#lore-and-universe

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versed helm
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I wonder whatever became of Del Rio during the whole Created fiasco

gilded mason
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Probably nothing serious

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Just continuing to live his life

versed helm
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He just wanted the chip

gilded mason
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Cortana might ignore him in a way to think to herself "See? I'm big enough to ignore what you wanted to do to me."

versed helm
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I also wonder whatever became of the UEG President

stable flower
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I wonder what will become of the SOF's crew by the time of Infinite.

versed helm
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We could see in a campaign expansion

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Yeah my bad lol. I mix them up on occasion for some reason lol

versed helm
cyan trail
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Ive always wondered if the UNSC had a water navy. Thats just not explored at all in any of the games.

tacit charm
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they have an aircraft carrier

cyan trail
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@tacit charm just 1? 😂

tacit charm
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we only see one in the halo 3 multiplayer map

cyan trail
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i assume they have full fleets on at least Earth and Reach

tacit charm
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there were also concept art on unsc attack boats and the mega blok variant so thats all

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also why would u use a water navy wen u have ships that can go more than 2 dimensions

stable flower
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Sea warfare in underexplored in Halo

devout abyss
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could the Flood have been Composed?

versed helm
cyan trail
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@tacit charm well those big ships cant go underwater so submarines would be very useful. Plus those big star ships would've been stupid expensive compared to a water fleet, and having smaller and cheaper water destroyers would be good for mass producing.

tacit charm
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submarines are good and all during a time where combat in the seas is a primary concern but in the past or i guess future 500 years where most if not all ur engagement takes place on land/air/vacuum i dont see much use for most naval ships on the sea tho thats not saying if push comes to shove or a specific situation the unsc wont use these assets

unique rune
# devout abyss could the Flood have been Composed?

Sort of. The Composer was an attempted method for combating the Flood so an essence could be digitized and while in that state the corruption could be cleaned out.

Except it didn't really pan out as the Forerunners had hoped, and inevitably the infection would return.

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So, yes, the Flood can be composed if that was the result you were looking for.

tacit charm
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essentially the flood infection was more than biological

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and if ur infected ur really screwed in this and/or the next life

cyan trail
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@tacit charm yeah you're right! maybe they'd be better at keeping smaller colonies in check instead of sending in a Marathon Cruiser haha

versed helm
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The flood is inevitable, it's really creepy stuff

scarlet quiver
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How is the flood inevitable?

versed helm
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No matter how much you kill it its still there, by the particles in the air

craggy sierra
minor sky
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I'd love for 343 to release a box set of the Rion Forge novels

novel kelp
versed helm
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Holy crap

novel kelp
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Yeah

versed helm
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Precursors

novel kelp
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What about them

versed helm
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Exactly

novel kelp
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No what are you talking about?

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What about the precursors

oblique lantern
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Lmao

novel kelp
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Fair enough

dawn knot
novel kelp
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Yes

scarlet quiver
minor sky
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I don't own the books, I hear they're good and wanna read them and idk, I like owning sets like that and having them up on my shelf, maybe I'm just being dumb like I usually am, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

scarlet quiver
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I dint think you are, as i know people who get them. They read the first book and think, wow. Then buy the rest in a set, and im like, well now you own two of the same books...

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Collectors reasons makes sense. I didnt think of that though

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I own all the halo books, so i understand the "wanting them on my shelf."

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Just no box sets 😁

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Rion is a great series though. So go ahead

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No spoilers, but Guilty Spark has been integral to halo. It is nice to see 343 tying loose ends before they cut off to infinite and pretend many of there story writing didnt happen

viscid trout
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....I don't think they're gonna pretend stuff from stories didn't happen

craggy sierra
scarlet quiver
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Sorry let me refrain, not pretend it didn't happen, but just end storylines and move on in a different direction.
It happens, i understand sometimes you need to

craggy sierra
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I dunno what you think they're doing but it's not what they're doing

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Halo's going to continue having lateral lore presentation and universe branches for time to come.

scarlet quiver
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I am not saying they will, or will not. Just hoping you are right and everything is smooth.

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No troubles. Imma little grumpy tonight. Water damage from broken dishwasher and its been a loooong day.

craggy sierra
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Most of Halo's storylines in the EU are in a different direction from the main games already. Changing direction on that would kinda be terrible and ruin a lot of the merit to the EU.

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What's it going to be? Every book is just a constant apocalyptic threat after another like the games are pretty much at now?

scarlet quiver
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Most of the summaries on the back of the books are the same: "...against the next biggest threat against the universe!"
😂

brazen grail
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Well Divine Wind seems to be talking like that. The Keepers aren't a massive group but they're a threat that has quietly emerged from the shadows that now threatens the galaxy by what they're trying to do

viscid trout
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To be fuar, that tends to happen with fringe groups that refuse to believe the prophets were wrong.

craggy sierra
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I...dunno what books you're reading but that's not usually the case. Usually it would't be great if the protagonists succeeded but not many of them would end in the universe dying.

brazen grail
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That book is creeping up on us. Just under 3 months now. Still a little while to go, but I'm highly interested on where they take it

scarlet quiver
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Yup me too

brazen grail
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At first I thought that Castor would simply die, and he may still die, but the prelate just threw a wrench in everything.

craggy sierra
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I wanna see what Godagai and his garbage bag are up to

brazen grail
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Garbage bag?

craggy sierra
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This is a garbage bag and no one can tell me otherwise

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brazen grail
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Oh that lol. It has a name for it but I forgot exactly what it is. Starts with a T though I believe

craggy sierra
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Tabard but tbh it doesn't look like any I know of

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I'm just gonna say he robbed a homeless dude and we're gonna find out the details on the book

brazen grail
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Yeah we'll go with that.

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But I'm interested to see what role he will play. I still don't think he suddenly believes in the Great Journey again. He won't just let Castor activate the rings I'd imagine

minor sky
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I think an anthology book of "what if?" Stories could be good

brazen grail
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Would be interesting. Like Ripa Moramee possibly joining the Banished if he was still alive. Or Sesa Refumee joining. Or if Tartarus believed Arbiter. Lots of possibilities there.

versed helm
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A halo what if would be cool but it's more of a fanmade thing

versed helm
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who was ripa

gilded mason
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The arbiter before Thel

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He was in Halo Wars

versed helm
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oh yeah

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Theory as to why Thel is wearing an old armour set: Ripa was wearing the newer version but since his body was destroyed, the Prophets had to use an older set

terse lava
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The armor given to an Arbiter is made solely for that particular Sangheili. It is not the same armor throughout the ages, just designed thr same.

versed helm
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Bruh, Thel got screwed lmao

unique rune
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Well, yeah, he was made an Arbiter.
Kinda the point.

terse lava
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Perhaps, but as Rtas said, "your armor system is not as..new as ours," which is the point

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The last true "modern" arbiter armor was likely the gold set that Fal 'Chavamee( the Arbiter from Halo Legends: The Duel) wore

versed helm
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I see

terse lava
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And that was around 400 years before halo: CE

versed helm
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Does Thel still have his Arbiter armour?

gilded mason
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Probably has it sitting somewhere, yeah

terse lava
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Yeah, likely

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Or are you asking if Thel has Fal's armor?

