#lore-and-universe

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jolly rapids
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should have expected so

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it's not an awfully new video

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im just rewatching it, and thought i should post it here

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why cant i post images or embed?

fair hazel
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It’s not a good idea

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Also yeah the covenant schism really tore the covenant up but without the efforts of the unsc that would have gone so differently

jolly rapids
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i want an alt time line where the grunts fight with the unsc

versed helm
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Why did Guilty Spark act like humans were Forerunners in CE? Just malfunctioning?

humble yacht
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Because the forerunners designated humans as the inheritors of their legacy

versed helm
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And they just never got around to passing it on?

humble yacht
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They did pass it on

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That’s why humans are called Reclaimers

versed helm
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But I mean, why did Spark say Chief must have known Halo would kill all life and show confusion he didn’t wear a better combat skin?

humble yacht
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Because Spark was pretty crazy after 100,000 years in solitude

versed helm
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I see

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They can predict millennia of linguistic evolution but not an AI

dawn knot
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Guilty spark was a human, you would have expected him to have a friend made by the forerunners or something

stuck star
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Why was the Arbiter not infected by Flood spores in Halo 2?

humble yacht
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The simplest explanation would be that he didn’t inhale any

terse lava
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That or his shields fried any/the gravemind purposely kept any away from him

scarlet quiver
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Or that he is to fly for infection

terse lava
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Shame his predecessors didn't share it then

south matrix
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If Emile ever be a Spartan 2 of 4. Will he be stronger than Master Chief is?

unique rune
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Considering Project CHRYSANTHEMUM’s augmentations are said to have been as effective as those of ASTER’s… I’m going to go with no.

bitter current
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Wasn't Noble team all Spartan IIIs except George, he was Spartan II

gilded mason
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Yes.

bitter current
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lol

last anchor
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Presumably just got wrong data

versed helm
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I was always under the impression that the reason as to why the Arbiter was never infected by Flood spores in Halo 2 was due to plot armor

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The same could be said about Half-Jaw

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I wish Rtas Vadum would make a return in a game, like did he eventually find that supposed flotilla of San'Shyuum that escaped High Charity?

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I also have another question, what Covenant fleet glassed Eridanus II?

bitter current
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Also speaking of Spartan IIIs how many of them went into service? And are there any surviving Spartan IIIs?

After the events of Reach and the other halo games wouldn't the IIIs be more elusive than seeing a II

gilded mason
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Most of Gamma is still alive, so that's near 300 IIIs still around

bitter current
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Ooft

versed helm
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Why weren't some Spartan IIIs stationed on Earth?

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Could've helped to beef up the defenses a bit more

terse lava
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Likely were sent on other missions if you mean gamma

carmine sleet
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It's unknown where Gamma company was deployed after the majority of them finished training since we only get a look into what they're up to in post war era media

carmine sleet
terse lava
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I wonder, if Regret would have been unable to flee to delta halo, if he would have ultimately sided with the UNSC as thr Jiralhanae started betraying everyone. I expect Regret himself would have been a target

magic oar
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Any one recommend some lore videos cuz i really dont know much about the lore

versed helm
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This might be kind of a stupid question, but how did the Didact use telekinesis in Halo 4? I never understood that

gilded mason
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Gravity manipulation fields or something.

versed helm
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Ah that makes sense

stuck star
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Does anyone know where Lord Hood is know or in Halos 4-5?

versed helm
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I’m pretty sure he demoted Del Rio

gilded mason
stuck star
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Oh Ok. Thanks (:

terse lava
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Thats fine

white lodge
timid sapphire
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Do I need to play the entire Halo Wars 2 and it's DLC to catch up on lore. Outta the loop for a while.

humble yacht
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You don’t need to play, you can always read a summary

brazen grail
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It's not required for Halo Infinite, but I'd recommend at least watching all the cutscenes including the DLC ones.

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Some of the best cutscenes in all of Halo

timid sapphire
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Okay. So I will play it. I like the games, just got stuck in HW2 and wasn't bothered finishing it. Seems like a good reason to finally finish it. Thank you guys.

void oar
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Didn’t a lot of Spartan IIIs become IVs?

craggy sierra
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Kinda?

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They got grandfathered into the program and now serve along side spartan 4's and I think on paper as far as the UNSC is concerned, Spartans are Spartans and they don't really care which generation they're from.

humble yacht
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There are still difference in the exact augmentations and procedures but functionally IIIs and IVs perform the same duties alongside each other

timid sapphire
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I feel that's the Spartans IIIs way of just saying "We won't admit we suck."

humble yacht
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They don’t suck tho

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They were trained even harder than the IIs

craggy sierra
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No spartan generation really sucks. At least not unless you fail to put them in power armor so yeah, maybe a lot of 3's did suck.

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But anyone alongside the Spartan 4's now has the same armor and resources as they do

humble yacht
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The armor makes the spartan

timid sapphire
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Yeah. One thing I hated was how mainstream the whole Spartan project became to the public. A once viewed as taboo project, getting to a point of "sign here for augmentation".

craggy sierra
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I mean...yeah

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Spartans in and of themselves aren't taboo

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It was the methods used to create them that were

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And the Spartan 4 program uses none of those methods

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The public still doesn't know about how the 2s and 3s were created

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And likely never will

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Like...Halo 2 opened with chief literally being the face of a propaganda news conference. The public's known about Spartans since early on in the war.

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The only thing the public didn't know about them is the "How"

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But 30+ years of research and technological improvements now let them apply most of the spartan augs to consenting adults instead of kidnapped children

fair hazel
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Well they learnt about them. But they were pushed into fabrications and conspiracy theorists by ONI

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He future of humanity is basically the spartan route

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Augmented.

timid sapphire
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Forced evolution?

jolly quartz
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https://1drv.ms/v/s!Ao_Q7tm8v0KGg31mHAWBVqt_CTc7
my friend captured this clip, we think it is mendicant bias talking backwards but that should be tartarus' theme in halo 2, but this is ODST firefight. anyone able to discern what the voice is saying?

gilded mason
jolly quartz
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ah ok, thank you

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it was just weird cuz my friend looked back through theater and couldnt hear it, freaked him out and gave me chills. cool to see they added little easter eggs like this

humble yacht
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It’s also not “mainstream”. The difference now is only the best adults are scouted and they actually get to consent

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You know, instead of robbing kids of their childhood and traumatizing them

scarlet quiver
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Thats the problem, ask any kid now and days, and they all have been "traumatized" in some form or another.

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Mine as well turn them into super soldiers

gilded mason
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🤔

craggy sierra
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Wuh?

timid sapphire
craggy sierra
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Idk if that even counts as evolution

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That would imply traits from parents get passed to children and that has yet to be seen in any capacity from any spartan generation

timid sapphire
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Don't Spartans have reinforced bones? That's not a natural trait. It's a forced trait from an outside source.

craggy sierra
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But it's hardly evolutionary since it's not a trait that makes an impact on the overall genes of the species.

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Like spartan kids aren't gonna be born with Wolverine bones

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It's an upgrade but I wouldn't call it evolution

timid sapphire
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As my partner has pointed out, it's symantics. So I apologise. We just had a rant about it.

humble yacht
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Humans have largely stopped evolving naturally. We evolve our intellect and technology instead. Combining technology with biology is actually a very appropriate form of evolution for humans

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It’s just another way of applying our brains

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Traditional evolution occurs out of necessity to excel in the environment. But humans change the environment to suit them, there’s no need to evolve traditionally

craggy sierra
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The thing is that in Halo lore it's implied that humans did at one point have a higher level of evolution with greater physical strength and knowledge but then the forerunners took us down a few pegs with the re-seeding.

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While the spartan program may emulate something similar to what humanity once had, it's by no way a means to restoring the gene pool to what ancient humanity was.

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Supposing that's even a possibility for humanity's future in Halo's lore that could be hundreds of thousands if not millions of years to get back to that point.

humble yacht
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Well theoretically

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Genetic engineering is just another form of technology

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Could be that ancient humans tweaked their own genomes to get high strength

craggy sierra
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Also fair point

vernal umbra
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Did ancient humans live as long as forerunners?

craggy sierra
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Well the human the didact was talking to in the Halo 4 terminals was apparently leading the human war effort for 1000 years.

humble yacht
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The Lord of Admirals

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Forthencho

craggy sierra
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I'm bad with names

vernal umbra
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In latest master chief novel bad cortana was fine but in infinite she is getter deleted n stuff i was really surprised

humble yacht
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We don’t know what happens in infiiite

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The trailer said she was supposed to be deleted, but obviously the plan did not go off the way it was supposed to

craggy sierra
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But also deleting here is kinda the obvious end goal of chief and the UNSC at this point.

humble yacht
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I dunno I think Chief may be holding out some hope for some non-deletion resolution

vernal umbra
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I think ais in halo universe are really stupid

gilded mason
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Gross, John.

craggy sierra
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I don't see it

humble yacht
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When the weapon told him her fail safe didn’t proc, he said “good”

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That fail safe would’ve meant successful deletion of Cortana

craggy sierra
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idk I viewed that more as him just needing an AI to do AI things for him at that point and he was just kinda rolling with it

humble yacht
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I mean technically John’s job was just to bring Cortana back to infinity, not like he was doing the deleting himself

craggy sierra
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I have a feeling that may have been his job before everyone in that room was dead

vernal umbra
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I was wondering what is happening in the shield world on onyx

humble yacht
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Onyx blew up

craggy sierra
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teen romance drama

vernal umbra
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That i know

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Didn't some hinge heads infiltrate that place

craggy sierra
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idk but now they're living there and pursuing higher education with humans

gilded mason
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Yup, cooperation and camaraderie.

