#lore-and-universe

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steep ether
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the locations are

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hold on

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here:

jolly furnace
gilded mason
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Ah, so the galaxy map is there, but not the annotated version of it

jolly furnace
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Yah the capital is in the Complex

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The Orion complex is a large nebular complex in the Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy. The nebula was once the nexus of Forerunner activity as the core of their ecumene. It was home to the Forerunner homeworld Ghibalb,[1] located at the outer edges of the nebula, the triple star system housing the homeworld of Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting and his family,[2] and the Capital, the seat of the Ecumene Council. The cloud itself is situated between 1,500 and 1,600 light-years away from the Sol system and is hundreds of light-years across. The complex contains several smaller nebulae, and many protoplanetary discs and young stars.[3]

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So its within 1,600 lys from Sol

barren ferry
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How much do SPARTAN-III'S weigh in MJOLNIR armor?

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I checked Halopedia and apparently, noble 6 weighs about 239 pounds, which I just know can't be right if he's in armor.

slim thorn
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If it was Mark V, it's a quarter of ton

barren ferry
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Mark V is a quarter of a ton on its own is what you're saying @slim thorn?

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Pretty sure it's half a ton, or 1,000 lbs

slim thorn
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No, it's quarter ton and it's the lightest MJOLNIR Armor

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mark IV and above except Mark VI are half a ton

versed helm
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So would china still be communist in the 26th century?

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Or is it more democratic?

ocean ibex
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No

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How how would communism even survive into the 26th century

versed helm
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Oh yeah, the Interplanetary Wars

autumn vessel
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LMAO

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i told that guy what ostral said. was very respectful and kind and the dude called me the most annoying person on twitter. be like that some times.

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just be carefuller who you try to talk to nowa days not worth your time to talk to a wall.

gilded mason
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Gawrsh

shy hedge
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Lol

autumn vessel
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its fine though, cant let one bad experience ruin yea day haha.

pulsar pivot
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I'm either a genius

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Or a idiot

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I just realised what had happened to that ring in halo infinite

humble yacht
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Where is Mark v’s weight detailed?

tropic forge
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Some ancilliary material on waypoint.

humble yacht
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Ok that data drop says that Chief is 994 lbs in armor. So where did valkyrious get “quarter of a ton” from?

pulsar pivot
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That the banished destroyed the rings

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I thought that they had fired the ring but that didnt make snese

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Only took a year and a halve

humble yacht
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Destroying the rings doesn’t make sense either. Atriox wanted to control the rings for himself

fresh hamlet
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Quarter of a ton makes sense, I imagine chief without the armor weighs like 400+

humble yacht
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Chief weighs 286 lbs out of armor

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So the armor alone weighs just over 700 lbs, based on that data drop

fresh hamlet
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Wait really only 286? The man is 7ft and jacked how is he only 286

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Ah nvm apparently only 6’7 without armor boosting him up

humble yacht
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Stats are stats

fresh hamlet
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Man 6’7 is hardly an augmentation I feel, especially 500 years in the future.

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It’s tall but like scandinavians and basketball players today reach that height naturally

cedar surge
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Well I don't think being super tall would help when your raiding normal human innies bases

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Probably make you a bigger target actually

fresh hamlet
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Yeah but naturally I’d expect all humans to be a lot taller 500 years from now

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Well... idk supposedly you’d want spartans taller for strength and moving faster

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Otherwise we’d probably augment them to shrink them

opal birch
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Why would humans get drastically taller? Average human height has fluctuated throughout history, but it's generally always been between 5-6 feet.

humble yacht
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Humans were short thousands of years ago

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Ancient romans were more like 4-5 ft on average

opal birch
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I remember reading somewhere that the average Roman was like between 5'-5'5 in height

humble yacht
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Yeah that’s what google says

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But still, average height was shorter back then

opal birch
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not saying it wasn't, but I don't think humans are gonna get any taller by much.

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also pretty sure there's a higher risk for health complications if you're a lot taller than usual

humble yacht
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Well if there is an evolutionary advantage to height then humans would keep getting taller over generations. But technology sort of removes the need for humans to evolve physically

tropic forge
fresh hamlet
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ah okay that's better if true

tropic forge
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or 208cm out 218cm in.

opal birch
craggy sierra
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But that’s probably not something we’re going to be doubling down on and I’m pretty sure there’s an active push if anything to get away from that stuff.

pulsar pivot
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I dont know how the conversation turned to how tall was this guy

opal birch
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This discord gets off track a lot. Might have to do with the fact that there's not much new info to talk about other than Inside Infinite.

stable flower
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So what is ol' Eshy's rank in the Banished's hierarchy?

opal birch
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no idea

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guess well find out in Infinite

stable flower
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Might be a general like Decimus

opal birch
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again we'll probably find out in Fall

stable flower
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IK was just saying

nocturne owl
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I wonder how thomas lasky finished his cadet education. Hopefully he didn't need to repeat a grade due to covenant attacks

versed helm
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I wonder what Texas is like in the Halo universe

nocturne owl
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Normal texas, but they sell assault rifle's in gun stores

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well thats how i imagine it

versed helm
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And apparently, Atlanta still exists in the Haloverse

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I wonder what the UEG/UNSC would use it for

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Thoughts?

nocturne owl
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I don't know. I've never been to atlanta before.

versed helm
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So how long can a Forerunner live for without their armor?

noble fjord
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Is Reach still uninhabitable? as of Halo Infinite

versed helm
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is there actually a map that shows the situation of the galaxy after H5 Guardians?

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Like who controls what

slim thorn
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That will be very complicated... Unless we can narrow it down into a System Regional map.

nocturne owl
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You know how the covenant attacked Corbulo? I wonder how the surviving cadets continued their education? Did they have to resit their grades or what?

versed helm
slim thorn
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The school most likely rushes the class and the Cadets are transferred to retrain themselves in a specialized academy, like how Lasky did.

nocturne owl
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But I wonder what became of April orenski.

slim thorn
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April was unknown, either she was traumatized and decides to live as a civilian or she goes to ONI.

versed helm
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Can I ask a mega dumb question? Why did the Covenant want to wipe out humanity entirely? How did humanity's existence lead to this genocidal policy? Fairly new to the series (shocker, I know) and wanted to learn more 👍

remote rain
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the three prophets discovered that humanity was the reclaimer of the forerunners and thought that this discovery would shatter their covenant

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they decided that if they killed them all off this secret would die and they would be the heirs and the ones who take the great journey

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also not a dumb question

versed helm
remote rain
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yes. they believed that they were the ones destined for the great journey

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if the whole covenant found out about the humans' importance they would have most likely slaved for them to be let on the great journey

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the prophets would lose their power and be forgotten

pulsar grail
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basically, political power

remote rain
main rivet
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The Covenant basically were only cohered by the Great Journey; otherwise they were a bunch of species that kind of hated each other. And the Prophets themselves were basically dependent on the Covenant; it was as much survival as it was purely political power.

versed helm
main rivet
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If your choice is destruction, I don't think you can blame them.

versed helm
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That's a fair point

main rivet
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The High Prophets are definitely slimy and doomed basically everyone, but I think what makes Truth compelling is he legitimately did have more selfless ideals driving him, at least at the beginning.

versed helm
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Amazing how power corrupts

remote rain
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it truly is

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and we say only flood controls people

steep ether
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we know they did this because at the end of Halo Reach the planet is looking better than ever.

unique rune
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That end scene is in 2589, though, so...

steep ether
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yeah, that one

unique rune
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And Infinite is set in 2560.

