lore-and-universe

[gentle ridge]

Well they should

If they don’t care about their continuity they don’t have one ya kno

[terse lava]

Originally, the reason for the ones in HW having shields was pure game play

[gentle ridge]

They presumably still have them in universe tho

[terse lava]

Now a days sure, but when it was first released, no

[gentle ridge]

What do you mean exactly

I’m saying that, the game at least pretends like they had shields when they had them.

Aka before the books

[terse lava]

When Halo Wars first came out, the Spartans featured in the game did not canonical have shields. It purely a gimmick for gameplay

[gentle ridge]

Based on what though?

[terse lava]

If I recall, the developers mentioned it

[gilded mason]

Yeah

[gentle ridge]

Interesting

I think that’s a mistake to do

The arbiter had no shields though right?

[gilded mason]

He did have shields

[gentle ridge]

Gameplay wise

[gilded mason]

No idea

[terse lava]

Gameplay, no

[gentle ridge]

Looking at his fight with forge

It doesn’t look like he has shields at all

And even his elites

It looks like none of them are shielded

[terse lava]

His last upgrade gives him perma camo. Giving shields on top of that would have made him to strong

[gilded mason]

Yeah. For some reason, visual media tends to just...pretent Elite shields don't actually exist

[gentle ridge]

You could give him comparatively weak shields

Forge just stabs him in the neck

[terse lava]

To be fair, those were stealth Sangheili

That rank usually has very weak, to no shields at all

[gentle ridge]

Well they always had shields in the other games

[gilded mason]

Not Stealth elites

[terse lava]

Not stealth

[gentle ridge]

Is stealth a different class to the invisible elites we see in other games

Because the elites in 2 have shields

[stable flower]

That one Halo Wars cutscene has a bunch of Minor Elites with staves being dropped like flies by three Spartans

[gentle ridge]

I can’t recall if invisible ones existed in 1 but I feel they did

[terse lava]

Yes, the cyan colored ones in CE, and the grey and brown ones in 2

They aren't minors

They are stealth

[gentle ridge]

I can’t recall any elites in the trilogy that weren’t shielded

[gilded mason]

CE Stealth were not

[stable flower]

The Stealth Elites in CE were unshielded

[terse lava]

CE stealth Sangheili have no shields

[solid delta]

Halo wars 2 has some unsheiled elites

[gentle ridge]

Which. Respect to our boy forge and all, but the fact he throws down with the arbiter who is big for even an elite is a bruh moment

Especially after he drops several tons of metal on him

And doesn’t kill him

[terse lava]

He is lucky Ripa was to prideful, and didn't take the fight seriously

[solid delta]

He’s not a Spartan he should have been paste

[gilded mason]

Worked because Ripa was an arrogant guy that liked to showboat

[stable flower]

Forge trolled Ripa and killed him because of it

[gentle ridge]

Yeah. But it doesn’t matter how arrogant he is. I could never tackle him

He’s like 8ft tall

[solid delta]

He’s as big as a brute

[gilded mason]

Oh yeah, tackling him to the ground was too much, yeah

[gentle ridge]

He could flex and break my neck

[stable flower]

I always wondered why Heretic Elites had purple shielding

[gilded mason]

Probably just a gameplay thing

[gentle ridge]

I just remember when chief struggled to fight that elite in first strike I think

[terse lava]

Just part of their uniform i guess

Yea the spec ops

He was losing too

[gentle ridge]

Yeah

[terse lava]

But was tired from the halo battle

Unlike the commando

[stable flower]

I know they're a rebel faction but I wish they had more ranks

[gentle ridge]

It’s true. But the chief could beat any of us with one arm

[solid delta]

He can flip cars

[terse lava]

An Unggoy could best the snotnout of us

[gentle ridge]

Elephants

[terse lava]

Let's be honest here

[gentle ridge]

What makes you say that?

I know they’re actually huge

Compared to what we may think

[gilded mason]

Grunts are able to rip the limbs off of spartans

[gentle ridge]

When did that happen lol

[terse lava]

They are large yes, and have a hard outer spiky shell, and are capable of holding a fuel rod cannon with just one arm

[gilded mason]

Thorne talks about it in the Spartan Field Manual

[gentle ridge]

Haven’t read that

Or heard of it

That’s kinda crazy if it’s true

Because didn’t kelly fail to pop a iii’s arm out it’s socket

Or maybe she did that instead of breaking it

[terse lava]

Not terribly shocking, there's a famous Unggoy, stolt, who was able to withstand Sangheili punches, and beat them up once the larger alien tires out

[gentle ridge]

It’s kinda wild

[terse lava]

He even led his own squad of Sangheili

[gentle ridge]

o7 for forge

The continuity stuff may be lame. But he was a real one

[terse lava]

Yeah, he was alright

[gentle ridge]

I have been out of the loop

Why is anders Norwegian now

[terse lava]

Hm? She's not

With HW2, they just based the faces more on the VA this time

[gentle ridge]

She looks blonde

[stable flower]

She was hotter in HW1

[gentle ridge]

Dunno bro

[terse lava]

Eh, to his their own

I am with ATP

[gentle ridge]

I haven’t really seen many pictures of the new her

[fair hazel]

let's not get weird please

Anders is not "norwegian"

[gentle ridge]

It was a joke bro chill

[fair hazel]

Didn't really seem so.

[gentle ridge]

She looks like she’s from a Nordic country in some of these images

[fair hazel]

So firs you say something, then claim it's a joke, then go back to the first thing you're saying...

[gentle ridge]

You are probably right

[gentle ridge]

Yes. It is a joke. I know she is not from Norway.

I have to explain it to you because you misinterpreted it

[fair hazel]

That's not what a joke is.

Her actor is half-irish half-chinese.

[gentle ridge]

I don’t think you can decide what isn’t a joke

[stable flower]

Weird?

[gentle ridge]

But anders clearly isn’t half Irish

So it struck me as a shock

[humble yacht]

by weird, ericky meant don't be creepy

[gentle ridge]

When I saw her I was like is this her daughter or something

I don’t think he’s being weird tbh

[humble yacht]

we try to stray away from objectifying female game characters here

[gentle ridge]

Teek

I would love to hear what bungie devs were thinking when they designed cortana then

[fair hazel]

If you're asked not to do something, don't keep pushing that direction.

And this is her real life actor that plays her in halo wars 2. They used real actors for mocap so they had to base their characters appearance on them.

[gentle ridge]

I understand

But her hair almost looks blonde in these images

I cannot post them

[humble yacht]

that's intentional

[terse lava]

Just a light brown is all

[gentle ridge]

Dyed?

Her hair colour is totally different

[fair hazel]

It's called lighting too

Her hair is dark brown

[terse lava]

Not at all, some of her HW images show the lighter color too. Its all about where the lighting is

[gentle ridge]

Doesn’t look like just lighting to me

But I’m not gonna sit through the cutscenes atm

[fair hazel]

The halo wars official guide even states her hair is dark brown

Besides hair colour is to me one of the least jarring appearance changes

[gentle ridge]

That’s fine but it doesn’t seem to add up. Is this the same actress from one?

Wait a second. Why are you able to post images but no one else can?

[terse lava]

They are.mods

[gentle ridge]

Ok. But what is the reasoning

[fair hazel]

No, and they weren't based on their actors in halo wars 1.

[gentle ridge]

I know they aren’t. I’m just curious

[humble yacht]

Regular users aren’t trustworthy

That’s why they don’t have image perms

[gentle ridge]

Interesting

[terse lava]

Thanks Chim. Love ya too

[gentle ridge]

What has happened in the past that made this a thing?