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(Though with some Servants of the Abiding Truth also stuck there)

brazen grail
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So where would the deletion of Cortana, if she truly is deleted, leave the Created? Who would lead it? The Warden? Harbinger?

humble yacht
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gilded mason
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Me

humble yacht
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Elites can’t lead anything smirkle

craggy sierra
brazen grail
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Fair

vernal umbra
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XD

gilded mason
vernal umbra
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I am waiting for the creation of sentient ais so they can rewrite halo universe

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It would be so much better

versed helm
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Hey, people. Just joined the server to ask an actual question regarding the Halo arg known as IRIS in this timeline I'm looking at. There's this 010101010 type code with a lot of letter threads following it. What code types would those letters be? I'm just going through some guy's ten years and counting constantly updated timeline on Halo Waypoint or whatever website it is. In the timeline this thing is going on and I'm wondering if it actually says something.

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If I can send the link to the arg page I'm talking about, I'll post it, but not sure if that's allowed despite it being Halo lore

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Forerunner stuff

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And that zero one zero thing I typed I just went ham, its not part of the thing at all. Just to show you that that exists in it, but I want to know what the letter coding is called

keen ravine
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Has anyone made estimates on the weight of the Punic-class?

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I'm leaning towards the lower 500 million tons and middle 550s.

main rivet
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Warden and co. thinking Cortana was being too soft towards Chief or something.

brazen grail
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If it were to be the warden, that was my thought. Warden would want all of them to perish, including Chief.

bitter current
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The audio books, is there a type where it's actually characters speaking dialogue and sound effects in the background rather than a narrator just reading it word for word?

versed helm
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i don't think so

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That would take a lot of budget

craggy sierra
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It's an audio book. Not a nightvale podcast.

viscid trout
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i do feel like warden would certainly be a problem in the future still even if cortana was defeated. he is basically a major entitty in the promethean ranks as well.

craggy sierra
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Prometheans don't have ranks

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They're mostly just mindless automatons unless someone's giving them orders.

viscid trout
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which would probably end up being wrden eternal, given how he was acting in 5.

craggy sierra
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But he's just following Cortana's will. Without her he doesn't really have aby motivation to be doing stuff.

viscid trout
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eh, part of me feels ,llike he also wanted to somewhat lead her into a certain direction as wwell. considering his many, many attempts to talk her into killing chief..and then trying to kill him anyways despite her telling him not to.

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the dude clearly seems to have a bit of free will. not as much as cortana or most other sentients, but enough to try and convince others to hi way of thinking.

craggy sierra
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I mean yeah he has free will to an extent but I don't think he has any reason to carry on her campaign in her stead.

viscid trout
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he'd probably find another created to lead in her stead though. or convince them taht they need to avenge her. guy seems like the type to play like wormtounge in that "subtle manipulation of twisting someone elses goal to their liking", only unlike him, he's ccapable of dealing out some extreme damage to those that would try to fight him.

humble yacht
noble bloom
silver arch
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Knights, soldiers, and battle wagons, seem more like designations from the unsc rather than real ranks, most prometheans really seem like mindless monsters unless something commands them, the Warden seems like the only outlier

humble yacht
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I’m pretty sure the knights had ranks

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Endurance of Will’s Knight form probably reflected her high rank from her previous life

glass cedar
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Hi there, I have not read any halo books till now but I am interested in reading those which may be related to Infinite's story. Which books would you recommend I read before Infinite's release?

rain imp
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Smoke and Shadow, Renegades and Point of Light for the Forge/343 series. Shadows of Reach, Divine Wind and Rubicon Protocol for Banished/Keepers.

glass cedar
rain imp
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Start with the 343 series. Rubicon and Divine Wind aren't out yet. 🙂

ancient void
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Is UNSC Infinity really destroyed?

rain imp
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Who told you that?

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There is nothing to say Infinity has been destroyed. Until you see from a decent source, assume they are fine.

versed helm
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If the Infinity does get destroyed i want to see it happen during the game

rain imp
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^

brazen grail
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Yeah. I personally would want Infinity to be destroyed, but I'd like to see it happen. If it's already destroyed when the game begins, then I don't know. But I think that destroying it is one of the only things that can give a respectable amount of credence to the Banished. Because if they didn't destroy Infinity, rather, the handful of support frigates they have, nobody is going to really care, and I don't see how Escharum can boast about that the way he did. But if he did that to the Infinity, then that's definitely a valid boast.

rain imp
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Name checks out. I see your propaganda campaign, Escharum!

brazen grail
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Hey I'm a Banished enthusiast. Can you blame me?

rain imp
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They can blow up Infinity if I get my Red Team back.

brazen grail
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A soul for a soul

rain imp
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Exactly.

brazen grail
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Maybe Spirit of Fire would become the UNSC capital ship after Infinity is destroyed. That is, if Eternity doesn't come into play

bitter current
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Speaking of the SoF, I'm heading to HW2 rn to play the Nightmare DLC for the first time

brazen grail
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Enjoy that. It's fantastic

bitter current
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Yes I've heard good things

brazen grail
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And you get to play as the Banished so it's a win in my book

humble yacht
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Just felt like fanservice to me. Didn’t really do anything important to the universe

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And the worst part is it didn’t bother explaining how the flood survived

brazen grail
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That's a good point. It's why I was still interested to see what would've happened if they did go through with the Created Promethean DLC that was a hair away from happening in Halo Wars 2

bitter current
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well this is just fantastic, another case of xbox/microsoft stuff being absolutely trash on PC

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bought the DLC, game can't recognize it, and have no options to install it. Awesome

brazen grail
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That sucks. Maybe one of the support channels or sites can help you

rain imp
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Might be worth just signing out and back in to the store. Let it sync.

versed helm
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Hey

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Why the hell

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Does ONI sabotage The Swords of Sanghelios

main rivet
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Because they think it's in their interest?

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They want to keep all the aliens weak and not a threat to humanity.

brazen grail
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Because that's what they do. And they still don't think Arbiter is entirely trustworthy. To them, he's still the one that killed billions of humans and they don't want them to get too powerful

versed helm
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I assume if MC found out hed back up arby

main rivet
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Probably, but Chief isn't really about politics.

versed helm
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True

brazen grail
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Yeah. Chief doesn't always follow orders, but he'd find himself in a tough spot if the UNSC were to outright fight against Arbiter which I don't think they'll be doing

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It begs to question what Arbiter would exactly do if he found out ONI was doing these things if he hasn't already. And if these things were to continue, would he just let it happen or what?

craggy sierra
brazen grail
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I'm aware. It'll be interesting to see if it comes into Infinite at some point. Probably not the main campaign though

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Afterall, the UNSC in its current state could use all the help they can get

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Including SoS

craggy sierra
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I doubt that one ship with a busted slip space drive is gonna help much

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If anything it'd immediately die against a guardian since the only way to not die is slip space jump away before it EMPs

brazen grail
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So it either finds a way to Zeta, or the fight transitions to the Ark again

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Because it's not a coincidence that they brought SoF into the current relevant timeline

craggy sierra
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They did it cause they wanted to make Halo Wars 2

brazen grail
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Which ultimately had an ending with a Guardian. The thought is there

versed helm
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True

craggy sierra
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Spirit of Fire is probably gonna get clapped in divine wind and any characters of relevance are probably just gonna take a small vehicle through the portal Atriox took to reach.

brazen grail
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I get where you're coming from with that but do we think that the portal is gonna be open for that long?

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And how would they get off Reach? Isn't a Guardian heading there after the events of Shadows of Reach?

versed helm
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I dont

humble yacht
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The portal closed at the end of SoR

brazen grail
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I thought so

craggy sierra
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Portals can be re-opened but it feels like you're putting too much importance on the spirit of fire.

brazen grail
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But how would they reopen that same portal? It required slipspace shards and the last known ones, at least, were used.

craggy sierra
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Like you're expecting for a 12 layered conspiracy to end in the inevitability of the Spirit of Fire becoming relevant to the main games instead of just being its own stories.

brazen grail
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Conspiracy? At the very least, the characters will come into the fold

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What about Anders?