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Wouldn't really say it's particularly inhabitable by then.

steep ether
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what im saying is that reach got restored and people helped with that process

rich scroll
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so whats up with Atriox? Did he get killed off or something in a book?

remote rain
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hi just checking out this channel. What's the discussion about?

unique rune
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No, Atriox is still around.

steep ether
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lore and atriox is alive

unique rune
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what im saying is that reach got restored and people helped with that process
But the question asked was if the planet was inhabitable by the events of Infinite.
So.

remote rain
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Atriox is stuck on the ark but was able to return

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||in shadows of reach the banished open a portal to the ark to let atriox return||

steep ether
humble yacht
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It’s habitable

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Rough, but habitable

steep ether
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exactly

left mica
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Is there a big list somewhere all of the things the Flood moan in Halo 3? / With IWHBYD skull on. I'm sure I just heard one about "Arbiter.. Return to us" and now I'm intrigued.

steep ether
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check fandom or reddit

versed helm
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Would the Forerunners have found any use for both Mercury and Venus?

craggy sierra
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It’s nowhere near capable of supporting large scale population centers ala New Alexandria, but it is habitable.

limpid meadow
noble fjord
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Just played through Reachs campaign again and was left with a question I had previously shoved under the rug.

Why is Noble Team specifically being hunted by the Covenant? Like all the reasons I can think of assume the covenant have information on them that I feel they wouldn't have.

So why is this Field Marshall hunting down Noble?

humble yacht
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Guess that makes the Traveller more powerful than the forerunners

stable flower
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The Field Marshall is the closest Reach had to an antagonist

noble fjord
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Like I refuse to believe this Marshall is just really angry that 6 and 5 murdered some of his Zealots.

There has to be a legitimate reason why this same Zealot Team is being sent to hunt only one of the MANY spartan teams on the planet

unique rune
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He liked their fancy hats the best and wanted to have them all for his personal collection

noble fjord
# craggy sierra They’re...not?

It's not a coincidence that the same Field Marshall encounters Noble multiple times and 2 of those encounters end in the death of a Noble team member.

craggy sierra
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That’s because Reach is poorly written.

versed helm
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Doesn't that Field Marshall die though?

craggy sierra
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They themselves are not being hunted anymore than any other human combatant across the planet.

noble fjord
versed helm
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Oh yeah

noble fjord
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He has a fuel rod cannon

craggy sierra
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Like he’s not even the only field marshal. Nothing in the game even tells you he’s the same one.

noble fjord
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A lot of things in reach aren't explained in game which is one of my only gripes.

stable flower
craggy sierra
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Halo 3 still takes prize for being even dumber.

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There’s like a month between their arrival at new mombasa and Halo 3 and they still have warehouse workers working at like ground zero for some reason.

carmine sleet
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They all have to work long hours for minimal pay, they can't even take days off for the alien invasion

opal birch
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You mean when it got invaded during the events of Halo Wars?

noble fjord
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Mhm

opal birch
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Arcadia was trying to evacuate people in an invasion that was still in it's early stages, unlike Voi and New Mombasa which had already been occupied by the Covenant for a month.

versed helm
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I wonder where those people on Arcadia, the ones that were evacuated, ended up

cedar surge
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I think some became refugees on mars

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And some stsyed after the unsc beat off the initial invasion and ran off to grow food for the UEG

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Before the covenant came back and finished the job

versed helm
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Are any U.S presidents mentioned in the Haloverse?

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Like before the U.S. fell apart

humble yacht
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I think there might be a ship or two named after a president

noble fjord
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I find it odd that Red Team kind of just hitched a ride with Spirit.

It never seems like they're officially transferred to Cutters command (from Pillar of Autumn I assume). They just kind of got dragged along

remote rain
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"lol u guys with us now"

shy hedge
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Lol get rekt what u gonna do bout it m8

remote rain
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Lol u trapped in a ship what are you going to do leave it lol

echo jay
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Yes

pulsar pivot
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If someone may answer

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In halo 3 when master cheif destroys 01 did it disable it destroy the rest if so how

gilded mason
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John didn't destroy Installation 01. If you meant the Ark, Installation 00, that wasn't destroyed either. Just damaged.

pulsar pivot
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Yeah that what I meant

gilded mason
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And the other rings were not effected

pulsar pivot
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I see

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So the others could still very much be activated

gilded mason
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Yep

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At the moment, the new 04 doesn't have a working death pulse, 05's index is somehow missing, and 03'd index and itself are someplace secret

pulsar pivot
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I just realised how much John's back is gonna hurt after all of this

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After carrying the humans in this war and the others

tropic prairie
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lol

pulsar pivot
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But am I wrong

white swan
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No you're not wrong

noble fjord
versed helm
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Is the beam rifle quieter than the UNSC's sniper rifle?

versed helm
carmine sleet
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That's a jpeg of an image someone made in Reach

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Like, if that's meant to be "proof" that no Field Marshal has ever been killed and that Mjolnir actively tries to hide the fact, first off, it's not good proof. Second, something like that would be a big thing in the lore. Given that it isn't and nobody has ever spoken about such a thing even existing, it's clear you've made up the idea to try and hype of a random Field Marshal that the player kills as being someone way more important than he actually was

versed helm
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didn't catch the sarcasm I guess

carmine sleet
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Sarcasm doesn't work in a text based format

versed helm
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Sure it does; the ridiculousness of this statement "Field Marshals never die, their death animation is just a fictional image the MJOLNIR displays to a Spartan's HUD to boost morale" gives it away

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it's sarcasm, a joke

carmine sleet
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The fact that you needed to explain it just proves that it doesn't work

versed helm
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No it just proves you didn't catch it, it's just a sarcastic remark man lol

carmine sleet
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It didn't work as sarcasm

versed helm
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I am actually concerned that you read this "their death animation is just a fictional image the MJOLNIR displays to a Spartan's HUD to boost morale" which is an obvious ridiculous statement about the lore, and took it seriously

wet pollen
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Where can I buy Ghosts of Onyx.

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I can't find it on Kindle.

cedar surge
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Try amazon

wet pollen
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How would that work.

cedar surge
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Books there

wet pollen
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Would it link with my Kindle, then?

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And uh

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I did try Amazon.