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In which case, no

versed helm
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no, I was asking if he had HIS armor from 2 and 3

terse lava
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Then likely yes, somewhere in his keep

dawn knot
terse lava
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Oddly specific

soft whale
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Yo

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I need answers

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Why does the Mantis have crotch armor

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If anybody has an answer please @ me so I know when you’ve answered. I really need to know this

fair hazel
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I think that's a weight for balancing or something..

fair hazel
spiral jewel
tacit charm
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Ok so something i found interesting about the shield or the overall endurance of high charity. in halo 3 the damn thing fell onto the ark, from that scene the city covered 510 km in 2 seconds putting that into ke you get 3.25125E+27J or funnily enough 777.067 petatons

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777.067 petatons = 777,670,000,000 megatons

carmine sleet
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I have a feeling that one was unintentional on Bungie's part

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Like, there's no way that someone at the company worked out that and said they need to make this work out to this in the cutscene

safe inlet
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i don't think someone at bungie worked that out lol

versed helm
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In halo 3 how does forward unto dawn hover above the ark so low without falling

unique rune
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UNSC frigates are just capable of hovering in atmosphere for reasons unexplained. It’s best to not think about it too hard.

stiff tartan
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The lore is quite simple actually, proceeds to explain reality n existence itself about one green boie

versed helm
versed helm
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Is that a patlabor

unique rune
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yes

versed helm
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Cool

versed helm
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Its just incomprehendable that the spirit of fire still had enough resources and manpower to still overcome the Banished

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Why

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I watched the opening of halo wars 2 and thought it was weird that covenant couldn’t kill banished at height of power, but then I thought maybe they didn’t commit many forces and spirit of fire is just v motivated even w only half crew left

brazen grail
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I didn't like that about Halo Wars 2. You introduce an awesome new enemy faction and the entire game felt one-sided in favor of the good guys

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It should've been a constant back and forth between two brilliant tacticians. Cutter attacks the Banished forces and then Atriox finds a way to counter that and make Cutter think of a new tactic.

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At no point in time besides Atriox beating Red Team did I feel that the UNSC were in any danger of losing. It's fine if the good guys win, but it doesn't need to be a curbstomp, especially when the good guys are clearly at the disadvantage. I get that Cutter is great at what he does and that the SoF crew is very competent, but it just felt so one-sided, and for a faction in the Banished that is claimed to be strong (they still are) you don't show that by having them get mopped up

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And it's not a good impression in some ways. Now people that have played Halo Wars 2 are questioning how the Banished could have even beaten the Infinity when an old ship put them in a stalemate.

versed helm
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Exactly,its just questioning

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At least fighting a reach-era covenant corvette is more fitting,but a BANISHED SUPERCARRIER,it seems a lot like plot armor to me.

brazen grail
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Oh you're referring to Shadows of Reach?

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Because the Spirit of Fire fought an Assault Carrier in Halo Wars 2.

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But the Banished does have a Supercarrier now according to Shadows of Reach

versed helm
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Oh damn nvm

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Still plot armor

full bane
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Theory: Grunts are the most powerful soldiers but they limits his power to not destroy the entire universe

versed helm
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Interesting I like it

fair hazel
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Unggoy are held back generally. Were at least

boreal breach
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Aren't they now fully integrated into the Created?

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Like Cortana helped them out and now they help her?

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And that's where the grunt mechs from h5 warzone come from?

gilded mason
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Nah, the mechs were being made beforehand.

boreal breach
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Oh

gilded mason
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And to specify, it's many grunts on Balaho that joined the Created. Nothing has been said about grunts that live elsewhere.

scarlet quiver
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I uh, am not sure how non AI can join the created.

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Like what benefit are the grunt to join the created rather than submit to them and their rule?

dawn knot
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versed helm
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Any major power that is evil is bound to have lot's of Grunts

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Except for the Swords of Sanghelios

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Lol

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Sorry for ruining that

tacit charm
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wat

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ok interesting

grizzled bough
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i have a few questions that someone could answer. see, im coming up with ideas for a fan game, and i want it to be lore accurate. so i hope that someone who knows more about halo lore than me can answer. my first question is should i put master chief in as the main character, or do someone else? this game would take place around a few months before the end of the war, and would be in a location nearby Reach. i would like to know if master chief could be at this location at this time, or if he couldnt be. my next question is about factions. i want to have all the main factions in there, so that means i need the UNSC, the Covenant, the Forerunner, the Banished, and the Flood. is it possible for them to be at this location at this time or not. my last question is about 3 weapons. if you know the name of that mystery weapon shown off in the halo infinite trailer then could you tell me. also if you have a picture of the scorch mine or that mystery stun grenade i'd be grateful

gilded mason
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If it's a few months before the end, then no Forerunners and no Flood if you want a UNSC character that doesn't die or is otherwise "trapped" by the end.

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And using John as the main character would include a lot of baggage, so it might be best to use an original character or something.

grizzled bough
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thank you

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i will probably do that

scarlet quiver
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Question:

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If the Created really had humanities future in best of mind, then who cares that it was an imperial rule?

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They literally only want what is best for humanities future to thrive. Stop the endless killing, disease, famine, and so forth.

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So are we just fighting the Created because we dont want to be told what to do?

humble yacht
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Humans like freedom

gilded mason
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She also went about this by murdering millions of people

scarlet quiver
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I would think that in the least, a smart thought would be, "well lets hear their ideas before we shut them down."

humble yacht
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The idea of freedom is engrained in human history. We’ve been fighting for freedom for ages

gilded mason
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That would be more possible if Cortana didn't do the things she did beforehand

scarlet quiver
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Did they though? Or did she kill people who were fighting the Created?

gilded mason
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She literally killed people who had no idea what was even going on

humble yacht
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The process of raising the guardians caused millions of deaths as collateral damage

gilded mason
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Yes

humble yacht
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It cause major earthquakes and stuff,

scarlet quiver
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Aaaah okay

gilded mason
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And stuff like Meridian, where Prometheans killed the colonists for no reason

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And then Balaho, where she had all the embassy members murdered or some reason

scarlet quiver
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Okay that all makes sense

gilded mason
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So, yeah, not much trust, understandably

humble yacht
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If Cortana were more normal then maybe she would have gone about it in a less destructive way

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But I think she lost her compassionate parts in H4

scarlet quiver
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It just when you hear "imperial rule", people freak and think of chinese dynasties and nazis. Which i get it, but some great things came to china for instance that came from imperial dynasties.

gilded mason
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And also death

scarlet quiver
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But yea cortana does seem to be off the chains

humble yacht
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When i hear imperial rule, I think Star Wars

scarlet quiver
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Hahaha

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Yea

humble yacht
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I don’t think she is doing all this purely from a point of wanting to save biological life. I think she has some ulterior, more selfish motives

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My personal theory is that her rampancy led to an unhealthy obsession with Chief, and that she’s doing all this in an effort to create a galaxy where he doesn’t have to put himself at risk anymore, so she’s forcibly demilitarizing everyone

scarlet quiver
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🤔

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You have an interesting idea

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I hope they get into why she is doing it and just not how to stop her

gilded mason
humble yacht
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I don’t think so

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There are still people who think she’s being controlled by Didact or flood

scarlet quiver
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Ooooo

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How by the didact?

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At the end of 5?

gilded mason
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Hm?

humble yacht
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I don’t know how, it’s just a theory some people have

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I personally hate that theory and think it’s stupid

scarlet quiver
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Cant argue a bit.

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To go back a bit:

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K never mind, figured it out

main rivet
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Almost all those theories are stupid, it's just people who don't want to believe Cortana could be "evil" now latching onto whatever they can.

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Of course, 343 sort of encouraged that stuff, so who knows what they're gonna' do.

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Backtracking and saying "actually she was controlled by the Didact the whole time" wouldn't necessarily be out of character.

humble yacht
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It’d be super dumb

scarlet quiver
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Does it not seem to be a flip of character if she was evil though?

