lmao
#lore-and-universe
main hill
versed helm
Let's change the topic again before we receive bans.
main hill
yes
versed helm
Outline your sauce of choice to accompany a Moa burger.
main hill
Moa burger + Barbecue sauce = excellence
versed helm
Barbecue sauce is quite underrated/overlooked. This is an acceptable choice.
young mortar
I heard Americans and hate, I came as quickly as I could
But nah im messing, im yet to try the moa burger pringles
pulsar pivot
Navy seals your not wrong but why would anyone care if you didnt mention them, but nobody here cares
young mortar
In my experience, a ton of people care, they may not care on this server, but majority of Americans I've met they have cared. So sorry
opal birch
I'm American and I don't care. Mad respect for SAS
young mortar
And I respect that, I really do
opal birch
I'm more just baffled why you were raised to not like Americans
we're not all jerks, I swear
young mortar
My family have had a bad past with Americans and they didn't want me anywhere near you guys
Plus my family is extremely patriotic so we don't like most countries
main hill
IDK the ODSTs don't remind me of Navy SEALs, if they remind me of any American special forces they remind me of the US Army delta force
Mainly because of their missions conducted against the Insurrectionists
opal birch
ODSTs seem like the love child of multiple special operations units anyway
main hill
they are
young mortar
Agreed, I'm torn between the SAS or delta force for whichever the ODSTs are more related to
opal birch
Delta Force's structure is based off of SAS anyway
pulsar pivot
Yeah
young mortar
I know
pulsar pivot
The only stupid Americans are the political Fanatics but either way
main hill
If anything based on mission types, Spartan's remind me more of Navy SEALs
opal birch
I'm a political junkie but this server ain't the place to talk about it.
main hill
just on tactics and what they were used for
opal birch
Spartans remind me of JSOC
main hill
Thats a broad thing, JSOC is all of the US special forces
pulsar pivot
Spartans remind me of spec op soliders
opal birch
The units directly under them are Delta and DEVGRU
and they also seem to organize multi-service task forces
main hill
I still think based on missions and their branch, they are more like the Navy Seals
opal birch
Spartans separated from the Navy, that's one reason at least organization wise, that I compare them more to JSOC
pulsar pivot
Idk Navy Seals does make sense
main hill
They mainly work with the Navy and have navy ranks so IDK
pulsar pivot
Master cheif is a navy rank
Master chief petty officer is an enlisted rank in some navies. It is the ninth, and highest, enlisted rank in the United States Navy and United States Coast Guard, just above command senior chief petty officer.
opal birch
Spartan Branch kinda ditched Navy ranks
last time I checked
Also Toasty, command senior chief petty officer is just a senior chief.
the command bit is just a billet that some SCPOs get
carmine sleet
Spartan Branch doesn't use a ranking structure for those who are part of it
pulsar pivot
Thats..... ok I guess
opal birch
yes still a rank in that they are SCPOs, just it's not separate from SCPO
pulsar pivot
So they are one but they arent
opal birch
It's a billet so they just have some responsibilities that most SCPOs don't.
opal birch
It exists because there are some commands that don't rate MCPOs and they need someone to fill the Command MCPO role without being a MCPO.
pulsar pivot
Hmm
Does that mean that john could command soldiers like a captain or commander
Or a officer
opal birch
only enlisted personnel
pulsar pivot
Ok
opal birch
MCPOs are the senior enlisted guys in large enough commands
pulsar pivot
Ah makes sense
normal shard
So I just read that Sarah Palmer isn't officially ranked as a "Commander" and that it's just a title. So do we know what her official rank is?
humble yacht
her Commander title serves more as a role within the branch
normal shard
Ah, so her job, not rank I guess?
humble yacht
it serves as a way to appear singular and show solidarity to other branches of the UNSC
but within the spartan branch, Spartans understand that they should listen to other spartans with more experience
normal shard
Huh. An interesting way of operating. Fair enough. Thanks. 🙂
humble yacht
when Musa pitched the branch to HIGHCOM, he wanted to change how the UNSC treated spartans
he didn't want them looked at as just weapons anymore
normal shard
That confuses me a bit, because you'd think they'd want them to have ranks like all the other military personnel and not just all be "Spartans"
humble yacht
they aren't like all the other personnel
normal shard
That's true. It's unique at least. I just gotta get used to this idea.
main hill
I kinda think its BS that they seperated SIVs to entirely separate branch.
humble yacht
not just the SIVs
normal shard
That part makes sense to me, it's the execution that confused me a lot. Chimera at least cleared some of it up for me though.
humble yacht
the remaining SIIIs joined the Spartan Branch too
only a few SIIs like Blue Team stayed with the Navy
normal shard
Are all those technicians that help maintain their armor also part of the branch or are they just naval folks?
normal shard
Ah, see, I was hoping so.
humble yacht
I feel like Musa and Jun want as much autonomy as they can get
normal shard
Yeah, it'd certainly flesh out the branch if they are part of it.
I tried to look into it and so far I've only found one of those technicians that're named, and it doesn't state whether they're in the navy or spartan branch.
main hill
I feel like realistically the best weapon the covenant had was the needle rifle
thing would be an instant death unless you shot for the limbs, which would blow the limb off
and its velocity is much faster than most covenant weapons.
and with its full auto capability along with its range you arguably have a full auto sniper.
versed helm
All of the weapons have their appropriate applications. You wouldn't be able to damage the plating of a vehicle with that rifle, after all.
main hill
not necessarily, I mean you could probably make a needle rifle version of the talon of the lost needles and bam now you have a weapon thats good against light armored vehicles
just switch ammo types and bam you have fairly effective anti-vehicle weapon.
versed helm
I was diverting my focus onto the basic variants in the original trilogy. My apologies, lol.
On the topic of the Covenant's arsenal, I question the temperatures that are reached when plasma weapons overheat.
main hill
You'd probably have to wear welding gloves so your hands don't get completely burned to a crisp
Because I doubt the gun itself gets as hot as plasma, or else the gun would literally melt after overheating and Im sure the covenant have cooling system in their guns to make it so it doesn't get hot enough to melt the gun, but of course it'd still be extremely hot.
versed helm
The issued UNSC BDUs must be fairly advanced if an ODST is capable of overcharging his weapon.
main hill
Im sure they wear some special gloves or something
especially as late as when Halo 3 ODST takes place
versed helm
I was thinking of the additional cutscene for Halo 2.
main hill
still, that late in the war they had to have come up with a way for soldiers to withstand the overheating of plasma guns as Im pretty sure using covenant weapons was pretty common due to many scenarios where troops would have to resort to using covie weapons
versed helm
This channel is probably going to explode with popularity, a month after Halo Infinite's release, lol.
cobalt thunder
Maybe
I have a question about when in the timeline halo reach happened
Where was master chief in that time when halo reach took place?
cobalt thunder
not necessarily, I mean you could probably make a needle rifle version of the ta...
