terse lava Fair, there is contradiction in other novels as well. The series made by Karen T...

Actually might? Make sense. I dunno

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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They had issues doing farm stuff

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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She didn't study halo before writing them, odd, seeing as she did well with Human Weakness. Point being she was wrong, the Sangheili can farm, build, work, etc

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I hate the idea engineers were forerunner

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Well at start, they just needed to like - read some books for that lol

gilded mason Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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gentle ridge Actually might? Make sense. I dunno

Nah, other books and stuff have talked about how they have a lot of scientists, engineers, farmers, merchants, etc.

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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terse lava She didn't study halo before writing them, odd, seeing as she did well with Huma...

Ok fair enough

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Tbh

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Kariss is always in her own little bubble of world writing

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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As for the Huragok, they can Do medical fixings too. There was evem a green colored type which dedicated solely to that

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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On halo

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But I expect it to suck

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:50 PM

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looks at Republic Commando

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Frankly

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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And no, they wwre not forerunmer

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Because she sucks

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And like someone said

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Doesn’t care about continuity

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Thats true with her

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I expect many sobbings about child soldiers

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Many much mucho

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Tears and tears

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Waterfall city

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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oh yeah there's a lot of that too to some extent in Glasslands

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Of course it's mostly just Osman

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Eh

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Blue Team doesn't really care that they were child soldiers XD

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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And the dude who said I was in favour of child soldiers is going to come in here and say I’m defending it again

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Uh....ok?

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Ok

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Yourself

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Just was, out of the blue really

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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The funniest part of Traviss work is her Mando's critising Jedi for making child soldiers

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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It happened last time

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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despite Mandalorians doing the same thing

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:53 PM

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versed helm The funniest part of Traviss work is her Mando's critising Jedi for making child...

Meanwhile mandos genocide races

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Well wasn't here for that

gentle ridge Oct 4, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Glass planets

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And force the enemy to join them

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Oh yeah Mando's are very very much worse than the Jedi

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in like every way

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yet from her POV Jedi are evil adn Mando cry because the Republic nuked Mandalore

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ofc said Mando's forget that they got nuked because they were off killing people again lmao

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Wait, there's a funnier part!

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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In Star Wars Jedi taking kids and clone army being birth raised slaves army isn’t addressed too much

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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When in Glassland's they capture M'dama

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Halo deals with the moral implications of similar stuff more.

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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and instead of sending him to prison

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they send him to an UNSC reaserac outpost on what's left of Onyx XD

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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fair hazel In Star Wars Jedi taking kids and clone army being birth raised slaves army isn’...

There is a lot

gilded mason Oct 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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fair hazel In Star Wars Jedi taking kids and clone army being birth raised slaves army isn’...

Don't the Jedi take children from willing parents.

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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and no, Jedi don't steal kids.

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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In canon?

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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In both canon and EU.

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Jedi only take kids from parent's that are willing

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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True

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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In the whole lore there's only one istance of the parent's not being fine with it

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but they changed their minds after they gave their kid away willingly lol

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I assume unwilling, they keep.an eye on the kid

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Curious where. Clone wars didn’t make that big of a deal. And even so. Even if the parents take. There is still a lot of ethical implications

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Clone Wars was made by Filoni who literally just goes

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I like the un mortal dictata

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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The Jedi I like are always right

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the rest is baaaaaad

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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fair hazel Curious where. Clone wars didn’t make that big of a deal. And even so. Even if t...

Oh there is, a lot

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Eh I liked pre-bio chip

gilded mason Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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versed helm the rest is baaaaaad

And has a pet character that they will not ever let go of. Ever.

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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but not taking a Force Sensitive kids is far more dangerous

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because they may go Dark Side and cause another war

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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gilded mason And has a pet character that they will not ever let go of. Ever.

Funny thing is that he also took Thrawn into Mando without asking Zahn what his plans were lol

gilded mason Oct 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Man

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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~~Then again Mando isn't really that good when you think about it~~

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Which reminds me

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that Halo show still a thing?

gilded mason Oct 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Yeh

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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It’s supposed to release next year.

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I'd post a gif reaction to that but

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I like the chip more

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I... cannot.

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Actually was it supposed to release in spring? I forgot the timing given

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Wasn't it delayed like 4 times by now?

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 7:00 PM

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Something of that sort

fair hazel Oct 4, 2021, 7:00 PM

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First quarter of 2022

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 7:00 PM

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Soo apperantly the show is coming from the crew that was making a show back in the 2010s

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and said show was in dev hell for 8 years.

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Yeah... I don't see that one ending well mate.

unique rune Oct 4, 2021, 7:03 PM

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And to think it was originally supposed to launch alongside Halo 5.

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 7:04 PM

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I think it was meant to launch even earlier

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I have a different topic for this channel

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Whatever happened to Interpid Eye's arc lol?

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She's in Last Light and Retribution.
Then they say she's been dealt with in Renegades.

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and the ferret's only appear in Shadow's of Reach for a few pages

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 7:06 PM

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fair hazel I like the un mortal dictata

That's like the only book I can't find where I'm from.
At a normal price lol

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And I found OG realease Fall of Reach for a normal price XD

unique rune Oct 4, 2021, 7:13 PM

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versed helm Whatever happened to Interpid Eye's arc lol?

Maybe Divine Wind will have something on it?
Unless she was destroyed with Argent Moon in Halo 5 the way Halopedia suggests.

But the latter doesn't seem like something Denning would do.

versed helm Oct 4, 2021, 7:20 PM

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I really have a feeling as if an entire book worthy story happened there and

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we never got it

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I'm more curious what will Denning do with Red Team in Divine Wind

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~~Assuming he doesn't kill them off~~

tacit pecan Oct 4, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Late to this but I thought that one Elite that was executed in The Flood was because he failed to stop Chief from rescuing Keyes.

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Is that something that changed or am I just remembering that detail wrong?

swift seal Oct 4, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I think so?

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Maybe he offended the prophet in some other way

terse lava Oct 4, 2021, 8:29 PM

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He was.executed because of the flood breaching containment

tacit pecan Oct 4, 2021, 9:04 PM

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So false memory. Got it.

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Been too long since I read that book.

warm acorn Oct 5, 2021, 1:10 AM

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What was the scariest/creepiest Halo expanded universe book?

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 1:29 AM

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I would say Silentium, the hight of the Forerunner flood war, the precursor relics activating galaxy wide able to tear entire star systems apart and completely invincible to anything not a halo-like weapon, and the thoughts of the precursors/flood

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Shame there was no ground combat shown

urban patio Oct 5, 2021, 2:33 AM

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question about reach: is jorge bigger and taller than chief

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Yeah

tacit pecan Oct 5, 2021, 2:33 AM

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By about a foot.

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Nah. Either by 2 inches or 6 inches

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Depending on whether Jorge's 7'4" height is counting his armor or not

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Why do people say Kurt had an anger management problem?

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Cause he really blew up on the Covenant

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 2:41 AM

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banned

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Why were chief and Thel firing on a river during a large storm? They were trying to halt the flood

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@gilded mason uny

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 2:49 AM

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None of you are free of sin.

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Why did the Spartans call in the Ghostbusters? They thought they saw some phantoms

unique rune Oct 5, 2021, 2:52 AM

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The weight of your heresy will stay your feet

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 2:55 AM

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"For failure such as this, no PUNishment is to great"

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Master Chief, you mind telling me what you’re doing in that Infinite Technical Preview?

Sir, finishing this flight.

tacit pecan Oct 5, 2021, 3:02 AM

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🥁

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 3:17 AM

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"Regret, Regret, Regret..."

tacit pecan Oct 5, 2021, 3:18 AM

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"Dear humanity-"gets shot

tacit charm Oct 5, 2021, 3:32 AM

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terse lava I would say Silentium, the hight of the Forerunner flood war, the precursor reli...

i still wish star roads would feature in a halo game (even though whoever is controlling them is practically invincible CSGOExterm but hey a man can dream)

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 3:36 AM

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@tacit charm best you'd get is a flashback

tacit charm Oct 5, 2021, 3:37 AM

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tashi i dont want a flashback i want a game where you fight them ||even though you actually cant||

terse lava Oct 5, 2021, 3:41 AM

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Eh sure, precursor return, earth gets cracked like an egg

bronze schooner Oct 5, 2021, 4:43 AM

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gilded mason None of you are free of sin.

Why can’t Johnson start his car? Because he lost his Keyes (Twice)

stable flower Oct 5, 2021, 4:49 AM

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Shame they couldn't get Angela Bassett on board Halo 4 as Johnson's woman

tacit charm Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 AM

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bronze schooner Why can’t Johnson start his car? Because he lost his Keyes (Twice)

honestly

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thats hilarious

oak compass Oct 5, 2021, 6:03 AM

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The Covenant party in New Alejandria...
Is that canon?