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She seemed to be awfully non evil since 2001.

gilded mason
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Rampancy.

scarlet quiver
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If she is, then so be it. I wont argue what ever they write down

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I guess

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That rampancy one makes sense though

humble yacht
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Personality change has always been a symptom of rampancy

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The only difference with Cortana being she didn’t die from it

gilded mason
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Yup

scarlet quiver
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I seem to get two ideas from people:

  1. rampancy has changed her personality
    Or
  2. she did die, but one of her rampancy parts she shed is what survived and is the one we are dealing with
gilded mason
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It's both

humble yacht
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Yes

gilded mason
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As she said in Dominion Splinter, the rampant shards she put into the Mantle's Approach systems made it to Genesis, and the Domain

humble yacht
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In H4 she literally ejects her rampant fragments into didact’s ship to stop him

gilded mason
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They combined to become what we see later

scarlet quiver
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Aaaah okay okay
Thanks for the enlightenment, much appreciated guys.

humble yacht
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The domain cured the fatal aspect of rampancy but the fragments were still crazy

gilded mason
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Yup

scarlet quiver
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🤔 okie doke

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I married crazy, so i get that.

versed helm
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About all the vehicles that were included in Halo wars one and halo wars 2,Such as the vulture,Grizzly,or even cyclops,did they still exist in the background (meaning not in gameplay) did they exist in the backgrounds of halo reach-5?Or where they written in another iteration or just decommissioned?

unique rune
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The idea is that they would have existed somewhere at the time, yes. Just like practically any bit of tech in the Halo universe. Might not have shown up in the game for any number of reasons, but it realistically could have been present at the time.

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In the case of the M850 Grizzly, the main thing is that it's... kinda pointlessly overkill in a lot of situations where a Scorpion-series MBT would do the job just fine, minus the logistics and maintenance nightmare that the Grizzly presents.

viscid trout
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Personally I think that didact will have some role in the future. But personally I'm of the opinion that he's gonna be the reason why things went south for the unsc then cortana's insanity.

craggy sierra
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I mean...yeah he was the reason

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She fragmented herself to beat him with her rampant fragments getting to the domain via his ship

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We saw that in Halo 4

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I like how people think there's deeper reason to Cortana's insanity that must be from someone pulling strings when we literally saw the decline of her rampancy on screen

stiff tartan
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Wait they do? I thought everybody knows it was by the logic plague

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Or her expiration

humble yacht
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Nobody can “know” it was logic plague because that’s just a fan theory

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There’s no actual evidence supporting that in the lore

stiff tartan
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Oh

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Yea i forgot about it being a fan theory

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But her expiration thingy where an AI can only be stable for 8 years or something like that might be the cause of her decline

humble yacht
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Well yeah

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That’s what halo 4 is about

stiff tartan
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Oh, yea i forgot about that

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But in halo 3 cortana keeps on giving me and my cousin a bad sore throat

humble yacht
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Don’t know what that means

stiff tartan
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Basically, me and my cousin screamed alot when we saw cortana, she was like that one girl from a horro movie who comes out of the tv

heavy sierra
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Ah yes

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The Halo 3 Cortana jumpscares

stiff tartan
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No big surprise

noble fjord
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what's the reason for Douglas's right shoulder pad symbol

unique rune
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So that players can more easily distinguish between the members of Red Team

lilac coyote
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Is there a lore reason why fuel rod cannons explode in Halo CE's campaign?

stiff tartan
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Hmmm, never thought of it, its like the energy sword disappearing

versed helm
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So the enemy doesn’t use it

lilac coyote
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Makes sense

stiff tartan
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I mean, how does that work

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What if u just, dropped the gun and your allies cant use it

unreal furnace
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The thing starts beeping and hissing before it explodes so i think it's just going critical

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But yeah any lore on this is wafer thin at best

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Its a gameplay conceit to get rid of a weapon that didn't have view modes or player behavior coding

gaunt smelt
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Idk why i know more about halo lore than actual gameplay

pastel hamlet
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i just beat halo 1 it was nice, but i have no idea what was going on. i mean the Flood running loose and forcing the floating dude to destroy all life within the nearby 25000 light years and then we stop it by destroying halo - that made perfect sense

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i didnt get the point where convenant were attacking earth ships and landing on Halo. what were they doing

frail halo
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Protecting the "Sacred Ring"

tacit charm
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trying to speedrun the great journey

atomic dawn
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the covenant were hunting down the humans, humans had to crash land, nearest by object they had was the halo ring

lean karma
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Just re-watched halo landfall trailer for halo 3... Wasn't it supposed to be a full on movie?

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There's so much potential for halo to be a big movie franchise on top of a video game series with all the lore in the books

lean karma
tacit charm
unique rune
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you get context before and after that game in later titles/books
Well, that’s not quite true. Most of the important context for the Covenant’s war against humanity is covered in Halo CE’s manual, which CE: Anniversary’s manual also reiterates.

The Fall of Reach and Contact Harvest both delve into more detail on many of the specifics, but the important parts were originally included with the game, just not directly incorporated into the campaign itself.

versed helm
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Does the UEG have a maritime Navy,and if yes,how is it?

limpid meadow
limpid meadow
unique rune
slender goblet
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have I spoiled myself on Shadow of Reach? I was refreshing my lore on Dr Halsey and Cortana, and I instantly make the connection between Blue team objectives and Halsey's spare clone brain. They must have been on Reach for those brains.

humble yacht
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Read it and find out

craggy sierra
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But outside of niche scenarios, most space ships can do what the navy could do but better.

heavy sierra
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Question: why was Halsey arrested/interrogated at the beginning of Halo 4?

grizzled bough
gilded mason
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Sure, Banished can be included. Be aware they'd be a non-superpower raiding group at that point, though.

grizzled bough
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yeah

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thx

gilded mason
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👍

humble yacht
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Basically she stole UNSC property

versed helm
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Let's be honest

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Halsey only went to Onyx to snoop on the Spartan 3's not save humanity. If she wanted to save humanity, why bring along Spartans who have a highly reduced chance of having kids?

humble yacht
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They don’t have reduced chances of having kids

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She also wasn’t looking to save humanity

versed helm
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Or are they less....you know?

humble yacht
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They aren’t less anything

versed helm
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Less NSFW

quiet tusk
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She technically only kidnapped Kelly.. the rest she requested be sent to her

humble yacht
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She misappropriated spartan 3s

versed helm
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No, in fall of reach, one of the side effects was a reduced drive for mating

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I don't know if i can say the s-word

humble yacht
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Potential side effect

gilded mason
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Yup. "Potential" is the keyword here

humble yacht
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Randal-037 went and had a daughter after going awol

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The spartan who first tested chief’s Mark VI armor also was interested in starting a family

versed helm
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I think it affected John. Either that or he's just so damn professional

humble yacht
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I think you’re projecting

gilded mason
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He's probably just professional

versed helm
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How am I projecting?

humble yacht
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I dunno, why you assume John got affected?

versed helm
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Probably because I want my favourite franchise to have an ace icon?

humble yacht
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Well that wouldn’t really work because sexuality is something you’re born with

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Some mad scientist doesn’t determine that for you

versed helm
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John could have been born asexual. Just because he wanted to marry a girl when he was 6 doesn't mean he's whatever the term for the opposit of ace is

humble yacht
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Then why does it matter what spartan augs do to you?