The needles doesn’t have to be able to destroy the warthog, just hit a week spot like for example popping the tires and causing it to roll and crash, or with a wraith maybe shooting into the engine and blowing it up
main hill
I have a question about when in the timeline halo reach happened
Halo Reach takes place before Halo CE
cobalt thunder
U know how in the halo 5 forge u can take inanimate vehicles and put other vehicles into them?
Can u do that in any other forges?
Or is that a new and exclusive thing to halo 5
young mortar
I'm glad my simple question about ODSTs and which special forces they best relate to, hours ago sparked such an interesting conversation
normal shard
Are you being sarcastic?
main hill
Why aren’t there more weapons the Covenant uses that use blamite
carmine sleet
Because neither Bungie nor 343i came up with any
normal shard
Because it didn't spark a conversation. Others did. All you did was ask a question and then rant about your hatred of Americans.
lol.
young mortar
I mean I didn't rant, I simply responded to people's questions about it
normal shard
Literally no one asked.
versed helm
versed helm
Why aren’t there more weapons the Covenant uses that use blamite
The Covenant didn't really have a reason to innovate. The faction could have easily won the war, if the Prophet of Truth didn't decide to conduct the Great Schism.
jagged stirrup
@cobalt thunder it’s kind of hard to explain. The game begins on July 23, only days after the Battle of Sigma Octanus IV (portrayed in the novel Fall of Reach in Mid-July). The covenant super carrier Long Night of Solace was destroyed in August 14, simultaneously the second covenant fleet to attack Reach arrive but only engaged in operations on the side of the planet that Eposz (the continent in which the entire game takes place). As of August 27, Chief and the other SPARTAN-IIs are at FLEETCOM headquarters on the other side of the planet, in preparation for Operation RED FLAG, totally in the dark that Reach has been under siege for over a month. On August 29, John meets Cortana and tests out his new Mark V armor set. This is the same day that Dr. Halsey lures NOBLE team to Sword base so they can bring another fragment of Cortana and her analysis of the forerunner artifact to the Pillar of Autumn. The following day (August 30), the Fleet of Particular Justice arrives in system and the events of the novel’s climax unfold.
normal shard
What does that even mean? You can literally scroll up to the conversation from early this morning and see that no one asked about his bias against Americans. He just started talking about it.
main hill
We were talking about the relation between ODSTs and real life special forces
normal shard
Yeah, I was not. I pointed out what he did after he asked his question, he responded to that by saying someone asked.
Anyway, enjoy defending the xenophobic people. Nothing new for this discord.:P
main hill
Xenophobic? That makes no sense.
young mortar
I pointed out what I said because it was my perspective on how I perceive people that usually are that, I wasn't saying anything bad I was simply stating what I've found out from talking to countless Americans
main hill
Like bro I live in America and I’m Cuban, he said nothing that was xenophobic
humble yacht
I think we are drifting away from the point of this channel
carmine sleet
So those Covenant ships... Pretty cool, right?
gilded mason
...Yes.
young mortar
Yes we are which is something I also pointed out hours ago from the start
main hill
So those Covenant ships... Pretty cool, right?
Stormcutter is coolest looking ship to me
carmine sleet
Didn't need to tag me
humble yacht
Covenant ships big dumb, too many hexagons
main hill
Lmao
gilded mason
ur a hexagon
young mortar
What's wrong with hexagons
humble yacht
Ask the infinite demo
carmine sleet
main hill
I kinda lowkey kinda wanna see a DDS class carrier
young mortar
Ok I'll just speak to a creation of humanity’s own construct
main hill
The ADP class escort feels kinda useless as a ship
I feel like literally any other covenant ship could fill it’s role 9,000 times better
It does have a cloaking device though which leads me to believe this would’ve been more useful if it was put into a role similar to the UNSC Prowler
versed helm
The interiors of Covenant ships look like as if they would be very cold to me.
jagged stirrup
@cobalt thunder August 30 contdThe Pillar of Autumn is deployed from the far side of the planet to execute RED FLAG before it’s too late, but is roped into the battle. Chief is sent with James and Linda to manually destroy navigation data aboard the docked UNSC vessel Circumference aboard Gamma station. While this occurs, Pillar of Autumn lands at Azod in Eposz to retrieve the Cortana fragment en route with NOBLE team. It’s unclear if Chief was aboard PoA when she landed on Reach or was aboard Gamma station and then got picked up after the Azod engagement.
main hill
The interiors of Covenant ships look like as if they would be very cold to me.
I feel that
jagged stirrup
What kind of ship was Ascendant Justice?
strange basalt
Does anyone know when the Helioskrill armor was created?
main hill
Looks like it’s feel like an room being air conditioned a lil too much
main hill
What kind of ship was Ascendant Justice?
A DDS class carrier
versed helm
Looks like it’s feel like an room being air conditioned a lil too much
All of those conductive composites for the rooms fuel that problem too.
jagged stirrup
When is that stated specifically? I have he original print of First Strike and it only vaguely mentions it as a “carrier”
main hill
DDS class carriers essentially hold a ton of fighters in em like Seraphs and Banshees
I’m talkin hundreds
main hill
When is that stated specifically? I have he original print of First Strike and i...
I looked it up on Halopedia
It said this though
John-117 noted that he "...hadn't seen anything like this on the Truth and Reconciliation," and that it was "armed like a ship of war, yet had the support staff of a refit vessel."[
jagged stirrup
Why do u like DDS carriers so much fren
main hill
I like Stormcutter and Heavy Destroyers a lot, I mainly just think the DDS class is pretty interesting and as far as I know not many of em are ever mentioned
I mainly like it cuz I like the idea of em using swarm tactics with seraphs on planets.
main hill
I like the idea of the CCS supercarrier a lot
Just don’t like that it’s essentially a massive CAS
Coulda done a different design for a ship so massive and terrifying
jagged stirrup
CCS is battlecruiser
CSO is what you mean
Long Night of Solace is a CSO
The T&R is a CCS
main hill
The CSO woulda been 10x better of a ship if it had a unique design
jagged stirrup
And NAVSPECWEP was butthurt that UNICOM’s SPECWAR basically blew up their ride
main hill
Oof
jagged stirrup
Not basically, actually lmao
RED FLAG may have been successfully executed if LNoS hadn’t been destroyed
versed helm
I love the titles for the Covenant's ships.
