#lore-and-universe

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fast harbor
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People tearing apart his rings

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Sad

versed helm
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Sucks to suck

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is Halo 1 is the first game in the timeline?

gilded mason
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Nope

versed helm
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which one?

gilded mason
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That distinction would go to Halo Wars.

versed helm
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oh ok

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Then after that is reach?

gilded mason
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Yup

versed helm
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aight

drowsy mesa
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It's Wars, Reach, and then CE

versed helm
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I figured, cuz when I played CE Master Chief sleeping was kinda odd to me.

gilded mason
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Oh?

versed helm
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I know stories can start and explain that stuff later, but this series is too big not to have prequels

craggy sierra
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Sleeping is a thing people usually do

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If a story starts with someone waking up in the morning there doesn't need to be a prequel explaining how they went to bed the previous night.

flint maple
upbeat torrent
versed helm
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Anyone recall the Prophet of Swag?

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How weird would it be if they made him an actual character?

slim thorn
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The only moment we saw someone sleeping is when Rookie was sleeping during before the drop and when Johnson comes to interrogate Vergil. I guess he has a habit of sleeping when he got bored of waiting.

pulsar pivot
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Now he sleeping 6 feet under

rain imp
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Actually I think you'll find he was vapourised...

pulsar pivot
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Oh

versed helm
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Apparently, there's an MA37 variant called the MA7C. It's literally an MA37 with a fancy reflex optic built into the Ammo Counter.

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There's also a gun called the MA5K Carbine. It's on the cover of Ghosts of Onyx and looks a hell of a lot like the H&K HKG36K Carbine.

limpid meadow
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Where did you read about the MA7C?

versed helm
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Halo Wiki.

humble yacht
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Which wiki

versed helm
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Idk

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Fanon I think

humble yacht
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Yea that’s a fake wiki

versed helm
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Oh ok

humble yacht
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That’s why it’s called fanon. Because it’s fan canon

versed helm
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Ohhh

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Ok

humble yacht
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I recommend using halopedia as your main wiki for halo stuff, they try to be as accurate as possible

versed helm
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I’ve used them before. I was researching operation TORPEDO and PROMETHEUS for a story.

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Good place

limpid meadow
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Very good place! I use them regularly for quick reference when video making

pulsar pivot
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Oh

fair hazel
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Very good reference

last anchor
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To avoid confusion with the full-size MA5C of Halo 3 era

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Also are you SURE the MA5K looks like an G36K?

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Would LOVE a better image of the K honestly

versed helm
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Yep

versed helm
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It has that whole huge carry handle thing.

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Like the G36K

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Kinda like an XM8

last anchor
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Just the carry handle Im pretty sure then.
Cause its bullpup, and the bodyshapes far closer to the MA5 series

versed helm
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Yeah

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It was just the carry handle

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It’s basically an MA5C with a huge carry handle

last anchor
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Technically the C didnt exist in universe just yet (Onyx came out before H3, if I remember right and the C didnt exist till then) so it'd most likely be the carbine version of the MA5B

versed helm
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Oh wait really?

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I’m not that up-to-date on halo lore

last anchor
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Yeah, Halo 3 was 9/25/07
Ghosts of Onyx was published October 31, 2006, so almost a year before

versed helm
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Oh wow

last anchor
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The events of Onyx effectively make me think that Nylund wasnt actually involved in 3s storyline and the events there have very little correlation to Halo 3 (and werent even addressed upon until ALMOST HALO 4)

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So based on that most likely its a carbine using the MA5Bs internals.

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Which would explain why in the book its mentioned as being inaccurate and weaker than a standard rifle Im fairly certain.

versed helm
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Apparently I was born 5 days after HALO 3

versed helm
last anchor
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Interesting.

versed helm
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It did look like an BR-55

last anchor
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Sounds like you got a lot of catching up to do.

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And yeah the body design was probably inspired by the BR

versed helm
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Cool

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Well. I gotta go.

dawn knot
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Biggest halo lore misconception you've heard?

gilded mason
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Man, there's a good amount to choose from.

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I guess one of the more frequent I've heard that was the SII augmentations either kill their "drive" or make them sterile

pulsar grail
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biggest nitpick

where are the rest of the spartans on Reach
the game

gilded mason
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Another big one is that "Elites are Japanese" thing

stable flower
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Why isn't the UNSC Army defending Earth?

gilded mason
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What makes you say they're not?

stable flower
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We don't really hear about them. It's mostly the Marines we hear about.

gilded mason
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Them's the breaks sometimes. Things exist in-universe, but they're simply not the focus at the time.

versed helm
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What's BTB?

gilded mason
versed helm
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Oh ok. So it's for BTB games?

gilded mason
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What is "it's" here?

versed helm
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wym?

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Oh

gilded mason
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What is for BTB?

versed helm
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the VC

gilded mason
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Ah

versed helm
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lol grunt home planet they breathe butt gas

vocal aspen
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Bruh

unique rune
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Biggest halo lore misconception you've heard?
That one really weird one about how the Arbiter was present for Noble Six's death because there's a Sangheili holding an energy sword in his left hand, because... all Arbiters are left-handed for... some reason.

terse lava
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Biggest eh? That Sangheili were so backwards and and helpless post schism that they had to look through archives on how to build..........a barn

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A.Barn.

scarlet niche
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El inquisidor no estaba en reach cuando noble seis murió

humble yacht
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#español

lunar stirrup
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Is war games and or multiplayer canon?

limpid meadow
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Starting with Halo 4, yes.

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The maps from games prior to 4 also canonically exist in the War Games simulator (we actually get to see Blue Team training on "Ivory Tower" in the Lone Wolf comic, for example)

twilit marsh
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War games and MP is canon in 4 onwards as training exercises while previous stuff is probably not considered as such even if some of the maps are real locations in the universe as well.

last anchor
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Still wondering about Chiron TL-34 myself.
"Spartan Clone training facility." Intruging.

limpid meadow
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That line is probably a hard "non-canon" these days, as the original intent seemed very tongue-in-cheek

cobalt quiver
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what exactly is the Ark and what does it do

gilded mason
cobalt quiver
gleaming jackal
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good luck trying to find an assault carrier just lying around

golden void
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hey guys

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which game is the best in Halo Series ?

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I'm playing Halo 5 now. What do u think ?

carmine sleet
pulsar pivot
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Also the one with arbiter killing Noble 6

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But what do the elites culture remind you all of the most

hasty geyser
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Where would refugees from glassed worlds be taken during the early years of the war? Reach? Different inner colonies?

pulsar pivot
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Most likely different colonies

pulsar pivot
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So how does a plasma grenade not stick to you immediately stick to you when you press the button

humble yacht
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Delay timer

pulsar pivot
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Ok

limpid meadow
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In other words: Do NOT let a plasma grenade cook

humble yacht
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It’s also possible that the plasma grenade doesn’t get sticky until you release the button, and so the proper way to throw would be to hold the button down until just as it leaves your hand

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Like a dead man switch

last anchor
last anchor
gaunt oakBOT
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steep ether
fast harbor
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Do u think rhey could make rvb canon, like ik its not and stuff but if we take project freelancer out it could work. ouldnt it

jade wave
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No

steep ether
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theres not much of a point anyway, it would just turn into a bunch of spartan games

last anchor
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Meanwhile, the S-IV program churns out supersoldiers by the hundreds and each of thems worth more than an entire battalion of standard ground troops.

humble yacht
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Tex was a robot so she might have been on par with a spartan

last anchor
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This is true.
The Freelancers themselves wouldnt be the interesting thing to the UNSC most likely, Dr. Church's advanced AI tech and the advances he made would be.

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Mind you they'd have locked him up in Midnight the moment they found out what he did so

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He can be cell mates with Halsey XD

humble yacht
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halsey's not in there anymore

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but Benjamin is

last anchor
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Not anymore no.
The timelines would have matched up though based on the games used (give or take)

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Obviously the timing is hard but I THINK the end of Reconstruction (the series we find out that Church, the Blue Team member, is the remains of the Alpha AI) ended sometime during the Inter-War period (when Halsey was in Midnight)

past lynx
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...