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You’re all over the place

versed helm
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because i brought up because Halsey brought spartans to onyx

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I have ADHD, sue me

humble yacht
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Probably best to just move on from the topic, then

versed helm
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All right, then

winged night
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So like halo amirite?

versed helm
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Yup

warm sparrow
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Do female sangheli exist? I don't think we have ever seen one in game.

terse lava
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They do

gilded mason
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They exist, but you wouldn't be able to tell anyway

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They look almost exactly like the males

warm sparrow
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Ah i see that makes sense

terse lava
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The only real difference is their height

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And, apparently, "smell like petals"

gilded mason
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Feathers

terse lava
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Ah thanks

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Yea, feathers

gilded mason
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Though that's according to one guy

warm sparrow
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we also see no genitalia where humans would have it when we saw the arbiter

versed helm
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You can see them in halo legends "the duel" (I think that's what it's called)

terse lava
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Those would be inside the body

gilded mason
terse lava
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Rather then outside

warm sparrow
versed helm
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So it isn't

gilded mason
warm sparrow
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ah

gilded mason
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Just with a really...not good look

terse lava
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Yep, Han 'Chavam was Fal 'Chavamee's wife

versed helm
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Just a skinner male with more mouth like mandibles

terse lava
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They just gave her that unique look so you would sympathize more with her

gilded mason
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Which is a bit insulting, really lmao

terse lava
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It is annoying, not as bad as her..."hair braids" though

versed helm
warm sparrow
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Art sangheli reptiles of a sort?

gilded mason
#

They are saurian-like

warm sparrow
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well if they are not mammals they have no reason to produce milk

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which would make that female design literally impossible

versed helm
#

What kinds of animals are on sanghelios?

warm sparrow
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not sure

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if i would play any new halo spin off if it was just about sanghelios would def play it

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it would be interesting to see more of the planet and elite civilization

versed helm
#

True

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See all of the different cultures and stuff

terse lava
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They have heilioskrill, the 'sKellen (which the banshee is modeled after) Colo, a cow analog, to name a few

warm sparrow
#

this is off topic but we know chief is 7 feet right?

gilded mason
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6'10"

warm sparrow
#

really

gilded mason
#

Ye

warm sparrow
#

that makes more sense

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when i googled it said "roughly 7 feet"

gilded mason
#

The armor adds a few inches of height

warm sparrow
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the prob I had with it was that he is as tall as locke who is 6,10

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in fact locke is taller by a very small amount

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so it would not make sense that chief is 7

versed helm
#

How did Regret find the slipspace co-ordinates to Delta Halo?

gilded mason
#

From a Luminary his troops found on Meridian.

versed helm
#

Then why did he go to Earth first?

gilded mason
#

Gave the location of the Ark portal and all the Halos

versed helm
#

Ohhh

terse lava
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Yep, the luminary called earth by the Forerunner name, Erde-Tyrene. Nothing about thr human presence on the world, thus Regret was over eager and took the fleet he had

viscid trout
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Amd cue the massive blue screen moment he had when he saw that it was probabky one of the most heavily defended planets he's ever encountered.

oak turret
#

"the fleet that destroyed reach was ten times this size"

tacit charm
#

*50 times

dire mantle
#

Me wishing spartan 1337 was canon to the halo series

tacit charm
#

he is if you ask frank o connor

obsidian thistle
#

I wouldnt mind it being a in-universe TV-show

versed helm
#

Red Vs Blue is a tv show in the Halo universe that pokes fun at the UNSC

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(Not true)

grizzled bough
carmine sleet
#

What do you mean by Forerunners in regards to what you want in your game? Like living breathing Forerunners like the Ur-Didact or the Prometheans? Because neither would make sense in the middle of the Human-Covenant War

obsidian magnet
#

I’m actually the Mister Chief

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That was a photo from me during my Halo 2 audition

gilded mason
grizzled bough
gilded mason
#

Still can't be done until post-war

grizzled bough
#

k

carmine sleet
#

Didn't need to tag me and Prometheans weren't seen until 2557, which is about 4 years (Give or take a few months and days) after the war ended

grizzled bough
#

thank you both

gilded mason
#

Hunters in the Dark had Armigers

grizzled bough
#

so no flood and no forerunner/prometheans got it

gilded mason
#

Yup

carmine sleet
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Sentinels would be possible, depending on the setting

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But like, they aren't exactly meant for waging war. They're mainly meant as security

gilded mason
#

Yeh

carmine sleet
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Like sure they can do things like cut a ship in half but that's not really something they are meant to do, not to mention that they were destroying themselves while doing so

gilded mason
#

I always really disliked that scene, myself

reef cave
#

hello

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what are yall talking about

carmine sleet
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I do kinda wish they went with them cutting it using their beams

gilded mason
#

Same

grizzled bough
#

would it be alright to include promethean weapons (they are pretty awesome) but the characters dont know the origins of the weapons and find them in some forerunner cave or something

stable flower
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Sentinels don't see much action in 343 media due to the presence of the Prometheans.

gilded mason
#

Nah, would feel too contrived

reef cave
#

oh were talking about forerunners

carmine sleet
grizzled bough
#

yeah

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i'd think of something better

reef cave
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promethean weapons i think should feel more powerful

grizzled bough
#

well

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thank you guys

reef cave
#

now

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lets trash talk

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about the locke vs john fight

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because it sucks

gilded mason
#

Yeah the choreography is pretty bad, though that's been beaten to death at this point.

carmine sleet
#

That's a conversation that has happened enough already, the choreography isn't the best but people often forget neither of them are trying to kill the other and people constantly make out as though Locke should've died in a single punch when that's clearly untrue

reef cave
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he shouldnt die in a single punch

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didnt one of the augmentations tell about being able to handle landings or hits

gilded mason
#

but people often forget neither of them are trying to kill the other
Though I do find it funny Locke tried to shoot John as soon as he saw he was about to lose.

reef cave
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what would happen

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if a fan favorite spartan chased down chief

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maybe a spartan III

gilded mason
#

So Jun?

reef cave
#

possibly

gilded mason
#

Since he's the only widely-know III that is alive

reef cave
#

i'd love to see a reach spartan in action again

gilded mason
#

And he doesn't exactly fight anymore

reef cave
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i know he doesnt

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its just

carmine sleet
reef cave
#

i could wish

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im impressed they didnt turn their shields on

craggy sierra
elder fog
#

Anyone have an idea on what the time line for Halo infinite is gonna be??

inland axle
#

Maybe is old lore, but idk

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Supposedly

gilded mason
inland axle
#

There's like 12 original rings

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At the end of the whole Forerruner - Flood War

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(I don't even know if that term is still correct)

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And a bunch of them where actually destroyed by the Flood

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The seven survivors where the rings that lasted to the present

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But

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With the seven rings, it was enough to purge the entire galaxy

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So what was the purpose of having the extra rings that were destroyed?

gilded mason
#

They functioned differently than the 6 new rings

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They functioned more like a flashlight than the later ones which were like a bare bulb.

inland axle
#

I see

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Thanks

unique rune
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The seven survivors where the rings that lasted to the present
That’s… not quite right. Only one installation of the original 12-ring senescent array survived, which was repaired and incorporated into the neoteric 7-ring Halo array that we know from the games.

fair hazel
stiff tartan
#

Id like to think that there would be a dlc map/mission on reach and the easter egg would be noble six's helmet

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And then your new cortana proceeds to tell that this man was the man who gave the pillar of autumn a window of escape

gilded mason
gilded mason
fair hazel
#

Yeah..

unique rune
#

Sounds... forced.

stiff tartan
craggy sierra
#

The dude's defining personality trait is dying

stiff tartan
#

e

terse eagle
#

Would the spirit of fire have mongeese?

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Since we don't see them I'm kinda curious

unique rune
#

Probably

pulsar pivot
#

And my main Man Sgt.johnson Finally got a Major Callout

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The Academy is the Academy of Sgt. Johnson or something close to that

gilded mason
pulsar pivot
#

Hold on let me find it in a Video

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Aight I found it

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I'll send a Picture

gilded mason
#

Honestly, it's just the Mark V[B] helmet, and considering that's one of the default options for players to have, I doubt there's more to it than that.

pulsar pivot
#

I can Believe

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It just feels like if they didnt Want to call out noble 6 they would have put a Mark 5 or 6 Helm

terse lava
#

Its likely just there as a default, as Six and the rest of his team get a statue

versed helm
#

i just finished halo ghosts of onyx its really good i recommend it

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Is onyx made out of the sentinals

versed helm
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I think so

obsidian thistle
#

The most Noble Six gets post-War is a replica of his helmet on display at Outpost Discovery. And even then its not listed as his helmet

tacit charm
#

he also didnt get a statue built in new new alexandria that featured noble team

obsidian thistle
#

The helmet serves more as a "memorial to all Spartans who sacrificed their lives for our species' survival."