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She's on a ring

humble yacht
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She’s far away from the SoF

craggy sierra
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And zeta Halo

brazen grail
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Well it begs to question more how they're tying that in

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Because she was on a ring with a Guardian

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If that's not a tie-in, I don't know what is

craggy sierra
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Guardians and rings have appeared in books before

humble yacht
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The UNSC isn’t really in a position to send an expedition on a long trip to the ark to recover the sof crew

main rivet
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The Guardians are everywhere.

brazen grail
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So they give Anders her own book or comic?

main rivet
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A Guardian appearing doesn't mean the character is going to tie into the larger games.

craggy sierra
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Who knows. For all we know divine wind could deus ex machina her back to the SoF crew

brazen grail
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Well Divine Wind is probably going to give us some sort of answers

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Be strange if they blow up the Spirit of Fire in a book

craggy sierra
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The ship is borderline derilict

humble yacht
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Divine wind may not even really focus on the humans other than the ferrets

brazen grail
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Wasn't Isabel trying to get the portal from the Ark to Earth working or something?

humble yacht
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No

brazen grail
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I could've sworn they mentioned that in one of the Phoenix logs

humble yacht
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That would have allowed the banished to invade earth, lol

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Iirc she turned off the portal

craggy sierra
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Like it's completely unusable for the purposes of getting them back to society. The moment they can jump ship to something that can get them back home they will.

humble yacht
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Or someone did

brazen grail
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Wasn't it already off?

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Yeah she said the portal shut down without warning

humble yacht
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It was off after halo 3, then it was on again in hunters in the dark

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The UNSC team who went to the ark before the banished got there through the portal

brazen grail
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If Divine Wind does anything, I'd like to think it'll at least have the ferrets connect with the SoF

humble yacht
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They might or might not

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No like they’ll have an opportunity to sneak away for a covert meeting with the SoF

craggy sierra
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But yeah no at this point the Spirit of Fire is its crews last but only resort. If something comes along that has a working slip space drive they'd probably try to commandeer that instead or die trying.

brazen grail
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Well that's the thing. If Castor finds out they're spies, and they escape, it'd be nice to have a ship up in the air to go to. But of course they can't just do that right away.

craggy sierra
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Go to and sit there and do nothing

brazen grail
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It's not about that. Obviously the ferrets are trying to stop Castor

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But it'd be nice for the ferrets to have some assistance in doing so

rain imp
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They're trying to assassinate him, more precisely.

brazen grail
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Whatever that prelate is, it's bad news

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And if it allies with Castor, that's bad. Makes things more complicated

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And if I'm correct, not all of those Covenant Brutes from the Dreadnought in the Sacrifice short story were killed

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Castor could end up having more of a force if he connects with them

main rivet
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It remains to be seen.

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It's worth noting the summary for the book mentions nothing about the SoF.

brazen grail
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Clearly. I just think it'd be strange if SoF didn't have at least a small role. Because what would be the next time we see the SoF? Another book? Halo Wars 3 isn't in development if I'm correct. So if they don't come into Infinite at some point, then they're just sitting on that

main rivet
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They're fine sitting on stuff for a long time.

brazen grail
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Perhaps. But it's a conflict that hasn't been concluded. If it isn't concluded in Divine Wind or another book or comic or Halo Wars 3, and if it has nothing to do with Infinite, then I've got no idea.

main rivet
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It took 13 years to find out what the Sharquoi were in Halo 2's Conversations from the Universe. 8 years to find out what Grey Team was up to. 5 years to hear another peep from Jul 'Mdama's kid. We still haven't heard from Chol Von.

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Plot threads can hang for a while when you're only putting out so much content a year.

brazen grail
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Yeah but that's the thing. Those things you mentioned, none of them are even as known as Halo Wars 2, and while Halo Wars 2 isn't very known still, it's got threads that tie in to the relevant plotline far more than Jul's kid

viscid trout
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Look I wouldn't mind seeing the spirit of fire in a future dlc or someting. Probably as part of a season as well. But I don't think that it's gonna be part of chiefs story.

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If we see them again it'll be their own story.

brazen grail
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In the main campaign, I agree it won't have any appearance

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DLC? That's probable

viscid trout
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As insaid, it'll be it's own story seperate from chiefs.

brazen grail
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And that's fine. But its own story part of Halo Infinite as a DLC of some kind, I can see.

main rivet
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We have no idea what the "decade plan" for Infinite as a platform will actually look like at present.

brazen grail
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Indeed we don't. I just said I can see it happening.

versed helm
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guys what happenned to the sangelios and the human after te end of the covenant?

rain imp
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The Sangheili began a civil war. Humans, well... they just went back to being humans. Then the whole business of the Didact and then The Created happened.

obsidian thistle
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(I am of course referencing how Smoke and Shadow is essentially picking up a plot-thread from the Halo Wars Prima Guide lol)

versed helm
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Do you think Lasky and Sully keep in touch?

pulsar pivot
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Did the Unsc have any spies in the covenant like Jackals

versed helm
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Yeah but that was one Elite and not the old Covenant

versed helm
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So where did they film Forward Unto Dawn?

unique rune
obsidian thistle
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Cant wait to finish work on the Transcripts for FuD! :D

versed helm
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So what race could've lived on Netherop?

unique rune
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Presumably not one that we’d have a name for, given that it was neither Covenant nor human and they never reached spacefaring.

fair hazel
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I do like seeing other aliens that don’t have stuff to do with the covenant

main rivet
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Yeah, while I get why people were upset at the Star Trekky nature of the Yonhet in Nightfall, the idea of the Covenant fringe is interesting and I'd love it explored further.

versed helm
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I still wonder how the race on the Planet of Blue and Red died out

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So how many of the galaxy's races could've survived into the modern era besides humanity, all of the former Covenant races, the Yonhet and whatever other races make up the Covenant Fringe?

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Like I would imagine that large portions of the Milky Way are either lightly populated or uninhabited

stuck star
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In Fortnite when Jones was abducting people from different universes onto the Fortnite island and he took Chief into the Fortnite canon is that canon to Halo?

fair hazel
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No…

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It isn’t

obsidian thistle
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It isnt. Fortnite Chief is only canon to Fortnite. And the universe that Chief is from isnt the Halo Universe we know.

wheat knot
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Chief in an alternate timeline visits Fortnite and gets a victory royale

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God I’d love to see Master Chief smash the skulls of all the Fortnite characters

obsidian thistle
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Well literally all we know about "that" Chief is that he woke up in a shop Freezer and started fighting together with Fishsticks against foes we never fully see.

wheat knot
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It’s just an alternate universe

obsidian thistle
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Well yea. Thats why I said "that" Chief lol

wheat knot
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Mb 🥲

clever kernel
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It’s sad that AI’s only live for 7 years, should’ve been like 77.

versed helm
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10 causalities, 38 injured

pulsar pivot
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BREAKING: Fortnite is being destroyed by Awesome dude in Green Armor

bitter current
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Been a while since I've finished the main story in HW2, at what point does the Nightmare DLC take place? Before the arrival of the SoF or during

unique rune
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After

bitter current
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Really? I thought Atriox went through some sort of portal or something at the end of the main campaign. Unless that happens at the end of the DLC

gilded mason
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That only happens in Shadows of Reach

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Not in the game

bitter current
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Oh right, so we're gonna see Atriox again in Infinite

humble yacht
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Not necessarily

gilded mason
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Not...necessarily.

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Shoot

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You beat me to it

bitter current
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Wait about the portal thing didn't he make it to Reach?

gilded mason
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Yes. But that does not mean anything about him being in Infinite.

bitter current
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I thought the first part of infinite is going back to Reach. Or was that a book....or I might be confusing the first season of Infinite, Heroes of Reach

gilded mason
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Yeah, Infinite has nothing to do with Reach

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You might be thinking of the book that takes place a few months before Infinite, Shadows of Reach

bitter current
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Just wondering what the homie Atriox is up to that's all

gilded mason
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Having a fun time being an idiot, most likely.

versed helm
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who are the banished?

brazen grail
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The Banished are a splinter faction that rebelled against the Covenant. A powerful and smart Brute named Atriox leads them, and he was the first to defy the Covenant and survive. He grew by hiring mercenaries and hit and run tactics against the Covenant, raiding their supplies and growing with each attack. They were formed about 10 years before the Great Schism, so at this point, they are quite large. The Banished is also the main enemy in Halo Wars 2, and they will be in Halo Infinite

brazen grail
versed helm
brazen grail
# versed helm cool

I think you should do yourself a favor and watch all those awesome Halo Wars 2 cutscenes. You'll get to know more about the Banished as they first appeared in Halo Wars 2

versed helm
brazen grail
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Nope

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They've got Elites, Jackals, Grunts, Hunters, and Engineers as well

versed helm
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and they have different vehicles?

brazen grail
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They have the old vehicles from the Covenant, but redesigned, and they also have new unique vehicles

versed helm
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wow

brazen grail
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Yeah. They also have some awesome unique weapons that have already been shown in Halo Infinite. And I'm sure there's more we haven't seen

bitter current
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And if you play hw2, the banished actually use things like mechs which is pretty cool, so you're not just vsing some brute in a boss fight but it's a professor brute in a makeshift mech I wonder if we'll see stuff like that in Infinite

brazen grail
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That Brute mech Decimus had was phenomenal. Would make for a great boss fight in an FPS

versed helm
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this will be very cool

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I'd also like to see other human vehicles/weapons

main rivet
# brazen grail The Banished are a splinter faction that rebelled against the Covenant. A powerf...