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i watch hiddenxperia and that where i get all my lore what is this about robots? feel free to ignore me

humble yacht
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The Director would have never let himself be taken, anyway

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one of the only legit good drama moments from RvB was when Carolina finally found him

last anchor
past lynx
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ohhhhhhh

humble yacht
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!rule3

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:/

last anchor
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Okay fiar.
but it still gutpunches me

past lynx
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k i gotchu

last anchor
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I think those seasons were the shows best honestly. Chorus was good but it kinda...went down a bit once they added in time travel.
Also yeah anything past the end of Chorus is basically incompatable with Halo period so

humble yacht
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was monty gone by that point?

last anchor
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Yes. He died before the Chorus arc started I think.

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Before the end of RWBY V3 which was...uhhhhh.

humble yacht
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he always planned for rwby to go dark

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not sure how much of it he wrote out before hand

last anchor
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That is an argument the RWBY fandom continues to have to this very day

humble yacht
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but yeah, rvb is not part of canon halo, whether timelines can match or not

humble yacht
limpid meadow
humble yacht
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remember to turn off the ping, pls & thx!

limpid meadow
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Right, sorry!

limpid meadow
# humble yacht well technically they added time travel early on

Yeah, but that was when the series was a joke, and it was played off as a joke. When the show got more series, the time-travel was retconned. The Reds & Blues were moved to a new location as part of the training simulations, and Church was literally being run through computer simulations by Gamma.

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(there we go. doing it right!)

versed helm
last anchor
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Oh you can turn off ping? Useful

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Imma do that to

last anchor
versed helm
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Ok so we're not whining about how horrible RvB One is?

humble yacht
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huh

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what's wrong with season 1?

versed helm
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The new season.

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It's called one

humble yacht
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that's RvB Zero

versed helm
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Wait

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Im like 99% sure it was revealed as RvB one about a year ago.

humble yacht
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nope

limpid meadow
humble yacht
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same

fast harbor
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Yea but rvb is over popular wise, i mean the show failed in rvb zero and the o.g characters are retired already

carmine sleet
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They're no doubt making another season of Red Vs Blue

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Like, RvB Zero has issues, but I'd say that was mainly just in the story department. Fight scenes were great

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Plus, it's still leagues better than season 16

fair hazel
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Also when people think that’s canon but that books and other games aren’t

last anchor
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That’s always fun

limpid meadow
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I've encountered those separately but never from the same person. I can't imagine hold those beliefs at the same time.

fast harbor
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I mean i think they could do it especially with halo 3s new customization if they can do sum with that

obsidian thistle
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Gosh I love weird Halo fiction sometimes. xD

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Today I was reminded that there was a whole lotta in-universe movies I needed to make wiki pages on that sound like bad made for TV sci-fi movies.

last anchor
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All the ones from the signs in 5 right?

obsidian thistle
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Nah

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The ones from the Spirit Paper from Halo Wars

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😉

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Lost Colony 3

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Desperate Planet 2

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Thats like 2 movies series there.

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I so wish we had more on those. xD They sound amazingly bad and I love it.

fair hazel
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Aren't some movies or stuffs mentioned in battleborn

obsidian thistle
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(Gah the preview betrayed me showing my awful early version of that page lol)

fair hazel
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Haha

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there's really not enough perspective in halo about gaming, AR/VR, entertainment, movies shows as much as there should be

obsidian thistle
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I'd love to see more

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Fiction in Fiction is always a fun lil thing to explore.

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Learning how the public see John-117 from outside what is said. But how the public themselves view him.

limpid meadow
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(Battle Born, in case ya didn't take mah meanin')

fair hazel
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Yeah, it sucks so much

limpid meadow
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My favorite parts of that series are the early chapters, focusing on the character just being teens.

spiral jewel
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Aside from the "Default MKV/MKVI" armor sets, I wonder what Mjolnir variation would suit John-117 best, based on his skills

slim thorn
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In Halo 5, he's suited for CQC and a "Tank" role. I personally will thought that he's suited to wear a "survival" variant that allows him to have more shield and its regen.

versed helm
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What rank are green grunts? I swear I’ve seen grunts with green armor

unique rune
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Green Unggoy combat harnesses are generally worn by Unggoy Heavies within the Covenant military.

versed helm
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Alr, thanks

obsidian thistle
spiral jewel
limpid meadow
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I'd love if, maybe, Simon & Schuster could pick up and conclude the Battle Born series, though.

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Anything to finish that storyline!

last anchor
humble yacht
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another sniper with a block of unaccounted for time

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but we know where they end up later

lean karma
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Snipers do seem to go mia a lot but that's part of their role

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Also question I hac

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had* (haven't been here in awhile)

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Whatever happened to that recon sniper from halo 2 anniversary that says the lines "grid kilo 23 is hot"? I always wondered if he died to the scarab in the next cutscenes because when Johnson asks Persia where the rest of her platoon was she said wasted and mentions rockets and 50. Cals not getting through implying there was a sniper

versed helm
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Doesn't she get on the tank with you

lean karma
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Yes? With the other dude

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Which is a bit contradictory to the short story where she stays behind I believe

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Another thing

versed helm
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She most likely dies there

lean karma
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I started a topic on waypoint about atriox being able to stop the energy sword in the halo wars 2 cutscenes where the elite tries to "banish him" and I think more nerdy lore fanatics like me could help me here... I really would hate to chalk up him stopping the red sword with his hand to "creative license" as it was infact a story retold by Isabella so what happened in the cutscenes me be over played. Here's something I came up with though... The red energy sword could be a special "ceremonial blade" that may be weaker as when we see it reforged into atriox's hammer it beats Douglas to a bloody pulp but it doesn't kill him even though the blades came into contact with him... Any normal energy sword would kill you, so maybe the red energy sword was an older model passed down through generations with a weaker blade that didn't cut on impact? What are your thoughts?

versed helm
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Mmmm you're probably right

humble yacht
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he caught it in the gap between the blades and the handle

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his hand is so big that the blades actually begin to cut into his hand but he exploited the design to stop it

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the red blade is probably ceremonial but not weaker, at least not in such a way that would delay its ability to cut

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plasma is plasma, even the lowest temp plasma would incinerate flesh

stable flower
lean karma
# humble yacht he caught it in the gap between the blades and the handle

The way plasma works and how it would be contained it's not quite a lightsaber... Nor should we just assume it works like something from another universe if plasma is contained within a magnetic field upon touching the blade one would have plasma dispersed into their body and it would looks something like how putting on the infinity gauntlet with all the infinity stones in it make it's wielder strain... And would insert radiation of some kind expecially mixing plasma with a magnetic field... I guess it's not all quite realistic and there could just ret con and say "alien tech* not to mention I don't even think his middle finger could have fit through the sword let alone his entire hand like the cutscenes shows

gaunt oakBOT
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lean karma
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Oh my bad*

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Didn't realize u were staffsplatter

humble yacht
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we've seen enough people in Halo get slashed/stabbed with energy swords to assume they work similarly to lightsabers

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don't know where this idea of plasma spreading throughout the body comes from in the context of Halo

lean karma
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If that were the case I guess it would make sense as looking at his profile you can see his right hand appears to be metal... Which was wleither an armor design choice or the fact his hand was cut bad by the sword and got amputated

humble yacht
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Modern Atriox wears a power gauntlet, it's not a full prosthetic replacement but it could be because his hand was severely injured from contact with the energy sword

lean karma
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Yeah pretty intresting...

drowsy mesa
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Well, who's prepared for the second round of "Locke is ded, hurray!"?

humble yacht
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already happened

drowsy mesa
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I mean Third round, this time with the new figures

humble yacht
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i mean, on the toy it looks less like locke's helmet due to the stripe

kindred epoch
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Hey quick question: Can ODST's weld an Energy sword. (why i ask? lets just say someone said they can idk why)

humble yacht
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in lore? don't see why not

stable flower
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Any human can wield them. We just rarely see non-Spartans wielding them.

cobalt thunder
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Energy swords wouldn’t be good for them tho because it’s not like their Jedi holding lightsabers, they will still get shot and unlike Spartans die

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They don’t have energy shields like Spartans so their vulnerable and really a gun would be better for them

kindred epoch
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So is that a?

cobalt thunder
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?

kindred epoch
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nvm

slim thorn
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A marine can even wield an Energy Sword, like how Sergeant Forge wields it to kill Ripa 'Moramee

dawn knot
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Could the average human hold a gravity hammer

slim thorn
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How heavy is the hammer?

gilded mason
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85 lbs

slim thorn
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Almost 40kg... It'll be difficult to carry it around

unique rune
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It’d be like carrying around a child to bludgeon people with.

unique rune
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They would presumably have some kind of internal power supply and manual trigger mechanism

fair hazel
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Sentinel beam*. When it's off a sentinel it has a limited supply and can still function. Self contained, but yes when it's attached it doesn't have this limited supply.