[humble yacht]

Image abuse

[terse lava]

Better modeling

[stable flower]

I figured

[gentle ridge]

Tbf this is probably the biggest discord I’ve been in

What kind of abuse

[terse lava]

Ah, thought he referred to the HW stuff

[humble yacht]

Don’t worry about it

[gentle ridge]

Teek

Ok

[pulsar pivot]

The biggest and most active I've seen is the terraria

Discord

But

Anyway

I know Cortana got infected with logic plauge but what does it cause her to do exactly

[gilded mason]

She is not infected with the logic plague

[humble yacht]

Logic plague affects different people differently but the commonality is that the affected person either intentionally or unintentionally helps the flood

The first thing cortana did when Chief rescued her is fire a halo. She wasn’t under the influence of the plague

If she were plagued then she could have used the domain to find a flood containment zone and free them without anyone knowing.

[pulsar pivot]

Oh I've heard multiple people say she was but nvm

[humble yacht]

Yeah it’s a popular theory with flood fans but it’s not confirmed and doesn’t really hold much weight when critically analyzed

[pulsar pivot]

Fair point I always doubted it because I never saw anything she really did to say she had it

[latent mason]

i saw a marine with a skull on his helmet on the h3 believe trailer but cant find anything about it

is he a unique character or did it belong to a certain company or something

[pulsar pivot]

Its marketing

Marketing tends to be not cannon

EXEPT the remember reach one

That one was cannon

I think

[latent mason]

i think the diorama is canon

atleast thats what halopedia says but idk

[versed helm]

So what race attacked Crecka in the System of Miasmic Giants?
I'm listening to Broken Circle again and I just got to that part

[gilded mason]

We do not know.

[versed helm]

Remind me, what year did the Covenant first made contact with the Lekgolo?

[gilded mason]

789 BC

[versed helm]

I thought it was 784 B.C

[gilded mason]

That was when it was proposed they join the Covenant

[versed helm]

Oh

[pulsar pivot]

B.C.

Oh crap

[versed helm]

I wonder what the Created might do with the Lekgolo

Maybe mine Te and its moons for resources

Destroy the Lekgolo colonies that consume Forerunner materials

Thoughts?

[stable flower]

That reminds me. What planet is Snowbound set on?

[unique rune]

It’s on an alien world discovered and controlled by the Covenant. It’s location is secret, but it is in this spiral arm of the Galaxy. Close to human occupied space.
No more identifying info than that, it would appear.

[stable flower]

😔

[pulsar pivot]

Isnt snowbound that one map where it got those torrents that will blast you to dust if you go out of bounds

[jagged stirrup]

yes the turrets will quite literally kill u

2 death.

[versed helm]

The bubble shields cannot protect you as well.

[jagged stirrup]

fr?

[versed helm]

Yes, they did protect you in the beta build for the game, though.

[jagged stirrup]

i never knew that

[versed helm]

I have plenty of useless knowledge to spare.

[sturdy meteor]

xd

[versed helm]

Show us some useless knowledge

All of the casings for the shotgun shells in Halo CE and 2 have hippo engravings on them.

[carmine sleet]

That the Warthog looks kinda like a Puma

[versed helm]

Someone used a moped to record the sound effects for the Mongoose in Halo 3. He combined them with the sounds of a car.

I think one of my favourite pieces of trivia is the explanation for how Dutch earned his nickname.

[gentle ridge]

Heart of the Midlothian is named after a Scottish football team

[terse lava]

Neat

[versed helm]

How does an infection form explode?

[terse lava]

The gases within its body

[unique rune]

like a balloon

just don’t use them for children’s birthday parties
or any parties for that matter

[carmine sleet]

Also don't inhale helium from balloons either. It's a nasty way to go

[versed helm]

There are worse fates.

[steep ether]

"how did he die? oh, an animal balloon."

[pulsar pivot]

DONT INHALE THE GASES FROM A INFECTION FORM

It dont end well

[steep ether]

arby anxiously sitting in the corner after going through multiple flood hives with no respirator

[versed helm]

Their respirators do look uncomfortable to wear.

[brittle gyro]

Never played hw2, do the banished share ideologies with the original covenant at all? Why are the on the arc and the ring if not for religious reasons?

[gilded mason]

Forerunners have good tech, you know.

[brittle gyro]

So they just want upgrades, weapons?

[gilded mason]

Yes

[brittle gyro]

And won't they run into the issue that only humans can access this technology

[gilded mason]

Anyone can if you tinker long enough

[terse lava]

Yep, the only thing they share with the old covenant is ranks to an extent. Sangheili and Jiralhanae are above the lesser races

[gilded mason]

Poor unggoy

[brittle gyro]

Jiralhanae are brutes?

[gilded mason]

Yes.

[terse lava]

Mhm

[brittle gyro]

Do they explain how the banished, which is lead by a brute managed to convince the elites to join?

The storm covenant seemed to be elites only

[gilded mason]

Nah

Jul's Covenant also had brutes, just...not seen in the games

[brittle gyro]

Hmm

I have to say I find that surprising after the schism

[terse lava]

Not everyone joined one side or the other

[gilded mason]

I guess there was more "live and let live" sentiments going around than previously thought

[brittle gyro]

Halo 2 implied quite heavily that there was something of a purge of the elites

[terse lava]

Yeah, plus Ateiox and his Banished were around for a few years even before the schism

[gilded mason]

(Unless you're human, in which case "blarg, me evil aliem time 2 die human")

[terse lava]

@gilded mason I find your lack of wort disturbing

[gilded mason]

"wort, me evil aliem time 2 die human"

[brittle gyro]

Ya why do the banished not want humanity to be an ally, or to let them join their ranks etc

[terse lava]

@gilded mason 👍

[dusty prawn]

Wort frustrated sangheili noises

[gilded mason]

Because 343 wants them to be more Covenant-lite. For some reason

[brittle gyro]

The covenant didn't because the humans uprooted their beliefs in the forerunners being God's, but the banished Harbour no such issue afaik

[terse lava]

It's implied they did, but its now implied Atriox got rocked of with what happened at the ark

[gilded mason]

Which is...really dumb and weird

[dusty prawn]

Atriox is butthurt about the Ark event so he decided he doesn’t like humans suddenly

[brittle gyro]

Wait so what happened to atriox

[dusty prawn]

Thank god for Castor

[brittle gyro]

Why is there a new banished leadet

[terse lava]

The events of Halo Wars 2 tell that

[dusty prawn]

Erustrum or whatever? He was left in charge of galactic banished forces while atriox was playing halo wars 2

[gilded mason]

"Ah, Elites that were going around killing my pack and slaughtering my crew? Welcome aboard, personally! A single UNSC ship fought me? Me hate all humans now! >=("

[brittle gyro]

So the new guy is the Supreme leader and atriox was like a general?

[gilded mason]

No, Echerum is Atriox's, like, second in command, or something

[dusty prawn]

He was his “keep the lights on while I’m gone” guy

[brittle gyro]

Maybe this is a spoiler, but does ||atriox die in hw2?||

[dusty prawn]

Check out Shadows of Reach too

[gilded mason]

||No||

[dusty prawn]

Has lots of details you are asking for in there

[brittle gyro]

👀

[terse lava]

...should I just say it Ostral?

[brittle gyro]

Wait so does hw2 take place after the created uprising

[dusty prawn]

Bakar is awesome?

Yeah he is

Want to give him a nice adventure book for his hatch day

[gilded mason]

Indeed. Keepers of the One Freedom are what the Banished tried to be. And funnily enough, were written about before the Banished came to be. So the Banished are really just a redundant, useless faction that serve no purpose. =)

[dusty prawn]

Yep

[gilded mason]

Yes.