main hill
Yea
jagged stirrup
I tried imitating UNSC naming conventions for I guess what you could call a fanfic i barely started out of boredom when I was in highschool
UNSC has some weird naming conventions
versed helm
'In Amber Clad' is my favourite title for a UNSC ship.
versed helm
That is one of my favourite tracks from the franchise, lol.
gilded mason
👌
versed helm
I dislike how shortened it was in Halo 3.
jagged stirrup
I’m gonna be generic and say Pillar of Autumn is my favorite
main hill
Everybody gangsta till a UNSC ship gets named Mike Hunt
versed helm
'Long Night of Solace' would probably have to be my favourite title for a Covenant ship.
cobalt thunder
I feel like they should make planet destroying weapons on super carriers
Like the best way to win a war, drop out of slip space only to blow up their main base and boom u have the advantage
Catch em by surprise with a planet destroyer not much strategy although with a weapon like that u don’t need any
jagged stirrup
Well most of these planets have some sort of forerunner artifacts on them
limpid meadow
You gotta know where said planets are first
To find those planets, you'd have to send scouting parties, which could potentially alert any forces there to your plans to invade or something. They won't know what you're doing, but they'll know you're up to something.
cobalt thunder
With all the forerunner artifacts they’ve already got the blueprints and materials to make super weapons
limpid meadow
And then, you have to hope you aren't detected on the way in by slipspace probes, like what happened at Sigma Octanus IV
And then yeah, there's the issue of potential artifacts on the planet that the Covenant wouldn't want to destroy.
cobalt thunder
To find those planets, you'd have to send scouting parties, which could potentia...
So keep those scouts in the dark about the plan to raid the base so if they get interrogated alive they don’t have any information to give
limpid meadow
And on the human side of things, during the war, slipspace navigation was so inaccurate that dropping by to deliver a NOVA bomb wouldn't be a great strategy.
limpid meadow
So keep those scouts in the dark about the plan to raid the base so if they get ...
The issue isn't whether your enemy knows specifically what you're planning, only that you're planning something.
After a couple planets, the UNSC would get wise to the Covenant's methods and change their strategy.
cedar surge
Why would you destroy a perfectly good planet
limpid meadow
That too
gilded mason
To be a jerk
cedar surge
Habitable planets are as rare as it is
Why wouldn't you just capture it and harvest it for recources
cobalt thunder
Why would you destroy a perfectly good planet
Destroy the planet not because u don’t like the planet but because u don’t like the military on it
limpid meadow
Then just glass it
cobalt thunder
Actually bio warfare might be even more deadly
cedar surge
That is more reasonable,yes
limpid meadow
It would be
cobalt thunder
Unleash a deadly virus on the planet by sending a soldier in a small aircraft to infiltrate the planet
limpid meadow
But ultimately, the Covenant do things the way they do to humiliate their enemies.
That's why there are planetary invasions at all.
cedar surge
Also because of mac generators
And forerunner artifacts
But if neither your out of luck
gilded mason
Yup
cobalt thunder
I wonder why the covenant haven’t tested anything like a Spartan program was to genetically modify their military
cedar surge
Luckily humanity is on a gold mine of forerunner artifacts
brittle spear
What is the Covenants means of 'destroying' a planet outside of glassing with plasma?
cedar surge
Because the covenant doesn't need too
cedar surge
What is the Covenants means of 'destroying' a planet outside of glassing with pl...
That's basically it
cobalt thunder
Well if they won’t blow up planets they need better infantry and ground vehicles
cedar surge
The covenant doesn't need a super soldier program
cobalt thunder
The unsc used Spartans as they’re advantage
cedar surge
If they need elite troops they call on elites,brutes,or prelates
cobalt thunder
I haven’t really seen the covenant yet that tho
cedar surge
And prelates are augmented prophets
brittle spear
I suppose if they could make an antimatter charge large enough
cobalt thunder
Maybe if they use a virus to wipe out all life and then blast the planet with the cure
So all life on the planet is cleared out but it’s still livable
Covenant have an easy win boom
gilded mason
Depends on what you mean by livable
cobalt thunder
U can live on the planet plants r alive but not people
gilded mason
Since without life on it, it's gonna basically destroy breathable atmosphere
cobalt thunder
So then u use the cure u made before unleashing the virus to make it safe again so ur forces can inhabit and take their old base filled with dead bodies
cedar surge
Destroying entire planets is a pretty dumb thong to do anyway
gilded mason
Yeah
brittle spear
like firing the Halo array which destroys only neural structure?
cedar surge
Yes
cobalt thunder
They’ve gotta have some way to clear out life easy without destroying the planet then
cedar surge
If you really need to kill all life on the planet just destroy the crust
Not the planet
gilded mason
Though that would still get into the issue of "The planet might still exist, but you can't really live on it"
(Unless you live in enclosed habitats on it)
cobalt thunder
When I mean destroy life I mean people and animals but not the plants since that’s kindve what makes it livable plants r important
cedar surge
Though that would still get into the issue of "The planet might still exist, but...
At least the planet is still there to terraform
Like draco 3
gilded mason
How advanced is UNSC/Covie terraform tech, anyway?
limpid meadow
If you just kill off all native life though, that's going to result in ecological disaster. Not gonna be pretty.
cedar surge
Draco 3 was a lava world before getting colonized iirc
cobalt thunder
U would think they have cloning technology by now if they have all that other stuff
cedar surge
The unsc threw ice at it till it cooled down
cedar surge
U would think they have cloning technology by now if they have all that other st...
They do have clones
cobalt thunder
If they did they should find a strong elite like the arbiter and clone him a billion times for an army
cedar surge
That would be a terrible army
cobalt thunder
Why lol
cedar surge
One because clones in halo because they die really fast
Like in a single year
2 since that's very easy to sabotage
cobalt thunder
The flash clones yes but I’m talking actually clones that live as long as a normal being
cedar surge
You just need to make a genetic disease for that elite
limpid meadow
^^^
gilded mason
Foxdie
cobalt thunder
With all the Spartans didn’t they kindve do that metal insertion like with wolverine?
limpid meadow
This actually happened with Bananas
A single disease wiped out and entire species of banana
And the bananas we have now (which are again at risk, if I recall) are different from the bananas that were sold decades ago.
In fact, if I recall correctly, the artificial banana flavoring that's common in sweets was based on said original banana
cedar surge
With all the Spartans didn’t they kindve do that metal insertion like with wolve...
You mean inserting needles?
