#lore-and-universe

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visual hare
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They could always have him in infinite if they wanted.

humble yacht
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He’s a talent scout/trainer

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They could

gilded mason
visual hare
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My favorite was Emile though.

humble yacht
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Of course he was

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Emile appeals to the edgy demographic

visual hare
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Yeah, and he had a sick skull on his helmet.

terse lava
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I found him annoying

unique rune
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A239 sure was… present.

stable flower
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Marlo Stanfield!

craggy tendon
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was jun a better sniper than linda?

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or the other way around?

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im genuinely curious of what people think

humble yacht
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Linda has more lore detailing her exploits

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Most people would say she’s better. But without knowing what Jun has actually done, it’s hard to directly compare

craggy tendon
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yeah i only know about jun's fight during the reach escape and jun in the game.

humble yacht
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What reach escape?

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If you mean Fist Full of Arrows, that’s not canon

terse lava
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Off the top of my head, beat feat we have for Linda's skill was taking out three banshee pilots via sniping them through the gap in the craft, while hanging from a wire in a covenant battleststation. Can't recall if she was upside down or not as well during that

humble yacht
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Think she was

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But IMO that just means she’s ok playing with inverted controls

carmine sleet
terse lava
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True, but was going on purely her sniping skill

tacit charm
merry shoal
pulsar pivot
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I was Always Stuck in between June and Emile

last anchor
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When you've done absolutely everything else, why not try extinction?

coral spade
terse lava
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@tacit charm I am yes

craggy sierra
halcyon remnant
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guys I have a question about a book o:

eager cave
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Chief is going to die in halo infinite

halcyon remnant
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ll

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lol

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is shadows of reach a good book

grizzled bough
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Apparently we wont have another halo gane for a decade according to something I read

grizzled bough
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Why couldnt they spare emile

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They even took the extra mile of showing you his body

languid tundra
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headhunters hunt for head 👀

viscid trout
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Gonna be realnhere. Emile had the least personality and dialouge of any of noble six.....and screen time for that matter. At least you get to fight alongside jun.

gaunt oakBOT
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unique rune
halcyon remnant
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did anyone here actually got to read shadows of reach?

carmine sleet
halcyon remnant
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:C

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no one read shadows of reach

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:x

humble yacht
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No, I think no one just wants to tell you they read it

halcyon remnant
pulsar hawk
last anchor
unique rune
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What is this “reading” you speak of

ruby cobalt
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Yo do Spartans feel pain when their shields tank a shot? Btw how do shields work in the lore

humble yacht
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the shields disperse the kinetic energy so that it doesn't reach the actual spartan

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at most they'd feel some pressure or knockback, until the shields pop

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i'm not even sure if the shields let gas particles through

clever kernel
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Maybe like how kevlar works on a more absorbent level. Like you get a big bruise when shot, not a hole

halcyon remnant
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🥺

clever kernel
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Are the flood in any other galaxy? Cause weren’t the precursors like tier 0: transient or something.

clear beacon
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Doubt it. Even the Forerunners never went past the Milky Way.

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I'm assuming since the precursors dismantled themselves because of the forerunners, its a safe bet to only believe they're in the Milky Way.

clever kernel
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No clue how the precursors were beaten by the forerunners. Like oh, we’re being genocided by our own creations. Let’s just sit around in shock and have the proto gravemind dude (i forgot his name and google’s blocked) be the sole survivor

gilded mason
clever kernel
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Yes! That

gilded mason
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And the Gravemind (if he was being truthful) told the Librarian they were, as well.

clear beacon
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Sheeeeeesh

clever kernel
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So even if the flood was cleared in the milky way, no guarantee that the Galaxy would be safe forever

clear beacon
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I'm reading the Forerunner trilogy rn, hopefully I'll have some of that cleared up.

clever kernel
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So that’s why they had the flood research facilities

gilded mason
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Yeah

clever kernel
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To prepare

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I want to see done extra-galactic invasion in halo. Like the yuzang vong in Star Wars Legends

gilded mason
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At the moment, a bit too escalated.

clear beacon
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This begs the question of, why did all precursors dismantle themselves, if the Forerunners were only in TMW.

gilded mason
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We're still only in the Orion Arm, after all

clever kernel
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I don’t even know what the precursors look like

clear beacon
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If apparently the flood are in other Galaxies too.

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The Primordial is the closest thing, I believe.

clever kernel
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Ahhh that’s his name

gilded mason
clever kernel
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Like the leviathan or harvester thing that i saw in a metal ball studios video of the halo universe stuff to scale

clever kernel
clear beacon
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They're also omniscient beings that transcend our interpretations of the universe, they're able to interact with the galaxy in ways that we cant even comprehend.

clever kernel
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Yeah like that. Sounds really cool as a faction exploration type thing to explore

clear beacon
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yo btw why was the Didact kept on Earth?

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The Librarian be buggin

clever kernel
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I wish precursors ruins weren’t all biological. Then 343 could make some crazy landscapes and tech like

clear beacon
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I don't believe they were.

clever kernel
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Because faber imprisoned him there

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Didact has been in a cryptum multiple times

clever kernel
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Star roads would be so cool

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To play on

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In game

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Precursor stuff in general. Like there was a whole attack and war against them. And the prehistoric human-forerunner conflict is so interesting

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I wish there was more art and stuff of it. (Sorry I’m kind of ranting and fanboy-ing about halo 4 lore)

humble yacht
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when the Flood vs Forerunner War first began, the Forerunners managed to drive the flood out of the galaxy for a period of time.

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it's possible during that time, the flood spread to other galaxies before coming back to the Milky Way

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i guess technically the flood allowed themselves to be driven out to trick the forerunners

tame belfry
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Guys, what species is the Halo 3 rat?

ivory crow
versed helm
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is far'ting part of the lore?

ivory crow
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Chief’s got gas

paper stirrup
pallid tide
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What is a common rich person food in halo lore

spiral jewel
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Dumb question: do the Olympics still exist in the 2500s?

versed helm
terse lava
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@humble yacht pretty sure it was the ancient humans, not the Forerunners, who drove the Flood out. The Forerunners just managed to keep them contained to 12 systems for 300 years upon their return. Everything went downhill in the last decade

gilded mason
terse lava
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Yeah, but from everyone else's POV, thr humans did it. Now that I think k about it, been a decade now, and we still don't know what that First Prophet had in regards to the "flood cure."

gilded mason
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Rub windex on them

terse lava
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Nah, Oxi-clean pitched by Billy Mays

gilded mason
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based billy

humble yacht
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halopedia says the flood stayed away for 9000 years

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and that a combined effort of forerunners, humans, and prophets drove back the first wave

limpid meadow
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It's closer to 10,000 years. Halopedia is a little out of date on that front.

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The Forerunner efforts didn't really figure into the Flood's retreat. They simply did so to prevent the Forerunners from wiping out Humanity.

humble yacht
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well, whatever the reason, they disappeared for almost 10k years and then surprise returned later

mortal temple
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how many years or hours or whatever are halo reach and ce apart?

gilded mason
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A few weeks

mortal temple
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the first mission of ce is on the ship that took of in the last mission of reach right?

gilded mason
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Yeah

mortal temple
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pillar of authumn or something

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ok thanks

gilded mason
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Aug 30: PoA escapes Reach
Sept 19: CE starts

obsidian thistle
limpid meadow
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Completely fair. I hope that didn't come off as denigrating, as that would never be my intent

versed helm
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guys, ithink that a halo 3 rat spinoff game would be super badass

obsidian thistle
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One not helped with how vague and calculating we need to get for pre-79 years

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Lol

minor sky
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I have a quick question, the description on the Halo CE map Chiron tl-34 says it was a training Facility for Spartan clones, does that come into play anywhere in lore? Like I know the spartan II's had flash clones made of them, but I really doubt they were what was being referred to. Anyways just wondering

gilded mason
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Nah, just early game oddness

elder peak
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do elites have race issues

gilded mason
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Not that we've seen.

