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This is the Orion Complex i assume Halo refers to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_Molecular_Cloud_Complex
Ah, so the galaxy map is there, but not the annotated version of it
Yah the capital is in the Complex
The Orion complex is a large nebular complex in the Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy. The nebula was once the nexus of Forerunner activity as the core of their ecumene. It was home to the Forerunner homeworld Ghibalb,[1] located at the outer edges of the nebula, the triple star system housing the homeworld of Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting and his family,[2] and the Capital, the seat of the Ecumene Council. The cloud itself is situated between 1,500 and 1,600 light-years away from the Sol system and is hundreds of light-years across. The complex contains several smaller nebulae, and many protoplanetary discs and young stars.[3]
So its within 1,600 lys from Sol
How much do SPARTAN-III'S weigh in MJOLNIR armor?
I checked Halopedia and apparently, noble 6 weighs about 239 pounds, which I just know can't be right if he's in armor.
If it was Mark V, it's a quarter of ton
Mark V is a quarter of a ton on its own is what you're saying @slim thorn?
Pretty sure it's half a ton, or 1,000 lbs
No, it's quarter ton and it's the lightest MJOLNIR Armor
mark IV and above except Mark VI are half a ton
Oh yeah, the Interplanetary Wars
LMAO
i told that guy what ostral said. was very respectful and kind and the dude called me the most annoying person on twitter. be like that some times.
just be carefuller who you try to talk to nowa days not worth your time to talk to a wall.
Gawrsh
Lol
its fine though, cant let one bad experience ruin yea day haha.
I'm either a genius
Or a idiot
I just realised what had happened to that ring in halo infinite
I learned that the hard way
u gonna tell us?
Where is Mark v’s weight detailed?
Ok that data drop says that Chief is 994 lbs in armor. So where did valkyrious get “quarter of a ton” from?
That the banished destroyed the rings
I thought that they had fired the ring but that didnt make snese
Only took a year and a halve
Destroying the rings doesn’t make sense either. Atriox wanted to control the rings for himself
Quarter of a ton makes sense, I imagine chief without the armor weighs like 400+
Chief weighs 286 lbs out of armor
So the armor alone weighs just over 700 lbs, based on that data drop
Wait really only 286? The man is 7ft and jacked how is he only 286
Ah nvm apparently only 6’7 without armor boosting him up
Stats are stats
Man 6’7 is hardly an augmentation I feel, especially 500 years in the future.
It’s tall but like scandinavians and basketball players today reach that height naturally
Well I don't think being super tall would help when your raiding normal human innies bases
Probably make you a bigger target actually
Yeah but naturally I’d expect all humans to be a lot taller 500 years from now
Well... idk supposedly you’d want spartans taller for strength and moving faster
Otherwise we’d probably augment them to shrink them
Why would humans get drastically taller? Average human height has fluctuated throughout history, but it's generally always been between 5-6 feet.
Humans were short thousands of years ago
Ancient romans were more like 4-5 ft on average
I remember reading somewhere that the average Roman was like between 5'-5'5 in height
not saying it wasn't, but I don't think humans are gonna get any taller by much.
also pretty sure there's a higher risk for health complications if you're a lot taller than usual
Well if there is an evolutionary advantage to height then humans would keep getting taller over generations. But technology sort of removes the need for humans to evolve physically
He's 6'10 out of armour, 7'2 in it.
ah okay that's better if true
or 208cm out 218cm in.
Yeah the slight boost to height that happened to Westerners during and after the Industrial Revolution has kinda leveled of.
I mean its mostly growth additives and stuff in food that I’m given to understand is responsible for us these days. Like even a century ago people were shorter.
But that’s probably not something we’re going to be doubling down on and I’m pretty sure there’s an active push if anything to get away from that stuff.
I dont know how the conversation turned to how tall was this guy
This discord gets off track a lot. Might have to do with the fact that there's not much new info to talk about other than Inside Infinite.
So what is ol' Eshy's rank in the Banished's hierarchy?
Might be a general like Decimus
again we'll probably find out in Fall
IK was just saying
I wonder how thomas lasky finished his cadet education. Hopefully he didn't need to repeat a grade due to covenant attacks
I wonder what Texas is like in the Halo universe
Normal texas, but they sell assault rifle's in gun stores
well thats how i imagine it
And apparently, Atlanta still exists in the Haloverse
I wonder what the UEG/UNSC would use it for
Thoughts?
I don't know. I've never been to atlanta before.
So how long can a Forerunner live for without their armor?
Is Reach still uninhabitable? as of Halo Infinite
is there actually a map that shows the situation of the galaxy after H5 Guardians?
Like who controls what
That will be very complicated... Unless we can narrow it down into a System Regional map.
I mean centered around the orion arm
in the comments of this reddit post there are examples
Map 2
You know how the covenant attacked Corbulo? I wonder how the surviving cadets continued their education? Did they have to resit their grades or what?
No don't take away my growth chicken tendies 😦 I wanna be 7'29202 like Chief
No, they were transferred to other OCA through UNSC Command. Only three cadets survived it and two are actively involved in Halo, Thomas Lasky and Michael Sullivan.
Lasky was about to discharge, but eventually it did not happen since they need as many Officers as possible to lead the UNSC at Human-Covenant War.
The school most likely rushes the class and the Cadets are transferred to retrain themselves in a specialized academy, like how Lasky did.
But I wonder what became of April orenski.
April was unknown, either she was traumatized and decides to live as a civilian or she goes to ONI.
