#lore-and-universe | Halo | Page 466

elfin rose Mar 15, 2021, 12:47 PM

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I dont need to be be bullied by you

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 12:47 PM

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First off, you're taking that quote completely out of context, second, the whole "Hiring people who hate Halo" misquote was in regards to Halo 4, not Halo 5

elfin rose Mar 15, 2021, 12:47 PM

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The point is it happened

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 12:47 PM

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You're acting off of the misquote, not the full quote

elfin rose Mar 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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No, im acting off the results

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Please talk about halo lore in this channel

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Anyhow, what's everyone's favourite little lore tidbit they know?

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Your statement bears no value as 343i hire contractors. The development team is very different compared to its state in 2011, lol.

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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For example things like Grunts having a blackmarket of human sitcoms

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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I can picture a group of Unggoy watching Cheers.

molten harness Mar 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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pilot

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Someone just tag me?

gloomy gorge Mar 15, 2021, 1:07 PM

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carmine sleet Anyhow, what's everyone's favourite little lore tidbit they know?

that the San Shyuum used to be very attractive

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Didn't need to tag me

gloomy gorge Mar 15, 2021, 1:07 PM

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carmine sleet Someone just tag me?

yeah I said a banned word accidentally so it deleted

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Again, didn't need to tag me

gloomy gorge Mar 15, 2021, 1:08 PM

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I was just replying lol

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Takes less than a second to turn off the tag

gloomy gorge Mar 15, 2021, 1:10 PM

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sorry I'm new to discord, didn't know that was a thing

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Roger that

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 1:47 PM

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versed helm I can picture a group of Unggoy watching Cheers.

Lmao, that’s the funniest thing to say as a means of settling the hate wagon down

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Hm.. The Flood mentioned that AP cores for the unsc rifles are especially hardened

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How specially?

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Got curious after watching some tungsten carbide slugs ripping through AR500 plate

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(12 gauge shotgun)

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 2:05 PM

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you harden metal by heat treating it

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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versed helm Lmao, that’s the funniest thing to say as a means of settling the hate wagon dow...

I aim to please.

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 2:23 PM

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humble yacht you harden metal by heat treating it

Not always. There is also such a thing as cold-rolled metals, but also I think it was allured to something like their Titanium being worked on at a nanoscopic level

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 2:23 PM

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versed helm I aim to please.

Heh

pulsar pivot Mar 15, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Funny man with good quote

raven thorn Mar 15, 2021, 5:29 PM

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if i miss out on odst do i miss a lot of lore?

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 5:31 PM

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not really

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Yes

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You miss out on buck

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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For the mission, The Storm, are we only seeing the Prophet of Truth's fleet in the distance?

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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whut?

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what else would you be seeing?

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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I was just wondering if some of them belonged to Rtas or Thel.

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Rtas doesn't arrive until Floodgate and Thel didn't head to Earth with a fleet before Halo 3

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Rtas's fleet doesn't arrive until Truth's already left

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I cannot imagine how nightmarish it would have been to witness this from a civilian's perspective.

stable flower Mar 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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It always annoyed me how Arby is the only Elite helping out humanity on Earth until the Flood arrived

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Not if you consider N'tho and Uzse being already there canon

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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the other elites stayed back at Delta Halo to hold back the flood

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they only left when the flood broke through their blockade

stable flower Mar 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Wish he had some playable missions in 3, but NOOO, some fanboys are too small-minded and think MC should be the only playable character

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:31 PM

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that wasn't due to fanboys

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that decision was made by bungie

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Joseph Staten didn't have complete creative freedom for that game, right?

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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He was barely even involved at all

stable flower Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Oh

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Wow, that is a pity.

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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He had to not work on it for his health

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Staten was away for much of the game's development, iirc

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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This information makes me question if Thel would have a more important role in the campaign, were it not for Staten's condition.

stable flower Mar 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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I assume he would've had a mission set during Tsavo Highway, as he's absent from that one, outside of co-op

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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versed helm This information makes me question if Thel would have a more important role in t...

Seems certainly possible. Staten always seemed to like writing aliens.

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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i wonder if staten would have noticed that Truths character was totally different

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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We know Johnson's death also would have been different or gone.

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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and at least told the new actor to be more in line with H2's truth

stable flower Mar 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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RIP Robin Atkin Downes Truth

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:37 PM

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gilded mason Seems certainly possible. Staten always seemed to like writing aliens.

Judging by the narrative for H2, this is very true, lol.

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Wait the actor didn't die, did he?

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Nah, he's saying rip to the character that he played.

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 6:39 PM

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k

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:39 PM

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I think there was a voice actor who died from H2's cast, though.

stable flower Mar 15, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Miguel Ferrer

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 6:40 PM

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😔

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 6:41 PM

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He voiced Sesa 'Refumee. ;-;

wintry igloo Mar 15, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Do you need to read anything else before "Halo point of light" ???

carmine sleet Mar 15, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Halo Renegades maybe. Granted, I've not read Point of Light so I don't know if it reintroduces the characters to the reader

humble yacht Mar 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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considering how its a direct continuation, i imagine it would best serve you to read renegades before PoL

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and probably read smoke and shadow before renegades

versed helm Mar 15, 2021, 11:10 PM

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humble yacht i wonder if staten would have noticed that Truths character was totally differen...

I guess that explains why the story felt pretty bad especially playing it directly after halo 2

terse lava Mar 15, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Wait, Sesa's VA died?

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Yeah.

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He also played Albert in Twin Peaks.

terse lava Mar 15, 2021, 11:27 PM

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.....dang, was not aware of that

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Hm, not familiar with whatever that is

gilded mason Mar 15, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Really good show.

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I recommend it highly.

terse lava Mar 15, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Did just watch a clip, does look worth while

main hill Mar 16, 2021, 12:12 AM

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gilded mason He also played Albert in Twin Peaks.

Really?

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Yeh

languid tundra Mar 16, 2021, 12:44 AM

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So why doesnt the UNSC have an LMG?

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 12:44 AM

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Idk

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Do they need one tho?

languid tundra Mar 16, 2021, 12:44 AM

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Oh wait

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I just eemembered

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The SAW exists

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Kinda ugly tho tbh

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 12:46 AM

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Oh yeah that thing

languid tundra Mar 16, 2021, 12:46 AM

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The vk78 would be a great LMG if it had a belt feed attached to it

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And a higher rpm

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Looks more like a dmr

fair hazel Mar 16, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Saw isn't ugly but, it's probably easy to assume the UNSC has a lot of the stuff even if we don't see it in game yet

languid tundra Mar 16, 2021, 12:48 AM

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pulsar pivot Looks more like a dmr

But the gameplay is more along the lines of an improved saw

fair hazel Mar 16, 2021, 12:48 AM

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well, different from asking what that stuff is

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i dont see how it's an improved saw

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 12:48 AM

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It Looks more like a Dmr

languid tundra Mar 16, 2021, 12:48 AM

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Fair point

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 1:10 AM

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languid tundra So why doesnt the UNSC have an LMG?

They have the M247 GPMG which I believe was used in a SAW role prior to the M739's introduction

fair hazel Mar 16, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Uh, we don't see that being used non deployed

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Not in-game, but in-universe, I assume it's used it that role.

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It's pretty much a futuristic M60 (down to the cartridge it uses)

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 3:05 AM

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i'd say closer to m240 given its appearance

barren ferry Mar 16, 2021, 3:32 AM

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At what rank does an Elite become both as strong and as fast as a SPARTAN-II in MJOLNIR?

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Any. Though higher ranks are simply more likely to be

terse lava Mar 16, 2021, 5:04 AM

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Always figured the majors was where the line was drawn

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 5:26 AM

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What is the highest rank a elite can get

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:31 AM

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When did Cortana start recruiting for the created?

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 5:32 AM

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pulsar pivot What is the highest rank a elite can get

It depends on the specialty

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Isn't it, like, Imperial Admiral?

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 5:34 AM

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For fleet command positions, I guess

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For others, you've got Ultras, Councilors, SpecOps Commanders, etc

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:35 AM

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If we're not talking command positions then it'd be a Major or Ultra.
Ultra pre schism.

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Major post.

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Ehhh... post schism actually depends on your faction.

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 5:39 AM

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Was the flood created from the precursor dust?

