Elite ai in ce frightens me
#lore-and-universe
faint stone
jade wave
Reach elite ai were superior to halo ce elite ai
tepid vault
The melee was nightmare fuel in reach
terse lava
I think the CE ones are still better then reach. The always seem to keep their distance rather then attempt to close with you
versed helm
They certainly love to jump off bridges in CE.
jade wave
I think I had a stroke when I read this cause what I read was not what you said I am very sorry
versed helm
what was this suppose to be the flood i remember seeing this when i was little
ew it burns my eyes
I believe that was fraudulent art work for Halo 4.
ohh
There is no purpose behind the image, other than to deceive people and gain their attention.
gotcha
pulsar pivot
Either way I dont want to see that gravemind ever
versed helm
The relevance of my description is pretty amusing, lol. It applies to every false statement regarding Halo Infinite.
goi on
carmine sleet
The relevance of my description is pretty amusing, lol. It applies to every fals...
Ain't that the truth. Way too many people going about spreading false info
versed helm
Yeah, to summarise, people keep spreading misinformation about the game.
carmine sleet
Still wish that one person hadn't made an April Fools Joke about the game being delayed again
versed helm
That entire event demonstrated how eager everyone was to believe in such lies, lol.
carmine sleet
To quote Quentin Beck, it's easy to fool someone when they're already fooling themself
versed helm
It also proved that 343i are the only credible source of information for the game, at the moment.
carmine sleet
I mean, that was kinda obvious
versed helm
It was not blatant enough, apparently.
I believe that Kotaku made the mistake of publishing the post as official information.
carmine sleet
They did
versed helm
you think they will make the halo movie
vocal aspen
They already have
versed helm
the one for hbo or stars what ever it was
is it worth watching this
WOW thats a long video
pulsar pivot
That's not a official movie
versed helm
Landfall includes footage from a cancelled film that was being directed by Neill Blomkamp.
vocal aspen
is it worth watching this
If you’re really in to watching that ridiculously long video than yeah.
versed helm
This is my favourite trailer that Bungie ever released.
i heard district 9 is halolandfall
versed helm
How
lyric cedar
i feel like the didact is a marval Villon
carmine sleet
District 9 rose from the ashes of the Halo movie
gilded mason
I can't believe we're finally getting a sequel.
carmine sleet
Halo Landfall is not footage from the Halo movie as they never actually got that out of preproduction
vocal aspen
i feel like the didact is a marval Villon
Uh what?
Didact doesn’t really act like any marvel villain iirc.
lyric cedar
Didact doesn’t really act like any marvel villain iirc.
yea but for some reason i think he would fit in the marval universe😭
humble yacht
He does monologue a bit and he’s got cosmic powers
lyric cedar
kinda like ultron but without the comedic lines
carmine sleet
To be fair, Ultron in the MCU isn't the most accurate depiction of a villain in the MCU. His comic book counterpart is much less comedic
And allot more cold and calculating
humble yacht
James Spader brought some life to ultron
lyric cedar
didact and ultron both have badass voice actors
versed helm
Halo Landfall is not footage from the Halo movie as they never actually got that...
I thought that it did include prototype footage from the film?
Film's will never be perfectly accurate to lore
humble yacht
I’m pretty sure that footage that was supposed to be in the halo movie was repurposed for district 9
versed helm
Landfall was a Halo:3 trailer. They were trying to find the Chief's landing coordinates
versed helm
I’m pretty sure that footage that was supposed to be in the halo movie was repur...
A friend of mine claims that you can see a Scorpion in one of the scenes. Do you know if that is true?
humble yacht
Nope
pulsar pivot
So since graveminds learn from what they infect I wonder what all that one gravemind knew when he got the prophet of mercy
unique rune
Probably just bits and pieces of Covenant history blended with political maneuvering
slim thorn
That makes the main question I give couple of days before was like remains questionable. I kinda doubt that Gravemind possess strong attitude, considering he is manipulative, but applies mind-invasive doctrine. Someone from Yuri could mind-control him with ease if his mind is actually weak.
humble yacht
Why would you think the gravemind would have a weak mind?
Everything about it suggests it has a strong will
pulsar pivot
And it is very intelligent
craggy sierra
Also all gravemind's are the same. It downloads it's consciousness from the intergalactic flesh cloud or whatever.
So the gravemind of H2 is functionally the same one that saw the encounters with the forerunners up to the firing of the array.
shy hedge
Are there any reasons the covenant speak English? Other than gameplay
gilded mason
Mostly because of translators, sometimes because they want to taunt you.
gilded mason
Probably
storm helm
When I say English I mean Modern English
Yeah many things about Earth in halo aren’t realistic
vocal aspen
Wouldn’t English be extinct by the 2500’s?
There’s no possible way it would be in the form it is in now realistically.
But then again, we are talking about a game with modified humans that fight in robotic suits
ruby cobalt
Is chief just lucky or is he truly the greatest spartan in the universe. Cuz I often hear people saying that he is just lucky.
gilded mason
He's an average Spartan that has the benefit of being the guy we play as
The actual """"best"""" Spartan would probably be Linda or Fred
If such a thing could be quantified
gilded mason
Yes, though they're all things other Spartans could do if they had access to the equipment or opportunity.
ruby cobalt
And the arbiter? Is he just lucky or actually powerful. Cuz he seems wayy more powerful than most elites. After all isn’t he that ordered the assault on Reach?
stable flower
Arby is lucky he didn't get infected by the Flood even when walking in contaminated areas.
terse lava
Funny how that never really is addressed
ruby cobalt
Maybe it’s the shields
humble yacht
If the shields could keep out spores then they’d probably also keep out air
terse lava
Always just chalked it up to plot, or you could try arguing nanobots in Thel's body like in Broken Circle
versed helm
He's an average Spartan that has the benefit of being the guy we play as
Master chief is the best because he save the world twice
gentle ridge
How much can a spartan lift in and out of armour
gentle ridge
Has that happened outside of game mechanics?
vocal aspen
Master chief is the best because he save the world twice
Any Spartan could do that given the chance.
slim thorn
Any Spartan could do that given the chance.
Not all of it. Master Chief's natural trait enables him to do so.
carmine sleet
Chief doesn't have a natural trait that enables him to save the world
steep ether
He's an average Spartan that has the benefit of being the guy we play as
he's still the master chief. its not like its just a label, it means something. plus he has an insane amount of luck
carmine sleet
He just happened to be the Spartan on the Autumn that was able to fight in CE
He happened to be the only Spartan available during Halo 3 to stop the Flood
And in turn, that led to him being the only one able to stop the Ur-Didact in Halo 4
slim thorn
Chief doesn't have a natural trait that enables him to save the world
He does. If not, then will Hood and the UNSC brass put a trust on him?
carmine sleet
Didn't need to tag me
And you don't need to have some "I save worlds" trait to be trusted by someone
That's not how trust works
slim thorn
Don't forget his leadership capabilities.
steep ether
good point, but the choices he made got him into those positions. ex: he being the natural team leader
blue teams real leader is fred
yet chief still calls him blue 2
humble yacht
no, blue team's real leader is chief
slim thorn
Blue Team's actual leader is chief
humble yacht
you're mistaking Fred's rank with his role in blue team
slim thorn
Fred is just taking his position when he's away in solo missions or not involving Blue Team
steep ether
i guess
slim thorn
Fred yield his leadership position to Chief when he returns to Blue Team
carmine sleet
Don't forget his leadership capabilities.