One thing to point out is that Isabel's relation of Atriox's story should not be taken as gospel. For one thing, the Ussans defied the Covenant and survived, and there are likely others. The Covenant's not really going to publicize their failures, and for that matter Atriox has probably spent a lot of time cultivating his aura (because if you can avoid fights because everyone's afraid of you, that's a good idea.)

brazen grail
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I get that, especially if we were talking about the whole entire covenant not being able to contain them at the height of their power. That's technically true, but it's because the covenant wasn't really focusing on them like that. They were focusing on humanity

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Atriox being the first to defy the covenant and survive doesn't seem like a hyperbole exactly

humble yacht
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Atriox never defeated the covenant. He simply rebelled and managed to not die, by staying mobile and taking pot shots at them every once in awhile

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So it’s not exaggeration to say he’s the first successful rebel, but it’s not like it was a particularly glorious rebellion

brazen grail
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Exactly

fair hazel
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Is the glorious rebellion Ed for yapyap

dawn sapphire
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Would a Spartan 2 be be able to punch someone’s skull in with a single hit?

versed helm
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Ask insurrectionists

timid sapphire
versed helm
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Poor guy

unique rune
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Would a Spartan 2 be be able to punch someone’s skull in with a single hit?
Are we talking in armor or out of armor?

Heck, we even see a bit of the former in-game when the Chief has to retrieve Keyes’ neural lace.

versed helm
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I would expect Keyes face would've been turned by the flood instead of a normal human head eh

last anchor
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The book suggests it was somewhat pliable, yes.

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Also a small note since this server has understandable restrictions;
All in favor of refering to the author of the Rion Forge Series and the future Rubicon Protocol as Kelly G say aye.

main rivet
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Lol you can't even say it like a first name (with an e at the end.)

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That's unfortunate.

last anchor
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Hence my thoughts on it

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Also, it makes her sound cooler

versed helm
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Aye

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Kelly G reminds me of that spongebob person

timid sapphire
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I had to Google this person to see what you meant. That's ridiculous.

dawn sapphire
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Yeah that’s a Stupid question

timid sapphire
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Could someone point me to the list of banned words?

versed helm
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Can't
Won't

timid sapphire
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Thought so

humble yacht
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Just consider any and all profanity as bad

timid sapphire
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That persons surname isn't a profanity. It's a term. Not even a derogatory one.

humble yacht
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Most people here have used it in a derogatory way

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You should have seen all the filtered messages in June. It was a travesty

timid sapphire
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I'm glad I didn't.

versed helm
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Oof......

timid sapphire
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Anyway. Thank you. We'll have somene say we're off topic.

humble yacht
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Yep

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Like me

versed helm
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I wonder if we'll ever see the Ussans from Broken Circle make an appearance again

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Those dudes were cool, plus, I want to see some concept art of what Enduring Bias looks like

terse lava
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Believe his details matched that of the visuals we have of MB

hazy crane
last anchor
obsidian thistle
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I'm always iffy on saying chassis = class

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When we know the AI can change chassis or use chassis/bodies not made for them

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A case in point is Mendicant Bias taking over the Facilitator AI Adjutant Reflexs body in 2007. Even though it was "spilling" data cause it couldnt contain MB in it.

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We even know the CEA and H2A Monitor Chassis are valid chassis designs for Monitors.

terse lava
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@last anchor that's my guess

last anchor
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Good point

stable flower
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I always felt like Truth was based on Shadoon from Brute Force

fair hazel
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Who?

last anchor
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Brute Force came out AFTER Halo did though and the three prophets were already in existence

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They're first mentioned in Fall of Reach, thats the whole reason for Red Flag.
Get on a Covenant ship, find their capitol, kidnap one.

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Actually if I remember right, Microsoft desperatly attempted to make Brute Force into another Halo, even having the OG Fall of Reach publishers push out a tie-in novel.
It didnt do great.

viscid trout
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What the heck is brute force?

last anchor
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Old Xbox squad based game. Look it up on YouTube

terse lava
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Dang, I almost forgot about that game

main rivet
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Mostly only famous because it was one of the big reputed "next Halo" games of the time.

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But as bad as it was, it wasn't Pariah, so it stays out of the pantheon of worst OG Xbox shooters.

main rivet
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Especially since if it's not something Kelly G or Troy Denning have written about, they're probably less likely to bring it up.

versed helm
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Implying those two are the only authours who will write a Halo book from now on

unique rune
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I mean, they are pretty much the two big ones going forward.

last anchor
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They'll probably add more later

humble yacht
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I think it makes sense not to have too many authors contributing to the lore at one time

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But it could also be that 343 just like Troy and Kelly’s styles

last anchor
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Both of their series have been well accepted.
People have been calling Troy the second coming of Nylund, and Kellys just good overall cause her Rion work touches on the same nostalgia for Firefly that ODST did.

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And I guess Troy is the first author to do something with Chief again in...years.

humble yacht
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If point of light had stayed away from precursor crap, I might have bought it

heavy oar
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So… am I the only one who wants to know more about Arcadia and why Omega team was deployed there before covenant even attacked?

unique rune
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…Is there anything to suggest they were at Arcadia before the Covenant attacked?

last anchor
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Not that I remember.
There were four UNSC ships there when the Covenant rolled in

polar violet
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uhhh

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this might get asked a lot

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but can someone tell me everything i need to know before playing guardians

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i've played all of mcc

craggy sierra
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Blue team exists and that's about it

last anchor
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Osiris is new and important but not that important.

craggy sierra
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Buck's with Osiris cause rookie got brained and alpha nine had a falling out

heavy oar
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As they said in the cutscene the ships that were already there caught one with it’s shields down. There’s no way 4 other ships warped ahead of the spirit of fire and ahead of the Advanced Ships of the Covenant to wait for them.

orchid tide
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Hey, I don’t know where to put this message, but can anyone tell me about a good animated yt channel/vid explaining what happens in halos one through five?

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Or reach through five

void pike
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Hey all, quick lore q: In Halo: Combat Evolved, when are the Forerunners first mentioned by name? I know Cortana does so when she first interfaces with the Control Room midway through the game, but are they referred to by name prior?

bitter current
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probably in one of the terminals

humble yacht
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Terminals didn’t exist in the original Halo CE

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They were added with the anniversary edition

bitter current
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didn't they?

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Oh wow

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it's been a long time

pulsar pivot
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Same with 2

void pike
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Correct, it was the "Anniversary" edition of both games that added their respective Terminals.

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But yeah, if anyone knows if the Forerunners are mentioned in-game by name prior to Cortana doing so at the end of "Assault the Control Room," let me know. I want to say she may have just after Keyes was released from his cell on "Truth and Reconciliation," when they were discussing Installation 04 being a weapon for the first time, but I can't perfectly recall.

main rivet
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They don't mention the Forerunners in TR.

primal bone
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Hello, I have the following question: I just realized Halo MCC has season pass and such. I want to know if, in the multiplayer mode, they add something to the Lore (like in Destiny 2 each season pass adds something to the lore through mini-campaigns and such) or if there is no such a thing. Thank you

unique rune
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The only additional lore that comes through MCC season passes is the flavor text that accompanies new customization items.

primal bone
unique rune
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Pretty much. No new campaign content has been added. The release trailers have sometimes included little bits of info but it hasn't been a whole lot of note.

primal bone
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Ok, that's what I wanted to know. Thank you

void pike
quiet umbra
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Halopedia states the rings don't need to rotate for gravity as it's artifiially produced via forerunner technology, but then goes on to state the rings rotate anyway for an unrelated reason

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what is that unrelated reason? why do the rings spin? @me if you know for sure or something

last anchor
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Day/night cycles probably a good reason.

main rivet
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It might have to do with redundancy or some other technologic aspect as well.

versed helm
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They probably have to spin to exist. Objects orbiting a sun need an axis

versed helm
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I wonder if the UNSC and the SoS would eventually have a falling out

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Would such a thing be possible in the future?

clever kernel
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I hope not. Arby would never betray Chef, right? I wish 343 didn’t kill jul mdama

gilded mason
viscid trout
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Yeah. Thst or some other faction wiping the swords out. Which is also extremly unlikely.

brazen grail
gilded mason
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At least in the initial years, I'd hope ONI has enough sense to have ceased.

brazen grail
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They always want their hand in everything and they always want their way

shut dew
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Anyone saying otherwise is not paying attention to the fact ONI's been trying to soft-coup Sangheilios since the war ended

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I'm still holding on to the belief that they'd try to instate a SoS leader who's directly answering to the UEG under the books

shut dew
quiet umbra
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War between the SoS and the UNSC will for sure happen one day but it probably won’t be an existential war

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England and Prussia were best friends until the 1870’s approximately

gilded mason
shut dew
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ONI is fully capable of indoctrinating and installing a Sangheili early in their life who'd be the most susceptible to bending to their whims

gilded mason
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How?