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ammo wise, energy

lean karma
stable flower
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It never occurred to me how Sentinel Beams are fired by a humanoid

lean karma
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Yeah never understood why there's like a trigger for the gun after it's destroyed but I guess we for crawlers

kindred epoch
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what about other covenant weapons, like another words what type of covenant and forrunner (sorry for spelling) weapons can ODST's use

lean karma
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All

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I think what you want to ask is what weapons can ODST and marines not fire

kindred epoch
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yeah that

lean karma
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Also yes I see what I said cuss words even mild ones are banned

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From here I suggest your refrain as you could get banned for a stupid reason lol

kindred epoch
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hmm

lean karma
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Either way I dont think any weapons in game at least are limited beyond ODST and marine capabilities granted their trained how to use them

kindred epoch
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hmmm

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what abo- nvm

wise kelp
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Covenant and Forerunner weapons are designed for creatures with hands and fingers to use. So in general, humans can use them too, with some discomfort. The exception would be weapons made by or for species like the brutes. They could be too large or have too much recoil to feasibly use

fair hazel
prisma crescent
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Considering energy swords are one of the very few insta-death weapons that aren't explosives, my assumption was always that they combined impalement and electrical shock (not gonna reply because pinging a mod is apparently a big no-no with the bot)

prisma crescent
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I always assumed that to some degree LASO was just realism mode.

craggy sierra
prisma crescent
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that too lol

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But especially in Reach, the gruesome energy sword cutscenes don't show a burn, it's more of an instant "stabbed through the heart" kind of death

craggy sierra
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Reach also doesn't show a hole on the corpse of anyone who gets run through by a sword either. Just cause Bungie didn't model it it doesn't mean it's not how the sword works in lore.

prisma crescent
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maybe not

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I was referring to the ending cutscenes, since those would be pre-rendered

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an electrical shock directly to the spinal cord wouldn't exactly be a survivable way to go, after all, but it depends on elites also having spines

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or some form of a central nervous system that can be stabbed

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not counting actual gameplay, we always see them get fully impaled or backstabbed

craggy sierra
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Elites have spines

terse lava
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Sangheili...do have spines

craggy sierra
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And nervous systems

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Really they have most things humans have. Just more in some cases.

terse lava
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Like two hearts

prisma crescent
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neat, i never read into covenant anatomy

terse lava
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Not much to go into detail about really

craggy sierra
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I mean you can tell they have spines just from the simple fact they are not an amorphous blob.

terse lava
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Literally every species in halo has a spine, minus the Huragok/engineers

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And I guess, some form of Precursors

prisma crescent
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I was gonna say "and flood" but who cares they're a fungus

terse lava
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They get spines too, those of the host body

prisma crescent
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Do flood rely on the connection between the brain and body to use the body? They're the only race you can't assassinate

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at least as far as i've played, I haven't dabbled in 343 Halo

terse lava
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The infection form replaces the brain for the body, and using the spinal cord and nervous system to puppet the body around

craggy sierra
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Flood have not been in a shooter Halo since 3

prisma crescent
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i meant 4 might introduce other races you can't backstab

terse lava
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...halo 4 came out in 2012...

prisma crescent
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might have introduced, point was i never played 4 or 5

craggy sierra
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No actually 4 kinda goes so far as to let you backstab things you wouldn't even expect to be backstabable

terse lava
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Kinda I guess

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But can you really count the knights?

prisma crescent
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but yeah my idea with flood, if i had to guess, was any physical damage to the spinal cord woudln't matter

craggy sierra
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The assasination for watchers is still hilarious

prisma crescent
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The flood didn't rely on the brain as a control center for the body, they literally just took over the body and would fill in any gaps you made

terse lava
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Those little bots can be assassinated?

craggy sierra
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Yes

terse lava
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Weird

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Never tried that

craggy sierra
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So can the crawlers

terse lava
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Crawlers i have seen yeah

prisma crescent
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I kinda like how Halo 1 literally has rooms that sorta "prompt" you to sneak up and stab a Flood monster only for it to turn around and slap you

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I was getting pretty confident with my ability to assassinate covenant so being caught off guard with Flood was a good scare

terse lava
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wouldn't say any do that, seeing as in CE, the flood are almost unaffected by melee

prisma crescent
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there are rooms in CE where there's a single flood facing away from the entrance, which in a covenant room would be an invitation to sneak up on everyone

terse lava
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And you attempted to assassinate the combat form?

prisma crescent
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there aren't very many but in tight passageways the flood are sometimes set up similar to the sleeping grunt rooms

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especially in levels where you might already be doing just that with elites

stable flower
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Assassination on combat forms is discouraged, just like using the sniper rifle on them.

prisma crescent
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I'm aware, i'm saying there's like one or two rooms where a single combat form is facing away and new players would tihnk "ahhh, stabby time"

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and when you punch them it just alerts the entire room

terse lava
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Yeah, like how even The Flood commented on the sniper rifle passing right through as the organs were mostly liquefied

prisma crescent
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the flood really keeps you on your toes in that sense, most weapons are only good againts flood or covenant

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like shotguns are great on combat flood but good luck getting close enough to get anything but one or two shots in on a covenant enemy

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so when you're against both you gotta actually manage your inventory

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IIRC the only weapons that are truly effective against both are either really weak guns or overpowered rocket launcher type guns

terse lava
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Found the plasma rifle works well enough if you are careful not to overheat it

prisma crescent
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the plasma pistol is great in the first halo

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just spam it on either one and it gets the job done good enough, so i always have one as my second weapon

stable flower
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I wonder if a paraplegic could move his legs in turned into a combat form

terse lava
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Yeah

prisma crescent
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like i said, flood can almost definitely take control of a broken spine

terse lava
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Yeah, breaking the spine won't stop anything

prisma crescent
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if you wanna think about it realistically, the spine is just a central rod where all the wires are threaded. Flood splice those wires, so cutting them just means the flood's gotta splice it further down

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human nerves are just flesh wires sending chemical/electrical impulses

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nerve damage would not hurt flood but physical broken limbs might

terse lava
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Don't think the flood are capable of feeling pain. Unless the infection form fails to properly assimilate the host like with Jenkins

prisma crescent
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wait, did jenkins not get properly assimilated? I thought jenkins was just really, really strong-willed

terse lava
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No

gilded mason
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The infection form that got him was kinda mis-formed

sterile pawn
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No, it was really like expired milk

gilded mason
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So it wasn't as effective

terse lava
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Thr infection form was weak from storage and older

gilded mason
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Ah, yes

sterile pawn
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It's milk but that's not going to do what you want it to

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James: the king of bad analogies

terse lava
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The flood form gained most of the control over his body, but couldn't purge his mind. Thus Jenkins could maintain a small amount of control, and the flood form would share in any pain he did

sterile pawn
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When the virus takes over your computer but it couldn't delete taco.exe that has been running for the last 6 months

prisma crescent
#

oh wow i just realized on the cairo stage in halo 2 anniversary they added superintendent faces in some areas, very neat touch

gilded mason
#

cairo stage
You mean New Mombasa?

prisma crescent
#

oh shoot cairo is the first stage isn't it

gilded mason
#

Ye

prisma crescent
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the second one yeah

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i had to press tab a few times to confirm i wasn't going crazy and it wans't just always there

steel stone
#

What happen to the Drinol? that an enemy in Halo 1 that was removed.

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Is that creature still canon? hear from some sources say it is.

gilded mason
#

It is, yes. Though now named Sharquio

steel stone
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Just like the Elites are called sangheli? Drinols have their own name?

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Thats good to know

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Was the Drinols used anywhere outside of Halo 1? I saw a mod that added them in Halo 2

gilded mason
#

Sharquoi were never used in any game

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Only in a book

steel stone
#

I read as well that they are very dumb too XD

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Thanks for clearing that up, was wondering about those giants that just appear and then vanished.

obsidian thistle
#

Dont be forgetting Conversations from the Universe like that

gilded mason
#

I didn't forget. ;)

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Just felt it not worth mentioning

obsidian thistle
#

Just shows how long some pieces of fiction take to rope in sometimes despite being canon.