Chief being a good leader doesn't equate to him somehow having this trait you claim he has that allows him to save the world. Anyone could save the world
steep ether
but he still chooses to lead, not to be led
humble yacht
led*
steep ether
thank you
rustic nimbus
leded
steep ether
lol
humble yacht
Chief being a good leader doesn't equate to him somehow having this trait you cl...
that trait is his luck
slim thorn
Chief being a good leader doesn't equate to him somehow having this trait you cl...
Then again, he can rally those people to follow his lead.
carmine sleet
that trait is his luck
Yeah he's lucky but I wouldn't say that is really the thing that means he can save the world. I'm pretty lucky at times yet I've not found a way to save the world from climate change
humble yacht
different type of luck
steep ether
also, before anyone asks, we are not adding that he is the main plot character in the games
humble yacht
Chief's luck lets him survive otherwise unsurvivable scenarios
versed helm
I want that luck when I play
steep ether
falling from space, ecscaping the ark/rings, etc.
versed helm
Exactly
steep ether
and in halo 5, fred basically says that Chief is choosing to go on all these operations nonstop
humble yacht
yes, chief was purposefully driving himself really hard on nonstop missions so he wouldn't have to deal with the loss of Cortana
steep ether
thats part of it, but even though he could have just taken a break from fighting for a while, he chose to fight
humble yacht
if he took a break then he'd have time to think about it
he didn't want to think about it;
it's a common coping mechanism to overwork yourself to avoid processing grief
albeit unhealthy
gleaming vapor
Chief doesn't have a natural trait that enables him to save the world
actually yes, its luck
gilded mason
Luck isn't a natural trait somebody could have.
gleaming vapor
u havent played fallout then ✋
gleaming vapor
lmao ikik
steep ether
some people i think are misunderstanding what we mean by luck
he's lucky cause he can fall from space and survive, he can escape a ring he nuked, etc
not hes lucky he was on earth during the invasion
versed helm
So, just recently re-watched the starry night trailer for Halo 3. Isn't it funny that everything bungie made was canon. Cause that scene really happened
steep ether
?
humble yacht
they're just typing words backwards
not sure why
probably to get people to go "?"
slim thorn
Luck isn't a natural trait somebody could have.
It isn't.
versed helm
The Banished seems to be a faction that will eventually destroy itself.
slim thorn
Doubt it because Jiralhanae at their homeland now supports the Banished
versed helm
Banished forces were already fighting amongst themselves before John arrived on Reach.
Eliminating the "diplomatic" leaders will probably result in chaos.
Do you think that is an intentional flaw, their degree of organisation?
slim thorn
I think it does, considering they are the members that were originally set to be killed by the Covenant because of "heresy" or failures.
pulsar pivot
Mabye until then they will somewhat hold themselves together because of John being there
versed helm
They will undoubtedly compete over technology and equipment. We might even be able to witness that occur from a distance in Halo Infinite.
pulsar pivot
Yes brutes arent the most civilized creatures
versed helm
it's a common coping mechanism to overwork yourself to avoid processing grief
Me just getting off of work and seeing that
"Waaaa pffft noooo... crazy talk"
fair hazel
isnt it a common movie theme too
stable flower
The Banished were technically already fighting amongst each other in HW2, going by Yapyap's description.
I bet there'll be something like Halo 2's Gravemind level, where you get caught in the middle of the Great Schism after rescuing the marines.
fair hazel
A lot of the yapyap isn't canon
stable flower
Yeah, cause a lot of it seems like something out of a children's story IMO
timid skiff
do you think guys we will see humans affiliated to the Banished?
I personally dislike the idea but who knows, maybe that would add some tension. You know, humanity is struggling to survive, and then it shows off who are its heroes and who are its traitors.
slim thorn
do you think guys we will see humans affiliated to the Banished?
I will personally think that outlaws such as insurrectionist or maybe ONI joins it.
carmine sleet
Why would ONI join the Banished?
versed helm
The banished should wipe out Oni 👍
humble yacht
do you think guys we will see humans affiliated to the Banished?
No. Atriox has a distaste for humans, he would not let them join
slim thorn
Why would ONI join the Banished?
To do some Black Ops and getting intel from inside out. That's how ONI works, isn't it?
carmine sleet
That's different to saying that ONI should join the Banished
That would be them sending someone to infiltrate the organisation, not ONI joining them
Plus, you don't send everyone from one your intelligence agency to join the enemy
versed helm
Is there any aliens in oni at all, or have been?
Yes we got grunts working for counter intel
Also jackal snipers
humble yacht
Is there any aliens in oni at all, or have been?
No
carmine sleet
While not actually part of ONI, the Sangheili mercenary Ayit 'Sevi was employed by them during Halo Escalation
pulsar pivot
So technically we have no spies in the covenant
carmine sleet
Ayit was working with them in the post war
ONI did not have spies within the Covenant during the war
versed helm
Hard to b a spy when you're another species
pulsar pivot
Yeah
jade wave
Do we know the average life span of all the creatures in the covenant
we know that sangheili can live for at least 100 years and still be fit to serve in combat roles
still ibex
What is cortanas goal regarding the guardians and the mantle, and how does it actually effect the average person? Like, what are the negatives of being under the guardian rule?
carmine sleet
Basically no freedom, she wants to rule the galaxy with an iron fist
You step out of line and do something she doesn't want and you'll be punished for it
versed helm
All hail cortana and her beautiful galactic dominance
versed helm
These ambitions sound very similar to a specific faction in an alternate franchise.
shut dew
You step out of line and do something she doesn't want and you'll be punished fo...
So lazy writing for the sake of lazy writing?
Injustice Gods Among Us vibes
carmine sleet
Didn't need to tag me
shut dew
I don't even want to see 343i's take on the civilian's POV - it's so predictable that anyone who's read dystopian fiction from past and present would know exactly what's going on.
versed helm
No one is forcing you to read it.
shut dew
It's just Injustice Gods Among Us's Regime with shiny robots and EMPs.
gilded mason
we know that sangheili can live for at least 100 years and still be fit to serve...
200 human years, to clarify
jade wave
Do you know where thats stated, I only remember the old sangheili from Broken Circle
gilded mason
Do you know where thats stated, I only remember the old sangheili from Broken Ci...
Oblivion. Nizat notes he's been in the Covenant military for 100 Sangheili years
terse lava
@gilded mason didn't he specify the navy though?
versed helm
more Halo movie for Halo lore plz
gilded mason
<@260910412080480256> didn't he specify the navy though?
Yeah
terse lava
So really.he could have been serving for longer in the military before becoming a shipmaster and higher
teal ice
Your forefathers wisely set aside their compassions. Steel themselves, from what needed to be done.
versed helm
Who are you referencing?
versed helm
Do we know the average life span of all the creatures in the covenant
During human forerunner war sangheili life expectancy was around 27
pulsar pivot
But that was before the firing of the rings
versed helm
Also sangheili have better medical technology
pulsar pivot
I mean covenant
versed helm
Ancient humans lived for thousands of years
Spartans could possibly live for a hundreds of years
Johnson was in his 70s
pulsar pivot
Master chief is like 40 or 50
versed helm
Yes and he runs around like his in his 20s
pulsar pivot
Exactly
jade wave
Ancient humans lived for thousands of years
Where did you learn this?
jade wave
Johnson was in his 70s
And this is not an accurate representation of his age, Johnson spent a large part of his adult life in cryo sleep
gilded mason
Ye
versed helm
Where did you learn this?
Halo wiki the war went on for 1000 years the human guy forthenchenko not sure if I'm saying it right served throughout the whole war and still looked fit after all those years
versed helm
And this is not an accurate representation of his age, Johnson spent a large par...