#

Regarding this though

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Honestly it just seems like a Mark V (B) helmet Graphic the in-universe peeps decided to use

fair hazel
#

Aren’t six pictures depicted with him having one of the attachments on top

unique rune
#

Some earlier images of B312 have the UA attachment on his helmet, but canon renderings of him generally just use the default Mk.V[B].

obsidian thistle
#

There is 1 dubious source from Lootcrate where it did depict that

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And he almost got a upgraded Recon helmet

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(He ultimately either never got it or wore it)

fair hazel
#

It annoys me how Thorne never got the warrior

undone cobalt
#

Anyone know why 343i bothered making the Assault Rifle in Infinite the MA40 rather than the MA37 from Reach when they're functionally exactly the same?

humble yacht
#

i'm sure lore-wise there are differences

versed helm
#

Maybe they’re not the same idk

undone cobalt
#

Well, actually I guess it was to make room for slight design changes they made.

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Cause there are little differences in appearance between them.

#

MA40 could just be an updated MA37 I guess since this takes place a while after Reach.

versed helm
#

Oh yeah it’s been a while so maybe they just fixed some bugs

fair hazel
#

Theres more ammo

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But functionally the same? As in what, if you stretch out then same for other assault rifles

undone cobalt
#

As in most other AR variants either aesthetically look different or operate different (in game or lore) the Infinite AR is more or less just the Reach AR, but like I said, there are small differences

fair hazel
#

A lot of the stuff operates similarly though

obsidian thistle
#

The MA37 is a weird weapon in general. I dont blame 343i just creating a new weapon outright

#

Its caused countless debates on Halopedia due to stuff regarding it.

#

Safest route is to just go the new weapon route aha.

obsidian magnet
#

I’d prefer the Halo Reach AR look over the Classic style

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Idk why

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Just looks good

unique rune
#

I cannot stand the design of the MA37 and I’m still a little irked by 343’s decision to make the MA40 look so similar. It is by far my least favorite variation of the MA5 family.

fair hazel
#

That design isn't my favourite for sure

undone cobalt
#

I wish they stuck with the MA5D, that thing is still the best looking AR to date imo

versed helm
#

I like the halo3 one

versed helm
unique rune
#

Yeah, the MA5D is probably my favorite of them all.

stable flower
#

The M319 is weird too. That thing has been in service for nearly 300 years.

versed helm
#

Built to last

woven plaza
#

So I gotta ask

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Aren't the events of Halo 4 and 5 pretty much Kilo-Five's fault?

humble yacht
#

Nah

woven plaza
#

If they hadn't tried to screw over the Sangheli, and in doing so, picked up Jul M'dama only for him to escape through some portal on onyx, there wouldn't have been a Jul M'dama's Covenant, most likely

humble yacht
#

Jul’s covenant didn’t really do much in the way of propelling the forerunner’s resurgence

#

They maybe got Chief to move along more quickly

#

But Chief would have let out the Didact on his own eventually

gilded mason
#

Unless thanks to there being less opposition, Cortana would have more time to properly vet things.

woven plaza
#

actually real quick, why did the Infinity go to Requiem?

humble yacht
#

Well Infinity showing up also made things accelerate

gilded mason
#

They got coordinates from the composer, I think

woven plaza
#

I was gonna say something along the lines of "maybe if the Infinity wasn't busy cleaning up the mess on Sanghelios (remember, Kilo-Five was arming the Servants of the Abiding Truth), they could've got to Requiem faster and picked up MC"

gilded mason
#

Yeah, that part wouldn't matter

woven plaza
#

MC releases the Didact trying to contact the Infinity, right?

gilded mason
#

Ye

woven plaza
#

if the Infinity was a bit earlier, they could've just picked up MC

gilded mason
#

Well, they wouldn't be earlier anyway

humble yacht
#

Still kinda dumb how the Didact was able to manipulate requiem’s systems from@inside the cryptum

#

You’d think Librarian would have seen that eventuality

gilded mason
#

Yeah

woven plaza
#

sighs

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I forgot I can't swer

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Anyways in one of the books/short stories weren't they like "oh snap the audiobook library we got to make the Didact hate humans less while in the Cryptum for 3483294832 years got corrupted now he'll still hate humans"

fair hazel
#

I was about to reference that stuff. The domain was supposed to heal his mind, but the final revelation from the gravemind to the librarian was a tragic one

humble yacht
#

Let’s face it, the domain is a crock of bologna anyway

woven plaza
#

what about Star Roads™

humble yacht
#

What about them?

stable flower
woven plaza
#

the fact the didact in the cryptum could do anything outside of the cryptum seems like a massive oversight

pulsar pivot
#

It really does when you think about it

#

It's a Mental Asylum for him but in the game he uses it as a Little Base most of the Game

woven plaza
#

he just flies the damn thing around

#

doesn't he scan the infinity with it too?

grave slate
#

So I may be dumb but how is the flood around in halo 2? All the flood on the ring in Halo CE was wiped out right?

unique rune
#

Only the Flood located on Installation 04, yes.

#

Installation 05 maintained its own Flood samples for study that had managed to break out of containment at some point in the ring’s history.

full bane
#

Theory: in halo stickers universe, elites and grunt's are LGBT

#

my proofs:

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:man_face:

versed helm
#

Maybe just platonic love hard to tell

grave slate
woven plaza
unique rune
#

I think it's believed that 2401 Penitent had gotten sloppy with upkeep over the years which contributed to the outbreak, but it's not exactly clear what all happened, if I remember correctly.

humble yacht
#

2401 Pentitent Tangent did not perform security checks despite one of the lesser maintenance AI requesting assistance many times

#

we don't know what Tangent was doing instead

woven plaza
#

that's right up there with the Didact's Cryptum being able to do more than play audiobooks levels of oversight

#

it's the flood, you'd think that the monitors of last-measure galaxy-nuke installations made to wipe out the actual flood, would be made to absolutely never neglect flood related stuff

humble yacht
#

monitors came from humans

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humans are flawed

#

some flaws slip through the cracks

woven plaza
#

also consider, 000 Tragic Solitude was apparently too busy being mad about the damage to the Ark and plotting the destruction of all life in the galaxy to take a few days to sterilize every last picometer of High Charity

humble yacht
#

the damage to the ark probably made full sterilization not feasible at the time

limpid meadow
humble yacht
#

so instead a sentinel wall was erected and the flora and fauna in the quarantine zone purged

limpid meadow
#

And given how many monitors we hear about in the Forerunner saga, they can't all have been composed minds.

woven plaza
#

he clearly wasn't lacking in Retriever Sentinels

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or the resources needed to heavily arm them

humble yacht
#

i don't think all the monitors were composed minds but i do think the halo array monitors were

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even tho Tragic Solitude was technically a composed forerunner

woven plaza
#

because iirc, the Retriever Sentinels were indeed modified to have heavy combat capabilities

limpid meadow
#

They were

woven plaza
#

though to be clear, was there any material hinting that the flood were still active before HW2?

royal star
#

hold on i can't read all of this

limpid meadow
humble yacht
woven plaza
#

or at the least, High Charity being under containment

limpid meadow
#

Neither.

humble yacht
#

even tho Hunters in the Dark sort of retconned the condition of the ark, it didn't mention Flood at all

limpid meadow
#

Hunters in the Dark does mention the wreck of High Charity, but that's all as I recall

woven plaza
#

so is flood being still active on the ark a HW2 only thing (as of now)?

limpid meadow
#

As in, was it first mentioned in HW2? If so, the answer is yes.

humble yacht
#

hw2 was the first time since h3 that flood on the ark have been addressed

woven plaza
#

and to be clear, it wasn't sterilized in Awakening the Nightmare, just re-contained?