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(And for y'all deep Canon hunters to ignore nothing aha)

versed helm
#

Is it possible that both Tobias Fleming Shaw and Wallace Fujikawa had a genesong inside of them that allowed them to create the Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine?

humble yacht
#

sure, it's possible that all the scientific achievements humanity experienced were thanks to forerunner genesongs

versed helm
#

Also, how was humanity able to colonize the Jovian moons?, like how did they deal with the immense radiation and intense gravity well of Jupiter?

fair hazel
#

Somehow. We don’t have full details on everything

versed helm
#

I mean they aren't really useful to the lore

obsidian thistle
#

Well there is also the whole "not 1 to 1" stick Halo has where something may not be the same as its irl counterpart for 1 reason or another.

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Plenty systems have planets for example that are "impossible" or different.

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So its possible the radiation just isnt there. Or there in a harmful capacity

humble yacht
#

or people live in bubble cities

obsidian thistle
#

Well Europa is the only fully terraformed one. So thats a given

ripe crow
#

Finally getting started with the extended universe, listening to chapter one of the Halo: Cryptum audiobook

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Really like Greg Bear’s style of writing so far

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Bornstellar, Chakas, and Riser seem like they’ll be a fun group to follow

terse lava
#

The first book is very enjoyable. 2nd one can feel a bit boring with only tidbits of good info. The 3rd is well written as well

ripe crow
#

Nice! I’ll keep listening on and off while I get ready for bed, it’s really fun getting to know the forerunner’s history

ripe crow
#

Just got to the part where they ran into this weird thingy on the island

lusty widget
#

Hello

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What exactly did the Arbiter have to do with Ascendant Justice?

fast harbor
#

From what i know and dont take my word to much on this cause i dont remeber to much, the prohet of stewart was misappropriating his force so vadeem sent an infantry unit and the prophet destroyed it on sight, saying that anything so vademee attempted to take the ship back

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Theres the rest on halo pedia or halo canon for details

ripe crow
#

“You are what you dare” what a quote, I love it.

last anchor
last anchor
ripe crow
#

Oh hold up the Didact just made an appearance now 👀

last anchor
#

Hes going to show up quite a bit actually. Keep listening XD

ripe crow
#

Hype 👀

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Wait this is totally the didact from halo 4

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He seems angry like he is in the game lmao

last anchor
#

Nah hes just grumpy from his nap is all.

ripe crow
#

Hahaha, relatable

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I love this author’s writing style so much

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Lmao he’s being described like he’s a raisin 😂

fast harbor
ripe crow
#

25% done the audiobook

#

Gonna head to bed after I finish chapter 9, it’s been nice chatting on and off through the experience!

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The halo array is a huge violation of the mantle, isn’t it? How would the forerunners have allowed something like that?

gilded mason
#

They were convinced that it's a lesser atrocity to allowing the Flood to assimilate everything.

ripe crow
#

Oh man of course the chapter I stopped at had to have a huge cliffhanger

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“Had I known where we were fleeing, and what we would find . . . Against the greatest and most solemn instructions of the Mantle, I might have killed myself then and there.”

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This book is picking up the pace pretty fast

fast harbor
#

Lol that halo books for ya

ripe crow
#

I wonder if they’re gonna run into the flood, or if born is gonna see some really messed up stuff

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Welp, I’ll keep you guys updated on my thoughts when I continue tomorrow

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Goodnight!

ripe crow
#

Oh boy- the rings were tested on a whole planet yeesh

gilded mason
#

Yeah...the Master Builder is not a good person.

fast harbor
lean karma
#

Lol I'm reading through some of my favorite halo books again myself (Contact Harvest and the controversial Kilo Five: Mortal Dictata)

pulsar pivot
#

How deadly are elites in canon

craggy sierra
#

I believe they have physical strength and defenses on par with Spartans

pulsar pivot
#

Interesting

last anchor
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They nasty

ripe crow
#

Soo they just found what seems to be a cage, I wonder what was being kept there

carmine sleet
#

Hey, so I was taking a look at the MA37's details and I'm wondering why this doesn't seem to be ever mentioned by anyone? Like, this image is from Halopedia but I don't see anything on the page talking about this detail

MA37_SideText.png
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Does this mean MA37 is a name used by the UNSC army or something along those lines?

ripe crow
#

So they tested the halo on charum hakkor, and broke the capsule that was containing that creature

stable flower
#

I believe that's an error by Bungie, Slip

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The M6G in the game is also labeled M6B

carmine sleet
#

Ah, I see

pale imp
#

More interestingly noted is the term NATO in there. NATO continues to exist in the Halo universe? the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

humble yacht
#

Lol

stable flower
#

NATO apparently runs Rats Nest.

ripe crow
#

*All that remained, apparently, were mosses, fungi, algae, and their combined forms.

“Nothing with a central nervous system or even a notochord,” the ship’s ancilla reported. “No fauna above a millimeter in scale.”*

Oh no.

craggy sierra
#

I just know NATO as the thing that appears on machine gun ammo in some resident evil games.

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If they make bullets now dunno why they'd stop in the future

ripe crow
#

Hold on, aren’t huragok the engineers?

gilded mason
#

Yes.

ripe crow
#

They’re forerunner servants?

gilded mason
#

Yes

ripe crow
#

W o a h

obsidian thistle
#

Dont get me started on the MA5C - MK 4 xD @carmine sleet

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Kinda a fun debate topic among the Halopedia staff aha

carmine sleet
#

I can imagine

obsidian thistle
#

The current consensus is though that its a mistake (or outdated term) that wasnt fixed up for release. And has no canon basis.

carmine sleet
#

Roger that. Thanks for the clarification

obsidian thistle
#

(Is however fun for Canon debates if you did wanna take it serious)

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The M6C on the Halo 3 Pistol is a really fun one.

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Seeing as Bungie either knowingly or unknowingly wrote a piece of fiction that weirdly explains it away.

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"The modification package to the latest revision of the M6 pistol series: The M6G PDWS."

#

Modification packages can explain that away aha

#

I honestly dont think it was intended. But it certainly works out aha

carmine sleet
#

Aye, indeed

ripe crow
#

Bornstellar’s brevit mutation is reminding me a lot of the way the Spartan II program changed John

unique rune
#

By the 26th century, even if the organization itself stopped existing, I don’t think it’d be a stretch to think that 7.62 NATO just remained the common name for 7.62x51mm

slim thorn
#

Or NATO could turn into a firearms company that regulates bullet production.

unique rune
#

Sounds like a really weird direction for an international military alliance to go, but... sure.

marsh tendon
#

who here wants to talk about halo 5

#

lore

#

i recon its better to keep silent

humble yacht
#

why don't you start

ripe crow
#

Ohhh the prophets are Here too

dawn knot
#

What exactly made the prometheans so readily accept Cortana as their leader?

humble yacht
#

they don't exactly have free will

dawn knot
#

You would expect a foreunner system to reject foreign influence

humble yacht
#

The Domain isn't Forerunner

gloomy gorge
#

I just thought of something but there was probably aquatic flood. As someone with Thalassophobia I think a flood infected shark or squid but literally be the scariest thing I've ever seen

dawn knot
#

Flood infected plankton when

ripe crow
#

*The Didact continued. “Even before we went to war with humans, they were fighting another foe. A most hideous scourge we had yet to encounter, and about which we still know very little.”

I looked inward. “The Flood,” I said.*

oh boy.