Fair enough
terse lava
We don't know how long ancient humans could live, but 1000 years seems to be near the limit. Also no, Spartans don't live hundreds of years
versed helm
We don't know how long ancient humans could live, but 1000 years seems to be nea...
True but forerunners were executing humans who started the war thousand years ago so they had to be in position of power which takes time, also forechhenco was already a high ranking commander so he already got hundreds of years experience under his belt so thousands of years seems likely
terse lava
Centuirea work just as fine as well. We see Forthencho himself comment on the lifespans of humans and forerunners. Humans were candles compares to the blowtorch that was forerunner life extension
versed helm
Centuries wouldn't work because the commander was already high ranking and his still alive after end. Of the war aged but still fit
Also yes human lifespan paled in comparison to forerunners who probably were biologically immortal and could live for tens of thousands of years
Humans who were responsible for the war a thousand years ago were also executed so they had to have many years of experience to be in those positions of power
Thousands seem likely
terse lava
Why wouldn't centuries work? Look how far someone can go in decades, or look at Nizat, who held Fleetmaster in 200 human years
lyric cedar
folks need heros chief
jade wave
Why wouldn't centuries work? Look how far someone can go in decades, or look at ...
The wiki does in fact state that ancient humans possibly have a lifespan that could reach a thousand years
Wait no
It just says that forthenchos military career lasted for a thousand years at least
versed helm
Why wouldn't centuries work? Look how far someone can go in decades, or look at ...
explain how the commander of the humans forechhenco was able to fight a war with the forerunners for a thousand years but also on with the flood hundreds of years before that you don't get to be commander of the entire fleet or army without many years of experience so who knows how long this guy served for
The guy by the end was aged but still in fighting condition
versed helm
It just says that forthenchos military career lasted for a thousand years at lea...
Yes which proves ancient humans had lifespan possibly within thousands of years
terse lava
It doesn't prove that, we see how aged he was by the end. Am I saying AH is not capable of it? No, but we don't have anything showing they can live for multiple thousands. I figure an Ancient human average lifespan would be 12-1500 years long
jade wave
That sounds realistic enough considering forerunner lifespan
too bad Greg Bear didn't go into any detail about it
terse lava
Indeed, we don't even have an actual name for the AH civilization
jade wave
I doubt it really needs an official title
I think Ancient Humanity has plenty of interesting lore while still retaining some sense of mystery
like the Precursors
plus the forerunners are just called the Ecumene or Forerunner Ecumene
or however u spell it
terse lava
Eh always annoyed me they lack a title for neither their own civilization, or even the alliance they had with the San shyuum
jade wave
perhaps
versed helm
It doesn't prove that, we see how aged he was by the end. Am I saying AH is not ...
I probably think they live for 2000 years
At the very least
slim thorn
We don't know how long ancient humans could live, but 1000 years seems to be nea...
Well they do... Unless they can be like in the situation like Red Team (Which sleeps 28 years and their bio age is still around 20's).
versed helm
So who placed the Primordial in that asteroid at the galaxy's edge?
pulsar pivot
Mabye the primordial
versed helm
Or what else is known about the location of where the Primordial was imprisoned, other than it being some sort of small but damaged planetoid or asteroid
limpid meadow
It may have placed itself there, it may have been placed there by other Precursors, it may have drifted there over the 9 million years it was floating around. We really don't know one way or another.
versed helm
I can't remember what glassing beams where used for aggh
red finch
Vermin thats what.
slim thorn
I was just praying that Chief will visit the Primordial Prison at 07, or what was left of it.
red finch
That would be cool
chilly shuttle
Indeed.
river moon
what do yall think happened to fireteam osris?
versed helm
Buck left, Tanaka is still annoying, Locke is working at a bar now and Vale idk
carmine sleet
Locke isn't working in a bar, he's still active duty, same with Tanaka and Vale
vocal aspen
What made you think he worked at a bar?
carmine sleet
My guess is they didn't read Bad Blood properly
Because while Locke and Osiris are seen in a bar, Locke isn't the one serving drinks
jade wave
I think he was joking man
carmine sleet
I think he was joking man
Hard to tell if people are joking here half the time, I've seen some people genuinely believe some very inaccurate information in the past
versed helm
with all their augmentations why even drink alcohol as their bodies so effecient at removing toxins they would never get drunk
humble yacht
Symbolism, probably
carmine sleet
Even if their bodies filter out the toxins, it's still a recreational activity that no doubt helps them all relax
versed helm
Does alcohol even leave an effect on Spartans?
carmine sleet
It doesn't
steep ether
it quenches their thirst
versed helm
Not every type of alcoholic drink "quenches your thirst".
carmine sleet
Alcohol literally dehydrates you
steep ether
good point
versed helm
idk i dont drink
Neither do I, lol.
Did the alien races produce alcoholic drinks, or ones that left similar effects?
steep ether
i assume so, the unggoy had benzene which is sorta similar
humble yacht
Lol benzene is not similar to ethanol
versed helm
I think he was referring to how benzene left similar effects to alcohol, upon consuming it.
steep ether
halopedia directly said that it is a recreational drug, so its basically alcohol for grunts
also i didn't relate it to ethanol
humble yacht
Ethanol is the active ingredient of most alcoholic beverages
Well, all alcoholic beverages
Other types of alcohol like methanol and isopropanol are too toxic to humans for consumption
Chemically, benzene is way different from any alcoholic molecule
steep ether
what im saying is that its probably addictive to grunts and is a recreational drug like alcohol to humans
and dont correct me saying that alcohol is not a drug or whatever, I know
versed helm
No, I believe that it is actually considered as being a drug.
steep ether
sometimes
delicate notch
Which youtube channels on the Halo lore do you guys follow? I do SameToken, HiddenXperia and EckhartsLadder. I was a subscriber to "HaloFollower" a while too, but I heard he was basically copying others work so I stopped.
versed helm
I watched Same token vid on the Halo timeline
I liked how he told most of the story in only 35 minutes. And it wasn't boring
delicate notch
(Watching that again as we speak tbh 😄 )
versed helm
Lol nice. Yeah he has a nice delivery to his videos. Puts life into em. And his jokes are nice xD
delicate notch
I agree! His channel do deserve more followers imo, but I guess his pretty slow upload tears into that.
versed helm
Yeah imma check out more if his videos
I mean I rather have 1 very nicely made video every month then 20 crappy dumb videos every month
delicate notch
Yea. And I like how he doesn't give too much of his own opinion too, he just say it likes it told, no 3 minute tangent about what he thinks. I like when they give their own opinion too, dont get me wrong, but its nice to have one channel without it.
versed helm
Yeah that's nice
vocal aspen
Which youtube channels on the Halo lore do you guys follow? I do SameToken, Hidd...
Installation 00 is a good one, I guess HiddenXperia is okay, but he tries to make any little detail a “hint” that the flood is in infinite.
delicate notch
Installation 00 is a good one, I guess HiddenXperia is okay, but he tries to mak...
Yea! Almost forgot about Installation00, that channel is great
versed helm
Flood I doubt will be in Infinite because I'm 90% sure it'll be rated T
versed helm
Halo 5 was
carmine sleet
Basically some people are still not happy Halo 5 was rated T in the US because somehow the game rating, which is decided by an outside organisation from 343i, has a baring on the quality of the game according to a select group of people
versed helm
Technically I think all Halos in Europe are Rated 16 but in the US all the FPS games are M besides 5 and and everything else like Halo wars is T
Spartan Strike might have been E10+ too
delicate notch
A really gory Halo game would be cool tho.
versed helm
Not imo. U want gore go play something else. I don't like gore lol. It's just gross
carmine sleet
I'd rather Halo not go gory for the sake of being gory
delicate notch
No ofc. not gory for the sake of gore. But wars are pretty gruesome and slimy aliens like the flood aint "Rated PG"
versed helm
Basically some people are still not happy Halo 5 was rated T in the US because s...