Yea they did that in Carter's reach trailer
versed helm
You just need to make a genetic disease for that elite
You could serve them a regular meal consisting of rice.
cedar surge
cobalt thunder
That’s one strange looking emoji 🤔
What’s Sergeant forges origin?
I just know he died in halo wars destroying a shield world
gilded mason
By origin, do you mean where he first appeared? If so, Halo Wars.
cedar surge
He has a daughter
cobalt thunder
How he began like from birth to death
Chiefs would be abducted as 6 year old then Spartan program
I get the feeling if he hadn’t died he would’ve been with the professor
From in the campaign
gilded mason
He had a wife, so...
cobalt thunder
... maybe not
paper coyote
hi gamers
versed helm
Hello there.
jagged stirrup
GENERAL KENOBI
versed helm
pulsar pivot
What happened to the Spartans parents
gilded mason
Different things
faint grail
^
gilded mason
There's no one "thing" that uniformly happened to all of them
cobalt thunder
Spartans were orphans
gilded mason
SIIIs were orphans
cobalt thunder
At least the Spartan ll’s
gilded mason
SIIs did not have to be orphans
cobalt thunder
Lol the 6 year old master chief in the animated movie playing king of the hill and beating the crap outve a few other kids
Insane what 6 year olds in the 26th century do
cobalt thunder
Sooo buck the odst is also buck the Spartan??
gilded mason
Yes.
cobalt thunder
I saw in the description of halo reach buck voice it said if he was any better he’d be a Spartan
Meaning him without augmentations can take on a Spartan?
gilded mason
No
cobalt thunder
Well if he could that would be crazy
If he could that would mean he should be better then the chief
Anyways what’s bucks story how’s he get to be a Spartan? Thought they only augmented children during puberty
versed helm
Meaning him without augmentations can take on a Spartan?
No, that description was simply commenting on his prowess.
versed helm
Anyways what’s bucks story how’s he get to be a Spartan? Thought they only augme...
He was recruited into the Spartan IV Program by Jun.
gilded mason
Anyways what’s bucks story how’s he get to be a Spartan? Thought they only augme...
The whole thing with SIVs is that they can be augmented as adults
cobalt thunder
So sad the final mission of reach
versed helm
Buck did need some persuading from Veronica to accept the offer, though.
cobalt thunder
Literally unbeatable noble six always dies
gilded mason
Everyone is literally unbeatable until they die
cobalt thunder
No the mission not the Spartan
jagged stirrup
Buck is a SPARTAN-IV
cobalt thunder
The mission lone wolf is unbeatable and no matter what noble six dies
Bucks probably one of the best Spartans already
versed helm
Is there a reason for why Rtas' eyes are green in H2A's campaign?
gilded mason
To match H2C
versed helm
I honestly prefer the green eyes.
cobalt thunder
Hey I have a question about the forge maps
gilded mason
Green eyes are much nicer than the standard and plain yellow
gilded mason
That does not have to do with lore.
versed helm
Green eyes are much nicer than the standard and plain yellow
They add a layer of distinction between the units, too.
cobalt thunder
Can u do that in any other forges
versed helm
I think it would be wise to ask that question in this channel: #471727528847867904.
gilded mason
Originally, it was because the devs just wanted to non-canonically give them shields for gameplay reasons
gilded mason
But then for some weird reason, 343 canonized it as prototype energy shielding
jagged stirrup
There’s a “BUT AKSHUYALLY”
versed helm
I think they were field-testing the technology.
gilded mason
Even though that gets scrapped and abandoned anyway
Since later shielding comes from jackals about 20 years later
jagged stirrup
Dumb retcon IMO
stable flower
Just like the SAW being retconned as an Insurrection-era gun when they already have the M247
versed helm
Can you adjust the colours of a Phantom on a whim?
cobalt thunder
I think the perfect squad of infantry u could have lots of would be one Spartan and maybe 10 odst
For a highly skilled squad where there are lots of rather then a squad of 4 Spartan cause there would be too few of those
That way u can have a skilled Spartan to help if say the warthog gets flipped and the odst would normally die, the Spartan flips the warthog and the odst can still fight
Cause the Spartan may have equal marksman capabilities to odst so they would need a Spartans strength and knowledge for the extra things making the squad much better by a long shot
unique rune
If anything you want to keep your Spartans on one team and ODSTs in another.
Ignoring the history of animosity between the two, you're mostly just kinda shooting your Spartan in the foot because now they have to slow themselves to the pace of unaugmented humans.
Either that or you're exhausting the ODSTs by making them keep up with a Spartan.
steep ether
two examples are the baby sitter from halo legends and halo 2 level delta halo
stable flower
Military organization isn’t an RTS
Yeah, you don't just plop infantrymen and special forces together like that.
hazy summit
Truth got Trolololoed
117 got trolololoed as a child
The entire lore of halo is a big trololo
main hill
One of the parents of the original SIIs became a Insurrectionist after unknowingly figuring out the entirety of the SII project
Naomi’s father
limpid meadow
He didn't figure out the S-II program, just that his kid was kidnapped by the government for unknown reasons. Still quite the accomplishment, and he wasn't alone. Arthur-079's father, Andrew Remo, also figured out that something was amiss.
main hill
Oh wait yeah your right
He thinks Naomi’s dead for the most part and that ONI killed her
pulsar pivot
Oof
Imagine if truth didnt turn into a fanatic
Actually he was always a fanatic
He turned into a fanfic
A fandom
A fan
Mainly a fanatic
terse lava
....huh
main hill
I’m gonna stop you right there
pulsar pivot
Why does mercy sound like that one guy in any rpg
terse lava
One guy?
pulsar pivot
The wizard guy who over exaggerated everything
jagged stirrup
He’s a boomer
terse lava
Guess Regret is the Zoomer then
narrow gulch
So anyone gonna mention what ever happened to Offensive Bias when he defeated Mendicant Bias?
ocean ibex
Nobody knows, since his sole purpose was to defeat mendicant, he serves no purpose anymore, so I’m guessing he decommissioned himself
humble yacht
That would make sense
gentle ridge
What range do covenant ships fight at
What’s the max range
Do we have any idea how big the covenant military is?
gilded mason
Several thousand systems
gentle ridge
Based on?
gilded mason
Warfleet
humble yacht
I mean one human planet has 7 billions people right now
gentle ridge
Mind showing me ostral
humble yacht
Even hundreds of planets could add up to trillions
gentle ridge
I’ve been wanting to read warfleet
gilded mason
All right, one moment
gentle ridge
I think I saw a source that said Covenant has hundreds of billions
THE COVENANT
After the penning of the Writ of Union in 852 BCE, what was simply a radical offshoot of the San’Shyuum religion ultimately became a political and military alliance with the Sangheili. This Covenant, as it was called, would eventually incorporate several species from across the Orion Arm into a powerful, unified empire stretching across hundreds of worlds and billions of individuals.