Can I ask a mega dumb question? Why did the Covenant want to wipe out humanity entirely? How did humanity's existence lead to this genocidal policy? Fairly new to the series (shocker, I know) and wanted to learn more 👍
the three prophets discovered that humanity was the reclaimer of the forerunners and thought that this discovery would shatter their covenant
they decided that if they killed them all off this secret would die and they would be the heirs and the ones who take the great journey
also not a dumb question
Thanks for this. How would that secret destroy the Covenant? Did the religion suggest that the Covenant themselves were the anointed successors?
yes. they believed that they were the ones destined for the great journey
if the whole covenant found out about the humans' importance they would have most likely slaved for them to be let on the great journey
the prophets would lose their power and be forgotten
Ah okay gotcha, appreciate it
basically, political power
^
The Covenant basically were only cohered by the Great Journey; otherwise they were a bunch of species that kind of hated each other. And the Prophets themselves were basically dependent on the Covenant; it was as much survival as it was purely political power.
And the Prophets derived from the same species that betrayed the prehistoric humans right? These lads are so slimy lol
If your choice is destruction, I don't think you can blame them.
That's a fair point
The High Prophets are definitely slimy and doomed basically everyone, but I think what makes Truth compelling is he legitimately did have more selfless ideals driving him, at least at the beginning.
Amazing how power corrupts
it is inhabitable, and people live there and are restoring their home
we know they did this because at the end of Halo Reach the planet is looking better than ever.
That end scene is in 2589, though, so...
yeah, that one
And Infinite is set in 2560.
Wouldn't really say it's particularly inhabitable by then.
what im saying is that reach got restored and people helped with that process
so whats up with Atriox? Did he get killed off or something in a book?
hi just checking out this channel. What's the discussion about?
No, Atriox is still around.
lore and atriox is alive
what im saying is that reach got restored and people helped with that process
But the question asked was if the planet was inhabitable by the events of Infinite.
So.
Atriox is stuck on the ark but was able to return
||in shadows of reach the banished open a portal to the ark to let atriox return||
spoiler warning
it depends on what Agent means by inhabitable. you can survive there, but its basically meridian from H5, just not
exactly
Is there a big list somewhere all of the things the Flood moan in Halo 3? / With IWHBYD skull on. I'm sure I just heard one about "Arbiter.. Return to us" and now I'm intrigued.
check fandom or reddit
Would the Forerunners have found any use for both Mercury and Venus?
I mean people are living on it and have access to the resources needed to be self-sufficient. That tics all the boxes of being an “inhabitable” space.
It’s nowhere near capable of supporting large scale population centers ala New Alexandria, but it is habitable.
If they did, it's never been mentioned. I would image the answer is probably no, though.
Just played through Reachs campaign again and was left with a question I had previously shoved under the rug.
Why is Noble Team specifically being hunted by the Covenant? Like all the reasons I can think of assume the covenant have information on them that I feel they wouldn't have.
So why is this Field Marshall hunting down Noble?
Guess that makes the Traveller more powerful than the forerunners
The Field Marshall is the closest Reach had to an antagonist
Like I refuse to believe this Marshall is just really angry that 6 and 5 murdered some of his Zealots.
There has to be a legitimate reason why this same Zealot Team is being sent to hunt only one of the MANY spartan teams on the planet
He liked their fancy hats the best and wanted to have them all for his personal collection
They’re...not?
It's not a coincidence that the same Field Marshall encounters Noble multiple times and 2 of those encounters end in the death of a Noble team member.
That’s because Reach is poorly written.
Doesn't that Field Marshall die though?
They themselves are not being hunted anymore than any other human combatant across the planet.
At the end Six kills him
Oh yeah
He has a fuel rod cannon
Like he’s not even the only field marshal. Nothing in the game even tells you he’s the same one.
A lot of things in reach aren't explained in game which is one of my only gripes.
Yeah, like why have the civilians not evacuated in the weeks leading up to the Fleet of Particular Justice's arrival
Halo 3 still takes prize for being even dumber.
There’s like a month between their arrival at new mombasa and Halo 3 and they still have warehouse workers working at like ground zero for some reason.
They all have to work long hours for minimal pay, they can't even take days off for the alien invasion
What's Arcadia's excuse then
You mean when it got invaded during the events of Halo Wars?
Mhm
Arcadia was trying to evacuate people in an invasion that was still in it's early stages, unlike Voi and New Mombasa which had already been occupied by the Covenant for a month.
I wonder where those people on Arcadia, the ones that were evacuated, ended up
I think some became refugees on mars
And some stsyed after the unsc beat off the initial invasion and ran off to grow food for the UEG
Before the covenant came back and finished the job
I think there might be a ship or two named after a president
I find it odd that Red Team kind of just hitched a ride with Spirit.
It never seems like they're officially transferred to Cutters command (from Pillar of Autumn I assume). They just kind of got dragged along
"lol u guys with us now"
Lol get rekt what u gonna do bout it m8
Lol u trapped in a ship what are you going to do leave it lol
Yes
If someone may answer
In halo 3 when master cheif destroys 01 did it disable it destroy the rest if so how
John didn't destroy Installation 01. If you meant the Ark, Installation 00, that wasn't destroyed either. Just damaged.
Yeah that what I meant
And the other rings were not effected
Yep
At the moment, the new 04 doesn't have a working death pulse, 05's index is somehow missing, and 03'd index and itself are someplace secret
I just realised how much John's back is gonna hurt after all of this
After carrying the humans in this war and the others
lol
But am I wrong
No you're not wrong
"damaged"
Ya know given the explosion was from an overloading halo ring... Ark came off pretty well all things considered
Is the beam rifle quieter than the UNSC's sniper rifle?