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craggy tendon Oct 5, 2021, 6:04 AM

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no

oak compass Oct 5, 2021, 6:04 AM

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I see

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 6:04 AM

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Of course. The Covenant are most known for being huge partiers. Everywhere they go, they must also party.

craggy tendon Oct 5, 2021, 6:04 AM

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ah yeah I forgot

oak compass Oct 5, 2021, 6:04 AM

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I knew it

craggy tendon Oct 5, 2021, 6:04 AM

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they went to a homecoming party

oak compass Oct 5, 2021, 6:05 AM

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The long battles they fight and the conquest of planets deserve a little break

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This aht the end must contain the .gif

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hmmm

craggy tendon Oct 5, 2021, 6:07 AM

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welp

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it ruined the joke

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r i p

oak compass Oct 5, 2021, 6:08 AM

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oh come on
why...

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Maybe the server settings

craggy tendon Oct 5, 2021, 6:09 AM

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prob

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if in the end of halo 4 chief was floating

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and in the beginning of the halo infinite trailer it shows chief floating

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that opens up a possibility for h5 retcon if someone really wanted to believe it never happened.

unique rune Oct 5, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Except Halo 4 clearly shows Chief getting recovered by a Pelican during the final cutscene…? Not to mention he’s clearly floating by Earth and not a Halo ring missing a giant chunk.

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 6:23 AM

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craggy tendon that opens up a possibility for h5 retcon if someone really wanted to believe it...

it would retcon a bit of H4 and the entirety of H5

unique rune Oct 5, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Doesn’t help that Infinite’s clearly made reference to things that happened in Halo 5 so it’s not like you’d be able to just pretend it didn’t happen at all.

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Doesn't help that the trailer for story mentions Cortana going rampant

dark portal Oct 5, 2021, 6:39 AM

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I'd say a retcon of only certain halo 5 parts cough locke cough

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 6:41 AM

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His actions or him being a spartan?

craggy tendon Oct 5, 2021, 7:16 AM

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We should retcon reality

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0-0

craggy sierra Oct 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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dark portal I'd say a retcon of only certain halo 5 parts *cough* locke *cough*

Why?

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Becasue Locke

hybrid juniper Oct 5, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Late, but I'd assume the flood spore infects the person and makes enough supercells to make a small infection form while also slowly transforming them. It could also be that the infection form is a gameplay thing?

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 3:38 PM

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dark portal I'd say a retcon of only certain halo 5 parts *cough* locke *cough*

I don’t see any rational reason why.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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Are Spartan 3s stronger than Star Wars' Death Troopers?

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How about Sangheili Silent Shadow Vs Death Troopers

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Yes

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Bye death troopers

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Just tell me. Straight to the point

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 3:57 PM

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fair hazel Bye death troopers

Please elaborate

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So if a stepup death trooper is a step up of a Storm Trooper. How would that fair to the Halo Stealth Equivalent Special Forces

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The ones we have such as those 2 above

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Death troopers don’t undergo nearly as much augmentation as spartan 3s.

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Though death trooper armor may be comparable to SPI

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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From their showings in rogue one and rebels? I forgot where else they show up. But they don’t perform too favourably compared to halo

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Nevermind the durability and weapon differences halo and Star Wars have

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I think blasters would outperform the traditional bullets the UNSC typicallly uses

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In terms of damage

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But spartan 3s would be faster, stronger, and sneakier

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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I’d like to see a bunch of the Star Wars characters get shot with unsc guns and be fine afterwards

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Well I mean. Wouldn’t really happen

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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We don’t know exactly how bulletproof plastisteel armor is

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Or if death troopers even use plastisteel

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:36 PM

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south matrix Are Spartan 3s stronger than Star Wars' Death Troopers?

They can probably kill the human death trooper

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the infected one? Probably not.

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Dark Troopers? Pretty sure an Mark II could just wipe out a whole bunch of Spartans without much issue

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Mostly due to having waaaaaaaaaaaaay better gear

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:38 PM

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humble yacht I think blasters would outperform the traditional bullets the UNSC typicallly us...

Slugh throwers are pretty ancient in Star Wars too the point where only primive cultures use them, but if I remember correctly they still had issues against Stormtrooper armor

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:38 PM

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But for the silent shadow. Even the strongest stormtrooper variant may not stand a chance

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:39 PM

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alas that was Legends, canon doesn't care about logic behind military stuff

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:39 PM

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south matrix But for the silent shadow. Even the strongest stormtrooper variant may not stand...

The main problem with Halo against SW is that both the UNSC and Covie's are a few millenia behind SW in weapons

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so sure, an elite may be better trained

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:39 PM

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What about promethian weapons

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they could stand a chance against the star wars weapons used

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:40 PM

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I don't know how they hold up in lore tbh

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Like in gameplay and cutscenes they work way differently?

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I frankly didn't read any books where they are used either.

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But if Promethean weapons are on par with Forerunner guns, they probably superior to anything in SW weapon wise.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Now looking at the Dark Trooper

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possibly the strongest trooper SW has to offer

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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It's honestly far from it

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the Dark Trooper is simply a OP tank droid

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and it's OP comes from the time it was made at - when nobody bothered with droids.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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ah

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Is it OP? Yup.
Is it the best? Nah.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Now I'm finding who could beat or equate Dark Trooper

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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I'd say Vong Killer's are superior simply because they can kill Vong's

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Depends on the type honestly

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As there are... a lot of Dark Troopers.

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variatnas I mean

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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I need to see how would the strongest of troopers

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would compare to the strongest of spartans

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DTs could already equate to Spartan-2s

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But for DTs

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do they have augmentation?

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Dark Trooper's are droids, at least the Second and Third gen.

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Though the third is meant to be a Jedi Killer so it's probably above an 2s.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:46 PM

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so which version is the most powerful human trooper?

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Covie plasma outperforms SW blaster fire

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When blaster shots hit walls and stuff, it doesn’t burn through

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:46 PM

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south matrix so which version is the most powerful human trooper?

Only Gen 1 is human from what I remember, like from the whole project

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but they were just protypes.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Now granted, there is more blaster variety than plasma weapon variety. Like you don’t have any plasma mini guns in halo

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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humble yacht When blaster shots hit walls and stuff, it doesn’t burn through

It does though, even in ANH

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Though it depends on the blaster and other stuff.

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Afaik there was some calcious for that and it went

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:48 PM

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versed helm Only Gen 1 is human from what I remember, like from the whole project

the star wars one

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not Spartan

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Covenant Plasma Rifle has the hit equivelant of 6.4 kiljoues

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The EU E-11 rifle has 3 gigahoules

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Then again the Plasma Rifle is just Plasma, Blaster Bolts aren't just that.

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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south matrix the star wars one

That's what I meant

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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ah

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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In the main line Dark Trooper project only "Zero" and Phase One have a human component in them.

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2 and 3 are droids

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Then there's like 10 variations that are just gimmick for RPGs and have no lore lol

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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versed helm Covenant Plasma Rifle has the hit equivelant of 6.4 kiljoues

Yeah no and both are wrong.

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Also some of the stuff isn’t canon remember, Star Wars wise

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Hence why I said it's from the old loreeeeee

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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I don’t think the Star Wars universe measures things in joules

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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versed helm But if Promethean weapons are on par with Forerunner guns, they probably superio...

Promethean weapons are forerunner weapons..

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Derp

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I know

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One would assume the Forerunner's came up with something better though

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Meaning?

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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humble yacht I don’t think the Star Wars universe measures things in joules

Nor does Halo, that was just converted.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Just watched a video comparing space marines

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Well I wouldn't call Promeathan weapons top tier design choice

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Dark Troopers can be easily defeated if you use a plasma pistol on them

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because of EMP

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Halo would definitely use joules since joules are a real world unit of measure and halo uses real world units of measure

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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That's a gameplay mechanic

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Actually didn’t think of EMP for them for some reason. Does the bad batch ever use droid poppers against the prototype dark troopers?

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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versed helm That's a gameplay mechanic

I doubt that very much

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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We talking about the EU Dark Trooper's

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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That’s not canon…

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Canon Dark Troopers are just a meme lol

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It's canon within the EU continuity

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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It’s not canon.

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Plain and simple. Take it up with Disney if that’s an issue

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Disney doesn't really care

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and yeah it is canon within it's own continuity lol

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:56 PM

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versed helm Disney doesn't really care

Well then have to deal with it.