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(idk I'm dum)

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:42 AM

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I thought so. One was festering in hate until it went, "Aight. You all can suffer."
Then the flood was born. That's a really dumbed down explaination though. There are a few external and internal factors that led up to the point.

Tl;dr yes.

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Thanks but if the precursors made the mantle of responsibility and gave it to the humans. Why aren't they friendly with the humans (this sounds dum already). Are the flood like a different mind or have different motives because didn't the precursors turn into dust so they could be re-animated.

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:48 AM

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The flood is a byproduct of dead precursors. It isn't their collective will. Emphasis on dead and will.

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I thought the Forerunners gave humans the mantle?

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 5:50 AM

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light kiln I thought the Forerunners gave humans the mantle?

I'm pretty sure the precursor's gave humanity it and the forerunners became really angry (I'm gonna search it up)

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I'm wrong

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Lol sorry

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misterchief

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:52 AM

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It's fine. There's a quote that perfectly sums up the flood's thought process.

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"Our urge to create is immutable; we must create. But the beings we create shall never again reach out in strength against us. All that is created will suffer. All will be born in suffering, endless grayness shall be their lot. All creation will tailor to failure and pain, that never again shall the offspring of the eternal Fount rise up against their creators. Listen to the silence. Ten million years of deep silence. And now, whimpers and cries; not of birth. That is what we bring: a great crushing weight to press down youth and hope. No more will. No more freedom. Nothing new but agonizing death and never good shall come of it. We are the last of those who gave you breath and form, millions of years ago. We are the last of those your kind defied and ruthlessly destroyed. We are the last Precursors. And now we are legion."

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 5:54 AM

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light kiln "Our urge to create is immutable; we must create. But the beings we create shall...

Oh the precursors planted life in the milky way right?

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That's why "We are the last of those who gave you breath and form, millions of years ago"

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Yeah. I think so. I know they creared the Forerunners. Not sure about the rest. Sorry.

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 5:56 AM

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I still can't figure out why the Didact calls the Covenant primitives

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 5:57 AM

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That Didact is just a bully.

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 5:59 AM

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light kiln That Didact is just a bully.

The Didact to me is a old man who was born 29482358938(He's not that old but still old) years and didn't get enough sleep so he's bullying the youth

cedar surge Mar 16, 2021, 5:59 AM

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because compared to the forerunners the covenant are just primitives

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and everybody else right now

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except for the created

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:02 AM

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The didact didn't die right?

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Correct

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:02 AM

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They were pretty close to the Forerunner tech tier. As a whole, the Covenant used Forerunner tech to jumpstart their growth. Same as humanity now. Compared to the Didact in Halo 4 they're like tribesmen using stone swords and gambeson against a knight clad in iron.

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:03 AM

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light kiln They were pretty close to the Forerunner tech tier. As a whole, the Covenant use...

What would you call humanity then lol

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Some guy with a stick

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:04 AM

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Before 2556, monkeys with pointy sticks and determination.

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:04 AM

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MONKE vs Forerunner who would win?

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BIG MONKE IN GREEN SUIT

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chiefmini

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Didact;
Completely mutilates a team of Special Ops Spartan II while heavily damage

John Halo;
"Knife go stabby stabby."

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:06 AM

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light kiln Didact; *Completely mutilates a team of Special Ops Spartan II while heavily dam...

Anime logic be like

cedar surge Mar 16, 2021, 6:07 AM

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black team got the fate of being killed off screen

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how cruel

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:08 AM

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cedar surge black team got the fate of being killed off screen

And didn't blue team find their dead bodies

cedar surge Mar 16, 2021, 6:08 AM

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yes

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and barely acknowladged them

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:09 AM

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CSGOMister

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:09 AM

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😢

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:09 AM

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RIP Black team

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Iona is the last member.

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✊

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Anyway got to sleep fun talking halo lore with you all

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Bye!

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Ciao.

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I still want this question answered if anyone had any information regarding.

"When did Cortana start recruiting for the created?"

Just ping me.

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 6:26 AM

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light kiln I still want this question answered if anyone had any information regarding. "W...

Around July 25, 2557

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Thank ye, thank ye!

barren ferry Mar 16, 2021, 6:35 AM

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cedar surge black team got the fate of being killed off screen

Imagine getting killed off screen

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 6:39 AM

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cough Rookie cough

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:34 AM

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He got killed in a book

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Yk I refuse to believe he dead

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I know he is supposed to be but I refuse

light kiln Mar 16, 2021, 7:56 AM

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He died alone after being betrayed by his best friend.

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It is how it is.

cedar surge Mar 16, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Well rookie doesn't have anything to offer by being alive except fighting

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 8:59 AM

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His death was poorly managed, but we cannot re-write history, lol.

foggy forge Mar 16, 2021, 10:38 AM

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can someone explain what operation red flag was? I vaguely remember it involving reach but not much else

timid skiff Mar 16, 2021, 10:41 AM

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hey guys, been wondering. Since Arbiter promised Chief help against the Created, how are our heroes supposed to fight the Guardians? Can those things even be dealt with?

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 10:59 AM

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foggy forge can someone explain what operation red flag was? I vaguely remember it involving...

It was a plan to deconstruct the Covenant's structure through a series of phases.

foggy forge Mar 16, 2021, 11:00 AM

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ok thx, I should probably look up the details on halopedia

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 11:03 AM

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foggy forge ok thx, I should probably look up the details on halopedia

The UNSC cancelled it because notable assets (such as Cortana and Jacob Keyes) were unavailable.

mortal temple Mar 16, 2021, 1:37 PM

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was there ever a keymind of the flood?

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 1:48 PM

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light kiln He died alone after being betrayed by his best friend.

What, no. He wasn’t alone, Buck and Mickey were there to see him die. Also he wasn’t betrayed, he got captured and executed by some innies

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 1:49 PM

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mortal temple was there ever a keymind of the flood?

Keyminds are just any flood form capable of directing other flood forms. A Gravemind is a type of keymind

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 1:50 PM

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timid skiff hey guys, been wondering. Since Arbiter promised Chief help against the Created,...

Yes, guardians can be dealt with. A Huragok once turned one off

mortal temple Mar 16, 2021, 1:54 PM

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humble yacht Keyminds are just any flood form capable of directing other flood forms. A Grave...

thanks a lot

pulsar grail Mar 16, 2021, 1:55 PM

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humble yacht Yes, guardians can be dealt with. A Huragok once turned one off

To op pls nerf

mortal temple Mar 16, 2021, 1:55 PM

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nerf huragok

gaunt oakBOT Mar 16, 2021, 1:55 PM

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timid skiff Mar 16, 2021, 2:51 PM

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humble yacht Yes, guardians can be dealt with. A Huragok once turned one off

thanks for info

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steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 3:39 PM

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when did a squishy robo bomb(fun nick names are fun) do that?

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also i cant tag cause tomp

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 3:41 PM

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in one of the post-H5 novels

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 3:42 PM

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point of light i assume?

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 3:43 PM

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no

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that's still on spoiler embargo

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 3:43 PM

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good point

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ill try to find it myself if spoilers

sleek ferry Mar 16, 2021, 3:55 PM

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How strong were black team?

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 3:56 PM

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not stronger than didact postums

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Black team dancing in heaven now

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chiefslickblack

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Those characters were misused.

chilly marsh Mar 16, 2021, 4:07 PM

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I wanted to see more of black team. But they died.

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 4:26 PM

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The audience deserved to see how that team died.

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:27 PM

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ques grunt birthday party sounds *

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Synthwave will probably be considered as a form of classical music in the year, 2552, lol.

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:39 PM

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old, but not classical

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music hasn't changed very much from current times

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from what we know of atleast

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Did their armor really have much of a difference from Mark VI

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MJOLNIR Black is supposed to be its own thing but like

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:40 PM

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it was a modifyed version

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cause they worked with oni

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so stealth

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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le edge

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spooky secret opr8r

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:42 PM

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sure

pliant quest Mar 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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What if

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hear me out

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fortnite was part of the lore in halo?

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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how in any way

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why would you even think of that??!

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 4:49 PM

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How dare

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:50 PM

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🤮

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 4:50 PM

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You even try to add fortnite into halo lore

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 4:50 PM

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pliant quest fortnite was part of the lore in halo?