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Yeesh I really don’t like Faber at all

versed helm
#

If Atriox doesn’t believe the great journey and hates the covenant, why does he still wanna kill humanity?

gilded mason
#

Because..."""""reasons"""""

versed helm
#

The only reason i think he hates humans is because they killed his brothers

unique rune
#

he just do

#

don't think about it too hard or else it just falls apart

versed helm
#

Nor really that hard, it's pretty simple

unique rune
#

Maybe he's just salty about the Spirit of Fire throwing a wrench in his plans at the Ark

gilded mason
#

"Welp, looks like the Swords of Sanghelios beat me. Okay, guess there's no more Elites in the Banished, since that's apparently how I roll??"

versed helm
#

I admired the banished now I see so many things that doesn’t go together and the flaws

gilded mason
ripe crow
#

Chakas is a chad

versed helm
#

No reason for making their own halo ring, no reason for hating humanity

#

I hope infinite explains more

gilded mason
#

It won't.

versed helm
#

Probably won't

#

😞

unique rune
#

It'll probably give some reasoning for the Halo ring bit but probably not much beyond that

#

The more I think about it the more I feel disappointed by Halo 5's decision to kill off Jul 'Mdama and his Covenant faction

versed helm
#

Warden could've been an exclusive boss fight to chief and jul to Locke

ripe crow
#

Fr

versed helm
#

Give chief 2 or 3 more missions and do that and you're alr

#

Let those 2 or 3 explain a little bit of the story

#

It’s just two small things that doesn’t make much sense about the banished and I’m so bothered by it

#

Everyone hates humans 😐

unique rune
#

mood

versed helm
#

Actually if you think about it the banished and elites in halo 3 are just going through the same thing. Except the banished more agressive?

#

And weak

stable flower
versed helm
#

Weak? I wouldn’t say that

#

They were scavengers

#

Still are kinda

#

Or Atriox just wants to take over the world

#

What even is Atriox's goal

#

Whatever I’m counting on a halo novel for explanation

versed helm
#

i read that halo 1-3 is not cannon anymore is this true

versed helm
#

just saw a vid by halofollower

uneven lion
#

more like retconned

unique rune
#

What even is Atriox's goal
I'm pretty sure the idea was just that he's trying to consolidate power
Otherwise... not really anything

#

just saw a vid by halofollower
Well, there's your first problem.
Don't.... don't put too much weight behind whatever HaloFollower is vomiting out these days.

versed helm
#

@versed helm but why would they do that doesn't make sense how can i find the true lore then

#

@unique rune i just thought cause he had a lot of subs

#

By of course not I mean of course that’s not true

#

ohh

#

You felt panic for 30 seconds, sorry

#

I don’t trust halo follower

unique rune
#

Remember, just because a channel has a lot of subscribers doesn't mean it's a reliable source

#

Or that it produces good content for that matter.

versed helm
#

Is hiddenxpera a reliable source?

#

who should i watch then

#

for lore

unique rune
#

quite frankly no one

#

Halo Canon is pretty good though

versed helm
#

watch the terminals

#

Or I’ll just ask the people in this channel of whom read every halo book

#

Installation 0 is alright

unique rune
#

But it's always worth considering that content creators will almost always end up applying their own biases and views on Halo media

versed helm
#

You people are a reliable source right?

unique rune
#

...Reliable enough.

Most of the time.

versed helm
#

I am like the media

unique rune
#

From what I've heard Installation00 has a habit of filling in gaps with speculation and such in his videos, so maybe don't take everything he says as absolute truth.

#

Ultimately the best way to take in Halo lore/canon stuff is to just experience it yourself

versed helm
#

Play the games, read the novels, watch stuff and terminals

stable flower
versed helm
#

I got a random gift card for a book store and I never bought a book besides the ones the school made us buy… is that sad? Also I hope I find a halo novel there

#

He is looking to create a society with the absence of social classes, money, and the state. And this clearly crashes against the methodic, hierarchical way of Cutter, for Cutter order and control is important.

#

Based

unique rune
#

is that sad?
I mean, not really. Necessities should take priority over luxuries.

versed helm
#

Idk thought it was sad that I don’t read books that much but maybe what the older people say just got to me

#

do you think halo can actually happen like us against aliens

#

Only books I've read is Fall of Reach and The Flood

#

Well if it's current day humanity against aliens we'd definitely lose

#

By aliens i meant the Covenant

#

thats what im saying

uneven lion
#

or the flood or prometheans

versed helm
#

Just let them take the forerunner stuff

#

Unless if they haven't got to the point where they hate humans

#

lol

#

why would they hate us if they never met us

#

I believe the prophets found something saying that forerunners were the descendants of humans and could only use forerunner tech so they started hating humanity

#

And made the Covenant hate humanity

humble yacht
#

Uh, no

#

They found evidence that humans were descendants of forerunners and that went against their whole religion

versed helm
#

show us the evidence

#

Thank you for correcting

humble yacht
versed helm
#

i need to read the books ;/

#

🎸

#

You don't really need to, they're just for extra stuff that's interesting

#

whats first fall of reach or evolutions of halo volume 1 i wanna read them ;/

#

First book released was Fall of Reach

#

I believe the forerunner saga is the Canon Beginnings

#

so read those first

#

waht about the flood it says it came sec i think

#

this one sounds cool Halo: Ghosts of Onyx

#

The flood is the novelization of Combat Evolved

#

With some more stuff

#

Makes chief feel a little human

#

i see

#

I haven't read any books besides that and FoR

#

lol

#

I might listen to the audiobooks of other books on youchewbe

ripe crow
#

I’m really enjoying the forerunner trilogy rn

#

So ||bornstellar’s father designed the halo rings?|| Cryptum spoilers

#

Chapter 30... really hurts

#

Wait 12 Halos

#

???

#

SO MANY QUESTIONS

#

Why is this chapter so SAD

#

I’m crying ugh

versed helm
terse lava
#

@ripe crow your questions will be answered in the next two books

pulsar pivot
#

Patience

#

Is key

stable flower
#

Wish they made a TV series already

versed helm
#

They're making one rn

unique rune
#

Remember when the TV series was supposed to launch alongside Halo 5?

Fun times.

versed helm
#

Yeah

viscid salmon
pulsar pivot
#

Remember when halo infinite was supposed to come out in 2020

versed helm
#

Remember when Halo infinite was supposed to come out in 2001

ripe crow
#

WAIT A SECOND

#

Is Chakas who I think he is?

versed helm
#

Chakas is the ancient human turned into 343 Guilty Spark

ripe crow
#

WHAAAA

versed helm
#

Mmmmmm

ripe crow
#

Wack. Absolutely wack.

versed helm
#

Yeah

pulsar pivot
#

Wait a fiddle stick second

#

Moniters are people?

versed helm
#

Ancient humans

#

Prometheans are ancient humans as well

fair hazel
#

not all monitors are people

#

only some

humble yacht
#

Tragic solitude was a composed forerunner

#

Also the first Promethean Knights were all composed forerunners

ripe crow
#

Wait this is installation 07

#

Isn’t that where halo infinite is taking place?

#

👀

#

I swear if we get to visit the palace of pain

versed helm
#

guys , how I should play the videogames in a chronological order ?

#
  1. Halo: Wars
  2. Halo: Reach
  3. Halo: Combat Evolved
  4. Halo 2
  5. Halo 3: ODST
  6. Halo 3
  7. Halo 4
  8. Halo 5: Guardians
    9: Halo Wars: 2
versed helm
#

3,1,9,5,4,6,7,8,2

versed helm
unique rune
shrewd bone
versed helm
#

All halo mobile is is the start of the 2nd war between halo 3 and 4 and prometheans assaulting New Mombasa training

#

That’s how I played it

versed helm
#

I started way back when I was 10

#

I played odst and halo 3 when I was 8

versed helm
#

I believe so

#

If you mean timeline wise

versed helm
dawn knot
#

You'll get sick of CE if you play reach before

versed helm
slim thorn
versed helm
#

So what is your most favorite military unit or branch in the UNSCDF?

#

Mine would have to be the ODSTs

vocal aspen
versed helm
#

True.

viscid salmon
#

Marines really. Could be personal bias but I find regular dudes going out and fighting against something that simply cannot be stopped using nothing but training, doctrine, and luck on the ground to be very defining for them.

#

I guess Army can also factor into that, but they never really leave their planets do they?

unique rune
#

It's better to play through chronological stuff (Which means from Halo Wars)
Going through a series by chronological order even though it wasn’t produced/released in that order is... generally not a good idea.

versed helm
#

Was Thel Vadam aka Arby ever married?

gilded mason
#

Yes

versed helm
#

to your mom

#

Really?, another mom joke

slim thorn
versed helm
#

Who else felt sorry for Fal Chavamee?

unique rune
#

I mean if you want to keep track of chronological order there’s different ways to do that.

#

Stuff like prequels are typically written with the “future” events in mind because that previous work already exists.

#

Like, you can play Reach before CE, but ignoring the graphical and gameplay changes/improvements over the decade between the two, Reach is already kinda written under the assumption that you know what it leads into.