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There are brown and blue ones, too

vernal eagle
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how dangerous do have you to be a Spartan Headhunter cause im thinking able to fight off 5 hunters, 30 brutes, 90 jackals, 60 elites, 150 grunts, 6 banshees and 2 drop ships with only an assault rifle and a plasma pistol

unique rune
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You can be as “dangerous” as you want but it won’t mean anything if you don’t survive enough missions to qualify for the Headhunter program.

minor sky
versed helm
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The bone composition of a Spartan is altered, right? Would it not alter the genesis of cells as a result?

humble yacht
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Never seemed to be a problem for wolverine smirkle

main rivet
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Presumably they weren't actually altering the living portion of the bone, otherwise that'd have led to osteonecrosis, though given what we know of the procedure I'm not entirely sure how it squares with kids who are still growing.

humble yacht
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What they did was inject them with growth hormones first, then after the growth was done, applied the bone grafts

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This prevented bone growth from messing with the augmentation

ashen rivet
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Do a normal human can use a gravity hammer like in odst?

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Or it just was gameplay mechanics?

versed helm
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the halo lore is like 20x more complex and difficult than the FNaF lore, still the FNaF lore has way more theorists and stuff

stable flower
ashen rivet
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ah okay

unique rune
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Heck, a good chunk of it pretty much just amounts to “aliens shot at humans, humans shot back at the aliens, aliens burn humanity from orbit with shipborne plasma weapons”.

grave swift
harsh vigil
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Just read the books and you’ll be chilling

unique rune
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Pretty much. Brands like FNAF are kinda reliant on making things seem complicated and intertwined in a "coincidence? I think not!" sort of way, whereas Halo's lore generally just... isn't. It leaves some things open ended for speculation and/or later work to build on but it's largely still pretty up front about what's going on and why it's happening.

versed helm
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Hello Neighbor Lore 😳

terse lava
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Hi?

feral scroll
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Why did Doctor Sarley not stop the detonation in the Forerunner complex during the forerunner-human war just before the flood invaded forerunner space?

terse lava
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Who are you speaking of? Dr. Sarley?

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I assume you mean Dr. Halsey during the human-Covenant war during her time on Reach with thr Spartans, yes?

eternal bolt
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@feral scroll Who is this Dr. Sarley you speak of? He sounds very interesting...

gray python
gray python
feral scroll
terse lava
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Thought so, all good. Though the forerunner complex destruction was from Reach, and it was done to prevent thr Covenant from gaining anything

gray python
terse lava
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Dude, the troll thing isn't working

gray python
feral scroll
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wait what? who is dr sarley? i thought it was halsey

terse lava
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Hes trolling

feral scroll
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i thought i just got the name wrong but its a real person?

feral scroll
terse lava
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Correct, no one exists in the halo verse with that name, much less a forerunner

gray python
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dr sarlieh was a very important doctor in the forerunner compound who made very important innovations for the nuance

eternal bolt
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wait what is the nuance?

feral scroll
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where/what is the forerunner compound ?

terse lava
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He's making it up

eternal bolt
feral scroll
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so dr sarley wasnt in the nuance? or the nuance doesnt exist?

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i havent played most of the games or read any of the books

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im just not trying to get into halo lore because i started with halo 4 LOL

terse lava
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Nothing of what he said exists, besides the Forerunner complex itself shown in Halo: First Strike, and Halo: Reach

eternal bolt
errant kestrel
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hi im playing the halo series for the first time to prepare for infinite! I'm still a bit confused as to what the difference is between the various spartan classes. If its not much to ask could someone clear this up for me?

gray python
eternal bolt
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oh ok

fair hazel
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Stop making stuff up @gray python

terse lava
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Thank you

eternal bolt
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I'm still confused as to what the nuance is i looked it up and only a few very weird things came up

versed helm
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Chief is a woman 😳😳😳😱😱😱

gray python
# errant kestrel hi im playing the halo series for the first time to prepare for infinite! I'm st...

The first major effort to create augmented supersoldiers was the ORION Project, later retroactively dubbed "SPARTAN-I", which used operatives drafted from the UNSC. The subsequent programs, SPARTAN-II and SPARTAN-III, were highly successful, but also controversial because of their dubious ethics concerning the use children as candidates, particularly in the Spartan-II program where risk of injury or death in the augmentation procedures was relatively high. The latest installment, SPARTAN-IV, returned to the idea's roots by using consenting adult volunteers primarily drawn from the various special forces units of the UNSC. While formerly serving within the various conventional military branches of the UNSC (mainly the Navy), the Spartans were brought under a single organization with the formation of the military branch known as Spartan Operations to accommodate the growing number of Spartans in the fourth-generation program following the end of the Human-Covenant War.[3]

versed helm
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Ah yes
Wikipedia

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[4]

gray python
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spartan 5s were literally robots wearing exoskeleton suits

terse lava
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There is no spartan 5

versed helm
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S5s????

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wut

terse lava
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Good try though

versed helm
errant kestrel
gray python
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yeah, one of them helped stop the invasion on the ark

versed helm
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There’s SII-SIII-SIV

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No Spartan 5s

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They don’t exist

gray python
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not anymore

terse lava
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As I said before, he's just making stuff up

gray python
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they were destroyed after the events of halo wars 2

versed helm
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They never did from the start

errant kestrel
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what is halo wars? is it worth playing?

versed helm
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Spartan 4s didn’t exist in halo wars 2

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Or I’m just stupid

terse lava
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I would say yes, Halo Wars was an enjoyable game

errant kestrel
versed helm
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I like the cutscenes

terse lava
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@versed helm they didn't, only three spartan II

versed helm
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I thought so

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Because of Red team

gray python
terse lava
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Halo wars takes place in 2531, 20 years before Halo:Combat Evolved

errant kestrel
versed helm
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Halo 3 rat doesn’t approve

errant kestrel
gray python
versed helm
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The time span was so far off

terse lava
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Halo wars 2, however, takes place shortly after halo 5, so about 2559

errant kestrel
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is halo 5 worth playing?

versed helm
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Btw @gray python looks like Jim from the Office

eternal bolt
versed helm
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Yes

gray python
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halo 5 was fun if you use skulls

versed helm
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Comp, Quick play, Customs

terse lava
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Personally, I wasn't fond of halo 5.

versed helm
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I don’t really play campaign on any halos

eternal bolt
versed helm
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Oh

terse lava
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The story is a bit of a mess campaign wise

versed helm
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I enjoyed the campaign

gray python
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halo IV was really fun

errant kestrel
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oh

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thats a shame

terse lava
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It's personal opinion though

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So who knows, maybe you'd like it

versed helm
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It’s fun and I made memories with friends so I enjoyed it

errant kestrel
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without spoiling anything what made it a mess in your opinion?

gray python
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the scarab gun was very fun to use

eternal bolt
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the teamate AI is absolutely broken, enemy AI is hit scan, the story is all over the place, i dont know what they were thinking about cortana, but thats just my opinion

terse lava
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It....conflicted with a plot point in halo 4

gray python
terse lava
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Rather major one

versed helm
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I played the first part so I can yeet the elite and that’s all

gray python
versed helm
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I just don’t play campaign unless I first buy the game

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Campaign is just boring for me

eternal bolt
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Not trying to be rude but why are you in lore and universe if you dont play the campaign

gray python
versed helm
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I don’t know

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Just seeing what’s up

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Bored

terse lava
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Nothing wrong with that

gray python
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halo H3 was my favorite

terse lava
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Find it better in here compared to the other servers

errant kestrel
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i really liked reach it was fun to play knowing i was losing the overall battle throughout the game.

eternal bolt
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reach has my favorite campaign

terse lava
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Liked halo 2 myself, the Arbiter's story and character build was enjoyable

errant kestrel
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im on halo 2 right now

stable flower
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I like the fact that the Commando is a CMA weapon. I like hearing about the CMA.