Field Marshals never die, their death animation is just a fictional image the MJOLNIR displays to a Spartan's HUD to boost morale
That's a jpeg of an image someone made in Reach
Like, if that's meant to be "proof" that no Field Marshal has ever been killed and that Mjolnir actively tries to hide the fact, first off, it's not good proof. Second, something like that would be a big thing in the lore. Given that it isn't and nobody has ever spoken about such a thing even existing, it's clear you've made up the idea to try and hype of a random Field Marshal that the player kills as being someone way more important than he actually was
didn't catch the sarcasm I guess
Sarcasm doesn't work in a text based format
Sure it does; the ridiculousness of this statement "Field Marshals never die, their death animation is just a fictional image the MJOLNIR displays to a Spartan's HUD to boost morale" gives it away
it's sarcasm, a joke
The fact that you needed to explain it just proves that it doesn't work
No it just proves you didn't catch it, it's just a sarcastic remark man lol
It didn't work as sarcasm
I am actually concerned that you read this "their death animation is just a fictional image the MJOLNIR displays to a Spartan's HUD to boost morale" which is an obvious ridiculous statement about the lore, and took it seriously
Try amazon
How would that work.
Books there
Would it link with my Kindle, then?
And uh
I did try Amazon.
It said the product isn't available for purchase.
Oh
I bough Ghosts of Onyx from there a few days ago
nice pfp
Just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. I get it just fine...
And yes I know I didn’t need to tag you before you say it lol
Are the Skirmishers considered separate from the Jackals?
Yes. Divergent speciation
Skirmishers,the avian ones,and the dino ones
all of em pirates
pls
Not every one
The best jackal
@gilded mason nonsense, Ruuhtian classic
nuh
Skirmishers are like jackals who exercise
Yea huh
nuh
Well, least we can agree Reach had the worst Jiralhanae
brutes are just bad in general
They cant even decide if they want to be monkeys or bears
I usually tend to side with bungie era stuff but I love the Ibie'shan
They should go back to being rhino-bears rather than the gross human-like apes they currently are
Same.
This is a weird idea and when I say this I don't mean I wanna see it in a game it means I just want it to exist but hear me out, what if the UNSC army modified some Falcons to have a gunship variant, like the gunship huey, basically use the troop transport bay for ammo for some mini guns or something on hardpoints attached and then put so missile launchers on the hardpoints
Do you mean pelicans? Cuz falcons are already modified with gunships. Pelicans too, for that matter
How are they modified?
Grenade turrets, chain gun turrets and nose guns
They only thing it has that would make it considered a gunship is the nose gun, Im saying give it missiles and stuff to use against armor and to provide clear air support. Its weaponry by default is meant primarily for defense of the vehicle.
Yeah, I could see that. And modding a vehicle to be used for something else has been seen. (343 era pelicans made into owl insertion craft)
Yea
They give it grenade launchers and probably they could have guess cannons
Autocorrect
Oof
lol
Oops
What other extended universe vehicles are there? (that haven't been seen in the games)
I feel like for aircraft in the UNSC, using Spartan Lasers is probably better than using gauss cannons, as usually with Gauss cannons they are using 25mm rounds and up, and for something small like helicopters or aircraft that need space for transport and other stuff, there's not a lot of space to store the ammo for them
Take the Hawk for example, it uses a spartan laser
Yeah, that's a good thought, you need room for bullets but only a battery for plasma
Yes
Yeah, I haven't seen that before. Didn't play the mobile games
I cant name any off the top of my head but I know there is that one helicopter shown I think when they were training Chief with cortana
when he dodges the missile
What book? (comic, ect)
I found the name, it was the AV-19 Skyhawk
Thanks
If you check halopedia, you might find something new
Yeah the skyhawk is like a previous version of the AV-22 Sparrowhawk
I can definitely see it
Very cool
I remember in Halo Envoy they modded some Nightingales with weapons to fight against Brutes
Interesting, any books that you recommend?
Ghosts of Onyx and Halo Envoy I think are the only two halo books Ive read so far but they are both pretty good
No spoilers, I'm reading Ghosts now, but I'll check out Envoy
Read Broken Circle and Shadow of Intent when you have the time, as well
I enjoyed Shadows of Reach, although there's a twist at the end that you might need to read retribution and/or last light (I think that they're the right books)
Yeh
I'm very mixed about the art style change with the Jackals, I don't think its bad, I don't, however I'm a person who likes consistency, I know they gave backstory about why they look different but it kinda felt cheap.
If they ever change the art style of the Skirmishers in a halo game Imma be mad though because I think the Skirmishers look perfect
Yeah, 100% agree
Changing something makes people who like the old and people who like the new
Effectively pitting a community against itself
We see this in a lot of controversial changes that 343 make
Also, what are your thoughts on halo follower?
He's not a youtuber people should watch
Yeah, he spreads misinformation about the lore, have you seen what he said about the twist in shadows of reach? (No spoilers)
I have not, I try not to listen to anything from him
It's dumb, enter name here has been brainwashed and now works for the enemy and even tried killing enter spartan II name here
sounds stupid lol
I've heard people question why the M41 Vulcan only fires at 500 rpm instead of being like a minigun, but I actually see the advantages of it, for one thing its probably good for conserving ammo, looking at the Warthog it looks like it would be really hard to reload it right there in the heat of battle and its also good for preventing overheating, at 500rpm with a rotating barrel, the M41 Vulcan probably overheats really slow, the only reason guns like the minigun and the GAU-19 overheat so fast is because of their extremely fast fire rate
Wait, wait, hold up.