limpid meadow
#

As far as we know, yes

last anchor
#

Too big to sterilize without aid of an instillation monitor most likely and 00 Tragic Solitude is kind of C4'd

humble yacht
#

we saw the sentinels begin the process of recontainment

#

we assume they were successful

woven plaza
#

all it takes is one flood spore hitching a ride back to reach...

limpid meadow
#

The short story Sacrifice does seem to imply that the Flood had been dealt with, however, as the Banished had been able to return to High Charity and recover some stuff from within.

last anchor
#

Those flakes of the slip-crystal from freakin First Strike right?

limpid meadow
#

Not the flakes, those came from the Dreadnought, but codes to access said Dreadnought came from High Charity's wreckage.

humble yacht
#

wait i thought the banished got that stuff from the dreadnaught

#

ok

woven plaza
#

I really hope they don't just leave the HW/HW2 fans hanging in Infinite though. Like you teleported a whole halo to the location of Installation 04. Like even if it's disarmed, that's still big implications for the wider universe

humble yacht
#

the new halo didn't make it all the way there

#

it got stopped early

limpid meadow
#

I'm sure they'll address things within the next 10 years, but in the main campaign? I doubt it.

woven plaza
#

sob

limpid meadow
#

That's just my point of view though

woven plaza
#

also the halo getting stopped was way before 2061 right (Halo Infinite is 2061 right?)

humble yacht
#

2060

woven plaza
#

2059 was the Second Battle of The Ark

#

2060?

last anchor
#

Yes.

humble yacht
quiet tusk
#

2053 is the first halo

humble yacht
#

uh, noo

limpid meadow
#

2560

woven plaza
#

what was 2059 then

last anchor
#

I think he missed an extra 5

#

And...also a year

humble yacht
#

yes, we forgot the 5

limpid meadow
#

yup

humble yacht
#

halo ce was 2552

last anchor
#

CE through most of 3 are in 2552

#

September through December, with the epiloge of 3 in March of 53

woven plaza
#

ah whoops, off by 500

quiet tusk
#

Meant 25* but i could be off by a year

limpid meadow
#

2552 is when the original trilogy was set

woven plaza
#

wait no hang on

limpid meadow
#

Yep yep

woven plaza
#

fairly early on in the year too

limpid meadow
#

Early-ish, yeah. April of '59

woven plaza
limpid meadow
#

Yep

woven plaza
#

i also notice the hunt the truth thing, which uh, makes the timeline confusing

humble yacht
#

not really?

woven plaza
#

oh wait nvm yeah

#

"Boren misspoke the date" missed that

humble yacht
#

a year is a long time for events to occur

#

but also yes, canonically someone snafu-ed and spoke the wrong date

woven plaza
#

so she said it in 2560 or 2558

#

er

#

she said it in 2558, but she said 2560

#

right?

humble yacht
#

halopedia has dates for everything, my guy

limpid meadow
#

Correct. She said 2560, she meant 2558

woven plaza
#

ok

limpid meadow
#

There was a communique released on the Hunt the Truth website after that commercial went live, explaining the discrepancy

woven plaza
#

"In retaliation for the mistake, Boren was immediately reassigned to the Industries Discourse Management department on BXR-730, a remote mining colony. There, she was given a non-public-facing job, and is also required to have her work reviewed on a weekly basis by a member of Sullivan's general staff."

limpid meadow
#

I love that there's a mining company call BXR

woven plaza
#

kinda random question but what is 031 Exuberant Witness doing

#

is she literally just floating around on the UNSC Infinity

limpid meadow
#

Witness remains on Genesis, if I recall correctly

woven plaza
#

"Following these events, Exuberant was permitted to come aboard the UNSC Infinity and to assist with providing commentary to Spartans in War Games simulations.[5]"

#

dang they let just about anyone onto the Infinity

limpid meadow
#

That's speculation on Halopedia's part

woven plaza
limpid meadow
#

We don't really know where the Voices of War pack stands as canon.

#

In Halo: Bad Blood however, it's clear that Exuberant was left on Genesis.

humble yacht
#

it's important to remember that while a great resource, Halopedia is community run and people fill in some blanks on their own

limpid meadow
#

Big time.

humble yacht
#

always check the citations for a halopedia article

limpid meadow
#

I use Halopedia on the daily, but I always have to doubt check certain things, simply because different people will have different interpretations.

humble yacht
#

some things like dates and places of events can be easily trusted since it's just copy-pasting info

woven plaza
#

at the very least i can believe Buck doing some commentary

#

that seems like something that would occur

limpid meadow
#

I would think it more likely that AI were able to generate a sort of "impression" of Buck, Exuberant, and Yabda, than they actually sat down and recorded lines and what-not.

woven plaza
#

i mean admittedly i'm filling in the gap here obviously they can't do live commetary in h5g wargames, but in-universe i can see it happening

gilded mason
woven plaza
#

this is ONI she got off lucky

#

actually oni retaliation lets see

gilded mason
#

Yeah, but it's still funny when this kinda stuff happens, and some fans still say that they're not evil/just doing "the hard tasks", when there's such petty stuff like this on display

woven plaza
#

"Unlike conventional prisons, the purpose of Midnight Facility is to make high asset prisoners "disappear"."

#

demoted to some desk buearacrat on some mining world is probably not the worst thing that ONI can do

gilded mason
#

Definitely not.

#

I'm just sayin' it was an extreme overreaction that showcases how flawed thinking that they only have good intentions is.

woven plaza
#

then again Magnusson let (the future) Covenant Supreme Leader Jul M'dama (who only got on onyx thanks to Kilo-Five (who were busy arming anti-Swords of Sanghelios factions)) go so

#

compared to an off-by-two error, hmm

#

yeah still think she got off relatively easy

gilded mason
#

It wasn't the worst they could have done to her, yes.

ocean matrix
#

Just out of curiosity, I find it odd the UNSC is willing to use AI after the whole Genesis thing, even more so trust Roland with the Infinity, but I suppose if he were going to join the Created he would have done so on when the offer came up.

gilded mason
#

They aren't. By the time of Shadows of Reach, the UNSC is only using Dumb AI.

humble yacht
#

Roland isn’t even mentioned in SoR

#

Poor guy. What did they do with him?

gilded mason
#

Don't worry.

#

He went to a very nice farm.

grizzled bough
#

me who doesnt understand halo lore and only plays to shoot aliens 😶

woven plaza
#

Not even Black-Box is safe from scrutiny

fallow hatch
#

yo but why is the lance of suban energy sword unironically the coolest sword lore-wise
a needler-energy sword is straight up such a cool idea

scarlet quiver
#

Fo sho

lavish scaffold
#

So seeing a halo 5 swords of sanghelios dialogue video I heard an elite talk about a blade that the Jul mdama troops use. That don't kill but injure forever so that the noble elites will commit suicide. Can someone please confirm if this is true in lore?

gilded mason
#

It was that the blade is less hot so it doesn't cauterize as well, making the wound potentially worse.

lavish scaffold
gilded mason
#

It's not called anything, their blades are just not as hot.

lavish scaffold
#

Oh I thought it was just an energy sword type

gilded mason
#

Nope

lavish scaffold
#

Elites lay eggs

#

And elites can't know who their father is I believe

gilded mason
#

What about it

lavish scaffold
#

Fun fact I guess

gilded mason
#

And less "they can't know" and more "This is what certain Sangheili cultures do"

humble yacht
#

Any blade capable of cutting by heat alone is gonna cauterize instantly anyway

fair hazel
#

Actual cauterization requires a certain temperature, not all

humble yacht
#

Im talking about a temp high enough to cut by heat alone

#

Which is what energy swords are

fair hazel
#

if it's too high then it can not cautherize

humble yacht
#

It’s different if let’s say you have a red hot sword which has an edge

frigid tiger
#

hi, i have a question. might not be the perfect channel to ask, but i'll try:
i currently work on an ODST cosplay, ONI ODST to be exactly. Which means i have to make an helmet that looks like the Mjolnir Mark VI "Recon" model. Found a file, but now i've heard that there are some minor changes between the Recon Helmet for Spartans and the ones for ONI ODSTS, which makes sense, since the ODSTS armor doesn't require the ability to work with shielding systems like it does for Spartans.
But now, i carefully looked at both, Dares Helmet and H3's Recon Helmet in the customization menu in the MCC, and i can't find any difference. Does anyone know, or can spot a difference between the Mark VI Recon and the ONI ODST Recon Model?

humble yacht
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The ONI model has the person’s name on it

frigid tiger
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good catch lol

woven plaza
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honestly i assume that they just reused the Recon helmet from regular H3

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easier to say the differences are internal

fair hazel
gilded imp
fair hazel
gilded imp
opal hazel
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I'm a little rusty on my lore

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how did the Flood begin?