Rating doesn't effect a game unless the developers wants a certain rating. It effects the type of audience your getting more then the game
carmine sleet
I know, I'm going into the games industry
versed helm
Rated T is as far as I go. I don't play rated m because it's mostly just gore n cussing
delicate notch
Movies I can understand developing a movie with a certain rating in mind, since it will increase the number of potential cinema goers. But unless you're making a game directly aimed towards kids or a game extremely gory, developing a game for aimed for a rating seems stupid.
versed helm
It can be
It just depends on the game as u stated
343 may or may not even care about what their games are rated
Halo imo is kinda on the line between Teen and Mature. It's more of in-between probably then either of them
delicate notch
I would rather see a mature game than a teen one, or at least a setting which would enable mature for those who are of age.
versed helm
It depends on the game
Not to go too off topic. But a game like no man's sky having tons of gore n language and being rated Mature would be dumb. Halo on the other hand can be a bit brutal at times
delicate notch
I have been talking about Halo the entire time 😉
versed helm
Yeah I meant me making an example of NMS lol
delicate notch
NMS with gruesome aliens in Deadspace style would be cool tho. But I guess I got Deadspace for that 😄
delicate notch
Think of all the colorful gore!
versed helm
😂
gentle ridge
Or what else is known about the location of where the Primordial was imprisoned,...
Alucard unblock me
lean karma
Rated T is as far as I go. I don't play rated m because it's mostly just gore n ...
So you've never played MCC? that's a dmn shame
Not sure why game ratings is in lore and universe chat tho
Big question I do have is we know there were around 75 spartan II candidate finalists but I'm curious as to how many Orion project candidates there were and how many like johnson made it through as I think we only ever here of three in lore ever... Johnson, Parongowski, and Mendez I think??
May be wrong I only own half the books need to keep collecting them
versed helm
Not sure why game ratings is in lore and universe chat tho
Sorry might have went a bit off topic, originally was talking about good YT channels for lore and stuff. And no havent played MCC, only Halo 5 and Halo wars
normal moon
Sorry might have went a bit off topic, originally was talking about good YT chan...
If you haven't played the game before Halo 5, I highly recommend you to get the MCC or the original games, you'll get a better understanding of the Halo universe 😉
celest leaf
Yeah get it, its very worth it
normal moon
Well what are you waiting for man
nimble heart
Big question I do have is we know there were around 75 spartan II candidate fina...
Only 75 were chooses for the first class of Spartan twos. 150 kids were observed. Only around 33 of the made it past augmentations. As for the Orion project. Mendez nor parongowisk were a Orion canadidate. Johnson is one of six know Orion candidates. The other five aren’t as detailed
velvet canopy
Hello, I have a question, why did humans not see forerunners as gods like many other species in the Halo universe?
nimble heart
Hello, I have a question, why did humans not see forerunners as gods like many o...
We didn’t know about them
Is the short answer
If you want the long answer, let me know
velvet canopy
well, I know that the other species believe in them because their planets have technology but the earth has the portal to the ark, it's a bit strange for me
jade wave
They did not know the portal was there
steep ether
Hello, I have a question, why did humans not see forerunners as gods like many o...
ancient humans or modern humans
jade wave
And earlier iterations of humans worshipped the forerunners
velvet canopy
They did not know the portal was there
that's the strange thing
jade wave
The forerunners could have installed various dazzelers and bafflers
nimble heart
that's the strange thing
It’s hinted in ODST that they did find something
jade wave
Or perhaps most humans have a geas that causes them to stay away from it
Also humanity of the unsc’s time is still relatively new
All other species have had countless years of interaction with forerunner stuff
velvet canopy
interesting answers, thank you very much
limpid meadow
I think people grossly underestimate how deep beneath the surface the portal was buried.
Any sort of geas being used to keep Humanity away from the portal seems unlikely if only because it was such a last-minute addition.
That said, it's certainly possible, and besides just being deep, there could have been other Forerunner tech that camoflagued it in some manner.
jade wave
Dazzlers and bafflers probably
limpid meadow
Basically, yeah.
But mostly I think it's just buried pretty deep in a place Humanity had no desire to dig deep in.
fair hazel
One thing I like about the construction of the portal is how rushed it seems
strong tinsel
Forerunners hid it too well
fair hazel
Like last minute attempt by the librarian
strong tinsel
fair hazel
Diverting chant to green from her post. Like heeding the call that would sage Chant’s life
The giant forerunner ship being repurposed
Humans being saved and catalogued
A narrow key point
jade wave
Is this explained in silintium or a story from fractures
Or however you spell silintium
terse lava
Yeah, it talked about in Silentium, and a Bungie era comic as well focused on a primitive human
karmic bluff
limpid meadow
All that was done because the Didact has committed last-minute genocide against Humanity
A huge chunk of the collected specimens the Librarian had were killed, so she had to rush back to Earth, gather a few of the remaining humans, then modify her plans
The comic Ado is talking about is "Cradle of Life", which was part of Halo 3's IRIS ARG.
fair hazel
The sense of urgency from that event and improvisation
I don’t know how to fully describe the feeling
limpid meadow
Yeah. It's amazing how well that comes across in the text of Silentium.
That whole book oozes with escalating tension in a way I never thought a book could really do.
limpid meadow
I felt like I was reading through chapters faster and faster as the ending approached, simply from the rising tension
fair hazel
The imminence of it all.
Also the certain calmness of rebirth later on.
The stories with the forerunners at the end or post firing have a certain feeling to them.
And even point of light blended modern elements with those elements
lean karma
Only 75 were chooses for the first class of Spartan twos. 150 kids were observed...
yes I' know the spartan II stories like the back of my hand, who are the other five Orion candidates?
nimble heart
Gunnery Sergeant Gladys Wilson
Gilly
James Lee
Morales
Orion Candidate 047
limpid meadow
James Lee. Who later changes his surname to James. Becoming "James James", lol
I would love to hear the though process behind that. From a production standpoint and in-universe
fair hazel
I recently listened to the interview with Eric trautmann
Yikes. Too bad he doesn’t follow halo anymore. Halo would be very different without him and his tenacity
Thankful for him
limpid meadow
Same
I'm really happy with the HGN, but I'd love to hear the pitch for his monthly comic.
fair hazel
I saw you talk about it on Twitter so I looked it up. When was the interview from?
limpid meadow
2011
fair hazel
Oh wow. It would honestly be cool if he was interviewed more recently and brought up with the history of halo’s fiction expanding and how his work impacted what is halo now and the shifts.
dense falcon
Was Bungie ever questioned about the canonicity of Halo: Reach? With Spartan-IIIs being a secret until Halsey went to Onyx and all. Was there ever an answer to that canon question?
jade wave
yes
Halsey mentions it in her journal and I think either glasslands or ghosts of onyx
she just says she didn't know who's spartans they were
and that was about it
dense falcon
I thought she said she knew every Spartan-II there was 🤨
dense falcon
Yes I know that, hence why I ask
jade wave
I thought she said she knew every Spartan-II there was 🤨
Then I dont understand what you mean by this
dense falcon
Why is Halo Reach canon in the sense of Dr. Halsey meeting the rest of Noble team? She acts like she knows exactly who they are, but they were supposed to be a secret until she found out in Ghosts of Onyx
jade wave
She just acts like they are military personal
Halsey's journal tries to offer more insight
gilded mason
She basically wrote "Who in the world are these Spartans? I know I didn't make them. Did they continue the Spartan II program without me?"