#

The whole big marketing tagline was “From the beginning, you know the end”

#

It’s like watching the Star Wars prequel trilogy before the original trilogy.

You could do that if you want to follow chronological order, but the works are written and designed to not be viewed chronologically.

lilac leaf
#

i just have one question

#

what's in an MOA burger?

unique rune
viscid salmon
#

Mmm, Moa Angus.

humble yacht
#

The fact that moa meat is called angus and used for burgers makes me think it tastes like beef

#

Which begs the question on why moa nuggets exist

dawn knot
#

Beacuse who wouldn't want white meat beef hunks

humble yacht
#

Pretty sure big birds classify as red meat

dawn knot
#

Do they?

humble yacht
#

Have you seen ostrich meat?

#

Hell, look at duck meat even

dawn knot
#

Huh, they are

#

Which makes me even more questioning if why they exist

#

Maybe because environmental impact or feeding cost?

unique rune
#

If they're anything like most chicken nuggets, maybe they're reconstituted from otherwise unsaleable meat scraps?

humble yacht
#

I mean from a flavor standpoint

#

Who the hell would want a beef nugget

#

It wouldn’t hit the same as a chicken nugget

#

And we know chickens still exist because the ground pounder has a fried chicken patty

#

(Which when I made a homemade ground pounder, the chicken was the best part)

fading condor
#

Just finished halo retribution. I didn’t realize blue team operated on meridian in both retribution and the H5 campaign. Don’t remember their commentary regarding a previous visit...

humble yacht
#

You don’t play as blue team while on meridian

fading condor
#

But in argent moon isn’t their a discussion about going to meridian with the team once 117 mentions it’s name to the rest of the team?

#

I need to go back and finish that level to see if there was and I just missed it. You’d think Fred would have said something

humble yacht
#

Not necessarily

#

As talkative as Fred is, like the rest of blue team he keeps a lot of his thoughts to himself

slim thorn
#

I tried making turkey burger, and it tastes interesting.

#

Dunno if Moa was classified as either chicken or turkey for this case.

humble yacht
#

It looks more like beef

#

Which is par for the course with other large birds

slim thorn
#

Everything looks like the same when the factory produces a quarter pounder or burger meat for that.

humble yacht
#

Turkey burgers look different. The meat is not as dark

rose delta
#

Which books do you guys think would make the best Halo TV Series? I'd personally really want to see a Kilo-Five Series.

gilded mason
#

I'd rather something unique. But if it had to be derivative, then I guess Broken Circle.

humble yacht
#

Lol

rose delta
#

Yeah, I can see Broken Circle, they did a really good dive into the Covenant perspective. That'd be my second choice. I just really liked the characters in Kilo-Five overall, and the more ethically dubious things that we haven't seen in most of the games, apart from mentioning the Spartan project over and over.

ripe crow
#

Uh oh, Chakas is gonna run into the flood on that island I guarantee it

#

Oh it’s a gravemind-

slim thorn
#

I just hope that Divine Wind may fill the part of when Ferrets encountered a "ghost ship" SoF (Which I expect she and Spartan-III on Ferrets considers SoF as lost with all hands).

terse lava
#

@gilded mason would like that, perhaps told by Ro to some humans?

gilded mason
#

Would it really need a framing device?

ripe crow
#

People said that Primordium wasn’t as good as Cryptum? I’m kind of enjoying the slower pace of this book to be honest, it’s really suspenseful.

viscid salmon
#

It doesn't focus as much on the Forerunners. I like it because it's worldbuilding in general.

#

I want to know more about this era.

#

Some people like the Forerunners shrouded in mystery. Not me personally. I want to know as much as possible.

terse lava
#

@gilded mason for the common folks and casuals, likely

gilded mason
#

😩

lean karma
gilded mason
#

They are books. Misread that lmao

lean karma
#

Any nerd who takes the time to get it (like me) has enjoyed it... I think thier complaint if you wanna call it that is that it's hard to understand without context and on its own without other extensive lore knowledge... It's like... It's like the Halo 5 of halo book series. strange and confusing at first.

lean karma
gilded mason
#

Any nerd who takes the time to get it (like me) has enjoyed it
A bit gatekeepy.

lean karma
#

bruh, how

#

Most people gravitate towards something they recognize like Fall of reach or contact harvest because they recognize the location or Johnson from friends I've shared the books with

gilded mason
# lean karma *bruh, how*

Since you were sayin' the only reason somebody wouldn't like it is because they don't "get" it? Just feels, y'know, kinda condescending.

lean karma
#

...

#

-_-

#

If you read a book that's intresting but you can't understand it (like a good science academic journal) you tend to be distracted from the intresting points of the story and more concerned trying to learn what it's even talking about, this is true about a great deal many things Sorry that sounds "gate keepy" just speaking from a but if insight if someone wants to read arguably the most lore in depth book series first when the last game they played was halo 3 be my guest but I suggest something easier to comprehend such as The flood, or Contact Harvest etc.

#

But yes I can read my comment and see how me trying to be sarcastic saying "(like me)" sounds snarky or prudish lmao 😅

ripe crow
#

I’m loving the forerunner saga ngl

lean karma
#

Yeah it's great

#

Where are you at in the trilogy so far?

ripe crow
#

Primordium

#

Chapter 23

lean karma
#

Well I can't recall that off the top of my head but is that the one with the didacts face for the cover art??

ripe crow
#

That’s silentium

lean karma
#

I guess I was asking what the latest biggest event you're reading (wouldn't mind talking about it just don't wanna spoil)

#

Ah

ripe crow
#

I just got to the part where the ancient humans were talking about the war through Chakas and Riser

lean karma
#

Ah so past the shield world part but not quite to the time vault with the cough spoiler

#

Yeah it was wierd when if first read the book seeing chakkas as a human

viscid salmon
#

Can't wait till you get to Silentium

fair hazel
#

I wonder if there's any fanart of the Owls

terse lava
#

Quite likely

void oar
#

How did the covenant find that "weapon cache" in Halo ce which let the flood out?

terse lava
#

Likely from scanning the ring. Their fleet arrived quite some time before the POA did. They had ships collecting relics and troops groundside when the Autumn arrived

steel stone
#

What is the Decimator armor? is it true its really the Mark 7?

ripe crow
#

Okay so I’m a little lost here, Chakas, Riser, Mara, and Vinnevra went inside the ring, got caught by mendicant bias, and then had their ancient memories removed, right?

ripe crow
unique rune
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Uh oh, is Chakas going to become a monitor?

viscid salmon
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Maybe. Maybe not.

ripe crow
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Wowie, what an ending

ripe crow
obsidian thistle
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"some elements tested with the GEN1 and GEN2 Mark VII remain in the prototype stage due to unreliability or cost factors"

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So a GEN2 version did exist

slim thorn
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So the latest armor fielded was Mark VI, then.

charred cargo
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Does anyone have good recommendations when it comes to Halo novels? Wanted to get into the novelizations for quite some time now, but I'm unsure which books are decent and what read order might be best. thinkingchief

versed helm
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I usually do release order so I'd start with Fall of Reach, Chief's origin and part of first contact with the Covenant

charred cargo
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Yeah, that sounds fair. I've heard some people like to start with the Forerunner trilogy - but release order makes sense, since that's the way it probably was intended.

versed helm
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⭐

rose delta
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I'd agree on release order as well, chronological kinda makes you lose focus if you don't care about the Forerunners too much at the start - kinda ruins the sense of mystique if read about them first and then about humans and aliens both going "Ooooh, who were these magnificent beings?"

versed helm
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Lol yeah

ripe crow
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# ripe crow I actually really like knowing all about it and playing through ce, knowing what...

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. It's fun having that background knowledge that the characters don't have to fill in some gaps. I just feel that it's better to build up the Forerunners with the other novels first, since the trilogy goes so heavy on them, if you haven't built up a good bit of curiosity about them first, you might not appreciate it as well. Did you get to Silentium yet? I actually finished it again just about a week ago.

versed helm
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It's interesting how mysterious the forerunners were at first

ripe crow
rose delta
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I really like the concept of The Domain and how much it affected Forerunner civilisation as a whole, and how yet they knew so little about it themselves.

tepid barn
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how many rings are destroyed

ripe crow
rose delta
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'Cause I think a total of 11 were destroyed during the Forerunner-Flood war.

tepid barn
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currently

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and how many are left cause isnt there replacments

rose delta
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There was the replacement on the Ark in Halo 3 that blew up, so if you count that one and the one in Halo CE, I think 13 destroyed?

tepid barn
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oh ok thx

slim thorn
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If it was from CE until now, there are two rings destroyed.