Assuming I'm thinking of the right part of SoR, did... did he even read the book?
What’s the difference between Coating and past Customization?
Not really a lore topic
What did the Primordial say that made the anchient humans who heard it commit suicide?
@gilded mason what did it say?
I dunno
Ok
I think it said what the flood was and how there was no true escape from it or something like that but thats just a hunch@gilded mason
Sounds plausible.
How much autonomy does each nation-state on Earth have in the 26th century, since from what it looks like, they are all under the banner of the UEG
If I am correct the Precursors were for the most part God's
If mjolnir armour was designed for augmented humans, do you think a Spartan 1 can handle it? For example Avery Johnson
The details for augmentations for the Orion candidates is pretty sketchy, but my bet would be hell no.
Stuff like how the armor reacts to the heightened reflexes and requires the strength of a Spartan not to tear someone apart suggests they'd be less likely to be horribly mauled trying to use it, but wouldn't come out much better than a regular joe.
I mean they could probably handle current gen armour. It’s designed for Spartan 4s which have a bit less going on with augments. The armour itself is designed to do a lot of the heavy lifting in their stead.
So when johnson who died in halo 3 says in the end of odst "you are gonna tell me what they are looking for" to VRGL, what was he reffering to?
Ark portal
What has it to do with halo 3
Ohhhh
Yeah
The blue ball in the sky
That they all flew into
Well more specifically the massive subterranean super structure that generated said ball in the sky.
Yeah
Blue balls
Lol I hate how the UNSC seem to be reduced to a ragtag resistance group in ODST. The Covenant were only invading Earth for a day and they're already straggling.
I love it
Well
That's because that's mombasa
The area hit the hardest by the covenant
And where most of them were
Did you miss the part where a massive slip space rupture went off in the city and just scattered and disrupted all ground based troops that were present?
I mean all things considered that was pretty much what the UNSC was at that point in the war Im pretty sure
Hell in Ghosts of Onyx they mention the reason they needed old nukes from Cuba was because they were running out of more modern ones.
And correct me if I'm wrong but Im pretty sure the Battle of Havana was happening at about the same time as the Battle of New Mombasa
Yeah the Battle of Havana took place like almost 2 weeks after the Battle of Mombasa so not that far off
why was there a battle in cuba
The covenant had taken control of a Space Elevator in Havana and the UNSC needed to restock on nuclear weapons as their stock was being depleted
And the brutes were stealing some nukes
yeah that too
Are hunter captains canon
Except for the Arbiter and Enforcers
i mean enforcers are just elites with plasma casters so they are probably canon just not a formal unit
Im pretty sure yap yap isnt canon
isnt there that one spec ops grunt that rolls with Rtas and fought a spartan
and won
Yeah his name was Stolt
He's also beat Elites before.
Listened to a 20 minute history of the Flood video today. It feels so good to be diving back into Halo lore.
Agreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MapTlW80f6Y forgot about this ad, is the beginning part with john prior to abduction canon?
Are Sabres still active?
yes
Have they been seen since Reach?
That's what I wanna know
It's getting old seeing certain things be used in one or two pieces of media and never again.
Welcome to vidya games
yes tehy are
they're used in fleet battles i believe
also mentioned in places etc afterwards
and still in some service
No.
Does red vs blue connect to the halo lore?
no
Ok
Canonically, no. But in red vs blue supposedly project freelancer was a competitor to the spartan program Im pretty sure
Does humanity even celebrate Valentine's Day in the 2500s?
well i don't see why not
Yeah, the Infinity had a Valentine's day dance.
I doubt that event panned out well.
Wait, why?
Yeah, especially since the galaxy is under lockdown by the Created
It was 2558 it was scheduled for, so no Created yet.
for all intensive purposes its safe to say all of the holidays we celebrate today in real life, are celebrated in the Halo Universe
The fun part comes in thinking about holidays they may have that we do not.
Like the anniversary of the UEG's establishment
There is probably an allocated day towards remembering the UNSC's casualties for the Covenant War.
They also got that hill
Do you think that they observe that day of remembrance on November 11?
you know, I'm pretty surprised that, from what i've seen, the UNSC doesn't make use of anything like Hellfire missile's for helicopters
Do not discuss or post links that contain or reference profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent or unlawful topics, names, material or information. This also includes [...] information about hacking or modding content on a console, PC, or other device, spoilers (whether it be about Halo or not), real or fake, and things that break the Xbox Live Terms of Service.
That sounds odd when tools are coming out soon.
Not really odd. There’s good modding and bad modding
But also not really relevant to lore talk
They should probably make it less ambigious since there s lot of non-malicious mods out there
All right
What year in canon does the movie Forward Unto Dawn take place?
Nevermind, I found the answer.
Good job
lol idk if that's sarcasm but thank you. I'm still surprised chief was 15 when it happened.
I’m genuinely glad when people remember they can look stuff up themselves
When I asked, I was on my phone and can't use my browser on there, but then I just went to the pc.
Something I cannot find, after searching for half an hour no less, is why Lasky is able to still serve on a UNSC ship, let alone be its captain, when he has that medical condition. He has to go into cryosleep inevitably, so why is the UNSC just fine with this, when they were ready to discharge him before?
Does the UEG use both Uranus and Neptune for anything?
Gas mining I believe
Possibly for Helium-3
I am unsure, but it's unlikely as that event occurred over 600 years ago in the 2500s.