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just wondering

obsidian magnet
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Guilty Spark and the other monitors were hungry, so the Forerunners bought them Popcorn. Turns out, it’s a bunch of parasitic infections NOT food.

opal hazel
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you had me until "popcorn"

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how many Halos have been accounted for?

craggy sierra
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Just about all of them I think.

safe inlet
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all the ones we know of

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i believe

opal hazel
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like....7?

gilded mason
opal hazel
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yes

gilded mason
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4

opal hazel
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ok

safe inlet
gilded mason
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Nobody has been to 01, 02, or 06

safe inlet
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hang on no

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precursors

main rivet
safe inlet
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always get the two mixed up

opal hazel
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understandable

main rivet
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(But really there's not really a point in discovering more rings at this point heh.)

safe inlet
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exploration and tech hunting

opal hazel
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but the covenant, they hunt the artifacts of the forerunners, right?

safe inlet
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same reason today people want to go to mars i suppose (not the tech bit)

gilded mason
safe inlet
opal hazel
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I've been reading Fall or Reach and was curious

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of*

safe inlet
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i didn't even notice you put or until i read that correction lol

red lotus
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im bad at lore

stable flower
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So the Commando is a CMA weapon. That's cool.

cunning jetty
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guys I have a question, halo 4 and 5 will still be cannon to the story of infinite or it's going to get scrapped ?

carmine sleet
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Halo 4 and 5 are still canon. Infinite is a sequel to Halo 5 and they even talked about Cortana being rogue during the campaign footage shown at E3 this year

cunning jetty
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thanks fam

south matrix
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Is Atriox based from Genghis Khan

woven plaza
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offhand I can only say loosely

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he can definitely be classified as "pragmatic military leader"

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and it's the pragmatic part of that, that makes Atriox so dangerous

cobalt quiver
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if elites are space samurai, are brutes space vikings?

gilded mason
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Elites are not space samurai, they're more space knights

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Or, space vikings, actually

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Brutes are more barbarians with roman influence

last anchor
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Space Monkie

craggy sierra
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Elites are certified not weeabo

last anchor
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Too honorabu for it XD

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But yeah, I'd say they're closer to old school chivarlious knights with a bit of apex predator

lavish scaffold
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Who made the precursors

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Is there some sort of universal being or they just popped and here they are

tacit charm
novel barn
novel barn
obsidian thistle
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They were at that point considered the pinnacle of technological advancement

gaunt smelt
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Why didnt forerunners use composer on flood

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Flood is organic

obsidian thistle
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The Composer wouldnt work.

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At least thats how I viewed it

kindred lynx
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Is zeta halo being glassed in some parts cannon?

novel barn
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Idk

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From the looks of the ring it's not

humble yacht
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The covenant haven’t been to zeta

novel barn
unique rune
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They maintain several CCS-class battlecruisers in their fleet, so, yes.

lavish scaffold
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Red bean

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Bean

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Beam

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Banished

novel barn
fair hazel
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The banished tune their weapons a specific way. But a lot of ships have a type of glassing beam. If they have a ship, and it has a type of glassing beam on that ship then yes

lavish scaffold
fair hazel
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Probably the banished themselves who tuned the weapons

novel barn
last anchor
red lotus
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lol

craggy sierra
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Cause the composer isn't just a disintegration beam...unless it has a setting for that.

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It absorbs consciousness and uploads it to the domain or maybe just yeets it into the composer's abyss which may or may not be a sub-section of the domain still or something

potent sky
humble yacht
shrewd moon
carmine sleet
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How come I got tagged 3 times?

shrewd moon
carmine sleet
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Ok, still didn't need to tag me

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And the statement that Halo 5 had no story makes no sense since it did have one, just not a very good one

shrewd moon
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Oh yea sorry I new to discord

carmine sleet
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Also the artstyle changes between different games don't suddenly mean one game is canon and another isn't

shrewd moon
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I'm still learning how to use discord

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I thought I deleted them because I made mistakes

shrewd moon
carmine sleet
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Again didn't need to tag me

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That was because of the artstyle change and the design from Halo 3 wouldn't fit a level the size of the first level of Halo 4 into it, the ship still canonically looks like how it did in Halo 3

gaunt oakBOT
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To disable the ping/tag when replying, please click or tap the "on" button at the right hand side of the chat box in order to turn it off.

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shrewd moon
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and the armor they did not have Nanobots during the human-Covenant war

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and how did the have Nanobots kept master chief scar on his helmet

carmine sleet
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On his helmet? The damage was on his chestplate

shrewd moon
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My bad on his chestplate

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that was mandela effect

wispy wasp
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You can also point out how there was a different model of the br on the foward into dawn

silk apex
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I've have a question I can't find the answer to. Does anyone know if Thel Vadam and his Elite faction have any relation with Atriox and the Banished?

humble yacht
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They don’t

gilded mason
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I imagine they engage in battle sometimes

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But that'd be it, really

humble yacht
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Possibly. Nothing we’ve seen or read about

silk apex
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Was just curious since I was replaying Halo Wars 2 and was like wait, if the Arbiter managed to successfully fight the covenant, and Atriox did too, where was he during Halo 2 and why didn't they ever communicate?

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Rip. Hopefully they expand more on it in Halo Infinite (or heck, I'd buy a book if they expanded on it in it)

lavish scaffold
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Wasn't atriox just serving the covies during h2?

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Or when did he split

gilded mason
silk apex
humble yacht
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The banished didn’t really fight the covenant

lavish scaffold
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Yeah nothing major

gilded mason
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And also, they have wildly different ideologies.

humble yacht
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They took pot shots and ran away

lavish scaffold
gilded mason
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Wildly

silk apex
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Wildly

humble yacht
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The elites made up like half of the total covenant

wispy wasp
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Didn't the brutes and elites like never really get along either?

humble yacht
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When the schism happened it split the covenant in half, pretty much

brazen grail
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The Banished were around about 10 years before the schism

lavish scaffold
wispy wasp
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Emphasis on some

gilded mason
lavish scaffold
brazen grail
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An entire species isn't going to hold one single sentiment on anything. So there were surely some that got along.

gilded mason
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^

silk apex
brazen grail
lavish scaffold
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And dhsjdjdbjd jolloobfb

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Thel vadam is the only normal elite name imo

silk apex
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I forgot that Brutes name but I remember there was a Brute Chieftain that met with Thel and tried having peace talks with Lord Hood and the UNSC Infinity watching over as mediators

brazen grail
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Lydus

silk apex
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So if Lydus wanted peace, I'm sure there's at least one other brute faction that wants peace too

silk apex
lavish scaffold
gilded mason
humble grove
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Hm

frigid tiger
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jo, is it correct that a Brute Chieftain can propose a serious threat to a spartan II?