[terse lava]

@brittle gyro slightly before, by like, few months but later overlaps but no one at the ark is aware of galactic business

Also yes, Atriox lives through halo wars 2

[gilded mason]

Hm? SoF gets to the Ark several months after H5's events

[brittle gyro]

Guess irdk what's going on in the halo universe at the time of infinite

[terse lava]

I was counting the carrier arriving

[gilded mason]

Nobody knows

[gilded mason]

Ah. I was just counting "game start"

[terse lava]

Carrier arrives at the ark...6 months before the game events if I recall

[brittle gyro]

So do we dont know if prometheans will still be enemy units in the game either do we

I'd like to see what they look like in the updated art style

[gilded mason]

Though still one month after the Created take control

[gilded mason]

They probably might in, like, the later part of the game or something

[brittle gyro]

The flood is like basically confirmed too aren't they? Could lead to some crazy ai battles if they have 4 factions

[gilded mason]

Nah, they aren't confirmed

[brittle gyro]

That video with the pug making sound effects wasn't a confirmation?

[dusty prawn]

Could be grunts

[gilded mason]

Nope, they use that sound for grunts

[brittle gyro]

👀

Never heard a grunt make those sounds

[gilded mason]

And probably fauna on the ring

[brittle gyro]

Good point

No full on conclusions but I guess I can still hope

[dusty prawn]

It’s grunty snorting noises, not too different.

The only thing confirmed is that they explicitly never deny the flood

Even in the recent books it’s a “mehbe, who knows”

[brittle gyro]

Do the rings each contain like info on different species

Why did instalation 04 (I think?) Have flood in the first place

[terse lava]

Likely

[gilded mason]

To study them to find a cure

[terse lava]

Yeah

[brittle gyro]

But weren't the rings... weapons of mass destruction, not research labs?

[terse lava]

Each halo likely had flood samples for study

[gilded mason]

They're both

[terse lava]

Both

Dang it Ostral

[gilded mason]

=)

[brittle gyro]

So they stored a species to research them, then killed themselves

Did they expect guilty spark to figure it out?

[terse lava]

The Forerunners kept samples of all life they could on the rings and the arms before lighting the array

[gilded mason]

They hoped any monitor for any ring might eventually be able to.

[half ravine]

4? Wouldn’t it only be 3?

[dusty prawn]

Specifically the Librarian hope later people (like humans) would

[brittle gyro]

Humans flood proms banished

[gilded mason]

UNSC/Banished/Promethean/Flood

[dusty prawn]

Explicitly

[half ravine]

Ah ok. I thought he was only referring to the ones we fight. Fair enough.

[brittle gyro]

Love having my marines do the fighting for me

[dusty prawn]

Because the flood are a extragalactic threat as well, at the time, kinda

[gilded mason]

Yeh

[brittle gyro]

Why didn't the forerunners do what the didact wanted? The prometheans could have solved the flood problem pretty easily couldn't they

[stable flower]

They were only deployed towards the end of the war

[gilded mason]

After a certain point, the infection spread way too much for anything except the Halos to really work

[dusty prawn]

No he didn’t have the numbers, and tried to compose humans, it still wasn’t enough

[terse lava]

Numbers aside, it was too late anyway with precursor artifacts activating

[gilded mason]

And yeah, thanks to Forerunner politics and the Master Builder, the Didact's efforts were not given the support needed

[brittle gyro]

What would happen if the composer were used on the flood

[dusty prawn]

The flood were literally bending space and time to their will, just about everything was too late towards the end

[gilded mason]

They would now have Flood essence composed

[brittle gyro]

Wouldn't they turn into soldiers like humans do

[gilded mason]

No, the Flood infection spreads to the "soul" so it'd just be more Flood-aligned stuff

[brittle gyro]

The prometheans don't seem to have free will

Like if you can Bend a human to your will with the composer I'd find it surprising a parasite wouldn't be just as if not easier

[gilded mason]

Flood's wacky

[dusty prawn]

In a deeper sense they aren’t actually a parasite

[brittle gyro]

Is there any material in which they actually attempted to use the composer on flood

[dusty prawn]

@brittle gyro go down and read the description for this map. It’s short https://www.halopedia.org/Tyrant

No I don’t think they tried. Honestly it doesn’t seem effective anyway against very large forces

[terse lava]

They did try, actually

[dusty prawn]

When was that

A terminal in halo 4?

Don’t remember it in silentium

[terse lava]

In the forerunner saga, its mentioned they had attempted to compose flood victims, and put the mind of the person into a fresh body. It worked...but the flood taint also survived the transfer and corrupted the new body

[dusty prawn]

Oh

I meant militarily

[brittle gyro]

Ya like turning them into robotic soldiers

[dusty prawn]

That was more like a medical procedure

[terse lava]

You are just giving the flood more minions then, just beings made of metal rather then flesh

[brittle gyro]

But how are they controlled by the flood at that point

The composer eliminates the original beings will entirely

[terse lava]

Because the flood infection can survive being composed

[brittle gyro]

But once composed what is it infecting

[terse lava]

The machine itself, just like the sentinels and monitors sent to clean out flood ships who fell to the logic plague

[brittle gyro]

Was the guilty spark in h3 the same as hce, and are they the same as the one caught by the grave mind in h2?

[gilded mason]

Guilty Spark is the same character in all three games

[brittle gyro]

Including the corrupted one?

[gilded mason]

Penitent Tangent, the monitor of Delta Halo, was caught by the Gravemind.

They are different people

[terse lava]

Yeah, different monitor

[brittle gyro]

Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't they have the same VA?

[unique rune]

Nah, different VAs

[gilded mason]

He says his full name right when you meet him, so...

[brittle gyro]

Really I don't remember that strange

[gilded mason]

https://youtu.be/CrXhzDqgWww?t=76

[brittle gyro]

Really did have a similar enough voice that I just assumed it was the same monitor wow

[gilded mason]

Even though you see Spark again later in the same game and he's blue?

[brittle gyro]

Well I actually thought that they were all the same like mind in different bodies

Until h5 exuberant witness

[gilded mason]

Oh you.

[brittle gyro]

Loool

[stable flower]

It would have been funny if there was a Covenant ship named the Redeemer

[versed helm]

The majority of their names are relatively ironic.

[terse lava]

Covenant ships? How so?

[half ravine]

I think it’s a reach to say most are ironic. Maybe some.

[unique rune]

They seem ironic if you're looking at them in the sense that the Covenant are the antagonists of the franchise, but generally they're appropriate for what the Covenant is.

[versed helm]

In terms of context, I find their names to be ironic.

[versed helm]

Ironic but sound awesome

I mean that name shadow of intent

[terse lava]

All of the Covenant ship names are great

[versed helm]

I know

I love them all

UNSC names too

Pillar of Autumn, forward into Dawn, amber in clad

[crude grotto]

yeah halo's ship names are so great

[pulsar pivot]

Indeed

They got bored of the simple one

[pulsar pivot]

Fleet of Particular justice

[versed helm]

Love that name

Here's a ship name I came up with remembrance of sorrow

And another eternity of solace

[pulsar pivot]

God I cant think of one

Oh oh here's one "Feral Intentions"

[versed helm]

Doesn't sound very poetic

[pulsar pivot]

Mmm

"Jolly Rodger"

[terse lava]

"Journey's Devotional Psalm"

[pulsar pivot]

Well dang

[steep ether]

"great construing of the honored"

its hard

[pulsar pivot]

It is difficult

[steep ether]

"construing intentions by the devotional psalm of sorrowing solace"

collabs be like:

[terse lava]

"Glorious Salvation of Ascension, Holy Chalice of Deliverance, Righteous Might of of the Faithful," not as hard as one thinks

[pulsar pivot]

Jesus these are tounge twisters soon

[versed helm]

They all sound so ironic to me.