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Besides it was all Lucasfilm and they said several time's do just do what you want with what you thing is canon

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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When Luke fights the dark trooper they’re very robotic

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Well yes but

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Mostly because they lazy and want an easy excuse to fix issues

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Again those are like

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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They don’t really improvise

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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canon Dark Troopers

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Hm no how to say this

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:57 PM

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which we aren't talking about lol

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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I’m not going around using odd one out and non canon stuff

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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We were talking about those low poly boys

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Phase_II_dark_trooper

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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They’re very firm in their way of fighting.

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And that can always be exploited

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Dark Troopers are basically Terminators with stronger armour

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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south matrix Dark Troopers are basically Terminators with stronger armour

Some terminators are pretty strong

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Rev 9 is one of them

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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fair hazel I’m not going around using odd one out and non canon stuff

That isn't a good example though

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Because Odd One out (if you refering to the Legends thing) was never meant to be canon at all.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Terminators were likely stronger than dark troopers

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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EU, known as Legends, is just a different continuity

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Like Marvel's or DC Elsvewords

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or in case of DC, where you have various era with their own canon.
Of course SW just threw everything into the trash can for convivence sake

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Which was a good move given that you had like... +100 books and God knows how many short stories

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:01 PM

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alright

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I wanna see what if

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this is different

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Energy Sword with Lightsaber Tech

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Well Energy Sword is just plasma

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Lightsaber's have some magic abilites too that too

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Is Light Saber also made of Plasma

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:02 PM

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There’s canon and non canon Star Wars. Some people just won’t let go and accept that it has been all made non canon.

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I remember watching a lightsaber and energy sword video

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Some people really do think energy swords only have ten swings..

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Light saber is a manisfestation of crystallized force energy

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Lightsaber's are plasma yeah

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:03 PM

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The closest substance to that we can compare to would be plasma

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:03 PM

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The crystals give the sabers various attributes too

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Which is funny but then again, it's a space opera

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Energy swords and lightsabers may be comparable in terms of energy levels but the energy sword is ergonomically inferior

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:04 PM

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I'd also dare to say that Lightsabers (in competent hands) are a vastly deadlier weapon

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Mostly since said competent hands have space magic that allows them to

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idk

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wipe out a hundred Mandalorians

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Lightsaber could just go between the blades of the energy sword and cut the weapon And the hand wielding it

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:05 PM

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or a few dozen Yuuzhan Vong

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Also light sabers can cut with a swing from any direction. Energy swords, because they have bladed edges, must be swung in certain orientations to successfully cut

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Some argue that the middle could be used to catch the lightsaber and twist or something

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I mean it’s still going to do massive damage

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From the flat side

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Lightsabres don't use batteries right?

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like Energy Swords?

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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They do

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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The older models did

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Lots of non canon stuff

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Like the pre 5000 BBY one's

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Kyber crystals eventually run out

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But it takes a very long time

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:07 PM

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The newer model's have energy packs but I never saw them run out lol

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Honestly a Force User wouldn't need to worry about an Energy Sword from Halo

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when they can just use the Force to break the wielders hand lol

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Still for the practical purposes of battle it’s not like either need to worry about just running out

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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True.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I may one day try to test a theory

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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You'd need a really looooooooooooong time for that to happen

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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planning to merge the technology of the newest light sabre

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with the shape of the energy sword

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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that wouldn't really work in Star Wars

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Unless someone came up with a new style just for that

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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The way the weapons are held also affect their usefulness. The ES is held like an extension of the fist, so it excels at slashing and stabbing motions that follow the natural movement of the arm, but for blocking they would be inferior

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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is that possible?

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Well there are many lightsaber versions

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There are lightsaber whips

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Energy swords are made for sangheili in mind

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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You could probably shape a light saber like an energy sword but that would be a downgrade

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It would be harder to use

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:10 PM

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You could also just go full monke and wield 3 lightsabers at the same time via telekinesis

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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I don’t think those are canon. Those helicopter rotating helicopter blades are… and they’re weird

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Does it work well? Nah

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Does it look cool? I guess

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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how about making the energy sword split into 2 blades?

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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It already does

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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the ability to split into 2 seperate blades

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Force isn’t this limitless thing that when one has it it can think of it it just happens. that’s why feat based.

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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I had thought about this in a dream

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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There’s energy lances too

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The unsc has energy bayonets

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:12 PM

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IDK how I would design a different energy sword

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Basically you split the sword into 2 blades.

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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I think s Jedi had a saber that had two hilts

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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and the handle can be switched to a sabre-type

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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And 4 blades?

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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There was a Jedi in the clone wars who dual wielded saberstaffs

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He had four arms so he could make it work

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Yeah Krell

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though I mean something else

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Like a standard one blade saber that has two blades from the same side of the hilt

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:16 PM

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That just sounds like Kylo ren’s exhaust ports

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Ah no wait

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she uses the same thing as ugly Rey

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https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hinged_double-bladed_lightsaber

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Guess Wayseeker's like to show off

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Not a fan of the hinge

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Tho I do like dual sabers that can be combined into a saber staff

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:17 PM

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It did work good on the Drengir

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So judging by Shadow's of Reach

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is Cortana's system really just a not-working regime lol?

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:22 PM

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What do you mean

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:22 PM

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She subjugeted planet's into obiedience by killing thousands in order to achieve peace

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:23 PM

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She doesn’t have the numbers to directly police every star system in the galaxy as the same time, so she sends guardians when she detects conflict and thereby prioritizes policing high-value areas

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:23 PM

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yet beings that are smart enough to figure out her system, aka the Banished, can still do whatever they want to as long as they don't trigger the Overwatch AIs.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:23 PM

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The death toll was more a result of raising the guardians, a toll she just didn’t care about

noble fjord Oct 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Ok correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Shock Rifle technically our first time using a UNSC plasma weapon? (Not counting the Rhino)

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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She isn’t really going around killing people beyond that

noble fjord Oct 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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thinkingchief

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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noble fjord Ok correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Shock Rifle technically our first time us...

Shock rifle is not a UNSC weapon

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It’s a brute weapon

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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humble yacht She isn’t really going around killing people beyond that

looks at end of Guardians yeah suureeee

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:25 PM

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There may have been deaths cause as a result of the guardian emp but it was intended to be a disabling attack

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It’s not like shooting someone with a gun, it’s more like you shoot out their tires and they roll their car and die

noble fjord Oct 5, 2021, 5:25 PM

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I think she finds military personnel casualties as collateral damage

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:25 PM

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Debris doesn't discriminate

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nor does the EMP

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I mean sure, she's not going around killing people just because

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but she doesn't really care if they do they either

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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I'm not too sure if Spartan 3s are more "incomplete" compared to Spartan 2s

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Think of it this way

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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because Spartan 3s feel weaker

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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humble yacht She isn’t really going around killing people beyond that

She was on Meridian and Balaho, at least.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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You can’t rule over an empty galaxy

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Well they were meant to be weaker

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Didn’t Bahalo submit?

south matrix Oct 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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and very unfinished compared to Spartan 2s

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Yeah the Unggoy sbumitted

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But I can't blame them for saying "Eh, screw that war"

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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south matrix and very unfinished compared to Spartan 2s

Spartan 3s actually represent an advancement of the spartan-making process

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Maybe they all went to help Yapyap after that 🤔

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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humble yacht Didn’t Bahalo submit?

Talkin about her using Prometheans to kill all the humans at the UEG embassy as soon as the unggoy declared loyalty.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:28 PM

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The only reason they feel “weaker” is because they got cheaper armor

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:28 PM

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also apperantly as of Shadow's of Reach the Infinity has some SIIIs on board

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Wonder who that is - probably rest of Gamma

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 5:28 PM

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And she used Prometheans to murder as many colonists on Meridian as possible.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:28 PM

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I think targeting ueg leadership is different from attacking civilians

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Well I’m still not sure she directly ordered warden to massacre meridian like that

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But she certainly didn’t stop him

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 5:29 PM

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humble yacht But she certainly didn’t stop him

The key point

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Seems more like she just told him to get it done and didn’t Care how he did it

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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What sort of AI is the Warden anyway?