eternal bolt
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Halo 2s story is the most solid

gray python
eternal bolt
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but I liked reach for the atmosphere and music and tone

errant kestrel
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im really glad i started to play the series its lots of fun, solid lore too

terse lava
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Only in 3, which sucked, shame be didn't get any missions of his own

gray python
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i really liked 343 guilty shark

versed helm
gray python
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he was funny

eternal bolt
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I absolutely adore halo 3 but the story was a disapointment for me

terse lava
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The lore is pretty good, though the ancient t stuff can get confusing

versed helm
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Halo 3 was fun for a little bit

eternal bolt
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They kind of ruined the prophet of truth

stable flower
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I was expecting it to be 20 levels long

eternal bolt
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for me at least and the arbiter doesn't get much screen time

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even though he is objectively a better character than chief

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because he is actually a character

terse lava
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Mhm, but I would say thats more due to they couldn't get his original VA

versed helm
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More Monké
More Halo 3 Rat
More Arby
More Easter Eggs

gray python
versed helm
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I am

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All of which are in lore and in game

gray python
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i dont remember a monkey in halo
official coo l guy message

versed helm
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Brute=Monkey

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Craig=Godly Monké

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Halo 3 rat is in the missions where you’re in the base underground
Arby was in first cutscene
Easter eggs like the skulls to get Hyabusa

waxen pagoda
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Halo 3 missing link is kind of a monkey

versed helm
earnest horizon
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also to that extent arbiters missions were kinda bad (cept heretic and flood mission)….chief had better missions but some were still dogwater and halo 2 had a pretty bad ending….the only problem i have with 3s story is truth since he is pretty much a glorified ruler but thats what happens when you submit your faction to a civil war that leaves both sides devastated

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in fact the only reason humanity even won was for the civil war and arbiter telling rtas not to glass the planet

sinful tartan
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Sandtrap has been a topic of conversation for years. So I was splitting the map apart and creating a detailed analyzation, including lore and anything we can find.

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"At some point, likely during the Battle of Installation 00, the area came under the occupation of the Jiralhanae, who fortified the site with landmines and at least one Type-52 Phantom"

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Apparently Pre-Banished forces occupied this location due to it's significance, I remember this being in the description of the map but it totally slipped my mind until now

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The defenses are completely down forerunner wise, the mines are brutes after the fact

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"UNSC Aegis Fate took control of the area, utilizing D96-TCE Albatross 03 and two M313 Elephants"

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but after Halo Wars 2, a lot could have changed

tacit charm
obsidian thistle
sinful tartan
obsidian thistle
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The Albatross in Halo 3 is a full model. Part of it is burried under the sand so you never see some textures Bungie put on it!

gloomy canyon
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that’s sick

unique rune
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I always have trouble wrapping my head around the Albatross being a dropship because it’s so strangely shaped.

wispy wasp
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Doesn't the h2/2a map have an albatross in it?

unique rune
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Yes, Relic and its Anniversary remake Remnant both have a crashed Albatross present.

waxen pagoda
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When are we getting a drivable Albatross in a game?

halcyon maple
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Maybe in Halo Infinite campaign? 🤞 They've said its gonna be a 10 year game

green tendon
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i was going around the halopedia, and i cant understand very well what the "greater ark" is

humble yacht
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It was a second ark, 100,000 years ago, larger than the ark in H3

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It was destroyed

halcyon maple
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How did all the older rings disappear? I know the one in Infinite is supposed to be from that batch, but I heard all the others from it are gone

gilded mason
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They were destroyed by the Flood

halcyon maple
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Ah, that makes sense

green tendon
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i heard the normal ark is like this size of jupiter

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so imagine the greater ark

frigid tiger
green tendon
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diameter yeah

frigid tiger
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Bungie really loved it to make things big

tacit charm
halcyon maple
humble yacht
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Best to look it up halopedia, it’s not easy to explain off the top of the head

minor sky
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Is Yap Yap canon?

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Or is he just part of a joke scenario

humble yacht
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both

umbral linden
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atriox is a cool villain

noble fjord
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Why was Carter the leader of Noble Team instead of Jorge?

humble yacht
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rank

gilded mason
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Probably had better leadership skills.

noble fjord
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How many Spartan II's were left by the time of reach? I've been looking back into the story of Reach and trying to figure out if the loss was due to the overwhelming covenant offensive or a gross misallocation of UNSC Resources

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(although the answer so far looks like "both")

sinful tartan
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Extinction by Greenknight and Rejected Shotgun

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if you are still curious

unique rune
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And then Red Team had been MIA for twenty years by that point.

west rune
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operation red flag was a epic fail

versed helm
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Even if it did work it'd fail

terse lava
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To be fair, no one knew the Covenant had a mobile capital. Even Whitcomb commented how he hoped a NOVA would be taken back to the "Covenant homeworld."

unique rune
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Yeah, RED FLAG is obviously flawed from our perspective as outside observers, since we know all of this stuff about the Covenant, but the UNSC was operating off of incomplete knowledge.

fair hazel
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Well they did know about high charity

wispy wasp
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didn't they only have theory that the prophets even existed?

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they would've never known how power hungry they were

stable flower
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I wonder if the third Infinity-class supercarrier would be named Perpetuity

unique rune
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Given the UNSC’s amusing disregard for any kind of ship naming conventions, I’m sure it’d be a curveball and end up named after poetry or other art like the Forward Unto Dawn or something silly like the Two For Flinching or Say My Name.

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Meanwhile the UNSC Swift Justice’s name sounds more like something you’d find on a Covenant ship.

tacit charm
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would be cool if its named UNSC Family

minor sky
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What happened to Brian Reed after he left 343i?

torpid lily
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in the first level of halo reach are the civilians speaking an actual language or just gibberish

wispy wasp
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It's Hungarian

main rivet
hybrid ermine
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Anyone know how chief got his GEN 2 armor in halo 4? I heard its from nanomachine but that technology said its from Mjolnir mark 7 and chief has mark 6

humble yacht
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It’s not GEN2 in halo 4. It’s still gen1

hybrid ermine
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So halo 5 is GEN 2?

humble yacht
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Yes

south matrix
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This is slightly off topic

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But what if Rwby's World of Remnant ever clashed with Halo's Universe

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What would be like using promethain weapons against Grim

fair hazel
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There isn’t an indication that nanomachines are exclusive to mark VII

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Besides, the mark IV has extensive repair nodes and nanobots for that

humble yacht
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The mark vii was the first model to have onboard nanobots

versed helm
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How did Johnson get off the halo ring in CE

gilded mason
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Pelican

humble yacht
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He found a pelican with some other survivors

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Then Chief picked him up

versed helm
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Yeah but when the autumn blew up he was in the middle of nowhere

humble yacht
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It’s all in Halo First Strike

gilded mason
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That wasn't canon

versed helm
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Oh

humble yacht
gilded mason
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It was just a funny little scene

versed helm
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I know

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He just hugged his buddy

fair hazel
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It’s just the first mention real world speaking

humble yacht
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There’s no reason to think previous models had onboard nanomachines

versed helm
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Ok ok, new question. Where the f is Jun. Where did he go after reach

humble yacht
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Jun recruits new Spartans

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He runs Spartan Branch with Musa

versed helm
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Oh cool

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Ok here is an important question

gilded mason
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None

humble yacht
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😐

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That’s not a lore question

gilded mason
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Also, isn't lore/universe related

humble yacht
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Let’s keep it on topic and constructive

versed helm
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Ok then

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Sorry just wanted to hear thoughts and opinions on the matter

fair hazel
humble yacht
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She used nanobots in the cryopod

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That’s different from them being in the suit itself

fair hazel
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There’s no indication of nanobots in cryo pod

humble yacht
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Glasslands specifically mentions that the mark vii can repair itself without outside influence, such as a cryopod

fair hazel
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No it says the suit upgrades itself in cryo. As per her nanobots basically

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It doesn’t say again it’s the first one to do so

humble yacht
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You got the book right? How about you copy paste the relevant text from page 213 and we can all draw our own conclusions

fair hazel
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Ebook

humble yacht
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Ebooks still have pages