[versed helm]

Here's another name salvation of irony

[main hill]

im back

[versed helm]

Welcome back

[main hill]

thnx

[versed helm]

Welcome back to the Domain.

[cobalt thunder]

Do I get a welcoming party too??🥸

Anyways do u know how to change game modes in forge?

[slender lichen]

Hi, you'll probably get better advice in #471727528847867904, cheers

[wanton verge]

if a energy sword was damaged would it be possible for it to function somewhat like a grenade?

[humble yacht]

Probably not

[wanton verge]

:((

[versed helm]

How many Spartan IIs were present on Reach during its collapse?

[west rune]

I think 25?

But those are the ones that survived

3 spartan's weren't present at reach (If I remember correctly gray team)

[vagrant spindle]

does halo 5 offline singleplayer campaign has a good story?

[last hill]

No

(Obviously there are people who enjoy it, like anything, but the overwhelming player/critical consensus is that Halo 5 is bad)

[half ravine]

I think it’s good, some parts are very bad, but overall I like it.

[uncut sparrow]

The story is bad, the gameplay is good In my opinion

[steep ether]

the story is decent, just not presented well, gameplay is good, and not to come off rude, but you could have just said Halo 5 campaign

[versed helm]

Thanks.

[spiral jewel]

Jerome Alice and Douglas plus Grey teams iirc weren't present for Reach

[steep ether]

red team was on reach

just not those three

if anyone was confused

[pulsar pivot]

Stupid me was about to say master chief wasnt there

[steep ether]

don't worry

[tacit flax]

Wasnt linda and her team on reach? And then went into that dyson sphere thing before reach was glassed? Or was that a different planet?

[carmine sleet]

Reach is definitely not a Dyson Sphere

[versed helm]

Brrrr

[pulsar pivot]

Dyson Sphere go around suns to collect energy

[versed helm]

Yees

[pulsar pivot]

Let's say noble team didnt destroy the super carrier would there have been a better chance of them holding out until the Unsc Fleets got there

[terse lava]

No

[humble yacht]

that second covie fleet was already en route

it's not like they only showed up because the LNOS was murked

[terse lava]

Yeah, if LNOS hadn't been nuked, I assume the 2nd fleet.may have attempted to detain it

[pulsar pivot]

Oh

So they noticed that they were going to invade a planet

[humble yacht]

it wasn't nuked 😉

i imagine the LNOS let the rest of the Covenant know that humans were on Reach after they discovered their presence

[pulsar pivot]

What kind of bomb was it then

[humble yacht]

it was a slipspace bomb

[pulsar pivot]

Oh ok

Doesnt sound as cool

Being "Slipspace bombed"

[gilded mason]

How about "being irreversibly sent to another dimension with no way out"?

[pulsar pivot]

Sounds better

[humble yacht]

call it "being jorged"

[pulsar pivot]

The bigger question is how did noble 6 get out of the blast radius so quickly

[humble yacht]

gravity

[pulsar pivot]

Well yeah but

Did something push him into atmosphere faster

[terse lava]

I know it wasn't literally nuked, as for contact, believe its been said the LNOS had nothing to do with the other fleet. It was.attempting to get out of there before their arrival

[vapid wing]

Question, are there any other spartans who carved their helmet like Emile did in his EVA helmet ? (All i know is that ONI decided to use this sort of method in Spartan IV using the Wrath helmet and the Warmaster one)

[steep ether]

not really

there has been custom armor permutations tho

[shut dew]

Which aspects of Covenant-species culture would most likely be appropriated by Humans? We've seen examples of the latter but what would appeal to Humanity first?

[steep ether]

kinda ambiguous

i have no idea

[versed helm]

Hey, I have a question about Sangheilis ¿Do they have a "Life expectancy" or something like that? It's for a personal project

[steep ether]

no

but just to verify... @gilded mason and @terse lava , you want to answer?

[gilded mason]

@versed helm
We don’t know the limit to their lifespan, but we do know they can live to least 200 human years and still be fit and healthy.

[versed helm]

Thanks. Other question is ¿How are their "civilian" clothes?

[shut dew]

Stereotypical alien robes

[gilded mason]

We’ve seen them wear tunics and tabards

No robes, though

(Except in the case of a Sangheili priest)

[versed helm]

Thanks

[gilded mason]

👍

[terse lava]

@gilded mason does make me wonder back to that retired soldier turned farmer from Shadow of Intent, who was around 90 and considered old

[gilded mason]

I’ll rationalize it as him being 90 in his home system or something

[versed helm]

I wonder how much of that lifespan is due to advanced technology?

Ancient humanity had lifespan in thousands of years

And Forerunners were basically immortal

[terse lava]

Hm, @gilded mason do you recall if broken circle.said how old Creka was?

[limpid meadow]

I don't think it's ever stated in the book. Just implied to be old, said to make "Ernicka the Scar-Maker look young", implying Ernicka looked old by Sangheili standards.

[terse lava]

I think the closest we get, is that the colony he founded with his name was 64 years prior to the story

[pulsar pivot]

Pog

[terse lava]

Hm?

[versed helm]

Pog

Pog in fact.

[versed helm]

Do Spartans enjoy killing?

[gilded mason]

Some might

[marsh tendon]

ehem emile

emile definetly enjoys killing stuff

[versed helm]

Noble Six was prone to chuckling to himself when killing enemies in Firefight. I am unsure if that is a canonical behavioural trait, though.

[carmine sleet]

Firefight isn't canon

[raw silo]

I think it can happen in campaign

[versed helm]

Well we all know halo 4 multiplayer is Canon

Something something training simulation

[craggy sierra]

idk if tabards are what I call stereotypical alien attire

[main hill]

Most spartan IIIs probably love killing covies considering most of them are orphans because of them and blame almost everything on the covenant, and considering the circumstances they aren't wrong

Honestly I'm pretty sure being at least a lil sadistic towards killing the covenant is a pretty common trait for Spartan IIIs.

[inner basin]

They may have had anger towards the Covenant, but that unruly anger was channeled and disciplined during the Spartan-IIIs training so they wouldn't be reckless

[pulsar pivot]

Makes sense

When in halo 4 and when we see the person talking to halsey say something about mild sociopathic tendencies what are those

[craggy sierra]

That can mean a lot of different things

[inner basin]

^

All you need to take from that line is that according to this agent, the Spartans displayed a toll to their mental health and stability

[pulsar pivot]

Ok

[versed helm]

Sociopathic tendencies does include anti-social behaviour, which is common in Spartans, right?

[craggy sierra]

Yeah

[main hill]

usually

[dawn sapphire]

Could a Spartan rip somebody apart like Chewbacca does?

Surely not right

[steep ether]

it would be very hard, but maybe possible

[dawn sapphire]

That’s kinda EPIC

Also is it a coincidence that 343 industries and 343 Guilty spark have 343 in there names?

[terse lava]

No, the company is purposely named after the monitor

[steep ether]

yes

"Named after the Halo character 343 Guilty Spark, the studio was established in 2007 after the departure of Bungie."

[dawn sapphire]

Ok thanks

[pulsar pivot]

I noticed that like 3 weeks ago

My mind was blown

[versed helm]

I thought they would name themselves "117 Studios", lol.