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It said the product isn't available for purchase.

cedar surge
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Oh

kind knoll
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I bough Ghosts of Onyx from there a few days ago

versed helm
terse marten
junior dome
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Are the Skirmishers considered separate from the Jackals?

humble yacht
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Yes. Divergent speciation

fair hazel
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skirmishers are a type of kig-yar

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there's three main types of kig-yar

cedar surge
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Skirmishers,the avian ones,and the dino ones

main hill
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all of em pirates

gilded mason
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pls

cedar surge
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Not every one

fair hazel
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Ruuhtian

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T'vaoan

gilded mason
kind knoll
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T'vaoan look mean

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I like that

terse lava
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@gilded mason nonsense, Ruuhtian classic

gilded mason
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nuh

humble yacht
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Skirmishers are like jackals who exercise

terse lava
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Yea huh

gilded mason
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nuh

terse lava
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Well, least we can agree Reach had the worst Jiralhanae

humble yacht
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brutes are just bad in general

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They cant even decide if they want to be monkeys or bears

kind knoll
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I usually tend to side with bungie era stuff but I love the Ibie'shan

gilded mason
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They should go back to being rhino-bears rather than the gross human-like apes they currently are

main hill
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This is a weird idea and when I say this I don't mean I wanna see it in a game it means I just want it to exist but hear me out, what if the UNSC army modified some Falcons to have a gunship variant, like the gunship huey, basically use the troop transport bay for ammo for some mini guns or something on hardpoints attached and then put so missile launchers on the hardpoints

shy hedge
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Do you mean pelicans? Cuz falcons are already modified with gunships. Pelicans too, for that matter

main hill
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How are they modified?

kind knoll
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Grenade turrets, chain gun turrets and nose guns

main hill
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They only thing it has that would make it considered a gunship is the nose gun, Im saying give it missiles and stuff to use against armor and to provide clear air support. Its weaponry by default is meant primarily for defense of the vehicle.

kind knoll
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Yeah, I could see that. And modding a vehicle to be used for something else has been seen. (343 era pelicans made into owl insertion craft)

main hill
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Yea

shy hedge
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They give it grenade launchers and probably they could have guess cannons

main hill
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lol

shy hedge
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Oops

kind knoll
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What other extended universe vehicles are there? (that haven't been seen in the games)

main hill
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I feel like for aircraft in the UNSC, using Spartan Lasers is probably better than using gauss cannons, as usually with Gauss cannons they are using 25mm rounds and up, and for something small like helicopters or aircraft that need space for transport and other stuff, there's not a lot of space to store the ammo for them

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Take the Hawk for example, it uses a spartan laser

kind knoll
shy hedge
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There's the kestrel, a light vtol

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@kind knoll

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It's in spartan assault though

kind knoll
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Yeah, I haven't seen that before. Didn't play the mobile games

main hill
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I cant name any off the top of my head but I know there is that one helicopter shown I think when they were training Chief with cortana

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when he dodges the missile

kind knoll
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What book? (comic, ect)

main hill
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I found the name, it was the AV-19 Skyhawk

kind knoll
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Thanks

shy hedge
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If you check halopedia, you might find something new

kind knoll
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Yeah the skyhawk is like a previous version of the AV-22 Sparrowhawk

main hill
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I can definitely see it

kind knoll
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Very cool

main hill
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I remember in Halo Envoy they modded some Nightingales with weapons to fight against Brutes

kind knoll
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Interesting, any books that you recommend?

main hill
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Ghosts of Onyx and Halo Envoy I think are the only two halo books Ive read so far but they are both pretty good

kind knoll
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No spoilers, I'm reading Ghosts now, but I'll check out Envoy

gilded mason
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Read Broken Circle and Shadow of Intent when you have the time, as well

kind knoll
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I enjoyed Shadows of Reach, although there's a twist at the end that you might need to read retribution and/or last light (I think that they're the right books)

gilded mason
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Yeh

main hill
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I'm very mixed about the art style change with the Jackals, I don't think its bad, I don't, however I'm a person who likes consistency, I know they gave backstory about why they look different but it kinda felt cheap.

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If they ever change the art style of the Skirmishers in a halo game Imma be mad though because I think the Skirmishers look perfect

kind knoll
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Yeah, 100% agree

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Changing something makes people who like the old and people who like the new

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Effectively pitting a community against itself

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We see this in a lot of controversial changes that 343 make

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Also, what are your thoughts on halo follower?

gilded mason
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He's not a youtuber people should watch

kind knoll
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Yeah, he spreads misinformation about the lore, have you seen what he said about the twist in shadows of reach? (No spoilers)

gilded mason
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I have not, I try not to listen to anything from him

kind knoll
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It's dumb, enter name here has been brainwashed and now works for the enemy and even tried killing enter spartan II name here

gilded mason
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Oh lol

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That is one very...special theory.

kind knoll
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Yeah... pretty funny stuff

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Well I'ma get some sleep

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Night

main hill
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sounds stupid lol

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I've heard people question why the M41 Vulcan only fires at 500 rpm instead of being like a minigun, but I actually see the advantages of it, for one thing its probably good for conserving ammo, looking at the Warthog it looks like it would be really hard to reload it right there in the heat of battle and its also good for preventing overheating, at 500rpm with a rotating barrel, the M41 Vulcan probably overheats really slow, the only reason guns like the minigun and the GAU-19 overheat so fast is because of their extremely fast fire rate

unique rune
hidden nymph
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What’s the difference between Coating and past Customization?

humble yacht
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Not really a lore topic

versed helm
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What did the Primordial say that made the anchient humans who heard it commit suicide?

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@gilded mason what did it say?

gilded mason
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I dunno

versed helm
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Ok

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I think it said what the flood was and how there was no true escape from it or something like that but thats just a hunch@gilded mason

gilded mason
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Sounds plausible.

versed helm
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How much autonomy does each nation-state on Earth have in the 26th century, since from what it looks like, they are all under the banner of the UEG

pulsar pivot
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If I am correct the Precursors were for the most part God's

nocturne owl
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If mjolnir armour was designed for augmented humans, do you think a Spartan 1 can handle it? For example Avery Johnson

main rivet
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The details for augmentations for the Orion candidates is pretty sketchy, but my bet would be hell no.

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Stuff like how the armor reacts to the heightened reflexes and requires the strength of a Spartan not to tear someone apart suggests they'd be less likely to be horribly mauled trying to use it, but wouldn't come out much better than a regular joe.

craggy sierra
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I mean they could probably handle current gen armour. It’s designed for Spartan 4s which have a bit less going on with augments. The armour itself is designed to do a lot of the heavy lifting in their stead.

unique crater
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So when johnson who died in halo 3 says in the end of odst "you are gonna tell me what they are looking for" to VRGL, what was he reffering to?

gilded mason
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Ark portal

unique crater
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What has it to do with halo 3

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Ohhhh

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Yeah

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The blue ball in the sky

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That they all flew into

craggy sierra
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Well more specifically the massive subterranean super structure that generated said ball in the sky.

gilded mason
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Yeah

pulsar pivot
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Blue balls

stable flower
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Lol I hate how the UNSC seem to be reduced to a ragtag resistance group in ODST. The Covenant were only invading Earth for a day and they're already straggling.

gilded mason
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I love it

cedar surge
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Well

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That's because that's mombasa

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The area hit the hardest by the covenant

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And where most of them were

craggy sierra
main hill
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Hell in Ghosts of Onyx they mention the reason they needed old nukes from Cuba was because they were running out of more modern ones.