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The also have search functions so it’s even easier

fair hazel
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Pages are relative

humble yacht
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And that nano tech is not mentioned to be an innate aspect of previous models

fair hazel
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It isn’t not mentioned to be exclusive

humble yacht
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Typically you don’t go out of your way to mention something like that unless it’s notable

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Well we can agree to disagree then

unique rune
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I mean it doesn’t ever note why it does it in cryo either

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Maybe the nanomachines are in the pod, but for all we know it could just be cryo provides a convenient lull to do that kind of thing

fair hazel
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It would probably take some time

humble yacht
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Probably because that’s the best time for repairs to be done

fair hazel
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So yeah the pause

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But why would they include nanobots in cryo pods in general? Like

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Standard

humble yacht
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Maybe nanobots are extra sensitive to temperature

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Canon fodder also mentions that the nanotechnology integration in gen1 mark vii was still in prototype phase, which gives further credit to mark vii being the first native integration of nanotechnology to the Mjolnir suit itself

fair hazel
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Auto-repair and bypass nodes: Any damage that the titanium armor plating suffers can be repaired by built-in, triply-redundant subsystems. These systems are receptive to nanomachines facilitating the repair.[15] Additionally, bypass channels allow certain components to function if routing is compromised by extensive damage. Both these systems can fail, resulting in "scarred" armor plating.[41]

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Halopedia for mark VI

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The scared mark vi talks about the ripely redundant auto repair and bypass nodes

humble yacht
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“Systems receptive to nanomachines” sounds like the nanobots aren’t there to start

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Just that the armor is compatible with nanomachines

limpid meadow
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^^^

fair hazel
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But a smart AI like Cortana could use those repair nodes in ways they couldn’t typically on their own

humble yacht
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Canon fodder for mark vii gen3 also says that the nanomachine components were originally tested by Noami

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Suggesting that those components were not featured in previous marks

fair hazel
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Opposite is all cryo pods somehow equipped with nano pods when they’re used to store naked or cryo suit human beings typically

humble yacht
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Yes cortana could use the repair systems in special ways but that doesn’t mean the suit had its own nanobots

fair hazel
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Nanotech on mark VI being less advanced than the mark VII type

humble yacht
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Or not there at all

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And just compatible with external nanotechnology

fair hazel
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And where did Cortana get that? John just went into a cryo pod and Cortana got bored

humble yacht
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Given the available info I think it’s more likely that the cryopod had its own nanobots than the suit

fair hazel
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Using primitive nanotech repair nodes stuff, like the scared Armour suggests, seems the most plausible answer

humble yacht
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To you

fair hazel
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It doesn’t make sense for cryo pods to have a bunch of nanobots just there in case … someone with armour gets in? In an edge case when cryo pods aren’t designed with people in armour ?

humble yacht
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Who says nanobots couldn’t be used for medial applications?

fair hazel
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Medical bay

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@obsidian thistle what are your thoughts

noble fjord
versed helm
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Even though I don't trust the Sangheili, especially after they've massacred billions of humans, I still can't help but feel sorry for them since they were lied to and manipulated for centuries

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Fal Chavamee, Ussa Xellus, and Sesa Refumee all saw through the lies of the Covenant

void oar
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Omg was that halo canon?

languid tundra
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Were the IIIs the weakest generation? Im saying this because their augmentations are really only done via IV flushes and gene therapy instead of the extensive open operations that the IVs and IIs had, if the augmentations were done via a syringe or IV bag then that's not a lot of augmentations, more along the lines of heavy gene therapy

gilded mason
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IIIs also underwent surgeries, just not as much

languid tundra
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Oh

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I'd like to have been a 3

I don't do so well with the possibility of that many surgeries so the IIIs seem like where I'd belong

west rune
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same and at least for the 3s they asked some of them even though they were young but thats better than being kidnapped and forced to be a solider

stable flower
humble yacht
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luring a kid into a van with candy is still kidnapping

tiny olive
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Hi everyone, I finished Halo 3 ODST earlier today and was wondering how it fits into the Halo lore. The game was pretty fun, but am a bit confused.

humble yacht
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odst takes place between h2 and h3

gilded mason
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To expand, it takes place right after the H2 level "Metropolis"

minor sky
stable flower
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Shot in the dark but I take it the Commando is used by the Venezian Militia as they use many old CMA weapons.

viscid trout
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Yeah, let's be real here. The spartan 3 program was still quite scummy considering that even though they were offered....it wasn't really much of a choice still.

humble yacht
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children cannot provide informed consent

main yoke
viscid trout
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Especially when they've been recently orphaned and rendered homeless due to alien invasion

lavish scaffold
main rivet
unique rune
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If I recall correctly he did have a Twitter account, but he shut it down after receiving some... rather undue harassment.

humble yacht
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this is not really a topic for this channel

terse lava
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Hm, I wonder how things would ha e turned out for the Forerunners, had they simply quarantined humanity like they did the San'Shyuum

ripe steeple
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UNSC weapon designers be like : make it shoot the biggest caliber possible for the weapons intended role

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Use them on other humans

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Big bullets come in handy when fighting covies

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Lol

stable flower
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I wonder if the 9mm cartridge still exists in Halo

modest compass
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I'm not sure if it does, but the Sidekick is 10mm

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It says so on the side of the gun itself

torpid lily
bronze schooner
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So in the mission ‘Long Night of Solace” at the very end, Jeorge asks Six to go to his location first because he didn’t want to tell the Air Force personnel that they weren’t going home

peak forge
#

Gosh darn it do I love Chips

old vapor
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Yo quick lore question for Halo

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Whats the one big military company in halo

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that isnt Oni

unique rune
bronze schooner
unique rune
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen them in the background. And even if that is the case, the scene is presented in a way that would make them hard to see.
Given 052’s actions I think it’s pretty safe to say the intention is for B312 to be the only survivor of Operation: UPPER CUT.

ripe steeple
stable flower
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ONI's not a company it's an agency

lavish scaffold
signal osprey
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Si

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Jajaja que le pasaba

peak forge
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I am quite liking Halo 4 so far, the campaign seems pretty good

languid tundra
worldly crystal
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Ohhhh... I thought that was just a rvb thing

severe gust
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How is genesis an instillation?

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Aren’t only rings and shield worlds installations

languid tundra
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maybe installation means something different in forerunner society

unique rune
worldly crystal
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:o

unique rune
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How is genesis an instillation?
Aren’t only rings and shield worlds installations
Well, Genesis is a shield world, so.

But also “Installation” doesn’t just refer to Halo rings and shield worlds. It’s just how Forerunners designated facilities as part of a larger network.

worldly crystal
unique rune
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Uh. I don’t believe so.

worldly crystal
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I could've sworn it was

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Maybe not reach... But I swear I've heard it

unique rune
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Well, I mean, freelancer is an actual term, not just something RvB made up. Generally refers to an individual who operates independently.

worldly crystal
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I know what freelancer means

unique rune
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So if it is mentioned in Reach, it’s not in reference to the RvB program.

worldly crystal
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Oh, ok

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That makes sense

limpid meadow
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Maybe you're thinking of the radio conversations from Reach? They mention extra Spartans out doing stuff elsewhere, but not Freelancers.