Humans now still celebrate Christmas, which is based on an event that happened over 2000 years ago so the idea that humanity would still host a day of remembrance for those who fought and died in wars isn't exactly unlikely
I agree, it has a 50/50 shot. A lot of holidays have vanished over the years, but some obviously persist.
Does anyone know where I can find information on what wavespace is, in halo?
Warfleet glossary, pretty much. There's not a lot.
tl; dr it's slipspace, but for communications.
Thanks for the reference. 😄
Well, the Warfleet glossary entry is two sentences and it might actually be all the information there is.
https://www.halopedia.org/Superluminal_communications
Here is a detailed explanation on wave-space technology.
Yeah, I knew about the tech, but I was curious about "wavespace" itself. Like how we know about slipspace and the varying technologies that use/tap into it. Seems there's more info on slipspace than wavespace.
It seems to be one of the vague elements to the Halo universe that hasn't received a thorough elaboration. I wonder if organisms can experience an equivalent to hyper-jump sickness from staring into Slipspace.
d
space magic go brrrrrrr

Im assuming the battery life of the Plasma Rifle in the halo lore is a lot longer than the gameplay .
That's one way of summarising the matter.
Are there any notable covenant splinter factions left after Jul 'Mdama's covenant was destroyed?
other than the banished
Like a faction that still believes in the great journey
Keepers
Are they mentioned in any book?
yes
Yep. Last Light, Retribution, and Shadows of Reach
there was one led by San Shyuum and even had a Prelate as its leader but it was destroyed by Rtas
thanks! I hope we run into them in Infinite lol, imagine the Banished and UNSC working together to stop them from activating Zeta halo or something like that
Oh wait Zeta halo is destroyed beyond repair right?
no
It can still be fired?
maybe, but while it is damaged, it's not beyond repair
it's in the process of repairing itself in the Infinite media we've seen
Oh like that sentinal in the water doing repairs?
no
Did the alien races return to their previous religions after the Covenant War?
Some did
🙂
Yup, I prefer to just wave it away as "space magic loulioilioiliol" instead of having to explain Precursor-Flood-Dust / Forerunners overthrew the Precursors / Ancient Humanity / Star Roads Big Mad
It is an elaborate explanation for such a simple reason after all.
Neural Physics seems scary if it can be used against someone militarily
I hope that it is never included as a mechanic in one of the Halo titles.
What even is neural physics?
Space magic.
Got it, thanks
I mean, neural physics is a real concept in our world.
Neural physics was a Precursor concept and science which posited that the Mantle encompassed the entire universe, including living beings, energy and matter. The principles of neural physics also postulated that the entire universe was living, but in a way that was beyond the comprehension of biological organisms.
People actually believe the universe is alive and such.
I'm sure they call it something else though.
Ahh, thank you.
im watching hunt the truth is it cannon realy intersting so far
Yes, it is canon
okay good
it is amazing
It's one of those things I feel like I should've had to pay for. I would gladly do so, too.
How did guilty spark survive the first game?
He left the ring before it blew
he flew away from the blast
But where did he fly to? Outer space?
I didn't know that monitors can survive in space.
Why wouldn't you think they can?
He's a robot rofl
I don't know. I mean i was looking at the designing side itself.
He just flew to the nearby forerunner gas mining facility
Some Sentinels followed him there, unless the mine already had a complement of Sentinels
It did
If anyone wants a full in depth breakdown of the Rings, here's one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuVaaA_-87c
And you know entry into a planet. Don't things burn when they enter the atmosphere? Unless its possible to teleport in space
Forerunner metal is fairly robust
It took a bunch of blasts from a spartan laser to destroy him, aimed directly at him. Atmosphere entry, even ignoring his shields, probably couldn't do much. But half the halo was in tact and he could teleport using that maybe, still. Like he already was.
But yeah, he says he just flew over to the planet.
less than half of Installation 04 was left intact
also once the halo was damaged, the teleportation grid was immediately inaccessible
Was a figure of speech, but where did you get the info on the grind being immediately inaccessible?
grid* I love autocorrect sometimes.
why would it survive the damage?
how is the grid supposed to transport you to a part of the ring no longer connected?
We know the grid can teleport you a good ways away from the ring itself, and based on the information I found on Halopedia; There were a lot of telemetry clusters throughout the ring to ensure it was operational at all times. You don't need the entire thing to be in tact if you have enough energy and access to one of the conduits.
As far as the energy part, if Cortana could pull the energy from chief's suit. I feel like spark, backed up by sentinels, wouldn't have much of a problem drawing the energy required.
Doesn't matter anyway though, since as I said earlier, spark already said he flew. So it's irrelevant.
Hello
I want to know more about the lore
So
I have a question
I dont really know exactly what are the forerunners
I will wait for a answer :)))
Can a Beam Rifle one hit kill a SPARTAN in Mark VI MJOLNIR?
There're an ancient race that had to create the Halo rings after a bunch of past actions began piling up. Like killing their creator race, fighting humans, and their own powerful AI joining the Flood
Or is it two hits?
@desert dirge
I know they one hit kill regular Humans and the like, I just want to know how SPARTAN-II's hold up against it
Probably, if it hits a vital spot
Thanks i appreciate that
Plasma is just dangerous as hell in general, Beam Rifle especially
The Beam moves at like, Mach 10.7
plasma go
What is more powerful a plasma gun or a needler?
Even MJOLNIR doesn't hold up that well against Plasma Rifle bolts
Individual Shots, Plasma Rifle for sure.