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And correct me if I'm wrong but Im pretty sure the Battle of Havana was happening at about the same time as the Battle of New Mombasa

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Yeah the Battle of Havana took place like almost 2 weeks after the Battle of Mombasa so not that far off

junior dome
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why was there a battle in cuba

main hill
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The covenant had taken control of a Space Elevator in Havana and the UNSC needed to restock on nuclear weapons as their stock was being depleted

cedar surge
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And the brutes were stealing some nukes

main hill
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yeah that too

versed helm
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Are hunter captains canon

cedar surge
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They are

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All banished units are canon

stable flower
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Except for the Arbiter and Enforcers

main hill
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i mean enforcers are just elites with plasma casters so they are probably canon just not a formal unit

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Im pretty sure yap yap isnt canon

fresh hamlet
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He should be

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Gotta have one op grunt in your universe

main hill
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isnt there that one spec ops grunt that rolls with Rtas and fought a spartan
and won

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Yeah his name was Stolt

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He's also beat Elites before.

fresh hamlet
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Is he still alive

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Mc vs stolt, make it happen 343

main hill
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Yeah he's alive, he still works with Rtas

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he's a lieutenant

crude idol
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Listened to a 20 minute history of the Flood video today. It feels so good to be diving back into Halo lore.

terse lava
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Agreed

fresh hamlet
gilded mason
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Yes

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It's mentioned in Hunt the Truth

junior dome
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Are Sabres still active?

fair hazel
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yes

junior dome
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Have they been seen since Reach?

stable flower
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That's what I wanna know

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It's getting old seeing certain things be used in one or two pieces of media and never again.

humble yacht
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Welcome to vidya games

fair hazel
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yes tehy are

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they're used in fleet battles i believe

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also mentioned in places etc afterwards

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and still in some service

versed helm
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i have a question

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does chief really die in the halo 5 trailer?

versed helm
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No.

outer coral
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Does red vs blue connect to the halo lore?

unique rune
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no

outer coral
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Ok

main hill
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Canonically, no. But in red vs blue supposedly project freelancer was a competitor to the spartan program Im pretty sure

versed helm
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Does humanity even celebrate Valentine's Day in the 2500s?

cedar surge
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well i don't see why not

tropic forge
versed helm
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I doubt that event panned out well.

tropic forge
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Wait, why?

stable flower
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Yeah, especially since the galaxy is under lockdown by the Created

tropic forge
#

It was 2558 it was scheduled for, so no Created yet.

main hill
#

for all intensive purposes its safe to say all of the holidays we celebrate today in real life, are celebrated in the Halo Universe

tropic forge
#

The fun part comes in thinking about holidays they may have that we do not.

stable flower
#

Like the anniversary of the UEG's establishment

versed helm
#

There is probably an allocated day towards remembering the UNSC's casualties for the Covenant War.

tepid barn
#

Yes they do respect their fellow comrades

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Remember after the war

pulsar pivot
#

They also got that hill

nocturne owl
main hill
#

you know, I'm pretty surprised that, from what i've seen, the UNSC doesn't make use of anything like Hellfire missile's for helicopters

main hill
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bruh why

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thats stupid

unique rune
#

Do not discuss or post links that contain or reference profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent or unlawful topics, names, material or information. This also includes [...] information about hacking or modding content on a console, PC, or other device, spoilers (whether it be about Halo or not), real or fake, and things that break the Xbox Live Terms of Service.

gilded mason
#

That sounds odd when tools are coming out soon.

humble yacht
#

Not really odd. There’s good modding and bad modding

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But also not really relevant to lore talk

gilded mason
#

They should probably make it less ambigious since there s lot of non-malicious mods out there

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All right

normal shard
#

What year in canon does the movie Forward Unto Dawn take place?

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Nevermind, I found the answer.

humble yacht
#

Good job

normal shard
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lol idk if that's sarcasm but thank you. I'm still surprised chief was 15 when it happened.

humble yacht
#

I’m genuinely glad when people remember they can look stuff up themselves

normal shard
#

When I asked, I was on my phone and can't use my browser on there, but then I just went to the pc.

normal shard
#

Something I cannot find, after searching for half an hour no less, is why Lasky is able to still serve on a UNSC ship, let alone be its captain, when he has that medical condition. He has to go into cryosleep inevitably, so why is the UNSC just fine with this, when they were ready to discharge him before?

versed helm
#

Does the UEG use both Uranus and Neptune for anything?

stable flower
#

Gas mining I believe

versed helm
#

Possibly for Helium-3

versed helm
carmine sleet
#

Humans now still celebrate Christmas, which is based on an event that happened over 2000 years ago so the idea that humanity would still host a day of remembrance for those who fought and died in wars isn't exactly unlikely

normal shard
#

I agree, it has a 50/50 shot. A lot of holidays have vanished over the years, but some obviously persist.

normal shard
#

Does anyone know where I can find information on what wavespace is, in halo?

tropic forge
#

Warfleet glossary, pretty much. There's not a lot.

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tl; dr it's slipspace, but for communications.

normal shard
#

Thanks for the reference. 😄

tropic forge
#

Well, the Warfleet glossary entry is two sentences and it might actually be all the information there is.

normal shard
#

Oh, f.

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Regardless, ty.

normal shard
#

Yeah, I knew about the tech, but I was curious about "wavespace" itself. Like how we know about slipspace and the varying technologies that use/tap into it. Seems there's more info on slipspace than wavespace.

versed helm
#

It seems to be one of the vague elements to the Halo universe that hasn't received a thorough elaboration. I wonder if organisms can experience an equivalent to hyper-jump sickness from staring into Slipspace.

heavy gazelle
#

d

main hill
#

Im assuming the battery life of the Plasma Rifle in the halo lore is a lot longer than the gameplay .

versed helm
silver basin
#

Are there any notable covenant splinter factions left after Jul 'Mdama's covenant was destroyed?

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other than the banished

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Like a faction that still believes in the great journey

humble yacht
#

Keepers

silver basin
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Are they mentioned in any book?

humble yacht
#

yes

gilded mason
#

Yep. Last Light, Retribution, and Shadows of Reach

main hill
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there was one led by San Shyuum and even had a Prelate as its leader but it was destroyed by Rtas

silver basin
#

thanks! I hope we run into them in Infinite lol, imagine the Banished and UNSC working together to stop them from activating Zeta halo or something like that

humble yacht
#

nah

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they went to the Ark

silver basin
#

Oh wait Zeta halo is destroyed beyond repair right?

humble yacht
#

no

silver basin
#

It can still be fired?

humble yacht
#

maybe, but while it is damaged, it's not beyond repair

#

it's in the process of repairing itself in the Infinite media we've seen

silver basin
#

Oh like that sentinal in the water doing repairs?

humble yacht
#

no

versed helm
#

Did the alien races return to their previous religions after the Covenant War?

gilded mason
#

Some did

versed helm
versed helm
versed helm
versed helm
frozen lagoon
#

What even is neural physics?

gilded mason
#

Space magic.

frozen lagoon
#

Got it, thanks

normal shard
#

I mean, neural physics is a real concept in our world.

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Neural physics was a Precursor concept and science which posited that the Mantle encompassed the entire universe, including living beings, energy and matter. The principles of neural physics also postulated that the entire universe was living, but in a way that was beyond the comprehension of biological organisms.