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And all of it are meant for 04 (Original and first replacement)

versed helm
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Was the ark seen in 3 destroyed?

viscid salmon
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||Nope||

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||We've got another whole game dedicated to fighting on it||

versed helm
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HW2?

viscid salmon
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Correct

versed helm
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I assumed it was a separate ark

viscid salmon
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Well...

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||there were two||

humble yacht
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the greater ark was destroyed long ago

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there's only one ark in modern halo

viscid salmon
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The lesser Ark is only 120,000 kilometers in diameter.

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Thus proving that the Forerunners win forever when it comes to megastructure engineering.

hasty geyser
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They made a shield world 2 AU in diameter

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The Forerunners were insane

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255 quadrillion square kilometre surface area

viscid salmon
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A shield world. You're on infusions if you don't think they had more than one like this.

hasty geyser
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Oh, absolutely

grand iris
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Does Mjolnir gen2 give the same amount of protection that Mjolnir gen 1 have when unshielded since it's 40% of bodysuit exposed with no armour

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Or is the bodysuit really durable?

viscid salmon
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As durable as the Gen 1 would be my guess.

humble yacht
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the techsuit is a titanium alloy mesh

viscid salmon
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It looks like some plated armor.

grand iris
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Which sorta reminds me. Since it's said that AI's can interfere with gen 2 Mjolnir since they have an AI interface does that mean Mjolnir MK5B is safe since it lacks an AI interface

scarlet quiver
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🤔

humble yacht
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what makes you think Mk V b lacks an ai interface?

grand iris
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It was said that MK5B being a prototype lacked some features to the final version like an AI interface

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or i might be wrong

viscid salmon
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Well Six did carry Cortana on his back.

versed helm
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Shoulda yeeted her

viscid salmon
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All MJOLNIR suits should be safe provided an AI doesn't actually get in.

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They never expanded on that instance in Halo 2 where Cortana can be transferred by touch.

humble yacht
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that must have been an upgrade to the Mark VI

obsidian thistle
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The Halopedia team grouped the novels under "series" to assist us a tad due to how the big massive list was daunting to many.

My suggestion is to pick one that takes your fancy

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If your wanting to prepare for a novel that is releasing soon. The Ferrets series works great

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And the "A Master Chief Story" series is great for preparing for Halo Infinite.

slim thorn
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I'm more curious about how Ferrets and S-III will met SoF

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Isabel will definitely track them.

obsidian thistle
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Though no harm in starting with the "Original quadrilogy" to give ya some good context to stuff. (Though Halo Mythos is a great alternative to jumping through that loops)

slim thorn
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Hopefully we got a confirmation that the event was indeed on The Ark.

unique rune
versed helm
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So what are your most favorite things about the ODSTs?

obsidian thistle
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Halopedians are taught to look into everything carefully. Dig every piece of info they can excavate out of a source. ;)

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Who knows maybe we'll hit gold like the Razorback in I Love Bees aha

versed helm
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So how much of I Love Bees made it into the Halo canon?

viscid salmon
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A little.

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SPDR is ilb

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And the razorback is implied to be as well

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In Chapter 1 Jan James implies to have "turtled a razor-back"

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I want a Moons spin off game.

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Reverse laws of motion pool championship

obsidian thistle
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A lotta stuff actually

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To much to list

obsidian thistle
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Like seriously a lotta lore surrounding, ancillary, or direct was continued/mentioned in other Halo media!

viscid salmon
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ilb really expanded upon Earth and quality of life in the 26th

charred cargo
ripe crow
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Silentium is certainly interesting so far, two big twists in a few chapters

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||Faber and the original Didact still being alive||

viscid salmon
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It gets better

ripe crow
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||I think it’s safe to say that the Iso-Didact isn’t the one in halo 4, he doesn’t fit the role, so I’m assuming the one in 4 is the original||

viscid salmon
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||Correct.||

ripe crow
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||I thought so.||

viscid salmon
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||But the trick is finding out what drove him to that point.||

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||And more importantly just what happened to the Iso-Didact||

versed helm
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||I believe a gravemind corrupted his mind and made him hate humanity but I could be wrong||

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Dear god what is this an oni report?

viscid salmon
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Maybe. Maybe not.

versed helm
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Maybe someone knows and corrects me but that's what I remember

viscid salmon
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Time is a funny thing inside the Domain.

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We've never had an account of what it's actually like in there.

versed helm
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Because ai can only use it

viscid salmon
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Domain is sort of like a Palantir. To quote Gandalf the Grey, "You never know who else might be watching."

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Well this wasn't always the case. Any Forerunner could access the Domain.

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To call it the Internet is underselling it.

versed helm
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Ahhh

viscid salmon
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It's a combination of the Internet, the family crypt, and a local yoga gym.

versed helm
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Thank you for correcting

viscid salmon
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Forerunners could gain access to info sure.

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But some knowledge or personality is imprinted on it, so some secrets of old could be passed on

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And it is also used for a place of meditation.

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This was the plan ||when the Librarian locked Didactic away in the cryptum||

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But eh... ||things didn't go as planned||

versed helm
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Did they set off all halos when they wiped themselves out?

viscid salmon
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That's a long story.

versed helm
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I like long stories

viscid salmon
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I'll sum it up and this is a spoiler for Silentium, so at your own peril.

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||the reverse is sort of true.||

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||the halos nixed the domain.||

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||And as a result a very, very angry man went without the internet for a hundred thousand years||

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Spoilers done.

versed helm
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Thank you.

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Now I know. craighearts

viscid salmon
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This isn't much of a spoiler since it's in Halo 4 but whatever, ||the domain is sort of still around in Halo 4.||

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The gravemind is a crafty little dude.

versed helm
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"Little"

viscid salmon
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Relatively speaking

versed helm
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Is the gravemind still alive? I remember the protogravemind from hw2 but

viscid salmon
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The gravemind never really dies.

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The consciousness is retained.

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The Gravemind in Halo 3 directly references its fight with the Forerunners.

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How I imagine it works is that when a protogravemind reaches critical mass it taps into its collective memory.

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Then you're in trouble.

versed helm
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Nah I can beat jt

craggy sierra
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Every gravemind is the same gravemind

obsidian thistle
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And on paper no one really dies when they are infected with a Gravemind present as the Gravemind seemingly can just yank their consciousness out to use like a puppet. Which seems like a fate worse than death.

Honestly makes you feel for everyone infected as they'll legit never get peace as long as a Gravemind exists.

versed helm
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Keyes....

viscid salmon
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I may have taken some liberties but as I said, we don't know what happens to a consciousness after it gets absorbed.

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Like the Flood and Composing are two sides of a similar coin.

terse lava
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I always figured the mind of the being, while their knowledge is now part of the hive, experience this st first as just trapped in their own ruined body.

agile plinth
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Halo: Oblivion question with some spoilers, but for those who know more than me: ||Do we know more of what happens with the Luminal Beacons that ONI unknowingly intercepted? Has that been fleshed out yet? Why did the Covenant not follow them to ONI?|| I checked Halopedia and couldn't get an answer.

gilded mason
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||Nothing more has come of that yet.||

agile plinth
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Good to know. Thanks.

obsidian thistle
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Most of the time the answer is. Plot thread is loose and waiting to be picked up and used for something else

lusty widget
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Prior to Halo 2 terminals, was it ever mentioned how Regret knew where Delta Halo was?

gilded mason
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Don't think so

terse lava
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Same, don't recall anything

versed helm
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I am guessing a random slipspace jump

gilded mason
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I don't think that'd be it

craggy sierra
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Space is big, you don't usually randomly jump and end up at points of interest.

fair hazel
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I don’t think the floral express did a random jump

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I think random is an excuse

versed helm
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Even coincidence can't properly explain it. Pretty sure this is how PoA jumped out near 04, right?

terse lava
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No, Cortana lied. She had used coordniates from Reach, combined with coordniates within a crystal

versed helm
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Ohhh.

versed helm
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If chief didn't punch through Keye's brain in in CE would he eventually become a gravemind?

main rivet
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Part of a Gravemind, maybe.