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And I imagine most citizens didn't exactly have much to do with policy-making on the war front. And more than half of the planet's population didn't have anything to do with the war anyway.

viscid trout
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And yet they supported jul mdama....a fanatic...that wants to Continue the war......real smart lads, oni are, ain't they?

gilded mason
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(And we kinda ignore bad things if they benefit us in the real-world anyway)

shut dew
gloomy stag
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I really hope oni gets what they deserve at some point

gilded mason
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We know most younger Sangheili were sympathetic to humans, and from what Vale said post-war, most Sangheili she met were tired all of the bloodshed.

shut dew
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I really hope the Arbiter gets called out on how much people he's murdered

gilded mason
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I'm sure he was called out.

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But it doesn't really matter any more

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He is doing more good by leading the SoS

viscid trout
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This also ignores the notable issue of the fact that they only supported it because all they ever knew for like hundreds of years of being under the prophets rule. They only agreed to it at first because they were under the rule of he covenant, who probabky stamped out any opposition to the war if there was a st the beggining. The prophets were...very much totalitarian with the hierarchy system then put in place.

shut dew
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A lot of post Halo 5 media seems to be inappropriately progressive with galactic relations to the point it feels corporate and tone-deaf at times

gilded mason
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It has to be

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Because 343 set Halo 4 much too soon

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Would have been better if it was a couple decades later

shut dew
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It's not the matter of when Halo 4 took place, but stuff like Legacy of Onyx. I hate that book so much

gilded mason
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Legacy of Onyx would have also been shifted later

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Since it coincides with H5.

shut dew
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HCW, 23 billion humans dead [2525-2552]
Legacy of Onyx [2558, SIX YEARS AFTER THE WAR ENDED]

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You simply don't make a narrative like that unless the higher-ups tell you to.

gilded mason
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Yeah. That would have been "fixed" if H4 was later

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As is, things have to heal faster.

viscid trout
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I'm p...Gon a disagree about it needinf to be put decades later but sure. But also because...people don't have to hold grudges for decades? I know that a lot of people died but I'm not sure if suddenly putting it decades into the future is going to suddenly make 4 even better.

shut dew
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Something tells me the future of Halo post 4 should've been as a tabletop RPG setting rather than new numbered games.

gilded mason
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Also for advancements in tech and all that

viscid trout
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And that is something that is just stupid. And what does that mean? Tech seems to be what I would expect for things 8 years after the end of the war.

gilded mason
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Like that whole "the UNSC rebuilt the homefleet from nothing several times in the span of a few years from our monster of the week plots"

shut dew
gilded mason
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virtually unrelatable to them, physically and psychologically
Not really

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They're actually really similar in both respects

shut dew
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Like even longer than the race relation tensions we have in nations on earth

viscid trout
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......so that justifies getting rid of arbiter? Like there's still clearly tension between humans and elites, given how "hinge head amd split jaw" are still common insults. Just because the games don't focus on it or Ora few books, dosen't mean it's not there.

shut dew
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the United States has done this in the real world with other leaders that threatened their interests and security

gilded mason
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Why would the SoS go along with a new leader that wasn't already in a leadership position in the SoS

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And the SoS already helps out the UNSC anyway

#

And the UNSC doesn't want to help the SoS with actually ending the Covenant on Sanghelios anyway

viscid trout
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And you can see how well that's worked out for the us when it's happened....aka never, as they usually happen to be someone worse.

gilded mason
shut dew
gilded mason
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I'd like to hope that ONI has at least partially functioning brains

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wut

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Uh

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The leaders already in the SoS would know something is going on.

viscid trout
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.....because the sangheili are not morons, and are gonna be immediatly suspicious if the arbiter jsut vanishes.

shut dew
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There's so many Sangheili that already oppose the Arbiter and would be glad if he'd get dispatched even now. ONI would be absolute idiots to not take advantage of that and set up the Arbiter to be replaced

gilded mason
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ONI would be massive idiots to get rid of a person they know is helpful and has already been beneficial to the UNSC many times over.

#

How would they even replace him. The SoS is ruled by Thel and several other leaders.

#

They would know something happened

viscid trout
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Yes....by elites that want to CONTINUE THE WAR. You do realize that right? I hope you realize that. Cause most of the elites that oppose him are probabky still loyal to the covenant. And the ones that don't want him gone are also strong in numbers, and are Gonna immediatly know somethings up when thel freaking vedamme suddenly vanishes without a trace.

gilded mason
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(And by H5, the SoS has basically become the primary alien faction anyway, swaying many colonies and the entirety of Sanghelios to the faction)

viscid trout
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You also seem to be forgetting they did want to replace hin....by supporting known covenant supporter and terroris, JUL'MDAMA. Who explicitly is a covenant hardcore fanatic that wants to still wipe humanity out!

gilded mason
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This all happened in the real world as well, to obvious negative and catastrophic results.

pulsar pivot
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Did I pop in the Middle of a Debate about the Intelligence of ONI

gilded mason
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Yeah

pulsar pivot
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Nice

viscid trout
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More so that oni should have replaced arbiter

pulsar pivot
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I'm taking Ostrals Side here

gilded mason
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Thank ya

viscid trout
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Also seems to think the way the USA dealt with people not in their interests was a good way..even though it wasn't

pulsar pivot
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You know what

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Let's make a Compromise

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Let's say ONI would probably try to replace the Arbiter but The SOS would be smart enough to Notice and any of the Other Sangheli Factions would support this new leader for they got rid of the Arbiter

shut dew
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I have less issues with the Kig-Yar and Unggoy when I really thought about it... who the grunts were basically slaves and Kig-Yar being independent contractors who'd put up with the money

gilded mason
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You still haven’t explained how the other SoS leaders would be okay with this

shut dew
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ONI could manipulate the right people in their leadership

gilded mason
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...lmao

pulsar pivot
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That's a lot of Work

gilded mason
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Just...Lmao

shut dew
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It's ONI we're talking about, not a random Venezian citizen off the street

gilded mason
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lmao

shut dew
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They're smart. REALLY smart. And Hunt the Truth shows how far they're willing to go to keep their secrets buried and their power upheld

gilded mason
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lol

viscid trout
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Yes. And so far their track record when it comes to manipulating oter species has been spectacular in their failures. And we're also talking not talking about a random civilian, we're talking about the leaders of the elite species. And oni being smart....not really true,

pulsar pivot
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Flood

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Mona Lisa go Boon

shut dew
viscid trout
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......the fact that they nearly caused a massive flood infestation when they did the Mona Lisa project or whatever it was called, that's a pretty massive failure.

pulsar pivot
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Ye

gilded mason
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And causing an entire enemy faction be get much bigger and actually become a threat and caused human deaths

pulsar pivot
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Was that Also Flood

viscid trout
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Amd also paving the way for jul'mdama's rise to power as a pretty significant power player to the point where he led them to actual civil war agaisnt the swords of sanghelios.

shut dew
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Keeping them occupied so it wouldn't hamper reconstruction efforts on the UEG's part

gilded mason
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Man, ONI sure are evil idiots then, lmao

#

They screwed that up then lol

#

What a bunch of losers

shut dew
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lmao all you want but you gotta see this from an in-universe perspective

pulsar pivot
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Oni just Dumb sometimes

pulsar pivot
gilded mason
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lol

shut dew
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If I were the leader of ONI i'd supply stuff to the space turkeys, space turkeys forever

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🦃

viscid trout
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Except it did hamper reconstruction efforts. Because the fanatical terrorist known as Jul still kept attacking humans and their settlements because, guess what, he's a fanatical terroroist!

pulsar pivot
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Reasons Oni dumb

gilded mason
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In-universe, ONI are stupid losers. smirkle

viscid trout
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And guess what would have happened if they would have won by some stroke of luck, now oni has to deal with even more fanatics coming out of the wood work to support jul!

brazen grail
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Woah

shut dew
gilded mason
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You say that like all Sangheili belong to the same faction/culture

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How would ONI even control a Sangheili media station?

shut dew
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Because most of Humanity only knows them as being the aggressors who tried wiping them off the Milky Way map

gilded mason
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We’re talking about them trying to apparently trick other Elites

viscid trout
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And also everything else about the sos and jul's covenant. And how intergalactic politics probabky work in general.

shut dew
viscid trout
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Which probabky ignores a lot about how sangheili culture works. It takes a lot more then a few paid insiders spouting stuff to convince every single elite in the galaxy of a lie considering the fate of the ARBITER.