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People actually believe the universe is alive and such.

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I'm sure they call it something else though.

terse lava
#

Called Panpsychism

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@normal shard

normal shard
#

Ahh, thank you.

versed helm
#

im watching hunt the truth is it cannon realy intersting so far

gilded mason
#

Yes, it is canon

versed helm
#

okay good

fair hazel
#

it is amazing

normal shard
#

It's one of those things I feel like I should've had to pay for. I would gladly do so, too.

nocturne owl
#

How did guilty spark survive the first game?

gilded mason
#

He left the ring before it blew

humble yacht
#

he flew away from the blast

nocturne owl
#

But where did he fly to? Outer space?

gilded mason
#

Yes

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He then went to the gas mine right next to the ring

nocturne owl
#

I didn't know that monitors can survive in space.

gilded mason
#

Why wouldn't you think they can?

stable flower
#

He's a robot rofl

nocturne owl
#

I don't know. I mean i was looking at the designing side itself.

cedar surge
#

He just flew to the nearby forerunner gas mining facility

stable flower
#

Some Sentinels followed him there, unless the mine already had a complement of Sentinels

gilded mason
#

It did

sinful pollen
nocturne owl
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And you know entry into a planet. Don't things burn when they enter the atmosphere? Unless its possible to teleport in space

gilded mason
#

Forerunner metal is fairly robust

normal shard
#

It took a bunch of blasts from a spartan laser to destroy him, aimed directly at him. Atmosphere entry, even ignoring his shields, probably couldn't do much. But half the halo was in tact and he could teleport using that maybe, still. Like he already was.

#

But yeah, he says he just flew over to the planet.

humble yacht
#

less than half of Installation 04 was left intact

#

also once the halo was damaged, the teleportation grid was immediately inaccessible

normal shard
#

Was a figure of speech, but where did you get the info on the grind being immediately inaccessible?

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grid* I love autocorrect sometimes.

humble yacht
#

why would it survive the damage?

#

how is the grid supposed to transport you to a part of the ring no longer connected?

normal shard
#

We know the grid can teleport you a good ways away from the ring itself, and based on the information I found on Halopedia; There were a lot of telemetry clusters throughout the ring to ensure it was operational at all times. You don't need the entire thing to be in tact if you have enough energy and access to one of the conduits.

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As far as the energy part, if Cortana could pull the energy from chief's suit. I feel like spark, backed up by sentinels, wouldn't have much of a problem drawing the energy required.

#

Doesn't matter anyway though, since as I said earlier, spark already said he flew. So it's irrelevant.

desert dirge
#

Hello

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I want to know more about the lore

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So

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I have a question

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I dont really know exactly what are the forerunners

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I will wait for a answer :)))

barren ferry
#

Can a Beam Rifle one hit kill a SPARTAN in Mark VI MJOLNIR?

gilded mason
#

There're an ancient race that had to create the Halo rings after a bunch of past actions began piling up. Like killing their creator race, fighting humans, and their own powerful AI joining the Flood

barren ferry
#

Or is it two hits?

gilded mason
#

@desert dirge

barren ferry
#

I know they one hit kill regular Humans and the like, I just want to know how SPARTAN-II's hold up against it

gilded mason
#

Probably, if it hits a vital spot

barren ferry
#

Plasma is just dangerous as hell in general, Beam Rifle especially

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The Beam moves at like, Mach 10.7

mental matrix
#

plasma gokill

desert dirge
#

What is more powerful a plasma gun or a needler?

barren ferry
#

Even MJOLNIR doesn't hold up that well against Plasma Rifle bolts

barren ferry
gilded mason
barren ferry
#

The Plasma rifle is an instant kill to anything that isn't superhumanly durable.

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Even to some things that are.

desert dirge
#

It make sence

barren ferry
#

Not to mention it causes 3rd degree burns just by a near miss

wooden minnow
#

Hi guys, how are you? I'm fine, and you?

desert dirge
barren ferry
#

I don't even want to imagine the devastation the Beam Rifle would cause to a SPARTAN, nevermind a regular Human.

wooden minnow
#

Well

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Does anyone know Fallout?

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How much do you write? @barren ferry ?

desert dirge
molten zodiac
wooden minnow
#

What is this chat for?

molten zodiac
#

I already here the people running towards you

desert dirge
wooden minnow
molten zodiac
#

You didn’t know tod Howard bought halo

wooden minnow
#

Strange but yes

barren ferry
wooden minnow
#

(´ω`)

versed helm
#

Does each nation-state on Earth still have their own military?

normal shard
#

Not sure, but don't think so.

fair hazel
#

Mjolnir can take some plasma bolts

normal shard
#

Newer models especially, I'd assume.

main hill
#

you think Hunters would be effected by flash bangs

versed helm
#

That element is dependent on how they process visual information. I suspect that it would probably disable certain limbs on the unit.

lilac stone
feral apex
#

Grunt Rebellion!

lilac stone
sand galleon
#

honestly odst is probably my favorite

#

not spartan

main hill
#

Flashbangs would be cool for halo ngl, I wonder why they were never put in

humble yacht
#

they kind of were, in Halo 3

main hill
#

yeah as that equipment but I don't remember those being around in muliplayer a lot or even at all

humble yacht
#

they weren't

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because they would have been useless in mp

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or wildly unbalanced

normal shard
#

I mean, when the game has a bunch of sci-fi weapons and the sky is the limit, as far as the weapons they can create, I would be disappointed if they fell back on a literal flashbang.

main hill
#

I think its would be hard for a flashbang to somehow be unbalanced ngl, like you'd actually have to go out of your way to make a flash bang unbalanced

main hill
steep ether
#

flashbangs wouldn't be very helpful because its basecly a flare, which brutes already have

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plus not the best is close combat, saying it takes time to throw them, giving the ememy time to shoot you

normal shard
#

I fail to see the use as well; You could throw a flashbang, and if it hits, then that throw would've just been 10x better if it was a frag/sticky.

steep ether
#

yeah, and just a mormal frag is annoying enough(if your on the wrong side)

#

and there arent many missions were they would see good purpose

main hill
#

well with a frag an enemy could just as easily survive and kill you with a flash bang you disorientate the enemy so they can't really fight back and you can kill em

steep ether
#

you do know that flashbangs dont really inflict damage, right?