She just doesn't know the specifics until GoO
versed helm
Does zeta halo orbit around planet?
gilded mason
Does zeta halo orbit around planet?
Yes, a planet that supports life, even
versed helm
Anyone know exactly what planet? Becuse at the end of halo5 we can see planet but in infinite gameplay and trailers we don't see any planet?
gilded mason
We don't know much about the planet
versed helm
Maybe ring teleport ever few month to new location
jade wave
I doubt Zeta Halo would have enough power to create such a portal
gilded mason
I doubt Zeta Halo would have enough power to create such a portal
Halo rings can enter slipspace
gilded mason
Yes
jade wave
In Primordium the way they described it generating power seemed to say it took alot out of the ring when it opened up a portal
versed helm
Guys right now banished is on the ark or reach? Or zeta halo?
jade wave
could be all 3 of them
gilded mason
Guys right now banished is on the ark or reach? Or zeta halo?
Ark and 07
Not on Reach anymore
versed helm
They have enough man power?
gilded mason
Apparently
versed helm
Not on Reach anymore
What about atriox? He is still on ark ?
gilded mason
Nope, he left the Ark
delicate notch
Ola Salo left "The Ark", not Atriox.
gilded mason
wut
delicate notch
Search for "The Ark - It Takes A Fool To Remain Sane" (On Youtube). The singer is Ola Salo, its a bad joke mostly swedes will understand. The band is really great tho, so I recommend them 😄
gilded mason
Ah, I was wondering what you were referencing
carmine sleet
The joke really didn't work
limpid meadow
Yes, a planet that supports life, even
I don't think it's been said whether it supported life, was it? I just recall the planet being rocky and having liquid water, which could allow life to arise, but doesn't mean it did.
gilded mason
I'll double-check
delicate notch
Ofc it does, the moon has water and we all know the moon is haunted.
limpid meadow
Ghosts aren't life, duh
delicate notch
I wonder what kind of artifacts will be reviled in Infinite.
Depends on the ghost.
limpid meadow
A cursory glance at the text doesn't mention life on the anchor planet, as far as I can see.
gilded mason
I don't think it's been said whether it supported life, was it? I just recall th...
“Most anchors are gas giants to avoid the possibility of life arising in the shadow of a ring or luring in potential settlers. Not only is this planet solid, but it contains water and atmosphere. The choice is quite extraordinary, though perhaps a choice of necessity.”
At seven hundred kilometers out, long-range scanners perked up. Rion glanced at her integrated pad as Niko relayed relevant information. “Looks like the UNSC has a couple nice comm towers set up on the planet’s surface and a few commsats in orbit.”
Well, it has atmosphere, but it doesn't say what its composition is. I probably just assumed.
limpid meadow
Yeah, that's what I remember.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were life forms present, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't explicitly mentioned and I'd missed it.
delicate notch
Anchors = Large planets used to hold rings and artifacts in place?
limpid meadow
Halo rings specifically in this case.
This is why each Halo ring orbits a planet, and why they're usually gas giants.
I have a theory that planet that Installation 03 orbits used to be a gas giant, but some cataclysmic event basically stripped it of its layers, leaving only the partially destroyed, rocky core behind.
delicate notch
Must have been a weird event if it managed to create a solid planet from gasses
limpid meadow
Gas giants aren't entirely gas. Heck, they mostly aren't
The upper layers are gaseous, but as you go deeper and pressure builds, the gasses are compressed into liquids, then solids. And at the center would be a solid core of some kind.
pulsar pivot
Yup
delicate notch
Isnt that more of a "the pressure is so high that gasses and metals starts to behave like liquid"
Rather than actual "surface"
limpid meadow
they basically are liquids and solids.
pulsar pivot
And some gas as well
limpid meadow
I was responding to MyScnd's statement, specifically.
Anyway, I don't know if it's possible to blow a gas giant's atmosphere away in such a manner. It seems unlikely. But something happened to that planet Gamma Halo orbits, and it's weird that it isn't a gas giant.
pulsar pivot
Mabye a bigger rock
limpid meadow
More likely another planet.
pulsar pivot
Probably
limpid meadow
And the fact that the ring is unaffected is interesting, too.
Like, regardless of whether the planet was a gas giant or not, that ring survived something wicked!
pulsar pivot
Yup
lucid depot
Wait
I've never looked into it but just played the games
But after the great war, are the citizens under the UNSC mostly xenophobic
jade wave
If an alien race tried to exterminate my race for existing I thibk I would be pretty xenophobic
lucid depot
^
fair hazel
It depends
jade wave
Most are probably xenophobic
Most people in human controlled space probably have only interacted with alien species when getting glassed
safe inlet
people in the human world won't dislike all "aliens"
and not all humans/unsc will dislike elites
lucid depot
That's why I said mostly
safe inlet
grouping everyone together and saying they are all "xenophobic" isn't always the answer
that's like saying are all britihs people xenophobic
safe inlet
yes some are but not everyone is
okay mostly then
still my point stands
did all/most people hate the Italians aftey they switched sides in ww2?
no they didn't
jade wave
Do most people hate Nazi’s?
safe inlet
i have no hatred towards them the same way i have no hatred to soviets
gilded mason
Most aliens wouldn't even have ever fought humans.
safe inlet
^
lucid depot
Most people do hate nazi's, even if they havnt met them
safe inlet
hate is a strong word
lucid depot
Same with pedophiles, although pedophiles are more hated
It's not an everyone will
It's a good amount of people will
And with the amount of people affected by glassings and losing their families across the galaxy to an enemy they have not met, they will develop negative views towards them
Likely resulting in widespread xenophobia
Not everyone will
But a large amount of people affected will
gilded mason
I wonder how many people even survive glassings to get to that point.
safe inlet
i mean hatred towards the movement not to the peple
lucid depot
Didnt say they survived the glassings, I said affected by glassings
safe inlet
people disliked the moveent in ww2 but look at germany now
most people don't just the german people of the past
lucid depot
Such as being offworld and then finding out your home planet has been glassed
safe inlet
generalisation is a problem
lucid depot
Your home and family reduced to nothing
I do think that after the events of halo 5 inter-species tensions would lessen with a new common enemy
But prior to halo 5 is what this question focuses on
pulsar pivot
Think for a second, not everyone is gonna hate or dislike elites because of what they did
People are gonna forgive
safe inlet
people would still dislike the species that were involved in the covernant dont get me wrong, but same as ww2 most people will not mind the species involvement in the conflict (in our time line the germans) but mind the no no germans or the covenant in halo
^
jade wave
I don’t really think using a human conflict is one of the best ways to compare these two events
We are talking about an alien species here, that is not human and is completely different from you
And the Covenant-Human war hasn’t been over for that long
lucid depot
But the issue is this wasnt just war for Conquest or anything
This was extermination vs survival
The covenant was outright trying to exterminate humanity
safe inlet
a lot of human vs human wars are the same
jade wave
I feel like you are not understanding the gravity of the human covenant war
lucid depot
That you barely know anything about
safe inlet
i mean in our time line a lot of interrace wars each side considered the other non-human
or inter-religion
lucid depot
Even though the covenant was lied to by the prophets, there would still be many that would hate those species that participated in the attempted eradication of humanity
safe inlet
hating some groups doesn't automatically make you "xenophobic" a current context human word
one person could like most known species but hate the profits and the elites
does that make them purely xenophobic?