Forgot the source
gentle ridge
Thank you
Very interesting
Might not necessarily be inhabited worlds for the most part though
Still cool
Does it talk about fleet sizes at all?
gilded mason
Don't remember
gentle ridge
THE COVENANT
After the penning of the Writ of Union in 852 BCE, what was simply ...
Not even hundreds of billions
terse lava
Ironically it doesn't mention how large the Covenant navy was, but other novels give us hints. At 2525, only months into the war, Fleetmaster Nizat, who was charged with wiping out humanity, comments the defense fleet of High Charity was around 1000+ warships. Later in the novel, Oblivion, Nizat is returning to High Charity. He sees the Hierarchs have gathered thousands of ships(seperatenfrom the defense fleet) to send against humanity.
100 of them are CAS carriers, with 20 even larger. In First Strike, a fleet of 500 was wiped out by Spartans 2. Admiral Cole, earlier in the war, took out a fleet of around 200 warships via causing a star to go nova.
ocean ibex
Wasn’t the entire covenant navy around like 10,000 ships?
ocean ibex
I’d say it’s the most reasonable number, since the covenant can lose hundreds of ships with no real consequences
terse lava
I do find that rather amusing really. Warfleet tells us the Forerunnera had billions of ships traveling the galaxy. The Reach logs implied the UNSC had 2000 or so ships. Yet never any concrete number for the Covenant
pulsar pivot
All we know is they were big
young mortar
They are 👉thissssss👈 big
mortal temple
i just finished halo reach but i never saw jun die so what happened to him?
young mortar
He split off from the rest of the team when halsey gave cortana to noble 6, and he got on the same pelican as halsey did ensuring she was safe
mortal temple
did he survive or did he die like the rest of noble?
mortal temple
ok thanks
young mortar
No problem
versed helm
I don't think that Jun has complete control over the program, Dr Lance.
From what I am able to recall, he basically acted as an advisor for the program itself.
I’m back
versed helm
I don't think that Jun has complete control over the program, Dr Lance.
What does he even do
Consultation?
Well, he did introduce the program to potential candidates.
Why does all he do involve talking to people
Have you not read New Blood?
I... I miss the old Halo 5 “leak” tbh
Yeah I read it
Anyway, the Halo 5 Leak, this was pre-locke. Jun was tasked to hunt down Master Chief and he had all these forerunner cybernetics
And he turned into a psycho
How awesome is thay
That
But now he’s a car salesman
gentle ridge
What’s the longest range unsc and covenant ships have fought at
Anyone know what the general durability of ships is? What’s the yield of a typical weapon per ship class
Best range I’ve seen is hundreds of km
And for power, I’ve seen sub kiloton to kiloton mac rounds
versed helm
What’s the longest range unsc and covenant ships have fought at
I think Covenant fire in the hundreds of thousands of kilometers
Maybe one hundred thousand
CCS-class battlecruisers can take nukes hat rival our most powerful today, albeit with significant damage. CSO, probably in the gigatons (explosions large enough to see from orbit)
versed helm
And for power, I’ve seen sub kiloton to kiloton mac rounds
Depends what you define as a “MAC round”. That’s anywhere from 1.1 Gigajoules, to..
Yeesh, like several teratons? For the Infinity
gentle ridge
I think Covenant fire in the hundreds of thousands of kilometers
Thank you. What’s that from?
versed helm
I think it’s from the first novel that came out lol
But I can’t be sure. One of the Nylund books
If I were to guess
gentle ridge
CCS-class battlecruisers can take nukes hat rival our most powerful today, albei...
I’ll admit despite loving the covenant ships the names and types escape me
gentle ridge
Depends what you define as a “MAC round”. That’s anywhere from 1.1 Gigajoules, t...
Mainly interested in the ship board ones. But anything from supermacs to orbital macs are cool. Just please distinguish them if you don’t mind.
Like a cruiser isn’t gonna be the same to a frigate and I want to know the difference
I’d like to know how big the unsc and covenant fleet is. Best estimate I’ve seen for covenant is like ten thousand plus ships
versed helm
There was that one scene in Halo 2 which implied at least a thousand or so Carriers
gentle ridge
I seem to recall the halo book where they get mjolnir has a pretty pathetic speed figure for the Mac rounds
gentle ridge
Sounds about right
I was thinking like mach 50 ish
And on that subject, any idea what acceleration on ships are?
Ftl too. iirc their ftl is like 3ly a day
Hold on
versed helm
I don’t think the universe is careful enough for that sense of scale
gentle ridge
Covenant ships can do 1300 ish light years a day
versed helm
I just look at the original stats described since they’re typically the most grounded
gentle ridge
Unsc significantly less
versed helm
Yeah I remember that. I can’t remember UNSC sublight, but even during Bungie era it was about a tenth lightspeed or something crazy
gentle ridge
I’d like to see it if you don’t mind
versed helm
Well, whenever it was described by the devs
gentle ridge
About one of the few advantages unsc has against this other sci fi I’m comparing it to
Someone told me they accelerate at hundreds of Gs for unsc
versed helm
2.1 lightyears a day, but they also said with sublight that they could reach Pluto within.. More or less the same time period
versed helm
I believe so. If I remember right, it was around a third lightspeed but probably a tenth to be more generous
gentle ridge
Dev said this?
versed helm
Or as fast as 2.1 ly a day means for speed
That’s their FTL
gentle ridge
Right
gentle ridge
Interesting
versed helm
What Bungie used to reference all games
versed helm
..Probably less than the canon, given the amount of planets they now have
gentle ridge
Specifically covenant war
versed helm
Old Halo humanity only inhabited 17 or so worlds
gentle ridge
Really not interested in post war
versed helm
Maybe a thousand in total, I don’t know
I could be way underestimating though
Another detail I miss from the old days was how potent Elites were
gentle ridge
Yeah
versed helm
Grr
I forgot about the censor
Anyway, I always get hyped watching old clips of Staten saying “a single Elite can decimate a whole squad of marines”. Like, holy hell let’s go baby I’m ready for this
Now they get shot twice by storm rifle and bye-bye
gentle ridge
What did you say?
versed helm
Web probably included profanity in his message.
main hill
bro Ive been muted like 3 times for profanity lmao
gentle ridge
Hero
Im comparing the unsc and covenant to the protectorate of Mars
To me the advantages I see for halo are Fleet size, troop count, population, territory size, acceleration in real space, fighters and that the covenant has shields.