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He doesn't seem exactly... bright

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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I think there is a difference between apathy and evil

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Warden used to be the guardian of the domain

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I know that

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:31 PM

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We don’t know more than that in terms of his origins but his processing power is high to be able to command multiple bodies at such far distances

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 5:31 PM

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humble yacht I think there is a difference between apathy and evil

Sometimes there's not much of one.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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They’re both not ideal character traits

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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He still seems... well I just expected an high class Forerunner AI to be closer to the Monitor's

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aka they do they work, they don't act evil

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Warden has been on par with spark in terms of his willingness to kill to perform his duties

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:33 PM

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It also seems like a stupid move to put an AI that dislikes humans in charge of protecting the Mantle that humans were meant to take

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Yeah but Spark isn't an AI, he's a composed human.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:33 PM

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The forerunners didn’t believe in that

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Well not the ones in charge

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Librarian believed it but she wasn’t responsible for guarding the domain

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Also the mantle and the domain are not the same thing

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And the warden doesn’t simply not like humans, but rather expressed disdain for all biological life forms

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:36 PM

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I never understand why Sci-fi universes have such issues with AI's going rogue.
It's like... why not think of a solution before it goes rampant? Or, don't teach it bad stuff.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:37 PM

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The whole point of AI is that they learn on their own

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Yes but they can be influenced by organic's and experiences

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:37 PM

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If it only learned what it was taught then it wouldn’t really be a true intelligence

versed helm Oct 5, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Like in Mass Effect - or even Halo

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 5:38 PM

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It’s the same reason why sci fi often defaults to aliens being bad

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And in terms of halo, it does have a solution

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Human AI normally die from rampancy and never reach a point where they can cause harm on the level Cortana has

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She was a special circumstance because she made it to the domain and was cured of the fatal effects

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Also human AI have kill codes programmed into them

fair hazel Oct 5, 2021, 6:50 PM

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But she had already been rampant and damaged

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And again not all AI joined her

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I wonder what happened and happens to the Ai who refuse to join her

unique rune Oct 5, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Just to be sure I haven’t missed something, there hasn’t been any official reason for Dynast-class Mjolnir’s resemblance to Storm-class Sangheili armor, right?

gilded mason Oct 5, 2021, 7:14 PM

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unique rune Just to be sure I haven’t missed something, there hasn’t been any official reaso...

Don't thiiink so? But one of the skins for it does have the SoS emblem on it.

humble yacht Oct 5, 2021, 7:21 PM

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fair hazel I wonder what happened and happens to the Ai who refuse to join her

Probably nothing. To other AI she was offering a choice for salvation, to everything there was no choice, it was either submit or consequences

unique rune Oct 5, 2021, 7:30 PM

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gilded mason Don't *thiiink* so? But one of the skins for it does have the SoS emblem on it.

I figured as much.
Never really liked the description for Dynast just being a super expensive CQC/CQB replacement.

With its visual similarity to Storm harnesses I would've preferred it as a collaborative experiment in using nanolaminate plating in Mjolnir construction or something.

chrome spade Oct 5, 2021, 11:06 PM

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cortana is losing it

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especcially on 4

stable flower Oct 6, 2021, 12:02 AM

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It would be insulting if the majority of the Created conflict was relegated to the EU

terse lava Oct 6, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Would it really be that much if a shock though?

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Not a shock but a major disappointment

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It would show 343 isn’t confident in their own arc

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And that doesn’t bode well for future stories and continuity if they just shelve story beats anytime there is some backlash

terse lava Oct 6, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Yeah, first the didact( chief's nemesis) then Jul, and likely Cortana

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Neverminded them using the didact, but what's the point in building him up as the big bad of the "Reclaimer trilogy/saga" to just shelve him

brave grove Oct 6, 2021, 12:42 AM

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I think the didact will be the harbringer in Infinite, personally

terse lava Oct 6, 2021, 12:45 AM

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Maybe, but feels to obvious, seeing as the Didact had the same voice actor as the Reaper, named Harbinger, in Mass Effect

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They already had Mantle's Approach resemble a Reaper

brave grove Oct 6, 2021, 12:50 AM

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I just couldn’t see it being anything else personally, at least from the characters i know. Maybe the warden, or Mendicent Bias (but i think he’s dead??)

terse lava Oct 6, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Far as we are currently aware, Mendicant perished on the ark helping chief escape(my guess, delaying the scaffolding from falling early and perhaps even slowing down the firing sequence)

cobalt quiver Oct 6, 2021, 1:46 AM

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What were the Marks I-III and where were they featured in canon?

unique rune Oct 6, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Assuming we're talking about the MJOLNIR Project, they were very different from Mk.IV onwards.

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All three were much bulkier and heavier than the form-fitting body armor made famous by the Spartan programs and very limited in range due to power supply issues.
Mk.I and II were both tethered to a nearby generator, while Mk.III was powered by wireless energy transmission but was still severely range-limited.

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Advancements from these early iterations of Project MJOLNIR later fed into Projects HRUNTING and YGGDRASIL, which eventually led to powered exoskeletons like the prototype exoskeleton from The Prototype, Cyclops, Mantis, etc.
Mk.I suits were used by Spartan-II trainers on Reach for protection against the newly-augmented Spartans.

remote sun Oct 6, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I wonder if anyone actually discovered the Spartan Program if anyone would belive them. "The UN is kidnapping kids and replacing them with clones to fight the innies!!!" would probably lead to "Ok, please put on this straight jacket"

last anchor Oct 6, 2021, 3:27 AM

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I mean thats basically what happened to Ben Jiraud.
ONI publicly denounced him and locked him away in Midnight Facility.

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Also, at least 2 parents of Spartan kidnapee's found out what happened to their kids. One was silenced by ONI I believe and the other one was Naiomi-010s father and hes listed as missing presumed dead, bu t operating out of Venezia last I heard.

wispy wasp Oct 6, 2021, 5:08 AM

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What likely would the Gettysburg ascendant justice have looked like?

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Is it just the two ships kinda haphazardly connected to each other at some point?

tacit charm Oct 6, 2021, 5:21 AM

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its basically supergluing the yettisburg on the top of the justice

wispy wasp Oct 6, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Ahh ok, lol

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~~So basically anglerfish~~

hexed prawn Oct 6, 2021, 5:38 AM

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Would Craig be named Craigus or Craigum?

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:38 AM

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The spelling! Orca and Spartan ahhhh

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MJOLNIR mark IV was retroactively named mark IV, it wasnt a clear, 1, 2, 3 okay now we're at the 4th

tacit charm Oct 6, 2021, 5:48 AM

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grim

random lantern Oct 6, 2021, 6:14 AM

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What was the UNSC's long-term plans for any Covie POW they captured? Prisoner exchanges obviously wouldn't be a thing and I find it unlikely they'd just casually murder them after a while.

tacit pecan Oct 6, 2021, 6:36 AM

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I don't think they had many towards the end of the War.

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They had quite a few in the beginning.

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Grunts and Elites are the ones that stick out more.

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 6:54 AM

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Midnight facility

tacit pecan Oct 6, 2021, 7:29 AM

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For all your prisoners of war needs, choose the Midnight Facility.

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Got Prisoners of War? Pesky journalists stick their noses in too deep? Was your neighbor just a little too rude for your liking? The Midnight Facility is just what you need.

brave grove Oct 6, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Idk if he’s at the midnight facility, but is that san’shuum ONI captured the last known one to be alive?

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 7:44 AM

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I answered too early. I mean I’m sure there’s others alive. But that’s the last news we’ve had of San shyuum

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 9:59 AM

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random lantern What was the UNSC's long-term plans for any Covie POW they captured? Prisoner ex...

Hood in Glasslands said that the forces under his command had no POWs so they probably died.

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Then again - there's ONI.
They probably have some.

warm acorn Oct 6, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Why Dare the only ODST soldier with different helmet?

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Because she's not an ODST

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She's an ONI agent

inland jackal Oct 6, 2021, 12:01 PM

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How many Spartan IIs were there? Like all candidates dead and alive

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:13 PM

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i belive 150

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and 75 were actually conscripted

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though my memory is iffy

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:16 PM

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I wonder if any of the non conscripted Spartans joined the UNSC and then became Spartan IVs

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:17 PM

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doubt it

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:17 PM

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How comr

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:17 PM

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spartan 2 and spartan 4's are wildly different

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:18 PM

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No i meant one of the non conscripted. One of the kids who never got kidnapped. Maybe one of them joined up when they were 19, had a great career and then signed up to a IV when the program launched

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Hm?

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:20 PM

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that’s probably more likely, but from what I understand you had to be the best of the best to be picked for the Spartan 4 program

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:20 PM

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I thought all the ideal kids were kidnapped

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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I doubt ALL the ideal kids were kidnapped

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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static ore that’s probably more likely, but from what I understand you had to be the best o...

at first, yes. but then they expanded the pool. Like, Buck was considered to be the best of the best and a few months later, Romeo and Mickey are allowed in

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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oh I didn’t know that

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I haven’t been keeping up with the expanded universe lmao

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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static ore I doubt ALL the ideal kids were kidnapped

Yes, in Fall of Reach, Dr. Halsey mentions funding issues. ONI can only provide so much money for war crimes!