lucid depot
If you like asians or blacks but hate whites, does that make you racist?
jade wave
I do not understand the point of this debate anymore
safe inlet
I do not understand the point of this debate anymore
nor do i
safe inlet
If you like asians or blacks but hate whites, does that make you racist?
lets say that one race persecuted you like the elites did in halo
this is why one word fits all does not work
this is why gender/racial politics is just wrong
this is just a hole we shouldn't be going down
jade wave
Why don’t we just go back to your original point
safe inlet
"grouping everyone together and saying they are all "xenophobic" isn't always the answer"
basically what i was saying
i haven't really moved from my point
jade wave
But what does that have to do with humanity and ex-covenant species
safe inlet
people forgive
and people realise that lets give that real life example again
not all germans were (the word)
lets go here as well not all muslims are terrorists
generalisation is a bad thing
not all covenant wanted to kill humans
it was just what they were ordered to do
safe inlet
just look at most human conflicts which is all we have to go off
jade wave
We are not talking about a human conflict
safe inlet
yeah i know that
but just look at elites
they started to side with the humans
did the majority of the ones in halo 3 want to kill their fellow allies ?
gilded mason
Can you prove that?
It was said that the younger generation of Sangheili was increasingly sympathetic to humanity's plight. A good number of other elites wanted humans in the Covenant and didn't get why the Hierarches won't let them, and according to Vale, many Elites on less central colonies disliked all the bloodshed.
jade wave
Bruh
safe inlet
and not trying to get the high ground on a bloody discord chat
jade wave
Ok
What I am saying is the majority of humans do not like any aliens
And that’s about it
safe inlet
have you seen what's it called that series during halo 5 release
you can see other species
jade wave
Humanity just got out of a 30 year long war where the opposing faction was a genocidal fanatical religious group bent on destroying humanity and almost succeeded
jade wave
you can see other species
Not all of these represent all aliens
jade wave
I am saying the exact same thing
safe inlet
what are you even arguing then
jade wave
Ok
I’ll say it again
Most humans do not like aliens in the halo universe
That is it
That is literally it
Why is this hard to understand?
jade wave
Listen to any human talk about aliens in any form of halo media
safe inlet
what like how the yonhet traded with humans after the war?
or how the elites sided with the humans near the end of the war
jade wave
Or how ONI is specifically designing plans to destabilize the SOS by giving arms to dissident factions and trying to figure out ways to poison their food supply
The elites sided with humanity out of necessity
safe inlet
the only reason the yonhet traded limity with humans during the war was cause of the covenant say don't do it
safe inlet
Or how ONI is specifically designing plans to destabilize the SOS by giving arms...
oni != humans in general
safe inlet
did most use people want the cia to interfere with the politcs in south america last century?
there were some humans in that faction
generalisation like i said before is a bad thing
jade wave
I do not know what to say man I really don’t
safe inlet
nor do i
jade wave
I can list other examples of humans and aliens hating each other
safe inlet
nor do I i just dont'
jade wave
But I don’t think it would matter
List them
And I will go look at them and maybe you will change my opinion
safe inlet
But I don’t think it would matter
war heals after time
wrong reply
but you get the picture
jade wave
I don’t disagree
But the war has only been over for seven years
At least when infinite is set
jade wave
Poland? France? Russia?
safe inlet
are they all humans?
and did you know most french people said they thought russia helped most in the war right after
but after 70 years they say it was americans
boreal bane
Let's keep the chat more to Halo please - reminder that real life politics aren't allowed in discussions here
safe inlet
Let's keep the chat more to Halo please - reminder that real life politics aren'...
did say something along the lines before just got to lets say engrossed into this
but I will listen
gilded mason
Honestly, we have a fair amount of examples of both dislike and the opposite. Rion's series with aliens and humans working together and having positive feelings for each other, Buck calling the SoS elites his brothers, Venesia's whole deal, some characters in Hunters in the Dark. And we have other media where we mostly tend to interact with characters that were personally harmed by the Covenant.
There's really just not enough info to for sure know what percentage of the human population feels what.
safe inlet
^
jade wave
I disagree
safe inlet
again generalisation is a bad thing
jade wave
I doubt most humans have had similar interactions with aliens
That is one of my points
Most humans have only interacted with aliens through the covenant
safe inlet
time heals
jade wave
Ok but you still are missing what I am saying
safe inlet
and seeing the covenant break up and the elites side with humans
gilded mason
Most current humans probably haven't interacted with the Covenant at all.
safe inlet
would have persuaded a lot of people to sympathise with them
gilded mason
Or at least, a fair amount
safe inlet
Most current humans probably haven't interacted with the Covenant at all.
most combat ready people would not have fought in the war
during infinite
look at the human time line
at this point after the war most people didn't mind the germans
but still disliked the german movement
gilded mason
Though either way, it's for the best that most humans shouldn't hate aliens at this point in time, anyway. 343 isn't going to do massive time jumps at this point, so things have to heal now, otherwise we as the audience will never see it.
safe inlet
i mean the hitler likers
safe inlet
Though either way, it's for the best that most humans shouldn't hate aliens at t...
exactly
the war is over
new allegiances will emerge
factions have / will split
humans are siding with the banished and elites are split between both sides
gilded mason
humans are siding with the banished
Sadly, not anymore. 343 seems to have already retconned that
safe inlet
the aftermath of the human - covenant war isn't 2d
safe inlet
> humans are siding with the banished
Sadly, not anymore. 343 seems to have alre...
wait really
if so i wish 343 could just keep a solid bloody lore
gilded mason
Yeah, Shadows of Reach has it so Atriox hates humans now
gilded mason
And then we have that Infinite transmission where Escherum says "humanity will burn". Not the UNSC.
jade wave
Are there any humans confirmed?
safe inlet
?
jade wave
The only ones I know of are the ferret squad in the Keepers
safe inlet
oh makes more sense since your edit
gilded mason
Previous media talked about humans working with the Banished, and that the Banished would welcome any humans that wishes to join.
safe inlet
Previous media talked about humans working with the Banished, and that the Banis...
this
safe inlet
atriox doesnt like humans
my point in 343 not being consistent
jade wave
Previous media talked about humans working with the Banished, and that the Banis...
what media talked about it
gilded mason
Spartan Field Manual.
jade wave
Oh i see
humble yacht
the field manual represents the perspective of humans, namely the UNSC, and their working information and theories about the Banished. it's not from the perspective of banished themselves
it simply means that the unsc was wrong about Atriox's feelings on humans, or the info was out of date
delicate notch
Where in the timeline was the ark found by the covenant? Was it an early find or was it first after they had found a ring?
jade wave
I would assume after they found the ring
Seeing as the lesser ark was at the boundaries of the Milky Way
delicate notch
And the banished are on the ark, not the lesser one, right?
jade wave
the ark is the lesser ark
the greater ark was destroyed during the forerunner-flood war
i should have just said ark
delicate notch
Ah, thought it was the lesser which was destroyed. My bad.
slim thorn
> humans are siding with the banished
Sadly, not anymore. 343 seems to have alre...
Probably for outlaws and ONI that wants to infiltrate it. Unless the Banished was proved to be ONItight or no ONI can infiltrate it.
delicate notch
Have there ever been a keymind made out of mostly forerunners? Gracemind was mostly human and covenant, wasn't it?