Nova bomb doesn’t hurt too
Just about every other metric the protectorate has halo beat
Also supermacs
versed helm
Im comparing the unsc and covenant to the protectorate of Mars
The what of what?
gentle ridge
The hegemony of humanity in starship’s mage
A magic kingdom essentially
Basically what lol
@cedar surge
gentle ridge
I don’t know what you mean
cedar surge
To me the advantages I see for halo are Fleet size, troop count, population, ter...
this
gentle ridge
Nah
Halo will never crack the Sol system
Also on a per ship basis, each and every protectorate ship is packing gigaton missiles that can shoot from several light seconds away. Every ship has several mages who can interface with the ship, and can tear ships that take gigaton missiles apart like they’re butter.
I can outline its weaknesses though.
versed helm
I wouldn’t condone breaking the setting just so it can tussle up with some irrelevant franchise lmao
main hill
whats the protectorate
gentle ridge
No need to be like that
versed helm
Some gang or something
cedar surge
whats the protectorate
A protectorate is a state that is controlled and protected by another sovereign state. It is a dependent territory that has been granted local autonomy over most internal affairs while still recognizing the suzerainty of a more powerful sovereign state without being its direct possession.
gentle ridge
Starship’s mage
main hill
cool concept
gentle ridge
What does that mean
versed helm
Well some people get caught up in Vs with other franchises that they aren’t satisfied with where they are in the setting, claiming they’re not powerful enough
And then it gets to the point where characters are 10 times more OP than they were before, and it’s still unsatisfying
main hill
what kind of music do you think people in the halo universe listen to
versed helm
Occasionally Old stuff
gentle ridge
I have no idea what you mean
main hill
I bet the soundtrack of halo is the music thats actually playing in the warthog
versed helm
Alright, I’m just saying it happens
versed helm
Nerds getting competitive
versed helm
Chief’s playlist is really good
humble yacht
The zep isn’t metal, lol
versed helm
Chief’s more an unplugged orchestral type of guy, occasionally synth
versed helm
She listens to irrelevant boring music because she’s an irrelevant boring person
humble yacht
She’s not emo, she’s just crazy
gentle ridge
Didn’t realise halo Mars is also a protectorate lol
versed helm
It is?
main hill
lol all UNSC colonies basically are
cedar surge
halopedia?
main hill
yeah, they don't have their own militaries so they rely on the protection of the UNSC
gentle ridge
Yeah
cedar surge
yeah, they don't have their own militaries so they rely on the protection of the...
some of them have their own militia
gentle ridge
Would recommend starships mags if you have the kindle unlimited subscription
cedar surge
like harvest
cedar surge
not for long
gentle ridge
Think protectorate has about 11 million soldiers
Ish
Maybe I’m off by an order of magnitude
main hill
there's also that one planet in Envoy that completely separated from the UEG
humble yacht
I doubt the guardian that shows up at reach is going to kill anyone
versed helm
Very high I was gonna say
gentle ridge
The protectorate worlds have their own militaries
humble yacht
Not after the infinity left
versed helm
11 million? For one planet, jeez
gentle ridge
Nah that’s the entire royal Martian navy
cedar surge
11 million? For one planet, jeez
reach alone had 300 million
gentle ridge
Protectorate guard is 10 million I think
But then you have the member worlds and their pdfs
Protectorate is roughly a hundred worlds or so
I can look when I get home
opal birch
The US in WW2 had 16 million at it's peak strength
gentle ridge
reach alone had 300 million
Military?
main hill
Yeah the UNSC is pretty huge in terms of personnel.
versed helm
reach alone had 300 million
But Reach was huge! Mars colony would have nowhere near the manpower, naturally
cedar surge
385,421,100 available military manpower
gentle ridge
What’s the total pre war population
34 billion or so right?
I know one figure exists that says trillions
main hill
you know I just realized, we've never actually seen a UNSC invasion force cuz their always the underdog.
gentle ridge
Unsc scanners aren’t affected by the light speed barrier correct?
Like visual scanners.
The protectorate is
cedar surge
it says on halopedia 23 billion people died
versed helm
you know I just realized, we've never actually seen a UNSC invasion force cuz th...
That doesn’t sound very much like a UNSC thing to do, tbh
gentle ridge
it says on halopedia 23 billion people died
I feel like the novels said humanity was 34 ish billion
Which actually may be less than the protectorate
Less worlds more population for the protectorate
main hill
That doesn’t sound very much like a UNSC thing to do, tbh
I mean, it definitely is they just haven't had the opportunity.
gentle ridge
Presumably most humans died though
Right
I will check quickly what the protectorate pop is
versed helm
Well, now with the Infinity, of course they would have one. I’m just saying before Halo 4, it probably never would have happened @main hill
main hill
I mean its stated they were at the brink of extinction right?
cedar surge
so the unsc might have 1 billion in man power
main hill
Well, now with the Infinity, of course they would have one. I’m just saying befo...
I mean honestly if anything before Halo 4 invading planets would've been right up the UNSC's ally. They had more ships and manpower. Im talking in general not just invading the covenant.
versed helm
But would they have the.. disposition, to be so offensive in their strategies?
main hill
Their whole premise was built on colonizing, they definitely had strategies toward invading people if they needed too.
versed helm
Maybe, I mean probably ONI would have made some secret invasion fleet but I doubt the regular UNSC.. at least from my impression of them
main hill
They also had to keep colonies in check especially during the rise of the insurrectionists.
cedar surge
Maybe, I mean probably ONI would have made some secret invasion fleet but I doub...
oh yes the unsc would absolutley invade
as long as this isn't crippled unsc
gentle ridge
So in actual fact
versed helm
What’s crippled UNSC
cedar surge
post HCW unsc
gentle ridge
The protectorate is 480-600 million total
80-100 million for the Martian navy.
400-500 million militia
main hill
Thats why I said if anything before halo 4 the UNSC would've been more capable of invading planets
gentle ridge
Peanuts still
versed helm
post HCW unsc
i feel like they would be more invasion-inclined, by their general.. vibe
main hill
before the HCW they were in a phase similar to manifest destiny.
versed helm
Newer canon Humans and forerunners are very egotistical
main hill
they definitely wouldn't have been afraid to invade people
versed helm
I thought the premise for the Insurrectionists was pretty weak, tbh. I never got their deal beyond just “terrorists”
gentle ridge
I have numbers on what a full protectorate volley is
versed helm
I did like Collateral Damage for that snippet of light shedding on why they don’t like UNSC, but still
Eh
main hill
I thought the premise for the Insurrectionists was pretty weak, tbh. I never got...