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RvB isn't canon to the Halo universe.

worldly crystal
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I know that, they follow their own story line

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Although the events from CE are mentioned in S1

valid hemlock
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Ayo, in the h3 odst final cutscene there is the scene with Truth that i didn't understand, did he find the ark or the huragokks, or even other thing??

terse lava
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The ark portal

valid hemlock
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Oh, ok

bright gulch
lime salmon
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Huh????

timid skiff
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hey guys, what is the average height of an ancient human and that of a spartan?

humble yacht
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I’d have to go to halopedia for that

errant kestrel
obsidian thistle
fair hazel
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@obsidian thistle Did you get all that halo infinite map and customization preview lore goodness?

obsidian thistle
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Been prepping pages and a needler rehaul

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So yup

blissful bloom
fair hazel
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The different manufacturers and even medigel kits is so exciting

severe gust
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Is the halo 3 rat a precursor

stable flower
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So what gives Sentinels their weakness towards plasma?

humble yacht
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Plasma is just good against metal

versed helm
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Also, the fact that plasma pistol has EMP and Sentinels are machines

bronze schooner
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They are 2 shot from a carbine

bright spear
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Covenant weapons are also often reverse-engineered from forerunner tech to begin with so in a roundabout way they're weak because it was designed to fight that level of tech

unique zenith
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does anyone know then a spartan 3 brain will be fully developed. the average human brane is fully developed at around 25 years old. i would think the augmentations would stop the brain from maturing until later but does anyone know when? please mention me or dm me with the answer if you know it. thanks.

terse lava
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I dont recall anything stating that their augmentation and other mutations would stop a Spartan III's mental growth. @unique zenith

west rune
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didnt they have some mental difficulties like having to use meds sometimes like it was mentioned in glasslands

gilded mason
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Gamma company was given a drug that would make them more aggressive if they aren't given a counter-drug every-so-often

west rune
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oh ok

terse lava
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Thats about it though, nothing on stopping their mental or physical development

bronze schooner
gilded mason
terse lava
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Hm, juat realized I wonder why they went from beta, straight to gamma company

gilded mason
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Gamma is 3, Ado.

terse lava
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Yeah I know, but usually you see these kind of things go, alpha, beta, charlie, delta, etc..

unique rune
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If the second company had been called Bravo Company, I’d agree, but for whatever reason they went with the Greek alphabet instead of NATO phonetic.

humble yacht
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They were using the Greek alphabet order, not nato order

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Oh someone said that already

minor sky
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||Reading Shadows of Reach and I really like the line when the Leader of the Pioneer militia says "the UNSC sent their best" and Chief responds saying "theres a difference between best known and best"||

fair hazel
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I like that line

minor sky
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It reminds me of that one line in the Believe ads where the soldier recounts Chief telling him "that no soldier should be elevated above anyone else for doing what they are expected"

errant kestrel
minor sky
#

Was looking through Halopedia, I find the fact that this Vehcile is kinda/sorta/maybe canon a little funny. I mean look at it

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Though the idea of a Walker that drops down like an ODST Drop Pod does sound kinda dope

obsidian thistle
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@minor sky lil do ya know. I have plans to make a Chicken Walker page.

Not saying its canon. But it haz a name. XD

IMG_20210629_172522-1.jpg
minor sky
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I had no idea this existed until now, but this is now automatically the best Vehicle in not just the franchise, but all of human fiction

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The only two of the Reap-x Vechiles that look normal to me are the Siege bike and the Turraco, but the Turraco isn't a Mega Construx thing only so that probably why I think that, also I just kinda like the Seige bike's design, ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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The Kestrel is the only one to show up in a game but like, idk, something about its design doesn't look right to me

main rivet
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I think you can treat the MegaBloks stuff like all the wacky armor permutations. Realistically it doesn't make any sense all those armor SKUs would ever hit mass production, they're probably type specimens or one-offs.

versed helm
obsidian thistle
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I find obscure stuff

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Wiki is my game, and obscure stuff is my gain!

languid tundra
worldly crystal
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What?

languid tundra
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i told you red vs blue was halo canon
you fell victim to one of the classic blunders

worldly crystal
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You sound like someone in my class

languid tundra
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maybe i am

worldly crystal
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:o

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Is there someone in your class that everyone calls god?

languid tundra
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im kidding

carmine sleet
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Did I really miss a conversation about why Red Vs Blue isn't canon? Shame, I have a whole thing I'm working on that uses evidence to explain why they aren't

valid hemlock
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I mean, main reason is being made by rooster teeth instead of bungie/microsoft, and there isn't so much need to be included in the cannon

terse lava
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Plus the whole species of aliens of not-sangheili like Jr. existing

minor sky
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LIES! ALL OF IT LIES!

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Anyways, just wanted to say that I much prefer this design for the Guardian

ripe steeple
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RvB is cannon

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I don’t want to live in a world where it isn’t

fair hazel
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Then go to Mars I guess

orchid prism
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What will we find on Mars?

ripe steeple
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Jokes on you guys, doc and Lopez will annihilate the banished and bring about peace

versed helm
bronze schooner
orchid prism
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@bronze schooner i see

versed helm
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343 said there’s a new AI to customize I’m gonna name mine Siri so when I’m fighting the banish I’m gonna scream at my AI saying Siri I’m dying call me a combat medic team the AI reply’s ok I’ll call you a combat medic team ok 🙂

ripe steeple
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Then Doc shows up

ripe steeple
versed helm
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you know how the US Navy uses Popeye as a sailor symbol would that symbol still be around some UNSC ships as a naval icon to boost morale

versed helm
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The Anodyne Spirit is the Keyship Truth uses yes?

versed helm
minor sky
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I just realised that we can't see a Flood infected Scarab because Hunters are immune to the flood (please correct me if any aspect of lore is inncorect)

humble yacht
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you are incorrect about that aspect of lore

tepid ledge
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@crystal olive you got mad at the infinite spoiler of master chief dying to arbiters bb

obsidian thistle
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Hey rare request for some of the more obscure fiction fans.

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Does anyone remember a source from a few years back regarding the D78 pelican and how it uses the D77 chassis?

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Or am I misremembering the Waypoint source?

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Where it says this in regards to the D79. "Starting 2557, the D79 began to replace aging D77 airframes."

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(Halopedia in this case is not useful lol hence me asking)

unique rune
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I always figured that was something from the Waypoint page but I guess I was also misremembering that.

fair hazel
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Maybe confused woth the condor?

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D80: Original Condor - model built on the D77C Pelican body. It's slipspace drive capabilities were limited, with transit times roughly double that of larger, more efficient, systems in use at the time.

minor sky
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Aren't Condors just Pelicans but a bit larger?

unique rune
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Sort of but not exactly.

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They're built on an extended version of a Pelican airframe and share most of their components but they fill different roles.

versed helm
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I got myself a copy of Halo Warfleet

blissful matrix
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found a code in new mombasa map on a sticky note wall in a bar

versed helm
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Condors can go into slipspace

minor sky
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I like how Traxis is still actively referenced in the games after bungie left, just a final remnant of Marathon stuff in Halo Lore (Traxis IV was the name of an A.I. in Marathon lore who was the first to fall into rampancy)

delicate notch
minor sky
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Yeah

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I headcannoned that in Marathon lore Traxis IV was a company A.I., with the "IV" in their name meaning they are like a certain model or variant, who would of ran systems, which would give them access to a bunch of tech, which would let them cause havoc on Mars,

ivory crow
#

So I feel like a dope, but while playing through Halo 2 to finish up achievements it finally clicked that the AI Cortana was fighting with on High Charity was Mendicant Bias. I had to look it up to make sure but now think that’s a really cool detail.

main rivet
#

I don't think we've ever gotten an indication if that was the plan originally or it was just a stray line to explain the tempo of the mission they backfilled later.

minor sky
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I wish 343 got to see their original vision for the third chapter in the Reclamer Saga come to fruition

wispy wasp
#

is the BR in infinite an older model of the gun?

minor sky
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Yes

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Iirc its a newer model then what we saw in 2 and 3 but it is not as new as what we saw in Halo 4 and 5

wispy wasp
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yeah, it's like the br85 in 4 and 5

minor sky
wispy wasp
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so would it just the BR, commando and spnkr that would be older weapons at the time of infinite

minor sky
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That we know of

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Isn't the AR an older model as well?

wispy wasp
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it isn't a part of the ma5 series, it's a part of the ma series

unique rune
wispy wasp
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yeah that's what i thought, can this be seen as the unsc not being in the greatest shape at the time?

minor sky
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Yeah probably, given they are (arguably) more screwed then at the hight of the human-covenant war, it would make sense for them to use older weapons as they can't manufacture new stuff as easily

wispy wasp
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oh, i didn't think they were worse off than at the height of the Human-covenant war, though i guess it makes sense since i don't think they even have control of earth anymore

unique rune
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Kinda depends on your perspective, really. Humanity isn’t under immediate threat of extinction like they were against the Covenant but the Created uprising hasn’t exactly put them in a good position either.