The Primordial and the master builder seemed to have a similar way of thinking/being a sadist, imagine a hive mind with a bunch of builders (I assume there was many)
gilded mason
Where in the timeline was the ark found by the covenant? Was it an early find or...
They first arrived at the Ark on December 11, 2552. They previously found 04 on September 19, and 05 on November 2.
delicate notch
My mane
gilded mason
Have there ever been a keymind made out of mostly forerunners? Gracemind was mos...
Yes. Back during the war that the Forerunners had with the Flood 100,000 years ago.
delicate notch
Yes. Back during the war that the Forerunners had with the Flood 100,000 years a...
Was it killed or is it possibly still active?
gilded mason
The body was destroyed by the rings firing.
But the mind is everlasting.
Graveminds are simply monitors or arms for the mind that exists elsewhere, basically.
delicate notch
Really? I thought they needed the physical form.
humble yacht
they need a physical form to manifest the consciousness in reality
gilded mason
Really? I thought they needed the physical form.
He does, if he wants to interact with the physical world
delicate notch
But wouldn't that make all kind of minds equal? If they can plug into the "neural network" (or what it's called) as fast as they are formed.
gilded mason
There's only a single Gravemind
humble yacht
yea
gilded mason
He just has multiple bodies he can control
humble yacht
if two graveminds exist at once, it's not two individual minds
undone kestrel
does the precursor still exist?
gilded mason
Yes
undone kestrel
ooo where?
humble yacht
not that we know of
gilded mason
PoI stuff for anyone that doesn't wanna look:
||Precursor "eggs" are being taken care of by a Forerunner in a far away place.||
humble yacht
gross
jade wave
Isnt keeper of tools mission to bring them to another galaxy for reseeding
gilded mason
I forget the specifics.
delicate notch
So when they collect biomass it's not to make that particular body more powerful, but to collect the intelligence of these beings into the consciousness? Ie. The knowledge the mind from the forerunner war had is still there in the Halo 3 gravemind?
gilded mason
The knowledge the mind from the forerunner war had is still there in the Halo 3 gravemind?
Yup
undone kestrel
ooooo pog
jade wave
how old do spartans get before they are considered "old"
Not known. No Spartan II has lived beyond like 40 or 50
undone kestrel
i see
jade wave
I doubt 343 will ever address that question either tho
delicate notch
Always thought that the different minds was independent but connected.
slim thorn
Not known. No Spartan II has lived beyond like 40 or 50
Blue Team does.
Their members are around 40 now
jade wave
I am saying beyond those ages
slim thorn
Linda will be 50 years once reaches 2561
jade wave
Yes
Let me rephrase it
Most Spartans die before reaching ages that would be considered old
slim thorn
The only youngsters we have for S-II is Red Team
undone kestrel
didn't del rio say something about masterchief being old?
jade wave
He called him an aging Spartan
undone kestrel
ooo i see
delicate notch
Haven't they already declared the age when Mc dies?
humble yacht
any and all reports of chief's death have been fabricated
delicate notch
Okedokey
flat iron
Not known. No Spartan II has lived beyond like 40 or 50
Avery Johnson holds the current record at 60 years old
slim thorn
Bruh, he's at between 70 to 75
undone kestrel
johnson is a spartan?
humble yacht
not really
project orion subject were retroactively referred to as Spartan Is but they are not nearly as augmented as later spartan generations
undone kestrel
i see
stable flower
didn't del rio say something about masterchief being old?
He's basically calling SPARTAN-IIs obsolete
chilly shuttle
I mean, SPARTAN-IVs are a thing.
Makes me wonder, if the games continue past Infinite, we'll eventually see SPARTAN-Vs.
chilly shuttle
Improvements in technology, especially as Forerunner tech is further understood.
craggy sierra
New spartan programs only come about when there's a large leap in the technology. For narrative purposes theu've gotten it as good as it needs to get.
So any new spartan recruits from hereon are just gonna be under the 4 program I imagine
chilly shuttle
I think it's less "leaps of technology" and more "philosophies".
craggy sierra
Again' nothing to really change there narratively
Cause they've gotten to the point of consenting adults only.
chilly shuttle
S-II: Immoral program to create supersoldiers based on the original PROJECT: ORION, using kids.
S-III: "Disposable", mass-produced SPARTANS, still using kids.
S-IV: More moral program using adult volunteers (Kind of taking it back to their roots, really.)
craggy sierra
I don't think the logical reasoning was to take it back to its roots
As much as it just was to stop using kids
chilly shuttle
Well, it was an unintentional side effect.
Since ORION was adult volunteers as well
Also, I have to ask.
humble yacht
the biggest reason was because Musa and Jun knew that more spartans would be needed if humanity were to continue surviing in the future
but obviously the use of kids was neither sustainable nor right
chilly shuttle
Was that scene at the start of Halo 4's campaign, with the interrogator chewing out Halsey like she was bubblegum over her actions with the S-II program, part of the original campaign, or added in for MCC, like the "H5" opener was for the H2:A campaign?
craggy sierra
That was always there
chilly shuttle
Alright. I just didn't remember it, then.
craggy sierra
It's kinda meant to set up chief's personal problems
chilly shuttle
Speaking of, I should play Halo 5 and Wars 2 at some point before Infinite drops...
And yeah, I could just binge-watch Hidden Xperia to get caught up, but I'm one of those "I need to experience it myself" types...
unique rune
Probably the better approach to it
chilly shuttle
Indeed.
I'm just not looking forward to Wars 2, since I'm not the best when it comes to RTS games.
Also, is it just me, or are the Lekgolo pretty much the Covenant's "End-all" solution when it comes to controlling tech?
gilded mason
What do you mean?
chilly shuttle
They control the Skitterers, were used to explore the inner workings of the Forerunner Dreadnaught, control Scarabs, etc.
stable flower
I think they're used because combat AI were forbidden
terse lava
Would say the Lekgolo did end up being a good substitute for more direct AI creations. We know the ancient Covenant had better AI, but contact with Logic Plague remnants forced them to drop that technology.
versed helm
I thought the reason as to why the Covenant stopped using AI was because they probably heard stories of what Mendicant Bias did to their "gods"
Also, were there any other space-faring civilizations that shared the Milky Way alongside the Covenant and Humanity, like those that existed in the same time frame as them
timid skiff
do you guys think Halo Infinite will give us some UNSC energy-based weapons (for once, and aside from the Spartan Laser)
I like the way we fight through bullet means but idk, i feel like we need to have at least one laser blaster for example
versed helm
Well you got that one Scorpion tank variant that can fire lasers
rain imp
Well you got that one Scorpion tank variant that can fire lasers
The M145D Rhino. From Halo Wars. Loved that tank. 🙂
tepid vault
We have a lot of covenant weapons, maybe Hannibal would be generous enough to give us handheld variants of some of their weapons
nimble heart
Spartan 1337 should be canon
unique rune
Probably Carter’s arm, considering he’s the only one of Noble wearing those colors.
dim holly
yeah definitely him
chilly shuttle
Either Carter or a custom Noble 6.
versed helm
I don't know, Carter has a line on his arm and it doesn't seem to match, this Spartan's seems more worn
chilly shuttle
And there's a line on this arm, too.
unique rune
The blue stripe on Carter’s wrist is still there in the cutscene.
And those hue differences are probably because of the lighting.
versed helm
also if we see the arm of the spartan in the photo it seems thicker than that of carter
unique rune
It’s not B312 because he’s sitting in the ‘Hog down there with Kat.
unique rune
...How can you tell it’s thicker from that one image?
unique rune
That... really doesn’t tell me anything.