Power-wise, it'd go to plasma rifle
The Plasma rifle is an instant kill to anything that isn't superhumanly durable.
Even to some things that are.
It make sence
Not to mention it causes 3rd degree burns just by a near miss
Hi guys, how are you? I'm fine, and you?
Im cool
I don't even want to imagine the devastation the Beam Rifle would cause to a SPARTAN, nevermind a regular Human.
Great
Well
Does anyone know Fallout?
How much do you write? @barren ferry ?
That will be the fastest way to die
You realize what this chat is
I already here the people running towards you
I like it but this is a Halo discord xD
Yes sir
You didn’t know tod Howard bought halo
Wdym by that, exactly?
Ammm I don't even know who that guy is but if I buy him I hope he does his job well
(´ω`)
Does each nation-state on Earth still have their own military?
Not sure, but don't think so.
Mjolnir can take some plasma bolts
Newer models especially, I'd assume.
you think Hunters would be effected by flash bangs
That element is dependent on how they process visual information. I suspect that it would probably disable certain limbs on the unit.

Grunt Rebellion!

Flashbangs would be cool for halo ngl, I wonder why they were never put in
they kind of were, in Halo 3
yeah as that equipment but I don't remember those being around in muliplayer a lot or even at all
I mean, when the game has a bunch of sci-fi weapons and the sky is the limit, as far as the weapons they can create, I would be disappointed if they fell back on a literal flashbang.
I think its would be hard for a flashbang to somehow be unbalanced ngl, like you'd actually have to go out of your way to make a flash bang unbalanced
I mean the UNSC still use frags which for all intensive purposes is almost exactly the same as frag grenades we have today
flashbangs wouldn't be very helpful because its basecly a flare, which brutes already have
plus not the best is close combat, saying it takes time to throw them, giving the ememy time to shoot you
I fail to see the use as well; You could throw a flashbang, and if it hits, then that throw would've just been 10x better if it was a frag/sticky.
yeah, and just a mormal frag is annoying enough(if your on the wrong side)
and there arent many missions were they would see good purpose
well with a frag an enemy could just as easily survive and kill you with a flash bang you disorientate the enemy so they can't really fight back and you can kill em
It has the deployable shield problem; If I could throw up a bubble shield instead, what the heck do I need the plasma deployable shield for? Same concept. I can throw a nade and damage, or I can throw a nade and stun them, just to have to shoot them anyway.
yes, they blind and deafen you momentarily
well with a deployable shield you can shoot through it
frags and sticky do* damage*
although the deployable sheild is really cool, its kinda op
halo players typically don't like weapons and abilities that stop them from playing
an item that blinded or stunned you wouldn't go over well
Also, just throwing this out there; It's not a tactical shooter, it's an arcade shooter. There's a reason why clan raids have to be done with specific maps and a bunch of other rules in place. They practically have to rebalance the game to make it like a tac-shooter. Flashbangs would be good imo, if this wasn't a fast-paced, arcade shooter.
that said, this is the lore channel, not gameplay channel
Apologies, I will stop.
true
i agree completly
So, guys, there anything that happened in 2553? Like, after the Covenant War is over?
In short: a lot
yeah that tends to happen when a massive war that caused a massive change in the course of history happens
We’re the flood on the ark completely contained
Hopefully
what?
Anything can happen with it
with what
My mum's nagging me to bring my phone down cya
It seems that way, but it's likely left purposefully ambiguous so that 343 can go either way if they want
didnt the banished release the flood by accident
Yes, and then they defeated the Flood.
And even if it wasn't completely destroyed, it has been contained to some degree.
What do you mean?
Luckily, they stopped it fairly soon after it started, and they had the ample help of the Ark's own, more advanced, defences
true
Which was the main deciding factor
although promeatheans aren't a thing in halo 3, its weird that there are none on the ark
i mean theres sentienals but they arent very strong compared to the flood
The small types aren't in gameplay, yes.
Though there are many types, including big and beefy ones
In Halo 3, we weren't on the Ark long enough compared to other installations
Hm?
i guess 343 can retcon them in anytime
Retcon what in?
knights and stuff
Installation 00 was a Builder facility rather than Warrior-Servant, so... not terribly strange that there wasn't a major Promethean presence.
just not in gameplay
Promethean constructs weren't created until the final 4 years of the Forerunner-Flood War, so they weren't wide spread
Gameplay not important. Gameplay always devolves into big monke and angery controller combo. Gameplay not enduring.
Lore. Only Lore important.
yup
So they first saw Armigers on the Ark in 2554 but Del Rio acts surprised when they see them on Requiem?
There were no armigers seen on requiem
Did he ever see any on there?
that we know of
I thought the Knights were armigers
Armigers were first encountered in 2555, but Del Rio wasn't present and the kind encountered were more like Soldiers than Knights
Knights are 1 type of Armiger. Soldiers are another, and there are several types.
Imagine fighting the Flood and not realizing you would benefit from mechanical war constructs until the END of said war. 
Didact was clearly ahead of his time. Forerunners wouldn't have needed to fire the rings of The Builder wasn't such an a$$hat.
whats the differance from armigers and promeatheans
Armigers are a type of Promethean
this tbh
Oh
Promethean was a particular rank of the Forerunner Warrior-Servant rate
They had mechanical war constructs, but they weren't very effective.
that page dosent really alaborate on the question
Armigers are a classification of Forerunner combat machine
Other way around
meant the robot promeathean things
And specifically, Promethean Knights and Soldiers are types of Armigers
Watchers are a class of Sentinel.
got it
It sucks making a type of soldier then only having a short time to use it before the war you're involved in is over. Poor Forerunners
what about crawlers
Crawlers seem to be their own classification at the moment.
huh
meant the robot promeathean things
Still applies
Knights and Soldiers were specific types of Armiger utilized by the Prometheans
got it
Knights specifically were only created at the end of the war but the Ur-Didact, too.