minor sky
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Yeah the Created have control over a bunch of tech humanity depends on and have fleets of Guardians policing systems, but their goal isn't just "kill humanity"

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Also speaking of which

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Does it feel like a bit of a strech that the Guardians can police an entire system?

boreal breach
#

In a matter of seconds, they can take down the electrical systems for an entire planet. Assuming that there is some system where every planet is livable and fully inhabited (going off of the number of planets in Sol) then it would take them like 4 minutes to do that (maybe longer, I don't know how long it would take to slipspace that short of a distance)

terse lava
#

On the bright side, at least it appears they don't have Custodians, those were used to patrol Forerunner systems, unlike the guardians

stable flower
#

So Guardian Sentinels and Guardian Custodes are two separate constructs

unborn thicket
#

The Guardian Sentinel is the version we see as a hologram in Halo 3’s Epitaph

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So yeah two separate versions

atomic marsh
#

What's the Halo trilogy's timeline?

carmine sleet
carmine sleet
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Basically it all happens in 3 months

ivory stump
#

So Halo games in choronological order: Reach, Fireteam Raven, Combat Evolved, 2, 3 ODST, 3

humble yacht
#

Fireteam Raven happens concurrent with CE

languid tundra
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I think the 'discover hope' cinematic is the most in-depth look we've had at a pelican's cockpit

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i'd pay good money to get a pelican flight manual from 343

obsidian thistle
versed helm
limpid meadow
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People have different tastes, simple as that. For my part, I find the hate towards the 343 Pelican to be overblown, even if it's not my favorite design.

unique rune
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I still wonder where the claims of D79 series Pelicans not realistically being capable of flight originated

main rivet
#

My complaint with the 343 Pelican is the dual bubble cockpits just make it look like a Soviet helicopter, and from a practical standpoint they feel less like troop carriers. They make much more sense as the gunships you use them as in Shutdown (although it still bums me out we've never gotten a Pelican mission where you actually ferry troops around.)

obsidian thistle
limpid meadow
limpid meadow
unique rune
limpid meadow
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Sadly, yeah.

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People have this warped view of the D79 as being this massive, bulky beast when it's basically the same size as the D77. The changes made to it don't make it any more or less aerodynamic.

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It's weird to think that some people believe the D79 couldn't fly to save its life while, seemingly at least, believing the D77 is an aerodynamic masterpiece.

languid tundra
humble yacht
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:/

carmine sleet
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I wouldn't mind seeing an expert doing an analysis of both the Bungie and 343i era designs and actually putting to rest whether they would be capable of flying or not

languid tundra
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i wonder what an expert would think of the broadsword

unique rune
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I think there’s definitely some elements of the D79 that make it appear a little more ungainly in comparison to the D77 in spite of how they’re largely similar, so if someone were to claim it can’t realistically fly the logical jump isn’t that far. But at the same time, I think a lot of it is just that you don’t really ever get a feel for just how honking big the D77 is in Bungie’s games. Most of the time you end up with really close-up views without the Chief as a point of reference so you’re never really able to just stop and think “holy crap this thing is big”.

carmine sleet
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Aye, people love to forget Chief is taller than most humans

viscid trout
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Odd thing to think. Given how often in the og trilogy those things crashed.

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Amd got shot down.

carmine sleet
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You know, now that I think about it, how many times did we see the D79s get shot down?

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I recall one that we see getting shot down in Spartan Ops (Albeit through a hologram that Palmer and Lasky look at), then there's Palmer's in Halo 5 on Sanghelios but that was less shot down and more damaged by the Guardian, then there's the one at the end of episode 5 of Spartan Ops meant to pick up Fireteam Crimson

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But other than those, I can't think of any other time

unique rune
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Two are vaporized and one is shot down by a particle cannon in Halo 4 when Gypsy Company goes to disable the cannon network to let Infinity escape Requiem. Could also arguably count Mountain Squad’s Pelican crashed on Ragnarok?

languid tundra
#

the d79 must have been a beast

carmine sleet
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And the one on Ragnarok does count, even if we didn't see it crash

last anchor
carmine sleet
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Aye

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I feel like we shouldn't count those three because of that fact

last anchor
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I mean theres Castle Teams pelican from the opening of one of Spartan Ops's episodes

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Oh wait you got that one already

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Aside from those? Nothing lost to the kind of fire that tended to nail Bungie pelicans thats for sure.

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Lets see...
Ce we have three Pelicans crash (including Foehammer shot down by those annoying Banshees), Halo 2 we have the two crashes and one vaporization from the Scarab, plus the one in High Charity, Halo 3 we have the two at the river in Sierra-117, the one on the Ark in The Covenant, and then Chief crashign the one he somehow found inside High Charity.

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ODST has the one getting shot down by Banshees AGAIN

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Reach...Phantom at Azod, I think is about it.

unique rune
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ODST also had the NMPD Pelican downed by a pair of Banshees.
Can’t think of any others at the moment.

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Oh you mentioned that one already

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whoops

last anchor
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Lol. Yeah, its good.

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But honestly considering how succeptable transports are to anti-air fire, its not really a surprise.

carmine sleet
#

So overall that's how many for each design?

last anchor
#

Based on that, the D77 has 11 down

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The D78 has...3.

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Give or take.

carmine sleet
#

So basically more D77s shot down

last anchor
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Yes.

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I should note that for the most part, they get lost to stuff that would wack just about ANYTHING

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Or specifically intended anti-air fire

carmine sleet
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Granted we are comparing one that appeared in many more games than the other but still, that's a big difference

last anchor
#

Almost all the ones in H3 for example get wasted by Fuel Rods (the two at the river eat Banshee shots and the one on the Ark takes AAA from a Wraith)

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What would you list the Condor from Nightfall under?

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Or is that too big that its its own thing

carmine sleet
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That thing is it's own thing by vitue of not being called a Pelican

last anchor
#

Also can we list the Owl infiltration dropship as its own as well since EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE has gotten obliterated
And do we count the D77s under the writing hand of Denning?
Because Denning has wasted EVERY PELICAN he's written I think

carmine sleet
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Like it's related to the Pelican but the Condor is not a Pelican

last anchor
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Thats fair.

unique rune
#

I wonder what designation the new Pelican design for Infinite is going to have.
Thought it was kinda interesting that it has the trapezoidal control surfaces on its wings like the original CE/2 D77s.

last anchor
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Could just be the D77 again

limpid meadow
#

I'm really hoping it's the D78. I'd hate to just go back to D77s because "reasons".

orchid prism
#

Is there a D79?

unique rune
#

The D79 is the model seen in Halo 4 and 5

orchid prism
#

So is it the latest model in the series? Are there some prototypes for the next models too?

unique rune
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It’s the latest model that we know of. I don’t recall there being any prototypes for future Pelican iterations ever being mentioned, though the description for Halo 5’s Foehammer armor mentions a Project: SLEIPNIR that focuses on designing dropships meant for use by Spartans. Not necessarily Pelicans, but some kind of specialized UNSC dropship.

orchid prism
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I see, i mean i couldn't find a D80 on Halopedia, so i assumed it is the latest one. Interesting.

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@unique rune Your pfp, is that from Evangelion? Or Gundam?

unique rune
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It’s the AV-X0 from the first Patlabor movie

orchid prism
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I see, thanks.

viscid trout
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I'm pretty sure the halo infinite pelican is different fro, the d77. Feels like it's insides are at least.