#

frags do

normal shard
#

It has the deployable shield problem; If I could throw up a bubble shield instead, what the heck do I need the plasma deployable shield for? Same concept. I can throw a nade and damage, or I can throw a nade and stun them, just to have to shoot them anyway.

main hill
#

yes, they blind and deafen you momentarily

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well with a deployable shield you can shoot through it

steep ether
#

frags and sticky do* damage*

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although the deployable sheild is really cool, its kinda op

humble yacht
#

halo players typically don't like weapons and abilities that stop them from playing

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an item that blinded or stunned you wouldn't go over well

normal shard
#

Also, just throwing this out there; It's not a tactical shooter, it's an arcade shooter. There's a reason why clan raids have to be done with specific maps and a bunch of other rules in place. They practically have to rebalance the game to make it like a tac-shooter. Flashbangs would be good imo, if this wasn't a fast-paced, arcade shooter.

humble yacht
#

that said, this is the lore channel, not gameplay channel

normal shard
#

Apologies, I will stop.

steep ether
#

true

versed helm
#

So, guys, there anything that happened in 2553? Like, after the Covenant War is over?

limpid meadow
#

In short: a lot

main hill
#

yeah that tends to happen when a massive war that caused a massive change in the course of history happens

versed helm
#

We’re the flood on the ark completely contained

stable flower
#

Hopefully

steep ether
#

no

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you can see that they weren't in halo wars 2

novel barn
#

🎵 anything can happen 🎵

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That's all I'm saying

steep ether
#

what?

novel barn
steep ether
#

with what

novel barn
#

My mum's nagging me to bring my phone down cya

limpid meadow
steep ether
#

didnt the banished release the flood by accident

limpid meadow
#

Yes, and then they defeated the Flood.

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And even if it wasn't completely destroyed, it has been contained to some degree.

steep ether
#

huh

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if the banished can contain the flood, they will be a big threat in infinite

gilded mason
#

What do you mean?

steep ether
#

its the flood. lore wise its very hard to stop

#

maybe not in gameplay, but still

gilded mason
#

Luckily, they stopped it fairly soon after it started, and they had the ample help of the Ark's own, more advanced, defences

steep ether
#

true

gilded mason
#

Which was the main deciding factor

steep ether
#

although promeatheans aren't a thing in halo 3, its weird that there are none on the ark

gilded mason
#

There are, in Hunters in the Dark, at least

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Armigers were the ones seen

steep ether
#

i mean theres sentienals but they arent very strong compared to the flood

gilded mason
#

The small types aren't in gameplay, yes.

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Though there are many types, including big and beefy ones

stable flower
#

In Halo 3, we weren't on the Ark long enough compared to other installations

steep ether
#

i get that there wouldent be any on the rings, but the ARK

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i mean, c'mon

gilded mason
#

Hm?

steep ether
#

i guess 343 can retcon them in anytime

gilded mason
#

Retcon what in?

steep ether
#

knights and stuff

unique rune
#

Installation 00 was a Builder facility rather than Warrior-Servant, so... not terribly strange that there wasn't a major Promethean presence.

steep ether
#

just not in gameplay

limpid meadow
#

Promethean constructs weren't created until the final 4 years of the Forerunner-Flood War, so they weren't wide spread

versed helm
#

Gameplay not important. Gameplay always devolves into big monke and angery controller combo. Gameplay not enduring.

Lore. Only Lore important.

steep ether
#

yup

stable flower
#

So they first saw Armigers on the Ark in 2554 but Del Rio acts surprised when they see them on Requiem?

fair hazel
#

There were no armigers seen on requiem

gilded mason
#

Did he ever see any on there?

fair hazel
#

that we know of

stable flower
#

I thought the Knights were armigers

limpid meadow
#

Armigers were first encountered in 2555, but Del Rio wasn't present and the kind encountered were more like Soldiers than Knights

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Knights are 1 type of Armiger. Soldiers are another, and there are several types.

versed helm
steep ether
#

whats the differance from armigers and promeatheans

stable flower
#

Armigers are a type of Promethean

versed helm
steep ether
#

i understand that

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but how are they different

gilded mason
stable flower
#

Oh

unique rune
#

Promethean was a particular rank of the Forerunner Warrior-Servant rate

limpid meadow
steep ether
#

that page dosent really alaborate on the question

unique rune
#

Armigers are a classification of Forerunner combat machine

limpid meadow
steep ether
limpid meadow
#

And specifically, Promethean Knights and Soldiers are types of Armigers

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Watchers are a class of Sentinel.

steep ether
#

got it

stable flower
#

It sucks making a type of soldier then only having a short time to use it before the war you're involved in is over. Poor Forerunners

steep ether
#

what about crawlers

limpid meadow
#

Crawlers seem to be their own classification at the moment.

steep ether
#

huh

unique rune
#

meant the robot promeathean things
Still applies
Knights and Soldiers were specific types of Armiger utilized by the Prometheans

steep ether
#

got it

limpid meadow
#

Knights specifically were only created at the end of the war but the Ur-Didact, too.

terse lava
#

Would say they didn't help much during the war anyway, seeing as the logic plague turned many against their creators

tender cove
#

why didnt the forerunners during the forerunner-flood war just quarantine every single infested planet, and starts dropping chunks of 100% alcohol to the flood, make some alcohol granades and alcohol powered weapon hahahahha

kind knoll
#

The problem with that is the flood had space ships and could easily evade interplanetary lockdown, a more effective plan would be for the forerunners to arm their space ships with alcohol squirt guns

tender cove
# kind knoll The problem with that is the flood had space ships and could easily evade interp...

you're correct, they should do uh something like space sentinels, like the ones protect the rings, so they can shoot alcoholz. if the alcohol is useless because its a ship, so then they should make space sentinels with alcohols and sun powered lazer
aint that convinient? ( Space sentinels that will patrol all over the universe everyday )

one planet like earth contains chunks and loads of chunk of alcohol, so if the forerunner already owned lots of planet, why not making 3 or 4 planets into drug farms which will become the main source to maintain the war and make the forerunner win

kind knoll
#

Well they were very dumb and decided to use the halo's instead

tender cove
#

they should've have 2000 average IQ by now

#

imma put this on halo waypoint

terse lava
#

..the heck?

stable flower
#

So the Armigers were like the Spartans of the Forerunners?

terse lava
#

No

#

They were disposable war bots that could drown the enemy in numbers before a regular Forerunner Warrior-Servant entered the field.

stable flower
#

Oh

#

Still a shame they only got to use them for a short time before the war was over.

normal shard
#

If anyone has a moment to answer; When the elites fight the brutes, in that naval battle on the ark, why were the elites able to win so easily? Are the brutes like, bad at naval engagements?

gilded mason
#

They didn't have much experience at naval combat

normal shard
#

Oh, I see.

gilded mason
#

And to make things worse, they were up against masters

normal shard
#

I didn't know they were still inexperienced at that point in the war, but that makes sense, thank you. It confused me for a long time.

#

Are the Jackals also inexperienced with naval combat? I ask because I recently learned they have their own ships too.

gilded mason
#

True, though I doubt many were able to actually command other vessels and enact grand strategy.

normal shard
#

Ah, fair. So no fleets of jackals? lol

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I don't wanna fight a fleet of jackals anyway; On legendary, there'd be nowhere to hide from the beam rifles. xD

stable flower
#

One of the Covenant's founding species versus the Covenant's newest.