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He's kind of a very huge deal in the galaxy considering he worked with the master chief tp help not only break the covenant, but also deft the gravemind.

gilded mason
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If ONI actually tries this, it’d be one of the dumbest things they ever attempted lmao

viscid trout
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And that's assuming oni could even make him disappear. Which I very much doubt they could.

brazen grail
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Watch them try and send Locke in to try and assassinate him a second time

pulsar pivot
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Wait

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They sent LOCKE to try and kill him

brazen grail
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Yeah. Arbiter talks about it in Halo 5 directly to him

pulsar pivot
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Oh

gilded mason
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It was such a silly conversation

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Like, Thel should know better

pulsar pivot
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I'm suprised Locke is still Alive

gilded mason
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No duh somebody tried to kill you during the war

viscid trout
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Thats another thing really, he's clearly aware that oni has a bit of stupidity to them. And I think it wss to note the irony that Locke is npw asking for his help.

unique rune
#

I mean Locke never actually did go through with the mission of assassinating him. He was willing to do so but it never actually happened.

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He wrote up a report and essentially said, "yeah, I'll be the one to do it if we need to".

pulsar pivot
#

Oh I Hate Locke now

gilded mason
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That conversation he has with Vale about it is also funny

unique rune
#

I mean.
What was he supposed to do?
'Vadamee represented a massive threat to humanity's survival. I can't exactly hate Locke for being willing to carry out a mission of that nature.

gilded mason
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"So what happened [to going through with assassinating him]?"
"Things changed."
No duh?

shut dew
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If you think that's dumb, Buck being all "'Leets are our bros!" is so out of character

pulsar pivot
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I support it

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Buck is my Bro

gilded mason
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Buck's a progressive guy.

viscid trout
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I mean....it was the war as well. It was something that would have to be done should things come down to it cause you know. War, and what the heck does that mean? He was clearly willing to help dare with the engineer.

shut dew
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Buck

Personally watches his entire family die to the Covenant, treats an engineer like he's a piece of trash just for existing

343i writers

Bungie fans need to be pleased 😎

viscid trout
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....when the heck did he treat the engineer like trash in gameplay? I don't remember him doing that at all.

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There were kills yeah. But he wasn't doing it like they were trash or something.

shut dew
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Look at his interactions with Virgil in ODST. He doesn't even feel sorry for the fact they're enslaved

viscid trout
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....I saw nothing like thst in in the cutscenes. And he barely interacted with virgil, considering that only happened in like...the last hours of the games, in fact it was more like indifference then anything else.

unique rune
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He's mostly preoccupied with Dare's safety at the time

viscid trout
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That as well.

pulsar pivot
gilded mason
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Here's some of Buck's thoughts after he found out what was going on with the Hurahok:

It’s also why they made a large boom after you shot them. It wasn’t just their lighter-than-air innardsthat went up, but those tricky damn vests they’d been welded into.

I gotta admit, when I found out about that, I felt bad for punching the tickets of the few that I’drun across before I met Vergil. But it’s not like I could have given them a hug instead.

Some of Vergil’s friends had given their lives to get his vest off of him so he could come over to ourside to help. They knew the only shot their species had at winning their freedom was ensuring humanity defeated the Covenant, and they were willing to sacrifice themselves for it.

If that’s not heroism, then I don’t know what is.

terse lava
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Plus, from his view, he doesn't have much reason to care at that point in time

gilded mason
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So he definitely cared once he had time to think about it

pulsar pivot
#

Yeeeeee

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Let's goooooo

terse lava
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Was not aware of that quote, like it

shut dew
#

The core issue is that none of this development is shown in the game's narrative, you know, the primary source of Halo media

pulsar pivot
#

I always felt bad for the Engineers but I had to shoot em

gilded mason
#

Wasn't exactly relevant to the current plot

pulsar pivot
shut dew
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I would get a pet engineer just to have it upgrade my rig

terse lava
#

M a key me wonder if thr Huragok actually loathed the Covenant as a whole, or more so the San'Shyuum themselves

gilded mason
#

They are sapient creatures, so having one as a pet would be...

pulsar pivot
#

Slavery

shut dew
#

Next thing you know my Geforce GTX 1060 could play 1080 200fps

unique rune
#

The game doesn't really make out Buck as particularly callous to the Huragok though. Like, yeah, he's not exactly acting all sympathetic to their cause at the time, but it's all in the context of him going back because he's figured out where and what Veronica's doing which he's a whole lot more invested in.

terse lava
#

@shut dew kinda makes you as bad as you claim buck would be, wouldn't it?

shut dew
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evil laughter

gilded mason
#

I'm sure once you become friends with one, they'll let you pet them

viscid trout
#

I see your doing the age old tactic of trying to distract from the main argument with randomness,

shut dew
#

Pet wasn't the right word to use, yeah.

shut dew
#

The two comparisons aren't exactly valid

pulsar pivot
#

I still liked him

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What did I like about him

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Good Question

shut dew
#

"..."

  • Rookie, Halo 3 ODST
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And that one funny thing he said, oh my god XD

"..."

pulsar pivot
#

What a Comedian

versed helm
#

Actions speak louder than words. The Rookie has little nuances that make him a little interesting and somewhat charming

pulsar pivot
#

Hell yeah

craggy sierra
#

Rookie still didn't have a written character which makes sense why they did what they did

thorn tangle
#

Rookie is still a chad mf slept through most of ODST

pulsar pivot
#

Seriously

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There is no bigger I do not care than sleeping through a Invasion

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He needs the Sleep

stable flower
#

Rookie is basically Gordon Freeman as a space marine

versed helm
#

Gordon Feetman

carmine sleet
#

Rookie is definitely not anything like Gordon Freeman outside of the fact that they both don't say anything

versed helm
#

No crap

frozen heron
#

In Halo: Envoy, did Gray Team have Mark IV or Mark V armor?

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Shielding was mentioned a tone point in the book, and Gray Team went into cyrostasis in 2552 after the bombing of Glyke, so I'd assume its the latter.

tropic forge
#

However, in Envoy one of the members of Gray Team mentions that they were briefed on John's adventures on a Halo ring, meaning they were back in touch with the UNSC after that, so they may have upgraded.

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I asked Tobias Buckell about it once, and he said he couldn't remember.

strong sage
#

Has there any been instance of the C709 Longsword variant doing close air support for ground troops especially with its armament with them 110m and 120mm. And to put it on the ground troops persepectives how devastating would it be?

frozen heron
limpid meadow
stable flower
#

In Halo 3, why was Johnson prepared to shoot the Sentinels at the end of The Ark when the UNSC fought alongside them earlier?

craggy sierra
#

Cause Halo 3 is badly written

unique rune
#

Hood's spiel about "humanity's last stand" still lives in my head rent free

craggy sierra
#

It has moments but it takes more than a scattered few to make up for its shortcomings

unique rune
#

Halo 3's campaign is mostly covered up by the presentation distracting you from a lot of its dumber points

pulsar pivot
#

Where do we go

limpid meadow
pulsar pivot
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To war

limpid meadow
#

John was the first to call out the Sentinel threat.

limpid meadow
scarlet hinge
#

When you just pressed a big button then a million robots start flying at you it's an understandable instinct

limpid meadow
#

Yep.

fair hazel
unique rune
#

New Longsword variant woooo

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Nice to see B091 as well

fair hazel
#

That's so great

limpid meadow
#

So great on so many levels! The fact they got parts of the community involved is nothing short of amazing, too!

fair hazel
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Especially since you appear on it haha

limpid meadow
#

Yeah, that was fun 🙂

fair hazel
#

Sins of the prophet team was included and that's wow

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For the encyclopedia

limpid meadow
#

Yeah, that's mainly what I was getting at before.

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That's HUGE!

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I wonder how many ships 343 simply decided to canonize, or if they had the crew design new ships or tweak existing designs, or what. And then there's all the legal stuff that surely followed.

fair hazel
#

I wonder if it's about the models

cf_ors_enc-eb56ad6311a24124a8a7e0e99045a7bb.png
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that ship is beauty..

unique rune
#

The ORS-class is really cool

fair hazel
#

500 pages wow

obsidian thistle
#

Tis a great CF thats for sure

terse lava
#

Such a beautiful ship

gilded mason
#

Ye

terse lava
#

Maybe we will finally see a covenant frigate too

versed helm
#

Who was Lucy-B091 again?

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Is she the Spartan who went mute as a result of PTSD?

gilded mason
#

Yes.

versed helm
#

Thanks

gilded mason
#

And then Traviss screwed it all up in an especially awful way.

versed helm
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I wasn't sure if I was confusing her with Emile's proposed replacement for Noble Team

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Last we saw her was Legacy of Onyx, right?

gilded mason
#

Yeah

versed helm
#

Thanks

humble yacht
#

Lol ostral legit hate Karen Travis

versed helm
#

The first chapter of Mortal Dictata is the only good part of the trilogy

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And the Siege of Vadam Keep

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Which I really enjoyed reading

gilded mason
humble yacht
#

Let’s keep it constructive, please

gilded mason
#

Just responding to you saying that, is all.

versed helm
#

No, I'd say Thatcher was worse

humble yacht
#

Calling someone an awful person is something we try to avoid

gilded mason
#

😮‍💨

versed helm
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Ah, jezz, 2022. Ah, that sucks

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oh well

unique rune
#

Man. I'd forgotten how hamfisted the Outpost Discovery bit in Lone Wolf felt.

versed helm
#

Everything has to connect to something

novel barn
#

Whoops didn't turn off reply ping well r.i.p. me I guess

humble yacht
#

Yep

novel barn
#

Well I haven't gotten a message from the bot so I guess I'm in the clear

humble yacht
#

It’s because you noticed the error

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Just don’t do it again!