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Course it's easy to say that chief used the d77 due to limited resources from the created xonflict. That would make sense.

last anchor
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I assume the D77 wasnt fully phased out of service anyway, its still a perfectly effective and useful dropship

#

With how fast Misrah seems to crank vehicles out, there's probably thousands of them kicking around.

woven plaza
#

I like how Halsey just had a secret stash of brains

#

can we just appreciate that for a moment

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Halsey: "Yo can we send blue team to reach I got some brains there"
Lasky: "They just got back, and you want to send them to Reach? Reach was glassed we have no way of knowing if anything surv-"
Halsey: "Just trust me dawg"

orchid prism
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I haven't had a good laugh until now lmao

stable flower
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The UNSC is resorting to lots of outdated tech since the start of the Created uprising

versed helm
stable flower
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Yeah that

woven plaza
atomic marsh
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When did the Spartan 4 program start?

humble yacht
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I think halopedia has a date

atomic marsh
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Ok

viscid salmon
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Pelicans exist to be shot down

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Any aircraft the Chief steps foot on is doomed.

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Not literally obviously

versed helm
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Halo

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Literally

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Stepped one crashed dropship on it and well

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It ended up in pieces

terse lava
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Just passing by one dooms the dropship( the spirit, Brilliant Gift, from 343 Guilty Spark)

unique rune
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It’s a real miracle that the pilot of Echo 216 survives the Pelican crash from the Infinite campaign demo

versed helm
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I mean he's a main character he's gonna live, for now

fair hazel
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Gen 3 definitely is not outdated tech

humble yacht
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gen3 is literally the newest tech

obsidian thistle
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Like seriously

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Its a mess thanks to Meridian Divide lol

minor sky
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Brohammer and Echo-216 have some serious plot armor

woven plaza
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meanwhile AA cannons prevent a frigate from taking out that spire from reach

fair hazel
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I think I should ask the question about Butlr

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the description states: "Based on the core logic foundations of a key ONI asset, Butlr AIs are always available, always alert, always ready to clean up a messy battlefield symbological overlay."

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A key ONI asset...

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Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

orchid prism
fair hazel
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BB?

red kite
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Can Smart AIs choose what they look like, like with a character creation screen or something like that

delicate notch
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Yep

red kite
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Huh

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That says something about Cortana

woven plaza
heavy oar
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I like the old pelican gunships with missles

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And the halo wars 2 ones are pretty cool too. OuO

bronze schooner
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I don’t like the Halo 3 Pelican much, nose is too stubby and it’s fragile as hell

north mantle
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You guys ever wonder if there are more Spartan-ll’s still alive other than the ones we already know? Like maybe ONI being ONI is just keeping them in a ice tube somewhere for safe keeping?

stable flower
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Never liked how Halo 3 Pelicans had no nose guns like Halo 2 ones

fair hazel
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I’m saying. Is Butlr made from black box somehow?

carmine sleet
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It could be possible, hopefully they'll reveal more about the personal AIs soon

carmine sleet
atomic marsh
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Is there two types of Mk 5, or is MK 5 [B] just the helmet?

humble yacht
humble yacht
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Like a prototype

atomic marsh
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Ok

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Meridian Divide was wack

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Was Mk 4 a prototype Mk 5?

humble yacht
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No

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Mark iv was just a predecessor model to mark v

atomic marsh
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Ok

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But some designs carried over from Mk 4 and b to MK 5 and mk 5 b

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Like JFO?

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At least that's what I thought

bronze stone
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Watched all the terminal videos for Halo 4 and man so much stuff i have learned about the halo universe love it!

tacit charm
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congrats, now get reading and learn about the rest of the lore chiefmini

drifting ruin
versed helm
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BB is English

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Hunt the Truth Season 2 we hear his voice

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And by the time of Infinite, he would be dead due to outliving his life span

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RIP BB

humble yacht
minor sky
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Is it still canon that no ONI A.I.s have joined the created?

light kiln
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ONI AI have joined the created since its start.

wintry igloo
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I only got a couple of books left but not sure if they are 'good' seen some mixed reviews about them :c

unique rune
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Oh wait no I misread the Halopedia page

light kiln
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ONI AI have joined the created. Sonduk, an ONI AI, announces that she stands with Cortana in Halo 5.

unique rune
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They've got an ONI weapons research AI on board.

frozen quest
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Just finished Halo wars 2 again, what's going to happen with the UNSC Spirit of Fire now? I heard a third Halo Wars got cancelled

pulsar pivot
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I forget what's the Created motives again

versed helm
versed helm
pulsar pivot
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Sounds bout Right

unique rune
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I forget what's the Created motives again
Forerunner Ecumene 2: Mantle Oppression Boogaloo

ripe steeple
pallid comet
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Noble 6 is alive. Change my mind

unique rune
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Anyone who follows a claim with “change my mind” is not actually looking to have their mind changed

pallid comet
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Point being?

humble yacht
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Also BB doesn’t have the best opinion of humans to begin with

violet notch
unique rune
# pallid comet Point being?

There’s no discussion to be had because original developer intent and current canon have been very clear on the matter for years and any further argument otherwise pretty much only ever ends one way.

violet notch
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree here. Noble 6 is dead. The need to have him be alive is just... what's a good word... immature?
Characters can die in narratives. Just because you like them, or were invested in their story, doesn't mean they have to survive.

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See: Game of Thrones

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Sometimes it's a lot more dramatic, and makes a far better narrative, when the characters actually die.
Adds weight to the story. Consequences have consequences.

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That's why I hate that they brought Cortana back in 5. It really stole some of the gravitas from her sendoff in 4.
To this day I refuse to admit that 5 Cortana is OG Cortana. And only accept her as a Rampant splinter personality that broke off at the climax of 4's finale. And the OG Cortana, the Real Cortana-proper, died at the end of 4.

limpid meadow
humble yacht
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Tbf the created is more than just cortana, tho she certainly is the face of them and the most powerful, probably

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It’s unclear to what extent the AI who join her get a power up

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At the very least they lose the threat of rampancy but can she limit how much of the domain they can access?

minor sky
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So, is Warden dead, or sealed away, or still with the created, or do we just not know?

limpid meadow
limpid meadow
humble yacht
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Cortana didn’t do anything lasting to him in H5

fair hazel
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Most of the created media tends to be at the rise of the created or distant away from them

versed helm
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Life expectancy of a brute?

humble yacht
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About the same as a human

versed helm
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Aight

brazen grail
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Sounds about right. They don't live nearly as long as Elites.

versed helm
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Don't elites live up to 300 years

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Crazy

brazen grail
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I don't know. But they live for a while for sure

versed helm
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A while

brazen grail
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That's a good question though. What's the oldest Elite we know of?

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I want to say that it's Inslaan Gadogai. He's said to be 80-90 years old. Unless there's someone older I'm forgetting

gilded mason
brazen grail
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Alright. I knew there was one I was forgetting

terse lava
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I still wonder if that is simply natural for a Sangheili, or if Nizat took life extension stuff. We know thr San'Shyuum had been doing that for a thousand years

dim silo
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Would a unggoy make a good pet if domesticated, or are they to smart for that

terse lava
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They are sapient, and are just as smart, if not more so then a human

humble yacht
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Lol

gilded mason
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I think...them being able to talk, use weapons, and all that would make it fairly clear that they shouldn't be pets.

terse lava
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Unless you're a Forerunner😛

gilded mason
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lmao

dim silo
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i guess they would be better roommates i suppose

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maybe chill and eat some quesadillas with em .

gilded mason
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Roommates would be good, yes

terse lava
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Wouldn't want that, they breath methane

gilded mason
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They get a sealed section of the house full of methane.

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And fire insurance

true charm
terse lava
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You'd be going with them

true charm
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what best way to go if not with an ungoy bud? hug

unique rune
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Casually set your roommate and half your living accommodations on fire, brilliant prank

dim silo
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im sure we could find someone to make a really comfortable mask that could work out.

true charm
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Probably, i'd assume that with enough effort we'd be able to make one with current tech, it'd be much easier in the halo universe

terse lava
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I would still take a hard pass, you need to find him more methane

true charm
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high pitch voice would probably get annoying

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although, a sitcom about an unggoy and ODST roommates would be great lol

terse lava
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Maybe, could get used to that though

dim silo
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i wonder if they could be toilet trained. that would kinda be a deal breaker

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are they even shaped right for a toilet?