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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^

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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and plus they probably wondered “hey how many kids can we kidnap before someone notices”

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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atleast 150

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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Judging from Halopedia

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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I know they were replaced with an identical clone or something

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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well, 150 kids out of how many billions

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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flash clone yeah

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

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There were a total of 75 trainees

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

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75 trainees who survived augmentation i believe

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150 in total

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

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and only 33+ survived survived the augmentation

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

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hm

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my source is wrong then

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i shall be back

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yeah u right

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75 total, 33 surviving

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12 crippled

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:24 PM

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I wonder if any Spartan II’s accidentally saved their parents at one point

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that would be kinda interesting

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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maybe

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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god-

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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i would honestly like to see more of the augmentation survivors who never got to become spartans

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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urgh

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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swift kelp god-

what

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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why must this server be kid friendly

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cannot curse word

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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good question

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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i want to curse word 💀

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:25 PM

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yeah, it's crap

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wait

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I thought all trainees that had been augmented became a Spartan

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:26 PM

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some got crippled

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:26 PM

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The augementations back then were very dangerous

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:26 PM

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a few rebelled and eventually joined back

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cough daisy cough

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Daisy is one of my faves

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:26 PM

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same

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underrated queen 😩

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 12:27 PM

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oh yeah

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I confused

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:27 PM

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daisy rebelled and went to kill her flash clone

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she did not kill her clone though

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:28 PM

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daisy: you’re weak
daisy: I’m you

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:29 PM

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exactly

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adriana is also underrated af

static ore Oct 6, 2021, 12:29 PM

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dude I’ve never heard of either of these Spartans

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I should really consider getting into expanded universe stuff

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Adriana is on grey team

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pretty cool

bronze schooner Oct 6, 2021, 1:12 PM

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versed helm i would honestly like to see more of the augmentation survivors who never got to...

Didn’t they all die and launched into space because they were deformed and had problems

carmine sleet Oct 6, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Many of the Spartans that were crippled were rehabilitated and eventually able to serve the UNSC in some capacity, whether that being re-augmented and being able to fight alongside other Spartan IIs, like Red Team (HW1/HW2) or working for the head of ONI as her protégé in the case of Serin Osman

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 2:13 PM

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serin osman 😩

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Daisy’s bear keychain should be a weapon charm in infinite

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Maybe also a variant with a blood splatter on it to remind us of the tragedy

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 2:35 PM

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yes

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yess

swift kelp Oct 6, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Who is your favorite spartan >:))

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 2:55 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 3:00 PM

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humble yacht Daisy’s bear keychain should be a weapon charm in infinite

That’s what I’ve been saying

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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I think I’ve been saying it longer

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 3:47 PM

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swift kelp Who is your favorite spartan >:))

linda-058 or jerome-092 for me

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never forget when Jerome absolutely wrecked a flood combat form on SoF with a random chair

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Chair's do make great weapons

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Israel

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Chair splatter charm?

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 4:06 PM

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versed helm Israel

?

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 4:06 PM

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fair hazel ?

israel

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 4:07 PM

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versed helm israel

Are you going to say random words or actually talk?

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 4:07 PM

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fair hazel Are you going to say random words or actually talk?

random words

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 4:07 PM

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versed helm random words

Then this isn’t the server for that. Now please stick to discussion.

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Ericky is anti Hawaii because he hates spam

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Didn’t know that’s where they fished for it

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Spam is really popular in Hawaii

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It might even be considered their national food

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 4:18 PM

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fair hazel Chair splatter charm?

with flood bits on it?? count me in

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“captain, something has happened: Spartan Jerome-092 just used a chair as a melee weapon against the Flood”

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 4:57 PM

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By the prophets, what have these brutes done, they have shed our brothers blood! And for that they must DIE 😩 halo is life

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 4:57 PM

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There’s probably several weapon charms that would be nice more references.

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Too bad the ace of spades isn’t sergeant forge

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 4:59 PM

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A coin

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That could be a charm

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Ace of spades. Chair. Coin. Teddy bear.

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A mini arum would be cool

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:01 PM

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A chair would make for a weird charm

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At least the coin and bear keychain would be too scale

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:01 PM

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A mini chair of course. Not a full sized chair hanging from the gun

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Duh

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That’s what would make it weird

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:02 PM

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That would be very awkward.

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Feel like you aren’t getting me

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:05 PM

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No I don’t think you’ll be a weapon charm so I obviously won’t be having you on my guns. So you’re right.

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Smh

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Ooo, an AI data chip would work as a charm

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 5:08 PM

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mini halo ring charm???

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Did Chief still have Cortana’s chip in SoR?

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 5:10 PM

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ummm i can do a quick check i have the book right here

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i don’t think it was mentioned

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:11 PM

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How you gonna quickly check a 400 pg book? Lol

vernal acorn Oct 6, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Lol

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 5:11 PM

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probably in sections where it would make sense to mention it

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Unless it’s an eBook

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 5:12 PM

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either way off the top of my head i don’t think they mentioned it

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Ebook yeah but I don’t recall him having that and I don’t see why he would at that moment

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 5:13 PM

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That begs the question then of what happened to it after 5

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 5:13 PM

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i wonder where he would keep the coin and the chip

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i’m sure chief would have some sort of private quarters on Infinity where he would keep things like that

fair hazel Oct 6, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Seeing the bell again was such a moment

fresh sandal Oct 6, 2021, 5:19 PM

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even better that it was hit 3 times

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 5:58 PM

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When I first read that chatpre and it was described as a helmet sized object I thought it was Noble's 6 armor

velvet rose Oct 6, 2021, 7:05 PM

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why are the grunts helping the brutes in halo 3 while they are seen fighting against them in halo 2 ?

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Gameplay reasons

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They didn’t want the player to be confused about what units were allies and what units were enemies

velvet rose Oct 6, 2021, 7:19 PM

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makes sense

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it also kinda fits into their coward nature i guess

humble yacht Oct 6, 2021, 7:21 PM

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It’s not the same grunts

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In the lore, some grunts defected while others remained loyal

remote sun Oct 6, 2021, 7:51 PM

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velvet rose it also kinda fits into their coward nature i guess

Suicide grunts seem pretty brave

stable flower Oct 6, 2021, 8:12 PM

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velvet rose why are the grunts helping the brutes in halo 3 while they are seen fighting aga...

The grunts fought for both sides during the Great Schism. You see this in-game in Gravemind.

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This fact is supported by placeholder dialogue for Cortana, where she states that the grunts are neutral or afraid to announce which side they support.

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 8:13 PM

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Grunts chose the side of whichever species they were hanging out with

woven plaza Oct 6, 2021, 8:32 PM

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"chose"
good joke smirkle

The only side the Grunts actually chose was probably the Created.

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at least, the Balaho grunts

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I think Buck (or some other Alpha-Nine guy) was like "Even all the aid the UEG was sending wasn't enough", so when Cortana basically offers the Grunts of Balaho probably more freedom than they've had in thousands of years, AS WELL AS a blank check to whatever resources they wanted

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is it surprising that the (non-affiliated/Balaho) Grunts willingly joined the Created

boreal condor Oct 6, 2021, 9:00 PM

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ds

stable flower Oct 6, 2021, 9:07 PM

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The Grunts are happy to be subjugated by people who actually treat them right

short plank Oct 6, 2021, 10:09 PM

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How tall was Kurt-051?

tiny pilot Oct 6, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Tall

swift seal Oct 6, 2021, 11:01 PM

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At least 5ft

versed helm Oct 6, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Well at age six he’s 4’8 and 8’2 in SPI armor

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Because John is 6’10 and with mjolnir he’s 7’2

tacit pecan Oct 6, 2021, 11:44 PM

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velvet rose why are the grunts helping the brutes in halo 3 while they are seen fighting aga...

Marine: "Those Brutes are tough."
Female Marine: "Grunts ain't no slouches either."
Thel 'Vadam: "The Grunts' new-found courage is but fear. When we are victorious, all who serve the Prophets will be punished."

short plank Oct 7, 2021, 12:07 AM

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versed helm Well at age six he’s 4’8 and 8’2 in SPI armor

Gawddang, man was an absolute unit

covert geyser Oct 7, 2021, 1:00 AM

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Indeed

warm acorn Oct 7, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Why you can't fight the elites in Halo 3 ODST but you can see their corpses during the first flashback when you play as Buck?

cunning bloom Oct 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Because that point the Brutes had taken over or something

earnest topaz Oct 7, 2021, 2:06 AM

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It’s concurrent with the outbreak of the Great Schism.