I wouldn't think that interesting idea though but even if it is I'm sure it wouldn't interfere with the main lore

pliant quest Mar 16, 2021, 4:50 PM

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steep ether why would you even think of that??!

quratine.

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 4:50 PM

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It would probably be like a alternate reality

pliant quest Mar 16, 2021, 4:51 PM

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west rune It would probably be like a alternate reality

yeah it would

unique rune Mar 16, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Did their armor really have much of a difference from Mark VI
MJOLNIR Black is supposed to be its own thing but like
I mean it was an earlier testbed model of MJOLNIR PAA than the production model Mk.VI. Precedes Mk.VI's rollout by several months at the very least.

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 4:59 PM

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"the team was issued MJOLNIR: Black, which included components later incorporated into the MJOLNIR Mark VI armor.[5] Their armor was painted matte black rather than the green color scheme normally used by mainline SPARTAN-IIs.[6]"-direct quote from halopedia. so yeah, it was basically a prototype of the M VI with different colors

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Fortnite created the main character of the series, the marine robot Halo, so I mean-

craggy sierra Mar 16, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Killer Instinct created the Arbiter

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Fun posting aside, I was just reading about the Battle of Installation 04

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And bro the whole situation the Autumn and her crew found themselves in is terrible

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There was zero chance these guys had at all

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I look at Marines in the early levels of CE and to my tv I’m thinking “bro all of you are going to die within 72 hours”

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Yep, they were all going to die anyways, but at least some of them survived

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Btw, I am listening to Broken Circle again

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:19 PM

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That being said, all their sacrifices were worth it. Installation 04 was undoubtedly the most important battle of the war

craggy sierra Mar 16, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Was it?

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:21 PM

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inb4 some kid says Reach

craggy sierra Mar 16, 2021, 5:21 PM

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No the Ark was kinda way more important

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:22 PM

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The Battle of Installation 04 was still a very important event, though.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:22 PM

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The battle of Berlin is also important but it wasn’t what decided the fate of the war in Europe

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Without the destruction of Alpha Halo, the great Schism wouldn’t have happened and humanity would’ve been defeated probably no later than October

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Didn't the UNSC use schematics and data collected from I04 to coordinate their attacks in H3?

flat estuary Mar 16, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Yeah the battle of installation 04 was most important

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Idk about that but surely Chief’s experience with Forerunner technology and installations helped him in his endeavors aboard the Ark

flat estuary Mar 16, 2021, 5:25 PM

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that's just undeniable fact

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:25 PM

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And Johnson too.

craggy sierra Mar 16, 2021, 5:25 PM

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jagged stirrup Without the destruction of Alpha Halo, the great Schism wouldn’t have happened a...

Truth was actually planning the schism for ages. 04 just gave him convenient reasoning to begin moving plans forward.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:26 PM

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True. But it still couldn’t have happened without the ring’s destruction. That being said- and I think I brought this up a few days ago, why did the prophets betray the elites at literally the worst time possible?

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:27 PM

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It was convenient for the plot, lol.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Like the end of the war could have been a matter of weeks, and they go and shoot themselves in the foot

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@versed helm most easily explainable reason lol

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:28 PM

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The Sangheili were already proving to be difficult to control, so it became a matter of time before internal conflict erupted. The Prophet of Truth decided to accelerate the inevitable after witnessing an opportunity.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I do like the narrative that the sangheili respected humanity’s will to fight until the end

stiff lotus Mar 16, 2021, 5:40 PM

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At some point they just stopped and made a lot of glass on a planet that will not be named

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:42 PM

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jagged stirrup I do like the narrative that the sangheili respected humanity’s will to fight un...

You have provided another reason for why the Prophet of Truth betrayed them. The Elites were already beginning to question their authority because of this. Some of them were willing to recruit humans, and Reff 'Talamee can be used as an example.

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 5:42 PM

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I always liked Michael Wincott Truth more (I thought it was Robin Atkin Downes), he's more akin to Palpatine than Terence Stamp Truth.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Which one is which?

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:43 PM

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He even went as far as to make an attempt at creating another Covenant, though, his efforts were abruptly terminated.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 5:43 PM

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They are talking about truth in halo 2

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Former is H2, latter is H3

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 5:43 PM

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He got stabbed by arby

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Halo 2 Truth sounds more sophisticated and calculating

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Bungie attempted to portray a version of that character who became deluded with power and greed.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Well when you lose everything besides part of the covenant some people would also go mad

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:44 PM

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This behavioural shift happens in a matter of weeks, lol.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 5:45 PM

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High charity fell in 36 days if I am correct

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1 month

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Found a good Reddit post explaining what’s going on in truths head during the games

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 5:52 PM

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I prefer to use Halopedia as my source of information.

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 6:08 PM

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same

west rune Mar 16, 2021, 6:23 PM

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pulsar pivot He got stabbed by arby

Yes he did die by Arby

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Oh

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Lol

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Halopedia is based

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Halo Alpha is for babbies

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Who else never noticed that the arbiter armor was silver until h2 anniversary

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 6:42 PM

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You mean "never noticed"?

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Yes

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Did Thel make some modifications to his armour set before arriving at Earth?

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Possibly

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 6:53 PM

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"Ooo, mandible guards. Neat."

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I do prefer the inclusion of mandible guards.

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Think I like it more without.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:54 PM

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And I liked it more brown

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 6:54 PM

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"This cloaking system is useless. I should clearly replace it with a torch."

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:55 PM

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I like the look of halo 3 miranda keyes more than the h2 Anniversary miranda keyes

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 6:55 PM

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gilded mason Think I like it more without.

That is completely understandable.

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 6:57 PM

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pulsar pivot I like the look of halo 3 miranda keyes more than the h2 Anniversary miranda key...

I like how she partially resembles Cortana in that game.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Idk what it is

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But she just looks odd in the remaster

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It's the hair I swear to god it's the hair

languid tundra Mar 16, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Was there even a reason the unsc changed the pelican's cockpit? It went from apache-like to hind-like

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:24 PM

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They did?

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I dont care enough to notice

vapid mulch Mar 16, 2021, 7:25 PM

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How does the thing on top of the drop pods slow its fall

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 7:26 PM

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The UNSC didn't, Misriah Armory did. And it's a different model. Things change.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:26 PM

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vapid mulch How does the thing on top of the drop pods slow its fall

Ok so you ever belly flop into a pool

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 7:26 PM

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@vapid mulch It creates wind resistance which slows decent.

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:26 PM

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It hurts right pretend the water is the atmosphere

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Now think about diving into it

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It doesnt hurt you go right in

vapid mulch Mar 16, 2021, 7:27 PM

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I see

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Thanks boyz

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Np

vapid mulch Mar 16, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Idky I just thought about that thing

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:27 PM

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It's a surface area thing

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Think flaps on a plane

stable flower Mar 16, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Or snakes

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Or the pool example

vapid mulch Mar 16, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Toa freak explain it perfectly

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:29 PM

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It gives it more surface area which then adds more air resistance which slows it down

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Its effective and affordable

vapid mulch Mar 16, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Unsc big brain

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Indeed

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I would have said that earlier I couldn't think of the word tho

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 7:39 PM

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So could the unknown bipeds that lived on the Planet of Blue and Red be one of the races that died out during the so called Dark Times?

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Hold on ask one of the big lore boys

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Someone who isnt me

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I feel I specialize more in physics and engineering

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 7:53 PM

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@languid tundra cuz halo is power rangers now and an entrance from the cabin compartment would make too much sense

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Halo is Power Rangers? Ok...

And the D-79 does have a cabin-to-bay door. We see it in Halo 5.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 8:03 PM

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What cutscene?

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I didn’t bother playing H5 more than once

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 8:03 PM

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The opening cutscene to the mission "Blue Team"

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Spatially I can’t see how it makes sense but fuhgedaboudit

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 8:07 PM

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It makes plenty of sense. You're likely thinking of the G79 Pelican gunship, which doesn't connect the cockpit to the troop bay.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0bYEToC0zA

YouTube

Xbox

Halo 5 Blue Team Opening Cinematic

Watch the opening cinematic to Halo 5: Guardians Second mission - "Blue Team". Led by the legendary Master Chief, Blue Team boards a derelict Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) research facility to ensure its contents don't fall into the hands of a renegade faction of Covenant zealots.

Ready to join up with Blue Team? Pre-order Halo 5: Guardian...