They had ships and nukes, they were small but far from not being a pretty big threat.
versed helm
I mean like, why did they want to fight against the unsc?
gentle ridge
versed helm
The colonisation-oriented version
main hill
They wanted to be independent from the UEG because the further out colonies were the less the UEG really cared about em
gentle ridge
main hill
something like that
gentle ridge
400 gigatons per salvo
cedar surge
Unsc infinity should probably gut the protectorate
it fires at a quater of the speed of light
gentle ridge
Dreadnought at 100 million tons is the biggest ship
gentle ridge
it fires at a quater of the speed of light
Thought it was .5?
cedar surge
SoR says 25 percent
gentle ridge
What’s Sor?
cedar surge
shadows of reach
gentle ridge
Mind posting it?
versed helm
They wanted to be independent from the UEG because the further out colonies were...
Then what’s the problem?
gentle ridge
Still very powerful though less so
cedar surge
cedar surge
Then what’s the problem?
the ueg was really bad at some points
gentle ridge
Where does it say it?
versed helm
“we want independence from your tyranny!.. that you so rarely enforce or police over here anyway because you don’t care”
versed helm
Yeah it sounds a little tact-on
main hill
Then what’s the problem?
to give you an idea the Insurrectionists were like the IRA but with nukes
and warships
opal birch
the outer colonies are similarish to the Belt in The Expanse
versed helm
like nuking a entire colony into destruction because it was revolting
This kind of stuff just annoys me. I mean, I dunno.. just so not what I felt from playing the games
Like I would like to see a reference point for where that comes from
cedar surge
that's because thats the unsc at its best
fighting aliens
with no innies in sight
plus
opal birch
The Innies aren't really featured in the games
cedar surge
its an entire organization spanning hundreds of millions to a billion people
versed helm
Maybe, I suppose that could work but I’m not sure
cedar surge
its not going to be completley evil or totally good
versed helm
True.. But I’d have liked to imagine Halo’s humanity had matured a little in that department
At least a little
main hill
War? war never changes.
versed helm
mhm. As a civilisation, less chaotic, more refined in overall goals
cedar surge
don't think thats how it works
humans will be humans
doesn't matter if its a few years from now or 500
versed helm
No way, and that’s why I loved the Bungie Forerunners being humans. They were like a cryptically familiar mask to see the past and future of humanity from — what we could become.
Which was contrasted with the absolute extreme of the flood
main hill
The forerunners were never humans.
versed helm
They were heavily implied to be, before Cryptum
cedar surge
unless you want humanity to be a hivemind
or any species for that matter
they won't act the all same
versed helm
You can be collective and individual at the same time
cedar surge
ah yes
main hill
idk man the Drones were jchillin
cedar surge
like how all elites are
main hill
lmao
cedar surge
"honorable"
versed helm
Well all species carry a certain temperament to themselves that is to be expected
Humans have a lot of said personalities to choose from, which creates a lot of chaos and conflict
But that, theoretically, would straighten itself out eventually
versed helm
i don't think you get to choose your personality
I’d say that’s more a paradox
cedar surge
the aliens are also people
versed helm
Well, they don’t seem to be as chaotic in their emotional variety
cedar surge
actually they do
like how atriox didn't believe in the great journey and rebelled
or the heretic leader who also rebelled
versed helm
That’s among other species
versed helm
That’s relationships with Elites, San’Shyuum, Jiralhanae. The war dynamic
versed helm
you say they don't seem to be chaotic
By themselves, in relation to others of their species
cedar surge
@versed helm https://www.halopedia.org/Blooding_Years
for the brutes
"While commonly regarded as a savage species, Jiralhanae proved intelligent enough to achieve Tier 4 status. However, their warlike nature inevitably led them into conflict, and eventually the various Jiralhanae master-packs — belonging into either of the Jiralhanae's two main social divisions (the Rh'tol and Vheiloth skeins) fell into a massive war known as the First Immolation.[2] This mechanized war of attrition lasted a decade and eventually led to the use of nuclear weapons that devastated Doisac.[14] The First Immolation and the nuclear holocaust that followed nearly led to species self-extinction and caused the collapse of Jiralhanae society; by 2492 CE, the species had just rediscovered radio and rocketry."
sounds familiar?
versed helm
I never meant that didn’t meant they can’t disagree. Especially a post-long history between influence of others such as the Prophets
Well Brutes are just monkeys
They’re closer to us, so that’s more expected of them to be chaotic like a human or other primate
Something about primates makes them so confused
versed helm
I don't see the incentive behind assisting Atriox as an Elite, because his subordinates mistreat them.
opal birch
The Elites also fought against one another after the Covenant fractured
opal birch
I know
cedar surge
talking to web
main hill
the Grunts and the Jackals are living relatively peacefully. Mainly because not a lot of em had a super strong belief in the great journey and weren't as agressive as Brutes
vivid pelican
my life goal is to get an ODST I took a screenshot of canon
versed helm
https://www.halopedia.org/Clan_Battles_of_Sanghelios
Their belief systems overall, still seem to be more agreeable on many terms than ours. I mean Humans can’t be bested in that category, it’s bloody insane how wildly different of point of views we get in comparison.
For example, most Sangheili are agreeably warlike in nature. They all prefer desert-like, rocky environments, they all value family and honor.
Humans, well.. most can’t agree on war as a concept, some like hot, some prefer cold, some like it in the middle, wet, some debate over what family is, some don’t care about honor
You see what I mean?
main hill
I like how the Jackals had gladatorial combat
versed helm
Me too, that’s lit
pulsar pivot
I still dont know what he is trying to prove
main hill
like thats why their gauntlet shields were created
versed helm
I still dont know what he is trying to prove
All you say is pog
pulsar pivot
Yo they had gladiator
cedar surge
yea
pulsar pivot
Wdym
versed helm
I don't recall any instances where a Sangheili actively stated their preferred type of environment.
cedar surge
jackal lore is pretty cool
gentle ridge
to give you an idea the Insurrectionists were like the IRA but with nukes
My ancestor
main hill
The jackals are awesome
cedar surge
yea thats just where they came from
pulsar pivot
Jackals are awesome
main hill
Matriarchal space pirates that had gladatorial combat to keep united
pulsar pivot
Favorite species: no
Close second: ye
pulsar pivot
Yeah
versed helm
Lol
gentle ridge
Shaking ones own head
pulsar pivot
Some odd reason it must be
main hill
Ive been muted so many times because of swearing
gentle ridge
Listen here bud
pulsar pivot
Crap
gentle ridge
Christ is king
versed helm
Hell
pulsar pivot
Yeah that works now
main hill
I said the s3x word and they gave me a warning
gentle ridge
Lol
versed helm
Ive been muted so many times because of swearing
I think that has happened to the majority of this server's members.
gentle ridge
How old they think we are
pulsar pivot
Like 10 probably
cedar surge
there are kids on the server
main hill
they said its cuz theres kids in this server but I doubt it
gentle ridge
Ok but halo has mature themes so what are they doing here
main hill
Ive never met a halo fan below the age of 12.
pulsar pivot
But be aware that if they play halo they are bound to hear curse words
gentle ridge
Well I was five when I played halo one
cedar surge
Ive never met a halo fan below the age of 12.
because you never go outside
gentle ridge
No chill
pulsar pivot
I've been playing halo since was 6
main hill
I've been playing halo since was 6
same
versed helm
Ive never met a halo fan below the age of 12.