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I assume they were murdered by the Brutes.

cunning bloom Oct 7, 2021, 2:07 AM

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I was basically right

tacit pecan Oct 7, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Buck: "Veronica, what's with all the dead Elites?"
Dare (COM): "What do you mean?"
Buck: "It's like a family feud, like they were killed by Brutes. Is there something I should know?"
Dare (COM): "It's classified."

terse lava Oct 7, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Yeah, about two weeks before the schism started. Was just a way for Truth to ensure Earth and the portal were secure under Jiralhanae control when he arrived

tacit pecan Oct 7, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Dude didn't even wait for Regret to be killed to implement the changing of the Guard.

gilded mason Oct 7, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah, he'd been planning it for a while.

tacit pecan Oct 7, 2021, 2:43 AM

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And he would learn the Truth of this decision later, as he would come to Regret it, while being killed without Mercy by the Arbiter.

left light Oct 7, 2021, 2:48 AM

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tacit pecan And he would learn the Truth of this decision later, as he would come to Regret ...

I see what you did their truth mercy regret all in one sentence

tacit pecan Oct 7, 2021, 2:48 AM

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It was a stretch.

bronze schooner Oct 7, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Regret regretted his decision to attack earth, Mercy was given no mercy and was left behind, and Truth was saying he was Truth when he died which is true

craggy sierra Oct 7, 2021, 4:34 AM

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warm acorn Why you can't fight the elites in Halo 3 ODST but you can see their corpses duri...

Because Bungie never made a proper hostile elite AI for Halo 3 and the ally elites basically used a marine AI with a few extra behaviours.

left light Oct 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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they are in firefight in season 8 flights however their AI in terms of fighting you isn't that good

craggy sierra Oct 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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Yeah they just run at you and mag dump

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Which is basically what they do to enemies in Halo 3

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They didn't make a new AI for firefight. They just flip the team flag on them and basically put them into the state they go in when you betray allies.

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 6:54 AM

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That explains why the AI of Elites in H3 is soo stupid

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"Today I will throw a plasma grenade under my feet"

woven plaza Oct 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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hoping the work on MP bots carries over to improvements with the enemy AI

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 7:18 AM

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The ally AI could use some work too

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Sucidial Marines in ODST and 2 flashbacks

tacit charm Oct 7, 2021, 7:20 AM

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ce and reach suicidal marines: am i a joke to you

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tashi

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 7:24 AM

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At this point I'm too old to play CE

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and in Reach I speedrun the levels so I barely notice the Marines XD

tacit pecan Oct 7, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Well there are hardly any marines in Reach so you're not missing much.

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You don't actually see them until the last level.

tacit charm Oct 7, 2021, 7:27 AM

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oy ye

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the whole army trooper or marine smuck

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 7:49 AM

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Yes I meant the Army Troopers

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can you blame me for forgetting?

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~~Even Hood forgot~~

warm acorn Oct 7, 2021, 10:32 AM

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Why Brutes and Drones are absent in Combat Evolved?

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Where did they go?

cunning bloom Oct 7, 2021, 11:00 AM

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tacit pecan Well there are hardly any marines in Reach so you're not missing much.

Nah man they're everywhere in Reach

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They're in most levels

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 11:09 AM

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They are the Army troop guys

cunning bloom Oct 7, 2021, 11:12 AM

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True. The UNSC Army is everywhere in Reach then

pulsar grail Oct 7, 2021, 1:24 PM

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warm acorn Where did they go?

iirc lore wise they just weren't in Thel's/Arbiter before the Arbiter's fleet

humble yacht Oct 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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There were brutes in Thel’s fleet, they show up in the books iirc

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If there is it’s flimsy

worldly crystal Oct 7, 2021, 2:05 PM

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We're talking about the ally AI? Anyone wanna mention how horrible of a driver Kat is?

prisma steppe Oct 7, 2021, 2:07 PM

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versed helm At this point I'm too old to play CE

You probably mean too young for CE 🤔

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Whippersnapper

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 2:10 PM

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No, I'm too old.

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I can't stand how outdated most of the mechanics are

humble yacht Oct 7, 2021, 2:39 PM

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worldly crystal We're talking about the ally AI? Anyone wanna mention how horrible of a driver K...

She has the same driving AI as the marines

earnest topaz Oct 7, 2021, 3:23 PM

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versed helm I can't stand how outdated most of the mechanics are

So you’re too young then. lol

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Nah, I played it when it came out

earnest topaz Oct 7, 2021, 3:25 PM

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So did I. Does CE only appeal to kids now? 😛

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I’d think kids would have a harder time adjusting to the older mechanics.

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 3:44 PM

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CE appeals to halo players

humble yacht Oct 7, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Not all halo players

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Not all 36 of them

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 3:57 PM

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earnest topaz I’d think kids would have a harder time adjusting to the older mechanics.

What older mechanics? This isnt elder scrolls 1. CE is walk, shoot, punch, and throw grenade. That's most of the game

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My kids love ce

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Its not like Doom 1993 where you have to search an empty map for a keycard. Halo CE has aged well

bronze schooner Oct 7, 2021, 4:01 PM

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humble yacht She has the same driving AI as the marines

No way, my Marine Mans are way better, same with the Army Troopers

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Except for the CE marines cause they can’t physically drive

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 4:04 PM

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CE marines can drive ghosts

bronze schooner Oct 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Not Warthogs though

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Yeah true.

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Although they do in the opening cutscene of the game but that doesnt count because they are scripted to do rhat

earnest topaz Oct 7, 2021, 4:10 PM

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versed helm What older mechanics? This isnt elder scrolls 1. CE is walk, shoot, punch, and t...

I don’t know, I was going off what Petrus said. lol

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“I can't stand how outdated most of the mechanics are”

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Ah ok

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Well my biggest beef with CE is how

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sloooooooow it is

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if I wanted to spend a this much time running around the same looking place

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I'd play Halo 2 on legendary

woven plaza Oct 7, 2021, 7:21 PM

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to be clear the last known location of Offensive Bias is the lesser Ark, right?

humble yacht Oct 7, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Yes

woven plaza Oct 7, 2021, 7:36 PM

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hmm

azure umbra Oct 7, 2021, 8:33 PM

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is it canon that spartans piss in their own suit?

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armor*

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mijolnir*

manic bridge Oct 7, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Yes it is. They have a catheter in their tech suits

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It recycles their urine back to purified drinking water

terse lava Oct 7, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Hell, astronauts do that now

manic bridge Oct 7, 2021, 8:45 PM

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But not while shooting at people! lol

terse lava Oct 7, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Come to think of it, anyone notice the lack of covenant outhouses?

manic bridge Oct 7, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Well based on what that brute does in the Ark level (after you destroy the scarab) I know where they go lol

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In Halo 3

earnest topaz Oct 7, 2021, 8:49 PM

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terse lava Come to think of it, anyone notice the lack of covenant outhouses?

wHaTs tHe cAnOn eXpLanAiTiOn fOr tHe lAcK oF cOvEnAnT lAtRiNes

manic bridge Oct 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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lololol

versed helm Oct 7, 2021, 8:50 PM

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You taking a piss mate?

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Brutes probably

manic bridge Oct 7, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Immediately assassinated

grand river Oct 8, 2021, 12:05 AM

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I assume everyone here has the Halo: Official Spartan's Field Guide

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Right?

gilded mason Oct 8, 2021, 12:05 AM

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I do, at least

grand river Oct 8, 2021, 12:05 AM

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I got it today

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Due to a *** G I A N T*** stroke of luck

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I was at my school library club, chilling, when the librarian said that there would be a raffle, and to put our pieces of paper into a jar

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I was like, "I never get any thing out of raffles"

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I was the first out of five to get a brand new book

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5 out of 30 are picked for it

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One of the books was the Spartan's Field Guide

grand river Oct 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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yeah

woven plaza Oct 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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how big is Sanghelios' moon, Suban. Like supposedly it's the only source of Blamite (needler ammo), but i mean

there's a lotta needlers, and a lotta needler ammo

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What i'm getting at is the moon has to be getting low on blamite right

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or are there other sources of blamite with Suban being the main one

terse lava Oct 8, 2021, 1:35 AM

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Suban is thus far is the sole one, the reason the newer is so plentiful is that the Covenant had a great many wayststions for fleets to resupply. The stations had vast warehouses of the crystals.

woven plaza Oct 8, 2021, 1:39 AM

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right right but given the massive scale of the Covenant empire, plus the fact it had existed for a long time, ~~and I think the needler predates the Covenant~~ (might be wrong on this lemme check), I just think it's a rather huge amount of blamite mined from Suban

last anchor Oct 8, 2021, 1:51 AM

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No different than how much oil we pull from our soil is it?