▶ Play video

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 8:08 PM

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I just watched the cutscene, it makes it appear that the cockpit is no wider than a large human (like a Spartan 2)

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 8:09 PM

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The front of the cockpit, which isn't too different from Halo 3's D77-TCI Pelican

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Nah man, the D77’s crew compartment is way bigger and spacious enough for a few people to sit and stand in

limpid meadow Mar 16, 2021, 8:15 PM

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It gets wider the further back you are. Regardless, the point is, there is a connection from the troop bay to the cockpit on the D79.

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And Spartans take up a lot of room compared to an average Human thanks to their armor.

wicked pine Mar 16, 2021, 9:12 PM

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so this may sound kind of ignorant on my end but what the heck is happening with the story rn? After Halo 5 i kind of really haven't followed along with what's going on because I felt like they just kept jumping from one thing to another.

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Cortana is now space Jesus hal9000 using floaty megatrons to enforce the “mantle of responsibility” from the Forerunners

wicked pine Mar 16, 2021, 9:14 PM

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jagged stirrup Cortana is now space Jesus hal9000 using floaty megatrons to enforce the “mantle...

i followed along that much thankfully but they haven't really made any references to that in Infinite or am i just oblivious

craggy sierra Mar 16, 2021, 9:26 PM

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There’s been clips of Cortana hidden in some trailer audio plus the Shadows of Reach book is very much setting the Created up as an element within Infinite.

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 9:28 PM

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there has been very few references to the created in infinite so far, atleast to our knowledge. but the created will definitely be mentioned and included in the game

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 9:29 PM

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excuse me, may i ask what can i do exactly in this channel

cedar surge Mar 16, 2021, 9:29 PM

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talk

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 9:29 PM

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talk about lore

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 9:29 PM

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general lore?

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 9:29 PM

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sorta

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if you want to talk about random halo things, go to #general-chat

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(:

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 9:32 PM

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steep ether there has been very few references to the created in infinite so far, atleast to...

also im not counting easter eggs

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 9:36 PM

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in the mission the package in halo reach, when one is already finishing it, and in the scene where you can see a spartan II, that will be the master chief, although the truth is i wonder if it will be canonical

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 9:36 PM

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It is not.

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 9:36 PM

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oh

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it's just an easter egg?

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 9:37 PM

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Correct

versed helm Mar 16, 2021, 9:37 PM

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ohhh

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I honestly thought that event was canonical until now.

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same

steep ether Mar 16, 2021, 9:45 PM

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also the level is the PoA

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not the package

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Ye

obsidian thistle Mar 16, 2021, 10:38 PM

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The egg is currently non-canon. It would just complex the already somewhat neat bow 343i did to get TFoR and Reach working

tame belfry Mar 16, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Reach should be noncanon

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Not only was the game trash, it trashed the canon

unique rune Mar 16, 2021, 10:49 PM

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As much as I don't particularly care for Reach, that sounds... a bit extreme.

flint parrot Mar 16, 2021, 10:56 PM

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tame belfry Not only was the game trash, it trashed the canon

Ok why in your opinion is reach a bad game. And give me a legitimate reason as to why. Don't just say because it is or it's trash.

undone plume Mar 16, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Reach was fun I just hate jorges death

flint parrot Mar 16, 2021, 10:59 PM

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undone plume Reach was fun I just hate jorges death

we all do trust me.

undone plume Mar 16, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Lol Kats death was just cheating

flint parrot Mar 16, 2021, 11:00 PM

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undone plume Lol Kats death was just cheating

Kat got 360 no scoped

undone plume Mar 16, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Lol

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Carter's was just no you can take the Scarab out along the way

shy hedge Mar 16, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Then June just kinda said " I'm out a here"

undone plume Mar 16, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Lol juns like im not dying today

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But they were all deaths getting us ready for Johnson

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 11:05 PM

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I don't like it very much, but I accept the explanation of how the game and FoR line up.

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It works I guess.

shy hedge Mar 16, 2021, 11:07 PM

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🇵 🇴 🇬

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 11:08 PM

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and Jun was ordered to go elsewhere

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wasn't much his choice

flint parrot Mar 16, 2021, 11:23 PM

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tame belfry Not only was the game trash, it trashed the canon

And in my opinion I think you don't like reach because grounds you back to reality it makes you realize spartans aren't gods that they are human just like us. I think you don't like it because you aren't an unstoppable force of nature like you are in the other halo games.

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True. Reach isn't a game isn't for everyone but that doesn't make it any less of a good game

tame belfry Mar 16, 2021, 11:26 PM

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flint parrot Ok why in your opinion is reach a bad game. And give me a legitimate reason as t...

Weapons are weak af, the maps have no flow, the storyline is a cliche crapshoot that you've seen in every milscifi, and the story it was replacing was superior in every way.

tame belfry Mar 16, 2021, 11:26 PM

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flint parrot And in my opinion I think you don't like reach because grounds you back to reali...

Dude, we know Spartans aren't invincible. We can die while playing as Master Chief. We know the man's got limits.

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Fax + Lojik

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

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But nobody is entitled to not have consequences of that opinion

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 11:48 PM

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tame belfry Weapons are weak af, the maps have no flow, the storyline is a cliche crapshoot ...

Which weapons

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Ok so what's your opinion on halo 3 Odst

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If reach is "Trash"

jagged stirrup Mar 16, 2021, 11:49 PM

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MA37 is weak

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Your not wrong their but why does it matter use a different gun

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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this is a lore chat

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Fair point

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I was just wondering

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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it doesn't matter if a gun is weak in mp for the purposes of this channel

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Alright then

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Do yall think that the silent shadows could take out master cheif

gilded mason Mar 16, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Anyone can with the right circumstances

humble yacht Mar 16, 2021, 11:52 PM

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maybe

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if he didn't know they were coming

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but luck goes a long way

pulsar pivot Mar 16, 2021, 11:58 PM

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Indeed

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I wonder if noble six was a headhunter

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 12:04 AM

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doubt it

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Didn’t headhunters operate in pairs?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 12:04 AM

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he was a personnel "grim reaper" for someone at oni

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plus jun would know him

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as they would have trained together

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:07 AM

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There was also lone wolf missions

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Where only one of them would be there

tame belfry Mar 17, 2021, 12:22 AM

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pulsar pivot Which weapons

DMR was useless in campaign because of how thick the shields were. The Ar was even weaker than 3 so you were better off just noob comboing, Concussion rifle and Focus Rifle were neigh useless, etc.

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Reach really shouldn't be a thing

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:22 AM

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That's a little extreme

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Dont say it isnt

limpid meadow Mar 17, 2021, 12:23 AM

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humble yacht Didn’t headhunters operate in pairs?

Some did. Among the Spartan-IVs at least, there were also LONE WOLF headhunters. The name potentially implies that Noble 6 was a solo-headhunter.

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:23 AM

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If one at all

tame belfry Mar 17, 2021, 12:24 AM

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pulsar pivot That's a little extreme

I'll die on that hill. The retcons Reach did have been a neverending migraine and the actual gamepaly doesn't back up a painfully mediocre package.

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I don't think it's bad though

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:24 AM

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Bruh

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You literally just said it shouldn't exist

tame belfry Mar 17, 2021, 12:24 AM

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yes

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But I don't hate it

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Eh go tell general instead of us

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I would argue but I'm too tired

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But it did serve well as a prequel to halo: Ce

fresh hamlet Mar 17, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Reach campaign gameplay is definitely a downgrade from 3 and odst

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Gameplay though it was fun

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My only complaint

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Was the brutes

fresh hamlet Mar 17, 2021, 12:29 AM

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So many sections were just poorly thought out/horde mode

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:29 AM

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What I've noticed is halo reach has a go big or go home fanbase

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I like slaughtering enemies

fresh hamlet Mar 17, 2021, 12:30 AM

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Though I did appreciate the dogfighting section on one of the levels

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:30 AM

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What I put it through my mind is
Would I rather have a Halo or No Halo

fresh hamlet Mar 17, 2021, 12:30 AM

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Wish more of that was in halo games

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:30 AM

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I will agree

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They need more space dogfighting

fresh hamlet Mar 17, 2021, 12:31 AM

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I mean I definitely think reach should exist, but yeah it’s not my favorite campaign

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 12:31 AM

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Halo

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:31 AM

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And that's completely fine

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I just dont like it when people trash talk a game for no reason

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 12:37 AM

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reach was not the best but very good

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Yes

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Anyway back to actual lore

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Its funny how quick truth turned to a fanatic

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 12:54 AM

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the prophets are the worst halo characters in my opinion

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they remind me of a turtle whos mother took drugs and alcohol during pregnancy

craggy sierra Mar 17, 2021, 12:57 AM

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That’s not far from the truth

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They’re inbred af

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 12:59 AM

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ugly prophets

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elites look like a lizard mutated to a human like creature

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but i like it

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Lol gravemind looks like a Venus fly trap

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:04 AM

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youre actually right

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Where are his eyes

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:04 AM

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they dont exist

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:04 AM

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And how does he know which one he's talking to

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 1:06 AM

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It’s psychic

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:06 AM

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wheres his ears?? how does he know whos talking to him

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Lol

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:06 AM

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some stones shouldn't be unturned

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:06 AM

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what would a gravemind taste like?