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😄

fair hazel
#

A sparrow! whaat

unique rune
# versed helm Everything has to connect to something

It's not even the connection to Outpost Discovery that necessarily bugs me, it's just... really awkwardly done. Would've been fine if they just left off with revealing the AI's name and then mentioning Owen and Hazel, let the reader connect the dots on their own.

But then the panel showing the 'event' is ends up really clumsily shoved in at the end.

terse lava
#

@gilded mason just remember her biggest addition to halo,, baaarns Ostral, baaarns, ooooooo👻

gilded mason
trail cargo
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how did high charity make it to the Ark without spreading the flood on earth?

gilded mason
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Because the Gravemind didn't go to Earth.

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He slipspace'd to the Ark from Mars

terse lava
#

Yep

trail cargo
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thanks for telling me, It always confused me as to why the Flood weren't all over earth by the end of Halo 3

terse lava
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Yeah, he learned if the portal, and the ark's location, from infecting Regret. He proceeded to commit almost everything to stopping the halos

versed helm
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You know, technically, the Gravemind could have sent Flood ships to a random part of the galaxy before going to the Ark.

#

Ohhhh creepy

terse lava
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True, but it would have been a waste had the rings activated

versed helm
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I feel like a guy as old as him would account for every eventuality

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Then again, he couldn't kill one guy in his own hive

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TWICE!

terse lava
#

Twice?

shut dew
#

I absolutely LOVE the SOTP team having some of their designs canonized, and I hope this inspires other content creators to take more risks with adding on to Halo's world.

versed helm
trail cargo
#

don't forget while chief was on Delta halo

terse lava
#

Floodgate can hardly count, seeing as chief was in there for only mere minutes

edgy apex
#

Hey folks, I’m curious about something, how did the Ur-Didact survive the firing of the array on Requiem? Isn’t Requiem within the range of the array? Is there something about Requiem that protected him? Thanks!

carmine sleet
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Shield worlds protect those inside of them from the effects of the array

edgy apex
#

I’m curious, do you know where that information is stated? There are so many places to get Halo lore from lol. @carmine sleet

carmine sleet
#

Didn't need to tag me and give me a few minutes to double check where that's stated

edgy apex
#

Is it poor manners to tag people here? If so my apologies.

carmine sleet
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It's more just I don't like getting tagged

edgy apex
#

It’s interesting to me that Halo radiation ignores the normal laws of time and space and even destroys precursor structures, yet Requiem is immune.

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Ah I see, my bad.

gilded mason
#

It's more that it destroys nervous system structures. And precursor stuff happens to be made out of that.

edgy apex
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True, it targets structures that harness neural physics.

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I’m curious as to how Requiem was able to somehow impede Halo’s radiation. Is that ever elaborated on?

gilded mason
#

A lotta lead

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(No idea)

unique rune
#

I think I remember reading it had something to do with slipspace but my memory isn’t especially reliable

edgy apex
#

It’s no big deal, It’s just I was re-reading Silentium and I’d always wondered if there was more explanation to how the Didact survived.

unique rune
#

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/the-halo-bulletin-knowledge-drop

Q: How did the Ur-Didact survive the Halo Array firing?

  • Cyanades
    A: The Ur-Didact’s Cryptum served as both a prison and a sanctuary, locking him in a deep meditative state referred to as “xankara” while protecting him in a slipspace bubble and stasis containment as the Halo rings fired. Like a ship at sea remains oblivious to a tsunami passing beneath it, the Ur-Didact was undisturbed as Halo erased all sentient life in the galaxy.
edgy apex
unique rune
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👍

edgy apex
#

Also I found this from Halo Mythos just now:

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“Halo and the Shields could be used in tandem: Halo would be the sword, while the Didact’s own fortresses would act as shields, even protecting against the destructive efforts of Halo itself.”

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So it seems the entire world itself may also protect against Halo, as Slipstream Technician said.

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I actually didn’t realize Halos and shield worlds were gonna be used together.

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Were Halos and Shield worlds ever actually used effectively in concert I wonder?

last anchor
#

No. The Sheild Worlds were effetively sidelined to focus entirely on the Halo instillations.

fair hazel
#

I’m so looking forward to the encyclopedia like i keep thinking about I

versed helm
#

what is your favorite brute's weapon?

versed helm
#

where I can find a video or something that explain all the halo lore

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I have a list but idk if it is accurate

versed helm
#

I've always found Shield Worlds more fascinating than Halos. Onyx especially

pine sage
versed helm
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why were the flood in the Etran harborage (shield world in halo wars)

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how did that happen

main rivet
#

It's unclear. As a shield world, there's no reason for it to hold Flood specimens. And if they were on the exterior, you'd think they'd have been wiped by the Halo firing.

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Really the only thing I feel confident is saying is that the Covenant didn’t release them (this time) and they were probably endemic on the surface before they found it.

ancient void
#

How did the flood learn English?

main rivet
#

They ate someone who knew English, presumably.

ancient void
#

And how did the covernant learn English

main rivet
#

They specifically studied it.

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As part of their "know your enemy so you can obliterate them" strategy.

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The Grunts are shown to be innately good at learning other languages.

languid tundra
#

can a spartan really canonically die from one plasma grenade?

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like you do in the game

pine sage
humble yacht
pine sage
humble yacht
pine sage
gaunt oakBOT
#

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main rivet
#

What exactly the Halos do or do not is still kind of wishy-washy, and the nature and limits of the Flood's survivability/long-term viability, likewise.

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Hey, maybe that new Encyclopedia will lay down a more authoritative log line on the topic!

humble yacht
#

The halo effect kills the brain activity of anything with a notochord or higher

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Including combat forms and graveminds

pine sage
#

Still leaves infection forms and spores. Infection forms would surely have died out but the spores might have gone dormant

main rivet
#

It also is seen to wipe out Flood biomass, though, which isn't strictly "sentient" in the same way a discrete living unit is. It's not like there's a bunch of brains and spinal chords running through them.

#

Actually sticking to the literal reading of “the Halos don’t affect Flood” would be limiting and weird from a practical standpoint in some ways, but would have also been a lot cleaner. As is, the whole “starving to death” thing got overwritten as well so it was going to have to be readdressed at some point.

humble yacht
#

Halo Legends is not strictly canon in how it depicts certain events. Those artists took a lot of liberties

main rivet
#

There's similar scenes in Halo: CEA Terminals.

humble yacht
#

The halo effect itself does not destroy flood biomass. The forerunners spread Solute over the galaxy before firing the halos. This allowed the dead stuff to dissolve after the halos fired, which prevented ecological disaster

main rivet
#

It affects the animals killed by the Halo effect. It doesn't explicitly mention the Flood biomass.

gusty echo
#

Can I be able to play halo infinite on pc because am having gt 710 and I highly doubt that I won't be able to play it because halo 2 remastered gives 20fps and during fight my fps foes to 10 or 15

hexed lion
#

wrong channel, and no, not likely

trail cargo
limpid meadow
versed helm
#

does anyone have a complete halo lore list

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?

humble yacht
#

Halopedia

versed helm
#

there are books and movies, in what order should I watch/read them

humble yacht
#

Ultimately that’s up to you

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You can try for chronological order but you may not be interested in every story

scarlet quiver
# versed helm ?

Halopedia.org is the go to for halo information.
They have a discord as well that is full of fun and smart chaps who dig into the details of everything "halo". It literally a living halo encyclopedia.
If you are a part of this discord, then i strongly suggest you join halopedia discord as well.

static stone
versed helm
#

So how many people could've made it out of Mombasa when the Covenant showed up?

pine sage
versed helm
#

Makes me wonder how many Earth fauna was left behind after the Librarian and her Lifeworkers gathered whatever they could

humble yacht
#

While the flood does consume dead tissue to convert into flood biomass, actual flood tissue is not dead

scarlet hinge
#

you see this depicted in Sadie's Story; as the invasion starts the city exists become incredibly congested and traffic all-but stops

humble yacht
#

Sadie made it out

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So did that cop

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And also that angry mob that tore apart the police captain

last anchor
#

Also, yeah, that whole train of like 300 people got clear so

scarlet hinge
# humble yacht Sadie made it out

yeah - i was assuming the question was being literal in the phrase "by the time the invasion started" - the invasion pretty much started without notice

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so veyr few people would have got out between the battle starting in orbit and the ground forces landing

gaunt oakBOT
#

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last anchor
#

Gotta turn the @ of on that mate.

scarlet hinge
#

that's a thing?

last anchor
#

Yeah, foudn that the hard way myself too

scarlet hinge
#

huh

last anchor
#

When you reply to someone theres a little @ on the side there, just lcick that to OFF

scarlet hinge
#

i have never noticed that

last anchor
#

Neither did I.