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Needlers arent exactly standard issue weaponry either.

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Also, personally, considering how WEIRD it is, Im convinced the material regrows if you leave it for long enough.

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Self-replicating

humble yacht Oct 8, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Think about how long humans have been mining iron

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And there’s still more of it to mine

woven plaza Oct 8, 2021, 2:12 AM

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it's about scale
Wasn't the covenant forces tens of billions strong? Even a subset of that having a needler (let alone other blamite weaponry) is a lot

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not to mention needle rifles, and that one vehicle from halo wars

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the vampire?

tacit pecan Oct 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah, the Vampire

terse lava Oct 8, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Don't forget an energy sword variant, but yeah, seeing as they are in crystals, it's fully possible a "harvested core" could grow more in a few decades.

gentle ridge Oct 8, 2021, 3:02 AM

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woven plaza it's about scale Wasn't the covenant forces tens of billions strong? Even a subs...

Where is that said?

woven plaza Oct 8, 2021, 3:05 AM

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It's an assumption

terse lava Oct 8, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Yeah, for better or for worse, we have yet to be given how large the Covenant was and its population. Personally I always figured 100B at least,, seeing as how they have been around for 3400 years, where's the Citadel Council from Mass Effect, apparently has a population in the trillions and has existed for less timr

left light Oct 8, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I thought the Covenant was around for nearly 5000 year's

gilded mason Oct 8, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Nah, it was formed in 852 BC

left light Oct 8, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Alot of youtubers I know that I've learned alot from the lore usually say 5000 year history or nearly 5000 years but the keyword is nearly.

craggy sierra Oct 8, 2021, 3:50 AM

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I'm pretty sure elites alone were at the better part of 100B

woven plaza Oct 8, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Suban must be huge

versed helm Oct 8, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Is Suban visible in Sanghelios' skybox in Halo 5?

versed helm Oct 8, 2021, 12:03 PM

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I think it;s vsiible in one of the cutscenes for a brief moment

lament hornet Oct 8, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Qikost and Suban are both visible in the opening cutscene to the level, yeah

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https://halo.wiki.gallery/images/thumb/f/f7/H5G-Sanghelios_Moons_View.png/1200px-H5G-Sanghelios_Moons_View.png

bronze schooner Oct 8, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Do we have names for that one Marine ranting about Zebras and Lions and his Medic on Uplift Reserve

lament hornet Oct 8, 2021, 12:49 PM

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bronze schooner Do we have names for that one Marine ranting about Zebras and Lions and his Medi...

Alas, no, he's only known as 'Wounded Marine'

rotund lintel Oct 8, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Mjolnir Gen 3 is a downgrade from Gen 2

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Change my mind

humble yacht Oct 8, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Let’s not spread misinformation

random lantern Oct 8, 2021, 10:35 PM

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Why didn't Sesa Refumee try to defect to the UNSC, or at least contact them?

brazen lintel Oct 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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anyone have any SIV lore vids?

bronze schooner Oct 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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random lantern Why didn't Sesa Refumee try to defect to the UNSC, or at least contact them?

They didn’t really know where the Humans were due to glassing every other planet they were on
Probably wanted nothing to do with the Humans and just wanted to free his fellow elites
Why would the UNSC believe a random elite that says he wants to join forces

gilded mason Oct 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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random lantern Why didn't Sesa Refumee try to defect to the UNSC, or at least contact them?

He was afraid they'd kill him on sight, according to the terminals.

random lantern Oct 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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gilded mason He was afraid they'd kill him on sight, according to the terminals.

He could just try testing the waters with some communication first instead of showing up in a UNSC system.

bronze schooner Oct 8, 2021, 10:39 PM

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gilded mason He was afraid they'd kill him on sight, according to the terminals.

Exactly

random lantern Oct 8, 2021, 10:39 PM

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bronze schooner 1. They didn’t really know where the Humans were due to glassing every other pla...

That's logical.

warm acorn Oct 9, 2021, 1:38 AM

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How many times does the UNSC successfully nuked Covenant ships?

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 2:04 AM

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depends on the nuke yield cause something like a havok should generally take a covenant ship even with shields

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btw do not show me the fall of reach movie where they had to detonate a havok inside the cruiser that was just artistic licencing

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if you want a clear answer ghost of onyx, around twelve ships composed of 11 destroyers and 1 super cruiser got oofed off by 14 hornet mines or fourteen 30 megaton nukes. four other ships survived but theres not much info on how far they were away from the blast

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:22 AM

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is new blood canon?

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because they did my boy rookie dirty

gilded mason Oct 9, 2021, 3:23 AM

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It is canon, yeah

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:23 AM

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my dude really fought through a city full of covenant and died to rebels

humble yacht Oct 9, 2021, 3:31 AM

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He more snuck through a city of covenant

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:35 AM

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not when i played as him

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i was like “what does this grenade do”

fair hazel Oct 9, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Realistically? he'd be sneaking around

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And that's the thing, when you played as him, not really a canon thing

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:38 AM

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i know but it’s more fun to think he was just running around throwing grenades not being silent at all

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Poor rookie then Mickey I mean come on joining the team that killed a member of your own squad.

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:41 AM

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wispy prawn Poor rookie then Mickey I mean come on joining the team that killed a member of ...

i don’t know why mickey did that, i thought he was smarter than that

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:41 AM

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Yeah it hurt me inside

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:42 AM

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it probably hurt romeo and buck too tbh

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:42 AM

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True

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:43 AM

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and mickey really grew on me in odst so i was a little sad by him doing that

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:43 AM

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Yeah

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Sad way for alpha nine to end

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:44 AM

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another thing that hurt me was halo 5 them trying to ruin buck

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:44 AM

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YES!!!

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:45 AM

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like his spartan armor was dope but the story was just eh

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Yeah then having him and osiris try to arrest master chief. Pain

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:46 AM

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and tried to act like they had a chance

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but master chief has like 40 years of experience compared to then

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*them

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Haha yeah 4s against 2s

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Not even

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:47 AM

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it’s like a rocket launcher vs a plasma pistol

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Yes yes it is

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:48 AM

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all the characters in halo 5 could’ve been cool if they written the story better

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:49 AM

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Yeah no connection to the characters

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Just orders orders orders

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:49 AM

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last connection i had to a character was jorge and emile

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that game might get some decent hate but i love that game

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oh and i forgot about johnson

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Yeah reach was great cause it showed human error unlike the main trilogy

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:50 AM

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exactly

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idk why i recently played halo ce and i was actually genuinely sad that foehammer died

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Rip foehammer. 117 things you missed in halo reach is a great video that proves human error in the game

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:52 AM

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i actually watched that and i agree 100%

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:53 AM

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simple things like cat missing the elevator button

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:53 AM

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kats death is such a meme to me

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 3:53 AM

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same

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:53 AM

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like i was never sad about her death i was kinda just laughing

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Yes

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:54 AM

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but jorge was just sad to me

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:54 AM

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Yeah Jorge was sad

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:54 AM

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dude thought he saved reach when he died

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Then slip space rupture x100

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R.I.P.

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:55 AM

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emiles death was just straight up dope

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 3:55 AM

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jorge death was sad but idk man if they had positioned one at their odp at the supercarrier it would of likely finished the job

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Who’s next I’m ready how bout you!!!

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:56 AM

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it’s crazy knowing his insides disintegrated but still had the strength to kill off the elite

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 3:56 AM

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a bit odd how 6 got shot a few times and just only decided to watch emile die

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I'm... mostly okay with Halo Reach's campaign if I look at it as just an independent thing, but every time I try to consider it with the whole context of the Halo universe it tends to really get on my nerves.

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 3:57 AM

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tacit charm a bit odd how 6 got shot a few times and just only decided to watch emile die

because it would’ve been too late to help

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 3:57 AM

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ik but its just weird

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Which is at least a smidge better than Halo 3's campaign which I think is terrible as both an independent piece and as part of the whole universe.

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 3:58 AM

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again he was shot a few time but then what he stayed in that crouching position in the same spot until that marine told him to get on board also what happened to that phantom

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Idk man

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:00 AM

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I still can't stand how dumb Reach's campaign seems to make the UNSC.
Whole Covenant invasion force manages to land on the planet almost entirely unnoticed.

Humanity should've lost the war in like a month at that rate.

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:00 AM

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esp with that supercarrier i mean ye theres stealth tech but that only goes so far

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Over whelming numbers!!!