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is that a weird question?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:07 AM

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rotten flesh

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and flood

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idk

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Lol that part where it shows the front of him it looks like he has a mustache

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:07 AM

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i know

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mister gravemind

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Lol

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you know the parts in 3 when she talks and it slows down

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:09 AM

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yes

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im literaly playing 3 rn

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:09 AM

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God that was annoying

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What was she reciting

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:10 AM

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How'd she do that she was all the way in high charity

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Physic

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:10 AM

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you mean psychic

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Shut up

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I know

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:10 AM

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how is it even spelled

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im german so i cant realy tell

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:11 AM

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You spelled it right

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:11 AM

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yay

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:11 AM

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The one thing is what if theres a spore on chief and Graveminds saving him for later to scare her or to "beat" her

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:12 AM

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would be bad

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if master chief falls to the flood

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mass destruction weapon noises

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:13 AM

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So does Cortana still care about master cheif

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Or no

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:13 AM

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i guess

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yes

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 1:13 AM

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She probably likes the idea of him

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Sounds about right

haughty swift Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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What is that?

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👀

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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why are the grunts still in the covenant even tho they flee at every battle

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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mass numbers

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Probably so you can get practice shots

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Leaving the Covenant isn't really something you can do

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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suicide bombs

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:15 AM

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kamikaze

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Cannon fodder

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:16 AM

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annoying

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Swarm

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Lol grunt birthday

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:16 AM

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explosive shield

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theres a big list

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:16 AM

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yap yap the destroyer flashbacks

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:17 AM

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plus no one know that they flee because they ded

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:18 AM

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i made a big mistake

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search for halo in the discord gifs

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Oh no

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DONT

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DO IT

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:19 AM

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thick

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:19 AM

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lol

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:19 AM

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chiefmini

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amongchief

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:19 AM

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pulsar pivot <:amongchief:760600494715437066>

amogus sus

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:19 AM

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cone

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Cortana sus

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:20 AM

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imma head out

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Aight

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:21 AM

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bye

undone plume Mar 17, 2021, 1:21 AM

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Ok byeee

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:21 AM

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remember

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never search for halo in gifs

pale sandal Mar 17, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Hm

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 1:22 AM

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alright, lets stop with the gifs now

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:24 AM

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Yes

fair hazel Mar 17, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Not the place for them

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 1:41 AM

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Yes

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They are not

jovial haven Mar 17, 2021, 1:52 AM

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OK, back on topic with a lore question: Why are the Forerunners so dumb? Why did they, the species with the most advanced technology that once ruled the galaxy, decide it'd be a good idea to "secure" the most dangerous lifeform in the universe in glass containers which the Covenant and UNSC would later break?

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Like yeah, "let's make the ultimate sacrifice and wipe out all of the Flood's potential food including our own species but y'know what, let's leave some Flood in our research facilities for some other stupid species to stumble on and start the whole assimilation of the galaxy's species by the Flood again in another 100,000 years or whatever"

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 2:03 AM

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So they could hopefully eventually come up with a cure

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And document it

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Better a known enemy than a unknown one

unique rune Mar 17, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Yeah, the whole point was to keep samples for study in hopes of finding a cure at some point.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Even though there is no cure for the Flood

unique rune Mar 17, 2021, 2:25 AM

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I mean, yeah, but they wouldn't necessarily know that.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 2:25 AM

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So a Halo Array pulse can still kill you even if you go deep enough underground?

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So how many species did the Covenant wipe out before their encounter with humanity?

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Not any I think

cedar surge Mar 17, 2021, 2:29 AM

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i think there was a reference to one

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and the covenant were going to wipe out the lekgolo worms before realizing some didn't eat forerunner tech

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which now that i think about it

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I'm more surprised that humanity got to achieve galactic peace for a little while without wiping out any races themselves 😂 😂

cedar surge Mar 17, 2021, 2:30 AM

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worms managing to eat forerunner tech

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there isn't galactic peace

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but if the unsc did have the power they would wipe some out

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Well I would imagine that the Covenant encountered numerous races throughout the galaxy during their search for the Halos, including the races we see in the games, like before their encounter with humanity

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 2:35 AM

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We know of one from nightfall

wicked pine Mar 17, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Do you guys think Infinite is going to have a lot of pay off related to lore? I feel like there's just been lots of build up for the last decade without a lot of satisfying conclusions game wise. idk about the EU.

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 2:35 AM

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idk

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 2:37 AM

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You mean that race that looks like it came out of Star Trek

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Yeah, the crappy one.

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Although tbf halo has had a very unrealistic look at alien races since halo 2 and 3, with the "peacemaking" nonsense. Race war is the default, natural state IRL, I don't see why that's not the case with species. Stuff like 40k and starship troopers do a much better job at showing off a more realistic look at humans warring with aliens in the galaxy. Always rubbed me the wrong way, but it's still cool to see that kind of ideal, feel good stuff.

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Bro I remember starship troopers

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My god big bug aliens

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 2:48 AM

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So what other alien races did ancient humanity make alliances with besides the San'Shyuum?

cedar surge Mar 17, 2021, 2:55 AM

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thats all we know right now

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 3:09 AM

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It'd be based if they had exterminated a few. The nastier ones, that is. They knew what needed to be done with the flood, for example.

cedar surge Mar 17, 2021, 3:15 AM

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based to do genocide?

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Genocide

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HELL YEAH

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 3:17 AM

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^

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 3:17 AM

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I dunno about that one, chief.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 3:20 AM

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versed helm You mean that race that looks like it came out of Star Trek

their called yonhet

oak mantle Mar 17, 2021, 3:21 AM

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gilded mason I dunno about that one, chief.

Soy

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 3:21 AM

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https://www.halopedia.org/Yonhet

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Yohnet are crappy design

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One of the things I like about halo alien design is how utterly alien they look in comparison to other sci fi universes

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 3:28 AM

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if frogs dated humans but cheated on them for a frogfish

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 3:28 AM

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Lmao

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Is it weird that I felt sad for the Librarian throughout Halo Silentium?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 3:52 AM

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no

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well, idk

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havent read the book

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Probably not

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I wouldn't know either

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 4:51 AM

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I do feel bad for her in general

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:07 AM

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I feel like I’m in a 40K server

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:07 AM

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oak mantle It'd be based if they had exterminated a few. The nastier ones, that is. They kn...

Prove you’re a real 40K fan

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We know Jackals and Brutes feast on live humans and prisoners, but I wonder what kind of messed up things the Sangheili have done

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 8:14 AM

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Committed tax fraud

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:14 AM

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LOL

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Nu but they’re great and all, but st the end of the day.. They’re lizard people

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You know they’ve done something that he SoS are kicking under the rug

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“What about-“
“Let’snottalkaboutthat”

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:41 AM

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We know that they have killed unarmed civilians in the past.

strange ermine Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Cortana did nothing wrong

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how humanity has treated the created has been totally unacceptable and I hope 343 doesn't try to depict her has the villain

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:44 AM

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I don’t think it’ll last

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I’m not even certain on them killing her in 4, let alone making her evil

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I want to see a new AI in Infinite but we know that will never happen.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:01 AM

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@versed helm commited genocide

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:16 AM

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I think he was asking about instances involving brutal/inhumane methods, such as the Kig-Yar or Jiralhanae consuming their prey.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 10:25 AM

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You know, that's a good question. The Sangheili have their honor, but they also saw humanity as inferior during the H/C War. I wouldn't put it past them to have experimented on POWs to find more efficient ways of killing humans.

foggy forge Mar 17, 2021, 10:33 AM

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chilly shuttle You know, that's a good question. The Sangheili have their honor, but they also ...