#

BTW I wonder if the Covenant have any form of law enforcement

gilded mason
#

They do

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A lot of ships that human encountered were typically just used for enforcing law before the war started

normal shard
#

See, I had thought it was just marshal law, so the law enforcement would just be their ridiculously strong military.

terse lava
#

@stable flower they were actually used often during the human-forerunner wars, and later the flood war. They began limiting them thanks to the logic plague

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@gilded mason i think he means an actual proper police force

gilded mason
#

I assume they do

#

Felt like Warfleet implied it

terse lava
#

Yeah, curious though now what they would be called, least the police force on High Charity.

vivid inlet
#

Do u guys think the Prometheans' would return in Infinite? even if they do idk how 343i would add them to the story. Also I havent play Halo wars 2, were there prometheans in that game?

stable flower
#

They have to. The Created are still at large.

craggy sierra
unique rune
#

Also I havent play Halo wars 2, were there prometheans in that game?
No. The only Forerunner units present in HW2 are Sentinel varieties.

terse lava
#

They were originally apparently supposed to make an appearance as DLC, but the Flood won that

limpid meadow
#

I don't think Prometheans were ever going to be campaign DLC, just a potential new multiplayer faction.

empty dune
#

wasnt the guardian showed in halo wars 2

limpid meadow
limpid meadow
empty dune
#

I dont want prometheans in halo infinite

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those sucked to face in legendary

limpid meadow
#

I do

empty dune
#

knights teleport too much

limpid meadow
#

In Halo 4, sure

empty dune
#

u cant read em

limpid meadow
#

You can easily read them.

#

Where they're teleporting is pretty clearly broadcast and you can make a reasonable estimation of where they'll appear.

#

But again, that's Halo 4.

empty dune
#

halo 4 elites sucked to me

limpid meadow
#

In which Elites suck on Legendary, too

empty dune
#

they kept running then melee you so freakin fast

limpid meadow
#

Yeah. The problem wasn't the Prometheans, necessarily, it's that difficulty scaling since Halo Reach has just been done by making the player incredibly weak and enemy shields stupid strong

empty dune
#

halo 4 legendary wasnt as bad as halo 2

#

I was finna quit on gravemind

limpid meadow
#

I'll take H2 legendary over Halo 4 legendary

empty dune
#

that one gravemind part ruined my summer

#

I got killed right off cutscene

pulsar pivot
#

Yeah I dont play legendary will try it eventually I just go straight for heroic

nocturne owl
#

I wonder what happened to Sara Sorvad.

empty dune
#

@pulsar pivot if u go for halo 2 legendary. Gravemind is where the soul breaks

pulsar pivot
#

Oof

empty dune
#

that level is the worst

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I stand by it

#

even cortana was easier

nocturne owl
#

what level?

pulsar pivot
#

All I hear is the jackal snipers are annoying

empty dune
#

Gravemind

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library was hard for me tho

pulsar pivot
#

One shot

empty dune
#

yeah

gilded mason
pulsar pivot
unique rune
#

Jackal Snipers are tolerable once you’ve died enough to memorise their spawn positions

gilded mason
#

"The faster you can kill those brutes, the better."

pulsar pivot
#

Obviously

#

Brutes are annoying

#

They push you off the bridges and punch you too death

empty dune
#

no but they like 1 shot u'

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in gravemind

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within 5 seconds of starting ur prob dead

#

no cover

#

2 brutes

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destroy u

#

this is all the pain

pulsar pivot
#

Oh

empty dune
#

in halo 2

nocturne owl
#

wait, is it the level where chief scares a grunt?

empty dune
#

gravemind

#

...

empty dune
#

yeah

#

and then u die 2 seconds later

#

I had to watch yt tutorials

#

I was so lost

pulsar pivot
#

Haha these bru.... oh

#

Raging brutes are the worst

nocturne owl
#

To be honest, I think fighting the flood was more annoying

pulsar pivot
#

They were obviously much more tanky than elites

gilded mason
#

At least with Flood you can one-shot them fairly easily

#

In H2, at least

nocturne owl
#

especially with the flood forms with the bloated appearances

empty dune
#

yeah

#

get a shot gun and ur fine

pulsar pivot
#

Hit em in the deformed head

#

Its somewhere around there

empty dune
#

flood was annoying with library and cortana. but gravemind is just so much worse

pulsar pivot
#

Cortana was fun

empty dune
#

yeah

pulsar pivot
#

Library was boring for me

empty dune
#

for legendary just hug walls

#

library is only hard cause u get lost

#

so easily

#

and rocket launcher flood

#

oh god

#

bro

pulsar pivot
#

Follow the big blue metal thing

empty dune
#

sniper jackels and rocket launcher flood, and the little bug flood that shoot things

pulsar pivot
empty dune
#

nightmares

nocturne owl
#

Oh yes, the flood with the rocket launcher was so frustrating.

empty dune
#

whats the little bug flood

#

that transforms

#

its so annoying

pulsar pivot
#

THOSE ARE NOT LITTLE

#

But oh god

unique rune
#

ranged Pure Form

pulsar pivot
#

gogodI hate them

empty dune
#

yes

#

they snipe u

#

so much

unique rune
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forget Jackal Snipers, ranged Pure Forms were the real worst

empty dune
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yeah

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in cortana even on normal they make me rage

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and thats sad

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they just suck

nocturne owl
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The level where you have to save cortana wasn't bad to me, because at least you got a flame thrower to torch the flood up.

empty dune
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I FORGOT ABOUT THE FLAME THROWER

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and didnt pick it up

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so I went through without it

pulsar pivot
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There was a tower in the flood version of voi and there were just like 5 of them me being on heroic if I got out of cover I would get pinned down

empty dune
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trusty shotgun

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the most fun levels for me in the entire franchise

pulsar pivot
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The 7 years of halo 3

empty dune
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is the streets of new mombasa halo odst, and truth and reconciliation

pulsar pivot
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Never noticed

empty dune
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yeah

unique rune
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I need to revisit H2 Legendary sometime because I genuinely don’t remember it being as painful an experience as most people make it out to be

empty dune
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it is

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pain.

pulsar pivot
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I know nobody likes 4 , well not everybody but the ending level I thought was fun

empty dune
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I may have had more fun with halo odst than halo 2

pulsar pivot
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The first time you encountered a scarab I loved that

empty dune
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scarabs suck

pulsar pivot
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In 3 not 2

nocturne owl
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I didn't mind Halo 4

pulsar pivot
empty dune
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I liked the first level of halo 4

pulsar pivot
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Ah yes that was good

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4 was pretty good

unique rune
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4 is still one of my favorite campaigns.