[pulsar pivot]

343 suits better either way

[half ravine]

It flows better, but I actually do like the name “117 Studios” lol.

[pulsar pivot]

It makes sense tho

[inner basin]

Although 117 is a more prominent number designation in Halo, I do like 343 better as it rolls of the tongue more easily

[craggy sierra]

That would’ve just come across as excessively aggrandizing to call themselves 117 industries

[humble yacht]

It makes sense. 343 Guilty Spark was the custodian for a Halo. 343 Industries is the custodian for the Halo franchise.

[versed helm]

A custodian that world endanger the galaxy as long at keeps the halo ring

[pulsar pivot]

Yup

[shell mesa]

What are the odds that 343 subverts expectations and makes John the son of Jacob Keyes and Halsey and brother to Miranda, with Halsey leaving her son with someone else and that’s why John was her first option.

[gilded mason]

what

[steep ether]

wait what?

that is too much for my two braincells to handle

[shell mesa]

what don’t you understand so I can explain it better 😅

I’m talking about a plot twist for future installments where this could be possibly revealed. It’s silly but the way franchises go nowadays. I don’t doubt this happening

[gilded mason]

Besides everything else about that, Keyes met Halsey when John was already six or so.

[pulsar pivot]

One hell of a fanfiction

[shell mesa]

Interesting. In the introduction, is there a way to write where they met sooner?

Definitely not my fan fiction lol. Just something that came to mind.

[pulsar pivot]

Idk

[gilded mason]

Nah.

[shell mesa]

It’s pretty explicit that that’s their first time meeting?

[gilded mason]

Ye

[shell mesa]

Then never mind.

[humble yacht]

It may not be your fanfic but it’s a fanfic idea if I ever heard one

[abstract crown]

Okay I'm not sure if this is exactly the place for it but having a look at the pure size of the Long Night Of Solace, it makes me very curious how Covenant gets from one side to the other in any good amount of time. I feel bad for them to be honest.

[pulsar pivot]

From what side to what

[gilded mason]

Probably some trams or trains, or something similar

[unique rune]

naw they gotta sprint from end to end
get those steps in

[lucid hawk]

What is the scale of the Kodiak?

I'm trying to make one in minecraft

[pulsar pivot]

Probably around the size of a average M1A1 Abrams

If I can give an Idea of what to build

A Mammoth From Halo 4

[versed helm]

Build the UNSC infinity

[versed helm]

They got those antigrav generators

[pulsar pivot]

Speaking of grav generators

Those sound really fun

[versed helm]

Yeah

[foggy forge]

what confuses me alot is how the covenant managed to sneak a 29,000 metre long CSO supercarrier into reach's orbit without anyone noticing until much later

[sudden night]

magic

[foggy forge]

poof

[limpid meadow]

Smaller ships were sent ahead to setup the spires, which cloaked the carrier.

[pulsar pivot]

Then big spire go boom

And that ship then went boom thanks to the cruiser

[terse lava]

*carrier

[lucid hawk]

How about some of the structures of HW2

Like the barracks

[lucid hawk]

I wish I could but minecraft isn't big enough for it

I can try an make a Paris frigate and some Longsword bombers

[versed helm]

I was reading this forum about Cortana's familiarity with I04, and someone mentioned that John recognised its Slipspace symbols. How is that possible?

[craggy sierra]

Reclaimer

[versed helm]

Did he just "inherit" this knowledge?

[craggy sierra]

Yeah the portion of the human population that have the gene song have an inherent familiarity with forerunner stuff.

[versed helm]

This concept simultaneously sounds absurd and intriguing, lol.

[craggy sierra]

It's how he was able to just walk up to a holo panel and poke it to turn on the light bridge in CE

[versed helm]

I assumed that Cortana translated it for him.

[split stump]

Does anyone actually think noble 6 is still alive. I don't think so.

[latent mason]

does anyone know which armor cal 141 wears in halo legends

is it mk v or mk iv?

[jagged stirrup]

Maybe kids with no understanding of good storytelling. B312’s greatest achievement was making the ultimate sacrifice, that shouldn’t be taken from him.

And most likely Mark IV, Mk. V wasn’t issued to SPARTAN-IIs until August 2552

Her armor is heavily inspired by Red Team’s set from HW.

[latent mason]

yeah i was thinking that

do they differ in size? like alices armor differing to jerome and douglas

are they all just the same size 🤔

[jagged stirrup]

Almost certainly the gel layer and skin suit and custom fitted

[latent mason]

definitely but would the armor appearance differ?

they all seem to be the same build

[jagged stirrup]

In Reach the size of limbs and the armor plating surrounding the extremities changes

[latent mason]

right

it dosent seem like that for the mk iv spartans though

[versed helm]

Yes, there are delusional people in the community.

[steep ether]

the armor differs from males and females. I do believe that some permutations are different sizes, excluding helmets and custom armor. hope that helps

[latent mason]

yeah thanks

[steep ether]

np

[lucid hawk]

What are the variants of banshee

[steep ether]

like a list?

[lucid hawk]

Ye

[humble yacht]

aside from aesthetic differences, there's only two functionally different variants

space banshees and regular banshees

[steep ether]

here ya go: https://www.halopedia.org/Banshee

[stable flower]

There's the Type-26A, Type-26B (model introduced in Reach), the Type-26C (model used in Halo 3), the Type-27 (Space Banshee), and Type-54 (model introduced in Halo 5). The first two have Heretic variants, known as Type-26AZ and Type-26BZ.

[humble yacht]

so basically

billy links the halopedia article

then atp read the article and sorta copied the info into the chat

apache's got life easy

[stable flower]

Nah, I just typed what I knew

[steep ether]

teamwork 😉

[unique rune]

Though rarely encountered by UNSC forces, amphibious Banshee variants have also been commissioned throughout the Covenant’s history to provide multi-environment security for oceanic Covenant installations and deep-sea artifact retrieval missions.
I think about this sometimes

[steep ether]

huh

[stable flower]

Sea warfare is underexplored in Halo

[carmine sleet]

To be fair, the ocean on Earth is scary enough, I don't think we want to find out what's hiding in alien oceans

[humble yacht]

lol, Halo but it's Subnautica

[versed helm]

That sounds like an interesting premise, but people would complain about it being unoriginal.

[humble yacht]

people complain about everything. it wasn't an actual idea, i've just seen subnautica players get scared of the game

[versed helm]

Yes, I am aware of this, lol.

[steep ether]

would be good defense; banshees sitting in the water, an invasion is coming and then suddenly, they come out and bomb the invadors

[unique rune]

On the subject of Banshees I didn't notice until today that the Banished Banshees in what's been shown of Infinite so far seem to be 26B derived instead of HW2's 26A variation.

[gleaming thicket]

Just a daily reminder that the spartan program was never meant to save humanity but to crush insurgencies and Halsey and everyone involved with its initial inception should be tried and jailed for crimes against humanity.

[gilded mason]

As long as it's everyone involved and not just a scapegoat they all pointed a finger at.

[edgy apex]

When John is asked to testify against Halsey for her trial, that’s gonna be spicy

[humble yacht]

Halsey already had her trial

She was actually in prison until they needed her help with the forerunner artifact in SpOps

[edgy apex]

Was Blue team involved at all? @humble yacht

[gilded mason]

Nope

Well, I guess in the case that part of the reason she went to prison was for taking Blue Team to Onyx under false pretenses, but they didn't get involved any further than that

[humble yacht]

It’s not like military court calls character witnesses

[versed helm]

Were there many individuals who inherited this gene containing familiarity with Forerunner technology?

[humble yacht]

Huh?