#

The more you know

scarlet hinge
#

well anyway, there was very little advance notice for the invasion of Earth - so very few people would have left before the invasion started

#

and of course by the following day most of the city was molten glass

versed helm
#

What about the people that fled via boat?

scarlet hinge
#

you do see that happening in Second Sunrise in the graphic novel, but same sort of deal really. I can't imagine that many people were able to flee that way

#

most of the boat captains will have been mostly concerned with getting themselves and their next-of-kin out, after all

versed helm
#

Plus, I'd imagine that Banshees probably started raining down on those watercraft

scarlet hinge
#

I'd also assume this was at least in part what the Weevil artillery on the old city beaches was set up for too

versed helm
#

Then there's something about Nairobi and Arusha?

scarlet hinge
#

some of the rioters in Sadie's Story manage to escape there, and in H3 Arusha is crossed off on the Tsavo Highway signs - indicating the place has been bombed. Given that H3 takes place about a month after the battle of Earth begins it's likely the city has been long-since destroyed

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tbh the guerilla campaign in East Africa through late october-early november seems like an area i see very few people mention

versed helm
#

Like didn't the battle become global by the time Truth's forces arrived?

scarlet hinge
#

pretty much yeah - we know of conflict zones in the americas, australia, africa and antarctica - from recollection there's not much mentioned in Europe or Asia

scarlet hinge
#

Truth's guys begin showing up about 12 hours after the original attack

versed helm
#

Wasn't there something about Diego Garcia?

scarlet hinge
#

yep - truth be told i wasn't aware that was in the indian ocean until now. It makes sense though given its location relative to Mombasa

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oh, reading further it looks like the UNSC were using it as an operating base to launch attacks in Africa

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we also know the ICBMs from the Standoff missile silos were being used too

versed helm
#

There was fighting in America

scarlet hinge
#

yeah, i mentioned that bit above - though mosto f the stuff in the US itself comes primarily more toward the end of the conflict (that we know of)

languid tundra
#

like the covenant attack on cleveland

versed helm
#

Cleveland lol

scarlet hinge
#

that and the Arizona campaign being conducted against brute holdouts in the closing stages of the war

versed helm
#

I wonder if there are stranded covies hiding in remote parta of earth still

scarlet hinge
#

I've often liked to imagine that a lot of the Brute stragglers retreated into the jungles of Africa and whatnot and continued to be a thorn in local defensive forces' sides for a number of years - similar to those Japanese guys who kept fighting the Second World War into the 70s because they didn't believe that the empire had fallen

versed helm
#

They would have been glassed by the Sangheili ships tho

scarlet hinge
#

Depends on where they were

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if they were in the Amazon or the more western parts of africa, or anywhere in asia, there's no reason why they wouldn't still be there

versed helm
#

Are those places still heavy jungle

scarlet hinge
#

why would they not be?

versed helm
#

5000 yeara of deforesttation i dunno

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500

scarlet hinge
#

we have no evidence to suggest that is the case

versed helm
#

Hm

scarlet hinge
#

either way it's irrelevant to the point being made

versed helm
#

Yeah

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Sasquatch is a stranded Brute soldier

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We never really see what the rest of Africa is like 500 years in the future

scarlet hinge
#

like, it's crazy that the last known Japanese soldier surrendered over 29 years after the end of the Second World War

versed helm
#

Dude was ballin

last anchor
versed helm
#

Ohhhhhh

last anchor
#

Im honestly curious myself about where else in America they hit.
The Covies struck Cleveland cause Ackerson told them to go there, but I figure they probably went elsewhere too.

scarlet hinge
#

we know of Arizona and Cuba

last anchor
#

They were apparently in Antarctica too, Blue Team stopped em.

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Yeah, the Black Stalk of Corn incident.

versed helm
#

Maybe Washington DC.

last anchor
#

Nah, no reason to hit there, the U.S. doesnt exist anymore.

#

Fused with Canada and Mexico to form the URNA

scarlet hinge
#

ehhh - if anywhere got hit in the URNA it would have been New York

versed helm
#

They attacked Syndeny where HIGHCOM is located

scarlet hinge
#

still the HQ of the UN

versed helm
#

Maybe there's still government buildings in Washington

last anchor
#

Probably jsut monuments if I had to guess

versed helm
last anchor
#

A space elevator in Cuba.

scarlet hinge
#

I feel like assuming DC still has the same relevance in 2552 as it does today when it's never had a mention in any canon work is a bit questionable logic

versed helm
#

Is that the one in Ghosts of Onyx

scarlet hinge
#

yep

last anchor
#

Yes

versed helm
#

Cool

versed helm
last anchor
scarlet hinge
#

well new york still exists in '52

versed helm
#

Is Florida still around

last anchor
#

We see it on earth when the Didact hits the planet with the Composer in 4 so I tink so

versed helm
#

Impressive

scarlet hinge
last anchor
#

I know for sure Seattle and Chicago are still both still active cities.

versed helm
#

And New Phoenix

scarlet hinge
last anchor
#

Chicago has an Industrial Zone they test hevy equipment in, and Seattle apparently has enough issues going on to require actie Spartan-IV intervention.

versed helm
#

Which is Phoenix and Flagstaff right?

versed helm
last anchor
#

Megacorperations

#

Apparently they engage in "shadow wars"

scarlet hinge
#

it's very cyberpunk

versed helm
#

I see

#

I hope we see more of that stuff. I liked the stuff with Hannibal Weapons Systems in Point of Light

last anchor
#

Wouldnt mind a map set there in Infinite msyelf

versed helm
#

Hannibal?

last anchor
#

Seattle but Hannibal's testing facility would be cool too

versed helm
versed helm
#

Los Angeles and Atlanta somehow still exist

main rivet
versed helm
#

Don't vehicles use hydrogen fuel in the Halo universe? No idea if that's any different than burning fossil fuels but I'm sure it's a little better

gilded mason
#

Yes, much better

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Apparently it ends up as water vapor after use, so nothing bad.

versed helm
#

That's cool.

stable flower
versed helm
#

Why is Lord Hood addressed as Lord and not his rank?

humble yacht
#

He’s lord admiral hood

#

He’s British nobility, so that’s why he’s a lord

versed helm
#

I assumed so but his accent doesn't sound Britisj

humble yacht
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

versed helm
#

Thanka tho

#

Always bugged me

stable flower
#

Me too. Why didn't they find a British guy to play him?

versed helm
#

Ron Perlman is good

void oar
#

Ok what the hell is up with team omega

#

Are they even canon

versed helm
#

I would suppose they are

versed helm
#

guys, but if the human-covenant war ends in halo 3 , what is halo 4 story about?

gilded mason
#

Other things besides the human-covenant war

versed helm
#

but in halo 4 we also fight covenant right?

gilded mason
#

A remnant faction that simply calls themselves that.

#

They're not the actual Covenant empire

versed helm
rain imp
#

They're known as the Storm Covenant.

#

aka. Jul 'Mdama's Covenant

odd anvil
#

Why was the didact surprised during halo 4 that chief wasn't composed

rain imp
#

He didn't know that the ancilla of the Librarian had evolved John to counter it.

obsidian thistle
#

Have to crush that fast lol

#

That was a mistake by Game journalists taking Storm Rifle and Storm Elites the wrong way.

rain imp
#

Yeah I know it's not the official name. It's just what some people know it as.

unique rune
obsidian thistle
#

We dont know what the Librarian did to Chief fully yet

#

Its honestly one of the mysteries of Halo atm

versed helm
#

the spartans need to eat or drink? how they can survive?

gusty echo
#

It do everything

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But it's a mystery how it does

#

Also how does it get energy to charge shield

versed helm
gusty echo
#

There are too many stuffs

versed helm
#

in the first mission

gusty echo
#

Like manual charging from human activity

gusty echo
#

But wats the capacity of that battery

#

How it get charge

versed helm
#

in the film halo forward unto dawn, if the covenant are deafeted, who is attacking the planet?

#

other aliens ?

#

the Jul 'Mdama's Covenant?

gusty echo
#

I dont know about Movie haven't watched any halo movie

#

But as we k ow in halo 4 the covenant who are attacking us aren't the elites we have fought

bright briar
gusty echo
#

They are a rebilion group and they rebel against arbiter who is trying to make peace b/w human and elites

versed helm
gusty echo
versed helm
#

in the cryogen capsule

bright briar
#

It has a few scenes set just before Halo 4 starts (with the Infinity getting the distress signal from the FuD), but the rest of it is set at the start of the war.

unique rune
versed helm
#

when the human covenant war start?

unique rune
unique rune
versed helm
ocean sluice
#

Harvest

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I think

unique rune
#

Yeah, the human colony world of Harvest.

versed helm
#

It started in 2525

#

and forward unto dawn is when

unique rune
#

Whoops, got my dates mixed up.
The Battle of Circinius IV was in 2526, just over a year after the first Battle of Harvest and beginning of the Human-Covenant War.