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At the point Chief punched through him Keyes was no longer Keyes, and smashing his skull didn't actually kill the Proto-Gravemind he was a part of.

versed helm
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Yeah I thought it would take setting the dumpling on fire.

main rivet
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It's never really made clear how much biomass (or how much accumulated smarts in that biomass) you actually need. Given the size of the Proto-Gravemind in Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2 I'm inclined to think it's much, much bigger than something that would easily fit in the Truth and Reconciliation, but I don't think you clearly need a full-fledged Gravemind to be very dangerous (the threat of the keyminds in Mona Lisa and Infinite Succor.)

vernal notch
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Was oni responsible for the invasion on reach? I couldnt really find any info on it, but its been stuck in my mind

main rivet
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Like with Earth, the discovery of Reach got backfilled into a bunch of different factors happening upon the site at the same time because of halo: Reach's timeline.

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So basically Reach was screwed because either 1) they were going to find it just in the natural course of the war, 2) they were going to find it because of the Forerunner relics there, or 3) they were going to find it because of the trackers they used like the one attached to the Iroquois.

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I don't know why 343 didn't just retcon the timestamps for Halo: Reach rather than twist themselves into knots trying to make things fit, but I guess especially early on striking parts of the canon so substantially might have been a bridge too far insofar as alienating people.

tepid barn
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they just made the book and the game coexist so

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u can go of of any timeline ig idk

hasty geyser
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Poorly

carmine sleet
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The Fall of Reach came out years before the game did. Bungie purposefully ignored the established timeline within the novel and did their own thing. 343i, not wanting to retcon one or the other out of the continuity did what they did to keep them both canon

hasty geyser
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Do we know exactly when the true extent of HC War became known to humanity or nah?

versed helm
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I think it spread out like wildfire from Harvest itself

last anchor
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The UNSC revealed what was going on pretty quickly I think

craggy sierra
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They said it was happening but apparently few civillians knew how bad it was until the covenant were on their doorstep.

slim thorn
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But, it was not entirely his fault as Stanforth could order all ships to withdraw immediately after the battle of Sigma Octanus IV

humble yacht
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the covenant found reach independently of tracking Keyes

last anchor
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The Fleet of...whatever it was that the CSO was leading knew of the planets existence because of the Forerunner relics on it.
Thats why the CSO was the first on the ground and, until Thel and his fleet rolled up, combat was actually minor enough that the Army alone could hold the line without much issue. It was mainly regulated to the Viery territory (until Noble revealed the Supercarrier and required direct intervention against THAT too)

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Thel's Fleet of Particular Justice showed up after the party started because they heard there was a good fight going on and they wanted IN

drowsy sonnet
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The flood will starve if they eat the entire universe because there'll be no one else to infect unless they learn how to jump between universes.

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If you haven't played Halo CE That is.

lean karma
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So with a lot of subtle references to christian culture in halo with the meta of the Ark, and the Flood the parallels with the Covenant and angel higherarchy ODST and the nine rings of hell etc. ... I'm curious... With "the hand of atriox" which is four fingers. And with the concept art about the four leaders of the hand of atriox containing the three banished brutes and the elite guy (can't remember thier funky names besides hyperius and eschurum) do we think this is a subtle nod to the four horsemen of the apocalypse? If that were too be the case and it were a nod to cult religion as the Bungie era did... Do you think it has a similar premise to how the story in thier texts plays out??

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Knowing halo is trying to revisit the classic style to please the fans the writing may have a similar style to it... And knowing what we know now we may be able to predict big things about the design and story before it releases by finding either ancient mythology or cult stories that have parallels

steep ether
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i never thought of it that way, but aside from the reference to the 4 horsemen, i doubt that it would effect the story line much

lean karma
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If you go into revelations the four horsemen each bring a certain plague with them... Kind of like how the state of the ring may be or each section of the ring with those different bosses may be in parallel with the story also they are the four horsemen of the apocalypse are a head way for "a seven headed dragon" that resembles Satan. How many halo rings are there? Seven the dragon could represent atriox but more likely if this were all somehow the case could represent the flood... In the end of the story the earth is destroyed with fire and the astroid belts sent smashing into the earth from god. This could happen in a further destruction if the ring as it is now

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Although this doesn't parallel with the story like you said it definitely could help predict the level design like I'm saying you know?

fair hazel
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You’re looking at it too much pretty sure…

steep ether
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i agree

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interesting theory tho

lean karma
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Yeah I've been really diving into a bunch of different mythologies and apocalyptic prophecies since rocket sloths videos on ODST

humble yacht
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since the banished are basically secular covenant, i doubt there is any deeper meaning behind the naming of the Hand

lean karma
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Want to prepared for anything Infinite may throw at us in reference

carmine sleet
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It was most likely Atriox going "Hey, a group called Hand of Atriox sounds cool, right guys?" to the Banished members who joined the Hand of Atriox

humble yacht
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besides, famine and pestilence don't really fit the banished MO

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they're all about war and death

steep ether
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i definitely understand the reference, and it is a possibility. but as i said before, 343 wouldn't make it affect the story line.

lean karma
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I'm not trying to predict the story

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lean karma
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I did that last time 🤦

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Sorry chimera

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Bad habit

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Either way

carmine sleet
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I'm confused as to why the level design of a Halo game would be affected by a potential Biblical reference in the first place? As a level designer myself, I don't go "Let's see what obscure reference I can make with the level". I go "What can I do with the mechanics I have been told are in this game to make a fun experience for players"

steep ether
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?

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or something bigger

lean karma
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One second let me explain

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Yes

steep ether
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yes what

carmine sleet
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So you're not talking about the level design?

humble yacht
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it wouldn't really make sense for the Hand of Atriox to be a horsemen reference if the other horsemen are represented not by the members but by the landscape

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Bungie's biblical references were pretty obvious, not so much "silent storytelling"

steep ether
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yea

humble yacht
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the flood was literally a wave of destruction that washed over the galaxy

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the ark was built to save the galaxy from the flood and had the genetic samples of different races on it

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halos are rings

lean karma
# carmine sleet So you're not talking about the level design?

I'm saying it's both: the story could have parallel with how the events play out or at least... Like in ODST with the nine rings of hell and the way each of the missions are represented by what each of the nine rings stood four. It's both an Easter egg and a story design if you know the story...

steep ether
humble yacht
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huh?

lean karma
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So if the infinite story has a reference to any sort of ancient mythology parts of levels or even events that reference different things from those stories could be figure out

humble yacht
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uh, calling christian references "mythology" is pretty lol

carmine sleet
humble yacht
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i imagine people would take offense to that

steep ether
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yeah

lean karma
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Rip sorry offending religious people I'm just looking at the stories

last anchor
carmine sleet
steep ether
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agreed

carmine sleet
humble yacht
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also this "ODST and the nine rings of hell" thing is not something i've ever heard, i think that just may be something you projected

last anchor
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We sorted out the multi-conversation deal then?
Oh, wait, looks like Discord did it for us. Sweet

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I think the ODST rings comes from Sadies Story specifically

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The events of the game itself are far closer to a Firefly episode than anything else

humble yacht
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it's certainly not built into the levels

lean karma
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Listen though this IS a thing I'm not crazy to believe a story about a carpenter named Noah that could be compared to the master builder that built the rings and the ark as a safe haven from the flood has a reference to a giant wooden boat that held all of life on it while a literally flood cleansed the earth has some sort of parallel

humble yacht
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the ninth ring of hell is the frozen ring but the last level of ODST is outside in the sun

humble yacht
lean karma
humble yacht
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but also notice that all the biblical references have to do with the Forerunners

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steep ether
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how are you coming up with these theory's that actually make sense

lean karma
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Because it's true

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Trust me

humble yacht
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he didn't come up with those theories

lean karma
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Exactly

carmine sleet
lean karma
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Because I'm not crazy other people notice these rhings

humble yacht
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it's very obvious that bungie made biblical references when designing forerunner names for structures

lean karma
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I'm just ahead of the curve trying to prodict with limited knowledge rather than figure out after words

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If there is anything

last anchor
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Some of the terminals hinted it was Forerunner translation tech doing it too.
Like the Maginot Line

lean karma
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It's all a wild theory but one with a reasonable logic behind it

humble yacht
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there isn't that much logical flow thinking the hand of atriox is a reference to the horsemen off the apocalypse