The blue wrist stripe alone should be enough to say it’s without a doubt Carter-A259.
rain imp
It's Carter. Pretty obvious as they were all there during the operation.
Especially as he talks to Kat after the crash, so it makes sense if he's coordinating units not to be in the ground assault directly.
Also you end up on the same Falcon Carter is on in the end cutscene of the level.
versed helm
We are supposed to assume that is Carter overseeing the attack, lol.
rain imp
He's overseeing his assets, yes. Coordinating a spartan fireteam that is under request from multiple sources I imagine is fairly hectic in battle. 🙂
versed helm
You are probably correct.
undone plume
there's one thing I've always wondered in between Halo 3 and 4
rain imp
"How did the cryopod chief was in, move?" 🙂
undone plume
lol that how did the pole switch sides and did anyone wake up 3 and 4
undone plume
In the last cutscene, she's on his right but when chief wakes up shes on the left how did it move?
rain imp
Ah. Same question area as the one I mentioned, hehe. Artistic licence would be the answer. 😉
undone plume
lol i was like uhhhhhhh
carmine sleet
Aye, plus, the Dawn in Halo 4 is inaccurate to how it should look because they wanted to make a bigger play space for the first mission
chilly shuttle
That, or Cortana was busy in the four years or so.
carmine sleet
She was busy, but I doubt she was somehow able to make the Dawn larger than it was
steep ether
she did, however update chiefs armor
stable flower
They The Maw'd the Dawn in Halo 4 for gameplay reasons
versed helm
"its like linguine, buts it the kind that can kind of jump into your mouth and get into your stomach and spread out from your limbs and turn you into a nasty nasty thing!" - random grunt i heard while playing halo 3 one time
flood is spoopy
main rivet
What's dumb about changing the look of it for gameplay reasons is no one was all that bothered by the fact that The Maw didn't fit in Pillar of Autumn.
If they wanted that open area for the exterior part of the mission, they could have done it and just messed with the scale, and few people would have complained.
Certainly far fewer than did about changing the look of it randomly.
The Chief's armor is a whole 'nother thing, but especially with the final cutscene I really wish they'd just left him with his bashed-to-hell MkVI and given him new armor in Halo 5.
versed helm
I wonder, is it possible to find any remains of Marontik?
Also, what actually happened to the United States in the Halo universe, like what could've caused it to fall apart?
gilded mason
stuff
humble yacht
What makes you think it fell apart?
jade wave
Also, what actually happened to the United States in the Halo universe, like wha...
A civil war started after the governments of the United States, Canada and Mexico decided to merge together into a single country
The civil war ended with the Formation of the United Republic of North America?
URNA or something like that
undone kestrel
oooooo pog
versed helm
Did the Covenant ever produce cryo-chambers as well?
gilded mason
Maybe, but I don't remember any ever being mentioned
versed helm
They certainly do not require them when considering the speed of Slipspace travel.
dusty prawn
The Sangheili might have long ago, maybe, but since the covenant was founded their ships were probably fast enough to negate the need for it
terse lava
Yeah, and willing to bet it would be stasis-based rather then cryo
versed helm
Is there a difference between the two techniques?
I thought those were interchangeable terms.
humble yacht
Not always
Dead space stasis is not based on temperature. More like a temporal stasis
versed helm
Ah, I see.
slim thorn
I think the Covenant does, since San'Shyuum possess a Statis technology known as Timelock.
But most likely exclusive to San'Shyuun.
humble yacht
they got that from the forerunners
warped gust
Are any Spartans Swordsmen trained by Sangheili?
gilded mason
No actual "swordsmen", but apparently Thorne might have been getting some training from them...maybe?
versed helm
Anyone know what series had the son of an architect, a human and something else find the big prothean that becomes the gravemind underground?
versed helm
@gilded mason YOU'RE THE BEST! Was that the end of Cryptum?
gilded mason
No idea
versed helm
Fair enough.
@gilded mason Do you who the Spartan 2 was that died in Ghosts of Onyx so that Kelly, Linda, Fred and the rest could get away?
gilded mason
Kurt
undone kestrel
guys , who was the first spartan?
jade wave
John halo
jade wave
I don’t know how I feel about that emoji
undone kestrel
lol
gilded mason
I imagine 001 was simply not taken
jade wave
No mention of it
proven parcel
Who is actually writing Halo Infinite?
fair hazel
Halo infinite does not have a single writer
gilded mason
Yup, it has no writers.
fair hazel
haha
delicate notch
Will it be based on a novel or will a novel be based on the game, you think?
versed helm
It will be based on a pamphlet.
thorny elk
why are we making fun of Infinite?
gilded mason
We're not
craggy sierra
No Halo game’s been based off a novel and only one novel’s ever been based off a game
versed helm
Lowering expectations, if you expect it to be bad and it's good then it's a pleasant surprise, if it's bad then it's not a letdown.
thorny elk
i guess
craggy sierra
I’m a wait for reviews kinda guy
thorny elk
i am too but the multiplayer is free so i’ll play that
at least for a bit
i hope no ground pound or anything tho
versed helm
I'll be content so long as it keeps the promise of having local co-op.
chilly shuttle
I wouldn't mind the ability to make your own campaign-style levels.
pulsar pivot
What is in the middle of the ark?
gilded mason
A ball of resources
gilded mason
The latter
chilly shuttle
A literal planet being stripmined for resources.
vernal notch
Does it move planet to planet?
gilded mason
Does it move planet to planet?
It takes the planets themselves to its location, it doesn't stay at the planets' original locations.
unique rune
The UNSC established some research facilities but otherwise no
versed helm
I always wondered what that skull looking thing was.
unique rune
Skull-looking thing?
versed helm
The planet being strip mined, looked like a skull while glimpsing at it while frantically speeding towards the frigate.
unique rune
Ah
lucid depot
Did the unsc actually purge all the flood that landed on earth, or did they manage to contain some to study for a time
Before destroying the whole area
versed helm
The covenant lead by the shipmaster glassed that entire city.
pulsar pivot
A really big burn go Brrr
stable flower
MC was ordered to overload the crashed ship's engine cores and destroy the city. That objective gets completely forgotten about midway through Floodgate.
versed helm
I forgot it immediately after hearing it.
lunar stirrup
Wtf is that arm thing at the beginning of long night of solace when they go into the cave
carmine sleet
That was the leg of a Scarab
slim thorn
The covenant lead by the shipmaster glassed that entire city.
I think if it was on SCP rate, the Flood will be listed as Apollyon class containment or end of humanity. So yeah, Rtas did a good job to make sure no flood was left alive on Earth.
Not to mention ONI probably decides not to experiment it further after what happened to Mona Lisa. Considering the flood was extremely dangerous.
versed helm
Not just the Mona Lisa. I'm pretty sure they got to know from Johnson and Chief (and Chips) what went down on the Ring
hidden briar
Had this thought while looking through a lore video from Halo Canon
mostly about the Cole Protocol and the Covanent's access to a Luminary
Especially since most to all UNSC planets had Forerunner artefacts (Like Harvest, Reach and Earth itself)
I understand the intentions... its just with the Luminaries... it wouldve been hard to stop the advance (until Truth lust for power got the best of him and lead to the great Schism)
slim thorn
Not just the Mona Lisa. I'm pretty sure they got to know from Johnson and Chief ...
I'm pretty sure ONI got a record about Captain Keyes being assimilated, right? Unless either Halsey or Cortana omits it.