ONI definitly experimented on sangheili POWs with the flood

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Yeah, but then again, ONI's just a crapstain on the face of humanity at this point. Seems 343's really going the whole "Shadow Government" route with them.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Bungie were already establishing that ONI used unethical methods in the past.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Wasn't that mostly Ackerson, though?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:45 AM

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Was Ackerson responsible for the experiments being conducted on the Mona Lisa?

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 10:47 AM

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No, but I wouldn't have put it past him.

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Keep in mind, this was the same guy behind the Spartan-III program.

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Which was "Take war orphans, turn them into budget Spartans, then throw them en masse on suicide missions."

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:50 AM

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You can't just cast all of your blame onto one specific individual. Remember that there was a Spartan Program prior to this one.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Right, but at least SPARTAN-I and SPARTAN-IV used adult volunteers.

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Personally, I think Halsey should be thrown into the deepest pit the UNSC has and forgotten.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:53 AM

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The Spartan II Program involved kidnapping children and replacing them with genetically flawed flash clones. These children were forced into lives of discretion before they even reached the age of 10.

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We cannot forget about Spartan B-312 as well. An ONI operative who was tasked with eliminating entire militias that were fighting for planetary independence.

carmine sleet Mar 17, 2021, 11:05 AM

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chilly shuttle Personally, I think Halsey should be thrown into the deepest pit the UNSC has an...

Serin Osmin? Is that you?

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Hm? Who's that?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:16 AM

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versed helm <@456226577798135808> commited genocide

No, something more.. hands-on. Personal

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The fight between the master chief and Locke made no sense lore wise

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:17 AM

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chilly shuttle You know, that's a good question. The Sangheili have their honor, but they also ...

I think the Sangheili-equivalent to that kind of savagery would be ritual sacrifice

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:17 AM

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versed helm The fight between the master chief and Locke made no sense lore wise

Please don't mention Halo Follower's interpretation of events.

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The nut-cracker

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:18 AM

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winces

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:18 AM

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versed helm Please don't mention Halo Follower's interpretation of events.

The what-?

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I wonder if any Zealots kept humans as pets

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No I just read up on augmentations

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:19 AM

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versed helm I wonder if any Zealots kept humans as pets

Probably not.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:20 AM

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It’d be more believable than “having one as their own”

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Like a certain tv show

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:21 AM

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chilly shuttle Probably not.

Look at Ripa in Halo Wars with Anders, see how that changes you mind 😂

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:22 AM

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versed helm No I just read up on augmentations

Spartan IVs are like 70 percent machine

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But I’d say Chief would still be the victor

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Augmentations don’t make that much sense

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Nup

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It’s physically impossible for your impulses to move at the speed of light

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Since these impulses are mostly electrical

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And therefore carry weight

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When was that ever states lol

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Stated

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It’s how they react so fast

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Their impulses just move so much more faster

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They’re about 5 times faster than bleeding edge human reflexes

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Exactly

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I do- need to read about spartan IV augmentations though

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SIV augs are messy

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Heavily depends on the writer

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There isn’t an official interpretation of each augmentation from what I can tell

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Only what it lets spartans do

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So every augmentation depends on the reader and writer

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Basically

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But it’s mostly just general physical stats

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Nothing exotic like with an Astartes from 40K or something

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Astartes are just insane

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The amount that goes into making one

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Some processes differ between chapters.

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Does anybody know how much calories goes into feeding a Spartan

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I imagine master chief eats like Goku after missions

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Considering body size and training master chief would be stuffing down whole steaks

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Yeah- I’m curious on that as well

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Yeah, that's something that they never really touch on.

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I know the Clone Commandos in Star Wars were prodigious eaters due to their insane metabolisms.

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(this is somewhat relevant because the person who introduced this little factoid, Karen Traviss, now writes for Halo, so she may introduce something similar.)

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Didn't she write the Kilo Five trilogy?

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:38 AM

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She did.

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For Star Wars, she wrote the Republic/Imperial Commando series (Last novel left unfinished due to her leaving. She left because she didn't approve of the direction Clone Wars took the Mandalorains, her pet project), a third of the Legacy of the Force series, and a third of the Fate of the Jedi series.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:41 AM

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I have heard that her work for Halo suffers from an abundance of inconsistencies and inaccuracies. She also seems to have a personal vendetta against Catherine Halsey and the Sangheili.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:42 AM

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TBF, Halsey has a lot to answer for.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:42 AM

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She does

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:42 AM

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So, that can be justified.

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You know, I kind of want a novel based around Noble Team pre-Reach.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Does that excuse her ability to sustain a punch from a Spartan?

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:44 AM

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If only because I want more Carter in my life.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:45 AM

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versed helm Does that excuse her ability to sustain a punch from a Spartan?

Depends. Was the Spartan punching her full-force?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:48 AM

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The blow was strong enough to transfer vibrations across her arm.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Not full-force, then.

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Since you can do that with a decent-strength punch.

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Full-force would have crushed the arm.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 11:53 AM

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According to what I was told, she should have suffered from severe injuries.

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Maybe the Librarian did something to her?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 12:13 PM

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I wouldn't know about that as I never took the opportunity to read those novels.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 12:52 PM

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Want inconsistent how does captain forge take a punch to the gut from the arbiter

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 12:55 PM

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^

carmine sleet Mar 17, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Forge wasn't a captain and the Ripa was likely purposely throwing his punch since he wanted to taunt and mock Forge before killing him

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Plus, just because someone's a big and strong alien, doesn't mean a single gut punch is going to kill someone smaller than them

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:26 PM

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People survive being attacked by Polar Bears, at that

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But still, taunting

craggy sierra Mar 17, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Bears usually claw you, not punch you.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Well no, I mean people being pinned and glanced with paw swipes, that sort of thing

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Elites could claw, too. Their claws are huge in Halo Wars

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Have we ever seen this happen in a novel before?

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 1:41 PM

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if an halo ring fires does your body like disentigrate or do you just fall to the ground dead?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:44 PM

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I think you just disentigrate

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 1:44 PM

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^

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 1:44 PM

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versed helm I think you just disentigrate

no

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:44 PM

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What does happen?

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Given that in Origins, the Flood disintegrated.

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 1:45 PM

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that was from the Solute that the Forerunners sprinkled on worlds before firing the Halos

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:45 PM

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versed helm Have we ever seen this happen in a novel before?

Sadly not. Their claws are very prominent in Halo Wars 1

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:46 PM

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versed helm I think you just disentigrate

It was retconned that they don’t disintegrate you. Tbh I think the solute concept is really stupid

chilly shuttle Mar 17, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Aye.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 1:46 PM

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I sprinkled the entire galaxy like food prep in hospitality

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No, I mean the ring is this neural physics thing anyway, just make it that it turns you into flowers like Oogway or something

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 2:17 PM

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versed helm Sadly not. Their claws are very prominent in Halo Wars 1

To be fair, the length of Thel's claws are obscured by his gloves.

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Which is a little weird

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Why not use your claws in close combat? Lol

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They probably view it as being dishonourable.

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..Using their biological function of combat is dishonourable? XD

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What else do they use them for? Wood whittling?

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I wouldn't know, Web. I can't exactly ask them this question.

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They so sort of have a finesse to them, idk

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Maybe it’s more common for the Sangheili on their home planet now, traditional and such

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I wonder if they receive manicures for those claws, lmao.

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By using them lol

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On bone or something

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But that’s a good easter egg

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Thanks for that pleasant thought.

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Yw

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I was imagining them plucking the brains from a wooly mammoth

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Origins was hardly accurate. @chilly shuttle

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 3:37 PM

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versed helm Please don't mention Halo Follower's interpretation of events.

this is an insanely late message, but 1. it was a joke, 2. although the fight was a little unrealistic, locke specializes in cqc combat and hand to hand combat because he was an oni operator

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 3:39 PM

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actually it's never stated what type of combat he specializes in

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his role in Section 3 was "acquisitions specialist", which is a fancy term for assassin. but we don't know how he assassinated

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it's likely that he was proficient in a variety of kill techniques

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Could Sergeant Johnson not wait for a few more days before activating the Ring in H3? He probably would have lived if that happened, lol.