You mean the genesong? Yea a bunch of humans have it

It’s not passed down through Mendelian genetics tho

[craggy sierra]

There was a percentage of how much of the population had it right?

It wasn’t a small quantity either.

[versed helm]

How are they implanted?

[humble yacht]

They aren’t implanted

Some humans got it as part of the conservation measure 100,000 years ago

How it’s decided who has it in 2560 is down to space magic

[versed helm]

Ah, I see. At least I understand the context for Reclaimer's remake in Halo 2 Anniversary (Genesong).

[lucid hawk]

Sea kig yar

[carmine sleet]

Didn't need to tag me

[steep ether]

No

[lucid hawk]

Sorry

[steep ether]

too- just no

[lucid hawk]

It is a cursed image

[steep ether]

that idea is scary enough

[steep ether]

agreed

lol

on the topic of water, i do wish better water physics appear in infinite

[lucid hawk]

I haven't seen any infinite vids yet

Might check them out

[steep ether]

you should see the gameplay trailer

[brittle gyro]

do the halo rings only destroy life other than the flood? or does it kill flood too

[steep ether]

it doesn't kill the flood necessarily

[humble yacht]

It kills higher flood forms

And any organic life with a brainstorm

[lucid hawk]

Can someone send me pics of the Infection form

Might try and draw one

[humble yacht]

Google search, bruh

[lucid hawk]

Dear god a photorealistic infection form

[terse lava]

Heck, that halo outpost thing made a to scale infection form model

[lucid hawk]

Marines: that is the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life

Aw score I found a away to get a 5 pack of infections at Walmart

[versed helm]

Encountering the Flood as a Marine would be a terrifying experience. You don't have John's sophisticated, vacuum sealed suit as a form of protection from them.

[terse lava]

His suit itself gave him no protection anyway. Only the shields it emitted and Cortana did

[versed helm]

The suit would protect you against the aerobic mutant cells, no?

Doesn't his suit come with air filtration

[humble yacht]

The what

Aerobic mutant cells, do you mean airborne?

[versed helm]

Yeah, I probably used the incorrect terminology in that regard. My apologies.

[stable flower]

Imagine being Samuel L. Jackson and encountering the Flood

[versed helm]

I was thinking of situations where you could aerobically inhale the cells.

You have to inhale enough of it

I imagine that you would inhale a sufficient amount in the levels for Halo CE.

[stable flower]

Sam would do what he does best: exclaim how fed up he is with these monkey-fighting Flood on this Monday-to-Friday Halo ring and, well, you know the rest.

[versed helm]

In halo 3 the whole air was thick with flood spores

Shadow of intent

[steep ether]

you mean high charity and voi?

[versed helm]

Those too

[stable flower]

In Halo 3's Floodgate, there's a Marine that turns into a Combat Form behind anything touches him

[humble yacht]

Huh?

That marine gets snagged by a pod infector

You can save him if you kill them all

[stable flower]

Not that one, the one outside near the big door where the Flood jump down from the roof

He's in the corner to the right

[versed helm]

Is that the Marine in the scripted event near the beginning of the level?

[humble yacht]

Yea

Sergeant look out

[versed helm]

I miss when halo had those horror levels

[humble yacht]

It was hardly scary with how easy the flood drop

And how slow they are

[versed helm]

I wouldn't exactly call them slow

[stable flower]

Floodgate wasn't as scary because Keyes takes away the surprise

[versed helm]

To the chief they could be but can you imagine being a marine

Also in lore they're more harder to kill

You need fire to completely destroy them

Or lots of firepower so they don't come back

[humble yacht]

You said horror levels

[versed helm]

Oh right

My bad

[humble yacht]

Not horror novels

[versed helm]

Even in the games they're scary

[humble yacht]

Not really

By 3 the fear factor is played out

The atmosphere tries its best to be spooky but it’s not really spooky

[stable flower]

^

[steep ether]

Keyes?

[stable flower]

Miranda

[steep ether]

as in meranda keyes?

oh

got it

[stable flower]

Right at the start she tells you its the Flood before they even show up

[versed helm]

Fair enough but the tone had a dramatic shift

Even if you're not scared you would feel a bit uneasy

Marines you just fought with are now dying and turning into infection forms

That would make all sorts of horrifying implications

Imagine fighting alongside someone you remember his face young, college educated maybe married just turn into his an infection form

His face all mangled and ozzing pus

[steep ether]

ah, but this isnt a book, so you don't care about him personally, just that he is infantry

[versed helm]

Remember that soldier that had pstd

He saw his friends and comrades all turn into those things

You might think of him as crazy when you first played it as a kid but think of what he just been through

[steep ether]

just restart the mission and hes as good as new!

[pulsar pivot]

Oh boy

[pulsar pivot]

In halo 3 who was ranting about how he had to shoot his fellow soldier

[versed helm]

Yeah that guy

[pulsar pivot]

I think he was contemplating suicide

[stable flower]

Fun fact: he has the same VA as the crazed Marine in CE

[pulsar pivot]

Oh

[autumn vessel]

swag

[versed helm]

Does anybody know how scary living during the human covenant war would be and im not talking about the flood but that's another story, not knowing when or how the covenant would attack your home planet and with no warning just glassing your home

You're not some SPARTAN either

[pulsar pivot]

That would be pretty scary

If they did end up coming to my planet I'm off the planet

[versed helm]

This is why the UNSC were so secretive about the war imagine if everyone knew the situation they're in

How hopeless it is

[pulsar pivot]

So your telling me that nobody knew about the fact that they were at war with aliens

[versed helm]

Well they did know the covenant but they didn't know how bad it was going for humanity

[pulsar pivot]

Oh yeah that makes more sense

[versed helm]

I think Halo is 40k lite

[pulsar pivot]

I mean it went much better for humans when master chief woke up

Chief be lucky

I think he is irish

[stable flower]

Why would they keep the war a secret?

[pulsar pivot]

That's what I was confused about

Jesus I am smart

[shy hedge]

Weelll... If you knew that an alien race was slaughtering entire planets with ease, how would you feel?

You might thing the gov isn't doing good enough, or even.decide not to join the military

Also, moral would suck

Propaganda

[stable flower]

Collection of races, but now that I think of it, it would cause panic on Earth and the Sol colonies

Regardless, the invasion of Reach shouldn't have been kept secret

[jagged stirrup]

UNSC would fabricate victories and skew casualties and kills. Same as any modern war

[terse lava]

Nothing they could do by the time Reach fell anyway

[craggy sierra]

You know in the grand scheme of things the flood never actually meant that much to really any of the general human population outside of a scant few around New Mombasa who weren’t already dead to the covenant.

They were a 3 month foot note to a 27 year long war

[main hill]

I imagine ONI had a massive propoganda campaign going on so unless you were in the outer colonies you probably didn’t know just how bad things were getting.

[main hill]

Morale, I mean half the things ONI keeps secret are mainly so people wouldn’t panic, so although I don’t think they would keep the entire war secret they probably made the war seem a lot better than how it actually was going.

At least until the invasion of Reach probably

[craggy sierra]

Oh they straight up just had full media control. They locked down most interplanetary social networking so few people actually knew the full extent of the war.

[cedar surge]

it would be full blown panic if they knew how bad humanity was losing

[main hill]

pretty sure the inner colonies would erupt into chaos if they knew the full extent of the war.

[cedar surge]

thats what i said,yes

[main hill]

yea

[cedar surge]

though it looks like some of the army didn't even know the covenant existed?

in reach when you go into one of the buildings there is a army trooper having a breakdown how he didn't sign up to fight aliens

[main hill]

the UNSC Army deserves a lot of credit considering their jobs of holding down planets. Just as much as the Marines.