Would say they didn't help much during the war anyway, seeing as the logic plague turned many against their creators
why didnt the forerunners during the forerunner-flood war just quarantine every single infested planet, and starts dropping chunks of 100% alcohol to the flood, make some alcohol granades and alcohol powered weapon hahahahha
The problem with that is the flood had space ships and could easily evade interplanetary lockdown, a more effective plan would be for the forerunners to arm their space ships with alcohol squirt guns
you're correct, they should do uh something like space sentinels, like the ones protect the rings, so they can shoot alcoholz. if the alcohol is useless because its a ship, so then they should make space sentinels with alcohols and sun powered lazer
aint that convinient? ( Space sentinels that will patrol all over the universe everyday )
one planet like earth contains chunks and loads of chunk of alcohol, so if the forerunner already owned lots of planet, why not making 3 or 4 planets into drug farms which will become the main source to maintain the war and make the forerunner win
Well they were very dumb and decided to use the halo's instead
yes hahahaha
they should've have 2000 average IQ by now
imma put this on halo waypoint
..the heck?
So the Armigers were like the Spartans of the Forerunners?
No
They were disposable war bots that could drown the enemy in numbers before a regular Forerunner Warrior-Servant entered the field.
Oh
Still a shame they only got to use them for a short time before the war was over.
If anyone has a moment to answer; When the elites fight the brutes, in that naval battle on the ark, why were the elites able to win so easily? Are the brutes like, bad at naval engagements?
They didn't have much experience at naval combat
Oh, I see.
And to make things worse, they were up against masters
I didn't know they were still inexperienced at that point in the war, but that makes sense, thank you. It confused me for a long time.
Are the Jackals also inexperienced with naval combat? I ask because I recently learned they have their own ships too.
True, though I doubt many were able to actually command other vessels and enact grand strategy.
Ah, fair. So no fleets of jackals? lol
I don't wanna fight a fleet of jackals anyway; On legendary, there'd be nowhere to hide from the beam rifles. xD
One of the Covenant's founding species versus the Covenant's newest.
BTW I wonder if the Covenant have any form of law enforcement
They do
A lot of ships that human encountered were typically just used for enforcing law before the war started
See, I had thought it was just marshal law, so the law enforcement would just be their ridiculously strong military.
@stable flower they were actually used often during the human-forerunner wars, and later the flood war. They began limiting them thanks to the logic plague
@gilded mason i think he means an actual proper police force
Yeah, curious though now what they would be called, least the police force on High Charity.
Do u guys think the Prometheans' would return in Infinite? even if they do idk how 343i would add them to the story. Also I havent play Halo wars 2, were there prometheans in that game?
They have to. The Created are still at large.
I mean they’re out for both the Banished and the UNSC. Seems pretty self-explanatory.
Also I havent play Halo wars 2, were there prometheans in that game?
No. The only Forerunner units present in HW2 are Sentinel varieties.
They were originally apparently supposed to make an appearance as DLC, but the Flood won that
I don't think Prometheans were ever going to be campaign DLC, just a potential new multiplayer faction.
wasnt the guardian showed in halo wars 2
Signs aren't looking good at the moment, but we'll see
At the end, yeah.
I do
knights teleport too much
In Halo 4, sure
u cant read em
You can easily read them.
Where they're teleporting is pretty clearly broadcast and you can make a reasonable estimation of where they'll appear.
But again, that's Halo 4.
halo 4 elites sucked to me
In which Elites suck on Legendary, too
they kept running then melee you so freakin fast
Yeah. The problem wasn't the Prometheans, necessarily, it's that difficulty scaling since Halo Reach has just been done by making the player incredibly weak and enemy shields stupid strong
I'll take H2 legendary over Halo 4 legendary
Yeah I dont play legendary will try it eventually I just go straight for heroic
I wonder what happened to Sara Sorvad.
@pulsar pivot if u go for halo 2 legendary. Gravemind is where the soul breaks
Oof
what level?
All I hear is the jackal snipers are annoying
One shot
yeah
"Brutes!"
"Brutes!"
"Brutes!"
For me it was just boring
Jackal Snipers are tolerable once you’ve died enough to memorise their spawn positions
"The faster you can kill those brutes, the better."
Obviously
Brutes are annoying
They push you off the bridges and punch you too death
no but they like 1 shot u'
in gravemind
within 5 seconds of starting ur prob dead
no cover
2 brutes
destroy u
this is all the pain
Oh
in halo 2
wait, is it the level where chief scares a grunt?
"Boo"
To be honest, I think fighting the flood was more annoying
They were obviously much more tanky than elites
especially with the flood forms with the bloated appearances
flood was annoying with library and cortana. but gravemind is just so much worse
Cortana was fun
yeah
Library was boring for me
for legendary just hug walls
library is only hard cause u get lost
so easily
and rocket launcher flood
oh god
bro
Follow the big blue metal thing
sniper jackels and rocket launcher flood, and the little bug flood that shoot things
I swear I turned a corner and see a mini sun coming at me
nightmares
Oh yes, the flood with the rocket launcher was so frustrating.
ranged Pure Form
gogodI hate them
forget Jackal Snipers, ranged Pure Forms were the real worst
The level where you have to save cortana wasn't bad to me, because at least you got a flame thrower to torch the flood up.