Though I’m sure I’m a bit biased since it was the first Halo game I’d played

empty dune
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Im sad the death barriers are everywhere

pulsar pivot
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5 was umm passable

empty dune
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same

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4 was the first

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but I played the others

nocturne owl
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What i didn't like was running out of ammo when fighting forerunner constructs.

empty dune
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and it dont cut it anymore

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yeah

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the ammo

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is gone instanly

pulsar pivot
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Reach is my favorite campaign

empty dune
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for me

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its halo ce or 3

unique rune
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I’d still much rather replay 4’s campaign than either 3’s or Reach’s.

pulsar pivot
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Because it's all in one game and not 3

empty dune
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than a tight 2 with odst

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I would like reach if it followed lore

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more

nocturne owl
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Five felt more of a Locke-centred game.

empty dune
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is they introduced locke in halo 4, halo 5 wouldve been better

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they forced a character

pulsar pivot
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Reach gave more lore as far as I'm concerned

empty dune
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into the game

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no

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not the actual lore

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if it was the real lore

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it would be even better

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but reah was fun

pulsar pivot
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Ok not actual lore but in general

empty dune
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I liked the flying part

pulsar pivot
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Zoom

empty dune
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in the city of alexandria

pulsar pivot
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Oh yeah

empty dune
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I just bought a few more halo books

pulsar pivot
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When I was young playing 3 I never noticed the flamethrower near the pelican and just noticed that it was there a week ago

empty dune
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I knew it was on the level

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just forget about it everytime

pulsar pivot
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I never knew

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Arbiter always popped up with one and I was yooo

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Where did you get that

nocturne owl
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I'm currently replaying reach cause it's been a while. Unlike last time, i intend to finish the full campaign. Last time was different since I was playing it at a mate's house. I kinda know the ending of Halo Reach because some guy at school thought it would be funny to give me spoilers.

pulsar pivot
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Ha loo

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Lol

empty dune
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what if he didnt die

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u never see him die

pulsar pivot
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I put the letter f

empty dune
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technically

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the screen cuts out

pulsar pivot
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Hes dead

empty dune
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lol

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I like the theorys tho

pulsar pivot
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I swear to god

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This bot

empty dune
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I hated how everybody died

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It hurt

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like

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I liked emile

pulsar pivot
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That was sad

empty dune
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he was sick

pulsar pivot
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I loved emile

unique rune
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It cuts to black and the implication is that he’s dead.

If he survived he probably wouldn’t be alive much longer anyway considering everything going on.

empty dune
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of course Jun aliv

nocturne owl
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I liked horhay.

pulsar pivot
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Jun lives

empty dune
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Yeah

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he started a new spartan program

unique rune
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I liked 052. The rest of Noble made me feel nothing.

empty dune
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I wanna see the old noble 6

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tbh

pulsar pivot
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F in chat for the second spartan to get the classification "Hyper-Deadly"

nocturne owl
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which reminds me, how did Horhay end up with Noble Team?

empty dune
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Idc what anybody says to me Johnson is the best written character in halo 2

pulsar pivot
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Yes

unique rune
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Still wish Bungie never wrote up that nonsense about “hyper lethal vector”. Friggin edgy fanfic OC donut steel level garbage.

gilded mason
empty dune
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Hooya!

pulsar pivot
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"I know what the ladies like"

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Either way

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Still

nocturne owl
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Well, don't we all? Cause Johnson's the guy who can tease Master Chief and get away with it. Why do you have to jump?

pulsar pivot
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F in chat

unique rune
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Johnson’s dialogue in 2 is fun but the Arbiter is the real star of the campaign.

empty dune
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I didnt like miranda keys

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she wasnt a character for me

pulsar pivot
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"One day your gonna land on something as stubborn as you"

empty dune
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Arbiter is halo 2s campain

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he is awseom

pulsar pivot
empty dune
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but he got downgraded to a side kick in halo 3 😦

pulsar pivot
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No

empty dune
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he hit his head falling down

nocturne owl
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I also liked Chips Dubbo. The Australian marine who miraculously survived every single halo game

pulsar pivot
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He just now helps him

empty dune
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LOL

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CHIPS

pulsar pivot
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Chips and fish

empty dune
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He is the marine

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he cant die

pulsar pivot
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Like he legit cant die

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No matter how much you shoot him

nocturne owl
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Well, he's survived a lot of things worse what he experiences in the games. For him its just another day.

pulsar pivot
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Interesting

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Now spartan palmer

nocturne owl
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I'm talking, from venomous spiders to snakes to even dropbears.

pulsar pivot
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He from Australia

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Makes sense

empty dune
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spartan palmer is discount master chief

pulsar pivot
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Spartan palmer didnt like her

nocturne owl
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As a fellow aussie, i'm proud of chips.

pulsar pivot
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Commander lasky was good

empty dune
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yeah

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good character

pulsar pivot
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Real good

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I see him as the fatherly figure for master cheif

normal shard
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Why...?

pulsar pivot
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You ever play 4

normal shard
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Yeah, but nothing in that game would make that statement make sense.

empty dune
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well lore wise

nocturne owl
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who remembers that part where Johnson's bagging out private jenkins for not firing his weapon? I would quote it, but unfortunately the bot bans it because of a word that is similar to darn.

empty dune
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ah

pulsar pivot
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Did you ever beat 4

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This bot is making me mad

normal shard
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Yes.

pulsar pivot
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When he gives them a pelican to help them

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Ect.

normal shard
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Did -you- watch the lead-up movie "Forward Unto Dawn" ? Also, idk what cutscene you were watching, but he helps him once, fights by his side, and casually talks to Chief at the end. He didn't try to cheer him up once. If anything, he's more like Johnson than a father figure.

pulsar pivot
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Look how bout not a fatherly figure but a good and helping friend

nocturne owl
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i don't see why people hate on Spartan Palmer. I'm not saying that I like Palmer, but i'm just curious.

pulsar pivot
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Idk

normal shard
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I actually do like Palmer tbh.

pulsar pivot
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I just dknt get the same vibes as I do from Johnson or keyes

normal shard
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Not saying she's better than other characters, but on her own, she's no slouch.

pulsar pivot
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Fair point

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Compared to others

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Mm

gilded mason
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Palmer's nice in Halo 5. I just don't like her all too much in previous media.

main hill
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Do ya’ll think the Wraith from Halo is a lot more armored and durable then depicted in game?

gilded mason
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Definitely more durable, yeah

pulsar pivot
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I say its about as durable as it is in game

empty dune
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I want flood in halo infinite

pulsar pivot
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Yeah me too

normal shard
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If you compare her to others, you'll always find that she comes up short. Because most of the other fanfavorites have a ton of background lore and extended universe stuff that make their character's well-rounded.

pulsar pivot
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Ok I see your opinion

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Now I'm gonna stick with mine

nocturne owl
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Whenever I see Palmer, all I see is a character from the Clone Wars.

pulsar pivot
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Hmm

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Never thought of that

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OOOOH

nocturne owl
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Because her voice actor also voices a character in the clone wars show. So i keep likening Palmer to said clone wars character.

pulsar pivot
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I can totally see that now

normal shard
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I believe the voice actress is also the voice of Ashe from overwatch.

pulsar pivot
#

In yall s opinion

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How was the didact

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I thought he was pretty fun

empty dune
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no

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the boss fight was a button

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but his lore character is amazing

nocturne owl
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He was, uh, I don't know how to describe my thoughts.

pulsar pivot
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I'm sorry what was truths fight

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Exactly

empty dune
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well it was multiple buttons

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and u jumped off

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and no

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U didnt fight truth

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arbiter ended truth

pulsar pivot
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Arbiter stabbed him

nocturne owl
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But i'm surprised that the logic plague works on organic beings.

pulsar pivot
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The only legit boss fight

normal shard
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I would've liked the didact if he was just a character from the Forerunner's story, hundreds of thousands of years ago, but since they brought him to modern day, I feel like it didn't fit.

pulsar pivot
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Was tartarus

empty dune
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mercy i THINK, and guilty spark

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mini boss