[main hill]

lmao

[craggy sierra]

That's a trope that happens in media with modern day soldiers

I don't think it had to do with aliens as much as he's now not getting a free ride college education

[cedar surge]

Shell-shocked Army trooper: "Oh, God! I didn't sign up for this! Not aliens, man! That's it, I am out! Seriously, we're fighting aliens now? Innies were bad enough, now we got freakin' aliens? Not me man. I'm out! O-U-T, out! Lemme tell you, whatever you do, don't let them bite you. I hear if one of those little ones bites you, you turn into one! Imagine it, man, we're all going to turn into little methane-sucking freaks! They're going to strap us up with tanks and have us fighting on their side! Not me, man, I'm out! They're not going to get me. No way I'm turning into no squid-faced alien freak! I bet that's what those big monkey-looking Brute things are! They're us, man! They're us, turned Covie and fighting ourselves, man! Oh, God! No way, not me. No way, no way, no way, oh, God, no, no, no, no!"

[main hill]

I like how he thought the covenant would turn him into a Grunt

thats cursed

If the UNSC version of your going to brazil is your going to midnight facility, then the covenants version is definitely, thats it I'm turning you into a grunt.

[high summit]

not just any grunts, deacon grunts

[pulsar pivot]

Oh no

[humble yacht]

Not something appropriate for discussion

[chilly shuttle]

Wow

[versed helm]

Was the Proto-Gravemind capable of hijacking consciences through neural physics?

[steep ether]

not essentially hijacking them, but it could communicate through flood forms and use ones own mind against them

neural physics were used by the gravemind mainly, proto-graveminds usually only used NP to control flood forms nearby to be more efficient

then again, i'm not the best in flood lore

[versed helm]

Thanks.

[humble yacht]

Proto-graveminds aren't strong enough to use neural physics in its full capacity. the Protos assimilate minds the same way infections forms do. whether that assimilation functions via neural physics is unknown, but not unlikely

[steep ether]

thank you for explaining. i misread the question and answered about the gravemind instead of proto

[versed helm]

I have only recently noticed that the Proto-Gravemind houses 2 other Marines in the original version of CE.

[humble yacht]

the proto gravemind is made up of dozens, maybe hundreds of bodies

there's probably more than two marines in there

[versed helm]

I was mainly referring to its visual features.

[humble yacht]

i know but the proto gravemind is like a transformer

more than meets the eye

[versed helm]

Yes, that is proven in the "remastered" version of the game.

[carmine sleet]

Does that mean whenever it's ordering Combat Forms to attack, it tells them "Combat Forms! Roll out!"

[humble yacht]

-_-"

[versed helm]

XD

[stable flower]

It annoys me how the only human Combat Forms we see in-game are UNSC Marines

[carmine sleet]

That's because we've only ever encountered them taking over Marines. Plus the fact that they never wanted to waste time making alternative human Combat Forms when they could have the modellers working on something else

[versed helm]

What were the Spec Ops (Covenant) teams attempting to accomplish by revisiting the PoA?

[humble yacht]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe they were tracking Chief

[versed helm]

Did Thel establish a quarantine zone before it was destroyed?

[humble yacht]

doubtful

[versed helm]

They could have been attempting to find a method of escape. We will probably never learn about the truth, lol.

[steep ether]

there's a bit of info about the troops in the PoA when it exploded in the halopedia artical about Yayap

[steep ether]

when?

[versed helm]

That is the only class of healthy Covenant forces which you encounter in the final level of CE.

[stable flower]

Yeah they make up the final Covenant enemies you encounter

And a LOT of things blow up when you fight them.

[steep ether]

oh, i never noticed that they were spec ops, i thought only Zuka 'Zamamee was

[pulsar pivot]

A good couple were

[steep ether]

huh

well, good to know

[stable flower]

SpecOps Elites caught me off guard when they started throwing grenades

[timid skiff]

does anyone know where i can find a map of the halo galaxy ?

like factions, and which territories do they posses etc

[gilded mason]

Only fanmade ones, 343 doesn't really wanna lock themselves in with a map like that

Here's one of the better fanmade maps, but it's not official.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423571874161754113/748552573681664020/Halo_Starmap_9.png

[pulsar pivot]

The hell is palamok

[gilded mason]

A quick google search away is this:
https://www.halopedia.org/Palamok

[pulsar pivot]

Drone homeworld

Ok

[versed helm]

I can't blame you for not realising it because CEA's visuals are blinding, lol.

I am not referring to its majesty either.

[pulsar pivot]

His almightyness

[versed helm]

Your highness

[cobalt thunder]

Hey guys what’s up with the conversations today?

What r u guys talking about with majesty, almightyness, highness?

If ur talking leaders u can go oh great one

[pulsar pivot]

The Arbiter

[versed helm]

The prophets

[pulsar pivot]

The prophets can go die

....

Oh wait

[steep ether]

too late to the party buddy

lol

[pulsar pivot]

They already dead

I just realised

Everyone got their turn killing a prophet

Master chief, gravemind, arbiter

[pliant quest]

the prophets died

like anyone else would

regret died by a dumb war plan (i think-)
truth died by beliving his own lie
and mercy died by betrayal
(correct me pls-)

[stable flower]

Regret died doing something he regretted
Mercy died when John pulls the infection form off of him
And Truth died telling lies

[versed helm]

Pretty sure Mercy's little name story is the fact that he didn't get mercy from Truth or his peers and was left to die

Not that he got mercy from chief lol

[silent tiger]

“The Great Journey waits for no one, brother. Not even you.”

[versed helm]

Yes, all of their titles are intentionally ironic.

[pulsar pivot]

Same with all the nobles

Jorge loves reach died in space

Kat smart and quick witted gets sniped

Carter strategic and collective dies rushing into battle

Emile willing to kill gets killed by how he rushed the enemy

Noble six was killed doing lone wolf stuff

And June the sniper who stayed back is the only survivor

[chilly marsh]

Yeah, it all adds up.

[craggy sierra]

When is that ever at all stated or implied with Carter?

Like that singular notion is more personality than what he actually has in the game

[pulsar pivot]

Idk I read a comment on a yt video

And I cant remember where 9 found it

And I forgot what it was for carter and Emile

There I fixed it

[versed helm]

Some of yours are slightly wrong.

Emile, a cqc knife expert gets stabbed to death

Kat is the brains and get shot in the brains

Carter the commander and the captain of his crew goes down with his ship

Jun is as usual too far away

Noble 6 dies alone after finally having a team

You were correct about Jorge.

[shy hedge]

Oh the irony

[versed helm]

Ye

[pulsar grail]

I thought Noble Six was

He was a Lone Wolf, he died all alone

[stable flower]

And Jun, the ghost, disappears.

[steep ether]

but more talkative than Casper

also he didn't disappear por say

[versed helm]

Why didn't John decide to sit down in the lifeboat at the beginning of CE?

[humble yacht]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chilly shuttle]

Did we ever get official word as to how Jun survived Reach?

[humble yacht]

No

[obsidian thistle]

We did get a faux-answer from Frank... but erm... I'm hesitant to say he was really being serious

Again take this tweet chain with salt.
https://twitter.com/franklez/status/1057827348676919296?s=19

Frank O'Connor (@franklez)

@MonkeysxMoo35 @Ants_HiveGaming "Jun's armor systems beeped in protest as the heat-warped seals shrank groaningly towards the gel layer of his tech - suit and the flesh beneath. The windless, insistent cold of low orbit leeched into the last few amps of life support...