There was a tower in the flood version of voi and there were just like 5 of them me being on heroic if I got out of cover I would get pinned down
I always wondered hey where did arbiter get that flamethrower and just a week ago I notice a flame thrower near that pelican
The 7 years of halo 3
is the streets of new mombasa halo odst, and truth and reconciliation
Never noticed
yeah
I need to revisit H2 Legendary sometime because I genuinely don’t remember it being as painful an experience as most people make it out to be
I know nobody likes 4 , well not everybody but the ending level I thought was fun
I may have had more fun with halo odst than halo 2
The first time you encountered a scarab I loved that
scarabs suck
In 3 not 2
I didn't mind Halo 4
I loved them
I liked the first level of halo 4
4 is still one of my favorite campaigns.
Though I’m sure I’m a bit biased since it was the first Halo game I’d played
Im sad the death barriers are everywhere
5 was umm passable
What i didn't like was running out of ammo when fighting forerunner constructs.
Reach is my favorite campaign
I’d still much rather replay 4’s campaign than either 3’s or Reach’s.
Because it's all in one game and not 3
Five felt more of a Locke-centred game.
is they introduced locke in halo 4, halo 5 wouldve been better
they forced a character
Reach gave more lore as far as I'm concerned
into the game
no
not the actual lore
if it was the real lore
it would be even better
but reah was fun
Ok not actual lore but in general
I liked the flying part
Zoom
in the city of alexandria
Oh yeah
I just bought a few more halo books
When I was young playing 3 I never noticed the flamethrower near the pelican and just noticed that it was there a week ago
I never knew
Arbiter always popped up with one and I was yooo
Where did you get that
I'm currently replaying reach cause it's been a while. Unlike last time, i intend to finish the full campaign. Last time was different since I was playing it at a mate's house. I kinda know the ending of Halo Reach because some guy at school thought it would be funny to give me spoilers.
I put the letter f
Hes dead
That was sad
he was sick
I loved emile
It cuts to black and the implication is that he’s dead.
If he survived he probably wouldn’t be alive much longer anyway considering everything going on.
of course Jun aliv
I liked horhay.
Jun lives
I liked 052. The rest of Noble made me feel nothing.
F in chat for the second spartan to get the classification "Hyper-Deadly"
which reminds me, how did Horhay end up with Noble Team?
Idc what anybody says to me Johnson is the best written character in halo 2
Yes
Still wish Bungie never wrote up that nonsense about “hyper lethal vector”. Friggin edgy fanfic OC donut steel level garbage.
Hyper-Lethal, and luckily, it was retooled to mean all Spartans (though they should've gotten rid of it entirely)
Hooya!
Well, don't we all? Cause Johnson's the guy who can tease Master Chief and get away with it. Why do you have to jump?
F in chat
Johnson’s dialogue in 2 is fun but the Arbiter is the real star of the campaign.
Yup.
"One day your gonna land on something as stubborn as you"
Neither of em I liked
but he got downgraded to a side kick in halo 3 😦
No
he hit his head falling down
I also liked Chips Dubbo. The Australian marine who miraculously survived every single halo game
He just now helps him
I never notice h until I get the achievement
Chips and fish
Well, he's survived a lot of things worse what he experiences in the games. For him its just another day.
I'm talking, from venomous spiders to snakes to even dropbears.
spartan palmer is discount master chief
Spartan palmer didnt like her
As a fellow aussie, i'm proud of chips.
Commander lasky was good
Why...?
You ever play 4
Yeah, but nothing in that game would make that statement make sense.
well lore wise
who remembers that part where Johnson's bagging out private jenkins for not firing his weapon? I would quote it, but unfortunately the bot bans it because of a word that is similar to darn.
ah
Yes.
The ending where he try's to cheer john up
When he gives them a pelican to help them
Ect.
Did -you- watch the lead-up movie "Forward Unto Dawn" ? Also, idk what cutscene you were watching, but he helps him once, fights by his side, and casually talks to Chief at the end. He didn't try to cheer him up once. If anything, he's more like Johnson than a father figure.
Look how bout not a fatherly figure but a good and helping friend
i don't see why people hate on Spartan Palmer. I'm not saying that I like Palmer, but i'm just curious.
Idk
I actually do like Palmer tbh.
I just dknt get the same vibes as I do from Johnson or keyes
Not saying she's better than other characters, but on her own, she's no slouch.
Palmer's nice in Halo 5. I just don't like her all too much in previous media.
Do ya’ll think the Wraith from Halo is a lot more armored and durable then depicted in game?
Definitely more durable, yeah
I say its about as durable as it is in game
I want flood in halo infinite
Yeah me too
If you compare her to others, you'll always find that she comes up short. Because most of the other fanfavorites have a ton of background lore and extended universe stuff that make their character's well-rounded.
Whenever I see Palmer, all I see is a character from the Clone Wars.
Because her voice actor also voices a character in the clone wars show. So i keep likening Palmer to said clone wars character.
I can totally see that now
I believe the voice actress is also the voice of Ashe from overwatch.
He was, uh, I don't know how to describe my thoughts.
well it was multiple buttons
and u jumped off
and no
U didnt fight truth
arbiter ended truth
Arbiter stabbed him
But i'm surprised that the logic plague works on organic beings.
The only legit boss fight
I would've liked the didact if he was just a character from the Forerunner's story, hundreds of thousands of years ago, but since they brought him to modern day, I feel like it didn't fit.
Was tartarus