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 3:41 PM

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who knows what the flood could have done in 3 more days

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 3:42 PM

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The Gravemind was accumulating in mass. Could the Monitor not protect them?

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 3:43 PM

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it's not necessarily about just them

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the flood could have shifted focus to disabling the ring itself

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they could have broken into the control room

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they could have fixed up a ship on High Charity and flown away

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Surely these pressing matters would override Guilty Spark's protocols?

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 3:46 PM

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huh?

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what are you talking about

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those protocols exist for situations exactly like that

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 3:57 PM

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He literally stated that "protocol dictates action". Am I simply misinterpreting his quote?

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 3:57 PM

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His protocol is to protect the installation

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but he was also crazy so its not like you can expect him to make logical decisions

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Fair enough.

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:02 PM

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I think the goal was to physically destroy Installation 04B because the gravemind was attempting to rebuild itself.

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:02 PM

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no

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:02 PM

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no u

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:02 PM

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the goal was to purge the flood using the halo effect

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Obviously didn’t work if Chief survived on the same side of the portal

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:03 PM

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he wasn't on the same side

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Explain

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:03 PM

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the ark is outside the milky way

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Requiem is inside the milky way

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you don't drift 100s-1000s of lightyears in only 4 years

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chief's part of the ship was ejected from slipspace early

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:05 PM

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You don’t need to educate me on space lmao

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:05 PM

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if you thought he drifted to requiem from the ark, apparently i do

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 4:05 PM

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You asked for an explanation.

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:05 PM

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It’s science fiction tho so many things like the arrival at requiem happen for plot

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How would the dawn suddenly just be split in half in the middle of transit if not the portal collapsed on it

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:05 PM

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science fiction is rooted in science

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that's a good question

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it's an unfortunate plot hole

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Like the way Cortana describes it in the post credits cutscene of Halo 3 implies the portal closed as the dawn was transiting its “event horizon” if you will, like a hot wire through butter

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:12 PM

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well we know the halo fired to some degree because the HW2 phoenix logs state how it's "cleansing energies" destroyed the gravemind

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besides, if Cortana noticed that they had survived the pulse then she wouldn't have said the Flood were finished

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:14 PM

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jagged stirrup How would the dawn suddenly just be split in half in the middle of transit if no...

ship: += portal: ( )

+(=)

requiem ( ) = earth

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understand

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?

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:14 PM

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no

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:14 PM

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part of ship goes in

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part doesint

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portal goes to earth

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:15 PM

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it had to have made it in in order to end up back in the milky way

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:15 PM

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other part goes to requiem

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I adore your illustration.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:16 PM

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i tryed

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:16 PM

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lmao

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:16 PM

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remember that it's like a month-long trip to get from earth to the ark using the portals

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it's not instant

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:16 PM

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ship goes in portal and only half comes out at earth

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:17 PM

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that means that at any point during the month-long journey, half the ship broke off and fell out of slipspace

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why only half? who knows

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Pointless conversation anyways

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:18 PM

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why did the frigate get remodeled

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who knows

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:18 PM

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artistic license

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:18 PM

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sure

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Yeah that always bugged me.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:21 PM

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"The ship entered the slipspace portal, which collapsed as the ring's energy pulse hit. Forward Unto Dawn was cut in half as a result... The forward section, containing the Arbiter, returned to Earth and crashed into the Indian Ocean, and he was rescued from the wreckage by a UNSC recovery team... The aft section emerged in unknown space, John and Cortana having survived the Halo's pulse. The Spartan and AI were left in a drifting hulk without working propulsion."

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:22 PM

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that from halopedia?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:22 PM

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yeah

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:22 PM

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yea whoever wrote that did their best to try in fill in the blanks

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:23 PM

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it sorta makes sense tho

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:23 PM

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but all we actually have to go in is cortana saying "we made it through just as the portal collapsed. well, most of us made it"

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:23 PM

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"The forward section, containing the Arbiter, returned to Earth and crashed into the Indian Ocean, and he was rescued from the wreckage by a UNSC recovery team..." this we know tho

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:24 PM

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yea we saw that

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:24 PM

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but it makes sense

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:24 PM

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but the part about chief and cortana, they made some assumptions

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 4:25 PM

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"we made it just as the portal collapsed" vs "which collapsed as the ring's energy pulse hit. Forward Unto Dawn was cut in half as a result"

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they just paraphrased a quote

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 4:26 PM

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the collapse of the portal was more likely due to the damage to the ark

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since the ark generates the portal

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the damage to the ark being due to pieces of the halo falling on it

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Unsc + Irl = United nations ~~space command~~ Security council

jagged stirrup Mar 17, 2021, 5:33 PM

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CNN messed that up one time using the Halo UNSC symbol during a segment in the security council lmao

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I thought it was the BBC who made this mistake?

stable flower Mar 17, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Omg I remember that

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 6:31 PM

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what?

stable flower Mar 17, 2021, 6:49 PM

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BBC using the UNSC symbol for the UN Security Council

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Bruh lmao

carmine sleet Mar 17, 2021, 6:52 PM

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versed helm I thought it was the BBC who made this mistake?

If I recall, the BBC has made that mistake multiple times

limpid meadow Mar 17, 2021, 6:59 PM

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BBC did it several years ago, and then I think CNN did it more recently.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 7:04 PM

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oh yea

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bruh the TM dont work

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here

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:04 PM

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the TM?

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you mean like Soon™️

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 7:06 PM

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yae

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yea

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it normal works

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:08 PM

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maybe you just did it wrong

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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are there any missions in halo 4 with unsc marines?

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Yes

mortal temple Mar 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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ok thanks

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:11 PM

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you see some marines in Reclaimer and Shutdown

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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And Infinity

stable flower Mar 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Infinity, Reclaimer, Shutdown and Composer.

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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oh yeah, composer too

stable flower Mar 17, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Technically only three of those four, as Shutdown has them in a non-combat scenario

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 7:22 PM

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humble yacht maybe you just did it wrong

i didnt do it wrong tho it works on other servers

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:23 PM

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it works here too

languid tundra Mar 17, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Why do odst drop pods not have droque chutes?

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:25 PM

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they have air brakes

languid tundra Mar 17, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Cool

stable flower Mar 17, 2021, 7:26 PM

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languid tundra Why do odst drop pods not have droque chutes?

To ease the landing?

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:27 PM

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not having drop chutes would make it a harder landing

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but they're designed for hard landings

languid tundra Mar 17, 2021, 7:30 PM

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No i mean

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The chutes that capsules have

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Like soyuz and apollo

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 7:31 PM

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space capsules are designed for soft landings

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they'd explode if they crashed as hard as ODST drop pods

languid tundra Mar 17, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Oh, gotcha

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Yeah they wouldn't survive

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Imagine a space capsule coming in from atmosphere as fast as oa odst pod and when they hit the ground it ain't gonna survive

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Do you think that some colonies suffered from Kessler syndrome?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 8:12 PM

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the what syndrome?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:17 PM

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A theory that focuses on how space pollution could recreate the domino effect.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 8:18 PM

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i have no idea

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... mainly because i don't really know what your talking about

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umm, maybe? how would you think that would happen?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 8:24 PM

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It would have to begin with a piece of debris colliding into another.

dapper harbor Mar 17, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Are there covenant races that traded with humanity during the war? There weren’t right? Because i got a dude trying to tell me there were some that have been in the books since the beginning

fair hazel Mar 17, 2021, 8:33 PM

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kig-yar

dapper harbor Mar 17, 2021, 8:33 PM

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The kig yar traded with humanity during the war?

fair hazel Mar 17, 2021, 8:36 PM

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On the Rubble

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 8:50 PM

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and with insurrectionists earlier in the war

timid skiff Mar 17, 2021, 8:51 PM

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what or who is harbinger?

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been wondering since it's mentioned by war chief Elscharum that it helped the Banished bring the will of Atriox

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Nobody knows

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I think

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 8:56 PM

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some sort of entity that is apparently allied with the banished

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could be an ai vehicle, a new species, a new faction, almost anything

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Harbinger is a singular term so it’s unlikely to refer to a faction

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 9:13 PM

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the harbinger

the covenant

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now that i read it... yeah its probably not a faction

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:20 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if it is Cortana.