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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the thing is the size of an asteroid youd think the unsc would detect something entering their atmosphere

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Which is better to you nova01 3s campaign or 4s campaign

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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4's campaign by a longshot

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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3

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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3

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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I absolutely cannot stand Halo 3's campaign

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Idk man

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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4 was alright just remove the didact or set him up as a better character

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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What about the “covenant” in 4

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Most of the level design ranges from unremarkable to completely horrible.
Half the campaign's entire run time is just wasted running around on Africa with barely any actual impact.

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:03 AM

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tbf

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you're not actually wrong esp on the ark i mean how was truth going to activate the arrays

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Yeah true

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They didn’t know that though

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:04 AM

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its kind of convenient of all people they only captured one human and it so happens to be johnson

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I mean, he clearly knew, otherwise he wouldn't have captured Johnson.

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:04 AM

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High charity was at Mars they should have dropped off a few flood pods before going through the portal

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Halo 3 has a very bizarre and inconsistent relationship with the concept of storytelling tension

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:04 AM

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ik he knew but when you look at the story a bit closer what happenes if the unsc didnt go to the ark then wat

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:05 AM

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"whoops time to go back and grab some humans"

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:05 AM

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unique rune "whoops time to go back and grab some humans"

Hahaha

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They should have kept Johnson’s marine squad so he wasn’t the olny one

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Only

unique rune Oct 9, 2021, 4:06 AM

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All in all I just find Halo 3's campaign to be poorly written on its own and just sort of a really flat stumble to the finish line as the end of the original trilogy.

hexed prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:06 AM

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Fun fact: Master chief is master chief in the “Halo” video game universe

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:07 AM

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WOW that changes every thing

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:08 AM

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halo 2 was the best in the trilogy, while 3 had the best multiplayer

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:08 AM

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FACT

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I got the halo 2 original disk at a Xbox original with me rn

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And

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:09 AM

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i got the halo 3 helmet from the halo 3 xbox on my dresser

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:10 AM

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NICE

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Saw one at a game trade store for $140

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I’m learning how to just make my own

tacit charm Oct 9, 2021, 4:10 AM

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wow

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have not heard of game traders in a quite awhile

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Family owns a welding shop it will be real metal

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:11 AM

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im trying to buy a cosplay of odst armor and helmet but its 500 dollars and i only got 300

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:12 AM

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I saw a ODST helmet on eBay I can’t remember the price but it was bellow $200

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100 something

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:12 AM

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the one im looking at is really nice and im buying the airsoft version of it because id rather have it last instead of being used once and breaking

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:13 AM

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YOO

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Airsoft version that’s nice

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:14 AM

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wispy prawn Airsoft version that’s nice

yeah saw the comparisons of the cosplay version and airsoft and airsoft just seems better

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Yeah cosplays cool and all but it’s easy break

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:15 AM

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yeah and i aint dealing with paying 210 for it when i can buy it for 230 with less of a chance of it breaking

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Good call

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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but im looking for the odst armor and found one but the best one is like 310 dollars

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for like the chest, gauntlets, thigh, and shoulders

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Huh

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Neat

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:17 AM

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i just wish it was cheaper but thats life it aint gonna be cheaper

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but i am tryna buy the black undersuit thing to make it look nice

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:18 AM

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That’s smart

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My one goal in life get a working realistic warthog

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All I want

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:19 AM

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wispy prawn My one goal in life get a working realistic warthog

my goal is that too trust me

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going to walmart for groceries and people see me pull up with the wartwhip

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Heck Yeah!!!!

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:20 AM

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its nickname would be the hogslayer lol

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:21 AM

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I’ve been thinking about it it would be cool if you could detach the turret for troop hog pieces with extra seats gauss hog or rocket hog.

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:22 AM

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wispy prawn I’ve been thinking about it it would be cool if you could detach the turret for ...

imagine having a gauss hog irl how fast youd get pulled over

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especially if u got one of the boys on it

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:22 AM

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Hahaha yeah

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Imagine remote control turret add some of those nerf sticky bullets road rage just give there car a quick spray from the hog turret.

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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OMG YEAH

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but that would be vandalism

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according to law

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Don’t harm no one

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But yeah technically

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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harms the vehicle

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which is what most vandalism is

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but i would still do it cause itll be funny

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Yeah!!!

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Hypothetically it would be fun

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But consequences

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:30 AM

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wispy prawn But consequences

IF THEY CAN CATCH ME

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:31 AM

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Hahahaha

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:31 AM

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change the nerf to an actual gauss turret

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that would be the twist of the century

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Police chasing you? Go off a cliff Flip your hog it will land upwards again and you can keep driving

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:33 AM

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wispy prawn Police chasing you? Go off a cliff Flip your hog it will land upwards again and ...

nah jump out and then mlg get into it

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and take no fall damage

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and then i call in air support of a pelican

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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True

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Pelicans feel like something the military could use in the future like actually though

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:35 AM

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wispy prawn Pelicans feel like something the military could use in the future like actually ...

same with scorpions ahem

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:36 AM

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That’s what’s cool about Halo it all is believable. I mean curtain parts of it

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:37 AM

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yeah

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i feel like a ghost irl would be awesome to have

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same with the chopper

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Yeah

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Anything halo irl would be cool

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I’d be happy with a mongoose

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:38 AM

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yeah but i just think having a ghost would surprise people and would be possible except for the alien tech and the energy beams

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Yeah I would make one with barely visible wheels it could be possible

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:41 AM

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yes

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but were getting to the point where hoverboards are almost real

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so i think we could make it lift

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:41 AM

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True

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The thing is the US already has pelicans like no joke but there just don’t look like em and there vertical lift jets

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:44 AM

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wispy prawn The thing is the US already has pelicans like no joke but there just don’t look ...

now we need banshees

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to destroy the pelican with a girl with the codename foehammer

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:44 AM

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Yeah

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Banshees would be the hardest to recreate I feel like even scarabs are doable

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:47 AM

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scarabs would be dope to have

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but would also be a nightmare

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 4:48 AM

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True imagine having a good sleep and I’m the distance you hear and feel Bum err bum err bum

versed helm Oct 9, 2021, 4:55 AM

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ikr

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its like a nightmare and a reality

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Yeah then you just hear mmmmm lazar noises and a bright light fills the town as building after building crumble to the ground in a flame of plasma

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 1:26 PM

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wispy prawn Anything halo irl would be cool

Flood would be not cool

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Yeah think about it they would get a gravemind by infecting a town the government would send in special ops they would get infected then all the flood have their knowledge and then they infect pilots boat captains and we’re all gone

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The North Pole would be the only place we’re they would be slowed down but not stoped

neon crane Oct 9, 2021, 1:58 PM

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I've never played halo before, but a master chief-esque character is now in my dnd campaign and I'm trying to read up on halo lore, especailly the things that happen between chief and cortana

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cortana was like chiefs online internet waifu right?

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and he was ppicked over somebody else due to his luck right?

fathom epoch Oct 9, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Cortana was like Chief's phone. And she picked him over Noble Team cause he had "luck" yeah.

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Also hey. This is a little weird... But a few days ago, I wrote up a little mini essay specifically about the stories of Halo 4 and 5. Probably not the most popular topics of discussion these days, but I couldn't stop thinking about it and I had to put it into words. I don't know if that's alright to post here. But if anybody's got 15-20 minutes to give it a quick read, I'd love to talk about it with some people.

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 2:28 PM

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fathom epoch Cortana was like Chief's phone. And she picked him over Noble Team cause he had ...

Over noble team??

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

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wispy prawn The North Pole would be the only place we’re they would be slowed down but not s...

Or we can just throw the halo lore away and boom they are gone

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 2:32 PM

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NOOo halo lore is amazing

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 2:32 PM

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The flood part

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 2:32 PM

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It’s interesting still

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To me

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Yeah just irl

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It would be chaos

wispy prawn Oct 9, 2021, 2:33 PM

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True that

fathom epoch Oct 9, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I'm getting that from the old "Meet Noble team" trailer from before Reach even launched.
Where Halsey is listing off and describing each member of Noble Team, then asks somebody to pick one of them, and the choice is never revealed.
And considering the context of how Noble Team fought and died to get Cortana to the Pillar of Autumn, and to the Chief, I'm bridging that gap and figuring that Halsey was asking Cortana which member of Noble Team she wanted to be with, to which Cortana went "Pump these fools in another AI's face. I want the Chief."

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 2:34 PM

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I don’t think that’s what happened but idk

fathom epoch Oct 9, 2021, 2:35 PM

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I mean, yeah it's possible that the trailer isn't canon. But it doesn't really go against any other part of the lore, so I don't think that part really matters.

tepid barn Oct 9, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Mhm