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in the book i mean

humble yacht
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Yes

gilded mason
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Anyone can pose a serious threat to Spartans with the right weaponry and context.

frigid tiger
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just a open 1v1

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i wonder how much you would have to adjust reachs firefight to get the fight as realistic as possible

gilded mason
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1 or 2 plasma bolts would kill you, and a burst or two of UNSC weapons kill ya

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On average

frigid tiger
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that makes sense. but what about spartans?

humble yacht
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Plasma is very effective against mjolnir

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Burns right through

frigid tiger
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mmh

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so legendary it is

gilded mason
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Not exactly

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Since UNSC weapons are also really good in canon

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Not as good, but still good

frigid tiger
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yeah which means that i have to pump up Spartan damage

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maybe up to 150% or 200%?

gilded mason
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I've no clue

frigid tiger
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i can imagine meele damage aswell, i heard spartan IIs can bench press tanks

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and movement speed maybe 120%

humble yacht
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Don’t know about benching tanks

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They can roll tanks back over if they need

frigid tiger
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well close enough

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they can lift tanks

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imagine one punches you in the face.

gilded mason
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It'd just give you a nose bleed.

frigid tiger
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we need a GIF of tartarus saying "are you sure?"

gilded mason
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Don't worry, it's canon ;)

frigid tiger
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well, i ordered The fall of reach for my birthday

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so i'll see

gilded mason
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It was from a different book

frigid tiger
#

what was from a different book?

gilded mason
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The punch = nosebleed thing

frigid tiger
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you are telling me genetically enhanced humans in powerarmor who can flip over tanks won't ruin your face? something doesnt add up here ...

gilded mason
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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(Though the spartan was wearing semi-powered armor at the time. Not that it makes much of a difference)

frigid tiger
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well there is this famous story of chief killing a bunch of ODSTs in a boxing ring when he was a teen. So there is still something wrong

gilded mason
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Anyway, the context:
||Lucy, an SIII, punches Halsey, an old women, in anger with all of her strength. It just gives Halsey a nosebleed.||

frigid tiger
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i am calm

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WHAT KIND OF SORCERY IS THIS?

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i mean, ok it's not a SII, but it's still a Spartan. what am i missing?

gilded mason
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The writer in question wrote other questionable or not-that-good things as well, so it's kinda just par for the course.

frigid tiger
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there are indeed some thing the writers messed up

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like, look what they did to my boy Rookie 😦

unique rune
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Killing a complete non-character like the Rookie was to the benefit of the rest of Alpha-Nine's characterization

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You want wasted deaths, Black Team is right over there in the corpse pile.

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Or, y'know, Sgt. Johnson and Cmdr. Miranda Keyes in Halo 3 in a half-hearted meaningless attempt to raise the stakes or whatever

ornate hinge
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did the UNSC only sent one single frigade in the battle of the ark?

inland axle
south matrix
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What are the things we could learn from Atriox's character?

unique rune
ornate hinge
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damn

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so basically, the UNSC-SOS Allied forces won with a bunch of pelicans, few hornets, 5 or more tanks, some warthogs and some green phantoms (on ground)

unique rune
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Well, on the end of the UNSC's contributions, yes.

The full extent of what the Fleet of Retribution committed to battling Truth's Covenant doesn't seem to be quite clear.

opal hazel
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is there a reading order I should go by with the Halo graphic novels and books?

humble yacht
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No

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But depending on what you want to read or learn about, there are certain starting points

opal hazel
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ok

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mainly John's story

humble yacht
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Could start with the Nylund trilogy or the Master Chief Story books

opal hazel
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ok thanks

ornate hinge
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when the dawn arrives at the ark, its drops few pelicans, and we see that the hangar doors are empty, so the dropships can be dropped, right after we see the same frigade dropping vehicles using the same spots, but this time there are some doors

ornate hinge
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pretty sure they only sent the dawn, unless there is evidence of other ships

woven plaza
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i mean they could've offed one and it still would've had an impact why waste all of black team

terse lava
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To show how deadly the didact is. We have seen covenant soldiers pick off Spartans, but not an entire team of SII at once

ivory crow
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Maybe a dumb question, but why were the covenant on the Pillar of Autumn (specifically the final level of CE) even after they captured Keyes and the rest of the UNSC forces? Were they there to try and gather intel or just like scavenging?

terse lava
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They were guarding it in an attempt to prevent the humans from gathering any resources(didn't work well)

ivory crow
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Got it, that makes sense. I wonder why they didn’t just destroy it.

terse lava
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Its stuck on a halo, they would risk damage to the ringworm. The only reason the ship even landed was that one of the San'Shyuum stationed on the fleet, ordered they hold their fire. He demanded they use boarding parties, for fear of damaging halo. Thel 'Vadamee ended up overriding that order once he realized the ship was attempting to land.

ivory crow
#

That makes a lot more sense. Thank you for the info!

terse lava
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Welcome

obsidian magnet
#

What’s funny on Two Betrayals was my young-self thought that Cortana and 343 were the ones that betrayed you. But really, it was Chief and Cortana betraying 343 who then betrays them

last anchor
stable flower
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It's a Travissty!

humble yacht
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Well the forerunner trilogy is unBearable

stable flower
versed helm
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spartan 2

woven plaza
#

the current, still operational S-II teams are: Blue Team, Red Team, Gray Team, and Omega Team, right? 13 Spartan-IIs?

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And with Omega Team, in the phoenix logs what they're up to is 'unknown' right

fair hazel
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Naomi, 14. Those are the seemingly active. Well do we count maria? What about the other washouts

obsidian thistle
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Maria is in the reserves

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A seldom said fact xD

fair hazel
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Yeah the thing is some of those spartans are not active active combatants but serve certain other roles so it’s like. Do you count them or no

versed helm
#

Am I aloud to discuss what chief's suit does

gilded mason
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If you're thinking about what I think you are, it doesn't actually do that.

versed helm
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lol

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when did that start

gilded mason
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A guy on twitter

versed helm
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when

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not where

gilded mason
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Ah, no idea

versed helm
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huh

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Is it an old joke or a recent one?

gilded mason
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But it's a bit annoying how many people don't fact-check it

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Old joke

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Several years old, at least

versed helm
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wait, people actually think it does?

gilded mason
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Yeah

versed helm
#

WHY?!!!

gilded mason
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I have no idea

versed helm
#

wow

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It's real to me

unique rune
# versed helm WHY?!!!

Your expectations of the Halo community are a lot higher than they should be.

Though it doesn’t help that there was a reasonably convincing faked book page that started circulating some time back.

grizzled bough
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Does anyone know what this gun is? I found it in some Emile concept art (left) and in a Emile wallpaper (right)

ancient void
#

How does the UNSC loose Reach to the Covernant?

strong valve
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Don’t know

gilded mason
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By having less resources and less powerful tech at their disposal

unique rune
#

The Covenant did the shooty thing more betterer

grizzled bough
unique rune
#

The one on the left is probably an earlier concept for the grenade launcher before they changed to the single-shot break action design for balancing reasons.

Visually not too dissimilar from the XM510 from Halo Wars and other revolver-style launchers.

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Can’t make out any details on whatever the one on the right is so I’ve no idea.

humble yacht
#

heatwave confirmed to be a forerunner weapon

stable flower
versed helm
#

i’ve always wondered about how the precursors lost to the forerunners

humble yacht
#

well, basically they let it happen

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they were somewhat interested in experiencing what it'd be like to go extinct

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but not really because they can basically will themselves into existence again

viscid trout
#

The ultimate mood

exotic prairie
#

is there a board or something ?

red kite
#

Anybody else really really want cortana to just stay dead?

gilded mason
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Most people, I imagine.

red kite
#

I just want her to never be seen again

visual hare
#

I always liked her for some reason.

humble yacht
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Same

visual hare
#

So, what happened to Jun?

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In reach.

gilded mason
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Left and went on to be a headhunter for SIVs

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As in, scouted new ones out.

humble yacht
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Considering headhunter has a different meaning in halo, not the best term

gilded mason
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Yeah, that's why I clarified

visual hare
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Hmm.