Twitter · Nov 1, 2018, 2:51 AM

[coral wraith]

In one of the books (Official Halo), I believe Jun got into a pelican with Halsey (Which happens in game as well). Staying with her until safe. Assuming Halsey got out alive, I believe he did as well. I forgot what the book was called tho, been a few years.

[jagged stirrup]

I doubt he would’ve been able to sit in those seats and brave himself due to size

Brace*

[obsidian thistle]

That was Reach. And we have no idea what happens to Jun after that scene they fly away.

All we know is Halsey was at Castle Base and Jun wasnt there.

And Jun was alive in January 2553.

[pulsar pivot]

That book is fistful of arrows

[terse lava]

Its also not canon

Was fan made

[pulsar pivot]

Did they not say it was cannon

[humble yacht]

They said the opposite

[pulsar pivot]

Oh

[coral wraith]

Oh interesting.

[pulsar pivot]

Well it's the closest story we got

God I feel bad for all the soliders who got infected by the flood or had one of their friends infected and had to watch

[pulsar pivot]

Poor PTSD solider

In halo 3

[versed helm]

You can't forget about the traumatised Marine in New Alexandria, although he wasn't rambling about the Flood.

[terse lava]

I doubt the Sangheili save him

[jagged stirrup]

@hybrid axle yes, Kat and the rest of Noble team excluding Jorge are S-III

[hybrid axle]

Right, so my thing is, why didn’t kat and the rest of noble team put on there armor shields like bruh, you’re literally getting glassed

[hybrid axle]

Isn’t Jorge S-ll

[jagged stirrup]

Cuz plot

Maybe the radiation from the energy projectors disabled their shields at the time? Idk

[versed helm]

Bruh

So I just watched aa video about regrets stumble upon earth in h2

I didn't realize how big of a accident his arrival was

Who would have guessed the covenant accidentally find earth when going to the coordinates to the ark when it's really the coordinates of the portal to the ark on your enemies homeworks aka entire defense force

[fair hazel]

I doubt at all their shields get 'disabled'

[terse lava]

Truth guessed, apparently. He was aware of earth as the human homeworld and had been preparing an invasion. Fleet

Actually it is implied the the glassing did disable their shields

[versed helm]

Are there any small covenant ships (phantom size) that could reasonably be lived in that are slipspace capable?

[terse lava]

Nothing that small has yet been shown to have slipspace cabilities from the covenant era. Closest I can think of would be a light cruiser. It, and the larger heavy corvette would have sleeping quarters for the shipmaster, but not the crew. The thing is also 300m long, so not exactly tiny when you think about it

[versed helm]

someone explain halo lore to me in less than 9 minutes

[gilded mason]

Ancient civilizations made things bad for everyone.

[terse lava]

Very ancient aliens created all life, got betrayed and killed by younger alien crestion. Said young alien creations eons later forced to wipe the galaxy of life while being turned into zombies by nightmare aliens, which were reborn remnants of original ancient aliens. Younger aliens then worshipped.eons later by new aliens new aliens go to war with humans because humans may/not be related to younger aliens

Also humans were once young high tech aliens...because neural magic

@gilded mason when you think about it, the various civs really are just the Brady Bunch introduction isn't it?

[gilded mason]

lmao

[chilly shuttle]

The big theory is that an EMP caused by the nearby glassing temporarily knocked out their shield systems. Kat just got hit with a case of her infamous bad luck.

[pulsar pivot]

I think she just neglected to throw up her shield's

[stable flower]

They should've heard the Phantom overhead though

[versed helm]

This is one of those cases where characters forget about certain ability tropes

It happens a lot in fiction where a character seemingly forgets an ability they had for plot reasons

Case in point comics

[cedar surge]

shields don't exist in escalation

[versed helm]

Apparently something called the Mudoat Starsloop exists and it’s like 60 meters and has a slipspace drive

No clue what it looks like, I wish there was more world building done around civilian stuff, both human and alien

[gilded mason]

Man. I really gotta get around to reading Retribution at some point, never knew about this one

[versed helm]

Considering the amount of devastation that slipspace jump did to mobasa has slipspace ever been used as a weapon?

[cedar surge]

Well at reach noble team destroyed a CSO using a slipspace bomb

[humble yacht]

It didn’t do that much devastation

The Mombasa jump, I mean

[versed helm]

It destroyed the space elevator though

[humble yacht]

Not directly

[cedar surge]

No the elevator fell later

[humble yacht]

It weakened the elevator and then the elevator fell hours later

[versed helm]

Oh right

[humble yacht]

So yeah, there was a blast, but it wasn’t that bad

[cedar surge]

Odst is all in new mombasa

And while its still wrecked

Its not that bad

[versed helm]

Yeah I know I played it

[humble yacht]

I mean honestly, how much does it take to weaken a tall, thin elevator in the first place?

[versed helm]

I just forgot that I was in new mombasa

[terse lava]

@versed helm I admit, I had forgotten about that one

[cedar surge]

Well one shot from a CRV frigate destroyed the space elevator at courablo so

[terse lava]

that was a corvette

All 3 were

[hazy summit]

Master Cheif Had a fridge and died

Its a un used cutscene from halo 2

[pulsar pivot]

Woah

It predicted the Xbox Series X

How would the covenant be able to actually shape how the energy swords blade would end up

Like how do they stop it from becoming a circle

[unique rune]

very precise magnetic field control

[versed helm]

Yeh

[wispy wasp]

kinda stupid question but are some planets (ie reach) completely fictional as in nothing would be in the location they exist in or is there an actual planet in the location they would be in (obviously it wouldn't be like how it's potrayed in lore)

[gilded mason]

A few are actual planets, I believe. But most are not.

[wispy wasp]

fair

[gilded mason]

Updated would be best

Yeah

[obsidian thistle]

Well.... in terms of Halo all are fictional.

Some may "exist" but it wont be the same as the irl version of it. The locations of the systems may differ also. Meaning its best to view the entire Halo Universe as seperate for ease of discussion.

A fun example is "Reach" isnt actually called Reach in real life

It isnt even a habitable planet xD

Epsilon Eridani

Again though. Halo may use irl system names. But that doesnt mean they are where they are irl in the Halo Universe.

Just to iron that down :)

[pulsar pivot]

Bioengineering

AM I RIGHT

Hold on does halo take place in

2525

Or

2225

Or

Am I completely wrong

[humble yacht]

2525 is first contact with the covenant

[sharp grail]

Contact Harvest

[sharp grail]

The Halo covenant war war was from 2525-2552

Post 2553-2556 can be found in the books

2557/8 is halo 4&5

Infinite is gonna take place in 2560

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIbbbHtHwiX/?igshid=z8qcwx1aoj0d

Here is the relevant data

And I just added 3 more books. 🤗

Totally got distracted from my question

If Chief is a Spartan and was able to kill an Odst without armour with one punch.

Why does it take so many punches to kill the Prophet of Regret

[humble yacht]

because bungie didn't like One Punch Man

[gentle ridge]

Because regret is like 7ft tall

[pulsar pivot]

Ok

It's a different species who knows how strong they are

[humble yacht]

Prophets? They’re hella weak

Generations of keeping the bloodline pure. Not to mention the forerunners devolved them back in the day

[pulsar pivot]

Oh

Welp

[sharp grail]

Precisely what I was getting at. They cant even walk without a gravity belt

[wispy vapor]

Don't forget the prelates tho

Prophets on steriods

[humble yacht]

they're few and far between

[sharp grail]

But still Swol

[humble yacht]

and Regret wasn't a Prelate

[sharp grail]

We need a San shyum version of that dog meme