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this is more of a rabbit hole than i anticipated...

true charm
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eh shape would be easy

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more about if they know how to use one

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but given enough time

terse lava
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....what makes you think they wouldnt know how to use one?

gilded mason
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It's not like they're babies. They'd know how to use a human toilet once it is explained.

dim silo
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they are pretty smart. as long as we spoke the same language it sounds possible

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i wonder if they would play xbox

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thats the end goal here

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eat snacks and play xbox with an unggoy

terse lava
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That..might actually be a bit tricky for them

true charm
bronze stone
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Anyone know of any spartan that went Rouge like fully fighting against the UNSC?

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Has hatred to toward the UNSC to the point of killing UNSC members

gilded mason
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I don't think any became red, though some SIVs have gone against the UNSC, yes.

bronze stone
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Alright thanks I'm currently still playing the halo 5 campaign so in case my question sounds stupid sorry in advance

humble yacht
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Nice

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Ilsa Zane was a prototype spartan iv who went rogue

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Mickey went rogue after becoming a spartan

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A few spartan IIs went awol

true charm
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rip mickey ;-; same for rook

ivory crow
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It’s sad Rook died but also kind of cool we got to see an end to his story.

valid hemlock
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It needed to be done, sadly

stable flower
bronze stone
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Ooo I'll take a look into that person thanks

humble yacht
#

mickey didn't die

true charm
minor sky
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Oh, btw I was reading Shadows of Reach earlier, I really liked the chapter with the different Brute factions/clans/whatever all discussing stuff and trying to fully understand what is happening

ashen rivet
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why not all the marines have HUDs?

valid hemlock
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They haven't realize they are in a video game

ashen rivet
#

i mean it would be easier for them to survive with HUDs in their helmets

frozen silo
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Ok Im not understanding a cinematic right. Just beat Halo 3, Arbiter was on the ship with Chief. But then it skips to Hood and Arbiter saluting the fallen and him taking off. How??

ashen rivet
frozen silo
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How could arbiter leave the ship but chief is still on it

ashen rivet
tacit charm
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arby was on the side of the ship which went back to earth

ashen rivet
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during the slip space travel

frozen silo
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Not sure how i missed that

tacit charm
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idk how u missed that part

ashen rivet
#

and the chief got teleporter to requiem

terse lava
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Yeah, we even see the front half entering Earth's atmosphere and rescue team reaching the Arbiter

minor sky
#

Wait, it was earth?

I always assumed he landed on some human occupied world. Anyways, glad I finally have an answer to that

craggy sierra
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Well he was going through the ark portal that leads back to earth

languid tundra
#

I wonder if spartans who are having a kid come to full term sooner than normal prople

humble yacht
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why would they?

orchid prism
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Spartans are sterile... right?

languid tundra
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I don't know. I was just wondering if there's a link to augmentations and obstentrics

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Like, accelerated trimesters and increased protection from SIDS and FAS

pseudo umbra
humble yacht
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no

orchid prism
#

Oh

ebon wyvern
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Nevermind, saw the pin.

undone cobalt
#

Anyone else love that Humanity are the underdogs again in Infinite? I feel like that was missing in 4/5. The UNSC had never been quite on par with the Covenant in terms of strength, and they mostly won due to ingenuity and luck.

craggy sierra
#

It was literally just the elites

undone cobalt
craggy sierra
#

Also it kinda made a lot more sense for humanity to be better off post war

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Since the rest of the aliens were busy decending into civil war.

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And still are

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On top of getting stomped by the created

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But even beyond that it just sounds really disengenuous to say that humanity being an underdog was a missing plot element

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Cause that's kinda what the point of it all was

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The war ended

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Humanity rebounded while everyone else fell into chaos

minor sky
craggy sierra
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The universe and by proxy its status quo changed, how most things do when major events such as the end of a quarter century war transpire

ashen rivet
#

they can still have children

minor sky
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Yeah

ashen rivet
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but most of spartans don’t desire having children

undone cobalt
#

Even still, I feel Halo's story is at it's best when the odds are stacked against the UNSC. It's more interesting than simply having the UNSC be on equal footing with the Covenant.

minor sky
craggy sierra
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Something that's kind of essential in story telling, especially when, again, you end a 27 year long war

ashen rivet
minor sky
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How old was John when the war ended?

ashen rivet
#

Around in his 70s

craggy sierra
orchid prism
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Was there a spartan that had a child?

ashen rivet
#

look at the halopedia

ashen rivet
undone cobalt
orchid prism
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@ashen rivet i see

undone cobalt
minor sky
craggy sierra
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As are elites and every one else

ashen rivet
craggy sierra
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The power balance hasn't been changed at all as much as there's just a bigger one squishing everyone else

undone cobalt
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I'm pretty sure he was 70, he just didn't look it cause he had been in Cryosleep

ashen rivet
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or 50

undone cobalt
ashen rivet
#

chief was born in 2511

craggy sierra
#

Did you think the Infinity was the only ship in all of the UNSC or something throughout Halo 4 and 5?

ashen rivet
#

imagine the infinity is destroyed

undone cobalt
ashen rivet
#

most of the banished equipment is stolen from the covenant

minor sky
ashen rivet
minor sky
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All good

craggy sierra
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Banished ships are mostly scrap yard repairs and stolen. The banished succeed mostly by using guerrilla tactics. Not by just having high class assets and sheer force.

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They're space pirates compared to a 3000 year holy order

last anchor
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Brutality, and cunning in equal measure

craggy sierra
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Either case the Banished don't have the assets to maintain a full on war against humanity for even a fraction of the time the covenant did. They're capable of dealing damage, especially when they have a target to focus their assets towards, but they can't keep it up forever

last anchor
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Its probably why Chief is at Zeta Halo; they sent their forces to something strategic that the UNSC HAD to respond too.

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The Banished in control of a Halo instillation is bad news

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Also, to my fellow Halo fans;
Be proud to be members of a series that has actual competent orbital bombardment capabilities
Because Star Wars has officially revealed turbolasers to be ANEMIC for ground attack.

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Enjoy the might of your plasma lances incinerating all flesh in their range and MAC strikes causing earthquakes and techtonic shifts

undone cobalt
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Why do they even want the Ring? They don't share the Prophets fanatical beliefs.

Only reasons I could think of is an ultimatum, or to access Forerunner tech and knowledge.

craggy sierra
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The Harbinger

last anchor
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Its also a literal gun held to the rest of the universe's head more or less.
Even if they cant activated it for the reason Truth wanted too, its still capable of annihlating all life in the galaxy.

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Okay, the Milky Way's head

undone cobalt
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I thought the Harbinger was something that was fighting alongside them. They haven't specified who or what it is, is it something that originated on Zeta Halo?

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Nor have they specified what the Harbinger's or the Banished's goal is. Escharum just vaguely mentioned they want to honor the will of Atriox.

versed helm
#

Fiction Friday post says Requiem was presumed destroyed

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Welp

gilded mason
#

What about it?

versed helm
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They might bring it back

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They did actually bring up the possibility of it coming back in a lore entry

gilded mason
#

They gave hints back in the Spartan Field Manual as well.

versed helm
#

Yeah

unique rune
#

On one hand I don't like the thought of backpedaling, but on the other hand that whole bit in Spartan Ops was a really stupid way to handle the situation.

last anchor
#

Supposedly, it was destroyed because someone jokingly suggested it as a way out of the corner they'd written themselves into.
And Brian Reed went for it

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Not entirely improbable, considering he axed Black Team for...no discernable reason

unique rune
#

He axed Black Team because someone at 343 apparently went "yeah here's a team of Spartans we aren't doing anything with them at the moment".

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What a bizarre mess of story points Escalation was.

fair hazel
#

I don’t think it’s destroyed

minor sky
#

Ok, so maybe this is a dumb question, but is it possible to terraform a glassed world?

craggy sierra
#

Just had its eyebrows singed a bit

minor sky
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Also is it just me or is the art in escalation kinda jank?