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Though they call her "The Apparition" in Shadows of Reach.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I haven't read that book yet, unfortunately.

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Ah

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I actually plan to order Silent Storm and SoR soon.

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:22 PM

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👍

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:22 PM

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As for this "Harbinger", some people speculate that it's a fragment of Mendicant Bias.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 9:22 PM

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maybe

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Something I have a whole lotta doubts on

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 9:23 PM

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i think its some sort of ai or something

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:23 PM

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It could be a completely new character for all we know.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 9:23 PM

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or something related to it

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probably not an elite

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Could it be the name of a ship?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 9:25 PM

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a person or thing that announces or signals the approach of another.

a forerunner of something.

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the definition

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on google

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this what the banished call it

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it's actual name could be entirely different

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Aliens make weird names for things

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They called Monitors oracles

quiet frigate Mar 17, 2021, 9:30 PM

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humble yacht They called Monitors oracles

yeah but aliens didnt coin harbinger right?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:30 PM

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That term could have been translated.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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might be something related to mendicant and the primordial, with knowledge that spans 100s of years

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:35 PM

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yo the covonent hate humanity for the way it is also the cov yeah let’s enslave the grunts and make them fight

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:37 PM

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the banished aren't religious like the covenant, so they'd probably just call it what it is and not have some other word for it

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my guess, its what cortana's calling herself

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:37 PM

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Some alien species are portrayed as intelligent wise ect ect if their wise then they should thier is good and bad in everything and understand human shouldn’t go extinct for other people being naughty in life lol

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:38 PM

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especially considering like 90% of the fanbase probably have no clue who mendicant bias is

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:39 PM

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crude grotto the banished aren't religious like the covenant, so they'd probably just call it...

The Banished call her "The Apparition" in Shadows of Reach.

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:39 PM

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they did?

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guess im wrong then

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:39 PM

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By the way I’m new here hi

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Ye, 'Gadogai calls her that

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As well as Castor

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:39 PM

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ah

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i haven't gotten to reading shadows of reach yet so forgive my lack of knowledge

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:40 PM

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👍

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:41 PM

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ok yeah so then it could very well be a fragment of mendicant bias

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:41 PM

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hypecat

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:41 PM

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especially considering he's allied with the flood, they could be calling him the harbinger because he wants to bring about the humans end, which is a common goal for both causes

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:41 PM

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amongchief you mater chife sus

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:42 PM

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crude grotto ok yeah so then it could very well be a fragment of mendicant bias

Probably not. He was fully on the Ark before being able to put a fragment of himself onto the keyship. So not much opportunity to also get a fragment somewhere completely different

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Man Elites treat the flood like I treat Edgy people

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:43 PM

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And having a fragment that's still evil and isn't good like the main portion feels a bit too much of a retread of Cortana

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:43 PM

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thats true i suppose

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does evil cortana have the logic plague? because i remember seeing i think it was hiddenxperia say that they've done all but confirm she does

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Nah, she doesn't

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Nothing really supports it

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The thing that Xperia thinks confirms it is probably the lore crates. However, they were basically made to provide every single explanation under the sun for why she is the way she is. A san'shyuum hypothesizing she has it is just one of the many answers given in it.

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:47 PM

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i see

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:48 PM

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my fave halo the first one I played

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Super dooper mega pooper

crude grotto Mar 17, 2021, 9:49 PM

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im more of a halo 2 guy myself

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:49 PM

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scoopdy poopty poop poop

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Let’s not post nonsense, please and thanks

dusty prawn Mar 17, 2021, 9:50 PM

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The Cortana comic where she goes and plays around with the Warden Eternal shows that she was a recombination of the many rampant fragments that were discarded in the last halo 4 mission, and then shunted through slipspace when the ship went to save itself.

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:50 PM

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pulsar pivot Man Elites treat the flood like I treat Edgy people

Can you fault them for it?

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:51 PM

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What you call of noncese I call being my self

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Don't be yourself in this channel, then

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:52 PM

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versed helm Can you fault them for it?

If they fake things for attention, then yes

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Pal I don’t need your opinion and don’t want to cause an argument either

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Talk about that in general then

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:52 PM

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pulsar pivot If they fake things for attention, then yes

Who are you referring to?

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:52 PM

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People I dont like

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:52 PM

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amongchief master chief never sus

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Indeed

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:53 PM

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I was originally referring to the Elites' cautious nature when countering the Flood.

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Oh

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The edge lords

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Spartan Lockedown

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:55 PM

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versed helm **I was originally referring to the Elites' cautious nature when countering the ...

Well no you cant fault the elites but you can fault the edge lords if they fake injury for attention

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 9:56 PM

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I don't think that's related to the Halo universe.

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:56 PM

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My name master chife Keefe

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Stop, please.

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 9:56 PM

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I’m having fun cheer up please

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Man grunts do be looking like turtles

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Your not wrong

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Jackals from halo 4 look like dinosaurs

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 10:00 PM

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chees
Master chife
Master cheese

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Why do we see in halo 3 arbiter carrying human weapons and sgt. Johnson carrying elite weapons when they are about to go through the portal to the ark

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 10:01 PM

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craighearts

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 10:01 PM

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pulsar pivot Why do we see in halo 3 arbiter carrying human weapons and sgt. Johnson carrying...

Cross-species unity

dusty prawn Mar 17, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Bonding exercise

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and showing they (arby and johnson) are crossing species lines by utilizing weapons they think are the most effective

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Oh

dusty prawn Mar 17, 2021, 10:02 PM

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putting the mission above personal feelings

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I mean, arby is over there taking all the good heavy weapons, but johnson pulls back with those super good brute-killers known as the carbine. Good all around

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Makes sense

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Grunts look like turtles
Tiny duck behind sheeld species look like terradactel

dusty prawn Mar 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Another potential, but less likely, lore reason is they hated each other so much they decided to steal each other's weapons, but stole them at the same time so it kinda evened out.

gilded mason Mar 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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lmao

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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sangheilie nah more like sanghelium

dusty prawn Mar 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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@ocean widget #general-chat

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Please listen to him.

ocean widget Mar 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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What

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Still nonsense posting, I see

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😔

dusty prawn Mar 17, 2021, 10:05 PM

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This is the library, general discussion is the living room. You're playing duck-duck-goose in the library and not the living room.

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 10:06 PM

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In halo they play moa moa mongoose

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Listen before you get banned

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:06 PM

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humble yacht In halo they play moa moa mongoose

On reach they did

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versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Noble Six tagged Emile in the second to last level.

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In all seriousness, which landmark would you visit on an Installation?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:12 PM

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the exit

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Oof

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I mean

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What landmarks are therr

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:14 PM

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the beam things

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i forgot what their called

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:14 PM

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I would probably visit the cartography rooms.

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beam rifle?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:14 PM

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activation room

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:14 PM

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versed helm beam rifle?

what about it?

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:15 PM

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steep ether the beam things

i was just responding to this

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that wasnt what you meant?

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:15 PM

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oh

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not the gun

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the relay things on the rings

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:15 PM

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ohhhhhh

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:15 PM

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yeah

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what else is there... the librar-

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:16 PM

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I could've swore those were anti air wraiths

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:16 PM

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nevermind

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no one would want to goe there

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:17 PM

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pulsar pivot I could've swore those were anti air wraiths

how

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those were introduced in halo 3

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halo ce has them and you can walk on them

versed helm Mar 17, 2021, 10:19 PM

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There are probably other landmarks to visit as their environments are quite diverse, lol.

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:19 PM

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yeah it depends on what ring your on

steep ether Mar 17, 2021, 10:20 PM

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steep ether halo ce has them and you can walk on them

these things

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fair hazel Mar 17, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Here's a better site: https://www.halopedia.org/

Halopedia

Halopedia is a comprehensive wiki and encyclopedia dedicated to the Halo video game series on Xbox, with over 13,490 articles.

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:21 PM

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steep ether how

Idk

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Be aware I only had played halo combat evolved during December of 2020

pulsar pivot Mar 17, 2021, 10:39 PM

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How many ships attacked reach

humble yacht Mar 17, 2021, 10:55 PM

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50x whatever number of ships attacked earth in h2

stable flower Mar 17, 2021, 11:05 PM

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I wish they explained Arby's absence in Tsavo Highway