I once was.. wait, yeah. I haven’t seen any either! What’s happened to the squeakers!????
gentle ridge
Dr Lance is like I know many children who play halo
main hill
because you never go outside
wow you gotta do me like that.
versed helm
Dr Lance is like I know many children who play halo
LMAO
pulsar pivot
Oof
cedar surge
you set yourself up for it
versed helm
I once was.. wait, yeah. I haven’t seen any either! What’s happened to the squea...
They have all matured.
That’s just sad
gentle ridge
Call me roast master millionaire
versed helm
because you never go outside
Ngl, this was a very risky comeback
versed helm
To be honest the more I ranted about the Insurrectionists, the more I started getting interested in them
gentle ridge
You would just play a couple matchmaking games
Then invite your entire recent players to a custom game
versed helm
Yeah they’re gone now pal
gentle ridge
Fat man on gas chambers
main hill
Bruh I used to be all up in clans. it was kinda cringe.
Clans should be considered cults lmao.
versed helm
Clans should be considered cults lmao.
They are
I never understood the appeal behind joining clans, lol.
gentle ridge
MESAGE TO ALL FRIENDS AND RECENT PLAYERS
gentle ridge
EPIC HALO CUSTOM GAMES
main hill
I got into so much beef when I was like 11 and kept clan hoppin n stuff
gentle ridge
Mate custom games will always be the best multiplayer experience I ever had
You met so many dudes
versed helm
I got into so much beef when I was like 11 and kept clan hoppin n stuff
That’s hilarious
You behaved like every other user on Xbox Live.
gentle ridge
My German friend who’s brother almost set the house on fire because he put beans in the microwave
My friend from Compton who I’m sure was in a gang of some sort
The boys
main hill
There was some cool people I met in clans tho ngl.
versed helm
Oh no Awesome’s joined the weebly jeebly’s instead of the dmr snipes
versed helm
I would join a clan called the weebly jeebly’s in an instant
Those are some confident folks
They are not insecure in the least
Why did they force you to perform all of these really useless "exercises"?
main hill
I made a clan called the cracker jacks at some point
main hill
idk why I just felt like it
versed helm
I made a clan called the cracker jacks at some point
That’s more socially acceptable
main hill
I remember the mando clans and warhammer clans
versed helm
I did form a small clan with a group of friends on Halo 2. We never hosted those types of strange sessions, though.
versed helm
You would never be able to assume the name of my clan.
Ew I can imagine a warhammer clan
Yikes
full citrus
clans do crouch laps and then proceed to get destroyed in matchmaking lol
main hill
because all the insurrectionists clans I came across based themselves off the insurrectionists from RvB Im pretty sure.
versed helm
I just did that by myself @full citrus
Finding multiplayer matches is the best form of practice and "training", lol.
main hill
**You would never be able to assume the name of my clan.**
what was it called
versed helm
It was literally called, "The Dino Clan", lmao.
main hill
nice
I feel like Covenant clans were the most cult like
they wanted you to believe the great journey
versed helm
People would attack us for playing as the Elites.
main hill
and that their leader was a god n stuff
main hill
People would attack us for playing as the Elites.
thats not fun
versed helm
No they’re mad because they’re taller than them
gentle ridge
they wanted you to believe the great journey
Based ngl
versed helm
😔 based
main hill
After a certain point people forget that people play elites just cuz they can and not cus they in a clan
versed helm
I was playing as an Elite beforehand.
Yeah I completely forget that I can play as a Lizard in the games
It’s a nice realisation
terse lava
Same, playing as a human is boring
terse lava
Same
versed helm
But I would like it if they made shorter Elites
I would love to play as an Elite in Firefight.
main hill
Playing an elite in reach was fun cuz they had cool armor
versed helm
But I would like it if they made shorter Elites
No thanks.
versed helm
I would love to play as an Elite in Firefight.
...that’s fire
terse lava
That would be a nice touch, allow you to choose like h5 campaign
versed helm
**No thanks.**
Ya
Smolites
Halo CE elites were basically Chief’s height
I prefer seeing tall Elites, lol.
terse lava
Yeah
main hill
People on Xbox 360 were a different breed I swear
versed helm
I don’t like playing as them tho
undone plume
lol elites are annoying but fun to kill
cedar surge
bigger hitbox?
versed helm
Giant lanky fools
;-;
You have just summarised my very existence.
Yeah the hitbox is annoying, but they’re just slow
versed helm
You have just summarised my very existence.
Hahahaha, I’m sorry
I want to play as a small, fast Elite. Maybe a slightly more agile melee speed than a Spartan
And basically the same height
7’4
undone plume
which chat is it where you do the ! t and it gives you a quote
humble yacht
humble yacht
reach
terse lava
Yeah, will always be ticked off they didnt use those for mp
undone plume
2 was fun but 3 was my favorite
versed helm
Yeah, will always be ticked off they didnt use those for mp
They could probably add them into H2A's multiplayer mode at a later date.
cedar surge
elites but with prosthetics
terse lava
Don't believe so
versed helm
elites but with prosthetics
You haven't seen Jega, lol.
terse lava
and there would be no need with infinite coming
cedar surge
yea
humble yacht
I think Jega might be unique in his willingness to use prosthetics
versed helm
"Nanomachines, heretic."
I like the look of Jega, sans his forehead
I dislike the colour scheme for his armour set.
I think it’s acceptable
I honestly want to see Elites in green armour.
Hell yeah
versed helm
Oh, but that’s a really pale looking green
terse lava
Yeah but still green
versed helm
They do wear green
That shade of green is overly light for me.
That’s like, signs of algae build up in fish tank green